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July 30, 2018, 08:11:23 PM
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KoemansNumberTens


It's of absolutely no consequence what he does in Germany, though, is it?

Surely when selling a prospect you have to consider his potential. So what he does after we sell him will be the evidence of if we got a good deal or not?


July 30, 2018, 08:13:25 PM
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Gash

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Fees inside the Premier League absolutely are relevant because, as a Premier League club, we have to pay inflated fees.

The fees we demand in return should really reflect that for players we want to keep.

It's not really though as clubs outside the Premier League don't pay those fees, Leipzig's offer reflects that, they're offering what they believe to be a fair offer.

It seems that there is a fee that we want, as we've not given a firm no and up until recently Leipzig keep bidding.

July 30, 2018, 08:14:13 PM
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KoemansNumberTens


It's of absolutely no consequence what he does in Germany, though, is it?

Surely when selling a prospect you have to consider his potential. So what he does after we sell him will be the evidence of if we got a good deal or not?
But teams outside of the Premier League, bar a handful, can't pay those fees. We have to be realistic when faced with situations that aren't ideal.

So he doesnít leave then. I couldnít go buy a mansion in London at a price I can afford because Iím poor. We donít want him to leave. So they shouldnít get a special rate because they donít have our wealth


July 30, 2018, 08:14:18 PM
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Toffee_4_Life


Lookman is an Everton player until the club say he isn't. The last 4 or 5 pages on here are bordering on mass hysteria. Two planes on an instagram post. lolol

He also removed ĎEvertoní from his twitter bio. Same as Richardson the day before he signed here

July 30, 2018, 08:14:44 PM
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Lxxx


Surely when selling a prospect you have to consider his potential. So what he does after we sell him will be the evidence of if we got a good deal or not?

What is more pertinent is what we do with the money/how we replace him. Once they're gone they're gone. What Everton do has to be our main focus.

July 30, 2018, 08:22:08 PM
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Evertonian in NC


You can't sell low and buy high when you are in Everton's position.

Nor can you simultaneously say it's ok to pay an inflated fee based on Richarlison's untapped potential (a fair argument which I have found somewhat persuasive since he was signed) but also ok to not worry about Lookman's only partially-tapped potential when NOT getting a similarly inflated fee.

This is bad business, end of.
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July 30, 2018, 08:30:43 PM
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KoemansNumberTens


What is more pertinent is what we do with the money/how we replace him. Once they're gone they're gone. What Everton do has to be our main focus.

Of course but the less we get the harder it becomes to improve with it. We canít get a top championship prospect with whatís been reported to be the fee

July 30, 2018, 08:36:03 PM
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sam of the south


He's only little...dunno why he needs 2 planes

Itís just greedy, isnít it.

Itís like that rapper 2 Chains.

Whatís wrong with the one?
 
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July 30, 2018, 08:36:38 PM
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Lxxx


Of course but the less we get the harder it becomes to improve with it. We canít get a top championship prospect with whatís been reported to be the fee

We have got a top international prospect though with the reported Lookman fee and the anonymous Klaassan fee. Therefore you'd have to say the first team has been improved for little outlay. Which is what it's all about.

July 30, 2018, 08:39:31 PM
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van der Meyde


But teams outside of the Premier League, bar a handful, can't pay those fees. We have to be realistic when faced with situations that aren't ideal.
So does Lookman though.

If Everton aren't offered a fee with which we he can be adequately replaced, he shouldn't be sold.

If Brands and Silva think they can? Crack on then. But swapping Lookman for Richarlison, and paying an extra £20m for the privilege, is not what we should be looking to do.
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July 30, 2018, 08:42:22 PM
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Evertonian in NC


I think people are just rationalizing because they don't want to think "oh, shit, here we go again with the same terrible business decision-making problems we've always had" - but I try to stay as objective as I can, and this just ain't good at all.

Losing our top prospect for peanuts, replacing him with the new manager's favourite for double the fee.  That's it.  Defense a shambles, less than 2 weeks from kickoff.  Troubling.
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July 30, 2018, 08:50:32 PM
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GLewis

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So does Lookman though.

If Everton aren't offered a fee with which we he can be adequately replaced, he shouldn't be sold.

If Brands and Silva think they can? Crack on then. But swapping Lookman for Richarlison, and paying an extra £20m for the privilege, is not what we should be looking to do.

Unless we think Richarlison is twice as likely to make it to the top ;)

July 30, 2018, 08:54:57 PM
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van der Meyde


Unless we think Richarlison is twice as likely to make it to the top ;)
Transfer fees are exponential, not linear, G! ;)
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July 30, 2018, 08:59:45 PM
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Lxxx


Would people have genuinely been happy with Lookman starting the season as our first choice left side attacker? Really? A lad who has played a handful of games for us and not shown enough to warrant a starting place in a blue shirt. He didn't even show enough to warrant a regular starting place at RB either.

Don't get me wrong I think he has talent but if you were to offer me Richarlison or Lookman, if having both wasn't an option, then it'd be the bigger, more physical, more experienced player. Let the club worry about the finance side of it and let's see how we're looking in a fortnights time.

July 30, 2018, 09:04:46 PM
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Evertonian in NC


It shouldn't be either/or.  I want them BOTH starting, unless we are getting big money from Lookman that we are putting immediately into a Batshuayi (or similar CF).  Move Walcott to the middle, I am nonplussed with Tosun.

Leipzig made the Europa semis, and they are desperate to have him there.  Hardly some minor footy outpost, certainly better calibre than Watford.
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