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March 10, 2013, 02:13:42 AM
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Imagine what they would be like if we really had something to worry about - relegation threatened years of old.

Not just Blues but in last ten years the attitude of fans has changed - no one is ever happy with anything. Best example is Chelsea - European Champions and a toxic atmosphere in the ground.

Heard a great comment on radio the other day about players getting back to being players, managers being allowed to manage and supporters - supporting.

None of above happened today - players clocked off, DM tried to make a stupid point with subs and fans turned on team - sad times!

I recall the bad days, maybe i was younger but i dont remember this sort of abuse.. Yes people get angry.. but if you dont like what you see.. dont give the club your money...

Yes the attitude has changed of fans of football (as well as other sports/fans of entertainers)

I think as they feel they are paying the wages.. they're allowed to be vile..

Most people are not happy due to their own personal lives, they take it out on 'other' things.. None of us have a direct impact on how Everton perform..

Chelsea I guess its their own fault, throwing more and more money at something, can only bring limited success..

DM has been weird all season...I just read his interview on sky text.. he said..'We are not the sort too point fingers at each other'

Not sure if he was tongue-in-cheek then, due to it being about Neville.
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March 10, 2013, 02:29:26 AM
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There's no valid reason for not giving a shit.

I don't care if he was playing in central defence, for 75,000 a week I'd expect commitment at the very least. I can understand a player having a bad game, especially playing out of position, but to plain not be arsed is unforgivable and inexcusable.

Have you had a shit day? been at work, and not given a fuck? thats all it is.. a job for him..He really didnt look up for it from the start, to me that falls on Moyes, and his motivation.. i stand by what i said.. if i was Fellaini, and i knew how muc hthe fans wanted 4th, was told we would get players in.. then got NO ONE, and felt i had been lied too.. how committed would i be.. knowing the board/manager arent't even committed..

I am sure, under another manager next season, we will see a new Fellaini, once he has been reinvigorated
 

Perfect quote to end the thread with :p


So many hours on, I still can't believe that actually happened.
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March 10, 2013, 02:38:10 AM
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maybe if we didn't go to a match one saturday things would change, but the clubs know how much it means to us, pity we don't mean anything to them, just our wallets.


unfortunately. thats the way (this) society works..

but i agree with the starting part.. money is the only vote that counts.
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March 10, 2013, 02:43:51 AM
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Moyes is to blame but you're using your dislike for him to try to defend a player that didn't give a shit today. You can blame Moyes but the players need to take responsibility as well.

We were at home, in a FA Cup quarter final against a team fighting relegation and one game from Wembley. What other motivation do they need to at least put in a decent effort? It's sad that the expectations of fans has fallen so far that people try to validate a not arsed performance from one of our supposed best players.

I dont dislike Moyes, I've stated before that I would love him to prove me wrong, reverting back to his 2006? style of attacking the other team..
he even use to make attacking subs, when we where defending!! (bring on a striker for a midfielder)

Thats the Moyes i miss...I dont hold him with all the blame, the players are responsible, the issue i was saying about Felli being lied to, maybe a mental issue with him...

Im not validating his dont give a fuck attitude, If that was his attitude pre game, then Moyes should not have played him, He was de motivated at 0-3 down, with all the home fans booing 'his' team..

surly the fans who attended could helped in motivating our team?

It was obvious in the opening 1/4 that we where very reserved/afraid of making a mistake/tentative...
The crowd could have provided the motivation.. but once 0-3. the crowd where Horrible..
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March 10, 2013, 02:59:31 AM
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So now it's the crowds fault?I'm not saying that.. I've stated clearly its a contribution of things, I was just trying to explain from a view point Felli might have,.(i only did that due to 'Evertonians' saying they never want to see him play again, totally disregarding what he has achieved for Everton this year, What do you expect the fans to be like,i expected them to be angry watching their team playing shite against a bottom of the league team?angry. It's not their job to motivate massively paid players. Our fans have been hard on players at times this year, but it works both ways, the fans can buzz off the players and vice versa. yes as i said., its many contributing factors that motivate players, He wasnt motivated when 0-3 accept it, thats it..

I remember at one point in the second half the fans really getting up for it, it didn't seem to lift the players though.I think the players where feeling sorry for themselves, they where probably day dreaming about next season and no Moyes.. The only Attacking player that wasnt day dreaming was Mirralas and that showed.

As I've said, I can forgive players having a bad day, I can't forgive or condone players not giving a shit.
will you forgive him in the next match? how about if he scores or plays well against Shitey?
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March 10, 2013, 03:28:16 AM
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The fans were angry, and rightly so.

Fellaini wasn't motivated from the start, never mind 0-3, and no, I won't accept it. I dont either, but what can I do about it?
 
Players day dreaming about next season? Don't make laugh. What else would you do when 0-3 at home? still 60 mins left, but yet no one was doing ANYTHING

Fellaini probably will have a blinder against City. He's getting like that, only lifts himself for the bag teams.He's scored important goals for us against shitty teams aswell and played well against them.. Either way, I still won't change my opinion about him not giving a shit today. Will you cheer him tho? or hold todays not give a fuck attitude against him?

You can debate it all day, I'll never accept his attitude today. I wasnt trying to debate, i was just trying to show from a viewpoint that might be his.. I really cant accept his attitude either.. but i know in the future i will still celebrate when he scores, still be egging him on to do well..




If he plays. Something tells me he'll be missing through "injury" Haha

Some of the fans sat by me were going ape when he got taken off, asking why Moyes was taking off one of our best players and, one of our scoring prospects. He had no chance today- he made about 3 runs from midfield, only to get dispossessed too easily, other times he just stood there looking lost and like the player we first got from Liege Probably was the worst I've seen him play since his first season with us.. He gave the ball away so many times,(much more than Neville) he didnt look where he was running, or who he was passing too, seemed like he was getting frustrated with himself the longer it went on...

Pienaar and Ossie the same- the arse had just fallen outta the whole midfiled.We have a midfield?? :p
Never wanna go through anything like that again. Ever.

This season has been the worst season in terms of hopes being built up, and then being CRUSHED

Every other season, we start shit, then do well.. but this season starting well.. blinded me.. I genuinely thought the team would build on that start, with transfers and improving with confidence each match.. but i got fooled ;/



LOL please no no with the arry chants.. & Velios really?? how can we expect for him? 750,000 to reading? Not good enough when he has hardly played.. and when he has (the last few seasons) he has done pretty well.
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March 10, 2013, 03:48:47 AM
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I wouldnt want an English manager.. but if we where to have one.. 

Irvine? lolz.. we use to be attacking when he was assistant!
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March 10, 2013, 04:02:43 AM
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My bad, I meant British Manager.. i wouldnt want Everton to have a British manager

Reid and Irvine could be good,, sounds sexy to me..

the " special one" has always said he  liked  coming to everton , any thoughts ? :snigger:


really that is my DREAM

Jose has been turning me on with his comments towards us, he has made 2? comments where he has put us over other teams..

Would love for him to come here, Spend hardly any cash and give us something to cheer about!

I wouldnt even mind if Bill stayed and got the glory.. Least we;d have a name manager, who is tactically one of the best, the players he could attract,.....
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March 10, 2013, 04:18:22 AM
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Mourinho comments to me read more as a dig at lfc than saying he wants to come here

please dont destroy my dream
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March 10, 2013, 03:57:28 PM
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As an Everton fan, the very least that I expect from any player who wears the famous royal blue is 100% commitment.
If you went into work on Monday morning & told your boss that you were going to do the square root of fuck all because he's asked you to work with somebody that is past his best, would you expect to be able to just amble around sulking all day & just get away with it. In fact, would you expect to still have a job on Tuesday morning.
When you pay good money to watch your team play, the minimum expectation is that the players will fight for the shirt. A player who is a little low on form/confidence or is simply having a bit of an off day I can live with. Petulant sulking arseholes who look like they don't want to be there I can't. Fellaini was piss poor today & if he was just having an off day, I could deal with that. However, the lazy bastard couldn't even be arsed to show a bit of willing & fight, then had the sheer audacity to disrespect his fellow players, his manager, and most of all the thirty-odd thousand paying customers with his shitty attitude when leaving the field of play and not even taking his seat in the dug-out to watch his teammates complete the 90 minutes. For me, no player is bigger than Everton Football Club and if he doesn't want to be here, he can fuck right off!
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I understand this

To me, Moyes is not bigger than the Club,

If the fans walk out (GIVE UP) after 30 mins, our players cant give up in the second half?


When you pay to watch, you pay to watch. that gives you no RIGHTS, same as if you pay to watch a movie, or a Beiber concert.

Just cos you have paid, doesnt mean Anything. it might to you, but to the club(or the people making the cash)your just a customer/consumer

people who think they are owed something from splashing cash, seriously need to take a look at their priorities.
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