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February 20, 2018, 06:50:03 PM
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gizzblue


So we all know how the season has gone, good money after bad but is it wasted ....or are we wasting the talent by keeping it on the bench .

Id love to see these lads given time our season is over and we're safe really ...I can't have it that we've just wasted all this money ,when we've never fucking had any before .
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February 20, 2018, 06:59:14 PM
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Mayor Farnum


Most are on long term contracts so most of our summer signings have enough time to turn things around. However, it looks like we've  been out-negotiated when it's come to the fees we've paid.

February 20, 2018, 07:01:25 PM
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They simply have to play between now and the end of the season to see if we need to get rid or if they have a future
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February 20, 2018, 07:40:24 PM
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One of the big criticisms on here has been too much change. The argument would seem to be that Sam has been here long enough to have done that and failed?
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February 20, 2018, 09:22:16 PM
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kramer0


Both.

It's what happens when you buy good-but-expensive players without thinking about how they fit on the pitch together.

February 20, 2018, 09:22:18 PM
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AllyBlue14


We don't know what exactly goes on in training, but you pick the players who deserve to be picked.

If there's a winning team or someone has done particularly well in training then they go in. Money isn't an issue for us now apparently, so you can't start picking players based on their price tags. Not least, because that would mean starting Schneiderlin over Davies, for example, which I don't think is a scenario any of us would want.


February 20, 2018, 10:02:09 PM
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Waltzer


I think our biggest issue was where we were coming from and the expectations on the players, we were hoping/reliant on all of these players coming in and transforming us into to p4/6 contenders which wasnt that realistic. I was watching the City vs Wigan game last night and wondering what would happen if we had Bernardo Silva and they had Klasseen, as I think both have been pretty uninspiring signings to date. However, City have an abundance of talent and can supplement the inclusion of Silva in their team and not really notice if he isnt up to par, whereas we dont have that luxury with Klasseen so he just gets left out on a limb.

February 20, 2018, 10:59:58 PM
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Absolutely both. Overpaid, didn't do a good job in terms of building a team, didn't give some of them a decent chance

Bit of everything. Biggest issue is we haven't defined the roles of owner, manager DOF etc etc seems to have been a bit of a free for all and it's a fuck up.

We've got people in power who were too weak and koeman who seemingly didn't give a fuck for the actual worth of the players he wanted

February 21, 2018, 04:40:11 AM
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toffee_scot


Both. Sigurdsson at 45m and Keane at 30m still feels very steep.

February 21, 2018, 08:14:18 PM
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hannu


Both. Sigurdsson at 45m and Keane at 30m still feels very steep.

no they dont

February 21, 2018, 08:16:09 PM
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Lxxx


no they dont

They do. You can't really make an argument that this was 75m well spent.

February 21, 2018, 08:24:25 PM
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gizzblue


They do. You can't really make an argument that this was 75m well spent.
Think Sig has actually worked out and will only improve ..so in today's market he was a little expensive but worth it .....but yes totally agree on the Keane figure 30m was very steep ...and don't ever see the fee warranted .
But we probably won't lose money on him either because he is young will improve and their are lots of clubs who will blow there wad on him .
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February 22, 2018, 12:43:03 AM
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Both.

It's what happens when you buy good-but-expensive players without thinking about how they fit on the pitch together.

It's all this! ^^^

Good players, but no one at Everton knew how to build a squad. 11 players that all play in 11 different positions that all play a certain style. People who make good money and are basically in charge of the team on the field had no fucking clue how to do this...

February 22, 2018, 12:52:56 AM
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KoemansNumberTens


Sigurdsson is starting to look an okay buy. Partly because his form has improved and partly because the market has increased again since we signed him

Keane at 30m looks a horrible signing and I'm surprised at anyone arguing against that. He's been rubbish. 30m in the last year of his contract too. Crazy times

February 22, 2018, 02:39:45 AM
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Sigurdsson is looking better of late but not 45m worth and Keane is woeful at best, we have spent totally shite really of late when you think how good and cheap the likes of arteta and Cahill were even by the prices back then