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February 16, 2018, 02:16:59 PM
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Finish 7th, get into Europe.
Have a new DoF by the start of the transfer window.

Don't like the idea of getting a new manager and DoF in the same window - and i think Walsh has hurt the club more than Allardyce is financially.
There's no reason to doubt he can't get us top 7 next year as well.

But at that point it'd be clear it's as high as he can take us, we'd have had 3 years of Europe on the bounce (and i'd expect him to get us out of the group stages as well), we'll be able to look a bit higher than flavour of th emonth managers by then.


February 16, 2018, 05:12:46 PM
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First red line is Koeman going
Second red line is between Unsworth's West Ham & Allardyce's first match.

Koeman was relegation form/zone, Unsworth got us to within a win of top half, Allardyce did that and has maintained 9th basically (despite that 6 game streak without a win)

February 16, 2018, 07:01:09 PM
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Look, after that Southampton dicking myself and many others genuinely thought this season could turn into a relegation scrap.
It wasn't an over reation and it wasn't being pessimistic. It was a realistic and genuine fear.
The side looked like it was shot. Utterly devoid of an attacking idea and far too similar to the teams some of us had to sit through in the 90s.

It was after that game that the board seemed to crystalise on Allardyce and swallow their pride.
they announced him just before the West Ham game. But he had already met the players before the announcement.

But that is besides the point @AllyBlue14 is making. His point wasn't about if Allardyce is any good. It wasn't even whether we were truly in danger of going down.
It was simply that, at the time the board made their decision, there was a general perception that we had a decent chance of finding ourselves in a bid to avoid a relegation battle.


February 20, 2018, 03:26:31 PM
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The bit in bold was when asked if he would bring the Everton squad back to Dubai next season.

This appointment isn't viewed as a stop-gap lads.


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Sam Allardyce says he is hoping to return to Dubai with his Everton squad next season.

The Blues spent last week in the Gulf on a warm weather training trip, and Allardyce has been a regular visitor to Dubai throughout his managerial career.

With a two-week gap between the win over Crystal Palace on February 10 and this Saturday's trip Watford, Everton were afforded an ideal chance to recharge their batteries with some warm weather training.

Allardyce has been thoroughly impressed with how his players have adapted to their temporary surroundings and revealed he would have no hesitation returning.

"It's been absolutely outstanding, the way the hotel has looked after us," he said.

"The training facilities are fantastic, the players have really enjoyed the training.

"In fact, we've had to make them stop training they have been enjoying it so much!

"The benefits are too great for us not to return.

"We are sorry we're out the FA Cup. Of course we would have loved to have stayed in it, and it was a spirited performance against Liverpool.

"We got knocked out with the late header from [Virgil] van Dijk, so we take this opportunity to take the break.

"I come back every year and there's no doubt about [returning]."

Allardyce also reiterated his desire to see Everton's poor away form improve when they return to Premier League action at Vicarage Road this weekend.

"We need to improve our away form, it's been a bit on the poor side, so we need to increase that," he told Big Rossi Radio in Dubai.

"It's been the opposite to the home form and like every other team outside of the top six, it's always a struggle to get that consistency home and away.

"We've been no better or worse than anyone else.

"We're all new, we haven't been together long and we can all get to know each other a bit [in Dubai], and hopefully, as we get to know each other a bit more, it will help on the pitch."

February 20, 2018, 03:41:03 PM
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Hardly conclusive.

Nothing short of a contract extension would be conclusive enough for some people.
Even that wouldn't be seen as reason to believe he will be here next season.

He has spoke about planning for the future
Spoke about planning for the summer window
Now spoke about winter training camps away next year

He is, 100%, mentally in the space that he will be here at the start of next season.