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777Kidnappings wrote: Fri May 15, 2026 2:18 pm The problem is youre signing him through his decline on probably 1 of our biggest contracts. Moshiri would have made that signing.
Erm, it’s not your money mate
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AjaxAndy wrote: Fri May 15, 2026 1:44 pm Ordinarily I'd be totally against signings like Bowen and Toney, but we have so many young promising talents at the club that I'm happy for us to splurge on some real game changers that you just know will add something in we desperately need.
Young promising talents only take a step up when they get to play regularly though.

If we're clogging the squad with 30 year olds (Bowen, Toney, Grealish) who Moyes will play first and foremost for the next couple of years, aside from getting no money back for those deals, the kids as we've seen this season will mostly get to enjoy the bench and not develop or leave in search of playing time. If we're not planning a major role and step up in playing time for the likes of Dibling, Tim, Aznou, Rohl next season we should be looking to sell them as it's a waste of time otherwise and they become depreciating assets alongside with the older players. You know there is no way we give Dibling any significant playing time if we have Grealish and Bowen around.

I'd also kinda say it's just a bit boring too. We should be going after a Rayan type rather than a Bowen if we've already very likely got Grealish and experienced players like Ndiaye and KDH to lean on.
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blueToffee wrote: Fri May 15, 2026 3:19 pm Young promising talents only take a step up when they get to play regularly though.

If we're clogging the squad with 30 year olds (Bowen, Toney, Grealish) who Moyes will play first and foremost for the next couple of years, aside from getting no money back for those deals, the kids as we've seen this season will mostly get to enjoy the bench and not develop or leave in search of playing time. If we're not planning a major role and step up in playing time for the likes of Dibling, Tim, Aznou, Rohl next season we should be looking to sell them as it's a waste of time otherwise and they become depreciating assets alongside with the older players. You know there is no way we give Dibling any significant playing time if we have Grealish and Bowen around.

I'd also kinda say it's just a bit boring too. We should be going after a Rayan type rather than a Bowen if we've already very likely got Grealish and experienced players like Ndiaye and KDH to lean on.
Moyes will always be cautious of playing inexperienced players, so whether we sign experience or inexperience is actually a really pressing issue... Why sign more inexperienced players if the manager will continue to use them sporadically?

If you want a manager to go all in on the youth then you also want a new manager.

If Moyes is staying then it's pointless clogging the squad with younger players. Give him some experienced game changers and move the needle significantly.

Imagine a season where instead of McNeil regularly playing we have Bowen there instead. Equally same impact having Toney Vs Beto / Barry.

Whether people agree or not with this transfer policy, if we want to be seriously challenging top 6 with this manager then there's no logic signing foreign 22 year olds and asking him to use them, especially when the bench is stacked with them already.
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brap2 wrote: Fri May 15, 2026 2:59 pm Erm, it’s not your money mate
I sometimes forget im not a billionaire accountant who knows what hes doing
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777Kidnappings wrote: Fri May 15, 2026 4:14 pm I sometimes forget im not a billionaire accountant who knows nothing about what hes doing
fixed
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Here's hoping we don't repeat last year.

Court a fullback:
- get him in the building
- have his club realise they don't want to lose him on a free so offer him a new contract
- get rejected
- have exactly zero contingency plans
- JOB starts as rightback and Kean at centre half due to Branthwaite breaking down in pre-season
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If we go out and spend the better part of £75m on two 30+ year old wingers on big wages Ill give up.
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🗞️Everton have made contact over a deal for Burnley Defender Maxime Estéve. Bournemouth and Nottingham Forest have also made contact for the Frenchman. Bayer Leverkusen are also interested.

(Source - L’Equipe )
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blueToffee wrote: Tue May 19, 2026 4:57 pm
Asked my Sunderland mate about him this morning when I saw that he was linked.

Said he's 'not bad', more of a DM than an RB, and can't get in their team most weeks.

Doesn't sound great tbh, but actually probably still a massive upgrade on O'Brien there.
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Esteve looks decent enough.

Left footed I think so hopefully with the addition of a new RB he can slot straight in with JOB next season.

I just simply can't be seeing any more of Tarks.
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No more players from Burnley please
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TheRam wrote: Tue May 19, 2026 6:53 pm No more players from Burnley please
Don't worry, they will be coming from the other team in claret and blue, West Ham.
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superpull wrote: Tue May 19, 2026 11:40 am Here's hoping we don't repeat last year.

Court a fullback:
- get him in the building
- have his club realise they don't want to lose him on a free so offer him a new contract
- get rejected
- have exactly zero contingency plans
- JOB starts as rightback and Kean at centre half due to Branthwaite breaking down in pre-season
I can feel my heartburn kicking in already.
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