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Author Topic: The big man, the boss; Big Sam  (Read 126675 times)

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February 10, 2018, 11:57:59 PM
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KoemansNumberTens


The performances haven't really improved we've just played worse sides.
His media talk is awful
The point a lot are making is that he seems to think he is doing us a favour when I'm reality, near enough anyone could have kept this squad up

Your gonna counter me with everyone's shite and the clubs shite but the reality is, the Premier league is actually shite, and there's plenty more shite than us than actually better than us

The league is shite I totally agree. We were in a complete mess when he took over. I think performances have improved all be it not consistently week to week

Has he suggested he's doing us a favour? I havent seen that though I've distanced myself to most of everton stuff the last couple of weeks

I'm not suggesting he's been brilliant. He's done okay. There's been some improvement. I'm not suggesting people should be delighted. Just maybe the screams of get out of our club and the insults are a bit misguided

Do we really want to sack him if say he averages 1.5pts a game and take another punt with silva?? I've no problem with replacing anyone if we are confident we can do better. I just think if he goes it will be more down to the fans than the results

He could easily get 7th and he'd get absolutely no credit from most


February 11, 2018, 12:00:23 AM
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Jimmywhack

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The league is shite I totally agree. We were in a complete mess when he took over. I think performances have improved all be it not consistently week to week

Has he suggested he's doing us a favour? I havent seen that though I've distanced myself to most of everton stuff the last couple of weeks

I'm not suggesting he's been brilliant. He's done okay. There's been some improvement. I'm not suggesting people should be delighted. Just maybe the screams of get out of our club and the insults are a bit misguided

Do we really want to sack him if say he averages 1.5pts a game and take another punt with silva?? I've no problem with replacing anyone if we are confident we can do better. I just think if he goes it will be more down to the fans than the results

He could easily get 7th and he'd get absolutely no credit from most
I don't like the press talks, how he belittles players, how he takes all the credit when we win, no blame if we lose

Silva? Maybe maybe not, I just want a forward thinking younger manager tbh

Oh and a DoF who has a fucking clue
Simply simply lovely

February 11, 2018, 12:02:49 AM
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It’s not wrong to not want an arrogant dinosaur of a bloke who plays horrible football and who has been caught out as being corrupt more than once to be manager of your football club.


February 11, 2018, 12:09:49 AM
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KoemansNumberTens


It’s not wrong to not want an arrogant dinosaur of a bloke who plays horrible football and who has been caught out as being corrupt more than once to be manager of your football club.

Give me these 2 incidents of corruption he's been found guilty of.

Are these incidents the issue? Would you have a problem if it was someone you deemed a better manager

February 11, 2018, 12:24:24 AM
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People have absolutely refused to give him a chance. Even at the beginning when we were getting good results people were openingly admitting they were waiting for the results to turn so they could lay into him. Them were the people claiming to be giving him a chance too
We haven't been great under him but then we haven't been great for a long while. People making out he's damaged us while you point out we are averaging more under him. Others wanting to give unsworth the credit

It's ridiculous. By all means people can refuse to be open to him but claiming they are/were open while everything else they state show they weren't/aren't is just daft

He's done an okay job
It all comes down to whether you thought we were in genuine trouble or not. I thought we were so was happy with the appointment of a ‘fire-fighter’. In an ideal world we’d have had someone progressive to come in to lay the foundation to hit the ground running next season.

February 11, 2018, 01:20:16 AM
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Martinez knew what Everton wanted? He was a lunatic who wouldn't get his teams to do the very basics of defending and physical fitness

So you were filling to give him a chance right up to a couple of poor results. I'm not sure that's really giving someone a chance. What you really mean is you were willing to bide your time. Nowt wrong with that but you need to own it. Don't make out that you've been fair.
Only treating him like he treats our players in reality... why does he deserve more of a chance than any of them do ?..I've said all along would love to be proved wrong but I'm not gonna hold my breath....Palace ,west ham ,Sunderland fans all love him too no?....wonder why that is, the guy is the worst anti football cancer we've had in our club since Walter by miles .
Oh and those poor results you spoke of was the worst shithouse tactics and team selection our club has seen in decades.

But again if your happy with the shite under his reign good luck to you .👍.
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February 11, 2018, 01:39:10 AM
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It all comes down to whether you thought we were in genuine trouble or not. I thought we were so was happy with the appointment of a ‘fire-fighter’. In an ideal world we’d have had someone progressive to come in to lay the foundation to hit the ground running next season.
Really split on this one tbh. On one hand he has had some shocker like the arsenal game where we were as bad as i can ever remember....then I look at the table and think how much safer we look. I know people say any monkey could have kept us up but that isn't true we were absolutely dreadful and arguably the worst team in the league at the time. I'm literally split.

February 11, 2018, 01:40:17 AM
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Not suggesting we should celebrate. It's been an okay start. An improvement. It should be seen as a small positive and buy him a little goodwill and a little more time. Instead we have people shouting "get out of our club" giving credit to unsworth (which is ridiculous) blaming him for pretty much everything. I mean look at the lookman situation. We all thought it was an odd move. He probably won't get the minutes he needs. Yet allardyce says it and he hates young players and he hates flair players. We've spent all season slagging the players off. Allardyce says it after Arsenal and he's a monster. Got a reaction today and won. Maybe what he said worked the gravy eating beast



Koeman this year:

Vs non top 6: 7 points from 4 games - 1.8 p/g

Vs top 6: 1 point from 5 games.

Unsy:

Vs non top 6: 7 points from 5 games - 1.4 p/g

Vs top 6: n/a

Allardyce:

Vs non top 6: 17 points from 8 games 2.1 p/g

Vs top 6:

2 points from 5 games.

February 11, 2018, 01:41:08 AM
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All of them have shown propensity to win home games vs the lower sides.

February 11, 2018, 01:45:33 AM
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Should the manager really be given credit for beating crystal palace at home?

We've also had some really poor performances against some really poor team as well.

He's already shown he's not the manager to take us forward so it's all about trying to get 7th (which should be the target) and getting the right man in the summer.

February 11, 2018, 01:48:11 AM
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that dickhead said 'i've never heard anything like that before' referring to the boo's Schneiderlin got before he came, and while he was on.. guess dickhead didnt see the first half v Leicester, or the Arsenal match.. or the boo's big sam got when he subbed Cenk off in his home debut, when we where behind!!


ugh, Sam :(
Unsworth has a 100% League record at home
Norwich 3-0 15th May 2016
Watford 3-2 5th Nov 2017
West Ham 4-0 29th Nov 2017
To Be Continued.....

February 11, 2018, 01:48:46 AM
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People have absolutely refused to give him a chance. Even at the beginning when we were getting good results people were openingly admitting they were waiting for the results to turn so they could lay into him. Them were the people claiming to be giving him a chance too
We haven't been great under him but then we haven't been great for a long while. People making out he's damaged us while you point out we are averaging more under him. Others wanting to give unsworth the credit

It's ridiculous. By all means people can refuse to be open to him but claiming they are/were open while everything else they state show they weren't/aren't is just daft

He's done an okay job
£6m for Ok?
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February 11, 2018, 01:51:19 AM
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Really split on this one tbh. On one hand he has had some shocker like the arsenal game where we were as bad as i can ever remember....then I look at the table and think how much safer we look. I know people say any monkey could have kept us up but that isn't true we were absolutely dreadful and arguably the worst team in the league at the time. I'm literally split.



Sounds like you need to pull yourself together. ;)
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February 11, 2018, 01:56:26 AM
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that dickhead said 'i've never heard anything like that before' referring to the boo's Schneiderlin got before he came, and while he was on.. guess dickhead didnt see the first half v Leicester, or the Arsenal match.. or the boo's big sam got when he subbed Cenk off in his home debut, when we where behind!!


ugh, Sam :(

That’s booing the team or the sub.

Can’t remember instances of booing the individual coming on.

February 11, 2018, 02:06:08 AM
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If anyone actually thinks allerdyce is doing an ok job, and for that deserves our support. They can fuck off.
We have had some real shit managing our club , people who should never have got the opportunity. Sam is one of those.
 Don't believe me? Scheiderlin...says it all, not put a fucking shift in at all this season. Yet gets picked . The arsenal game summed Sam up for me, winning team split, and the defence ? Fuck...how many times do we have to see a back 3 that does not work, before the message gets through. We don't have the players . We have a poor right back at left back. Despite needing a left back for how long? For one manager to fail to address this is bad. For two it's pathetic.
 Another reason to distrust Sam.
He gets abuse because he comes across as arrogant. He does not get the club,  the fans or the team.
And some of the comments he comes out with..fuck me..is  it any wonder he gets abuse?
MORE BORING?

Ffs, he is Making himself indefensible.
He has to go, and sooner the better. Moshiri has to get it right, new.manager and dof. No excuses, no room for error.
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