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January 09, 2019, 02:48:35 AM
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Think we’ve had more poor performances than good 1s

And?
Hey there mister can you tell me what happened to the seeds I've sown
Can you give me a reason sir as to why they've never grown


January 09, 2019, 02:51:33 AM
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we now have to play all the top 6 bar spurs at home , some will say playing them all away 1st as not helped in the 1st part of the season , I am of the other type not playing them at home gave us more them at home we should be getting the 3 points of , now in the 2nd part of the season we have less teams at home we should be getting the 3 point of

for 4/5 years we have been chasing that 1st year under Roberto its like someone on drugs chasing that 1st high , we were to be getting something new with this managers and all some of us can see is more of the same shoehorning players into a system/style of play that is and has not worked for us is getting a bit boring

are best game of the season we played 3421 and a 1-5 win then shoehorned 2 players into that system and lost so its back to the old 4231 that has been working so fucking well for us in the last 4 years

he can be a nice guy that all the players love and talk great about all he wants for me its about a hell of a lot more than that and we are not getting that or looking like we are going to get it out of him …..YET

is it time to be calling for his head lol no that will be when this team that (and I quote) any manager would get Everton 8th fails go get 7/8th

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January 09, 2019, 03:23:19 AM
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Martip


Moshri 'We put a big bet on Marco and we stick with him.’     but.....   'I look at the table and it is just not good enough.’

Looks like he's happy to keep Silva but wants a lot more bang for his buck. Fair dos really.


January 09, 2019, 04:07:02 AM
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A no nonsense statement from the club. Winning the league, takes commitment and luck. It's all looking positive, with the huge exception of on the pitch. The best thing that could happen to us, to back this up, is an FA cup win. Marco needs to get his arse in gear. :wag:




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January 09, 2019, 06:18:20 AM
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Dire football?

Wow, we've clearly been watching a different game.

I think the attacking play has been excellent at times, just lacking in an end product unless it's Richarlison or Sigurdsson.

It's sentences like dire football for six months that makes people not take some opinions seriously.

Balance, please, otherwise what's the point?

Maybe I’m just getting tired after several poor seasons in a row but I’ve missed/tuned out of more Everton games this season than I ever have before.

We had a few games against the top sides where we were brave enough to play football (Chelsea and Liverpool) but other than that I can’t think of many performances this season that I’d call good football or entertaining.

Maybe it will suddenly ‘click’ under Silva and come on leaps and bounds, but I’ve never really seen that happen with other teams. Improvement is usually gradual and if you compare our recent performances with the earlier in the season we’re probably getting worse.

January 09, 2019, 06:22:35 AM
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sam of the south


Maybe I’m just getting tired after several poor seasons in a row but I’ve missed/tuned out of more Everton games this season than I ever have before.

We had a few games against the top sides where we were brave enough to play football (Chelsea and Liverpool) but other than that I can’t think of many performances this season that I’d call good football or entertaining.

Maybe it will suddenly ‘click’ under Silva and come on leaps and bounds, but I’ve never really seen that happen with other teams. Improvement is usually gradual and if you compare our recent performances with the earlier in the season we’re probably getting worse.

We’ve looked great going forward in quite a few games, Leicester Away (particularly the 1st half) Brighton at Home, and Burnley Away
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January 09, 2019, 06:38:50 AM
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We've looked great going forward in quite a few games, Leicester Away (particularly the 1st half) Brighton at Home, and Burnley Away

I agree with Leicester and Brighton maybe, but the Burnley scoreline was much better than the performance

January 09, 2019, 01:53:31 PM
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I think there’s two questions really.

Firstly, are we any better?

Yes, we are better. We are not so much better that it’s immediately apparent in the table, although I expect that to change, but we are dealing with whole new issues from last year as well as some of the old faves. We are getting more shots off, scoring more goals, having the ball more in the final third and allowing fewer chances.

Number 2 - are we good? No, to be honest we’re not. We’re pretty average and pretty average teams win some scrappy games and lose some, hence why they come mid table.

We need to increase the amount of quality in the squad, move some bad apples along and fix the previously discussed balance issues on the pitch and within the wider squad.

But in the meantime, especially with Marco’s style, there are going to be some ups and some downs. It is going to take a few years to get really back on our feet. I’m fairly confident Brands knows what he’s doing, and admittedly a lot less confident in Marco, but the whole point of a multi year rebuild is that the guy really driving the train is Brands, and he hasn’t given us a reason to doubt him yet.

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January 09, 2019, 02:54:45 PM
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KoemansNumberTens


And?

There’s very little sign of a pattern of progress. More just the odd good performance in a season of similar shit, worse results despite a better squad

January 09, 2019, 03:25:41 PM
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There’s very little sign of a pattern of progress. More just the odd good performance in a season of similar shit, worse results despite a better squad

Read the post above.

Think that perfectly sums it up.
Hey there mister can you tell me what happened to the seeds I've sown
Can you give me a reason sir as to why they've never grown

January 09, 2019, 03:48:13 PM
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It would be a miracle if we weren't playing better and more attractive football with Richarlison, Bernard, Gomes, Digne and Zouma on the pitch instead of Lennon, Schneiderlin, Klaassen, Cuco and Williams, no matter who the manager is.
So it doesn't say much about Silva and doesn't justify poor results.

January 09, 2019, 04:19:09 PM
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Anyone who thinks that we aren’t playing better football has “last season amnesia”.

The football we played last season was dreadful. The management was equally dreadful. The quality of players we had at our disposal doesn’t even compare to this season.

The way of the world now is to want instant gratification, and instant success. People want things now, and in some cases, that is fair enough. We all want to read that Everton are contenders for the league or champions league, and we all want success as soon as possible.

But trying to achieve what Everton are trying to do requires a lot of patience, and a great long term strategy. Constantly chopping and changing things because we haven’t won much in the short term completely goes against this.

The way I see it with managers is that it is like an investment into a stock. You always have a rationale for buying the stock at the outset. If the stock falls in price, you only sell it if that rationale has fundamentally changed from the reason that you bought it in the first place. Why did we hire Marco Silva, and has the rationale changed? We hired him to play a better brand of football and get closer to the top 6, and to some extent, I believe come the end of the season, he will have partially achieved this. We might not get closer to the top 6 this season, but I do think his time will come and we have the right man in place.

I want to see Silva given at least 3 years before he is judged on whether he will succeed in bringing our goals as a club to fruition. I am very happy that Brands is now here for the long term, so that we stop making irresponsible and rash decisions that only set us back rather than stabilise/move us forward.


January 09, 2019, 04:43:46 PM
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Moshiri's comment last night said it all. When he looks at the table it isn't good enough. Irrespective of all the good work Brands is doing, and he is changing the overall quality of the squad pretty impressively, we do need to start seeing more consistency. Not just in terms or results.


January 09, 2019, 05:15:43 PM
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Anyone who thinks that we aren’t playing better football has “last season amnesia”.

The football we played last season was dreadful. The management was equally dreadful. The quality of players we had at our disposal doesn’t even compare to this season.

The way of the world now is to want instant gratification, and instant success. People want things now, and in some cases, that is fair enough. We all want to read that Everton are contenders for the league or champions league, and we all want success as soon as possible.

But trying to achieve what Everton are trying to do requires a lot of patience, and a great long term strategy. Constantly chopping and changing things because we haven’t won much in the short term completely goes against this.

The way I see it with managers is that it is like an investment into a stock. You always have a rationale for buying the stock at the outset. If the stock falls in price, you only sell it if that rationale has fundamentally changed from the reason that you bought it in the first place. Why did we hire Marco Silva, and has the rationale changed? We hired him to play a better brand of football and get closer to the top 6, and to some extent, I believe come the end of the season, he will have partially achieved this. We might not get closer to the top 6 this season, but I do think his time will come and we have the right man in place.

I want to see Silva given at least 3 years before he is judged on whether he will succeed in bringing our goals as a club to fruition. I am very happy that Brands is now here for the long term, so that we stop making irresponsible and rash decisions that only set us back rather than stabilise/move us forward.



Better players, playing better football under better management..... results are worse. How’s that work/ we just really unlucky

January 09, 2019, 05:38:41 PM
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Better players, playing better football under better management..... results are worse. How’s that work/ we just really unlucky

Because it's a short term view of things. You can't completely judge someone over 21 games. It takes time to shape a philosophy and strategy. judge results over 3 years and then we can assess how well he is doing.