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Title: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 07, 2014, 02:26:57 AM
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Everton v Krasnodar
Goodison Park
Thursday 11th December 20:05
Europa League Group Match #6

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Everton - Last 5 Matches

Everton 2-1 West Ham (Lukaku, Osman)
Wolsburg 0-2 Everton - Europa League (Lukaku, Mirallas)
Tottenham 2-1 Everton (Mirallas)
Everton 1-1 Hull (Lukaku)
Manchester City 1-0 Everton


Krasnodar - Last 5 Matches

Kranodar 2-1 CSKA Moscow (Ari x2)
Kradnodar 1-1 Lille (Ari)
Terek Grozny 0-1 Krasnodar (Wanderson)
Kuban Krasnodar 1-1 Krasnodar (Pereyra)
Zenit St Petersburg 4-0 Krasnodar

Possible Line ups

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Statistics

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Injuries

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Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: velimski on December 07, 2014, 02:28:50 AM
so you reckon Kone has a chance of starting this game?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 07, 2014, 02:33:41 AM
Love this Shogs, nice to have a smile when looking at everton :D
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 07, 2014, 02:34:13 AM
so you reckon Kone has a chance of starting this game?

I'm going to look quite foolish if he isn't, aren't I!
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 07, 2014, 02:37:01 AM
Robles
Hibbert jagielka alcaraz Garbutt
Besic osman
Mcaleny barkley pienaar
Kone

I'd like to see ledson get a run out too
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Bluedylan on December 07, 2014, 02:37:55 AM
I'm going to look quite foolish if he isn't, aren't I!

You don't usually let that bother you?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 07, 2014, 02:40:07 AM
You don't usually let that bother you?

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Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: TheRam on December 07, 2014, 02:43:01 AM
I'd give a few lads from the disabled team a go here.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 07, 2014, 02:44:24 AM
It'd be nice to win. Remember how that feels?? Win. Win. Win
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: velimski on December 07, 2014, 02:48:32 AM
Apart from Robles, Kone, Atsu and Garbutt, i'd like to see the team made up entirely of the U21's side.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: toffee_scot on December 07, 2014, 02:52:08 AM
My lineup (depending on who's fit) would be:

-----------------------Robles------------------------
Hibbert--------Browning------Jagielka------Garbutt
----------------Barkley---------Barry---------------
Atsu-------------------Osman-----------------Oviedo
-------------------------Kone-------------------------

Bench: Howard, Alcaraz, Galloway, Junior, Ledson, Chris Long, McAleny

Barry is suspended for the QPR game so he might as well play this fixture. Ideally I would have liked Gibson to play but once again he has been missing with injury since international duty. It would be interesting to see Barkley continue to play more a deeper role and hopefully, Oviedo will be available for this game.

One player who seems to have been completely forgotten is Fransisco Junior, obviously he is not seen at all as part of the first team especially after that ill fated debut against Leeds a few seasons ago - but if he is fit then might as well have him available for this nothing game.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: plumber on December 07, 2014, 03:26:44 AM
 What‘s the point of overworking and risking Jagielka et al in the meaningless game? It‘s a perfect opportunity to rest the key players and test some youngsters.
 
                       Robles
Browning  Galloway  Alcaraz  Garbutt
                  Jones  Ledson
            Atsu  Dowell  Oviedo
                      Kone
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 07, 2014, 03:33:04 AM
I really think I should be getting paid for these threads.


Preferably in prostitutes.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 07, 2014, 03:35:16 AM
I really think I should be getting paid for these threads.


Preferably in prostitutes.

can i get some of the wage due to putting up with all the guys?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 07, 2014, 03:36:04 AM
can i get some of the wage due to putting up with all the guys?

We could always share prostitutes.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: whirlwind82 on December 07, 2014, 03:37:10 AM
I'd give a few lads from the disabled team a go here.

Don't they have a game against Basle this week???
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 07, 2014, 03:43:52 AM
We could always share prostitutes.

I meant that ;D maybe not at the same time like!
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: NomadskiEFC on December 07, 2014, 03:58:05 AM
Apart from Robles, Kone and Atsu, i'd like to see the team made up entirely of mascots


Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: velimski on December 07, 2014, 04:01:01 AM
Didn't realise our very own @Ari (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=393) has been banging the goals in for Krasnodar recently.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 07, 2014, 04:09:37 AM
I meant that ;D maybe not at the same time like!

Sharing is caring.





:(
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: macko on December 07, 2014, 04:56:01 PM
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Everton v Krasnodar
Goodison Park
Thursday 11th December 20:05
Europa League Group Match #6

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Everton - Last 5 Matches

Everton 2-1 West Ham (Lukaku, Osman)
Wolsburg 0-2 Everton - Europa League (Lukaku, Mirallas)
Tottenham 2-1 Everton (Mirallas)
Everton 1-1 Hull (Lukaku)
Manchester City 1-0 Everton


Krasnodar - Last 5 Matches

Kranodar 2-1 CSKA Moscow (Ari x2)
Kradnodar 1-1 Lille (Ari)
Terek Grozny 0-1 Krasnodar (Wanderson)
Kuban Krasnodar 1-1 Krasnodar (Pereyra)
Zenit St Petersburg 4-0 Krasnodar

Possible Line ups

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Statistics

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Injuries

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lille have 4 points.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 07, 2014, 06:09:47 PM
lille have 4 points.

and krasnodar have 3. peasant pedant :)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 07, 2014, 06:10:54 PM
Not in my world they don't.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Simon Paul on December 07, 2014, 06:14:38 PM
the team will be made up entirely of WAGS on Thursday night

Leon Osman's other half is particularly good at holding the ball up apparently
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: toffee_scot on December 07, 2014, 06:44:29 PM
What‘s the point of overworking and risking Jagielka et al in the meaningless game? It‘s a perfect opportunity to rest the key players and test some youngsters.
 
                       Robles
Browning  Galloway  Alcaraz  Garbutt
                  Jones  Ledson
            Atsu  Dowell  Oviedo
                      Kone


We can rest a few players of course, but you still want a good balance of experienced players to help out the youngsters. Jagielka should be fine, he's one of those players who can possibly play 40 games in a row without showing any signs of genuine fatigue. He's the captain so he can lead the youngsters, plus Alcaraz has just come back from injury and given how light we are in defence, I would rather he made a full recovery but if he was 20 minutes in him then certainly give him a run out in the second half.

I believe that Martinez will want to win this game to round off our impressive run in the group stages plus Krasnodar gave us a lot of problems last time with their "in your face" style of football so to put on Ledson and Jones in central midfield could be a little overwhelming. We need to build up the confidence of the youngsters and if we can get a 2-0 victory or something like that then that would be ideal.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: DannyR on December 07, 2014, 06:53:30 PM
I want us to play Laura Merrin
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Eddie on December 07, 2014, 06:56:49 PM
I predict a grim game that I'll want to fuck off from after 30 mins.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Rhys on December 07, 2014, 07:14:03 PM
We can rest a few players of course, but you still want a good balance of experienced players to help out the youngsters. Jagielka should be fine, he's one of those players who can possibly play 40 games in a row without showing any signs of genuine fatigue. He's the captain so he can lead the youngsters, plus Alcaraz has just come back from injury and given how light we are in defence, I would rather he made a full recovery but if he was 20 minutes in him then certainly give him a run out in the second half.

I believe that Martinez will want to win this game to round off our impressive run in the group stages plus Krasnodar gave us a lot of problems last time with their "in your face" style of football so to put on Ledson and Jones in central midfield could be a little overwhelming. We need to build up the confidence of the youngsters and if we can get a 2-0 victory or something like that then that would be ideal.

That's it. It's absolutely pointless playing kids in mainly the under 21 team aside from playing in front of a half sized crowd in a competitive match on the tele. Far better for someone like ledson to have an Osman next to him, browning next to a jagielka etc. They would learn far more having someone experienced next to them talking them through to the game.

Hopefully people like ledson, garbutt, browning play but putting in 7 or 8 under 21s wouldn't be the answer in my opinion. Plus getting someone like pienaar minutes is just as crucial because right now he isn't an option but he is an option we need to get back to fitness ASAP.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Juanito on December 07, 2014, 07:18:20 PM
                                       Robles
         Hibbert          Browning       Alcaraz     Garbutt

          Atsu         Ledson         Osman       Oviedo

                                  Barkley

                                  Kone
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 07, 2014, 07:28:23 PM
The team that played Bate 5 years ago.

Nash (41) - Retired at Norwich last season, making a total of 13 appearances in the last 7 years of his career. (Retired)

Coleman (26) - Still boss at Everton. (Premier League)
Hibbert (33) - Still ok at Everton. (Premier League)
Duffy (22) - Moved to Blackburn in the summer, currently just outside the play offs. (Championship)
Bidwell (21) - made his loan move to Brentford permanent a few years ago, currently in the play off positions. (Championship)

Osman (33) - Still ok at Everton. (Premier League)
Forshaw (23) - Moved to Wigan in the summer after winning League One player of the year whilst playing for Brentford, probably has regrets. (Championship)
Rodwell (23) - Currently at Sunderland, not doing much. (Premier Legaue)
Baxter (22) - In the play offs with Sheffield United at the moment. (League One)

Yakubu (Nigerian 32) - Spreading joy in Qatar. (Somewhere in Qatar)
Agard (25) - Recently signed for Bristol City and has 7 goals in 12 games, they sit top of the league. (League One)

Subs:

Akpan (23) - A regular in Reading's side. (Championship)
Mustafi (22) - World Cup winner innit. Signed for Valencia in the summer. (La Liga)
Nathan Craig (23) - Had his contract with Torquay terminated, currently playing for Caenarfon Town. (Welsh 2nd Division)
Howard (35) - Everton. (Premier League)
Garbutt (21) - Everton. (Premier League)
McAleny (22)- Everton. (Premier League)
Nsiala (22)- Playing for Grimsby in the 5th tier of English football. (Conference Premier)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: TheRam on December 07, 2014, 07:30:57 PM
Most of them have made decent careers for themselves.

Fair play.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: toffee_scot on December 07, 2014, 08:21:00 PM
Interesting info about the team vs. BATE, at least all the youngsters are still involved in football.

Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Alex6691 on December 07, 2014, 11:06:32 PM
What ever happened to John Paul Kissock? wasn't he touted to be a good player?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Gash on December 07, 2014, 11:08:07 PM
What ever happened to John Paul Kissock? wasn't he touted to be a good player?

He's playing non league somewhere. I read it recently but I'd never heard of the club.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 07, 2014, 11:15:48 PM
Last I heard he was at Luton.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 07, 2014, 11:18:29 PM
Just had a look and he's signed for Whithawk FC in the conference south.grim
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 07, 2014, 11:20:10 PM


he's apparently still working his way down. now playing for a brighton club, whitehawk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Paul_Kissock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Paul_Kissock)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Gash on December 07, 2014, 11:22:54 PM
Just had a look and he's signed for Whithawk FC in the conference south.grim

That's the one, when I first saw it I thought it was some A League or MLS type outfit.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Thornton_19 on December 07, 2014, 11:29:11 PM
I'm going to be really disappointed if we have any of the first team playing. Obviously give Kone and Oviedo a game like but this is all about playing 19 year olds for me
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: dazfrancis on December 07, 2014, 11:40:26 PM
I would much rather see 5 or 6 youngsters alongside some senior players than 9 youngsters + oviedo and kone
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: macko on December 07, 2014, 11:43:52 PM
Not in my world they don't.
Just check the facts.Lille have 4 points.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: macko on December 07, 2014, 11:47:36 PM
I predict a grim game that I'll want to fuck off from after 30 mins.
Well don't fucking go then,divvie.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: macko on December 07, 2014, 11:50:31 PM
Not in my world they don't.
Do your fucking sums.Four draws equals 4 points,3 draws equals 3 points.D'oh!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: TheRam on December 07, 2014, 11:54:17 PM
What's this lads beef?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: macko on December 07, 2014, 11:57:39 PM
What's this lads beef?
They got their facts wrong then took the piss when I pointed it out.Not fair.I apologise if anyone took offence,but give me stick you get it back with interest.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Eddie on December 08, 2014, 12:07:13 AM
Well don't fucking go then,divvie.

 lolol
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: macko on December 08, 2014, 12:10:23 AM
lolol
Sorry for calling you a divvie,mate.But if you really think you're not going to enjoy a match,why bother going?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: cantoffee on December 08, 2014, 12:19:40 AM
Sorry for calling you a divvie,mate.But if you really think you're not going to enjoy a match,why bother going?

You need to chill.

Why is every post of yours so aggressive?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Eddie on December 08, 2014, 02:18:44 AM
Sorry for calling you a divvie,mate.But if you really think you're not going to enjoy a match,why bother going?

Because I'm a good supporter and I go every home game regardless of how poor I predict it's going to be. My post was just an honest comment (besides leaving after 30 mins), I'm not going to try and kid myself or others by saying it's going to be a classic. We're playing poorly and are up against a poor outfit, that only means one thing.

As cantoffee said I think you need to chill and stop taking harmless posts to heart.

Merry christmas.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: macko on December 08, 2014, 02:22:06 AM
Because I'm a good supporter and I go every home game regardless of how poor I predict it's going to be. My post was just an honest comment (besides leaving after 30 mins), I'm not going to try and kid myself or others by saying it's going to be a classic. We're playing poorly and are up against a poor outfit, that only means one thing.

As cantoffee said I think you need to chill and stop taking harmless posts to heart.

Merry christmas.
Listen mate,I agree with most of your posts,just look at the number of likes I've given you.It's just the post I reacted to struck a nerve.Sorry.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: sam of the south on December 08, 2014, 02:32:43 AM
Just had a look and he's signed for Whithawk FC in the conference south.grim

Woah.

Lived there for six years.

It is grim.

Rough as fuck.

Cheap rent mind!

A few scousers there too though, so at least he'll hear some nostalgic vocals.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 08, 2014, 07:53:43 AM
Must win game this. Robles will be massive. Hibbert might score.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Rhys on December 08, 2014, 03:06:36 PM
Woah.

Lived there for six years.

It is grim.

Rough as fuck.

Cheap rent mind!

A few scousers there too though, so at least he'll hear some nostalgic vocals.


Once he realised he wasn't going to make it with us he gave up playing for a while and spent all his time djing. I guess after a while he realised he missed playing so got back into it but to not make a career out of the game seems crazy, I went to the reserves a lot at the time he was playing and he could do some magical things with a ball but he wasnt really blessed with any pace. Shame for someone who had so much talent but being around 5 foot 5 or whatever he is makes it so much harder to make the grade these days.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: fez91 on December 08, 2014, 05:48:01 PM
This will be an interesting test for the fringe/youth players, especially with the "first team" players not performing as well as we all hoped this season. I feel that there are a few positions up for grabs. I don't think anyone will be able to guess the correct team but here is my attempt.
                      Joel
Hibbert Browning Alcaraz Garbutt
             Ledson Osman
Atsu             Pienaar        Oviedo
                     Kone
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 08, 2014, 06:18:35 PM
I cant wait to drown in my tears when Kone scores :love:
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 08, 2014, 06:31:39 PM
It's still live on FS1, and I set my DVR.   Because the Everton that shows up for Europa is the Everton I enjoy watching FFS!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Toddacelli on December 08, 2014, 07:20:27 PM
Apart from Robles, Kone and Atsu, i'd like to see the team made up entirely of mascots




Eh? I thought Kone WAS a mascot?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Toddacelli on December 08, 2014, 07:22:16 PM
We can rest a few players of course, but you still want a good balance of experienced players to help out the youngsters.

I believe that Martinez will want to win this game to round off our impressive run in the group stages plus Krasnodar gave us a lot of problems last time with their "in your face" style of football so to put on Ledson and Jones in central midfield could be a little overwhelming. We need to build up the confidence of the youngsters and if we can get a 2-0 victory or something like that then that would be ideal.

Yeah. Remember Junior vs Leeds anyone?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Toddacelli on December 08, 2014, 07:29:03 PM
I'm going to be really disappointed if we have any of the first team playing. Obviously give Kone and Oviedo a game like but this is all about playing 19 year olds for me

Yeah. I fancy giving eleven 19-year-olds a go as well.

Don't think that will happen either.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 08, 2014, 07:46:18 PM
Yeah. I fancy giving eleven 19-year-olds a go as well.

Don't think that will happen either.
Saucy devil!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: GLewis on December 08, 2014, 07:47:02 PM
This will be an interesting test for the fringe/youth players, especially with the "first team" players not performing as well as we all hoped this season. I feel that there are a few positions up for grabs. I don't think anyone will be able to guess the correct team but here is my attempt.
                      Joel
Hibbert Browning Alcaraz Garbutt
             Ledson Osman
Atsu             Pienaar        Oviedo
                     Kone

Seems sensible to me.

Uses the senior players who have been on the fringes and also puts in the youth players who have been closest to the first team (either through the odd appearance or on the bench).

Most of those senior players are in need of the minutes too so they should be getting some game time here.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: fez91 on December 08, 2014, 10:29:27 PM
Seems sensible to me.

Uses the senior players who have been on the fringes and also puts in the youth players who have been closest to the first team (either through the odd appearance or on the bench).

Most of those senior players are in need of the minutes too so they should be getting some game time here.

I know, I don't think anybody can guess what this team will be, he may play Barry now that he will be suspended for the QPR game, personally I would rest him. McGeady is another who might start.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: itsmyprtyanimromelulukaku on December 08, 2014, 11:02:33 PM
Yeah. I fancy giving eleven 19-year-olds a go as well.

Don't think that will happen either.

Is that you Rolf?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: stirlingblue on December 08, 2014, 11:30:24 PM
The team that played Bate 5 years ago.

...

Yakubu (Nigerian 32) - Spreading joy in Qatar. (Somewhere in Qatar)


No way is he still only 32!
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 09, 2014, 12:36:13 AM
Get Green on.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Toddacelli on December 09, 2014, 11:48:22 AM
No way is he still only 32!

Of course he is. In Nigerian, once you hit 35 you start countin backwards. e.g.

29  30  31  32  33  34  35  34  33  32  31  30  29
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Amata on December 10, 2014, 02:09:30 AM
This will be an interesting test for the fringe/youth players, especially with the "first team" players not performing as well as we all hoped this season. I feel that there are a few positions up for grabs. I don't think anyone will be able to guess the correct team but here is my attempt.
                      Joel
Hibbert Browning Alcaraz Garbutt
             Ledson Osman
Atsu             Pienaar        Oviedo
                     Kone

The exact team I'd go for but maybe switch Hibbo and Browning as Hibbo has more experience at CB. Also gives the rest of the team more match fitness/experience.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Simon Paul on December 10, 2014, 03:51:17 AM
tickets for this still VERY available...
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 10, 2014, 03:53:44 AM
tickets for this still VERY available...

No surprise. 25k would be decent.

Teams playing like shit and we haven't won for three game. It's cold as fuck as well.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Alanvideo on December 10, 2014, 04:11:16 AM
I knew this would happen if the shite were eliminated tonight.  According to the one city one club rule ,Everton must forfeit their place in the Europa League to give Liverpool a clear run to win the trophy and take their rightful place in next season's Champions League.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: TSGun on December 10, 2014, 11:31:36 AM
Is there any word on the state of John Stones at the moment? Not sure if he's back in fitness training yet but this would be a good chance for a little cameo if possible.

The need of match fitness and the gaining of Euro experience for youngsters should dictate the team selection for this game. Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Rhys on December 10, 2014, 03:00:06 PM
Is there any word on the state of John Stones at the moment? Not sure if he's back in fitness training yet but this would be a good chance for a little cameo if possible.

The need of match fitness and the gaining of Euro experience for youngsters should dictate the team selection for this game. Looking forward to it.

Not back yet. Roberto said he hoped he would be fit for the beginning of the year.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 10, 2014, 04:04:17 PM
ill get onto his sister about where he is at
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 10, 2014, 04:06:48 PM
Not back yet. Roberto said he hoped he would be fit for the beginning of the year.
Which year tho he didnt specify
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Alanvideo on December 10, 2014, 04:35:16 PM
Kopites at work are banging on about knocking us out of the Europa. What's the chances of being drawn against them ?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: toffee_scot on December 10, 2014, 04:49:00 PM
Kopites at work are banging on about knocking us out of the Europa. What's the chances of being drawn against them ?

For the next round, impossible. At this stage, clubs from the same country cannot play against one another.

For the round afterwards - possibly, but it all depends on whether Liverpool can progress further.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Major Clanger on December 10, 2014, 04:53:28 PM
Kopites at work are banging on about knocking us out of the Europa. What's the chances of being drawn against them ?

Nil in the next round.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Gash on December 10, 2014, 04:56:21 PM
It's quite funny reading some of the stuff they're coming out with less than 24 hours after being knocked out of the Champions League. "We'll batter Everton", and "we're still above them in the league", etc. And they say we're the obsessed ones.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 10, 2014, 05:00:37 PM
cant ever give it a rest can they ffs.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Tony Clifton on December 10, 2014, 05:39:44 PM
Kopites at work are banging on about knocking us out of the Europa. What's the chances of being drawn against them ?

People that make no sense buzzing about possibly drawing us in a competition that makes no sense.  Sums the stupid fuckers right up.  Both competitions need a massive shake-up like the kopites have had this season.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: brap2 on December 10, 2014, 05:45:31 PM
Kopites at work are banging on about knocking us out of the Europa. What's the chances of being drawn against them ?

same here. bastards.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Macca77 on December 10, 2014, 06:56:30 PM
Few in work said they're not going because its gonna piss down?!

What a ridiculous excuse of human beings they are, waist of skin.

Wonder how many Ruskies are coming over?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: TheRam on December 10, 2014, 08:50:09 PM
@GregOK: RM: Robles in goal. Atsu, Pienaar, Kone, Oviedo, Browning & Garbutt to play tomorrow #EFC

Rest will be youngsters apparently 
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 10, 2014, 08:54:22 PM
@GregOK: RM: Robles in goal. Atsu, Pienaar, Kone, Oviedo, Browning & Garbutt to play tomorrow #EFC

Rest will be youngsters apparently 

Wonder if there's anything to read into Browning playing CB for the U21 v Sunderland?

Robles
? Browning Galloway Garbutt
Ledson ?
Atsu Pienaar Oviedo
Kone

Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Everton Mint on December 10, 2014, 08:55:49 PM
Roberto Martinez has revealed the majority of his starting line-up to face Krasnodar on Thursday.

At his pre-match press conference at Finch Farm on Thursday, the Blues boss named seven players before adding 'some exciting youngsters' will make up the XI.

Joel Robles, Christian Atsu, Steven Pienaar, Bryan Oviedo, Arouna Kone, Luke Garbutt and Tyias Browning were the players Martinez mentioned specifically.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Sir Stealth on December 10, 2014, 09:03:51 PM
Mcaleny and Alcaraz will also play
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 10, 2014, 09:05:01 PM
Mcaleny and Alcaraz will also play
Pienaar CM?

Unless it's a change of formation of course.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: brap2 on December 10, 2014, 09:16:05 PM
I would think an experienced CB next to a young Cb surely, as two young cbs would just get their heads bummed in by krasnodar?

also - i sort of thought pienaar was in the situation of like wrap him in cotton wool and get half an hour out of him every now and again, in which case this would surely be a waste... but maybe he needs playing time to get fit?

Robles

Browning Alcaraz Galloway Garbutt

Osman(or Besic) Ledson

Atsu  Pienaar  Oviedo

Konedog
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: GLewis on December 10, 2014, 09:16:34 PM
Pienaar CM?

Unless it's a change of formation of course.

Looks like it.

From that line up I'd then expect Ledson and Kenny to play.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: GLewis on December 10, 2014, 09:18:25 PM
Robles

Kenny Browning Alcaraz Garbutt

Ledson Pienaar

Atsu McAleny Oviedo

Kone
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 10, 2014, 09:18:54 PM
I would think an experienced CB next to a young Cb surely, as two young cbs would just get their heads bummed in by krasnodar?

also - i sort of thought pienaar was in the situation of like wrap him in cotton wool and get half an hour out of him every now and again, in which case this would surely be a waste... but maybe he needs playing time to get fit?

Robles

Browning Alcaraz Galloway Garbutt

Osman(or Besic) Ledson

Atsu  Pienaar  Oviedo

Konedog

Barry is suspended for Monday so I don't think Osman will play.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: brap2 on December 10, 2014, 09:24:48 PM
Barry is suspended for Monday so I don't think Osman will play.

shizzzout. who would you have in the middle with Ledson? surely an experienced head..
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Everton Mint on December 10, 2014, 09:46:49 PM
'Everton manager Roberto Martinez wants league matches moved to Monday's after a Europa League tie...'

Cant blame him after us having to play Man U at 12pm Sunday after flying back from Russia.

Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Everton Mint on December 10, 2014, 09:48:34 PM
Greg O'Keeffe -
Educated guess is that the remaining two starting slots for tomorrow will go between JonJoe Kenny, Ryan Ledson or Chris Long.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Everton Mint on December 10, 2014, 09:50:59 PM
BTW, cant believe Kone couldnt do the Press Conf without an interpreter... he's been in the UK over 2 years...  :hmph:
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Alanvideo on December 10, 2014, 09:56:05 PM
BTW, cant believe Kone couldnt do the Press Conf without an interpreter... he's been in the UK over 2 years...  :hmph:
..........yeh but maybe he learned his English in Wigan.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Everton Mint on December 10, 2014, 10:02:32 PM
..........yeh but maybe he learned his English in Wigan.

Aye, that ma be reet...
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 10, 2014, 10:17:01 PM
'Everton manager Roberto Martinez wants league matches moved to Monday's after a Europa League tie...'

Cant blame him after us having to play Man U at 12pm Sunday after flying back from Russia.

Changed his tune from the start of the season.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 10, 2014, 10:28:42 PM
Can't wait for Kone to score!
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 10, 2014, 10:36:55 PM
After saying those players specifically, Martinez spoke about playing 2 'diamonds' of the youth academy so I'm guessing that'll be McAleny and Ledson.

Robles
Oviedo Browning Alcaraz Garbutt
Ledson Barry
Atsu McAleny Pienaar
Kone

That'd be my guess.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: brap2 on December 10, 2014, 10:56:34 PM
After saying those players specifically, Martinez spoke about playing 2 'diamonds' of the youth academy so I'm guessing that'll be McAleny and Ledson.

Robles
Oviedo Browning Alcaraz Garbutt
Ledson Barry
Atsu McAleny Pienaar
Kone

That'd be my guess.

not a bad shout to be honest.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 10, 2014, 11:40:14 PM
Has Oviedo played RB before?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 10, 2014, 11:46:27 PM
@Evertonian in NC (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3784) you love Oviedo so much it makes me chuckle x
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 11, 2014, 12:06:22 AM

Has Oviedo played RB before?

Stoke H under Moyes IIRC

Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Alanvideo on December 11, 2014, 12:17:46 AM
tickets for this still VERY available...
........even the street end is half empty on e-ticketing. Doubt if we'll reach 20,000.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: pjk on December 11, 2014, 12:45:20 AM
I'm surprised no one's mentioned George Green. Isn't he supposed to be one of our diamonds? I would love to see him come on and do the back heel trick. Anyone remember that.....
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: hill135 on December 11, 2014, 01:00:51 AM
Is McAleny really a diamond? Martinez is prone to exaggerate but..

Ledson (possibly), Garbutt and Browning playing is really exciting.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: RB1878 on December 11, 2014, 01:18:32 AM
BTW, cant believe Kone couldnt do the Press Conf without an interpreter... he's been in the UK over 2 years...  :hmph:

Embarrassing that.

Players like Zlatan speak the language of every country they've played in, in his case Dutch, Spanish, Italian, French as well as his native Swedish and English thrown in.

McGeady learned Russian ffs with all those crazy letters yet Kone can't learn basic English in 2+ years?

Sort it you lazy bastard!
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: macko on December 11, 2014, 01:21:45 AM
Embarrassing that.

Players like Zlatan speak the language of every country they've played in, in his case Dutch, Spanish, Italian, French as well as his native Swedish and English thrown in.

McGeady learned Russian ffs with all those crazy letters yet Kone can't learn basic English in 2+ years?

Sort it you lazy bastard!
That you Nigel?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 11, 2014, 01:24:53 AM
To be fair though there's quite a few on here that can't speak English very well judging by their spelling and grammar.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: RB1878 on December 11, 2014, 01:25:14 AM
That you Nigel?

Not asking much to do a presser is it?

Surely he could have taken a few lessons over the last 12 months of doing fuck all other than a bit of recovery work at FF

EDIT: I'm not saying 'you live in England so speak English' just that anyone living in any foreign country for any length of time should make an effort to learn the language and embrace the culture (especially those paid to kick a ball and run for a couple of hours a day)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Brownie20 on December 11, 2014, 02:09:47 AM
Not asking much to do a presser is it?

Surely he could have taken a few lessons over the last 12 months of doing fuck all other than a bit of recovery work at FF

EDIT: I'm not saying 'you live in England so speak English' just that anyone living in any foreign country for any length of time should make an effort to learn the language and embrace the culture (especially those paid to kick a ball and run for a couple of hours a day)

Maybe he genuinely struggles with the language and wants to feel comfortable doing the press conference especially as he has something to prove
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: macko on December 11, 2014, 02:18:56 AM
Not asking much to do a presser is it?

Surely he could have taken a few lessons over the last 12 months of doing fuck all other than a bit of recovery work at FF

EDIT: I'm not saying 'you live in England so speak English' just that anyone living in any foreign country for any length of time should make an effort to learn the language and embrace the culture (especially those paid to kick a ball and run for a couple of hours a day)
Pochettino(sp?) was using an interpreter even after he could speak english.BTW,I was pulling your chain.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 11, 2014, 03:03:50 AM
Its a celebration. Should be a good game.

Hopefully Kone will do the talking with his feet in terms of goals goals and more goals.


Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Brownie20 on December 11, 2014, 03:42:46 AM
I'm going to have a cheeky bet on him first scorer
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Rhys on December 11, 2014, 03:43:35 AM
After saying those players specifically, Martinez spoke about playing 2 'diamonds' of the youth academy so I'm guessing that'll be McAleny and Ledson.

Robles
Oviedo Browning Alcaraz Garbutt
Ledson Barry
Atsu McAleny Pienaar
Kone

That'd be my guess.

Mcaleny hardly a diamond though is he? He is 22 and if he was a diamond he would have been on the bench in the recent games where we have had no forwards on the bench.

It's likely to be Kenny. Him, nor ledson or Dowell were in the youth team game the other night which must mean are in the squad and would guess ledson and Kenny both will start.

As for Oviedo don't remember him ever playing right back for us?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Thornton_19 on December 11, 2014, 04:35:35 AM
Robles

Browning  Galloway Alcaraz  Garbutt

          Ledson    Pienaar


Atsu     McAlany      Oviedo
                Kone


I reckon
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 11, 2014, 04:52:46 AM
Gonna miss this. Mini AK has his trial and Little Miss AK is in a stage play of Oliver straight after.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Thornton_19 on December 11, 2014, 05:06:02 AM
Gonna miss this. Mini AK has his trial and Little Miss AK is in a stage play of Oliver straight after.

Trial as in footy? Good luck to him!
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 11, 2014, 05:20:27 AM
Maybe he genuinely struggles with the language and wants to feel comfortable doing the press conference especially as he has something to prove

Joseph Barton immemorial.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Redartin on December 11, 2014, 05:50:22 AM
BTW, cant believe Kone couldnt do the Press Conf without an interpreter... he's been in the UK over 2 years...  :hmph:

Paul Lambert has been managing in England since 2006 and he still needs sub titles.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 11, 2014, 01:51:30 PM
BTW, cant believe Kone couldnt do the Press Conf without an interpreter... he's been in the UK over 2 years...  :hmph:

Maybe physios are the silent type so Kone hasn't had much practice.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 11, 2014, 02:26:31 PM
Trial as in footy? Good luck to him!

Yeah, Finch Farm tonight.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: brap2 on December 11, 2014, 03:03:20 PM
I'm surprised no one's mentioned George Green. Isn't he supposed to be one of our diamonds? I would love to see him come on and do the back heel trick. Anyone remember that.....
Last I heard he had a back injury that required an operation.

Mcaleny hardly a diamond though is he? He is 22 and if he was a diamond he would have been on the bench in the recent games where we have had no forwards on the bench.

It's likely to be Kenny. Him, nor ledson or Dowell were in the youth team game the other night which must mean are in the squad and would guess ledson and Kenny both will start.

As for Oviedo don't remember him ever playing right back for us?

McAleny was getting on the bench with the first team back in 2011. He's had some absolutely shit luck with injuries, (knee, ankle, broken leg) and so hasn't played much football in the last few years, but was still offered a 3 year deal rather than being let go. He looks to have been moved to more of a 10 than from what he was when he was younger which was an off-the-shoulder striker with great pace.

Look forward to having a closer look at him playing in a more competitive environment - but agree that his chances must be wearing thin...

vid of him in a brentford friendly :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo9hNP43iiE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo9hNP43iiE)
 
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: dazfrancis on December 11, 2014, 03:33:44 PM
McAleny has already been named by Martinez so he is not one of the 'diamonds'

Looking forward to seeing him though, looks like a clever player
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: bluetongue on December 11, 2014, 04:18:31 PM
Thought i'd ask - any Aussie's (living in Liverpool) on this site going tonight? Just moved back and sitting at a pub in Walton on my own before is a bit sad     

:cheers:
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: hill135 on December 11, 2014, 04:35:38 PM
The diamonds must be Ledson and Kenny then. Don't think it will be Galloway as Roberto mentioned that it's an attempt to flaunt the successes of the youth system. Galloway didn't come through here. We teefed him from MK.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 11, 2014, 04:54:16 PM
Thought i'd ask - any Aussie's (living in Liverpool) on this site going tonight? Just moved back and sitting at a pub in Walton on my own before is a bit sad     

:cheers:

Does it have to be Aussies? I'm pretty sure someone from here would be up for a few beers with yer if you ask nicely!
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Ross on December 11, 2014, 05:00:46 PM
The diamonds must be Ledson and Kenny then. Don't think it will be Galloway as Roberto mentioned that it's an attempt to flaunt the successes of the youth system. Galloway didn't come through here. We teefed him from MK.

Wasn't the phrase "development squad"? I wouldn't be surprised to see Galloway and the Belgium kid take part at all.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: bluetongue on December 11, 2014, 05:13:50 PM
Of course not!
If anyone doesn't mind having an Aussie hanging around for a couple of pints pre-match please let me know!
I work with mostly reds... *sigh*   
 
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 11, 2014, 05:37:52 PM
Of course not!
If anyone doesn't mind having an Aussie hanging around for a couple of pints pre-match please let me know!
I work with mostly reds... *sigh*   
 
:thumbsup:

Whats the City avatar about?!

Welcome to the site btw :D
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: bluetongue on December 11, 2014, 05:58:40 PM
I was visiting England and went to an event called Soccerex in Manchester a couple of months back and some bloke from City had the trophy out so everyone could get their photos taken with it smiling and such. He was giving me a history of their proud club and how much it means to the fans when I was in the line for coffee.

So just as the photo was about to be taken, I stuck my tongue out at it and walked away. He wasn't impressed, but I love the shot someone snagged and sent me.

Thanks heaps, here for three months! :-) 
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: hill135 on December 11, 2014, 07:06:47 PM
Wasn't the phrase "development squad"? I wouldn't be surprised to see Galloway and the Belgium kid take part at all.

i thought he said development system, but I wasn't paying too much attention.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: GLewis on December 11, 2014, 07:10:14 PM
Wasn't the phrase "development squad"? I wouldn't be surprised to see Galloway and the Belgium kid take part at all.

They might take part but it has been put across that it'll be the lads who have come through the system.

It seems widely accepted that Ledson is definitely one of them.

Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: BrotherEstapol on December 11, 2014, 07:11:23 PM
Thought i'd ask - any Aussie's (living in Liverpool) on this site going tonight? Just moved back and sitting at a pub in Walton on my own before is a bit sad     

:cheers:
Trying asking on Everton Supporters Club Australia's Facebook Page, that's got some Aussies in Merseyside on there. :)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 11, 2014, 07:13:00 PM
So whats the side then?

Joel
Browning Alcaraz Barry Garbutt
Ledson ?????
Atsu Pienaar Oviedo
Kone
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: GLewis on December 11, 2014, 07:20:32 PM
So whats the side then?

Joel
Browning Alcaraz Barry Garbutt
Ledson ?????
Atsu Pienaar Oviedo
Kone

My Guess...

Robles

Kenny Browning Alcaraz Garbutt

Ledson Pienaar

Atsu McAleny Oviedo

Kone
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: GLewis on December 11, 2014, 07:21:22 PM
Maybe more of a 3 in midfield with Oviedo more inside (like against Swansea) and McAleny on the left wing.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 11, 2014, 07:27:39 PM
Maybe more of a 3 in midfield with Oviedo more inside (like against Swansea) and McAleny on the left wing.
I read somehwere that Barry was centre half but your team makes more sense
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Paddockoldie on December 11, 2014, 07:32:27 PM
I know it's a pointless game but I am really looking forward to this game, because of the team changes. It would be great to see a step up player showing the goods and becoming 1st team.

I also hope Kone shows what he's about too.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: itsmyprtyanimromelulukaku on December 11, 2014, 07:33:26 PM
Any idea on predicted attendance boys and girls, got a little bet on at work?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: itsmyprtyanimromelulukaku on December 11, 2014, 07:33:51 PM
I know it's a pointless game but I am really looking forward to this game, because of the team changes. It would be great to see a step up player showing the goods and becoming 1st team.

I also hope Kone shows what he's about too.

spot on me too looking forward to see what we have myself
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 11, 2014, 07:37:35 PM
Any idea on predicted attendance boys and girls, got a little bet on at work?
If I was a gambling man id back between 20 and 25k
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: brap2 on December 11, 2014, 07:37:42 PM
David Henen
‏@HenenDavid
Good LUCK my little brooooooo @liamwalsh_6 @RyanLedson97 @tybrowning @GethinJones8 @jonjoekenny8 @Everton (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3064) @OfficielArounaK

Liam Walsh (sub?)
Ryan Ledson (alongside Barry?)
Ty Browning (Rightback?)
Gethin Jones (sub?)
JonJo Kenny (alongside Alcaraz?)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 11, 2014, 07:40:21 PM
Jones looked good against Sunderland for the U21s.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Everton Mint on December 11, 2014, 07:51:32 PM
We're on the UEFA EL website ! :)

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/newsid=2191333.html#ten+claims+fame+everton (http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/newsid=2191333.html#ten+claims+fame+everton)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Everton Mint on December 11, 2014, 07:55:29 PM
Kevin Sheedy says Thursday’s Europa League game against FC Krasnodar will be an invaluable stepping stone for any young players who find themselves involved.

The Blues guaranteed top spot in Group H with a convincing 2-0 win over Wolfsburg at the Volkswagen Arena last month.

And, with Krasnodar unable to qualify, Roberto Martinez has confirmed he will use the fixture – a dead rubber – to test some of the Toffees’ younger players.

“It’s an interesting game and the manager has different players who he may want to play for different reasons,” Sheedy told evertonfc.com. “There may be a couple of senior players who need game time, but, obviously, it’s great to hear he will use the opportunity to blood some of the younger lads as well.

“Playing in a competition like the Europa League is massive for their development. When you look back at the last time we were in this situation [against BATE Borisov in 2009], quite a few of the Academy lads were given their debuts.

“Most of the current lads will have played at Goodison before with the Under-21s or the Under-18s, but it’s a completely new experience to be playing for the first team in front of the home fans.

“It’s vital for their education and it’ll do them good to play in that type of high-pressure situation.”

Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: bluetongue on December 11, 2014, 08:01:32 PM
Thanks will do!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Everton Mint on December 11, 2014, 08:08:25 PM
Krasnodar are locked in a heated battle with CSKA Moscow and Dynamo Moscow, currently three points off the second coveted Champions League slot.  This will be their last match until the end of the Russian Winter Break in March, so expect a strong squad looking to head into their break on a high note.

Ari, Joaozinho, and Wanderson gave our backline trouble in Krasnodar.  Look for them to test a young and inexperienced defensive unit.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: brap2 on December 11, 2014, 08:10:08 PM
Krasnodar are locked in a heated battle with CSKA Moscow and Dynamo Moscow, currently three points off the second coveted Champions League slot.  This will be their last match until the end of the Russian Winter Break in March, so expect a strong squad looking to head into their break on a high note.

Ari, Joaozinho, and Wanderson gave our backline trouble in Krasnodar.  Look for them to test a young and inexperienced defensive unit.

Ari is out - getting married this winter so has been given the game off.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 11, 2014, 08:14:24 PM
Joaozinho didn't play against us in Russia and Wanderson was on the bench.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: itsmyprtyanimromelulukaku on December 11, 2014, 08:30:16 PM
If I was a gambling man id back between 20 and 25k

I GOT <28K HE GOT >28K

PINT ON IT
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 11, 2014, 08:32:58 PM
I will try to keep my Oviedo gushing/manlove to a reasonable amount this afternoon.

Note I said TRY.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Alanvideo on December 11, 2014, 10:08:45 PM
I GOT <28K HE GOT >28K

PINT ON IT
............Unless there's a late rush I'd say <20k
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: hill135 on December 11, 2014, 10:11:03 PM
What's Liam Walsh like?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 11, 2014, 11:31:15 PM
this should be an ok stream for those outside the uk -

http://www.atdhe.cc/soccer/stream-39665a-everton-fc-vs-fk-krasnodar (http://www.atdhe.cc/soccer/stream-39665a-everton-fc-vs-fk-krasnodar)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: frenchy on December 11, 2014, 11:50:16 PM
this should be an ok stream for those outside the uk -

http://www.atdhe.cc/soccer/stream-39665a-everton-fc-vs-fk-krasnodar (http://www.atdhe.cc/soccer/stream-39665a-everton-fc-vs-fk-krasnodar)
Filmon will give the ITV coverage too.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: GLewis on December 11, 2014, 11:59:14 PM
Apparently neither Galloway nor Henen are eligible to play tonight.

Increases the chances of Kenny playing in that case.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 11, 2014, 11:59:59 PM
What's Liam Walsh like?
Who is liam Walsh
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 12, 2014, 12:03:33 AM
Who is liam Walsh

http://www.evertonfc.com/players/l/lw/liam-walsh (http://www.evertonfc.com/players/l/lw/liam-walsh)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 12:11:35 AM
http://www.evertonfc.com/players/l/lw/liam-walsh (http://www.evertonfc.com/players/l/lw/liam-walsh)
Used to play against Whiston as a kid
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Bob Sacamano on December 12, 2014, 12:21:17 AM
http://www.evertonfc.com/players/l/lw/liam-walsh (http://www.evertonfc.com/players/l/lw/liam-walsh)

1997. Jesus.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: jongre123 on December 12, 2014, 12:24:36 AM
Tottenham game was suspended for about 10 minutes, no doubt the start of our game will now be cut out.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 12:29:32 AM
1997. Jesus.
I did an exam last month and the lad next to me was born in 97

I started work in 97 :(
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Bob Sacamano on December 12, 2014, 12:31:39 AM
I did an exam last month and the lad next to me was born in 97

I started work in 97 :(

I hope you punched him for being such a young fuckface beaut. 
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Bally on December 12, 2014, 12:33:13 AM
My son was born in 97
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 12, 2014, 01:00:58 AM
Joel, Browning Alcaraz Barry Garbutt, Ledson Pienaar, Atsu McAleny Oviedo, Kone
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 12, 2014, 01:04:47 AM
Joel, Browning Alcaraz Barry Garbutt, Ledson Pienaar, Atsu McAleny Oviedo, Kone

eh?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 12, 2014, 01:09:22 AM
eh?

Joel, Browning Alcaraz Barry Garbutt, Ledson Pienaar, Atsu McAleny Oviedo, Kone :)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Outworlder47 on December 12, 2014, 01:09:49 AM
Joel, Browning Alcaraz Barry Garbutt, Ledson Pienaar, Atsu McAleny Oviedo, Kone
Certainly an experimental lineup, but lots of youth there is exciting. Barry is out for QPR, so it makes sense to play him in this fixture.

Don't care about the result, so long as there are no injuries and the youngsters acquit themselves well.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: hill135 on December 12, 2014, 01:13:20 AM
Pienaar at CM and Barry at CB. WTF? Still, made up with garbutt, Browning and Ledson playing.

That's possibly the slowest centre back pairing in the world.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: dazfrancis on December 12, 2014, 01:15:07 AM
Krasnodar have put out some experienced players (don't know enough about them to tell if it's full strength)

Hopefully, the young lads make a good go of it
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Bluedylan on December 12, 2014, 01:15:13 AM
Would rather we didn't get bummed though, because it could set a few of the young lads confidence back a bit. Might've played one or two more senior players in their proper positions to make the transition easer for the kids personally. Hope it goes well anyway.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: dazfrancis on December 12, 2014, 01:16:02 AM
Is Barry one of our young diamonds now  ;D
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Alex6691 on December 12, 2014, 01:16:49 AM
Pienaar at CM and Barry at CB. WTF? Still, made up with garbutt, Browning and Ledson playing.

That's possibly the slowest centre back pairing in the world.

Mertesacker and Mats Hummels say Hi.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: dazfrancis on December 12, 2014, 01:17:46 AM
6 players over 21 who have started dozens if not hundreds of senior games in their career. It's just a shame most of them are coming back from injury and haven't played regular football recently
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Outworlder47 on December 12, 2014, 01:19:13 AM
Bench:
Griffiths (GK), Grant, Long, Kenny, Williams, Jones, Dowell

All Academy grads there. Cool to see.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 12, 2014, 01:19:43 AM
 Pienaar captain
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: RB1878 on December 12, 2014, 01:22:38 AM
Mad looking team. Oviedo at CM with Barry CB
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: velimski on December 12, 2014, 01:24:12 AM
Personally wouldn't have bothered playing Barry. I know he's suspended for QPR, but he would have benefited from a 2 week rest.

There's also the risk that he might get injured in a meaningless game.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: WalterHarrow on December 12, 2014, 01:25:19 AM
Whats happening with coverage of the game on ITV4?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Bob Sacamano on December 12, 2014, 01:26:12 AM
Proper Moyes line-up that
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: velimski on December 12, 2014, 01:32:47 AM
any chance this game might be put back 10 minutes because of the floodlight problems in Turkey?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 01:41:08 AM
So I was right about Barry
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 12, 2014, 01:42:04 AM
wouldnt of played Barry at all.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 12, 2014, 01:42:16 AM
COME ON KONE MY LOVE
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: GLewis on December 12, 2014, 01:43:36 AM
So I was right about Barry

Unfortunately!

Can see why he's played him.

But it's not as though this really matters and there was plenty of experience out there anyway.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on December 12, 2014, 01:44:31 AM
Not got the TV on yet but thought they would said something by now
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 01:45:07 AM
Unfortunately!

Can see why he's played him.

But it's not as though this really matters and there was plenty of experience out there anyway.
It's a bit odd. I suppose he can't play Monday so he is just keeping him ticking over
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: GLewis on December 12, 2014, 01:46:22 AM
It's a bit odd. I suppose he can't play Monday so he is just keeping him ticking over

If he didn't look like he'd been rushed back I could understand the ticking over argument.

Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: TheRam on December 12, 2014, 01:47:56 AM
Pretty obvious that he wants to give him a go centre half to see what he's like, isn't it?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: toffee_scot on December 12, 2014, 01:49:36 AM
Nice to see Ledson being given his debut, I hope Alcaraz can get through this game without picking up an injury. Quite a few players on the bench I haven't heard of, for some this may be the only time they will get to play for Everton but for others, this might be the beginning of a great football career.

I'm just looking at this game as a friendly but of course I still want the players to do well. Martinez calls it a "celebration" game and believes some of the younger players are finally ready to step up so we shall see tonight. I don't expect Krasnodar to make it easy at all.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 01:51:48 AM
Is pienaar captain?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Optimistic Blue on December 12, 2014, 01:55:36 AM
Cant wait to see Robles and Kone shut a few lids up tonight
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: toffee_scot on December 12, 2014, 01:56:43 AM
Unfortunately!

Can see why he's played him.

But it's not as though this really matters and there was plenty of experience out there anyway.

Sometimes you need more experienced players on the pitch to help the youngsters, especially those just making their debut. Barry is already suspended for the QPR game and Martinez has already deployed him in the past as an emergency centre back so he might want to try that out again to prepare him in the event that 3 of our key centre backs are all out injured.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 12, 2014, 01:57:20 AM
Are they putting us on itv3 or something? Delayed kick off?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Tinga on December 12, 2014, 02:01:16 AM
Are they putting us on itv3 or something? Delayed kick off?

I think we just miss the first X minutes.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 12, 2014, 02:01:29 AM
Just missing the first 5-10 minutes completely then.

Cheers ITV
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: TheRam on December 12, 2014, 02:02:16 AM
They'll throw an advert in aswell
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Tinga on December 12, 2014, 02:04:17 AM
http://www.wiz1.net/channel34 (http://www.wiz1.net/channel34)

Put me on that best posters list ;)

enjoy.

http://www.livefootballsite.com/Channel1.html (http://www.livefootballsite.com/Channel1.html)

Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 02:04:19 AM
Kick off 805 ain't it
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 12, 2014, 02:04:46 AM
Fucking ITV wankers.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 12, 2014, 02:04:50 AM
Fucking lights again. Fuck off
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Optimistic Blue on December 12, 2014, 02:04:56 AM
Lights gone off again ffs
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Bob Sacamano on December 12, 2014, 02:05:09 AM
they best cut to us now the lights have gone again.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Ross on December 12, 2014, 02:05:39 AM
Now surely the producer should say fuck it, 3 minutes could be 20 cut to Goodison.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: TheRam on December 12, 2014, 02:05:51 AM
Best fucking put us on now
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: jongre123 on December 12, 2014, 02:06:06 AM
Just go there now. No one gives a fuck about tottenham, they're wank.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 12, 2014, 02:07:22 AM
only missed a minute. just hope they don't go back to their beloved london team...
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Ross on December 12, 2014, 02:07:57 AM
Fume subsided...
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 12, 2014, 02:08:05 AM
Townsend, Jesus wept
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 12, 2014, 02:08:24 AM
That's Granqvist off before half time then.....
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Optimistic Blue on December 12, 2014, 02:08:35 AM
Does anyone remember Joey Gudjonsson? he was a knob wernt he
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 12, 2014, 02:09:16 AM
Townsend, Jesus wept

Jesus died.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 12, 2014, 02:09:55 AM
Who's that lad up front for us? ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 12, 2014, 02:13:07 AM
hamstring...
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 12, 2014, 02:13:15 AM
Just what he needed
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: jongre123 on December 12, 2014, 02:13:52 AM
Tut..
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Bluedylan on December 12, 2014, 02:13:53 AM
Just what he needed

Martinez clearly doesn't rate him anyway.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: TheRam on December 12, 2014, 02:14:08 AM
Such a fail this lad
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Alex6691 on December 12, 2014, 02:14:20 AM
Who's injured?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 12, 2014, 02:14:23 AM
Faking it?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 02:14:29 AM
Another hamstring injury
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Danny on December 12, 2014, 02:14:45 AM
Who's injured?
Atsu
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 12, 2014, 02:14:46 AM
strong stuff from kone
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Bluedylan on December 12, 2014, 02:14:49 AM
Go ed Arouna lad!
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 02:15:05 AM
Which kid replaces atsu
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: jongre123 on December 12, 2014, 02:15:31 AM
Close
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 12, 2014, 02:15:33 AM
Faking it?

haha. i thought that. a 'fuck this weather' injury :)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 12, 2014, 02:15:44 AM
C'mon lad.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 02:16:00 AM
Dowell eh
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: toffee_scot on December 12, 2014, 02:16:04 AM
Atsu injured FFS

Kieran Dowell coming on, interesting
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Ross on December 12, 2014, 02:16:33 AM
He's 12 this kid Dowell...
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 12, 2014, 02:16:47 AM
Dowell eh

He's a good fit....
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 12, 2014, 02:17:14 AM
He's 12 this kid Dowell...

should slot in well...
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Alanvideo on December 12, 2014, 02:17:36 AM
Garbutt's corner is the best I've seen form an Everton player this season  :hail:
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Zoolander on December 12, 2014, 02:17:37 AM
Weather looks horrendous
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: gags on December 12, 2014, 02:17:40 AM
Our "new signing" no 9 has got Kone.A on his shirt. Is the A there because we genuinely don't know who he is or to differentiate between our other two new signings, traffic and ice cream. I apologise in advance.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 12, 2014, 02:17:46 AM
haha. i thought that. a 'fuck this weather' injury :)

Yeah. I wouldnt be surprise if we didn't see him again.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 12, 2014, 02:18:21 AM
should slot in well...

Good with tap ins.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Zoolander on December 12, 2014, 02:18:54 AM

should slot in well...

Ripple of applause from the Zoo household
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Thornton_19 on December 12, 2014, 02:19:17 AM
Was 100% expecting ITV to go back to the Spurs game then. Fucking glad they didn't.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Bluedylan on December 12, 2014, 02:19:28 AM
Not sure it's wise to play someone IN and around Kone, as Andy suggests.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 12, 2014, 02:20:17 AM
Sweet hit Konedog.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 12, 2014, 02:20:20 AM
nice try. kone's looking up for this, which is great news.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: WalterHarrow on December 12, 2014, 02:20:36 AM
I like the look of Dowell (only been two mins but still)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 02:21:03 AM
Good to see kones confidence isnt dented
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 02:21:36 AM
Decent save Joel too
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 12, 2014, 02:23:09 AM
Joel save it with his face?

Use yer hands man.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Bally on December 12, 2014, 02:23:36 AM
Robles bleeding from the face after that near post save
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: jongre123 on December 12, 2014, 02:24:07 AM
Decent save Joel too

Saving it with his face is a little unorthodox but it at least it wasn't a goal.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Redartin on December 12, 2014, 02:24:44 AM
Decent save Joel too

At the near post too with the blood pissing out of him. When did Howard ever do that?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Bob Sacamano on December 12, 2014, 02:24:59 AM
So that's why Howard has that hair cushion on his face.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Ross on December 12, 2014, 02:25:00 AM
Decent save Joel too

With his noise
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 12, 2014, 02:25:10 AM
Lol hand eye coordination is nonexistent with Robles.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 02:25:15 AM
A saves a save. If it gives him confidence then great
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: TheRam on December 12, 2014, 02:25:39 AM
Fucking saved it didn't he
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Optimistic Blue on December 12, 2014, 02:26:15 AM
Don't mean this in the wrong way but this is probably the most physically attractive team we have put out in a few years, would love to be in the showers after this game bet its a beautiful site

Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: RB1878 on December 12, 2014, 02:27:09 AM
Bravo Luke Garbutt
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 12, 2014, 02:27:10 AM
nice run from garbutt
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 02:27:19 AM
Don't mean this in the wrong way but this is probably the most physically attractive team we have put out in a few years, would love to be in the showers after this game bet its a beautiful site
Just an oh yes big boy away from being big doug there
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Thornton_19 on December 12, 2014, 02:27:39 AM
I know its a pointless game but i am very pleased that Pienaar is captain for the night.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Bob Sacamano on December 12, 2014, 02:27:46 AM
He's like a young baines.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: velimski on December 12, 2014, 02:28:19 AM
Don't mean this in the wrong way but this is probably the most physically attractive team we have put out in a few years, would love to be in the showers after this game bet its a beautiful site



did you not see the state of Robles' face with bog roll hanging out of his nose?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 02:28:21 AM
I know its a pointless game but i am very pleased that Pienaar is captain for the night.
I'm surprised it's not Barry but pleased for pienaar
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Zoolander on December 12, 2014, 02:29:25 AM
Really really hope Kone gets and stays fit.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: TheRam on December 12, 2014, 02:30:10 AM
Kone has an impeccable first touch
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 02:30:43 AM
Kone has an impeccable first touch
Was just about to say that
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Optimistic Blue on December 12, 2014, 02:31:25 AM
did you not see the state of Robles' face with bog roll hanging out of his nose?

Yeah but im into that though, he will need that bog roll when i shove his face up my arse so he can lick on my prostate x
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Ross on December 12, 2014, 02:31:36 AM
Lol hand eye coordination is nonexistent with Robles.

Couldn't pick his nose if he tried...

Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 12, 2014, 02:32:50 AM
Drop n roll.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Bluedylan on December 12, 2014, 02:32:58 AM
Garbutt even did a Bainesy pass inside then.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Redartin on December 12, 2014, 02:33:33 AM
Say one thing about Koné he can win and keep the ball. That's two things.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 02:33:34 AM
Oviedo really isn't a cm
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Danny on December 12, 2014, 02:34:24 AM
Couldn't pick his nose if he tried...



Had a bloody good go before though didn't he!
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 12, 2014, 02:35:20 AM
bollocks
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Optimistic Blue on December 12, 2014, 02:36:02 AM
I swear i keep hearing "Radzinski" and i keep getting horrible flashbacks

eeeek Robles a bit indecisive there
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 02:36:11 AM
Nice finish
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: velimski on December 12, 2014, 02:36:14 AM
and people want Howard to be dropped...
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Ross on December 12, 2014, 02:36:15 AM
Oh dear...
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Bluedylan on December 12, 2014, 02:36:16 AM
Haha, Howard's got his place sorted for the foreseeable.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: TheRam on December 12, 2014, 02:36:24 AM
Genuinely one of the worst pieces of goalkeeping I've ever seen
Title: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 12, 2014, 02:37:01 AM
He should have stayed with the defender

Edit: or marked the post!
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 12, 2014, 02:37:10 AM
Genuinely one of the worst pieces of goalkeeping I've ever seen

agreed. left the fucking door wide open.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Optimistic Blue on December 12, 2014, 02:38:08 AM
To be fair to Robles, their keeper looks dodgy as feck as well
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Bluedylan on December 12, 2014, 02:38:36 AM
it's the sort of thing an outfield player who didn't want to be in net in a 5 aside would do. Guess, and basically jump out of the way.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 12, 2014, 02:41:45 AM
To be fair to Robles, their keeper looks dodgy as feck as well

Can we swap?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Zoolander on December 12, 2014, 02:43:07 AM
Robles
good at using his face, no good at using his empty head.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 12, 2014, 02:43:11 AM
griffiths must be really shit if he can't get a shout ahead of robles.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 02:43:52 AM
griffiths must be really shit if he can't get a shout ahead of robles.
He is only 16 blob
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: TheRam on December 12, 2014, 02:44:14 AM
Garbutt aside, none of the young lads have impressed me.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 12, 2014, 02:44:15 AM
Is the Green machine on the bench?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 12, 2014, 02:44:54 AM
Garbutt if a little older though, McAleny aside.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 12, 2014, 02:45:35 AM
He is only 16 blob

if he's good enough...
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Zoolander on December 12, 2014, 02:45:58 AM

griffiths must be really shit if he can't get a shout ahead of robles.
to be honest, I have a pot plant in my lounge that would be a decent replacement for Robles.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Redartin on December 12, 2014, 02:46:29 AM
Robles
good at using his face,......


Not as good as this guy

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2274214-yales-goalkeeper-saves-five-penalties-with-his-face-in-funny-new-sketch (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2274214-yales-goalkeeper-saves-five-penalties-with-his-face-in-funny-new-sketch)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: velimski on December 12, 2014, 02:46:59 AM
Is the Green machine on the bench?

Unfortunately not. Think he's injured atm.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Thornton_19 on December 12, 2014, 02:47:15 AM
Garbutt looks full of beans tonight.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 12, 2014, 02:47:56 AM
garbutt really is the shining light here.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Ari on December 12, 2014, 02:48:34 AM
I'm really amased how many of you are football managers.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 02:48:40 AM
Garbutts impressing, I think ledson is doing well considering too
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 12, 2014, 02:48:56 AM
Bollocks that.

Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Optimistic Blue on December 12, 2014, 02:49:18 AM
Garbutts link up with Pienaar then was exceptional

Hmmm i wonder who hes been learning from hahahaha
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Bally on December 12, 2014, 02:49:19 AM
Ridiculous decision  that only lifted as his body came in, fucking fanny
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Ross on December 12, 2014, 02:51:36 AM
This young right side centre back is pulling Barry through this game.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: chang on December 12, 2014, 02:51:49 AM
We have a player who can take a corner.  :clap:
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Redartin on December 12, 2014, 02:51:56 AM
Krasnodar play a bit like our first team, pass a lot and go nowhere.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Thornton_19 on December 12, 2014, 02:52:16 AM
Garbutts link up with Pienaar then was exceptional

Hmmm i wonder who hes been learning from hahahaha

Hibbert.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 12, 2014, 02:52:42 AM
Garbutt, Pienaar and Kone obvious standouts.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Bluedylan on December 12, 2014, 02:53:11 AM
if Kone can stay fit, he's going to be a real asset with his movement, strength and touch.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Major Clanger on December 12, 2014, 02:53:56 AM
Whichever cunt said Garbutt's running reminds him of Luke Shaw should fuck off.

It's nothing like Shaw and every inch like Baines (surprise, surprise), even his "there's nothing on but I need to do something" runs are similar.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 12, 2014, 02:54:03 AM
classic 'don't play together much at this level', but doing ok.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: sootyjrw on December 12, 2014, 02:54:49 AM
I'd swap Oviedo and Pienaar's positions, Oviedo is not a CM and the game is passing him by
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Thornton_19 on December 12, 2014, 02:56:19 AM
Wouldn't be against putting Browning CB and bringing Kenny on for Barry.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 02:57:18 AM
I'd swap Oviedo and Pienaar's positions, Oviedo is not a CM and the game is passing him by
Ledson is in cm on his own
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: toffee_scot on December 12, 2014, 02:58:27 AM
Would be nice to get something out of the game if we can. Hopefully Kone has the stamina to last the full 90 minutes. Maybe a change in central midfield is needed just to control the game a bit more.

Stand out player for me has been Garbutt, he certainly has stepped up, bollocks to Atsu coming off injured but then we rarely go through a game without a player picking up a hamstring or similar injury.

Sadly, Robles made an error in judgement which led to the Krasnodar goal. And for that reason he may be further away from first team football than ever before. Did the commentator say he had been linked recently to Sevilla?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 12, 2014, 02:58:32 AM
Grant might come on at CM some point, Martinez is a fan.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 02:59:43 AM
Ha ha that goal is fucking hilarious
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Everton Mint on December 12, 2014, 02:59:59 AM
Kone pretty decent and our left side with Garbutt, Oviedo & Pienaar linking up.

Shame about Atsu - not much down the right now.

Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: hill135 on December 12, 2014, 03:01:01 AM
Really like the look of Garbutt. Looks like he's been putting the hours in learning from the master. He's a bit 'straight lines' but in time he could be a boss.

Oviedo really isn't a utility player.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Everton Mint on December 12, 2014, 03:01:06 AM
Stats

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/512/mcs/media/images/79679000/jpg/_79679212_everton.jpg)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: TheRam on December 12, 2014, 03:01:42 AM
I think Oviedo has played well tbh
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Everton Mint on December 12, 2014, 03:02:07 AM
Few facts from tonight - out of the 11 academy graduates involved, 10 are English and one is Welsh. Eight were born on Merseyside... :)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 03:02:11 AM
Stat attack

A supposed itk on tef reckons Liverpool are sniffing around Garbutt
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 03:02:45 AM
I think Oviedo has played well tbh
All the good stuff he has done has been out wide imo. He has left ledson exposed a lot
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: GLewis on December 12, 2014, 03:04:13 AM
Ledson is in cm on his own

Yeah disappointed with this shape.

He's playing as the deeper CM which is difficult. Would have been easier for him with an actual CM there to help him.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: toffee_scot on December 12, 2014, 03:04:28 AM
With Garbutt stepping up, there is a bit of a conundrum as to what to do with Oviedo, left back is supposedly meant to be his best position but while it's thought he can play in midfield, I'm not sure that's where his skills are best utilised.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Bluedylan on December 12, 2014, 03:04:30 AM
The line-up has been pretty unfair to Ledson. Left him a bit high and dry at times. Should've put Barry in there next to him.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blueski on December 12, 2014, 03:04:41 AM
lads

just got in from work in time to see the 2nd half

who is partnering barry? is the teamsheet right and alcaraz returned?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: hill135 on December 12, 2014, 03:05:14 AM
Get Barry in the middle, Browning to Cb and Kenny on at RB. That way Ledson should grow in to the game and we get to size up Browning in his supposedly best position.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Zoolander on December 12, 2014, 03:05:37 AM
This would have been a nice game to try Baines in the centre. Seeing as Roberto's mentioned it before.
Not that I'm in any way against resting him mind.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 03:06:01 AM
Yeah disappointed with this shape.

He's playing as the deeper CM which is difficult. Would have been easier for him with an actual CM there to help him.
Oviedo isn't a cm. He is a tidy footballer but not a cm in any way. Leaving ledson massively exposed which is a shame for  him
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: toffee_scot on December 12, 2014, 03:06:12 AM
lads

just got in from work in time to see the 2nd half

who is partnering barry? is the teamsheet right and alcaraz returned?

Alcaraz is partnering Barry in defence.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: GLewis on December 12, 2014, 03:07:20 AM
it's the sort of thing an outfield player who didn't want to be in net in a 5 aside would do. Guess, and basically jump out of the way.

Ha.

Good description.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 03:08:05 AM
Any subs??
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blueski on December 12, 2014, 03:08:32 AM
Alcaraz is partnering Barry in defence.
thought he was still out that was a surprise

saw highights and that goal looks very soft

Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: GLewis on December 12, 2014, 03:08:36 AM
Looks like Pienaar to CM.

Oviedo right and McAleny left.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Redartin on December 12, 2014, 03:10:07 AM
As if RS will make the last 16 - dickhead
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 03:12:12 AM
Browning with the best unintentional pass ever
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blueToffee on December 12, 2014, 03:12:26 AM
Better from Robles there.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 03:12:41 AM
Kone dogg...  Unlucky
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Zoolander on December 12, 2014, 03:13:33 AM
Cool as ice cream Kone
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 12, 2014, 03:13:50 AM
Goddammit. Might have to take back all I've said about Kone in the last 18 months....
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blueToffee on December 12, 2014, 03:13:59 AM
I want to start playing Garbutt in the first XI just for his corners.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: WalterHarrow on December 12, 2014, 03:14:28 AM
There should be a rule in the Premier League that lets you bring on a player from the bench just to take free kicks. Garbutt has great delivery
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blueToffee on December 12, 2014, 03:14:50 AM
Kone making a much better impression in his "second debut" here. Hope he can snag a goal to top it off.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 12, 2014, 03:16:09 AM
There should be a rule in the Premier League that lets you bring on a player from the bench just to take free kicks. Garbutt has great delivery

Steady on, that's a bit too close to American football for my liking ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Bluedylan on December 12, 2014, 03:16:15 AM
To be honest anyone who wrote Kone off was being a bit of an ignorant dick. He's been a good player for years.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Gash on December 12, 2014, 03:19:49 AM
To be honest anyone who wrote Kone off was being a bit of an ignorant dick. He's been a good player for years.

I don't think anyone wrote him off as a player, but there were understandable concerns as to whether he'd get back from his injury when his return kept moving back.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 12, 2014, 03:20:44 AM
I'd pay to watch Garbutt cross a ball.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 03:21:01 AM
Garbutts delivery is really impressive. Pienaar really looks better now in the middle too
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Thornton_19 on December 12, 2014, 03:21:03 AM
Got to be sorting Garbutts contract out.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 12, 2014, 03:21:48 AM
we're a better match for them this half. plenty of promising play.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: TheRam on December 12, 2014, 03:22:36 AM
I don't think anyone wrote him off as a player, but there were understandable concerns as to whether he'd get back from his injury when his return kept moving back.

Even when we signed him people were saying he was shit tbf
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Bluedylan on December 12, 2014, 03:22:38 AM
I don't think anyone wrote him off as a player, but there were understandable concerns as to whether he'd get back from his injury when his return kept moving back.

Yep, the injury stuff is fair enough. i'm more referring to people slaughtering him as a player cos he hit the post in one game from a sitter and generally ripping the piss out of hm.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 12, 2014, 03:23:25 AM
head up robles...

haha. no need.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 03:24:01 AM
Worst free kick.......
 Ever
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 12, 2014, 03:24:10 AM
Wanderson looks like some BJJ expert.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blueToffee on December 12, 2014, 03:24:50 AM
To be honest anyone who wrote Kone off was being a bit of an ignorant dick. He's been a good player for years.

I don't think we'd seen enough of him to write him off. But I think most would agree his first impression couldn't have been much worse, and clearly there was genuine concern that he'd ever get the chance to make a second impression. Right now I'm just glad he's seemingly running around without showing signs of that awful injury. The performance so far is kind of a bonus, but definitely a welcome one.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 12, 2014, 03:26:53 AM
To be honest anyone who wrote Kone off was being a bit of an ignorant dick. He's been a good player for years.

Up to this point he's done fuck all squared in an Everton shirt bar miss sitters.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Gash on December 12, 2014, 03:28:32 AM
Even when we signed him people were saying he was shit tbf

There's hardly a player signed where some people don't think that.

For someone out the game as long as he's been he's looked sharp tonight.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Ross on December 12, 2014, 03:28:50 AM
Is Gibson injured
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Bluedylan on December 12, 2014, 03:29:33 AM
Up to this point he's done fuck all squared in an Everton shirt bar miss sitters.

True but he was dead good for Wigan, and the same for Sevilla (when he wasn't injured). it's basically cos he came from Wigan, cos he got injured and cos some of our fans would put Daily Mail readers to shame in their ability to jump on a bandwagon.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Thornton_19 on December 12, 2014, 03:29:41 AM
Is Gibson injured

Is the sky blue?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Trowel on December 12, 2014, 03:30:42 AM
Great run from Kone, unlucky.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Ross on December 12, 2014, 03:31:33 AM
Is the sky blue?

Just thought with the second coming of Kone maybe Lazarus might make the bench as well.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: hill135 on December 12, 2014, 03:32:22 AM
We're looking a lot better with this new shape. Ledson has come in to it playing as a single pivot, which is encouraging.

Been impressed by Dowell. Only 17.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 12, 2014, 03:32:28 AM
Far too greedy from McAleny
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 12, 2014, 03:33:02 AM
I like Kone, he's playing great tonight and without hindsight he was a good signing at 6m. Get fuck all for that these days and he's a good mobile target man. He'll be well worth the money if he stays fit
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Alex6691 on December 12, 2014, 03:33:04 AM
Not impressed by McAleny. Never have been either. Seems to have poor decision making.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blue slug on December 12, 2014, 03:33:20 AM
Kone has looked pretty sharp tonight considering
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 12, 2014, 03:33:23 AM
Far too greedy from McAleny

always the same. tries to be too clever.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Ari on December 12, 2014, 03:33:51 AM
Any chance Arouna Kone will lure Yaya Touré to us in jan?

Kone is playing well today.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 12, 2014, 03:35:32 AM
Can't believe they fucked that up
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 12, 2014, 03:35:46 AM
True but he was dead good for Wigan, and the same for Sevilla (when he wasn't injured). it's basically cos he came from Wigan, cos he got injured and cos some of our fans would put Daily Mail readers to shame in their ability to jump on a bandwagon.

The way youre going on you'd think he was fuckin Messi.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 12, 2014, 03:35:52 AM
fucking hell. robles on walkabout again. could have been 2 down.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Cassius on December 12, 2014, 03:35:57 AM
True but he was dead good for Wigan, and the same for Sevilla (when he wasn't injured). it's basically cos he came from Wigan, cos he got injured and cos some of our fans would put Daily Mail readers to shame in their ability to jump on a bandwagon.

I think what also concerned some people at the time was the amount of money spent, or at least the % of our window's budget, on a 29 year old.

Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Outworlder47 on December 12, 2014, 03:37:44 AM
Officials have lost the plot.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 12, 2014, 03:42:17 AM
Need to make some subs.

Games gone flat.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Shogun on December 12, 2014, 03:43:12 AM
Need to make some subs.

Games gone flat.

There you go, bit of pace as well.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 12, 2014, 03:43:23 AM
good sub. let's hope it pays off.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Thornton_19 on December 12, 2014, 03:44:42 AM
For a proper meaningless game the refs being a proper jobsworth
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blueToffee on December 12, 2014, 03:47:31 AM
True but he was dead good for Wigan, and the same for Sevilla (when he wasn't injured). it's basically cos he came from Wigan, cos he got injured and cos some of our fans would put Daily Mail readers to shame in their ability to jump on a bandwagon.

Still think that's being a bit harsh. The concern most people had was his age when he signed and how much we were paying for him (as up until that point 6mil could've been our entire budget). 6 mil now against the money we spent recently suddenly seems more like peanuts. Also to be fair, this game is not going to be where we get to decide if he was a good signing or not.

I'm not trying to say people who wrote him off on the back of his initial impression were sensible, but there was more to it than he fluffed a couple of sitters and he'd been signed from Wigan.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: TheRam on December 12, 2014, 03:48:35 AM
Nah, there were definitely people saying he was shite, purely due to the fact he came from Wigan 
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 12, 2014, 03:51:54 AM
Nah, there were definitely people saying he was shite, purely due to the fact he came from Wigan 

Ok, I don't believe you but im willing to have (virtual) egg smeared all over my face if you can prove it. :)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blueToffee on December 12, 2014, 03:51:55 AM
Nah, there were definitely people saying he was shite, pure due to the fact he came from Wigan 

Well, there were/are people saying we wasted our money on Lukaku (aka Lakaku). It's a forum, you're always going to get one or two but I don't think it was the popular opinion.

But whatever, not really important at this point so I shouldn't belabour the point. Personally, I'm just pleased to see Kone moving about seemingly injury free and giving us another option in our attacking department which has yet to find it's best balance.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Cassius on December 12, 2014, 03:52:33 AM
Dowell has a really red face.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Ari on December 12, 2014, 03:53:48 AM
I like the way Unsworth clapped for Gethin Jones...
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: hill135 on December 12, 2014, 03:54:28 AM
Clive stealing my Gethin Jones presents Blue Peter joke and getting disapproving comments from Townsend  :blush:

Is he a right back then?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Ross on December 12, 2014, 03:54:37 AM
Get'in Jones should play up front surely?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 12, 2014, 03:55:49 AM
Enjoyed that. In a wierd not winning or even scoring kinda way.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: kramer0 on December 12, 2014, 03:56:53 AM
Enjoyed that. In a wierd not winning or even scoring kinda way.

I know exactly what you mean.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 12, 2014, 03:57:30 AM
Enjoyed that. In a wierd not winning or even scoring kinda way.

same. always like to win, but i'm sure rm learned a few things...and no harm done.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Bluedylan on December 12, 2014, 03:58:40 AM
Still think that's being a bit harsh. The concern most people had was his age when he signed and how much we were paying for him (as up until that point 6mil could've been our entire budget). 6 mil now against the money we spent recently suddenly seems more like peanuts. Also to be fair, this game is not going to be where we get to decide if he was a good signing or not.

I'm not trying to say people who wrote him off on the back of his initial impression were sensible, but there was more to it than he fluffed a couple of sitters and he'd been signed from Wigan.

Not even saying he's suddenly proven his worth, or it's been a great signing. Just said that writing him off was silly (fitness aside) because you only had to watch him for Wigan or Sevilla to know he has been a good player for years who could fit our style really well.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 12, 2014, 03:58:55 AM
Didn't really see the game until the 60th minute. Some promising youngsters there, plus Kone looks sharp. Some positives to take from tonight.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: cjohno100 on December 12, 2014, 03:59:04 AM
tough for the kids playing with players all coming back from injury but they did well enough, didnt really see anyone to push the first team squad except garbutt but we knew he was good enough. robles was poor for there goal and we still need competition for howard.             
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blueToffee on December 12, 2014, 03:59:05 AM
Not even saying he's suddenly proven his worth, or it's been a great signing. Just said that writing him off was silly (fitness aside) because you only had to watch him for Wigan or Sevilla to know he has been a good player for years who could fit our style really well.

Agree :)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: GLewis on December 12, 2014, 03:59:45 AM
Was ok in the end.

Agree with the point made at half time that it's difficult for any player when the whole team isn't used to playing together.

Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blueToffee on December 12, 2014, 04:02:09 AM
I know he's not the finished article, but what do we do with Garbutt? It's like we cloned Baines and improved his corner taking ability in the process. Send him out on loan? Start thinking about Martinez' master plan to move Baines into CM?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Bluedylan on December 12, 2014, 04:02:15 AM
That was fine. it wasn't like we threw in a load of kids against a lower league team, they are a team with internationals who are in the upper reaches of a decent league.

Thought we matched up quite well tbh.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 12, 2014, 04:04:00 AM
Garbutt's gonna be shit-hot isn't he?!
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: velimski on December 12, 2014, 04:05:55 AM
I know he's not the finished article, but what do we do with Garbutt? It's like we cloned Baines and improved his corner taking ability in the process. Send him out on loan? Start thinking about Martinez' master plan to move Baines into CM?

tricky one isn't it.....especially as we also have Oviedo who's best position is left back imo.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: kramer0 on December 12, 2014, 04:07:07 AM
That was fine. it wasn't like we threw in a load of kids against a lower league team, they are a team with internationals who are in the upper reaches of a decent league.

Thought we matched up quite well tbh.

This.  The game was even (possession, shots, etc.), although they probably created the two best chances.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: sirblue57 on December 12, 2014, 04:07:46 AM
robles is the shittest keeper since dai "the fucking vampire" davies. get rid.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: WalterHarrow on December 12, 2014, 04:11:15 AM
I personally think that this game helped show Martinez that he shouldnt have any worries about playing a few youngsters with a few first team players in the FA Cup (Garbutt, Browning etc). We need first team players for Premier League and Europa but (even though we lost today) the young players showed that they can give a decent performance when needed (they will no doubt be better with more experienced, fitter firts team players mixed in)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: toffee_scot on December 12, 2014, 04:11:58 AM
Ah well, we played what was almost a 3rd string side against Krasnodar's 1st team so many of the players gave a good account of themselves.

Positives:
- Compared to that BATE Borisov tie 5 years ago, I thought this game was much better and there are probably more promising youngsters now than there were back then.
- Garbutt had another good game and has shown he is ready to play in the first team even though he has strong competition in Leighton Baines.
- Kone managed to last 90 minutes and has brought some elements that are sometimes missing from Lukaku's game. He has shown he's ready to step back into the first team and even challenge Lukaku for his place.
- Martinez used all 3 subs, even if Gethin Jones coming on was more a token appearance, at least if he wasn't to make it at Everton, that would be something to tell the grandkids.
- A better 2nd half compared to the 1st half, normally it's the other way round at Everton.
- Barry has shown he can competently fill in at the back if circumstances dictated he should play there in emergencies.
- Alcaraz survived 90 minutes without getting injured.
- Some glimpses of good play from the youngsters including Browning, Dowell had a chance to score and Chris Long was quite positive too. Ledson was a little bit in the deep end in the first half but he did not disgrace himself at all with his performance.
- Lots of key players were rested tonight so hopefully they should be a little rejuvenated for the QPR game.

Negatives:
- Atsu's injury, I believe he would have made a significant impact if he had avoided it. This loan spell has just not  worked out for him has it?
- Robles: Made one good save but he was at fault for the Krasnodar goal. Howard's place is well and firmly secured.
- Not too impressed with McAleny, thought it was a good call to sub him off.
- Second game in a row we have failed to score and it's never nice to lose a game even if it is a meaningless game, however at the same time if the youngsters are mentally tough then they should bounce back from it and become better players.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: wepull on December 12, 2014, 04:15:33 AM
robles is the shittest keeper since dai "the fucking vampire" davies. get rid.

Seems to have a stiff back, never seems to bend.

Browning doesn't seem to be a RB to me. Otherwise not a bad performance for a team largely made up of our injury list and younger players. Garbutt was the best player for us. We have 3 very good players of different ages vying for one position, that's going to be an issue for us in the future.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 04:17:57 AM
I'm gonna say this once and only once

Garbutt did very well yes, he is not in anyway as good as, better  or in anyway going to replace baines in the near future.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 12, 2014, 04:21:26 AM
I'm gonna say this once and only once

Garbutt did very well yes, he is not in anyway as good as, better  or in anyway going to replace baines in the near future.

It took Baines ages to get to the player he is now. Nobody hardly heard of him at Wigan and he was quiet for the first part of his Everton career.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 04:23:18 AM
It took Baines ages to get to the player he is now. Nobody hardly heard of him at Wigan and he was quiet for the first part of his Everton career.
Agreed. Garbutt needs to be loaned out to a prem side. He is not gonna replace baines
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: hill135 on December 12, 2014, 04:24:17 AM
First thing we need to do with Garbutt is tie him down to a new deal. His current one runs out this summer.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 04:24:58 AM
First thing we need to do with Garbutt is tie him down to a new deal. His current one runs out this summer.
Apparently Liverpool sniffing
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: TheRam on December 12, 2014, 04:26:17 AM
Nobodies saying he should replace Baines in the short term. But he's definitely shown he can replace him in the long term.

Just hope he's patient enough to stick it out with us. Can defo see a prem side coming in for him after recent performances
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 12, 2014, 04:28:17 AM
I'm gonna say this once and only once

Garbutt did very well yes, he is not in anyway as good as, better  or in anyway going to replace baines in the near future.

i agree, but he's - baines - 30 today, so  i really hope that we hang on to garbutt for a seamless change...one day.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 04:28:35 AM
Nobodies saying he should replace Baines in the short term. But he's definitely shown he can replace him in the long term.

Just hope he's patient enough to stick it out with us. Can defo see a prem side coming in for him after recent performances
Plenty are saying. It's deja with Oviedo this time last year.

He defo can replace him long term tho, no doubting that
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: hill135 on December 12, 2014, 04:30:49 AM
i agree, but he's - baines - 30 today, so  i really hope that we hang on to garbutt for a seamless change...one day.

Happy birthday Leighton!
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 12, 2014, 04:35:09 AM
Fuck me, I'm exactly ten years older than Baines  :-\
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: GLewis on December 12, 2014, 04:36:53 AM
I suppose the issue is whether we make Garbutt 2nd choice for whenever Baines can't play.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 04:36:56 AM
Fuck me, I'm exactly ten years older than Baines  :-\


Happy birthday you old get

Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 12, 2014, 04:37:41 AM
He will replace Baines at some point, he has time on his side, bags of it.  There's about half dozen youngsters we should be tying down on long term deals to keep the wolves away, then loaning them out for a year.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 04:37:51 AM
I suppose the issue is whether we make Garbutt 2nd choice for whenever Baines can't play.
I think he is and Oviedos utility will harm his career
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 12, 2014, 04:38:11 AM

Happy birthday you old get



Not today James, Saturday.

(Cheers)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 12, 2014, 04:39:26 AM
I suppose the issue is whether we make Garbutt 2nd choice for whenever Baines can't play.

We should be using Oviedo for that every now and then whilst Garbutt matures.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 12, 2014, 04:39:57 AM
Fuck me, I'm exactly ten years older than Baines  :-\

happy birthday   :cheers:

ffs. saturday? wtf is exact about that :)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: hill135 on December 12, 2014, 04:40:06 AM
I would make Garbutt second choice. He's young English, home-grown, similar to Baines in style and looks highly promising. And Evertonian in NC will tool me senseless for saying it, but Oviedo ain't all that.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: charlatan on December 12, 2014, 04:40:09 AM
Some of the kids look like excellent prospects, Garbutt and Ledson in particular.  Also impressed by Kone, got a great touch.

Would have thought it an ideal game for Barkley to try and play himself into some form unless he was injured?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 04:41:03 AM
Not today James, Saturday.

(Cheers)
Happy birthday for Saturday you old get
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 12, 2014, 04:42:00 AM
happy birthday   :cheers:

See above!

It wasn't put across very well, plus it wasn't a piss poor attempt at a hint either!
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Major Clanger on December 12, 2014, 04:42:54 AM
Some of the kids look like excellent prospects, Garbutt and Ledson in particular.  Also impressed by Kone, got a great touch.

Would have thought it an ideal game for Barkley to try and play himself into some form unless he was injured?

I don't think it would help Barkley much if he played with unfamiliar faces in an unfamiliar formation.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blob on December 12, 2014, 04:43:04 AM
See above!

It wasn't put across very well, plus it wasn't a piss poor attempt at a hint either!

also see above :)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: GLewis on December 12, 2014, 04:43:09 AM
I think he is and Oviedos utility will harm his career

Well I wouldn't say he is too much of a utility player at our level.

But yeah he can be moved around which as you may hamper him.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: GLewis on December 12, 2014, 04:47:03 AM
We should be using Oviedo for that every now and then whilst Garbutt matures.

Yes but I'm thinking of if we need a "carrot" to make sure he stays.

21 with 2 players in front of you would seem a long way from regular 1st team football.

As has been said if we could get him to a top Championship or lower level PL team that'd be ideal.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 04:49:14 AM
Well I wouldn't say he is too much of a utility player at our level.

But yeah he can be moved around which as you may hamper him.
He played cm, rm and will no doubt be used as an lm this year

Not a lb.... His best position
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: charlatan on December 12, 2014, 04:51:06 AM
I don't think it would help Barkley much if he played with unfamiliar faces in an unfamiliar formation.

Not exactly helped him with familiar faces the last few games ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 12, 2014, 04:52:28 AM
Yes but I'm thinking of if we need a "carrot" to make sure he stays.

21 with 2 players in front of you would seem a long way from regular 1st team football.

As has been said if we could get him to a top Championship or lower level PL team that'd be ideal.

Good point like.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: GLewis on December 12, 2014, 04:52:35 AM
He played cm, rm and will no doubt be used as an lm this year

Not a lb.... His best position

No.

Which may be an indication that he is behind Garbutt.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 04:58:14 AM
No.

Which may be an indication that he is behind Garbutt.
Exactly.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: pjk on December 12, 2014, 05:17:58 AM
I saw the game in two halves. First half in the pub live, and by the  time ide'd sorted myself out, saw the second half on channel 4+1. I thought it was a great game for everyones opinions to see. just a shame we lost it. The older professionals shone above the kids. Well if you're Blues that was interesting. Bryan Oviedo is a player :)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Sir Stealth on December 12, 2014, 05:28:48 AM
I saw the game in two halves. First half in the pub live, and by the  time ide'd sorted myself out, saw the second half on channel 4+1. I thought it was a great game for everyones opinions to see. just a shame we lost it. The older professionals shone above the kids. Well if you're Blues that was interesting. Bryan Oviedo is a player :)

Haha I think most saw it in 2 halves Peej!
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 12, 2014, 05:41:22 AM
I would make Garbutt second choice. He's young English, home-grown, similar to Baines in style and looks highly promising. And Evertonian in NC will tool me senseless for saying it, but Oviedo ain't all that.

Not at all.  Right now, we need to use him more in a forward role, anyway.  And I haven't seen a whole lot from him, post-injury.  I'm depressed about it, but it's true.

LOVE GARBUTT'S CORNERS
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 12, 2014, 05:42:30 AM
My only real other takeaway from that dreadfully boring, rain-soaked fixture is that Kone looked much more spry than I expected.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 12, 2014, 05:46:45 AM
We have Europa, and the FA Cup.  Plenty of games to give Garbutt some time on the pitch and not run Bainesy into the fucking ground.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Major Clanger on December 12, 2014, 05:48:45 AM
I'll consolidate my opinion on the youngsters into one, easily mockable post. :)

Garbutt, I think he's as complete as he can be without regular first team football. Barring injuries, sending him out on loan for a strong Championship team (at least) in January is a must.
Ledson, he had a good game but it's a difficult position to master. He can probably still improve in the U21s with the odd sub appearance in games when we aren't pressed too much.
Browning, he's definitely not a full back. I can see how the experience helps him but it also makes it impossible for us to judge how good he would be if he played CB. (After all, Jags was supposed to be a capable right back and he turned out to be awful there.)
McAleny, I'm struggling with him. He has a good engine and his touch is good but he seems to have no awareness of what's going on around him. Maybe the speed is too much for him, maybe he isn't capable of it. Either way, at 22 he must play competitive games somewhere, anywhere really.
Dowell, he's clearly way too young for this yet, he seems to be physically immature. At 17 and with his body shape that's fine.

Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: pjk on December 12, 2014, 06:08:36 AM
We have Europa, and the FA Cup.  Plenty of games to give Garbutt some time on the pitch and not run Bainesy into the fucking ground.




Haha. Who's been rattling your cage tonight. :)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Ross on December 12, 2014, 06:08:57 AM
Oviedo is poor unless he's played on the left.

We've a managerial problem now were Martinez needs to assess Garbutts future inpact and progression over Baines's fitness and availability.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: pjk on December 12, 2014, 06:17:08 AM
Oviedo is poor unless he's played on the left.

We've a managerial problem now were Martinez needs to assess Garbutts future inpact and progression over Baines's fitness and availab
Oviedo is poor unless he's played on the left.





I'm an Oviedo fan. Was he on the right tonight for the first time?




Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: TheRam on December 12, 2014, 06:18:50 AM
He's played on the right a few times and impressed.

Played well tonight when out wide. He's got real quality on the ball

I'd have him as first choice out wide tbh if Pienaar can't sort his fitness
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 12, 2014, 06:40:10 AM
Pienaar role makes sense.  Neither one is fit enough to handle the role full-time, so a 50/50 job share for starters.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blueski on December 12, 2014, 06:50:37 AM
I am a big Oviedo fan but his movement was poor in this game probably down to not enough competitive games yet but I don't know why with time he can't be the foil for an overlapping coleman on the right

Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: GLewis on December 12, 2014, 12:47:14 PM
I'll consolidate my opinion on the youngsters into one, easily mockable post. :)

Garbutt, I think he's as complete as he can be without regular first team football. Barring injuries, sending him out on loan for a strong Championship team (at least) in January is a must.
Ledson, he had a good game but it's a difficult position to master. He can probably still improve in the U21s with the odd sub appearance in games when we aren't pressed too much.
Browning, he's definitely not a full back. I can see how the experience helps him but it also makes it impossible for us to judge how good he would be if he played CB. (After all, Jags was supposed to be a capable right back and he turned out to be awful there.)
McAleny, I'm struggling with him. He has a good engine and his touch is good but he seems to have no awareness of what's going on around him. Maybe the speed is too much for him, maybe he isn't capable of it. Either way, at 22 he must play competitive games somewhere, anywhere really.
Dowell, he's clearly way too young for this yet, he seems to be physically immature. At 17 and with his body shape that's fine.



Agreed.

On Dowell they must think he's excellent technically.

I could see his playing style getting some stick in years to come from certain sections of our fan base. Seemed to be classically "laconic" in a no.10 way.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Toddacelli on December 12, 2014, 02:14:19 PM
My only real other takeaway from that dreadfully boring, rain-soaked fixture is that Kone looked much more spry than I expected.

You get a 'Cool' for using "spry" and "Kone" in the same sentence!
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Toddacelli on December 12, 2014, 02:26:18 PM
Fuck me, I'm EXACTLY 6 years, 11 months and 6 days older than Baines!
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: itsmyprtyanimromelulukaku on December 12, 2014, 02:34:14 PM
am i right in thinking first game will be away?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: minty on December 12, 2014, 02:47:10 PM
It took Baines ages to get to the player he is now. Nobody hardly heard of him at Wigan and he was quiet for the first part of his Everton career.

Nonsense. He was extremely well known when at Wigan. He was one of the most talked about left- backs in the league as you would expect being an England U21 player in a country where every half decent youngster is going to be the next Shearer/Gascoigne/Adams. He was only quiet for Everton when he did not play the first season. Moyes said we had too many short players so were too susceptible to set pieces thus preferred Lescott at LB. As soon as he played the next season he was one of our best.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: stirlingblue on December 12, 2014, 03:14:13 PM
I missed this last night to go to my work's Christmas party, will anywhere have extended highlights or the full game?

I'd like to see how the young lads did.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: brap2 on December 12, 2014, 03:16:49 PM
Ledson - very good in terms of possession - passed it well, spread it well a few times. Lacked a little bit of dynamism and in terms of defensive duties i don't think I saw him make  tackle once, so there are obvious gaps...but for a 17 year old to play with that level of maturity, i think he will make an excellent no. 4.

Garbutt - would have no problem with garbutt as sub LB, not ready to take over from Baines, but ready to be next year's cup-LB.

Browning - clearly a CB in terms of his hard defensive duties, not a RB by any stretch of the imagination, as he just doesn't have the quality on the ball.

Dowell - seen him few times now and i think the lad is a ball player. If he fills out a bit between now and 21 he will be a really good little player.

McAleny - more an athlete than a footballer in my opinion. Not bad at running with the ball fast, but lacks awareness and doesn't seem confident playing passes, would rather hold onto it and shoot or wait til a short pass is on than try and thread one or pass in a slightly-tight situation.

Kone - thought he was a real positive from last night, looked dangerous and showed some exemplary hold-up play. Made up for him.

Robles - let himself down big time with that goal. looked like 5 a side goalkeeping that.

Long - didn't see enough of him, but for me he looks like a Shane Long / Kevin Doyle type striker, work hard, run the channels. Looks like quite a good athlete too.

Jones - didn't see enough of him.

Atsu - poor bastard. looked really bright, think he would have caused them some problems. It really doesn't look like it will work out any time soon for the lad.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Paddockoldie on December 12, 2014, 03:19:57 PM
It was disappointing to lose but a good work out for the young lads. Garbutt did well but maybe copying Baines a bit?? McAleny had good touches but final pass wanting.. good prospect though. Thought Dowell did ok when he got the ball.
Thought Kone was great with good hold up play and he actually wanted to score... nice for him to be back.

As for Robles.....mmmmmm, really.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Alanvideo on December 12, 2014, 03:22:56 PM
My only real other takeaway from that dreadfully boring, rain-soaked fixture is that Kone looked much more spry than I expected.
..........dreadfully boring ? it was anything but boring - don't you like footie ?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: stirlingblue on December 12, 2014, 03:35:53 PM

Long - didn't see enough of him, but for me he looks like a Shane Long / Kevin Doyle type striker, work hard, run the channels. Looks like quite a good athlete too.


Lets sell him for £12million...
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Alex6691 on December 12, 2014, 03:46:51 PM
Fuck me, I'm EXACTLY 6 years, 11 months and 6 days older than Baines!

Makes me sad he's 30. Can we not somehow take him back to 25?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: blue slug on December 12, 2014, 04:05:58 PM
I'm exactly 8 years 11 months older than baines
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: april on December 12, 2014, 04:26:19 PM
Makes me sad he's 30. Can we not somehow take him back to 25?
I think he's the type to carry on well into his 30s. He's small, lean, fit. Another 5 years easily.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Alex6691 on December 12, 2014, 04:43:57 PM
I'm exactly 8 years and 17 days younger than Baines  :P :P
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 12, 2014, 06:04:59 PM
..........dreadfully boring ? it was anything but boring - don't you like footie ?

I was in a damned bad mood all day (makes sense, as I have a killer migraine today), perhaps that explains it.  Everything got on my nerves.  I did think the field conditions and the odd lineup/formation made the action sloppy.

Looking forward to Monday now.  About time we went out and smashed somebody, QPR seems a logical candidate.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: cjohno100 on December 12, 2014, 06:48:20 PM
didnt realise macaleny was older than lukaku, which being honest he doesnt look like  he will make the grade as a prem striker , james vaughan was as good if not better at a younger age, i know hes had injuries and if he was 18 or so then i would say hes got time to improve,  he should be further ahead of what he is now, maybe im being over critical of him.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 12, 2014, 06:58:05 PM
It was disappointing to lose but a good work out for the young lads. Garbutt did well but maybe copying Baines a bit?? McAleny had good touches but final pass wanting.. good prospect though. Thought Dowell did ok when he got the ball.
Thought Kone was great with good hold up play and he actually wanted to score... nice for him to be back.

As for Robles.....mmmmmm, really.

You saying this is a negative?!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Toddacelli on December 12, 2014, 06:58:13 PM
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Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Gash on December 12, 2014, 07:02:03 PM
Could do with a bigger picture, the people on the ISS can't quite see it. ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Toddacelli on December 12, 2014, 07:08:13 PM
I am proper pmsl at that comment!

As soon as I saw it myself I thought - "Right - who's going to say it first?"

Smart money was on you Gash!

(now where's the fucking 'Post' button gone?...        ah it's over there on the screen of the person sitting in the next office)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Gash on December 12, 2014, 07:55:29 PM
I am proper pmsl at that comment!

As soon as I saw it myself I thought - "Right - who's going to say it first?"

Smart money was on you Gash!

(now where's the fucking 'Post' button gone?...        ah it's over there on the screen of the person sitting in the next office)

I've just had to go over to the car park to like and quote this.
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Silas on December 12, 2014, 07:57:42 PM
I was otherwise engaged last night. Were we any good? (fuck reading 32 pages)
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 08:00:31 PM
I was otherwise engaged last night. Were we any good? (fuck reading 32 pages)
Not overly

Kone shown some decent touches and looked quite sharp
Garbutt is the best left back to ever play the game
Atsu wasnt feeling the rain so pulled his hammy
Joel did the best "honest lads im shit..... look" impersonation

In general the kids did ok
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Silas on December 12, 2014, 08:03:07 PM
Not overly

Kone shown some decent touches and looked quite sharp
Garbutt is the best left back to ever play the game
Atsu wasnt feeling the rain so pulled his hammy
Joel did the best "honest lads im shit..... look" impersonation

In general the kids did ok

Cheers Jim so pretty much as expected. My son is mates with Kieran Dowell, how did he get on?
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 12, 2014, 08:05:23 PM
Cheers Jim so pretty much as expected. My son is mates with Kieran Dowell, how did he get on?
Neat, Tidy, decent touch, Lightweight. I wasnt overly fussed but the majority would say he done ok. Plenty to work with thats for sure
Title: Re: Everton v Krasnodar
Post by: Gash on December 12, 2014, 08:15:14 PM
Cheers Jim so pretty much as expected. My son is mates with Kieran Dowell, how did he get on?

Better than Osman, apparently.