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Title: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 22, 2013, 09:33:20 AM
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Fulham FC v Everton FC
Craven Cottage (Capacity: 25, 700)
Tuesday 24th September 20:00
Capital One Cup 3rd Round


Fulham's last 5 matches:

Fulham 1-3 Arsenal (Bent)
Burton 2-2 Fulham (4-5 pens) - League Cup (Taraabt, Rodallega)
Newcastle 1-0 Fulham
Fulham 1-1 West Brom (Sidwell)
Chelsea 2-0 Fulham

Everton's last 5 matches:

Everton 0-0 West Brom
Everton 2-1 Stevenage - League Cup (Deulofeu, Fellaini)
Cardiff 0-0 Everton
Everton 1-0 Chelsea (Naismith)
West Ham 2-3 Everton (Baines x2, Lukaku)



Fulham

Possible Starting XI:

-----------------------------Stockdale--------------------------------
-----Riether----Hangeland-----------Amorebieta---Richardson----
-----------------------Parker--------Sidwell--------------------------
---------------Duff-----------Kasami--------Kacaniklic--------------
--------------------------------Bent-----------------------------------

There are a few injuries concerns in the Fulham squad at this time. Dimitar Berbatov missed out on the defeat to Chelsea on Saturday Evening but could be available on Tuesday Night. Aaron Hughes and Bryan Ruiz will both miss out through injury whilst summer signing goalkeeper Maarten Stekelenburg is also likely to need a further week to recover from an injury he picked up on the opening day of the season.

Fulham are currently 18th in the Premier League and could be as low as 19th should Crystal Palace gain a point or more in their game against Swansea on Sunday. Since they picked up 3 points at the stadium of light on the opening day they've picked up just 1 point out of a possible 12. Their last home game against West Brom ended in a 1-1 draw as Fulham conceded an injury time equaliser. No team has scored less goals than Fulham in the Premier League.

They struggled in the previous round as they fielded a less than full strength team away to  League Two outfit Burton Albion. The Premier League side struggled to dominate the game and conceded an 85th minute equaliser to take the game to extra time. Fulham went behind in the 102nd minute before Rodallega seized an equaliser 3 minutes from the end to salvage a penalty shoot out which they won without missing a penalty 5-4.




Everton

Possible Starting XI:

--------------------------------Joel-----------------------------------
-----Coleman----Jagielka-----------Stones--------Baines----------
---------------------McCarthy-------Barry---------------------------
------------Deulofeu---------Barkley--------Oviedo-----------------
--------------------------------Lukaku--------------------------------

It's difficult to predict what team Martinez will send out against Fulham. He made 8 changes in the last round but that was at home to League One Stevenage. Joel is likely to continue in goal whilst John Stones could be elected in a solid back 4. Heitinga was utilised in the last round though Gareth Barry and James McCarthy weren't options then. Deulofeu played the full game and could feature again. Naismith and Jelavic may play some part but Lukaku could start to gain some more playing time as the next Premier League game isn't until Monday. Darron Gibson, Antolin Alcaraz, Arouna Kone, Steven Pienaar and Leon Osman are unlikely to play any part through injury.

The last meeting between the two ended in a 1-0 victory to Everton as Steven Pienaar scored in the penultimate home game of last season.

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The last game between the two sides at Craven Cottage ended 2-2 with Fellaini giving Everton a 2-1 lead only for Fulham to equalise in injury time.

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The last cup game where these clubs met was decided by a Fellaini header after Denis Stracqualursi opened his account for the blues in the 11-12 season. Everton 2-1 Fulham

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Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Blake on September 22, 2013, 02:35:57 PM
Fulham made a few change last round, but I would say it was still a strong side from their point of view.

I wouldn't want to guess our XI & bench. Lots of options currently. Think it'll be too early for Alcaraz or Pienaar but the following will all have individual cases to be involved (not that I think they will all start)

Robles

Hibbert  Stones  Heitinga  Oviedo

Gibson  McCarthy

??????  ??????  Deulofeu

Kone

I'd guess Gibson & Kone will have to put up with a place on the bench, if deemed fit enough. McCarthy will get his first start. I'd expect Robles & Deulofeu to start. Stones, Heitinga & Hibbert will all expect to be involved as some point - not sure they'll all start.

Lukaku my miss out due to his bump on the head (just a guess?)

Not sure we'll see many goals, especially if we make a few changes. 1 nil to us (Deulofeo).
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Silas on September 22, 2013, 03:23:06 PM
If Berbatov and Ruiz are out we should batter these. I think Heitinga, Kone, Robles and Deulofeu might come in
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Trublue on September 22, 2013, 03:44:51 PM
I think Lukaku may sit Tuesday out after banging his head.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Blake on September 22, 2013, 06:59:53 PM
If Berbatov and Ruiz are out we should batter these. I think Heitinga, Kone, Robles and Deulofeu might come in

Both expected back for them apparently
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blargins on September 22, 2013, 07:03:47 PM
I'd forgotten all about Fellaini.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 22, 2013, 07:08:51 PM
that Pienaar goal was some of the best football we played last season, flowing and wonderful to watch
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Juanito on September 22, 2013, 07:15:45 PM
                                                                 Joel
                      Hibbert                 Stones                  Hietinga               Oviedo

                                                  McCarthy            Gibson

                     Deulofeu                         Naismith                  Kone

                                                        Lukaku
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: sharpattack on September 22, 2013, 07:18:03 PM
                                                                 Joel
                      Hibbert                 Stones                  Hietinga               Oviedo

                                                  McCarthy            Gibson

                     Deulofeu                         Naismith                  Kone

                                                        Lukaku
Hibbert PMSL
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blargins on September 22, 2013, 07:41:47 PM
                                                                 Joel
                      Hibbert                 Stones                  Hietinga               Oviedo

                                                  McCarthy            Gibson

                     Deulofeu                         Naismith                  Kone

                                                        Lukaku

We'd be making an early exit with that team.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: DannyR on September 22, 2013, 07:45:09 PM
I'm going to this one,  shall be interesting to see who we play

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Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 22, 2013, 08:06:17 PM
something ive never understood about Fulham, where is the away end? and why is that stand on the right always seemingly mixed? you can see some celebratng and others not. i dont get it...
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Eddie on September 22, 2013, 08:11:00 PM
something ive never understood about Fulham, where is the away end? and why is that stand on the right always seemingly mixed? you can see some celebratng and others not. i dont get it...

The away end is the stand behind the goal and to the left of the goal...the other half of the stand is a neutral end with no segregation between the two.

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Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 22, 2013, 08:32:18 PM
ah that explains a lot thanks :) no wonder it seems mixed, as it is ha.

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Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on September 22, 2013, 09:47:52 PM
I'm going to this one,  shall be interesting to see who we play

I could be wrong but I think its Fulham.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 23, 2013, 12:03:05 AM
Doesn't look like BeIn is televising this one in the US, either live or tape delay.  Boo.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on September 23, 2013, 02:03:57 AM
Doesn't look like BeIn is televising this one in the US, either live or tape delay.  Boo.

Check if FSC is?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Gumpinio on September 23, 2013, 06:00:59 AM
According to the BBC website we kick off at a differant time to everyone else, is it on the tele in England?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 23, 2013, 06:02:01 AM
Nope, Swindon v Chelsea is on tv
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Thornton_19 on September 23, 2013, 06:08:50 AM
I can see Barkley and Baines being rested in this one. However i expect it to be a very strong team.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: New Free Transfer Signing on September 23, 2013, 07:10:54 AM
There MAY be a stream, but it looks like there won't be many, as according to Wiziwig only one station had announced it'll be broadcasting the game.

http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=221527&part=sports (http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=221527&part=sports)

Basically, there will be about one stream, and if its good then fine, if not it'll be a radio job
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Verm on September 23, 2013, 07:54:42 AM
Nope, Swindon v Chelsea is on tv

The amount of all PL ties there is and that borefest is on TV...
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: JJB on September 23, 2013, 02:28:30 PM
With us not playing Newcastle until the Monday night we should be putting out a full side

I can't see Fulham resting players for this, especially the likes of Berbatov, Bent & Parker

Afterall, this is their only chance of silverware this season
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: GLewis on September 23, 2013, 03:10:19 PM
I can see Barkley and Baines being rested in this one. However i expect it to be a very strong team.

Using his comments about ensuring that all players have an appropriate number of minutes playing time and the team he picked for Stevenage it's hard not to assume that there'll be a fair few changes.

The team should look strong as we've got 23 (when all fit) first team players this season but I doubt it'll be the team that finished on Sat with 1 or 2 changes.

Maybe not 8 changes like in the first round but I'd be surprised if it's less than 4-5.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: goodison4 on September 23, 2013, 04:28:08 PM
roberto - please please please DONT make too many changes in the team like last time agnt Stevenage
we pay good money to see our team - i dont want to see the reserves - thanks
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blargins on September 23, 2013, 06:11:54 PM
Doesn't look like BeIn is televising this one in the US, either live or tape delay.  Boo.

You get a tool for that ;)
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blargins on September 23, 2013, 06:14:26 PM
Using his comments about ensuring that all players have an appropriate number of minutes playing time and the team he picked for Stevenage it's hard not to assume that there'll be a fair few changes.

The team should look strong as we've got 23 (when all fit) first team players this season but I doubt it'll be the team that finished on Sat with 1 or 2 changes.

Maybe not 8 changes like in the first round but I'd be surprised if it's less than 4-5.

I'd expect Deulofeu to get a start, and McCarthy to come in too, but apart from that, it should be as strong a team as poss. I think Roberto expected us to see of Stevanage a lot sooner than we did. I did too to be fair. We made hard work of that.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Verm on September 23, 2013, 06:22:26 PM
Would expect to see Deulofeu, Joel, Gibson and Lukaku from the start but besides that hopefully not too many changes.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Eddie on September 23, 2013, 06:50:05 PM
@Everton: Everton have sold over 3,000 away tickets for tomorrow’s cup tie at Fulham - and over 500 more tickets are still available for purchase.#EFC

Over 4 hours coach journey, midweek, in a lesser competition against a poor excuse of a football club...great support.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: GLewis on September 23, 2013, 06:50:37 PM
To be fair more players have had playing time since the Stevenage game so there may not be as much of a need for changes.

I am purely basing this on those comments but I'd expect Stones, Heitinga etc to play, basically anyone who's around the match day squads but not featuring.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on September 23, 2013, 07:26:56 PM
Martinez is here to win things and given the fact we're playing prem opposition he'll field his strongest 11. Hopefully.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 23, 2013, 07:40:36 PM
Swerve putting the best team out, thats what cost us last season when Moyes didnt use his squad properly
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 23, 2013, 08:22:34 PM
Swerve putting the best team out, thats what cost us last season when Moyes didnt use his squad properly

Need a bit of rotation, yes. I would rest Barkley, and probably Baines. Coleman on the bench, since we've got several players who can perform at right back. Gibson and Kone should play a role if fit, even if only as a sub. Lukaku up front from the start would be nice, depending on his head; if he did get concussed, then rest him. Deulofeu I would suspect should get a start and close to a full 90 minutes.

Will be interesting to see the team selection for this.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on September 23, 2013, 08:37:11 PM
tough to predict the team.  I'll go with

                    Joel

Coleman Heitinga Distin Oviedo

            Gibson McCarthy

      Delofeu Barkley Naismith

                  Kone

Would personally go a bit stronger though.  Fulham away is always tough for us
         
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 23, 2013, 08:38:02 PM
Can't see Gibson being fit.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on September 23, 2013, 08:42:47 PM
Can't see Gibson being fit.

from martinez press conference today:

“I consider Darron Gibson fully fit. He has been working extremely well and he has joined the group, so that’s a great positive for us.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Gray90 on September 23, 2013, 08:53:46 PM
I'd go with:
         
                      Joel

Coleman Stones Jagielka Baines

            Gibson McCarthy

      Delofeu Barkley Mirallas

                    Lukaku

This game would be good experience for Stones who impressed me against Stevenage. It's also a good chance for Lukaku and McCarthy to blood into the squad.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 23, 2013, 09:16:49 PM
from martinez press conference today:

“I consider Darron Gibson fully fit. He has been working extremely well and he has joined the group, so that’s a great positive for us.

Surprised he wasn't on the bench for West Ham if that's the case. but good news none the less.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 23, 2013, 09:44:47 PM
I could be wrong but I think its Fulham.

Not bad that. I missed it first time round.

Have a like.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: hill135 on September 23, 2013, 10:19:51 PM
Martinez has said Gibson and Lukaku fit for tomorrow. Pienaar, Alcaraz definitely out and Kone likely to be out
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueski on September 23, 2013, 10:47:14 PM
will be nice to see oviedo feature again, needs games, have to think lukaku will start & will be nice to get deloufeu some minutes if possible. looking forward to this & lets hope we can avoid the banana peel
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 24, 2013, 12:20:07 AM
Martinez has said Gibson and Lukaku fit for tomorrow. Pienaar, Alcaraz definitely out and Kone likely to be out

If that's the case then I bet they both start. Robles, Deulofeu, and Heitinga should start. Maybe Oviedo for Baines, and somebody giving Barkley a rest. Wouldn't be surprised to see a change at RB as well, but that may be too many changes. Depends really on Fulham's injury list: If Berbatov and Ruiz are out, then their front line is a bit thin with only Bent and Rodallega.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: tonysoprano on September 24, 2013, 12:48:35 AM
with us not playing till next monday night,why not field strong team?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on September 24, 2013, 12:52:03 AM
off topic slightly, but that Steven Pienaar goal in the OP was fucking liquid football.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: velimski on September 24, 2013, 01:43:13 AM
anyone know if you can buy tickets on the gate for this one? The official site isn't very helpful :

Supporters should be aware that tickets will not be available to post from 3.30pm on Friday 20 September. A further announcement in relation to purchasing tickets on the day of the game, subject to availability, will be made in due course.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Eddie on September 24, 2013, 01:46:37 AM
anyone know if you can buy tickets on the gate for this one? The official site isn't very helpful :

Supporters should be aware that tickets will not be available to post from 3.30pm on Friday 20 September. A further announcement in relation to purchasing tickets on the day of the game, subject to availability, will be made in due course.

You'll get a seat next to the away fans in the 'neutral end'. It's going to be empty bar the everton fans.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: velimski on September 24, 2013, 01:48:28 AM
You'll get a seat next to the away fans in the 'neutral end'. It's going to be empty bar the everton fans.

I know it will be fairly empty, but just wanted to check the rules on buying a ticket on the day at the ground.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Eddie on September 24, 2013, 02:36:37 AM
I know it will be fairly empty, but just wanted to check the rules on buying a ticket on the day at the ground.

@Everton: Any remaining tickets for the Fulham tie will then be available on the eve of the game, with cash turnstiles in operation at Craven Cottage.

Posted earlier today pal.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: velimski on September 24, 2013, 03:23:19 AM
@Everton: Any remaining tickets for the Fulham tie will then be available on the eve of the game, with cash turnstiles in operation at Craven Cottage.

Posted earlier today pal.

thanks mate
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 24, 2013, 03:37:42 AM
Unusually for the League Cup there will be some streams for the Fulham game, even though its not on Sky !

I hear the game is being shown on Al-Jazeera and in the USA & Norway. :)

Streams: http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=221527&part=sports (http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=221527&part=sports)
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Matt Hinkley on September 24, 2013, 03:42:14 AM
Aye aye. Long time lurker, first time poster, exiled in Bristol for my sins...

Long shot, but I know there's a few Blues from down this way post on here. Anyone driving over tomorrow from Bristol with a space in their motor?

Ta.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: DannyR on September 24, 2013, 03:50:19 AM
Aye aye. Long time lurker, first time poster, exiled in Bristol for my sins...

Long shot, but I know there's a few Blues from down this way post on here. Anyone driving over tomorrow from Bristol with a space in their motor?

Ta.
I'm going over on the train fella,  im down in Bristol with MBM. I don't know mbm but know he is in Bristol

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Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Matt Hinkley on September 24, 2013, 04:00:52 AM
Cheers Danny, yeh, it might have to be the train. Just looking to save a few pennies* and swerve the mad scramble back to Paddington when it goes to pens...
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: DannyR on September 24, 2013, 04:05:21 AM
Cheers Danny, yeh, it might have to be the train. Just looking to save a few pennies* and swerve the mad scramble back to Paddington when it goes to pens...
I'm on Megabus back, it'll be dead and cost me a fiver

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Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Matt Hinkley on September 24, 2013, 04:34:37 AM
Alright Danny, tried to reply to you but it crashed. I'm in town, just by the harbour. Should be on the 16.30 from Temple Meads if I don't get a lift.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 24, 2013, 03:27:28 PM
Think I'll go along to this, anybody know how much the neutral stand is on the gates?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: DannyR on September 24, 2013, 06:23:58 PM
Think I'll go along to this, anybody know how much the neutral stand is on the gates?

Should be a few avaible, there's 500 on the gate in the away end too
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 24, 2013, 06:31:40 PM
Should be a few avaible, there's 500 on the gate in the away end too

Cheers, do you know the ticket price?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: DannyR on September 24, 2013, 06:43:00 PM
Cheers, do you know the ticket price?
£20 i think, mine was a tenner u21.

Getting an early dart
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: DanDan on September 24, 2013, 06:54:57 PM
How comes the Predictions on the front page of the site havent been updated to predict on this game?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 24, 2013, 07:07:44 PM
How comes the Predictions on the front page of the site havent been updated to predict on this game?

League games only I think.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: DanDan on September 24, 2013, 07:41:06 PM
League games only I think.

Had Stevenage game on there
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Jimbo and the Jetset on September 24, 2013, 11:49:37 PM
£20 i think, mine was a tenner u21.
£11 then? Barum-tish!! :)
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Jimbo and the Jetset on September 24, 2013, 11:51:29 PM
Oh Streams ahoy btw...

http://www.footballstreaming.info/streams/todays-links/ (http://www.footballstreaming.info/streams/todays-links/)

http://www.viplivesports.eu/sports/football.html (http://www.viplivesports.eu/sports/football.html)
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 24, 2013, 11:54:47 PM
How you're on -7 with that sig fuck knows
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 25, 2013, 12:52:08 AM
How you're on -7 with that sig fuck knows

Pretty sure if she turned round and wipped her strides off then he'd be in treble figures......
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Jimbo and the Jetset on September 25, 2013, 12:56:45 AM
How you're on -7 with that sig fuck knows
I got mercilessly karma rinsed for slating Mr Osman...so you reckon if I get naked pics of Leon in my sig I'll get back into positive karma points? ;)
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: garyrlee on September 25, 2013, 01:03:25 AM
hope we put a strong team out tonight , cup run would be good
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Tony Clifton on September 25, 2013, 01:10:35 AM
Bench full of full internationals.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 25, 2013, 01:16:04 AM
EFC XI to face Fulham: Robles, Gibson, Heitinga, Oviedo, Deulofeu, Naismith, Distin (C), McCarthy, Lukaku, Coleman, Stones. #EFCFFC

EFC subs: Baines, Jagielka, Jelavic, Mirallas, Barry, Barkley, Howard. #EFCFFC


Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: velimski on September 25, 2013, 01:16:10 AM
plenty of streams, albeit only flash ones    http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=221527&part=sports (http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=221527&part=sports)
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Silas on September 25, 2013, 01:16:49 AM
Team: Robles, Gibson, Heitinga, Oviedo, Deulofeu, Naismith, Distin (C), McCarthy, Lukaku, Coleman, Stones.

Are we playing 3-5-2?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 25, 2013, 01:17:16 AM
Bench full of full internationals.  :thumbsup:

It'd make a boss six-a-side team!
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 25, 2013, 01:19:26 AM
-----------------------Robles---------------------
---------Stones-----Heitinga------Distin---------
-----Coleman--------------------------Oviedo-----
----------------Gibson----McCarthy----------------
----------Deulofeu-------------Naismith-----------
------------------------Lukaku-----------------------

Looks like 3 at the back.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Silas on September 25, 2013, 01:21:30 AM
I like it, lots of pace and width
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 25, 2013, 01:21:53 AM
Maybe like this?

Robles

Stones Heitinga Distin
Coleman                                 Oviedo
Gibson McCarthy
 
Naismith     Deulofeu

Lukaku

Oops. Already posted, interesting line up though. Interested to see more of McCarthy, he kind of went under the radar during his last two substitution appearances.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Silas on September 25, 2013, 01:23:26 AM
Maybe like this?

Robles

Stones Heitinga Distin
Coleman                                  Oviedo
Gibson McCarthy
 
Naismith     Deulofeu

Lukaku

A Terry Venables Christmas Tree?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: velimski on September 25, 2013, 01:24:14 AM
Maybe like this?

Robles

Stones Heitinga Distin
Coleman                                 Oviedo
Gibson McCarthy
 
Naismith     Deulofeu

Lukaku

Oops. Already posted, interesting line up though. Interested to see more of McCarthy, he kind of went under the radar during his last two substitution appearances.

I think it's known as the 'rhombus' formation!
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Silas on September 25, 2013, 01:25:18 AM
Funny isn't it, if Moyes had put that team out it would be described as defensive but I see that as potentially an attacking lineup.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 25, 2013, 01:26:15 AM
Fulham: Stockdale, Zverotic, Hangeland, Senderos, Riise, Taarabt, Karagounis, Parker, Kacaniklic, Kasami, Berbatov. Subs: Sidwell, Rodallega, Riether, Amorebieta, Na Bangna, Etheridge, Bent.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 25, 2013, 01:26:35 AM
Fulham Starting XI: Stockdale; Zverotic, Senderos, Hangeland, Riise; Taarabt, Karagounis, Parker, Kacaniklic; Kasami; Berbatov #FFC

-----------------------Stockdale--------------------
----Zverotic---Senderos----Hangeland---Riise----
--------------Karagounis----Parker-----------------
-------Taarabt--------Kasami------Kacaniklic-------
-----------------------Berbatov----------------------

Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 25, 2013, 01:29:41 AM
Would've liked less changes from the weekend, with a view to trying to win the competition. Just seems like a big ask, making 8 changes and playing a different formation totally.

Anyway, I'm not intending to moan....will have faith in RM and his ideas, and see how things work out. COYB!
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 25, 2013, 01:31:13 AM
This side should have enough about them to see off Fulham. One of the CBs should be able to mark Berbatov out of the game, and if we cut off the supply lines then we should be alright defensively. Lots of pace and width in the attack, so hopefully we'll see a comfortable win. Bag an early goal, double the advantage shortly before the half, and score another to wrap it up around the hour mark.

It's almost a dead certainty that Deulofeu sets up Lukaku to score, isn't it?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 25, 2013, 01:32:42 AM
It's strange I actually quite like that line up and it's got 8 changes from the starting line up on Saturday.

Fulham have made 6 changes by the way.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Silas on September 25, 2013, 01:35:56 AM
Hope Distin is on Berbatov.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on September 25, 2013, 01:38:16 AM
Could it be like this?

----------------Robles-----------------

Coleman--Stones--Distin--Oviedo
           
---------Gibson----Heitinga----------

----Naismith---McCarthy--Deulofeu

----------------Lukaku-----------------
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Silas on September 25, 2013, 01:39:15 AM
Could it be like this?

----------------Robles-----------------

Coleman--Stones--Distin--Oviedo
           
---------Gibson----Heitinga----------

----Naismith---McCarthy--Deulofeu

----------------Lukaku-----------------

I think it will be this forward and Heitinga dropping back when coming back.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 01:39:36 AM
Wouls have liked to have seen Mirallas playing building on his partnership with Lukaku instead of our SPL class albino wonder
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Confucius on September 25, 2013, 01:39:50 AM
What has happened to Kone?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Tony Clifton on September 25, 2013, 01:40:08 AM
It'd make a boss six-a-side team!

Be sly on Jelavic though - Howard would score more.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 01:42:32 AM
What has happened to Kone?

Broke his leg falling down a grid just before Ramadan finished
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 25, 2013, 01:43:09 AM
What has happened to Kone?

A.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Dr. Sponge on September 25, 2013, 01:51:46 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing Deulofeu against PL opposition, as well as, of course, Romelu "The Beast" Lukaku from the start.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: howlin wolf on September 25, 2013, 01:52:20 AM
If we lose tonight I'll be livid. Baines, Jags and Miralles on the bench - that's no way to win to win a trophy. It's not treating Fulham with enough respect.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 01:54:25 AM
Strong team from Fulham.

Why don't we ever start with our best team and try to get ahead and THEN take players off who need a rest ?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: sharpattack on September 25, 2013, 01:55:16 AM

If we lose tonight I'll be livid. Baines, Jags and Miralles on the bench - that's no way to win to win a trophy. It's not treating Fulham with enough respect.
What a load pf bollox
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 25, 2013, 01:55:27 AM
Looking forward to seeing Deulofeu and Stones get some proper game time again.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 25, 2013, 01:56:42 AM
Strong team from Fulham.

Why don't we ever start with our best team and try to get ahead and THEN take players off who need a rest ?

We treat the early rounds in the same manner all top 6 sides do.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: GLewis on September 25, 2013, 01:58:17 AM
He's been quite clear why he rests this number of players.

It's to ensure that all the players are getting enough minutes to be useful when they are needed.

Whether that's right is obviously a debating point.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 25, 2013, 01:58:34 AM
Strong team from Fulham.

Why don't we ever start with our best team and try to get ahead and THEN take players off who need a rest ?

Tend to agree. Not going to be too critical yet, until we see how the game pans out. Just that we haven't played that many games like those in Champs League/Europa, so I'm surprised there's a need for such a large rotation at this stage.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 25, 2013, 01:58:40 AM
If we lose tonight I'll be livid. Baines, Jags and Miralles on the bench - that's no way to win to win a trophy. It's not treating Fulham with enough respect.


Totally disagree but fair play - at least you're saying this before the game instead of all the usual hindsight armchair managers we have on here
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 25, 2013, 01:59:24 AM
Any successful streams yet lads?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Wexfordtoffee on September 25, 2013, 01:59:27 AM
http://firstrownow.eu/watch/209905/1/watch-fulham-fc-vs-everton-fc.html (http://firstrownow.eu/watch/209905/1/watch-fulham-fc-vs-everton-fc.html)

looking like good english stream
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 25, 2013, 02:00:38 AM
Tend to agree. Not going to be too critical yet, until we see how the game pans out. Just that we haven't played that many games like those in Champs League/Europa, so I'm surprised there's a need for such a large rotation at this stage.


Classic.  Wait until the game's over then make a judgement on whether the team was right
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 25, 2013, 02:02:40 AM
Classic.  Wait until the game's over then make a judgement on whether the team was right

No...just being balanced. I've stated a couple of times that I wouldn't have gone the way we have gone, but I also accept that RM is infinitely more qualified and I'm happy to be proven wrong.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: 5yeararteta on September 25, 2013, 02:03:14 AM
http://www.streamking.org/channel10.html (http://www.streamking.org/channel10.html)

working perfect for me mate
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Wexfordtoffee on September 25, 2013, 02:03:26 AM
I think it will be this forward and Heitinga dropping back when coming back.

looks like this formation now. would rather 3 at back hate seeing Heitinga in midfield
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Trowel on September 25, 2013, 02:04:04 AM
http://www.sporting-tv.eu/stream6.html (http://www.sporting-tv.eu/stream6.html)

working for me (Virgin block Firstrow)
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 25, 2013, 02:06:00 AM
Great work by Gibson.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 02:07:34 AM
Having to 'rest' players in September is a bit ridiculous.  We used to have a 'squad' of about 14 playing 60+ games a season back in the 80's...

If managers were honest they'd admit they dont really care about this competition and just use it see some of their squad players have a run out. PL is all they care about.

Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 25, 2013, 02:07:39 AM
Love how Romalu holds the ball up, Jelavic doesnt do it.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Wexfordtoffee on September 25, 2013, 02:11:20 AM
http://www.sporting-tv.eu/stream6.html (http://www.sporting-tv.eu/stream6.html)

working for me (Virgin block Firstrow)

good stream mate. was watching firstrow but this is better picture.
thats strange bout Virgin didnt know that.  live in ireland so we dont have Virgin
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 02:11:41 AM
Should have scored Naismith
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 25, 2013, 02:11:41 AM
Sigh, the albino is just fucking garbage.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: velimski on September 25, 2013, 02:11:52 AM
silky from Lukaku
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 02:11:54 AM
Quality turn and pass by Luka :)
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 25, 2013, 02:11:57 AM
Should be 1-0....sensational from the Beast.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Trowel on September 25, 2013, 02:11:58 AM
Fuck me, how good was that from Lukaku to play Naismith in.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 25, 2013, 02:12:23 AM
On the other hand, Ive never been more excited about a striker ever as I am with Lukaku, he is awesome.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on September 25, 2013, 02:12:37 AM
Lukaku's turns are so sexy, great run from Naismith, just needed a better finish.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 02:12:42 AM
Shite that Naismith isnt he? ;)
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 02:12:49 AM
Sigh, the albino is just fucking garbage.

Nob.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Trowel on September 25, 2013, 02:12:52 AM
Quality goal, well deserved.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 25, 2013, 02:13:02 AM
What a goal, RIGHT after I said he was shite! Haha
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 25, 2013, 02:13:02 AM
get in there Jezza - absolutely delightful run and pass for a good finish from Naismith
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Silas on September 25, 2013, 02:13:02 AM
Naismith is Johnny on the spot!
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 25, 2013, 02:13:44 AM
Good goal, Naismith has started well.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 02:14:19 AM
Midfield looks miles better already with Gibbo back
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 25, 2013, 02:14:59 AM
Possibly the most open game I've seen this season....
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on September 25, 2013, 02:15:29 AM
They can't stay with us here, great movement all over the park.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 25, 2013, 02:15:50 AM
Arggh, im spunking in my keks at Delefeou, he looks promising.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 02:16:02 AM
Jezza, Jezza, Jezza!
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 25, 2013, 02:16:02 AM
I'm relying on you guys and the BBC's vidiprinter for updates, I'm in work on a late shift and this friggin' computer won't take any streams.

Fascists.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 02:16:08 AM
Quality dribble by Deulo :)
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: velimski on September 25, 2013, 02:16:10 AM
DualFuel is ripping them a new one!
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on September 25, 2013, 02:16:13 AM

get in there Jezza - absolutely delightful run and pass for a good finish from Naismith

Terrible defending though. They all stood and watched Deulofeu run at them whilst Naismith made the most obvious run right through the middle imaginable.

Tidy goal.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Trowel on September 25, 2013, 02:16:23 AM
Gerard. Better than Messi.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 25, 2013, 02:16:33 AM
Rediculous left back playing Nais on side but good goal.  Lukaku really is so good though
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: wepull on September 25, 2013, 02:17:07 AM
Such smart runs is why I think Naismith should play behind the Striker instead of Barkley. I know he's playing wide even today but with a different formation. We look more dangerous when we have more bodies who would more likely finish the move rather than just begin them.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 25, 2013, 02:17:50 AM
Scott Parker will be able to tell his grand kids that one day he played against Gerard Deulofeu
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 02:17:58 AM
Just like a Moyes cup performance isn't it? ;)
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on September 25, 2013, 02:18:52 AM
It's weird to not see our keeper freak out and scream after an opposing players has a shot or wins a header in our box.

Robles needs to pick that up from Howard.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 25, 2013, 02:19:27 AM
Scott Parker will be able to tell his grand kids that one day he played against Gerard Deulofeu

And got close enough to foul him
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Trowel on September 25, 2013, 02:19:48 AM
Just like a Moyes cup performance isn't it? ;)

Yes - we look like Wigan, Fulham like Everton ;)
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 02:20:32 AM
Two loan guys are different class ... pity they arent our own.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 02:20:38 AM
Fuck, unlucky Sylvain lid
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on September 25, 2013, 02:21:11 AM
Fulham are shite. Not just a bit shite. Really really shite.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 25, 2013, 02:21:39 AM
Deulofeu is looking immense tonight

Fulham look absolutely awful but let's concentrate on us!
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on September 25, 2013, 02:22:07 AM
There must be about 6000 people there, and 3000 of them are Evertonians.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Wexfordtoffee on September 25, 2013, 02:22:51 AM
Two loan guys are different class ... pity they arent our own.

was thinking that myself. but Euromillions is 55m tonight, if i win might ring bill and give him money to buy Lukaku
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 02:23:01 AM
We should be out of sight here
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 25, 2013, 02:23:17 AM
Develish from Gerard.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 25, 2013, 02:23:20 AM
Awesome Deulefeu!
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: velimski on September 25, 2013, 02:23:30 AM
Jezza causing havoc in their defence.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueski on September 25, 2013, 02:24:02 AM
deulofeu really needs to get a sense of playing in a team environment, amazing skill but trying to do a bit too much all by himself
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on September 25, 2013, 02:24:12 AM
The kids got a bit of the good stuff.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Amata on September 25, 2013, 02:24:23 AM
Deulofeu is looking immense tonight

Fulham look absolutely awful but let's concentrate on us!

He is enjoying turning Riise inside out.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Optimistic Blue on September 25, 2013, 02:24:44 AM
LMAO

every cunt who ever criticised naismith apologise NOW
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on September 25, 2013, 02:25:23 AM
Song for Taraabt:

Shit Deulofeu. You're just a shit Deulofeu, shit deulofeeeeeeeuuuu. Your just a shit Deulofeu.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 02:25:53 AM
LMAO

every cunt who ever criticised naismith apologise NOW

Why?  He's still shite.  Should have had 3 by now.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 02:26:00 AM
How lucky are we to have probably the two best young players in Europe on loan - really great work by the club / manager ...
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 25, 2013, 02:26:02 AM
Awesome Deulefeu!

that kind of stuff is what we saw on his Youtube video from the Barcelona B Team

it doesn't half look more exciting in an Everton shirt though!!
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 25, 2013, 02:27:46 AM
Be good to see us kill this off first half. Now matter how shit they've looked, they'll still fancy it at 1-0 down and they have skilful individuals to turn a game if they're still in it.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Jimbo and the Jetset on September 25, 2013, 02:27:59 AM
Fulham really are a shite excuse for a football club.

Should really be consigned to League One for all eternity.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 25, 2013, 02:29:25 AM
Does anyone on here ever wonder what life would be like WITHOUT Naismith?

Must be pretty awesome I'm sure.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 02:30:07 AM
Saw Fulham at Chelsea recently and they made them work really hard for the 2-0 win. They're not that bad.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: slothzen on September 25, 2013, 02:33:24 AM
Our loans are incredible.  Bittersweet.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 02:33:35 AM
Getting worried now.  We should have scored enough to have won 3 games by now,  Hope all these missed chances don't come back to haunt us
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: 5yeararteta on September 25, 2013, 02:33:42 AM
deulofeu really needs to get a sense of playing in a team environment, amazing skill but trying to do a bit too much all by himself

your crazy
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 25, 2013, 02:35:56 AM
your crazy

Unless your response was sarcastic, I agree with blueski. Terrific skill and running with the ball, but he needs to learn when to release it (and he will) at times.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 02:37:01 AM
Need to see this out to HT in the lead then maybe bring some 1st teamers on.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: 5yeararteta on September 25, 2013, 02:39:01 AM
Unless your response was sarcastic, I agree with blueski. Terrific skill and running with the ball, but he needs to learn when to release it (and he will) at times.

he just put two players through on goal. cant be prefect evervtime. his been the best player on the pitch.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueski on September 25, 2013, 02:39:26 AM
by now youd think our players will have learnt when gerard has the ball wide right may as well make a run for the far post because that's where it will end up
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 02:40:07 AM
We need to start gambling on Jezza's crosses, couple went right across like that with everyone watching the other week as well
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on September 25, 2013, 02:40:23 AM
Delofeu is great but sometimes he needs to not take his man on and just put the ball across early.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 25, 2013, 02:41:34 AM
he just put two players through on goal. cant be prefect evervtime. his been the best player on the pitch.

Agree with most of that...and I'm not slagging him off at all. He's been terrific. It's just an area of his game he could work on as he gets even better IMO.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 02:42:20 AM
Delofeu is great but sometimes he needs to not take his man on and just put the ball across early.

No the Barca tiki-taka way...
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 02:42:21 AM
Fuck off you plate smashing shithouse
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on September 25, 2013, 02:42:29 AM
Going Naisy let him have it!
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 02:44:06 AM
Deulofeu - most skilful player in an Everton shirt since... ?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueski on September 25, 2013, 02:44:19 AM
you have to love the workrate naismith brings, nice reaction to being subbed off on saturday
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 02:44:54 AM
Deulofeu - most skilful player in an Everton shirt since... ?

Limpar
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 25, 2013, 02:45:31 AM
Deulofeu - most skilful player in an Everton shirt since... ?

Barkley?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: 5yeararteta on September 25, 2013, 02:46:21 AM
Deulofeu - most skilful player in an Everton shirt since... ?

kevin kilbane
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on September 25, 2013, 02:47:16 AM
Love how confident Deulofeu is. Be great if we keep him for another season as has been touted. Future star of both Barcelona and Spain. Totally the type of player I want to see at us
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Jimbo and the Jetset on September 25, 2013, 02:47:38 AM
That Lukaku is shit, get Jelavic on ;)
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 02:47:40 AM
Good first half, really need to kill them off early in the 2nd tho
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 25, 2013, 02:48:11 AM
Love how confident Deulofeu is. Be great if we keep him for another season as has been touted. Future star of both Barcelona and Spain. Totally the type of player I want to see at us

he really is exciting to watch

imagine him if we keep him in 18 months time.....against Liverpool, absolutely tearing them apart
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: true1891blue on September 25, 2013, 02:49:03 AM
i used to think it was just Dempsey that shot from everywere for Fulham but seems a tactic if theres
 
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 25, 2013, 02:50:05 AM
Does anyone on here ever wonder what life would be like WITHOUT Naismith?

Must be pretty awesome I'm sure.

0-0 I imagine.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Eddie on September 25, 2013, 02:51:06 AM
Deulofeu - most skilful player in an Everton shirt since... ?

Decourt.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Silas on September 25, 2013, 02:51:11 AM
Deulofeu, Lukaku, Naismith, Distin all very good.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: the_sas_orange on September 25, 2013, 02:51:35 AM
Love how confident Deulofeu is. Be great if we keep him for another season as has been touted. Future star of both Barcelona and Spain. Totally the type of player I want to see at us

How many Barcelona "stars" have been loaned out at his age? I'm thinking none and he has about as much chance of playing regularly for barc as anyone playing today which is about none.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueski on September 25, 2013, 02:52:05 AM
he really is exciting to watch

imagine him if we keep him in 18 months time.....against Liverpool, absolutely tearing them apart
I think he's gotten the ball singlehandedly to the opposition's third about 90% of the time he's gotten so much as a touch
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 25, 2013, 02:52:07 AM
Deulofeu - most skilful player in an Everton shirt since... ?

Fernandes.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Eddie on September 25, 2013, 02:52:38 AM
We definitely need to start converting our chances as Fulham aren't out of this by any means. Good job we've been solid at the back upto now. Taraabt looking dangerous.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: true1891blue on September 25, 2013, 02:53:07 AM
Naismith give him credit has been good but I would love the throw mirallas into the mix for a front 3

                       mirallas                     lakaku                   deulofeu
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 25, 2013, 02:53:09 AM
Can't wait to see Barkley, Deulefeu and Mirallas behind Lukaku. 
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Silas on September 25, 2013, 02:53:11 AM
Fernandes.

Ha, no.  Limpar and Kanchelskis are the last truly tricky players we have had.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 25, 2013, 02:54:16 AM
Naismith give him credit has been good but I would love the throw mirallas into the mix for a front 3

                       mirallas                     lakaku                   deulofeu

3-4-3?

Haven't seen that since Player Manger on the Atari ST
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Eddie on September 25, 2013, 02:54:43 AM
Ha, no.  Limpar and Kanchelskis are the last truly tricky players we have had.

Rooney?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 25, 2013, 02:55:24 AM
Ha, no.  Limpar and Kanchelskis are the last truly tricky players we have had.

VDM..?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueski on September 25, 2013, 02:55:49 AM
think we really need to get lukaku more touches on the ball in the 2nd half
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Eddie on September 25, 2013, 02:56:08 AM
VDM..?

I don't remember seeing enough of him to see any skills!
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: GLewis on September 25, 2013, 02:56:27 AM
3-4-3?

Haven't seen that since Player Manger on the Atari ST

Wigan played it most of last season.

Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 25, 2013, 02:57:07 AM
Rooney?

I was trying to think of a player I was genuinely excited about getting the ball, and the last one was Rooney.  You just had a sense that he was going to do something special with the ball, and that's the same with Deulofeu
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 02:58:03 AM
3-4-3?

Haven't seen that since Player Manger on the Atari ST

Wasted months of my life on that game.  Was streets ahead of anything at the time, and IMO the best footy game ever made
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: velimski on September 25, 2013, 02:58:19 AM
Ha, no.  Limpar and Kanchelskis are the last truly tricky players we have had.

Royston?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 02:58:53 AM
BBC

Everton's number 10 Gerard Deulofeu is running the show. Any pronunciation guides on the little fella's name are most welcome. Dayo-le-fayo? Or De-ol-afu?

Craig in Weymouth via 81111: Re 2039: It's pronounced del-la-fay-ooh.

Matt in Liverpool via 81111: Re 2039: Think it's pronounced Do-Low-Fay-oo, Tom. But I like to call him Doolie :-)

Mark in Shepton via 81111: Re 2039: It's pronounced Deffo-a-Blue. :lol:
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Eddie on September 25, 2013, 03:00:14 AM
BBC

Everton's number 10 Gerard Deulofeu is running the show. Any pronunciation guides on the little fella's name are most welcome. Dayo-le-fayo? Or De-ol-afu?

Craig in Weymouth via 81111: Re 2039: It's pronounced del-la-fay-ooh.

Matt in Liverpool via 81111: Re 2039: Think it's pronounced Do-Low-Fay-oo, Tom. But I like to call him Doolie :-)

Mark in Shepton via 81111: Re 2039: It's pronounced Deffo-a-Blue. :lol:

Mark in Shepton gets my vote.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 25, 2013, 03:00:28 AM
BBC

Everton's number 10 Gerard Deulofeu is running the show. Any pronunciation guides on the little fella's name are most welcome. Dayo-le-fayo? Or De-ol-afu?

Craig in Weymouth via 81111: Re 2039: It's pronounced del-la-fay-ooh.

Matt in Liverpool via 81111: Re 2039: Think it's pronounced Do-Low-Fay-oo, Tom. But I like to call him Doolie :-)

Mark in Shepton via 81111: Re 2039: It's pronounced Deffo-a-Blue. :lol:

Jezza
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueski on September 25, 2013, 03:01:02 AM
btw you know your streams bad when lukaku looks like fellaini in a cahill jersey
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Lincs Toffee on September 25, 2013, 03:01:14 AM
Anyone else lost the streamking stream ?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Eddie on September 25, 2013, 03:01:16 AM
Big D.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 25, 2013, 03:04:05 AM
BBC

Everton's number 10 Gerard Deulofeu is running the show. Any pronunciation guides on the little fella's name are most welcome. Dayo-le-fayo? Or De-ol-afu?

Craig in Weymouth via 81111: Re 2039: It's pronounced del-la-fay-ooh.

Matt in Liverpool via 81111: Re 2039: Think it's pronounced Do-Low-Fay-oo, Tom. But I like to call him Doolie :-)

Mark in Shepton via 81111: Re 2039: It's pronounced Deffo-a-Blue. :lol:

Duel Fuel.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Jimbo and the Jetset on September 25, 2013, 03:06:17 AM
Scott Parker won England caps.  Discuss.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Eddie on September 25, 2013, 03:06:22 AM
btw you know your streams bad when lukaku looks like fellaini in a cahill jersey

Mines ok here....

http://www.sportlemon.tv/20130924/vv5241440a305e55.09983727-648890.html (http://www.sportlemon.tv/20130924/vv5241440a305e55.09983727-648890.html)
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on September 25, 2013, 03:06:40 AM
Jool-oh-fur is how I pronounce it loosely based on that youtube vid where Martinez says his name. I practice it daily
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 03:07:36 AM
Time for some 1st teamers to sure us up before they get back into this..
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on September 25, 2013, 03:07:49 AM
So Heitinga still does that thing where he steps on the achilles of his opponents when he closes them down from behind. What a shithouse he can be sometimes.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 25, 2013, 03:08:23 AM
Started the second half terribly. Nowhere near enough energy in defence. Weve got to press them rather than just stand off
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Trowel on September 25, 2013, 03:11:31 AM
FFS
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 25, 2013, 03:11:34 AM
Been coming
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 25, 2013, 03:11:36 AM
Dang.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 03:11:44 AM
Fucking pricks.  Knew this was coming after all those missed chances
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 03:11:49 AM
Time for some 1st teamers to sure us up before they get back into this..

Too late.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Redartin on September 25, 2013, 03:11:57 AM
Shit
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueski on September 25, 2013, 03:12:20 AM
shit defending that
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 25, 2013, 03:12:50 AM
Dreadful. We cant just let teams play. We need to show some energy in defence
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: BlueWool on September 25, 2013, 03:12:53 AM
Are we reading anything into the fact that Lukaku started? I won't be happy if Jelavic starts against the Geordies over Romelu.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Trowel on September 25, 2013, 03:13:06 AM
Think Stones will hold his hands up there for losing Boborov, but Heitinga's pass out to Lukaku was sloppy and the wrong option.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueski on September 25, 2013, 03:13:52 AM
Are we reading anything into the fact that Lukaku started? I won't be happy if Jelavic starts against the Geordies over Romelu.
mate we've got until monday, plenty of recovery time, means nothing
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 03:15:26 AM
They want it more now.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Jimbo and the Jetset on September 25, 2013, 03:15:36 AM
That Karagounis is such a snidey little shithouse!
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Wexfordtoffee on September 25, 2013, 03:15:51 AM
Think Stones will hold his hands up there for losing Boborov, but Heitinga's pass out to Lukaku was sloppy and the wrong option.

thats the only player i didnt think who should have started Heitinga i mean, especially not in midfield
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 03:16:32 AM
Wish someone would shoot instead of trying to walk it in
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 25, 2013, 03:17:21 AM
Just wish we weren't so casual when we're so superior to the opposition. Get to 3-0 and then give it the swagger.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on September 25, 2013, 03:17:55 AM
This stream and performance are getting worse by the minute!
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 25, 2013, 03:18:01 AM
The crossing has been dreadful today
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Trowel on September 25, 2013, 03:18:09 AM
Oviedo has been anonymous.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Redartin on September 25, 2013, 03:18:28 AM
Think Gibson should be taken off before he is sent off.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 03:18:52 AM
Shoudl have been behind there
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 03:18:55 AM
Time now for the cavalry before they go ahead...
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueski on September 25, 2013, 03:20:10 AM
definitely time for substitutions
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on September 25, 2013, 03:21:15 AM
Someone needs to put Karagounis in the fucking ground, what a hairy bitch he is.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 03:21:32 AM
Good choice:

03 Baines
06 Jagielka
11 Mirallas
18 Barry
20 Barkley
07 Jelavic
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: chang on September 25, 2013, 03:21:54 AM
This one is working, http://online--soccer.eu/channel4.html (http://online--soccer.eu/channel4.html)
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 25, 2013, 03:23:58 AM
Oviedo has been anonymous.

I thought he's been very tenacious... well you have to be I suppose when your first touch is so poor
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: velimski on September 25, 2013, 03:24:07 AM
Throw Mirallas and Baines on
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 03:24:48 AM
Get him off and Barry on Bob FFS
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 25, 2013, 03:25:20 AM
Oviedo isn't good enough for me, even as a back up. He doesn't do anything well enough.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 03:25:28 AM
Barry & Jags ..
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 03:25:32 AM
Fucking pathetic.  Fuck off Everton
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: velimski on September 25, 2013, 03:25:46 AM
FUCK RIGHT OFF
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 25, 2013, 03:25:47 AM
Crap. He had a ton of room.

Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on September 25, 2013, 03:25:52 AM
Wow that was very poor. How could no one see that coming?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 25, 2013, 03:25:57 AM
He may very well go on to be 1 of the best players in the World BUT Deulofeu is shite. Greedy beyond belief. He'd rather give himself a 1% chance of scoring a wonder goal than help the team.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Redartin on September 25, 2013, 03:26:02 AM
That was total shit
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 25, 2013, 03:26:02 AM
Missing all them chances in the first half gonna cost us.

Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 25, 2013, 03:26:04 AM
oh dear

Naismith been marked out of the game in the second half and Deulofeu been a different player

Mirallas needs to come on, not Jags
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 03:26:13 AM
Fuck off - you waited too long Martinez.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: DannyR on September 25, 2013, 03:26:20 AM
Fucks sake

Sent from my GT-I9305 using Tapatalk 4

Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 25, 2013, 03:26:38 AM
Very poor by Robles.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Gash on September 25, 2013, 03:26:46 AM
Terrible defending. Well made goal my arse, we totally left Bent unmarked, very sloppy.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 03:26:48 AM
WTF, Jagielka?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: hannu on September 25, 2013, 03:26:55 AM
gibson showing him the goal, sort ya head out gibbo
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 25, 2013, 03:26:57 AM
Needs to rethink the subs, Jol has gone for this and its worked.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Eddie on September 25, 2013, 03:27:01 AM
Piss poor defending for both goals.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 25, 2013, 03:27:01 AM
Why bring on 2 defensive players now?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueski on September 25, 2013, 03:27:12 AM
who came off?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 25, 2013, 03:27:16 AM
Fucking awful defending, and Robles standing like he's been on a horse for days ffs.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: sharpattack on September 25, 2013, 03:27:57 AM
Good old blues. Never fail to let you down
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: steve81 on September 25, 2013, 03:28:48 AM
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 03:29:01 AM
Did Moyes do the half time team talk?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 03:29:23 AM
So Martinez could see we needed subs and dithered - Moyes Mk II there. :(
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 25, 2013, 03:29:58 AM
Who came off?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Wexfordtoffee on September 25, 2013, 03:30:09 AM
why bring on 2 defensive players now. could have put Heitinga back there instead of jags coming on
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on September 25, 2013, 03:31:02 AM
What were the subs?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 25, 2013, 03:31:19 AM
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

Who'd have expected to see you at this time
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 25, 2013, 03:31:21 AM
This feels like a very stupid performance since we scored. Wasteful in attack against some old, slow players and really lacking in concentration at the back. Would blame a few of the players myself rather than RM. Should have had enough on the pitch to win this game after 30-35 mins.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 03:31:33 AM
Heitinga and Gibson for Barry and Jagielka
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Gash on September 25, 2013, 03:31:34 AM
Who came off?

Heitinga and Gibson, steve81 and Sharpattack on.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: steve81 on September 25, 2013, 03:31:46 AM
Every year I don't know why we are even in the league we are so poor in it every year
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueski on September 25, 2013, 03:31:59 AM
Who came off?
heitinga and gibson were replaced by jags and barry
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Eddie on September 25, 2013, 03:32:05 AM
What were the subs?

Jags for johnny. Barry for Gibson.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 25, 2013, 03:32:15 AM
Can Naismith read anything>?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 25, 2013, 03:32:44 AM
 
Heitinga and Gibson, steve81 and Sharpattack on.

 lolol lolol lolol
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 25, 2013, 03:33:07 AM
So Martinez could see we needed subs and dithered - Moyes Mk II there. :(

you don't make substitutions when you're defending a free kick
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on September 25, 2013, 03:33:12 AM
Re the subs
Cheers guys
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 03:33:44 AM
you don't make substitutions when you're defending a free kick

We didn't defend it ;)
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on September 25, 2013, 03:34:02 AM
Can Naismith read anything>?

Do you ever stop slagging Naismith off? Seriously, nearly every post you have made in this thread has been about how shit you think Naismith is.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 03:34:04 AM
Would blame a few of the players myself rather than RM.

Always the managers responsibilty, the momemtum was with Fulham since HT and RM needed to do something to change it.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Eddie on September 25, 2013, 03:34:13 AM
What is it with us and Fulham away?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: wepull on September 25, 2013, 03:35:32 AM
Need to bring Mirallas on for Stones and soon
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Gash on September 25, 2013, 03:35:36 AM
Can Naismith read anything>?

Jelavic headers, Deulofeu passes?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Jimbo and the Jetset on September 25, 2013, 03:35:57 AM
This games drifting away without any sort of fight at the mo people :(
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Redartin on September 25, 2013, 03:36:54 AM
Can Naismith read anything>?

Daily Record maybe
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 25, 2013, 03:37:46 AM
Always the managers responsibilty, the momemtum was with Fulham since HT and RM needed to do something to change it.

Nonsense. Individual errors that cost goals are the individuals responsibility. People not passing in the final third when you have a man in space for an easy chance is again the players fault. The subs could've been a bit earlier, but the game should've been out of sight.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 25, 2013, 03:38:06 AM
Need to show something here. Not looking likely to score at the moment.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 03:38:54 AM
Get some fucking players in the box, fucks sake.  How many times do we watch balls go right across the area
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueski on September 25, 2013, 03:40:54 AM
lot better from deloufeu now we really need to score COYB!
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 25, 2013, 03:41:27 AM
Next year...
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Jimbo and the Jetset on September 25, 2013, 03:42:47 AM
Next year...
Next year...another abject League Cup showing...:(
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on September 25, 2013, 03:44:31 AM

Next year...another abject League Cup showing...:(
perhaps it's just not meant to be..........ever?!
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on September 25, 2013, 03:44:42 AM
never win at the cottage, should have been out of sight , individual errors and decisions cost us.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 03:45:04 AM
Have we had a shot on target this half?

Edit - 1 from lukaku? is that it
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 03:45:46 AM
Nonsense. Individual errors that cost goals are the individuals responsibility. People not passing in the final third when you have a man in space for an easy chance is again the players fault. The subs could've been a bit earlier, but the game should've been out of sight.

But the game wasnt out of sight so the manager has to act to get a result.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 03:46:05 AM
Fuck off.  Fucking open goal
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: velimski on September 25, 2013, 03:46:10 AM
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on September 25, 2013, 03:46:20 AM
he's got to score that
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 25, 2013, 03:46:26 AM
How did he not score?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 25, 2013, 03:48:44 AM
Very wasteful this. Much better than these, even with the rotation. Chance to continue the optimism and the confidence growing, and maintain the unbeaten run and maybe even a long cup run.

Just gifted the game away for no apparent reason. And there's 3,000 of us paying to be there, which is unbelievably good so it's all a bit lame. Pretty pissed off to be honest.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 03:49:45 AM
First real fuck-up this by Martinez.   

This was such a winnable game at HT... ah but its ok 'cos its only the League Cup, eh ?

Totally pissed off.. yet another Cup chance missed.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueski on September 25, 2013, 03:49:57 AM
shambolic
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Eddie on September 25, 2013, 03:50:01 AM
Coleman.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: slothzen on September 25, 2013, 03:50:05 AM
How we've lost is absolutely impossible for me to wrap my head around.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2013, 03:50:25 AM
No real surprises given Martinez's poor cup record but a useful lesson for him about certain players hopefully.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Eddie on September 25, 2013, 03:52:05 AM
How we've lost is absolutely impossible for me to wrap my head around.

Sloppiness, simple as that. In defence and in front of goal. Coleman's miss was shocking.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 03:52:12 AM
Fuck off.  Fucking joke.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 03:52:17 AM
Professional experienced performance by Fulham 2nd half.

We needed our professional experienced players but left it too late.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: EighteenSeventyEight on September 25, 2013, 03:52:17 AM
fuckin shit
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 25, 2013, 03:52:24 AM
How we've lost is absolutely impossible for me to wrap my head around.

this, totally fucking this
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Jimbo and the Jetset on September 25, 2013, 03:52:38 AM
Strength in depth? Lol
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Ridge on September 25, 2013, 03:53:12 AM
Mickey mouse cup :whistle:
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 25, 2013, 03:53:17 AM
Shite game to lose. What annoys me mroe is we have lost to an absolute shithouse of a team, Fulham will do next to fuck all this season.

A simple case of needing to take your chances when on top.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 03:53:19 AM
Dont respect the opponent/competition - deserve what you get.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on September 25, 2013, 03:53:20 AM
Thought we were walking this at half time.
Poor show blues, poor show.

Arse
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 25, 2013, 03:53:26 AM
Deulofeu is a fucking joke.

Greedy cunt.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on September 25, 2013, 03:53:53 AM
Professional experienced performance by Fulham 2nd half.

We needed our professional experienced players but left it too late.

Yep, definitely agree. We fielded a lot of young and inexperienced players today and despite playing well and being exciting we needed players like Jags and Barry to see us through before going behind.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 25, 2013, 03:54:02 AM
How we've lost is absolutely impossible for me to wrap my head around.

Colemans miss was fucking hilariously bad, crap defending for bents goal and not taking our chances in the first half.

Simple really.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 03:54:24 AM
'Fulham's first home win since April Fool's Day - it's no joke for Everton though. They are out.'
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: 5yeararteta on September 25, 2013, 03:54:24 AM
your losing and you have baines barkley and mirrallas, so you bring on barry and jags dont understand that
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 25, 2013, 03:54:25 AM
Some major bellends on here.  C'mon let's hear it all you tactical geniuses
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on September 25, 2013, 03:54:31 AM
Ahh disappointing that we fell asleep for a bit of the second half. Not our day.  Let's beat Newcastle and move on
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 25, 2013, 03:54:37 AM
Thought Martinez' substitutions were awful. Too late, too little.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Ridge on September 25, 2013, 03:54:38 AM
Feel sorry for Coleman, that was a poor effort with an open net shot.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 25, 2013, 03:55:05 AM
For me that was totally the players fault, not RMs. I was actually against the number of players rotated so I've got no axe to grind, but the players on the pitch proved that they were much better than Fulham very quickly and could've made it an embarrassing night for them, and then gifted the game away needlessly. Pretty lame.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 03:55:12 AM
your losing and you have baines barkley and mirrallas, so you bring on barry and jags dont understand that

Tried to tighten it up at 1-1 but was too fuckin late and it went 2-1.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: steve81 on September 25, 2013, 03:55:14 AM
Fucking fuming what a load of shite thrown it away what the fuck did Martinez say at half time put your feet up. First home win since April fools day same competition different manager same result again
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 25, 2013, 03:55:26 AM
we should have put away more of our chances in the first half and had the game won by then

then we could have brought on the likes of Barry and Jags to make sure we stayed ahead

at half time, we had the game won.  Fulham came out a totally different side after the break though and our younger lads couldn't adapt, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: wepull on September 25, 2013, 03:55:38 AM
We just got too comfortable with the lead and never really pushed on for the 2nd goal. Deulofeu, Naismith and Lukaku barely showed up 2nd half. Just shows we cannot ever get complacent in a football match.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: School of Science on September 25, 2013, 03:55:40 AM
Annoying should have been all over in the first half, our marking for their goal from a free kick was laughable.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: krakkokain on September 25, 2013, 03:55:52 AM
No real surprises given Martinez's poor cup record but a useful lesson for him about certain players hopefully.

No real surprise you said that...cant even be bothered to call you a dick

Thought we played well and were unlucky!
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2013, 03:56:01 AM
Deulofeu is a fucking joke.

Greedy cunt.

You can't say that, he's only a 19 year old kid. He should've been taken off after about 60 minutes when his decision making started to let him down consistently. The switch to 3-5-2 only partially worked anyway.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: the_sas_orange on September 25, 2013, 03:56:10 AM
people need to at least remember how amazing all the new signings played. Everton had like two future players of the year in the line up.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on September 25, 2013, 03:56:14 AM
Deulofeu is a fucking joke.

Greedy cunt.

He does the same thing as Barkley, holding onto the ball too long, but he is so much greedier.

Every time he gets the ball he takes his man on, which worked in the first half when they weren't sure what he was going to do. Then their defenders just stood off him an extra yard and he couldn't blow by them with his pace. Lots to learn for him and despite all his talents you can see why he has been loaned to us as he is a long way away from being a top player with his current mentality.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 25, 2013, 03:56:15 AM
'Fulham's first home win since April Fool's Day - it's no joke for Everton though. They are out.'

We always like to break those type of streaks. :(
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Redartin on September 25, 2013, 03:56:38 AM
Bit players are just that, bit players. Should have started with our best 11, done the same against Stevenage and nearly fucked up then. This was one of the two competitions we had a chance in, so why experiment in it?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: efcforlife on September 25, 2013, 03:56:49 AM
Yep, definitely agree. We fielded a lot of young and inexperienced players today and despite playing well and being exciting we needed players like Jags and Barry to see us through before going behind.

Jags and Barry were on the touchline waiting to come on when Bent scored... Martinez identified it
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 25, 2013, 03:57:03 AM
Give up with this competition - not watching us again in it unless we play the first team. Same shite every year.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on September 25, 2013, 03:57:24 AM
Well that was a bit poo in the end.

I enjoyed the first half and the second was entertaining to say the least. Shocking defending though.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 25, 2013, 03:57:31 AM
The one saving grace for me was that I couldn't get a stream, therefore never had to endure that second half. Reading your posts was painful enough mind.

Ah well, one less thing to concentrate on, we can get on with the league till January now!
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 25, 2013, 03:58:03 AM
The one saving grace for me was that I couldn't get a stream, therefore never had to endure that second half. Reading your posts was painful enough mind.

Ah well, one less thing to concentrate on, we can get on with the league till January now!

you missed out on some delights in the first half though
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2013, 03:58:14 AM
your losing and you have baines barkley and mirrallas, so you bring on barry and jags dont understand that

The decision was made before they scored their second.

But he wanted two things: firstly, to get Gibson off who was both knackered and one foul away from a red. And to switch to 3-5-2 to regain control of the midfield, which sort of worked but not enough.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on September 25, 2013, 03:58:29 AM
Poor defending, poor finishing, Poor Subs.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on September 25, 2013, 03:58:48 AM
Jags and Barry were on the touchline waiting to come on when Bent scored... Martinez identified it

Too late though.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Silas on September 25, 2013, 03:58:57 AM
Second half was really poor. Can't believe he didn't take Gerard off who went from great to terrible very quickly. Especially with a ready made replacement in Mirallas there.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: efcforlife on September 25, 2013, 03:59:24 AM
He does the same thing as Barkley, holding onto the ball too long, but he is so much greedier.

Every time he gets the ball he takes his man on, which worked in the first half when they weren't sure what he was going to do. Then their defenders just stood off him an extra yard and he couldn't blow by them with his pace. Lots to learn for him and despite all his talents you can see why he has been loaned to us as he is a long way away from being a top player with his current mentality.

Its his defending that mattered to me today..or lack of it should I say.

should of dropped 10 yards and stood on Bent but failed to do so for Fulhams 2nd.

Left Coleman exposed for an hour until Martinez tweaked the system
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: sharpattack on September 25, 2013, 03:59:37 AM
Why do we even enter this competition?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 03:59:46 AM
Nothing wrong with Bob's tactics or his team to me.

As I said after about 25 minutes, we had enough chances to have won 3 or 4 games, but as usual the finishing was fucking abysmal.  We never shoot and when we do get a decent cross in, nobody gambles on it.

Was just a matter of time til we gifted them something, we always do.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueski on September 25, 2013, 03:59:52 AM
Professional experienced performance by Fulham 2nd half.

We needed our professional experienced players but left it too late.
berbatov was immense, haven't seen him put in a performance like that for ages
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: SpankRock on September 25, 2013, 03:59:56 AM
Disappointing result & 2nd half performance. Nowhere near as disappointing as seeing some of shit spouted on here. Toolage.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: the_sas_orange on September 25, 2013, 04:00:05 AM
For me that was totally the players fault, not RMs. I was actually against the number of players rotated so I've got no axe to grind, but the players on the pitch proved that they were much better than Fulham very quickly and could've made it an embarrassing night for them, and then gifted the game away needlessly. Pretty lame.
??????? They are his players.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 25, 2013, 04:00:05 AM
you missed out on some delights in the first half though

Fuckin' irrelevant now though!
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2013, 04:00:07 AM
No real surprise you said that...cant even be bothered to call you a dick

Yeah, because then you'd be shown up for the know-nothing you are.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on September 25, 2013, 04:00:15 AM
Fucking hate this cup.
Always the same .

Anyhow - stuff Newcastle on Monday and I'll still be a happy chappy. (Just).
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 25, 2013, 04:00:31 AM
Nothing wrong with Bob's tactics or his team to me.

As I said after about 25 minutes, we had enough chances to have won 3 or 4 games, but as usual the finishing was fucking abysmal.  We never shoot and when we do get a decent cross in, nobody gambles on it.

Was just a matter of time til we gifted them something, we always do.

pretty much this
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: steve81 on September 25, 2013, 04:00:36 AM
Mirallas should have come on when the others did instead of 2 minutes from the end don't know why I get my hopes up we are never going to win this competition
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Rhys on September 25, 2013, 04:00:58 AM
Never understand why Howard doesn't always play, get might want to give Robles a game for development and keep him sharp as can but for me we could rest key players but resting main goalie is jut a step too far. Second goal not an error but bent was out wide, not a hard shot and not so close couldn't do anything about it. For me Howard wouldn't have let that goal in.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Geordie Blue on September 25, 2013, 04:01:00 AM
He does the same thing as Barkley, holding onto the ball too long, but he is so much greedier.

Every time he gets the ball he takes his man on, which worked in the first half when they weren't sure what he was going to do. Then their defenders just stood off him an extra yard and he couldn't blow by them with his pace. Lots to learn for him and despite all his talents you can see why he has been loaned to us as he is a long way away from being a top player with his current mentality.

That was one of the most breathtaking performances I've seen from a new young player in years. It made up for the defeat for me - the future is bright!
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 25, 2013, 04:02:02 AM
Never understand why Howard doesn't always play, get might want to give Robles a game for development and keep him sharp as can but for me we could rest key players but resting main goalie is jut a step too far. Second goal not an error but bent was out wide, not a hard shot and not so close couldn't do anything about it. For me Howard wouldn't have let that goal in.

most managers do it to be fair

Moyes did it, Ferguson did it, Wenger does it, Mourinho does it
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Geordie Blue on September 25, 2013, 04:02:45 AM
Its his defending that mattered to me today..or lack of it should I say.

should of dropped 10 yards and stood on Bent but failed to do so for Fulhams 2nd.

Left Coleman exposed for an hour until Martinez tweaked the system

Did you lift this from a Jose quote about Mata - I don't want someone that gifted worrying about defending.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 25, 2013, 04:03:19 AM
I don't rate Robles at all from what I've seen.

Their second goal was just abysmal all round.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2013, 04:03:58 AM
Too late though.

He got it right on Saturday, he got it wrong today. That's just the way football is, no manager will get it right every time.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on September 25, 2013, 04:04:25 AM
That was one of the most breathtaking performances I've seen from a new young player in years. It made up for the defeat for me - the future is bright!

The future?

You mean his future not at our club?

He probably does have a bright future, certainly if he learns from games like today he will. But to me he looks a long way from being anything more than a good option off the bench for us from time to time. Very exciting player but I am not sure he is going to provide us with much production this year.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 25, 2013, 04:04:26 AM
That was one of the most breathtaking performances I've seen from a new young player in years. It made up for the defeat for me - the future is bright!

The future is going back to Barcelona...
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: School of Science on September 25, 2013, 04:04:46 AM
Lets face it were not going to win every game and be honest we didn't play badly. Stones again impressive, Duelofeu was brilliant first half, going to be a great player, Fulham rode their luck. And again this is one competition we seem to be cursed in.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2013, 04:04:50 AM
Never understand why Howard doesn't always play, get might want to give Robles a game for development and keep him sharp as can but for me we could rest key players but resting main goalie is jut a step too far. Second goal not an error but bent was out wide, not a hard shot and not so close couldn't do anything about it. For me Howard wouldn't have let that goal in.

What was more alarming about him was his complete inability to deal with inswinging crosses.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on September 25, 2013, 04:05:15 AM
Disappointing to be knocked out of the cup but credit to Fulham, they played well and compared to the other teams we've played at the beginning of the season, they at least went for it and made the game a bit more open than in other games.

I'm actually quite pleased with our efforts today and especially with Martinez, things didn't quite pay off at the end but compared with the previous regime, I thought he made the right substitutions especially in defence where we had been looking quite porous before. I'm not exactly hold it against Martinez if we don't win anything this season especially as it is a transition period and he is still getting to know his squad and this kind of game was the perfect opportunity to test a different formation with some different personnel, some things worked, other things didn't, he'll learn from it and we will become much stronger as the season progresses.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 25, 2013, 04:05:17 AM
??????? They are his players.

They are indeed his players, and they showed that they were much better than the opposition but then got casual up front and lost concentration at the back. You cannot blame a manager for every individual error, whether it's not playing someone in for an easy goal or switching off at a free kick.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: The Good Citizen on September 25, 2013, 04:05:32 AM
Thought the subs were correct, if 60 seconds to late. We were being over run playing the ball out from the back. Once Jags and Barry were on we played the last 20 on the front foot. Lukaku spent too much time having to play with his back to goal, seemed to drop deep to collect it alot, would have preferred him up top. Deulofeu faded but pleased to see him stick at it and finish stronger.

Just played our way into trouble far to often, frustrating we could have hit the channels more as there was always an out ball on, why Lukaku has to drop into his own half to collect it of the defence.. Urgh.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 25, 2013, 04:05:36 AM
That was one of the most breathtaking performances I've seen from a new young player in years. It made up for the defeat for me - the future is bright!

Hmm, the futures not with us. Unfortunately the learning curve is though
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 25, 2013, 04:05:41 AM
Didn't see all the game. What did people make of McCarthy on his full debut?

Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: steve81 on September 25, 2013, 04:05:55 AM
Disappointing result & 2nd half performance. Nowhere near as disappointing as seeing some of shit spouted on here. Toolage.
right back at ya we are out of the cup and all you can say is disappointing no wonder we have done so poorly last 25 years as fans let it go
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 25, 2013, 04:06:04 AM
What was more alarming about him was his complete inability to deal with inswinging crosses.

he showed that at Accrington as well to be fair

at least he didn't have Jags to miscommunicate with all game though....
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on September 25, 2013, 04:06:19 AM
Did you lift this from a Jose quote about Mata - I don't want someone that gifted worrying about defending.

Every player should worry about defending.

You defend as a team, as a unit. The whole system falls apart when one player doesn't do their job and the others are pulled all over the park because of it. He is no where near talented enough to even consider not worrying about defending. Only Messi and Ronaldo can get away with that.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2013, 04:06:25 AM
Lets face it were not going to win every game and be honest we didn't play badly. Stones again impressive, Duelofeu was brilliant first half, going to be a great player, Fulham rode their luck. And again this is one competition we seem to be cursed in.

Apart from that one episode of ball-watching that led to the first goal. I'm not saying he could've stopped it but he certainly did nothing right during that move.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: efcforlife on September 25, 2013, 04:06:33 AM
Did you lift this from a Jose quote about Mata - I don't want someone that gifted worrying about defending.

are you actually serious.

It cost us the game.

Fulham are shite and they troubled us down our right all night,especially in the first hour.

If we leave coleman that isolated agaisnt better teams they will destroy us.(Fulham are shite). and we completely lose colemans effectivness goijng forward.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Amata on September 25, 2013, 04:07:14 AM
I personally don't think Martinez was to blame, the players dominated the first half and I think they thought they could come out and stroll through the 2nd as Fulham had offered nothing. 

Lukaku - Showed some superb touches but looked like he started to tire and the ball bounced off him once or twice, he also played a couple of under hit passes towards the end of the game.

Deulofeu - At times I wanted to stand and applaud his brilliance and other times I wanted to punch him in the face.  He is only young and unfortunately we will probably see a bit more of this from him, you can see why Barca loaned him out. However I do think today will have been a better test than Stevenage so hopefully he will have learned from it.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Eddie on September 25, 2013, 04:07:22 AM
Nothing wrong with Bob's tactics or his team to me.

As I said after about 25 minutes, we had enough chances to have won 3 or 4 games, but as usual the finishing was fucking abysmal.  We never shoot and when we do get a decent cross in, nobody gambles on it.

Was just a matter of time til we gifted them something, we always do.

I agree, I don't think we played as bad as some are suggesting. We pretty much punished ourselves for switching off defensively and lacking ruthlessness in front of goal. We were still the better team and would've converted some of them chances on another day.

Let's move on and look forward to Newcastle.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 04:07:28 AM
For as good as Jezza's dribbling and running was in the first half, most of his decision making was abysmal.  The amount of times he shot when he could have rolled someone in was ridiculous.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 25, 2013, 04:07:40 AM
What was more alarming about him was his complete inability to deal with inswinging crosses.

That's not a surprise if you watched him last season though is it?

The shocking part of that goal is that he couldn't close his legs quickly enough when a ball was hit at him from 10 yards away. That was poor, very fuckin poor
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Thom on September 25, 2013, 04:07:47 AM
Counter performance to Saturday's. Very good first half, lacklustre second half.

Some good performances on display but, as said, we paid for our lack of finishing, especially in the first 45. Berbatov was on his game tonight and it showed with the chances he created for himself and team mates.

It's annoying to see us out of the League Cup again, but we'll hopefully learn from this and take our frustration out on Newcastle in six days time.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2013, 04:08:02 AM
Didn't see all the game. What did people make of McCarthy on his full debut?

I still fail to see what the fuss about him is. A slightly stronger, slightly slower Osman.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Silas on September 25, 2013, 04:08:03 AM
Robles has been proper shit so far. Martinez's initial setup was fine, don't think he made the right changes but the game should have been over.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 25, 2013, 04:08:13 AM
For as good as Jezza's dribbling and running was in the first half, most of his decision making was abysmal.  The amount of times he shot when he could have rolled someone in was ridiculous.

and good decision making comes with experience

why do you think Barcelona are happy for him to come on loan to us?  Because they've just got one too many Lionel Messi's?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2013, 04:08:42 AM
That's not a surprise if you watched him last season though is it?

I take your word for it because I didn't watch him last season :)
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: The Good Citizen on September 25, 2013, 04:08:47 AM
Didn't see all the game. What did people make of McCarthy on his full debut?



Anonymous.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on September 25, 2013, 04:08:49 AM
Didn't see all the game. What did people make of McCarthy on his full debut?



Anonymous, gave the ball away a couple times, but decent overall.

Pretty much exactly what I think we paid for but we overpaid by about 6 million.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: krakkokain on September 25, 2013, 04:09:32 AM
Yeah, because then you'd be shown up for the know-nothing you are.

You make me laugh.... No i know nothing about getting behind my team and my manager.. You have had a stick up your ass since Martinez got the job and you cant wait to pull it out of your old stinky miserable ass and wave your shit around every time we lose-play bad!!
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 25, 2013, 04:10:18 AM
I take your word for it because I didn't watch him last season :)

His highlights reel on YouTube had it on them as his best bits as well..... :bonk:
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Eddie on September 25, 2013, 04:10:55 AM
You make me laugh.... No i know nothing about getting behind my team and my manager.. You have had a stick up your ass since Martinez got the job and you cant wait to pull it out of your old stinky miserable ass and wave your shit around every time we lose-play bad!!

 lolol
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2013, 04:11:46 AM
You make me laugh.... No i know nothing about getting behind my team and my manager.. You have had a stick up your ass since Martinez got the job and you cant wait to pull it out of your old stinky miserable ass and wave your shit around every time we lose-play bad!!

It seems like you're even thicker than I presumed you to be, which is no mean feat. Anyway, stick to getting behind the team and manager and leave the analysis for those of us in possession of a functioning brain.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Amata on September 25, 2013, 04:11:49 AM
lolol

Made me laugh too
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Optimistic Blue on September 25, 2013, 04:11:51 AM
Robles is only little, very very young for a keeper, hes a long term investment
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: steve81 on September 25, 2013, 04:12:08 AM
I still fail to see what the fuss about him is. A slightly stronger, slightly slower Osman.

fuck me he must be on crutches osmans as slow as anyone in the the prem
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Silas on September 25, 2013, 04:12:34 AM
Thought Stones was all over the place tonight. (Not in a good way) I think tonight illustrated that some of these players are fringe for a reason. 

Deulofeu has impact sub all over him rather than starter.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: efcforlife on September 25, 2013, 04:12:42 AM
For as good as Jezza's dribbling and running was in the first half, most of his decision making was abysmal.  The amount of times he shot when he could have rolled someone in was ridiculous.

He doesnt defend, all he does is make the odd token jesture of a jog towards the opposition player. Its fucking lazy.

he make as many bad decisions as he wants in the final third in a league cup game but to not defend at all and to not pick a man up whilst choosing to stand still and watch is unacceptable.

Bobby needs to knock that out of him.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 25, 2013, 04:12:47 AM
Robles is only little, very very young for a keeper, hes a long term investment

he's six foot five!!!
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: The Good Citizen on September 25, 2013, 04:13:09 AM
It's always the post match love in really enjoy at times like this.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueski on September 25, 2013, 04:13:49 AM
For as good as Jezza's dribbling and running was in the first half, most of his decision making was abysmal.  The amount of times he shot when he could have rolled someone in was ridiculous.
going to be a great player for sure, definitely showed that but lukaku is too good a player to be stood wide open with hands on hips from a good scoring angle while gerard shoots from a yard off the bye line through 2 defenders
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2013, 04:13:54 AM
fuck me he must be on crutches osmans as slow as anyone in the the prem

No, he's actually got quite a good burst of pace on the first five yards. McCarthy didn't show any of that today.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: steve81 on September 25, 2013, 04:13:57 AM
Robles is only little, very very young for a keeper, hes a long term investment
Robles is a poor mans mucha
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: duncandisorderly on September 25, 2013, 04:14:03 AM
It was like halves reversed from last Saturday, excellent 1st half and shit second. Bit worried about the inability to put in a performance for more than one half of football, can't remember a game where we've played well for two halves under Martinez.

Deulofeu was brilliant first half but second half trying to do too much, just like Barkley does at times, but they're both young and decision making will mature.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 25, 2013, 04:14:06 AM
he's six foot five!!!

Yeah but, Optimistic Blue is 7 ft 6
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Jimbo and the Jetset on September 25, 2013, 04:14:15 AM
Did anyone think McCarthy looked any better today?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: SpankRock on September 25, 2013, 04:14:46 AM
right back at ya we are out of the cup and all you can say is disappointing no wonder we have done so poorly last 25 years as fans let it go

Coming from the 'fan' who implies RM said "put your feet up" at HT and barely posts unless we're losing. Perfect competition for our manager to employ his theories (give minutes to the squad, maybe rest 1 or 2) and his tactics were clearly working very well first half (did you see that?).

All that aside, its the fucking league cup, to me I'd much rather we concentrated on the FA Cup and reaching a European place in the league, it seems many other proven managers agree with this.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: steve81 on September 25, 2013, 04:15:02 AM
Thought Stones was all over the place tonight. (Not in a good way) I think tonight illustrated that some of these players are fringe for a reason. 

Deulofeu has impact sub all over him rather than starter.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Silas on September 25, 2013, 04:15:14 AM
Deulofeu is only 19 though! Give the lad a break.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Ross on September 25, 2013, 04:15:14 AM
he's six foot five!!!

He's watching him on his tablet and it's very far away...
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2013, 04:15:28 AM
He doesnt defend, all he does is make the odd token jesture of a jog towards the opposition player. Its fucking lazy.

Some of that was due to what Martinez told him to do though. His job was to always stay close to Lukaku to be ready to break.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: steve81 on September 25, 2013, 04:16:35 AM
Coming from the 'fan' who implies RM said "put your feet up" at HT and barely posts unless we're losing. Perfect competition for our manager to employ his theories (give minutes to the squad, maybe rest 1 or 2) and his tactics were clearly working very well first half (did you see that?).

All that aside, its the fucking league cup, to me I'd much rather we concentrated on the FA Cup and reaching a European place in the league, it seems many other proven managers agree with this.
I want silverware 7 place in the league gets you nowhere
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueski on September 25, 2013, 04:16:36 AM
Robles is a poor mans mucha
bit early to go that far but it wasn't a good performance by any measure
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Rhys on September 25, 2013, 04:17:08 AM
most managers do it to be fair

Moyes did it, Ferguson did it, Wenger does it, Mourinho does it

They do, still don't get it for us though. Mourinho, wenger can etc because the rest of the team is normally superior than the opposition. However away at another prem team just feel your main goalie can make a huge difference and would have done for the bent shot.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: efcforlife on September 25, 2013, 04:17:30 AM
Deulofeu is only 19 though! Give the lad a break.

you have to do the basics right though, and defending and marking on a set piece is pretty fucking basic.

age has no relevence to my point.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueski on September 25, 2013, 04:18:03 AM
Deulofeu is only 19 though! Give the lad a break.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Eddie on September 25, 2013, 04:18:49 AM
It's always the post match love in really enjoy at times like this.

It's more entertaining than the football! Some of the things people come out with is comedy gold. What makes me laugh about it all is there's never this bickering in the boozer after the match...disagreements (if any) are always much more amicable. Opinions of the game always seem to be quite similar too....I wonder if some individuals have watched the same game on here sometimes!

Good stuff!
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 04:19:02 AM
and good decision making comes with experience

why do you think Barcelona are happy for him to come on loan to us?  Because they've just got one too many Lionel Messi's?

Indeed.  Unfortunately, I don't think we'll be seeing as much of him as people have been hoping for.  Lukaku was looking well pissed off with him by the end of the 1st half.

No we're out of the Carling Cup, think it'll be 5 minute cameo's when we are a few goals up. 
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2013, 04:19:57 AM
you have to do the basics right though, and defending and marking on a set piece is pretty fucking basic.

Not at Barca it ain't.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: efcforlife on September 25, 2013, 04:20:37 AM
Some of that was due to what Martinez told him to do though. His job was to always stay close to Lukaku to be ready to break.

I cant agree.. there is no way Martinez has told his right back to tuck in and for the player playing on the right of midfield to leave a huge fucking gap filled by a goalscorer.

we were defending a dangerous set piece and in all honesty he was nowhere near Lukaku either.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Silas on September 25, 2013, 04:21:59 AM
you have to do the basics right though, and defending and marking on a set piece is pretty fucking basic.

age has no relevence to my point.


You do and your right but age and inexperience is very relevant to all of that.  Especially when you haven't had to think about then drifting through a barca b team
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Geordie Blue on September 25, 2013, 04:22:21 AM
are you actually serious.

It cost us the game.

Fulham are shite and they troubled us down our right all night,especially in the first hour.

If we leave coleman that isolated agaisnt better teams they will destroy us.(Fulham are shite). and we completely lose colemans effectivness goijng forward.

Absolutely serious - very surprised that anyone would consider  the key point from his performance could be that he needs to learn to defend!

It would be like seeing Jags put in a brilliant defendive display then slagging him off for not being able to play a ten yard pass forward under pressure.

The two goals were soft and the defence should have stopped one if not both.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: DannyR on September 25, 2013, 04:22:38 AM
This is the most grim tube trip ever

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Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 04:22:49 AM
going to be a great player for sure, definitely showed that but lukaku is too good a player to be stood wide open with hands on hips from a good scoring angle while gerard shoots from a yard off the bye line through 2 defenders

Said that in my last post bud
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: efcforlife on September 25, 2013, 04:23:18 AM
Not at Barca it ain't.

Isnt it?? do you watch Barca?

Barca defend set pieces as good as any team on the planet.

they win the ball back from the opposition and defend better than most teams you can think off.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 25, 2013, 04:24:14 AM
I think RM could be blamed if the system wasn't working, or if the players picked were getting beaten and out of their depth, but let's be fair neither of those things were true....quite the opposite.

So then you have to look at the players and say they were to blame. It's not a huge deal. I don't mean blame in a reactionary, over the top way. People make errors, and you hope they learn and improve in that area, but there's no harm or shame in criticising players for a bad performance, or for turning an easy victory into a fairly toothless defeat.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2013, 04:24:15 AM
I cant agree.. there is no way Martinez has told his right back to tuck in and for the player playing on the right of midfield to leave a huge fucking gap filled by a goalscorer.

we were defending a dangerous set piece and in all honesty he was nowhere near Lukaku either.

He was near Lukaku every time we broke, and we did it a lot.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: efcforlife on September 25, 2013, 04:27:33 AM
Absolutely serious - very surprised that anyone would consider  the key point from his performance could be that he needs to learn to defend!

It would be like seeing Jags put in a brilliant defendive display then slagging him off for not being able to play a ten yard pass forward under pressure.

The two goals were soft and the defence should have stopped one if not both.

Wow
You do and your right but age and inexperience is very relevant to all of that.  Especially when you haven't had to think about then drifting through a barca b team

you can only blame him, its a pretty simple.

he hasnt listened to an instruction as far as I can see, and age has nothing to do with listening.

Unless Martinez has told him to position himself there which is highly unlikely.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2013, 04:27:46 AM
Isnt it?? do you watch Barca?

Barca defend set pieces as good as any team on the planet.

they win the ball back from the opposition and defend better than most teams you can think off.

No, they don't defend set-pieces particularly well and their players only learn it very late in their development compared to say England. I'd say their set-piece defending is adequate, good enough for the few times they actually need it but nothing more.

What they do do well is pressing right after they lose the ball, and that's something he tried too. Unfortunately that has to be a team effort.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Silas on September 25, 2013, 04:29:09 AM
Wow
you can only blame him, its a pretty simple.

he hasnt listened to an instruction as far as I can see, and age has nothing to do with listening.

Unless Martinez has told him to position himself there which is highly unlikely.

I think they both take blame since Martinez kept him on the pitch. 
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: efcforlife on September 25, 2013, 04:29:34 AM
He was near Lukaku every time we broke, and we did it a lot.

not on that set piece he wasnt. he was standing in no mans land watching.

Im not debating just to a fuel an argument for you.

he should of been picking Bent up and didnt, its not rocket science.

Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2013, 04:29:38 AM
I think RM could be blamed if the system wasn't working, or if the players picked were getting beaten and out of their depth, but let's be fair neither of those things were true....quite the opposite.

Well, it was certainly the case for Gibson in the second half.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Fern on September 25, 2013, 04:30:16 AM
I think RM could be blamed if the system wasn't working, or if the players picked were getting beaten and out of their depth, but let's be fair neither of those things were true....quite the opposite.

So then you have to look at the players and say they were to blame. It's not a huge deal. I don't mean blame in a reactionary, over the top way. People make errors, and you hope they learn and improve in that area, but there's no harm or shame in criticising players for a bad performance, or for turning an easy victory into a fairly toothless defeat.

If this was Moyes he would be blamed. Nocut and edge. Our finishing will cost us games if we dont address it soon.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2013, 04:32:27 AM
not on that set piece he wasnt. he was standing in no mans land watching.

You keep banging on about that one set-piece as if that was the whole game. I'm talking about his positioning in open play.

he should of been picking Bent up and didnt, its not rocket science.

Wasn't it Gibson who reacted late and failed to block?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2013, 04:33:23 AM
I don't really get why people want to blame someone that much in the first place.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Geordie Blue on September 25, 2013, 04:33:39 AM
Wow
you can only blame him, its a pretty simple.

he hasnt listened to an instruction as far as I can see, and age has nothing to do with listening.

Unless Martinez has told him to position himself there which is highly unlikely.

Clearly your priorities differ from mine that is the joy of football and this forum - same game - different perspective.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueski on September 25, 2013, 04:34:35 AM
Said that in my last post bud
agreeing with you!
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: efcforlife on September 25, 2013, 04:35:04 AM
No, they don't defend set-pieces particularly well and their players only learn it very late in their development compared to say England. I'd say their set-piece defending is adequate, good enough for the few times they actually need it but nothing more.

What they do do well is pressing right after they lose the ball, and that's something he tried too. Unfortunately that has to be a team effort.

They do defend them really well, you must love your media you.

they dont defend the diagnal ball on to their full backs very well but in general their set piece defending is superb.

Gerard should of picked Bent up and he didnt. It lost us the game.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 25, 2013, 04:35:53 AM
I don't really get why people want to blame someone that much in the first place.


'Blame' maybe sounds exaggerated and overly negative in a lot of situations. It's semantics, but maybe exchange 'blame' for 'take responsibility for' or something similar.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: efcforlife on September 25, 2013, 04:36:01 AM
I don't really get why people want to blame someone that much in the first place.



we lost the game because of it
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Confucius on September 25, 2013, 04:36:42 AM
LOL!! I love matchday threads. Winning the league and damn sexy to useless and terrible and relegated all in one thread. You guys are amazing. Thank you for the entertainment.

But really boys. You expect a 19 year old foreign kid to come out and be perfect after having maybe 20 minutes all season. You expect a GK who is very young to be brilliant having hardly played. You expect a new signing to be dynamic and amazing in his second game. I really wonder if anybody watches football on here.

We played away with a very young team at a decent premier league team and we just got beat. On another day we would win easily. These things happen.

It's disappointing to be out but at the same time it's a good lesson for all the youngsters and especially the manager about his players.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on September 25, 2013, 04:36:46 AM
If this was Moyes he would be blamed. Nocut and edge. Our finishing will cost us games if we dont address it soon.

Indeed,it's not like we scored 3 goals to win 3pts the other day!
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: efcforlife on September 25, 2013, 04:37:05 AM
You keep banging on about that one set-piece as if that was the whole game. I'm talking about his positioning in open play.

Wasn't it Gibson who reacted late and failed to block?

Bent recieved the ball with no one around him. Gerard should of stood on him.

Gibson had too much ground to travel to stop the shot.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on September 25, 2013, 04:38:33 AM
Absolutely serious - very surprised that anyone would consider  the key point from his performance could be that he needs to learn to defend!

It would be like seeing Jags put in a brilliant defendive display then slagging him off for not being able to play a ten yard pass forward under pressure.

The two goals were soft and the defence should have stopped one if not both.

Wow really? He shouldn't have to defend? Since when has any player ever been told they don't have to defend?

And the comparison to Jags is absolutely ridiculous. No Jags doesn't need to be scoring goals or providing a threat going forward but he does need to do his job offensively which is generally distribute the ball out wide or to a central midfield.

He better learn to defend or he won't be getting in the squad any time soon and rightfully so.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 25, 2013, 04:39:23 AM
On another day we would win easily

We never do though.  We are Everton and never do anything the easy way
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Confucius on September 25, 2013, 04:39:45 AM
If this was Moyes he would be blamed. Nocut and edge. Our finishing will cost us games if we dont address it soon.

I agree, we should just by a striker tomorrow. That will fix the problem... Oh wait.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: steve81 on September 25, 2013, 04:40:21 AM
LOL!! I love matchday threads. Winning the league and damn sexy to useless and terrible and relegated all in one thread. You guys are amazing. Thank you for the entertainment.

But really boys. You expect a 19 year old foreign kid to come out and be perfect after having maybe 20 minutes all season. You expect a GK who is very young to be brilliant having hardly played. You expect a new signing to be dynamic and amazing in his second game. I really wonder if anybody watches football on here.

We played away with a very young team at a decent premier league team and we just got beat. On another day we would win easily. These things happen.

It's disappointing to be out but at the same time it's a good lesson for all the youngsters and especially the manager about his players.
chance to win silverware fucked up yet again that's what's pissed me off more than anything
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Silas on September 25, 2013, 04:40:36 AM
They do defend them really well, you must love your media you.

they dont defend the diagnal ball on to their full backs very well but in general their set piece defending is superb.

Gerard should of picked Bent up and he didnt. It lost us the game.

Nowhere near as straightforward as that.  You could as easily attribute colemans last minute miss as the reason.  It's cumulative and it was a poor team performance second half Gerard included.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Confucius on September 25, 2013, 04:41:13 AM
We never do though.  We are Everton and never do anything the easy way

The other day was West Ham
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: efcforlife on September 25, 2013, 04:41:22 AM
LOL!! I love matchday threads. Winning the league and damn sexy to useless and terrible and relegated all in one thread. You guys are amazing. Thank you for the entertainment.

But really boys. You expect a 19 year old foreign kid to come out and be perfect after having maybe 20 minutes all season. You expect a GK who is very young to be brilliant having hardly played. You expect a new signing to be dynamic and amazing in his second game. I really wonder if anybody watches football on here.

We played away with a very young team at a decent premier league team and we just got beat. On another day we would win easily. These things happen.

It's disappointing to be out but at the same time it's a good lesson for all the youngsters and especially the manager about his players.

expect to be perfect? absoltely not.

I loved Gerards exciting breaks and movement and making mistakes and giving the ball away is a learning curve and thats why he's here.

I do want him to defend on set pieces though or at least stand in front of your man and have the awareness that a man is free in your box.

Id expect the latter in the conference.

Robles played o.k for me. Didnt have much to do.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 25, 2013, 04:44:15 AM
Nowhere near as straightforward as that.  You could as easily attribute colemans last minute miss as the reason.  It's cumulative and it was a poor team performance second half Gerard included.

I still can't believe Coleman missed that. It wasn't even going in when the keeper got it. He passed it back across goal.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2013, 04:46:25 AM
Bent recieved the ball with no one around him. Gerard should of stood on him.

Gibson had too much ground to travel to stop the shot.

Which to me seems to imply that Gibson was in the wrong place, as he was marking the territory where Bent was.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2013, 04:47:45 AM
It's disappointing to be out but at the same time it's a good lesson for all the youngsters and especially the manager about his players.

Expect krakkokain to come down on you in a minute with all the might of his intellect :)
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 25, 2013, 04:50:15 AM
I hope we best Newcastle 9-0 now and make this loss worthwhile.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Eddie on September 25, 2013, 04:51:14 AM
Expect krakkokain to come down on you in a minute with all the might of his intellect :)

Will you stop waving your shit stick at everyone Major Clanger! The shit is going everywhere. ;)
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2013, 04:51:42 AM
Okay, I've just looked that free kick back to see once again what happened.

http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/2-1-fulham-darren-bent-v-everton/ (http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/2-1-fulham-darren-bent-v-everton/)

I can now say with 100% certainty that it WASN'T Deulofeu's job to mark Bent. His task was to mark the area in front of their number 15. It was Gibson, who stayed too close to the middle.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2013, 04:53:01 AM
I hope we best Newcastle 9-0 now and make this loss worthwhile.

1-0 will do :)

It's a shame we dropped out though as we've lost valuable match time for some of our youngsters and fringe players.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Confucius on September 25, 2013, 04:55:08 AM
Expect krakkokain to come down on you in a minute with all the might of his intellect :)

I am expecting a slight dribble.... I mean drizzle
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: edbootle on September 25, 2013, 04:55:22 AM
Anyone know what time this game starts. Is it on TV. :whistle:
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on September 25, 2013, 04:55:27 AM
Okay, I've just looked that free kick back to see once again what happened.

http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/2-1-fulham-darren-bent-v-everton/ (http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/2-1-fulham-darren-bent-v-everton/)

I can now say with 100% certainty that it WASN'T Deulofeu's job to mark Bent. His task was to mark the area in front of their number 15. It was Gibson, who stayed too close to the middle.


Actually it looks to me like there needed to be an extra player in there. Not that it really matters, no point in nit picking. We as a team were poor today, the team put out was capable of winning. Lets just hope we can put it behind us and push on against newcastle
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on September 25, 2013, 04:57:03 AM
Gibbo deffo fell asleep at the free kick , just seemed no organisation altogether at that set piece thou,
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2013, 04:57:31 AM
Actually it looks to me like there needed to be an extra player in there.

Gibson about three yards to the right and whoever was to the left of him likewise. But as you say, it's water under the bridge now, I'm sure Roberto will analyse the fuck out of the situation far better than we could and the team will learn from it.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 25, 2013, 05:00:10 AM
1-0 will do :)

It's a shame we dropped out though as we've lost valuable match time for some of our youngsters and fringe players.

No, 9-0 and no less.

I hate Newcastle more than Deulofeu.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Eddie on September 25, 2013, 05:00:31 AM
Delete.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 25, 2013, 05:07:12 AM
Looks like I am lucky the match wasn't on tv in the US after all.  Oh well, one less thing to keep track of during the workweek.  Let's focus on the league table, it really is wide open for once.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: efcforlife on September 25, 2013, 05:10:10 AM
Okay, I've just looked that free kick back to see once again what happened.

http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/2-1-fulham-darren-bent-v-everton/ (http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/2-1-fulham-darren-bent-v-everton/)

I can now say with 100% certainty that it WASN'T Deulofeu's job to mark Bent. His task was to mark the area in front of their number 15. It was Gibson, who stayed too close to the middle.


Fulhams number 35 left back is not involved in fulhams attacking set piece. He doesn't need marking. He doesn't even need to be considered.

In a defensive set up for a set piece Gerard should be dropping a few yards and sitting in the space Bent is occupying.

In hindsight Gibson should get out to the man quicker but it wasn't his man, Gerard's reaction when the goal goes in seems to suggest it too although admittedly he may just of been disappointed anyway.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Confucius on September 25, 2013, 05:10:40 AM
Nickknowsfootsies is gonna be pissed.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: the_sas_orange on September 25, 2013, 05:11:27 AM
that goal is dog shit goal keeping from rouble
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Eddie on September 25, 2013, 05:14:07 AM
Nickknowsfootsies is gonna be pissed.

Fucking Ev-er-ton maaaan!
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 25, 2013, 05:16:01 AM
Nickknowsfootsies is gonna be pissed.

He is blaming berbatov apparently

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Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Eddie on September 25, 2013, 05:17:05 AM
He is blaming berbatov apparently

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Makes sense.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Les Trebilcock on September 25, 2013, 05:17:52 AM

 Berbatov is a fag.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: keiko on September 25, 2013, 05:17:58 AM
a predicable reaction by some people,  understandable when u think how long some have been sharpening their knife... let it out. but a loss is a loss, i know. but  bad defending though, the goalie will be disappointed about the nut meg. some good play though, I enjoy the passing style, a lot of pressure at the end, but time ran out, it happens. fulham aren't very good. gibson was tired. i'll let you get back to going over this in your heads. good luck
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Confucius on September 25, 2013, 05:19:59 AM
Makes sense.

It's Bent though....


I like what i did there


Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: hill135 on September 25, 2013, 05:21:44 AM

It's a shame we dropped out though as we've lost valuable match time for some of our youngsters and fringe players.

This. These games have to be used for rotation and trying out new tactical concepts. How else are our young players like Stones expected to retain fitness, get used to the system, and ultimately to improve as players?

Rotating your squad while retaining a team strong enough to win is a difficult balancing act, and it's one I think Martinez got more or less right today. The players simply didn't play well enough.

Martinez saw the game was getting away from us and made a change to 3-5-2 which gave us more control and more in attack. It was the right change to make, it's just bad luck that they scored as they change was pending.

Last observation. What struck me was Deulofeu's one-footedness which I thought hindered us in the attacking phase. Not his fault of course, but a bit surprising from a kid from Barca's academy where technique is fetishised.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 25, 2013, 05:23:20 AM
I've just retweeted the link to the video but can't post it on here on my phone

Someone give the people what they need tonight!

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Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: efcforlife on September 25, 2013, 05:25:01 AM
a predicable reaction by some people,  understandable when u think how long some have been sharpening their knife... let it out. but a loss is a loss, i know. but  bad defending though, the goalie will be disappointed about the nut meg. some good play though, I enjoy the passing style, a lot of pressure at the end, but time ran out, it happens. fulham aren't very good. gibson was tired. i'll let you get back to going over this in your heads. good luck

I've got an image of Martinez sitting there with a knife whilst taking a team meeting in my head now.

I like Everton a lot, and I love analysing performances good and bad. That's what a football fan is isn't it?
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Confucius on September 25, 2013, 05:27:07 AM
I've got an image of Martinez sitting there with a knife whilst taking a team meeting in my head now.

I like Everton a lot, and I love analysing performances good and bad. That's what a football fan is isn't it?


It sure is but you also have to use less emotion at times and try to think clearly
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Eddie on September 25, 2013, 05:27:29 AM
http://youtu.be/xQM1Wx7rO6g?ac (http://youtu.be/xQM1Wx7rO6g?ac)

I almost quit my job! Haha.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Confucius on September 25, 2013, 05:28:44 AM
One thing i have realized is that we realy do need Baines to score 2 free kicks a game from here on in if we going to make it into the Champion's League
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2013, 05:33:53 AM
Last observation. What struck me was Deulofeu's one-footedness which I thought hindered us in the attacking phase. Not his fault of course, but a bit surprising from a kid from Barca's academy where technique is fetishised.

He can shoot with either foot but otherwise he's like Robben in a rear-view mirror.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Confucius on September 25, 2013, 05:42:51 AM
He can shoot with either foot but otherwise he's like Robben in a rear-view mirror.

I wish he was like Robben. He was Robben 1st half and Downing 2nd half
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Gash on September 25, 2013, 05:45:39 AM
I like Everton a lot, and I love analysing performances good and bad. That's what a football fan is isn't it?

True, except you're one of the people who only appears after a bad performance and not the good ones.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on September 25, 2013, 05:50:57 AM
I wish he was like Robben. He was Robben 1st half and Downing 2nd half

Robben wasn't any better at his age.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: bluestevie on September 25, 2013, 05:51:04 AM
Listened to the game on City, then watched the goals on SSN. Didn't think were that bad but the goals we conceded were shite and once again we failed to kill a game when on top. Still rather our first defeat happened tonight rather than Monday against the Toon
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 25, 2013, 06:21:38 AM
Still, at least it wasn't a Brentford or Leeds we lost to.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 25, 2013, 07:02:14 AM
That was one of the most breathtaking performances I've seen from a new young player in years. It made up for the defeat for me - the future is bright!

well he will be gone next season so not that bright
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 25, 2013, 07:13:56 AM
proper wound up, who cares if people have emotions regarding the result? and dont try the whole, "its only football thing" cos that really fucks me off.

We played the wrong team, with too many changes and were punished. Yes we are unbeaten but this stupid fucking passing around the back is bullshit and lpool, chelsea, city, arsenal, etc will beat the crap out of us when we play them. too many scary moments with that system. I like roberto but wrong subs in my opinion.

however, focusing on the league now. and back to my drink.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Glory on September 25, 2013, 09:29:15 AM
lpool, chelsea, city, arsenal, etc will beat the crap out of us when we play them. too many scary moments with that system.
Chelsea says hi.

Get a fucking grip.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 25, 2013, 01:50:31 PM
It's more than a shame, it's massively wasteful. Obviously it's not easy to win a trophy, but if the draw is favourable you can find yourself in the final/semis without having to play anyone that difficult and then there's a very good chance you might actually win something and/or be in Europe, which is hugely important to the development of existing players.

We slave all season long to try to get into the top 4/5 to hopefully get European football, raise our profile, make it easier to attract better players and that's unbelievably difficult for us, given our resources and we often just miss out. And yet this competition is a short cut to success, to Europe....and we continue to bow out lamely and say 'oh well'.

So I think people have every right to be pretty fucked off, whilst also being aware that there were plenty of positives from different players.
 
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 25, 2013, 02:15:33 PM
Chelsea says hi.

Get a fucking grip.

tell them i dont say Hi back...
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: MRB85 on September 25, 2013, 03:56:42 PM
It's more than a shame, it's massively wasteful. Obviously it's not easy to win a trophy, but if the draw is favourable you can find yourself in the final/semis without having to play anyone that difficult and then there's a very good chance you might actually win something and/or be in Europe, which is hugely important to the development of existing players.

We slave all season long to try to get into the top 4/5 to hopefully get European football, raise our profile, make it easier to attract better players and that's unbelievably difficult for us, given our resources and we often just miss out. And yet this competition is a short cut to success, to Europe....and we continue to bow out lamely and say 'oh well'.

So I think people have every right to be pretty fucked off, whilst also being aware that there were plenty of positives from different players.
 

The best summary by far.  Wasteful indeed -- and disrespectful to the massive away support on the night.
Title: Re: Fulham v Everton
Post by: jonni on September 25, 2013, 04:32:12 PM
Just wondering how many people thought at half-time, after 45 minutes of bossing the game, that Martinez had picked the wrong team?