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November 19, 2019, 05:07:33 PM
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I don't dislike Liverpool, but coming from Monaco where its flush with luxury yachts, massive casinos, sports cars, millionaires and much more favorable weather it probably is a bit of a come down and a bit sad, I don't think many could deny that.
Monaco don't really attract people for their great heritage, more the location and lack of tax.

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November 19, 2019, 05:10:23 PM
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The French word “Melancolie” can be translated as sad/sadness. (Not being smart ass, googled it)

True, but the words 'melancholy and 'sad' communicate something slightly different in English (imo). Melancholy is a little subtler.
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November 19, 2019, 05:13:30 PM
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I don't dislike Liverpool, but coming from Monaco where its flush with luxury yachts, massive casinos, sports cars, millionaires and much more favorable weather it probably is a bit of a come down and a bit sad, I don't think many could deny that.
Monaco don't really attract people for their great heritage, more the location and lack of tax.

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But Monaco hasn't got UNESCO World Heritage site status - how can it possibly be somewhere nice to visit or live?


November 19, 2019, 05:14:09 PM
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True, but the words 'melancholy and 'sad' communicate something slightly different in English (imo). Melancholy is a little subtler.

The interview would have been in French, no?

November 19, 2019, 05:23:27 PM
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The interview would have been in French, no?

Yep, I was describing it as 'melancholy' in English.

Also, 'triste' is 'sad' in French, and 'mélancolie' is melancholy.
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November 19, 2019, 05:24:22 PM
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Cheeky bastard, there is nothing sad about Liverpool, it's an amazing City


November 19, 2019, 05:49:05 PM
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Cheeky bastard, there is nothing sad about Liverpool, it's an amazing City

I think we would have to see the original article in French (tried but it’s behind a pay wall) before we chop his legs off, if you take the comma away in the translation he says “Liverpool is a sad town that went through some suffering in the past”. Well, at least he knows his history !

November 19, 2019, 05:55:33 PM
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Liverpool's an incredibly beautiful city, in my opinion.
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November 19, 2019, 05:59:36 PM
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Macca77


Liverpool's an incredibly beautiful city, in my opinion.

It is, I'm biased like, but this city does amaze me, there's always something on in and around town, just keeps getting better and better.

November 19, 2019, 06:26:33 PM
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Liverpool's an incredibly beautiful city, in my opinion.
Agreed. But as someone who also lives in Manchester, you dont go through any of the beautiful parts on the way to the ground.
He should have been wiser than to make any comment though.

He lives in Bowdon btw. That and the neighbouring Hale are a proper footballers and millionaires area.

November 19, 2019, 06:31:21 PM
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Love Manchester, but it feels like a city that's been built in the last 20 years with nothing much to see.

I stayed there for the weekend for my birthday and all we did was drink, eat and go shopping. Great city though.

Liverpool is more of a city break type place. Loads of history, sights and all that type of stuff. Two great cities, with great people.
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November 19, 2019, 06:33:48 PM
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Agreed. But as someone who also lives in Manchester, you dont go through any of the beautiful parts on the way to the ground.
He should have been wiser than to make any comment though.

He lives in Bowdon btw. That and the neighbouring Hale are a proper footballers and millionaires area.

I think places like Bowden, Hale, Alderley Edge etc. are no brainers for incoming players for Everton, Liverpool, Utd. and City because there are so many rental properties vacated on an annual basis as foreign players for those clubs move out again, some letting agents making a fortune there !

November 19, 2019, 06:44:33 PM
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Yep, I was describing it as 'melancholy' in English.

Also, 'triste' is 'sad' in French, and 'mélancolie' is melancholy.
It’s not just about translating word for word. Languages have their own logic and nuances.

Like in English if you’re hungry you say I am hungry. A French person would laugh at that because they would say no you are not hungry (I know this because a French person did laugh at me when I said Je suis faim). You are a human being. You can’t be a feeling. They say i have hunger which actually makes more sense when you think about it.

So I guess it depends not only who has translated word for word but if they actually understand the logic or both languages too.

I’d imagine you understand this anyway.

I wouldn’t worry too much about it. All cities have their good areas and “sad” areas.


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November 19, 2019, 07:49:07 PM
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Love Manchester, but it feels like a city that's been built in the last 20 years with nothing much to see.

I stayed there for the weekend for my birthday and all we did was drink, eat and go shopping. Great city though.

Liverpool is more of a city break type place. Loads of history, sights and all that type of stuff. Two great cities, with great people.

So much more to see in Liverpool than most other UK cities to be honest. Manchester just doesn't have a whole lot going for it in terms of tourism because as you say it doesn't have as much culture/history as Liverpool.

November 19, 2019, 08:29:09 PM
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True, but the words 'melancholy and 'sad' communicate something slightly different in English (imo). Melancholy is a little subtler.
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