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August 14, 2018, 01:26:29 AM
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Juanito


He is either a stubborn, immature boy, or is being advised poorly by his agent. He needs to stop thinking about a move and get his head down and start performing.

He has the talent to be something special, but talent doesn't mean shit if you don't work your balls off and have the mental strength alongside it when things aren't going your way.

OR he had a bad experience here under Koeman/Allardyce- had a great experience at Leipzig and wants to move there, despite changes here. If his heart is there and it feels right for him, we should sell with a buy back clause like Barce do with us. The Allardyce treatment was embarrassing and unprofessional - unfortunately, that might have solidified it for him.


August 14, 2018, 01:29:29 AM
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OR he had a bad experience here under Koeman/Allardyce- had a great experience at Leipzig and wants to move there, despite changes here. If his heart is there and it feels right for him, we should sell with a buy back clause like Barce do with us. The Allardyce treatment was embarrassing and unprofessional - unfortunately, that might have solidified it for him.

Whatís the point of a buy back clause when he will have no intention of playing here again? It would be worthless

If he wants a move then he needs to hand a transfer request in and we need to get the fee we think heís worth

Iíve zero respect for someone who wants a move but wonít hand a transfer request in because they want their loyalty bonuses too. Itís practically fraud

August 14, 2018, 02:47:13 AM
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Juanito


Whatís the point of a buy back clause when he will have no intention of playing here again? It would be worthless

If he wants a move then he needs to hand a transfer request in and we need to get the fee we think heís worth

Iíve zero respect for someone who wants a move but wonít hand a transfer request in because they want their loyalty bonuses too. Itís practically fraud

Steady on now, donít know he has no intention of playing here again.


August 14, 2018, 03:46:57 AM
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Silas

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Everton have never had a problem giving young players a chance. If he doesn't get one that speaks volumes

August 14, 2018, 04:36:05 AM
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Gash

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I care about how much it would cost Everton to replace a promising young winger of Lookman's calibre (who we clearly do NOT want to lose), and our own internal valuation.

It doesn't cost a penny. You don't need to replace a player who has a handful of starts and hasn't played in the first team in 2018 other than brief run out a preseason.

August 14, 2018, 04:42:04 AM
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KoemansNumberTens


Steady on now, donít know he has no intention of playing here again.

Well itís extremely unlikely that heíll force his way out and then be happy to come back


August 14, 2018, 04:49:28 AM
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OR he had a bad experience here under Koeman/Allardyce- had a great experience at Leipzig and wants to move there, despite changes here. If his heart is there and it feels right for him, we should sell with a buy back clause like Barce do with us. The Allardyce treatment was embarrassing and unprofessional - unfortunately, that might have solidified it for him.

We ALL had a bad experience under Koeman/Allardyce (and we didn't get the luxury of going out on loan when Fat Boy was in charge), but none of us even thought for one second about leaving the club.

Neither do any of us get paid thousands each week to be part of it in some way.

He should thank his lucky fucking stars he has some semblance of a choice, because none of us poor bastards here do!
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August 14, 2018, 04:58:14 AM
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I don't give a tin shit about how much German teams usually bid on players.

I care about how much it would cost Everton to replace a promising young winger of Lookman's calibre (who we clearly do NOT want to lose), and our own internal valuation.

We will not be bullied into selling on the cheap.  End of.
We've already replaced him with a young winger of a better calibre than lookman, he's a young Brazilian lad called richarlison. If lookman wants out let him go, other than a few glimpses of his potential he's not offered anything to suggest he's as good as some on here make him out to be.

If we got north of 25m I'd snap the Germans hands off.
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August 14, 2018, 09:43:53 AM
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We ALL had a bad experience under Koeman/Allardyce (and we didn't get the luxury of going out on loan when Fat Boy was in charge), but none of us even thought for one second about leaving the club.

Neither do any of us get paid thousands each week to be part of it in some way.

He should thank his lucky fucking stars he has some semblance of a choice, because none of us poor bastards here do!

I hate this viewpoint. So arrogant, and ignorant.   

August 14, 2018, 10:31:45 AM
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Really?

Thatís pretty unnecessary if true; Silva hasnít wronged him in any way, he should be gracious and clap like everyone else.

He is a footballer. School wasnít his thing. He is just showing all the ladies he doesnít have the clap.
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August 14, 2018, 11:58:01 AM
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Whatís the point of a buy back clause when he will have no intention of playing here again? It would be worthless

If he wants a move then he needs to hand a transfer request in and we need to get the fee we think heís worth

Iíve zero respect for someone who wants a move but wonít hand a transfer request in because they want their loyalty bonuses too. Itís practically fraud

Is handing in a transfer request the only way you forfeit the loyalty bonuses?

Surely if you go on strike and refuse to play (not saying Lookman has done that necessarily) or go AWOL like Courtois (and Lukaku to a degree), you lose your entitlements?

August 14, 2018, 01:20:39 PM
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We ALL had a bad experience under Koeman/Allardyce (and we didn't get the luxury of going out on loan when Fat Boy was in charge), but none of us even thought for one second about leaving the club.

Neither do any of us get paid thousands each week to be part of it in some way.

He should thank his lucky fucking stars he has some semblance of a choice, because none of us poor bastards here do!

This is just a joke, right?

August 14, 2018, 01:30:56 PM
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Escla

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This is just a jokce, right?
Of course it is, itís just typical Blargs, tongue in cheek, I think itís quite humorous, no serious intent.

August 14, 2018, 02:15:29 PM
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It doesn't cost a penny. You don't need to replace a player who has a handful of starts and hasn't played in the first team in 2018 other than brief run out a preseason.
No way. Young players who are potentially very, very good definitely need to be replaced.

You may not need to replace their performance in the immediate term. We're well stocked with Richarlison, Lookman and Onyekuru all playing down the left too, so you might not need to spend that money in the same position either.

But we do need to replace that potential *somewhere* and that does cost a pretty penny. Long term we need to be maintaining/increasing our number of under 23 players, not reducing it, and that will involve spending plenty of money. It's short-sighted not to.
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August 14, 2018, 02:28:17 PM
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Gash

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No way. Young players who are potentially very, very good definitely need to be replaced.

You may not need to replace their performance in the immediate term. We're well stocked with Richarlison, Lookman and Onyekuru all playing down the left too, so you might not need to spend that money in the same position either.

But we do need to replace that potential *somewhere* and that does cost a pretty penny. Long term we need to be maintaining/increasing our number of under 23 players, not reducing it, and that will involve spending plenty of money. It's short-sighted not to.

I agree with most of that but that's not really the same. Of course we need to keep bringing on young players whether that's through our academy or going down the leagues and getting other young players with potential but that's just the cycle of any team sport. As an individual though Lookman doesn't need replaced as there's nothing there to replace.