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July 22, 2018, 06:27:01 PM
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No chance £35m is the going rate.

So far there’s been 205 players bought by premier league clubs this summer, only 7 of them have been for £30m or more.

It’s a very big fee whichever way people want to slice or dice it.

For a young, up and coming Brazilian ( hmmm), skillfuller and pacy, just the type of player our slow and dreary team needs. We are paying for potential, like United did with Martial, with the plus fact he has premier league experience. For our accountants he has sell on value.
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July 22, 2018, 06:27:55 PM
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July 22, 2018, 06:31:04 PM
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Plus add ons as well mate.

Including add ons according to the echo.
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July 22, 2018, 06:32:23 PM
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Just to clarify, I have no real problem with paying £35m for Richarlison, I think it's a bit high but as it probably includes compensation to Watford then fine.

My problem will be if, if, IF we sell lookman for £20m or less. That will make the deal look ridiculous.

That's all I'm saying, and it's all speculation
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July 22, 2018, 06:32:33 PM
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Ok. Take off 10 mill for Silva (we were prepared to pay in excess of 15 mill remember).

Does 25 rising to 30 sound better then?

Don’t believe the Silva thing for one second.

Firstly why would Brands, a DoF, who’s reputation lives and dies by buying a selling players for value risk paying an extremely high fee just to accommodate previous recruitment cock ups? And secondly why wouldn’t Watford rather not keep the player and get the compensation if Everton are trying to back door it like that?
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July 22, 2018, 06:35:40 PM
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Similar age, same position, very similar attributes and both just had a good half a season in a good league

I'd say they were if not the same, very similar

Similar sure but if we’re being very honest with ourselves, richarlison tearing up the prem for half a year is worth a great deal more then Lookman looking quite good in Germany for half a season.

I would back Lookman to have a season matching richarlison I really would, but richarlison the safer bet at this point. Plus he’s bigger and stronger and maybe quicker so he’s also less likely to lose value.
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July 22, 2018, 06:36:13 PM
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Don’t believe the Silva thing for one second.

Firstly why would Brands, a DoF, who’s reputation lives and dies by buying a selling players for value risk paying an extremely high fee just to accommodate previous recruitment cock ups? And secondly why wouldn’t Watford rather not keep the player and get the compensation if Everton are trying to back door it like that?

Because:
A) The player wants to play for Silva
B) Paying it seperately could be seen as admission of guilt, even if its mutually agreed
C) If they take it to court it could take ages, and then in the end they get less money than offered or the same money but its worth less because either transfer fees keep going up or sterling becomes worth less than sand after a no deal brexit.

Or, y'know, Brands thinks he's worth the £35m on a 6 year deal even without any side payment.
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July 22, 2018, 06:36:13 PM
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Don’t believe the Silva thing for one second.

Firstly why would Brands, a DoF, who’s reputation lives and dies by buying a selling players for value risk paying an extremely high fee just to accommodate previous recruitment cock ups? And secondly why wouldn’t Watford rather not keep the player and get the compensation if Everton are trying to back door it like that?

Because previous recruitment cock ups still exist regardless of whether he is here or not. We would end up paying Watford some compensation regardless of whether we went for Richarlison or not.

Watford probably do want to keep the player in an ideal world.
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July 22, 2018, 06:37:24 PM
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What would people say is a reasonable fee then?

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July 22, 2018, 06:39:58 PM
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What would people say is a reasonable fee then?



The way some are going on here, Watford should be paying us to take him.
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July 22, 2018, 06:42:41 PM
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What would people say is a reasonable fee then?

If it wasn't for the Lookman price rumours I don't think anyone would even blink at the £35m.

Same price as unproven Felipe Anderson, or what Malcom is costing Roma(Who being honest, 90% of us hadnt heard of before last week), or slightly more than half what City are paying for Mahrez, or 2/3 of the cost of an older Willian in the last year of his deal.

July 22, 2018, 06:43:15 PM
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What would people say is a reasonable fee then?

Some would say double the Arteta money easy

Others would make the spurs Enic international blush .

Id say it's about average .
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July 22, 2018, 06:43:34 PM
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Because:
A) The player wants to play for Silva
B) Paying it seperately could be seen as admission of guilt, even if its mutually agreed
C) If they take it to court it could take ages, and then in the end they get less money than offered or the same money but its worth less because either transfer fees keep going up or sterling becomes worth less than sand after a no deal brexit.

Not sure Watford care one way or another if Richarlison wants to play for Silva, why would they? They could sell him to anybody.

By paying it either way is an acknowledgment of guilt surely? Otherwise why pay it at all? Not like we’re a charity handing out cash.

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July 22, 2018, 06:45:27 PM
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Similar sure but if we’re being very honest with ourselves, richarlison tearing up the prem for half a year is worth a great deal more then Lookman looking quite good in Germany for half a season.

I would back Lookman to have a season matching richarlison I really would, but richarlison the safer bet at this point. Plus he’s bigger and stronger and maybe quicker so he’s also less likely to lose value.

Yes but lookman is also English which increases his value here "but ok" I'll say fair enough.

Richarlison is currently probably the better prospect so yeah I'd say you're right on that
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July 22, 2018, 06:45:47 PM
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Not sure Watford care one way or another if Richarlison wants to play for Silva, why would they? They could sell him to anybody.

By paying it either way is an acknowledgment of guilt surely? Otherwise why pay it at all? Not like we’re a charity handing out cash.

Because for all intents and purposes the paperwork will say the money is for the transfer of Richarlison, so there is no written proof of any admission.  Just suposition and nods and winks.