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Which one of these meffs do you want down?

Burnley
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May 21, 2022, 09:08:26 PM
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The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool


Big win either way tomorrow. One of them will be relegated. Such a shame its not both.
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May 21, 2022, 09:13:18 PM
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Thomas


Burnley and Newcastle can fuck off but I don't mind Leeds and always liked the people of Yorkshire/Leeds
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May 21, 2022, 09:14:44 PM
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The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool


Really? Even though they are trying everything to get a points deduction off us and perhaps relegate us instead of Burnley or themselves? Any respect for their club that I had has now gone out the window. They can GTF.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2022, 09:16:11 PM by The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool »
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May 21, 2022, 09:14:50 PM
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Whichever club stays up will probably quickly forget all about it.
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May 21, 2022, 09:18:38 PM
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The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool


Apparently, according to Sky Sports they are both determined to see “it” through to the end.
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May 21, 2022, 09:19:29 PM
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May 21, 2022, 09:19:41 PM
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Whichever club stays up will probably quickly forget all about it.

Exactly, they are united now but come the end of the game the team that says up, will want to move on and plan for the new season.

Could be wrong but aren't the investigations into Manchester City's FFP standing in their third year now?
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May 21, 2022, 09:37:26 PM
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Breaking News on SkySports.

Burnley and Leeds write letter to Prelimeleague askinf them to require Everton to keep all emails and data related to business activities.

Wow they must be hurting :D


There are laws in place already covering the retention of financial data that apply to all businesses, not just football clubs, so there is absolutely no need for the FA or the Premier League to request that this information is retained. I'm pretty sure that those in charge of financial regulation at the club are already acutely aware of the laws of the land and the penalties for breaching said laws.

Emails are a different kettle of fish altogether, and if there's no emails, then there's nothing to investigate, but there's no law that says that a business must retain all emails. There are rules about email security, which are covered under GDPR, but nowhere in law is there a rule that prevents a business from having a robust hoiseleeping policy. In fact a robust housekeeping policy is actually actively encouraged within Data Protection law. I worked alongside a Data Protection Officer at a large company for a while, who wrote a set of guidelines for employees that strongly recommended that they trawl their own mailboxes on a regular basis and permanently remove ALL NON-ESSENTIAL communications. The policy with regard to attachments was that all essential documents ahould be saved to a secure folder on the corporate network and the email should be deleted to prevent data loss. Non essential data should be removed. In fact, we had a strict policy with regard to mailbox size and were restricted to a mailbox of no greater than 50MB. If you required additional mailbox space, the request was made to the Data Protection Officer, who would review and reject it. There were also strict firewall rules in place preventing any large files entering or leaving the corporate email system, also to prevent data loss and protect the corporate network from cyber attack. If there was a requirement to transfer a large file, it was reviewed by the DPO and either approved or rejected, with a timeslot allocated for a secure file transfer, but never over email. A secure VPN or CSG would be established with a strict timeslot and data transferred and sandboxed in quarantine until it had been checked and was deemed to be safe to enter or leave the network. You would hope that a business the size of Everton FC would have similar robust policies in place.

Just a desperate attempt by both clubs to retain their Premier league status by any means possible. It's just a shame that both of them can't go down tomorrow.
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May 21, 2022, 09:52:09 PM
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There are laws in place already covering the retention of financial data that apply to all businesses, not just football clubs, so there is absolutely no need for the FA or the Premier League to request that this information is retained. I'm pretty sure that those in charge of financial regulation at the club are already acutely aware of the laws of the land and the penalties for breaching said laws.

Emails are a different kettle of fish altogether, and if there's no emails, then there's nothing to investigate, but there's no law that says that a business must retain all emails. There are rules about email security, which are covered under GDPR, but nowhere in law is there a rule that prevents a business from having a robust hoiseleeping policy. In fact a robust housekeeping policy is actually actively encouraged within Data Protection law. I worked alongside a Data Protection Officer at a large company for a while, who wrote a set of guidelines for employees that strongly recommended that they trawl their own mailboxes on a regular basis and permanently remove ALL NON-ESSENTIAL communications. The policy with regard to attachments was that all essential documents ahould be saved to a secure folder on the corporate network and the email should be deleted to prevent data loss. Non essential data should be removed. In fact, we had a strict policy with regard to mailbox size and were restricted to a mailbox of no greater than 50MB. If you required additional mailbox space, the request was made to the Data Protection Officer, who would review and reject it. There were also strict firewall rules in place preventing any large files entering or leaving the corporate email system, also to prevent data loss and protect the corporate network from cyber attack. If there was a requirement to transfer a large file, it was reviewed by the DPO and either approved or rejected, with a timeslot allocated for a secure file transfer, but never over email. A secure VPN or CSG would be established with a strict timeslot and data transferred and sandboxed in quarantine until it had been checked and was deemed to be safe to enter or leave the network. You would hope that a business the size of Everton FC would have similar robust policies in place.

Just a desperate attempt by both clubs to retain their Premier league status by any means possible. It's just a shame that both of them can't go down tomorrow.

Great post ! (Qualification ?)
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May 21, 2022, 09:53:35 PM
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So do we actually need to worry?

Am I right in thinking they arnt applying to the Premier league to sanction them, but stating they might want to consider separate, civil legal action against the club for massive losses they've sustained?

The Premier league have been working along side us and our accounts. If they were going to dock points, it would have happened already.

So what exactly are they hoping for? Suing us for huge losses sustained? Is this what American owners think is the response to everything. Libel cases galore in that country.


It'll take years to sort out right? Even in a worse case scenario nothings going to be sorted before the start of next season?
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May 21, 2022, 10:03:45 PM
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The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool


I think they are hoping were docked enough points before the start of next season so whoever goes down is swapped with us.

We should get Tarkovski for free and buy Raphinha and rub salt in their wounds.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2022, 10:09:15 PM by The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool »
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May 21, 2022, 10:05:54 PM
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Escla

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So do we actually need to worry?

Am I right in thinking they arnt applying to the Premier league to sanction them, but stating they might want to consider separate, civil legal action against the club for massive losses they've sustained?

The Premier league have been working along side us and our accounts. If they were going to dock points, it would have happened already.

So what exactly are they hoping for? Suing us for huge losses sustained? Is this what American owners think is the response to everything. Libel cases galore in that country.


It'll take years to sort out right? Even in a worse case scenario nothings going to be sorted before the start of next season?

Yes I guess it could be a separate civil action, given two American owners to whom litigation comes as second nature ,but yes, a civil action could take years and certainly not result in a points deduction but possibly big sums of money in compensation.

Sounds like their main gripe is that although we were already in financial shit we went ahead and bought Myko and Delli in January and that if we hadn’t done that we wouldn’t have won games in which they featured, well good luck in proving that in a court of law !
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May 21, 2022, 10:09:54 PM
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The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool


Or they pay us defamation.
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May 21, 2022, 10:14:28 PM
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Mayor Farnum


If this had happened ten years ago I'd have laughed it off as we were known for doing things right. Nowadays though; I'm prepared to wait and see.
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Crosby not English.

May 21, 2022, 10:15:49 PM
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Yes I guess it could be a separate civil action, given two American owners to whom litigation comes as second nature ,but yes, a civil action could take years and certainly not result in a points deduction but possibly big sums of money in compensation.

Sounds like their main gripe is that although we were already in financial shit we went ahead and bought Myko and Delli in January and that if we hadn't done that we wouldn't have won games in which they featured, well good luck in proving that in a court of law !
Or we could have kept Digne who is a proven player with stats to back and not bought the other two, one of which had zero impact on our season.


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