Iliman Ndiaye

[MmmBlueBranthwaite]

Not arsed. Hes still go 3 years left and were under no financial pressure to let him go. It would take an offer we cant refuse to change that.

[777Kidnappings]

Here's some context from Bobble, doesn't seem to be anything unusual to worry about right now, other than a decent World Cup performance

We'd have to be absolute lunatics to pay him more and give him a 40m release clause. Hes got 3 years left on relatively shit wages. Any release clause should be well above a fee wed accept today. 80m??

[Gary1878]

As much as I love Illi and as good as he is on the ball, he doesn’t produce enough in terms of goals and assists to command the big money. Too many chances wasted in terms of that final pass or shot. Those numbers have to go up. Despite being a magician with the ball at his feet, it’s the goal involvements that really matter.

If he can change that and have a big season next year then it will force our hand into giving him a large contract, but I honestly think he has a bit to prove.

6 goals and 3 assists. As Mark Hanna would say, those are Rookie numbers.

[TheRam]

Everything reported suggests to me that this is a player looking to move on at the quickest opportunity.

Not sure anyone should feel so confident that he isn’t the type of character to force a move either.

Once a club shows serious interest I don’t see us keeping him unfortunately.

[blueToffee]

Everything reported suggests to me that this is a player looking to move on at the quickest opportunity.

Not sure anyone should feel so confident that he isn’t the type of character to force a move either.

Once a club shows serious interest I don’t see us keeping him unfortunately.

Sounds like he'd be pretty open to a move, I mean most at the club would think they can go another level up be it with the club improving or via another club, and if they weren't that ambitious for the most part they really shouldn't be here.

We are in a pretty strong position even if he throws a strop that if he has a great World Cup and lots of people come after him to ask for a good amount for him, and right now that's about as good as we can do as a club. Well that and making sure we have someone else lined up if it's not Dibling yet. If it was Dibling and he turned into that player, then that would be some amazing future planning on our part actually.

I think if he's looking to stay in the PL, there are about 4/5 teams that might go after him and he might be excited enough to push for an exit. Man United, Villa (if Rodgers leaves), Arsenal (unlikely, but maybe they want more of a wild card to add to their attack), Newcastle (Gordon money to spend?). I'd probably say really it was down to Man United/Villa as the most likely though. So it might be a fairly small list of PL teams that might even decide to go for him and they may well opt to spend elsewhere at the end of the day.

For me I think 60/40 he goes. Odds of him leaving go up a lot if he makes a big World Cup splash, likewise probably more likely he stays if he has a stinker. Think whatever the situation we could probably get around 50-55 mil for him without the World Cup factored in. A good tournament and we'd probably be able to get 60+ pretty easily. Either way, from a purely financial perspective it would be a pretty good return for the club IF we're able to replace.

[Audrey Horne]

I think United will buy him

Would also mean his family don't have to move.

They are having big house renovations currently so would be ideal for them

[Cods]

We could also be conditioned somewhat that when it comes to us, any talk = departure.

Almost expect this to disappear this summer unless there's a big bid. It seems we're not as easy to force down on asking price (eg. Branthwaite) any longer.

With Lookman, Gordon, Rooney, Vlasic, Barkley, Stones, Lescott, Lukaku, Richarlison even to some extent, they're hardly ever known for being former Everton players, I think I'm a bit over having another one added to the list where we've either taken on risk or struck it lucky that ultimately helps another club perhaps more significantly. Same for all clubs except the top 5 or 6 where cash overrides all risk.

[Goaljira]

I think if anything the Branthwaite situation will make us more likely to cash in on any offer. Its a real life example of how easily values can plummet.

[MIG]

It’s pretty simple really isn’t it. He’s just looking after himself. Pay me more and give me the option to leave if it comes. He’s not committing or saying he’s leaving. He’s just giving himself the best options as anyone would want in the modern game.

Don’t see an issue giving him close to top wages and a £50-60m release clause. £40m is a joke

[777Kidnappings]

It’s pretty simple really isn’t it. He’s just looking after himself. Pay me more and give me the option to leave if it comes. He’s not committing or saying he’s leaving. He’s just giving himself the best options as anyone would want in the modern game.

Don’t see an issue giving him close to top wages and a £50-60m release clause. £40m is a joke

Do you really not. We'd be asking for 50 or 60m today. So wed be paying him significantly more money and lose the control we had over the next 3 years and any potential extra profit should he kick on further

The release clause has to be significantly more than wed want today

[Trowel]

[MIG]

Do you really not. We'd be asking for 50 or 60m today. So wed be paying him significantly more money and lose the control we had over the next 3 years and any potential extra profit should he kick on further

The release clause has to be significantly more than wed want today

So? Stick a £100m release clause on him that no one is ever going to pay?
Then he won’t sign that contract cause it’s a stupid idea and then we lose him anyway for around 50-60m

[777Kidnappings]

So? Stick a £100m release clause on him that no one is ever going to pay?
Then he won’t sign that contract cause it’s a stupid idea and then we lose him anyway for around 50-60m

We might as well lose him for 50 or 60m when we choose on cheap wages then lose him for 50 or 60m when he chooses on big wages

[MIG]

I’d rather tempt him to stay. That’s the difference.
You don’t think he’s performed well enough for a pay rise?

[AjaxAndy]

I'm torn on this tbh.

We bought him for a low price, and if we sell for say £55m then that's exactly the type of business strategy we should be regularly aiming for.

You then take £25m of that and spend it on George who is younger, potentially has a higher ceiling and adds the pace that we lack.

That leaves £30m left over to buy an RB, LB, or a more reliable striker.

That's not taking in to account how CSR works with regards income Vs out goings over contract lengths, which makes selling and reinvesting even more powerful.

The obvious preference is to retain your best players and add other equally good players to compliment them. However that's not how football works these days, unless you buy and sell well then making any significant progress is at best hard, at worst neigh on impossible.

But also I don't want us to sell him as he's fun to watch.