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February 19, 2019, 12:55:39 PM
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Thinking about this the day after ,if the club are upset at these being released -drawings anyone of us could have thought up -then luckily the artist's impressions haven't yet been leaked .Dan would have had these a year ago for sure as these won't contradict any feedback from the fans or even fulfill them .We are much luckier than the Dodgers fans it seems because that really is a waste of a great location ,what can you see from the waterside?


Oops reread it and realised it isn't the Dodgers home but in fact San Francisco giants .
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February 19, 2019, 02:47:26 PM
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Id be amazed if the car park was that side.

A) because cars would need to get past the stadium which means finding access routes in an already restricted area and b) because going to the waterfront in the first place is for aesthetic considerations like the pictures/ view from executive seating on that side of the stadium etc.
...................I'm wondering why there needs to be a channel between the stadium and the river ?  Is it needed for navigation or just for aesthetic purposes ? 
From the plan of the docks it looks as if Nelson Dock can be accessed from Trafalgar Dock to the South. To the North of B-M there is a river entrance lock.  It's not needed for the canal boats as they turn inland at Stanley Dock.
Unless of course the dock entrance to Trafalgar is out of use ?
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February 19, 2019, 04:47:13 PM
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Toddacelli


...................I'm wondering why there needs to be a channel between the stadium and the river ?  Is it needed for navigation or just for aesthetic purposes ? 
From the plan of the docks it looks as if Nelson Dock can be accessed from Trafalgar Dock to the South. To the North of B-M there is a river entrance lock.  It's not needed for the canal boats as they turn inland at Stanley Dock.
Unless of course the dock entrance to Trafalgar is out of use ?

I would guess health and safety - as most things are - but it would be a complete guess.
It does make sense though that every side with exits has an area that fans can exit into safely and quickly in the event of an emergency.
    

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February 19, 2019, 10:31:30 PM
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Bingham Boy


Great but why so steep??

No one goes on about how great the steepness is in St James' park or the Top Balcony

Theres nothing intimidating about a stand where everyone, or theback half, has to sit down in.

February 19, 2019, 10:42:08 PM
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Great but why so steep??

No one goes on about how great the steepness is in St James' park or the Top Balcony

Theres nothing intimidating about a stand where everyone, or theback half, has to sit down in.

equally nobody likes the Olympic Stadium in London....

getting people closer to the pitch is seen as being how to generate an atmosphere

it's not, but it's better than The London Stadium concept....

February 19, 2019, 11:07:26 PM
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Great but why so steep??

No one goes on about how great the steepness is in St James' park or the Top Balcony

Theres nothing intimidating about a stand where everyone, or theback half, has to sit down in.

Its so steep because people have misunderstood what gives Goodison its close to the pitch feel... so in all the surveys people were asking for "steep stands close to the pitch". Infact what gives Goodison its unique close to the pitch feel are the double decker stands.

I have seen this at work, ie people suggest a solution instead of specifying the requirement and letting the engineers come up with the best solution.


February 20, 2019, 01:23:37 AM
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equally nobody likes the Olympic Stadium in London....

getting people closer to the pitch is seen as being how to generate an atmosphere

it's not, but it's better than The London Stadium concept....

The London stadium doesnot start at the same point.

A steep stand doesnot mean closer, its an illusion,fans are are actually further away.

The Park End as an example has 700mm legroom justlike Bramley Moore but the height each row would be say 12 inches to bramley moors 18 inches.

 So fans there on say row 30 would be the samedistance away from the goal line but in Bramley moore be 15 foot higher, therefore further away

February 20, 2019, 02:40:25 AM
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Makis


Goodison Park is not a good example on stand building any more. Regulations don't allow those distances. For new stadiums, if you make the stand less steep the seats will be farther away.

February 20, 2019, 03:47:24 AM
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Bingham Boy


Goodison Park is not a good example on stand building any more. Regulations don't allow those distances. For new stadiums, if you make the stand less steep the seats will be farther away.

As you say youre not allowed some of the stand dimensions in a new build but it maynotmean youhave to go to extreme steepness

February 20, 2019, 05:38:35 AM
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Shropshire Blue

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For fuck's sake, don't put a car park between the ground and the water.


If you're going to build a stadium by the water, do it right. As a Dodgers fan, it pains me to do this but.......




I seem to remember that because of the heritage issues they have to keep the channel so what else do they do with it? Car parks can also be built imaginatively the worse scenario is the top deck being open, the outer walls can be anything you want - like the walls of a new stadium can be.
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February 20, 2019, 06:16:16 AM
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bluenuck


equally nobody likes the Olympic Stadium in London....

getting people closer to the pitch is seen as being how to generate an atmosphere

it's not, but it's better than The London Stadium concept....

Remember as well. London Stadium wasn't a specifically designed football stadium. People saying they don't want our new ground to be like that need to relax. Everton aren't a track and field club.

February 20, 2019, 06:16:48 AM
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bluenuck


I seem to remember that because of the heritage issues they have to keep the channel so what else do they do with it? Car parks can also be built imaginatively the worse scenario is the top deck being open, the outer walls can be anything you want - like the walls of a new stadium can be.

The most expensive car park in the world...

February 20, 2019, 06:19:57 AM
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http://tnward.com/keystone-sports-entertainment-talen-energy-stadium#!prettyPhoto[keystone-sports-entertainment-talen-energy-stadium]/3/

Philadelphia Union stadium on waterfront.  Not sure if any similarities with new design for Bramley Moore.

February 20, 2019, 01:34:28 PM
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Toddacelli


Not sure if any similarities with new design for Bramley Moore.

Ha! Hope not! We have actual weather over here! :)
    

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