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January 19, 2020, 09:51:06 PM
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He was rotten yesterday. We've way too many players who we can't rely on for a basic level of competence week in and week out.


January 19, 2020, 10:26:52 PM
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Bernard is better when we have proper footballers playing with him. Can't be relied on on a regular basis as you say. But of a luxury player.

I remember everyone was so excited when he signed for us, but he's arguably our worst player in terms of investment. He's our top earner, isn't he?
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January 19, 2020, 10:49:49 PM
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Bernard is better when we have proper footballers playing with him. Can't be relied on on a regular basis as you say. But of a luxury player.

I remember everyone was so excited when he signed for us, but he's arguably our worst player in terms of investment. He's our top earner, isn't he?

He is our highest earner, but it'll take 4 years of his wages alone to even get close to the investment we shelled out for Iwobi and about 8 years for Sig as an example. This doesn't include their wages, just transfer fee.
So nowhere near our worst investment imo

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January 19, 2020, 10:50:35 PM
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Bernard is better when we have proper footballers playing with him. Can't be relied on on a regular basis as you say. But of a luxury player.

I remember everyone was so excited when he signed for us, but he's arguably our worst player in terms of investment. He's our top earner, isn't he?
Would be able to sell him tomorrow for 25million I'm sure.

Lack of consistency is a problem, doesn't help that he filters in and out of the team ( whether through injury or otherwise).

Perhaps with regular game time week in week out he'd get some consistency.

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January 19, 2020, 11:09:46 PM
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Has a buy out clause of £47.5M does he not?

Not sure if I heard that right though.

January 19, 2020, 11:26:40 PM
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Has a buy out clause of £47.5M does he not?

Not sure if I heard that right though.

I'd sell if we got offered that for him.
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January 19, 2020, 11:32:33 PM
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I'd sell if we got offered that for him.
Well we wouldn't have a choice if we got offered that, that's the thing about buy out clauses....

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January 19, 2020, 11:33:11 PM
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Info on his wages. No info on a buyout clause. I've definitely seen it somewhere though! :)

https://www.spotrac.com/epl/everton-f.c/bernard-anicio-caldeira
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January 19, 2020, 11:56:22 PM
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He is our highest earner, but it'll take 4 years of his wages alone to even get close to the investment we shelled out for Iwobi and about 8 years for Sig as an example. This doesn't include their wages, just transfer fee.
So nowhere near our worst investment imo

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That's true, had forgotten we got him on a free.
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January 19, 2020, 11:58:06 PM
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Well we wouldn't have a choice if we got offered that, that's the thing about buy out clauses....

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If he agrees to the move as well of course. It doesn't automatically mean a move will happen. A new club might pay it, but then offer him less wages than what he's on now.

But my comment was based irrespective of whether he has a clause or not. That's the first time I've heard of such a clause of any of our current players.
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January 20, 2020, 12:06:22 AM
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He is our highest earner, but it'll take 4 years of his wages alone to even get close to the investment we shelled out for Iwobi and about 8 years for Sig as an example. This doesn't include their wages, just transfer fee.
So nowhere near our worst investment imo

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Please don't put Iwobi in this conversation.

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January 20, 2020, 12:11:40 AM
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sam of the south


Please don't put Iwobi in this conversation.


He has to.

It’s not his fault.
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January 20, 2020, 12:21:22 AM
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Waltzer


Please don't put Iwobi in this conversation.

Sigurdsson
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Bolasie
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Irrelevant really, to get someone of Bernard's quality for free is one of our best bits of business, not worst. It's pretty much better than any other business we've done in recent years, including Iwobi

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January 20, 2020, 12:38:27 AM
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