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December 24, 2017, 06:28:30 PM
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BlueBeagle


We struggle finding someone who can get us to 7th.

Stop living in the real world please.


December 24, 2017, 06:36:04 PM
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KoemansNumberTens


Stop living in the real world please.

It's amazing isn't it. Like we are just a different manager off having all that pace movement and ability in attacking positions. Can't wait til he comes and Lennon becomes Salah

December 24, 2017, 07:04:52 PM
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Allardyce should be aiming for an Atlético style ultimately.

We’ve shown we can score decent goals so it’s a question of getting that out more often.

Whatever style though you need players who keep the ball in the final third; which we still lack in numbers.
Atletico is probably the best fit given Allardyce's strengths.

Tottenham, Chelsea, Mourinho's teams are all based on solid defences too though. Plenty of blueprints we can follow.
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December 24, 2017, 08:28:31 PM
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We made the mistake of believing Moyes was good enough to take us beyond UEFA Cup football. We should say thanks to Allardyce and move on in 18 months.


Martinez and Koeman didnt get us any further despite the former inheriting a great basis left by Moyes and the latter having loads more money to spend...

It's not easy to make a team able to compete at the very top. Only Spurs have done so coming from a similar starting point and they are still inconsistent and still haven't won anything.

We have to aim there of course but there is NO guarantee of us ever making it, short of spending £100m's like City did.  And Moshiri hasnt got that sort of money.

A manager like Pocchetino would be great, but how rare are they ...
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December 24, 2017, 08:34:24 PM
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Martinez and Koeman didnt get us any further despite the former inheriting a great basis left by Moyes and the latter having loads more money to spend...

It's not easy to make a team able to compete at the very top. Only Spurs have done so coming from a similar starting point and they are still inconsistent and still haven't won anything.

We have to aim there of course but there is NO guarantee of us ever making it, short of spending £100m's like City did.  And Moshiri hasnt got that sort of money.

A manager like Pocchetino would be great, but how rare are they ...

And they had a 150m plus striker come through their youth system

December 24, 2017, 08:53:32 PM
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Mayor Farnum


Spurs have outspent us considerably in the Premier League era, they have just recouped much of it because they can't hold on to their better players, despite the odd season in the Champions League. That is a dilemma facing clubs that can't buy their way to the top in one fell swoop. Their decent players won't wait around for five years while you build.
We spent more on Sig than Liverpool did on Sallah but if we had have gone after Sallah he wouldn't have given us a second look.


December 24, 2017, 09:07:22 PM
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I am with Si here. Unless Allardyce looks like he can challenge the top 4 by end of his 18 months he should not be given a contract extension
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December 24, 2017, 09:10:40 PM
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A manager like Pocchetino would be great, but how rare are they ...

For all the circle jerking over Pocchetino, he's achieved fuck all really.

Finished 4th twice, the first of which was when Chelsea and United had an absolute nightmare.

All the while having one of the most in-form forwards in the world at his disposal.
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December 24, 2017, 09:16:17 PM
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I am with Si here. Unless Allardyce looks like he can challenge the top 4 by end of his 18 months he should not be given a contract extension

And appoint which miracle worker? They all have better players than us and more money.

December 24, 2017, 09:21:40 PM
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And appoint which miracle worker?

This is where people then start giving it the "Well it's the clubs job to find the right man" whilst offering absolutely no suggestions themselves.

December 24, 2017, 09:35:23 PM
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I am with Si here. Unless Allardyce looks like he can challenge the top 4 by end of his 18 months he should not be given a contract extension

Irrespective of what he is given to spend?

December 24, 2017, 09:39:16 PM
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For all the circle jerking over Pocchetino, he's achieved fuck all really.

Finished 4th twice, the first of which was when Chelsea and United had an absolute nightmare.

All the while having one of the most in-form forwards in the world at his disposal.

What a load of inaccurate nonsense.

Finished 5th, 3rd and 2nd. They got 86 points last season. That's incredible.

He was the one who put Kane in the team. Kane had done nothing before that. 2 goals on loan at Leicester in 13 appearances, the season before Pochettino arrived.

In Pochettino's first three seasons they had net spends of -£1.2m and -£7.8m and +£27m. This is while their competitors are spending hundreds of millions each season.

He's made the careers of about 7 or 8 players who were nothing before he arrived.

Do a bit of research before you talk such unadulterated nonsense next time.
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December 24, 2017, 09:40:46 PM
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What a load of inaccurate nonsense.

Finished 5th, 3rd and 2nd. They got 86 points last season. That's incredible.

He was the one who put Kane in the team. Kane had done nothing before that. 2 goals on loan at Leicester in 13 appearances, the season before Pochettino arrived.

In Pochettino's first three seasons they had net spends of -£1.2m and -£7.8m and +£27m. This is while their competitors are spending hundreds of millions each season.

He's made the careers of about 7 or 8 players who were nothing before he arrived.

Do a bit of research before you talk such unadulterated nonsense next time.

So yeah, he's won nothing, finished in the top 4 twice (one of which where Chelsea and United were dreadful).

86 points... What silverware did they get for that?

As you were.
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December 24, 2017, 09:53:48 PM
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We have just had useless idiots the last or biggest part of five years ....Sam's had a couple of weeks so far ..   we all agree our team is disjointed and shite after the centre circle (attack wise)...so give the guy a window at least a few months ... and see what he does before judging him on his previous employment were he was at best putting out fires .

December 24, 2017, 09:54:52 PM
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So yeah, he's won nothing, finished in the top 4 twice (one of which where Chelsea and United were dreadful).

86 points... What silverware did they get for that?

As you were.

If a manager had achieved even half of that with us having spent about £15m over 3 seasons (while City spent £298m, and Utd spent £234m in the same period), he would be worshiped like a deity.

Stop talking soft, you're making yourself look stupid.
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