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Title: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Confucius on August 31, 2021, 01:08:58 PM
Please put everything in here regarding rumours tweets etc. Be hard to track it all in multiple threads. Hope that’s ok Mods?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: kerryblue boy on August 31, 2021, 01:15:48 PM
I’m expecting rondon and Patterson and possibly another midfielder I’m probably expecting too much
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Coyney83 on August 31, 2021, 01:19:13 PM
I’m guessing…

Incoming:
Diaz/A.N.Other winger (perm)
Rondon (perm)
A RB with EPL experience (loan)
Longstaff (loan)

Outgoings:
Kean (loan to perm)
Nkounkou (loan to perm)
James (loan)
Gomes (loan)
Kenny (loan)
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Robioto on August 31, 2021, 01:20:11 PM
Copied from Diaz thread...

Morning everyone, I'll get us going - says we'll try again today:

https://twitter.com/PSierraR/status/1432557236488966144
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Robioto on August 31, 2021, 01:27:35 PM
I'm expecting Rondon as a minimum, anything else will be a bonus. Fingers crossed
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: fubarruk on August 31, 2021, 01:30:45 PM
Rondon in, possibly a journeyman RB on loan, that'll be our lot.

James and Kean out,

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: brap2 on August 31, 2021, 01:37:22 PM
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/6ed21386-1f55-4328-9551-efc2098aa2ab
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TrevorSteven on August 31, 2021, 01:49:37 PM
Dont think it is gonna be too many surprises today.

The club will probably try to offload Rodriguez, Kean, Delph, Kenny and Nkounkou (loan)
If it will be any surprise outgouings it would be Gomes or Mina.

I guess they will succeed at offloading Rodriguez and Kean.

Will be surprised if we see many incomings but the ones we see I guess will be players with Premier League experience, between 25-31 years of age and on pretty short contracts.

They will for sure sign a striker as Kean leaves and DCL has an injury and Rondon looks most likely. Kenny only leaves if we get in a right back.

After the deadline I guess we will have a "weaker" team when it comes to talent and reputation but "stronger" when it comes to what kind of mentality Benitez wants at the club.

My dream would be the signing of Bissouma from Brighton. The best player by far that may be possible for teams below the richest clubs to get. Just hope he doesnt end up at West Ham, Arsenal or Tottenham. He would be a salvation for us.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Trowel on August 31, 2021, 02:11:01 PM
Bye
https://twitter.com/juventusfcen/status/1432599299691585536
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: kerryblue boy on August 31, 2021, 02:11:45 PM
Good deal for kean
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Robioto on August 31, 2021, 02:14:10 PM
Good luck to him, I think he's going to need it, I'm glad he's finally gone.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: velimski on August 31, 2021, 02:16:21 PM
So does this deal have an option or obligation to buy after the 2 year loan?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Robioto on August 31, 2021, 02:17:32 PM
So is this have an option or obligation to buy after the 2 year load?

https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/1432602839184969730
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cassius on August 31, 2021, 02:18:15 PM
So does deal this have an option or obligation to buy after the 2 year loan?

On the BBC it said two year deal worth £6m and then option to buy at £24m.

This is going to turn into a Yobo situation where we'll be fucked over in two years.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary Todd on August 31, 2021, 02:21:59 PM
Kean gone back to juve won't be missed disappointing really had high hopes for him before he kicked a ball and he didn't kick many of them for us

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Lazarou on August 31, 2021, 02:22:48 PM
Desperate stuff all round, glad to see the back of him though.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GLewis on August 31, 2021, 02:29:00 PM
On the BBC it said two year deal worth £6m and then option to buy at £24m.

This is going to turn into a Yobo situation where we'll be fucked over in two years.

It’s a performance related “obligation” which the story doing the rounds suggested was qualification for the CL.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: velimski on August 31, 2021, 02:30:15 PM
On the BBC it said two year deal worth £6m and then option to buy at £24m.

This is going to turn into a Yobo situation where we'll be fucked over in two years.

Only becomes an obligation if certain objectives are met. No mention anywhere what those objectives are 😬
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on August 31, 2021, 02:30:28 PM
Kean out, Rondon in. Otherwise we'll go with what we've got.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: ajax_andy on August 31, 2021, 02:31:37 PM
Goodbye, good riddance, hope the door doesn't hit you on the way out, but actually not too disappointed if it does
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: stirlingblue on August 31, 2021, 02:32:22 PM
On the BBC it said two year deal worth £6m and then option to buy at £24m.

This is going to turn into a Yobo situation where we'll be fucked over in two years.

The BBC is no longer the reputable source it used to be, I’d wait until we hear something direct from one of the journalists close to the club.

Or we can judge on our incomings today, if we spend more than ~£15m then it must be an obligation rather than option
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TrevorSteven on August 31, 2021, 02:39:38 PM
Kean gone makes me sad as I think we have lost a future star but in a pragmatic way that means we will get in a striker that will have the chance and faith of the management of the club and actually play some matches...probably gonna be Rondon.

If Everton sold Kean and does not bring in a striker today I think everyone will be shocked but I dont think it will be any exciting striker. Rondon is fair enough.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Lazarou on August 31, 2021, 02:40:51 PM
From Alan Myers

Kean numbers:
Two-year loan deal worth 7 million euros.
Permanent deal worth 28 million euros.
Bonuses 3 million euros
Total: 38M euros
Title: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: stirlingblue on August 31, 2021, 02:44:39 PM
So what are the possibilities today? From what I've seen on the rumour front I'd say:

Most likely:

RB: Either Patterson permanent or AMN on loan
ST: Rondon, or maybe hijack the Edouard deal.

Maybe possible:

CM: Longstaff
RW/LW: Diaz, McNeil

Longshots:

RB: Max Aarons
CM/AM: Barkley, Damsgaard, Lingard
RW/LW: CHO, Jérémie Boga, Jeremy Doku
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Macca77 on August 31, 2021, 02:51:13 PM
Rondon in
Few out on loan
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Bluedylan on August 31, 2021, 02:52:58 PM
So what are the possibilities today? From what I’ve seen on the rumour front I’d say:

Most likely:

RB: Either Patterson permanent or ESM on loan


AMN for RB not ESM.

Doubtful we could get CHO (or even ASM) to play behind DCL.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cassius on August 31, 2021, 02:54:12 PM
The BBC is no longer the reputable source it used to be, I’d wait until we hear something direct from one of the journalists close to the club.

Or we can judge on our incomings today, if we spend more than ~£15m then it must be an obligation rather than option

The BBC said it read this from the statement but option and obligation may be misinterpreted.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: doolally on August 31, 2021, 02:56:15 PM
We can safely rule Patterson out. He’s self isolating till Wednesday and won’t be able to sign even if we did agree a deal with Rangers. The thought of Kenny as our back up till January is grim though as he’s just not at the required level we need
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Macca77 on August 31, 2021, 02:56:20 PM
AMN for RB not ESM.

Doubtful we could get CHO (or even ASM) to play behind DCL.

Like an episode of countdown
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: stirlingblue on August 31, 2021, 02:57:49 PM
AMN for RB not ESM.

Doubtful we could get CHO (or even ASM) to play behind DCL.

I’d like to blame autocorrect, but it could just be my inability to deal with all the abbreviations.

Damn parents being too scared to upset either parent by just picking a name
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary Todd on August 31, 2021, 03:01:03 PM
AMN for RB not ESM.

Doubtful we could get CHO (or even ASM) to play behind DCL.
WTF LOL

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary Todd on August 31, 2021, 03:03:52 PM
West ham sign vlasic hahaha pants

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Macca77 on August 31, 2021, 03:07:47 PM
We get a free quid from the Vlasic deal
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: D_murph on August 31, 2021, 03:13:14 PM
West ham sign vlasic hahaha pants

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Good signing that. He's turned into a cracking player.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: velimski on August 31, 2021, 03:13:51 PM
WLTM NS w/ GSOH.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TheRam on August 31, 2021, 03:18:21 PM
Permission to ban the phrase FFP from this thread?

Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary Todd on August 31, 2021, 03:19:22 PM
Good signing that. He's turned into a cracking player.
Only time will tell back in the prem see what he does

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Robioto on August 31, 2021, 03:19:30 PM
I think the Lingard speculation will pop back up again now West Ham have signed Vlasic, whether substantiated or not.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Macca77 on August 31, 2021, 03:20:01 PM
Hope this fella has brought his pen to work today
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: dunkster on August 31, 2021, 03:26:58 PM
Will be an interesting day today for sure
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary Todd on August 31, 2021, 03:28:23 PM
Lookman gets around a bit doesn't he good signing that though for Leicester

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary Todd on August 31, 2021, 03:39:39 PM
All those man utd fans out there grabbing there tissues to clean up the mess don't get carried away he's 36 years old won't be the player he was and I will run around my local area stark bollock naked until I get arrested if they win the league

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on August 31, 2021, 03:41:37 PM
Please put everything in here regarding rumours tweets etc. Be hard to track it all in multiple threads. Hope that’s ok Mods?


how did you get a pin so easily, I've been campaigning for my Summer Transfers thread to be pinned two summers now and nothing, just favouritism that  lolol
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cozzie on August 31, 2021, 03:42:35 PM
Netted a few £ for the Vlasic deal haven't we?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: stirlingblue on August 31, 2021, 03:51:26 PM
All those man utd fans out there grabbing there tissues to clean up the mess don't get carried away he's 36 years old won't be the player he was and I will run around my local area stark bollock naked until I get arrested if they win the league

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Still back him to score 20+ in the league this year
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TrevorSteven on August 31, 2021, 03:51:46 PM
Lookman gets around a bit doesn't he good signing that though for Leicester

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Leicester always do great deals. Lookman has the potential to be fantastic. Would have loved him back at Everton
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary1878 on August 31, 2021, 03:55:18 PM
Spurs are trying to sign Adama Traore for £50m. HA!

The man who is as fast as Usain Bolt but as good as a 2 year old at doing anything with the ball. In actual fact, you may as well just sign Usain Bolt on the wing - heard he is a half decent footballer.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GLewis on August 31, 2021, 03:57:04 PM
https://twitter.com/johncrossmirror/status/1432627779447758848?s=
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Robioto on August 31, 2021, 03:59:48 PM
https://twitter.com/johncrossmirror/status/1432627779447758848?s=

WTF is wrong with Arteta and Arsenal. Unbelievable if true.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Risky on August 31, 2021, 04:00:30 PM
There's something really odd going on at Arsenal at the moment
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TrevorSteven on August 31, 2021, 04:01:29 PM
Spurs are trying to sign Adama Traore for £50m. HA!

The man who is as fast as Usain Bolt but as good as a 2 year old at doing anything with the ball. In actual fact, you may as well just sign Usain Bolt on the wing - heard he is a half decent footballer.

His main problem is not what he does with the ball because that can be pure magic - it is his lack of consistency. Against United he gave all of them a nightmare. Qualityplayer but due to lack of consistency he is also a luxuryplayer - way too expensive at 50M
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TheRam on August 31, 2021, 04:02:10 PM
They're beyond a shambles.

Worst run club in the league by a long way.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TrevorSteven on August 31, 2021, 04:03:40 PM
They're beyond a shambles.

Worst run club in the league by a long way.

Nice for us that they push us down that list...Arteta gonna loose his job.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on August 31, 2021, 04:04:21 PM
Spurs are trying to sign Adama Traore for £50m. HA!

The man who is as fast as Usain Bolt but as good as a 2 year old at doing anything with the ball. In actual fact, you may as well just sign Usain Bolt on the wing - heard he is a half decent footballer.

especially when they could have had Daniel James for £20m less who does exactly the same thing
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TrevorSteven on August 31, 2021, 04:07:39 PM
especially when they could have had Daniel James for £20m less who does exactly the same thing

Daniel James is even far less than bang average. He is crap.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: bluestevie on August 31, 2021, 04:08:44 PM
Shocking management that by Arteta over AMN
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Trowel on August 31, 2021, 04:11:28 PM
I'd never endorse having a second club, but I always used to look at Arsenal with a degree of envy. A lesson to the rest of the 'big 6' as to how quickly fortunes can change. Mind you, it's not that long since Liverpool had Hodgson and everything was going the right direction!
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Robioto on August 31, 2021, 04:15:27 PM
I'd never endorse having a second club, but I always used to look at Arsenal with a degree of envy. A lesson to the rest of the 'big 6' as to how quickly fortunes can change. Mind you, it's not that long since Liverpool had Hodgson and everything was going the right direction!

Because my mate lives in Highbury (as in the actual stadium) and is a huge fan, I've watched them play a lot over the years from staying with him when on work trips to London.

So always had a bit of a soft spot for them because of that and the amazing football they used to play.

Now they are a joke. My mate has just lost his shit over the AMN debacle.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Toffee1 on August 31, 2021, 04:19:04 PM
https://twitter.com/EvertonBlueArmy/status/1432632726063038468
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Robioto on August 31, 2021, 04:24:58 PM
https://twitter.com/EvertonBlueArmy/status/1432632726063038468

That suggests we aren't expecting many of our incoming transfer negotiations to come off.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: stirlingblue on August 31, 2021, 04:28:00 PM
That suggests we aren't expecting many of our incoming transfer negotiations to come off.

At least on the winger front
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TrevorSteven on August 31, 2021, 04:29:45 PM
That suggests we aren't expecting many of our incoming transfer negotiations to come off.

Totally agree. Guess we get a striker, probably Rondon and that is it.

I just have a feeling that Mina gonna leave us too.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Robioto on August 31, 2021, 04:31:04 PM
Totally agree. Guess we get a striker, probably Rondon and that is it.

I just have a feeling that Mina gonna leave us too.

I'll be surprised if any first teamer goes beyond James.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Robioto on August 31, 2021, 04:31:50 PM
https://twitter.com/David_Ornstein/status/1432632091624235009

Could have a bearing on AMN future?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on August 31, 2021, 04:34:01 PM
https://twitter.com/johncrossmirror/status/1432627779447758848?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TheRam on August 31, 2021, 04:35:33 PM
Don't mind Gordon staying.

He should get a good amount of minutes as we're short on wingers.

Can't trust these championship sides with your young players. Too much on the line to bother developing them.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Coyney83 on August 31, 2021, 04:36:37 PM
Leicester always do great deals. Lookman has the potential to be fantastic. Would have loved him back at Everton

I agree, they have been largely excellent in the transfer market since winning the league. Odd exceptions mind you; they spent mega money on Slimani and Adrien Silva, both of whom were massive fails, oh... and they sold Demarai Gray for £2m!!  :woohoo:
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Coyney83 on August 31, 2021, 04:39:58 PM
That suggests we aren't expecting many of our incoming transfer negotiations to come off.

Either that, or they have both impressed in training and we feel both could be trusted/contribute well as and when called upon through the season.

As has been mentioned, neither have had the best of luck/conditions in their respective C'ship loans to date, so keep them, let them train with better quality players and give them minutes as/when you can.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Coyney83 on August 31, 2021, 04:44:08 PM
Permission to ban the phrase FFP from this thread?

Permission to ban the phrase FFP for the next couple of years?!

We have taken our medicine in this window, next summer we will sell Rich as well as shifting more deadwood/cost with various high earning contract expiries. For the foreseeable, FFP should be in the rearview mirror, just in time for the governing bodies, including the FA, to make wholesale changes to it!!

  :Horse:
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Sixx1402 on August 31, 2021, 04:46:57 PM
WTF is wrong with Arteta and Arsenal. Unbelievable if true.
You know what, I used to love Arteta. And then the deadline day thing happened which I guess was fair enough.

But since then it's been Arsenal is my club, the one I hold dear to my heart and all this shit? What? You were a nobody before you signed for us, couldn't even get near the Sociedad team before we signed you on loan.

If there's any team he should be grateful to it's us, we gave him the platform to become a good player who ended up getting his shot with Arsenal, without us his career could well have languished into obscurity.

I just think he's a bit of a prick now. And a shit manager.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Toffee1 on August 31, 2021, 04:47:29 PM
https://twitter.com/David_Ornstein/status/1432632091624235009

Could have a bearing on AMN future?

Read the post first Toffee1, then you won't end up posting another link to the same story.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TheRam on August 31, 2021, 04:48:29 PM
What's happening with Ellis Simms?

Massive year for him this, he can't spend it in the under 23's or on our bench. He's a good championship loan spell from potentially being an option for us.

I've heard nothing on him?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: dazfrancis on August 31, 2021, 04:50:16 PM
What's happening with Ellis Simms?

Massive year for him this, he can't spend it in the under 23's or on our bench. He's a good championship loan spell from potentially being an option for us.

I've heard nothing on him?

Picked up in injury in the play offs didn't he?

Think he is still out
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Toffee1 on August 31, 2021, 04:50:58 PM
Mark Hughes looked like he was doing that interview from his bathroom.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: KingdingalingNL on August 31, 2021, 04:51:06 PM
What's happening with Ellis Simms?

Massive year for him this, he can't spend it in the under 23's or on our bench. He's a good championship loan spell from potentially being an option for us.

I've heard nothing on him?

Injured isn't he?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TrevorSteven on August 31, 2021, 04:55:49 PM
What's happening with Ellis Simms?

Massive year for him this, he can't spend it in the under 23's or on our bench. He's a good championship loan spell from potentially being an option for us.

I've heard nothing on him?

Injured and still out. Too bad for him -
Potentially destroying his chance of becoming a star striker as this was the time to get playing time
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Sixx1402 on August 31, 2021, 04:57:52 PM
https://twitter.com/EvertonBlueArmy/status/1432632726063038468
Branthwaite as cover for left back as well as centre back maybe? I think he's left footed.

Be a shame if we don't get Diaz as he's the one I'm excited about. Either way they'll both have to get playing time or it's pointless them being here.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Macca77 on August 31, 2021, 04:58:34 PM
The silence from us is deafening, suppose no news is good news
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary1878 on August 31, 2021, 05:13:44 PM
Even with our financial restrictions, you would still imagine that we have a little bit of cash for the right signing.

Quite incredible that every other club is splashing the cash in contrast to how reserved we have been. Feels all a bit strange!
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: dazfrancis on August 31, 2021, 05:13:51 PM


Can't trust these championship sides with your young players. Too much on the line to bother developing them.

Totally agree with this. It's just too competitive a level for a player to make a jump from u23s to.

Chelsea manage it well by sending their youth players on a loan at a feeder club abroad and then to the championships but players rarely do great if they go U23 > Championship.

It also seems like League One is quite a level lower than the championship. Gibson was great at fleetwood in league 2 but can't get a look in at championship level

Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TrevorSteven on August 31, 2021, 05:15:28 PM
Even with our financial restrictions, you would still imagine that we have a little bit of cash for the right signing.

Quite incredible that every other club is splashing the cash in contrast to how reserved we have been. Feels all a bit strange!

Probably just because we have wasted much more money than all the others the last years.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Toffee1 on August 31, 2021, 05:20:50 PM
https://twitter.com/EvertonBlueArmy/status/1432648611729481728
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 31, 2021, 05:24:37 PM
So at this moment in time we have no centre forward available for selection
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on August 31, 2021, 05:25:21 PM
No, we do -  just not very good/young ones.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Brownie on August 31, 2021, 05:34:17 PM
Everton have made a 2 year loan bid for Arsenal’s Ainsley Maitland-Niles with an option to sign him permanently. Arsenal and Everton have entered talks but no offer has been accepted yet. The Right Back has a contract with Arsenal until 2023.

Source - David Ornstein #EFC #deadlineday
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Hawkandro on August 31, 2021, 05:35:39 PM
So, even if we get Rondon in, I imagine he will need to go into isolation for 10 days? Then spend however many weeks getting up to full fitness? Good deal as a backup, but we really should have fucking signed him in June, not on the last day.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TrevorSteven on August 31, 2021, 05:37:30 PM
Brigthon done some beautiful buisness with the signing of Marc Cucurella...love signings like that. Loads of quality.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: D_murph on August 31, 2021, 05:38:34 PM
Everton have made a 2 year loan bid for Arsenal’s Ainsley Maitland-Niles with an option to sign him permanently. Arsenal and Everton have entered talks but no offer has been accepted yet. The Right Back has a contract with Arsenal until 2023.

Source - David Ornstein #EFC #deadlineday

Arsenal are selling Bellerin to Betis today, his contract expires in the summer.
Unless they sign someone they're left with Chambers and Cedric at RB. Up there with Coleman and Kenny that!
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: MrWhite on August 31, 2021, 05:39:22 PM
All those man utd fans out there grabbing there tissues to clean up the mess don't get carried away he's 36 years old won't be the player he was and I will run around my local area stark bollock naked until I get arrested if they win the league

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Risky bet that lol

Lineker in his pants..
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Hawkandro on August 31, 2021, 05:40:15 PM
Arsenal are selling Bellerin to Betis today, his contract expires in the summer.
Unless they sign someone they're left with Chambers and Cedric at RB. Up there with Coleman and Kenny that!

Signing Takehiro Tomayasu (who we should have looked at too, but probably too expensive for us at the moment).
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Lazarou on August 31, 2021, 05:45:31 PM
I don't think I will be needing flight tracker this window  shakeyheadman
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: D_murph on August 31, 2021, 05:46:56 PM
Most of the talk is about Maitland Niles but we've got no fit strikers at the club.
Rondon needs to happen and soon.

Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: stirlingblue on August 31, 2021, 05:47:28 PM
https://twitter.com/JordanC1107/status/1432643433034760194?s=20

Rangers correspondant for the athletic says Patterson is staying
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: MrWhite on August 31, 2021, 05:55:22 PM
So, even if we get Rondon in, I imagine he will need to go into isolation for 10 days? Then spend however many weeks getting up to full fitness? Good deal as a backup, but we really should have fucking signed him in June, not on the last day.

Depends, doesn't seem to be in the Venuzuela squad, if he's in China that's amber list
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GLewis on August 31, 2021, 05:59:04 PM
We will also just play Richarlison up front for a couple of games which is more that fine.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: blargins on August 31, 2021, 06:00:33 PM
And we have Gray as well :)
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: MrWhite on August 31, 2021, 06:05:26 PM
Most of the talk is about Maitland Niles but we've got no fit strikers at the club.
Rondon needs to happen and soon.

What about Richy? Not injured is he?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 31, 2021, 06:13:54 PM
Branthwaite as cover for left back as well as centre back maybe? I think he's left footed.

Be a shame if we don't get Diaz as he's the one I'm excited about. Either way they'll both have to get playing time or it's pointless them being here.

Yep on FM - during my "building" phase, he played quite a bit of LB for me.  He was pretty good.

You have to have bodies, for depth and the Cups.  No need to send those two on loan.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GLewis on August 31, 2021, 06:16:55 PM
Is Rondon actually still registered to a club?

If not, it wouldn't need to go through today?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: dazfrancis on August 31, 2021, 06:27:40 PM
Is Rondon actually still registered to a club?

If not, it wouldn't need to go through today?

I think he's registered to Dalian professional isn't he?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary Todd on August 31, 2021, 06:39:33 PM
Risky bet that lol

Lineker in his pants..
I'm confident lol

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: MrWhite on August 31, 2021, 06:39:43 PM
Is Rondon actually still registered to a club?

If not, it wouldn't need to go through today?

Still listed on various usual sites as in their squad, can't find an official website to check and the reports from him going there don't mention contract length.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Shogun on August 31, 2021, 06:43:06 PM
Still listed on various usual sites as in their squad, can't find an official website to check and the reports from him going there don't mention contract length.

Contracted until Dec 2022 according to transfermarkt
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: velimski on August 31, 2021, 06:56:53 PM
So he won't be free and he's probably on fairly big wages.

Not quite so appealing as it first appeared to be.

Think we'd be better trying to get him on loan for a season, bring someone better in next summer, and not be lumbered with Rondon for another 12 months after that (assuming it would be a 2 year deal)
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Hawkandro on August 31, 2021, 06:58:30 PM
So he won't be free and he's probably on fairly big wages.

Not quite so appealing as it first appeared to be.

Think we'd be better trying to get him on loan for a season, bring someone better in next summer, and not be lumbered with Rondon for another 12 months after that (assuming it would be a 2 year deal)

Pretty sure Dalian have said they will allow him to leave on a free as they want the contract space.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: velimski on August 31, 2021, 06:59:33 PM
Pretty sure Dalian have said they will allow him to leave on a free as they want the contract space.

Ah right. That changes things.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TrevorSteven on August 31, 2021, 06:59:59 PM
Unless reports yesterday that James to AC Milan is done and will be official in the last hours of the window is true - I cant see him going.

The marketing value of signing James is of such a big scale that rumours would have started already if there is something of a serious interest in him somewhere.

The money from Kean is nothing so I cant really see that his transfer/loan to Juventus puts us in a position where we actually can do some of the exciting transfers.

If we actually do any signings at all I am pretty sure they will be on the more underwheliming stature like Rondon og Maitland-Niles. Hopefully on short contracts as it looks like we are trying to solve problems of today and not building a club.

That is totally ok for me. The start of the season has put us in a situation where we do see that a relegation probably never gonna happen but at the same time it would be overposititve to think that we could achieve Europe this season. Save the money and start investing next year - fine by me.

If we in all of a sudden start using loads of money let it for gods sake be on Bissouma. He could make us seriously much better and would fit the style of Benitez with fast transitions.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Trowel on August 31, 2021, 07:01:20 PM
https://twitter.com/SoccerByIves/status/1432673256096550915
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Macca77 on August 31, 2021, 07:05:49 PM
Any rumours about incomings at all?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: blargins on August 31, 2021, 07:13:23 PM
This is our transfer deadline day.

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: blueToffee on August 31, 2021, 07:17:02 PM

Saying we’re still trying but Rodriguez’s wages an issue. I wonder if we’ll end up paying the reminder of his wages if Porto actually want him.

Rodriguez seems to want a move to Italy, but if there isn’t anything concrete from there, maybe he’ll take the Porto move?

Full translation:

Today the market in Europe closes, everyone is very attentive to what may happen with the James y Díaz issue. Very complicated, Everton is trying to make something concrete with Diaz. For James' departure, the problem has always been his salary. Patience ... but it is difficult, very difficult.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: velimski on August 31, 2021, 07:21:16 PM
Wage demands for Rondon apparently an issue.

Hardly surprising as he went to China, you know, for money.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Free Agent on August 31, 2021, 07:22:42 PM
https://twitter.com/SoccerByIves/status/1432673256096550915

We’re Hoppeless aren’t we?  shakeyheadman
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cozzie on August 31, 2021, 07:27:45 PM
Yeah fuck Rondon off if he wants stupid money.

Seems like the club really want Diaz which is encouraging.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Mayor Farnum on August 31, 2021, 07:28:36 PM
Wage demands for Rondon apparently an issue.

Hardly surprising as he went to China, you know, for money.
Yes, one of the main reasons these semi desirable players hang on to the last day of the window. Find a desperate club and rinse them.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: UncleCarlosJustPlay on August 31, 2021, 07:34:25 PM
Yeah fuck Rondon off if he wants stupid money.

Seems like the club really want Diaz which is encouraging.

Read the other day that he's on more than 200k a week in China
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: velimski on August 31, 2021, 07:36:44 PM
Read the other day that he's on more than 200k a week in China

Didn't they introduce a salary cap, meaning no player could earn more than 50k a week? Think it might have included players that were already there?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: UncleCarlosJustPlay on August 31, 2021, 07:43:33 PM
Didn't they introduce a salary cap, meaning no player could earn more than 50k a week? Think it might have included players that were already there?

For new contracts. That's why all the high paid foreign players are wanting out and why the clubs are often willing to let them go early
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Hawkandro on August 31, 2021, 07:44:34 PM
Good job we are still flapping about trying to get a RB in. Mere years since we knew we actually needed one.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 31, 2021, 07:55:33 PM
This is our transfer deadline day.

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Sadly, there is no longer moneys in the banana stand.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Mayor Farnum on August 31, 2021, 07:57:24 PM
Good job we are still flapping about trying to get a RB in. Mere years since we knew we actually needed one.
I'd have thought there would be a suitable RB playing somewhere that we could identify considering we have a dof whose strength is his knowledge of players.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 31, 2021, 07:58:10 PM
I don't see the Rondon logic at all, if wages are anything but a steal.  Would we be at relegation risk if we had to use Richarlison, Gordon, Simms, or whatever other U-23 flotsam we have (instead of Rondon)?  Nope.  So, who gives a fuck?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on August 31, 2021, 08:00:19 PM
Surely a cheap, fit and hungry Ellis Simms is a better option than an expensive, greedy 32 year old journeyman, for a handul of appearances a season. 

Stick the extra cash towards a right back, a YOUNG quality forward or in the FFP pot.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 31, 2021, 08:02:13 PM
If you have to use said journeyman for significant minutes?  Then, not everything has gone exactly right - which means no chance of Europe.  So, to me - there is no upside, just adding another bad contract to the stinking pile.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: dazfrancis on August 31, 2021, 08:07:12 PM
Surely a cheap, fit and hungry Ellis Simms is a better option than an expensive, greedy 32 year old journeyman, for a handul of appearances a season. 

Stick the extra cash towards a right back, a YOUNG quality forward or in the FFP pot.

I would generally prefer to see our younger players go out on loan and get a load of games under their belt.

Whether they actually play at their loan club is different matter altogether but generally prefer to take the long term view of developing our players
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on August 31, 2021, 08:19:50 PM
Surely a cheap, fit and hungry Ellis Simms is a better option than an expensive, greedy 32 year old journeyman, for a handul of appearances a season. 

Stick the extra cash towards a right back, a YOUNG quality forward or in the FFP pot.
Simms isn’t fit yet and nowhere near the level needed to lead the line on the PL.

Not having a pop at you specifically, but this happens every season:

Gordon should be playing if Richy’a out.

Nounkou should be playing if Digne’s out.

Had it before with the likes of Kenny and even Pennington.

Most youth players aren’t good enough to even get on pitch in the PL, let alone potentially start 30+ games, if we had injuries.

So yes, we really do need Rondon.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Confucius on August 31, 2021, 08:20:00 PM
Should of called this the no hope of a rumour thread
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: UncleCarlosJustPlay on August 31, 2021, 08:20:51 PM
I don't see the Rondon logic at all, if wages are anything but a steal.  Would we be at relegation risk if we had to use Richarlison, Gordon, Simms, or whatever other U-23 flotsam we have (instead of Rondon)?  Nope.  So, who gives a fuck?

I'd assume we were hoping to get him for what he's worth. Maybe 2 years at 50k a week which is a pretty good deal given our lack of cover and him being a free transfer. If he wants more cos hes earning  daft money then he's no chance of a move anywhere
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on August 31, 2021, 08:23:31 PM
Simms isn’t fit yet and nowhere near the level needed to lead the line on the PL.

Not having a pop at you specifically, but this happens every season:

Gordon should be playing if Richy’a out.

Nounkou should be playing if Digne’s out.

Had it before with the likes of Kenny and even Pennington.

Most youth players aren’t good enough to even get on pitch in the PL, let alone potentially start 30+ games, if we had injuries.

So yes, we really do need Rondon.

I did say for a handul of games that DCL may be out. Say half a dozen games, not 30!
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 31, 2021, 08:23:44 PM
Simms is a good example - to me - of who should NOT be loaned out.  He's not a potential "star" in the making.  So, let him be a "fringe" player with the senior side (he will play some, so long as you don't give the manager a Rondon option), and stay match fit with the U-23s.  Get some value out of him, and the opportunity cost savings of NOT signing Rondon.

Branthwaite and Gordon showed the perils of loaning, on the "higher" end of the prospect spectrum.  They didn't play any more than they would have with Everton, and they are good enough to have "squad player" roles.  You aren't hindering their development, unless you are 100% sure they would play almost every match on loan (spoiler alert - you have no control over that).

To me, loans are right only for a handful of "promising" youth, and the circumstances need to be just so.  Loans are much better for fucking off salary anchors, like we did with Tosun and Walcott.  Or for players you have no plans for, but they need to improve a bit before they are good enough to sell.

/I am aware that I am being Very Football Manager here, but we need to try a different approach
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Goaljira on August 31, 2021, 08:24:31 PM
All fizzling out now.  Be interesting to see if James starts to be involved, or if we're just going to have him on Twitch or Instagram or whatever not being arsed for 4 months.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Hawkandro on August 31, 2021, 08:24:53 PM
Echo reporting Arsenal will not let AMN go, and we may not bring a RB in.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on August 31, 2021, 08:26:10 PM
If you have to use said journeyman for significant minutes?  Then, not everything has gone exactly right - which means no chance of Europe.  So, to me - there is no upside, just adding another bad contract to the stinking pile.
By that logic; team’s should only have squads of 11 players then, because if you’re going to get injuries, you’re fucked anyway.

I’ve said plenty of times before; because we’ve never really had a squad, certain people don’t appreciate or understand the necessity of having one.

Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on August 31, 2021, 08:26:13 PM
Agreed, sometimes when you havent got a City or Shite sized budget you just have to have cheaper options on the bench. Id sooner have our own young and hungry kids, who may have potential than overpaid journeymen who are normally more interested in money.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 31, 2021, 08:29:55 PM
By that logic; team’s should only have squads of 11 players then, because if you’re going to get injuries, you’re fucked anyway.

I’ve said plenty of times before; because we’ve never really had a squad, certain people don’t appreciate or understand the necessity of having one.


No, I like having a squad.  But I think you can have one by "pushing" U-23s into fringe roles, and/or bringing in players who are hungry for a fresh start (like Demarai Gray).  Not by getting 32 year olds who have already fucked off to China.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on August 31, 2021, 08:32:24 PM
https://twitter.com/carlitossuarez/status/1432694151041191938?s=21

Big Ronny?


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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: American Evertonian on August 31, 2021, 08:32:39 PM
I'm expecting Rondon as a minimum, anything else will be a bonus. Fingers crossed

I’m expecting Rondon and a RB (loan or perm) and that’s probably it.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on August 31, 2021, 08:32:58 PM
No, I like having a squad.  But I think you can have one by "pushing" U-23s into fringe roles, and/or bringing in players who are hungry for a fresh start (like Demarai Gray).  Not by getting 32 year olds who have already fucked off to China.
Needs must
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: UncleCarlosJustPlay on August 31, 2021, 08:33:08 PM
Agreed, sometimes when you havent got a City or Shite sized budget you just have to have cheaper options on the bench. Id sooner have our own young and hungry kids, who may have potential than overpaid journeymen who are normally more interested in money.

Our best young players have been sent out to the lower leagues and overwhelmingly failed at that level. You kind of have to assume they aren't ready rather than that they are
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on August 31, 2021, 08:40:48 PM
Rondon done.

Source: text message.


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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: ajax_andy on August 31, 2021, 08:41:53 PM
Peopy saying give Simms or whoever the games instead of Rondon don't really have a good grasp of how lost Simms would look being asked to lead the line in a top half premier league team.

Rondon is very experienced, can do all the stuff you need like hold the ball up against premier league defenders, has scored goals at this level, and could 100% be relied upon to slot straight in and do a job.

Simms hasn't shown anything other than a reasonably decent loan spell in league one.  The chances of him being able to effectively lead the line in the premier league are slim at best.

Sometimes just throwing random kids in to the starting lineup isn't a very good idea, in fact it NEVER is, you only play them when they're ready and good enough.  Otherwise you bring in someone capable of doing the job to the required standard.

It's not that hard a concept to grasp surely?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Heisenberg on August 31, 2021, 08:47:27 PM
Simms is miles off. But not really sure Rondon can do “all the stuff you need” either

4 years after letting Lukaku go and we are in the same spot we was then. Poor
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cereal Killer on August 31, 2021, 08:49:49 PM
“We’ll go with what we’ve got…”
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TrevorSteven on August 31, 2021, 08:54:45 PM
Peopy saying give Simms or whoever the games instead of Rondon don't really have a good grasp of how lost Simms would look being asked to lead the line in a top half premier league team.

Rondon is very experienced, can do all the stuff you need like hold the ball up against premier league defenders, has scored goals at this level, and could 100% be relied upon to slot straight in and do a job.

Simms hasn't shown anything other than a reasonably decent loan spell in league one.  The chances of him being able to effectively lead the line in the premier league are slim at best.

Sometimes just throwing random kids in to the starting lineup isn't a very good idea, in fact it NEVER is, you only play them when they're ready and good enough.  Otherwise you bring in someone capable of doing the job to the required standard.

It's not that hard a concept to grasp surely?

I think its just the case of two different philosphies. Some managers and clubs value experience and look for those qualities you mention, others have a different approach like Borussia Dortmund i.e

In a short-term I am hundred percent on your wagon but for me Rondon is the player that will keep us as a top-half team but not beyond that. I do not think that it will happen in a million years but as clubs like Chelsea, United, City and Liverpool can buy the best players in the world we need to find a different way to get to them. That could be in training, drilling an effective system and so on but it could also be to start adapt a philosphy that could make Everton get the reputation of beeing the club to go to when you are a huge talent - like Borussia Dortmund has done. Yes, for some years we would be treated like a stepping stone but from year to year you would also be able to actualy compete with the biggest teams - even with lower budgets.

Going for players like Rondon and Townsend will never make us compete with the biggest clubs in the Premier League but I do agree that they probably will give us much better results than playing Gordon and Simms. So I fully understand your view.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Toffee_4_Life on August 31, 2021, 08:56:39 PM
It's a strange one as Brands business has usually been under the radar and just appears out of nowhere.

No no massive sky sports rumours isn't a huge issue at this stage.

Obviously I'd rather have skenthing concrete about incomings but no need to worry just yet
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Risky on August 31, 2021, 09:01:25 PM
It's a strange one as Brands business has usually been under the radar and just appears out of nowhere.

No no massive sky sports rumours isn't a huge issue at this stage.

Obviously I'd rather have skenthing concrete about incomings but no need to worry just yet

Agreed.

Heads should only start to fall off if there's nothing at 23.01 tonight.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cereal Killer on August 31, 2021, 09:05:40 PM
Agreed.

Heads should only start to fall off if there's nothing at 23.01 tonight.

At least 23.30 as the last minute rush to squeeze the paperwork through for Sean Longstaff keeps everyone on tender hooks
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on August 31, 2021, 09:08:50 PM
By that logic; team’s should only have squads of 11 players then, because if you’re going to get injuries, you’re fucked anyway.

I’ve said plenty of times before; because we’ve never really had a squad, certain people don’t appreciate or understand the necessity of having one.

I don't know how you fought the urge to put certain people in quotation marks.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary1878 on August 31, 2021, 09:13:46 PM
I have to say that this is a heck of a lot quieter than I would have imagined it would be.

Surely it won't just be Begovic, Gray and Townsend in this window for a combined fee of £1.7m?

Has to be a RB in the pipeline somewhere....
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cereal Killer on August 31, 2021, 09:24:19 PM
I have to say that this is a heck of a lot quieter than I would have imagined it would be.

Surely it won't just be Begovic, Gray and Townsend in this window for a combined fee of £1.7m?

Has to be a RB in the pipeline somewhere....

Aurier on loan late in the day
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: blueToffee on August 31, 2021, 09:26:03 PM
I have to say that this is a heck of a lot quieter than I would have imagined it would be.

Surely it won't just be Begovic, Gray and Townsend in this window for a combined fee of £1.7m?

Has to be a RB in the pipeline somewhere....

How many transfer windows has that phrase been uttered?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Toffee1 on August 31, 2021, 09:26:48 PM
Aurier on loan late in the day

Was just thinking would we be looking at one of the Spurs fullbacks when Emerson signs.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Hawkandro on August 31, 2021, 09:27:51 PM
Was just thinking would we be looking at one of the Spurs fullbacks when Emerson signs.

I liked Doherty a lot at Wolves, but then he played more as a wing-back than an out and out Right Back, didn't he? One of the reasons he didn't do so well at Spurs, moving to an out and out RB.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Free Agent on August 31, 2021, 09:30:50 PM
I have to say that this is a heck of a lot quieter than I would have imagined it would be.

Surely it won't just be Begovic, Gray and Townsend in this window for a combined fee of £1.7m?

Has to be a RB in the pipeline somewhere....

We got a RB, Rafa Benitez…
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Brownie on August 31, 2021, 09:31:24 PM
Gomes to Benfica on loan with a €12m option to buy
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Toffee1 on August 31, 2021, 09:32:11 PM
I liked Doherty a lot at Wolves, but then he played more as a wing-back than an out and out Right Back, didn't he? One of the reasons he didn't do so well at Spurs, moving to an out and out RB.

He did very well in that wing-back role for Wolves getting a number of assists, which was probably why Spurs bought him but then wanted him to adapt.

Vinny O'Connor has just said it could be a late one for Everton today, so we'll see.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: UncleCarlosJustPlay on August 31, 2021, 09:32:50 PM
Gomes to Benfica on loan with a €12m option to buy

Be happy with that. What's the source
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on August 31, 2021, 09:34:27 PM
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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Brownie on August 31, 2021, 09:34:34 PM
Be happy with that. What's the source

Benfica have loaned Andre Gomes from Everton. There will be an option to buy for €12M

Source - Oguz Oruc

Got it off an Everton site on FB - don’t know if it’s true
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Robioto on August 31, 2021, 09:35:21 PM
Be happy with that. What's the source

This is the original source I believe:


https://twitter.com/oguzoructd/status/1432702639754694659

TRANSLATION: Benfica loaned Andre Gomes from Everton for a year. He will have the option to get his testimonial of 12 million Euros.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gash on August 31, 2021, 09:40:06 PM
Polite request. Can we keep posts to either here or in a thread about the player. Posting it in both threads just mean we end up with two threads talking about the same thing. Cheers. :)
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cereal Killer on August 31, 2021, 09:41:13 PM
I liked Doherty a lot at Wolves, but then he played more as a wing-back than an out and out Right Back, didn't he? One of the reasons he didn't do so well at Spurs, moving to an out and out RB.

Don’t think Nuno will let him go as he got the best out of him at Wolves
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Robioto on August 31, 2021, 09:44:22 PM
I'm not convinced by this El Bobble lad as a source yet, but...

https://twitter.com/ElBobble/status/1432712527645978627
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Goaljira on August 31, 2021, 09:46:11 PM
Benfica have loaned Andre Gomes from Everton. There will be an option to buy for €12M

Source - Oguz Oruc

Got it off an Everton site on FB - don’t know if it’s true

That name looks like an anagram but I can't work out of what.  Loan with no obligation seems desperate.  We've got to have someone lined up then surely?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on August 31, 2021, 09:47:21 PM
That name looks like an anagram but I can't work out of what.  Loan with no obligation seems desperate.  We've got to have someone lined up then surely?

If it were true, then yes.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Brownie on August 31, 2021, 09:53:42 PM
Polite request. Can we keep posts to either here or in a thread about the player. Posting it in both threads just mean we end up with two threads talking about the same thing. Cheers. :)

My bad - sorry
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Lazarou on August 31, 2021, 09:54:32 PM
Our bench vs Burnley

(https://i.imgur.com/jguhlblm.jpg)
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Macca77 on August 31, 2021, 09:55:14 PM
Any spares m8

https://twitter.com/evertonspares/status/1432707093405093915
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Coyney83 on August 31, 2021, 09:59:38 PM
Gomes to Benfica on loan with a €12m option to buy

If this happens, I’d expect to see Longstaff come in on a perm, for c£5m fee. From memory he only has 12 months left on his contract and N/castle are interested in Hamza Choudhry from Leicester.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary1878 on August 31, 2021, 10:06:08 PM
How many transfer windows has that phrase been uttered?

Goodness knows how many....

I remain hopeful! Or perhaps they see Godfrey and Holgate being able to cover there for the season with Kenny as an emergency.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: stirlingblue on August 31, 2021, 10:12:39 PM
I just hope the first three games haven’t lead to complacency in the club about what we need to get through a season
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GLewis on August 31, 2021, 10:20:17 PM
I just hope the first three games haven’t lead to complacency in the club about what we need to get through a season

Doubt it - I presume negotiations still going on for Rondon and AMN which are the two (big) gaps in the squad.

Re anyone else, it seems predicated on James (or whether Richarlison had gone) going.

If James doesn’t go, then he will presumably be reintegrated into the squad. 
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Hawkandro on August 31, 2021, 10:33:04 PM
West Ham signing Alex Kral now too. Gonna be pushing for Top 6 this season.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Bluedylan on August 31, 2021, 10:40:00 PM
Vlasic for £25m is a great deal.

Tomiyasu for £17m also looks like excellent value.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Bluedylan on August 31, 2021, 10:42:47 PM
How long before Dan James has a top knot? I'm going pre-Xmas.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: doolally on August 31, 2021, 10:49:46 PM
This is the original source I believe:


https://twitter.com/oguzoructd/status/1432702639754694659

TRANSLATION: Benfica loaned Andre Gomes from Everton for a year. He will have the option to get his testimonial of 12 million Euros.

He’s done well getting a testimonial there. There normally only given to some of our under 23 squad who get to play a game after 16 years and aged 35
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cozzie on August 31, 2021, 10:50:54 PM
How long before Dan James has a top knot? I'm going pre-Xmas.

It is an incredible ratio the amount of Leeds players that actually have one isn't it?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: AllyBlue14 on August 31, 2021, 10:51:21 PM
How long before Dan James has a top knot? I'm going pre-Xmas.

Seems a pre-requisite - I reckon we'll see the Alice band first, then it'll graduate to top knot around Valentine's Day.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Risky on August 31, 2021, 10:54:48 PM
It is an incredible ratio the amount of Leeds players that actually have one isn't it?

They look like they should be playing Rugby League rather than footy
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 31, 2021, 11:04:29 PM
"Alice band" is a new term for this Ugly American.  I'd love to learn about the term's meaning.

I mean, the fuck else do we have to do??
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: kerryblue boy on August 31, 2021, 11:09:42 PM
It’s all a bit too quiet it’s criminal if we don’t add right back cover this window my faith in brands will be completely gone if we don’t bring someone in
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: MrWhite on August 31, 2021, 11:10:09 PM
Positives so far

We aren't getting James or Berahino
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Macca77 on August 31, 2021, 11:11:18 PM
https://twitter.com/SamiMokbel81_DM/status/1432736851861848072
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cereal Killer on August 31, 2021, 11:14:04 PM
It’s all a bit too quiet it’s criminal if we don’t add right back cover this window my faith in brands will be completely gone if we don’t bring someone in

It’s not like we aren’t trying to get a right back 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: American Evertonian on August 31, 2021, 11:20:53 PM
Not sure why I do this every year - get my hopes up….

Never should have expected more than Rondon.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Bluedylan on August 31, 2021, 11:21:31 PM
I do worry that we'll panic and go for a liability like Aurier, as the long day's journey into night begins.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Macca77 on August 31, 2021, 11:21:33 PM
https://twitter.com/ElBobble/status/1432738222044549127

Surely we've got other right backs lined up just in case
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: fubarruk on August 31, 2021, 11:23:35 PM
Sky just saying that rhe 'option' we put forward for AMN was 'low' (which makes sense as we're skint)

This ones dead, he's staying at Arsenal. Move on.

Looking like no RB cover at this rate, shambles!

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: American Evertonian on August 31, 2021, 11:23:39 PM
Any spares m8

https://twitter.com/evertonspares/status/1432707093405093915

I expect he means a loan for DCLs new Aston Martin and probably seed money for Davies new fashion line.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: blueToffee on August 31, 2021, 11:23:45 PM
Do we have a plan G?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cereal Killer on August 31, 2021, 11:24:52 PM
Sky will just spunk any old rumour though, just said McKennie has been offered on loan to Burnley based on a random text someone in the studio got  :wanker:
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 31, 2021, 11:25:47 PM
"We'll go with what we've got."
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: fubarruk on August 31, 2021, 11:26:16 PM
Do we have a plan G?
Benitez going cap in hand to Rodriguez and seeing if he fancies trying his luck as a creative wing back would be my guess...

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Sixx1402 on August 31, 2021, 11:33:07 PM
Rondon close according to Sky.

Surely we'll get a right back in....... surely?

Marcel? Marcel?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on August 31, 2021, 11:33:46 PM
There's still 6 hours to finalise paperwork for players, but still it's all about next summer (again) now.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: fubarruk on August 31, 2021, 11:33:53 PM
Vinny O Connor live from Everton incoming, watch this space...

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GLewis on August 31, 2021, 11:34:02 PM
Aurier must be a possibility now?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: NickNack on August 31, 2021, 11:36:19 PM
It’s not like we aren’t trying to get a right back 🤷‍♂️
Not sure we are trying, we’ve needed one for about 3 years. To be in this position on deadline day is bordering on negligence. I get the position we’re in with the dreaded FFP words but again, negligence.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Fynci on August 31, 2021, 11:37:17 PM
Think it shows how restrictive the finances are.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Sixx1402 on August 31, 2021, 11:39:54 PM
Aurier must be a possibility now?
Please don't.

He's absolute garbage.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Macca77 on August 31, 2021, 11:43:13 PM
It's nearly deal sheet explanation time
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on August 31, 2021, 11:44:36 PM
It's all a bit too quiet it's criminal if we don't add right back cover this window my faith in brands will be completely gone if we don't bring someone in
Tbf, it only seems like we have the money to get one, as of the Kean going through, this morning.

How many options are left out there?

He still should have sorted this years ago, though.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: BainesonToast on August 31, 2021, 11:44:59 PM
Surely LB is now more of a priority than righf back? Or is Kenny really that bad?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: blueToffee on August 31, 2021, 11:46:49 PM
It's kinda weird about AMN, aren't Arsenal signing Tomiyasu..? Or is he more of a CB than a RB?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Toffee_4_Life on August 31, 2021, 11:47:28 PM
Champagne time peeps

In all seriousness fine for what it is. Backup for DCL who will suit our style of play and be on cheap wages and no fee.

https://twitter.com/ALANMYERSMEDIA/status/1432745546012372996?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: christiffa25 on August 31, 2021, 11:48:10 PM
Barkley you would think will 100% be leaving Chelsea on a loan this window. I’m gonna guess we could be in for him.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on August 31, 2021, 11:48:47 PM
Surely LB is now more of a priority than righf back? Or is Kenny really that bad?
He’s that bad. Had a mare up at Celtic.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 31, 2021, 11:49:58 PM
On my grocery store run, I shamefully listened to TalkShite (on SiriusXM).  I hate myself a little bit extra now.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on August 31, 2021, 11:50:09 PM
https://twitter.com/alanmyersmedia/status/1432745546012372996?s=21


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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on August 31, 2021, 11:50:27 PM
Rondon almost done (as per my text earlier lol)


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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Lazarou on August 31, 2021, 11:51:21 PM
I'm almost done.

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on August 31, 2021, 11:53:20 PM
I'm almost done.

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: adaml on August 31, 2021, 11:53:50 PM
33 Mill for Vlasic. We should get a slice of that hopefully.

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 31, 2021, 11:53:55 PM
Hopefully this horror show window (Gray excepted) leads to brighter/more interesting days ahead.  Time to eat our vegetables, take our medicine, (insert other corny idiom here).
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Lazarou on August 31, 2021, 11:54:14 PM
Put a fork in yourself and see if the juices run clear.
Eh?

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on August 31, 2021, 11:55:40 PM
Eh?

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Toffee_4_Life on August 31, 2021, 11:55:50 PM
Eh?

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You don't cook very often I assume 😂
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on August 31, 2021, 11:56:47 PM
33 Mill for Vlasic. We should get a slice of that hopefully.

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Think it's actually £30m once you do the currency conversion. Anyhow, we do get 15% I believe, which would be £4.5m.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Hawkandro on August 31, 2021, 11:56:51 PM
What kind of fucking journalist has a fucking catchphrase? "Here we go"? Off you fuck, more like.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Lazarou on August 31, 2021, 11:58:27 PM
I'm vegetarian . Not much comes out of Linda McCartney sausages.

Never heard that one either way.

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: ally2 on August 31, 2021, 11:58:43 PM
I'm pissed off now either way. To be in this shape right now is poor. And to be scrambling around trying to do deals with 5 hrs to go is also poor.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on August 31, 2021, 11:59:09 PM
I'm vegetarian . Not much comes out of Linda McCartney sausages.

Never heard that one either way.

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Hawkandro on August 31, 2021, 11:59:39 PM
Moriba to Leipzig for £15m. What a deal that is potentially.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: adaml on September 01, 2021, 12:00:43 AM
Think it's actually £30m once you do the currency conversion. Anyhow, we do get 15% I believe, which would be £4.5m.
Nice amount for nothing though. Not sure how he has done for CSKA but is it worthy of the price tag?

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Lazarou on September 01, 2021, 12:01:15 AM
Fuck me I just got it .



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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: NickNack on September 01, 2021, 12:02:32 AM
Barkley you would think will 100% be leaving Chelsea on a loan this window. I’m gonna guess we could be in for him.
Burnley and Newcastle in for him according to Talkshite earlier  lolol
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Bluedylan on September 01, 2021, 12:03:54 AM
Nice amount for nothing though. Not sure how he has done for CSKA but is it worthy of the price tag?

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https://www.croatiaweek.com/nikola-vlasic-wins-player-of-year-title-in-russia/

I think he'll be a great signing. I was really disappointed he didn't work out for us. You could see that he had a lot of quality even at that age imo. Criminally mismanaged.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Toffee1 on September 01, 2021, 12:07:17 AM
Kaveh speaks like he is on the slowest speed on a record player.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Toffee1 on September 01, 2021, 12:08:29 AM
https://twitter.com/ToffeeTVEFC/status/1432751486736478209
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: UncleCarlosJustPlay on September 01, 2021, 12:09:10 AM
Hopefully this horror show window (Gray excepted) leads to brighter/more interesting days ahead.  Time to eat our vegetables, take our medicine, (insert other corny idiom here).

The window has been fine. Townsend looks a decent signing too. Rid of Bernard and his massive wages. It's the other windows previously that have been a horror show
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Sixx1402 on September 01, 2021, 12:10:34 AM
https://twitter.com/ToffeeTVEFC/status/1432751486736478209
Eh? Apparently it was fairly close for 20m plus James last Friday. So now they're rejecting 10m more, don't get what's going on with that.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 01, 2021, 12:11:07 AM
Nice amount for nothing though. Not sure how he has done for CSKA but is it worthy of the price tag?

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Their leading scorer last season, 12 in all comps. Same with the previous term on 13 goals.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: MmmblueBernard on September 01, 2021, 12:11:53 AM
Eh? Apparently it was fairly close for 20m plus James last Friday. So now they're rejecting 10m more, don't get what's going on with that.

they want 40?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cereal Killer on September 01, 2021, 12:12:22 AM
Kaveh speaks like he is on the slowest speed on a record player.

“Massive, huge breaking news” Mbappe to Madrid isn’t happening…

Tell us something that wasn’t known by the world days ago
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Danny on September 01, 2021, 12:12:49 AM
It's been dull as fuck but it's an alright window really if we get Rondon and it's a good window if we get a RB.

We seem to have been reducing the wage bill year on year since Brands arrived and we're approaching a reasonable figure now.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Hawkandro on September 01, 2021, 12:13:22 AM
Nkounkou joined Standard. One LB. One RB. Great squad building, lads.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cereal Killer on September 01, 2021, 12:14:08 AM
Nkounkou joined Standard. One LB. One RB. Great squad building, lads.

Delph and Holgate as back ups this season then  :laugh:
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 01, 2021, 12:15:13 AM
I look forward to the next Cup tie, with Holgate at RB and Brainthwaite at LB!

/dear Christ, what I just realized this will mean - Delph getting minutes
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 01, 2021, 12:17:34 AM
The window has been fine. Townsend looks a decent signing too. Rid of Bernard and his massive wages. It's the other windows previously that have been a horror show

I think we mean the same thing - it just sucks to lose Kean for peanuts (but not really our fault), plus seeing all these decent RBs going for bargain prices, and we can't do any business.  Plus, we really needed to shift more than just Bernard.

It's the fault of past windows, plus the Plague Era financial situation.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Bluedylan on September 01, 2021, 12:18:19 AM
Some big young talents making moves -

Camavinga to Real Madrid confirmed, and Nuno Mendes to PSG (loan with option to buy for €40m)

Everton aside, it's been a really eventful, active window for a lot of clubs.

I'm still holding out hope we pull off a late surprise at right back (a good surprise, like Celik or Baku, not a bad surprise like Aurier)
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: velimski on September 01, 2021, 12:20:14 AM
Nkounkou joined Standard. One LB. One RB. Great squad building, lads.

Loan or perm?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Robioto on September 01, 2021, 12:20:40 AM
Loan or perm?

Loan
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary Todd on September 01, 2021, 12:21:11 AM
In true Everton style we go and leave ourselves short as fuck get one or two injuries we are fucked....

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: ajax_andy on September 01, 2021, 12:24:00 AM
Some big young talents making moves -

Camavinga to Real Madrid confirmed, and Nuno Mendes to PSG (loan with option to buy for €40m)

Everton aside, it's been a really eventful, active window for a lot of clubs.

I'm still holding out hope we pull off a late surprise at right back (a good surprise, like Celik or Baku, not a bad surprise like Aurier)

I'd take Aurier on loan with an option to buy, better than having Kenny as the only other option.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary Todd on September 01, 2021, 12:24:21 AM
FFP how the actual fuck do Chelsea follow that? Utter shite imo

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 01, 2021, 12:24:32 AM
I'm pissed off now either way. To be in this shape right now is poor. And to be scrambling around trying to do deals with 5 hrs to go is also poor.
Nothing’s really changed though, has it? From the start of the window it was apparent we had to sell to buy, and it just happens that we couldn’t sell until deadline day morning - hence us scrabbling around, now.

The business we’ve done this window (or lack of it), is because of past mistakes and a lack of cashflow (resisted using FF…) as a consequence. It’s not due to incompetence, imo.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 01, 2021, 12:28:05 AM
https://www.croatiaweek.com/nikola-vlasic-wins-player-of-year-title-in-russia/

I think he'll be a great signing. I was really disappointed he didn't work out for us. You could see that he had a lot of quality even at that age imo. Criminally mismanaged.
I just think he was another casualty of the Sigurdsson signing.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary1878 on September 01, 2021, 12:28:32 AM
Come on Everton, there has to be something else here other than Rondon. Just has to be.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on September 01, 2021, 12:28:45 AM
FFP how the actual fuck do Chelsea follow that? Utter shite imo

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tell me you don't understand what P&S is without telling me you don't understand what P&S is (FFP is for clubs competing in Europe).
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on September 01, 2021, 12:30:12 AM
Nothing’s really changed though, has it? From the start of the window it was apparent we had to sell to buy, and it just happens that we couldn’t sell until deadline day morning - hence us scrabbling around, now.

The business we’ve done this window (or lack of it), is because of past mistakes and a lack of cashflow (resisted using FF…) as a consequence. It’s not due to incompetence, imo.

Yeah but why hasn't it been fixed in the past 7 days, and why can't we sell anyone? Riddle me that, Batman /sarc
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Macca77 on September 01, 2021, 12:31:18 AM
What a massive anti climax this is again, Rondon is decent, but we're truly fucked when Coleman and Digne get injured, fucking shambles
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: adaml on September 01, 2021, 12:32:08 AM
https://www.croatiaweek.com/nikola-vlasic-wins-player-of-year-title-in-russia/

I think he'll be a great signing. I was really disappointed he didn't work out for us. You could see that he had a lot of quality even at that age imo. Criminally mismanaged.
Yeah I always hoped he would come good for us too. Always seemed to have a good attitude

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary Todd on September 01, 2021, 12:33:08 AM
tell me you don't understand what P&S is without telling me you don't understand what P&S is (FFP is for clubs competing in Europe).
OK genuinely I didn't understand so basically then a team in Europe can spend what they wish but a team that isn't has a limited amount to spend on outlay and wages?

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: oscar on September 01, 2021, 12:33:59 AM
Now Nkounkou has left, we must be after that young left back from Southampton think his name is Thierry Small
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary1878 on September 01, 2021, 12:36:19 AM
However bad things are, just remember that we could be Arsenal at the moment 😂

There is nothing funnier than their fans in meltdown on ATV.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 01, 2021, 12:39:17 AM
FFP how the actual fuck do Chelsea follow that? Utter shite imo

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They’ve just sold Kurt Zouma and Tino Anjorin for close to £50m.

Made £110m in player sales this window.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: toshyboy on September 01, 2021, 12:39:55 AM
Head falling off everywhere . 4 and half hours left, start panicking at 10.30. Still reckon we’ll get Maitland-Niles in myself
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on September 01, 2021, 12:41:32 AM
OK genuinely I didn't understand so basically then a team in Europe can spend what they wish but a team that isn't has a limited amount to spend on outlay and wages?

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No it's essentially a revenue : spend ratio, that's it. Take in more revenue, you can spend more. We don't generate enough revenue to play in those sandboxes. There are some details but that's enough to go by. You can't incur more than XXX debt over a 3-year period as well. So every one of our players who walks out on a free does nothing for us except free up wages because we're not getting any money for them. I forget what it's called, but you also have to be very mindful of the wage bill and how that relates to revenue, as anything over 60% is generally the "danger zone." Last I knew our wages represented 85% of our revenue. That's not good.

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TheRam on September 01, 2021, 12:43:28 AM
No it's essentially a revenue : spend ratio, that's it. Take in more revenue, you can spend more. We don't generate enough revenue to play in those sandboxes. There are some details but that's enough to go by. You can't incur more than XXX debt over a 3-year period as well. So every one of our players who walks out on a free does nothing for us except free up wages because we're not getting any money for them. I forget what it's called, but you also have to be very mindful of the wage bill and how that relates to revenue, as anything over 60% is generally the "danger zone." Last I knew our wages represented 85% of our revenue. That's not good.

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Heisenberg on September 01, 2021, 12:45:30 AM
Don’t get that Nkounkou loan me. He would of got game time in the cups or as a sub
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: NickNack on September 01, 2021, 12:45:57 AM
Nothing’s really changed though, has it? From the start of the window it was apparent we had to sell to buy, and it just happens that we couldn’t sell until deadline day morning - hence us scrabbling around, now.

The business we’ve done this window (or lack of it), is because of past mistakes and a lack of cashflow (resisted using FF…) as a consequence. It’s not due to incompetence, imo.
Disagree on the incompetence part. The reason we are where we are is due to incompetence. We could have signed a RB when we were spending money, it’s not like one wasn’t needed. Losing a promising LB to another club and then letting the one genuine LB we have in reserve go out on loan is a strange one.

Things could change in the next few hours and really they need to as hoping we can get through to January with no injuries to key positions is totally unrealistic.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Toddacelli on September 01, 2021, 12:47:11 AM
Let's have an effeffpee thread, where those who want can discuss, explain and complain about it in there. It's like a virus in every thread at the moment.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on September 01, 2021, 12:48:37 AM
Wish we would issue a statement cos we are not signing anyone ,
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: oscar on September 01, 2021, 12:48:46 AM
 if we get the Arsenal guy we’ll have 3 right backs and one left back
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: dazfrancis on September 01, 2021, 12:49:02 AM
Window hasn't been that bad. Improved in certain areas and added a lot more pace to the team for 1.7m

Right back not being addressed is absolutely criminal from brands though

Some of you must have forgotten that summer where we spent:

45m on Sigurdsson
24m on Davy klaasen
25m on Michael keane
Brought Rooney in on 150k / week
10m on Vlasic who was another number ten even though we'd already bought 3 other 10s that window

That window was so awful the best bit of business we done was Cuco fucking Martina on a free
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 01, 2021, 12:54:09 AM
Don't get that Nkounkou loan me. He would of got game time in the cups or as a sub
He wants games - he’s not going to progress and learn by playing 5 games a season for us. Needs regular football.

Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary Todd on September 01, 2021, 12:54:53 AM
No it's essentially a revenue : spend ratio, that's it. Take in more revenue, you can spend more. We don't generate enough revenue to play in those sandboxes. There are some details but that's enough to go by. You can't incur more than XXX debt over a 3-year period as well. So every one of our players who walks out on a free does nothing for us except free up wages because we're not getting any money for them. I forget what it's called, but you also have to be very mindful of the wage bill and how that relates to revenue, as anything over 60% is generally the "danger zone." Last I knew our wages represented 85% of our revenue. That's not good.

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Thank you really appreciate that I kind of understand it a little more now

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 01, 2021, 12:57:17 AM
Let's have an effeffpee thread, where those who want can discuss, explain and complain about it in there. It's like a virus in every thread at the moment.
Doesn’t help when on transfer deadline day, regular posters are like “so what’s this FFP thing then?”.

Jesus fucking Christ.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Macca77 on September 01, 2021, 12:58:53 AM
Who do we have as backup for Digne? Kenny for Coleman is also a frightening scenario, we're an injury away from play Branthwaite at full back for fuck sake.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Toddacelli on September 01, 2021, 01:00:36 AM
Who do we have as backup for Digne? Kenny for Coleman is also a frightening scenario, we're an injury away from play Branthwaite at full back for fuck sake.

Think we'll see Godfrey there before Branthwaite, but you're right - one injury away from playing a young CB there for sure.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: ajax_andy on September 01, 2021, 01:00:37 AM
Who do we have as backup for Digne? Kenny for Coleman is also a frightening scenario, we're an injury away from play Branthwaite at full back for fuck sake.

No we're an injury away from Delph at left back, two injuries away from Godfrey at left back, three away from Branthwaite at left back.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Heisenberg on September 01, 2021, 01:02:09 AM
No we're an injury away from Delph at left back, two injuries away from Godfrey at left back, three away from Branthwaite at left back.

None of them can do the attacking part of that role. Not even close
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: van der Meyde on September 01, 2021, 01:02:30 AM
Incredible that anyone even thinks that Benitez would throw Nkounkou in the starting 11 for a league game.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: kramer0 on September 01, 2021, 01:03:26 AM
I think we're firmly 6th-10th whether we sign someone who's an exact perfect fit for us or sign nobody. The stakes are low.

I'll be made up if we get through an entire summer window without doing anything stupid and/or expensive.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: wepull on September 01, 2021, 01:05:17 AM
No we're an injury away from Delph at left back, two injuries away from Godfrey at left back, three away from Branthwaite at left back.
So basically one injury away (Digne's) from Godfrey at LB as Delph is almost perennially injured.

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on September 01, 2021, 01:06:06 AM
Wish we would issue a statement cos we are not signing anyone ,

Is that the norm?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cereal Killer on September 01, 2021, 01:06:37 AM
OK genuinely I didn't understand so basically then a team in Europe can spend what they wish but a team that isn't has a limited amount to spend on outlay and wages?

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I mean they’ve sold £130m this summer, £20m last year and £140m two summer ago
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: ajax_andy on September 01, 2021, 01:07:49 AM
None of them can do the attacking part of that role. Not even close

No but they can cover and unless Digne gets a serious injury Welly be fine.  No sense in spending money we need to spend on a right back on this when that position is far more important to fill
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Discostu on September 01, 2021, 01:08:10 AM
I think we're firmly 6th-10th whether we sign someone who's an exact perfect fit for us or sign nobody. The stakes are low.

I'll be made up if we get through an entire summer window without doing anything stupid and/or expensive.

I agree with the second statement for sure.  Whether we can keep the 6-10 placement with some bad luck with injuries, Im not so sure
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: UncleCarlosJustPlay on September 01, 2021, 01:09:35 AM
Been sensible this window which isn't overly exciting

Unfortunately it's the previous windows when we spent with such recklessness that we can't spend anything now. It was a staggering level of ineptitude. At least we are spending within our means now. Just a shame it took so long and so much money before we woke up
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GLewis on September 01, 2021, 01:09:56 AM
Incredible that anyone even thinks that Benitez would throw Nkounkou in the starting 11 for a league game.

Yeah he’s swapped hopefully a full season on loan as opposed to maybe 2 or 3 starts here (1 of which he’s already made).
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: doolally on September 01, 2021, 01:16:38 AM
Can’t believe Brands has us all fooled. Our new right back ….Solomon Rondon
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: wepull on September 01, 2021, 01:17:36 AM
Yeah he's swapped hopefully a full season on loan as opposed to maybe 2 or 3 starts here (1 of which he's already made).
Probably could have used him in a 5 at the back kind of a set up if Digne gets injured. Don't think he's ready defensively in 4 at the back.

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Sir Stealth on September 01, 2021, 01:17:37 AM
We probably won't get into a situation between now and January where both Coleman and Digne are injured at the same time. If we do then we will work something out between Kenny, Holgate, Godfrey and Delph

Even if we kept Nkounkou and Digne got injured we probably would have used Delph or Godfrey ahead of Niels

At the latest though next summer we are gonna need that long term right back solution sorted

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TheRam on September 01, 2021, 01:20:16 AM
https://twitter.com/vzaantefc1878/status/1432760765400985607?

Is this lad doing a funny or........
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: van der Meyde on September 01, 2021, 01:20:29 AM
Yeah he’s swapped hopefully a full season on loan as opposed to maybe 2 or 3 starts here (1 of which he’s already made).
I’m not particularly hopeful that he’ll actually get much game time there personally.

Their left back doesn’t miss many games and a quick look at his goals/assists record seems pretty respectable.

Seems an odd move to me.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Heisenberg on September 01, 2021, 01:23:10 AM
Are we sending him out for development? More than likely we sell him next summer for 6mil. He then goes on to get good for someone else
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: kramer0 on September 01, 2021, 01:24:12 AM
Thierry Small on Southampton's bench after Digne gets injured.

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Silas on September 01, 2021, 01:24:20 AM
Happy with our business this window it's been very smart but not getting a right back in is a real shame. Still stronger than we were last season in my opinion
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Old England Toffee on September 01, 2021, 01:24:46 AM
We probably won't get into a situation between now and January where both Coleman and Digne are injured at the same time. If we do then we will work something out between Kenny, Holgate, Godfrey and Delph

Even if we kept Nkounkou and Digne got injured we probably would have used Delph or Godfrey ahead of Niels

At the latest though next summer we are gonna need that long term right back solution sorted

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proper clutching at straws here, but do we think any of the U23s might step up, sometimes a player rapidly accelerates or a maybe Rafa has seen something that other managers havent. Hoping we get a RB who can do a decent job on the left as well. Late Trippier loan deal?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary Todd on September 01, 2021, 01:25:43 AM
I mean they've sold £130m this summer, £20m last year and £140m two summer ago
Yeah I get that just there squad is so big they could field two teams that would both finish top 6 it just seems so unfair on everyone else the top four will get further and further in front of everyone else

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Bob Sacamano on September 01, 2021, 01:32:38 AM
Why are those pair of gimps on SSN wanking off agents now? Shameless, shameless shit.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: BainesonToast on September 01, 2021, 01:32:52 AM
https://twitter.com/vzaantefc1878/status/1432760765400985607?

Is this lad doing a funny or........

Call me sentimental but I would love that so so much and I bet he'd still be up to it, certainly as a back up.

Always felt sad he never got the send off he deserved because of covid.

More excited at the prospect of this than any other signing now haha. Love him so much.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: van der Meyde on September 01, 2021, 01:39:36 AM
I’m not particularly hopeful that he’ll actually get much game time there personally.

Their left back doesn’t miss many games and a quick look at his goals/assists record seems pretty respectable.

Seems an odd move to me.
On the other hand, sounds like Liege fans don’t like their current left back at all so maybe he does get games there?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Fynci on September 01, 2021, 01:42:52 AM
Would anybody be surprised to see Godfrey play more games this season in another position, other than centre back?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Robioto on September 01, 2021, 01:46:47 AM
Why are those pair of gimps on SSN wanking off agents now? Shameless, shameless shit.

I assume you are talking about Kaveh and Dharmesh?

Can't stand them.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Sixx1402 on September 01, 2021, 01:47:33 AM
Rondon along with Diaz and a RB and I'm over the moon.

Doesn't seem likely now though, crack on Marcel lad.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Old England Toffee on September 01, 2021, 01:48:01 AM
https://www.twitch.tv/fabrizioromano fabrizio romano has a twitch stream. lots of everton fans asking him for Diaz updates
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Dr. Sponge on September 01, 2021, 01:48:04 AM
Shit innit.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Discostu on September 01, 2021, 01:49:18 AM
I'm accepting that there will most likely not be any additional moves after rondon.  We got with what we have.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: MmmblueBernard on September 01, 2021, 01:49:53 AM
https://www.twitch.tv/fabrizioromano fabrizio romano has a twitch stream. lots of everton fans asking him for Diaz updates

Hopefully theres no 'announce Diaz' shouts or i might have to log in a throw a few virtual haymakers.....
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Danny on September 01, 2021, 01:51:07 AM
Just saw a tweet from Romano an hour ago saying we’re still trying for the Porto winger.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 01, 2021, 01:51:18 AM
Working today so not kept up; have we given up on Rondon?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Robioto on September 01, 2021, 01:54:07 AM
https://www.twitch.tv/fabrizioromano fabrizio romano has a twitch stream. lots of everton fans asking him for Diaz updates

Lol, I lasted 5 minutes, like watching paint dry watching him and his mate on their phones 😂
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Robioto on September 01, 2021, 01:55:15 AM
Working today so not kept up; have we given up on Rondon?

Rondon imminent by the sounds of it.

Diaz / James still possible but getting increasingly unlikely

No sign of a right back
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 01, 2021, 01:55:52 AM
We are bidding against ourselves for Rondon, so hopefully we offer low wages and say "take it or leave it."  That, I'd be fine with (even if I don't rate the player at all).

I mean, who has fucked off to China, returned to the Prem in their 30s, and done anything other than "steal a living*?"

*another of my now favourite bits of phrasing that NSNO taught me
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cozzie on September 01, 2021, 01:56:48 AM
RE Diaz, sort of hoping James realises near end of window that his options are slim and that it's either Porto or stay put.

Only hope really.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Old England Toffee on September 01, 2021, 01:58:17 AM
Lol, I lasted 5 minutes, like watching paint dry watching him and his mate on their phones 😂
haha. theyve got a pic of maradona and a footy as well which he keeps moving with his arm. I was getting really bored with Sky news, but secretly I was hoping someone else would watch this instead and let us know when they talk about everton
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: brap2 on September 01, 2021, 01:58:35 AM
Can't reeeeeeeally call it a let down as I'd kind of accepted rondon and AMN was best case scenario.

Window as a whole can come under some judgement once it's closed, but the message as I understand it was : we're skint, let's see how we get on.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Robioto on September 01, 2021, 02:00:20 AM
haha. theyve got a pic of maradona and a footy as well which he keeps moving with his arm. I was getting really bored with Sky news, but secretly I was hoping someone else would watch this instead and let us know when they talk about everton

I don't actually watch anything on deadline day anymore, since it got all over dramatised, I stopped with SSN. Football Manager with Twitter and NSNO on the side with a few bottles of beer to hand is perfection.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 01, 2021, 02:02:54 AM
Peacock Premium here is streaming the Sky nonsense live, but I hate myself enough for that 20 minutes of TalkShite I submitted to.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: velimski on September 01, 2021, 02:03:03 AM
This Portuguese fella on Fab's twitch sounds exactly like my ex missus (without the deep voice)
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 01, 2021, 02:04:14 AM
I don't actually watch anything on deadline day anymore, since it got all over dramatised, I stopped with SSN. Football Manager with Twitter and NSNO on the side with a few bottles of beer to hand is perfection.

Don't forget gambling.  Gambling is always there for us!

/anxiously waits for Salford and Bolton to stage their comebacks
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: stirlingblue on September 01, 2021, 02:07:48 AM
Can't reeeeeeeally call it a let down as I'd kind of accepted rondon and AMN was best case scenario.

Window as a whole can come under some judgement once it's closed, but the message as I understand it was : we're skint, let's see how we get on.

I’d have felt much better had we not had the excitement of Diaz dangled in front of us.

Not just the player himself, but because it clearly meant we have £20m+ in the pocket for the right player
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: UncleCarlosJustPlay on September 01, 2021, 02:10:11 AM
Are we the smallest spenders of the entire window now. Gross and net. Not looked closely but it looks like we might be. Surely in previous Windows they could see the time coming when we'd have nothing left to spend and yet we continued to throw money around and often on players with no sell on value

I'm relieved we haven't signed 3 or 4 older players for decent fees on big contracts but it's really worrying in terms of the position our board havs allowed us to get to and In terms of having much confidence in them going forwards. This has been a good window but it is more to do with having nothing left than finding some common sense
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cozzie on September 01, 2021, 02:10:38 AM
Reckon it will go to the wire and we will get Diaz.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Fynci on September 01, 2021, 02:12:21 AM
Weird one, the Dutch live transfer updates just posted this:

"Van de Beek mag niet weg bij Manchester United
Manchester United-coach Ole Gunnar Solskjaer heeft een verhuur van Donny van de Beek op deadline day tegengehouden.

De voormalige Ajacied had zijn zinnen gezet op een tijdelijke overstap naar Everton, maar blijft voorlopig bij de Engelse topclub."

Basically saying that Solskjaer blocked a loan approach from us for van de Beek.... looks a bit like we're scrambling around for anything at the minute.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: velimski on September 01, 2021, 02:12:57 AM
Luis Diaz 100% not happening according to Portuguese fella and Fab.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: UncleCarlosJustPlay on September 01, 2021, 02:13:17 AM
I’d have felt much better had we not had the excitement of Diaz dangled in front of us.

Not just the player himself, but because it clearly meant we have £20m+ in the pocket for the right player

Think that's it. We were all pretty much okay with the window being 1 of cutting costs and being cleverer even if the signings weren't exciting. Then we get our hopes up that there's room for a decent priced signing or 2 and we all end up watching the forum all night while nothing happens then a bit disappointed
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cozzie on September 01, 2021, 02:13:54 AM
Luis Diaz 100% not happening according to Portuguese fella and Fab.

Ah right fuck it then.

Shame, only one that excited me.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Old England Toffee on September 01, 2021, 02:14:30 AM
Reckon it will go to the wire and we will get Diaz.
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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Robioto on September 01, 2021, 02:14:36 AM
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1432783632817655814

Deal dead
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cozzie on September 01, 2021, 02:14:46 AM
Really worried it's gonna be Aurier or Doherty at right back.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cozzie on September 01, 2021, 02:15:28 AM
Couldn't have put more of a kiss of death on the Diaz deal if I'd tried. Haha
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Brownie on September 01, 2021, 02:15:30 AM
Well that’s a pile of poop
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: blueToffee on September 01, 2021, 02:16:26 AM
I think any excitement is gone with that Porto news.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TheRam on September 01, 2021, 02:16:30 AM
We’re skint. We had targets lined up but because we couldn’t shift anybody for decent money we were fucked.

Five years or mis management comes to pass.

I’m happy that baring an injury crisis we have a good enough manager to gives us a decent season.

They made a fucking huge make or break call with Rafa and considering our financial situation it looks like the right choice.

Just get this year out the way and hopefully have a bit to spend next summer to make real improvements.

No point scrambling around now for anyone to bolster the squad.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Old England Toffee on September 01, 2021, 02:16:51 AM
some others tweeted that its to be continued but odds on someone else buys him in January and he turns out to be awesome
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Robioto on September 01, 2021, 02:23:09 AM
Yeah it's disappointing, but not unexpected.

We still have a very good first 11 and a decent squad, despite the obvious holes in the full back positions.

Are we worse than last year? No we're not in my opinion and Townsend and Gray in particular could prove to be great pieces of business. And if we sign Rondon we'll arguably have the best back up option we've had in that position in the last 5+ years even if it isn't the most exciting.

We still have Richarlison which is massive and hopefully Benitez can develop Iwobi, Godfrey, Davies, etc.

This season was always going to be a bit of a throw away without a big push in the market, which given the circumstances was never going to happen. But it's certainly not all bad and you never know, we might be surprised at the end of the season and have some spending power again next summer.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: velimski on September 01, 2021, 02:23:31 AM
We’re skint. We had targets lined up but because we couldn’t shift anybody for decent money we were fucked.

Five years or mis management comes to pass.

I’m happy that baring an injury crisis we have a good enough manager to gives us a decent season.

They made a fucking huge make or break call with Rafa and considering our financial situation it looks like the right choice.

Just get this year out the way and hopefully have a bit to spend next summer to make real improvements.

No point scrambling around now for anyone to bolster the squad.

Agreed.

Fast forward 12 months and we will no longer be paying the wages of Tosun, Delph, Hamez, Sigurdsson, (and probably some others that I've forgotten about) which will give us a lot more wiggle room to rebuild.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: stirlingblue on September 01, 2021, 02:23:51 AM
We're skint. We had targets lined up but because we couldn't shift anybody for decent money we were fucked.

Five years or mis management comes to pass.

I'm happy that baring an injury crisis we have a good enough manager to gives us a decent season.

They made a fucking huge make or break call with Rafa and considering our financial situation it looks like the right choice.

Just get this year out the way and hopefully have a bit to spend next summer to make real improvements.

No point scrambling around now for anyone to bolster the squad.

I don’t mind scrambling around for a loan, minimal risk if there’s no obligation to buy, and we’re bodies short in the squad
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GLewis on September 01, 2021, 02:27:37 AM
I don’t mind scrambling around for a loan, minimal risk if there’s no obligation to buy, and we’re bodies short in the squad

Decent loans are at least a couple of million though, I suppose.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: D_murph on September 01, 2021, 02:27:45 AM
It's Enner Valencia and Djibril Sidibe time!
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on September 01, 2021, 02:28:58 AM
Anyone else still looking constantly to see if anything is happening, why do we do it to ourselves, should just put my phone down.


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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: UncleCarlosJustPlay on September 01, 2021, 02:29:21 AM
Agreed.

Fast forward 12 months and we will no longer be paying the wages of Tosun, Delph, Hamez, Sigurdsson, (and probably some others that I've forgotten about) which will give us a lot more wiggle room to rebuild.

Have you any real faith we won't just start making the same mess again? I think the moshiri years might be the most inept I've witnessed
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Brownie on September 01, 2021, 02:29:26 AM
Come on - give us a Fellaini-esque, out of the blue signing
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: D_murph on September 01, 2021, 02:32:41 AM
Come on - give us a Fellaini-esque, out of the blue signing

More likely to BE Fellaini tbh. He can catch the same flight as Rondon.
Watch this space...
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: bluestevie on September 01, 2021, 02:32:55 AM
https://twitter.com/alfonso_leocad/status/1432775715246821376?s=21
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Ari on September 01, 2021, 02:32:57 AM
Anyone else still looking constantly to see if anything is happening, why do we do it to ourselves, should just put my phone down.


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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 01, 2021, 02:33:08 AM
Are the days gone were you could dip into the Championship and sign a player that could play for a top eight side?
Rarely see those types of moves anymore. Even Celtic and Rangers players tend to go to the Championship and below these days.
Surely these lower league clubs can't be pricing players out of moves in the current financial climate.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Macca77 on September 01, 2021, 02:34:09 AM
Still can't believe we haven't got a right back in, it's bordering on negligence
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: velimski on September 01, 2021, 02:34:36 AM
Have you any real faith we won't just start making the same mess again? I think the moshiri years might be the most inept I've witnessed

Probably a bit more than you, but at least we'll have the opportunity to do something, which we currently don't.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Bluedylan on September 01, 2021, 02:36:36 AM
We defo should've been able to bring a right back in, whether it's a young prospect or an established player on loan.

Overall fairly calm and optimistic about the season, now that we have a detail orientated coach in charge of the team, but I am very disappointed we couldn't strengthen at right back.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GLewis on September 01, 2021, 02:41:38 AM
Also not sure whether Kenny still being here blocks significant investment (even were money to be available from Kean).
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Confucius on September 01, 2021, 02:42:01 AM
What happened to Fellaini? Where is he now?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cozzie on September 01, 2021, 02:44:00 AM
What happened to Fellaini? Where is he now?

China isn't he?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 01, 2021, 02:46:41 AM
What happened to Fellaini? Where is he now?
Filling up his pension pot in case he lives to 150.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: MmmblueBernard on September 01, 2021, 02:47:07 AM
F5..............






F5.................







F5....................
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TheRam on September 01, 2021, 02:47:09 AM
I don’t mind scrambling around for a loan, minimal risk if there’s no obligation to buy, and we’re bodies short in the squad

Just adding bodies for the sake of it though.

I’d rather we just went with what we have.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: UncleCarlosJustPlay on September 01, 2021, 02:49:05 AM
Probably a bit more than you, but at least we'll have the opportunity to do something, which we currently don't.

I'm actually hopeful that this window is the new everton and we'll continue finding value all be it with a much bigger budget in future windows. I do also feel there should be uproar at the mess the current board have created. The running of the club in recent years has been an absolute disgrace

Ancelotti walking out and ffp has probably saved us for a even bigger mess
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: wepull on September 01, 2021, 02:57:14 AM
Still want us to sign someone at the attacking end. We have 1 back up and Gordon in our attacking reserve. Need to add at least 1-2 more in that front even if it's just bodies at this point.

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Toffee1 on September 01, 2021, 02:58:54 AM
https://twitter.com/philmcnulty/status/1432793966890655746
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Toffee_4_Life on September 01, 2021, 02:59:26 AM
Convinced myself that as Rondon was pretty much done a coupe of hours ago, as we still havnt announced it, we've got another one up our sleeve to announce together.....
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 01, 2021, 03:03:29 AM
Looks like we've called Rondon's bluff by not giving him a contract we will be stuck with for a couple of years.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: christiffa25 on September 01, 2021, 03:10:41 AM
I'm actually hopeful that this window is the new everton and we'll continue finding value all be it with a much bigger budget in future windows. I do also feel there should be uproar at the mess the current board have created. The running of the club in recent years has been an absolute disgrace

Ancelotti walking out and ffp has probably saved us for a even bigger mess

Hahahahaha hilarious

Whether they’ve got it right or not so far with signings, you really should count your lucky stars we have a owner who’s been willing to pump in millions of his money and oh…. Sort out a new stadium.

Jeez
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Sixx1402 on September 01, 2021, 03:11:33 AM
Gonna have to hope we get lucky with injury's this year then, not much outside the first 11 to fall back on if it stays like this.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Robioto on September 01, 2021, 03:12:21 AM
I'm sure Rondon will happen, we will just announce it later on.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: UncleCarlosJustPlay on September 01, 2021, 03:15:37 AM
Hahahahaha hilarious

Whether they’ve got it right or not so far with signings, you really should count your lucky stars we have a owner who’s been willing to pump in millions of his money and oh…. Sort out a new stadium.

Jeez

Count our lucky stars that we had an owner who's managed to oversee us pissing away half a billion. To the point there's literally nothing left for a budget now. Oh and we are still stuck with worthless players on massive contracts. Oddly that doesn't seem so lucky
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Macca77 on September 01, 2021, 03:17:32 AM
Squad looks weak as piss
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: MmmblueBernard on September 01, 2021, 03:18:42 AM
Could be worse, could be Barcelona. Flogging (Griezman) or releasing (Messi) their best payers with Koeman in charge.....
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: toffeeglas on September 01, 2021, 03:19:56 AM
What a ride this summer has been. Started weighing up pros and cons of coutinho, ended praying rondon deal gets over the line
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 01, 2021, 03:21:48 AM
I can see that last minute dash for Ross Barkley
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: kerryblue boy on September 01, 2021, 03:23:17 AM
Story in the echo from Holland that we had a loan bid for van de beek stopped by ole
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Bluebridge on September 01, 2021, 03:23:22 AM
I'm sure Rondon will happen, we will just announce it later on.
Doing the reveal video, probably flashes back to a Chinese take away in town, with Rondon behind the counter, someone asks for a number 9 and he reveals his Everton shirt and tattoo
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: fubarruk on September 01, 2021, 03:26:35 AM
Brands has less than 2 hours to prove to us all he's not totally inept.

Seriously, if he's been trying to secure a £30 million deal for a winger that looks doomed to failure, whilst at the same time not solving a RB issue that's been a glaring problem for 2 years, whilst also releasing the only true cover we had at left back (I'm not considering Delphs 1 game per season availability as cover) then what the actual fuck is he doing here?

Someone's mentioned it already, to not make a new RB the single main priority this summer above all else is bordering on negligence.

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Verm on September 01, 2021, 03:28:08 AM
If we’ve bid 20m+ for a winger why haven’t they tried to spend that money elsewhere?


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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 01, 2021, 03:29:26 AM
Brands has less than 2 hours to prove to us all he's not totally inept.

Seriously, if he's been trying to secure a £30 million deal for a winger that looks doomed to failure, whilst at the same time not solving a RB issue that's been a glaring problem for 2 years, whilst also releasing the only true cover we had at left back (I'm not considering Delphs 1 game per season availability as cover) then what the actual fuck is he doing here?

Someone's mentioned it already, to not make a new RB the single main priority this summer above all else is bordering on negligence.

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Maybe Benitez is happy with Coleman and Kenny 🤷‍♂️.

Also, we have no money to invest in transfers and need to cut the wage bill down, FFP probbaly saving us from making the same old mistakes we've made for the past 7 or 8 transfer windows.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Fynci on September 01, 2021, 03:30:26 AM
If we’ve bid 20m+ for a winger why haven’t they tried to spend that money elsewhere?


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Did we have it? Been a while since we threw out a ghost bid to give us fans something to hope for.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Old England Toffee on September 01, 2021, 03:32:25 AM
sky saying rondondone de do rondon  :woohoo:
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: MmmblueBernard on September 01, 2021, 03:34:11 AM
Brands has less than 2 hours to prove to us all he's not totally inept.

Seriously, if he's been trying to secure a £30 million deal for a winger that looks doomed to failure, whilst at the same time not solving a RB issue that's been a glaring problem for 2 years, whilst also releasing the only true cover we had at left back (I'm not considering Delphs 1 game per season availability as cover) then what the actual fuck is he doing here?

Someone's mentioned it already, to not make a new RB the single main priority this summer above all else is bordering on negligence.

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Steady on youth, youre gonna do yourself a mischief at this rate.....
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GLewis on September 01, 2021, 03:35:39 AM
If we’ve bid 20m+ for a winger why haven’t they tried to spend that money elsewhere?


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Seems it was predicated, or largely, on James leaving at the same time.

Also, no idea what structures the bid was in and if it did include James going as well probably wasn’t £20m that could be put to someone else
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary Todd on September 01, 2021, 03:36:08 AM
Rondon? how longs he been a rb a lb and a striker he's gonna busy ent he I've seen more strength in depth at my local Sunday league team than what we currently have

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Toddacelli on September 01, 2021, 03:37:43 AM
If Benitez turns Kenny into a decent top-half Prem level RB, he is definitely a genius and I will no longer hold any bitter reluctance towards him. He can date my sister at that point.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: fubarruk on September 01, 2021, 03:39:19 AM
Maybe Benitez is happy with Coleman and Kenny 🤷‍♂️.

Also, we have no money to invest in transfers and need to cut the wage bill down, FFP probbaly saving us from making the same old mistakes we've made for the past 7 or 8 transfer windows.
So the Diaz stories were fictitious then also, it was never going to happen as we had nothing to invest?

I can accept that if that's the case, but if we've put any effort in it whatsoever then priority has still been wrong.

£1.7m spend is laughable, regardless of reason, if its because of the spending over last few years then Brands has overseen it, and is still culpable.

Its not exactly a shining light on his CV.

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 01, 2021, 03:39:29 AM
If we’ve bid 20m+ for a winger why haven’t they tried to spend that money elsewhere?


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Maybe we seen that deal as good value and we're not seeing any decent value anywhere else?

Surely better to keep hold of it and see what's available in the January window rather than it just burn a hole in our pocket and waste it on players that don't add anything?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 01, 2021, 03:41:30 AM
So the Diaz stories were fictitious then also, it was never going to happen as we had nothing to invest?

I can accept that if that's the case, but if we've put any effort in it whatsoever then priority has still been wrong.

£1.7m spend is laughable, regardless of reason, if its because of the spending over last few years then Brands has overseen it, and is still culpable.

Its not exactly a shining light on his CV.

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We've no idea of the way the Diaz deal would have been structured, but the club must have seen it as good value.

There's no reason to waste money, we're in the position we're in now because we spent for spendings sake.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Heisenberg on September 01, 2021, 03:43:52 AM
Rondon - The Lukaku replacement we had all hoped for
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Toffee1 on September 01, 2021, 03:44:49 AM
Sky have put out their own version of Dumb and Dumber - Boyd and Merson.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 01, 2021, 03:45:42 AM
https://twitter.com/Holdentheblue/status/1432805420322721797
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary Todd on September 01, 2021, 03:45:56 AM
Injury free season needed then not really realistic is it but optimistic

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Brownie on September 01, 2021, 03:50:34 AM
Injury free season needed then not really realistic is it but optimistic

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Injury free four months
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: fubarruk on September 01, 2021, 03:50:57 AM
We've no idea of the way the Diaz deal would have been structured, but the club must have seen it as good value.

There's no reason to waste money, we're in the position we're in now because we spent for spendings sake.
I'm not talking about wasting money now, I'm saying that come that final day of last season we knew exactly what we were going to have available (or should have) and its at that point that work should have started on a RB search.

Here we are an hour before window closes, we clearly looked at position (Dumfries?) and made a bid 24 hours ago for AMN and we're out of options.

If Holgate gets dropped in for a single minute at RB between now and end of the season then we've colossaly fucked up...

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary Todd on September 01, 2021, 03:51:08 AM
Injury free season needed then not really realistic is it but optimistic

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I'm chatting shit here wishfull thinking I meant not optimistic lol drank to many bud sat watching this all day waiting for something to happen I know just isn't

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Escla on September 01, 2021, 03:51:21 AM
So the Diaz stories were fictitious then also, it was never going to happen as we had nothing to invest?

I can accept that if that's the case, but if we've put any effort in it whatsoever then priority has still been wrong.

£1.7m spend is laughable, regardless of reason, if its because of the spending over last few years then Brands has overseen it, and is still culpable.

Its not exactly a shining light on his CV.
The £1.7 million was a GREAT spend and of course it’s because of the spending over the last few years, 70% of which was down to Walsh.

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Verm on September 01, 2021, 03:51:25 AM
We've no idea of the way the Diaz deal would have been structured, but the club must have seen it as good value.

There's no reason to waste money, we're in the position we're in now because we spent for spendings sake.


IF that’s true then it just speaks to the futility of Marcel Brands.


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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Bob Sacamano on September 01, 2021, 03:53:56 AM
Erm. I hate to break it to you guys. We don’t have £20m. We’d have a RB if we had a £20m cheque to cash.

Engage rational thoughts please.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Macca77 on September 01, 2021, 03:55:17 AM
Big Ron scores the winner at the shite, you heard it here first
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Toffee1 on September 01, 2021, 03:56:22 AM
https://twitter.com/EvertonBlueArmy/status/1432808577668898820
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Verm on September 01, 2021, 03:56:38 AM
Erm. I hate to break it to you guys. We don't have £20m. We'd have a RB if we had a £20m cheque to cash.

Engage rational thoughts please.

This is what is confusing me, the Diaz offer appeared to be player plus cash.


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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: UncleCarlosJustPlay on September 01, 2021, 03:58:19 AM

IF that’s true then it just speaks to the futility of Marcel Brands.


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Bit ridiculous that the value he did find was only value because the selling club didn't want the deal
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Bob Sacamano on September 01, 2021, 04:03:53 AM
This is what is confusing me, the Diaz offer appeared to be player plus cash.


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I think it was more the case that they wanted James than we wanted their fella. By taking james we could class the value of their fella against a “loan fee” and dress it up as income to address ffp or sustainability or whatever. So we’d actually spend money but under the ruse that we’d made money and lost James wages.

Basically I think we were trying to pull a fast one.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary Todd on September 01, 2021, 04:04:14 AM
When you think of the millions wasted on shite over the last few years its no wonder its come to this! still could have been worse £1.7m spent early days but Gray looks like a gem Townsend will do a job and Begovic could be good cover Rondon already proved he can cut it in the prem yeah we needed a Rb but we will just have to make do

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Toffee1 on September 01, 2021, 04:05:15 AM
https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1432810676867772416


Hopefully, Allardyce will fall off his chair again.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: fubarruk on September 01, 2021, 04:13:27 AM

Id argue Walshs success/failure rate at the moment stacks up against Brands?

Yes he had some disasters, but both have had sucessful signings, both have had big failures.

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Trowel on September 01, 2021, 04:17:14 AM
Allardyce and Merson spouting clichés about players they'd never heard of before today based on what they read in yesterday's papers.

Given the pundits they dropped recently I thought Sky were working towards a complete overhaul of this shite.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: fubarruk on September 01, 2021, 04:17:43 AM
Aurier being released by Spurs! let's throw everything at JJK...

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Toffee_4_Life on September 01, 2021, 04:18:35 AM
Aurier arranging a release from his contract so will be a free agent. Worth it as a backup on a free?

Either way, doesn't need to organise a club by 11pm if that's the case
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary Todd on September 01, 2021, 04:20:50 AM
Aurier free agent

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cozzie on September 01, 2021, 04:24:02 AM
Aurier is shite, lol.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: ajax_andy on September 01, 2021, 04:24:36 AM
Aurier free agent

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Probably means his wage demands will be enormous.  Still possibly one we won't be able to afford.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cozzie on September 01, 2021, 04:24:44 AM
https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1432810676867772416


Hopefully, Allardyce will fall off his chair again.

Wait. The fat cunt fell off his chair? When, where, why, what, who???
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: ajax_andy on September 01, 2021, 04:26:52 AM
Erm. I hate to break it to you guys. We don’t have £20m. We’d have a RB if we had a £20m cheque to cash.

Engage rational thoughts please.

I'm guessing we expected to get AMN on loan and this freed up whatever cash we had to use on Diaz.  Only now we might need to spend it on an RB after all.

Remember we bid £7m for Pattinson from Rangers so do have some money to spend, but now all our eggs are likely going in to finding a right back.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: doolally on September 01, 2021, 04:27:10 AM
Absolute liability that Aurier, rather save the wage and play Kenny or Godfrey at right back when required. Stupidly rash defender, there’s a reason why Spurs want rid.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TheRam on September 01, 2021, 04:28:55 AM
Would be a pointless addition.

If coleman stays fit he’ll be one of the best performing right backs in the league still. That’s a big if though, but we can manage ok with what we have in reserve.

We’re a team who’s expectations aren’t very high for the season so it’s fine to just settle in this window.

Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cozzie on September 01, 2021, 04:29:18 AM
Yeah Aurier would be a hefty kick to the scrotum, he is garbage.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary Todd on September 01, 2021, 04:29:52 AM
Probably means his wage demands will be enormous.  Still possibly one we won't be able to afford.
We couldn't afford a bag of chips at the moment but we got keans fee to use?

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Toffee1 on September 01, 2021, 04:34:25 AM
Wait. The fat cunt fell off his chair? When, where, why, what, who???

It was a couple of years back, might have been the summer deadline day after we sacked him. Probably be on a YouTube video somewhere.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 01, 2021, 04:35:00 AM
I'm guessing we expected to get AMN on loan and this freed up whatever cash we had to use on Diaz.  Only now we might need to spend it on an RB after all.

Remember we bid £7m for Pattinson from Rangers so do have some money to spend, but now all our eggs are likely going in to finding a right back.
How far down the list of RBs do you go, though? If your top 5 or 6 aren’t available, do you bother spending £15m on the 7th or do you just go with what you’ve got?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: NickNack on September 01, 2021, 04:35:32 AM
We couldn't afford a bag of chips at the moment but we got keans fee to use?

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: brap2 on September 01, 2021, 04:35:46 AM
Yeah sometimes a bad deal is worse than no deal to be fair.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Goaljira on September 01, 2021, 04:37:56 AM
Yeah sometimes a bad deal is worse than no deal to be fair.

Okay Theresa.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Everton1981 on September 01, 2021, 04:39:45 AM
To the regular NSNO posters.
I thank you all for sharing the ups and downs of our emotions during this transfer window.

While I’m disappointed like most, I’m equally pleased we re-found some of the NSNO transfer integrity our beloved Everton threw away since Moshiri took over. We were fast becoming Leeds / Portsmouth with our spending.

Personally, I’m looking forward to seeing what Benitez can do with the squad he has… and your passionate posts.

All the best blues
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GLewis on September 01, 2021, 04:39:45 AM
https://twitter.com/gffn/status/1432817557581488130?s=
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cozzie on September 01, 2021, 04:40:03 AM
Vinny Oconnor saying we are done.

Night.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Sixx1402 on September 01, 2021, 04:40:41 AM
https://twitter.com/gffn/status/1432817557581488130?s=
Thank God
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: toshyboy on September 01, 2021, 04:42:03 AM
Vinny Oconnor saying we are done.

Night.

No doubt we’ll be classing James as “like a new signing”
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary Todd on September 01, 2021, 04:42:12 AM
You never know get the goodison Faithfull behind him james may yet be the player he can be Benitez surely won't keep him out the team if he's fit he's got to play some part

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: fubarruk on September 01, 2021, 04:42:25 AM
Silver lining to all of this.... we should get to see Rodriguez in the flesh at Goodison at some point surely?

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: blueToffee on September 01, 2021, 04:46:50 AM
Yeah, I think we're back to Godfrey and Holgate as our RB/LB cover. Oh well, I'm not super averse to CBs filling since Moyes had Lescott there. He was an extra threat on set pieces.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TrevorSteven on September 01, 2021, 04:47:44 AM
Dont get your hopes too high on seeing James Rodriguez.

I think thath Benitez doesnt rate him and will not find any place for him the team. Rodriguez has never spoke about wanting to leave but still he has been ocean away from even being in the squad.

I hope I am wrong but now he will just be approx 100K a week out the window and after some months evertonians will turn against him - like they did with Kean.

It probably a Bernard story once again where the club hopes that lacking regular football will make James pushing for a move in the winter.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: blueToffee on September 01, 2021, 04:48:52 AM
Dont get your hopes too high on seeing James Rodriguez.

I think thath Benitez doesnt rate him and will not find any place for him the team. Rodriguez has never spoke about wanting to leave but still he has been ocean away from even being in the squad.

I hope I am wrong but now he will just be approx 100K a week out the window and after some months evertonians will turn against him - like they did with Kean.

It probably a Bernard story once again where the club hopes that lacking regular football will make James pushing for a move in the winter.

Come on, we had two keepers on the bench last game. We'll be seeing him.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on September 01, 2021, 04:50:43 AM
Turned in SSN and they are still spouting on about mbappe FFS
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: American Evertonian on September 01, 2021, 04:51:32 AM
Can’t help but wonder if we were ever in for Hoppe. Went to Mallorca for €3m. Surely we would have been able to put that together if we thought he was worth it.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TrevorSteven on September 01, 2021, 04:54:28 AM
Come on, we had two keepers on the bench last game. We'll be seeing him.

I would be surprised if we see him. Dont underestimate how harsh and cynicall footballclubs are. If you are out, you are actually out. Rodriguez is behind Gomes, Davies, Gbamin, Delph, Iwobi and so on in the picking order.

Yes, he is the best footballer at our club by miles. His statistics last year was way better than most players at the club. But fact is - Benitez doesnt rate him, doesnt find a position for him and Benitez was the one who killed James career at Real Madrid. They couldnt stand eachother.

It would be a massive surprise if Benitez would play him.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 01, 2021, 04:54:53 AM
Aurier on a free
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gary Todd on September 01, 2021, 04:55:38 AM
Come on, we had two keepers on the bench last game. We'll be seeing him.
I agree paying someone 100k a week with the undoubted ability james has we will be seeing him and it's upto him to show Benitez what he has to offer cuz if he's out the picture all the time who the fucks gonna want him anyway? I got a good feeling james has unfinished business with us 

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Title: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Blue Lagoon on September 01, 2021, 04:57:58 AM
My only hope here is that we are really setting a re-set on the squad, knowing we'll be ok this year for mid table plus, but also knowing that the wage bill tanks next summer. Hoping next summer we can spend and really kick on with the expensive shite gone


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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Shropshire Blue on September 01, 2021, 04:58:02 AM
Strange how he 'kiiled his career' by not playing him at first and moved to him being a regular when Rafa left.
It's a strange thought that being in Rafa's team is career threatening.




Of course he'll play, can't see him being the 'main man' but there's still a role for him.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Robioto on September 01, 2021, 05:00:28 AM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1432825553988562948
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Robioto on September 01, 2021, 05:03:04 AM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1432826233524473857
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cozzie on September 01, 2021, 05:03:13 AM
The Don, as I will now call him.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: BainesonToast on September 01, 2021, 05:04:44 AM
Considering we have no money it's not been an awful window.

Not panic bought which is the biggest relief.
Get Bainsey out of retirement and we've got two solid players in each position.

The league is in the bag lads.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cods on September 01, 2021, 05:04:54 AM
The Don, as I will now call him.
The Don has gone.
Long live The Don
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on September 01, 2021, 05:04:59 AM
The Don, as I will now call him.

@Bally (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=19)
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TrevorSteven on September 01, 2021, 05:05:56 AM
I agree paying someone 100k a week with the undoubted ability james has we will be seeing him and it's upto him to show Benitez what he has to offer cuz if he's out the picture all the time who the fucks gonna want him anyway? I got a good feeling james has unfinished business with us 

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We had Bernard on 200K a week and the club told him he didnt have any future. Ancelotti was not even allowed to give him chances and he was honest with him about it. Still Bernard was a professional, training well and didnt create any fuzz. But remember what he said when he left to all the "haters" - he was never able to tell the truth. That is how cynical this business is. The narrative became that Bernard was bad and not up to it - but to be fair - the lad never even got the chance to play 4-5 games in a row.

My prediction is that Rodriguez not gonna play a lot, gonna be strange stories about injuries and unfortunately I think James is gonna make a whole lot of more fuzz than what Bernard did.

I do agree that it is crazy to have a world-class player on 100K a week and not use him - but I am sure thats whats gonna happen and that the majority of the fans will hate Rodriguez before we say merry christmas. Cause it is always the club that in the end will win our sympathy. Personally I would have loved him to play in every match but cant see that happening at all. Remember - Benitez was asked about Rodriguez leaving and he said that James knows what I want and hinted that he at least would be an Everton player until deadlineday. When asked about Richarlison he said - Richarlison is NOT gonna leave.

Why on earth should Benitez all of a sudden rate him. He clearly rates Allan, Doucoure, Gomes, Delph, Davies, Townsend, Gray, Richarlison and Gordon higher than Rodriguez...I am convinced he will not get many games if any.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: doolally on September 01, 2021, 05:09:37 AM
We have 18 league games up to and including the game on 1st Jan when the window re-opens. Fingers crossed, Coleman and Digne can stay fit and we should see little impact of others having to step in. Additionally, it also means we may see more of the likes of Gordon, Branthwaite, which for the likes of Gordon could be make or break his longer term future. I’m comfortable that our past misgivings are coming home to to roost but give me some cheaper players who will put an honest shift in, instead of spunking millions up the wall on overrated, overpaid crabs who continue to disappoint. Small mercy’s I know as I hoped for better but it is what it is and I think a reset of our policy was required
Title: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on September 01, 2021, 05:15:53 AM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1432825553988562948

I understand the signing and it makes sense, 2 years with an option for a 3rd though, hopefully we won't need him to play for us until he's 35

onto next summer 2022...

Lonergan
Begovic
Tosun
Delph
Rodriguez
Sigurdsson
Kenny
Braithwaite

all out of contract
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on September 01, 2021, 05:17:35 AM
We had Bernard on 200K a week and the club told him he didnt have any future. Ancelotti was not even allowed to give him chances and he was honest with him about it. Still Bernard was a professional, training well and didnt create any fuzz. But remember what he said when he left to all the "haters" - he was never able to tell the truth. That is how cynical this business is. The narrative became that Bernard was bad and not up to it - but to be fair - the lad never even got the chance to play 4-5 games in a row.

My prediction is that Rodriguez not gonna play a lot, gonna be strange stories about injuries and unfortunately I think James is gonna make a whole lot of more fuzz than what Bernard did.

I do agree that it is crazy to have a world-class player on 100K a week and not use him - but I am sure thats whats gonna happen and that the majority of the fans will hate Rodriguez before we say merry christmas. Cause it is always the club that in the end will win our sympathy. Personally I would have loved him to play in every match but cant see that happening at all. Remember - Benitez was asked about Rodriguez leaving and he said that James knows what I want and hinted that he at least would be an Everton player until deadlineday. When asked about Richarlison he said - Richarlison is NOT gonna leave.

Why on earth should Benitez all of a sudden rate him. He clearly rates Allan, Doucoure, Gomes, Delph, Davies, Townsend, Gray, Richarlison and Gordon higher than Rodriguez...I am convinced he will not get many games if any.

Bernard was on 135k/week. If you're going to continue to post short story nonsense at least have things factually correct.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 01, 2021, 05:54:13 AM
I think James dislikes Benitez enough just to collect his paycheck and do the square root of fuckall.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TrevorSteven on September 01, 2021, 05:55:46 AM
Bernard was on 135k/week. If you're going to continue to post short story nonsense at least have things factually correct.

Yes, you are correct about his wage. :) What else is nonsense my dear friend that never agree with me? Btw, when it comes to James salary I think we also have seen different numers. If I remember correct you think he is on 200K a week?

My point was not the amount of wage anyway - it was that Rodriguez gonna be a story much alike Bernard. He has been told he is not part of the managers plan. Do you actually think that Benitez gonna use Rodriguez alot and/or that he is happy that he still has Rodriguez in his squad?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Shropshire Blue on September 01, 2021, 05:58:34 AM
"my dear friend"

Patronising little bugger aren't you?  :-)
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TrevorSteven on September 01, 2021, 06:08:00 AM
"my dear friend"

Patronising little bugger aren't you?  :-)

Why is it patronising? I have always liked Yankeeblue and especially love his in game analysis where he often is spot on. I dont agree with him on alot of topics but I have no problems with him. If that is patronising I guess his post was quite patronising too - quote: "If you're going to continue to post short story nonsense at least have things factually correct."

Why didnt you react to the retoric in that sentence?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 01, 2021, 06:12:02 AM
I'm ok with this transfer window and we're stronger than before the window, so that's a plus.

Bolasie, Bernard and Walcott all off the books with better replacements in (Gray and Townsend).

Shame it didn't work out for Kean but It's not going to be difficult for Rondon to do better than what Kean did for us.

I think Begovic is a really good 2nd choice keeper and maybe we'll be able to see if Kenny can have a crack and pushing Coleman for that RB position.

Maybe LB is a bit of a worry and I'd have liked to see Nkounkou stay but Godfrey played really well there last season if he needs to deputise and it'll do Nkounkou good to get some regular football.

We didn't lose any important players and that's important.

Don't get me wrong I'd have liked some big name stellar signings, but not just for the sake of it. Looks like we tried with Diaz and we were priced out and maybe we fell a bit unlucky with Patterson isolating.

Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Brownie on September 01, 2021, 06:36:28 AM
The Van Der Beek thing smacks of a bit of desperation to me
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cereal Killer on September 01, 2021, 06:37:31 AM
The Van Der Beek thing smacks of a bit of desperation to me

Did we actually bid? He wouldn’t fit into our system in any way… with got James for that
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: American Evertonian on September 01, 2021, 06:39:56 AM
Honestly think the biggest issue all of this window (while being realistic about expectations) is that we didn't get a RB.

If we signed a quality RB to replace Coleman or one that will take over for him over the course of a year like Digne did - then I think all of us would have been pretty made up with the business.

We shifted out a lot of deadwood (including the contract expirations), made sensible signings, and set ourselves up to make moves in future windows.

Overall I grade the window as a B-/B and it would have been an B+/A- if we got a RB.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: brap2 on September 01, 2021, 06:55:30 AM
Think if at the end of last summer in those heady days of Carlo Fantastico Ancelotti, Allan, Doucoure, James, bevvies in the Titani, truly the salad days, you had said on here - next summer it will be Andros Townsend, Big Sally DonJuan and rafacakes, you would have likely been banned for being a WUM.

That said, I like Rude Ron, always have done, his hold up play is excellent. This isn't like a big albatross deal that kills us for 5 years, it's just short term cover and an experienced head in attack.

Okay a bit odd that once again we've signed lots of our new managers ex players and I don't love that and I'm trying not to focus on that...but at least the targets we knew about where money was involved - Pattsman, Louis D, AMN, they fit...a profile. Young, upside, athletic.

Diaz in particular is a really good sign we are shopping at the right market when we have a bit of dough... we're just also able to add bodies economically.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Omar on September 01, 2021, 07:42:14 AM
Dont get your hopes too high on seeing James Rodriguez.

I think thath Benitez doesnt rate him and will not find any place for him the team. Rodriguez has never spoke about wanting to leave but still he has been ocean away from even being in the squad.

I hope I am wrong but now he will just be approx 100K a week out the window and after some months evertonians will turn against him - like they did with Kean.

It probably a Bernard story once again where the club hopes that lacking regular football will make James pushing for a move in the winter.


This is insane, when James did play, he was the best player on the pitch for us 95% of the time.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: MrWhite on September 01, 2021, 10:01:29 AM
We had Bernard on 200K a week and the club told him he didnt have any future. Ancelotti was not even allowed to give him chances and he was honest with him about it. Still Bernard was a professional, training well and didnt create any fuzz. But remember what he said when he left to all the "haters" - he was never able to tell the truth. That is how cynical this business is. The narrative became that Bernard was bad and not up to it - but to be fair - the lad never even got the chance to play 4-5 games in a row.

My prediction is that Rodriguez not gonna play a lot, gonna be strange stories about injuries and unfortunately I think James is gonna make a whole lot of more fuzz than what Bernard did.

I do agree that it is crazy to have a world-class player on 100K a week and not use him - but I am sure thats whats gonna happen and that the majority of the fans will hate Rodriguez before we say merry christmas. Cause it is always the club that in the end will win our sympathy. Personally I would have loved him to play in every match but cant see that happening at all. Remember - Benitez was asked about Rodriguez leaving and he said that James knows what I want and hinted that he at least would be an Everton player until deadlineday. When asked about Richarlison he said - Richarlison is NOT gonna leave.

Why on earth should Benitez all of a sudden rate him. He clearly rates Allan, Doucoure, Gomes, Delph, Davies, Townsend, Gray, Richarlison and Gordon higher than Rodriguez...I am convinced he will not get many games if any.

OK I'll give it a go and see if I can help you understand why @YankeeBlue214 (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=7173) called it short story nonsense.

Ancelotti not allowed to give him chances? Where have you obtained this info?

What Bernard said to all the "haters", based on him being "unable to tell the truth" you've drawn an entire narrative, while calling other views a narrative.

You think Rodriguez is on £100k a week, another fact which you've pulled from somewhere, this info is not in the public domain and various sources claim a range of things. Unless you've got a copy of his contract?

You are sure the fans will hate him by Christmas because you are sure Benitez will never use him. RB drop you a message on Facebook or something?

Benitez didn't say "he knows what I want" he only said he'd spoken to him. He didn't drop any hints, made it clear he wasnt going to elaborate on the situation after being repeatedly asked about it, and said only we will know after 31st, which we now do.

So, your second and fourth paragraphs make sense, as you've said it's your opinion, which is fine, but the first and third rambling paragraphs containing inaccurate "facts" make your post read as a short story, and nonsensical.

As to being patronising, I know you've said English isn't your first language, so perhaps you don't realise, but in general if someone doesn't get on with you (regardless of whether you like them) and you call then "my dear friend", that signals condescension  in both British and US English.

Hope this clarifies things for you.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Bluedylan on September 01, 2021, 10:29:00 AM
Dont get your hopes too high on seeing James Rodriguez.

I think thath Benitez doesnt rate him and will not find any place for him the team. Rodriguez has never spoke about wanting to leave but still he has been ocean away from even being in the squad.

I hope I am wrong but now he will just be approx 100K a week out the window and after some months evertonians will turn against him - like they did with Kean.

It probably a Bernard story once again where the club hopes that lacking regular football will make James pushing for a move in the winter.

He'll be used for certain games, I would imagine, Trev.

Benitez is a pragmatist. There'll be games that James is ideal for (against stubborn low blocks), and there'll be games that James will get nowhere near (away at front foot, physically dominant teams). And that's fine. Also, from James' perspective that should suit him fairly well too, not playing all the games, having some rests, improving on COD.

Didn't see you around at the weekend for the Brighton game. Were you not able to make it, or was it because us playing really well and winning doesn't fit in with your endless catastrophising?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: wepull on September 01, 2021, 10:38:25 AM
I already like the Rondon signing. Decent goals return in most clubs he has played and majorly because he headbutted that prick Dan Gosling.

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Toddacelli on September 01, 2021, 11:03:11 AM
Quick 5am check to see if we've pulled something amazing off.


Nope.



Can I please get an intervention?



Or at least another fix? I can't wait until January for a RB
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: MrWhite on September 01, 2021, 11:06:14 AM
Quick 5am check to see if we've pulled something amazing off.


Nope.



Can I please get an intervention?



Or at least another fix? I can't wait until January for a RB

I've heard a rumour that Mbappe turned down Real because he's holding out for signing a pre-contract with us in January. We would have outbid them now but our accountant turned purple and had a heart attack so Mosh decided to wait and get him on a free
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Free Agent on September 01, 2021, 12:32:22 PM
Would be funny if Juventus don’t qualify for CL and Moise is back here in 10 months  :snigger:
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: kerryblue boy on September 01, 2021, 12:48:51 PM
All in all we are stronger after the window gray and Townsend have already done more than Bernard and added pace to our team rondon will be a good option off the bench or if dcl gets injured I can’t help be disappointed though that we didn’t get a right back don’t rate jjk and Seamus ain’t getting any younger
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: GLewis on September 01, 2021, 01:21:56 PM
Yeah our attacking options are more suited to the way we want to play now.

I’m disappointed we didn’t get a RB - there’s likely to be plenty of games where it’s pretty painful when either Coleman is injured or off form.

But it is what it is, the main thing will be hoping those games don’t overlap with ones if Digne isn’t available.

CM area, again we’re crossing our fingers but there clearly weren’t the financial options to invest in that area (either big fees, or the fact that we’ve still got 6 senior options there so no wage slots).

With all of these issues, we will be hoping that stricter tactical awareness will mitigate fluctuations in performance levels and also that everyone bears in mind that “nice” football tends to go out the window when you need to be really pragmatic with your selection.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Sir Stealth on September 01, 2021, 01:22:23 PM
I guess we are looking at a squad til January of this. We should be OK I reckon. Probably was a good thing that we hardly spent anything and managed to trim the fat on the squad a bit. Also happy that we kept hold of Richarlison.

Goalkeepers - Pickford, Begovic, Lonergan

Right back - Coleman, Kenny

Left back - Digne, Delph

Centre back - Mina, Godfrey, Keane, Holgate, Branthwaite

Central midfield - Allan, Doucoure, Davies, Gomes, Gbamin

Wingers/attacking mids- Richarlison, Iwobi, Townsend, Gray, Gordon, James

Strikers - Calvert-Lewin, Rondon

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Gash on September 01, 2021, 01:41:15 PM
Think if at the end of last summer in those heady days of Carlo Fantastico Ancelotti, Allan, Doucoure, James, bevvies in the Titani, truly the salad days, you had said on here - next summer it will be Andros Townsend, Big Sally DonJuan and rafacakes, you would have likely been banned for being a WUM.

That said, I like Rude Ron, always have done, his hold up play is excellent. This isn't like a big albatross deal that kills us for 5 years, it's just short term cover and an experienced head in attack.

Okay a bit odd that once again we've signed lots of our new managers ex players and I don't love that and I'm trying not to focus on that...but at least the targets we knew about where money was involved - Pattsman, Louis D, AMN, they fit...a profile. Young, upside, athletic.

Diaz in particular is a really good sign we are shopping at the right market when we have a bit of dough... we're just also able to add bodies economically.

No, but you would have been banned for using stupid names. :)
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 01, 2021, 02:37:52 PM
I guess we are looking at a squad til January of this. We should be OK I reckon. Probably was a good thing that we hardly spent anything and managed to trim the fat on the squad a bit. Also happy that we kept hold of Richarlison.

Goalkeepers - Pickford, Begovic, Lonergan

Right back - Coleman, Kenny

Left back - Digne, Delph

Centre back - Mina, Godfrey, Keane, Holgate, Branthwaite

Central midfield - Allan, Doucoure, Davies, Gomes, Gbamin

Wingers/attacking mids- Richarlison, Iwobi, Townsend, Gray, Gordon, James

Strikers - Calvert-Lewin, Rondon

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How could you forget good old Cenk! He'll be like a new signing 😏
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: sam of the south on September 01, 2021, 02:43:43 PM
I think this is us


                       Pickford
       Coleman Mina Godfrey Digne
                  Doucouré Allan
             Gray James Richarlison
                          DCL
                                 

                      Begovic
     Kenny Keane Holgate Branthwaite
                 Davies Gbamin
                      Gomes
          Townsend Rondon Iwobi


Onyango, Delph, Lonergan, Tosun
                             
                               
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Robioto on September 01, 2021, 02:44:12 PM
I guess we are looking at a squad til January of this. We should be OK I reckon. Probably was a good thing that we hardly spent anything and managed to trim the fat on the squad a bit. Also happy that we kept hold of Richarlison.

Goalkeepers - Pickford, Begovic, Lonergan

Right back - Coleman, Kenny

Left back - Digne, Delph

Centre back - Mina, Godfrey, Keane, Holgate, Branthwaite

Central midfield - Allan, Doucoure, Davies, Gomes, Gbamin

Wingers/attacking mids- Richarlison, Iwobi, Townsend, Gray, Gordon, James

Strikers - Calvert-Lewin, Rondon

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To be fair it's a good squad, with a few holes when it comes to depth. I think we are stronger and more balanced than last season, maybe topping our 59 points from isn't as big of an ask as I thought, especially if we get our home form back on track.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Fynci on September 01, 2021, 02:54:48 PM
I think this is us


                       Pickford
       Coleman Mina Godfrey Digne
                  Doucouré Allan
             Gray James Richarlison
                          DCL
                                 

                      Begovic
     Kenny Keane Holgate Branthwaite
                 Davies Gbamin
                      Gomes
          Townsend Rondon Iwobi


Onyango, Delph, Lonergan, Tosun
                             
                               

Did you miss the memo about James? I don't think the fact he didn't go will change anything. He'll be a sub at best.

I think Mina, Godfrey, and Keane will be rotated at the back, but I would not be surprised to see Godfrey played out of position more often than not. I also can see Iwobi and Townsend in and out of the team, depending on form and fitness.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on September 01, 2021, 02:57:52 PM
I think this is us


                       Pickford
       Coleman Mina Godfrey Digne
                  Doucouré Allan
             Gray James Richarlison
                          DCL
                                 

                      Begovic
     Kenny Keane Holgate Branthwaite
                 Davies Gbamin
                      Gomes
          Townsend Rondon Iwobi


Onyango, Delph, Lonergan, Tosun
                             
                               

I like that, but think Rafa will be more Townsend down the right, Gray down the left/mid and Richarlison closer to DCL. A 433 sneaking to a 4411 :)

They will probably now be working for the January window to get shut of James and find that elusive Coleman replacement. Only 4 months :D
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 01, 2021, 03:12:06 PM
Anyone heard any rumours that we turned down any bids for our better players.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Macca77 on September 01, 2021, 03:28:23 PM
Imagine having to rely on Delph as backup left back hahahaha
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Toffee1 on September 01, 2021, 03:30:56 PM
Didn't Gomes go out on loan, or did I get that wrong?
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on September 01, 2021, 03:33:00 PM
https://twitter.com/bluekippercom/status/1432982890976104450?

makes a change, us at the bottom, Arsenal though my goodness, pressure is on him even more now
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Toffee1 on September 01, 2021, 03:35:09 PM
https://twitter.com/salorondon23/status/1432836675227500548

https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1432829021872660490
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: dazfrancis on September 01, 2021, 03:42:47 PM
Maybe because I grew up in the Moyes era but I'm pretty comfortable with us spending fuck all. Even more so, after wasting millions on players who end up contributing nothing.

And with Gray coming in and having a great start, Richarlison staying and DCL continuing to develop it feels nowhere as bad a some of those Moyes windows were. It feels like a course correction that is long overdue
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: bigdunc9 on September 01, 2021, 03:52:57 PM
Really happy with our business in the transfer window.
We have seen for the last how ever many years throwing big money about and it not improving us.
With the manager and recruitment this summer it feels like a more organised and balanced team, kind of reminds me of the Moyes days, which lets be honest were our best since the premier league began.
I feel with most of the deadwood on big contracts gone now we are finally starting a fresh start from the previous years of poor buys.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: MmmblueBernard on September 01, 2021, 03:55:36 PM
So Everton spent £1.4m. People forget we’ve got a new stadium to finance as well as stay afloat in the premier league.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: MmmblueBernard on September 01, 2021, 03:56:28 PM
To add to that, we didn’t sell Richarlison…… which is great news IMO.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Sir Stealth on September 01, 2021, 04:00:43 PM
How could you forget good old Cenk! He'll be like a new signing
Haha well I did say til Jan

But to be honest I did genuinely forget about him!

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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Sixx1402 on September 01, 2021, 04:01:35 PM
Shame about Diaz as he looks exciting. Could have really done with a RB as well but it's done now.

I think we'll be fine, the squad looks decent and we've had a good start.

It could turn sour with a couple of bad injuries to key players so we've got to hope for luck on that front
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: TrevorSteven on September 01, 2021, 04:06:47 PM
OK I'll give it a go and see if I can help you understand why @YankeeBlue214 (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=7173) called it short story nonsense.

Ancelotti not allowed to give him chances? Where have you obtained this info?

What Bernard said to all the "haters", based on him being "unable to tell the truth" you've drawn an entire narrative, while calling other views a narrative.

You think Rodriguez is on £100k a week, another fact which you've pulled from somewhere, this info is not in the public domain and various sources claim a range of things. Unless you've got a copy of his contract?

You are sure the fans will hate him by Christmas because you are sure Benitez will never use him. RB drop you a message on Facebook or something?

Benitez didn't say "he knows what I want" he only said he'd spoken to him. He didn't drop any hints, made it clear he wasnt going to elaborate on the situation after being repeatedly asked about it, and said only we will know after 31st, which we now do.

So, your second and fourth paragraphs make sense, as you've said it's your opinion, which is fine, but the first and third rambling paragraphs containing inaccurate "facts" make your post read as a short story, and nonsensical.

As to being patronising, I know you've said English isn't your first language, so perhaps you don't realise, but in general if someone doesn't get on with you (regardless of whether you like them) and you call then "my dear friend", that signals condescension  in both British and US English.

Hope this clarifies things for you.  :thumbsup:


As a fan we can only assume and speculate about what is going on behind the doors of Everton Football Club, so as everybody else I have no clue about what is really going on.

My main point was that I do not think that we will see a lot of James Rodriguez this season. I think it is fair to assume based on what actually has been said in press conferences and what has been leaked by press and what Rodriguez himself has said - that he is not in the plans of Rafael Benitez and that the club tried to get rid of him.

There is always a possibility that Benitez will be pragmatic now that they didnt manage to offload him and that he will sit down with James and try to calm down what looks (from the outside) like a conflict. It is also possible that the club itself will tell Benitez not to play Rodriguez. It is naive to think that it isnt any form for politics and conflict of interest inside a club like Everton. Just look at Maitland-Niles and how he suddenly got excluded from training with the first team.

We have had a lot of high earners at the club the latest years that actually just been told not to attend first team trainings as they are concluded not part of the future of the club. As a fan it is easy to think that it is a waste of resources if Everton decide not to use his qualities as we are obliged to pay his salary but for the club it is fair to believe they have a lot of other factors to evaluate.

My GUESS is that we will see very few - if any - appearances from James this season as Benitez clearly doesnt rate him or do see him as a valuable asset to the squad. Personaly I hope we will see a lot of him as I think he is pure quality and if we do not see him too much I personally also think that one of the main problems at our club is not only how mismanaged we have been with transfers but also how difficult it seems for Everton to get the best out of obvious talent like James and like Kean i.e

That being said I do respect that other people have different opinion and speculate different about what is going on behind closed doors.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: sam of the south on September 01, 2021, 04:18:56 PM
Did you miss the memo about James? I don't think the fact he didn't go will change anything. He'll be a sub at best.

I think Mina, Godfrey, and Keane will be rotated at the back, but I would not be surprised to see Godfrey played out of position more often than not. I also can see Iwobi and Townsend in and out of the team, depending on form and fitness.

Yeah, would be a potentially amazing front 4, though, wouldn’t it
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: ajax_andy on September 01, 2021, 04:40:19 PM
https://twitter.com/bluekippercom/status/1432982890976104450?

makes a change, us at the bottom, Arsenal though my goodness, pressure is on him even more now

Delighted by that tbh.  To think we've spent that little and are actually stronger than we were last season.  You'd imagine we're looking at a similar if not slightly better league finish at the end of the season, and getting our finances in order for a decent summer window next year.  Good sensible business, especially when you compare it to Arsenal and their spending and the cluster fuck of a club they are!
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Robioto on September 01, 2021, 05:00:45 PM
Didn't Gomes go out on loan, or did I get that wrong?

Was a rumour from a chancer on Twitter that gathered pace, reports suggest it was never on the cards at all.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Juanito on September 01, 2021, 05:04:07 PM
I am happy with it (apart from right back) as we have a growing sense of identity and purpose. I remember watching us play a Europa league game with Sigurdsson, Klassen, and Ashley Williams and thinking we had no soul.  We are on the right track and hopefully we can secure a young dynamic right back in January. Delph can do one, too.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: UncleCarlosJustPlay on September 01, 2021, 05:04:32 PM
Does anyone know where this window leaves us going forwards. How far off are we righting the previous craziness. Obviously we still have a few players we don't want on our books but this time next year another 4 or 5 of them will be gone. Will we then be in a reasonable position going forwards
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Blue Lagoon on September 01, 2021, 05:18:35 PM
Was a rumour from a chancer on Twitter that gathered pace, reports suggest it was never on the cards at all.
I’m actually quite pleased about that


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Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: UncleCarlosJustPlay on September 01, 2021, 06:57:36 PM
Just realised Ross barkley got stuck at Chelsea without a number. Made me smile
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Cereal Killer on September 01, 2021, 08:20:10 PM
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/statistik/endendevertraege

Lots of players out of contract in the summer, could see us signing a few like Brooks, Longstaff, Mazraoui and Nketiah and keeping the expenditure down again
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: kerryblue boy on September 01, 2021, 10:28:07 PM
Hard to believe PSG wouldn’t let mbappe go and risk losing him for nothing in January
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 01, 2021, 10:29:43 PM
Karma is real for Chelsea and Barkley both, in this instance.

Let's hope the delayed gratification era leads to fewer tummy aches than "eat all the desert first."
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Omar on September 01, 2021, 11:54:51 PM
Hard to believe PSG wouldn’t let mbappe go and risk losing him for nothing in January

Yeah, 200M and they have Messi and Neymar in the squad already? That's bananas.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Old England Toffee on September 02, 2021, 12:08:47 AM
Yeah, 200M and they have Messi and Neymar in the squad already? That's bananas.
Could be that PSG give him contract with high signing on fee and low release. That way mbappe (or empapay as Merson says) gets his move and some cash and PSG receive a fee. There’s also talk as well that it was all for show. Real never had the cash or the willing to buy him was all just bravado.
Title: Re: Deadline Day Aug 2021
Post by: Silas on September 02, 2021, 01:25:46 AM
Really right back aside great transfer work righting a lot of wrongs in the squad and retaining our best players.