Sigurdsson

[brap2]

But he doesn't, and he never has in his entire career and he's now 29.

[Cozzie]

I don't to just banish sig all together. But I do feel we need to begin the phasing out of the man.

If its true about Reinier coming in Jan I think I would like to see Sig start less and less.

I do feel he stifles us a bit in terms of creative play but the lad does get goals, can't argue there.

[Dr. Sponge]

Hopefully if Kean turns out to be a goal threat we can afford for Sigurdsson to get involved in the play a bit more.

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[Hesmenos]

I always thought Sig was at his most dangerous when he picked up the ball about 10 yards further back where he has more space. That goal against Leicester a prime example but also some great through balls into the area for Walcott to run onto.
I don't see the point of sticking him so close to the center backs when he can't out-muscle them and he's not going to win any headers.

[brap2]

He comes alive when Walcott is in the side a little bit I think. Needs runs to play balls into.

[GLewis]

I think all arguments about Siggy are valid to a degree. He does need to be involved more but he’s created numerous quality chances that DCL and Walcott have spooned wide of the target. Highly creative, goal scoring attacking midfielders/ number 10s, are few and far between. They tend to be one or the other.

It’s been probably been mentioned in the formation thread, but I think Marco would like to play a 433, like Klopp. Attacking fullbacks, 3 solid box-to-box midfielders and 2 inverted goal-scoring wingers playing off a striker. He plays Sig because he’s here and he’d be hard to shift, and he might as well use him as best he can.

Rather than try to reinvent the wheel and ditch Sig completely, I think he should just be played 10 yards deeper. Digne aside, he’s the most intelligent player we have, he just doesn’t have the pace to operate that high up the pitch. I think Iwobi and Bernard would lose the ball even more than Sig does, if they played as close to the opposition CBs and he’s told to.


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Agree with most of this apart from I think the 10 yard deeper thing isn’t really an option/ solution.

If he really wanted a significant increase in his involvement he’d be looking for it naturally.

As @brap2 says, at 29 he’s not going to start now. And let’s face it, it has been a successful model for him.

If he did drop deeper I’m sure an opposition defender would follow and it’s then when it shows how much you really want the ball.

 He is what he is, we have to find ways/ players to provide what he doesn’t in the type of fixtures where he struggles to impact the general play. 

[Jimmywhack]

Saw an average position thingy for saturdays game and sigurdsson was our furthest man forward, comfortably as well

[kramer0]

Saw an average position thingy for saturdays game and sigurdsson was our furthest man forward, comfortably as well

Says everything. Calvert-Lewin is putting in more work to get the ball into the final third than our #10.

[Lxxx]

Kind of backs up my suspicions with DCL. He spends a lot of time doing too much grunt work because the players around him aren't much of a threat.

Bernard is never going to trouble defenders going the other way, Richarlison for all his talent has many quiet spells and Sig is anonymous for long periods while he drifts within a 30 yard radius.

Really looking forward to seeing Iwobi and Kean, in whatever position they come in at, to see if it changes the team dynamic. 

[GrantyBoy78]

Says everything. Calvert-Lewin is putting in more work to get the ball into the final third than our #10.

...or DCL is treading on the toes of our #10 when he should be on the shoulders on the CBs, looking to stretch them and make runs for our #10.


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[kramer0]

...or DCL is treading on the toes of our #10 when he should be on the shoulders on the CBs, looking to stretch them and make runs for our #10.


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The one who doesn't have the ball ever?

[stirlingblue]

...or DCL is treading on the toes of our #10 when he should be on the shoulders on the CBs, looking to stretch them and make runs for our #10.


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Nah, Sig sits right up against the centre backs so beyond that is offside

[Omar]

Sig was one fourth of our goals last season, perspective people.

[blueski]

I think right now its impossible to do anything about Sigurdsson and the way he plays until we start getting consistent goal production from someone else. Maybe that's Kean maybe DCL maybe someone else but I think for the time being until that happens Sig is going to play virtually every possible minute.

[Lxxx]

...or DCL is treading on the toes of our #10 when he should be on the shoulders on the CBs, looking to stretch them and make runs for our #10.


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Maybe we'll see if Kean plays in place of DCL then.