No these players have been part of our very successful defence this season. You'd think they'd spent the season conceding goals and shitting in everyone's kettles the way people on here talk about them. I'm not talking about a 6 game competition where you only play 3 sides of similar quality
Joel, Williams and Mori have all been part of our success this season. That doesn't mean we shouldn't sign better/competition but it probably does mean claims that they are shit are wide of the mark and comments like "I hate him" a little odd
Well, saying that you hate a player who tries his best is a little odd, whether they're any good or not.
And I certainly don't sign up to the whole good-shit spectrum stuff at all. You can't reduce a player's ability to just one number representing his quality.
The way I see it (and I'm probably wrong) is that Williams and Mori are quite dependable up to a point. But if you put pressure on them beyond that point, they crumble. Like Mori against Spurs, we know his passing ability is virtually non-existent, which is normally not a massive deal, except when the opposition targets it.
So it is quite possible that we'd be better off overall with defenders who aren't even as dependable against (for want of a better word) "lesser" teams but their performance degrades less dramatically against tough opposition.