Bernard

[Mayor Farnum]

I don't think he's ever embraced living on Merseyside. All those tattoos yet he's never got one of a swallow between his thumb and index finger.

[Waltzer]

Well Swansea got the fee not him. He earns slightly less than Bernard and has contributed much more.

Genuinely don't get why you're so hooked up on his wages. Let's say he's on about 40k more than the squad average, that's only about 8 million over 4 years, yes it's 8 million but considering he was free it's still a deal that made a whole lot of sense. I guarantee he won't even be near the top with regards to money lost. His wages, come June, will be about 18 million, if we sell him near 8-10 million our outlay isn't bad for a well regarded Brazilian, it didn't work out well, so we move on.

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[TheRam]

I like him. Think he’s a great player but sometimes it doesn’t work out and I’m not surprised this has gone the way it has.

Happy we made the signing and took the risk though.

Have similar feelings with kean.

[KoemansNumberTens]

Genuinely don't get why you're so hooked up on his wages. Let's say he's on about 40k more than the squad average, that's only about 8 million over 4 years, yes it's 8 million but considering he was free it's still a deal that made a whole lot of sense. I guarantee he won't even be near the top with regards to money lost. His wages, come June, will be about 18 million, if we sell him near 8-10 million our outlay isn't bad for a well regarded Brazilian, it didn't work out well, so we move on.

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He’s been useless. Below average player on above average money (50% more) is a problem

[KoemansNumberTens]

I like him. Think he’s a great player but sometimes it doesn’t work out and I’m not surprised this has gone the way it has.

Happy we made the signing and took the risk though.

Have similar feelings with kean.

Wasn’t it you who questioned why I said he’d had an easy ride? Then you describe him as a great player

[TheRam]

Wasn’t it you who questioned why I said he’d had an easy ride? Then you describe him as a great player

Great footballer, just hasn’t worked out, never was really.

You disagree, that’s fine. Loads of people agree with you. You’re not as enlightened as you think.

[Toddacelli]

Yep, I think I'm one of those guilty of giving an easy ride. Bags of technical ability, big-money player and Brazilian to boot. Has all the the ingredients to be fantastic for us, but I think my days of hoping it will come good are finally done. I've been kidding myself about Bernard for too long now tbf.

I think when someone has a potential like that that, you just keep hoping one day something will click and boom! - we're away!

Don't think it's ever going to happen with Bernard now though.

[Bluenose 91]

He was defo worth a go on a free and everyone was happy with it at the time.

Got to be trying to move him on now though while we can still get a decent-ish fee for him.

[Dr. Sponge]

He's too lightweight for this league, its easy for teams to play against him.

[GrantyBoy78]

He was defo worth a go on a free and everyone was happy with it at the time.

Got to be trying to move him on now though while we can still get a decent-ish fee for him.

He gets 50% of the fee, anyway, so it’s more a case of freeing up his wages. He’ll be fine in a league that’s not full of groks.


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[ajax_andy]

When we first signed him he looked really good... Until he got into the box and then he'd fall over his own feet half the time.

Since then he's completely regressed to not being involved at all, in any match, apart from maybe once a season when he looks absolutely world class.

Need to move him on as soon as is possible as it's just another nothing player taking up wages.

[Bluedylan]

Think he'd be a nice 'icing on the cake' player, if the whole side was settled, playing in patterns and dominating games. You could probably drop him into City's squad, and he'd be an effective little squad player for them who'd produce moments in games to unlock people.

But since we're very much still in the process of making our cake, to stretch the weak metaphor, I'm really not sure he's what we need at this point or in the near future.

[Mayor Farnum]

Just not enough match winning or potential match winning moments from him.
I don't agree with the too lightweight argument as football is so tipped in favour of attacking players these days that you just can't foul them out of the game anymore.

[Toddacelli]

Think he'd be a nice 'icing on the cake' player, if the whole side was settled, playing in patterns and dominating games. You could probably drop him into City's squad, and he'd be an effective little squad player for them who'd produce moments in games to unlock people.

But since we're very much still in the process of making our cake, to stretch the weak metaphor, I'm really not sure he's what we need at this point or in the near future.

You could have just said - "he's a bit of a pudding"