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January 14, 2018, 04:01:58 AM
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I actually think this headline misses the worse part for me, which is that he's already resorted to blaming the players just like he's always done in the past.  Obviously the players aren't blameless, but here's a manager who's infamous for taking the credit himself after a good result and throwing his players under the bus after a bad one.  Looks like we're seeing it already.

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January 14, 2018, 04:14:00 AM
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This must do wonders for team morale and spirit.

Yep.  It's basically a cunt's trick.

January 14, 2018, 04:20:11 AM
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Wish we could go back to the days when we were playing good stuff and winning all the time.  Y'know - wasn't long ago was it?  Oh wait a minute let's blame someone who's been here a month. 

I hope he stays.
I hope he bores the fuck out of everyone.
I hope you lads absolutely hate it.

We've gone backwards in many ways, that's why people are fucked off.  He's also got a proven record of not being that good, again which is why many of us didn't want him.

As for the last 3 sentences, you've got very strange priorities when it comes to Everton.


January 14, 2018, 04:52:41 AM
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Heís not wrong is he though. We clearly did throw in the towel the minute that second goal went in.

It was the first time we played like that, with a total lack of effort or belief, since he arrived.

It's not whether he's right or wrong that's the issue though.  He's ultimately responsible, and calling out the players publicly like that rarely ends well and is rarely the sign of someone who's a good leader.

And also as right as he was about the players, you can kind of understand it in as much as it was certainly the exact same reaction I had when we went 2-0 down - at that point it was clear there was little point in competing any more.  Of course professional footballers shouldn't react that way, but sometimes they do and I can kind of understand the hopelessness they probably felt at that point.

January 14, 2018, 04:59:58 AM
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WANT and NEED for the love of god stop it with this crap we were in NEED and still are Sam is getting told we need to play a better style of football (attacking ) now you can think its Sam that cant get them attacking players in are team playing well all you want but you only blowing the smoke up your own ass

We were in NEED, we just didn't NEED Sam Allardyce.  Why is it so hard for people to separate those points?

January 14, 2018, 05:03:15 AM
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Well some managers blame players and others donít. I dont think itís proven one way or another what is more effective. If it was as black and white as you say then no decent manager would ever blame the players, ever. Also itís not like heís singled anyone out which (in my opinion) is worse for that player.

Regarding throwing in the towel at 2-0, fuck that. Thereís always a point in competing. Yeah I wouldíve put our chance of getting anything out that game at about 3% at that point, but it only takes one goal to make a game of it. It wasnít acceptable.



For me it's the fact that this is one of the things I always disliked him for, and now I see it happening at Everton I really don't like it.  It's ok to criticise the players to a degree but if you look at the way he's done it over his career then he clearly used it as an excuse to often.  It's the fact he will credit himself when things go well which grates.

I don't disagree regarding the chucking in the towel bit, of course it's wrong for the players to do that.  I just want that situation managed well and in a positive manner, and I don't trust him to do that.