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Title: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on March 15, 2017, 12:11:08 AM
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39273691
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 15, 2017, 12:14:23 AM
https://twitter.com/GregOK/status/841713430901989376
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 15, 2017, 12:14:25 AM
Brace yourselves for the fume is coming
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Robioto on March 15, 2017, 12:16:22 AM
Fucking hell... My heart just sunk. :(
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ell Capitan on March 15, 2017, 12:17:43 AM
Can't really blame him if he leaves. He's already given us more than he had to given how poorly things panned out with our form.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: TheRam on March 15, 2017, 12:17:51 AM
The good journos are reporting this.

Paul Joyce and Dominic King to name two.

This is real.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Gumpinio on March 15, 2017, 12:18:04 AM
Its not the biggest shock in the world.  He has made no secret that he sees us as a stepping stone on his journey to superstardom.
If he leaves us for a good fee, to play week in week out for a champions league regular then good luck to him.  I just hope we insert a buy back clause of some description so if it goes tits up we can bring him back for a relatively sensible fee
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 15, 2017, 12:21:10 AM
Is anyone really surprised. He's made no secret of the fact that he thought he was better than our level and to be fair to him he's finally performing at a level that has the top sides interested
Think him and his agent have tried to "pull a fast 1" and we've stood firm. They wanted the pay rise and a release clause what teams would happily trigger in the summer. Can't even blame them for that. He's entitled to try and negotiate the best deal he can

This is unfortunately how football works. What's vitally important is that we get the best deal we can if he stays or goes. Be a blow if we lose him but life goes on.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on March 15, 2017, 12:22:14 AM
FFS ! How many threads do we need for this topic ! We get it, he's going !
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on March 15, 2017, 12:25:26 AM
FFS ! How many threads do we need for this topic ! We get it, he's going !

This is the only one I reckon. the other one is about him staying
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on March 15, 2017, 12:26:58 AM
This is the only one I reckon. the other one is about him staying

Which is why we have a thread "who to replace Lukaku I suppose"
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: velimski on March 15, 2017, 12:27:21 AM
FFS ! How many threads do we need for this topic ! We get it, he's going !

Around 70,000
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on March 15, 2017, 12:28:35 AM
Which is why we have a thread "who to replace Lukaku I suppose"

That is about who to replace him with. Again totally different. But at least you figuring out what bold bit at the top of the thread is starting to mean.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on March 15, 2017, 12:29:21 AM
Best player we have had at this club for about 30 years though. And I am basing this on his performances for us
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 15, 2017, 12:30:50 AM
FFS ! How many threads do we need for this topic ! We get it, he's going !

One per NSNO member
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on March 15, 2017, 12:31:43 AM
That is about who to replace him with. Again totally different. But at least you figuring out what bold bit at the top of the thread is starting to mean.

I think that most people of average intelligence would have figured out that he was leaving if we talk about who to replace him with but maybe not.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on March 15, 2017, 12:31:44 AM
2 yrs left on his current contract.

Either he stays or we get mega money for him.

It's win-win.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on March 15, 2017, 12:33:42 AM
2 yrs left on his current contract.

Either he stays or we get mega money for him.

It's win-win.

Will end up doing a Stones.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on March 15, 2017, 12:33:48 AM
2 yrs left on his current contract.

Either he stays or we get mega money for him.

It's win-win.

Or he runs it down for 2 years
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 15, 2017, 12:33:49 AM
2 yrs left on his current contract.

Either he stays or we get mega money for him.

It's win-win.

Exactly, 70 million minimum
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blueToffee on March 15, 2017, 12:34:30 AM
No two ways about it, crappy news.

Also, I wonder what this will do to our end of season aspirations. It's going to bring out some negativity among the fans you'd assume. Just when I was starting to enjoy match days again.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: pedrotheblue on March 15, 2017, 12:40:02 AM
The only way he gets the move he wants is if he continues to bang em in for us, that said he's already shown over the past few years what he's capable of. What this now does is force our hand to accept any "reasonable" bids in the sumer i.e 60m plus, or risk him running his contract down next season. When exactly does his contract run out, this time 2019?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluebridge on March 15, 2017, 12:45:42 AM
Or he runs it down for 2 years
And we end up with him for two years banging in the goals, not a bad return for £28m, yes he'll have a hissy fit, but I reckon that wouldn't last too long, because he's a very professional player. We can't be bullied anymore financially.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Cereal Killer on March 15, 2017, 12:45:58 AM
Keep him as long as possible

If we're actually battling for the top 4 next season (fingers crossed) then he can sign a contract then

Worth the gamble of that rather than flogging him ASAP
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ross on March 15, 2017, 12:48:47 AM
Annabel on North West Tonight just confirmed it.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluebridge on March 15, 2017, 12:51:23 AM
Annabel on North West Tonight just confirmed it.
That's it then, Who is Annabel anyway?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ross on March 15, 2017, 12:52:31 AM
That's it then, Who is Annabel anyway?

The one who sits by Rodger.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: bluenuck on March 15, 2017, 12:53:16 AM
2 yrs left on his current contract.

Either he stays or we get mega money for him.

It's win-win.

Why would he stay past this summer making about 60k less a week then he could be making if he signed that contract?

he's gone this summer.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Everton Mint on March 15, 2017, 12:54:41 AM
I think this means he's going this Summer... he wants CL football and he wants it asap.

The two shit seasons going backwards under Martinez have cost us our chance to get there in time with Rom.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluebridge on March 15, 2017, 12:55:29 AM
The one who sits by Rodger.
That's cleared that up, Thanks Ross ;)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Simon Paul on March 15, 2017, 12:57:51 AM
the club will take exactly the same line as they did last summer

£75m or he stays

there will be interest at around £50m and he may put in a transfer request when that comes along, and we'll bump it up to about £60m if we're lucky.  he agreed to stay last summer based on Koeman saying we'd get European football.

then we enjoy a summer of rumours about who we're buying to replace him
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on March 15, 2017, 01:01:29 AM
Why would he stay past this summer making about 60k less a week then he could be making if he signed that contract?

he's gone this summer.

Well strictly speaking we could simply refuse to sell him, he has no release clause, he then has two options, keep banging them in and increase his market value then leave as a free agent at 25 or throw a hissy, down tools, end up on the bench at best and in two years everyone will have forgotten about him.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Simon Paul on March 15, 2017, 01:02:14 AM
Well strictly speaking we could simply refuse to sell him, he has no release clause, he then has two options, keep banging them in and increase his market value then leave as a free agent at 25 or throw a hissy, down tools, end up on the bench at best and in two years everyone will have forgotten about him.

World Cup year next year, he ain't sitting on the bench wondering what could have been

Everton hold all the cards here
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blue1948 on March 15, 2017, 01:03:07 AM
Well strictly speaking we could simply refuse to sell him, he has no release clause, he then has two options, keep banging them in and increase his market value then leave as a free agent at 25 or throw a hissy, down tools, end up on the bench at best and in two years everyone will have forgotten about him.

Do you ever read back the dribble that you write ?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 15, 2017, 01:04:35 AM
Who could afford him?

City
Chelsea
United
Arsenal
PSG
Barca
Real

All shite  lolol
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on March 15, 2017, 01:04:58 AM
World Cup year next year, he ain't sitting on the bench wondering what could have been

Everton hold all the cards here

That's exactly what I meant, we hold the cards although Martinez would still take him to the World Cup even if he were cleaning boots.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 15, 2017, 01:05:44 AM
World Cup year next year, he ain't sitting on the bench wondering what could have been

Everton hold all the cards here

Correct, people need to calm down a bit
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on March 15, 2017, 01:06:19 AM
Do you ever read back the dribble that you write ?

Could you clarify ? Serious request.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Everton Mint on March 15, 2017, 01:12:23 AM
Fan reaction at the games could be a factor. What will happen when his name's read out or when he scores could push things either way...
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Simon Paul on March 15, 2017, 01:14:00 AM
That's exactly what I meant, we hold the cards although Martinez would still take him to the World Cup even if he were cleaning boots.

yeah but Rom knows he'd be shit like he has been the last two major tournaments and he'd much rather that didn't happen again

imagine being dropped for Origi or Benteke again after this season!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: bluenose27 on March 15, 2017, 01:16:31 AM
He never seems to be over happy when playing for us and doesn't show any  passion or respect for our club and all the hype he is now getting has added to him thinking even more so that he is better than he is. He has improved this season but last season he was poor particularly in the last 3rd! Would love him to stay but if he goes at least we get good money to get someone else!

 Lets be in no doubt if he doesn't sign this new contract he will be sold provided that our asking price is met.
 
We need to sort out who is going to replace him and go and get them. This will probably hasten Rooney's arrival and in such circumstances he would be of use as a striker together with another expensive aquisition .

Think keeping our manager is far more important to continue on our current progressive path 
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: sam of the south on March 15, 2017, 01:16:51 AM
World Cup year next year, he ain't sitting on the bench wondering what could have been

Everton hold all the cards here

Do you think we do, though?

I mean, as you said, if we say we will accept £75m, but then he hands in a transfer request, don't you think we would then accept a lot less than £75m?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: charlatan on March 15, 2017, 01:21:21 AM
No great surprise.  The fact that the contract has been "99% done" since about October tells you all you need to know.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: eame on March 15, 2017, 01:23:05 AM
Maybe I'm missing something here but regardless if he signs a new contract or not if someone stumps up the money for him then he's gone. He wants champions league footie, which I don't blame him for, its what we all want init. I think nothing has changed really, players these days hold all the cards and their agents are rats pure and simple.

I think, well hope, the days clubs could come along and bully us have long gone (apparently we only sold stones because Martinez had promised him he would) I am prepared to sit this one out and trust in the new leadership of the club.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mayor Farnum on March 15, 2017, 01:25:41 AM
World Cup year next year, he ain't sitting on the bench wondering what could have been

Everton hold all the cards here

Clubs never win in these situations. If he wants to go he will go.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: chang on March 15, 2017, 01:27:31 AM
 Takes me just shy of seven years to earn £140,000

 :eh:

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on March 15, 2017, 01:27:52 AM
He never seems to be over happy when playing for us and doesn't show any  passion or respect for our club and all the hype he is now getting has added to him thinking even more so that he is better than he is. He has improved this season but last season he was poor particularly in the last 3rd! Would love him to stay but if he goes at least we get good money to get someone else!

 Lets be in no doubt if he doesn't sign this new contract he will be sold provided that our asking price is met.
 
We need to sort out who is going to replace him and go and get them. This will probably hasten Rooney's arrival and in such circumstances he would be of use as a striker together with another expensive aquisition .

Think keeping our manager is far more important to continue on our current progressive path

You make a good point there, he has never shown any great happiness or "kiss the badge" style passion, his demeanour after scoring is more of a "businesslike" response, I.e. This is my job, this is what I do.
And yes Blue48 , I have read back this drivel before posting.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueBeagle on March 15, 2017, 01:29:47 AM
As I said in the other thread, announcing the deal was as good as done before he's actually signed was an absolute no win situation.

Now we look like fucking idiots again after 'Evertons best mate' Jim White was spouting off last week the deal was as good as sealed.

Ridiculous state of affairs but somewhat typically comical Everton.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blueToffee on March 15, 2017, 01:29:56 AM
I think this means he's going this Summer... he wants CL football and he wants it asap.

The two shit seasons going backwards under Martinez have cost us our chance to get there in time with Rom.

I thought when Martinez went backwards in the second season we'd lost our window of opportunity to keep the better players happy. I was kinda surprised he stuck around going into this season, I was almost resigned to him going. It's just a shame when we're finally seeing progress we get this happen.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 15, 2017, 01:30:44 AM
Everton do hold the cards.  No deals with any Prem clubs except Chelsea or City, and only if selling us Batshuayi or Ihenacho (respectively) is part of the deal.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Polledreng on March 15, 2017, 01:31:20 AM
Will end up doing a Stones.
Hope so..... We really did a good job there. never ever will he be a 50m £ player
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: TheTone on March 15, 2017, 01:31:27 AM
saying no to 140K a week eh, bloody hell, think I preferred when we was skint
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on March 15, 2017, 01:32:45 AM
saying no to 140K a week eh, bloody hell, think I preferred when we was skint

In fairness to the lad, it's not at all about the money.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on March 15, 2017, 01:41:08 AM
In fairness to the lad, it's not at all about the money.

Remember this !

Romelu Lukaku: Everton boss Ronald Koeman says striker should leave
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37928353
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: benny on March 15, 2017, 01:42:17 AM
In fairness to the lad, it's not at all about the money.
          but if he had signed the contract wouldn`t that have put up his selling value for the club
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on March 15, 2017, 01:44:32 AM
          but if he had signed the contract wouldn`t that have put up his selling value for the club

The contract had a £90 million pound release clause which is why he wouldn't sign as that was as good as golden handcuffs.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Tinga on March 15, 2017, 01:47:03 AM
As I said in the other thread, announcing the deal was as good as done before he's actually signed was an absolute no win situation.

Now we look like fucking idiots again after 'Evertons best mate' Jim White was spouting off last week the deal was as good as sealed.

Ridiculous state of affairs but somewhat typically comical Everton.

Yup. No matter what happens we always find a way to make a joke out of ourselves.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: TrevorSteven on March 15, 2017, 01:48:39 AM
In all fairness it for sure has not been about the money. Its all been about securing Lukaku a move. Everybody knows that he wanted it last year, but as his agent said it is only a handfull of clubs that can afford him. Its been a neat strategy from his agent to alert potential suitors about him close to renew his contract and then nicely turn it down to make everybody a statement - he is leaving.

I think it is very important that fans still cheer for him when he scores and that the club handles this in a professional manner. Its right that Lukaku never kiss the badge or something like that, but its clear for everybody that this is not an emotional guy with a lot of passion - it is more an academic man with a pragmatic approach to his profession and a man with huge ambitions in the game.

In a football world so completely run by business, press and money all players now have grown up with the belief that playing in Champions League is the best thing to do. Its not right, if that was the case a lot of players would have played for FC Copenhagen. In a game with so much attention it is clearly the Premier League which is the best place to be. You get the money, you get passionate fans, its competetive and you get the attention making you feel like Donald Trump.

Thats the card Everton and us as fans has. We should give Lukaku respect but we should ask him to give us respect too, so here is the message I hope we can deliver him:

Lukaku we respect you and your ambitions, you need and desire for Champions League football. We cannot give you that right now, but we need you to understand that we have the same ambitions. Due to our ambitions we kindly ask you to respect that its hard for this club to sell you to a club that can make it harder for us to realise those ambitions. We will sell you as you want but only for a decent fee to a club not competing for the Champions League places we compete for.

I think thats a message Lukaku should understand. It would be crazy to sell Lukaku to Chelsea or Man United and I think Everton and its fans is reasonable in demanding this respect in return. Lets hope he keeps scoring, lets hope us celebrate with him and lets hope we get that big banner up saying: "We respect your ambitions - now respect ours - move abroad"
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Paddockoldie on March 15, 2017, 01:49:11 AM
Maybe he's just forcing our hand with the get out clause.. if we agree it he may sign but I'm just grabbing straws. What pisses me off is how it might upset the team especially with the derby on the horizon... just when you thought eh?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on March 15, 2017, 01:50:24 AM
Yup. No matter what happens we always find a way to make a joke out of ourselves.

The club never announced the deal was done, only his agent and Jim White, Koeman has always been sceptical.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Tinga on March 15, 2017, 01:51:16 AM
The club never announced the deal was done, only his agent and Jim White, Koeman has always been sceptical.

You'd have thought we'd have pulled Jim White aside after last time, the soft cunt.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on March 15, 2017, 01:51:53 AM
Clubs never win in these situations. If he wants to go he will go.

We win 60M plus
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on March 15, 2017, 01:52:26 AM
Everton were never going to let Stones and Lukaku go in one window. Lukaku was always going to stay on for a further season.
It will be the same again this time next year when a contract extension for Koeman remains unsigned.

Moshiri need to take full ownership of the club and get his own people in. Secondly get the ground issue nipped in the bud and get us moved into a new stadium within 3-5 years. The rest will follow and we can then look to become one of the elite clubs in the PL where players can fulfill there dreams and ambitions at Everton.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 15, 2017, 01:52:57 AM
We win 60M plus

70 million plus, the ball remains firmly in our court here
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: TheTone on March 15, 2017, 01:54:34 AM
We win 60M plus

Yeah but then shit teams like watford will start looking for 30M for the likes of Troy Deeney, we're going to get fleeced whoever we go for
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: TrevorSteven on March 15, 2017, 01:59:30 AM
The club never announced the deal was done, only his agent and Jim White, Koeman has always been sceptical.

Exactly! The club has never spoken about a contract being imminent. This is Lukakus agents work and its totally ok in my eyes. Now Everton just has to convince Lukaku that our demand of not selling him to another english club is accepted and Raiola can try as hard as he wants to find a club in Italy, Germany or Spain that are willing to offer him 100-200K a week plus 80M fee. This will first become ugly if Lukaku tries to force a move to Chelsea, Arsenal, City, United or Tottenham. Ofcourse that is probably his aim, but if Everton act fast it will become harder for him to do that.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: TheTone on March 15, 2017, 02:00:33 AM
Everton were never going to let Stones and Lukaku go in one window. Lukaku was always going to stay on for a further season.
It will be the same again this time next year when a contract extension for Koeman remains unsigned.

Moshiri need to take full ownership of the club and get his own people in. Secondly get the ground issue nipped in the bud and get us moved into a new stadium within 3-5 years. The rest will follow and we can then look to become one of the elite clubs in the PL where players can fulfill there dreams and ambitions at Everton.

yeah next up will be Koeman off to Arsenal and Gana or Schneiderlin one of his first signings, we're just like Southampton really, 7th to 10th place finishes for years to come
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueBeagle on March 15, 2017, 02:01:21 AM
You'd have thought we'd have pulled Jim White aside after last time, the soft cunt.

That daft prick is too close for comfort.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 15, 2017, 02:04:21 AM
The likely events are that Raiola has got word from one of the obvious clubs that they'll definitely come in for him.

I guess it was far from certain before hence no point not talking about a new deal.

As such there remains the possibility that they'll pull out and they'll be lots of "convinced by the project" lines.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 15, 2017, 02:04:47 AM
I don't think he ever really intended to stay. He wanted to have his cake and eat it. Sign a contract with a huge pay rise and a release clause that meant he'd leave in the summer anyway.

Lad has been nothing but honest really and there's never been a pretence that he didn't see his future elsewhere

Let's just get a huge fee if we doesn't want to sign a contract that works for us and move on.

Life goes on. We survived rooney leaving. We survived stones leaving. We survived lineker leaving. Thrived all 3 times in fact.
With or without lukaku we will be a better team next season than this because we have the board and management team in place to make sure we are
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: burkey17 on March 15, 2017, 02:05:48 AM
I think this comment puts everything into perspective 'if Suarez can leave the Red shite, Bale can leave Tottenham,Ronaldo can leave Man Utd well he can leave us'
I'm not happy at all about it but what's pissed me off is that we have 10 games to go and unfortunately I think the 'lizards' in our fanbase will bring a negative atmosphere to and around the Ground.Also just before playing that lot!
Just when I was enjoying going the game again! I should know better!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 15, 2017, 02:05:57 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/m/status/841740776363159552
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Toddacelli on March 15, 2017, 02:12:53 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/m/status/841740776363159552

It's the hope that kills you...
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Cereal Killer on March 15, 2017, 02:13:26 AM
Let's just hope we don't go full kopite and start booing him on Saturday.....
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 15, 2017, 02:15:12 AM
Let's just hope we don't go full kopite and start booing him on Saturday.....

We would never go full kopite
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Simon Paul on March 15, 2017, 02:16:48 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/m/status/841740776363159552

knew we should have just tweeted this instead of writing a full story!

10 minutes it took!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 15, 2017, 02:21:22 AM
It's the hope that kills you...

Hope in one hand, shit in the other, see which gets full first...
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 15, 2017, 02:26:05 AM
knew we should have just tweeted this instead of writing a full story!

10 minutes it took!

Let that be a lesson to you
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 15, 2017, 02:26:16 AM
All fairly standard and to be expected.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Simon Paul on March 15, 2017, 02:26:44 AM
Let that be a lesson to you

still rather own our content than shell it out on Twitter first though

but that's a whole nother conversation!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: TrevorSteven on March 15, 2017, 02:27:54 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/m/status/841740776363159552

Ofcourse it is. It is obvious that club and player cant agree about release clause but Lukaku hope to get a pay rise and a clause that gives him the opportunity to leave if someone wants him and Everton want a release clause so high that it will calm interest in the player down.

Rumours says Lukaku wants it at max 60M and Everton want it close to 90M...what is reported is that Lukaku probably turned down a 90M buyout clause. Media of course makes it a story about wanting to leave, because in fact that is in the end what he wants to do.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Gash on March 15, 2017, 02:29:49 AM
So is this genuine "Sky sources" or is it a rehash from the little know interview he did where he said "no" three times?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 15, 2017, 02:31:52 AM
So is this genuine "Sky sources" or is it a rehash from the little know interview he did where he said "no" three times?
Isn't that out of the Bible?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Brownie20 on March 15, 2017, 02:33:19 AM
Isn't that out of the Bible?

Mark's gospel I think
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Toddacelli on March 15, 2017, 02:33:35 AM
Isn't that out of the Bible?

Nay, nay and thrice nay?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 15, 2017, 02:34:23 AM
60 and 90 are both a bit ridiculous. We need a clause in excess of what someone would play today and he needs 1 that is likely to be paid with reasonable improvement in the near future. 75-80 seems fair.
60 gets him a pay rise and a move in the summer and 90 and there might as well not be a clause at all
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: toshyboy on March 15, 2017, 02:36:08 AM
Ofcourse it is. It is obvious that club and player cant agree about release clause but Lukaku hope to get a pay rise and a clause that gives him the opportunity to leave if someone wants him and Everton want a release clause so high that it will calm interest in the player down.

Rumours says Lukaku wants it at max 60M and Everton want it close to 90M...what is reported is that Lukaku probably turned down a 90M buyout clause. Media of course makes it a story about wanting to leave, because in fact that is in the end what he wants to do.

This

I fully expect a new deal to be signed by the weekend. This whole story will be his agent leaking it, to drive the release clause down.

It makes no sense for it not to be signed by Rom. Short term pay rise and the  release clause guarantees he goes when  he wants subject to the price being met.

Can't envisage it not being done before hull and having the fans on his case
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 15, 2017, 02:37:00 AM
Keep him for one more season at least, and see how the situation stands next summer. If we have to sell him then for £30-40m, so be it. I'd keep him and try to strentghen significantly this summer.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ross on March 15, 2017, 02:38:59 AM
Nay, nay and thrice nay?

Think it Lukaku sounded more like this....



Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Gash on March 15, 2017, 02:40:22 AM
Isn't that out of the Bible?

Fuck knows, you'll need to ask Running Blue about that one. :)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: velimski on March 15, 2017, 02:43:22 AM
Keep him for one more season at least, and see how the situation stands next summer. If we have to sell him then for £30-40m, so be it. I'd keep him and try to strentghen significantly this summer.

Trouble with that is that it would essentially be costing Everton at least £30m per season to keep him.

If in 12 months time he's still here (with the current 12 months on his contract), then he could easily run the final year of his contract down which means you've 'lost' £60m+ in the space of 2 years.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Simon Paul on March 15, 2017, 02:46:19 AM
Trouble with that is that it would essentially be costing Everton at least £30m per season to keep him.

If in 12 months time he's still here (with the current 12 months on his contract), then he could easily run the final year of his contract down which means you've 'lost' £60m+ in the space of 2 years.

unless he's smashing them in to try and prove a point and we get through to the group stages of the Champions League, that is
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on March 15, 2017, 02:50:36 AM
Trouble with that is that it would essentially be costing Everton at least £30m per season to keep him.

If in 12 months time he's still here (with the current 12 months on his contract), then he could easily run the final year of his contract down which means you've 'lost' £60m+ in the space of 2 years.

I reckon 20+ league goals and touching 30 in all comps is something i would probably pay £30m a year for to be honest.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: velimski on March 15, 2017, 02:54:35 AM
I reckon 20+ league goals and touching 30 in all comps is something i would probably pay £30m a year for to be honest.

So would I if it wasn't my own money.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 15, 2017, 02:54:37 AM
The thing that relaxes me about all of this is that Everton don't get mugged off by anyone. We drive a very hard bargain, so the club's interests will be protected whatever happens.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: fubarruk on March 15, 2017, 03:07:46 AM
The thing that relaxes me about all of this is that Everton don't get mugged off by anyone. We drive a very hard bargain, so the club's interests will be protected whatever happens.
Absolutely this. The club won't lose on this deal.

He'll be a loss obviously but the club have been exemplary in this, put a big offer on the table but seemingly refused to budge when he wanted to insert a clause which still got him out if a better offer come along.

He stays with is on his current 'low' wage still knowing he needs to put in big performances if he wants a big move and a world cup next summer = Everton win

Whenbthe time comes to sell him we get massive money, we don't let players leave on the cheap, especially not this one = Everton win

It was inevitable he would leave at some point, it's clearly going to be on our terms
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ball8y on March 15, 2017, 03:16:59 AM
We can always pull Niasse back from Hull
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: ally2 on March 15, 2017, 03:50:30 AM
I got angry about this 18 months ago when Martinez was running us into the ground. Oh well. Happy if he stays but if not then I hope we can share the burden of goals and assists through the team instead. We have a manager I believe can do this.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 15, 2017, 04:01:56 AM
Cash in move on
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ell Capitan on March 15, 2017, 04:04:33 AM
The thing that relaxes me about all of this is that Everton don't get mugged off by anyone. We drive a very hard bargain, so the club's interests will be protected whatever happens.

Rooney, Arteta, Mori and Niasse all say hi.

 But yes, broadly I agree with your point.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 15, 2017, 04:14:57 AM
https://twitter.com/PhilipPitcher/status/841774104223092736
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 15, 2017, 04:18:11 AM
Rooney, Arteta, Mori and Niasse all say hi.

 But yes, broadly I agree with your point.


We don't sell cheap. Arteta and Rooney were both good deals imo.

We haven't been too bad at spending it over the years either. We haven't wasted nearly as much money as most prem clubs on failed players.

I rate Mori highly and believe he'll be worth a lot more than we paid in a few years and we will see something back for Niasse aswell and possibly a good price if he bags a few more for hull.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blue1948 on March 15, 2017, 10:13:40 AM
Could you clarify ? Serious request.

well firstly no one would leave him on the bench and secondly no one would forget him
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blue1948 on March 15, 2017, 10:32:30 AM
my view is that there is no way he will sign a buy-out clause that prices him out of the market ,those who expect that have their heads up their rear ends and why isn't he being offered 200,000 a week ? That is the least a top striker gets and will be the figure he will sign for when he moves .
If we are to be one of the elite that is where we need to change ,I know someone will quote fair play rules and blowing all our budget and if that is the case he must go as simple as that .He is as good as Linekar and younger and he will be a great player so of course I would love him to stay but he has had it in his mind and sadly will continue to .What would change is only his bank account nothing more
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ramjam on March 15, 2017, 11:16:39 AM
I can see the Lukaku shirts getting burned  on Saturday then he signs his new deal on Monday
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Goaljira on March 15, 2017, 12:24:06 PM
He's a player that is good enough to play for the top top teams in Europe, who pay their players top top wages.

£140k p/w sounds a lot to us, and is possibly all we can afford right now.  If he knows he can earn £60k extra per week, then that's £15m over a 5 year deal.  This isn't Rooney at the end of a career where he's earned £m's, so you can't expect him to take less than his market value just to play for Everton?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 15, 2017, 12:37:20 PM
I don't think it'll be anything to do with money. It'll be the release clause.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: TheRam on March 15, 2017, 02:05:35 PM
Nothing bores me more than a contract saga.

Especially when the words 'release clause' pop up
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on March 15, 2017, 02:18:18 PM
Nothing bores me more than a contract saga.

Especially when the words 'release clause' pop up

I wonder when the first "give him whatever release clause he wants, we don't have to agree to it and tere'll be plenty of clubs entering a bidding war for him anyway" shouts will appear?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on March 15, 2017, 02:22:46 PM
As I understand it we want a release clause of £90 million, he wants £70 million, give it to him FFS ! If we don't then we go through the whole summer of discontent with stupid bids coming in and being rejected before he finally goes leaving us with no time for a replacement. With the new contract we are guaranteed £70 million, all interested parties know that , first one in that offers £70 million and he's gone.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Rhys on March 15, 2017, 02:51:07 PM
Keep him for one more season at least, and see how the situation stands next summer. If we have to sell him then for £30-40m, so be it. I'd keep him and try to strentghen significantly this summer.

If that's the plan might as well agree to the release clause of 60-65 have him for one more year and sell him like Liverpool did with Suarez and still get a good amount which is how I think it will end unless he has concrete interest from one of the big clubs now. We either do that or sell him this summer for me and try and get around 80m.

But I could definitely see us giving in on the release clause side, him getting 140k a week for the next 12 months with a 60-65m release clause and him going next year. He gets the extra money for a year, we keep him the extra year without losing him for an amount Troy deeney had a bid rejected for and it builds his chances of more people wanting him if he is a year better and got another 25 goals behind him.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on March 15, 2017, 03:15:42 PM
Give him a £65m release clause that kicks in on February 1st 2018
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: cyberduck on March 15, 2017, 03:31:01 PM
What's up with him? Doesn't he think he's as good as Pogba?   :)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueNoseMike on March 15, 2017, 04:24:02 PM
Discussing Lukaku on talksport. Jim White apparently spoke to Moshiri last night, who was quite calm about the whole thing. Jim White has said Everton are quite comfortable with it.


He's just said he got home from sky sports and got in touch with Moshiri. Moshiri said the club is confident and the contract is recognition of his achievements. Apparently he said don't worry, he's our player!

Will update if he says anymore about his conversation with Moshiri
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Robioto on March 15, 2017, 04:47:29 PM
Discussing Lukaku on talksport. Jim White apparently spoke to Moshiri last night, who was quite calm about the whole thing. Jim White has said Everton are quite comfortable with it.


He's just said he got home from sky sports and got in touch with Moshiri. Moshiri said the club is confident and the contract is recognition of his achievements. Apparently he said don't worry, he's our player!

Will update if he says anymore about his conversation with Moshiri

http://talksport.com/football/romelu-lukaku-latest-no-one-should-worry-he-our-player-everton-chief-farhad-moshiri-tells
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Alanvideo on March 15, 2017, 04:49:26 PM
Don Goodman and Ray Wilkins talking quite sensibly about Lukaku on SSN. Both said he should stay put for a couple more seasons.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Hawkandro on March 15, 2017, 05:14:36 PM
I think he should stay with us for another season at least. Sign the deal, if we get into the Top 4 next year, brilliant; you have your CL football so go and prove you are good enough.

If we miss the Top 4, we let you go to a CL club for £80m and you will play CL still with many prime years left.

I guess the impasse at present is negotiating tactics to get the best possible deal. Fingers crossed we can resolve it soon.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: chang on March 15, 2017, 05:19:23 PM
Oh for a return to my youth when most clubs in Div 1 had a local lad as their number 9
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ross on March 15, 2017, 05:37:53 PM
I think he should stay with us for another season at least. Sign the deal, if we get into the Top 4 next year, brilliant; you have your CL football so go and prove you are good enough.

If we miss the Top 4, we let you go to a CL club for £80m and you will play CL still with many prime years left.

I guess the impasse at present is negotiating tactics to get the best possible deal. Fingers crossed we can resolve it soon.

The thing is Lukaku doesn't just want to join a club that's playing in the champions league he wants to be in a team that's winning the champions league (and other things), and he wants that now. Not in a year or two.



Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueNoseMike on March 15, 2017, 05:53:50 PM
If I was someone close to Lukaku I'd be in his ear telling him he is still really young for a footballer, continue his development, etc then either move on or Everton are there. I'd be reminding him that his hero, Didier Drogba, didn't join Chelsea until he was 26, and won his first trophy at 27.

Lukaku has the physical prowess to be at the high level for longer than most players and has got plenty of time to achieve big things.

I think young players, and to be honest, the younger generation want things instantly, when it is sometimes important to be paitent. I love him, easily our best player, but I still think there's parts of his game missing and he is not an upgrade on any of the top top teams current strikers. I'm talking Lewandoswki, Ronaldo, Suarez, even Costa Aguero. The one that worries me is United, but I still think they'll go in for Griezmann and keep Zlatan.

I'm not resigned to losing him just yet.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: AllyBlue14 on March 15, 2017, 06:09:49 PM
If I was someone close to Lukaku I'd be in his ear telling him he is still really young for a footballer, continue his development, etc then either move on or Everton are there. I'd be reminding him that his hero, Didier Drogba, didn't join Chelsea until he was 26, and won his first trophy at 27.

Lukaku has the physical prowess to be at the high level for longer than most players and has got plenty of time to achieve big things.

I think young players, and to be honest, the younger generation want things instantly, when it is sometimes important to be paitent. I love him, easily our best player, but I still think there's parts of his game missing and he is not an upgrade on any of the top top teams current strikers. I'm talking Lewandoswki, Ronaldo, Suarez, even Costa Aguero. The one that worries me is United, but I still think they'll go in for Griezmann and keep Zlatan.

I'm not resigned to losing him just yet.

Agree with you there mate, although Costa may very well be off this summer, Arsenal could lose Sanchez (plus Giroud is getting on a bit) and I can't help but feel Real might be after him to replace Benzema in the long term. I just don't get the feeling they're that into Morata. Added to United and PSG (money but crap league) there will be plenty of options for him, all of which can offer him £ as well as CL - with the exception of United or maybe Arsenal.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueNoseMike on March 15, 2017, 06:21:34 PM
Agree with you there mate, although Costa may very well be off this summer, Arsenal could lose Sanchez (plus Giroud is getting on a bit) and I can't help but feel Real might be after him to replace Benzema in the long term. I just don't get the feeling they're that into Morata. Added to United and PSG (money but crap league) there will be plenty of options for him, all of which can offer him £ as well as CL - with the exception of United or maybe Arsenal.

Yeah good points, I was going to mention PSG but I don't see him going to France, which is weird because all last summer I was thinking they were the only club who would be in for him and he'd join if he went last year. I think he wants to be in a competitive league, but if it's all about champions league then PSG is a fantastic option, despite the capitulation last week.

I never considered Arsenal because he doesn't fit their style, in the same way he'd never be on City's list or Barca's in reality. However, with Wenger looking likely to be on his way out then there's a chance there to change their way a bit. Especially if Allegri comes in and Juve have been linked to Rom in the past.

I just hope we can keep on at him to give Koeman, Walsh and Moshiri the upcoming transfer window. Think this is a big window where we will upgrade massively on aspects of our starting 11 (CB, GK) and add depth and extra creativity upfront. We can compete but I completely understand him wanting to leave. We are currently at the point we should have been last season, on the fringes of the top 6 with big money.

It's hard to blame Martinez because he brought Lukaku in I suppose. He really fucked with our emotions and hopes didn't he that Bob Martinez? haha
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: ally2 on March 15, 2017, 07:15:11 PM
Less than 24 hrs in and I'm bored shitless of this story/saga already. Not concerned either way really.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Toddacelli on March 15, 2017, 07:25:10 PM
Less than 24 hrs in and I'm bored shitless of this story/saga already. Not concerned either way really.

Wish I wasn't    :(
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: brap2 on March 15, 2017, 07:47:00 PM
To be quite frank I think he should leave.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: pjk on March 15, 2017, 08:55:22 PM
To be quite frank I think he should leave.



As much as I like him, I have to agree. This uncertainty and posturing season in and season out is becoming a nuisance and in the long term has to affect the team. The main positive for me is, he'll take that fat twat Raiola with him.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 15, 2017, 09:22:44 PM
I'm comfortable with him leaving this summer, as long as Koeman is still here and Barkley re-signs. All this 'will he' 'won't he' every year is starting to wear a bit thin.

Great if he stays but I'm equally comfortable in us trying to build for the inevitable future without him too.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: TheTone on March 15, 2017, 09:24:12 PM
Moshiri needs to sack Jim White off, fucking embarrassing and highly unprofessional from someone who apparently does his business quietly
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: sam of the south on March 15, 2017, 09:25:50 PM
I'm comfortable with him leaving this summer, as long as Koeman is still here and Barkley re-signs. All this 'will he' 'won't he' every year is starting to wear a bit thin.

Great if he stays but I'm equally comfortable in us trying to build for the inevitable future without him too.

Spot-on.

It would be good if we could get our targets in before we sell him, to stop us being really held to ransom.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: ncstate4jpc on March 15, 2017, 09:43:19 PM
Uh....

Why would anyone REALLY want to get rid of Lukaku???

Come on.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 15, 2017, 09:52:12 PM
Uh....

Why would anyone REALLY want to get rid of Lukaku???

Come on.

No-one wants to get rid of him but he's going anyway, whether it's this summer or next. Which is what we said last summer. As well as the summer before.

Sooner or later we have to build a side without him in it because he keeps telling us that that's going to be the case.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: cantoffee on March 15, 2017, 10:12:02 PM
Would much rather we kept him. I don't think the "saga" as it's called has any influence on the team.


I do however think it's hilarious that each summer we say "he really should stay one more year, and if it doesn't work out he can leave next the following year".

Every season we say that.

Of course this may be the first summer where he is realistically being sought by legitimate top teams as he has made big strides this year and put himself into the conversation as being world class.

Either way I feel we should keep him and next summer if he still hasn't signed a deal we sell him and probably still pull in 60 to 70 million even with one year left on his contract.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Optimistic Blue on March 15, 2017, 11:35:29 PM
Uh....

Why would anyone REALLY want to get rid of Lukaku???

Come on.

If he is going to leave anyway but wants a pay rise and assurance that we won't price clubs out of a deal then fuck him. When did we become such a bitch to players? If we have offered him a reasonable deal and doesn't have some stupid clause like he's gotta suck Koemans cock every day  and he's said no we should say fuck off and get top dollar for him now.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ross on March 15, 2017, 11:43:41 PM
Lot of papers running the same rumour


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/03/15/chelsea-considering-100m-bid-everton-duoromelu-lukaku-ross-barkley/
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/chelsea-mulling-over-100million-double-10033731
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/779620/Chelsea-news-and-transfers-Romelu-Lukaku-Ross-Barkley

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 15, 2017, 11:44:57 PM
I don't get why people are so pissed off with him. He hasn't handed a transfer request in or been a knob. He just hasn't signed an extension (yet).
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 15, 2017, 11:52:20 PM
Lot of papers running the same rumour


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/03/15/chelsea-considering-100m-bid-everton-duoromelu-lukaku-ross-barkley/
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/chelsea-mulling-over-100million-double-10033731
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/779620/Chelsea-news-and-transfers-Romelu-Lukaku-Ross-Barkley



Look at the journos. Matt Law - hack. John Cross - wishes he was as good as a hack. And someone called Bruce.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: sixymack on March 15, 2017, 11:55:06 PM
I don't get why people are so pissed off with him. He hasn't handed a transfer request in or been a knob. He just hasn't signed an extension (yet).


Most sensible post I have seen here.
Title: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 15, 2017, 11:58:36 PM
Uh....

Why would anyone REALLY want to get rid of Lukaku???

Come on.


Someone who understands the detrimental effect of a player staying at club he doesn't want to play for.

And understand the knock on effect it will obviously have on his form and sale value.

It's not rocket science
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ross on March 16, 2017, 12:02:28 AM
Look at the journos. Matt Law - hack. John Cross - wishes he was as good as a hack. And someone called Bruce.

Thought it was more relevant that it was the telegraph and express that broke the Lukaku news yesterday.

The priority in my eyes should be getting Barkley sorted to put a stop to this sort of potential lowballing in the summer. It should have been all along really.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 16, 2017, 12:05:04 AM

Someone who understands the detrimental effect of a player staying at club he doesn't want to play for.

And understand the knock on effect it will obviously have on his form and sale value.

It's not rocket science

Or someone who doesn't want to extend his existing deal from 2 years to 5, anyway. At the moment. He's never downed tools, or kicked off in the media. He's played through injuries, and if we decide to keep him for another year, he'll commit fully as he has done before.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: TheRam on March 16, 2017, 12:08:34 AM
People need to stop fuming anytime our players get linked with moves away.

We get linked to players all the time with no substance.

It's what happens.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: fubarruk on March 16, 2017, 12:13:05 AM
I don't get why people are so pissed off with him. He hasn't handed a transfer request in or been a knob. He just hasn't signed an extension (yet).
Tbh I think there's very few people pissed off with him personally.

People pissed off with the situation and seemingly endless speculation, and would rather see it decided one way or other.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: brap2 on March 16, 2017, 12:16:25 AM
It's also not a cardinal crime to move clubs. We lash the shot ones in the bin all the time and expect the gwladys to get a clap when they come back.

Bet half the people moaning about him were the same ones calling him a lazy bastard 2 months ago.

Removing my blue tints for a minute, he stays for another year and what? Do we get CL? Nah probably not, but even if we do...does he stay another year? Before you know it he's 25/6 and played one season in the CL, when he could have 2/3 seasons under his belt and breaking records somewhere.

I don't see the appeal for him to stay when he could clearly play at a higher level. All this talk of projects etc. Is great but it doesn't work on someone who's put his time in, he doesn't want another 2/3 years to see if Moshiri can deliver.

It's just a shame Moshiri and Koeman came a year too late.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 16, 2017, 12:30:45 AM
I don't get why people are so pissed off with him. He hasn't handed a transfer request in or been a knob. He just hasn't signed an extension (yet).

I don't see anyone pissed off with him on here. People are just musing about what would be the various options depending on whether he does sign it or not.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 16, 2017, 12:32:47 AM
I don't get why people are so pissed off with him. He hasn't handed a transfer request in or been a knob. He just hasn't signed an extension (yet).

I'm not remotely pissed off with him but him and his agent have tried to play the club for idiots. Think he wanted a pay rise and a release clause that would be met as soon as the window opened.
If the clause was more than anyone would pay today then we wouldn't be arguing it as we aren't in a good position to keep him if we do.
I don't blame him. Of course he wanted to have his cake and eat it but I'm glad we haven't been played for fools
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 16, 2017, 12:34:06 AM
Or someone who doesn't want to extend his existing deal from 2 years to 5, anyway. At the moment. He's never downed tools, or kicked off in the media. He's played through injuries, and if we decide to keep him for another year, he'll commit fully as he has done before.

He's on record admitting he downed tools towards the end of last season isn't he?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 16, 2017, 12:39:39 AM
I'm less concerned about Lukaku's contract situation than I am about Barkley's, from the perspective of what kind of message it sends out that we can't keep our homegrown stars in this supposed new era.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 16, 2017, 12:40:31 AM
oh my god...

https://twitter.com/johnefc86/status/842082093417017362

https://twitter.com/DExpress_Sport/status/842079264031801344
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 16, 2017, 12:50:14 AM
Ha ha that's fucking embarrassing
He is wearing a kick racism out of football shirt, is he supposed to look over the moon?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 16, 2017, 01:00:14 AM
He still looks happier than when Lennon signed.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 16, 2017, 01:01:26 AM
Anyway, if he is buggering off in the summer, I'm happy he's not getting a pay rise. That's close to a million saved.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Brownie20 on March 16, 2017, 01:04:47 AM
Lot of papers running the same rumour


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/03/15/chelsea-considering-100m-bid-everton-duoromelu-lukaku-ross-barkley/
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/chelsea-mulling-over-100million-double-10033731
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/779620/Chelsea-news-and-transfers-Romelu-Lukaku-Ross-Barkley



All bollocks
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: TheRam on March 16, 2017, 01:07:20 AM
oh my god...

https://twitter.com/johnefc86/status/842082093417017362

https://twitter.com/DExpress_Sport/status/842079264031801344

Now this is on another level.

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Risky on March 16, 2017, 01:11:27 AM
oh my god...

https://twitter.com/johnefc86/status/842082093417017362

https://twitter.com/DExpress_Sport/status/842079264031801344

He's obviously a racist too being that unhappy in that t-shirt.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 16, 2017, 01:20:37 AM
Hes always looks miserable, it started when he cut his dreads off
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: velimski on March 16, 2017, 01:27:24 AM
Miserable? 

This is what miserable looks like.

 :Lennon:

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ross on March 16, 2017, 01:30:21 AM
All bollocks

Okay.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Toddacelli on March 16, 2017, 01:45:48 AM
Ha ha that's fucking embarrassing
He is wearing a kick racism out of football shirt, is he supposed to look over the moon?

Yes mate he should have been doing jazz-hands.

FFS! What are they like?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Goaljira on March 16, 2017, 01:55:32 AM
All bollocks
That's what she said.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Trowel on March 16, 2017, 03:07:55 AM
Supposedly an interview out tonight where he says he wants to leave in the summer. We'll see.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Simon Paul on March 16, 2017, 03:09:20 AM
Supposedly an interview out tonight where he says he wants to leave in the summer. We'll see.

I'm interested to see where this has come from

Why would a few random Twitter accounts know when nothing has come from an actual journo?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 16, 2017, 03:42:03 AM
I'm interested to see where this has come from

Why would a few random Twitter accounts know when nothing has come from an actual journo?

It's Twitter. Even the President of the United States knows it's the No 1 source of info.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Trowel on March 16, 2017, 04:59:05 AM
Doesn't say he wants to leave, but questions the board's ambition, fairly so. Not too bad a read.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-romelu-lukaku-interview-transcript-12748126
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Simon Paul on March 16, 2017, 05:00:12 AM
Doesn't say he wants to leave, but questions the board's ambition, fairly so. Not too bad a read.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-romelu-lukaku-interview-transcript-12748126

shameful from the Echo not just linking to the full transcript and instead focusing on the "negatives"
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 16, 2017, 05:00:37 AM
So who do we think he's talking about with players we could have got but didn't and they're now doing well in this league?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Simon Paul on March 16, 2017, 05:02:06 AM
So who do we think he's talking about with players we could have got but didn't and they're now doing well in this league?

Gabbiadini without a doubt
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 16, 2017, 05:04:47 AM
Gabbiadini without a doubt

Bit silly if so. We've not been doing too badly ourselves since he signed for Soton. It's not as if he's been tearing it up and we've been on our arse.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Trowel on March 16, 2017, 05:07:08 AM
I can't think of a single team who wouldn't want their players to be saying the things Lukaku has said there. If you're not listening to your best employee you're not the best employer for them.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Sir Stealth on March 16, 2017, 05:11:41 AM
It is rather glass half empty of me but I still expect the resolution to this situation to be

We sell Lukaku to Chelsea this summer for mega bucks

Rather than

July 1st we sign 4 or 5 world class players to go straight into the first team and Lukaku signs 5 year deal
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 16, 2017, 05:13:39 AM
He's taking the piss.

He's 23 and he's telling a club they should of signed someone when he knows fuck all about the deals presented to us.

Cheeky cunt.

He deserves to play at a higher level but there is no need for this fucking mess every year.

Cash in move on and watch him slide.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 16, 2017, 05:14:59 AM
He's taking the piss.

He's 23 and he's telling a club they should of signed someone when he knows fuck all about the deals presented to us.

Cheeky cunt.

He deserves to play at a higher level but there is no need for this fucking mess every year.

Cash in move on and watch him slide.
Slide where?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 16, 2017, 05:16:53 AM
Questioning the ambition of a club that has shown a lot of ambition?

Fuck of to united and make insta vids with your mates every week.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 16, 2017, 05:17:31 AM
Slide where?


Of the radar
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ross on March 16, 2017, 05:17:39 AM
Reminds me of when Sterling did his NWT interview to be honest.

He's either being very naive calling the club out like this or very calculated and the echo are so desperate for the scoop they've not consider their role in this game fully.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Sir Stealth on March 16, 2017, 05:21:15 AM
I would quite like it if Rom gave the board some sort of Brewsters Millions style ultimatum to spend like 150million on players in the summer before the 1st of August
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 16, 2017, 05:21:24 AM

Of the radar
It's hard to imagine a lad who in his early twenties has scored twenty goals a season in a mediocre side, a player who has been highly coveted since he was ten just sliding off the radar cos he leaves Everton
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blue1948 on March 16, 2017, 11:15:04 AM
It's hard to imagine a lad who in his early twenties has scored twenty goals a season in a mediocre side, a player who has been highly coveted since he was ten just sliding off the radar cos he leaves Everton

Don't waste your breath on people who don't think ,they don't deserve it
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: TheRam on March 16, 2017, 12:27:32 PM
Questioning the ambition of a club that has shown a lot of ambition?

Fuck of to united and make insta vids with your mates every week.

Has it though? Particularly in the transfer window?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Waltzer on March 16, 2017, 12:38:08 PM
Has it though? Particularly in the transfer window?
I don't think so. I actually agree with him a bit on this. Moshiri mouthed off about this and that yet he hasn't really done what he said. During the summer we were linked with some big players and none signed, that either tells you we weren't paying what they want our they didn't believe this commitment or project.  Despite signing who we have we haven't invested anymore than some of the teams below us
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 16, 2017, 12:59:11 PM
Assuming he's being sincere, he's calling the club out. Koeman did the same in January to get the Schneiderlin deal done. A while ago Raiola said that 'things have changed at Everton' so you would assume that Rom and his agent were made some pretty big promises about our plans, and although we have improved, it's not been to the extent that was initially suggested.

From the club's perspective, it seemed like they were maybe a bit naive about getting big players in straight away and mismanaged last summer's window.  January clearly wasn't a time to make big, seismic moves in the market, so now they have to deliver something more notable in the summer ahead.

Rom's actions and comments might actually get things moving a bit, and make for a better transfer window for the fans and the manager. It's clear that Koeman wants to get things moving as well.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 16, 2017, 01:24:13 PM
Yeah there's the obvious difference between the speed / timeframes through which fans view things and the way players and coaches do.

At the end of the day if in 10 years time we've got a brilliant stadium and a team challenging for honours every year then that's great.

It's not much good to the current playing and coaching staff.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 16, 2017, 01:32:00 PM
Don't waste your breath on people who don't think ,they don't deserve it

Ironic
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 16, 2017, 01:37:03 PM
He talks about city as if they are the blueprint but there's probably only 1 team in world football who can afford to match city in terms of spending. On top of that he talks about Robinho and that first spree when in terms of football it was a daft failure. They blew 100 million on shite just to get their name out there. We'd run out of money doing that.
Also if the players he knew we could get are the likes of VVD and the lad from Napoli then he's not talking about a lack of ambition but a lack of perfect forsight

This isn't a man who's been let down on promises and has now got doubts about staying. Lukaku has talked about going from day 1. He's finally got the top sides interested because he's finally found some consistency
It's okay him wanting to sign for city or Chelsea, everyone does. It's not okay him making out he's been let down with our ambition as we are doing all we can from the position we are in.
Just say I want to play for a top team. Don't make out something has changed when the only change is his level of performance and so their interest
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 16, 2017, 01:39:29 PM
He talks about city as if they are the blueprint but there's probably only 1 team in world football who can afford to match city in terms of spending. On top of that he talks about Robinho and that first spree when in terms of football it was a daft failure. They blew 100 million on shite just to get their name out there. We'd run out of money doing that.
Also if the players he knew we could get are the likes of VVD and the lad from Napoli then he's not talking about a lack of ambition but a lack of perfect forsight

This isn't a man who's been let down on promises and has now got doubts about staying. Lukaku has talked about going from day 1. He's finally got the top sides interested because he's finally found some consistency
It's okay him wanting to sign for city or Chelsea, everyone does. It's not okay him making out he's been let down with our ambition as we are doing all we can from the position we are in.
Just say I want to play for a top team. Don't make out something has changed when the only change is his level of performance and so their interest

He's talking about City because he speaks to Kompany.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on March 16, 2017, 01:44:41 PM
He's talking about City because he speaks to Kompany.

Think you might have missed MLT's point.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: brap2 on March 16, 2017, 01:48:02 PM
Questioning the ambition of a club that has shown a lot of ambition?

Fuck of to united and make insta vids with your mates every week.

Valencia

Ambition

Pick one.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 16, 2017, 01:54:17 PM
He's talking about City because he speaks to Kompany.

But it's utterly irrelevant to us. Surely he didn't believe that would happen here and so is disappointed
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 16, 2017, 01:55:40 PM
Think you might have missed MLT's point.

Maybe.

It looks to me that he's taken too literally a reference to City changing their outlook.

His points re Robinho etc are valid but I don't think that they're in the context of what Lukaku is saying.

We missed out on players last summer that would have improved our squad and chances this season. We all agree on that (for whatever reasons).

Therefore if you're a player faced with deciding whether to commit to a new contract or not you're going to question whether that is likely to happen again. As if it does that's essentially 20% of your peak career gone waiting. That's exacerbated if there are offers from clubs already at where we want to be.

If we as fans have to wait 5 years for things to materialise then so what.

There's no way Lukaku or Barkley can think I'll give it 5 years, as an example.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 16, 2017, 01:56:55 PM
He's talking about City because he speaks to Kompany.

I know but he did specifically major on that point though. Holding up City as an example as how he thinks we should be starting the project off at the minute. They got given a brand new stadium so it was easy for them to divert all plans and funds onto the pitch.

We've tried to make big strides but we're not PSG. We had a muddled summer with lots going on and it ended up a holding operation really.
January was always going to be tough.

If he gave us the first part of the summer and then called us out then fine we could all see his point. Don't be calling the club out now before they've really had the chance to prove itself.

In case he hadn't noticed we've been putting some pretty detailed plans in place for a c£300m investment to future proof the whole club and put us on the map big time. Don't be making out they've been sat on their hands doing nothing.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: ally2 on March 16, 2017, 01:57:42 PM
I'm confused how many people think it is healthy for a player to be calling out the owner at a football club and in public. It's wrong and unnecessary.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 16, 2017, 01:59:35 PM
I know but he did specifically major on that point though. Holding up City as an example as how he thinks we should be starting the project off at the minute. They got given a brand new stadium so they could divert all plans and funds into the pitch.

We've tried to make big strides but we're not PSG. We had a muddled summer with lots going on and it ended up a holding operation really.
January was always going to be tough.

If he gave us the first part of the summer and then called us out then fine we could all see his point. Don't be calling the club out now before they've really had the chance to prove itself.

In case he hadn't noticed we've been putting some pretty detailed plans in place for a c£300m investment to future proof the whole club and put us on the map big time. Let's not make out they've been sat on their hands doing nothing.

I don't think anyone is  having a go at the club. Just looking at it from Lukaku's perspective and attempting to understand his position.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 16, 2017, 02:09:51 PM
I don't think anyone is  having a go at the club. Just looking at it from Lukaku's perspective and attempting to understand his position.

I think you've mis-read my post
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 16, 2017, 02:16:34 PM
Lad wants to leave because we can't move quickly enough to get to the level of city and Chelsea (if at all) that's fair enough. What's not fair enough is he's pretending it's a new realisation he's come to and that we've fallen short of the ambition he was promised/expected. That's nonsense he dragged out signing waiting for a better offer. He's talked of moving on ever since. Both fair enough. He's entitled to them ambitions. Don't make out it's a new thing though when the only new thing is them big clubs being interested due to a combination of his contract running down and his improved form.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 16, 2017, 02:23:27 PM
Lad wants to leave because we can't move quickly enough to get to the level of city and Chelsea (if at all) that's fair enough. What's not fair enough is he's pretending it's a new realisation he's come to and that we've fallen short of the ambition he was promised/expected. That's nonsense he dragged out signing waiting for a better offer. He's talked of moving on ever since. Both fair enough. He's entitled to them ambitions. Don't make out it's a new thing though when the only new thing is them big clubs being interested due to a combination of his contract running down and his improved form.

Pretty much this.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Waltzer on March 16, 2017, 02:25:51 PM
I don't think anyone is  having a go at the club. Just looking at it from Lukaku's perspective and attempting to understand his position.

I do think the club needs to take some of the responsibility though, we have set ourselves big targets and clearly put them out there. Our own majority shareholder has also quoted players we were after and failed to deliver, he also made us a look a bit farcical in the whole Sissoko deal. He keeps piping up through Jim White about this and that, and dont get me wrong I think he is just what we needed, but dont go shouting off about doing things, just do it!!

I dont think the issue is Moshiri, far from it, I think its the people at the club that do the day to day running that need to be replaced to move things forward as its clear to see there are some deficiencies in our dealings in the transfer market
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 16, 2017, 02:26:12 PM
He wants world class players? Let's sign Kane and drop him.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ramjam on March 16, 2017, 02:26:18 PM
If he had only scored 10 goals so far this season and that contract was put in front of him he'd have signed it there and then. We have got him up to the level required now he's ready to turn the screw for his own ambitions and fuck you Everton
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 16, 2017, 02:30:10 PM
He can say what he wants really, its still upto to us when it comes to selling him though.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 16, 2017, 02:35:02 PM
Basically Moshiri and Koeman arrived a year too late for his career plan. Just come out and say it. Don't start calling the club out for not jumping from A to C without going through B first.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 16, 2017, 02:36:51 PM
If he had only scored 10 goals so far this season and that contract was put in front of him he'd have signed it there and then. We have got him up to the level required now he's ready to turn the screw for his own ambitions and fuck you Everton

He's been with us for 4 seasons, mate. Its not like he's just turned up and fucked us off at the first opportunity. Unfortunately two of those seasons were a massive waste of time and effort, and he's only got a finite amount of time to play at the very top level. He's played almost every game in that time, never complained about playing through injuries.

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 16, 2017, 02:39:13 PM
Basically Moshiri and Koeman arrived a year too late for his career plan. Just come out and say it. Don't start calling the club out for not jumping from A to C without going through B first.

I would hope he would give us another year, see what happens in the summer, then next season, if we get top 4 then great, if not, then he can leave
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 16, 2017, 02:42:25 PM
I would hope he would give us another year, see what happens in the summer, then next season, if we get top 4 then great, if not, then he can leave

The old 'just one more season' scenario. You almost get the feeling Koeman convinced him to give it one more year this season, and probably   the start of Martinez's last season after finishing 11th was one more year. We're like a middle aged drunk trying desperately to sustain a failing relationship.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 16, 2017, 02:43:15 PM
He's been with us for 4 seasons, mate. Its not like he's just turned up and fucked us off at the first opportunity. Unfortunately two of those seasons were a massive waste of time and effort, and he's only got a finite amount of time to play at the very top level. He's played almost every game in that time, never complained about playing through injuries.



He has though. He's been talking about leaving since day 1 and now he can. I've no issue with that because that's modern football but it was always going to end this way (assuming he was a success) nothing has changed. He came here cos it was his best option and he'll go first chance he has a better 1
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 16, 2017, 02:46:16 PM
The old 'just one more season' scenario. You almost get the feeling Koeman convinced him to give it one more year this season, and probably   the start of Martinez's last season after finishing 11th was one more year. We're like a middle aged drunk trying desperately to sustain a failing relationship.

There's a pretty accurate description of me right there.

I'm not to concerned about the situation, if someone wants him then they're going to have to dig deep, we should just laugh at any offer under 70 million.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ramjam on March 16, 2017, 02:58:07 PM
He's been with us for 4 seasons, mate. Its not like he's just turned up and fucked us off at the first opportunity. Unfortunately two of those seasons were a massive waste of time and effort, and he's only got a finite amount of time to play at the very top level. He's played almost every game in that time, never complained about playing through injuries.

Ok mate I get your point but he would have gone at the first opportunity at anytime during those four years but no one else wanted to pay the asking price, however we did and it was a risk at 28m but we put it up and took him off the Chelsea bench when nobody else wanted him at 28m
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 16, 2017, 02:58:30 PM
I think the Spurs game was the tipping point probably. Up to then we were on a great roll, we go there and beat them and it's tangible evidence we're genuinely entering the top 7 mix.

The fact we didn't turn up, got dispatched quite comfortably and eliminated our slim top 4 chances probably told him we were a year, at least, away from where he'd like us to be. Got no problem with that. Every fan felt the same.

Just don't then start to flower it up with a thinly veiled dig at the club when within a year of new ownership we're on the fringes of the top 4 and have a spanking new stadium in the works.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Rodenplav64 on March 16, 2017, 03:02:32 PM
Basically Moshiri and Koeman arrived a year too late for his career plan. Just come out and say it. Don't start calling the club out for not jumping from A to C without going through B first.

We need to think of the negative effect he could have on others . Sell and buy a replacement or 2 who think Everton are a realistic proposition for them in the medium term . I am getting bored shitless with Lukaku and his agent . Even though we won on Saturday my Chelsea supporting mate after the game said " I really down want that lazy c*** back at Chelsea " . Koemann ( who I am starting to appreciate ) might just call time on this one . Media is media but Lukaku needs to shut up or fuck off .
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 16, 2017, 03:04:01 PM
We need to think of the negative effect he could have on others . Sell and buy a replacement or 2 who think Everton are a realistic proposition for them in the medium term . I am getting bored shitless with Lukaku and his agent . Even though we won on Saturday my Chelsea supporting mate after the game said " I really down want that lazy c*** back at Chelsea " . Koemann ( who I am starting to appreciate ) might just call time on this one . Media is media but Lukaku needs to shut up or fuck off .

The usual helping of drivel from you. Your mate sounds like a nice fella.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on March 16, 2017, 03:05:04 PM
the city thing, combined with the "koeman persuaded me to stay" makes it clear that Kompany has told him Everton's new owner could transform us in one summer (RE: Robinho, he actually mentions them getting slated, but ending up with medals anyway) and then Koeman reassured him of his plans.

Summer was shit.

Then we got the first 99.9% chat around the January window.
Which was a good Jan window, but not transformative.

I genuinely reckon he would stay on if the board matched his ambitions early on in the summer.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ramjam on March 16, 2017, 03:05:08 PM
We need to think of the negative effect he could have on others . Sell and buy a replacement or 2 who think Everton are a realistic proposition for them in the medium term . I am getting bored shitless with Lukaku and his agent . Even though we won on Saturday my Chelsea supporting mate after the game said " I really down want that lazy c*** back at Chelsea " . Koemann ( who I am starting to appreciate ) might just call time on this one . Media is media but Lukaku needs to shut up or fuck off .

I like your style mate
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ramjam on March 16, 2017, 03:08:29 PM
More paper talk this morning that Chelsea are ready to go for a combo deal, Lukaku and Barkley for 100 million
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 16, 2017, 03:10:11 PM
the city thing, combined with the "koeman persuaded me to stay" makes it clear that Kompany has told him Everton's new owner could transform us in one summer (RE: Robinho, he actually mentions them getting slated, but ending up with medals anyway) and then Koeman reassured him of his plans.

Summer was shit.

Then we got the first 99.9% chat around the January window.
Which was a good Jan window, but not transformative.

I genuinely reckon he would stay on if the board matched his ambitions early on in the summer.

Sorry, what is this, the fuckin Lukaku show or something?
I would hope Moshiri tells him 'these are our plans, stay on board if you'd like to be part of it, we'd love you to but we're moving on with or without you.'
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ramjam on March 16, 2017, 03:11:17 PM
Sorry, what is this, the fuckin Lukaku show or something?
I would hope Moshiri tells him 'these are our plans, stay on board if you'd like to be part of it, we'd love you to but we're moving on with or without you.'

More U2 puns
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ell Capitan on March 16, 2017, 03:12:03 PM
We need to think of the negative effect he could have on others . Sell and buy a replacement or 2 who think Everton are a realistic proposition for them in the medium term . I am getting bored shitless with Lukaku and his agent . Even though we won on Saturday my Chelsea supporting mate after the game said " I really down want that lazy c*** back at Chelsea " . Koemann ( who I am starting to appreciate ) might just call time on this one . Media is media but Lukaku needs to shut up or fuck off .

People have been talking about the negative impact of Lukaku wanting away for the past 3 years.

Personally I don't buy it, because he's a good kid and posturing in the press doesn't mean he's being disruptive at training or that the players would hold it against him, they're all well advised millionaires who understand that they and other players need to look out for their own interests.

But, if it were to have a negative impact, we would've seen it already.

My guess is other factors like the appalling management of Martinez, or the poor treatment of players like Pienaar and Niasse, would be much more likely to do damage to team morale than anything Lukaku says in the press.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 16, 2017, 03:13:28 PM
the city thing, combined with the "koeman persuaded me to stay" makes it clear that Kompany has told him Everton's new owner could transform us in one summer (RE: Robinho, he actually mentions them getting slated, but ending up with medals anyway) and then Koeman reassured him of his plans.

Summer was shit.

Then we got the first 99.9% chat around the January window.
Which was a good Jan window, but not transformative.

I genuinely reckon he would stay on if the board matched his ambitions early on in the summer.

There's no chance anyone has told him we were going to attempt to do what city did. He stayed because he had a lon g contract and no one wanted to pay the money. Its going to end as it always was and as he's always said he wanted it to with him going to city or Chelsea or any team a level above what he knew we were capable of achieving. There's nowt wrong with that but he should at least be honest about it. He's always wanted to leave. Everton haven't let him down (certainly not in koemans and moshiris time)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on March 16, 2017, 03:16:07 PM
Sorry, what is this, the fuckin Lukaku show or something?
I would hope Moshiri tells him 'these are our plans, stay on board if you'd like to be part of it, we'd love you to but we're moving on with or without you.'

yes, it is the lukaku show.
You're in a thread about lukaku commenting on an intervirew about lukaku. We're hardly going to be discussing fucking Charlie Austins ambitions are we?

The lad is better than Everton currently are.
The main nugget of the entire thing is clearly that he was hoping we would match his ambition because he has been happy here.
We haven't and he has doubts we will.

There's no chance anyone has told him we were going to attempt to do what city did. He stayed because he had a lon g contract and no one wanted to pay the money. Its going to end as it always was and as he's always said he wanted it to with him going to city or Chelsea or any team a level above what he knew we were capable of achieving. There's nowt wrong with that but he should at least be honest about it. He's always wanted to leave. Everton haven't let him down (certainly not in koemans and moshiris time)

You are naive if you don't think he could have forced a move through last summer. Similarly so if you think there weren't clubs interested in him.
Koeman and the board persuaded him not to.

edit:
Koeman and the board would not have been able to persuade him if Kompany hadn't have told him things can change fast. (which isnt the same as saying you'll be buying the next flash in the pan Brazillian)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: sirblue57 on March 16, 2017, 03:16:30 PM
Takes me just shy of seven years to earn £140,000

 :eh:





ten years for me  :'(
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 16, 2017, 03:17:33 PM
People have been talking about the negative impact of Lukaku wanting away for the past 3 years.

Personally I don't buy it, because he's a good kid and posturing in the press doesn't mean he's being disruptive at training or that the players would hold it against him, they're all well advised millionaires who understand that they and other players need to look out for their own interests.

But, if it were to have a negative impact, we would've seen it already.

My guess is other factors like the appalling management of Martinez, or the poor treatment of players like Pienaar and Niasse, would be much more likely to do damage to team morale than anything Lukaku says in the press.

Plus the days of senior pros pulling mouthy youngsters up are long gone.
It's the era of training then Instagram videos then car shopping now.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 16, 2017, 03:22:06 PM
yes, it is the lukaku show.
You're in a thread about lukaku commenting on an intervirew about lukaku. We're hardly going to be discussing fucking Charlie Austins ambitions are we?

The lad is better than Everton currently are.
The main nugget of the entire thing is clearly that he was hoping we would match his ambition because he has been happy here.
We haven't and he has doubts we will.

You are naive if you don't think he could have forced a move through last summer. Similarly so if you think there weren't clubs interested in him.
Koeman and the board persuaded him not to.

edit:
Koeman and the board would not have been able to persuade him if Kompany hadn't have told him things can change fast. (which isnt the same as saying you'll be buying the next flash in the pan Brazillian)

There was the square route of fuck all chance of we meeting his ambition. He's not daft. He knew that. This has ended as it was always going to. Nothing wrong with that but he needs to not pretend we've fallen short of anything realistic
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 16, 2017, 03:22:30 PM
yes, it is the lukaku show.
You're in a thread about lukaku commenting on an intervirew about lukaku. We're hardly going to be discussing fucking Charlie Austins ambitions are we?

The lad is better than Everton currently are.
The main nugget of the entire thing is clearly that he was hoping we would match his ambition because he has been happy here.
We haven't and he has doubts we will.

You are naive if you don't think he could have forced a move through last summer. Similarly so if you think there weren't clubs interested in him.
Koeman and the board persuaded him not to.

edit:
Koeman and the board would not have been able to persuade him if Kompany hadn't have told him things can change fast. (which isnt the same as saying you'll be buying the next flash in the pan Brazillian)

Very smart.

You have no evidence of him being sold a dream last summer to persuade him to stay.
We only have his words that a team were interested in him but wouldn't pay the asking price. He wanted to go then.

It's just boring now. We all know the situation Rom, we're not as advanced as you'd like us to be. We're all as frustrated as you. Just don't be calling out the club in public.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 16, 2017, 03:26:55 PM
There's no chance anyone has told him we were going to attempt to do what city did. He stayed because he had a lon g contract and no one wanted to pay the money. Its going to end as it always was and as he's always said he wanted it to with him going to city or Chelsea or any team a level above what he knew we were capable of achieving. There's nowt wrong with that but he should at least be honest about it. He's always wanted to leave. Everton haven't let him down (certainly not in koemans and moshiris time)

The City thing is being taken far too literally here.

I really think a player's timeframe has to be considered here.

He's ready to play CL level football for someone.

We're not yet.

The question now is how long will it take until we are?

We clearly tried for better players last summer than we signed so there is a disparity between what Lukaku would have been told and what transpired.

Are we in a better place this summer to make sure there's less of a gap?

I'd say yes but it's not going to be near where the alternatives on offer will actually be.

Had we made some of those mooted signings and maybe one or two more in Jan then we'd obviously be closer than we are now.

And this isn't me moaning at the club it's just the way things were / are. I'm happy with how we're progressing.

But then I'm not running out of time in my professional career.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on March 16, 2017, 03:28:51 PM
There was the square route of fuck all chance of we meeting his ambition. He's not daft. He knew that. This has ended as it was always going to. Nothing wrong with that but he needs to not pretend we've fallen short of anything realistic

i'm slightly more willing to have this argument. It probably was unrealistic for us to be challenging for the league this year or next.
But top 4? was that unrealistic? I do believe he was always going to leave in 2018 to be fair. But he hoped to have won a cup and shown he can score in the champs league. That now wont happen so he is looking at leaving  year early.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: pjk on March 16, 2017, 03:29:30 PM
I would like to know what happened to, "my agent is sorting out my contract". Why hasn't Raiola weighed in? Somewhere along the line, the rules on honouring contracts need to be tightened up. Until then, personal ambition and the ambition of a club is going to clash once the individual feels it's his right to say "I want to leave and my contractual agreement isn't important". Football is in a mess and this is another example.

Lukaku has served us well, that was the reason we bought him and it's worked out for us. Maybe he was misrepresented by Martinez and his Champions league boast and see's greener pastures elsewhere. The fact that Martinez is his international manager is ironic in the extreme, as he can’t realistically refer to anything promised by the former club manager who bought him.  Sell him and let's get back to some normality. Aubameyang won’t cost 70 million and he might be willing to come if we offer him 140 k a week. 

That’s 560,000 pounds a month. Fuck me, what a pile of shite this money in football is throwing up.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 16, 2017, 03:29:32 PM
I don't know why grown men get so sensitive and precious about someone speaking openly about their situation. He hasn't refused to play. He hasn't kicked off. He hasn't handed in a transfer request. He hasn't badmouthed the club.

All that he's done is not signed an extension to his existing 2 years and when asked about his has said the club needs to be more ambitious if it wants to challenge for trophies. A perfectly legitimate thing to say that the overwhelming majority of our own fans say regularly.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 16, 2017, 03:32:33 PM
The City thing is being taken far too literally here.

I really think a player's timeframe has to be considered here.

He's ready to play CL level football for someone.

We're not yet.

The question now is how long will it take until we are?

We clearly tried for better players last summer than we signed so there is a disparity between what Lukaku would have been told and what transpired.

Are we in a better place this summer to make sure there's less of a gap?

I'd say yes but it's not going to be near where the alternatives on offer will actually be.

Had we made some of those mooted signings and maybe one or two more in Jan then we'd obviously be closer than we are now.

And this isn't me moaning at the club it's just the way things were / are. I'm happy with how we're progressing.

But then I'm not running out of time in my professional career.

I totally agree. He's entitled to seek that move. He was entitled to seek it year 1 (which he did at least in terms of talk)
The problem is he's making out something has changed to make him decide this. It just hasn't. He wants to play at a level he never believed we were capable of (and we almost certainly aren't capable of any time soon) just say that. Don't make out it's because he didn't sign some player that Southampton signed. It's because he wants to play for 1 of the top teams and now maybe he can
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 16, 2017, 03:35:21 PM
The City thing is being taken far too literally here.

I really think a player's timeframe has to be considered here.

He's ready to play CL level football for someone.

We're not yet.

The question now is how long will it take until we are?

We clearly tried for better players last summer than we signed so there is a disparity between what Lukaku would have been told and what transpired.

Are we in a better place this summer to make sure there's less of a gap?

I'd say yes but it's not going to be near where the alternatives on offer will actually be.

Had we made some of those mooted signings and maybe one or two more in Jan then we'd obviously be closer than we are now.

And this isn't me moaning at the club it's just the way things were / are. I'm happy with how we're progressing.

But then I'm not running out of time in my professional career.

Every single one of us on here gets those points.

The sole issue where some differ from others is that some think it's wrong to call out his employers in public for not being where he'd like them to be.
Everton Football Club does not exist to serve the needs of one of it's players.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 16, 2017, 03:39:24 PM
So what happens now, do Koeman and Moshiri have a chat with him and outline their plans for the summer and beyond?

If you want to be a part of that then great, if not ta ra then.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 16, 2017, 03:39:27 PM
Every single one of us on here gets those points.

The sole issue where some differ from others is that some think it's wrong to call out his employers in public for not being where he'd like them to be.
Everton Football Club does not exist to serve the needs of one of it's players.

Did it bother you when Koeman did it in January?

Alexis Sanchez is calling Arsenal out for going backwards. It happens everywhere. It's not unique to us. If we had 15/16 players with that kind of attitude to demand more, we'd probably not turn up at Anfield and surrender like meek little bitches every season.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 16, 2017, 03:51:40 PM
Did it bother you when Koeman did it in January?

Alexis Sanchez is calling Arsenal out for going backwards. It happens everywhere. It's not unique to us. If we had 15/16 players with that kind of attitude to demand more, we'd probably not turn up at Anfield and surrender like meek little bitches every season.

I'll not digress into a discussion on Koeman in here.

We're not going backwards or stagnating like Arsenal. Poor example. We're going forwards, on and off the pitch, just not as fast as one of our players would like.

The club is busy trying to make sure players like Tom Davies play in front of 60,000 in a new stadium which helps us compete at the top consistently, whilst also changing the club from top to bottom and progressing quite swiftly on the pitch.

I think we're moving as fast as we can given everything we're doing.
His time to come out with this kind of thing would be in July if we've not made any significant moves in the market. Not now, with 10 games to go in the season when the club can't respond in any way.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 16, 2017, 03:56:59 PM
I'll not digress into a discussion on Koeman in here.

We're not going backwards or stagnating like Arsenal. Poor example. We're going forwards, on and off the pitch, just not as fast as one of our players would like.

The club is busy trying to make sure players like Tom Davies play in front of 60,000 in a new stadium which helps us compete at the top consistently, whilst also changing the club from top to bottom and progressing quite swiftly on the pitch.

I think we're moving as fast as we can given everything we're doing.
His time to come out with this kind of thing would be in July if we've not made any significant moves in the market. Not now, with 10 games to go in the season when the club can't respond in any way.

Exactly the same as  @GLewis (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=258) , I'm not slagging the club off. We are doing what we can, after a badly managed summer window last season  (all set in motion by sacking Martinez at least a month too late).

I'm just saying that Lukaku's actions and comments are normal, and nothing to be offended by. He has a legitimate position, one that many fans agree with in their own conversations, and yet suddenly they're outraged by a player saying it. He's been totally respectful of the club's history in what he said.

I agree that it's a shame it's come out with 10 games to go, and Rom should take responsibility for that.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 16, 2017, 04:12:09 PM
Exactly the same as  @GLewis (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=258) , I'm not slagging the club off. We are doing what we can, after a badly managed summer window last season  (all set in motion by sacking Martinez at least a month too late).

I'm just saying that Lukaku's actions and comments are normal, and nothing to be offended by. He has a legitimate position, one that many fans agree with in their own conversations, and yet suddenly they're outraged by a player saying it. He's been totally respectful of the club's history in what he said.

I agree that it's a shame it's come out with 10 games to go, and Rom should take responsibility for that.

I think we're all on the same page, he just didn't need to say what he did now in March. He could have come out with some form of holding statement, no-one would have any issue and we get through to the summer till we put our plans in place and if he isn't impressed by them then we deal with it then.

I just think he's been poorly advised, or he's taken it upon himself to speak out. Either way as you say he needs to take some form of responsibility as it was an unnecessary distraction in what could be an interesting end to the season. If we get some favourable results this weekend we're 5 points off top 4 with 4th to play next up and we're in amongst Arsenal and Man U with 10 games left. Anyone would have taken that at the start of the season as it would be a sign of very decent progress, which is what makes his comments and the timing so poor.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Gary1878 on March 16, 2017, 04:43:03 PM
I think there is no right or wrong time to make these comments. Lukaku is our most important player, and is fully entitled to question Everton's ambitions.

What he has said isn't disrespect to the club. It is merely challenging Moshiri and Koeman to prove that Everton will be challenging the elite in the near future. Make no mistake that the club is going in the right direction on and off the pitch, but until we are back at the very top, it is important that there is a healthy challenge to the hierachy and leadership at the club to keep them moving forward.

These are the types of players that Everton should love to have. All he wants is to be is the best, and he would love to win trophies at Everton. However, if the club can't provide him with that platform, then a player as good as him will have to move on.

He has been our best goalscorer at the club for many years, and is starting to move to a level that puts him amongst the best in the world.

We shouldn't judge him for his ambition - we should all applaud it.

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: TheRam on March 16, 2017, 04:43:11 PM
We're moving forward but not to the level where we can attract players like Lukaku and I doubt we're getting there soon

We'll strengthen in the summer but so will the other teams above us, probably stronger.

Hes playing at a level much above where we are at. We're lucky he's still here tbh
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 16, 2017, 04:56:56 PM
Thinking on, its a world cup year next season, if he does move to the likes of Chelsea then would he get onto their starting 11 ahead of Costa assuming he's still there that it, United are after Griezeman so he won't be going there, so that leaves maybe only Arsenal, who will possibly be looking for a replacement for Sanchez, but they might not be in the Champions league next season
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 16, 2017, 05:11:50 PM
We're moving forward but not to the level where we can attract players like Lukaku and I doubt we're getting there soon

We'll strengthen in the summer but so will the other teams above us, probably stronger.

Hes playing at a level much above where we are at. We're lucky he's still here tbh

So it's nothing to do with players we could have signed or him questioning our ambition. It's everything to do with him finally being at a level to attract interest from clubs we could never have realistically been in this period of time

He's very subtly handing out a little blame when in reality no one is to blame. It's just how football is
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: ally2 on March 16, 2017, 05:38:30 PM
Last summer's transfer window was fine for me. You can't just go throwing money about like an idiot. Well you can but I'm pleased we didn't.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Rodenplav64 on March 16, 2017, 05:39:08 PM
The usual helping of drivel from you. Your mate sounds like a nice fella.

Yes he is . A bit straight talking but I can take that over someone who thinks he has an intellect . Drivel ? You read your own posts ?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 16, 2017, 05:43:16 PM
Yes he is . A bit straight talking but I can take that over someone who thinks he has an intellect . Drivel ? You read your own posts ?

I apologise. My post my unnecessarily personal and slightly abusive.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Waltzer on March 16, 2017, 05:49:13 PM
Thinking on, its a world cup year next season, if he does move to the likes of Chelsea then would he get onto their starting 11 ahead of Costa assuming he's still there that it, United are after Griezeman so he won't be going there, so that leaves maybe only Arsenal, who will possibly be looking for a replacement for Sanchez, but they might not be in the Champions league next season

I still think theres more chance of him going abroad to PSG as replacement for Cavani or to Atletico as a replacment for Griezman. I cant see Arsenal even entering the negotiations for what we want, the only English club will be Chelsea but that'll only happen if Costa goes imo.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 16, 2017, 05:51:20 PM
We shouldn't sell to any British clubs, regardless of when he leaves. I'd even take a 10m hit to sell him abroad, if necessary. He's going to be one of the premium strikers in the world for years. We shouldn't be making anyone stronger, if we're aspiring to compete with them.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 16, 2017, 06:03:59 PM
Last summer's transfer window was fine for me. You can't just go throwing money about like an idiot. Well you can but I'm pleased we didn't.

Yes I thought it was ok too.

It doesn't help in this instance though as the subject is viewing things through a shorter time period.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 16, 2017, 06:06:31 PM
If he wants guaranteed Champions League football every year he should tell his agent to get in touch with PSG's owners and I'd happily take very top dollar for him. It'd stop this silly posturing, he gets his wish to win some trophies (albeit in a tinpot league) and we get to rebuild with players who know what we're about and want to be on board with where we're going.

It'd be shit to lose such a top goalscorer but it seems he's now reached a point where he wants to be playing in big games immediately and unfortunately we're not there yet, if ever.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 16, 2017, 06:07:07 PM
So it's nothing to do with players we could have signed or him questioning our ambition. It's everything to do with him finally being at a level to attract interest from clubs we could never have realistically been in this period of time

He's very subtly handing out a little blame when in reality no one is to blame. It's just how football is

But we could have been 50% closer than we are, for example.

That might not have been enough for him to stay (probably wouldn't) but it's a factor that he's looking at when we're asking him to sign a new deal.

We'd all prefer this not to pop up in public but it's not the end of the world that it does; assuming that we are in a place to disprove what he's saying whether he stays or not.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Rodenplav64 on March 16, 2017, 06:07:44 PM
We shouldn't sell to any British clubs, regardless of when he leaves. I'd even take a 10m hit to sell him abroad, if necessary. He's going to be one of the premium strikers in the world for years. We shouldn't be making anyone stronger, if we're aspiring to compete with them.

Apology taken but I can't help think he would struggle in a top side . His first touch is shite and in general his awareness of whats around him is poor . I don't want to push my luck as far as talking shite goes but I think the pond he will end up swimming in isn't much bigger than ours . Nothing wrong with having ambitions but I just wish him and his agent would button it for a while .
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Waltzer on March 16, 2017, 06:09:34 PM
We shouldn't sell to any British clubs, regardless of when he leaves. I'd even take a 10m hit to sell him abroad, if necessary. He's going to be one of the premium strikers in the world for years. We shouldn't be making anyone stronger, if we're aspiring to compete with them.

You need to take into account the individual, its easy saying that but id hope as a club we would have some integrity in our dealing with players. I appreciate what your saying but if Chelsea lost Costa and we sold them Lukaku are they stronger? I know who id rather have any day of the week.
We might be perceived as being weaker but better players have left other teams and they've gone from strength to strength.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 16, 2017, 06:16:53 PM
You need to take into account the individual, its easy saying that but id hope as a club we would have some integrity in our dealing with players. I appreciate what your saying but if Chelsea lost Costa and we sold them Lukaku are they stronger? I know who id rather have any day of the week.
We might be perceived as being weaker but better players have left other teams and they've gone from strength to strength.

If Costa goes that's irrelevant.

The comparison is would they be stronger with a proven PL player than if they signed someone else who's more of a gamble.

Chelsea would be thinking that yes, they would be stronger otherwise they wouldn't be trying to sign him.

Therefore that's the position.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 16, 2017, 06:17:41 PM
Apology taken but I can't help think he would struggle in a top side . His first touch is shite and in general his awareness of whats around him is poor . I don't want to push my luck as far as talking shite goes but I think the pond he will end up swimming in isn't much bigger than ours . Nothing wrong with having ambitions but I just wish him and his agent would button it for a while .

Possible but the weaknesses are improving all the time.

Look at last week for an example.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 16, 2017, 06:19:13 PM
You need to take into account the individual, its easy saying that but id hope as a club we would have some integrity in our dealing with players. I appreciate what your saying but if Chelsea lost Costa and we sold them Lukaku are they stronger? I know who id rather have any day of the week.
We might be perceived as being weaker but better players have left other teams and they've gone from strength to strength.

And you have to look at the value of the player to the club over the full period of the contract. Would I rather have the next 5 years of Lukaku or the next 5 years of Costa?

Rom, without a shadow.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 16, 2017, 06:25:43 PM
It's cut and dry for me.

Lukuka can think what he wants and have any level of ambition he wants but discuss this internally with the club and not any other way.

The lad has achieved very little in the game of football and is 23 years old.

Anyone thinking he has a right to do what he has done(in public) is crazy
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Hawkandro on March 16, 2017, 06:30:45 PM
I still have a feeling Lukaku will be here next season, maybe leaving after the World Cup, if at all. He said what a lot of fans have been thinking; yes, the January window was OK (should have signed one or two more if possible), but the last summer window was pretty poor all in all.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 16, 2017, 06:33:54 PM


The lad has achieved very little in the game of football and is 23 years old.



That's his point ;)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Rodenplav64 on March 16, 2017, 06:34:39 PM
Possible but the weaknesses are improving all the time.

Look at last week for an example.

I thought he was a bit static for most of the game and kept drifting out to the wing ( not something I enjoy watching ) . I get WBA doubled up on him but his assist was a bit spawny ( although I liked his persistence ) and his goal was down to a bute of a delivery from Barkley . I want him to stay but he annoys me and entertains me in equal amounts . I certainly can't argue his goals tally but that is in a team that seems to revolve around him .
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 16, 2017, 06:37:31 PM
Apology taken but I can't help think he would struggle in a top side . His first touch is shite and in general his awareness of whats around him is poor . I don't want to push my luck as far as talking shite goes but I think the pond he will end up swimming in isn't much bigger than ours . Nothing wrong with having ambitions but I just wish him and his agent would button it for a while .

You see now we're going off topic. He's our best player and in a side with more quality he'd improve and score even more probably. That shouldn't really be up for debate. 
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 16, 2017, 06:38:48 PM
I still have a feeling Lukaku will be here next season, maybe leaving after the World Cup, if at all. He said what a lot of fans have been thinking; yes, the January window was OK (should have signed one or two more if possible), but the last summer window was pretty poor all in all.

I totally agree. I like the new majority shareholder, I'm happy with the manager, the progress on the ground, the new sponsorship deals, the new players. It's all great. I believe the money and the will is there now to take the club to that next level. I'm fully signed up.

But...they did fuck last summer up a bit. And that's understandable. It would be weird it there were no teething problems, for the amount of change we're attempting to undergo in such a short time. We're the footballing equivalent of China trying to rush through an industrial revolution in about 5 years.

So when Rom is a bit critical of last summer's dealings, I sympathise and I think it's a legitimate criticism, while still being completely enamoured with, and behind, the upward trajectory.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 16, 2017, 06:40:24 PM
I thought he was a bit static for most of the game and kept drifting out to the wing ( not something I enjoy watching ) . I get WBA doubled up on him but his assist was a bit spawny ( although I liked his persistence ) and his goal was down to a bute of a delivery from Barkley . I want him to stay but he annoys me and entertains me in equal amounts . I certainly can't argue his goals tally but that is in a team that seems to revolve around him .


The drifting out wide was tactical as Koeman praised him for it after the game (and it resulted in the first two goals).

But the other stuff is always going to be personal opinion ;)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: van der Meyde on March 16, 2017, 06:42:15 PM
Last summer's transfer window was fine for me. You can't just go throwing money about like an idiot. Well you can but I'm pleased we didn't.
I agree that you can't just throw money around like an idiot, but we did leave several key positions unfilled.

It might not be realistic, but I suspect there's an element of Rom wanting sweeping changes/improvements based on what he's said. A better goalkeeper, a better creative midfielder, a better second striker... They're all areas that have needed strengthening pretty much throughout his time at the club.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 16, 2017, 06:46:37 PM
I don't think the club has lied to him or misled him though.

We just found it more difficult than we thought it would be to sign the level of players that we want.

The end result is the same though which is the issue, seemingly, for Lukaku.

Which if it is, you can see why he'd want a lower release clause as it's easier to bail if we're not progressing.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Tinga on March 16, 2017, 07:22:24 PM
It'd be a damn fucking shame to lose Lukaku just before the Everton giant finally wakes up. With a bit of a hope we can ask him to give us one more season, doubt we'll get much more from him if we don't get champions league next year.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Gary1878 on March 16, 2017, 07:38:12 PM
If i was in Romelu's shoes/boots, it seems silly to move to another PL club if he wants to be guaranteed CL football. It is now so competitive, and no one is guaranteed top 4 anymore. PSG, Real, Barca, Juve are the only teams in Europe with enough money in high quality leagues that can guarantee this every season.

Without any bias, I would think his best move would stick with Everton over the next year or so until a proper European giant came in for him. He would only be 25 in 2 years time, and probably an absolute beast of a player - his next move is the most important of his career and will make/break him. You never know, Everton might be at his level by then!

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 16, 2017, 07:45:00 PM
I don't think the club has lied to him or misled him though.

We just found it more difficult than we thought it would be to sign the level of players that we want.

The end result is the same though which is the issue, seemingly, for Lukaku.

Which if it is, you can see why he'd want a lower release clause as it's easier to bail if we're not progressing.

I just don't believe spending another 50 or 60 million would have made any difference. He wants to play for a club who can spend that on 1 player and have half a team worth that. That's fine but he shouldn't say it's about us not signing a player who no one cared about until after the fact
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 16, 2017, 07:46:50 PM
Any growth from us has to be organic to fit in with FFP rules, the old days of Man City and Chelsea have gone and the drawbridge has been pulled up behind them. We can only go so fast and unfortunately he's wasted the past two years under the last joker of a manager.

I understand his frustration but if he wants big games now then he's gonna have to go. On the other hand he could take a look at his idol Drogba's career and see he got his big move at 26 and he seemed to go on to do alright. He needs to have a think, preferably without his agent in the room.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 16, 2017, 08:00:35 PM
I just don't believe spending another 50 or 60 million would have made any difference. He wants to play for a club who can spend that on 1 player and have half a team worth that. That's fine but he shouldn't say it's about us not signing a player who no one cared about until after the fact

That's just an example though isn't it. It's the theory of what didn't happen.

And I do think an extra £50-60m would have helped.

A £30m CB and another £30m attacker would surely have been beneficial wouldn't it?

Assuming they worked out that's 2 positions we don't need to worry about this summer which may make him think that it's not that big a leap to make up (whatever this theoretical gap I'm talking about is :) )
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ell Capitan on March 16, 2017, 08:05:01 PM
I think the fact he’s coming out with all this in public is actually a good indication that he is very open to staying.

By talking to the press he’s put pressure on the club to respond and up its game in terms of transfers and ambition. 

If for example we land a couple of big name signings at the start of the summer, and he left anyway, he’d be open to accusations of dishonesty.

If he was fully committed to leaving, there would be no point in making any public statements, because he’s just then creating a rod for his own back. 

I think it’s his way of getting Everton to put its money where its mouth is. And, let’s be honest, doing it via the press like this is going to put a lot more pressure on Everton to respond than if he did it all in confidential conversations via his agent.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 16, 2017, 08:05:40 PM
That's just an example though isn't it. It's the theory of what didn't happen.

And I do think an extra £50-60m would have helped.

A £30m CB and another £30m attacker would surely have been beneficial wouldn't it?

Assuming they worked out that's 2 positions we don't need to worry about this summer which may make him think that it's not that big a leap to make up (whatever this theoretical gap I'm talking about is :) )

Would have helped our team but not in terms of keeping lukaku.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 16, 2017, 08:08:18 PM
I think the fact he’s coming out with all this in public is actually a good indication that he is very open to staying.

By talking to the press he’s put pressure on the club to respond and up its game in terms of transfers and ambition. 

If for example we land a couple of big name signings at the start of the summer, and he left anyway, he’d be open to accusations of dishonesty.

If he was fully committed to leaving, there would be no point in making any public statements, because he’s just then creating a rod for his own back. 

I think it’s his way of getting Everton to put its money where its mouth is. And, let’s be honest, doing it via the press like this is going to put a lot more pressure on Everton to respond than if he did it all in confidential conversations via his agent.


I don't.
I think is onsolving himself of blame. We just didn't quite do it. We had a chance of matching his ambition but fell a little short
The reality is we had no chance and that's actually fine too. Though people don't like to hear the truth that we had no chance of ever being good enough at this stage. People will blame moshiri now instead of lukaku. The reality is no ones to blame
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 16, 2017, 08:08:22 PM
Would have helped our team but not in terms of keeping lukaku.

Arguably it would have though as you'd like to think we'd a little better off in terms of current points total with an upgrade on Mori/Jags/Williams and Valencia. Therefore in a much better position to give him the Champions League games he craves in the very near future. 
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: brap2 on March 16, 2017, 08:10:15 PM
I apologise. My post my unnecessarily personal and slightly abusive.

Nah his mate sounds like a bellend.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 16, 2017, 08:17:02 PM
Arguably it would have though as you'd like to think we'd a little better off in terms of current points total with an upgrade on Mori/Jags/Williams and Valencia. Therefore in a much better position to give him the Champions League games he craves in the very near future. 

He's talking about Chelsea or PSG. They win titles. They have ambitions of winning the champions league. It's not just about getting 4th
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 16, 2017, 08:21:32 PM
He's talking about Chelsea or PSG. They win titles. They have ambitions of winning the champions league. It's not just about getting 4th

I know that but, and I may be wrong, if we were sat in 4th now I don't think we'd be hearing these types of noises. Remember 4th is only a couple of decent results away. If the atrocious 1 win in 10 run we had was improved on even slightly we'd be right in amongst it now and it's my view he would have batted away any questions until the summer. Quite rightly so.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 16, 2017, 08:35:45 PM
Ron getting just the right balance here

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/koeman-unhappy-over-lukaku-interview-12751492
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 16, 2017, 08:37:49 PM
I know that but, and I may be wrong, if we were sat in 4th now I don't think we'd be hearing these types of noises. Remember 4th is only a couple of decent results away. If the atrocious 1 win in 10 run we had was improved on even slightly we'd be right in amongst it now and it's my view he would have batted away any questions until the summer. Quite rightly so.

Wouldn't be mentioning it but would still want to go.

I actually don't think anyone's at fault. Lukaku is trying to protect himself by blaming the lack of signings but I think the reality is he'd want to go regardless and there's no blame to give out. Not to him or the club.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 16, 2017, 08:44:10 PM
Like what Koeman has said there
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Gary1878 on March 16, 2017, 09:09:31 PM
I like this from Rom:

'I'm not scared of anything,' he said. 'I'm just playing football and trying to do whatever I can to help Everton become a better club. Like every team-mate. We want the best for the club because we have great facilities, good fans. An example like Everton in the Community who work hard. You have a good bunch of lads.
'But at the end of the day fans want to see trophies. Players want trophies so we need to try more, give a bit more. You should not shy away from it.
'If you don't win a trophy, something has gone wrong because if you have the belief that you can do something, you can do it. If you have the belief, you work and focus, then you can get it. Nothing is going to stop you. That's how I think.'
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on March 16, 2017, 09:13:57 PM
I like this from Rom:

'I'm not scared of anything,' he said. 'I'm just playing football and trying to do whatever I can to help Everton become a better club. Like every team-mate. We want the best for the club because we have great facilities, good fans. An example like Everton in the Community who work hard. You have a good bunch of lads.
'But at the end of the day fans want to see trophies. Players want trophies so we need to try more, give a bit more. You should not shy away from it.
'If you don't win a trophy, something has gone wrong because if you have the belief that you can do something, you can do it. If you have the belief, you work and focus, then you can get it. Nothing is going to stop you. That's how I think.'

Great facilities but not great fans, maybe that's telling ?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: bacon sarnie on March 16, 2017, 09:15:36 PM
Sign or fuck off. Simple really.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Rodenplav64 on March 16, 2017, 09:17:36 PM
Nah his mate sounds like a bellend.

So do you .
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on March 16, 2017, 09:17:48 PM
Or don't sign, pour your guts out over the next ten games and score a shed load, then fuck off.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: pjk on March 16, 2017, 09:18:29 PM
It only remains for Ronald's first autobiography to come out, so we can find out why he didn't honour his contract at Southampton. Either they tried forcing him into signing an extension, or he jumped ship due to Southampton not giving him some sort of option. (That would be after he completed his final year.) I don't think Koeman is a hypocrite, otherwise he wouldn't of mentioned players honouring their contract.

They don't have it easy these high profile football managers. On a brighter note: I liked him getting Bolshy with the Journalist who used the word ultimatum. It was very impressive when he made a point of waiting for the latent question and answered it quite correctly, despite being a bit red under the collar. Nice one Ronald. Waiting for the book. :)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 16, 2017, 09:22:22 PM
I don't.
I think is onsolving himself of blame. We just didn't quite do it. We had a chance of matching his ambition but fell a little short
The reality is we had no chance and that's actually fine too. Though people don't like to hear the truth that we had no chance of ever being good enough at this stage. People will blame moshiri now instead of lukaku. The reality is no ones to blame


Completely agree...

The only issue is the way he has publicly questioned the club and at this stage of the season. There is just no reason for it at all other than to attract interest, and for that he's a shit house.

He's pushing for a move and trying to act like it's not his fault he wants to leave, which is an absolute joke.

Grow a pair, wait till the end of the season and tell the club I want to leave because you can't improve quick enough for my liking. But don't dress it up and try and make the fans think it's a problem at board level because it absolutely isn't.

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: pjk on March 16, 2017, 09:28:25 PM
Great facilities but not great fans, maybe that's telling ?



He's being honest. He's not deaf is he? That's one thing I can't stand at Goodison sometimes is, when small numbers of the crowd think they know better and think they can orchestrate from the side-lines. I've heard stuff like fuck off you lazy cunt, and that was on match of the day a while back. It came from the lower burrens or the paddock, "or was that aimed at Barkley?" Anyway; you get my drift.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 16, 2017, 09:30:37 PM
I said yesterday that he deserves to play at a higher level. The more I think about it I'm starting to doubt that.

He's not elite level for me yet. He's top 4 prem level and nothing more yet. And I genuinely believe we are top 4 standard next season and beyond.

He would do himself a favour to stay with us a few more years and be the big fish.

I genuinely think he could drop of the radar really quickly if he makes the wrong move.

I think he's hearing noises from United. If he goes there he's fucked if you ask me
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: formerKHL on March 16, 2017, 09:33:48 PM
surely the board/management team has outlined the business plan/project to the players for at least the next 3-5years ?

if this is the case is lukaku just saying he as a player  doesn't like/agree to the plan/project ?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on March 16, 2017, 09:37:11 PM
I said yesterday that he deserves to play at a higher level. The more I think about it I'm starting to doubt that.

He's not elite level for me yet. He's top 4 prem level and nothing more yet. And I genuinely believe we are top 4 standard next season and beyond.

He would do himself a favour to stay with us a few more years and be the big fish.

I genuinely think he could drop of the radar really quickly if he makes the wrong move.

I think he's hearing noises from United. If he goes there he's fucked if you ask me

I don't think that we can dismiss the attraction of Chelsea or any other top 4 London club. He disappears to Belgium and his mates/family at every opportunity, there are ten trains a day from London to Brussels and he would be there in two hours door to door, London life two hours from home.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Alanvideo on March 16, 2017, 09:42:38 PM


He's being honest. He's not deaf is he? That's one thing I can't stand at Goodison sometimes is, when small numbers of the crowd think they know better and think they can orchestrate from the side-lines. I've heard stuff like fuck off you lazy cunt, and that was on match of the day a while back. It came from the lower burrens or the paddock, "or was that aimed at Barkley?" Anyway; you get my drift.
....................I don't think he's having a go at the crowd just because he called the fans good and not great. There will always be the odd dickhead who shouts abuse but generally Lukaku  is well supported/encouraged and we sing his name when he scores. Can't do much more than that.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 16, 2017, 09:45:12 PM
surely the board/management team has outlined the business plan/project to the players for at least the next 3-5years ?

if this is the case is lukaku just saying he as a player  doesn't like/agree to the plan/project ?


He says in his interview he doesn't know the boards plans.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: formerKHL on March 16, 2017, 09:51:50 PM

He says in his interview he doesn't know the boards plans.

they've only got themselves to blame then...he did however, say he had long chats with koeman during the summer who obviously outlined his plans for him, the team and the club.....I think he's been listening to his mates too much.. our summer transfer window was obviously below his expectations too based on what he'd obviously been told....
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 16, 2017, 09:56:46 PM
I don't think that we can dismiss the attraction of Chelsea or any other top 4 London club. He disappears to Belgium and his mates/family at every opportunity, there are ten trains a day from London to Brussels and he would be there in two hours door to door, London life two hours from home.


I'm not dismissing it..

Everton will challenge for the top 4 spots before he's 26 in my opinion.

He's not good enough for the elite clubs right now so why move.

He can sit on the bench of an elite club and watch his team mates win trophy after trophy but does that really match this ambition he speaks off? I'm not sure it does

The situation is fishy for me. We've spent more money than we ever have in the last windows and we have an awesome stadium about to drop.

He wants to make insta vids with pogba and his other little mates
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 16, 2017, 10:10:17 PM
He's more than good enough for the elite clubs now.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluenose 91 on March 16, 2017, 10:16:57 PM
Haha getting in the ''he was shit anyway'' stuff nice and early
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 16, 2017, 10:22:35 PM

I'm not dismissing it..

Everton will challenge for the top 4 spots before he's 26 in my opinion.

He's not good enough for the elite clubs right now so why move.

He can sit on the bench of an elite club and watch his team mates win trophy after trophy but does that really match this ambition he speaks off? I'm not sure it does

The situation is fishy for me. We've spent more money than we ever have in the last windows and we have an awesome stadium about to drop.

He wants to make insta vids with pogba and his other little mates

No one pays £60-70m for someone to sit on their bench.

If one of these teams are in for him (and it's safe to assume that they've told him they will be) then they will be going to play him.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on March 16, 2017, 11:29:37 PM
We shouldn't sell to any British clubs, regardless of when he leaves. I'd even take a 10m hit to sell him abroad, if necessary. He's going to be one of the premium strikers in the world for years. We shouldn't be making anyone stronger, if we're aspiring to compete with them.

Was gonna say this. Vitally important.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Rodenplav64 on March 16, 2017, 11:40:25 PM
Was gonna say this. Vitally important.

If you are going to sell someone then sell him to the highest bidder . By the time we can challenge the top 6 season in season out Lukau will be on sticks .
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 16, 2017, 11:49:06 PM
He's more than good enough for the elite clubs now.

In your opinion he might be.

I don't think he is, not consistently anyway. He will be if continues to develop in the same way, I don't deny that.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 16, 2017, 11:50:20 PM
No one pays £60-70m for someone to sit on their bench.

If one of these teams are in for him (and it's safe to assume that they've told him they will be) then they will be going to play him.


It's never safe to assume.

And to guess is just stupid really
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 16, 2017, 11:57:39 PM
In your opinion he might be.

I don't think he is, not consistently anyway. He will be if continues to develop in the same way, I don't deny that.
He's on a par with Harry Kane who plays for an elite club. He's better than ibrahimovich who plays for an elite club.

He's at the level now and his performances justify that.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 17, 2017, 12:11:15 AM
Was gonna say this. Vitally important.

If he's for sale he should be for sale to everyone at the same price (minus maybe Liverpool) we start forcing players to leave the country to get a move we are going to put off potential signings
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 17, 2017, 12:32:53 AM
If he's for sale he should be for sale to everyone at the same price (minus maybe Liverpool) we start forcing players to leave the country to get a move we are going to put off potential signings

Not at all. Big clubs in the same league don't normally sell to each other. If we want to be one of the big clubs, they we shouldn't sell to our rivals unless we're taking the piss out of them, like the Stones situation.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on March 17, 2017, 12:40:51 AM
Don't you long for the days when the only thing we had to moan/worry about was the cladding.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: cantoffee on March 17, 2017, 12:46:45 AM
I think it's amazing how everything he says is picked apart. He says how we have great facilities and good fans and goes on the praise the club for all its work in the community and yet someone picks up that he doesn't think the fans are great.

I think he genuinely likes it here, likes the club, likes the fans and just wants to win. We need more players with his drive and will to win. You can see it in the way he talks and how he has improved, he is relentlessly pursuing success. Even in this team he thinks we can do more.

His unwillingness to accept second best is refreshing given our lack of success over the last 20 years.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Toddacelli on March 17, 2017, 01:21:27 AM
I think it's amazing how everything he says is picked apart. He says how we have great facilities and good fans and goes on the praise the club for all its work in the community and yet someone picks up that he doesn't think the fans are great.

I think he genuinely likes it here, likes the club, likes the fans and just wants to win. We need more players with his drive and will to win. You can see it in the way he talks and how he has improved, he is relentlessly pursuing success. Even in this team he thinks we can do more.

His unwillingness to accept second best is refreshing given our lack of success over the last 20 years.

He's living Nil Satis Nisi Optimum - but how many others at the club are?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: brap2 on March 17, 2017, 01:31:07 AM
So do you .


Genuinely don't remember you being so contrary before koeman.

Was it because we previously agreed more? I don't know but I feel like you pop up a lot being contrary and confrontational.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 17, 2017, 01:45:18 AM

It's never safe to assume.

And to guess is just stupid really

Do you think it likely that someone would pay £60-70m for an option in the squad?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 17, 2017, 01:47:02 AM
He's on a par with Harry Kane who plays for an elite club. He's better than ibrahimovich who plays for an elite club.

He's at the level now and his performances justify that.


Oh dear
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 17, 2017, 01:53:24 AM
Do you think it likely that someone would pay £60-70m for an option in the squad?


Not knowingly obviously..

But do you think when/if he shows the inconsistencies we've seen for Everton over the last few years they will start him? I don't

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 17, 2017, 01:57:36 AM
Not at all. Big clubs in the same league don't normally sell to each other. If we want to be one of the big clubs, they we shouldn't sell to our rivals unless we're taking the piss out of them, like the Stones situation.

Don't think we can make him leave the country if he doesn't want to. We've got too many rivals if it's a third of the league. If he's not interested in going abroad (or there's no takers) he'd have to run his contract down and we don't want that anyway
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 17, 2017, 02:03:01 AM
Been great this season. I do still think he's a level below the top strikers in the league though. Not as good as Aguero, Sanchez, Kane or Costa for me. He'd only be an improvement on what they have at the 2 clubs above us that are struggling for a forward
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 17, 2017, 02:10:26 AM

Not knowingly obviously..

But do you think when/if he shows the inconsistencies we've seen for Everton over the last few years they will start him? I don't



No but they're becoming less and less.

And I've always thought that the inconsistencies were partly because there wasn't the demand (either from himself or the management) to really be on it all the time. That wouldn't be the case at somewhere like that for the reasons you state.

Anyway I hope we don't find out ;)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 17, 2017, 02:11:40 AM
No but they're becoming less and less.

And I've always thought that the inconsistencies were partly because there wasn't the demand (either from himself or the management) to really be on it all the time. That wouldn't be the case at somewhere like that for the reasons you state.

Anyway I hope we don't find out ;)

Do you think he'll stay? I'd be very surprised if he did.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: velimski on March 17, 2017, 02:12:32 AM
Been great this season. I do still think he's a level below the top strikers in the league though. Not as good as Aguero, Sanchez, Kane or Costa for me. He'd only be an improvement on what they have at the 2 clubs above us that are struggling for a forward

There's every chance that Arsenal and Chelsea will be looking for a new striker this summer.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 17, 2017, 02:14:53 AM
Do you think he'll stay? I'd be very surprised if he did.

If I had to say - I'd say no.

But that's because I think he's been told that a CL club will be in for him.

However given, as has been discussed before, there aren't that many potential options never mind actual ones, there must be the chance that that club's plans will change.

E.g. If it's Chelsea Costa might stay or they might want Morata at half the price as their preference (and they're currently tapping up both of them) and if he says yes they won't want both etc.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: ajax_andy on March 17, 2017, 02:49:19 AM
There's every chance that Arsenal and Chelsea will be looking for a new striker this summer.

Man U too I reckon... Rooney shipped out, Ibra a year older, Martial possibly will leave, Rashford not really fancied in the central role.

Could easily see Lukaku and Ibra being rotated with the former being seen as their long term main striker
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: velimski on March 17, 2017, 02:54:43 AM
Man U too I reckon... Rooney shipped out, Ibra a year older, Martial possibly will leave, Rashford not really fancied in the central role.

Could easily see Lukaku and Ibra being rotated with the former being seen as their long term main striker

Zlatan doesn't do rotation.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blue slug on March 17, 2017, 02:55:12 AM
I really do rate lukaku but I agree with others he hasn't got the same all round game as your agueros, Sanchez or costa. He does miss a fair few chances and he's a big fish in our small pond. If he went to a top team and had one of his few game droughts he'd be out the starting 11 and that's if he gets in. I can see why he wants to be playing champions league footy but to be honest we should be able to pay a lot more wages than Seville, Dortmund, athletico and teams like that, we just need to make some quality signings, give him a big wage and hopefully he will sign on
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Alfie Noakes on March 17, 2017, 03:16:19 AM
There's every chance that Arsenal and Chelsea will be looking for a new striker this summer.

He says he wants to win trophies so that's Arsenal out for a start.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Toddacelli on March 17, 2017, 03:20:15 AM

Not knowingly obviously..

But do you think when/if he shows the inconsistencies we've seen for Everton over the last few years they will start him? I don't



Yes. They will.

He has so many other qualities that everyone knows he is already a top player and can be great. You think they'll stifle his development and harm a very substantial investment by leaving him on the bench for not being the finished article at 23? I don't.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: brap2 on March 17, 2017, 03:23:24 AM
Are we really still having the discussion over whether he's good enough for a top team 😫
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 17, 2017, 03:52:21 AM
Are we really still having the discussion over whether he's good enough for a top team 😫

Rationalization and other nonsense
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on March 17, 2017, 05:13:46 AM
No way will Arsenal pay 70mill, and Man utd might not get CL next season so that really only leaves Chelsea in the Prem, as don't think he fits Peps teams , top 4 is not  a forgone conclusion these days, nothing will be sorted I think until the end of the season......
For me he has to get 30 Goals for even the top top boys outside the Prem to take any serious notice ( as they all ready have World Class Forwards)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on March 17, 2017, 10:12:33 AM
I really do rate lukaku but I agree with others he hasn't got the same all round game as your agueros, Sanchez or costa. He does miss a fair few chances and he's a big fish in our small pond. If he went to a top team and had one of his few game droughts he'd be out the starting 11 and that's if he gets in. I can see why he wants to be playing champions league footy but to be honest we should be able to pay a lot more wages than Seville, Dortmund, athletico and teams like that, we just need to make some quality signings, give him a big wage and hopefully he will sign on

Miss chances? Rom? HAhAHAHAHA. There is no more lethal striker in the league. He is the best finisher in the league right now and by some distance. He is the leagues top scorer in a team currently 7th. We don't create nearly as many chances per game as Spurs or City etc yet he is still the leagues top scorer.

Have a debate sure, but think before you type.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Rodenplav64 on March 17, 2017, 01:33:11 PM
Genuinely don't remember you being so contrary before koeman.

Was it because we previously agreed more? I don't know but I feel like you pop up a lot being contrary and confrontational.

Not at all Brap2 . I was very contrary under Moyes and in general I think Martinez caused a bit of NSNO polarisation . Nothing personal in any case and I have sort of got on board as the season has progressed . I suppose I will always appear contrary regards Lukaku , Bolasie and maybe Koemann until any of them actually achieve something .
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 17, 2017, 02:20:46 PM
Miss chances? Rom? HAhAHAHAHA. There is no more lethal striker in the league. He is the best finisher in the league right now and by some distance. He is the leagues top scorer in a team currently 7th. We don't create nearly as many chances per game as Spurs or City etc yet he is still the leagues top scorer.

Have a debate sure, but think before you type.


That's in your opinion and these are your assumptions.

Take your own advice and do some of this "thinking" you speak off.


Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Rodenplav64 on March 17, 2017, 02:57:16 PM

That's in your opinion and these are your assumptions.

Take your own advice and do some of this "thinking" you speak off.




Confucius says ............................. ...............
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blue slug on March 18, 2017, 03:16:07 AM
Miss chances? Rom? HAhAHAHAHA. There is no more lethal striker in the league. He is the best finisher in the league right now and by some distance. He is the leagues top scorer in a team currently 7th. We don't create nearly as many chances per game as Spurs or City etc yet he is still the leagues top scorer.

Have a debate sure, but think before you type.


Just my opinion fella, be a boring world and forum if we all agreed. Imo Kane, aguero, Sanchez and zlatan are all better finishers. Kane's missed a fair few games this season as has aguero. I do agree roms  been more lethal this season
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 18, 2017, 03:42:36 AM
Just my opinion fella, be a boring world and forum if we all agreed. Imo Kane, aguero, Sanchez and zlatan are all better finishers. Kane's missed a fair few games this season as has aguero. I do agree roms  been more lethal this season


Is Kane not statistically more lethal than Rom?

Anyway I don't rate him as one of the best yet, he's very close but not yet.

Wouldn't do him any harm staying a few more seasons to see how the "project" goes as long as he keeps his opinions of this nature to himself and the club I'll be happy.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on March 18, 2017, 03:47:34 AM
Aren't a few of Kane's goals penalties though. I know it's still a goal, but muddies the water a little.
Remember Andy Johnson scoring about 10 penalties the year before we signed him.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Major Clanger on March 18, 2017, 03:53:56 AM
Just my opinion fella, be a boring world and forum if we all agreed. Imo Kane, aguero, Sanchez and zlatan are all better finishers. Kane's missed a fair few games this season as has aguero. I do agree roms  been more lethal this season

They're really not. You can argue about their all-round game but looking strictly at finishing (naturally that excludes penalties, so Harry Kane falls quite far the list straight away :)), not only do they need more chances to score, they're also not as versatile.

Show me a striker who can put them away with both feet and can head the ball too.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Major Clanger on March 18, 2017, 03:57:05 AM
Is Kane not statistically more lethal than Rom?

No, he isn't. He takes an awful lot of hopeful pot shots from outside the area.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blue slug on March 18, 2017, 03:58:44 AM
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.footballinsider247.com/a-statistical-analysis-harry-kane-v-romelu-lukaku/amp/

Here's a link their quite evenly matched to be honest
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on March 18, 2017, 05:06:47 AM
I think who is more lethal out of Lukaku and Kane can be answered by @kramer0 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4360)    ;D

Although it seems pretty obvious to me, Kane had scored 4 penalties, all of Lukakus have come from open play.
Lukaku has the better shot to goal conversion (which is even more impressive because of Kane's 4 penalties).

The English media just love Kane though.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Trowel on March 18, 2017, 05:14:06 AM
When Alexander the Great was 33 he cried salt tears because there were no more worlds to conquer.

Lukaku is only 23.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 18, 2017, 02:25:12 PM
Haha I love how penalties are dismissed for absolutely no logical reason whatsoever.

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ell Capitan on March 18, 2017, 02:31:43 PM
Well this is a fun debate. 
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 18, 2017, 02:37:44 PM
Haha I love how penalties are dismissed for absolutely no logical reason whatsoever.



Well if you give Diana Ross 100 penalties she might score 5. It's not really a test of a goalscorer.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 18, 2017, 02:46:03 PM
Not really sure why people are still talking about Harry Kane tbh.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: terrydarracotsbaldpate on March 18, 2017, 03:07:55 PM
Sell him for £60 mil and buy Dembele from Celtic for £30 mil.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 18, 2017, 03:08:57 PM
Well if you give Diana Ross 100 penalties she might score 5. It's not really a test of a goalscorer.


If she scored 100 out of a 100 is she not a lethal goal scorer?

In comparison to someone who scored 1 out of a 100?



Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 18, 2017, 03:10:19 PM
Not really sure why people are still talking about Harry Kane tbh.


Because the topic had evolved into talking about goalscorers and Kane is one of them.

Hope that explains it..
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 18, 2017, 03:21:05 PM

Because the topic had evolved into talking about goalscorers and Kane is one of them.

Hope that explains it..

Partially, like.

Didn't we do this subject to death in the lead upto and subsequent to the Spurs game?

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 18, 2017, 03:23:04 PM
Partially, like.

Didn't we do this subject to death in the lead upto and subsequent to the Spurs game?

You might of yes.. I'm not really arsed about that though.

I've spoke about plenty of managers and players on more than one occasion, sometimes on consecutive days.

Mad this liking football lark isn't it? It makes you interested in it
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 18, 2017, 03:24:14 PM
You might of yes.. I'm not really arsed about that though.

I've spoke about plenty of managers and players on more than one occasion, sometimes on consecutive days.

Mad this liking football lark isn't it? It makes you interested in it

You crack on then, mate. Sounds like you're having a belter of a time, with this consecutive days thing you've got happening.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 18, 2017, 03:29:19 PM

If she scored 100 out of a 100 is she not a lethal goal scorer?

In comparison to someone who scored 1 out of a 100?





Well yes. If you're talking about an absolutely fantastic penalty taker who's better than what you've got then that's an asset. If you're talking about an okay 1 who scores some and misses some then it's worth nowt really. Not sure what Kane's record is like. It's not just as simple as adding 4 to his total when assessing him though. I might have scored 2. It's not outlandish to suggest I might have scored all 4
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 18, 2017, 03:31:17 PM
Sell him for £60 mil and buy Dembele from Celtic for £30 mil.


God no. 30m for a player who plays for an okay team in a league 2 standard league. Absolutely not for me
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 18, 2017, 03:46:18 PM
You crack on then, mate. Sounds like you're having a belter of a time, with this consecutive days thing you've got happening.


Thanks for that valuable input..

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: TheTone on March 18, 2017, 03:53:13 PM
Well if you give Diana Ross 100 penalties she might score 5. It's not really a test of a goalscorer.

Deffo not her, bad enough chain reaction when Mirallas took over
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Silas on March 18, 2017, 03:56:17 PM

God no. 30m for a player who plays for an okay team in a league 2 standard league. Absolutely not for me

If he was on top of Lukaku stopping he would probably be the sort of signing we should look at, instead of though? Fuck no
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 18, 2017, 04:01:50 PM
And now for something completely different:

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/lukaku-had-change-of-heart-after-mums-word-fs6fpjsct
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 18, 2017, 04:28:46 PM
If he was on top of Lukaku stopping he would probably be the sort of signing we should look at, instead of though? Fuck no

He's a punt. Might be brilliant might not. The problem is they'd want money that suggests he's definitely top quality. He'd be a massive risk

What about Tammy Abraham. Not as a direct replacement but as a young prospect especially if lukaku went to Chelsea. Think he'd be a similar punt but much cheaper
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Alanvideo on March 18, 2017, 04:44:00 PM
What about Tammy Abraham. Not as a direct replacement but as a young prospect especially if lukaku went to Chelsea. Think he'd be a similar punt but much cheaper
......................22 goals so far in a struggling team is impressive.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: brap2 on March 18, 2017, 06:20:05 PM
......................22 goals so far in a struggling team is impressive.

What level is he at though? Look at paddy bamford.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 18, 2017, 06:59:10 PM
What level is he at though? Look at paddy bamford.

Got to be harder than scoring goals for Celtic (though granted he's got a few in the champions league too) mainly though he'd be much cheaper and if lukaku is going to Chelsea they'd surely be easier to deal with than Celtic
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 19, 2017, 12:04:41 AM
Koeman's post match comment on Rom:

"The fans love Romelu Lukaku and everyone loves Rom. Yes, you may be able to hold him back for 85 minutes but then he was focused to the last second. We killed the game perfectly.

"You need to have hope in life! Of course we like to keep best players and we will do the maximum to keep these players but the final decision will be with the player himself"
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blueToffee on March 19, 2017, 12:12:02 AM
Koeman's post match comment on Rom:

"The fans love Romelu Lukaku and everyone loves Rom. Yes, you may be able to hold him back for 85 minutes but then he was focused to the last second. We killed the game perfectly.

"You need to have hope in life! Of course we like to keep best players and we will do the maximum to keep these players but the final decision will be with the player himself"

Doesn't exactly sound too hopeful when he puts it like that.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
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Maybe he's sorry
Maybe he's not
But 21 goals
In a season's a lot.
Still 9 games to go
To hit the big 30
We love you big Rom
So don't get  so shirty.
Stay and score goals
In the Gwladys street end
Give us a title cos
Moshi will spend.
Keep knocking them in
And we'll love you some more
Keep knocking em in Rom
And Tot up the score.
Get the gold boot mate
Give it a polish
We'll see you next season
More teams to demolish. :)

 
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: keiko on March 19, 2017, 01:05:06 AM
 :clap:
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on March 19, 2017, 02:10:54 AM

That's in your opinion and these are your assumptions.

Take your own advice and do some of this "thinking" you speak off.




4 shots, 3 on target, one a good save, another just over and 2 goals. yeah you right, he isn't lethal.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 19, 2017, 02:27:14 AM
4 shots, 3 on target, one a good save, another just over and 2 goals. yeah you right, he isn't lethal.

The only reason I can think that people don't think his finishing is very clinical is because they don't remember when Kane / Agüero / whoever miss because they're not bothered either way. Whereas when any of our players miss it's a big deal to us.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on March 19, 2017, 02:29:55 AM
The only reason I can think that people don't think his finishing is very clinical is because they don't remember when Kane / Agüero / whoever miss because they're not bothered either way. Whereas when any of our players miss it's a big deal to us.

I like that you try and figure things out and see someone else's point of view etc but there really is no justification. If we were top 3 then I can understand the debate. but he has scored 21 goals in the EPL this season. Our next best is 4. We obviously not one of the elite clubs so our chances created stat is lower but yet his goals for is just incredible and with no penalties.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 19, 2017, 02:39:25 AM
I like that you try and figure things out and see someone else's point of view etc but there really is no justification. If we were top 3 then I can understand the debate. but he has scored 21 goals in the EPL this season. Our next best is 4. We obviously not one of the elite clubs so our chances created stat is lower but yet his goals for is just incredible and with no penalties.

Haha, no I don't think he's anything other than clinical, but there must be reasons why people don't think that ;)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Major Clanger on March 19, 2017, 02:42:12 AM
Haha, no I don't think he's anything other than clinical, but there must be reasons why people don't think that ;)

We get to see every single mistake Lukaku makes, it's as simple as that.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Alanvideo on March 19, 2017, 02:42:26 AM
I liked the way Lukaku celebrated his first goal today ,obviously delighted. And the crowd backed him all day.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 19, 2017, 03:11:05 AM
It's great that Rom's leading the Premier League and banging them in for us.

It's slightly concerning our next highest is 4.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 19, 2017, 03:19:12 AM
It's great that Rom's leading the Premier League and banging them in for us.

It's slightly concerning our next highest is 4.

If Rom wasn't with us, I'm sure who we would have up there would be in double figures for us and we'd probably have more goals shared around.

We also have more players to have scored this season than any other club. We've scored 51, Rom has 21.

And how many of Rom's goals have mattered? I mean the two today and the one from last week for a start were merely icing on the cake and would make no difference to our points tally if scored or not.

So it's not a case of simply saying our next top scorer is on 4. I can think of three players who are on 4, Coleman, Valencia (I think) and Mirallas. There's 12.

I don't think it's that much of a concern.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Toddacelli on March 19, 2017, 03:21:22 AM
And the crowd backed him all day.

This makes me happy   :)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on March 19, 2017, 03:22:08 AM
If Rom wasn't with us, I'm sure who we would have up there would be in double figures for us and we'd probably have more goals shared around.

We also have more players to have scored this season than any other club. We've scored 51, Rom has 21.

And how many of Rom's goals have mattered? I mean the two today and the one from last week for a start were merely icing on the cake and would make no difference to our points tally if scored or not.

So it's not a case of simply saying our next top scorer is on 4. I can think of three players who are on 4, Coleman, Valencia (I think) and Mirallas. There's 12.

I don't think it's that much of a concern.

valencia has 2
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 19, 2017, 03:22:55 AM
valencia has 2

He scored today, v Spurs and I think he scored at least one other?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 19, 2017, 03:23:58 AM
He scored today, v Spurs and I think he scored at least one other?

He has three. The three players on 4 are Barkley, Coleman and Mirallas.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on March 19, 2017, 03:24:24 AM
He scored today, v Spurs and I think he scored at least one other?

That is still 3. 100% for effort though.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 19, 2017, 03:26:16 AM
https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/31/Show/England-Everton

Goalscorers this season, although it doesn't add up. I count 48 goals there, but we've scored 51.

Edit, 3 must ogs.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on March 19, 2017, 03:26:37 AM
https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/31/Show/England-Everton

Goalscorers this season, although it doesn't add up. I count 48 goals there, but we've scored 51.

Own goals?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 19, 2017, 03:27:37 AM
Own goals?

Yep.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 19, 2017, 03:28:54 AM
In other words, Rom is the funnel, we get the ball to him, like we did when we had Lineker.

Once we sold Lineker, those goals were distributed between Steven, Sharp and Heath who each got around 16 apiece.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Alanvideo on March 19, 2017, 03:31:36 AM
If Rom wasn't with us, I'm sure who we would have up there would be in double figures for us and we'd probably have more goals shared around..

I don't think it's that much of a concern.
....................... Rom has scored many goals that normal human beings could not. He is a beast.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 19, 2017, 03:32:49 AM
If Rom wasn't with us, I'm sure who we would have up there would be in double figures for us and we'd probably have more goals shared around.

We also have more players to have scored this season than any other club. We've scored 51, Rom has 21.

And how many of Rom's goals have mattered? I mean the two today and the one from last week for a start were merely icing on the cake and would make no difference to our points tally if scored or not.

So it's not a case of simply saying our next top scorer is on 4. I can think of three players who are on 4, Coleman, Valencia (I think) and Mirallas. There's 12.

I don't think it's that much of a concern.

It's concerning not in as much as we can't score without him but how much of our play seems focused around him and feeding him chances, in light of him now wanting to move on.

We're unlikely to be able to recruit like for like quality so we're going to have to have a rethink to be more of a balanced attacking threat without him, which means either changing formation or the recruitment of more than one player who is a genuine goal threat.

Or he could just stay and save us a load of hassle.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Toddacelli on March 19, 2017, 03:36:08 AM
It's concerning not in as much as we can't score without him but how much of our play seems focused around him and feeding him chances, in light of him now wanting to move on.

We're unlikely to be able to recruit like for like quality so we're going to have to have a rethink to be more of a balanced attacking threat without him, which means either changing formation or the recruitment of more than one player who is a genuine goal threat.

Or he could just stay and save us a load of hassle.

I really like the attacking three that some of the top clubs play. Obviously I don't think trying to emulate Barca next season is realistic on every level - BUT - we may have more chance of starting next season with 3 handy attacking players who can all score goals, than we do of finding another focal-point player like Lukaku.

Especially with how solid our midfield is shaping up to be behind.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 19, 2017, 03:36:15 AM
....................... Rom has scored many goals that normal human beings could not. He is a beast.

Agreed, we probably wouldn't have as many goals, but how many games has Rom actually won us this year?


It's concerning not in as much as we can't score without him but how much of our play seems focused around him and feeding him chances, in light of him now wanting to move on.

We're unlikely to be able to recruit like for like quality so we're going to have to have a rethink to be more of a balanced attacking threat without him, which means either changing formation or the recruitment of more than one player who is a genuine goal threat.

Or he could just stay and save us a load of hassle.

Don't get me wrong, I love having Rom and I love that he's the top scorer in the league, I never thought we'd see that again.

But as with my Lineker example above, if he does go, our style will have to change and our outlets are going to have to come from several sources rather than just one.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on March 19, 2017, 03:53:54 AM
Was mentioned some where today, might have been the stream I was watching  that we have had 15 different scorers this season the most by any team in the prem
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 19, 2017, 03:57:39 AM
Was mentioned some where today, might have been the stream I was watching  that we have had 15 different scorers this season the most by any team in the prem

I mentioned it near the top of page 25 :)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 19, 2017, 04:02:07 AM
I really like the attacking three that some of the top clubs play. Obviously I don't think trying to emulate Barca next season is realistic on every level - BUT - we may have more chance of starting next season with 3 handy attacking players who can all score goals, than we do of finding another focal-point player like Lukaku.

Especially with how solid our midfield is shaping up to be behind.

For that to happen we'd need Ross to step up to the plate with double figures, Rom's replacement to get into double figures too and an upgrade on Mirallas. Or a combination of Mirallas/Lookman/DCL regularly troubling the scorers.

Or it could be the year we see Davies blossom into a genuine attacking midfielder and add goals to his game.

Either way it needn't be too negative if Rom decides he does want out.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 19, 2017, 04:07:26 AM
For that to happen we'd need Ross to step up to the plate with double figures, Rom's replacement to get into double figures too and an upgrade on Mirallas. Or a combination of Mirallas/Lookman/DCL regularly troubling the scorers.

Or it could be the year we see Davies blossom into a genuine attacking midfielder and add goals to his game.

Either way it needn't be too negative if Rom decides he does want out.

Barkley got double figures a season or two back, didn't he?

But yes, that's what I've been trying to say, we can still build even if Rom does quit.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ari on March 19, 2017, 04:24:43 AM
I would pay him whatever he wants for playing and scoring for Everton.  200K a week will be announced at the same time as the stdium announcement next week.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 19, 2017, 04:25:48 AM
4 shots, 3 on target, one a good save, another just over and 2 goals. yeah you right, he isn't lethal.


See, this post only works if I'd said Lukaku wasn't lethal.

Problem is, I didn't say that did I? At any point.

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 19, 2017, 04:37:38 AM
I love Lukaku and will actually cry when he leaves
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: brap2 on March 19, 2017, 04:50:55 AM
Haha, no I don't think he's anything other than clinical, but there must be reasons why people don't think that ;)

Confirmation bias / selection bias.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: arteta4spain on March 19, 2017, 04:58:18 AM
I love Lukaku and will actually cry when he leaves
Same mate. He's the best striker we've had in a long time. Im torn in a way as we've now got the ability to push on. I was a mess when Arteta left. There was no news about us all day and then Sky say we're crossing over to Goodison Park and I was like ooh who we getting in. As soon as I knew it he was off. I was devastated but accepted it as it was the norm with our best players leaving for decent money a la Lescott, Rooney etc. But if Rom goes I'll be pissed that he couldn't stick for say two seasons. Even though that's when he's contracted to I'd be fuming if he didn't extend this season for a third so we can get some ££ for him if we fail to progress.
There's no reason to leave now unlike before. It'll hurt so much more than any other player leaving, even Rooney, in my eyes.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: sam of the south on March 19, 2017, 05:19:28 AM
According to that sneaky bell LeSaux, The Shite could be in for Rom
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 19, 2017, 05:20:19 AM
According to that sneaky bell LeSaux, The Shite could be in for Rom

I laughed out loud when he said that, fucking daft twat
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mayor Farnum on March 19, 2017, 05:22:47 AM
I don't know if this has been mentioned anywhere before but he's the first Everton player to score twenty league goals in a season since Gary Lineker.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 19, 2017, 05:25:48 AM
According to that sneaky bell LeSaux, The Shite could be in for Rom

Just saw that, the thick cunt.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: sam of the south on March 19, 2017, 05:36:02 AM
I laughed out loud when he said that, fucking daft twat

Just saw that, the thick cunt.

If that did transpire, however, it would crush my Everton Soul forever
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Zoolander on March 19, 2017, 05:40:17 AM
Just saw that, the thick cunt.
Words right out of my mouth
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 19, 2017, 06:01:47 AM
According to that sneaky bell LeSaux, The Shite could be in for Rom
Cringed when he said that, top clubs like Liverpool...
Bellend
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 19, 2017, 06:05:27 AM
Cringed when he said that, top clubs like Liverpool...
Bellend

The silly bumder
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 19, 2017, 06:13:46 AM
Never happen lads. We'd sell him for a tenner down St Johns before we let the RS get their grubby little mits on him.

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: curtly152 on March 19, 2017, 07:38:23 AM
At the end of the day Rom is still
With us and lets get behind him for now and have a good finish to the season! At the end of the day if he goes and we a good wedge what else can we do about it? COYB
Title: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: curtly152 on March 19, 2017, 07:56:56 AM
COYB
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 19, 2017, 05:25:08 PM
Here's the Mirror's latest 4 attempts to sell Lukaku :

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/romelu-lukakus-shock-new-contract-10052426
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/revealed-everton-chiefs-agreed-secret-10052099
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/romelu-lukakus-mum-urges-him-10054841
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/romelu-lukaku-could-talisman-jose-10055890

Three of those articles were published at about 10.30 last night, and another one this morning, along with the Barkley to Arsenal for £10m story, all by the Mirror. What a desperate fucking rag.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Alanvideo on March 19, 2017, 05:48:41 PM
Two of the journos on Sunday Supp said Lukaku should stay with Everton ,at least for another season. One of them ,the S*n guy said Everton are a bigger club than Chelsea ,you only have to look at the fantastic away following. I'm still not buying the S*n mate.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Trowel on March 19, 2017, 06:11:39 PM
https://twitter.com/JNorthcroft/status/843389734051287040
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 19, 2017, 06:15:15 PM
https://twitter.com/JNorthcroft/status/843389734051287040

Interesting. He's actually reputable, well sourced in Merseyside and an RS fan (so not biased toward us in any way).
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: sam of the south on March 19, 2017, 06:33:16 PM
Goals On Sunday were very respectful of us just now.

Kamara, Parlour, and Salako all said they hope and think Lukaku should stay, as we are moving forward, and should be close to top 4 next season.

Parlour also added that he hopes Koeman stays as well.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 19, 2017, 06:34:52 PM
Love the Barkley for 10 million story. We definitely need to get that mega deal done
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Tinga on March 19, 2017, 08:21:58 PM
I would love it if he signed, love it!. Just to stick up the rags click baiting arses. Bunch of cunts.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: sam of the south on March 19, 2017, 08:56:19 PM
I would love it if he signed, love it!. Just to stick up the rags click baiting arses. Bunch of cunts.

I agree with you, Mr.Keegan 😉
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Polledreng on March 19, 2017, 08:59:54 PM
Love the Barkley for 10 million story. We definitely need to get that mega deal done
think they said 10+ so I reckon we can get 11 for him
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 20, 2017, 03:52:37 PM
Well Lukaku is now away on international duty with Belgium, so we should expect a few stupid interviews and quotes as per
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Zoolander on March 21, 2017, 12:12:23 AM
Well Lukaku is now away on international duty with Belgium, so we should expect a few stupid interviews and quotes as per
Almost guaranteed, bet his old man pipes up as well.
On the plus side, a few days with Martinez and he may realise how good he actually has it now.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on March 21, 2017, 01:33:40 AM
Well Lukaku is now away on international duty with Belgium, so we should expect a few stupid interviews and quotes as per

most likely, thought all this contract talk would have started this week, and not at finch farm to be honest...........can't get any worse as we all now know the potential outcomes
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 21, 2017, 01:48:17 AM
Almost guaranteed, bet his old man pipes up as well.
On the plus side, a few days with Martinez and he may realise how good he actually has it now.

along those lines (like how you're thinking), how about we reduce that buyout clause if Koeman is no longer manager?  Another outside the box compromise?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Major Clanger on March 21, 2017, 02:29:56 AM
Almost guaranteed, bet his old man pipes up as well.
On the plus side, a few days with Martinez and he may realise how good he actually has it now.

We should really organise a Belgian Dad Bingo with all the usual phrases on the card.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 21, 2017, 05:30:02 PM
Wish Rom and Mirallas could swap dad's. Mirallas's old man hasn't said a word.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Alanvideo on March 21, 2017, 10:01:30 PM
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/moshiri-standing-between-lukaku-and-everton-exit-t0d3c5p7q
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 21, 2017, 10:03:57 PM
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/moshiri-standing-between-lukaku-and-everton-exit-t0d3c5p7q

Everton turned down a £70 million bid from Chelsea last summer for Lukaku with Moshiri newly ensconced at Goodison Park as the club’s major shareholder.

Did we fuck!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on March 21, 2017, 10:36:01 PM
Everton turned down a £70 million bid from Chelsea last summer for Lukaku with Moshiri newly ensconced at Goodison Park as the club’s major shareholder.
(
Did we fuck!

Don't believe it either but if that's the case then  they'll need to bid higher then,   if Costa does get off, they are the one's who need a replacement not us if we keep hold)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 21, 2017, 10:40:12 PM
Everton turned down a £70 million bid from Chelsea last summer for Lukaku with Moshiri newly ensconced at Goodison Park as the club’s major shareholder.

Did we fuck!


Conte was quoted saying that they were in for certain players but were quoted ridiculous prices.

Wouldn't stretch the imagination too far to assume he meant Lukaku.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on March 22, 2017, 12:31:06 AM
I'm hoping he celebrates his third goal against Liverpool by running over to the touch line and signing the contract.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on March 22, 2017, 12:47:58 AM
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/moshiri-standing-between-lukaku-and-everton-exit-t0d3c5p7q

copy and paste please, won't let me read it, have to pay.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on March 22, 2017, 12:48:58 AM
Name it the Lukaku stadium for all I care. Just get him signed.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 22, 2017, 12:57:17 AM
Buggers gonna leave just as I've warmed to him. Even saw a video of him doing kick ups (featuring the odd trick) the other day and he'd vastly improved
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Paddockoldie on March 22, 2017, 02:14:52 AM
I think because we're on the verge of doing something special.. at least that's the feeling why not put it to him that he's staying for next season regardless of the contract. If we don't qualify for the CL then he can go... put it in writing. 140k per week for a season isn't a bad deal. Even with 12 months left if he's banging them in someone will pay big to avoid losing out to a rival...
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on March 22, 2017, 02:20:12 AM
I think because we're on the verge of doing something special.. at least that's the feeling why not put it to him that he's staying for next season regardless of the contract. If we don't qualify for the CL then he can go... put it in writing. 140k per week for a season isn't a bad deal. Even with 12 months left if he's banging them in someone will pay big to avoid losing out to a rival...
   exactly.....would show ambition from us..
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Alanvideo on March 22, 2017, 02:58:46 AM
copy and paste please, won't let me read it, have to pay.
..........you don't need to pay ,just register for access to one or two articles per week.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: ally2 on March 22, 2017, 03:04:27 AM
We played the 'give us one more year' card last year. There's no point in doing it again as we would sell him next year regardless if he hadn't renewed by then.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Paddockoldie on March 22, 2017, 03:36:23 AM
We played the 'give us one more year' card last year. There's no point in doing it again as we would sell him next year regardless if he hadn't renewed by then.
Last year we didn't have Koeman or the optimism. Maybe you're right though.. let him go at the end of this season. We'll get more and that's more important than trying to keep him.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 22, 2017, 03:57:25 AM
Ultimately, I think the club really want to keep him, and perhaps the only way to do that is to demonstrate the ambition he spoke of very quickly in the transfer market. So that would either mean signing a couple of really big names before the season ends to join in July, or at the very latest, doing it just after the season finishes.

If we let things drag on with signings later into the summer, the way we did last year and even with Schneiderlin to some extent, I think he'll remain unconvinced about the ambition and want off very quickly. The onus is on the board to deliver sharpish. This is a massive opportunity to possibly keep Lukaku, and add some other top class players. Hope we don't waste it.
Title: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: ally2 on March 22, 2017, 04:08:09 AM
Last year we didn't have Koeman or the optimism. Maybe you're right though.. let him go at the end of this season. We'll get more and that's more important than trying to keep him.

Agree with BD. It's not about getting more money for him now. We don't have to let him go this summer but he may want to. The question everyone is asking themselves is whether he can be convinced to sign another contract now. It's now or never I think so what can we do?  Announce a new stadium and bring in excellent players.

Maybe it's all just a game though? He questions the ambition publicly, is then perceived to have made the difference when we inevitably sign good players. This makes him look ambitious and influential at the same time, gives him a pay rise and boosts his ego whilst the club gets lots of attention. He then signs a new contract but still has a clause to leave if he wants to one or two years from now. He gets his move after having given us another chance and we cash in as well.

It's almost too perfect!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: benny on March 22, 2017, 05:01:25 AM
I'm hoping he celebrates his third goal against Liverpool by running over to the touch line and signing the contract.

           that would be ace      :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ramjam on March 22, 2017, 05:22:37 AM
We don't need to even discuss his contract as he has two and a half years left to run on the current deal so The board should be saying there will be no contract talks until this time next year, end of story.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 22, 2017, 06:15:00 AM
We don't need to even discuss his contract as he has two and a half years left to run on the current deal so The board should be saying there will be no contract talks until this time next year, end of story.

Couldn't agree more..

Offer him a new contract yes, he's certainty worth the money but don't let the fucker dictate, if he doesn't sign it then so be it either sell to the highest bidder or keep him and remind him of what we expect from him whilst he remains contracted.

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Tony Clifton on March 22, 2017, 06:51:56 AM
We don't need to even discuss his contract as he has two and a half years left to run on the current deal so The board should be saying there will be no contract talks until this time next year, end of story.

If only it were so simple.  The situation we have here is just as much about Lukaku's current team-mates, squad members, management, potential signings etc. as it is about Lukaku.  The apple cart and beyond.  Careful with that axe.  ;)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on March 22, 2017, 06:52:30 AM
We don't need to even discuss his contract as he has two and a half years left to run on the current deal so The board should be saying there will be no contract talks until this time next year, end of story.


In an ideal world that would be nice, but it's just not that simple is it.

Leaving him to just 12 months left on his deal leaves us wide open to either having to sell him for a knockdown price or worse no one meeting our valuation and him leaving on a free. I know us as Everton fans don't really give a shit about that, but unfortunately it is a business.
Another good thing about trying to sort all this out is that we should know by the start of next season where we all stand. Koeman has already said that anyone who won't sign and has 12 months left will be sold, so it gives him basically 12 months to prepare.

All we are trying to do right now is reward Rom for his hard work (which he deserves), by doing that we also protect our asset for a little bit longer which gives us more bargaining power when the inevitable does happen and he decides to leave.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ramjam on March 22, 2017, 09:56:47 AM
If only it were so simple.  The situation we have here is just as much about Lukaku's current team-mates, squad members, management, potential signings etc. as it is about Lukaku.  The apple cart and beyond.  Careful with that axe.  ;)

There's no axe Tony, we want the big man to stay but he can't be allowed to dictate the terms nor bully the club, we as Everton are far bigger than he will ever be, My point is he agreed his current contract as we did all in good faith so while he gets paid in accordance with that contract/agreement there shouldn't be a problem. Only if the club wants to sell him within that time frame and all party's agree then there's no deal.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 24, 2017, 12:20:29 AM
Roberto has spoken

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39370381
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Robioto on March 24, 2017, 12:24:58 AM
Roberto has spoken

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39370381

To be the best number 9 in the world he will need to perform on the international stage.

Time to step down again Roberto... He isn't doing that with you in charge.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: arteta4spain on March 24, 2017, 12:31:54 AM
He's taken two pot shots at us in two days. Tielemans and now this with Rom.
Get over it you dickhead you were shit and got fired. Stop trying to belittle the club you just emphasise what you are, and that's small time!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 24, 2017, 12:35:07 AM
He's taken two pot shots at us in two days. Tielemans and now this with Rom.
Get over it you dickhead you were shit and got fired. Stop trying to belittle the club you just emphasise what you are, and that's small time!

What he say about Tielemans?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: arteta4spain on March 24, 2017, 12:39:57 AM
What he say about Tielemans?
Think he said yesterday that a move, which implied us, wouldn't be best and should stay. He didn't mention us specifically but you know that's what he was on about.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 24, 2017, 12:46:50 AM
Think he said yesterday that a move, which implied us, wouldn't be best and should stay. He didn't mention us specifically but you know that's what he was on about.

Think you give him too much credit. Roberto Martinez doesn't know what Roberto Martinez is on about never mind the rest of us knowing. It's just white noise and a pretence he's saying something important.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Paddockoldie on March 24, 2017, 01:01:37 AM
He's just a bitter cunt...
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 24, 2017, 01:55:46 AM
How he's still involved in top flight football is a mystery to me. 

He must have said he'll do the job for peanuts and was the cheapest option, being as we'd just put 10 million big ones in his bank account.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Shogun on March 24, 2017, 02:01:01 AM
Reading too much into that
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on March 24, 2017, 02:23:39 AM
Sooner that cunt stops being quoted the better, he's a fukin stain....
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blue slug on March 24, 2017, 03:29:37 AM
I watched his interview on sky sports news earlier and he really does make no sense, talks absolute bollocks
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Good_Eye_Sniper on March 24, 2017, 05:03:43 AM
That clip from the BBC  :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

I just can't stand to hear him talk. I don't think I've ever turned around so much in my opinions about anyone in football. I remember after that first season with us when he sat down with fan groups I listened to him outlining his vision for an hour. I listen to some of our old managers and don't have this issue. I'd think that Moyes would annoy me more for the fact that he walked away from us at the time, but he still seems like a decent enough guy, and I don't think the shit show at Sunderland is all his fault. Martinez though, it's like nails on a chalkboard. I suppose listening to him chat utter shite in interviews for 2 years will do that to a person.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: arteta4spain on March 24, 2017, 11:07:46 PM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/10812576/romelu-lukaku-reaffirms-decision-has-been-made-not-to-sign-new-everton-contract

Doesn't look good tbh he'd be 26 when  we hopefully move into Bramley Moore. That's too long a time frame for him to want to stay. He's off otherwise he'd have signed. Unless he's being a cocktease.
Got a feeling we've not got the spending that we think we have. But who knows he wants champ league and we can't give it to him. We'll get top whack for him tho. If he goes he goes we move on and get some decent players in. 
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ridge on March 24, 2017, 11:21:35 PM
What did he say in the interview that has upset you lot so much?  lolol
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 24, 2017, 11:27:09 PM
He winks when he says the decision is done....surely he wouldnt look so happy if he was leaving would he?? :(
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: nwatson on March 25, 2017, 12:03:58 AM
feck i must be over optimistic or something but the first thing i thought when i read that was, the decision has been made to sign a new contract (but not the 1 that was currently on the table) and its perfectly fine for him to talk about his ambitions.
he may well move on without signing but its going to be for a massive fee.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 25, 2017, 12:12:07 AM
Good Christ, this is killing me.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on March 25, 2017, 12:15:25 AM
This is 50/50 for me - not a clue if he'll stay or go.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blue1948 on March 25, 2017, 12:31:50 AM
There is so much reported that it makes your head spin ,in one paper he says/does one thing and in another the opposite .I love the technology of today most of the time but with the football news it is a load of bollocks
Too many going for hits with trumped up stories and not enough fact and even worse when we don't have a game .There should be a ban on transfer news outside of the window
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 25, 2017, 12:37:48 AM
He's off in the summer
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Chris-EFC on March 25, 2017, 12:38:53 AM
"I've made a long way until now but the road is still long and I know I have to improve and get better. I want to help Everton as much as I can, as well as the national team. I think a lot of stuff can be achieved."

This is the rest of the quote on Sky Sports. Doesn't sound like he's off to me if he thinks that.

   
   
   
   
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: sam of the south on March 25, 2017, 01:02:25 AM
He winks when he says the decision is done....surely he wouldnt look so happy if he was leaving would he?? :(

Yeah, that would just be a bit cruel wouldn't it 🤔
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Brownie20 on March 25, 2017, 01:45:01 AM
Yeah, that would just be a bit cruel wouldn't it 🤔

It's a wink to all those who called him lazy. He's saying 'fuck you ya plebs. I'm off. Watch how you'll do without me!'

Or

"I'll sign after we smash those red shirt, half and half scarf waving bastards next week'
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Running Blue on March 25, 2017, 01:54:41 AM
He winks when he says the decision is done....surely he wouldnt look so happy if he was leaving would he?? :(

Was it definitely a wink?  It looked a bit like a nervous tick.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 25, 2017, 01:56:38 AM
Was it definitely a wink?  It looked a bit like a nervous tick.

Nervous about giving the game away that he's signing a new deal nod
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on March 25, 2017, 02:57:12 AM
Wasn't sure if the video had already been posted or not

https://twitter.com/waynethompson73/status/845308766031622144
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on March 25, 2017, 03:27:33 AM
Not a wink
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on March 25, 2017, 04:11:21 AM
Going
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: brap2 on March 25, 2017, 05:59:37 AM
100% wink but I think going and back to Chelsea.

Pya guesswork
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on March 25, 2017, 06:29:21 AM
Not a wink. Nervous twitch. Not staying lads.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on March 25, 2017, 07:16:49 AM
Bet he's fucking brilliant at poker.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 25, 2017, 07:20:13 AM
Chelsea can fuck off unless it's 50m plus Batshuayi (at minimum)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 25, 2017, 01:05:21 PM
Not sure if it's a wink or a twitch, but he definitely wants out. I still wouldn't sell him til next summer.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: TheRam on March 25, 2017, 01:43:54 PM
That's a wink imo.

Although can see why people would think it's a nervous tick.

It's a close one but wink edges it.

International week aye
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueBeagle on March 25, 2017, 01:47:04 PM
Chelsea can fuck off unless it's 50m plus Batshuayi (at minimum)

Sooner have more money over someone who's absolutely bombed
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Fynci on March 25, 2017, 02:40:13 PM
We need a poll, wink or twitch. I'm going with the latter.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Fynci on March 25, 2017, 02:41:39 PM
International week aye

Wink, twitch, or International weak eye
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on March 25, 2017, 04:39:10 PM
Unless he winks with both eyes I'm not sure where people are coming from here
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 25, 2017, 05:11:30 PM
Sooner have more money over someone who's absolutely bombed

Rom had absolutely bombed at Chelsea too...
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on March 25, 2017, 05:30:34 PM
Peep Show - Can't retract the wink... Unless...:
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on March 25, 2017, 05:33:31 PM
A nod's as good as a wink to a blind man.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bally on March 25, 2017, 05:34:11 PM
He's playing the media like a fucking fiddle it's the words before it that count, he says people need to stop taking his words out of context then gives the answer and the wink/twitch.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueBeagle on March 25, 2017, 05:35:57 PM
Rom had absolutely bombed at Chelsea too...

No he didn't at all, he was a 17 year old kid who then went on loan a year later, did great, went on loan again, did even better, went back to Chelsea for about 5 minutes and they dropped a bollock by selling him

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ross on March 25, 2017, 05:36:37 PM
Unless he winks with both eyes I'm not sure where people are coming from here

My mates kid does that thinking he's winking.

It was cute at first but he's got his GCSE's this summer.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: pjk on March 25, 2017, 05:41:01 PM
One thing is for sure. We need a top class replacement this coming summer to get the new man settled in. There's no point in trusting to luck or Mino Raiola.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Paddockoldie on March 25, 2017, 05:41:24 PM
Nah, that's not a wink. If I was on the pull and a woman did that I'd swerve her thinking she has something goin on... deffo  not a wink lads
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: chang on March 25, 2017, 05:41:30 PM
Not sure if it's a wink or a twitch, but he definitely wants out. I still wouldn't sell him til next summer.

I can understand this - but if he wants to leave, wouldn't it make sense for the development of the team to let him go and start the rebuild immediately rather than have a player in the team who wants out?

For what  it's worth I think he will stay, but my logic is based solely on that is what I would like to happen!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 25, 2017, 05:42:43 PM
No he didn't at all, he was a 17 year old kid who then went on loan a year later, did great, went on loan again, did even better, went back to Chelsea for about 5 minutes and they dropped a bollock by selling him



My comment was tongue in cheek of course, but Batshuayi hasn't had much of a look in really, has he? Just 16 appearances I believe for Chelsea, similar to the number Rom had.

Maybe he needs to go out on loan, it might work for him too. He was prolific before moving to Chelsea after all.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 25, 2017, 05:51:20 PM
I can understand this - but if he wants to leave, wouldn't it make sense from the development of the team to let him go and start the rebuild immediately rather than have a player in the team who wants out?

For what  it's worth I think he will stay, but my logic is based solely on that is what I would like to happen!

Yeah there's lots of different views on it. Some will say 'don't keep an unhappy player' and that is a perfectly logical and justifiable position to take. I think there's been a number of examples of people who have stayed an extra year when they wanted out, and had excellent seasons. Also next year is a World Cup year, so there's absolutely no chance that he will down tools.

On the other hand, for all I know we might've begged him for an extra year last summer, and promised him verbally that he can go this summer if the price is met by a club. If that was the case, then we probably do need to sell him.

But personally, I think the prospect of another season of Rom with top quality signings is worth more to us than the monetary value that we would lose by keeping him, and letting his contract run down another year. For example, say he's roughly worth £80m now. And say we could maybe get only £40m for him next summer, that's obviously a potential £40m loss. If keeping Rom for next season made the difference to us making the Champions League, then most, if not all, of that money would immediately be made back.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: sam of the south on March 25, 2017, 07:09:48 PM
Yeah there's lots of different views on it. Some will say 'don't keep an unhappy player' and that is a perfectly logical and justifiable position to take. I think there's been a number of examples of people who have stayed an extra year when they wanted out, and had excellent seasons. Also next year is a World Cup year, so there's absolutely no chance that he will down tools.

On the other hand, for all I know we might've begged him for an extra year last summer, and promised him verbally that he can go this summer if the price is met by a club. If that was the case, then we probably do need to sell him.

But personally, I think the prospect of another season of Rom with top quality signings is worth more to us than the monetary value that we would lose by keeping him, and letting his contract run down another year. For example, say he's roughly worth £80m now. And say we could maybe get only £40m for him next summer, that's obviously a potential £40m loss. If keeping Rom for next season made the difference to us making the Champions League, then most, if not all, of that money would immediately be made back.

And if we made the CL he *might, might want to stay



*might as in probably not, really
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 25, 2017, 07:44:35 PM
My comment was tongue in cheek of course, but Batshuayi hasn't had much of a look in really, has he? Just 16 appearances I believe for Chelsea, similar to the number Rom had.

Maybe he needs to go out on loan, it might work for him too. He was prolific before moving to Chelsea after all.

I've seen enough from Batshuayi internationally that I want him.  And the only reason Chelsea might not deal him is they like to hoard EVERYBODY.  Well, too fucking bad.  We hold the cards here.

Young players get lost in the shuffle places like that all the time.  Doesn't mean much.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: bacon sarnie on March 25, 2017, 08:07:46 PM
Has he gone yet? Not in the mood for this shite after what's happened to Seamus Coleman.


Fucksakes.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Zoolander on March 25, 2017, 08:12:59 PM
A decision has already been made.
Probably a decision to not sign the current contract and too see if we improve it sufficiently or a CL club come calling - that kind of decision I expect.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: sam of the south on March 25, 2017, 08:18:39 PM
Has he gone yet? Not in the mood for this shite after what's happened to Seamus Coleman.


Fucksakes.

Agreed.

I'm depressed and just venting here, and I'll probably get lambasted, but Seamus' situation, a tragic injury to a guy who was strongly courted by Man United on more than one occasion but never even made a murmur about wanting to leave or 'ambition', makes me care even less about a slightly spoilt footballer who always drones on about his ambition to anyone that wants to listen.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 26, 2017, 12:18:47 AM
Agreed.

I'm depressed and just venting here, and I'll probably get lambasted, but Seamus' situation, a tragic injury to a guy who was strongly courted by Man United on more than one occasion but never even made a murmur about wanting to leave or 'ambition', makes me care even less about a slightly spoilt footballer who always drones on about his ambition to anyone that wants to listen.

This.

Lukaku, great player and all that but slightly bored of it all now. If you're going go, if you're staying stay. We'd all like to crack on if it's alright with you.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on March 26, 2017, 12:56:58 AM
Hang on lads, he doesn't get to pick what he is asked.

His contract and meetings about it are all confidential between him and the club so he's not allowed to say much more than he has.

Get some perspective
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ramjam on March 26, 2017, 03:14:55 AM
This.

Lukaku, great player and all that but slightly bored of it all now. If you're going go, if you're staying stay. We'd all like to crack on if it's alright with you.

Agreed, I think it's been done to death now, everyone needs to move on now, whatever will be will be.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 26, 2017, 05:21:13 AM
Few whispers that he might be signing. WRD1878 seems to think he will and so does The Esk.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Brownie20 on March 26, 2017, 05:25:29 AM
Few whispers that he might be signing. WRD1878 seems to think he will and so does The Esk.

If the Esk says it he's gone
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Silas on March 26, 2017, 05:26:24 AM
Few whispers that he might be signing. WRD1878 seems to think he will and so does The Esk.

He's playing in the Derby against us then
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 26, 2017, 05:29:20 AM
If the Esk says it he's gone

Yeah, that line gets trotted out everytime the Esk gets a mention. I know I'm in a shrinking minority but I think he knows things, as I've said before, but he is defo an attention seeker as well. The WRD1878 fella is quite reputable according to Jimmywhack.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Brownie20 on March 26, 2017, 05:30:38 AM
Yeah, that line gets trotted out everytime the Esk gets a mention. I know I'm in a shrinking minority but I think he knows things, as I've said before, but he is defo an attention seeker as well. The WRD1878 fella is quite reputable according to Jimmywhack.

I know mate. I just wanted to say it once. I think he'll sign
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 26, 2017, 05:31:55 AM
He's playing in the Derby against us then

Withering ;)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Cozzie on March 26, 2017, 05:42:07 AM
Yeah, that line gets trotted out everytime the Esk gets a mention. I know I'm in a shrinking minority but I think he knows things, as I've said before, but he is defo an attention seeker as well. The WRD1878 fella is quite reputable according to Jimmywhack.

Is that WRD fella the one from TEF?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 26, 2017, 05:42:46 AM
Is that WRD fella the one from TEF?

Aye
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Goaljira on March 26, 2017, 05:43:57 AM
Few whispers that he might be signing. WRD1878 seems to think he will and so does The Esk.
"Rom is ours"
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: sam of the south on March 26, 2017, 06:02:51 AM
Few whispers that he might be signing. WRD1878 seems to think he will and so does The Esk.

Oh my, I bloody hope he does sign, the beautiful, big-mouthed goal-machine!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ross on March 26, 2017, 06:09:48 AM
Which one used to say "confirmed by two sources" like he's was some sort of BBC journalist instead of some desperate attention seeking whore?

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Everton Mint on March 26, 2017, 06:09:52 AM
Cracking equaliser for Belgium tonight in the last minute.  Rom is at his best at the moment.

If he ends up going it could be a mahoosive fee..
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: brap2 on March 26, 2017, 06:41:00 AM
Yeah, that line gets trotted out everytime the Esk gets a mention. I know I'm in a shrinking minority but I think he knows things, as I've said before, but he is defo an attention seeker as well. The WRD1878 fella is quite reputable according to Jimmywhack.

Yeah he does seem to have something of a line to info, and his writing on Everton gets retweeted a lot.

Wasn't he in the echo at one point?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 26, 2017, 06:45:52 AM
Cracking equaliser for Belgium tonight in the last minute.  Rom is at his best at the moment.

If he ends up going it could be a mahoosive fee..

I don't understand people who don't think he's one of the best handful of players in the world.  He is NOW.  No longer just the potential to be.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Tinga on March 26, 2017, 07:17:50 AM
Few whispers that he might be signing. WRD1878 seems to think he will and so does The Esk.

Nice. I enjoyed watching Mata play this season, he's done really well for us.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 26, 2017, 07:22:19 AM
Yeah he does seem to have something of a line to info, and his writing on Everton gets retweeted a lot.

Wasn't he in the echo at one point?

Yeah he was on the Echo's weekly podcast last week, and he's started appearing on and writing for the Blue Room. Whether that means he's credible or not who knows, but they seem to have conferred a certain amount of legitimacy on him.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 26, 2017, 07:23:02 AM
Nice. I enjoyed watching Mata play this season, he's done really well for us.

I think Witsel's probably had the bigger impact out of the two.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 26, 2017, 07:41:07 AM
I think Witsel's probably had the bigger impact out of the two.

Really? I've found he's been quite invisible for us.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 26, 2017, 07:52:20 AM
Think we need to go all Trumpy on him. Sign by 3.30pm or it's all off.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Buck76 on March 26, 2017, 08:05:53 AM
I've seen enough from Batshuayi internationally that I want him.  And the only reason Chelsea might not deal him is they like to hoard EVERYBODY.  Well, too fucking bad.  We hold the cards here.

Young players get lost in the shuffle places like that all the time.  Doesn't mean much.

If Rom forces the move I'd take the £60m plus Batshuayi.... but sneaking 4th would be better...
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Major Clanger on March 26, 2017, 08:25:28 AM
Is that WRD fella the one from TEF?

No, that's JFX.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: brap2 on March 26, 2017, 08:47:27 AM
I think Witsel's probably had the bigger impact out of the two.

The witsel thing was bad but it wouldn't be the first time witsel has done a u turn late in the day.

In fact I think he decided to stay in Russia, then decided to go to china, then decided to go to a different club in china, all in those closing days of the window.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on March 26, 2017, 11:09:18 AM
Think the likes of Mata and Witsel are the players Rom feels we missed out on and why he felt the board didn't show ambition.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 26, 2017, 04:23:19 PM
Few whispers that he might be signing. WRD1878 seems to think he will and so does The Esk.

50/50 chance of being right then. Makes a change from the other ITK stuff he spouts which ends up being rubbish.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ross on March 29, 2017, 05:55:46 PM
Strange interview from Bolasie in the echo under the guise of a Road to Recovery article.

Wonder who's set this up?

Quote
Yannick Bolasie says contract rebel Romelu Lukaku “has his plan” - and that “you can’t really stop that”.

Lukaku has turned down the offer of a new lucrative deal at Everton and wants to leave for a club in the Champions League.

Bolasie, recovering from double knee surgery, is close to the Belgium international and has suggested Everton may find it hard to change their top scorer’s mind.

“You can’t really stop that.


Yannick Bolasie and Romelu Lukaku chat during the game
“Players have ambition, as players they want to play in the highest team possible and Rom for me right now, at his age, is a world class striker and there aren’t many about like him.

“I’m not surprised but I’m sure that Everton are going to find a way to deal with it.”

But the 27-year-old is confident he will be back playing again before the end of the year.

Where next?
“I am seeing the light now and I’m in a good place,” Bolasie added.

“With the rehab, I can’t put an actual time schedule down but I’m pretty confident I will be back before the end of 2017, that’s for sure.”

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-team-mate-romelu-lukaku-12812772
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 29, 2017, 05:58:09 PM
Strange interview from Bolasie in the echo under the guise of a Road to Recovery article.

Wonder who's set this up?

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-team-mate-romelu-lukaku-12812772
SSN have been playing that all morning. Doesn't really sound good!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 29, 2017, 06:33:59 PM
People need to stop harbouring these false hopes brought on by perceived 'winks' and misread comments.

It couldn't have been made any more clear by all involved. He's wants to leave Everton, play Champions League football and win trophies. Let's just deal with reality and attempt to move on from the subject.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on March 29, 2017, 06:38:39 PM
People need to stop harbouring these false hopes brought on by perceived 'winks' and misread comments.

It couldn't have been made any more clear by all involved. He's wants to leave Everton, play Champions League football and win trophies. Let's just deal with reality and attempt to move on from the subject.

I'd say it's 99.999% certain that he is going, for the reasons stated above.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lazarou on March 29, 2017, 06:54:29 PM
I will miss his goals, but not the constant uncertainty and his Belgium interviews. I feel strangely relieved that Yannick has all but confirmed it. Obviously we will need a replacement in the summer, is there anything more exciting in the transfer window than the purchase of a big money striker! Would love DCL to make his mark as well in the first team, as much as he appears to have done in training.

Onward and upward!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 29, 2017, 06:57:05 PM
There's little chance we'll replace him. We'll have to go for two or three new front players who can score but do other things too. Will be similar when we sold Lineker.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 29, 2017, 07:00:27 PM
Not gonna lie, I'll be devastated when he leaves, will be up there with how I felt when Rooney left.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lazarou on March 29, 2017, 07:04:01 PM
There's little chance we'll replace him. We'll have to go for two or three new front players who can score but do other things too. Will be similar when we sold Lineker.

That's true, I think we rely too much on him anyway. The next best in the league is Barkley on 4 goals. It looks great and I do take some pride in us having the leagues top scorer but it may help us in the long run.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 29, 2017, 07:05:06 PM
When Bolasie says Rom 'has got his plan' and 'you can't really stop that', well he's sort of under contract for 2 more years Yannick mate, so you kinda can stop it. Thanks for chipping in with your twopenneth though. Crack on with your recovery and pipe the fuck down.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 29, 2017, 07:05:53 PM
When Bolasie says Rom 'has got his plan' and 'you can't really stop that', well he's sort of under contract for 2 more years Yannick mate, so you kinda can stop it. Thanks for chipping in with your twopenneth though. Crack on with your recovery and pipe the fuck down.

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Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 29, 2017, 07:09:59 PM
When Bolasie says Rom 'has got his plan' and 'you can't really stop that', well he's sort of under contract for 2 more years Yannick mate, so you kinda can stop it. Thanks for chipping in with your twopenneth though. Crack on with your recovery and pipe the fuck down.

Ron tends to think it's ultimately down to the player himself, and he is right. I will be extremely surprised if he is with us come the next season. Even more surprised if he has an additional 5 years on his contract.

But I would be very happy.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lazarou on March 29, 2017, 07:11:39 PM
When Bolasie says Rom 'has got his plan' and 'you can't really stop that', well he's sort of under contract for 2 more years Yannick mate, so you kinda can stop it. Thanks for chipping in with your twopenneth though. Crack on with your recovery and pipe the fuck down.

Why did he feel it was necessary to mention this before the derby? We are not going to the match in the best shape physically or mentally are we?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ross on March 29, 2017, 07:14:13 PM
To be honest here fellas there's only one person who knows what's going on and how this will play out and it isn't Yannik Bolasie is it.




What's the Esk saying?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 29, 2017, 07:14:22 PM
Why did he feel it was necessary to mention this before the derby? We are not going to the match in the best shape physically or mentally are we?

Who knows, but it's ill judged to say the least.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 29, 2017, 07:16:27 PM
To be honest here fellas there's only one person who knows what's going on and how this will play out and it isn't Yannik Bolasie is it.




What's the Esk saying?

He's saying his sources tell him that he's still under contract and there's a slim chance he could either leave or stay. Sounds legit.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 29, 2017, 07:16:37 PM
Ron tends to think it's ultimately down to the player himself, and he is right.

It's definitely down to the player whether he signs a new contract. It's not down to the player whether he leaves before the end of his existing one. He can mouth off all he wants. The club will decide.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: TSGun on March 29, 2017, 07:17:38 PM
...coincidentally I've just been reading about the proper usage of the adjective 'Orwellian'.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 29, 2017, 07:18:01 PM
It's definitely down to the player whether he signs a new contract. It's not down to the player whether he leaves before the end of his existing one. He can mouth off all he wants. The club will decide.

Legally speaking, yes. In reality, you know the player holds the cards. I hope we can keep him, but I'm thinking he'll be gone come the summer.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 29, 2017, 07:21:16 PM
Legally speaking, yes. In reality, you know the player holds the cards. I hope we can keep him, but I'm thinking he'll be gone come the summer.

Mate, Stones stayed an extra year because the club decided it was better for them, and he was crying in service stations. Suarez wanted out, and went on to have an excellent season the year after. Berahino wanted out, and they just kept him and did what they wanted. The player doesn't hold all the cards, at all. Especially when the club is in such a strong position financially. If it'd been 20 years ago when Bill was begging for an extra fiver off the banks, I'd agree with you, but it's just not the case anymore.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on March 29, 2017, 07:26:32 PM
We've already had the extra year, that was this year that Ron persuaded him to stay. Don't buy the argument that because we are financially stronger we would let him run his contract down and write off 60/70 million, we are financially strong because we have an investor who became financially strong by making good business decisions.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Toddacelli on March 29, 2017, 07:28:36 PM
Offer him whatever he wants plus naming rights for the new stadium as long as we can keep him and sell his dad for medical research.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lazarou on March 29, 2017, 07:30:10 PM
Mate, Stones stayed an extra year because the club decided it was better for them, and he was crying in service stations. Suarez wanted out, and went on to have an excellent season the year after. Berahino wanted out, and they just kept him and did what they wanted. The player doesn't hold all the cards, at all. Especially when the club is in such a strong position financially. If it'd been 20 years ago when Bill was begging for an extra fiver off the banks, I'd agree with you, but it's just not the case anymore.

I suppose it is not out the realms of possibility that he stays another year and we do well that he then decides he wants in. I would hate for him to be effectively forced to stay and he just becomes a dead weight around our necks or downs tools like he did last year. It's a tricky one, the difference these days is that we have some financial muscle which gives us more options.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 29, 2017, 07:31:22 PM
The decision will be Ron's, not Lukaku's or the boards. If Koeman thinks he'd be able to achieve his aims next season with Lukaku on board he'll stay. If he backs himself to improve the team with the money generated from his sale he'll go. He's the most important person in this scenario, not Lukaku or his agent or even Moshiri really.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on March 29, 2017, 07:31:44 PM
Bollasie has tweeted that they left out the "I'm sure the club will be able to sort something" type quote off the end of his sentence.

So, in a move that will shock noone, the media have twisted a "he'll go if he wants but i reckon it'll all get sorted" inbto "he'll go if he wants"
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 29, 2017, 07:34:13 PM
Mate, Stones stayed an extra year because the club decided it was better for them, and he was crying in service stations. Suarez wanted out, and went on to have an excellent season the year after. Berahino wanted out, and they just kept him and did what they wanted. The player doesn't hold all the cards, at all. Especially when the club is in such a strong position financially. If it'd been 20 years ago when Bill was begging for an extra fiver off the banks, I'd agree with you, but it's just not the case anymore.

I hope you're right, but wasn't this the extra year?

I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 29, 2017, 07:34:37 PM
I suppose it is not out the realms of possibility that he stays another year and we do well that he then decides he wants in. I would hate for him to be effectively forced to stay and he just becomes a dead weight around our necks or downs tools like he did last year. It's a tricky one, the difference these days is that we have some financial muscle which gives us more options.

World Cup year next year though, so I just don't see him downing tools and becoming a dead weight. I do think he has some affection for the fans and some friendships at the club. He might have a mini-strop at first, but he'd soon get his head down and start banging them in (imo), especially if he's surrounded by a few big players we've bought in the summer.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 29, 2017, 07:44:02 PM
World Cup year next year though, so I just don't see him downing tools and becoming a dead weight. I do think he has some affection for the fans and some friendships at the club. He might have a mini-strop at first, but he'd soon get his head down and start banging them in (imo), especially if he's surrounded by a few big players we've bought in the summer.

That is true about him, he is ultra professional in many ways and I think he definitely loves the fans, especially after the last goal he scored.

As for world cup year, I think he'd still be going even if he scored 30 own goals next season given who his national manager is :)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 29, 2017, 07:47:32 PM
This is me even after he says he will prob leave

(http://www.theloop.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/chance-1.gif)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: phillyt on March 29, 2017, 07:50:55 PM
How does brexit effect roms situation re a bosman transfer. Seen as we will be out of the EU when his contract runs out does he still have the right to walk away or do we theoretically not have to abide by that rule then.

Now I'm not suggesting that it's a sensible or viable way to keep him here but is there a possibility it will become a bargaining chip in negotiations.?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 29, 2017, 08:10:19 PM
That is true about him, he is ultra professional in many ways and I think he definitely loves the fans, especially after the last goal he scored.

As for world cup year, I think he'd still be going even if he scored 30 own goals next season given who his national manager is :)

and of course (as odd as it may sound), had he not downed tools alongside his teammates last season, it would have come off as a remarkably selfish act...

I don't think he will ever sandbag the team.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Major Clanger on March 29, 2017, 08:15:34 PM
How does brexit effect roms situation re a bosman transfer. Seen as we will be out of the EU when his contract runs out does he still have the right to walk away or do we theoretically not have to abide by that rule then.

Now I'm not suggesting that it's a sensible or viable way to keep him here but is there a possibility it will become a bargaining chip in negotiations.?

I can't see a legal way for it to affect contracts that were signed when the Bosman-ruling was in effect.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on March 29, 2017, 08:25:43 PM
I can't see a legal way for it to affect contracts that were signed when the Bosman-ruling was in effect.

but the Bosman ruling pertains to what happens when a contract ends doesnt it?

Prior to it, when your contract ended your registration remained with the club that bought it.
I don't know if the Bosman ruling was applied or adopted to UK law. But if it was only adopted then there is something to be looked at. (Not with Lukaku, the Bosman ruling was common sense and should be adhered to).

I would expect the rights of the registration of a player is now hard-coded into the FA rules themselves anyway, so it wont be an issue.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 29, 2017, 08:34:30 PM
It's likely that all current laws will be rolled over and then repealed (or not) over a long time.

I doubt reversing the Bosman ruling as top of the list, although you never know :)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Major Clanger on March 29, 2017, 08:51:36 PM
I don't know if the Bosman ruling was applied or adopted to UK law. But if it was only adopted then there is something to be looked at. (Not with Lukaku, the Bosman ruling was common sense and should be adhered to).

As a rule, all EU legislation was implicitly and continuously adopted into UK law by virtue of the European Communities Act 1972. This is planned to be replaced by "The Great Repeal Act" (not its official name :)), which will repeal said Act and replace it with a statement that all EU laws up to this point are explicitly adopted into UK law with the exceptions and amendments listed below...and here comes a list of possibly several thousand clauses.

Despite all of that, the act will not seek to change the substance of any pre-existing legislation, the exception list is all about untangling the institutions. (So that for example the ultimate arbiter of internal fishing quota disputes in the UK won't be the European Fisheries Agency any more.)

By the nature of things this new act can't come into force until the UK formally leaves the EU, any change in substance to the legislation is therefore a very long way down the line. (In theory it would be possible to pre-load amendments and repeals with delayed assent, but given that Parliament is likely to fail to pass even the minimum amount of legislation for an orderly retreat, any effort to legislate for the future will be the first to be axed.)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on March 29, 2017, 09:16:16 PM
Fuck Brexit.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 29, 2017, 09:21:25 PM
Fuck Brexit.

and similarly, fuck the American Fuhrer.  Thanks (in advance) for finally stopping the madness, France!!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 29, 2017, 11:05:44 PM
I agree with this:

http://sportwitness.co.uk/increasing-understanding-everton-transfer-strength-potential-business-now-put-e75m/

Quote
The coverage of Romelu Lukaku’s situation at Everton doesn’t change much from country to country. Everyone knows he could be leaving the club, but it’s too early to say who he could be joining. Italian newspaper Tuttosport has an article about the striker today, mostly saying that next weekend’s game against Liverpool should be the player’s last derby with the club.

It’s claimed that Everton demanded €75m last summer, but considering the 21 Premier League goals he’s scored this season, this price should be raised in the next transfer window. Agent Mino Raiola’s preference would be to keep the player in the Premier League, according to Tuttosport, with Chelsea and Manchester United as the main options. But there obstacles in the way of both potential deals.

There’s nothing hugely new from Tuttosport, but it’s increasingly clear that the top clubs around Europe know Everton won’t be easy to deal with over a Lukaku transfer.

Everton aren’t desperate for the money and Lukaku has a contract until June 2019. if the striker leaves, it will be on Everton’s terms.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 29, 2017, 11:14:53 PM
Not gonna lie, I'll be devastated when he leaves, will be up there with how I felt when Rooney left.

More upset with rooney. Think we always knew this moment would come with lukaku where we thought rooney might stick around being a local lad

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 29, 2017, 11:15:37 PM
I agree with this:

http://sportwitness.co.uk/increasing-understanding-everton-transfer-strength-potential-business-now-put-e75m/


Chelsea must offer Batshuayi and a on of cash.  United have nothing we want.  Maybe Rashford, but they won't move him.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 29, 2017, 11:20:20 PM
I'm far from convinced on Batshuayi.

Hardly features for Chelsea, even when Costa isn't there, isn't a regular starter for Belgium (although Wilmots was useless and Martinez...) and wasn't a regular starter at Marseille.

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 29, 2017, 11:23:30 PM
I'm far from convinced on Batshuayi.

Hardly features for Chelsea, even when Costa isn't there, isn't a regular starter for Belgium (although Wilmots was useless and Martinez...) and wasn't a regular starter at Marseille.



same, no idea where these shouts are coming from tbh
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Toddacelli on March 29, 2017, 11:33:12 PM
Someone on here put a decent case forward for him recently.

Don't think @Bally (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=19) would want him tho - coz all the bad spellers on here would just call him 'Batshit' or 'Batman' or something like that...   :)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 30, 2017, 12:55:37 AM
He was a decent prospect before he went to Chelsea. Nowhere near a£33m one mind but he's not abad player at all. A bit raw but something to work with.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 30, 2017, 01:00:57 AM
He was a decent prospect before he went to Chelsea. Nowhere near a£33m one mind but he's not abad player at all. A bit raw but something to work with.

Yeah but they're likely to still value him at £30m.

A bit raw etc. is ok if the player is cheap.

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 30, 2017, 01:07:34 AM
Yeah but they're likely to still value him at £30m.

A bit raw etc. is ok if the player is cheap.



I know. They'll never get back what they paid for him so the only way they can accept a loss is if they get a player they want as part of the exchange package.

We have something they want so we hold the cards. If we value him at sub£20m as part of any deal it might be the only way they can move him on.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 30, 2017, 01:12:05 AM
I know. They'll never get back what they paid for him so the only way they can accept a loss is if they get a player they want as part of the exchange package.

We have something they want so we hold the cards. If we value him at sub£20m as part of any deal it might be the only way they can move him on.

Think theyd rather just loan him out somewhere.

And that's if we're interested of course :)

I seem to have noticed him mentioned quite a lot as though there's a great option there.

Whereas in reality he'd probably be over valued by them and reduce our cash in hand to spend on whatever else when seemingly the last 3/4 managers that he's had haven't trusted him to start games.

Now if Rom was linked with City and people were talking about Agüero... ;)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 30, 2017, 01:16:28 AM
Think theyd rather just loan him out somewhere.

And that's if we're interested of course :)

I seem to have noticed him mentioned quite a lot as though there's a great option there.

Whereas in reality he'd probably be over valued by them and reduce our cash in hand to spend on whatever else when seemingly the last 3/4 managers that he's had haven't trusted him to start games.

Now if Rom was linked with City and people were talking about Agüero... ;)
There lies the rub. We're still Everton, the 7th best team in England and nowhere near any top flight european football and silverware for a long time.

We're not in a position to replace quality with quality. We'll have to be creative to rebuild after Lukaku.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on March 30, 2017, 01:18:30 AM
There lies the rub. We're still Everton, the 7th best team in England and nowhere near any top flight european football and silverware for a long time.

We're not in a position to replace quality with quality. We'll have to be creative to rebuild after Lukaku.

Yeah I agree on that being the likely scenario.

Just don't think Batshuayi fits into either cheap potential or relatively guaranteed goals for a more expensive but not as exciting option.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: hill135 on March 30, 2017, 01:19:51 AM
I think he looks a good young player. Scored a shitload for Marseille and his goals per minutes ratio this season can't be too bad.

Think it's worth bearing in mind Conte has very specific requirements and barely rotates his lineup and established players have had their noses put of joint because of it.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 30, 2017, 01:27:46 AM
Yeah I agree on that being the likely scenario.

Just don't think Batshuayi fits into either cheap potential or relatively guaranteed goals for a more expensive but not as exciting option.

I think Batshuayi was more an example of the type of player we'll be going for rather than anyone pinpointing him as the direct replacement.

We're in the market for a £20m-£30m replacement, maybe two, to fill Lukaku's boots and share the scoring burden on his departure and he's the profile of player to maybe be one of them.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 30, 2017, 02:01:16 AM
I think Batshuayi was more an example of the type of player we'll be going for rather than anyone pinpointing him as the direct replacement.

We're in the market for a £20m-£30m replacement, maybe two, to fill Lukaku's boots and share the scoring burden on his departure and he's the profile of player to maybe be one of them.

Precisely.  He can be 1 of 2 options in the short-term, with the chance to grow into more than that.  And I want a striker in hand, rather than losing Rom and having to start looking for two from a completely empty hand...
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Toddacelli on March 30, 2017, 02:02:12 AM
Precisely.  He can be 1 of 2 options in the short-term, with the chance to grow into more than that.  And I want a striker in hand, rather than losing Rom and having to start looking for two from a completely empty hand...

How many in the bush is a bat in the hand worth?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 30, 2017, 02:23:36 AM
Chelsea must offer Batshuayi and a on of cash.  United have nothing we want.  Maybe Rashford, but they won't move him.

Tammy Abraham please. Looks a real player. They can have him back in 3 or years for another 60m and the next 1
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Goaljira on March 30, 2017, 03:21:44 AM
Tammy Abraham please. Looks a real player. They can have him back in 3 or years for another 60m and the next 1

Tammy?  Is he from Boston?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 30, 2017, 03:38:21 AM
Tammy?  Is he from Boston?

If this Tammy is good, then wynette take a chance and stand by this man?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: sam of the south on March 30, 2017, 03:45:49 AM
Tammy?  Is he from Boston?

Underated quip of the day ⬆️
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluebridge on March 30, 2017, 04:28:16 AM
If this Tammy is good, then wynette take a chance and stand by this man?
Not got the likes this deserves.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Hawkandro on March 30, 2017, 04:29:34 PM
Regardless of whether Lukaku stays or goes, we should go all out for Iheanacho.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 30, 2017, 04:30:16 PM
Regardless of whether Lukaku stays or goes, we should go all out for Iheanacho.

For a sensible price.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Hawkandro on March 30, 2017, 04:32:06 PM
He has goals in him; look at his goals to game ratio for City. Young too. I think you may have to chuck something like £25-30m at him, but I think he would be worth it.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 30, 2017, 04:34:21 PM
He has goals in him; look at his goals to game ratio for City. Young too. I think you may have to chuck something like £25-30m at him, but I think he would be worth it.

That isn't a sensible price..
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Major Clanger on March 30, 2017, 04:35:35 PM
That isn't a sensible price..

How much did we pay for Bolasie?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 30, 2017, 04:43:53 PM
How much did we pay for Bolasie?

That's irrelevant though , we're not discussing Bolasie.

Iheanacho looks like a decent young player, but he's only played 42 times in his club career to date, with the majority of those appearances as a substitute and his goals record skewed by scoring late in games when he's come on against tired players either chasing the game or cementing a win.
There's no doubt he looks like a decent prospect and might well turn out to be a good player but to possibly blow nearly half of any Lukaku fee on him is a bit too much of a gamble, in my opinion.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Major Clanger on March 30, 2017, 04:46:42 PM
That's irrelevant though , we're not discussing Bolasie.

We are discussing buying an attacker, so what we already paid for similar players is far from irrelevant.

In fact it's probably the most relevant factor. If we paid £25m or however much for Bolasie, the same for Iheanacho is not unreasonable.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ramjam on March 30, 2017, 04:57:28 PM
We are discussing buying an attacker, so what we already paid for similar players is far from irrelevant.

In fact it's probably the most relevant factor. If we paid £25m or however much for Bolasie, the same for Iheanacho is not unreasonable.

I think Bolasie was about 10m overpriced, not a bad player but he's 28, 15 to 18m would be his worth
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 30, 2017, 05:00:08 PM
Didn't Rom start out that way? I seem to recall him coming off the bench scoring late on for West Brom as a young player.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: van der Meyde on March 30, 2017, 05:05:19 PM
We are discussing buying an attacker, so what we already paid for similar players is far from irrelevant.

In fact it's probably the most relevant factor. If we paid £25m or however much for Bolasie, the same for Iheanacho is not unreasonable.
Not sure about that.

£25m would be the most relevant factor if Iheanacho was starting every game, but he isn't even coming close to that.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Major Clanger on March 30, 2017, 05:08:09 PM
Not sure about that.

£25m would be the most relevant factor if Iheanacho was starting every game, but he isn't even coming close to that.

On the plus side though he's got much better end product and unlike Bolasie, will have resale value. But if you don't think it is a good comparison, look around what £25m buys you nowadays in terms of strikers.

More importantly though, we already paid that much for Bolasie and City know we've paid it. So they won't sell for anything less. Why would they?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 30, 2017, 05:09:56 PM
We are discussing buying an attacker, so what we already paid for similar players is far from irrelevant.

In fact it's probably the most relevant factor. If we paid £25m or however much for Bolasie, the same for Iheanacho is not unreasonable.

I think it's reasonably accepted we overpaid for Bolasie as we had money that needed spending, a gap that needed filling and only a short period of time to do it in.

I just don't think paying £30m for a young lad with no real experience is good value, it might be okay for Man U or Chelsea bit not Everton. There is a risk he'll not progress and we're left with an expensive flop and a gaping hole in our squad again.
We've had a year to identify targets should Lukaku decide to move on and I'm sure we should be able to identify a number of areas to strengthen with what will be a sizeable amount.

However that's just my opinion. 
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: van der Meyde on March 30, 2017, 05:11:25 PM
On the plus side though he's got much better end product and unlike Bolasie, will have resale value. But if you don't think it is a good comparison, look around what £25m buys you nowadays in terms of strikers.

More importantly though, we already paid that much for Bolasie and City know we've paid it. So they won't sell for anything less. Why would they?
They'd be well within their rights to use £30m as a starting point, yeah.

As arbitrary as it no doubt is, I wouldn't bat an eyelid if we paid £20m for him, but once it went higher than that I'd raise an eyebrow or two.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueNoseMike on March 30, 2017, 05:11:59 PM
Didn't Rom start out that way? I seem to recall him coming off the bench scoring late on for West Brom as a young player.

Rom started 20 games for West Brom and came on in 15. Of the 17 goals he scored, 6 were as a substitute. Interestingly of these 6 substitute goals, 3 were against United and 2 against the shite (in wins at the Hawthorns and Anfield no less).
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on March 30, 2017, 05:12:48 PM
Didn't Rom start out that way? I seem to recall him coming off the bench scoring late on for West Brom as a young player.

Lukaku had had two full seasons at Anderlecht and over 70 appearances before he even joined Chelsea. He wasn't an unknown quantity.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on March 30, 2017, 05:59:04 PM
Lukaku had had two full seasons at Anderlecht and over 70 appearances before he even joined Chelsea. He wasn't an unknown quantity.

True, but the Belgian league is nothing like the Prem. Look at how many strikers with great stats in Holland have come over and bombed for example, and the Dutch league is stronger than the Belgian one.

However, a deal for this lad with money up front and then more due with add ons, appearances etc might be worth investigating.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blueToffee on March 30, 2017, 09:16:53 PM
I've seen nothing of Iheanacho that would suggest he'd be worth a large transfer fee. Has done just ok in a (generally speaking) very good City side. Also, with the likes of Jesus there now he's not going to get much of a look in so his transfer value should reflect that.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: TheRam on March 30, 2017, 09:19:13 PM
You want to go out and get someone like Carlos Bacca is Lukaku does leave.

Don't want to be taking a risk and getting a 21 year old in to lead the line.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ridge on March 30, 2017, 09:21:48 PM
City and Pep still appear to see Iheanacho as the future, think £25m would be the price if they were looking to sell and not many interested parties.

With regard to Lukaku, I hope that the clause in his contract is only activated if we don't qualify for CL and we do so this year. New deal now Rom, or do you want to wait to be sold next summer?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on March 30, 2017, 09:25:16 PM
Koeman's sent the word out that he wants to keep him for an extra year. The last time he spoke up like that was complaining about the Schneiderlin deal taking a while. It was sorted out very quickly after he said that. I would assume the board will follow Koeman's wishes in this situation as well, especially if the desire is to keep Koeman for the immediate future.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 30, 2017, 09:35:43 PM
I reckon he will stay for another year
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: hill135 on March 30, 2017, 09:44:00 PM
Been talking about Henry's been helping him to improve his finishing while training on international duty. Looks like there is an upshot to Martinez being in charge of Belgium.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: bacon sarnie on March 30, 2017, 10:21:42 PM
Hat trick v the shite will be a nice way to say goodbye if he's going........
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 30, 2017, 10:23:13 PM
Player of the month vote, he's currently 2nd, Kante is first, voting closes at 7pm so vote vote vote

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10815689/vote-now-for-your-pfa-fans-player-of-the-month-in-the-premier-league
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Cozzie on March 30, 2017, 10:24:11 PM
Hat trick v the shite will be a nice way to say goodbye if he's going........

And bow three times infront of the kop, like Dixie.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: bacon sarnie on March 30, 2017, 10:26:00 PM
And bow three times infront of the kop, like Dixie.

Now THAT would be fuckinwell ace.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ridge on March 31, 2017, 12:20:20 AM
Player of the month vote, he's currently 2nd, Kante is first, voting closes at 7pm so vote vote vote

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10815689/vote-now-for-your-pfa-fans-player-of-the-month-in-the-premier-league

About 1k votes behind with 40 mins to go
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on March 31, 2017, 12:29:11 AM
Not gonna make it is he !
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Major Clanger on March 31, 2017, 12:37:12 AM
Just a little opinion piece from Jonathan Wilson.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/mar/30/everton-striker-romelu-lukaku
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Toddacelli on March 31, 2017, 12:53:52 AM
I've seen nothing of Iheanacho that would suggest he'd be worth a large transfer fee. Has done just ok in a (generally speaking) very good City side. Also, with the likes of Jesus there now he's not going to get much of a look in so his transfer value should reflect that.

I agree with @Major Clanger (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=181)

And at the risk of getting boring - the money side is just Bonkers - we can argue till we are as Blue in our faces as we are in our hearts but the fact of the matter is - if the club want to bring a player in - they will arrive at a deal which they think is fair and that they can afford.

(https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-07-2015/GXwPEM.gif)

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 31, 2017, 01:05:07 AM
Just a little opinion piece from Jonathan Wilson.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/mar/30/everton-striker-romelu-lukaku

that was an excellent read
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
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Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on March 31, 2017, 10:06:53 PM
Lukaku named Premier League player of the month
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: pjk on March 31, 2017, 10:11:44 PM
About time he got some credit.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Toddacelli on April 01, 2017, 02:09:10 AM
Lukaku named Premier League player of the month

He wanted to win things at Everton!   :)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Major Clanger on April 01, 2017, 02:12:27 AM
+£3m to the fee.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Toddacelli on April 01, 2017, 02:19:53 AM
Lukaku named Premier League player of the month

Niasse says - "let me know when you win Player of the Year, lid"
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Brownie20 on April 06, 2017, 06:19:19 AM
Haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/romelu-lukaku-plays-down-talk-10155843
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ridge on April 06, 2017, 06:45:17 AM
Here's the interview they are all getting the story from. https://www.easports.com/fifa/news/2017/epl-player-of-the-month-march (https://www.easports.com/fifa/news/2017/epl-player-of-the-month-march)

What are your personal motivations for the rest of the season?

"I want to create history at the club. I want to push for a top four spot and I think we must aim for this. Personally, I just want to improve and become a better player than I am today."

The question is specifically about this season, it's not an indication he's going to stay beyond it. He is already our all time top premier league scorer and first PL player to get 20 goals+, assuming extending these records is what he is talking about.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: brap2 on April 06, 2017, 02:06:01 PM
Talk online of Chelsea done.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Alanvideo on April 06, 2017, 02:11:01 PM
Talk online of Chelsea done.

..........99.999% done according to the Metro

http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/05/chelseas-deal-to-sign-romelu-lukaku-from-everton-is-reportedly-almost-done-6556459/
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 06, 2017, 02:23:04 PM
All of that has come from one Italian journo, who was said to be accurate with his info when Conte was at Juve.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: phillyt on April 06, 2017, 02:37:15 PM
Haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/romelu-lukaku-plays-down-talk-10155843

"I sent him a message that night actually and we as a team are going to do our best for him to make sure he is comfortable when he comes back into the team," said Lukaku.

That suggests his intention is to be here when seamus returns next year.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on April 06, 2017, 02:46:04 PM
Sanchez as well?

Lets go mad, tell Chelsea its 50 million plus Fabregas and Batshitti
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Toddacelli on April 06, 2017, 06:23:38 PM
Talk online of Chelsea done.

This is where I feel he will go to.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ridge on April 06, 2017, 06:26:13 PM
It's always seemed quite cut and dry as far as transfers go and it's always been Chelsea as main suitors.

Wonder if Chelsea had first refusal/option to buy him back and they'll be activating it this summer.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 06, 2017, 06:28:47 PM
"I sent him a message that night actually and we as a team are going to do our best for him to make sure he is comfortable when he comes back into the team," said Lukaku.

That suggests his intention is to be here when seamus returns next year.

The team will still be there for Seamus regardless of whether Lukaku is in it or not.

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on April 06, 2017, 06:37:23 PM
The team will still be there for Seamus regardless of whether Lukaku is in it or not.

Yes but he says "we" as a team are going to do "our" best when he comes back, not they as a team will do "their" best, shirt tails, straws and all that I know !
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ross on April 06, 2017, 06:38:36 PM
Just can't see Conte wanting him and unlike other recent Chelsea managers I'd expect he's got a massive say on transfers at the moment given they're about to win the league in his first season and the club are desperate for him to extend his current contract.

Still think we'll be in limbo with Lukaku until it's decided what Ibrahimovic and Raiola do.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 06, 2017, 06:39:27 PM
Yes but he says "we" as a team are going to do "our" best when he comes back, not they as a team will do "their" best, shirt tails, straws and all that I know !

It is straws I'm afraid as he has no idea who else in the team will leave over summer either. It's simply a nice statement to make in supporting a current team mate during a bad injury.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 06, 2017, 06:41:41 PM
Just can't see Conte wanting him and unlike other recent Chelsea managers I'd expect he's got a massive say on transfers at the moment given they're about to win the league in his first season and the club are desperate for him to extend his current contract.

Still think we'll be in limbo with Lukaku until it's decided what Ibrahimovic and Raiola do.

why?  He's exactly what they need to be a CL contender (in terms of threatening to win the thing).
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ridge on April 06, 2017, 06:49:43 PM
Yes but he says "we" as a team are going to do "our" best when he comes back, not they as a team will do "their" best, shirt tails, straws and all that I know !

Force of habit
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Toddacelli on April 06, 2017, 06:50:17 PM
Yes but he says "we" as a team are going to do "our" best when he comes back, not they as a team will do "their" best, shirt tails, straws and all that I know !

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/948/039/99a.gif)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ross on April 06, 2017, 06:57:53 PM
why?  He's exactly what they need to be a CL contender (in terms of threatening to win the thing).

From what I've seen of his teams Conte likes his players full of endeavour and commitment with a robust forward who can link the play and work tirelessly as a key component. All areas Lukaku falls down in. If Costa does go this summer (I doubt that as well) he'll have his pick of any forward in the world and there's plenty out there that fit the criteria better than Lukaku currently does.

Granted Mourinho looks for the same in his forwards but it looks like Raiola has the ear of some people high up at Utd and if he sees the chance to move another of his clients in he'll do everything he can to make it happen.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 06, 2017, 07:44:25 PM
From what I've seen of his teams Conte likes his players full of endeavour and commitment with a robust forward who can link the play and work tirelessly as a key component. All areas Lukaku falls down in. If Costa does go this summer (I doubt that as well) he'll have his pick of any forward in the world and there's plenty out there that fit the criteria better than Lukaku currently does.

Granted Mourinho looks for the same in his forwards but it looks like Raiola has the ear of some people high up at Utd and if he sees the chance to move another of his clients in he'll do everything he can to make it happen.

I think most outsiders would rate Lukaku more highly than some here do.  It's more sour grapes and/or nitpicking than anything.  Plus, what they lack is a clinical finisher, and that's Rom's best and highest use.  They create loads and loads of service, Rom could have scored 40 this year in their setup.

I don't think he will be stubborn beyond the point of reason, and we will soon see how the rest of the football world views Lukaku.  It's not lack of interest that hinders the move, it's how high our price tag is and how reluctant we are to move him within the Prem (and why I would insist on a promising young striker in return, plus money).
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Rhys on April 06, 2017, 07:51:41 PM
From what I've seen of his teams Conte likes his players full of endeavour and commitment with a robust forward who can link the play and work tirelessly as a key component. All areas Lukaku falls down in. If Costa does go this summer (I doubt that as well) he'll have his pick of any forward in the world and there's plenty out there that fit the criteria better than Lukaku currently does.

Granted Mourinho looks for the same in his forwards but it looks like Raiola has the ear of some people high up at Utd and if he sees the chance to move another of his clients in he'll do everything he can to make it happen.

I think he would prefer someone like Morata, who'd cost a lot less and only 24 as well, had a good couple of years with Juve and his goal record is good this year with Real Madrid. He's talking about leaving Real Madrid this summer and if it was a straight choice I think Conte would go for Morata. Not proven in the PL like Rom is but proven at 2 huge clubs and in the CL as well and probably cost half the money.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on April 06, 2017, 07:53:00 PM
I think most outsiders would rate Lukaku more highly than some here do.  It's more sour grapes and/or nitpicking than anything.  Plus, what they lack is a clinical finisher, and that's Rom's best and highest use.  They create loads and loads of service, Rom could have scored 40 this year in their setup.

I don't think he will be stubborn beyond the point of reason, and we will soon see how the rest of the football world views Lukaku.  It's not lack of interest that hinders the move, it's how high our price tag is and how reluctant we are to move him within the Prem (and why I would insist on a promising young striker in return, plus money).


It's not a question of quality really but overall tactical preferences.

That's why Conte plays a midfielder when Costa isn't available ahead of Batshuayi.

Similarly Klopp isn't playing Sturridge. There are plenty of managers who, injuries aside, would pick Sturridge as their tactical outlook isn't based on the aggressive pressing and more selfless running that those two, amongst others, prefer.

That's the same for Lukaku; some managers prefer the guarantee of work rate over the guarantee of goals as they place the team functioning as a unit over the team functioning through being driven by individual qualities.

There's no right or wrong there particularly as there are strengths / weaknesses to all approaches.

In this case it's clear that Conte wants Morata for the above reasons.

Another manager may want Lukaku and would play others to get the best out of him.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on April 06, 2017, 07:55:41 PM
From what I've seen of his teams Conte likes his players full of endeavour and commitment with a robust forward who can link the play and work tirelessly as a key component. All areas Lukaku falls down in. If Costa does go this summer (I doubt that as well) he'll have his pick of any forward in the world and there's plenty out there that fit the criteria better than Lukaku currently does.

Granted Mourinho looks for the same in his forwards but it looks like Raiola has the ear of some people high up at Utd and if he sees the chance to move another of his clients in he'll do everything he can to make it happen.

Agree although I'd say Mourinho largely plays the hand that is dealt to him.

With Lukaku improving all the time in the weaker areas (plus expected improvements when faced with the challenge at CL level etc) he'd back himself to find a way of getting the best out of him.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on April 06, 2017, 07:58:49 PM
I think he would prefer someone like Morata, who'd cost a lot less and only 24 as well, had a good couple of years with Juve and his goal record is good this year with Real Madrid. He's talking about leaving Real Madrid this summer and if it was a straight choice I think Conte would go for Morata. Not proven in the PL like Rom is but proven at 2 huge clubs and in the CL as well and probably cost half the money.

He's more rounded and suits a "team" tactic.

Obviously a very good player but probably not got the ultimate potential that Lukaku has, which is why good teams want him but he can't force himself to be permanently in the team.

Obviously he'd be guaranteed that at Chelsea otherwise he wouldn't want to go there, but that I think shows Conte's priorities.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ross on April 06, 2017, 08:13:50 PM
I think most outsiders would rate Lukaku more highly than some here do.  It's more sour grapes and/or nitpicking than anything.  Plus, what they lack is a clinical finisher, and that's Rom's best and highest use.  They create loads and loads of service, Rom could have scored 40 this year in their setup.

I don't think he will be stubborn beyond the point of reason, and we will soon see how the rest of the football world views Lukaku.  It's not lack of interest that hinders the move, it's how high our price tag is and how reluctant we are to move him within the Prem (and why I would insist on a promising young striker in return, plus money).


No sour grapes or nitpicking about it just a rationalisation of the situation and why I can't see him going to Chelsea.

As for how he's seen by "outsiders" you only need to see the conveyor belt of impartial ex pros in tv studios before, during and after games continually pointing out his obvious weaknesses and shortcomings to know what people really think of him.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueNoseMike on April 06, 2017, 08:29:16 PM
Agree although I'd say Mourinho largely plays the hand that is dealt to him.

With Lukaku improving all the time in the weaker areas (plus expected improvements when faced with the challenge at CL level etc) he'd back himself to find a way of getting the best out of him.
Koeman has done similar. It's obvious koeman wants a team that presses, and preferably from the front. However he has recognised that he has one of the best handful of finishers in the world and that this sort of acts an equaliser for the lack of press or high energy performances.

Klopp would have dropped lukaku. Guardiola would have sold him. Koeman has shown he can adapt.

Hope lukaku stays and although we can all see he has flaws and can improve, I'd take him how he is now with better players around the team. We can knock on the door next season. 100%
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Toddacelli on April 06, 2017, 08:54:21 PM
It's not a question of quality really but overall tactical preferences.

That's why Conte plays a midfielder when Costa isn't available ahead of Batshuayi.

Similarly Klopp isn't playing Sturridge. There are plenty of managers who, injuries aside, would pick Sturridge as their tactical outlook isn't based on the aggressive pressing and more selfless running that those two, amongst others, prefer.

That's the same for Lukaku; some managers prefer the guarantee of work rate over the guarantee of goals as they place the team functioning as a unit over the team functioning through being driven by individual qualities.

There's no right or wrong there particularly as there are strengths / weaknesses to all approaches.

In this case it's clear that Conte wants Morata for the above reasons.

Another manager may want Lukaku and would play others to get the best out of him.

Whilst you're probably right, it still doesn't preclude Lukaku from going to Chelsea as Conte may have new formations and personnel in mind for the summer.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on April 06, 2017, 09:35:06 PM
Whilst you're probably right, it still doesn't preclude Lukaku from going to Chelsea as Conte may have new formations and personnel in mind for the summer.

No, the argument seems to be there that the DoF wants him but Conte prefers Morata.

I'm sure Conte wouldn't resign over being bought Lukaku but he's unlikely to be his first choice.

His preference / footballing outlook overrides formations and personnel.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ridge on April 06, 2017, 09:52:54 PM
Just can't see Conte wanting him and unlike other recent Chelsea managers I'd expect he's got a massive say on transfers at the moment given they're about to win the league in his first season and the club are desperate for him to extend his current contract.

Still think we'll be in limbo with Lukaku until it's decided what Ibrahimovic and Raiola do.

Raiola's clan migration towards Manchester is notable, but Pogba went to Juve when Conte was manager, so he's been in bed with Mino. Don't forget Mourinho came in as he returned from West Brom loan, he then loaned and sold him to us over that summer and next.

Hazard is at Chelsea, they're going to win the league at a canter. And just like Pogba went back to United after leaving, not with his tail between his legs, but with his hair like a cock, he'll be given more money than he knows what to do with and get to fulfill the ambition and prove Ferguson/Mourinho wrong, at club with unfinished business.

He's 23 and it's difficult to find anyone across europe scoring more goals at that age, or with the consistency he has done over the years. He rarely gets injured and he'll get more chances with better service.

Conte signed Batshuayi who hasn't really worked out, so int the market and who younger or that much better? He brought back David Luiz, so wouldn't seem a worry.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ridge on April 06, 2017, 09:57:20 PM
No, the argument seems to be there that the DoF wants him but Conte prefers Morata.

I'm sure Conte wouldn't resign over being bought Lukaku but he's unlikely to be his first choice.

His preference / footballing outlook overrides formations and personnel.

Would be interesting if Lukaku is the new Shevchenko.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Fynci on April 06, 2017, 11:58:58 PM
If Lukaku does end up back at Chelsea then I fear for him that it will be a step back in his career. Fast forward 3 years and I can imagine him plying his trade elsewhere, and I'd be surprised if it is at a club more than our current level.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: brap2 on April 07, 2017, 12:31:26 AM
If I was Lukaku I'd stroll off to Paris mate.

Boss city, loadsa birds, loadsa money, win the league every year, too goalscorer every year, play CL and get talked about in those circles without really having to push yourself beyond what he does now.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: sam of the south on April 07, 2017, 12:58:08 AM
If I was Lukaku I'd stroll off to Paris mate.

Boss city, loadsa birds, loadsa money, win the league every year, too goalscorer every year, play CL and get talked about in those circles without really having to push yourself beyond what he does now.

I hope he does.

Can't bear the thought of him tearing it up at United or Chelsea, in our faces, like that bird who was well out of your league that you inexplicably held onto for years, even though you were an anxious, nervous pussy throughout the whole relationship, because you knew you were punching 👊🏻👊🏿
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: bogie on April 07, 2017, 01:24:50 AM
could they let him sign for manu (not going to go into all the stats and shit ) but % of chances to goals is manu,s downfall this year and he would sort that out somewhat

lads  £70m and we can get 2 in that will play the high press the manger likes a lot better

Lukaku going would only be the end of the world till we signed a few new players
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: brap2 on April 07, 2017, 01:30:19 AM
Just who we sign innit.

All the money in the world doesn't produce a vardy out of thin air - not that I'd want him but you get me.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Toddacelli on April 07, 2017, 02:07:37 AM
Just who we sign innit.

All the money in the world doesn't produce a vardy out of thin air - not that I'd want him but you get me.

This is it - we need some of Walsh's Wonderbuys!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blue slug on April 07, 2017, 03:19:29 AM
I can see him going Paris he'd score a fuck load there and at least he wouldn't be scoring against us
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on April 07, 2017, 05:36:29 AM
I can see him going Paris he'd score a fuck load there and at least he wouldn't be scoring against us

yes he would, in about 2 seasons.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: everton1952 on April 07, 2017, 05:57:56 AM
just maybe he is staying.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ramjam on April 07, 2017, 08:53:07 AM
Seems that Conte doesn't want him at Chelski it's the director of football who wants to sign him
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: TheRam on April 07, 2017, 11:43:04 AM
Just who we sign innit.

All the money in the world doesn't produce a vardy out of thin air - not that I'd want him but you get me.

We're signing vardy in the summer like.

Been saying this for ages.

I'd have him.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on April 07, 2017, 11:57:02 AM
I'd have Vardy too.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jamokachi on April 07, 2017, 12:39:04 PM
pair of filthy bastards
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: ally2 on April 07, 2017, 01:51:04 PM
I'd have that skank too
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: brap2 on April 07, 2017, 01:54:49 PM
We're signing vardy in the summer like.

Been saying this for ages.

I'd have him.

Fuck that
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Fynci on April 07, 2017, 02:13:54 PM
Vardy is the next Beattie.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lazarou on April 07, 2017, 02:24:29 PM
It's a no from me, surely as a potential replacement for Lukaku we have to be aiming higher than Vardy.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on April 07, 2017, 02:28:41 PM
Lukaku will still be an Everton next season
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Cereal Killer on April 07, 2017, 03:43:11 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39521532

certified football genius Danny Murphy selling Lukaku for us today  :wanker:

we need more ex-Blues selling shite players every week..... where's Tony Cottee saying Coutinho is ideal for Barcelona and should be off there as soon as the transfer window opens?!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ross on April 07, 2017, 03:59:44 PM
Vardy is the next Beattie.

Vardy is the 5th Beattie.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on April 07, 2017, 04:08:09 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39521532

certified football genius Danny Murphy selling Lukaku for us today  :wanker:

we need more ex-Blues selling shite players every week..... where's Tony Cottee saying Coutinho is ideal for Barcelona and should be off there as soon as the transfer window opens?!

To be honest I think that's a fairly balanced assessment of the situation, he says on several occasions that he may well be better off continuing his development for another year under a great coach like Koeman and his stock would rise further.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: MIG on April 07, 2017, 04:35:04 PM
To be honest I think that's a fairly balanced assessment of the situation, he says on several occasions that he may well be better off continuing his development for another year under a great coach like Koeman and his stock would rise further.

Shame the headline isn't balanced.
Romelu Lukaku: Chelsea would be a no-brainer for Everton striker - Danny Murphy
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on April 07, 2017, 04:44:02 PM
Shame the headline isn't balanced.
Romelu Lukaku: Chelsea would be a no-brainer for Everton striker - Danny Murphy

It's only the headline, if you read the article it's well balanced but I guess "Lukaku may be best staying at Everton" doesn't quite sell the story to the same extent.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Alanvideo on April 07, 2017, 04:54:34 PM
Don't know why people turn their noses up at Vardy ,same as they did about Defoe two seasons ago and he's scored 33 goals in a poor Sunderland team. Vardy is 30 so might not cost the earth even though he has got 3 years left on his contract. He's not in the same class as Lukaku but would be a great option as back up.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on April 07, 2017, 05:25:18 PM
The though of replacing Lukaku with Vardy terrifies me
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 07, 2017, 05:26:22 PM
He's old, he's a petulant jackass, he's not going to be content to be a backup ANYWHERE (certainly not here).

If our forward replacement options over the summer are the likes of Rooney and Vardy, we might as well night have a DoF at all, and just let the comments section of the newspaper do the job.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: pjk on April 07, 2017, 05:27:38 PM
It's unfortunate for Evertonians, that the current crop of football experts are roughly what, 30-40% ex Liverpool players? They can attempt to hide their bias, but it just doesn't work. Lawrenson for example with his predictions. Over the season he has continually dropped Everton beneath their average form by roughly -20% which is reflected in the predictions league. However, where it comes to the average form of Liverpool he has had them running at an average of +25% in his predictions table. He get's away with as much bias as is possible without it getting to the levels of the ridiculous. That's around abouts a 45% swing in favour of  Liverpool. Stats aren't my strong point but that's roughly what I get from their bias punditry.

Danny Murphy is very similar when speaking about Everton, his obvious bias is simmering away underneath the facts that are present. He actually gets uncomfortable and starts fidgeting when he's wielding the axe. Lawrenson seems to revel in it.  ???
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Alanvideo on April 07, 2017, 05:44:22 PM
The though of replacing Lukaku with Vardy terrifies me
..................nobody has said he would be a direct replacement. Anyway we'll probably see him at first hand on Sunday .
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: hill135 on April 07, 2017, 06:15:18 PM
Interesting stats from Danny Murphy

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/624/cpsprodpb/F0D1/production/_95494616_pltopscorers.png)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on April 07, 2017, 06:37:56 PM
I mean it's fairly obvious that most goals will be scored against lesser teams; especially if you score a lot in total so that there's a bigger sample.

You get the odd player in a particular run of form who might score with a higher ratio in big games, Naismith for example, but that's usually not a long term trend or it can be indicative that the opposition isn't that bothered in general about that player.

Also the point that's raised about late goals.

Messi scores loads in the last 15 minutes, do these goals not count?

Unless you have a wide margin of lead even a goal in the last 30 seconds to make it 2-0 say is valuable, as we would have liked to have seen on Tuesday.

There's no doubt that he needs to improve his all round performances in these games but equally there's been too much of an issue made of it; certainly there's been little thought to the above factors and / or whatever his peers are or aren't doing.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: efcforlife on April 07, 2017, 06:50:53 PM
Please not Vardy.

Just no

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Cozzie on April 07, 2017, 06:59:47 PM
My name is severely in the "No to vardy" hat, be beyond depressed if we signed him.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluenose 91 on April 07, 2017, 07:05:18 PM
Dunno if it's just cause I've not paid much attention to non Everton players in this situation but I don't think I 've ever seen the top scorer in the league get critiqued so intensely before.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: ally2 on April 07, 2017, 07:12:16 PM
Vardy or Rooney then??
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on April 07, 2017, 08:04:17 PM
Dunno if it's just cause I've not paid much attention to non Everton players in this situation but I don't think I 've ever seen the top scorer in the league get critiqued so intensely before.

And more so by his own fans. It's plain ridiculous.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 07, 2017, 08:25:26 PM
Vardy or Rooney then??

No one else we can go after then?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Major Clanger on April 07, 2017, 08:49:19 PM
Vardy or Rooney then??

Can't we have both?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 07, 2017, 09:56:32 PM
It's only the headline, if you read the article it's well balanced but I guess "Lukaku may be best staying at Everton" doesn't quite sell the story to the same extent.

But no football person thinks that though. The time has probably come for a parting of the ways. He's given us three years, we've barely progressed at all and he's now 23. No-one really knows how good he is and the only way for him to find out is to take the plunge.
This summer is a pivotal summer anyway, we may as well crack on with the proper rebuilding, take the money and we all move on.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Polledreng on April 07, 2017, 10:27:52 PM
Interesting stats from Danny Murphy

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/624/cpsprodpb/F0D1/production/_95494616_pltopscorers.png)
It seems like forner shite players doesn't know   that Lukaku is shite when playing the top teams.....or could it be that's not so easy
 to score against them
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 07, 2017, 10:30:15 PM
It seems like forner shite players doesn't know   that Lujaku is shite qhen playing the top teams.....or could it be that's not ao aimpwl to score against them

piss head
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Polledreng on April 07, 2017, 10:32:52 PM
piss head
whats wrong with you
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 07, 2017, 10:33:44 PM
whats wrong with you

???
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: ally2 on April 08, 2017, 12:19:04 AM
No one else we can go after then?

Vardy is actually gettable though I reckon. He missed the boat going to Arsenal last summer and likely rues that decision (unless he received a death threat like another player we know about a few years ago).
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on April 10, 2017, 12:03:36 AM
140k per week.

LOL

He won't stay with us for any less than 300k per week.

And I think it's a fair price given the alternative is to find someone not as good for tens of millions in the transfer market.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on April 10, 2017, 12:06:59 AM
I would hate to lose him, but my prediction is that...

Chelsea buys Lukaku for 80M
Chelsea sells Costa for 65M
Chelsea buys Sanchez for 70M

Chelsea gets 100 table points next year
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 10, 2017, 12:09:12 AM
I would hate to lose him, but my prediction is that...

Chelsea buys Lukaku for 80M
Chelsea sells Costa for 65M
Chelsea buys Sanchez for 70M

Chelsea gets 100 table points next year
Not sure about the numbers in your post but the overall premise is pretty sound.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on April 10, 2017, 12:31:45 AM
I would hate to lose him, but my prediction is that...

Chelsea buys Lukaku for 80M
Chelsea sells Costa for 65M
Chelsea buys Sanchez for 70M

Chelsea gets 100 table points next year

Chelsea buy Lukaku for 30 million plus Batshityy
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Cozzie on April 10, 2017, 12:42:21 AM
Chelsea buy Lukaku for 30 million plus Batshityy

So you are valuing Batshittyshoo at £40M?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Coyb12 on April 10, 2017, 12:44:18 AM
Chelsea buy Lukaku for 30 million plus Batshityy
i would still want 50m plus player.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Paddockoldie on April 10, 2017, 12:47:37 AM
Don't know if anyone watched on the stream I did but Rom picked his 5 aside team... all Chelsea except for Kompany... was almost drooling when talking about his Chelsea says.... He so wants to go back I reckon. We need to plan now. If the money's good, sell, grieve and move on.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bally on April 10, 2017, 12:56:22 AM
I would hate to lose him, but my prediction is that...

Chelsea buys Lukaku for 80M
Chelsea sells Costa for 65M
Chelsea buys Sanchez for 70M

Chelsea gets 100 table points next year
My prediction is your brain caves in because of the amount of drugs you have had to come to that conclusion.... Wow
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: chang on April 10, 2017, 01:14:20 AM
Quote
Lukaku now has 23 Premier League goals this season; one more than Middlesbrough have as a team (22).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39470449
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 10, 2017, 02:15:39 AM
Don't know if anyone watched on the stream I did but Rom picked his 5 aside team... all Chelsea except for Kompany... was almost drooling when talking about his Chelsea says.... He so wants to go back I reckon. We need to plan now. If the money's good, sell, grieve and move on.
That's about a year old
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 10, 2017, 02:20:24 AM
140k per week.

LOL

He won't stay with us for any less than 300k per week.

And I think it's a fair price given the alternative is to find someone not as good for tens of millions in the transfer market.

It's not so simple mate. You have to have a wage structure at a club for a reason (unless you're Utd). Every player at the club would be knocking on Moshiri's metaphorical door the next morning, if we just elevated one of our players onto £300k a week.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueBeagle on April 10, 2017, 02:32:58 AM
Why anyone wants that Batwhatever as part of the deal from Chelsea is beyond me.

Surely you'd rather just a larger transfer fee to spend on actual targets that have been scouted due to their suitability to our style?

Plus the fact he's shown very little and swaps rarely happen.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: ally2 on April 10, 2017, 02:36:01 AM
Why anyone wants that Batwhatever as part of the deal from Chelsea is beyond me.

Surely you'd rather just a larger transfer fee to spend on actual targets that have been scouted due to their suitability to our style?

Plus the fact he's shown very little and swaps rarely happen.

No-one really knows what he's like because he hasn't played much or consistently.  Fair enough you can read into that that Chelsea think he isn't worth keeping happy even though he can't displace Costa.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Paddockoldie on April 10, 2017, 02:41:44 AM
That's about a year old
Oh... didn't realise. Still think it's what he wants though.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 10, 2017, 02:45:45 AM
Really think we should insist on Tammy Abraham if lukaku goes to Chelsea. He's going to be a great player
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 10, 2017, 02:48:44 AM
Really think we should insist on Tammy Abraham if lukaku goes to Chelsea. He's going to be a great player

Looks all arms and legs. A bit Kanu-esque if he's the one I'm thinking of.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 10, 2017, 02:52:23 AM
Really think we should insist on Tammy Abraham if lukaku goes to Chelsea. He's going to be a great player
He should have minimal effect on the fee and I doubt he is Pl ready but, yeah he'a better than What we have in backup now
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueBeagle on April 10, 2017, 02:59:12 AM
No-one really knows what he's like because he hasn't played much or consistently.  Fair enough you can read into that that Chelsea think he isn't worth keeping happy even though he can't displace Costa.

So why would anyone want him over cold hard cash that can buy you a player you've actually scouted because he's playing regularly somewhere?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: ally2 on April 10, 2017, 03:01:44 AM
So why would anyone want him over cold hard cash that can buy you a player you've actually scouted because he's playing regularly somewhere?

yes i agree.  i don't want him
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: brap2 on April 10, 2017, 03:05:00 AM
I want him because before he went to Chelsea he was rated one of the top striking prospects in Europe.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Waltzer on April 10, 2017, 03:32:40 AM
He should have minimal effect on the fee and I doubt he is Pl ready but, yeah he'a better than What we have in backup now
Chelsea would want more than 10 million for him easy.  He's doing well at a struggling city team but he does have off the field issues I believe
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Silas on April 10, 2017, 03:41:35 AM
No one ever throws players in transfer deals in the premier league. It'll be cash or not at all if he goes. 
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Robioto on April 10, 2017, 03:42:34 AM
No one ever throws players in transfer deals in the premier league. It'll be cash or not at all if he goes. 

Exactly, it's all gone a bit Football Manager this thread.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: ally2 on April 10, 2017, 03:43:59 AM
No one ever throws players in transfer deals in the premier league. It'll be cash or not at all if he goes. 

I don't know why though.  It has to be a good way of fudging the books in a way that benefits both clubs
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 10, 2017, 03:45:24 AM
Chelsea would want more than 10 million for him easy.  He's doing well at a struggling city team but he does have off the field issues I believe
Ten m, minimal
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on April 10, 2017, 03:51:27 AM
I don't know why though.  It has to be a good way of fudging the books in a way that benefits both clubs

Probably due to difficulties agreeing the value of the makeweight player and said makeweight not being that keen on being passed from "top" club to lesser club as part of a deal as a cast off (meaning less bargaining power for wages).
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 10, 2017, 04:10:55 AM
I rate Batshuayi, but would want 50-60m in addition for Rom.

And I'd rather just keep our beloved (and not beloved enough, FFS) Rom.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 10, 2017, 04:15:33 AM
I rate Batshuayi, but would want 50-60m in addition for Rom.

And I'd rather just keep our beloved (and not beloved enough, FFS) Rom.
I ask in good faith, rate him on what?

I don't watch the Belgian league, nor the French so for me he is a total unknown.

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 10, 2017, 05:11:04 AM
I ask in good faith, rate him on what?

I don't watch the Belgian league, nor the French so for me he is a total unknown.



World Cup play.  I think he's legit, and I think his game will translate.  He just needs a fair shot.

I'm not saying put all our eggs in his basket, but as 1 of 2 shots we take, he's worth a punt.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jamokachi on April 10, 2017, 10:24:27 AM
can we offer him 250k please?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on April 10, 2017, 02:30:35 PM
He went out with his best bud Pogba last night, just waiting for the papers to put 2 and 2 together and come up with a Lukaku to United story
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 10, 2017, 02:54:32 PM
He went out with his best bud Pogba last night, just waiting for the papers to put 2 and 2 together and come up with a Lukaku to United story

It wouldn't be a long stretch though would it.
They have a shocking chance to conversion rate, manager slags off his strikers publicly, most prolific striker in the league looking for a move and two best buds pictured constantly together.

Would we take any of their players in part exchange?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on April 10, 2017, 02:58:17 PM
It wouldn't be a long stretch though would it.
They have a shocking chance to conversion rate, manager slags off his strikers publicly, most prolific striker in the league looking for a move and two best buds pictured constantly together.

Would we take any of their players in part exchange?

I can't think of any to be honest, Martial maybe?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 10, 2017, 03:10:17 PM
I can't think of any to be honest, Martial maybe?

Nah.

Mkhitaryan on the other hand...
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Cozzie on April 10, 2017, 03:27:11 PM
Juan mata?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Big Nev on April 10, 2017, 05:55:37 PM
Interesting little chat about Rom on MOTD3
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39547492
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on April 10, 2017, 06:30:37 PM
Interesting little chat about Rom on MOTD3
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39547492

Spot on. Keown and Killer are two of the better Beeb pundits.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 10, 2017, 06:35:47 PM
Spot on. Keown and Killer are two of the better Beeb pundits.

Athletico Madrid though? Sure, they're a step up from us, but I don't think they're the step he would be aiming for. I can see him working well at Real Madrid.
Title: Good news on the lukaku fron5
Post by: BlueNoseMike on April 13, 2017, 01:09:43 AM
'Morata expects Conte reunion'

http://www.skysports.com/share/10834440

Sorry didn't know how to link these to the lukaku thread. Merge if needed. Promising talks for us that
Title: Re: Good news on the lukaku fron5
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on April 13, 2017, 01:38:01 AM
Happy days.

(Fron5 and the happy days.)
Title: Re: Good news on the lukaku fron5
Post by: Macca77 on April 13, 2017, 01:50:18 AM
It's nothing news really, plenty of teams will be after him
Title: Re: Good news on the lukaku fron5
Post by: D15TIN on April 13, 2017, 02:12:27 AM
Think United is more likely now anyway, all depends on Greizmann
Title: Re: Good news on the lukaku fron5
Post by: Coyb12 on April 13, 2017, 02:27:18 AM
Didn't think he'd go there a anyway.
Title: Re: Good news on the lukaku fron5
Post by: blargins on April 13, 2017, 02:42:35 AM
He'd be a perfect fit for Real Madrid...
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 13, 2017, 04:51:39 AM
I'm thinking he stays again.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: arteta4spain on April 13, 2017, 05:17:55 AM
Reckon he'll see what happens in the summer see who comes in and maybe get a move in Jan if hes not happy with our progression
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blue slug on April 13, 2017, 12:58:41 PM
Got to leave for work but apparently drogba on sky sports news and has a secret about lukaku, probs nowt but thought I'd post
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: arteta4spain on April 13, 2017, 01:11:21 PM
Got to leave for work but apparently drogba on sky sports news and has a secret about lukaku, probs nowt but thought I'd post
Just caught the end of it then, I reckon he's gone! But who knows!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: TSGun on April 13, 2017, 01:19:43 PM
So the Phoenix Rising it is then. Have to admit, didn't see that coming.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Sir Stealth on April 13, 2017, 01:37:53 PM
Got to leave for work but apparently drogba on sky sports news and has a secret about lukaku, probs nowt but thought I'd post

Chelsea I reckon, surely. Surely this will be the biggest transfer fee we've ever received by some distance
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 13, 2017, 01:53:16 PM
Drogba might have knowledge of Lukaku's summer plans. Not sure he'll have knowledge of Everton's.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Paddockoldie on April 13, 2017, 01:58:05 PM
If he is going, I think he needs to tell his mates to STFU about it. For Drogba to hold court like that is pretty shit and disrespectful. These people think he's doing us a favour!!! Need to fuckin word him.. if you wanna go, say and then we can get some money sorted. Fuckin pissed me off that. No player is bigger than us but he thinks he is.. bye, bye. Thanks for everything.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Cozzie on April 13, 2017, 03:54:46 PM
Drogba is his hero too. Still 2 years on his contract though, relax. If he does go then its fully on our terms and we get an absolute swinging cock of a fee for him.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Robioto on April 13, 2017, 04:31:28 PM
Drogba is his hero too. Still 2 years on his contract though, relax. If he does go then its fully on our terms and we get an absolute swinging cock of a fee for him.

A swinging cock of a fee? That's a new one and I'll be stealing it.

Consider yourself redeemed after the vile shite saga. :)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 13, 2017, 04:56:07 PM
One of two destinations then, Chelsea or Man U. Either of them will see us trousering upwards towards a Pogba level fee. I hope big Steve has done his homework and has our replacements tapped up already.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 13, 2017, 04:58:40 PM
Still don't think you should make yourselves weaker and make a team you're trying to catch up with stronger, regardless of fee. Spurs made their rivals stronger for a long period by selling to them. Learned their lessons in recent years by selling their best players abroad (albiet you might say they were the only ones willing to pay the fees for people like Modric and Bale). In my opinion, no way would you see Spurs selling Kane or Alli to Man Utd now.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 13, 2017, 05:09:46 PM
Still don't think you should make yourselves weaker and make a team you're trying to catch up with stronger, regardless of fee. Spurs made their rivals stronger for a long period by selling to them. Learned their lessons in recent years by selling their best players abroad (albiet you might say they were the only ones willing to pay the fees for people like Modric and Bale). In my opinion, no way would you see Spurs selling Kane or Alli to Man Utd now.

I think they still would. If Spurs had a mare of a time and fell out of the top 6 their players would want Champions League football and I don't think they'd be able to stand in their way easily. The media would help sell them too, to help free England's stars being held to ransom playing Europa League football at best.

We've only just made it into a top 7 and we're still the poor relations in footballing terms. I don't think we're in a strong enough position yet to deter the bigger clubs from taking our players. I have faith that we will be soon under Koeman/Moshiri but I kind of feel we need to put a line under the Lukaku saga to build and move forwards.
Finances dictate he'll probably stay in this country due to the superior wealth here and his proven record in the Premier League. Let's bite the bullet, put our trust in Walsh and Koeman to rebuild us stronger and move on.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 13, 2017, 05:11:13 PM
I think they still would. If Spurs had a mare of a time and fell out of the top 6 their players would want Champions League football and I don't think they'd be able to stand in their way easily. The media would help sell them too, to help free England's stars being held to ransom playing Europa League football at best.

We've only just made it into a top 7 and we're still the poor relations in footballing terms. I don't think we're in a strong enough position yet to deter the bigger clubs from taking our players. I have faith that we will be soon under Koeman/Moshiri but I kind of feel we need to put a line under the Lukaku saga to build and move forwards.
Finances dictate he'll probably stay in this country due to the superior wealth here and his proven record in the Premier League. Let's bite the bullet, put our trust in Walsh and Koeman to rebuild us stronger and move on.

Couldn't disagree more with every single part of that x.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blue slug on April 13, 2017, 05:34:18 PM
I can defo see him staying in the prem and Chelsea and man utd are the obvious choices as both short of quality up front
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 13, 2017, 05:44:50 PM
Couldn't disagree more with every single part of that x.

That looks like a typical text message off my missus.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Waltzer on April 13, 2017, 05:45:21 PM
I can defo see him staying in the prem and Chelsea and man utd are the obvious choices as both short of quality up front

Morata has indicated he could be off to Chelsea and I thought Griezmann is off to United? I do think those are the most likely destination, but if the other links are true I cant see either of them spending in excess of 120 million on 2 strikers, be an interesting summer.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lazarou on April 13, 2017, 05:50:05 PM
I think they still would. If Spurs had a mare of a time and fell out of the top 6 their players would want Champions League football and I don't think they'd be able to stand in their way easily. The media would help sell them too, to help free England's stars being held to ransom playing Europa League football at best.

We've only just made it into a top 7 and we're still the poor relations in footballing terms. I don't think we're in a strong enough position yet to deter the bigger clubs from taking our players. I have faith that we will be soon under Koeman/Moshiri but I kind of feel we need to put a line under the Lukaku saga to build and move forwards.
Finances dictate he'll probably stay in this country due to the superior wealth here and his proven record in the Premier League. Let's bite the bullet, put our trust in Walsh and Koeman to rebuild us stronger and move on.

Spot on. I am ready to move on without him. This still feels like a legacy of the Kenwright/Martinez era that needs sorting.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: brap2 on April 13, 2017, 07:57:50 PM
Yeah I'd love it if he said 'Everton are ready to push on and so am i, I believe this sides got trophys in it and I want to be the man who wins them' but it just isn't going to happen is it, and I don't blame him.

Let's hope for a swift, amicable parting,  big old fee and a list of replacements as long as your arm.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 13, 2017, 08:19:20 PM
I really don't think we are in a position to make lukaku emigrate. It would be a shitty thing to do, certainly wouldn't help us attract new players either

If he's for sale then he should be for sale to everyone (barring Liverpool) at the same price and we'll rebuild and move on.
We are in for a massive profit here. Be very petty trying to force him to PSG. Also there's a fair chance he might not have then foreign options anyway. Or maybe only 1 and so harder to negotiate
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Hawkandro on April 13, 2017, 09:08:10 PM
Koeman, in his press conference, has said Lukaku has told him he won't be signing a new deal with us. So... do we cash in now and look to reinforce the squad, or keep him for another (potentially unhappy) year?

Tough call.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: chang on April 13, 2017, 09:15:02 PM
Koeman, in his press conference, has said Lukaku has told him he won't be signing a new deal with us. So... do we cash in now and look to reinforce the squad, or keep him for another (potentially unhappy) year?

Tough call.

Sell - then bump who ever buys him out the top 4 next year to satisfy the child in me....
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: chang on April 13, 2017, 09:27:31 PM
From Koemans press conference - love it !

Quote
Koeman reiterated today that the Belgium forward has said he will not sign a new contract with the Toffees, going on to name-check Didier...

"He's the best productive [sic] striker in the Premier League.

"He [Lukaku] is doing really well. He’s a great finisher.

"No (Lukaku didn’t tell him his plans). He told me he won’t sign a new contract.

"Maybe I wait for the call from Drogba to tell me where he wants to go."
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 13, 2017, 09:32:02 PM
What's Drogba said?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Waltzer on April 13, 2017, 09:35:47 PM
Koeman, in his press conference, has said Lukaku has told him he won't be signing a new deal with us. So... do we cash in now and look to reinforce the squad, or keep him for another (potentially unhappy) year?

Tough call.

His options are limited as there arent that many clubs that could afford him that actually need him. I appreciate that a player is only worth what someone is willing to pay and id probably put him around 70 million mark, but if Pogba is 89 million surely Rom offers more to a team than that? I know he hasnt proved it n the CL but you will be investing in a 23 year old that has probably just be crowned leading goal scorer in the 'best league' in the world.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Waltzer on April 13, 2017, 09:37:02 PM
What's Drogba said?

He said hes had a chat with Rom and he knows what hes going to do, apparently we have no say in what Roms going to do!!!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Major Clanger on April 13, 2017, 09:38:31 PM
Thankfully with Lukaku having his mind set on moving to Chelsea, but still having two years on his contract, we can set the price as high as we want and then tell Rom to convince Abramovich to cough up, or he'll be forced to stay.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 13, 2017, 09:46:55 PM
He said hes had a chat with Rom and he knows what hes going to do, apparently we have no say in what Roms going to do!!!
Ah right
Cheers
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: JordanianEmbassy on April 13, 2017, 09:47:01 PM
From Koemans press conference - love it !


haha!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lazarou on April 13, 2017, 09:54:08 PM
It's disappointing that he does not think it is worth hanging around to see our exciting future and a little surprising considering time is most definitely on his side. It is a shame that he will be leaving us without getting that legendary status that his talent deserves but his attitude does not.

Just hope we find a replacement that can fill his shooting boots. Steve Walsh's summer if it was not big before is now even bigger. Massive job to do.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 13, 2017, 10:01:00 PM
Koeman, in his press conference, has said Lukaku has told him he won't be signing a new deal with us. So... do we cash in now and look to reinforce the squad, or keep him for another (potentially unhappy) year?

Tough call.

One more year.  We won't advance further next season without him.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 13, 2017, 10:02:42 PM
Who knows, perhaps we only get one more season with Koeman, too.  So go all in on making it a special one.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Rodenplav64 on April 13, 2017, 10:42:05 PM
Sell him to the highest bidder .
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: arteta4spain on April 13, 2017, 11:18:59 PM
Here's where we don't sell and get champions league next season! ;-) everyones a winner!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 13, 2017, 11:22:31 PM
No one else thinking that it will be extra difficult to attract players capable of getting us in the Champions League if we sell Lukaku and/or Barkley?

What sort of message does that send to potential signings, that we're trying to convince to come to us over other big, rich clubs? I'd be thinking ''they keep going on about ambition but they're selling the top scorer in the league to a team above them, and they're letting their best homegrown player go to another team above them. No chance''.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blueToffee on April 13, 2017, 11:25:52 PM
Really crap news. No two ways about it. We're going to have a huge job on our hands this summer with transfers.

I think it could put a drag on our run in to the end of the season too. Otherwise we could've had decent momentum going into the summer.

IF he's going to get on with things I'd be tempted to keep in another year. We'd still get a huge amount for him and it may give us the chance to build a little more and get a decent replacement in. It's a tough call.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 13, 2017, 11:26:49 PM
If he stays another year, I think we can still get a decent price for him next summer if it doesn't go as planned. It's world cup year or Euro champs year (I can't remember which), so he'll need to play well for us to get into the squad.

If we get CL, he may sign another contract. If not, we'll get at least what we paid for him even with only a year left on his contract.

Let's roll the dice and tell him he stays.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 13, 2017, 11:31:08 PM
he is hanging out with Pogba tonight. *sigh* i just wish for once we were a club where rumours didnt take our players from us every week.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blob on April 13, 2017, 11:32:45 PM
no point keeping an unhappy player.

wring him for all we can get.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Major Clanger on April 13, 2017, 11:57:07 PM
No one else thinking that it will be extra difficult to attract players capable of getting us in the Champions League if we sell Lukaku and/or Barkley?

What sort of message does that send to potential signings, that we're trying to convince to come to us over other big, rich clubs? I'd be thinking ''they keep going on about ambition but they're selling the top scorer in the league to a team above them, and they're letting their best homegrown player go to another team above them. No chance''.

Let's check how it worked out for Spurs. :)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 14, 2017, 12:04:38 AM
Let's check how it worked out for Spurs. :)

Not that well, judging on the output of Soldado, Lamela, Capoue, Chiriches, Paulinho and Chadli. Eriksen worked out for them. They also finished a position lower in the league the season after selling Bale, in a much less competitive league than the current situation.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Major Clanger on April 14, 2017, 12:05:48 AM
Not that well, judging on the output of Soldado, Lamela, Capoue, Chiriches, Paulinho and Chadli. Eriksen worked out for them. They also finished a position lower in the league the season after selling Bale, in a much less competitive league than the current situation.

They bought shite with the money, but what I'm saying is: has anyone not signed for Spurs because they had sold Bale?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: chang on April 14, 2017, 12:09:49 AM
No one else thinking that it will be extra difficult to attract players capable of getting us in the Champions League if we sell Lukaku and/or Barkley?

What sort of message does that send to potential signings, that we're trying to convince to come to us over other big, rich clubs? I'd be thinking ''they keep going on about ambition but they're selling the top scorer in the league to a team above them, and they're letting their best homegrown player go to another team above them. No chance''.

Not like Everton have a for sale board hanging around any players neck though is it ? Everton don't have to sell, but if any player indicates they won't sign and buy into the future of the club (which is a business) then it makes sense to move on.

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 14, 2017, 12:11:53 AM
They bought shite with the money, but what I'm saying is: has anyone not signed for Spurs because they had sold Bale?

Judging on that list, no-one good signed for them bar Eriksen. And they were in the CL or EL every season, and they're in London.

We're coming from a much lower base, and with the best will in the world, Rom is probably our only player of international repute. Spurs had Lloris, Vertonghen, Sigurdsson, Adebayor, Dembele, Defoe all already in the squad.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Major Clanger on April 14, 2017, 12:14:40 AM
Judging on that list, no-one good signed for them bar Eriksen. And they were in the CL or EL every season, and they're in London.

But who turned them down? I remember they had that charlatan as their DoF.

We've got a better one hopefully, but I think the risk of signing the wrong players just because we approached the wrong players still outweighs the risk of someone good refusing to sign just because we sold Lukaku (who clearly desperately wanted to go anyway).

I guess we'll find out soon enough, whether we want to or not.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 14, 2017, 12:16:07 AM
Not that well, judging on the output of Soldado, Lamela, Capoue, Chiriches, Paulinho and Chadli. Eriksen worked out for them. They also finished a position lower in the league the season after selling Bale, in a much less competitive league than the current situation.

They also sold Bale to Spain.  Keep Rom, fight for CL and absent that count on salary inflation/World Cup keeping prices high.

Plus, whichever giant club buys him will surely immediately extend his contract.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 14, 2017, 12:19:44 AM
Not like Everton have a for sale board hanging around any players neck though is it ? Everton don't have to sell, but if any player indicates they won't sign and buy into the future of the club (which is a business) then it makes sense to move on.


That's one perspective, yes. And it's a reasonable, justifiable one. Just not one I agree with. He's got two years left. If we've got money now, keep him for another year, sell him for £40-50m next summer, if he still wants to leave then. If you get in the CL next season, by keeping one of the most bankable strikers in Europe and surrounding him with other class players, you will make up that shortfall in an instant.

There's no way in the world (imo) that he will sulk with the World Cup next summer. Belgium have got too many forwards for him to sack the season off and assume he's in their team.

I'm amazed how relaxed some are about possibly losing him. He's absolutely central to everything we do, and has been involved in over half of the goals we score. Where are all these bankable forwards that people assume we're going to replace him with, and not only stay as good, but actually improve? I'll tell you where they are, barring a scouting miracle, they are playing at richer, more successful clubs or going to richer, more successful clubs.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on April 14, 2017, 12:23:17 AM
Listen it's all well and good him not signing a new deal, he's still under contract and we dont have to sell, whoever wants him is gonna have to dig deep, not saying a world record fee like but shouldn't be far off
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 14, 2017, 12:27:23 AM

I'm amazed how relaxed some are about possibly losing him. He's absolutely central to everything we do, and has been involved in over half of the goals we score. Where are all these bankable forwards that people assume we're going to replace him with, and not only stay as good, but actually improve? I'll tell you where they are, barring a scouting miracle, they are playing at richer, more successful clubs or going to richer, more successful clubs.

Some people, for whatever daft reasons, don't like him, and so they rationalize that we can get on without him.  But everything we do as a football club revolves around Romelu Lukaku up top.  He's the one indispensable man (along with maybe Morgan Schneiderlin, as we've recently seen).

We have nothing remotely close to a replacement, and next season would be a full rebuild without him.  With a poor fit in the transfer market, it could be a fucking disaster (we go out very early in Europa, struggle to even get top half of the table).
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 14, 2017, 12:35:29 AM
Who could we possibly replace him with that would come anywhere near his output? Belotti? Off to a bigger club than us. Lacazette? Said he'll only leave Lyon for a CL club. Dembele?  A talented kid playing in a pub league. Any suggestions out there?  Don't forget we're looking to improve and jump ahead of three other clubs that will likely be spending massively themselves in the summer. I just think it's madness. As well as Koeman's done, if Rom had picked up one vaguely serious injury this season, there's every chance we'd be 9th or 10th in the league.

And not only that, but we'd be directly strengthening a team above us, just because people's feelings are a bit hurt that a kid from Belgium hasn't spent his entire life dreaming of playing for Everton.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 14, 2017, 12:36:57 AM
Look what happened to the shite when they sold their world class striker. Couldn't replace him. And even Sterling who was great that season they finished second.

Their front three now don't hold a candle to what they had. And their goals output has dropped in half. And they're a world name.

We're never going to find an adequate replacement for Lukaku. For once, we hold the cards in this.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ross on April 14, 2017, 12:37:18 AM
The Lukaku situation wouldn't be half as bad if Barkleys contract had of been settled already instead of being put on the back burner for whatever reason. But we've now managed to sleep walk into possibly the worst position and face losing two of our star players in the same window.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Shogun on April 14, 2017, 12:41:25 AM
Still think there's a good chance he'll be staying.

If he bangs in another 20+ league goals next season then he'll still be in high demand and we'd get £35m+ whilst he certainly won't down tools in a world cup year.

You never know, we might finish top 4 next season (or better) and convince him to stay.

Whatever happens, it's clear who holds the cards.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: van der Meyde on April 14, 2017, 12:45:49 AM
That's one perspective, yes. And it's a reasonable, justifiable one. Just not one I agree with. He's got two years left. If we've got money now, keep him for another year, sell him for £40-50m next summer, if he still wants to leave then. If you get in the CL next season, by keeping one of the most bankable strikers in Europe and surrounding him with other class players, you will make up that shortfall in an instant.
I agree with everything you've said and that's the way I would do it too, but it's very much reliant on him staying fit.

From the club's business perspective, it's a difficult choice between a guaranteed £30m now and the brief glimmer in a very competitive league that we might finish top 4 and earn a lot more...
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 14, 2017, 12:49:45 AM
The Lukaku situation wouldn't be half as bad if Barkleys contract had of been settled already instead of being put on the back burner for whatever reason. But we've now managed to sleep walk into possibly the worst position and face losing two of our star players in the same window.

Which is why we MUST hold onto Rom.  You are looking at replacing an attack led by Rom and Ross to one led by Mirallas and "ready for MLS" version of Rooney.  Plus whatever mystery person we bring in.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 14, 2017, 12:54:08 AM
I would be heartbroken if Ross goes.  But add Sigurdsson, VVD and ?? at CB, keep Rom, we'd still have a chance at Top 4.  Especially once Bolasie comes back in the mix.

Minus Rom, we have fuckall.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 14, 2017, 12:55:15 AM
I agree with everything you've said and that's the way I would do it too, but it's very much reliant on him staying fit.

From the club's business perspective, it's a difficult choice between a guaranteed £30m now and the brief glimmer in a very competitive league that we might finish top 4 and earn a lot more...

Yep, it's a case of weighing it up. Arsenal are supposedly asking for £35m for Oxlaide-Chamberlain with one year left on his deal, so I have every faith that we'd easily get £40m plus for Rom next summer, if needs be.

The only way I could see selling him this summer being remotely justifiable is if we could agree a deal for a top striker before he leaves. If we sell him, and are then left pissing in the wind, trying desperately to convince players to come to us, like last summer, and failing because we're 7th and have just lost our best player, then you have the potential for us going backwards and completely undermining the entire Moshiri project.

We're being told how ambitious we are. Demonstrate it. Flex our muscles, tell Rom to crack on with scoring goals, honour his contract, and sign some other excellent players this summer. To me, that seems a much more likely route to Top 4 than the alternative.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 14, 2017, 12:56:12 AM
I agree with everything you've said and that's the way I would do it too, but it's very much reliant on him staying fit.

From the club's business perspective, it's a difficult choice between a guaranteed £30m now and the brief glimmer in a very competitive league that we might finish top 4 and earn a lot more...

I'd put our Top 4 odds around 15-20%.  That's as good as they'll be in a long time, realistically speaking...
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: sam of the south on April 14, 2017, 01:01:19 AM
I would love to keep him, sign better players to play around him, get into the Champions League, and then he decides to sign a new contract, and we really kick-on.

Reality is rarely like that for football clubs that aren't part of the elite, though.

If Lukaku doesn't want to sign a new contract, he wants to leave.

As soon as the season is finished.

And, much to my constant irritation, if an elite player wants to leave a non-elite club and join an elite club, he always gets his wish.

It sucks, big-time.

But modern day football is capitalism.

And capitalism is a right cunt unless you're part of the big boys club.

Identifying top targets and alternatives, and tapping them up, and getting them in before Lukaku leaves will be the most beneficial scenario.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ross on April 14, 2017, 01:05:17 AM
Which is why we MUST hold onto Rom.  You are looking at replacing an attack led by Rom and Ross to one led by Mirallas and "ready for MLS" version of Rooney.  Plus whatever mystery person we bring in.

Moshiri is an accountant. There's no way he's going to let his biggest asset devalue by at least half if Lukaku and his agent have gave a definitive answer. Which according to Koeman today it seems like they have now.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 14, 2017, 01:15:10 AM
Interesting debate anyway. No doubt similar conversations are being held in the corridors of power at Goodison.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: sirblue57 on April 14, 2017, 01:23:27 AM
i love rom, and would be gutted to see him go. however, if we can get the players to score throughout the team,like the 85 team, then we should still do well. as a goal scorer he is superb, but his link up play and overall contribution could be better, and will improve as he gets older.

but if we only lose him, but get quality players who WANT to play for Everton, we will be ok.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 14, 2017, 01:26:00 AM
This is old news. It's the same won't be signing as it was a month ago. It's only been mentioned again by koeman in relation to the drogba "I know a secret" nonsense
In terms of what we should do now if he's not going to sign.... we should absolutely sell him asap for as much as we can. I actually like lukaku now. He's been very good this season. Scored more goals but more importantly worked harder, held the ball up better, been more physical and wiser in his movement under koeman. Hes been close to the player he's always thought he was. We can't keep a player who wants to move that's not healthy and it's really not practical to lose 30 or 40m on a transfer either.
If he wants to go we move him on and have faith that koeman and Walsh can find a great replacement
As for affecting our ability to attract players... it really won't. We are where we are. We're still a great option for anyone that might not be able to go to and definitely play for 1 of the 11 or 12 sides better and richer than us and regardless of the sale everyone knows we aren't as attractive as Chelsea.
Been a wonderful season in terms of progress. Every aspect of the club seems to have improved. Of lukaku leaves the sky won't fall in.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 14, 2017, 01:27:51 AM
I would love to keep him, sign better players to play around him, get into the Champions League, and then he decides to sign a new contract, and we really kick-on.

Reality is rarely like that for football clubs that aren't part of the elite, though.

If Lukaku doesn't want to sign a new contract, he wants to leave.

As soon as the season is finished.

And, much to my constant irritation, if an elite player wants to leave a non-elite club and join an elite club, he always gets his wish.

It sucks, big-time.

But modern day football is capitalism.

And capitalism is a right cunt unless you're part of the big boys club.

Identifying top targets and alternatives, and tapping them up, and getting them in before Lukaku leaves will be the most beneficial scenario.

I can understand that point, but am not sure we will get to this point on the win curve (where we are this comparatively un-disadvantaged) in the near future.  So, I want us to push what chips we have to the middle.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Daveypefc on April 14, 2017, 01:29:38 AM
Lets cut to the chase, Rom leaving the club is a disaster, but on the flip side to keep supporters on side we will end up getting an over priced marquee signing which may attract others to come to the club, right now our prized asset doesnt believe the ambitions of the club and it really must be sending out the wrong message.

My guess would be rooney,(free) a marquee signing(vvd), a solid signing (keane) and 2 potentials (strikers) , cant see us spending over £100m (including £60m for rom) this window
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 14, 2017, 01:38:44 AM
Lets cut to the chase, Rom leaving the club is a disaster, but on the flip side to keep supporters on side we will end up getting an over priced marquee signing which may attract others to come to the club, right now our prized asset doesnt believe the ambitions of the club and it really must be sending out the wrong message.

My guess would be rooney,(free) a marquee signing(vvd), a solid signing (keane) and 2 potentials (strikers) , cant see us spending over £100m (including £60m for rom) this window

It's not about "not believing the ambitions of the club" he's not wanting to go to West Ham or even spurs. He wants to go play for the champions who are 1 of the top 6 or 7 teams in the world. You can believe Everton have a very good future and that Chelsea are and probably will be for the next 10 years better than us. It doesn't have to be either or
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Daveypefc on April 14, 2017, 01:42:07 AM
It's not about "not believing the ambitions of the club" he's not wanting to go to West Ham or even spurs. He wants to go play for the champions who are 1 of the top 6 or 7 teams in the world. You can believe Everton have a very good future and that Chelsea are and probably will be for the next 10 years better than us. It doesn't have to be either or

But how many times have we been told that the club has shown their plans with Rom , if he keeps saying no, our plans may not be as big as we hope they are...
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 14, 2017, 01:45:20 AM
But how many times have we been told that the club has shown their plans with Rom , if he keeps saying no, our plans may not be as big as we hope they are...

Did anyone think they were as big as chelseas? At best it will be that we hope to be where Chelsea are within 5 years
If I told you i hoped to look like Angelina Jolie in 5 years would you bum me or Angelina Jolie?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Daveypefc on April 14, 2017, 01:50:55 AM
Did anyone think they were as big as chelseas? At best it will be that we hope to be where Chelsea are within 5 years
If I told you i hoped to look like Angelina Jolie in 5 years would you bum me or Angelina Jolie?

Not to sure how to answer that to be honest, just going to have to re read this thread to see how we got from evertons ambitions to bumming a fake Angelina jolie...
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 14, 2017, 01:51:33 AM
But how many times have we been told that the club has shown their plans with Rom , if he keeps saying no, our plans may not be as big as we hope they are...

Maybe our plans will take longer to achieve than what his plans will take?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Daveypefc on April 14, 2017, 01:53:56 AM
Maybe our plans will take longer to achieve than what his plans will take?

That maybe the case
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ross on April 14, 2017, 02:02:08 AM
Not to sure how to answer that to be honest, just going to have to re read this thread to see how we got from evertons ambitions to bumming a fake Angelina jolie...

Watch yourself here Dave I've seen an episode on Panorama that looks awfully familiar to this.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 14, 2017, 02:11:05 AM
There's nothing left to say that hasn't already been said now.

May as well lock the thread until the end of the season.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: sam of the south on April 14, 2017, 02:22:48 AM
I can understand that point, but am not sure we will get to this point on the win curve (where we are this comparatively un-disadvantaged) in the near future.  So, I want us to push what chips we have to the middle.

I think I agree.

But what I'm saying is if a big-time player wants to leave, he invariably does.

Sharpish.

And I'm not talking potential, like John Stones.

I mean top-level, like Bale, Ronaldo, Suarez, Thomas Gravesen.

When they really wanted to leave, they did.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blue slug on April 14, 2017, 03:01:25 AM
If he ain't going to sign no point keeping him another year, he won't want to be here so won't be as productive, he'll be gone this summer for a massive fee, it's not ideal but we're Everton and we will keep on progressing under moshiri and koeman in the long term
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Everton Mint on April 14, 2017, 03:26:48 AM
We've had 4 seasons with Lukaku and we are still not qualifying for the CL (next season). Plus we have now 6 teams with superior squads ahead of us to compete with for 4 places..

Being realistic, unfortunately our time has run out in getting Lukaku what he wants and he has decided he cant give us any longer.

We had our chance with him and now its time for both to move on. Him to his CL team and us with a wad of money to strengthen the whole team.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on April 14, 2017, 03:38:10 AM
No one else thinking that it will be extra difficult to attract players capable of getting us in the Champions League if we sell Lukaku and/or Barkley?

What sort of message does that send to potential signings, that we're trying to convince to come to us over other big, rich clubs? I'd be thinking ''they keep going on about ambition but they're selling the top scorer in the league to a team above them, and they're letting their best homegrown player go to another team above them. No chance''.

i doubt most footballers can thing that coherently to come up with all those points especially when they see they will be signing a contact worth about  5m pounds per year.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jamokachi on April 14, 2017, 08:19:17 AM
Of course it may boil down to the ambition we show in the summer. If we go out and sign a couple of world class names early doors it might be that show of ambition that Lukaku was referring to, and he might realise how serious a project we are.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ramjam on April 14, 2017, 12:19:31 PM
I can't see the problem here, HE (Lukaku) agreed the contract along with Everton,  it has two years left to run, we hold the cards/contract, He is our player end of story, he plays for us within the contract agreement unless both parties agree otherwise. So if Chelsea want to match our asking price they can have him, if they don't they can be the ones trying to replace their CF/Costa , Its not really that hard. Price him out of the market at £100m and let's see how serious these cunts really are.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 14, 2017, 01:59:30 PM
I can't see the problem here, HE (Lukaku) agreed the contract along with Everton,  it has two years left to run, we hold the cards/contract, He is our player end of story, he plays for us within the contract agreement unless both parties agree otherwise. So if Chelsea want to match our asking price they can have him, if they don't they can be the ones trying to replace their CF/Costa , Its not really that hard. Price him out of the market at £100m and let's see how serious these cunts really are.

It's really not as simple as that though is it. We can price him out of a move today but his value will decline rapidly from then on. If he wants to go we really have to find an agreement that suits everyone rather than dig our heals in and lose 35m on him in 1 year and 70 plus in 2.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: pjk on April 14, 2017, 02:42:35 PM
From what I can see we will try to tie him down to a new contract. If he doesn't sign it, he will be gone by the latest, summer 2018 and even as early as summer 2017. likely scenario if both sides dig their heels in? It will carry on along till the january window of 2018 when he will be sold. For what price? It definitely depends on what he/we achieve from here on in. The one thing that can disrupt all the scenarios available is a serious injury. It would be interesting to see how things would pan out if that were to occur. I'd hate to see him go. It looks like he's made his mind up and the crap coming from Drogba only enforces that belief. I think he'll be gone in the summer. :(
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Paddockoldie on April 14, 2017, 03:34:12 PM
I reckon Chelsea will be linked with other strikers such as Morata etc and hope Lukaku sees his chances of joining them slipping so he puts in a transfer request... bit like the Stones situation. At present he just isn't signing but if they can get him to ask for a move it's starts the ball rolling..... his agent will deffo be doing plans behind the scenes. It's up to us how this ends though.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on April 14, 2017, 03:40:49 PM
It's really not as simple as that though is it. We can price him out of a move today but his value will decline rapidly from then on. If he wants to go we really have to find an agreement that suits everyone rather than dig our heals in and lose 35m on him in 1 year and 70 plus in 2.

I'd gladly pay £35m to guarantee 25+ goals in all comps next season.
From that line of thought I'd happily lose £35m in a tradable asset.

He wants to win leagues/champs leagues though. So even winning the Europa and finishing 4th next year wouldn't be enough for him
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on April 14, 2017, 03:41:00 PM
Just hope we're already actively looking for his replacement
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 14, 2017, 04:13:52 PM
I'd gladly pay £35m to guarantee 25+ goals in all comps next season.
From that line of thought I'd happily lose £35m in a tradable asset.

He wants to win leagues/champs leagues though. So even winning the Europa and finishing 4th next year wouldn't be enough for him

Your 35m or someone else's? I'd assume we'd be confident that we've got the people in place to find the players to take us forward with that money rather than just piss it away on the short term
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: charlatan on April 14, 2017, 05:53:31 PM
But who turned them down? I remember they had that charlatan as their DoF.

I've never even been to White Hart Lane lid, let alone worked there
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: School of Science on April 14, 2017, 06:08:27 PM
Just hope we're already actively looking for his replacement

That is the exact point, we should not let him go until we have his replacement in. Sorry Rom but fuck you our great club comes first.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on April 14, 2017, 08:31:06 PM
Your 35m or someone else's? I'd assume we'd be confident that we've got the people in place to find the players to take us forward with that money rather than just piss it away on the short term

Look, let's get this straight. There are zero replacements for Lukaku.
He is going to be the leagues top scorer.

There best we can hope for is someone who is gonna grab 15,16,17 goals next year.
And he'll probably cost over £20m anyway.

Thankfully we don't win many games by 1 goal when lukaku scores - he mainly kills games off. So i don't think we'd suffer too much without him.

But I'd prefer to spend money this summer strengthening other areas than chasing a replacement for the 1 star we have.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Everton Mint on April 14, 2017, 08:50:15 PM
It will be interesting to see how many of the elite clubs (Madrid's, Barca, Bayern, Juve) come in for him in the Summer .

This will show how highly-rated Lukaku really is. Then we can see what his true value is and whether we need to sell sooner, or later.

If the top boys do want him then lets have a bidding war and get some crazy money.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 14, 2017, 09:05:50 PM
Man U can't buy a goal at the minute, Mourinho is publicly digging out his players again and have pots of money.
I'd say it's more likely he goes there to be with mate Pogba.

I'd take Rashford in return but they won't have it.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 14, 2017, 09:25:26 PM
Man U can't buy a goal at the minute, Mourinho is publicly digging out his players again and have pots of money.
I'd say it's more likely he goes there to be with mate Pogba.

I'd take Rashford in return but they won't have it.


If Man U want him, then based on what they paid for Pogba, I'd want at least half a billion off of them for Rom.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 14, 2017, 09:33:57 PM
Look, let's get this straight. There are zero replacements for Lukaku.
He is going to be the leagues top scorer.

There best we can hope for is someone who is gonna grab 15,16,17 goals next year.
And he'll probably cost over £20m anyway.

Thankfully we don't win many games by 1 goal when lukaku scores - he mainly kills games off. So i don't think we'd suffer too much without him.

But I'd prefer to spend money this summer strengthening other areas than chasing a replacement for the 1 star we have.

He's not irreplaceable. It's not like it's Lionel Messi and he came through our youth system. We signed lukaku when we were financially worse off. We can't sign a proven at the same level replacement but why can't we find the next lukaku we managed to sign the last 1. If he wants to go then sell and move on. Forcing him to stay won't help anyone. Get a massive fee and invest it in players that want to be here.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: pjk on April 14, 2017, 09:35:06 PM
Get a massive fee and give Monaco an offer they can't refuse for Mbappe.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 14, 2017, 09:39:55 PM
Get a massive fee and give Monaco an offer they can't refuse for Mbappe.

Think we'll be well down that queue. Can see him ending up at Barca, real or Bayern.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: pjk on April 14, 2017, 09:43:15 PM
Think we'll be well down that queue. Can see him ending up at Barca, real or Bayern.



It makes it all feel better knowing they are out there.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jay on April 14, 2017, 09:45:50 PM
This is the thing for me. I am a big fan of Lukaku (flaws and all) and from that standpoint, don't want him to go. However, if he is definitively not going to sign a contract and could potentially end up just running his contract down should the club dig it's heels in, then from this standpoint, then I want him to go in the summer.
Don't get me wrong, if he leaves, then I would say thanks for all the goals and wish him well. But, for me, if it becomes a case of sell Lukaku and reinvest in 2 or 3 players in various positions, who, whilst not being at the same level of Lukaku, will then in the wider scheme of things, contribute more as a team so it is not such a reliance on one player, then I am behind that 100%.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jay on April 14, 2017, 09:48:10 PM


It makes it all feel better knowing they are out there.
Having read that he is a Real Madrid fan and his idol is Cristiano Ronaldo, you would have to think that it wouldnt be a hard guess as to where he will go should he move.

Cracking player though
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 14, 2017, 10:43:09 PM
Get a massive fee and give Monaco an offer they can't refuse for Mbappe.

Tis wishful thinking, but a nice thought for sure.  Monaco sure were stylish as fuck on Wednesday.

Also, I don't get the "flaws and all" line of logic with Lukaku.  His flaws are know completely a matter of nitpicking.  He's arguably the best player in the Prem this season, and might still be getting better.  We won't see anyone this amazing in Blue for another 20 years, in all likelihood.  I want to squeeze every season we can out of having him here.

Well worth the risk, in my view.  2017-18 could be absolutely amazing, or it could be a shitshow.  That's about 80% dependent on having Rom in the fold.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on April 15, 2017, 05:59:57 PM
So Karen Brady has wrote in her column that they have tried to buy lukaku off us twice recently. He turned them down as he wanted guaranteed champions league football.

She ends with "shame he sees such an admirable club as a stop-gap".


One thing about this though - how did lukaku reject them unless we gave him permission to speak to them?

Have the rules about tapping up just been openly and officially abandoned nowadays?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 15, 2017, 06:04:49 PM
Why the fuck would he go to West Ham. Its pretty much a fake bid. They might as well show their ambition by trying to sign Messi before ending up with no one
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 15, 2017, 06:05:58 PM
So Karen Brady has wrote in her column that they have tried to buy lukaku off us twice recently. He turned them down as he wanted guaranteed champions league football.

She ends with "shame he sees such an admirable club as a stop-gap".


One thing about this though - how did lukaku reject them unless we gave him permission to speak to them?

Have the rules about tapping up just been openly and officially abandoned nowadays?

His agent also claimed he was 99.9999% certain he was going to sign a contract. People's words mean very little, plus they lie.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: cantoffee on April 15, 2017, 06:34:36 PM
So Karen Brady has wrote in her column that they have tried to buy lukaku off us twice recently. He turned them down as he wanted guaranteed champions league football.

She ends with "shame he sees such an admirable club as a stop-gap".


One thing about this though - how did lukaku reject them unless we gave him permission to speak to them?

Have the rules about tapping up just been openly and officially abandoned nowadays?
Agents do the talking. Probably knows what Lukaku wants in order to leave us.

He'll want guaranteed CL football otherwise there is little point in leaving us. Despite wanting to leave to further his career he knows he has it as good here and we can probably pay him more than anyone if we were worried about that.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on April 15, 2017, 07:12:47 PM
So Karen Brady has wrote in her column that they have tried to buy lukaku off us twice recently. He turned them down as he wanted guaranteed champions league football.

She ends with "shame he sees such an admirable club as a stop-gap".


One thing about this though - how did lukaku reject them unless we gave him permission to speak to them?

Have the rules about tapping up just been openly and officially abandoned nowadays?

Think Ashley Cole was the last time I can remember anyone high profile getting done.

There's no point anyway as it's all done through 3rd parties.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on April 15, 2017, 08:01:00 PM
West Ham twice tried to sign Lukaku from us?

That act needs to be a new description of the word 'delusional' in the Oxford English Dictionary.


Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Trowel on April 15, 2017, 08:47:44 PM
And no surprise which paper Karren Brady writes her column for...
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ridge on April 15, 2017, 09:46:48 PM
What it could mean is that they twice spoke to Raiola, who both times said Rom wouldn't be interested. The situation in football is that a club can know what a player is thinking, via his agent.

This is the sort of thing you only make public when you have no strikers and the striker is on for the golden boot. Look we tried to sign him, that would have been good eh?

But it does indicate that either they were aware of a release clause they considered matching or a price tag they knew of. But I wouldn't be entirely surprised if there is more to it than just a couple of phone calls. I wonder if they ended up with highest bid on the table and last option standing and that prompted Rom's 180 degree turn and decision to commit to stay with us for another season.

West Ham board is loose lipped self promtionists, but I'm not sure they would talk about a couple of rejection phone calls as potential business. They may have been used by Mino to drive up price and interest, before it was called off. But we were obviously talking to them, as we took Valencia off them in january as well.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 15, 2017, 10:25:12 PM

West Ham board is loose lipped self promtionists, but I'm not sure they would talk about a couple of rejection phone calls as potential business.

You given the porn barons and Tory moron too much credit. They did it to appease their fans that they are supposedly going after top players. It's been a common theme of their stewardship.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Trowel on April 15, 2017, 10:36:24 PM
Can we just round that up to £200k and play without a keeper?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: MexicanToffee on April 15, 2017, 11:06:26 PM
You given the porn barons and Tory moron too much credit. They did it to appease their fans that they are supposedly going after top players. It's been a common theme of their stewardship.

They also bid for Ronaldo, Messi, Suarez, Neymar and Bale but they haven't been rejected yet so they are still hopeful.  :snigger: :snigger:
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on April 16, 2017, 03:19:10 AM
Sky making a big deal out of Lukaku not celebrating his goal, he fucking did, he also went mental went Jags scored

Fuck off
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 16, 2017, 05:16:43 AM
Sky making a big deal out of Lukaku not celebrating his goal, he fucking did, he also went mental went Jags scored

Fuck off
Even Michael Keane celebrated it.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 16, 2017, 07:46:19 AM
Sky making a big deal out of Lukaku not celebrating his goal, he fucking did, he also went mental went Jags scored

Fuck off

He celebrates the goals of others more than his own.  Always has.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: djws1788 on April 16, 2017, 02:00:58 PM
it seems as though he celebrates like "you knew it was coming". nothing wrong with that.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Brownie20 on April 16, 2017, 02:29:16 PM
It was a celebration. He stood there going 'look how bad ass I am.'
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 16, 2017, 02:44:14 PM
Tbh since these contract talks have stalled he has stopped celebrating his goals.
I'm not really arsed though, at least he's still scoring, unlike Sanchez who just acts like a dick when he's having contract issues and barely moves.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on April 16, 2017, 02:52:12 PM
Tbh since these contract talks have stalled he has stopped celebrating his goals.
I'm not really arsed though, at least he's still scoring, unlike Sanchez who just acts like a dick when he's having contract issues and barely moves.

Don't think that's true; think he's always celebrated some and acted "cool" for others.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: pjk on April 16, 2017, 03:20:45 PM
He deserved to act cool for his goal yesterday. It was a quality strikers, made from nothing sort of goal, that he made look easy. It was cool. If Sky don't like it, so fucking what. Lukaku is a fantastic striker. Anyone who says he isn't are chatting shit. As long as he keeps putting the ball in the net he can celebrate as he chooses. It's when he's got nothing to celebrate, that we should start whingeing.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 16, 2017, 03:32:18 PM
If showing no reaction, walking back to the half way line and maybe looking/pointing at the sky once or twice is 'acting cool'. Then ye, he's been 'acting cool' since all the contract stuff was made public.

Before that nearly every goal he scored had a proper celebration.

But, as I said, at least he's scoring, the contract situation hasn't affected his performance.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Silas on April 16, 2017, 03:36:28 PM
He's a perfectionist and I love that. He actually looked a bit grumpy at the end of the game after he missed his chance for a second. He celebrates with the team but is hard on himself. It's what is going to lead him to be one of the very best in my opinion
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 16, 2017, 04:35:32 PM
There's absolutely no way he's not celebrating. Even if we assume he's fucked off at Everton there's not a chance in hell he doesn't want to win the golden boot. I read it as an arogant this is what i do type no celebration celebration. He did a wee skip when jagielka scored. People read way too much into things. His workrate and physicality have been much improved this season. These are the things that would disappear if he was in a mood not some daft dance after a goal
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jamokachi on April 16, 2017, 06:03:06 PM
Body language experts out in force, I see
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 16, 2017, 06:18:50 PM
He's scored so much that he may even have got tired of scoring and he's saying please, it's too much scoring. I can't take it anymore.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Fynci on April 16, 2017, 06:41:29 PM
The press will be analysing those celebrations. Ross is staying. Rom is off. ;)

It was so obvious wasn't it?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 16, 2017, 06:45:33 PM
There's absolutely no way he's not celebrating.

There is, because he's not. But who's arsed.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on April 16, 2017, 06:52:58 PM
Like someone already said, he celebrates other players goals like mad, jumped on the back of jags yesterday, his goal celebration is to stand there staring at the crowd with his arms straight down, palms open saying "this is what I do, this is what I'm paid for"
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Trowel on April 16, 2017, 07:42:58 PM
Body language experts out in force, I see
Off to Burnley.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 16, 2017, 07:54:39 PM
There is, because he's not. But who's arsed.

Maybe we should demand 1 of them crappy Spurs handshakes or they just shout I'm incredibly happy just so we know. I celebrated a birthday this year. Without a jig or handshake. Somwhat like lukaku  nonchalantly
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 16, 2017, 08:10:31 PM
Maybe we should demand 1 of them crappy Spurs handshakes or they just shout I'm incredibly happy just so we know. I celebrated a birthday this year. Without a jig or handshake. Somwhat like lukaku  nonchalantly
Them spurs handshakes take Shit to a new low along with the shites hair product adverts...absolute garbage
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 16, 2017, 08:18:46 PM
Them spurs handshakes take Shit to a new low along with the shites hair product adverts...absolute garbage

You do wonder why a grown man with some much money and so many options how to spend their time would learn that shit. Then to find a like minded cunt to do it with.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 16, 2017, 08:29:37 PM
You do wonder why a grown man with some much money and so many options how to spend their time would learn that shit. Then to find a like minded cunt to do it with.
  They had a full fuckin piece on sky last saturday morning ..it was truly vomit inducing
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on April 16, 2017, 09:00:30 PM
I don't give shit about how he celebrates or not. As long as he keeps scoring.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 16, 2017, 10:54:02 PM
If we somehow win out, does Rom have a decent shot at Player of the Year?

I know if I was starting a club and could have anyone in the Prem on a five year contract, Rom is who I'd pick.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Goaljira on April 16, 2017, 10:55:20 PM
If we somehow win out, does Rom have a decent shot at Player of the Year?

I know if I was starting a club and could have anyone in the Prem on a five year contract, Rom is who I'd pick.

POTY voting was done months ago.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 16, 2017, 10:56:52 PM
POTY voting was done months ago.

Really?  That's a shame.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 18, 2017, 01:11:40 AM
100 million

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-want-100m-romelu-lukaku-12903927 (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-want-100m-romelu-lukaku-12903927)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Polledreng on April 18, 2017, 01:20:12 AM
The World has gone mad... then again if Pogba is 89 Lukaku is more than 100
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Alanvideo on April 18, 2017, 01:23:33 AM
...........and this Echo Exclusive  comes out at 7pm on a Bank Holiday ?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ross on April 18, 2017, 01:33:15 AM
Just the club trying to wrestle some control back from Lukaku and his agent.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 18, 2017, 01:40:50 AM
good on the club..
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 18, 2017, 01:45:54 AM
Just read it,   Exclusive my arse---------nothing in that at all.     
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Alanvideo on April 18, 2017, 02:06:32 AM
This is from a month ago........
http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/lukaku-refuses-to-accept-100m-everton-valuation-4173596
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: bigmanbob on April 18, 2017, 02:38:23 AM
This is from a month ago........
http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/lukaku-refuses-to-accept-100m-everton-valuation-4173596
It's got fuck all to do with him what we value him at
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: TheRam on April 18, 2017, 02:47:35 AM
Pricing him out of a move there.

Hes not worth 100mil and we know no one is going to pay that for him.

Next step is the transfer request.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: sam of the south on April 18, 2017, 02:53:28 AM
Pricing him out of a move there.

Hes not worth 100mil and we know no one is going to pay that for him.

Next step is the transfer request.

Yes, it will come to that, if we have put this evaluation out there (which I doubt)

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: School of Science on April 18, 2017, 02:54:42 AM
Pricing him out of a move there.

Hes not worth 100mil and we know no one is going to pay that for him.

Next step is the transfer request.

He's going to lose a lot of money if he does that.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueForYou on April 18, 2017, 02:55:55 AM
£100m

Let the bidding commence - if they want him, Chelsea, Utd or City will pay it
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blueToffee on April 18, 2017, 02:56:23 AM
Pricing him out of a move there.

Hes not worth 100mil and we know no one is going to pay that for him.

Next step is the transfer request.

Nah, it's no different to the crazy buyout clauses a lot of players have in Spain. We say 100, bid comes in for 60. We'd inch them up to 70...probably our actual valuation.

70 is probably ballpark in current market, especially if he finishes top scorer in the PL.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 18, 2017, 02:58:57 AM
Rom isn't worth 100, yet Pogba was worth 89? I know you shouldn't compare transfer values, but what the hell, in this case it warrants it.

If you use Pogba as a yardstick, I want half a billion for Rom.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Sir Stealth on April 18, 2017, 02:59:15 AM
Reckon possibly he will stay another season and then we will sell him for significantly less next summer with 1 year left

Brace yourselves for some international break interviews about how he should be playing Champions League Football

It's good that we are doing it on our terms really

The dream scenario is that he stays and fires us into the champs league and then realises that he can achieve everything with us and signs a new deal and stays for his entire career breaking Dixie Deans record along the way

Of course this won't happen and realistically he does need to move to make his dreams come true

Grim
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 18, 2017, 03:08:27 AM
Rom isn't worth 100, yet Pogba was worth 89? I know you shouldn't compare transfer values, but what the hell, in this case it warrants it.

If you use Pogba as a yardstick, I want half a billion for Rom.

Or Coleman? Makes him worth what? Third of a million maybe?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 18, 2017, 03:08:33 AM
Reckon possibly he will stay another season and then we will sell him for significantly less next summer with 1 year left

Brace yourselves for some international break interviews about how he should be playing Champions League Football

It's good that we are doing it on our terms really

The dream scenario is that he stays and fires us into the champs league and then realises that he can achieve everything with us and signs a new deal and stays for his entire career breaking Dixie Deans record along the way

Of course this won't happen and realistically he does need to move to make his dreams come true

Grim

I'd be happy with an extra season out of him with the hope we win something and/or get in CL and then only get 40 or 50 mill for him if he still wants to go. It'll be worth it financially and footballing.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 18, 2017, 03:09:58 AM
He needs to go if he wants to go. We need to get the most we can get and move on. Could end up losing 30-40m off the fee and have him sulking for a year if we don't find the middle ground
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 18, 2017, 03:19:11 AM
He needs to go if he wants to go. We need to get the most we can get and move on. Could end up losing 30-40m off the fee and have him sulking for a year if we don't find the middle ground

He won't sulk with the WC next summer.

If we get CL, what we will make will offset any loss in his transfer fee.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blueToffee on April 18, 2017, 03:25:41 AM
He needs to go if he wants to go. We need to get the most we can get and move on. Could end up losing 30-40m off the fee and have him sulking for a year if we don't find the middle ground

We're going into a World Cup year, and I don't think it's beyond impossible that he'd accept the fact we'd not sell this year and just knuckle down and get on with things as it does him no good to throw a strop once the season starts. Plus who knows which clubs would be in for him, and whether he is their first choice or not. We hear in some reports Chelsea want him, but also Conte prefers Morata (you could see why if he wants energy up top predominantly).

Depends on how much he wants to dig his heels in. If he wants to make it an unworkable situation, let's face it he can do, but he may just get on with it if the situation arises as he does seem pretty level headed. He has given himself wiggle room too as he didn't say I'm going at the end of the season (technically speaking) he just said he wasn't signing another deal. He still (currently) has the crowd with him too.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 18, 2017, 03:32:22 AM
wow what a can o woyums...
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 18, 2017, 03:39:56 AM
He won't sulk with the WC next summer.

If we get CL, what we will make will offset any loss in his transfer fee.

It's 1 hell of a big if. We could lose 40m or break even if we make the champions league. Seems like a lot of risk for little reward.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluebridge on April 18, 2017, 03:56:07 AM
It's 1 hell of a big if. We could lose 40m or break even if we make the champions league. Seems like a lot of risk for little reward.
I would'nt say Champions league was little reward.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Shogun on April 18, 2017, 04:04:00 AM
I hope we do everything in our power to keep him.

We've had our transitional season and unbelievably, we're not that far off the top four with five matches to go. If we invest as expected in the summer then we can achieve big things next season.

Or we sell Lukaku, sign someone to replace him who struggles to get going for a few months and have this conversation again next April.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Silas on April 18, 2017, 04:08:15 AM
That's my worry as well. If we want to progress we need to not be selling in dusty choice key players anywhere we don't absolutely have to.   
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blueToffee on April 18, 2017, 04:13:25 AM
IF we hadn't have got the recent investment, it'd likely be a no brainer and we'd be forced to sell and get the best price.

With our better financial footing, it becomes more reasonable proposition (providing the player doesn't spit his dummy out) that we take potential overall club growth into account. If we can keep him, show our ambition and attract some better players to play alongside it may be the more prudent long term financial choice to keep him another year.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Paddockoldie on April 18, 2017, 04:32:18 AM
Putting that fee on him could sour out relationship with him... it's like trapping him rather than accepting his decision that he wants out. It would have been more honest to tell him not for another season than agree BUT.... he'll put a request in I think. Watching the game yesterday I can't see him in either of those teams. Rashford was proper pacey and a different type of striker... saying that Costs was shite so he could replace him I guess but not at that price..
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 18, 2017, 04:33:44 AM
It's 1 hell of a big if. We could lose 40m or break even if we make the champions league. Seems like a lot of risk for little reward.

But we'd be in the champions league.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Shropshire Blue on April 18, 2017, 04:42:16 AM
He needs to go if he wants to go. We need to get the most we can get and move on. Could end up losing 30-40m off the fee and have him sulking for a year if we don't find the middle ground
There's no evidence he sulks.  His attitude on the pitch has been excellent and he acknowledges he can improve areas of his game. I'd love to think he will stay another season and possibly get top 4 and then see if he still wants to go. If we make that step up then, given the age of some in our squad, it could only be as a developing team that might have a the nucleus to take us on 4 or 5 seasons - like Ferguson had at Man U.
Also, from Rom''s point of view, he is both giving us a nudge to go for it now and saying what he will want next year.
It's his career and I think he's handling it well and we have to accept that time for him to play at the top is limited, even without injuries, whereas we are here for life and can afford to wait.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on April 18, 2017, 04:58:12 AM
There's no evidence he sulks.  His attitude on the pitch has been excellent and he acknowledges he can improve areas of his game. I'd love to think he will stay another season and possibly get top 4 and then see if he still wants to go. If we make that step up then, given the age of some in our squad, it could only be as a developing team that might have a the nucleus to take us on 4 or 5 seasons - like Ferguson had at Man U.
Also, from Rom''s point of view, he is both giving us a nudge to go for it now and saying what he will want next year.
It's his career and I think he's handling it well and we have to accept that time for him to play at the top is limited, even without injuries, whereas we are here for life and can afford to wait.

Brilliant post.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: trueevertonianpaul on April 18, 2017, 05:18:45 AM
If lukaku wants out. Just sell him to a club not in the premier league. There are plenty of cl clubs around. Don't improve our rivals, simple. Sell him for no less than 80 mill or he stays another year.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on April 18, 2017, 05:19:39 AM
If lukaku wants out. Just sell him to a club not in the premier league. There are plenty of cl clubs around. Don't improve our rivals, simple. Sell him for no less than 80 mill or he stays another year.

So who, not in the PRemier League can afford 80M pounds for Lukaku that would want him....
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 18, 2017, 05:25:09 AM
He won't sulk with the WC next summer.

If we get CL, what we will make will offset any loss in his transfer fee.

Glad to have you on board the "one more year" train!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 18, 2017, 05:26:22 AM
Glad to have you on board the "one more year" train!

Toot toot!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 18, 2017, 05:40:11 AM
I would'nt say Champions league was little reward.

I'm talking financially. Best case is we make up what we lose on lukaku by qualifying for the champions league (which is unlikely anyway)
I really don't think we can afford to just write off 40m on a player. People keep saying lukaku is irreplaceable but it's a hell of a lot easier to build with 75m then it is with half of it. If he's going regardless and rather we cut the cord and got the big fee.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 18, 2017, 05:45:44 AM
Even if he doesn't sulk would anyone advercate a year loan for a player at 40m plus wages cos financially that's the same thing (assuming he's no intention of signing)
I'd sooner we deal with the problem today (with 80m) than put it off and have to deal with a bigger problem 12 months later
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: TheRam on April 18, 2017, 05:55:17 AM
Even if he doesn't sulk would anyone advercate a year loan for a player at 40m plus wages cos financially that's the same thing (assuming he's no intention of signing)
I'd sooner we deal with the problem today (with 80m) than put it off and have to deal with a bigger problem 12 months later


Wot
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 18, 2017, 05:58:20 AM
Is this just a click bait headline or has the club actually confirmed officially this is the figure they have put on his head?

Looks to me like a slow news day story with no substance.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on April 18, 2017, 05:59:43 AM
Is this just a click bait headline or has the club actually confirmed officially this is the figure they have put on his head?

Looks to me like a slow news day story with no substance.

Read the original post my friend. It was from a month ago.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 18, 2017, 06:19:18 AM
I think that's exactly what I would want from the club. They want to keep him before all else, and if we are to lose him then we expect massive remuneration in return.

I think it's to price him out of a move and it's a strategy I fully support and agree with.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 18, 2017, 06:40:52 AM
I'm talking financially. Best case is we make up what we lose on lukaku by qualifying for the champions league (which is unlikely anyway)
I really don't think we can afford to just write off 40m on a player. People keep saying lukaku is irreplaceable but it's a hell of a lot easier to build with 75m then it is with half of it. If he's going regardless and rather we cut the cord and got the big fee.
Yeah but it's much more exciting seeing us score 60 plus goals a season and have a good chance of winning something than to sell now and spend the next season transitioning yet again and standing still.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 18, 2017, 06:45:09 AM
I suppose if he hands a transfer request in then he will lose his loyalty bonus, so it's not a bad tactic from the club.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 18, 2017, 06:56:38 AM
Yeah but it's much more exciting seeing us score 60 plus goals a season and have a good chance of winning something than to sell now and spend the next season transitioning yet again and standing still.

There's a lot of indirect financial value in achieving a season like that, too.  It's not just raw sentiment.  And keeping your "once in a generation" (really several generations) superstar an extra year is in now way equivalent to a massive one-year loan fee.  You know, barring injury, exactly what you're getting.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ridge on April 18, 2017, 09:25:26 AM
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on April 18, 2017, 10:46:26 AM

That's an awesome video. Explained and shown.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on April 18, 2017, 12:44:18 PM
So who, not in the PRemier League can afford 80M pounds for Lukaku that would want him....

PSG, Bayern ?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Hesmenos on April 18, 2017, 01:25:22 PM
Did Big Dunc teach him that?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on April 18, 2017, 02:03:30 PM
PSG, Bayern ?

Bayern have Lewandowski so won't want Lukaku. PSG maybe, granted. Would Lukaku go there? Time will tell.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on April 18, 2017, 02:10:27 PM
Bayern have Lewandowski so won't want Lukaku. PSG maybe, granted. Would Lukaku go there? Time will tell.

Although his command of the English language is excellent I feel that culturally he is more closely aligned to the French culture and would feel quite comfortable in Paris.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 18, 2017, 02:11:07 PM
Although his command of the English language is excellent I feel that culturally he is more closely aligned to the French culture and would feel quite comfortable in Paris.

fluent in about 5 languages as well

"Lukaku, 23, speaks Dutch, French, Spanish, Portuguese, English and also understands German."
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Toddacelli on April 18, 2017, 02:12:46 PM
If lukaku wants out. Just sell him to a club not in the premier league. There are plenty of cl clubs around. Don't improve our rivals, simple. Sell him for no less than 80 mill or he stays another year.

If we sell him at all it won't improve our rivals because our rivals will be Stoke, Southampton, WBA, Watford, Brighton...
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on April 18, 2017, 03:29:22 PM
fluent in about 5 languages as well

"Lukaku, 23, speaks Dutch, French, Spanish, Portuguese, English and also understands German."

Sure he speaks Flemish too? Nee. That would be strange.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: ally2 on April 18, 2017, 04:19:56 PM
fluent in about 5 languages as well

"Lukaku, 23, speaks Dutch, French, Spanish, Portuguese, English and also understands German."

He also fluent in bullshit. An essential skill when you're being managed by Roberto Martinez.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 18, 2017, 05:25:16 PM
Bayern have Lewandowski so won't want Lukaku. PSG maybe, granted. Would Lukaku go there? Time will tell.

PSG aren't even guaranteed to win their own mickey mouse league, with unlimited funds at their disposal. He'd be a fool to go there.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 18, 2017, 05:26:15 PM
Although his command of the English language is excellent I feel that culturally he is more closely aligned to the French culture and would feel quite comfortable in Paris.

WTF??
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Dr. Sponge on April 18, 2017, 05:29:14 PM
Slightly off topic, but I hate it when players don't celebrate after they've scored. He does this.

As you were...
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on April 18, 2017, 05:50:52 PM
Sure he speaks Flemish too? Nee. That would be strange.

Think they've just counted that as Dutch.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 18, 2017, 05:53:25 PM
His English is far better than Koeman's. Quite surprised how poor Koeman's English is for a Dutch bloke.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 18, 2017, 05:55:12 PM
His English is far better than Koeman's. Quite surprised how poor Koeman's English is for a Dutch bloke.

Who wants to brush up on your language skills when you're on holiday.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ross on April 18, 2017, 05:58:04 PM
His English is far better than Koeman's. Quite surprised how poor Koeman's English is for a Dutch bloke.

Koemans English is Okay..
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 18, 2017, 05:59:38 PM
Koemans English is Okay..
It's not fantastic though. Normally the Dutch speak fantastic English.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Redartin on April 18, 2017, 06:10:39 PM
Does he understand Geordie, maybe Rafa will buy him.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Fynci on April 18, 2017, 06:22:08 PM
His English is far better than Koeman's. Quite surprised how poor Koeman's English is for a Dutch bloke.

It's as good as Steve McLaren's Dutch.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Alanvideo on April 18, 2017, 06:25:38 PM
It's as good as Steve McLaren's Dutch.
............and it's dos or tres times better than Moyes's Spanish  :snigger:
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KingdingalingNL on April 18, 2017, 08:36:50 PM
It's as good as Steve McLaren's Dutch.

He was just embarrassing in interviews on Dutch tv!!! He spoke slowly and with a weird accent, but just made him look stupid! Van Gaal was brilliant in Germany he spoke Dutch with a German accent!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on April 18, 2017, 09:55:46 PM
Koemans English is Okay..

Just about o.k. But like Blargs I am surprised that his English is not better, they grow up watching BBC, I have many Dutch friends and colleagues all of whom are far more fluent, not that it matters like, he gets through a pressed o.k.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on April 18, 2017, 10:04:11 PM
WTF??

Con said in his response to me saying that PSG could afford "Would he want to go there?" I am suggesting that he would certainly fit in with the culture more so than perhaps London, he is forever jumping on Eurostar to either Brussels or Paris. Note sure if it warrants your response but WTF !
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Major Clanger on April 18, 2017, 10:42:06 PM
Think they've just counted that as Dutch.

If we count Geordie as English, we have to count Flemish as Dutch too :)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 18, 2017, 11:15:02 PM
Well worth a listen :

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-royal-blue-podcast-romelu-12909563
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 18, 2017, 11:31:15 PM
Well worth a listen :

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-royal-blue-podcast-romelu-12909563

Statement of intent - he's not going anywhere this summer.  I like it!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: American Evertonian on April 18, 2017, 11:34:21 PM
Going to be honest - If we could get £100m and use that to get Dybala and Lacazette I would do it in a heartbeat.

Granted - a pipedream I'm sure
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Silas on April 18, 2017, 11:40:07 PM
Going to be honest - If we could get £100m and use that to get Dybala and Lacazette I would do it in a heartbeat.

Granted - a pipedream I'm sure

Why? We are guaranteed goals with Lukaku at the very least.  They don't guarantee that.  The money is compensation for the fact you then have to rebuild.  It's high because it's very difficult to do so with strikers
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 18, 2017, 11:42:53 PM
Why? We are guaranteed goals with Lukaku at the very least.  They don't guarantee that.  The money is compensation for the fact you then have to rebuild.  It's high because it's very difficult to do so with strikers

But if we force him to stay then down the line we still have to rebuild but with less or even possibly no funds from a sale. It's short termism
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 18, 2017, 11:51:36 PM
But that money may or may not pay off in results.  Barring injury, Lukaku WILL.  And we are at a "high leverage" position on the win curve going into next season.

Also note that the podcast states that we won't listen to offers any LOWER than 100m.  We may expect add ons to that.  100m and Batshuayi from Chelsea?  Hee hee.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on April 19, 2017, 12:50:29 AM
Well worth a listen :

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-royal-blue-podcast-romelu-12909563

Brilliant that
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Tinga on April 19, 2017, 02:12:10 AM
If we could get £100m and use that to get Dybala and Lacazette

 lolol You going to add managers to Juventus and Lyon whilst this happens?.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: American Evertonian on April 19, 2017, 03:17:07 AM
Why? We are guaranteed goals with Lukaku at the very least.  They don't guarantee that.  The money is compensation for the fact you then have to rebuild.  It's high because it's very difficult to do so with strikers

Because we would essentially get two top world talents for an additional 2-3 years then we will get Lukaku for if he doesn't resign.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: American Evertonian on April 19, 2017, 03:17:34 AM
If we could get £100m and use that to get Dybala and Lacazette

 lolol You going to add managers to Juventus and Lyon whilst this happens?.

A man can dream
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Paddockoldie on April 19, 2017, 03:42:06 AM
If he goes because of CL football, why would anyone of near comparisons want to come to us? If he stays another season and we get CL... it should be problem solved... no?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 19, 2017, 03:51:05 AM
We sell lukaku... There's no way we ate buying two or three players at that level. We buy three or four players the level below
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 19, 2017, 03:54:36 AM
We sell lukaku... There's no way we ate buying two or three players at that level. We buy three or four players the level below

Which is why Lukaku isn't going anywhere this window.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on April 19, 2017, 05:13:30 AM
Well worth a listen :

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-royal-blue-podcast-romelu-12909563

Good shout, well worth a listen !
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: djws1788 on April 19, 2017, 06:45:14 AM
Dybala would cost around 85m, Lacazette 60m. no chance we get both under 100m and no way does Dybala consider leaving a team with a real shout of winning the CL for us. Lyon could also be in the CL next year if they win the Europa.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ramjam on April 19, 2017, 07:44:04 PM
Spanish press reporting that Chelsea have agreed terms with Real for Morata
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 19, 2017, 08:26:27 PM
It is tough looking for a replacement for Lukaku which is why I think Moshiri will tell Lukaku to knuckle down and we'll revisit it this time next year. Another 30 goal season they will be queuing up for him and we'll most probably be around the top 4, which makes us a more attractive proposition for any replacements and increases the likelihood he might even hang around a little longer.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueNoseMike on April 19, 2017, 09:08:25 PM
I still have my doubts on if he goes or not. The 2 biggest suitors appear to be Man United and Chelsea. From everything that I've read he is not their 1st choice signing. Conte is a big Morata fan and United have been linked with Griezmann. Yes United or Chelsea might go for 2 forwards but at a combined cost of 130 - 160 million quid I have my doubts. Both have cash to burn, I'm well aware, but they also have other positions in their team, especially United, that need some strengthening.

Maybe it will change if Costa and Zlatan leave. All ifs and buts at the moment and still up in the air. I don't see another prem team going for him and, possibly bar PSG, I don't see the elite clubs going for him as they have better
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 19, 2017, 09:44:41 PM
Maybe Chelsea and United each CHOOSE to go elsewhere, and it right pisses him off?  Stays to prove them wrong, and absolutely tears the Prem up for the next 3-4 seasons before leaving for Barca, Real, or Bayern.

/wishful thinking is fun
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 19, 2017, 10:01:31 PM
He might have to be careful what he wishes for because if the big clubs and big offers don't come in then his persistent public stance of wanting to play on a bigger stage might come back to bite him. He's a great player but he's obviously aiming for a small handful of clubs and those clubs present needs might not meet his desires.
It's great to be ambitious but it's also prudent to sometimes keep your own counsel and not vocalise said ambition at every opportunity, because no-one knows what the future might hold.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: School of Science on April 19, 2017, 10:10:25 PM
Would anyone go for Vardy even if Lukaku stays, think his pace, workmates and goals would dovetail nicely with Lukaku. Could even be a decent replacement. Don't know if how long a contract he has or even if he would come to us.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Major Clanger on April 19, 2017, 10:13:57 PM
Would anyone go for Vardy even if Lukaku stays, think his pace, workmates and goals would dovetail nicely with Lukaku. Could even be a decent replacement. Don't know if how long a contract he has or even if he would come to us.

I'm a big fan of Vardy's for personal reasons, but no. Buying 30 year old speed merchants is not a good idea.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: School of Science on April 19, 2017, 10:21:35 PM
I'm a big fan of Vardy's for personal reasons, but no. Buying 30 year old speed merchants is not a good idea.

Good point never realised he was that old, I'm out now too.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: TheRam on April 19, 2017, 10:22:13 PM
Been saying it for months.

We are signing Jamie vardy in the summer.

Walsh loves him. Koeman will love him and he'll be relatively cheap.

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: School of Science on April 19, 2017, 10:25:30 PM
Another one from Leicester, Maherez his stock has dropped from last season, so he will be a lot cheaper with not as many suitors. Think Koeman could revitalize his career.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Cereal Killer on April 19, 2017, 10:31:48 PM
Been saying it for months.

We are signing Jamie vardy in the summer.

Walsh loves him. Koeman will love him and he'll be relatively cheap.

how cheap is relatively cheap though?

Arsenal's bid was circa £22m and that met a clause in his then contract, since then he's signed a new four year contract in the summer on a reported £100k a week
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Cereal Killer on April 19, 2017, 10:36:49 PM
Another one from Leicester, Maherez his stock has dropped from last season, so he will be a lot cheaper with not as many suitors. Think Koeman could revitalize his career.

Again, signed new long term contract in the summer with reportedly no release clause, so "cheaper" will still be a big chunk of money

He's had one decent season, I personally don't think he'd be worth the punt
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 19, 2017, 10:37:04 PM
Another one from Leicester, Maherez his stock has dropped from last season, so he will be a lot cheaper with not as many suitors. Think Koeman could revitalize his career.

Isn't he "earning" 160k a week now. His stock has dropped but I doubt he fancies admitting it when it comes to negotiating his wage
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Alanvideo on April 19, 2017, 11:19:27 PM
Good point never realised he was that old, I'm out now too.
...................he can still out run a whippet even at the grand old age of 30 !
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: School of Science on April 20, 2017, 12:19:29 AM
Isn't he "earning" 160k a week now. His stock has dropped but I doubt he fancies admitting it when it comes to negotiating his wage

On the form of his first season well worth it.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 20, 2017, 12:24:44 AM
On the form of his first season well worth it.

And on the form of every other season in football a staggering amount.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 20, 2017, 12:29:01 AM
Another one from Leicester, Maherez his stock has dropped from last season, so he will be a lot cheaper with not as many suitors. Think Koeman could revitalize his career.

No interest in Vardy, but Mahrez showed the potential to be special with the right support.  And we have so much other quality in the midfield, I'd take a chance on him for sure.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 20, 2017, 12:31:17 AM
Vardy's also something of an asshole, who relishes his celebrity.  I don't think he fits our dressing room at all.  If we were to lose Rom (I don't think we will, not this summer) and replace him primarily with Rooney and Vardy, I would feel terrible about the potential for the chemistry to fall apart completely.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 20, 2017, 01:00:35 AM
Vardy has something of the night about him.....
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: School of Science on April 20, 2017, 02:04:01 AM
No interest in Vardy, but Mahrez showed the potential to be special with the right support.  And we have so much other quality in the midfield, I'd take a chance on him for sure.

Imagine Mahrez, Lukaku and Barkley as a front three, mouthwatering.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: kramer0 on April 20, 2017, 02:16:00 AM
Buying 30 year old speed merchants is not a good idea.

Steve Walsh's homework before the window opens:

(http://www.addletters.com/pictures/bart-simpson-generator/bart-simpson-generator.php?line=Buying+30+year+old+speed+merchants+is+not+a+good+idea.)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on April 20, 2017, 02:59:45 AM
Vardy has something of the night about him.....

Hookers and cocaine.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Alanvideo on April 20, 2017, 05:39:25 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/04/19/romelu-lukaku-wants-rejoin-chelsea-move-will-infuriate-everton/
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 20, 2017, 05:42:12 AM
Mat law loves Everton
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: chang on April 20, 2017, 05:47:37 AM
Nobody quoted - doesn't reveal anything we don't know / fear ....... 100 million pounds ...... lol
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Brownie20 on April 20, 2017, 06:14:02 AM
Mat law loves Everton

As I have no knowledge of this journo I'm hoping this is a sarcastic statement and that he usually writes crap about us
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: pjk on April 20, 2017, 06:19:10 AM
As I have no knowledge of this journo I'm hoping this is a sarcastic statement and that he usually writes crap about us



The Lukaku issue wont stop until they're proved right that he will leave our club. They thrive on upsetting things and eventually the obvious happens and they're proved right, which in this case appears to be inevitable. Where Lukaku's concerned we're easy meat to them. Bastards.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jamokachi on April 20, 2017, 07:59:12 AM
meh
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Hawkandro on April 20, 2017, 02:43:01 PM
Whatever happens, I am getting bored with this all now.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on April 20, 2017, 02:53:15 PM
https://twitter.com/RomeluLukaku9/status/854962577062932480



Pretty clear that he's having a dig at the Telegraph there?
Or my wishful thinking?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 20, 2017, 03:08:15 PM
Pfa team of the year

Not bad for someone who is lazy
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 20, 2017, 04:26:07 PM
https://twitter.com/RomeluLukaku9/status/854962577062932480



Pretty clear that he's having a dig at the Telegraph there?
Or my wishful thinking?

or quoting his favourite song.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: ally2 on April 20, 2017, 04:45:35 PM
Pfa team of the year

Not bad for someone who is lazy

Add another ten mill
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 20, 2017, 05:00:35 PM
Pfa team of the year

Not bad for someone who is lazy

I don't think anyone has called him lazy for about 12 months have they?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 20, 2017, 05:02:11 PM
I don't think anyone has called him lazy for about 12 months have they?
Yeh. They have. All game Saturday till he scored as an example
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: TheRam on April 20, 2017, 05:17:36 PM
Yeh. They have. All game Saturday till he scored as an example

The lazy thing is a minority to be fair.

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 20, 2017, 05:20:16 PM
Yeh. They have. All game Saturday till he scored as an example

Really? I thought this season we've moved on from that accusation as his game has improved. Granted sometimes he doesn't look arsed when things aren't going his way but he seems to have lost a bit of weight since Koeman took over so he's no longer an easy target for the 'lazy' jibe as he does seem to put a shift in more often than not.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 20, 2017, 06:25:35 PM
Matt Law though.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on April 21, 2017, 12:54:06 AM
Talksport claiming that we won't sell him to Chelsea because of the way the tried to unsettle Stones, we would prefer to sell to United.

United who's current manager was the manager of Chelsea during the Stones saga

File under bullshit
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Zoolander on April 21, 2017, 01:42:44 AM
We'll sell him to whoever meets or exceeds our valuation - or not at all.
See your point on Mourinho though - plus would Rom go back to be managed by him again anyhow?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Alanvideo on April 21, 2017, 01:49:54 AM
Who was the last player we sold to Chelsea ?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Toffee1 on April 21, 2017, 01:58:54 AM
Who was the last player we sold to Chelsea ?

Duncan McKenzie in the 78/79 season.

Loaned them a player called Gary Peyton in 92/93 but he also went to Brentford on loan in that season as well.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Everton Mint on April 21, 2017, 03:33:23 AM
BREAKING NEWS:
Sky sources: Tianjin Quanjian working on deal to sign Diego Costa when Chinese transfer window opens on June 19.

Lukaku is going back to Chelsea ??
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 21, 2017, 03:46:00 AM
BREAKING NEWS:
Sky sources: Tianjin Quanjian working on deal to sign Diego Costa when Chinese transfer window opens on June 19.

Lukaku is going back to Chelsea ??

We have a say in what happens with Rom, you know. The main say. Chelsea'll probably sign Morata.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Everton Mint on April 21, 2017, 03:49:54 AM
We have a say in what happens with Rom, you know. The main say.

Yeah of course. Just meant its maybe his & their plan.

But at £100m... even Abramovich will think again. :)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: brap2 on April 21, 2017, 05:52:17 AM
People call him lazy in every match thread, and every time I go the game I hear it at least once out of some ahl dick head.

Also, he's just bumping some French and Swae Lee.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: pjk on April 21, 2017, 06:01:47 AM
People call him lazy in every match thread, and every time I go the game I hear it at least once out of some ahl dick head.

Also, he's just bumping some French and Swae Lee.




He's a real intelligent guy. No wonder he doesn't want to play for us. The money is ridiculous. That's where he falls down. We're  a good crowd most of the time. If he wants to go, OK, see you. lf that's it, full stop. See you Rom. Don't fuck around any more. You're a football player.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueNoseMike on April 21, 2017, 03:08:00 PM
Still think Morata is 1st choice but if Costa goes will they sign both? Can Morata say play in the Pedro role? Not seen enough of him to answer that myself.

Chelsea are also big favourites to sign Sanchez aren't they? Or is that only if Hazard leaves?

Think there could well be a big signing that causes a sort of domino effect that leads to a few other big signings.


I read somewhere that a member of the Bayern board has predicted that big money transfers will reduce in number as most of the top players are already at the top teams. Think Lukaku is a very rare exception isn't he? Who else would be there?

The bayern chap also said they'd resist buying superstars in the way Madrid do and pointed to Martinez being their most expensive signing at 40 milllion.

http://www.espnfc.co.uk/bayern-munich/story/3106509/bayern-munich-choose-not-to-make-super-transfers-like-real-madrid-director
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: brap2 on April 21, 2017, 06:48:34 PM
I guarantee with the decline in Ribery and robben they will have to spend huge in the next 2 years
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 21, 2017, 07:04:48 PM
What he's saying is they can hoover up all the best talent in Germany because there's nowhere else to go, even the second biggest team Dortmund are now their feeder club, so he's banking on them not needing to splash big money as they already have a monopoly on that country.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: pedrotheblue on April 22, 2017, 02:03:03 AM
Talksport claiming that we won't sell him to Chelsea because of the way the tried to unsettle Stones, we would prefer to sell to United.

United who's current manager was the manager of Chelsea during the Stones saga

File under bullshit

You lost me at Talksport
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: toffeesfan on April 23, 2017, 12:58:51 AM
If he wants to go, let him go. I have learned that no matter what, something will be figured out. Can we really blame him for wanting to go? I have put my trust in Koeman.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 23, 2017, 02:35:40 AM
What impact (if any) will Lukaku being pretty shite away from home affect his value?

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 23, 2017, 03:27:36 AM
What impact (if any) will Lukaku being pretty shite away from home affect his value?


Can't see a top club taking the risk at the price quoted, he could well up his workrate by a lot if he got the
move he wants and fulfill the undoubted potential... A lot of pundits questioning his attitude at the moment Mcmahon today
on the stream i watched, so they could do us a favour and put the biggies off him and we keep him
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 23, 2017, 03:29:53 AM
What impact (if any) will Lukaku being pretty shite away from home affect his value?



He's always been a pretty hot and cold striker, although admittedly that's got better this season.

You won't get 10 good games on the bounce from him, which, for the quoted £100m price tag, you'd expect as a given.
Which I suspect is also a reason he won't have the world's top teams battling each other for his signature this summer.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Juanito on April 23, 2017, 03:48:47 AM
What impact (if any) will Lukaku being pretty shite away from home affect his value?




His supply line was non existent today. He didn't make himself a handful but I think today showed how much we missed Coleman going forward.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 23, 2017, 08:48:14 AM
I would imagine when he plays with players capable of imposing themselves on teams away from home (whether that's with us or elsewhere) he'll be just as lethal.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on April 23, 2017, 11:44:02 AM
I actually think the problem with Lukaku away is that the rest of the team don't impose themselves and get further forward or their form suffers. See Mirallis and Barkley today especially.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Rodenplav64 on April 23, 2017, 01:03:22 PM
I think the problem is he only terrorises weak defences .
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Paddockoldie on April 23, 2017, 02:35:04 PM
I don't think he put much effort in yesterday despite poor service. He doesn't trouble defenders by dragging them out of position,  being mobile and chasing them down. He likes it on a plate at times. Perhaps in his head he's already gone? If he wants the Chelsea move he's gonna have to destroy them next week... which he won't because they'll box him off.
If he wants to leave he'll have to put in a request and then knock on their doors because for 100 million, they won't be banging on ours.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: 74Blue on April 23, 2017, 03:41:57 PM
I don't think he put much effort in yesterday despite poor service. He doesn't trouble defenders by dragging them out of position,  being mobile and chasing them down. He likes it on a plate at times. Perhaps in his head he's already gone? If he wants the Chelsea move he's gonna have to destroy them next week... which he won't because they'll box him off.
If he wants to leave he'll have to put in a request and then knock on their doors because for 100 million, they won't be banging on ours.
Exactly this.
The difference between a very good striker and a world class striker is making things happen.
It kills me to say this but Luis Suarez is an example of a world class player. No matter what, he never stops moving, harassing, looking for space to run into, trying to win at all costs. Centre halves know that when Suarez is on the pitch, they will not get a second's peace. Granted, he is a cunt, but he's also relentless and shows 100% desire to win at all costs. Imagine a beast like Lukaku with that sort of attitude. There would not be enough money in the world to buy a player like that.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on April 23, 2017, 03:46:14 PM
Jesus, we love a bit of hyperbole in here.

1) I've seen yesterday be called the worst game we've played all season. Despite the fact we got bent over and dry humped at Stamford bridge this season.

2) even messi, ronaldo, Suarez, Neymar, bale, benzema, lewandowski have days where they're not brilliant. None of them score in each and every game. They certainly don't give a world beating performance every week without fail.


Sometimes things are just a bit shit. It doesn't change much from the week before.
We're a bit pants away from home. Simple as that
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 23, 2017, 03:49:30 PM
It's weird how we pretty much always attack our two best players every time we draw or lose, and focus very little on some of the other players who seem to largely escape criticism. It doesn't matter what level of football you play at, strikers depend on service. Rom can't turn water into wine. If Kane or Aguero or whoever was playing in a team that didn't create anything or have any kind of meaningful attempt until the 80th minute, they would also not score goals. When we create chances, Rom always scores. That's more than good enough for me.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 23, 2017, 03:59:48 PM
Keeps coming up he'd be better in a top team, do top teams have it there own way all the time?
because he'll have a lot more games overall and a lot more tougher defences to deal with, top drawer
forwards have to make things happen when it's tight and hard and chances are few and far between,this
is missing too often from his game, saying that he has given us some lovely moments and i hope he turns
out tip top and in our shirt.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Silas on April 23, 2017, 04:13:01 PM
Keeps coming up he'd be better in a top team, do top teams have it there own way all the time?
because he'll have a lot more games overall and a lot more tougher defences to deal with, top drawer
forwards have to make things happen when it's tight and hard and chances are few and far between,this
is missing too often from his game, saying that he has given us some lovely moments and i hope he turns
out tip top and in our shirt.

Costa's form has gone to shit since January and he's considering a top striker who many were saying was far superior to us when he played against us this season. It seems Lukaku is not given the leeway every other player is. Where is the Gueye thread who has been quite average since AFCON? It's the inconsistency of it all
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Paddockoldie on April 23, 2017, 04:17:41 PM
It's weird how we pretty much always attack our two best players every time we draw or lose, and focus very little on some of the other players who seem to largely escape criticism. It doesn't matter what level of football you play at, strikers depend on service. Rom can't turn water into wine. If Kane or Aguero or whoever was playing in a team that didn't create anything or have any kind of meaningful attempt until the 80th minute, they would also not score goals. When we create chances, Rom always scores. That's more than good enough for me.

There's no attack mate. It's an opinion on a forum. Koeman comments on players.. is he attacking them? Yesterday he looked like he didn't really feel like it... it's okay to suggest that isn't it, even if you disagree?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 23, 2017, 04:19:43 PM
There's no attack mate. It's an opinion on a forum. Koeman comments on players.. is he attacking them? Yesterday he looked like he didn't really feel like it... it's okay to suggest that isn't it, even if you disagree?

Course mate. Like you, I'm commenting and giving my opinion.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Major Clanger on April 23, 2017, 04:23:53 PM
Keeps coming up he'd be better in a top team, do top teams have it there own way all the time?

Yes, pretty much.

That's the very definition of a top team.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueNoseMike on April 23, 2017, 04:24:06 PM
Still 50/50 for me that he stays. I know a lot of the time they have no clue but he is odds on with bookies to stay with us. Don't think he is 1st choice for the clubs being linked
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 23, 2017, 04:26:35 PM
Kinell you can't even make a point about a player without people going over the top defensive on here sometimes.

No ones saying Lukaku is a shit player, but his away performances are so much less productive than his home performances, that's just a fact.

I'm pretty sure he will leave this summer and I was just wondering how much that will impact the price that someone else is willing to pay. His form has also nosedived at the end of most seasons (although RM could take some blame for that and I'm quite sure that's not going to happen this season)

He didn't have much service yesterday, but he also contributed very little himself, against essentially a back 3, this idea that a striker should just stand in the box and wait for a ball is absurd, none of the worlds best striker do that. James Collins was probably man of the match because Lukaku couldn't win a header against him, take the ball past him or just beat him.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 23, 2017, 04:27:09 PM
Costa's form has gone to shit since January and he's considering a top striker who many were saying was far superior to us when he played against us this season. It seems Lukaku is not given the leeway every other player is. Where is the Gueye thread who has been quite average since AFCON? It's the inconsistency of it all

Costa isn't given any leeway. General opinion is he's packed up cos he wants a move
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: 74Blue on April 23, 2017, 04:27:12 PM
Costa's form has gone to shit since January and he's considering a top striker who many were saying was far superior to us when he played against us this season. It seems Lukaku is not given the leeway every other player is. Where is the Gueye thread who has been quite average since AFCON? It's the inconsistency of it all
Costa looks like he's simply downed tools and still has his heart set on his big money move to China.
Gueye exceeded our expectations for a £7m player signed from an absolute shite side that had just been relegated. I agree that he has not been at his best since returning from AFCON, but I repeat, he was a £7m punt, not a £28m record signing, who is banging on at every opportunity about how great he is and how he deserves to be playing for an absolute top tier club in the Champions League.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 23, 2017, 04:27:15 PM
Costa's form has gone to shit since January and he's considering a top striker who many were saying was far superior to us when he played against us this season. It seems Lukaku is not given the leeway every other player is. Where is the Gueye thread who has been quite average since AFCON? It's the inconsistency of it all
Agree totally with you we have a hell of a lot to do before we challenge top 4, I think the spotlight's more
on Lakaku because of how the press have been used to notify of his intentions instead of it coming from the club
as it should, i think everyone's been pissed with that..
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Silas on April 23, 2017, 04:31:28 PM
Costa looks like he's simply downed tools and still has his heart set on his big money move to China.
Gueye exceeded our expectations for a £7m player signed from an absolute shite side that had just been relegated. I agree that he has not been at his best since returning from AFCON, but I repeat, he was a £7m punt, not a £28m record signing, who is banging on at every opportunity about how great he is and how he deserves to be playing for an absolute top tier club in the Champions League.

He is great though he's also banging them in at every opportunity. You shouldn't take the talk if you can't walk the walk. The lad's the top scorer in the league.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 23, 2017, 04:38:38 PM
 
Yes, pretty much.

That's the very definition of a top team.
So there's only 1? we might as well fuck it off then ...:]
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Major Clanger on April 23, 2017, 04:41:16 PM
No ones saying Lukaku is a shit player, but his away performances are so much less productive than his home performances, that's just a fact.

Is it though?

Have you proven that the rest of the team perform just as well, it's only his output that drops off?

Because I see the opposite: it's the midfield that lets him down in these games, leaving him isolated against 3-4 defenders, pumping balls randomly forward, not even in his general direction. When he does get on the ball, it takes us an awful lot of time to get more people up around him or in the box.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: 74Blue on April 23, 2017, 04:44:18 PM
He is great though he's also banging them in at every opportunity. You shouldn't take the talk if you can't walk the walk. The lad's the top scorer in the league.
He'd be out of sight at the top of the goalscoring charts if he stopped allowing utter shitehawks like James fucking Collins to bully him out of games. Collins had him well and truly in his pocket yesterday and Lukaku did absolutely fuck all to change that. A truly world class player would have at least made James Collins earn his money yesterday. Lukaku's a 6'4" beast, why does he not use that massive frame of his more to rattle his opponents.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Major Clanger on April 23, 2017, 04:46:28 PM
He'd be out of sight at the top of the goalscoring charts if he stopped allowing utter shitehawks like James fucking Collins to bully him out of games. Collins had him well and truly in his pocket yesterday and Lukaku did absolutely fuck all to change that. A truly world class player would have at least made James Collins earn his money yesterday. Lukaku's a 6'4" beast, why does he not use that massive frame of his more to rattle his opponents.

Rattling your opponent when the ball isn't anywhere near you is usually rewarded with a red card.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Silas on April 23, 2017, 04:47:03 PM
He'd be out of sight at the top of the goalscoring charts if he stopped allowing utter shitehawks like James fucking Collins to bully him out of games. Collins had him well and truly in his pocket yesterday and Lukaku did absolutely fuck all to change that. A truly world class player would have at least made James Collins earn his money yesterday. Lukaku's a 6'4" beast, why does he not use that massive frame of his more to rattle his opponents.

Because he's not Peter Crouch, he's better than that. He can do it but you might as well ask why isn't Ronaldo putting in slide tackles inside his own area.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 23, 2017, 04:52:26 PM
Is it though?

Have you proven that the rest of the team perform just as well, it's only his output that drops off?

Because I see the opposite: it's the midfield that lets him down in these games, leaving him isolated against 3-4 defenders, pumping balls randomly forward, not even in his general direction. When he does get on the ball, it takes us an awful lot of time to get more people up around him or in the box.


Yes, it's a fact that Lukaku is less productive away from home, there's no getting away from it.

I've not got the stats but it was mentioned yesterday that he runs less on average and wins less aerial battles away from home.

Your are right when you say the midfield also are less productive away from home too though. It's probably a mixture of both.


I remember Lukaku saying at the start of the season "great players make something out of nothing" when he was talking about taking his game to the next level.
So if we are talking about £100m players you would assume they would be these great players that make something out of nothing, little geniuses, even when the rest of the team is playing poorly, I don't think Lukaku has shown he can do that, (as you and other people have mentioned, if the midfield aren't playing well then Lukaku can't score) which is why I think clubs will be put off paying a massive price.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: 74Blue on April 23, 2017, 04:53:20 PM
Rattling your opponent when the ball isn't anywhere near you is usually rewarded with a red card.
Winning the occasional aerial battle with a centre half would be a good start.
How many centre halves have absolutely dominated Lukaku in the air?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Silas on April 23, 2017, 04:56:51 PM
Yes, it's a fact that Lukaku is less productive away from home, there's no getting away from it.

I've not got the stats but it was mentioned yesterday that he runs less on average and wins less aerial battles away from home.

Your are right when you say the midfield also are less productive away from home too though. It's probably a mixture of both.


I remember Lukaku saying at the start of the season "great players make something out of nothing" when he was talking about taking his game to the next level.
So if we are talking about £100m players you would assume they would be these great players that make something out of nothing, little geniuses, even when the rest of the team is playing poorly, I don't think Lukaku has shown he can do that, (as you and other people have mentioned, if the midfield aren't playing well then Lukaku can't score) which is why I think clubs will be put off paying a massive price.

Lukaku is very capable of making something out of nothing with the ball at his feet he's done it on several occasions. He had no right to score that goal against Burnley last week for example
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 23, 2017, 05:02:02 PM
Lukaku is very capable of making something out of nothing with the ball at his feet he's done it on several occasions. He had no right to score that goal against Burnley last week for example

It was a good goal, when the team were already up and completely dominating.

He's shown his strength is turning a defender in the box and scoring, he made a big thing about it with Carra, I wouldn't say he had no right to score it, once he's turned the defender then he's probably got every right to score it, he's one on one with the keeper.

The point people seem to be making is that Lukaku didn't play well because of the midfield, and I think that £100m players don't have to always rely on everyone else around them, they can create a bit of magic on their own, I'm not sure I've ever seen that from Lukaku. The goal against Chelsea in the cup when he turned Cahill inside out could have been 1 example of it.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 23, 2017, 05:02:20 PM
It's weird how we pretty much always attack our two best players every time we draw or lose, and focus very little on some of the other players who seem to largely escape criticism. It doesn't matter what level of football you play at, strikers depend on service. Rom can't turn water into wine. If Kane or Aguero or whoever was playing in a team that didn't create anything or have any kind of meaningful attempt until the 80th minute, they would also not score goals. When we create chances, Rom always scores. That's more than good enough for me.

But that's normal though. If you're a top player you are subject to a higher degree of scrutiny and criticism than if you were Jonny average. Especially if you compound it by making it so vocal.

Not that yesterday's game was a good example of where he could have done anything differently but it comes with the territory. Maybe if he joined a team with 4-5 other superstars he wouldn't get as much focus on him but he's our star man and wants to leave for bigger and better things, so with that comes the (maybe unrealistic?)expectation that he should be contributing more.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Silas on April 23, 2017, 05:05:27 PM
It was a good goal, when the team were already up and completely dominating.

He's shown his strength is turning a defender in the box and scoring, he made a big thing about it with Carra, I wouldn't say he had no right to score it, once he's turned the defender then he's probably got every right to score it, he's one on one with the keeper.


I could go and find all the goals he's scored from pretty much nothing but I'm lazy and not that arsed about it. He can though.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 23, 2017, 05:08:41 PM
I could go and find all the goals he's scored from pretty much nothing but I'm lazy and not that arsed about it. He can though.

Other than deadball situations I can only really think of that Chelsea one in the cup, at a time when the rest of the team were not playing well.

Anyway we could go on forever, I just think because he either doesn't do it or doesn't do it enough, people won't be willing to spend anything like £100m for him. I'd still be happy with £60m - £70m mind you, we're still talking about one of the best strikers in the league.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 23, 2017, 05:08:54 PM
But that's normal though. If you're a top player you are subject to a higher degree of scrutiny and criticism than if you were Jonny average. Especially if you compound it by making it so vocal.

Not that yesterday's game was a good example of where he could have done anything differently but it comes with the territory. Maybe if he joined a team with 4-5 other superstars he wouldn't get as much focus on him but he's our star man and wants to leave for bigger and better things, so with that comes the (maybe unrealistic?)expectation that he should be contributing more.

He's the top scorer in the league though, in the team that's 7th, with no penalties. I accept some people feel differently, but I just don't think he's our problem. He's a solution.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 23, 2017, 05:16:43 PM
He's the top scorer in the league though, in the team that's 7th, with no penalties. I accept some people feel differently, but I just don't think he's our problem. He's a solution.

I think you're arguing your own point against yourself mate. No-one's disputing that.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ramjam on April 23, 2017, 05:25:20 PM
I think Kane will catch him and win the golden boot if he doesn't pick his attitude up. He's a fantastic finisher but I think the transfer gossip is starting to get in the way
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on April 23, 2017, 05:27:37 PM
I think Kane will catch him and win the golden boot if he doesn't pick his attitude up. He's a fantastic finisher but I think the transfer gossip is starting to get in the way

Why do you think that? Because he didn't score this week? Transfer gossip been going Ina few months, he hasn't stopped acoribg
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Major Clanger on April 23, 2017, 05:28:31 PM
Winning the occasional aerial battle with a centre half would be a good start.
How many centre halves have absolutely dominated Lukaku in the air?

Unless you count two or three defenders combining to get to balls fired well over his head (that at best he could only flick on to nobody) as "dominating in the air", not many.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ramjam on April 23, 2017, 05:52:17 PM
Why do you think that? Because he didn't score this week? Transfer gossip been going Ina few months, he hasn't stopped acoribg

Are you on the lash?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 23, 2017, 05:54:17 PM
Think we just have to accept what lukaku is and isn't. He's a bit shit in the air, goes into his shell sometimes when we are shit and his movement isn't the cleverest. Asking him to win the majority of headers or pull defenders all over with clever movement is going to lead to disappointment. He's a very good player having a great season but like almost all he has his limitations. Not sure it's massively fair to complain about him not doing what he's not very good at. On his good days he's not winning too many headers or making loads of clever runs
The 100m is nonsense. So probably not very fair to compare him to that price tag either
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Rhys on April 23, 2017, 06:40:35 PM
He's the top scorer in the league though, in the team that's 7th, with no penalties. I accept some people feel differently, but I just don't think he's our problem. He's a solution.

I think his inconsistencies in what he isn't great at, as in holding it up when battling a big strong centre half with little support, is a big problem for us away from home and a reason why we've had so many poor performances away this season and only won 4 matches.

However you know yesterday if you'd got him one chance we'd have won the match, so the solution for that would be can you get someone you can play with him who will share/take the burden from him. Maybe that was the plan with belfodil? Even if you have little support and the balls in aren't great, it's so hard to build attacks, pressure, take pressure off the defence when you don't hold and retain the ball when it goes into you.

Obviously we hope he stays but we can't continue with him and Ross as the 2 in away games for me because Ross doesn't get beyond him enough, rom doesn't hold it well enough or win free kicks well enough to play isolated and if he tries and stretches them the support behind him is poor in away games. So we either have to bring a player in who can play with/off him that can battle better, hold onto and protect the ball better. Or we have to bring in players who make better runs and show for the ball in better areas than people like mirallas do, and then be braver at holding the ball than he is. Or hopefully both.

If you look back at the later moyes years we'd have 15-20 sometimes 30 minute spells in away games at the poorer teams where we'd be putting loads of pressure on and they couldn't stop us from getting into good areas time after time. In those days we had people like Cahill and felli who you know you could put balls into feet and chest and they'd look after it and bring people into the game. And the players knew they could get the ball into pienaar's feet and he wouldn't lose the ball, he'd either work an opening, retain possession or win a free kick. All of these things meant midfielders like osman could get in the box, full backs could overlap with confidence because they knew we'd protect the ball well whereas right now if you're a centre midfielder or full back you won't want to commit to a run behind when the ball is going into mirallas feet because you've no idea what the outcome will be.

So I think until we solve the problem of having more players who will hold the ball in the opposition half and be consistent at it we will keep seeing the high number of away games like we have this season where we don't have spells where we dominate and overall don't play well or control the game how koeman wants.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 23, 2017, 06:43:33 PM
I never, ever thought we'd be trashing a 20+ goals a season goal scorer.

Not sure what people want. Did Lineker get this much analysis?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 23, 2017, 06:47:21 PM
A fit Deulofeu could have been a great addition to our squad yesterday, would have helped Rom out.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueNoseMike on April 23, 2017, 06:49:45 PM
I never, ever thought we'd be trashing a 20+ goals a season goal scorer.

Not sure what people want. Did Lineker get this much analysis?

Just playing Devil's advocate here as I love Lukaku but didn't we win the title in the season's before and after Lineker's trophyless season with us?

Like I say I love Lukaku but if he doesn't score he isn't really contributing a great deal else. That being said he is one of the most clinical finishers in the world so as a manager you do your best to accommodate his flaws and, if he stays, that is something we need to address in the summer.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 23, 2017, 07:33:40 PM
Just playing Devil's advocate here as I love Lukaku but didn't we win the title in the season's before and after Lineker's trophyless season with us?

Like I say I love Lukaku but if he doesn't score he isn't really contributing a great deal else. That being said he is one of the most clinical finishers in the world so as a manager you do your best to accommodate his flaws and, if he stays, that is something we need to address in the summer.

We didn't win the title immediately before Lukaku came and I doubt we'll win it immediately after he leaves either. Not sure what that has to do with anything to be honest.

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 23, 2017, 07:34:18 PM
I never, ever thought we'd be trashing a 20+ goals a season goal scorer.

Not sure what people want. Did Lineker get this much analysis?

Get over yourself. A critique of Lukaku's game is perfectly justifiable.

Anyone would think we were tearing Messi's game apart!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 23, 2017, 07:38:24 PM
Get over yourself. A critique of Lukaku's game is perfectly justifiable.

Anyone would think we were tearing Messi's game apart!

He's young, he's getting better, the comparisons between him and a fully developed Saurez are laughable. If he's not dominating games when he's 27, then worry. Well, we won't worry as he won't be with us anymore, we'll have a 15 goals a season striker at best by then.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 23, 2017, 07:48:56 PM
He's young, he's getting better, the comparisons between him and a fully developed Saurez are laughable. If he's not dominating games when he's 27, then worry. Well, we won't worry as he won't be with us anymore, we'll have a 15 goals a season striker at best by then.

I agree. But we have a still maturing Lukaku who brings what he brings, which isn't the full package, which isn't his fault but it's reality.

We can't pretend where we fall down in away games doesn't really exist just because we have a front two who are immature and still developing. We have to work with the cards we're dealt.

Howeve as you say it's a problem that won't exist in a month or so anyway.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 23, 2017, 08:02:47 PM
He's young, he's getting better, the comparisons between him and a fully developed Saurez are laughable. If he's not dominating games when he's 27, then worry. Well, we won't worry as he won't be with us anymore, we'll have a 15 goals a season striker at best by then.

Aren't they brought about by him wanting to play for a top team now and the reported 100m we want for him. The comparisons come surely because of these things
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: cantoffee on April 23, 2017, 08:24:30 PM
He had no service and we were awful yesterday at getting decent balls into him and he had no support around him whatsoever.

That being said, there were plenty of times when he simply didn't do what he had to do in a game like that. Win the ball and hold it up. Collins won the first ball in the air convincingly and from there on in Lukaku knew it was going to be tough and didn't show the desire required to fight for every ball.

We can't put the loss on him because Barkley and Mirallas didn't make anything stick either and constantly loss the ball and no other player really attempted to contribute going forward.

Rhys is right though, when the ball isn't sticking with the front players it makes the others much more wary of venturing forward in the event that the ball is lost and we now face a counter with not enough men to cover back.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 23, 2017, 09:52:56 PM
He's the top scorer in the league though, in the team that's 7th, with no penalties. I accept some people feel differently, but I just don't think he's our problem. He's a solution.

Absolutely.  People are just fucked in the head on this one.  If nobody wants to pay 100m, then we keep him.  He's a fucking force of nature, and improving exponentially season by season (with no reason to think that has stopped, despite being in the conversation for best player in the League this season).
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueForYou on April 23, 2017, 10:14:59 PM
You got it
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 23, 2017, 10:27:35 PM
Absolutely.  People are just fucked in the head on this one.  If nobody wants to pay 100m, then we keep him.  He's a fucking force of nature, and improving EXPONENTIALLY season by season (with no reason to think that has stopped, despite being in the conversation for best player in the League this season).

I think your choice of word highlighted above is either a bit suspect or you're seeing things no-one else is.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Major Clanger on April 23, 2017, 10:32:32 PM
I think your choice of word highlighted above is either a bit suspect or you're seeing things no-one else is.

I'm looking forward to the 400 goals Rom's going to score next season. :)

It was just a bit of hyperbole, nowt wrong with it.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 23, 2017, 10:33:08 PM
I think your choice of word highlighted above is either a bit suspect or you're seeing things no-one else is.

I stand by it 100%, and I suspect most third party viewers would agree.  His growth as a player this season is nothing short of remarkable.  I mean, even MLT likes him now, FFS!!  :D
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 23, 2017, 10:34:23 PM
I'm looking forward to the 400 goals Rom's going to score next season. :)

It was just a bit of hyperbole, nowt wrong with it.

Hey, I didn't say his GOAL RATE would improve exponentially!!  400 would surely get us through to UCL, right?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueForYou on April 23, 2017, 10:35:01 PM
Rapid Rom - no problem
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueNoseMike on April 23, 2017, 11:23:08 PM
We didn't win the title immediately before Lukaku came and I doubt we'll win it immediately after he leaves either. Not sure what that has to do with anything to be honest.



What I was getting at was we did better when we didn't have an obvious and prolific goalscorer, with forwards who probably offered more in other aspects of their game. Relating that back to Lukaku, if he isn't scoring goals he isn't really adding much more to our game and this is one of the reasons we have struggled away from home. I thought I was clear in the point I was making. And yes I'm aware we didn't win the league before Lukaku was here. I'm not an idiot so you don't need to say that

I'm not someone who is expecting beast performances week in week out by the way. But I hope the flaws and inconsistency in his game mean he stays with us. I then hope we can add players to the squad that make up for his obvious weaknesses. He's amazing but just because he is top scorer doesn't mean he is untouchable, especially when he constantly talks himself up as one of the best forwards in the world

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 24, 2017, 12:02:49 AM
Get in Benteke........did a lukaku not bovered face
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Trublue on April 24, 2017, 12:06:16 AM
I'm 44 years old, seen players come and go. Everton will still be here long after he's gone. If we get the stupid money talked about and spend it well, we'll be fine.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueForYou on April 24, 2017, 12:08:48 AM
You can buy any striker in the world OR keep Lukaku

I'll stick with Rom
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 24, 2017, 12:10:08 AM
Absolutely.  People are just fucked in the head on this one.  If nobody wants to pay 100m, then we keep him.  He's a fucking force of nature, and improving exponentially season by season (with no reason to think that has stopped, despite being in the conversation for best player in the League this season).

But then he's worth half next season. So we keep him again?? Then the season after he wanders off without a penny for a replacement. It's really not as simple as to say if someone doesn't pay a daft fee we keep him. It's in our interests too to make a deal. A good 1 for us but a deal. You really think we can afford to write off 80m because it wasn't 100m? On the off chance we'll make the champions league
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 24, 2017, 12:11:48 AM
You can buy any striker in the world OR keep Lukaku

I'll stick with Rom


You think he's the worlds best striker? Is that keep him on his current contract or he signs a new 1? Surely you aren't suggesting you'd rather lukaku for 2 years than Kane or Suarez for 5 with the potential of more or a massive fee at some stage
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 24, 2017, 12:15:20 AM
I stand by it 100%, and I suspect most third party viewers would agree.  His growth as a player this season is nothing short of remarkable.  I mean, even MLT likes him now, FFS!!  :D

I do he's vastly improved his defensive work, movement and he's even a bit better in the air. He's not worth 100m though and we really can't just keep him and let his contract run down (for a variety of reasons) if we get a good offer. If he'd sign I'd be happy to turn down 70m rather than risk trying to find better. I really don't think we can if he's not signing a contract though
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueForYou on April 24, 2017, 12:18:49 AM
If a club is genuinely interested at around £80m/£90m, they are not going to quiver about an extra £10m/£20m to get their man.

£100m it is - if not, £99m, if it looks better
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueForYou on April 24, 2017, 12:20:53 AM
Lukaku, Kane or Suarez on the same contract

I'll stick with Rom
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: TheRam on April 24, 2017, 12:31:08 AM
Oh my god can we stop debating things that are clearly never going to happen.

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 24, 2017, 12:38:17 AM
If a club is genuinely interested at around £80m/£90m, they are not going to quiver about an extra £10m/£20m to get their man.

£100m it is - if not, £99m, if it looks better

Yeah if someone values him at 80 at the most they aren't going to give a shit about 20 million quid. Why stop at 100?? (Though granted you didn't seeing as you were demanding players too) we've got to think bigger. 1 trillion dollars.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueForYou on April 24, 2017, 12:40:38 AM
What is going to happen?

Palace for the title next year?

500-1?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 24, 2017, 12:48:00 AM
I think we'd get half of the 100m for sure next season, at minimum, not half of this paltry 65-70m figure being tossed around now.  People are talking 35m with 1 year left on Barkley's deal, FFS.

I fully expect Rom to have monster season, and to show that he was well-worth the 100m valuation we placed on him.

So yes, I'd take my chances on UCL and maybe Rom changes his mind (and 50m minimum if he doesn't) as opposed to 65-70m and looking small-time by selling him way below Moshiri's figure now.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 24, 2017, 12:53:14 AM
People are talking 25 million for the largely unproven Michael Keane and he's got a year left himself.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 24, 2017, 01:07:49 AM
People are talking 25 million for the largely unproven Michael Keane and he's got a year left himself.

I fully see this window as a test of Everton's ambition and resolve.  Fortunately, I believe Moshiri sees it the same way, and is not going to succumb to the hivemind of "let's be realistic."  100m or fuck right off.

Which means we have a 2nd year of the Koeman project to set a bold foundation before we have to replace any major components (ok, possibly Barkley, but I think Sigurdsson could do a decent job there, though would much, much rather have both).
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueForYou on April 24, 2017, 01:49:21 AM
You got it
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 24, 2017, 02:03:15 AM
I fully see this window as a test of Everton's ambition and resolve.  Fortunately, I believe Moshiri sees it the same way, and is not going to succumb to the hivemind of "let's be realistic."  100m or fuck right off.

Which means we have a 2nd year of the Koeman project to set a bold foundation before we have to replace any major components (ok, possibly Barkley, but I think Sigurdsson could do a decent job there, though would much, much rather have both).


How many seasons do you think we have said that for? Nearly every summer since transfer windows began we have said that.

Moshiri is realistic, which is why more than likely he will sell for £70m, maybe a little more.
I think Koeman will probably accept that too, he's an ex player, he knows the score.

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Silas on April 24, 2017, 02:08:54 AM

How many seasons do you think we have said that for? Nearly every summer since transfer windows began we have said that.

Moshiri is realistic, which is why more than likely he will sell for £70m, maybe a little more.
I think Koeman will probably accept that too, he's an ex player, he knows the score.



You set the bar high and let people throw in bids knowing we rate him highly. He won't go for 100 if he does but it won't be millions of miles of it if Everton have anything to do with it.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 24, 2017, 02:14:04 AM
You set the bar high and let people throw in bids knowing we rate him highly. He won't go for 100 if he does but it won't be millions of miles of it if Everton have anything to do with it.

I get that we will say £100m, we're not gonna come and say £70m straight off.

I just think he'll realistically go for £70m - £80m at the most.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ross on April 24, 2017, 02:25:39 AM
I get that we will say £100m, we're not gonna come and say £70m straight off.

I just think he'll realistically go for £70m - £80m at the most.

I'll be amazed if we get anything above £70m myself. Just don't think he's as highly thought of outside of L4 as some believe.

He's not got the public profile top players who are sold for those figures have and any club buying him as their star signing is supposed to be making a statement of intent and he's not got that reputation at the moment. 
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: ally2 on April 24, 2017, 02:26:03 AM
so bored of this
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueForYou on April 24, 2017, 02:51:18 AM
Start a new exciting thread
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Paddockoldie on April 24, 2017, 03:09:12 AM
The arse has been kicked out of this now. Time to move on, with or without him.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueForYou on April 24, 2017, 03:31:17 AM
They're the two options
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 24, 2017, 04:02:55 AM
He needs to get an emoji or a dab or a daft haircut and he'll get his dream move.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 24, 2017, 06:32:45 PM

How many seasons do you think we have said that for? Nearly every summer since transfer windows began we have said that.

Moshiri is realistic, which is why more than likely he will sell for £70m, maybe a little more.
I think Koeman will probably accept that too, he's an ex player, he knows the score.



This window, we head into the crucial second season of the Koeman project (WITH Europe), and we are talking about keeping or jettisoning the best striker in the League.  That makes the calculus a bit unique to me.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on April 24, 2017, 06:36:49 PM
Only Messi has scored more league goals in the top European leagues this season.

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Toddacelli on April 24, 2017, 06:52:52 PM
Oh my god can we stop debating things that are clearly never going to happen.




And can we also stop bringing up Suarez every 5 minutes or I'm going to bring up my dinner!

Wouldn't have that scum at our club on a free. Seeing little kids in Royal Blue shirts with Suarez on the back, looking up to him? I'd cry my fucking eyes out every night.

From now on please use someone like Aguero instead please. Thanks :)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueNoseMike on April 24, 2017, 06:56:06 PM
Only Messi has scored more league goals in the top European leagues this season.



Not true unfortunately

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/statistik/goldenerschuh

Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 24, 2017, 07:08:50 PM
This window, we head into the crucial second season of the Koeman project (WITH Europe), and we are talking about keeping or jettisoning the best striker in the League.  That makes the calculus a bit unique to me.

With Europe?
Come on, does that really mean anything to a player when it's just Europa league?

If we were champions league then you could make an arguments that we could match the players ambitions, but after 4 years of him being here, he's shown us loyalty and commitment without us having matched his ambition, it's perfectly resonable for us to honour an acceptable bid for a player that given 4 years of a short career to us.

Lukaku wants to go, that's been made clear, I doubt very much we will keep him here when if he kicks up a fuss, we have never done it before, even the best clubs in the world struggle to keep players that want to leave, unfortunately for us we are not one of the best clubs in the world (yet). Taking our blue tinted spectacles off....if Lukaku expresses that he wants to go, and we get an offer in for £70m+ then we will sell him.
In the past we've managed to get good deals for our players but this level of money is on a different planet to the past.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: pjk on April 24, 2017, 07:18:50 PM
Mbappe is 144th on the list. Offer him 100k+ Offer Monaco £50-60 mill and Mbappe and Monaco might not be able to refuse. He's a real possibility in my book, if Lukaku needs to be replaced. :)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 24, 2017, 07:28:51 PM
Having Europe makes it an extra important season FOR US.  We lose our best player (by far) and it's likely to be a rough campaign.

The key is...we still hold the cards and if 65m wasn't enough last summer, then 70m now is borderline insulting.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 24, 2017, 07:33:32 PM
Mbappe is 144th on the list. Offer him 100k+ Offer Monaco £50-60 mill and Mbappe and Monaco might not be able to refuse. He's a real possibility in my book, if Lukaku needs to be replaced. :)

Not a prayer.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: pjk on April 24, 2017, 07:38:41 PM
Not a prayer.




Don't you think that sort of money would give us a chance then?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 24, 2017, 07:40:03 PM



Don't you think that sort of money would give us a chance then?

Probably the most in demand young player in world football. I don't think money will be the issue. Just think we'd be 864th in the queue.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 24, 2017, 07:40:39 PM



Don't you think that sort of money would give us a chance then?

Definitely not.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Juanito on April 24, 2017, 07:48:25 PM



Don't you think that sort of money would give us a chance then?


I think he is the first teenager to score in every round of the champions league already. He will continue to play for the elite. Players like that, should be playing with Neymar not Mirallas.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: pjk on April 24, 2017, 07:59:41 PM

I think he is the first teenager to score in every round of the champions league already. He will continue to play for the elite. Players like that, should be playing with Neymar not Mirallas.



Oh well! Maybe so, but if we want to be genuine contenders to win anything, they're the sort of players we need. Maybe that one's a non-starter, but we should be looking for the best.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueNoseMike on April 24, 2017, 08:08:27 PM
Just looking at that list of top scorers in europe there's a few options for us. That Bas Dost had a good couple of years at Wolfsburg. Lacazette, think he wouldn't be on the elite clubs radar and he has a brilliant reputation. Then there's that Dollberg at Ajax.

Think even the likes of Icardi and Bellotti would be above us but throw their names into the hat.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: pjk on April 24, 2017, 08:09:39 PM
Just looking at that list of top scorers in europe there's a few options for us. That Bas Dost had a good couple of years at Wolfsburg. Lacazette, think he wouldn't be on the elite clubs radar and he has a brilliant reputation. Then there's that Dollberg at Ajax.

Think even the likes of Icardi and Bellotti would be above us but throw their names into the hat.



That list is where we should be looking. Definitely. :)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 24, 2017, 08:39:37 PM
The above is why we've no practical choice but ride out one more year with Lukaku, add some more talent, and pray we get to Champions League (and get full belief in the Koeman project).  Otherwise, it's a sharp step backwards, and perhaps an embarrassing early exit from Europa.

Rom isn't going to down tools in a World Cup year.  He hasn't even turned in a transfer request, FFS.  His "shot across the bow" was the agent maneuvering with the contract in the press.  Just a pressure move of "you're gonna lose money/equity if you don't sell now."  That's ALL.

But when you look at the big picture - Rom playing on a ridiculously low wage (under what we offered) for a season and a half, then a reduction, at most around 20m on his sale price after next season...have we really lost ANYTHING at all?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lincs Toffee on April 24, 2017, 08:54:39 PM
So then, we have sealed the deal on a Europa spot, there is no way we can or will expect Rom to play all games next season (if he stays), so we have a dilemma in the fact we don't really have anyone else suitable with shooting boots (IMHO)...therefore would it be best if we did let him go along with the likes of Kone and Valencia and bring in a new strike force that is stronger in the aggregate rather than one top striker and lets say 2 others who can just play up front and hope for the best?

Personally for me as much as I would love the big man to stay, I think it would be better for us if we could get in 2/3 good strikers rather than 1 excellent one and 2 shit ones. At least we could rotate them a little more this way.

I say this as I don't think if Rom stays we will be in for another quality striker that's all and we would rely pretty much on what we have...maybe even extending Valencia's loan spell.

Just my thoughts...
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 24, 2017, 09:10:58 PM
Having Europe makes it an extra important season FOR US.  We lose our best player (by far) and it's likely to be a rough campaign.

The key is...we still hold the cards and if 65m wasn't enough last summer, then 70m now is borderline insulting.

Who offered £65m last season?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 24, 2017, 09:19:34 PM
The above is why we've no practical choice but ride out one more year with Lukaku, add some more talent, and pray we get to Champions League (and get full belief in the Koeman project).  Otherwise, it's a sharp step backwards, and perhaps an embarrassing early exit from Europa.

Rom isn't going to down tools in a World Cup year.  He hasn't even turned in a transfer request, FFS.  His "shot across the bow" was the agent maneuvering with the contract in the press.  Just a pressure move of "you're gonna lose money/equity if you don't sell now."  That's ALL.

But when you look at the big picture - Rom playing on a ridiculously low wage (under what we offered) for a season and a half, then a reduction, at most around 20m on his sale price after next season...have we really lost ANYTHING at all?

The practical choice is to pray we get champions league?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueNoseMike on April 24, 2017, 09:24:21 PM
The above is why we've no practical choice but ride out one more year with Lukaku, add some more talent, and pray we get to Champions League (and get full belief in the Koeman project).  Otherwise, it's a sharp step backwards, and perhaps an embarrassing early exit from Europa.

Rom isn't going to down tools in a World Cup year.  He hasn't even turned in a transfer request, FFS.  His "shot across the bow" was the agent maneuvering with the contract in the press.  Just a pressure move of "you're gonna lose money/equity if you don't sell now."  That's ALL.

But when you look at the big picture - Rom playing on a ridiculously low wage (under what we offered) for a season and a half, then a reduction, at most around 20m on his sale price after next season...have we really lost ANYTHING at all?

There's been plenty of situations in football where teams have lost the star man and have then managed to improve as a team without him. I'd love for him to stay but do feel confident we can still compete if he left*. The list of top scorers in europe has given me more confidence in that there are a few decent strikers at teams that make us look like a good proposition in comparison. Lacazette is champions league level and has consistently scored goals. I also think he slips under the radar and would be a possible target. There are also others. Yes we aren't going to get a 25 goal man, but what if we can get 2 forwards who can give you 10 to 15 goals each and also have the qualities that Lukaku doesn't have.


*I'd feel very confident if he stayed. If he stayed and we added the quality we currently need we can definitely compete in the top 4 and even title mix.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: pjk on April 24, 2017, 09:28:31 PM
So then, we have sealed the deal on a Europa spot, there is no way we can or will expect Rom to play all games next season (if he stays), so we have a dilemma in the fact we don't really have anyone else suitable with shooting boots (IMHO)...therefore would it be best if we did let him go along with the likes of Kone and Valencia and bring in a new strike force that is stronger in the aggregate rather than one top striker and lets say 2 others who can just play up front and hope for the best?

Personally for me as much as I would love the big man to stay, I think it would be better for us if we could get in 2/3 good strikers rather than 1 excellent one and 2 shit ones. At least we could rotate them a little more this way.

I say this as I don't think if Rom stays we will be in for another quality striker that's all and we would rely pretty much on what we have...maybe even extending Valencia's loan spell.

Just my thoughts...



I would think if Rom stays, we need to bring in another high quality playmaker of a type striker, of a much higher level than what Valencia has provided. Valencia has been ok, but I think ok has been the level. :)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Waltzer on April 24, 2017, 09:32:32 PM
There's been plenty of situations in football where teams have lost the star man and have then managed to improve as a team without him. I'd love for him to stay but do feel confident we can still compete if he left*. The list of top scorers in europe has given me more confidence in that there are a few decent strikers at teams that make us look like a good proposition in comparison. Lacazette is champions league level and has consistently scored goals. I also think he slips under the radar and would be a possible target. There are also others. Yes we aren't going to get a 25 goal man, but what if we can get 2 forwards who can give you 10 to 15 goals each and also have the qualities that Lukaku doesn't have.


*I'd feel very confident if he stayed. If he stayed and we added the quality we currently need we can definitely compete in the top 4 and even title mix.

Given the recruitment policy I think we'd be more likely to go for someone like Dembele from Celtic or Josh King over Lacazette, as much as id like us to be in for higher calibre proven players I cant see it just yet. There will be risk associated but teams above us have counterbalanced the lack of a Lukaku by getting a much better spread of goals throughout the team and I think this is where our recruitment needs to be stronger, the interest in players like Sigurdsson would be good additions
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Robioto on April 24, 2017, 09:38:25 PM
Mbappe is 144th on the list. Offer him 100k+ Offer Monaco £50-60 mill and Mbappe and Monaco might not be able to refuse. He's a real possibility in my book, if Lukaku needs to be replaced. :)

Absolutely no chance. We will be a long way down a queue of teams headed up by the best teams in the world who want to sign him. Also Monaco are almost certainly way ahead of us on that list as well.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueNoseMike on April 24, 2017, 09:39:36 PM


I would think if Rom stays, we need to bring in another high quality playmaker of a type striker, of a much higher level than what Valencia has provided. Valencia has been ok, but I think ok has been the level. :)

This is the way to go. We've been blessed with Rom really with the lack of any real long term injuries. We've never been able to bring in a great 2nd option because nobody good is coming to Everton to be an obvious 2nd choice. Your approach is better, somebody who can play across the 3 and knows that they have a chance of being a regular in a different position but can then slot in upfront. Even Kone, who has been our best 2nd choice striker during Rom's time here was bought before we snapped Rom up and may not have come had he known the circumstances.

Someone like that Iniaki Williams can play across the 3 can't he? Infact, to be fair most modern day strikers have that flexibility, Rom is a rare traditional number 9
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueNoseMike on April 24, 2017, 09:47:03 PM
Given the recruitment policy I think we'd be more likely to go for someone like Dembele from Celtic or Josh King over Lacazette, as much as id like us to be in for higher calibre proven players I cant see it just yet. There will be risk associated but teams above us have counterbalanced the lack of a Lukaku by getting a much better spread of goals throughout the team and I think this is where our recruitment needs to be stronger, the interest in players like Sigurdsson would be good additions

That's a fair enough comment but I think the Everton of 2017 is a different beast to recent times. Do we really think Koeman is going to accept going straight in for the likes of King (who btw I'd definitely snap us a back up to Rom if he stayed)? Do you think Moshiri isn't going to aim for higher quality players? I am confident we will try to be ambitious in the summer. I'm confident that players of Lacazette's ilk could have their heads turned by us as well.

And yes I 100% agree we'd need more from midfield. Like I say if we can replace a 25 goal man with 2 15 goal men and more creativity and goals from midfield we will have done brilliantly and probably improved as well. Obviously I'd rather keep the 25 goal man, add a back up who can get 10 goals and then add creativity and goals from midfield on top of that.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: pjk on April 24, 2017, 09:56:41 PM
Absolutely no chance. We will be a long way down a queue of teams headed up by the best teams in the world who want to sign him. Also Monaco are almost certainly way ahead of us on that list as well.



As I mentioned earlier on in the thread, maybe so, but we need to looking in and around that area if we're going to start winning things. We really do need to be trying to get the best, or we will very likely, continue as also rans. Over to you Steve Walsh. :)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 24, 2017, 10:00:24 PM


As I mentioned earlier on in the thread, maybe so, but we need to looking in and around that area if we're going to start winning things. We really do need to be trying to get the best, or we will very likely, continue as also rans. Over to you Steve Walsh. :)


We need to find the next 1 rather than sign someone who's announced themselves like he has. He'll go for 100m and to a club a million miles ahead of us
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueNoseMike on April 24, 2017, 10:01:38 PM


As I mentioned earlier on in the thread, maybe so, but we need to looking in and around that area if we're going to start winning things. We really do need to be trying to get the best, or we will very likely, continue as also rans. Over to you Steve Walsh. :)


Agree with this but we need be careful we don't get a bit of the West Ham's about us ('we are in for this top player, and this one and this one'). Also need be smarter with our aims. Mbappe is slightly above us, and we don't want to be left hanging like last summer and ultimately ended up with not much in the end.

No doubt Walsh and whoever have already put feelers out. They probably have 3-4 targets for if Rom stays, and probably can add another 3-4 as a replacement. We probably know who'd be interested and have spoke to agents
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 24, 2017, 10:14:30 PM
Absolutely no chance. We will be a long way down a queue of teams headed up by the best teams in the world who want to sign him. Also Monaco are almost certainly way ahead of us on that list as well.

Monaco could very well be playing in the UCL finals next month.  They're a wonderful side to watch.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 24, 2017, 10:15:45 PM


As I mentioned earlier on in the thread, maybe so, but we need to looking in and around that area if we're going to start winning things. We really do need to be trying to get the best, or we will very likely, continue as also rans. Over to you Steve Walsh. :)


We would have a much better chance next summer after making further progress in the Koeman project.  Again, it's why you can't sell Rom yet.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Juanito on April 25, 2017, 04:38:50 AM


Oh well! Maybe so, but if we want to be genuine contenders to win anything, they're the sort of players we need. Maybe that one's a non-starter, but we should be looking for the best.

I like your optimism! Nil satis nisi optimum all the way.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Juanito on April 25, 2017, 04:41:09 AM
This is the way to go. We've been blessed with Rom really with the lack of any real long term injuries. We've never been able to bring in a great 2nd option because nobody good is coming to Everton to be an obvious 2nd choice. Your approach is better, somebody who can play across the 3 and knows that they have a chance of being a regular in a different position but can then slot in upfront. Even Kone, who has been our best 2nd choice striker during Rom's time here was bought before we snapped Rom up and may not have come had he known the circumstances.

Someone like that Iniaki Williams can play across the 3 can't he? Infact, to be fair most modern day strikers have that flexibility, Rom is a rare traditional number 9

Williams is a great shout and Bilbao won't be in the champions league next year.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: brap2 on April 25, 2017, 05:20:15 AM
we haven't really got anyone over the line with this 'exciting new project' yet, and in fact we look like losing our two Crown Jewels with a third young talent walking out the back door after being told to swerve it.

I'm concerned it's going to be a long summer of clubs like Napoli just saying 'nah' and players waiting for Arsenal or Spurs to come in for them instead.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 25, 2017, 12:48:14 PM
we haven't really got anyone over the line with this 'exciting new project' yet, and in fact we look like losing our two Crown Jewels with a third young talent walking out the back door after being told to swerve it.

I'm concerned it's going to be a long summer of clubs like Napoli just saying 'nah' and players waiting for Arsenal or Spurs to come in for them instead.

I take your point but we're in a stronger position than last summer, with European football to offer and a season of Koeman's improvements as evidence of growth. It will be an incredibly competitive market again this summer, and plenty of clubs will miss out on signings. That's inevitable.

I'd like to think that Steve Walsh's transfer bunker involves numerous options for each of the positions we want to fill. And hopefully that additional year of experience, learning from last summer's errors, will mean that we aren't strung along all summer by people like Witsel, for example. We should be in a position to say 'listen lad, are you signing or not, because if not we'll go for this other lad from Villarreal'. I don't think the excuses of last year will wash with the fanbase, and rightly so.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: brap2 on April 25, 2017, 02:23:47 PM
I take your point but we're in a stronger position than last summer, with European football to offer and a season of Koeman's improvements as evidence of growth. It will be an incredibly competitive market again this summer, and plenty of clubs will miss out on signings. That's inevitable.

I'd like to think that Steve Walsh's transfer bunker involves numerous options for each of the positions we want to fill. And hopefully that additional year of experience, learning from last summer's errors, will mean that we aren't strung along all summer by people like Witsel, for example. We should be in a position to say 'listen lad, are you signing or not, because if not we'll go for this other lad from Villarreal'. I don't think the excuses of last year will wash with the fanbase, and rightly so.

Yeah, hopefully we look like a better prospect than last year, and Lukaku bailing doesn't undo that work.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Silas on April 25, 2017, 02:26:10 PM
we haven't really got anyone over the line with this 'exciting new project' yet, and in fact we look like losing our two Crown Jewels with a third young talent walking out the back door after being told to swerve it.

I'm concerned it's going to be a long summer of clubs like Napoli just saying 'nah' and players waiting for Arsenal or Spurs to come in for them instead.

I share your concerns but I think we will go early for targets and if we miss out move onto the next and a few of them will come.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: School of Science on April 25, 2017, 02:41:26 PM
I share your concerns but I think we will go early for targets and if we miss out move onto the next and a few of them will come.

Yes see where your coming from there, May sound silly but at this time, we should have a list of 5 or 6 strikers, wingers, defenders and goalkeepers. We cannot afford to have the pre season where we finished up throwing darts on the final day of the transfer window.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Alanvideo on April 25, 2017, 02:47:30 PM
If our season is starting at the end of July we really need to get cracking. I'm sure the club will have identified targets and I'm equally sure they are working on the assumption Lukaku is going.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Hawkandro on April 25, 2017, 02:53:23 PM
We do need to get the players in early this year. Real statement of intent needed.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 25, 2017, 06:18:55 PM
We do need to get the players in early this year. Real statement of intent needed.

Easier said than done really. This impressive season has put us in a similar market as the teams above us in terms of potential players (i.e. Keane) and if so we'll likely lose out every time.

We either move very swiftly with pots of cash, which may still not be enough or we get creative. 
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Toddacelli on April 25, 2017, 06:52:53 PM
We either move very swiftly with pots of cash, which may still not be enough or we get creative. 

Unmarked SUV and some muscle on standby.... Walsh & The Lads!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on April 25, 2017, 07:20:50 PM
Unmarked SUV and some muscle on standby.... Walsh & The Lads!

I'm sure Moshiri and Usmanov know some nice gentleman with persuasive powers.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Toddacelli on April 25, 2017, 07:30:32 PM
I'm sure Moshiri and Usmanov know some nice gentleman with persuasive powers.

How many times do we have to go over this - the multi-billionaire football fan and Russian steel oligarch, Alisher Usmanov, has nothing at all to do with Everton Football Club.

I know this because it was in an official club press release the other day from USM Finch Farm

 ;)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on April 25, 2017, 07:52:18 PM
Has Lukaku signed yet?

"No"

Ok then
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: TheTone on April 25, 2017, 08:19:25 PM
if he is sold then hope it's done early, can't be dealing with this saga rumbling on all through the summer
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 25, 2017, 08:37:53 PM
Yeah, hopefully we look like a better prospect than last year, and Lukaku bailing doesn't undo that work.

I think I agree with you both, in that Rom bailing WOULD undo that work, which is why we will squeeze one more year out of him.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueNoseMike on April 25, 2017, 09:01:40 PM
I think I agree with you both, in that Rom bailing WOULD undo that work, which is why we will squeeze one more year out of him.

If it was as black and white as keep Rom and get top 4 or get rid and don't, then it's obvious to keep him.

But it's not, we might keep him and struggle. We might sell and do extremely well. As I've said before there are plenty of times when teams have improved when selling their star player/striker, so for me if it's 70-80 mil this year we will probably take it
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 25, 2017, 09:14:53 PM
Survived without rooney. Survived without lineker. I really don't know why people think we can't progress without lukaku too. A much worse Everton than this 1 attracted lukaku in the first place. Do we not have faith that koeman and Walsh can keep us moving forwards?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 25, 2017, 09:25:58 PM
We would be in much better position the following summer.  Now is too early, Koeman needs to show this season wasn't a fluke/just picking the low-hanging fruit.  And we don't need to have a "rebuild year" while starting Europa matches in July.

It's about our high-leverage position on the win curve.  It's a good time (in poker terms) to push our chips to the middle and try to make an aggressive forward move.  This isn't about survival.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 25, 2017, 09:35:04 PM
We would be in much better position the following summer.  Now is too early, Koeman needs to show this season wasn't a fluke/just picking the low-hanging fruit.  And we don't need to have a "rebuild year" while starting Europa matches in July.

It's about our high-leverage position on the win curve.  It's a good time (in poker terms) to push our chips to the middle and try to make an aggressive forward move.  This isn't about survival.

This was obviously a tongue in cheek post as there's no words in capitals.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 25, 2017, 09:35:53 PM
Survived without rooney. Survived without lineker. I really don't know why people think we can't progress without lukaku too. A much worse Everton than this 1 attracted lukaku in the first place. Do we not have faith that koeman and Walsh can keep us moving forwards?

Of course we'll survive and we might eventually even prosper. You're oversimplifying the argument that you're disagreeing with. Nobody thinks we wouldn't survive or that there aren't other excellent players out there. It's more that some people think the more likely route to Top 4 next season is to keep Lukaku and support him with more quality in various positions. Not to forget the issue of strengthening a direct rival.

You disagree - no worries. I can understand your argument and maybe we could conceivably get Top 4 both ways. This is for Koeman, Moshiri and Walsh to weigh up, but it's by no means a clear cut decision. Both approaches have merit.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 25, 2017, 09:35:59 PM
We would be in much better position the following summer.  Now is too early, Koeman needs to show this season wasn't a fluke/just picking the low-hanging fruit.  And we don't need to have a "rebuild year" while starting Europa matches in July.

It's about our high-leverage position on the win curve.  It's a good time (in poker terms) to push our chips to the middle and try to make an aggressive forward move.  This isn't about survival.

It's a risk, but a risk that's worth taking. We're done with conservative measures, the only way to really grow is to take risks and aim high. You don't get anywhere in life playing it easy.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on April 25, 2017, 09:38:40 PM
It's a risk, but a risk that's worth taking. We're done with conservative measures, the only way to really grow is to take risks and aim high. You don't get anywhere in life playing it easy.

It's nice to find something we unequivocally agree on. Building bridges across the divide and all that ;)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 25, 2017, 09:40:08 PM
It's nice to find something we unequivocally agree on. Building bridges across the divide and all that ;)

I think we've had the odd bi-partisan agreement in the past :) But yes, it's nice to be in agreement than at odds.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueNoseMike on April 25, 2017, 11:00:19 PM
We would be in much better position the following summer.

Would we though? What if we finish 7th again, which is as likely, if not more, as finishing in the top 4 with or without Lukaku. I'm not sure we can write off what would be 30 million for that level of uncertainty.

Let's not forget the one thig everyone has praised Moshiri most for is that he is a sesible businessman. Yes he has high ambitions for us but logically we probably should sell Rom if he doesn't sign his contract.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Toddacelli on April 25, 2017, 11:13:55 PM
But if Lukaku stays AND we get Rooney - those are two names in the squad that would attract other big names....


(http://i.imgur.com/O3uuoZg.gif)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 25, 2017, 11:45:10 PM
It's a risk, but a risk that's worth taking. We're done with conservative measures, the only way to really grow is to take risks and aim high. You don't get anywhere in life playing it easy.

Agreed.  And eventually, you have to quit kicking the can down the road, make a stand, take a chance and really go for it.  If you lose 20-25m of sales price on Lukaku, so be it.  To me, that seems like a very light downside risk considering the upside, and just how exciting it would be to experience such a season (whether we make it to the Top 4, win Europa or a Cup, or not).
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Paddockoldie on April 25, 2017, 11:59:38 PM
The risks of keeping him another season aren't that great really. If he stays, we invest and get top 4 he gets what he craves. If we don't he leaves.. the fact is he'll keep scoring so will keep a value way, way over what we paid for him... other teams will but him because he scored and the price will remain high because it's the going rate. I say he stays and take the chance.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: 74Blue on April 26, 2017, 03:21:59 AM
Let's not forget that next season is World Cup year, so we've got fuck all to lose keeping hold of Lukaku. He's hardly going to down tools with THE elite competition looming, and then there's the added bonus of the silly amounts that get added to player valuations offthe back of a reasonable showing in a World Cup.
What did the shite pay for El Hadji Diouf and Salif Diao off the back of a couple of decentperformances in a WC?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 26, 2017, 03:26:20 AM
Let's not forget that next season is World Cup year, so we've got fuck all to lose keeping hold of Lukaku. He's hardly going to down tools with THE elite competition looming, and then there's the added bonus of the silly amounts that get added to player valuations offthe back of a reasonable showing in a World Cup.
What did the shite pay for El Hadji Diouf and Salif Diao off the back of a couple of decentperformances in a WC?

Indeed.  The downside is capped at 20-25m, barring injury.  We won't have a disruption.  Plus, Rom has always been a model professional.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ramjam on April 26, 2017, 04:11:27 AM
He doesn't want to down tools now, Costa is hot on his heels for the golden boot after his brace against Southampton. In fact it might just give him the kick up the arse he needs to finish the rest of the season on the front foot.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on April 26, 2017, 02:49:51 PM
Van Dijyk to Liverpool and Keane to United should be loud and clear alarm bells to all you guys thinking we are in the same market as those teams above us.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Cereal Killer on April 26, 2017, 03:06:52 PM
Van Dijyk to Liverpool and Keane to United should be loud and clear alarm bells to all you guys thinking we are in the same market as those teams above us.

these are just rumours tho, and we've been linked with the same rumours, so therefore we are in the same market?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on April 26, 2017, 03:07:55 PM
these are just rumours tho, and we've been linked with the same rumours, so therefore we are in the same market?

ok, i'll rephrase. You need to rethink if you think we stand a chance of attracting players in that market.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Cereal Killer on April 26, 2017, 03:09:53 PM
ok, i'll rephrase. You need to rethink if you think we stand a chance of attracting players in that market.

I'd like to wait and judge on when someone actually goes somewhere, at the moment it's all just paper talk, which is largely bullshit. Agree VVD will probably be beyond us (but not to the shite) but Keane is definitely attainable
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Alanvideo on April 26, 2017, 03:38:10 PM
Doubt if we'll get Keane or VVD if they get offers from so-called bigger clubs.   I'm sure we can match them financially but we're still not perceived as a 'big ' club by many players. Besides ,Keane has history with Man U.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on April 26, 2017, 03:40:06 PM
Doubt if we'll get Keane or VVD if they get offers from so-called bigger clubs.   I'm sure we can match them financially but we're still not perceived as a 'big ' club by many players. Besides ,Keane has history with Man U.

Keane definitely wants Spurs.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ramjam on April 26, 2017, 03:52:33 PM
Doubt if we'll get Keane or VVD if they get offers from so-called bigger clubs.   I'm sure we can match them financially but we're still not perceived as a 'big ' club by many players. Besides ,Keane has history with Man U.

Fuckin right he has history with them, they told him he was surplus to requirements as he wasn't good enough, why would he want to go back there, same as Lukaku with Chelsea, they didn't want him either. Difficult to understand the way some of these players think.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Cereal Killer on April 26, 2017, 03:55:24 PM
Keane definitely wants Spurs.

Probably the only top 7 team that doesn't actually need a first choice centre back?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on April 26, 2017, 03:57:48 PM
Probably the only top 7 team that doesn't actually need a first choice centre back?

Dier going to United.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: MarcusFenix on April 26, 2017, 03:59:33 PM
Keane definitely wants Spurs.

To replace who? Vertonghen, Alderweireld ? Keane is not at the level they are and rumours have said Keane wants 1st team regular playing time. Something he would get with us but not Spurs
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ross on April 26, 2017, 04:02:12 PM
Ladies and gentlemen welcome to 16th biannual general transfer chitchat thread..
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: MarcusFenix on April 26, 2017, 04:02:17 PM
Fuckin right he has history with them, they told him he was surplus to requirements as he wasn't good enough, why would he want to go back there, same as Lukaku with Chelsea, they didn't want him either. Difficult to understand the way some of these players think.

Maybe it was Ferguson/Moyes who told Keane he wasn't good enough and maybe it was Mourinho for Lukaku. Seeing as they have  new managers maybe Lukaku is good enough for Conte and likewise Keane with Mourinho
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Alanvideo on April 26, 2017, 04:08:11 PM
Fuckin right he has history with them, they told him he was surplus to requirements as he wasn't good enough, why would he want to go back there, same as Lukaku with Chelsea, they didn't want him either. Difficult to understand the way some of these players think.
..................... I'm sure they would both like their former clubs to pay huge transfer fees and massive salaries to get back what they gave away.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: brap2 on April 26, 2017, 04:18:43 PM
Keane definitely wants Spurs.

Thought he'd told a fan he wants Utd? Either way sounds like we're fucked
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: 74Blue on April 26, 2017, 07:57:23 PM
Fuckin right he has history with them, they told him he was surplus to requirements as he wasn't good enough, why would he want to go back there, same as Lukaku with Chelsea, they didn't want him either. Difficult to understand the way some of these players think.
The satisfaction of them having to admit that they were wrong to let you leave and effectively begging you to come home.
Then there's the money. When there's all that humble pie to be eaten, you can just keep talking salary whilst they try to digest it all. It's a lot easier to demand even more when they have had to come crawling back.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on April 26, 2017, 08:28:12 PM
But but but didn't the Burnley form say the deal was done for him to come to us??????

People are getting into a bit of a tizz over an above average CB.

There are much better players in his position available. (Just don't ask me who).
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ramjam on April 27, 2017, 08:40:04 AM
The RS are throwing their toys out of the pram on their forum over suggestions that they are in pole position to sign Keane, they reckon he ent even good enough for us as they get ready for a protest.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Fynci on April 27, 2017, 01:41:21 PM
Lukaku thread has been hijacked!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 29, 2017, 02:16:08 AM
Matt law..   Again
He must have had a few bob on him joining Chelsea

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/04/28/romelu-lukaku-still-loves-chelsea-makes-sense-buy-back/
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 30, 2017, 02:35:02 AM
someone is back on the lemo

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/sounds-mad-cure-striker-issues-10322591
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Brownie20 on April 30, 2017, 03:17:20 AM
someone is back on the lemo

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/sounds-mad-cure-striker-issues-10322591

Hahahaha fuck off you cocaine-snorting, big nosed has-been (not you Liz)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 30, 2017, 03:39:14 AM
Fowler is right, lukaku would fire Liverpool to being closer to contenders

No way he'd go there tho hopefully
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: American Evertonian on April 30, 2017, 05:30:49 AM
Fowler is right, lukaku would fire Liverpool to being closer to contenders

No way he'd go there tho hopefully

No way we'd sell to them unless they paid double the fee.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: School of Science on April 30, 2017, 05:42:58 AM
Doesn't close down enough for Liverpool, one year of Klopp would kill Lukaku.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: ally2 on April 30, 2017, 05:51:01 AM
Just as long as we don't end up with wobbly arms
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Gash on April 30, 2017, 06:22:47 AM
Just as long as we don't end up with wobbly arms

He's got West Ham written all over him.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 30, 2017, 06:57:31 AM
I would rather our moe-ron President just blow the entire stupid planet up already than have Rom sold across the park, and no, I don't mean that as hyperbole.  Not at any cost.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ross on April 30, 2017, 07:08:41 AM
He's got West Ham written all over him.

TBH I've never been able to understand what these tattoos on footballers say myself.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on April 30, 2017, 07:42:15 AM
I would rather our moe-ron President just blow the entire stupid planet up already than have Rom sold across the park, and no, I don't mean that as hyperbole.  Not at any cost.
Well let's at least win the league first,eh?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Frevski on April 30, 2017, 09:10:14 AM
He's got West Ham written all over him.
Are you on party drugs!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: JordanianEmbassy on May 02, 2017, 04:12:45 PM
Keep him for another year but starting looking for his replacement now. That gives us 3 transfer windows to replace him (this summer, next January, and then summer 2018). Would be interesting if we found someone in the first or second window, and kept him as well.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Hawkandro on May 02, 2017, 06:25:58 PM
Keep him for another year but starting looking for his replacement now. That gives us 3 transfer windows to replace him (this summer, next January, and then summer 2018). Would be interesting if we found someone in the first or second window, and kept him as well.

I imagine Koeman and Walsh already have his replacement in mind, just like (you would hope) they have his backup in mind too.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Polledreng on May 02, 2017, 08:05:50 PM
Well let's at least win the league first,eh?
Not sure your president is that patient
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Paddockoldie on May 03, 2017, 02:59:14 AM
I'll call it now. Rom will put in a transfer request at the end of the season. I hope he doesn't but he will try and force his sale by triggering his desire to leave. Whether anyone pays is another thing.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on May 03, 2017, 03:56:08 AM
I'll call it now. Rom will put in a transfer request at the end of the season. I hope he doesn't but he will try and force his sale by triggering his desire to leave. Whether anyone pays is another thing.

He isn't going to put in a transfer request unless he knows someone is ready to pay the fees or close to and he wants to go there,
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: DIXIEDEAN on May 03, 2017, 04:09:24 AM
correct me if I'm wrong but does him putting a transfer request in just tell us what we already know and it still can't force us to sell ?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ridge on May 03, 2017, 04:48:19 AM
Transfer requests often seem to be contractually relevant, surrendering a loyalty bonus or activating a clause, or they are pretty much like a letter to santa.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 03, 2017, 04:49:36 AM
correct me if I'm wrong but does him putting a transfer request in just tell us what we already know and it still can't force us to sell ?


That's true and I think generally it will mean he's not entitled to certain bonuses.
I assume it's financial as to the money we'd then save and it helps explain a sale to the fans. Past that it doesn't mean much of anything
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Alanvideo on May 04, 2017, 10:07:44 PM
slightly off topic ,Koeman quoted in the Echo today..........
<< “It’s a big project and I will be a part of that project.
“It’s normal that they ask me questions about Barcelona but there’s no chance I will leave before my contract ends.”  >>
Good to hear ,hope it rubs off on Lukaku.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: formerKHL on May 04, 2017, 10:12:56 PM
That's true and I think generally it will mean he's not entitled to certain bonuses.
I assume it's financial as to the money we'd then save and it helps explain a sale to the fans. Past that it doesn't mean much of anything

it means they are effectively giving their notice in...and thus relinquish any entitlement to any end of term contractual bonuses. payments and transfer percentages
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Major Clanger on May 04, 2017, 10:14:58 PM
it means they are effectively giving their notice in...and thus relinquish any entitlement to any end of term contractual bonuses. payments and transfer percentages

So it is very much in the selling club's interest to push players they're desperate to sell to hand in a transfer request.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: formerKHL on May 04, 2017, 10:30:26 PM
yes or manipulate a move out eg: aiden mcgeady...
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Robioto on May 04, 2017, 10:40:57 PM
correct me if I'm wrong but does him putting a transfer request in just tell us what we already know and it still can't force us to sell ?


Yes, the only plus from our point of view is we don't have to pay his loyalty fee if he formally requests a transfer. Assuming he has one in his contract, which he probably does.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bobbyconrad on May 04, 2017, 10:49:28 PM
slightly off topic ,Koeman quoted in the Echo today..........
<< “It’s a big project and I will be a part of that project.
“It’s normal that they ask me questions about Barcelona but there’s no chance I will leave before my contract ends.”  >>
Good to hear ,hope it rubs off on Lukaku.


I hope he means it, but I remember him saying the same about 2 weeks before he went on Holiday for a month and signed for us so I'm taking everything with a pinch of salt and this year Im not getting mad about this sort of thing. I'm having a "they all fuck off at some point" attitude, sometimes the timing is good, other times its a bit shitty, but we always survive
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 05, 2017, 01:54:00 AM

I hope he means it, but I remember him saying the same about 2 weeks before he went on Holiday for a month and signed for us so I'm taking everything with a pinch of salt and this year Im not getting mad about this sort of thing. I'm having a "they all fuck off at some point" attitude, sometimes the timing is good, other times its a bit shitty, but we always survive

Wasn't the issue with Southampton that they didn't want him to see out his contract. They were insisting on him signing another? Sure I read that somewhere
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 05, 2017, 01:54:34 AM
Wasn't the issue with Southampton that they didn't want him to see out his contract. They were insisting on him signing another? Sure I read that somewhere
That and they kept selling their best players
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: GLewis on May 05, 2017, 01:57:32 AM
Wasn't the issue with Southampton that they didn't want him to see out his contract. They were insisting on him signing another? Sure I read that somewhere

Yes I think he had a year left and they were offering him a new deal which I presume he didn't want to commit to.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on May 05, 2017, 12:22:08 PM
Which is almost certainly what will happen with us as well.

Another factor about transfer requests is that you relinquish any rights you had to the wages you were going to receive.

That's similar to the severance type pay we paid Martinez. Also, it's why Leeds were fucked and you had stories of them still paying the likes of Fowler £40k a week when he was playing elsewhere.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Hawkandro on May 05, 2017, 02:38:12 PM
Wasn't the issue with Southampton that they didn't want him to see out his contract. They were insisting on him signing another? Sure I read that somewhere

Yep, they were trying to force him to sign a new deal, and he wanted assurances about transfers they weren't prepared to give, IIRC.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on May 08, 2017, 06:54:50 AM
Not happy by all accounts.

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/05/08/angry-everton-ace-romelu-lukaku-sends-message-on-twitter/
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Goaljira on May 08, 2017, 01:04:39 PM
Not happy by all accounts.

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/05/08/angry-everton-ace-romelu-lukaku-sends-message-on-twitter/

Youve got to love the sequence of replies to a tweet where someone moans about a 'glory hunting' iranian fan and is then reminded of Farhad Moshiri's heritage.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ramjam on May 08, 2017, 01:24:26 PM
So it's not all about the club he loves so much and has supported all his life where he has unfinished business, hmmm
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Paddockoldie on May 08, 2017, 01:33:25 PM
He needs a team where he doesn't have to help defend, doesn't have to run about too much or drag defenders around creating space for others. They also need to pay him very well and play in the CL. Good luck Rom
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on May 08, 2017, 02:39:01 PM
Notice he didn't have a go at all the papers linking him to chelsea.
Only had a go at a paper saying he was going to snub Chelsea to go to United.

Reckon that's it then to be fair. Thought we may keep him for a year, but dont think we will now.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on May 08, 2017, 02:46:54 PM
Its boring me now, if he goes then get it done quickly so we can move on
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Paddockoldie on May 08, 2017, 04:18:41 PM
Notice he didn't have a go at all the papers linking him to chelsea.
Only had a go at a paper saying he was going to snub Chelsea to go to United.

Reckon that's it then to be fair. Thought we may keep him for a year, but dont think we will now.

Tbh mate. We might struggle to sell him at the price we're asking.. he creates his own doubts when he doesn't trouble the bigger teams when we play them. I think he'll be here next season.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Waltzer on May 08, 2017, 04:56:29 PM
Tbh mate. We might struggle to sell him at the price we're asking.. he creates his own doubts when he doesn't trouble the bigger teams when we play them. I think he'll be here next season.

There were stats to prove this was BS a couple of weeks ago. He has the best scoring record this season against the 'top teams' when compared to any other strikers in the league. The facts are that yes he doesn't score as many against the top teams as he does against others but you'd expect that as they're better and chance harder to come by!!
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on May 08, 2017, 05:08:55 PM
I normally defend him but he's behaved like a bit of a tit in this instance, pissing and moaning because one of the nasty papers said something mean about his dream move.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Paddockoldie on May 08, 2017, 05:30:28 PM
There were stats to prove this was BS a couple of weeks ago. He has the best scoring record this season against the 'top teams' when compared to any other strikers in the league. The facts are that yes he doesn't score as many against the top teams as he does against others but you'd expect that as they're better and chance harder to come by!!

Well.. one of us will be wrong and I'm not arsed if it's me, but in the recent big games he was pretty ineffective and easily marked out the games. I hope he stays but I'd take the money if good enough... we'll survive.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on May 08, 2017, 06:44:18 PM
I thin kour £100m asking price is just a way of stopping time wasters coming in with bids of £50m.

He'll go for somewhere  between £75m & £80m i reckon.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on May 08, 2017, 07:23:55 PM
Just hope whatever is going to be to be done is done within hours of the season ending so Walsh can get out his Plan A briefcase which contains a huge fuckin cheque book and passport.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 09, 2017, 03:58:37 AM
uh oh he is trouble with twitter mafia. Retweeting about Anderlecht U20 winning league but nothing about our lads....
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Goaljira on May 09, 2017, 04:02:39 AM
uh oh he is trouble with twitter mafia. Retweeting about Anderlecht U20 winning league but nothing about our lads....

Why would anyone possibly be arsed over him not being arsed about something that means the square root of fuck all to him?

He's not an Evertonian.  Hes never played for our U23s.  Hes not going to be here to play with any of them next season.

When my company wins awards for things i've had no involvement with i couldnt give a fuck about them.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: sam of the south on May 09, 2017, 04:06:45 AM
I normally defend him but he's behaved like a bit of a tit in this instance, pissing and moaning because one of the nasty papers said something mean about his dream move.

Indeed, he likes to orchestrate the narrative of stories about himself.

"Brent mused.."
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blob on May 09, 2017, 04:13:44 AM
fuck him. next.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: bacon sarnie on May 09, 2017, 05:58:37 AM
Has he gone yet?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on May 09, 2017, 07:02:00 AM
This is all a ploy so we don't get pissed when he does leave.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: JordanianEmbassy on May 09, 2017, 03:22:43 PM
Has he gone yet?

Yes, before lunch! :)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluenose 91 on May 09, 2017, 06:48:16 PM
All the man babies on Twitter on his case over that Anderlecht retweet. 

Genuinely don't know how people have it in them to act arsed about stuff like that.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on May 09, 2017, 07:41:49 PM
All the man babies on Twitter on his case over that Anderlecht retweet. 

Genuinely don't know how people have it in them to act arsed about stuff like that.

Usually people with very low IQ and boring lives. Twitter gives them an outlet that society doesn't. Everyone can be relevant within 30 characters.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: bacon sarnie on May 09, 2017, 08:02:30 PM
Yes, before lunch! :)

Meant Chelsea - not the lav.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 09, 2017, 08:12:22 PM
All the man babies on Twitter on his case over that Anderlecht retweet. 

Genuinely don't know how people have it in them to act arsed about stuff like that.

Some lunatics on there. Had 100s annoying moshiris niece about transfers. I mean like she know she or cares never mind has any influence over if we sign Juan Mata or not. Twitter is the lowest common denominator
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on May 09, 2017, 08:23:37 PM
This is all a ploy so we don't get pissed when he does leave.

I think there's some truth to that. Already seeing a lot of people saying 'oh just get rid of him, I can't be arsed with all this anymore'.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Cereal Killer on May 09, 2017, 09:12:42 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/manchester-united-transfer-news-romelu-lukaku-not-good-enough-rene-meulensteen-a7724766.html

 lolol
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on May 09, 2017, 09:21:45 PM
I think there's some truth to that. Already seeing a lot of people saying 'oh just get rid of him, I can't be arsed with all this anymore'.

And it's ironic, because whatever he does or says in no way affects their lives one iota.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on May 09, 2017, 09:29:58 PM
I'm pretty ambivalent about the whole thing now. At some stage he'll leave us and we'll have to replace him, whether it's this year or next so if it's this summer then so be it. If he's convinced to stay one more year then fine. I'm more interested in the kind of recruitment we do irrespective of Lukaku, which will tell us more about what kind of club we're going to become.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Tinga on May 10, 2017, 06:10:32 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/6a7lbq/foot_mercato_raiola_was_simultaneously_and/

I doubt it will but I wonder what impact this could have with Lukaku if he is banned.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueNoseMike on May 10, 2017, 03:20:24 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/manchester-united-transfer-news-romelu-lukaku-not-good-enough-rene-meulensteen-a7724766.html

 lolol
Think he makes some fair comments about his build up play and linking with others. He'll get better at that but for now it's preventing him from being a complete striker. Once he adds that he's up there with the lewandowskis of the world.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on May 10, 2017, 03:21:26 PM
BBC gossip, United lining up an 85 million quid bid
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on May 10, 2017, 04:47:41 PM
Kenwright last night when asked if Rom is staying:
Quote
I do hope we see many more goals from you, Rom

Hardly definitive either way like. But seems there is still a bit of hope on the board
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on May 10, 2017, 05:32:32 PM
Funny this

https://twitter.com/Everton/status/862235449493999616
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on May 10, 2017, 05:40:29 PM
Rom's face when Valencia doesnt score that 3rd!  lolol
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Robioto on May 10, 2017, 05:51:46 PM
Funny this

https://twitter.com/Everton/status/862235449493999616

Enjoyed that, two things to take from that.

Rom is obviously the best finisher and as suspected Valancia struggles to control the ball, let alone finish.

Two things we already knew. :)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lazarou on May 10, 2017, 06:06:51 PM
Rom's finishing as we already knew is awesome. Valenica looks like a Sunday league player in that video.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ross on May 10, 2017, 06:18:19 PM
That video confirms we'll need to max out the credit cards on our forward line this summer.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Optimistic Blue on May 12, 2017, 02:59:36 AM
Wheres Lukakus utimatum then ron?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Goaljira on May 12, 2017, 03:01:36 AM
Wheres Lukakus utimatum then ron?

Hes got 2 years left.  Not one.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on May 12, 2017, 03:04:25 AM
Video going around of Lukaku, Gana and Schneiderlin mucking about in the showers, Lukaku asking the other two to dance while throwing cold water on them

Sounds sooo erotic
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Goaljira on May 12, 2017, 03:09:42 AM
Video going around of Lukaku, Gana and Schneiderlin mucking about in the showers, Lukaku asking the other two to dance while throwing cold water on them

Sounds sooo erotic

Sxhneiderlin showering in his pants is odd.  Then you realise fuckers are running round the showers filming stuff and you sort of accept it.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Optimistic Blue on May 12, 2017, 03:13:27 AM
Hes got 2 years left.  Not one.

No point offering him a contract till next year then by that logic
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on May 12, 2017, 03:19:36 AM
No point offering him a contract till next year then by that logic

Unless the offer on the table for Barkley has been there since last summer?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluebridge on May 12, 2017, 03:30:05 AM
No point offering him a contract till next year then by that logic
No, he's been offered one in advance of that, hence, no ultimatum.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 12, 2017, 03:31:44 AM
hahahaha Morgans dance https://twitter.com/EvertonBlueArmy/status/862699260822900736
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Confucius on May 12, 2017, 03:58:09 AM
Those are some really horrible showers for people who are so wealthy.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on May 12, 2017, 04:35:09 AM
Oh Rom, you funny silly man you
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on May 12, 2017, 01:06:51 PM
If big Rom comes wandering into the showers naked telling me to dance I'm dancing.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Escla on May 12, 2017, 02:53:17 PM
Those are some really horrible showers for people who are so wealthy.

Was thinking that myself, surely that's not Finch Farm or Goodison ?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on May 12, 2017, 02:54:32 PM
Undies on in the shower, reminds me of my school days that.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: ally2 on May 12, 2017, 04:52:42 PM
Undies on in the shower, reminds me of my school days that.

Oh we all went bollock naked. I thought that was the norm.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on May 12, 2017, 04:54:11 PM
Oh we all went bollock naked. I thought that was the norm.

Only the bravest souls went bollicko in my school, the priests were delighted
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on May 12, 2017, 05:36:52 PM
Oh we all went bollock naked. I thought that was the norm.

Same at my school. Hated it. Showers at school seems to be a thing of the past now.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 13, 2017, 05:00:45 AM
Loves it bless him (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170512/0a1da308d4d365b22e51b00bacbec539.jpg)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jamokachi on May 13, 2017, 05:03:59 AM
Loves it bless him (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170512/0a1da308d4d365b22e51b00bacbec539.jpg)

People will inevitably read so much into this. Thing is, it's his Belgian teammate's live video and his Belgian teammate that's scored the winning goal. It's more than just the Chelsea connection.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Macca77 on May 13, 2017, 05:04:56 AM
Fuck sake
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 13, 2017, 06:02:34 AM
It's the same vein as how he celebrates the goals of his teammates here.  He's a good dude, and a great teammate.  I think he and Batshuayi are fairly close, IIRC.

The irritating part is Batshuayi being a Chelsea cult hero now, we have no chance to get him in our shade of Blue.

NO PREM STARTS all season, and he scores the championship clincher, FFS
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Tony Clifton on May 13, 2017, 06:41:21 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170512/0a1da308d4d365b22e51b00bacbec539.jpg)

Kids these days.



Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: brap2 on May 13, 2017, 07:11:54 AM
Fella behind me : "Well I hope he doesn't get the golden boot. Doesn't deserve it."

Fellas mate: 'Well it's for scoring the most goals so like if he...'

FBM : "He's done fuck all"
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 13, 2017, 07:43:15 AM
Fella behind me : "Well I hope he doesn't get the golden boot. Doesn't deserve it."

Fellas mate: 'Well it's for scoring the most goals so like if he...'

FBM : "He's done fuck all"

People are fucked in the head.  Some days I want to imagine the season when Rom leaves, just to see the expressions on the faces of morons like that when the reality sets in of what we have lost.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 13, 2017, 01:55:11 PM
It's the same vein as how he celebrates the goals of his teammates here.  He's a good dude, and a great teammate.  I think he and Batshuayi are fairly close, IIRC.

The irritating part is Batshuayi being a Chelsea cult hero now, we have no chance to get him in our shade of Blue.

NO PREM STARTS all season, and he scores the championship clincher, FFS

I'm not sure he's a cult hero now. It wasn't an Aguero moment. Would have took a miracle for them not to win the league had he not scored
He'll be sold in the summer. We could have him if we want though he's been very unwhelming this season
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bally on May 13, 2017, 03:25:25 PM
Fella behind me : "Well I hope he doesn't get the golden boot. Doesn't deserve it."

Fellas mate: 'Well it's for scoring the most goals so like if he...'

FBM : "He's done fuck all"
Not as bad as the shout of "he should have a word with Rodwell...." the continuation of the conversation was lost, drowned out by the screaming inside my head and suppressing the urge to kill.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Fynci on May 13, 2017, 04:03:27 PM
I'm not sure he's a cult hero now. It wasn't an Aguero moment. Would have took a miracle for them not to win the league had he not scored
He'll be sold in the summer. We could have him if we want though he's been very unwhelming this season

More of a Gosling moment than an Aguero one.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: School of Science on May 13, 2017, 04:45:42 PM
Not as bad as the shout of "he should have a word with Rodwell...." the continuation of the conversation was lost, drowned out by the screaming inside my head and suppressing the urge to kill.

Have you ever thought of taking up Yoga, Bally ?  :)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 13, 2017, 08:39:02 PM
I'm not sure he's a cult hero now. It wasn't an Aguero moment. Would have took a miracle for them not to win the league had he not scored
He'll be sold in the summer. We could have him if we want though he's been very unwhelming this season

Then get the wallet out!  I still believe.  :D

Hard for him to have done much when he's almost never on the pitch (similar to Schneiderlin).  Easy to get lost in the shuffle there.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bally on May 13, 2017, 09:15:51 PM
Have you ever thought of taking up Yoga, Bally ?  :)
I do yoga every Sunday
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on May 19, 2017, 05:57:30 AM
Kane has pissed on his chips big style tonight.

Hopefully Lukaku will feel sufficiently motivated this weekend.
Title: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ramjam on May 19, 2017, 06:39:39 AM
Kane has pissed on his chips big style tonight.

Hopefully Lukaku will feel sufficiently motivated this weekend.

No chance, Roms problem was that he thought he already had it in the bag a month ago but it will be the teams fault as he's a CL player
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: nwatson on May 19, 2017, 07:02:15 AM
No chance, Roms problem was that he thought he already had it in the bag a month ago but it will be the teams fault as he's a CL player

Had a similar conversation with my son a bit earlier. If Lukaku had have finished top goalscorer i,d have picked up £650 from a bet i placed at start of season. Have £180 to pick up as a consolation as placed it each way. Lukaku seems to be motivated by his own hype, and i said to my son he thought he had it wrapped up when he was 4 goals clear a few weeks back. I thought back then he,d win it as surely he would score 1 or 2 more before the end of the season. He doesnt seemed to have raised a leg in effort since then. Kane on the other hand is motivated to score in every game, and wanted to catch Lukaku  and he,ll want a few more against Hull. (i should have layed the bet off on betfair when i had the chance a few weeks ago)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ramjam on May 19, 2017, 07:27:29 AM
Had a similar conversation with my son a bit earlier. If Lukaku had have finished top goalscorer i,d have picked up £650 from a bet i placed at start of season. Have £180 to pick up as a consolation as placed it each way. Lukaku seems to be motivated by his own hype, and i said to my son he thought he had it wrapped up when he was 4 goals clear a few weeks back. I thought back then he,d win it as surely he would score 1 or 2 more before the end of the season. He doesnt seemed to have raised a leg in effort since then. Kane on the other hand is motivated to score in every game, and wanted to catch Lukaku  and he,ll want a few more against Hull. (i should have layed the bet off on betfair when i had the chance a few weeks ago)

That's disappointing, I'd turn up to the Emirates on Sunday and ask him to pay you out on the bet that you would have won if he hadn't downed tools cheers
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: nwatson on May 19, 2017, 07:56:33 AM
That's disappointing, I'd turn up to the Emirates on Sunday and ask him to pay you out on the bet that you would have won if he hadn't downed tools cheers
Strangest thing is, i have been more upset with smaller bets getting beat on the last leg in the past. There seemed to be a sense of inevitability that Rom would get caught. I just didnt imagine Kane would get 4 tonight. The total bet would have ran £830 (£25 ew 25/1) I could have layed it off to make £600 in the middle of April but didnt thinking Rom was good for a few more goals. Even last weekend i could have laid it off to make £700 as he was 1/5 to win, but after moving house, and the arrival of our new baby son on the 6th i didnt have the funds available to lay it off so had to let it ride. Its funny how things pan out isnt it.
Ah well the £180 will pay for a day trip with the kids during the summer holidays.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Jamokachi on May 19, 2017, 10:24:46 AM
there's some fucking cranks on here
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Ramjam on May 19, 2017, 11:48:36 AM
Strangest thing is, i have been more upset with smaller bets getting beat on the last leg in the past. There seemed to be a sense of inevitability that Rom would get caught. I just didnt imagine Kane would get 4 tonight. The total bet would have ran £830 (£25 ew 25/1) I could have layed it off to make £600 in the middle of April but didnt thinking Rom was good for a few more goals. Even last weekend i could have laid it off to make £700 as he was 1/5 to win, but after moving house, and the arrival of our new baby son on the 6th i didnt have the funds available to lay it off so had to let it ride. Its funny how things pan out isnt it.
Ah well the £180 will pay for a day trip with the kids during the summer holidays.

Good on ya mate that's the spirit, hope all goes well with your new wee one
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Redartin on May 19, 2017, 12:02:20 PM
Have you ever thought of taking up Yoga, Bally ?  :)
"Or maybe Chess" he says patiently.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on May 20, 2017, 02:15:15 PM
Quote
Koeman: 'I expect Romelu Lukaku to stay and Ross Barkley's future will be resolved soon'

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/everton-koeman-lukaku-barkley-contract-13063272
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 20, 2017, 07:23:09 PM
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/everton-koeman-lukaku-barkley-contract-13063272

Very honest interview.  Certainly seems as if he is planning fairly firmly around Rom being back.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Mick 1995 on May 20, 2017, 07:27:02 PM
Very honest interview.  Certainly seems as if he is planning fairly firmly around Rom being back.

Yeah, reckon he'll treat it like Barkley. Happy to have him run it down to a year and then sell if he doesn't sign an extension.

Would take a Lukaku transfer request to make us sell is my thinking now.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on May 21, 2017, 02:40:20 AM
This is quite a big deal eh, but doesn't seem to have gotten much coverage in the national press. Basically, it sounds like we're keeping him, which I'm all in favour of. I doubt even a transfer request would change the situation. World Cup next year. It'll just be rejected and he'll be told to get on with it for another season.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: BlueBeagle on May 21, 2017, 02:48:18 AM
Another potential year of Lukaku. Unexpected bonus, happy days.

Would have put my house on him leaving this summer.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 21, 2017, 02:52:28 AM
I don't think anyone wants to pay the prices we are quoting. He seems to get in a position to win his big move then pack in with 5-10 games to go and no one is will to pay top money for a player who shuts off for periods
I actually think that the only way he'll get his move is by running his contract down.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Lxxx on May 21, 2017, 03:02:26 AM
Two or three genuine quality striking/creative additions playing with/behind possibly the best finisher in the league.

What's not to like about that?
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: brap2 on May 21, 2017, 04:58:25 AM
This is quite a big deal eh, but doesn't seem to have gotten much coverage in the national press. Basically, it sounds like we're keeping him, which I'm all in favour of. I doubt even a transfer request would change the situation. World Cup next year. It'll just be rejected and he'll be told to get on with it for another season.

Sounds like standard pre-sell chatter to me.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: Bluedylan on May 21, 2017, 04:59:52 AM
Sounds like standard pre-sell chatter to me.

Normally I'd agree but the Koeman doesn't tend to be a bulshitter. If he was going, I think he'd probably just say it.
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
Post by: blargins on May 21, 2017, 05:04:20 AM
Two or three genuine quality striking/creative additions playing with/behind possibly the best finisher in the league.

What's not to like about that?

Second best ;)
Title: Re: [News]Lukaku rejects new 140k per week contract
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