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April 16, 2018, 03:10:36 AM
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Well great then Mayor Farnum! So despite your in-depth assessment based on limited viewing in Everton sides managed by terrible managers, Let's bum them off on loan and buy more Schneiderlins and finish 7th at best for the next ten years because you don't rate them on limited viewing.

Afterall, there's no way anyone above the age of 16 can develop into a good player.

I think far too much emphasis is placed upon producing our own talent. It has brought the team very little success over a very long period. That Man U example is forever being held up yet it was over twenty years ago and nothing similar has happened since.

We like to pat ourselves on the back and parade teams of under twelves at half time carrying trophies nearly as big as them but we have nothing at first team level to show for all our faith in our youth set up.

My biggest criticism of Everton is that we have never had a ruthless streak; we've had an obsession with being seen to do the right thing with zero reward. I would swap our attitude to youth with Chelsea's any day if it meant a better match day experience for me every week.

Let's be honest the only thing that separates our home grown players from the rest is that we get on their backs sooner.


April 16, 2018, 03:12:58 AM
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Mayor Farnum


Give me young and hungry over experienced and over paid any day.

If that was true every successful team would be full of poorly paid young players. Just give us quality whatever their age.

April 16, 2018, 03:13:22 AM
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If Lookman farts and it smells ok? Leave it out. He's a good prospect, but thats it.
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April 16, 2018, 03:18:07 AM
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GLewis

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I know he's lost his place recently but Dowell has played a lot this season and Forest haven't improved since Karanka changed the side.

I'm not saying all these are good enough but there's no other Premier League side with that quantity of young talent at their club on the periphery of the first team.

Edit: and a lack of progression under a manager like Sam Allardyce doesn't mean they should be judged on this season.

Iím just wary of us over emphasising how good they are.

Thereís a very good chance that the majority are good Championship players. If thatís the case then that would be more than enough to win the u23 league.

Iíd like to see them with a manager committed to playing younger players as that would be a fair litmus test.

April 16, 2018, 03:19:49 AM
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Iím just wary of us over emphasising how good they are.

Thereís a very good chance that the majority are good Championship players. If thatís the case then that would be more than enough to win the u23 league.

Iíd like to see them with a manager committed to playing younger players as that would be a fair litmus test.

Pretty much what I'm trying to say but that's not going to happen unless we get a manager who'll invest in them.
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April 16, 2018, 06:43:48 AM
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Dr. Sponge


Lookman good. Bolasie bad.


April 16, 2018, 06:47:23 AM
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Let's face it, they're both crappy finishers, but Lookman has time on his side. I hope he comes back and develops more.
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April 16, 2018, 09:10:42 AM
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Bolasie is being unfairly treated. He is just back from a long term injury. He will be much much better next season.

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April 16, 2018, 06:06:45 PM
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I have a hard time understanding the argument that Lookman clearly has a role to play on a damned good, exciting Leipzig side - but not Everton.
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April 17, 2018, 01:39:31 AM
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Let's face it, they're both crappy finishers, but Lookman has time on his side. I hope he comes back and develops more.

Is Lookman a crappy finisher? Sample size is fairly small for Everton, both his goals for Leipzig were excellent finishes, and he had a decent strike rate for Charlton. Not saying his finishing has been amazing but lumping him in with Bolasie, who has failed to regularly score goals over the entirety of his career, seems unduly harsh. (I realize you make the point that Lookman has time on his side, but that does not really address my point.)

April 17, 2018, 01:42:09 AM
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If Lookman farts and it smells ok? Leave it out. He's a good prospect, but thats it.

Not what Leipzig seems to think given he is playing regularly for them, and they are fifth in the Bundesliga.

April 17, 2018, 01:47:18 AM
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Not what Leipzig seems to think given he is playing regularly for them, and they are fifth in the Bundesliga.

How many minutes has he played for then since signing?

Edit: I've just found out.

He's never completed 90 mins (as far as I can see).
He's started 3, come off the bench in 4 (usually last 15 mins).

Out of possible 990 mins he's played 270 minutes.

I'm not sure 'regularly' quite fits. 'Occasionally' might be more accurate.

He's not really playing any more for them than he was for us before he left.
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April 17, 2018, 01:49:16 AM
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Lookman has made 7 appearances, 3 starts for rbl scored 2 goals

April 17, 2018, 01:57:56 AM
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How many minutes has he played for then since signing?

270. More than he got here but still not a lot in 2 1/2 months.

April 17, 2018, 02:00:39 AM
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Duncs_a_legend

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270. More than he got here but still not a lot in 2 1/2 months.

From November to January 5th (last game he played for us) he actually played in more games and scored the same amount of goals for us.

Was out the team in the few weeks before he made the transfer like, so I suppose he could still have ended getting more at RB. Never know if he would have worked his way back in.
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