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February 23, 2018, 08:32:47 PM
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I don't like the man at all, but I don't have a massive issue with anything he's said there. I know it's fashionable to slaughter Newsbot, and that's not my intention, but I'm not sure the headline of the article particularly reflects the content.
Jeff: That's not the way to win.
Kathie: Is there a way to win?
Jeff: There's a way to lose more slowly.


February 25, 2018, 04:21:48 PM
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Bluedylan


To quote the film, Vanilla Sky, 'every passing minute is another chance to turn it all around'.

And I agree with that. There's no such thing as being doomed, in my view. Essentially you just need to start making better decisions from now, and that applies equally to a person's life or running a club.

We're not resigned to our fate. We just need to start making better decisions and this season can be viewed as a crazy aberration, and nothing more. Lots of clubs have had awful seasons and terrible managerial appointments and then quickly reversed it and left it behind them.

We need to view it like that, quite dispassionately.
Jeff: That's not the way to win.
Kathie: Is there a way to win?
Jeff: There's a way to lose more slowly.

February 25, 2018, 05:02:31 PM
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I don't agree with a lot of what you say, to be honest, but this sums it up exactly.

We are definitely in a better position (table-wise) than when Allardyce arrived and I think the board will look at that first and foremost. But the margin between us and the bottom is getting smaller, while we seem to be getting further away from the top 6. If Allardyce doesn't work out - and it increasingly appears he isn't going to - the board needs to make sure they take the time to identify the best and most realistic target to take us forward in the long-term.

I appreciate the olive branch but I suspect we're still in disagreement, broadly speaking. I don't think the plan was ever to keep Allardyce beyond this season. I don't have an overwhelming body of evidence to support that. It's more intuition.

I think Moshiri is and was holding his nose, while appointing Allardyce, viewing it as a necessary evil in the short term. If that is the case, I disagree with him but I can understand it.

Jeff: That's not the way to win.
Kathie: Is there a way to win?
Jeff: There's a way to lose more slowly.


February 25, 2018, 08:57:21 PM
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Bluedylan


Fuck me what would you write if we were in the bottom three ? I was close to ending it all reading this.

Not sure you've understood it, in that case.
Jeff: That's not the way to win.
Kathie: Is there a way to win?
Jeff: There's a way to lose more slowly.

February 25, 2018, 09:59:43 PM
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Yeah, I read it as being quite upbeat, hope where there is despair etc.

That was the intention.
Jeff: That's not the way to win.
Kathie: Is there a way to win?
Jeff: There's a way to lose more slowly.

February 25, 2018, 10:00:39 PM
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Bluedylan


This is all true from you, as usual, mate, but we have to hope that Moshiri can see it.

The only evidence of his decisions so far are:

Sack Martinez ✅
Hire Walsh ❌
Hire Koeman ❌
Sack Koeman ✅
Give it to Unsworth (with no back-up plan) ❌
Hire Allardyce ❌

So, in my opinion, his decisions have been mainly poor.

Aye
Jeff: That's not the way to win.
Kathie: Is there a way to win?
Jeff: There's a way to lose more slowly.