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December 07, 2018, 05:12:38 PM
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I generally agree with you too.

He's a pretty good player and one that we've needed, not a can't-miss player that we absolutely have to add to our midfield permanently.

Obviously, he has the raw tools to be something special but at some point before we consider buying him, he has to actually perform at that level, not just hint at the possibility of it.
What do you mean "raw tools"? The guy is absolute!! quality compared to those around him.

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December 07, 2018, 05:51:48 PM
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Ramjam


Need a right back, Coleman is on the decline and I donít think we can gamble on him turning his form around, heís going to start costing us points if heís not replaced
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December 07, 2018, 06:19:40 PM
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Need a right back, Coleman is on the decline and I donít think we can gamble on him turning his form around, heís going to start costing us points if heís not replaced

He had a mare going forward the other night ....his defensive is still as good but he's not even trying to bomb on anymore or look for the pass that let's the winger get in behind ...too comfortable with only Kenny pushing him .
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December 07, 2018, 06:53:06 PM
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Gomez is absolute class....pay the money get the deal done...end of...

this "not progressive" argument falls flat on it's face for me....many times the other night he looked for the forward pass which wasn't on because Tosun isn't clever enough to make the creative run...so Gomes had to turn out and start again....when richarlison went upfront...quite frankly IMO he didn't wanna know...so again gomes looked for him but had to turn out....it was only better for the short time when Calvert Lewin came on...his movement gave Gomes the opportunity to play the ball he looked like he wanted to play.....


You can only play "progressive" passes if the players in front are you are capable......the progressive pass for me is the ball forward into space that creates a chance.....we haven't got the CF for that yet....


My other issue with this "not progressive" nonsense is simply we dont have the third man running that "progressive" football requires....siggurdson was well of it the other night....lookman was making runs and "drifting" inside and taking up the space for this to happen.....


like i said....pay the money get the deal done...end of...

December 07, 2018, 06:53:33 PM
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Bluenose 91


He's lost a bit defensively for me as well.

Got done by a simple shift to the side for that goal the other night.

Get the Wan-Bissaka fella in.

December 07, 2018, 06:57:13 PM
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formerKHL


he cant be "progressive2 if he's defending ?


December 07, 2018, 06:59:26 PM
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he cant be "progressive2 if he's defending ?

Think he means Coleman there, champ.

December 07, 2018, 07:24:48 PM
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He had a mare going forward the other night ....his defensive is still as good but he's not even trying to bomb on anymore or look for the pass that let's the winger get in behind ...too comfortable with only Kenny pushing him .
................Coleman has been  too predictable going down the right and not just this season. I like Kenny but his all round game is not really any better than Coleman at the moment. 
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December 07, 2018, 07:29:07 PM
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formerKHL


Think he means Coleman there, champ.


DOH!! didn't read it properly..what a numpty

December 07, 2018, 07:35:54 PM
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What do you mean "raw tools"? The guy is absolute!! quality compared to those around him.

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his stats mutch be lousy. Not sure Kramer looks at the game or just look at the stats After the game  ;)

December 07, 2018, 07:37:34 PM
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even on his current form, Cap'n Coleman >> Kenny.

Deffo open to the idea of pulling a right-sided version of the Digne upgrade this summer, though.
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December 07, 2018, 07:54:23 PM
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formerKHL


nowt wrong with coleman...people have short memories it appears.....year out with leg break ?...

he maybe now feels in the team set up he doesn't need to "bomb forward" as much with Walcott/lookman DCL etc up ahead of him....someone mentioned in an earlier post how lookman was taking his space and having to move inside and then basically went onto suggest it was colemans fault..?...the other night Newcastle were obviously looking and waiting to hit us on the break...the only time they managed that was when he "bombed forward"......maybe jusyt maybe he's now old enough to realise he doesn't need to.....

December 07, 2018, 11:03:21 PM
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nowt wrong with coleman...people have short memories it appears.....year out with leg break ?...

he maybe now feels in the team set up he doesn't need to "bomb forward" as much with Walcott/lookman DCL etc up ahead of him....someone mentioned in an earlier post how lookman was taking his space and having to move inside and then basically went onto suggest it was colemans fault..?...the other night Newcastle were obviously looking and waiting to hit us on the break...the only time they managed that was when he "bombed forward"......maybe jusyt maybe he's now old enough to realise he doesn't need to.....

He does need to, thatís the whole point. The modern full back has to have the energy to get up and down, itís no longer good enough to just be decent defensively.

Itís not his fault, age and injury have caught up with him, it seems. Unless something changes in what remains of the season and he recovers then itís time for a change. Itís worked on the other side with Digne and Baines, great servants but they have all have a shelf life, some earlier than others due to injury and position.

December 08, 2018, 12:34:52 AM
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he cant be "progressive2 if he's defending ?

Is Progressive2 down with @brap2 🤔
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December 08, 2018, 12:42:18 AM
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Coleman hasnít looked like his old impenetrable self at the back either.

He used to cut out most crosses (which even Baines didnít do in his heyday) as well as get up and down like a racehourse, but now heís making a fair few mistimed challenges as well, which he also used to be solid on. 

Heís amazing, and one of my favourite ever Everton players, but since his return he hasnít convinced going forward or made me feel comfortable when heís defending.

Iím hoping for a strong return to form from him, but I wouldnít be surprised if this was the start of his decline.
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