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Title: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 26, 2017, 08:22:38 PM
Saturday 1st April 12.30pm

So thought id make this as im wondering how you guys would set up now Coleman is out...

I would have thought we would be a 3 at the back if he was ok, but would you play Holgate further forward and still keep the 3 at the back??

And will Morgan be back? If not - well its not the right game for Barry but bloody McCarthy is injured now as well....

If we had a full strength team id be much more confident, seems i say that every time the derby comes round though.

Also with it being april fools day, we will probably win, but the FA will chime in and say it doesnt count 'April fools Everton' :(

Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pjk on March 26, 2017, 08:33:15 PM
It's the dreaded Derby. :)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluebridge on March 26, 2017, 08:37:44 PM
Saturday 1st April 12.30pm

So thought id make this as im wondering how you guys would set up now Coleman is out...

I would have thought we would be a 3 at the back if he was ok, but would you play Holgate further forward and still keep the 3 at the back??

And will Morgan be back? If not - well its not the right game for Barry but bloody McCarthy is injured now as well....

If we had a full strength team id be much more confident, seems i say that every time the derby comes round though.

Also with it being april fools day, we will probably win, but the FA will chime in and say it doesnt count 'April fools Everton' :(


Doesn't count after 12pm.

I think it all depends on Schneiderlin being fit tbh. If he is i'd go with a three at the back with holgate in the three and Lennon taking Colemans place. If not, flat back four with Holgate going rightback.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on March 26, 2017, 08:38:47 PM
I know people want us to go toe-to-toe with them, and not be meek and passive, but the teams that get results at Anfield tend to sit back, and hit them on the break. Pretty much everybody that's gone there to play them has come off second best. Holgate will have to play right back, and I wouldn't feel massively comfortable going with Jags-Williams-Mori as a back three, so I'd go for a back 4.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Tinga on March 26, 2017, 08:39:59 PM
May as well just give them the three points, saves a lot of pain for our fans.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on March 26, 2017, 08:49:28 PM
                         Robles


Holgate      Williams   Jagielka     Baines


        Davies         Barry      Gana
 

               Barkley         Mirallas
 
                        Lukaku
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 26, 2017, 09:02:27 PM
I know people want us to go toe-to-toe with them, and not be meek and passive, but the teams that get results at Anfield tend to sit back, and hit them on the break. Pretty much everybody that's gone there to play them has come off second best. Holgate will have to play right back, and I wouldn't feel massively comfortable going with Jags-Williams-Mori as a back three, so I'd go for a back 4.

Id like to see us play the way we did against Wolfsburg away. I know different manager and all that, but i think that would be perfect against these. We have the players to kill them on a counter.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pjk on March 26, 2017, 09:03:48 PM
                         Robles


Holgate      Williams   Jagielka     Baines


        Davies         Barry      Gana
 

               Barkley         Mirallas
 
                        Lukaku




Despite the absentees, that's not a bad starting eleven. Shows the squad is improving. :)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on March 26, 2017, 09:04:57 PM
                         Robles


Holgate      Williams   Jagielka     Baines


        Davies         Barry      Gana
 

               Barkley         Mirallas
 
                        Lukaku

If Schneiderlin is still out, then this has to be the team.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Thornton_19 on March 26, 2017, 09:28:15 PM
I could see is going 3 at the back and calling up Kenny or Pennington.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on March 26, 2017, 09:30:51 PM
Their entire gameplay is based on getting runners in behind, I hope we keep a deep backline as we don't have the pace to track their runners otherwise
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Big Nev on March 26, 2017, 09:43:07 PM
Having seen all the Full Kit Wankers in town yesterday for the Friendly legends game....we have just got to win this!!!!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on March 26, 2017, 09:54:21 PM
Who's the ref ?  Time we beat them with the help of a dodgy pen.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on March 26, 2017, 10:36:40 PM
Who's the ref ?  Time we beat them with the help of a dodgy pen.

I'm not sure Big Dunc is allowed to coach and ref.

It might be seen as a conflict of interest.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 26, 2017, 10:51:22 PM
                         Robles


Holgate      Williams   Jagielka     Baines


        Davies         Barry      Gana
 

               Barkley         Mirallas
 
                        Lukaku

I'd put in Calvert-Lewin for Mirallas.  Like Super Kev better as a sub, and also worry about him getting carded early if he starts.

One could also conceivably start Lennon up front, since he tracks back so well.

No way we can play a back three with both Jags and Williams, even if we move Lennon to RB.  You'd need to also bench Williams for Mori, which would be ballsy as fuck.  And probably stupid.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on March 26, 2017, 10:52:53 PM
I'd put in Calvert-Lewin for Mirallas.  Like Super Kev better as a sub, and also worry about him getting carded early if he starts.

One could also conceivably start Lennon up front, since he tracks back so well.

No way we can play a back three with both Jags and Williams, even if we move Lennon to RB.  You'd need to also bench Williams for Mori, which would be ballsy as fuck.  And probably stupid.

3 at the back with Lennon as wing back may also be an option. Maybe not for this game, but perhaps against lesser teams.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on March 26, 2017, 11:20:57 PM
3 at the back with Lennon as wing back may also be an option. Maybe not for this game, but perhaps against lesser teams.
..............can't think of a lesser team than the shite.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 26, 2017, 11:27:18 PM
I'd put in Calvert-Lewin for Mirallas.  Like Super Kev better as a sub, and also worry about him getting carded early if he starts.

One could also conceivably start Lennon up front, since he tracks back so well.

No way we can play a back three with both Jags and Williams, even if we move Lennon to RB.  You'd need to also bench Williams for Mori, which would be ballsy as fuck.  And probably stupid.

Wut... ???
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Brownie20 on March 27, 2017, 12:16:34 AM
I'd put in Calvert-Lewin for Mirallas.  Like Super Kev better as a sub, and also worry about him getting carded early if he starts.

One could also conceivably start Lennon up front, since he tracks back so well.

No way we can play a back three with both Jags and Williams, even if we move Lennon to RB.  You'd need to also bench Williams for Mori, which would be ballsy as fuck.  And probably stupid.

Lennon's going to be knackered running back to RB after being used as a striker at the same time. It's a bold move. Might just work. 😜
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 27, 2017, 12:18:03 AM
Lennon's going to be knackered running back to RB after being used as a striker at the same time. It's a bold move. Might just work. 😜

Well, we know what face he'll make when we give him the assignment...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: scottkearns42 on March 27, 2017, 12:39:53 AM
Bare with me...

                     Robles

        Holgate Jags Williams

Davies.                               Baines
             Schneid Gueye

                     Barkley

              Lukaku Lookman


I don't want Funes Mori anywhere near a derby, the hot-headed calamity. I think Davies is versatile and he would do well in that position, as well as shuffling in to make the extra man in midfield when needed.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: BlueForYou on March 27, 2017, 12:52:51 AM
 1) Robles
 2) Holgate
 3) Baines
 4) Schneiderlin/Barry
 5) Williams
 6) Jagielka
 7) Davies
 8) Gueye
 9) Lukaku
10) Barkley
11) Calvert-Lewin/Lookman

1-0 win (Barkley)
 
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 27, 2017, 01:04:28 AM
Robles
Holgate Jagielka Williams Baines
Schneiderlin
Mirallas Gueye Davies Barkley
Lukaku
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 27, 2017, 01:08:05 AM
Robles
Holgate Jagielka Williams Baines
Schneiderlin
Mirallas Gueye Davies Barkley
Lukaku

Hoping its this tbh
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on March 27, 2017, 01:17:34 AM
Let them have most of the ball, defend deep and keep it solid and plan to hit them on the counter

They want us to go at them all guns blazing and for Lallana, Mane and Firmino to nick the ball off us 20 yards from our own goal

Please please please don't play into their hands. I want to see hardly any of the ball at the feet of our defenders. It almost needs to be the total anti-Martinez performance

Counter attack is how we will win this

Coleman is a massive miss for us here as Ideally I think this would suit a 3-5-2 formation but I don't think we have anyone who could come close to doing the job that Seamus does
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Juanito on March 27, 2017, 01:30:39 AM
4-3-3 counter attack

            Robles

Holgate  Williams  Jags  Baines

      Davies Schiederlin Gueye

 Barkley      Lukaku     Mirallas
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on March 27, 2017, 01:44:04 AM
If Schneiderlin isn't fit...

GK: Robles
RB: Holgate
RCB: Jagielka
LCB: Williams
LB: Baines
DM: Gana
DM: Davies
AMR: Barkley
AML: Calvert-Lewin
SS: Valencia/Mirallas/Lookman
CF: Lukaku

I don't think the pace and physicality of this match suit Barry. Davies might be a bit lacking positionally but his athleticism, ability to get out of tight situations, and knack for winning fouls will be of more use to us than Barry's passing (which isn't all that good against aggressive presses) and positional nous. I like this team because we can bypass their press entirely. Lukaku, Calvert-Lewin, and Barkley are strong targets for long passes (I especially like Calvert-Lewin matching up against a full back) and one of Valencia/Mirallas/Lookman can look to pick up the scraps and get us up the pitch. That line-up looks a bit thin defensively but when you consider the shifts that Barkley/Valencia/Calvert-Lewin have been putting in without the ball, I think it's manageable.

Schneiderlin makes everything better though.

Really looking forward to seeing how Davies performs in this one. He's exactly the sort of snide, tenacious player that should thrive in this sort of match, not to mention that he gets the importance of the occasion. An extra injection of local talent might be exactly what we need to actually win one of these. Or I hope it is, at least.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on March 27, 2017, 01:57:19 AM
Oh ffs.

Told the bird I'll go carpet shopping with her totally forgetting this was on.

Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 27, 2017, 03:16:06 AM
I'd like us to turn up for once, the team talk speaks for itself, do it for Seamus, get stuck in, it's only Liverpool ffs, nothing to be scared of, they will press from the off, so fucking what, let them press, just stay calm and take our chances, their defence is shite

Now is that to much to ask
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 27, 2017, 03:18:13 AM
Anyone seen that tweet of Daniel sturridge with seamus Coleman broken leg for arms?

I try my best not to hate them but I fucking despise the horrible, classless, Clueless, deluded gobshites

I really really really hope we fucking do them
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 27, 2017, 03:25:40 AM
Anyone seen that tweet of Daniel sturridge with seamus Coleman broken leg for arms?

I try my best not to hate them but I fucking despise the horrible, classless, Clueless, deluded gobshites

I really really really hope we fucking do them

Yep. they disgust me. Every single one of them. fucking do them Everton come on....
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on March 27, 2017, 03:34:44 AM
Earlier today, I saw one of them say, on a national newspaper site, that blues were glad Heysel happened. Genuinely said it as part of a serious point he was trying to make.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 27, 2017, 03:36:14 AM
Earlier today, I saw one of them say, on a national newspaper site, that blues were glad Heysel happened. Genuinely said it as part of a serious point he was trying to make.
Absolutely fried my brain reading this
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on March 27, 2017, 03:45:34 AM
Absolutely fried my brain reading this

This is the comment :

Quote
Nevertonians enjoyed the Heysel disaster I reckon. More chance to pile on abuse over LFC. The culture IN ENGLISH FOOTBALL was rife at the time. MU had hooliganism issues in the FA cup, Neverton(cough John Barnes cough) and Chelsea and WHU had their racism issues.

And about John Barnes, although we can't be excused for some of the racism associated with us at that time, another blue pointed out that Barnes wrote in his autobiography how there were bananas littered over the pitch when he played at Anfield for Watford, and how a lot of RS fans threatened to burn their season tickets when it was rumoured they were buying him.

Obviously two wrongs don't make a right, but the sheer hypocrisy, even for them, beggars belief.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bally on March 27, 2017, 03:48:31 AM
Anyone seen that tweet of Daniel sturridge with seamus Coleman broken leg for arms?

I try my best not to hate them but I fucking despise the horrible, classless, Clueless, deluded gobshites

I really really really hope we fucking do them
The sad thing is mate it was within 20 minutes of it happening that appeared, but it shows the gulf in class between supporters
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bally on March 27, 2017, 03:49:09 AM
Earlier today, I saw one of them say, on a national newspaper site, that blues were glad Heysel happened. Genuinely said it as part of a serious point he was trying to make.
Link please I need to speak to this person
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 27, 2017, 03:49:15 AM
Neverton tho
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 27, 2017, 03:50:28 AM
The sad thing is mate it was within 20 minutes of it happening that appeared, but it shows the gulf in class between supporters
It's shocking first, embarrassing second and it shows them up for what they are..... I appreciate it maybe a minority
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bally on March 27, 2017, 03:50:37 AM
This is the comment :

And about John Barnes, although we can't be excused for some of the racism associated with us at that time, another blue pointed out that Barnes wrote in his autobiography how there were bananas littered over the pitch when he played at Anfield for Watford, and how a lot of RS fans threatened to burn their season tickets when it was rumoured they were buying him.

Obviously two wrongs don't make a right, but the sheer hypocrisy, even for them, beggars belief.
Yeah I was about to say it's funny how they never mention all the bananas lashed at him V Watford at anfield
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on March 27, 2017, 03:52:14 AM
Link please I need to speak to this person

About halfway down the comments section, frank DSouza - https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/mar/26/premier-league-fans-verdicts-run-in-arsenal-manchester-city
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on March 27, 2017, 04:41:58 AM
Anyone seen that tweet of Daniel sturridge with seamus Coleman broken leg for arms?

I try my best not to hate them but I fucking despise the horrible, classless, Clueless, deluded gobshites

I really really really hope we fucking do them

What's that about then? Not on twitter thankfully.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 27, 2017, 04:43:45 AM
What's that about then? Not on twitter thankfully.
I'm not gonna post it but imagine a still of sturridge celebrating but his arms replaced by Colemans broken leg

Hilarious banter apparently
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 27, 2017, 04:44:48 AM
What's that about then? Not on twitter thankfully.

Incase people dont wana see the leg break

Spoiler: show
https://twitter.com/1878carter/status/845578950797639684
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on March 27, 2017, 04:47:34 AM
Incase people dont wana see the leg break

Spoiler: show
https://twitter.com/1878carter/status/845578950797639684


Now I am really glad I'm not on twitter.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bally on March 27, 2017, 04:50:44 AM
Fuck off signing up to reply, he's a trolling cunt, I've reported the post, fucking cheeky cunt, I love the way they dismiss the fact we didn't get the chance to win anything in Europe during that period because of the ban
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Confucius on March 27, 2017, 10:55:21 AM
We have no pace at the back. They all about pace up front. We in trouble in that regard.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TSGun on March 27, 2017, 12:31:05 PM
Really looking forward to this one.

Yes we'll be up against it for the most part but without wanting to invoke the questionable spirits of a fate tempted we're not without a live chance. It's a great test of character, something we've shown massive improvement in this season.

Nervous yet confident.

Incase people dont wana see the leg break

Spoiler: show
https://twitter.com/1878carter/status/845578950797639684

Yeah just a tad tasteless.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 27, 2017, 01:52:38 PM
I'm quietly confident, don't know why, ill be shitting it come Saturday mornin
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on March 27, 2017, 02:04:38 PM
We have no pace at the back. They all about pace up front. We in trouble in that regard.

Yeah I really don't want to see any passes across our defence at all

I'm gonna be fuming if we just play into their hands like when Spurs went there

Or like when we went to Spurs for that matter!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on March 27, 2017, 03:55:09 PM
We have no pace at the back. They all about pace up front. We in trouble in that regard.

I have visions of Williams frantically back pedalling and Jags spinning around as the ball gets flicked past him, again, by one of that mobile front four of theirs.

I think I'll watch this from behind the sofa.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: School of Science on March 27, 2017, 06:28:47 PM
I'll be fuming if Henderson plays for them another cunt not fit for his country. What happened to the ruling if your not fit for your country you can't play the next game for your club. It seems the reverse is true for Everton, if your not fit to play for your club, you must play for your country. Rant over.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Robioto on March 27, 2017, 06:56:51 PM
I was convinced this would be our year at Anfield, but all thie things going on in he past couple of weeks, whether positive or negative (like Coleman, Lukaku contract, BMD), may have rocked the boat...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheTone on March 27, 2017, 07:31:57 PM
we have to beat them sometime, don't we? Lids?




Lids?


Ah ok , another couple of fuck ups from Robles then and of course a penalty for them at some stage, fuck off derbies
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 27, 2017, 07:42:50 PM
Another one of these please


Jags celebration still annoys the fuck out of me, go mental lad, you've just scored the best goal of your career in the last minute of a Derby game at the Kop End
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on March 27, 2017, 07:50:18 PM
Fuck off signing up to reply, he's a trolling cunt, I've reported the post, fucking cheeky cunt, I love the way they dismiss the fact we didn't get the chance to win anything in Europe during that period because of the ban

Exactly.

As if we weren't outraged by atrocities, grieving for those involved and stunned at a genuinely horrible event to occur to other human beings - by the way - it also fucked up the best team we've ever had.

So, glad it happened? Not on any single fucking level at all.

When I say kopites are gobshites - I mean people like this. Give me a million of the full-kit wankers over this human turd. Dispicable.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on March 27, 2017, 07:50:51 PM
These games follow a similar scoreline trend.

If we draw, it's almost always 1-1.

If we win, it's by 1-0 or 2-0. If we lose, we get hammered.

Time to hammer them.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on March 27, 2017, 07:53:35 PM
Come on Everton!


(Am secretly hoping that Koeman has put some of his steel into the backbones of the players and we make a good account of ourselves)


My heart says 1-0 to us
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 27, 2017, 08:44:51 PM
Come on Everton, we know your gonna win
Not like Liverpool sitting in the bin
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on March 27, 2017, 09:24:59 PM
Another one of these please


Jags celebration still annoys the fuck out of me, go mental lad, you've just scored the best goal of your career in the last minute of a Derby game at the Kop End

I love it.

He says when it hit the net he just went into a state of shock and didn't know what to do.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pjk on March 27, 2017, 10:47:37 PM
Anthony Taylor is the referee for the Derby. He's shown the most yellows and reds this season. It could be carnage.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on March 27, 2017, 11:17:47 PM
We are going to fucking batter them .
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on March 27, 2017, 11:19:58 PM
We are going to fucking batter them .


I don't know what could possibly go wrong!

We usually do so well here
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 27, 2017, 11:30:49 PM
It's a sad affair when there's probably as many if not more posters who have never seen us win there than posters who have
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: brap2 on March 27, 2017, 11:50:12 PM
Fucking hell i hate that football club, I really do.

It would be very Everton for us to have our first win in donkeys and it to be the year where our season is already over!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pedrotheblue on March 28, 2017, 02:11:03 AM
Fucking hell i hate that football club, I really do.

It would be very Everton for us to have our first win in donkeys and it to be the year where our season is already over!

Erm, if and it's a big if, if we actually beat them we're 3 points off 4th...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Paddockoldie on March 28, 2017, 02:13:32 AM
We can beat these if we sort our heads out.. It's a mind game but I think Koeman's got the personality to address it. I think we also need to play as though Rom isn't there because they will plan to stop him,  so we need to play on that and create chances for goals from elsewhere.. if Rom gets a chance he'll take it but if we put all our efforts in to him that will stifle us ....I'd like to see Lookman given some time but pref off the bench. Hope Morgan is for and I think he will be. Barry is too slow for this one. I think Davies will have a cracker in this game, even score... just a feeling.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Confucius on March 28, 2017, 02:23:59 AM
Disagree. play to Rom and play to his strengths. They don't have the defenders to cope with Rom when Rom is on his game. very few teams do.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: brap2 on March 28, 2017, 02:25:22 AM
Erm, if and it's a big if, if we actually beat them we're 3 points off 4th...

Don't torture yourself bud
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on March 28, 2017, 02:27:46 AM
It's the psychological barrier we have to overcome more than anything. Our players are good enough to win there, no question.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: brap2 on March 28, 2017, 02:28:29 AM
Disagree. play to Rom and play to his strengths. They don't have the defenders to cope with Rom when Rom is on his game. very few teams do.


Any of their back four with a 10 yard head start wouldn't get anywhere near romelu if we put him in behind.

Just a shame we're quite crap at doing that.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bally on March 28, 2017, 02:55:01 AM
Come on Everton, we know your gonna win
Not like Liverpool sitting in the bin
That's just brought me back to being a kid hahaha
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Paddockoldie on March 28, 2017, 03:33:16 AM
Disagree. play to Rom and play to his strengths. They don't have the defenders to cope with Rom when Rom is on his game. very few teams do.

I'm not saying don't try to feed him but don't put all our eggs in one basket. In the 80's we won nothing with Lineker who scored 40.. he left and we won the league again because we started scoring from all over the pitch again.. anyway, for all our sakes I hope you're right and I'm chattin bollocks
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Juanito on March 28, 2017, 03:54:13 AM
We have no pace at the back. They all about pace up front. We in trouble in that regard.





Hopefully not if we sit deep and hit them on the break like other teams have done their.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Alfie Noakes on March 28, 2017, 05:29:16 AM
I'll miss the game because of work so I'm really pissed off but also slightly relieved.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on March 28, 2017, 06:17:38 AM
We are also playing the officials, don't forget.

Guaranteed bookings for a CM (probably Barry) and a CB (probably Jags) putting us on a lovely tightrope of anguish before the first-half is done.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ramjam on March 28, 2017, 06:48:07 AM
               Robles

   Holgate. Williams. Jags

                Schniderlin

Lennon Davies.Gueye Baines

          Barkley.    Lukaku

Compact at the back with Schniderlin protecting the back 3, lots of energy in the midfield engine room and 2 up top who can hold up play, beat a man, can also create and score.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 28, 2017, 08:41:44 AM
               Robles

   Holgate. Williams. Jags

                Schniderlin

Lennon Davies.Gueye Baines

          Barkley.    Lukaku

Compact at the back with Schniderlin protecting the back 3, lots of energy in the midfield engine room and 2 up top who can hold up play, beat a man, can also create and score.

Even with Baines and Schneiderlin (if fit) helping out, that's really asking an awful lot out of Jagielka.  Even 2 years ago Jagielka would have found that a stretch.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ramjam on March 28, 2017, 08:55:43 AM
Even with Baines and Schneiderlin (if fit) helping out, that's really asking an awful lot out of Jagielka.  Even 2 years ago Jagielka would have found that a stretch.

Baines to keep Mane occupied further up the field and tracking back when required
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ramjam on March 28, 2017, 09:06:32 AM
If jags is struggling with the pace we can always call in Funes-Mori for the second half to freshen things up
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluebridge on March 28, 2017, 01:36:13 PM
               Robles

   Holgate. Williams. Jags

                Schniderlin

Lennon Davies.Gueye Baines

          Barkley.    Lukaku

Compact at the back with Schniderlin protecting the back 3, lots of energy in the midfield engine room and 2 up top who can hold up play, beat a man, can also create and score.
If it is 3 at the back then we need Mori in there, in my opinion we'd need a left footer for balance, I think Jags would have a mare on the left.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on March 28, 2017, 03:34:03 PM
Can't remember the last time I felt so unconfident going into a derby.

It's weird because we're in decent form. But losing just feels inevitable.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ramjam on March 28, 2017, 03:46:12 PM
Can't remember the last time I felt so unconfident going into a derby.

It's weird because we're in decent form. But losing just feels inevitable.

I just think it's the Coleman factor
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: GLewis on March 28, 2017, 03:49:23 PM
Can't remember the last time I felt so unconfident going into a derby.

It's weird because we're in decent form. But losing just feels inevitable.

The one in December?

Maybe the one in April last year?

;)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 28, 2017, 03:55:04 PM
They are so strong at home, its hard to see us pick up anything
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 28, 2017, 04:01:31 PM
They are so strong at home, its hard to see us pick up anything

Exactly this

And given the fact our players always bottle it at their place as well
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on March 28, 2017, 04:11:45 PM
We might have had a better chance that ever in recent years had we been able to play Coleman and Schneiderlin but without those two can't see anything but a defeat.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 28, 2017, 04:18:15 PM
               Robles

   Holgate. Williams. Jags

                Schniderlin

Lennon Davies.Gueye Baines

          Barkley.    Lukaku

Compact at the back with Schniderlin protecting the back 3, lots of energy in the midfield engine room and 2 up top who can hold up play, beat a man, can also create and score.

Lennon? No thanks, Mirallas is the better option there
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on March 28, 2017, 04:25:05 PM
I just think it's the Coleman factor

Or more importantly the Schneiderlin factor.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheTone on March 28, 2017, 04:33:02 PM
           Robles  Stekelenburg

 Holgate Jagielka Williams  Mori  Baines

             Gana     Scheiderlin Barry








             Lukaku

                   
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on March 28, 2017, 04:40:08 PM
Lennon? No thanks, Mirallas is the better option there
Not as a right wing back he isn't.

I'd be inclined to use Holegate there with jags on the right and Miri the other side of Williams. Holgate has a bit of pace for the position.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Polledreng on March 28, 2017, 05:57:52 PM
           Robles  Stekelenburg

 Holgate Jagielka Williams  Mori  Baines

             Gana     Scheiderlin Barry








             Lukaku

                   
going for a 1-0 win ?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ramjam on March 28, 2017, 05:59:21 PM
going for a 1-0 win ?

2 goalies are you allowed that these days?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: everton1952 on March 28, 2017, 06:05:02 PM
No, I think he meant we will need two goalies based on recent games there.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: dazfrancis on March 28, 2017, 06:18:33 PM
           Robles  Stekelenburg

 Holgate Jagielka Williams  Mori  Baines

             Gana     Scheiderlin Barry








             STEVE WATSON

                   

Fixed
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on March 28, 2017, 06:59:02 PM
Can't see how we can go three at the back without Coleman to play RWB.

Go 4-3-3

Davies and Barkley infront of gana

Kev and DCL outwide.

That's the only thing I can see working.

Praying we have big Morgs fit
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Shogun on March 28, 2017, 07:02:27 PM
I would just swap Barry for Scneiderlin and Holgate for Coleman.

It completely fucked up our flow when shifted the midfield about at Spurs.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: ally2 on March 28, 2017, 07:16:02 PM
Holegate

Lol
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on March 28, 2017, 07:17:07 PM
I would just swap Barry for Scneiderlin and Holgate for Coleman.

It completely fucked up our flow when shifted the midfield about at Spurs.

I worry about Barry in this type of game
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on March 28, 2017, 07:39:59 PM
Lol

haha typed that on my phone. Didn't even notice that with me specs off.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 28, 2017, 07:43:33 PM
Barry shouldn't start
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TSGun on March 28, 2017, 07:46:56 PM
Although not a golden rule but if warranted I've always liked to see as many homegrown players in the team when facing a derby match.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pjk on March 28, 2017, 08:21:30 PM
We're still top of the league for the year 2017. The next 3 games is where we show how far we have come since new year's day. I think we are being overly critical on the back of some very good performances, especially at home. Keep the faith. :)




https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/news/best-in-2017-how-the-premier-league-table-would-look-if-the-season-had-started-on-new-years-day/ar-BByWKg0?li=BBoPWjQ




Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on March 28, 2017, 08:48:36 PM
It's a sad affair when there's probably as many if not more posters who have never seen us win there than posters who have


Don't worry about it lids. I was sat having a few bevvies with Moshiri at his London gaff last night (nice place, 2-bedroom - even in London! Minted) and he showed me his long-term plan for Everton. I can remember it word for word. It read like this:

Everton Plan
by Farhad Moshiri (aged 61 and 3/4)

Over the next decade turn over the stat that has them winning more derbies than us

If this is achieved, then other success such as league trophies, cup trophies and European trophies will have happened along the way too.

Signed  (in blood)

F.Moshiri
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluebridge on March 28, 2017, 08:48:40 PM
We're still top of the league for the year 2017. The next 3 games is where we show how far we have come since new year's day. I think we are being overly critical on the back of some very good performances, especially at home. Keep the faith. :)




https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/news/best-in-2017-how-the-premier-league-table-would-look-if-the-season-had-started-on-new-years-day/ar-BByWKg0?li=BBoPWjQ





As it stands, that will be how the table will finish next season.     




One can dream
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pjk on March 28, 2017, 09:11:34 PM
As it stands, that will be how the table will finish next season.     




One can dream



We're walking into this as if it's a death sentence. It's a challenge, and it's the type of challenge we have to overcome, if we are ever going to achieve anything. Where's the prediction league? :P
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on March 28, 2017, 09:45:36 PM
Rumours lallana is out for four weeks.

Massive blow for the shite that. He's their best player at the moment.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 28, 2017, 10:04:47 PM
Rumours lallana is out for four weeks.

Massive blow for the shite that. He's their best player at the moment.

No Henderson either, special dispensation football club will probably ask the FA if Gerrard can play
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Paddockoldie on March 28, 2017, 10:13:03 PM
No Henderson either, special dispensation football club will probably ask the FA if Gerrard can play

Doesn't really make a difference with us mate. Do you remember they had their 3rd choice goalie in the semi and we didn't fire a single shot at him.... the weaker they are the worse we play. I think we can beat them but I ain't playing so makes no odds. The battles are in our minds.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on March 28, 2017, 10:18:20 PM
No Henderson either, special dispensation football club will probably ask the FA if Gerrard can play

They seem to think Henderson will play and the Lallana thing is only a rumour, might have been given an extra day off having played in both games. The only certainties are that Coleman and McCarthy are out and Schneiderlin has not trained today either.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Shogun on March 28, 2017, 10:47:22 PM
Rumours lallana is out for four weeks.

Massive blow for the shite that. He's their best player at the moment.

As if any of that matters, we couldn't beat them when they had Brad Jones in goal.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on March 28, 2017, 11:00:41 PM
Wish we'd have go Lallana. Evertonian too by all accounts.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 28, 2017, 11:01:04 PM
Lallalalalalanana injury confirmed

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39422738

Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pjk on March 28, 2017, 11:09:49 PM
I won't wish injuries on anyone, it just get's us a bit closer to evening up the field with our injuries. Lallanas a big miss for them and a bit of a bonus for us.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on March 28, 2017, 11:10:01 PM
I heard the injury is letting him off and that he will be available for our game, it'll just be a few games after which he'll be out.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on March 28, 2017, 11:12:24 PM
It's good news for us. He links play as well as anyone for them so he'll be a big miss.

Still think we'll lose because it's never mattered before what team they put out.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: ally2 on March 29, 2017, 12:07:54 AM
haha typed that on my phone. Didn't even notice that with me specs off.

That had me tickled. If Holegate does start then we're destined for glory.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bally on March 29, 2017, 12:15:10 AM
Rumours lallana is out for four weeks.

Massive blow for the shite that. He's their best player at the moment.
Confirmed now
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 29, 2017, 12:18:40 AM
Mirallas has scored for Belgium
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on March 29, 2017, 12:23:03 AM
Mirallas has scored for Belgium

*Awaits confirmation of inevitable injury*
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on March 29, 2017, 12:28:03 AM
Rumours lallana is out for four weeks.

Massive blow for the shite that. He's their best player at the moment.

What does everyone reckon is the biggest blow ? The shite losing Lallana or us losing Coleman/Schneiderlin ?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on March 29, 2017, 12:40:19 AM
Mirallas has scored for Belgium

Was a penalty, was taken off in 66th minute but don't know if that was tactical or injury ?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Corinthian on March 29, 2017, 12:43:13 AM
What does everyone reckon is the biggest blow ? The shite losing Lallana or us losing Coleman/Schneiderlin ?

We are without Seamus (obviously), we have in all probability lost McCarthy who could have been an option. Schneiderlin is, as far as we know an unlikely starter. So we are well worse off than the RS. I should also add that we are (of course) going to be without Bolasie our most expensive player, but of course that has been the case for fucking months!!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on March 29, 2017, 12:55:06 AM
They may also be without Firmino, didn't train today and dropped from the Brazil line up for tonight's match, has a throat infection which certainly won't get any better flying 11 hours at 35,000 feet tomorrow.

Re Mcarthy /Bolasie , I guess Sturridge/Henderson cancels that one out.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: D15TIN on March 29, 2017, 01:54:51 AM
I think schneiderlin will play

redshite seem to think Lallana is a big blow to them, id have rather they didn't have Mane, apparently now Firmino out which is good, Coleman obviously a huge miss for us if personally go:

Robles

Williams Jagielka Mori

Holgate Davies Gana Schneiderlin Baines

Barkley

Lukaku

if no morgan, bring in Mirallas
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on March 29, 2017, 02:19:28 AM
They may also be without Firmino, didn't train today and dropped from the Brazil line up for tonight's match, has a throat infection which certainly won't get any better flying 11 hours at 35,000 feet.

Bound to happen when you spend half the week with Klopp's unwashed shlong in your mouth.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on March 29, 2017, 02:32:32 AM
Bound to happen when you spend half the week with Klopp's unwashed shlong in your mouth.

If that were true, 99% of Britain's sporting media correspondents would be too sick to work. Shame it's not really...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: D15TIN on March 29, 2017, 03:26:08 AM
Just had a scan over RAWKs thread for the derby, a lot of them not confident Henderson will start as he's hardly trained, Lallana & Sturridge (thank god) definitely out, and Lovren has only began training again this week, they have a thin squad even talking about starting Woodburn, hope to god we get Schneiderlin fit, if we do I think were in with a shot of 3pts here, if we play our own game and dont leave Lukaku isolated like at Spurs away, Barry simply cant start this game.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on March 29, 2017, 04:00:15 AM
Funes Mori has been stretchered off in the Argentina game. Some reports of knee injury.

Our back line is getting a little decimated.

Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Silas on March 29, 2017, 04:05:33 AM
He would likely have been on the bench anyway but that's a worry
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: hill135 on March 29, 2017, 04:07:11 AM
You know what, mother fuck an international break.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Confucius on March 29, 2017, 04:21:28 AM
Funes Mori has been stretchered off in the Argentina game. Some reports of knee injury.

Our back line is getting a little decimated.


Not sure who is sadder about that. us or them?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on March 29, 2017, 04:23:13 AM
Just had a scan over RAWKs thread for the derby, a lot of them not confident Henderson will start as he's hardly trained, Lallana & Sturridge (thank god) definitely out, and Lovren has only began training again this week, they have a thin squad even talking about starting Woodburn, hope to god we get Schneiderlin fit, if we do I think were in with a shot of 3pts here, if we play our own game and dont leave Lukaku isolated like at Spurs away, Barry simply cant start this game.

went for a look over there, saw a post about Mori, thought they made it up, pop back here..............fooking Marvellous   Won't be a back 3 now

just read , prior to match he suffers from altitude problems and will be given Viagra, must have snapped his cock......................... ........seriously though could not happen at a worse time
was it a challenge/tackle or innoxious ?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on March 29, 2017, 04:33:09 AM
Robles
Holgate
Baines
Jagielka
Williams
Davies
Barry
Gueye
Barkley
Lukaku
Mirallas

Steklenberg
Lennon
Lookman
Valencia
Calvert-Lewin

And a couple of the defenders from the u23s for the bench as I can't think of anyone else we've got who's fit?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on March 29, 2017, 04:53:10 AM
Pennington might get a look in.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Thornton_19 on March 29, 2017, 05:00:19 AM
Jagielka Williams is so fucking slow. Have to make that a back 3 with Holgate and play Lennon RWB just to get some pace there.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 29, 2017, 05:06:29 AM
oh for the love of heavenly fuck, half our players get blacklisted internationally and the other half die??

SCREW THESE BREAKS ALREADY
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on March 29, 2017, 05:30:01 AM
Lennon will play in place of Coleman I reckon.

                    Robles

Jagielka   -   Holgate   -  Williams

Lennon - Gueye - Morgan - Davies - Baines

               Barkley - Lukaku

If Morgan doesnt make it Barry, sadly.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ramjam on March 29, 2017, 05:55:17 AM
Southgate has chipped in saying Barkley should start on the bench
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Tony Clifton on March 29, 2017, 06:49:34 AM
Southgate has chipped in saying Barkley should start on the bench

Barkley is probably fatigued after listening to that dreary fucker for the best part of two weeks. 

Anyone know if Valencia survived earlier?  Hasn't been locked up for dodging child maintenence has he? 
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ramjam on March 29, 2017, 07:07:17 AM
Barkley is probably fatigued after listening to that dreary fucker for the best part of two weeks. 

Anyone know if Valencia survived earlier?  Hasn't been locked up for dodging child maintenence has he?

Don't know about that Tony, but maybe locked up for falsifying his birth certificate
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Buck76 on March 29, 2017, 07:36:26 AM
Lennon will play in place of Coleman I reckon.

                    Robles

   Holgate   -  Williams - Jags - Baines

          Gueye - Barry - Davies

       Barkley                    Mirralas
   
                     Lukaku

Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Tony Clifton on March 29, 2017, 07:55:26 AM
Don't know about that Tony, but maybe locked up for falsifying his birth certificate

Not arsed if he's 102 (ninety-twelve!) mate, very tidy player IMO, could play a big part on Saturday.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Tony Clifton on March 29, 2017, 07:57:17 AM
Lennon will play in place of Coleman I reckon.

                    Robles

   Holgate   -  Williams - Jags - Baines

          Gueye - Barry - Davies

       Barkley                    Mirralas
   
                     Lukaku



Aaron Lennon: The Invisible Man? ;)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Buck76 on March 29, 2017, 11:17:21 AM
Aaron Lennon: The Invisible Man? ;)

Yes lol, was copying someone's lineup trying to work out how we'll line up on Sat with all these injuries.. & Lennon has been missing for a while and not really been involved... we need to go for it in the next two games, not a repeat of Spurs!!!!! I'd rather we failed going for it blooding the kids than backs to the wall with the OAP's looking for draws...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Polledreng on March 29, 2017, 11:53:56 AM
Southgate has chipped in saying Barkley should start on the bench
and stay there
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Paddockoldie on March 29, 2017, 01:35:05 PM
Please, please... not Lennon. That's all I can ask. He's shit in his own position so don't play him in another... not in a derby!!!!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 29, 2017, 02:49:57 PM
My confidence has gone, I'm a wreck already and it's only Wednesday, get a grip ffs!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on March 29, 2017, 02:59:38 PM
The fixtures have been unkind to us  .Two difficult aways in 4 days. Bound to be more collateral damage from the derby which will weaken us at Man U.
Both Man U and Liverpool have two home games and the shite get an extra day to recover.
Title: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ramjam on March 29, 2017, 02:59:58 PM
My confidence has gone, I'm a wreck already and it's only Wednesday, get a grip ffs!

Macca, they are missing Lallana, Henderson, Sewerage, and that Brazilian fanny, we'll be ok
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 29, 2017, 03:13:27 PM
Macca, they are missing Lallana, Henderson, Sewerage, and that Brazilian fanny, we'll be ok

It matters not, they still have dark forces and satan himself on their side
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on March 29, 2017, 03:16:43 PM
Macca, they are missing Lallana, Henderson, Sewerage, and that Brazilian fanny, we'll be ok

That Brazilian Fanny (Firmino?) played last night and scored, on his way back straight after the match in a private jet with Coutinho, he will play. Lukaku and Mirralas on their way back from Sochi this morning on easyJet.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pjk on March 29, 2017, 03:46:33 PM
Half a dozen posters mentioned Barry was too slow to play in the Derby, yet; he was man of the match a few weeks ago and virtually all agreed, he still had plenty left in the tank and had looked after himself. Most accepted he was still more than able to do a job. Cue a shit first half against Spurs and he's finished. If he gets enough protection from the younger players around him, it shouldn't be a problem. It's not ideal, but then what else have we got. I've never had this irrational fear of our nearest and dearest.
 
No wonder we never beat them. Our players can hear the fear seeping from their own fans. Koeman's got the right idea for taking them on. He doesn’t subscribe to the psychological irrational fears of playing them like our own supporters do, we're a better team by quite some way than say Swansea, who beat them and Burnley who outplayed them a few weeks ago.

I'm going for an away win for the 18th or 19th time in a row. As Koeman says, "their run and consequently ours, has to end sometime". :)


Personally I'm going to enjoy the prospect of beating them for the rest of the week. If It doesn't happen? Then I'll be disappointed for a while come 2pm on Saturday.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on March 29, 2017, 04:07:35 PM
The continuous drip drip of bad news in the lead up to this game could either galvanise the lads or send them under.

It's a head and heart dilemma and it's not looking favourable. Best thing we can hope for is to turn it into a tight scrappy game and grow in confidence as it goes on.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 29, 2017, 04:40:20 PM
DO IT FOR SEAMUS!!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on March 29, 2017, 04:45:58 PM
They are all saying do it for Ronnie !
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pjk on March 29, 2017, 06:25:11 PM
Idrissa Gana Gueye has recently joined twitter if anyone wants to follow him. Just over 2,000 followers ATM. Should think that will be 200-300 K in no time. :)


https://twitter.com/IGanaGueye
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on March 29, 2017, 06:33:42 PM
They are all saying do it for Ronnie !

They kept doing it for Ronnie while he was alive. No point doing it for him now he's gone. He hasn't a clue now. It's Seamus' turn.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on March 29, 2017, 06:36:50 PM
Anyone know if Schneiderlin has been training this week ? There was some speculation that his calf injury was so minor that he could make it for the Derby but if he hasn't been seen training by today I guess that's that.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on March 29, 2017, 06:47:03 PM
Anyone know if Schneiderlin has been training this week ? There was some speculation that his calf injury was so minor that he could make it for the Derby but if he hasn't been seen training by today I guess that's that.

I heard he hasn't trained this week. Someone posted something yesterday about it.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on March 29, 2017, 06:47:37 PM
Anyone know if Schneiderlin has been training this week ? There was some speculation that his calf injury was so minor that he could make it for the Derby but if he hasn't been seen training by today I guess that's that.

If we don't get anything from these next two games it's season over so may as well go for it and risk it all. A half fit Scheiderlin has about as much mobility as a fully fit Gareth Barry so I'd be inclined to give it a go, as long as he can walk that is.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on March 29, 2017, 06:55:04 PM
If we don't get anything from these next two games it's season over so may as well go for it and risk it all. A half fit Scheiderlin has about as much mobility as a fully fit Gareth Barry so I'd be inclined to give it a go, as long as he can walk that is.

If we pick up an injury or a red card (very likely) on Saturday , or even both, then we may as well just give Utd. the points and wrap what left of the team in bubble wrap. What's the latest on Pennington and Browning ?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on March 29, 2017, 06:57:31 PM
Hard to make solid at the back but...

                    Robles

   Holgate   -  Williams - Jags - Baines

           Schneiderlin or Barry

             Gueye        Davies

       Lennon                    Barkley
   
                     Lukaku

A half-fit Schneiderlin or Barry just in front of the back four, spoiling their mobility and interchangeable passing and movement.
Gueye and Davies using their energy to drop back to a 3 when we don't have the ball.
When we get possession, find Lennon and Barkley as early as possible and get them to feed Lukaku.

After that, I'm gonna pray to the old gods and the new because I know nothing, John Snow.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluenose 91 on March 29, 2017, 06:59:25 PM
Swerve the Aaron Lennon shouts.  He hasn't played in absolutely ages so to bring him in for this game would be suicide.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 29, 2017, 07:01:16 PM
Swerve the Aaron Lennon shouts.  He hasn't played in absolutely ages so to bring him in for this game would be suicide.

Exactly, plus he's a bit shite as well
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on March 29, 2017, 07:03:45 PM
Exactly, plus he's a bit shite as well

We need someone belting down the right wing against their dodgy left flank defence so to give Barkley and Lukaku more space in the middle.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 29, 2017, 07:05:36 PM
Lennon is behind

Mirallas
Lookman
Calvert Lewin

No way should he or will he play in this
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 29, 2017, 07:06:38 PM
Lookman gets in ahead of DCL and Lennon
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on March 29, 2017, 07:07:51 PM
Lennon is behind

Mirallas
Lookman
Calvert Lewin

No way should he or will he play in this

Forgot all about Lookman! Amended -

                    Robles

   Holgate   -  Williams - Jags - Baines

           Schneiderlin or Barry

             Gueye        Davies

    Lookman                    Barkley
   
                     Lukaku

A half-fit Schneiderlin or Barry just in front of the back four, spoiling their mobility and interchangeable passing and movement.
Gueye and Davies using their energy to drop back to a 3 when we don't have the ball.
When we get possession, find Lookman and Barkley as early as possible and get them to feed Lukaku or shoot if it's on.

After that, I'm gonna pray to the old gods and the new because I know nothing, John Snow.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on March 29, 2017, 07:08:10 PM
Lennon is behind

Mirallas
Lookman
Calvert Lewin

No way should he or will he play in this

Not one of them is an attacking RB.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 29, 2017, 07:09:30 PM
Not one of them is an attacking RB.
Neither is Lennon
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on March 29, 2017, 07:27:40 PM
Forgot all about Lookman! Amended -

                    Robles

   Holgate   -  Williams - Jags - Baines

           Schneiderlin or Barry

             Gueye        Davies

    Lookman                    Barkley
   
                     Lukaku

A half-fit Schneiderlin or Barry just in front of the back four, spoiling their mobility and interchangeable passing and movement.
Gueye and Davies using their energy to drop back to a 3 when we don't have the ball.
When we get possession, find Lookman and Barkley as early as possible and get them to feed Lukaku or shoot if it's on.

After that, I'm gonna pray to the old gods and the new because I know nothing, John Snow.

Think the pace of this game would pass Lookman by.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on March 29, 2017, 07:28:45 PM
Neither is Lennon

Is more capable of performing that role than the others you mention though.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on March 29, 2017, 07:34:37 PM
Think the pace of this game would pass Lookman by.

Has to be Mirallas and not Lookman. A derby at Anfield is no place for an inexperienced kid regardless of potential ability.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 29, 2017, 07:38:23 PM
Mirallas usually has a good game v them too, he fucking hates them.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on March 29, 2017, 07:41:13 PM
Mirallas is a player who has raised his game for the derby. Obviously he can go too far with that, and end up getting a red, but I still remember the first 4-0 at Anfield in Martinez's second season, and Kev was the only player who kept going and could walk off the pitch with his head held high for us. I'd put Ross deeper in midfield with Gana and Tom Davies, and play Kev just off Lukaku on the break, like the Wolfsburg away win a couple of seasons back. Keep Barry on the bench for the last 20 if we need him.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 29, 2017, 07:46:31 PM
Is more capable of performing that role than the others you mention though.
How's about we players in the positions that they are good at, not that they are capable at

Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on March 29, 2017, 08:02:10 PM
I'd be very surprised if Lennon was back in for this. Holgate is the logical choice to replace Coleman

                     Joel

Holgate Jagielka Williams Baines

                Schneiderlin
          Barry  Gueye Davies

              Barkley Lukaku

Something like this I think it will be now, not much width going on but we will be trying to keep things solid so Schneiderlin, Barry and Gueye will be offering lots of protection to that back 4

Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on March 29, 2017, 08:03:58 PM
I'd be very surprised if Lennon was back in for this. Holgate is the logical choice to replace Coleman

                     Joel

Holgate Jagielka Williams Baines

                Schneiderlin
          Barry  Gueye Davies

              Barkley Lukaku

Something like this I think it will be now, not much width going on but we will be trying to keep things solid so Schneiderlin, Barry and Gueye will be offering lots of protection to that back 4



We'd barely get out of our own half with that team/formation.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on March 29, 2017, 08:09:09 PM
We'd barely get out of our own half with that team/formation.

The last thing Liverpool want is for us to sit back cos it means their game plan has gone out the window

They want us to go at them and leave Williams and Jagielka unprotected with 40yards of space to run in behind

Your other option would be Mirallas instead of Barry there and have Barkley, Lukaku and Mirallas as a front 3 with Davies Schneiderlin and Gueye as the central 3 that would give us a better attacking option

If we go for these they will just do what they did to Spurs and Mane will have a field day
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 29, 2017, 08:11:09 PM
Surely it's just Holgate for Coleman

Maybe mirallas for Dcl

Not sure why people want to tinker so much.

Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on March 29, 2017, 08:11:46 PM
The last thing Liverpool want is for us to sit back cos it means their game plan has gone out the window

They want us to go at them and leave Williams and Jagielka unprotected with 40yards of space to run in behind

Your other option would be Mirallas instead of Barry there and have Barkley, Lukaku and Mirallas as a front 3 with Davies Schneiderlin and Gueye as the central 3 that would give us a better attacking option

If we go for these they will just do what they did to Spurs and Mane will have a field day

Makes sense other than Schneiderlin won't be playing.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: AllyBlue14 on March 29, 2017, 08:13:16 PM
A couple of things come to mind for me – firstly, I don’t think Barry is finished, we just need to manage the kind of games he plays in (which, I think, Koeman is trying to do). He doesn’t have the legs for a derby or to play against fast-flowing teams like City – that’s where we need our high energy Gueye-Morgs-Davies axis. But against West Brom, Hull and Burnley etc., we’re the favourites, the opposition doesn’t have as much of the ball and they pack their defence, so we need someone with Barry’s passing range to help unlock them. We can’t account for injuries, though, so with Morgs, McCarthy and Besic injured, it’s either bring in Barry or risk another youngster.

Secondly, I think we need to go into this almost with a siege mentality. There is no way Burnley, Swansea and Hull would have gone in realistically expecting/hoping for 3 points. We all know the RS seem to be big-game merchants, they always seem to pick up their performance for the derby and don’t they have the best head-to-head record against top 6 teams?

We obviously have to play with confidence in our game plan, I’m not saying to go there with the ‘glad to get out alive approach’. But I’d be quite happy for us to avoid going toe-to-toe, yield the majority of possession, frustrate them and hit them on the counter. With our back line potentially lacking in pace, we need to shut them down and give them as little space to work in as possible.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Rhys on March 29, 2017, 09:03:55 PM
Lennon has hardly been used all season and is behind Mirallas, Valencia, DCL and Lookman in recent times for the wide slots so he wont be playing.

Lookman after his first few appearances hasnt made it off the bench for the last few games so he isnt going to be starting. And DCL had some good moments in the last game but drifted in and out heavily similar to Lookman in the games he started which can be expected with their age and inexperience.

It isnt the kind of game or place where you want to have that risk. I think it will be one of mirallas or Valencia in the wide forward role with Barkley and Rom. Mirallas has had some good performances against them, he might want Valencia as an option for someone who can hold the ball well higher up the pitch and relieve some pressure.

I'm happy with either, I'd be a little concerned about Lookman or DCL playing but if he thought they were right I'd be ok to a point but to throw Lennon in after 17 minutes of football since the beginning of January isnt and shouldnt happen.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on March 29, 2017, 09:36:30 PM
There is plenty to get at though . Defensively they are fragile but we need to retain possession in midfield to get the most out of Lukaku and whoever is on the wing . Passion is needed and I would have no worries if he fielded Lookman , Davies and Holgate . Get at them and stay solid in possession and we end the hoodoo .
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 29, 2017, 09:47:34 PM
i recon he will be back?

https://twitter.com/Everton/status/847086194752208897
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: hill135 on March 29, 2017, 10:29:37 PM
I reckon he'll start the game and limp off after 20 mins and miss the rest of the season - in true Everton style
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 29, 2017, 10:33:49 PM
i recon he will be back?

https://twitter.com/Everton/status/847086194752208897

Looks fit to me, and sexy, what?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: GLewis on March 29, 2017, 11:03:32 PM
It'd be a bit annoying for them to put up a "fitness" video of a player who then isn't fit for the weekend.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on March 29, 2017, 11:15:18 PM
It'd be a bit annoying for them to put up a "fitness" video of a player who then isn't fit for the weekend.

but totally Everton    :)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: bluenuck on March 29, 2017, 11:59:36 PM
so Funes Mori is out as well....

Is their any way to get the counsel of Tony Pulis for this game?

I think the good ole 9-1 formation will have to be pulled out for this one.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on March 30, 2017, 12:11:24 AM
It'd be a bit annoying for them to put up a "fitness" video of a player who then isn't fit for the weekend.
Like in the Moyes days where players would have late fitness tests before a game and then not be seen for 6 weeks.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on March 30, 2017, 12:12:11 AM
so Funes Mori is out as well....

Is their any way to get the counsel of Tony Pulis for this game?

I think the good ole 9-1 formation will have to be pulled out for this one.
Which would be possible if we had more than 4 first team defenders left to pick from.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: bornblue88 on March 30, 2017, 12:20:46 AM
I think we have to play kevin in this one, if only for his delivery at corners and set pieces. We'll have jags, williams and lukaku in there so we absolutely must try to work the corners etc as liverpool are poo at defending them. We can also bring DCL on later in the game as he's very tall. The overall plan should be to stay tight and work the ball up the pitch rather than going long a lot as they should mop up loose balls easily. I can see barry playing at least the first half when we'll mostly be absorbing pressure and his experience will be key. I also happen to think lennon would make a right back at least as good as kyle walker, but his lack of game time will probably rule him out of this one with holgate taking up the RB spot. on paper i really think we could win this one but it will probably be another shit porky goal or dodgy penalty that undoes us :(
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: BlueForYou on March 30, 2017, 12:25:38 AM
29 games played; 50 pts in the bag; 7th position; Liverpool and Utd just above us; Anfield and Old Trafford away next two games;

This is what being a fan and a player is all about; we should be craving games like these; it is all about pressure and winning the battle;

Davies, Holgate, Lookman & Calvert-Lewin should be around for a while; now's the time to get used to it; play 'em and win - losing is not an option;

Liverpool 0 Koeman's Kids 1 - take that, Alan "You win nothing with kids" Hansen!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 30, 2017, 12:26:27 AM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10815584/the-local-lads-who-could-feature-when-liverpool-host-everton-in-the-merseyside-derby

Surely the author should have got to Woodburn and thought, actually, fuck this article of its trash
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on March 30, 2017, 12:32:00 AM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10815584/the-local-lads-who-could-feature-when-liverpool-host-everton-in-the-merseyside-derby

Surely the author should have got to Woodburn and thought, actually, fuck this article of its trash
Tom Davies can't have only started 7 games, can he?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on March 30, 2017, 12:32:27 AM
It'd be a bit annoying for them to put up a "fitness" video of a player who then isn't fit for the weekend.

The club had absolutely nothing to do with this video, Schneiderlin put it up and says nothing about being in training.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 30, 2017, 12:35:12 AM
The club had absolutely nothing to do with this video, Schneiderlin put it up and says nothing about being in training.
Official site app

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170329/1c60846b5dd364992ad897ded04bf0a5.jpg)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 30, 2017, 12:35:45 AM
The club had absolutely nothing to do with this video, Schneiderlin put it up and says nothing about being in training.

no, Everton put it up...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on March 30, 2017, 12:36:38 AM
Tom Davies can't have only started 7 games, can he?

Yep, sounds about right. He's only really featured this year.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on March 30, 2017, 12:38:13 AM
Lennon has hardly been used all season and is behind Mirallas, Valencia, DCL and Lookman in recent times for the wide slots so he wont be playing.

Lookman after his first few appearances hasnt made it off the bench for the last few games so he isnt going to be starting. And DCL had some good moments in the last game but drifted in and out heavily similar to Lookman in the games he started which can be expected with their age and inexperience.

It isnt the kind of game or place where you want to have that risk. I think it will be one of mirallas or Valencia in the wide forward role with Barkley and Rom. Mirallas has had some good performances against them, he might want Valencia as an option for someone who can hold the ball well higher up the pitch and relieve some pressure.

I'm happy with either, I'd be a little concerned about Lookman or DCL playing but if he thought they were right I'd be ok to a point but to throw Lennon in after 17 minutes of football since the beginning of January isnt and shouldnt happen.

But none of those players could fulfill a right wing back position like Lennon could.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on March 30, 2017, 12:39:47 AM
Yep, sounds about right. He's only really featured this year.

Shows the impact he's had then that it feels like a lot more.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on March 30, 2017, 12:40:24 AM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10815584/the-local-lads-who-could-feature-when-liverpool-host-everton-in-the-merseyside-derby

Surely the author should have got to Woodburn and thought, actually, fuck this article of its trash

Had to dredge the gloomy depths of the Liverpool squad to come up with Trent-whatshisface

Desperate for a story.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Shogun on March 30, 2017, 12:42:41 AM
How bad is their academy, man.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on March 30, 2017, 12:44:05 AM

But none of those players could fulfill a right wing back position like Lennon could.

Didn't Davies play RWB a couple of times in preseason?

Edit

I'm not saying he should play there, just that I think Koeman played him there ahead of Lennon, so Lennon at RWB likely.won't be a considered option.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 30, 2017, 12:45:23 AM
But none of those players could fulfill a right wing back position like Lennon could.
If no one can play rwb then we don't play rwb
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on March 30, 2017, 12:45:42 AM
no, Everton put it up...

Oh shit ! You're absolutely right !
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on March 30, 2017, 12:50:27 AM
If no one can play rwb then we don't play rwb


Indeed, but I think Lennon could work well there. I think it's a mute point now Mori's injured anyway. I think he may have gone 3 at the back otherwise.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Paddockoldie on March 30, 2017, 01:02:22 AM
But none of those players could fulfill a right wing back position like Lennon could.

The problem for me isn't really about him being able to play there. Any pro footballer should be able to play any position to varying degrees but his end product is so poor he wouldn't do anymore then just run up and down the wing. He can't cross a ball so if you want just energy, I'd play that Jack Russell. He's got all day energy but still can't cross a ball.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: bluenuck on March 30, 2017, 01:06:02 AM
Which would be possible if we had more than 4 first team defenders left to pick from.

So a 1-9?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: hill135 on March 30, 2017, 01:22:57 AM
Lennon at right midfield would offer more natural width than any other option - which may be a consideration with Coleman out as he's been providing that so far.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on March 30, 2017, 01:56:01 AM
They struggle against teams that play on the counter and we're compact and good on the counter...we've got a great chance here.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: D15TIN on March 30, 2017, 02:05:45 AM
Aaron Lennon shouldnt be considered, he's not played in ages, and is a very average footballer, only reason he's in this conversation is because he's quick, this might be a good oppurtunity to introduce Kenny in a RWB position, with MH AW & PJ as CBs, looked similar to coleman in the game against Norwich last season and grabbed an assist, hes been training with the first team all season.. should be considered imo
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: D15TIN on March 30, 2017, 02:10:47 AM
ive gotta feeling Enner Valencia could be our hero late on here, off the bench
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on March 30, 2017, 02:22:52 AM
Doesn't matter who plays we'll still batter the fuckers.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Rhys on March 30, 2017, 03:08:26 AM
But none of those players could fulfill a right wing back position like Lennon could.

Which is why I dont think 3 at the back is likely. I think it's more likely to keep the back 4 and just have Holgate come in for Coleman.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: charlatan on March 30, 2017, 03:40:39 AM
For their own safety, I hope no blues go in the redshite end on saturday.  Accent will be a dead giveaway
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: ally2 on March 30, 2017, 03:59:41 AM
I'd go for speed down the wings. Maybe a front four diamond of Mirallas, Barkley, Lookman and Lukaku. Everyone else shutting up shop.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 30, 2017, 04:17:28 AM
Don't get the speed down the wings shout

Clyne is quick, milner is not slow

Their weakness for me is down the sides of their centre backs and in front of their centre backs

If you can pull their cb's around, they dont cover it very well
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: ally2 on March 30, 2017, 04:23:31 AM
Don't get the speed down the wings shout

Clyne is quick, milner is not slow

Their weakness for me is down the sides of their centre backs and in front of their centre backs

If you can pull their cb's around, they dont cover it very well

Yes OK. Maybe not the wings then. They won't both be hugging the touchline otherwise Rom would be too isolated. I do think that combination of pace and strength will be enough to trouble Liverpool though.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 30, 2017, 04:27:42 AM
Yes OK. Maybe not the wings then. They won't both be hugging the touchline otherwise Rom would be too isolated. I do think that combination of pace and strength will be enough to trouble Liverpool though.
The way we have lined up with gueye schneirdelin and Davies behind a 3 of Barkley, a n other and lukaku should be plenty

We have strength, pace, energy, steel and enough creativity

We don't need to massively change our set up in players, just our set up mentally

Schneirdelin is the big one for me
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 30, 2017, 05:21:38 AM
Just watching the sky coverage

Who can influence the game? Let's asks the fans

Every Liverpool fan says klopp.
Everton fans say lukaku and Barkley

Why are sky so up klopps arse? I was embarrassed for their fans
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ramjam on March 30, 2017, 05:26:58 AM
Just watching the sky coverage

Who can influence the game? Let's asks the fans

Every Liverpool fan says klopp.
Everton fans say lukaku and Barkley

Why are sky so up klopps arse? I was embarrassed for their fans

I'm surprised they even asked any of our fans, have hey bumped into Jeff from West Derby yet for the latest on BMD?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: brap2 on March 30, 2017, 05:30:30 AM
Fucking Facebook is full of the meffs sharing past victories and goals...why do they get to bang us twice a year the dick heads.

I hate that football club, I really fucking hate that football club and I hope the heat of that hatred never goes.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 30, 2017, 05:55:37 AM
Fucking Facebook is full of the meffs sharing past victories and goals...why do they get to bang us twice a year the dick heads.

I hate that football club, I really fucking hate that football club and I hope the heat of that hatred never goes.

Hate is a beautiful thing, perhaps the most beautiful thing of all.  May it burn forever in our hearts.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 30, 2017, 01:49:03 PM
The 2 game a year reds are out in force again, we all know a few of them, they're not arsed about footy but are the biggest bestest fans in the world come derby day, <Attenborough voice> this rare species of delude  will crawl back into their caves at around 3pm and won't be seen until the eve of the next derby day <Attenborough voice>
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: School of Science on March 30, 2017, 02:43:50 PM
Fucking Facebook is full of the meffs sharing past victories and goals...why do they get to bang us twice a year the dick heads.

I hate that football club, I really fucking hate that football club and I hope the heat of that hatred never goes.

But as you well know, this game doesn't matter to them.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on March 30, 2017, 03:45:02 PM
Don't get the speed down the wings shout

Clyne is quick, milner is not slow

Their weakness for me is down the sides of their centre backs and in front of their centre backs

If you can pull their cb's around, they dont cover it very well

Retain possession and go straight down the middle compacting play and their CH are fucked .
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on March 30, 2017, 04:16:58 PM
ive gotta feeling Enner Valencia could be our hero late on here, off the bench

If this happened I would be in favour of the £14m outlay in the summer, just as a lucky mascot, for his supersub energy, and out of sheer gratitude to be honest.

He could be our far better looking Dirk Kuyt.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on March 30, 2017, 04:25:34 PM
Fucking Facebook is full of the meffs sharing past victories and goals...why do they get to bang us twice a year the dick heads.

I hate that football club, I really fucking hate that football club and I hope the heat of that hatred never goes.

It is one of the purest of all of the emotions.

When they call us bitter, it reminds me of when a singer I admire responded to being called miserable, by stating that he wasn't miserable, he was in fact fucking livid!

So, I'm not bitter; that's too passive for the way I feel about them.

I'm fucking raging with an ever-burning, beautiful hatred for them  :hug:

The whinging, pompous cunts.  :-*
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on March 30, 2017, 06:08:15 PM
Had a quick look on RAWK ,it's cringe-making how they call all their players by their first names. Phil ,Simon ,James  and Bob and Gini  whoever they are .
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ross on March 30, 2017, 06:12:33 PM
Had a quick look on RAWK ,it's cringe-making how they call all their players by their first names. Phil ,Simon ,James  and Bob and Gini  whoever they are .

Sounds crazy Alan.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: AllyBlue14 on March 30, 2017, 06:32:15 PM
Just watching the sky coverage

Who can influence the game? Let's asks the fans

Every Liverpool fan says klopp.
Everton fans say lukaku and Barkley

Why are sky so up klopps arse? I was embarrassed for their fans

The ref
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Shogun on March 30, 2017, 06:39:27 PM
Actually starting to feel quite optimistic about this.

As long as we play as we have been playing and not how we played v Spurs then we've got a good chance here.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on March 30, 2017, 06:52:59 PM
Had a quick look on RAWK ,it's cringe-making how they call all their players by their first names. Phil ,Simon ,James  and Bob and Gini  whoever they are .

Massively cringeworthy.

Thankfully you'll never hear us do the same with Ross, Rom, Kev, Seamus, Ronald etc
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: FinleyBurns on March 30, 2017, 07:02:49 PM
It is certainly hard to see the Reds’ brittle backline containing that threat after keeping just one clean sheet in 10 games.
Title: What TV Channel is Liverpool vs Everton on?
Post by: FinleyBurns on March 30, 2017, 07:31:06 PM
What TV Channel is Liverpool vs Everton on?
Title: Re: What TV Channel is Liverpool vs Everton on?
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 30, 2017, 07:31:57 PM
you could have asked this in the match day thread.....but sky sports
Title: Re: What TV Channel is Liverpool vs Everton on?
Post by: Bluedylan on March 30, 2017, 07:32:23 PM
What TV Channel is Liverpool vs Everton on?

Sky Sports 1. Mergerinho.
Title: Re: What TV Channel is Liverpool vs Everton on?
Post by: Macca77 on March 30, 2017, 07:37:07 PM
Hundreds of dodgy foreign ones.

Sky will do their usual and focus on the kop before kickoff when they're all singing that fucking song, I'm getting angry just thinking about it.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 30, 2017, 07:39:38 PM
Its quite simple really, all we have to do is contain Cuntinho, fuckminho and Mane, easy peasy lemon squeezy
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: brap2 on March 30, 2017, 07:58:01 PM
Hundreds of dodgy foreign ones.

Sky will do their usual and focus on the kop before kickoff when they're all singing that fucking song, I'm getting angry just thinking about it.

Fucking hate that song god please can we upset the apple cart PLEASE.

I want to see klopp foaming at the mouth and carragher's stunned silence, and I want 90 fucking minutes of 60 GRAND 60 GRAND I SAY.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on March 30, 2017, 08:02:03 PM
Sounds crazy Alan.
Massively cringeworthy.

Thankfully you'll never hear us do the same with Ross, Rom, Kev, Seamus, Ronald etc
...............haha very good but it gets on my tits for some reason . And I still don't know who Bob and Gini are.  ???
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on March 30, 2017, 08:03:12 PM
...............haha very good but it gets on my tits for some reason . And I still don't know who Bob and Gini are.  ???

Guessing Bob is Roberto Firmino and Gini is Wijnaldum.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: charlatan on March 30, 2017, 08:17:59 PM
Anyone else see that stat that was going round this week?  Apparently we have had ONE penalty at Anfield in 80 years!!!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on March 30, 2017, 08:22:23 PM
1 - 0 to us - Lookman to score.

I'm feeling a tight game until late on when Lookman comes on and they just can't deal with his fresh, fearless ideas and he's a complete fucking nuisance until one drops at his feet in the 89th.

Happy days   :)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on March 30, 2017, 08:27:26 PM
Anyone else see that stat that was going round this week?  Apparently we have had ONE penalty at Anfield in 80 years!!!

Been 17 years since we were in their box to be fair.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 30, 2017, 08:40:44 PM
Anyone else see that stat that was going round this week?  Apparently we have had ONE penalty at Anfield in 80 years!!!

We'll probably miss if we ever get another
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on March 30, 2017, 08:45:45 PM
Been 17 years since we were in their box to be fair.

Nearly 'Tooled' you for that.

Then I laughed. Then I cried. It's the truth. I hate you for saying it. But it made me laugh.

Settled for a 'Like' and some therapy in the end. My brain hurts  :headbang:
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on March 30, 2017, 08:53:08 PM
At least Jags will get to see out his Everton career as a first teamer now.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on March 30, 2017, 08:59:02 PM
Apart from Jags I think the last Everton player to score there was Beckford ?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on March 30, 2017, 09:15:27 PM
Apart from Jags I think the last Everton player to score there was Beckford ?

Please stop...      I can't take any more!

(http://68.media.tumblr.com/45569093cf740e0a85dcd3e518de727a/tumblr_npzzeobG121qa1xovo6_250.gif)

Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ridge on March 30, 2017, 09:23:58 PM
In the next week we've got 2 games we wouldn't normally expect to win. But if we can win at Anfield, Old Trafford isn't that daunting and suddenly becomes rather appetising. If we can beat the RS at their gaff, they've got a lot of games to not get excited about between now and the end of the season. Salvation will not come at Bournemouth or Stoke, they are currently the favourite for 4th place.

We used do shit against everyone else, but always took a decent share of the points of them. Always loved the derbies when I was younger, I'm not comfortable with the collective fear about going to their place as if its a fortress, Niasse entered the holy list of magic scorers this year and ended their title hopes for the season. He's practically teed them up for us, there's even hope that Galloway might be get a run out against them yet.  :badum:

So if you're up there St Simeon, let this april fools day be the day we give them a dicking the vidiprinter spelled out. Half of their fans could be home and in front of the tele before the mad rush 20 mins before the end. They've all got their white towels at the ready, we can be their last straw. When the spell is broken, it can implode, but we will certainly need to be more us v City than us V Spurs.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ridge on March 30, 2017, 09:47:48 PM
Anyone else see that stat that was going round this week?  Apparently we have had ONE penalty at Anfield in 80 years!!!

Did a little Googlio search and found that Echo have this (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/spot-bother-everton-been-awarded-12815972) and this (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-could-pay-penalty-law-12816630). The cut and thrust of both stories is how its probably going to change as the ref loves giving pens especially against Liverpool, he has given 3 against them this season in only 4 matches! Statistically that's a lot. No analysis of the incidents in question as they were valid penalties, but he does like giving them.

Then glazing over the statistical relevance of the headline of the story, Liverpool conceding only once from a penalty at anfield against us in 80 years. Nope that seems normal, which bent ref gave that penalty then. They even mention another ridiculous statistic that also have conceded once from a penalty at home in the last 2 and a quarter years without much regard.

They've then done a bit of adjustment to make it relevant to Everton fans by saying, good news you're probably going to get a penalty  because you and others are long overdue and the ref is bent.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on March 30, 2017, 09:48:32 PM
O'Keeffe saying he reckons Schneiderlin will be fit for this game, on  the Royal Blue podcast.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: charlatan on March 30, 2017, 09:50:23 PM
In the next week we've got 2 games we wouldn't normally expect to win. But if we can win at Anfield, Old Trafford isn't that daunting and suddenly becomes rather appetising. If we can beat the RS at their gaff, they've got a lot of games to not get excited about between now and the end of the season. Salvation will not come at Bournemouth or Stoke, they are currently the favourite for 4th place.

We used do shit against everyone else, but always took a decent share of the points of them. Always loved the derbies when I was younger, I'm not comfortable with the collective fear about going to their place as if its a fortress, Niasse entered the holy list of magic scorers this year and ended their title hopes for the season. He's practically teed them up for us, there's even hope that Galloway might be get a run out against them yet.  :badum:

So if you're up there St Simeon, let this april fools day be the day we give them a dicking the vidiprinter spelled out. Half of their fans could be home and in front of the tele before the mad rush 20 mins before the end. They've all got their white towels at the ready, we can be their last straw. When the spell is broken, it can implode, but we will certainly need to be more us v City than us V Spurs.

No doubt the brown envelope will be a bit fatter this time then
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on March 30, 2017, 09:51:38 PM
O'Keeffe saying he reckons Schneiderlin will be fit for this game, on  the Royal Blue podcast.

That would be massive. The screening in front of two centre halves who turn like a double decker bus will be vital if we're to stand any chance of stopping them scoring.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 30, 2017, 09:51:55 PM
O'Keeffe saying he reckons Schneiderlin will be fit for this game, on  the Royal Blue podcast.

Huge boost if true, massive
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on March 30, 2017, 09:52:35 PM
Huge boost if true, massive

No idea if he's got any info, or is just guessing to be fair.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 30, 2017, 10:05:56 PM
No idea if he's got any info, or is just guessing to be fair.

Gueye & Schneiderlin fills me with a lot of confidence

Gueye & Barry fills me with impending dread
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on March 30, 2017, 10:08:03 PM
Just spoke to someone on the phone for work who says his mate works at Finch Farm, Schneiderlin has been training all week and WILL be playing on Sat.

Hope to god this is true!

ITK!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 30, 2017, 10:08:48 PM
How fucking good would it be for Ross or Davies to score. fucking hell
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on March 30, 2017, 10:11:58 PM
How fucking good would it be for Ross or Davies to score. fucking hell

'The Tom Davies derby' does have a certain ring to it.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on March 30, 2017, 10:12:44 PM
Woohoo!

And we have a glorious recent history of rushing half-fit players back in time for a derby, so what could possibly go wrong.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/25822244
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 30, 2017, 10:13:40 PM
Sturridge is back for the derby apparently.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on March 30, 2017, 10:16:15 PM
Woohoo!

And we have a glorious recent history of rushing half-fit players back in time for a derby, so what could possibly go wrong.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/25822244

You should warn people before you post a link like that. I had to look at Steven Gerrard's stupid celebrating face for half a second before I caught on and closed the window.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 30, 2017, 10:17:25 PM
'The Tom Davies derby' does have a certain ring to it.

OH YEAHHH

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/fishdance_ame/MJ/gif2eduq79.gif)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on March 30, 2017, 10:18:03 PM
'The Tom Davies derby' does have a certain ring to it.

'The Tom Davies derbies' sound even better!   ;)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on March 30, 2017, 10:19:31 PM
Sturridge is back for the derby apparently.

They pay him big money for two games a year like.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on March 30, 2017, 10:20:36 PM
'The Tom Davies derbies' sound even better!   ;)

Haha. Imagine that became a thing for them, something that they speak of with misery and desperation. Like 'we had a great record against them throughout the early part of the 21st century, and then came the Tom Davies derbies, and everything changed'.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on March 30, 2017, 10:20:40 PM
How fucking good would it be for Ross or Davies to score. fucking hell

I'd like to see Davies get into the box and bait one of their defenders into a stupid challenge, winning the penalty that gives us a 1-0 victory. That would piss them off the most.

Then I remember that there's zero chance of us getting a penalty at Anfield, so a goal would do nicely.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 30, 2017, 10:22:09 PM
I'd like to see Davies get into the box and bait one of their defenders into a stupid challenge, winning the penalty that gives us a 1-0 victory. That would piss them off the most.

Then I remember that there's zero chance of us getting a penalty at Anfield, so a goal would do nicely.

I couldnt cope with us winning a penalty. Id throw up incase we missed it.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on March 30, 2017, 10:26:18 PM
I couldnt cope with us winning a penalty. Id throw up incase we missed it.

I think I would throw up at the sheer fact we had won one tbh.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on March 30, 2017, 10:28:09 PM
I'd like to see Davies get into the box and bait one of their defenders into a stupid challenge, winning the penalty that gives us a 1-0 victory. That would piss them off the most.

Then I remember that there's zero chance of us getting a penalty at Anfield, so a goal would do nicely.

They're gonna kick the shit out of him but he won't care. Love the sound of 'The Tom Davies Derby'....go'ead lad!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on March 30, 2017, 10:29:26 PM
I couldnt cope with us winning a penalty. Id throw up incase we missed it.

And it being the Derby you just know it's a nailed on Miss !
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Big Nev on March 30, 2017, 10:30:00 PM

Then glazing over the statistical relevance of the headline of the story, Liverpool conceding only once from a penalty at anfield against us in 80 years. Nope that seems normal, which bent ref gave that penalty then. They even mention another ridiculous statistic that also have conceded once from a penalty at home in the last 2 and a quarter years without much regard.


Joe Worrell
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on March 30, 2017, 10:30:55 PM
I couldnt cope with us winning a penalty. Id throw up incase we missed it.

Baines straight down the middle, Mignolet saves I reckon, grim!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 30, 2017, 10:37:26 PM
Baines straight down the middle, Mignolet saves I reckon, grim!

UGHHHHH DONT
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on March 30, 2017, 10:56:16 PM
Baines straight down the middle, Mignolet saves I reckon, grim!

Rom scores on the rebound.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ridge on March 30, 2017, 11:18:19 PM
As if Rom is going to let anyone take penalties, he's still going for the golden boot.

Think if Baines was about to take it, you'd have more chance of Mirallas missing it than Leighton.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: BlueForYou on March 30, 2017, 11:48:32 PM
If we get a penalty, it has to be Ross

It'll be your day, son
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on March 30, 2017, 11:51:43 PM
We won't get a penalty.

If we somehow do, it's Baines taking it. Koeman's the manager. He would actually chin someone for grabbing the ball off our penalty taker.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on March 30, 2017, 11:57:54 PM
I don't want us to get a penalty, I want them to get two, Joel saves one and Milner skies the second one into row z of the Kop and Ross hits a screamer from 30 yards in the 91st minute, 1-0 !
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on March 31, 2017, 12:20:10 AM
Baines straight down the middle, Mignolet saves I reckon, grim!

Leighton Baines doesn't miss penalties
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 31, 2017, 12:29:34 AM
Leighton Baines doesn't miss penalties

Yeah but he missed that one at United and now i feel sick whenever he takes them haha
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 31, 2017, 12:30:56 AM
Yeah but he missed that one at United and now i feel sick whenever he takes them haha
He "missed" against Stoke this season as well
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 31, 2017, 12:35:50 AM
looks like Kev is starting....

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8LrC2MV0AAS1qP.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 31, 2017, 12:40:41 AM
I've got a proper man crush on Mirallas, don't tell anyone though
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Robioto on March 31, 2017, 12:49:31 AM
I can't work out who will play at the back? I think a back 4 with Williams and Jags would not work against Liverpool, but then you'd be able to play Holgate at RB.

If we play three at the back doesn't Holgate play in the right of the back 3? But would we want Holgate on the same side as someone playing RBW who is either out of position  (Lennon) or inexperienced  (Pennington or Kenny).

If like to see Kenny or Pennington come in, but would they fit a back 5?

Really can't work out what our best option would be...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 31, 2017, 01:08:44 AM
                  Joel
Holgate Jags Williams Baines
        Gana Schneiderlin
   Davies                Mirallas
                    Barkley
          Lukaku
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on March 31, 2017, 01:13:35 AM
Just hoping that Koeman will say at the Presser tomorrow that Schneiderlin will have a late fitness test
but deep inside knows that's total bullshit and Schneiderlin is fit to play.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on March 31, 2017, 01:22:14 AM
Not looking good !

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/no-sign-morgan-schneiderlin-during-12823070
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on March 31, 2017, 01:40:53 AM
A bit of a curved ball but could Mo Besic get a shout ?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ross on March 31, 2017, 01:43:24 AM
A bit of a curved ball but could Mo Besic get a shout ?

Nope.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: D15TIN on March 31, 2017, 01:46:28 AM
Gana wasnt on those pictures either, echo have nothing to write about, the pictures include 5/6 players on an image at most

Everton wouldn't post images of Schneiderlin in training yesterday if they werent confident he was playing

Barry is on his own separate program for fitness so could well have been doing his own thing at that time.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on March 31, 2017, 01:49:03 AM
http://www.espnfc.com/english-premier-league/23/blog/post/3092327/everton-need-to-stop-feeling-like-second-team-in-liverpool-in-order-to-keep-growing

Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on March 31, 2017, 01:50:23 AM
A bit of a curved ball but could Mo Besic get a shout ?
........doubt it but he could maybe be involved soon . We've got 3 games in 8 days.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 31, 2017, 02:33:02 AM
                  Joel
Holgate Jags Williams Baines
        Gana Schneiderlin
   Davies                Mirallas
                    Barkley
          Lukaku

Nailed it here
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 31, 2017, 02:33:56 AM
Nailed it here

 :Niasse:
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: D15TIN on March 31, 2017, 02:36:57 AM
Besic will be on the bench I think, training with the rest of the players, might get off the bench
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Confucius on March 31, 2017, 02:42:04 AM
I've got a proper man crush on Mirallas, don't tell anyone though

Same.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Confucius on March 31, 2017, 02:44:17 AM
:Niasse:

Where can we preview these?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 31, 2017, 02:44:31 AM
Same.

Slut
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on March 31, 2017, 02:45:13 AM
A bit of a curve-ball but could Mo Besic get a shout ?

Yep.

"Sit down, Mo!"
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 31, 2017, 02:45:17 AM
Where can we preview these?

Go to preview when youre replying, and its on [more]
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Confucius on March 31, 2017, 02:47:00 AM
Slut

 :wanker:
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ridge on March 31, 2017, 02:48:43 AM
Was hoping for some toothpaste brand related pun, but the Holgate ring of confidence sounds a little disturbing.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ridge on March 31, 2017, 02:51:08 AM
A bit of a curved ball but could Mo Besic get a shout ?

Oi Mo, do you know any decent midfielders?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 31, 2017, 03:14:53 AM
So it seems schneirdelin could be out for a further ten days

Robles
Holgate Jagielka Williams Baines
Davies Barry gueye
Mirallas Barkley
Lukaku

I'm worried about Barry being overran but not sure what else we can do.... Maybe Joe Williams from the u21 could step in

🤔
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Buck76 on March 31, 2017, 03:22:36 AM
So with half our defence out the rest of the season can we recall the likes of Tyias/connelly back from loans or not?  Can't see Jags & Williams lasting and too slow with Baines prone to injury.... looking very geriatric at the back with no cover!!!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Buck76 on March 31, 2017, 03:35:42 AM
So it seems schneirdelin could be out for a further ten days

Robles
Holgate Jagielka Williams Baines
Davies Barry gueye
Mirallas Barkley
Lukaku

I'm worried about Barry being overran but not sure what else we can do.... Maybe Joe Williams from the u21 could step in

🤔

Would have thought Dowell & Walsh would be the next in line Midfield wise... Squad looks wafer thin with all our loans..
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 31, 2017, 03:36:19 AM
So it seems schneirdelin could be out for a further ten days


???
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Trowel on March 31, 2017, 03:42:30 AM
Henderson has been ruled out at least, which should help Barry in midfield.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: D15TIN on March 31, 2017, 03:45:30 AM
from the training pictures today

robles
skelenburg

williams
jagielka
holgate
baines
kenny
pennington

barkley
davies
mirallas
Gana
besic
calvert -lewin

lookman
lukaku
kone
valencia

question marks over barry & schneiderlin, no sign of lennon either i dont think
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on March 31, 2017, 03:46:43 AM
So it seems schneirdelin could be out for a further ten days

Robles
Holgate Jagielka Williams Baines
Davies Barry gueye
Mirallas Barkley
Lukaku

I'm worried about Barry being overran but not sure what else we can do.... Maybe Joe Williams from the u21 could step in

🤔

Where have you read about Schneiderlin being out ?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 31, 2017, 03:48:53 AM
from the training pictures today

robles
skelenburg

williams
jagielka
holgate
baines
kenny
pennington

barkley
davies
mirallas
Gana
besic
calvert -lewin

lookman
lukaku
kone
valencia

question marks over barry & schneiderlin, no sign of lennon either i dont think


Barry has his own training scheme usuallly
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: D15TIN on March 31, 2017, 03:51:21 AM
yeah heard the same, god I hope Schneiderlin makes it, can make a huge difference in this game especially with henderson and lallana out we can win this if hes fit
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on March 31, 2017, 03:58:40 AM
yeah heard the same, god I hope Schneiderlin makes it, can make a huge difference in this game especially with henderson and lallana out we can win this if hes fit

Why is Jimmywhack saying Schneiderlin definitely out ? Has there been a tweet/article or what ?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: D15TIN on March 31, 2017, 04:06:28 AM
i think to do with the echo talking about the training pictures from today, and schneiderlin doesnt appear on any of them
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on March 31, 2017, 02:14:18 PM
Squad is looking pretty thin now, at the business end of the season as well with some big games coming up. Not good.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on March 31, 2017, 02:36:27 PM
Squad is looking pretty thin now, at the business end of the season as well with some big games coming up. Not good.

Its not because of the squad size though.  We've got injuries to 3 of the starting XI and 3 backup players.  Its the fact that 2 of the backups play the same position as one of the starters that it looks bad.

It not like we'd be in a better position if we had Cleverley to play instead of Schneiderlin and Oviedo being put in against Liverpool at RB again.

Its this time of the season that you should be trusting the kids to plug the gaps.  No stockpiling older players happy to sit out and puck up the cheque.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on March 31, 2017, 02:45:07 PM
I kind of think if Schneiderlin isn't 100% then we shouldn't risk him

Worst thing would be for him to start and hobble off early on. Barry Davies Gana are still a solid trio in midfield
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on March 31, 2017, 02:48:03 PM
I kind of think if Schneiderlin isn't 100% then we shouldn't risk him

Worst thing would be for him to start and hobble off early on. Barry Davies Gana are still a solid trio in midfield

Barry Davies in Ghana sounds like a comic relief segment.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ramjam on March 31, 2017, 02:50:26 PM
Barry Davies in Ghana sounds like a comic relief segment.

Sounds like aid relief
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ramjam on March 31, 2017, 02:50:56 PM
Bob Geldof anyone?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on March 31, 2017, 03:02:53 PM
Its not because of the squad size though.  We've got injuries to 3 of the starting XI and 3 backup players.  Its the fact that 2 of the backups play the same position as one of the starters that it looks bad.

It not like we'd be in a better position if we had Cleverley to play instead of Schneiderlin and Oviedo being put in against Liverpool at RB again.

Its this time of the season that you should be trusting the kids to plug the gaps.  No stockpiling older players happy to sit out and puck up the cheque.

I agree, we're well rid of the recently departed players. Just making the point that the squad is looking thin at the moment, at the most inopportune time.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 31, 2017, 03:03:22 PM
Barry Davies in Ghana sounds like a comic relief segment.

(https://m.popkey.co/37d042/a0dXV.gif)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on March 31, 2017, 03:37:43 PM
The butterflies have started.

Can't be arsed
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: wilbur on March 31, 2017, 03:48:19 PM
Calf strain injuries are usually quite predictable. Not safe to risk them after 2 weeks, pretty safe after 4.

If Schneiderlin was very close, which I don't think he is BTW, then he might wait another 3 days and he would then be facing his old team where he has a real point to prove.

It looks like only 4 outfield players from last year's horror show at Anfield will be in the starting 11.

Baines, Barry, Barkley and Lukaku (possibly Mirallas). That can only be a good thing, with the absence of the shithouse bottler Stones being the most important factor.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on March 31, 2017, 03:54:12 PM
The butterflies have started.

Can't be arsed

I start work at 12, I'm gonna record the game and if we win I will watch it on repeat untily next shift

If we lose I will delete straight away

If we draw then just wait til MOTD
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on March 31, 2017, 04:38:31 PM
I'm doing a night shift, and will get home about 9am on Saturday. No point kipping so just gonna pretty much get straight on it from the moment I get in, and turn it into an all dayer. Substance abuse helps with derbies.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on March 31, 2017, 04:52:38 PM
I'm straight to ikea after the game so would be happy with a draw.

A win or a defeat and it's no ending well.

Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 31, 2017, 04:57:35 PM
I'm doing a night shift, and will get home about 9am on Saturday. No point kipping so just gonna pretty much get straight on it from the moment I get in, and turn it into an all dayer. Substance abuse helps with derbies.

Ill be doing pretty much the same, park my arse in the boozer at 11.30ish, swig a few pints before to calm the nerves and swig several more during and after, I doubt i'll be functioning properly from about 2.30 onwards.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: GLewis on March 31, 2017, 04:59:51 PM
I kind of think if Schneiderlin isn't 100% then we shouldn't risk him

Worst thing would be for him to start and hobble off early on. Barry Davies Gana are still a solid trio in midfield

Also with the Utd game so soon after it complicates things.

Barry struggles to play 2 games so close together so it may be, over the two games, better to make sure Schneiderlin can play on Wednesday.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on March 31, 2017, 05:03:01 PM
Also with the Utd game so soon after it complicates things.

Barry struggles to play 2 games so close together so it may be, over the two games, better to make sure Schneiderlin can play on Wednesday.

3 games in 8 days means we can't afford any more injuries or reoccurrences. Remains to be seen how Williams, Jags and Baines can manage such a schedule let alone Barry.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: GLewis on March 31, 2017, 05:03:38 PM
Think Barry's weaknesses are also being a bit over emphasised.

The home derby was a pain because we were looking to be on the front foot right in their faces. That's not his game clearly.

Tomorrow I'd be very surprised if we didn't look to sit deeper and hit them on the break. That's more suited to him especially if Gueye and Davies are doing the running in front of him. 

The issue with the Spurs game seems to have been too heavily pinned on him playing too.

No-one had a good game really and the formation was too narrow with not enough goal threat.

Sort those two elements out and I'd expect a much better performance.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pjk on March 31, 2017, 05:05:02 PM
Also with the Utd game so soon after it complicates things.

Barry struggles to play 2 games so close together so it may be, over the two games, better to make sure Schneiderlin can play on Wednesday.



The United game looks more winnable. Personally I would think getting Schneiderlin fit for that will probably give him a better chance of actually staying fit for the seven games left after that. If we go into the Liverpool game with the bit between our teeth? We have a much better chance of actually winning it. Koeman seems to be fairly good at rallying the troops. :)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: GLewis on March 31, 2017, 05:08:50 PM


The United game looks more winnable. Personally I would think getting Schneiderlin fit for that will probably give him a better chance of actually staying fit for the seven games left after that. If we go into the Liverpool game with the bit between our teeth? We have a much better chance of actually winning it. Koeman seems to be fairly good at rallying the troops. :)

The problem with the Utd game is that it's after the derby game.

It's very hard to play two away games like that with the same intensity.

Still, these are the games etc etc :)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 31, 2017, 05:09:06 PM
Think Barry's weaknesses are also being a bit over emphasised.

The home derby was a pain because we were looking to be on the front foot right in their faces. That's not his game clearly.

Tomorrow I'd be very surprised if we didn't look to sit deeper and hit them on the break. That's more suited to him especially if Gueye and Davies are doing the running in front of him. 

The issue with the Spurs game seems to have been too heavily pinned on him playing too.

No-one had a good game really and the formation was too narrow with not enough goal threat.

Sort those two elements out and I'd expect a much better performance.

you always make me feel better!!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ramjam on March 31, 2017, 05:09:32 PM
I think the problem with the GP Derby was the fact that at that time Koeman said that we were not 100% fit and up to speed
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: GLewis on March 31, 2017, 05:13:13 PM
I think the problem with the GP Derby was the fact that at that time Koeman said that we were not 100% fit and up to speed

Yeah that didn't help.

We were better than at the start of the season but we're fitter still now.

Plus we did a lot of running in that first half. Not many teams do that to them. It was bound to take its toll.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pjk on March 31, 2017, 05:26:51 PM
The problem with the Utd game is that it's after the derby game.

It's very hard to play two away games like that with the same intensity.

Still, these are the games etc etc :)



I'd be very happy with four points from any of the varying combinations. I wouldn't be to distraught with two points either, as they would be losing points too, which would keep them in reasonable touching distance. :)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 31, 2017, 05:33:14 PM
COME ON PLEASE PLEASE . DONT YOU LOVE ROSS!!!

https://twitter.com/Everton/status/847696097514471424
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pjk on March 31, 2017, 05:41:03 PM
Unsy's right about the spine tingling or the *goosebumps* (*that's what I get) when we come out to Z cars. If you don't get it you're not an Evertonian. Oh yeah! And Ross doesn't sound like he's going anywhere. :)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on March 31, 2017, 05:43:19 PM
COME ON PLEASE PLEASE . DONT YOU LOVE ROSS!!!

https://twitter.com/Everton/status/847696097514471424

Goosebumps!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on March 31, 2017, 05:43:49 PM
The derby is the key game in this run and not for the obvious reason. Lose it and any hope of top 4 is gone and we're probably destined for 7th, which is no disgrace but it means the run in becomes a little devoid of motivation.

It's a must not lose game. A win great but unlikely.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on March 31, 2017, 05:44:20 PM
COME ON PLEASE PLEASE . DONT YOU LOVE ROSS!!!

https://twitter.com/Everton/status/847696097514471424

Great post and I hope Unsy will one day be our manager !
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on March 31, 2017, 06:03:57 PM
The problem with the Utd game is that it's after the derby game.

It's very hard to play two away games like that with the same intensity.

Still, these are the games etc etc :)

At least the travel times will be next to nothing.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: D15TIN on March 31, 2017, 06:58:46 PM
Koemans press conference in 2 minutes so were about to find out whose made it, everything crossed for Morgan
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 31, 2017, 07:02:28 PM
fuck

https://twitter.com/Everton/status/847780947592265728
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 31, 2017, 07:04:20 PM
https://www.periscope.tv/Everton/1mrGmeQnVzLGy
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluenose 91 on March 31, 2017, 07:05:40 PM
Arse has gone big time.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: D15TIN on March 31, 2017, 07:06:39 PM
fuck sake.

Trying to think of the last time weve not had a few injuries before a derby
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 31, 2017, 07:07:16 PM
Barry and Gueye it is then
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on March 31, 2017, 07:10:47 PM
I'd let them have a lot of the ball and then play them on the counter attack with plenty of balls down the inside channels to isolate Rom v their centre halves. Therefore Barry playing might not be too bad in this type of fixture.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 31, 2017, 07:12:39 PM
Over reaction here, get a grip ffs, its a big blow but we are not a one man team
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: D15TIN on March 31, 2017, 07:13:21 PM
“In my opinion he would need at least one full week of training with the team to be declared fit. I spoke to James, he needs to take responsibility. It is not the first time.”

thats mccarthy sold in the summer
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on March 31, 2017, 07:15:32 PM
“In my opinion he would need at least one full week of training with the team to be declared fit. I spoke to James, he needs to take responsibility. It is not the first time.”

thats mccarthy sold in the summer

Pulls no punches there Koeman. I think it's safe to say he's not impressed.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pjk on March 31, 2017, 07:19:42 PM
All this criticism of Gareth Barry is unjustified. He's had some very good performances since the turn of the year. The good thing about Morgan Schneiderlin signing is, it gave Barry more time on the sidelines for recovery with his fitness and age being a part of his conditioning, to play an effective part in the game.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: D15TIN on March 31, 2017, 07:21:42 PM
“We did a good job. We played how we need to play against Liverpool. That’s what we’ll try tomorrow.

“We did well and I have to recognise that in the last 30 minutes Liverpool was the better team - but we didn’t deserve to lose.

“I heard in the last two seasons they were too afraid to play against Liverpool. Why you need to be afraid, I don’t understand that.”

“The players by themselves need to control and focus on the game plan. Do not make stupid fouls and control your reactions. That’s up to the player.”



We were fucking awful in that 2nd half of the derby, looks like another sit back, lukaku isolated etc
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: D15TIN on March 31, 2017, 07:22:53 PM
Schneiderlin out of both games too, assuming hes back for the Leicester game
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pjk on March 31, 2017, 07:29:10 PM
Regarding James McCarthy. It's about time he was read the riot act and told to be more responsible towards the club. I was happy with the improvement when he returned from injury last time out, far too short a run of games once again though. But to behave like this after Everton have been paying his wages whilst he was injured, is enough for me. He needs to be sent on his way. He's a cheeky twat.


Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on March 31, 2017, 07:29:49 PM
Can't believe my delivery driver who 'has a mate at Finch Farm who says Schneiderlin has trianed all week and will be fit' was full of it!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on March 31, 2017, 07:33:40 PM
Can't believe my delivery driver who 'has a mate at Finch Farm who says Schneiderlin has trianed all week and will be fit' was full of it!

Or was he?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: ally2 on March 31, 2017, 07:35:37 PM
Regarding James McCarthy. It's about time he was read the riot act and told to be more responsible towards the club. I was happy with the improvement when he returned from injury last time out, far too short a run of games once again though. But to behave like this after Everton have been paying his wages whilst he was injured, is enough for me. He needs to be sent on his way. He's a cheeky twat.

Don't think there's much point reading any riot act. McCarthy is gone which fine by me. I was OK with him until this. You can't rely on him
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: GLewis on March 31, 2017, 07:37:31 PM
“We did a good job. We played how we need to play against Liverpool. That’s what we’ll try tomorrow.

“We did well and I have to recognise that in the last 30 minutes Liverpool was the better team - but we didn’t deserve to lose.

“I heard in the last two seasons they were too afraid to play against Liverpool. Why you need to be afraid, I don’t understand that.”

“The players by themselves need to control and focus on the game plan. Do not make stupid fouls and control your reactions. That’s up to the player.”



We were fucking awful in that 2nd half of the derby, looks like another sit back, lukaku isolated etc

Any team that's gone out and been open against them has got steam rollered though.

We shouldn't be playing into their hands through some misguided pride.

We need to be positive when we have the ball though and without wanting to sound trite, good too.

Too often our quality lets us down as we're not positive. And that means playing difficult passes when needed, controlling the ball etc.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ross on March 31, 2017, 07:38:41 PM
Anyone still looking for a ticket at this late stage will probably be able to get a seat in the dugout.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pjk on March 31, 2017, 07:41:31 PM
Don't think there's much point reading any riot act. McCarthy is gone which fine by me. I was OK with him until this. You can't rely on him



Well Ronald can always take the one back he's just read out like. ;)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: brap2 on March 31, 2017, 07:53:53 PM
COME ON PLEASE PLEASE . DONT YOU LOVE ROSS!!!

https://twitter.com/Everton/status/847696097514471424

Welled up a bit watching this on the train to work this morning 😂

I am a dickhead.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: D15TIN on March 31, 2017, 08:31:51 PM
now we know whose available id go:

robles

holgate williams jagielka
kenny davies gana baines
barkley mirallas
lukaku

think itll be:

robles

holgate williams jagielka baines

gana barry
davies
barkley mirallas

lukaku
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on March 31, 2017, 08:33:25 PM
Robles

Holgate Williams Jags Baines

Gana Barry Davies

Barkley Lukaku Mirallas

That personnel formation may be a little different.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on March 31, 2017, 08:42:38 PM
Robles

Holgate Williams Jags Baines

Gana Barry Davies

Barkley Lukaku Mirallas

That personnel formation may be a little different.
[/quote

I will go with that ,probably the best starting eleven available .
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: D15TIN on March 31, 2017, 08:46:51 PM
in terms of attack were at full strength, so thats encouraging, really hope mirallas starts, hes one of the few players who usually plays very well against liverpool, and isnt arsed about them or worried - some are
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on March 31, 2017, 09:03:28 PM
Massive blow big Morgs being out.

But good to see Koeman be responsible with a players fitness. Too many times we've come up here with patched up players and it never works.

I'm a massive fan of Barry but don't want to see him in this game, unless it's to come on in the last ten when we're 2-0 up.

But without him comes a massive reshuffle in the middle.

If Coleman and mori were available it would be three at the back I have no doubt.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: MexicanToffee on March 31, 2017, 09:43:52 PM
Robles

Holgate Williams Jags Baines

Gana Barry Davies

Barkley Lukaku Mirallas

That personnel formation may be a little different.

Yup, that looks exactly how they will start. Would like top see both Lookman and Valencia get some time in the second half.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on March 31, 2017, 10:05:10 PM
Yup, that looks exactly how they will start. Would like top see both Lookman and Valencia get some time in the second half.

Why?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: D15TIN on March 31, 2017, 10:19:21 PM
Yup, that looks exactly how they will start. Would like top see both Lookman and Valencia get some time in the second half.

Agree tbh, been impressed with valencia this last month or so, if were still level going in to the last 20mins throw valencia on, just off lukaku, weve scored the most late goals in europe.. lets hope that continues and we nick this at the death.. oh how sweet that would be.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: D15TIN on March 31, 2017, 10:28:50 PM
think its important who scores first, if liverpool score early on were fucked an will probably get a hiding, if we score first though, im a lot more confident of holding that lead/extending it under koeman with a counter attack, than I would have been under martinez or moyes
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: D15TIN on March 31, 2017, 11:33:21 PM
probably get rinsed for this, but just been text the team here from a mate whose close to someone at FF ha

robles

holgate
baines
Pennington
Williams
Jagielka

barkley
davies
gana
calvert-lewin

lukaku



hope thats not it personally, would have mirallas in there at least over DCL
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Dr. Sponge on March 31, 2017, 11:38:31 PM
Gutted about Schneiderlin, he's a class act.

But Barry, Gueye and Davies aren't a bad midfield 3. Energy and combative. Barry can pick a pass too.

Has to be 433, team picks itself now.

Robles
Holgate
Jagielka
Williams
Baines
Davies
Barry
Gueye
Barkley
Mirallas
Lukaku

Without Lallana they're only half as good. The two Brazilian farts are hit and miss. Keep Mane quiet and we're on for a win!

COYB!!!!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on March 31, 2017, 11:39:18 PM
Pennington wont start, not a chance
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: D15TIN on March 31, 2017, 11:47:09 PM
Pennington wont start, not a chance
'Am only telling you what the spirits are telling me'
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Paddockoldie on March 31, 2017, 11:48:51 PM
'Am only telling you what the spirits are telling me'
Which on Gordon's or Johnny Walker?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: D15TIN on March 31, 2017, 11:49:54 PM
Which on Gordon's or Johnny Walker?
ha, not a Phoenix Nights fan?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on April 01, 2017, 12:07:32 AM
Question: would people rather draw this and draw united, or lose this and beat united?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: arteta4spain on April 01, 2017, 12:13:15 AM
Question: would people rather draw this and draw united, or lose this and beat united?
If only those two options I'd go with the first one. Can't be arsed with them if we get beat. Really can't see how it's gonna go. We've been pretty decent and Roms been on fire since the Derby at Goodison. I'd like to be optimistic and say a 2-1 win but I just know we'll get screwed over someway! 
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: arteta4spain on April 01, 2017, 12:16:14 AM
I'm gonna miss the game as I'm in work until 4. I haven't got sky so is there anyway of getting a hold of the whole game somewhere?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 12:18:26 AM
Question: would people rather draw this and draw united, or lose this and beat united?

3 points instead of two? No brainer for me, 3 points.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Confucius on April 01, 2017, 12:22:24 AM
Question: would people rather draw this and draw united, or lose this and beat united?

Between those two the latter. It's worth 1 more point. But would prefer beating these and lose to  United.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: MexicanToffee on April 01, 2017, 12:28:09 AM
Why?

Why do I think that will be the starting lineup?.... because I think it will provide us with the best chance of getting a result.
Why do I want to see Lookman and Valencia get some time?... because I like them both.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ridge on April 01, 2017, 12:35:26 AM
If we are going to play 3 at the back, either Pennington or Kenny starts.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: D15TIN on April 01, 2017, 12:47:10 AM
If we are going to play 3 at the back, either Pennington or Kenny starts.
if that is the team, he will have been planning to start Mori.. and obviously had to throw pennington in
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: GLewis on April 01, 2017, 12:59:27 AM
if that is the team, he will have been planning to start Mori.. and obviously had to throw pennington in

You would assume there are two courses of action if you get injuries to players on international duty.

1) is completely rip up and start again.

2) is slot the next player into that position.

As you say the second course for a 3-4-3 / 3-5-2 would mean either Pennington or Kenny in.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 01, 2017, 01:34:57 AM
Thibk I'd be slightly disappointed if koeman can't take stock of mori injury three days back and Re think

Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 01, 2017, 01:38:45 AM
Lad who said schneirdelin was out (is normally good with team news too)  says Pennington and Dcl are in with a huge shout

Backs up distin team

I feel a bit underwhelmed by that
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on April 01, 2017, 02:11:55 AM
Excellent article ,get through the red part and watch the video......

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/mar/31/liverpool-everton-rival-clubs-sharing-in-battle-for-soul-football-merseyside-anfield-goodison-park
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 01, 2017, 02:15:48 AM
Mane is going to love not having a fullback up against him and Ashley Williams to run at.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on April 01, 2017, 02:22:25 AM
I'd be okay with that line-up. Plenty of defenders, pace in midfield to patrol that dangerous area in front of the defense, and three men in the forward areas who can win the physical battle against their respective defenders. Plus, an extra local lad thrown in for good measure. I see the argument for Mirallas but Calvert-Lewin makes a lot of sense in this match. He held the ball up well against Ranocchia last time out and he should be able to do the same against Clyne. If we can make the ball stick on the wings, we should be able create quality chances. Holgate is the most awkward fit in that team, and while he can't give us anything like what Coleman does in terms of creative output, he's a better passer than Coleman and he has the athleticism to make the forward runs when needed.

We haven't always gotten the results but I can't really argue with Koeman's inclination to go defensive and muck up the game when we're a bit overmatched. It's a strategy that blew up in our face when we conceded an early goal to Chelsea, and it looked pretty bad when we lost control in the second half of the Goodison derby (due at least partly to a McCarthy injury), but it also won us a decisive victory against City. That first goal is always crucial when you go defensive and the manager almost always looks stupid when his team concedes first. I'm happy that Koeman isn't afraid to look stupid. The cynical approach is our best way of picking up points in these sort of matches at the moment.

Really curious to see how this one plays out.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: GLewis on April 01, 2017, 02:23:48 AM
Mane is going to love not having a fullback up against him and Ashley Williams to run at.

Or he's got to run past Baines and then an extra CB who knows there's cover on the inside.

There's strengths and weaknesses to either option given Mane's form.

Can't be bothered panicking about this (as it probably makes little difference) ;)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: GLewis on April 01, 2017, 02:28:13 AM
I'd be okay with that line-up. Plenty of defenders, pace in midfield to patrol that dangerous area in front of the defense, and three men in the forward areas who can win the physical battle against their respective defenders. Plus, an extra local lad thrown in for good measure. I see the argument for Mirallas but Calvert-Lewin makes a lot of sense in this match. He held the ball up well against Ranocchia last time out and he should be able to do the same against Clyne. If we can make the ball stick on the wings, we should be able create quality chances. Holgate is the most awkward fit in that team, and while he can't give us anything like what Coleman does in terms of creative output, he's a better passer than Coleman and he has the athleticism to make the forward runs when needed.

We haven't always gotten the results but I can't really argue with Koeman's inclination to go defensive and muck up the game when we're a bit overmatched. It's a strategy that blew up in our face when we conceded an early goal to Chelsea, and it looked pretty bad when we lost control in the second half of the Goodison derby (due at least partly to a McCarthy injury), but it also won us a decisive victory against City. That first goal is always crucial when you go defensive and the manager almost always looks stupid when his team concedes first. I'm happy that Koeman isn't afraid to look stupid. The cynical approach is our best way of picking up points in these sort of matches at the moment.

Really curious to see how this one plays out.

He clearly thinks about every game.

That won't always be right but equally neither is just sticking with the same plan all the time.

We keep the ball better with 3 at the back as @hill135 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3741) has observed before and it clogs up the centre of the pitch.

If they end up slinging crosses in then we should be ok to cope with that.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: GLewis on April 01, 2017, 02:31:35 AM
Lad who said schneirdelin was out (is normally good with team news too)  says Pennington and Dcl are in with a huge shout

Backs up distin team

I feel a bit underwhelmed by that

There's not one line up, given out recent record and performances there, that I could say that yeah, I'd be certain that that will do well.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 01, 2017, 02:49:35 AM
Or he's got to run past Baines and then an extra CB who knows there's cover on the inside.

There's strengths and weaknesses to either option given Mane's form.

Can't be bothered panicking about this (as it probably makes little difference) ;)

Well no point panicking because there's bugger all anyone other than Koeman can do!

That and it's possible it's not the team.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 01, 2017, 03:10:34 AM
Wrd just backed it up

Not saying this couldn't be wrong but

Robles
Pennington Williams Jagielka
Holgate gueye Davies baines
Barkley Dcl
Lukaku
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: KevtheRat on April 01, 2017, 03:20:55 AM
'Am only telling you what the spirits are telling me'

For what it's worth I've heard the same thing, 3 at the back with Pennington starting.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 01, 2017, 03:45:08 AM

  Don't think Lookmans ready for games like this yet, but would like to see Valencia get
a look in 2mora, was having a great game at Goodison and should have stayed on, no reason
to have the fear of theese anymore....come on lads lets 'av um.....
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: plowman2 on April 01, 2017, 03:47:57 AM
Lad who said schneirdelin was out (is normally good with team news too)  says Pennington and Dcl are in with a huge shout

Backs up distin team

I feel a bit underwhelmed by that
We're not so desperate at the back that we're bringing Distin back, are we?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on April 01, 2017, 03:55:22 AM
I'd be okay with that line-up. Plenty of defenders, pace in midfield to patrol that dangerous area in front of the defense, and three men in the forward areas who can win the physical battle against their respective defenders. Plus, an extra local lad thrown in for good measure. I see the argument for Mirallas but Calvert-Lewin makes a lot of sense in this match. He held the ball up well against Ranocchia last time out and he should be able to do the same against Clyne. If we can make the ball stick on the wings, we should be able create quality chances. Holgate is the most awkward fit in that team, and while he can't give us anything like what Coleman does in terms of creative output, he's a better passer than Coleman and he has the athleticism to make the forward runs when needed.

We haven't always gotten the results but I can't really argue with Koeman's inclination to go defensive and muck up the game when we're a bit overmatched. It's a strategy that blew up in our face when we conceded an early goal to Chelsea, and it looked pretty bad when we lost control in the second half of the Goodison derby (due at least partly to a McCarthy injury), but it also won us a decisive victory against City. That first goal is always crucial when you go defensive and the manager almost always looks stupid when his team concedes first. I'm happy that Koeman isn't afraid to look stupid. The cynical approach is our best way of picking up points in these sort of matches at the moment.

Really curious to see how this one plays out.

I think we have to approach it like this

I know hearts can rule heads in these games but This Klopp side is one dimensional. They try and do the same thing no matter who they are playing and no matter what players they have available (kind of like us under Martinez) and if you are clever then you can beat them

Spurs, Arsenal and City all foolishly played the wrong game plan against them at Anfield and were beaten

Lallana and Mane for me are the key players to making Klopps system work as they do the running. They ideally want us to have possession at the back and mess about with it on the edge of our area so they can rob the ball off us in dangerous positions

If we did go all guns blazing at them and played a high defensive line, that is exactly what they would want us to do and they would maul us.

Men behind the ball, concede that they are going to have most of the ball, try to frustrate them so that they go at us and leave gaps and then hope that we can create 1 or 2 chances for the leagues top scorer to eat up - that's the plan for me

If we do win then I think it will be 1-0 and Rom or possibly Valencia in a late cameo to get the goal

As ever against this lot - I would love a fucking win!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: kewns23 on April 01, 2017, 04:35:34 AM
I would just like them too turn up
I was annoyed by the jammy winner at gp

However I was impressed that we give ago,

So let's just go out and give it our all
Win, lose or draw coyb!!!!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: arteta4spain on April 01, 2017, 05:20:14 AM
I would just like them too turn up
I was annoyed by the jammy winner at gp

However I was impressed that we give ago,

So let's just go out and give it our all
Win, lose or draw coyb!!!!
Yeah I thought we deserved something from the first one at gp.
Even a red mate said we were robbed and that they just turned up in the last 20 mins and robbed it.
I'd love that. Sit and let them have the ball then twat them right at the end.
All my red mates aren't that confident. They're shit scared of Rom and saying if he gets a chance he'll finish. Last season they were all saying he was shite, now they're worried.
I know it sounds stupid but if we can get Rom involved from the off and he terrorises them enough, the fans will start bricking it and maybe that'll feed onto the pitch and give us an edge. It's a lot to ask of one player but if the midfield can protect the back four and also get Rom into some good positions, we've got more than a small chance of winning it.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Confucius on April 01, 2017, 05:23:42 AM
We as fans all want a win, we crave a win but many times, the manager sees it as another game. A game where maybe he reckons a point is good enough so sets us up to get a point. I hope he wants more and is trying to get a win as a win here really puts the cat amongst the pigeons for a top 4 spot.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: arteta4spain on April 01, 2017, 05:29:42 AM
We as fans all want a win, we crave a win but many times, the manager sees it as another game. A game where maybe he reckons a point is good enough so sets us up to get a point. I hope he wants more and is trying to get a win as a win here really puts the cat amongst the pigeons for a top 4 spot.
I wouldn't blame Koeman if he starts/ employs a defensive team. With the injuries he might not have a choice. Coleman and Schniederlin are huge losses to how we would have set up.
He'll have to tinker to make sure there's a good balanced side to face them.
Dont get me wrong Koeman will want to win but he knows how strong they are at home and we can't go toe to toe with them as we'll get mauled. I have faith in Koeman, if this was Roberto, even if we'd  smashed every team prior to this I'd expect a loss.
Anything can happen but I'm quietly confident. 
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: KevtheRat on April 01, 2017, 05:33:40 AM
Henderson and Lallana missing for them is massive, they aren't world beaters individually but so important to the way they play. If we turn up this is there for the taking.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ramjam on April 01, 2017, 07:12:05 AM
Henderson and Lallana missing for them is massive, they aren't world beaters individually but so important to the way they play. If we turn up this is there for the taking.

The cunts are always there for the taking but we never fucking take them. Bottle it every time
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on April 01, 2017, 01:02:35 PM
Just heard the schneiderlin news. Deveststed. Was clinging on to him playing.

Dont reckon we are getting a carrot out of this now.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on April 01, 2017, 02:01:25 PM
Why go there and have a go and get mullered? No point stretching the game and isolating Mane one on one v any one of our 30 something's at the back.

Keep it tight, let them have the ball and pick them off with some intelligent balls down the channels. As the game wears on they will leave space as the Kop bays for blood and then we come into it.

Hopefully.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Robioto on April 01, 2017, 02:26:30 PM
I'm not watching this one, the girlfriend has sorted out a surprise trip to London and we are meeting friends at 1200 for lunch.

Great present, but I've told her that it might be best to check the fixtures next time. :)

Still with the Anfield derby I get such a feeling if dread when im watching it that maybe its a blessing in disguise that I cant watch it.

I died a little in side forever watching last year's embarrassment at Anfield.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pjk on April 01, 2017, 02:31:38 PM
I'm not watching this one, the girlfriend has sorted out a surprise trip to London and we are meeting friends at 1200 for lunch.

Great present, but I've told her that it might be best to check the fixtures next time. :)

Still with the Anfield derby i vet such a feeking if dread whrn im watching it that maybe its a blessing in disguise that I cant watch it.

I died a little in side forever watching last year's embarrassment at Anfield.



I think your last post went through a worm hole or something. :)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Robioto on April 01, 2017, 02:33:06 PM


I think your last post went through a worm hole or something. :)

The bloody predictive text on my phone has gone massively tits up from the last android up date.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on April 01, 2017, 02:44:24 PM
Nerves have gone, shitting myself, sat on the bog now pebbledashing the porcelain

Too much?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Robioto on April 01, 2017, 02:49:27 PM
Nerves have gone, shitting myself, sat on the bog now pebbledashing the porcelain

Too much?

Yes, too much!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Paddockoldie on April 01, 2017, 02:49:59 PM
Great present, but I've told her that it might be best to check the fixtures next time. :)

You mean there's a next time after THAT?? You're ruining that girl fella  :hug: Enjoy the day... it's only a derby eh?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Paddockoldie on April 01, 2017, 02:51:22 PM
Nerves have gone, shitting myself, sat on the bog now pebbledashing the porcelain

Too much?

A bit.. I'm having coco pops mate
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Big Nev on April 01, 2017, 02:58:36 PM


Great present, but I've told her that it might be best to check the fixtures next time. :)



Or a new girlfriend if it happens again.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on April 01, 2017, 02:59:53 PM
I apologise, solids now
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on April 01, 2017, 03:01:19 PM
We're not so desperate at the back that we're bringing Distin back, are we?

I wouldn't be adverse to that, actually


He would, though :Williams:
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ramjam on April 01, 2017, 03:15:50 PM
Just been on BBC sports page and the headline is Liverpool v Everton and its all about those cunts, I'm fuckin boiling it's a disgrace as usual, all those full kit fucking wankers on the front page
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pjk on April 01, 2017, 03:17:56 PM
Fucking hell. I think Ronalds getting over excited. lolol


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Matchday! Merseyside Derby, Liverpool vs @Everton (https://twitter.com/Everton) #coyb (https://twitter.com/hashtag/coyb?src=hash) #Everton (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Everton?src=hash) #MerseysideDerby (https://twitter.com/hashtag/MerseysideDerby?src=hash) pic.twitter.com/AF6ZYEOkkL (https://t.co/AF6ZYEOkkL)</p>&mdash; Ronald Koeman (@RonaldKoeman) April 1, 2017 (https://twitter.com/RonaldKoeman/status/848086033929560064)
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Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TSGun on April 01, 2017, 03:18:03 PM
Starting to get excited now.

Been counting the omens all day. So far it's 6 good to 4 bad with 3 indecipherable.

The oracle has spoken in typical ambiguous fashion.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blue slug on April 01, 2017, 03:23:29 PM
I feel sick, hate Derby day, my stomach is in turmoil
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 01, 2017, 03:26:12 PM
In from the night shift now. Let the debauchery commence.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on April 01, 2017, 03:28:51 PM
It's pissing down as well, could be time for some epic Derby slideys!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on April 01, 2017, 03:30:03 PM
Just been told that Pennington is deffo in the squad by one of his mates, Koeman hasn't decided if he starts yet though
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 01, 2017, 03:30:25 PM
had a dream we scored after 5 mins, they equalised on 86.....
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TSGun on April 01, 2017, 03:36:35 PM
had a dream we scored after 5 mins, they equalised on 86.....
...and then you woke up or did it continue till the end of the game?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ramjam on April 01, 2017, 03:36:55 PM
had a dream we scored after 5 mins, they equalised on 86.....

Dream on Audrey, you should have set your alarm for half time
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 01, 2017, 03:38:09 PM
...and then you woke up or did it continue till the end of the game?

woke up....with sickness  haha
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TSGun on April 01, 2017, 03:41:16 PM
woke up....with sickness  haha
haha that's 4 indecipherable then.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Toffee1 on April 01, 2017, 03:43:38 PM
Just been on BBC sports page and the headline is Liverpool v Everton and its all about those cunts, I'm fuckin boiling it's a disgrace as usual, all those full kit fucking wankers on the front page

Just watched the BBC's sport segment on their breakfast programme and according to their reporter the only players that are injured are Henderson and Llalana as he failed to mention Coleman, Morgan, Funes and McCarthy. Glad to see the BBC is maintaining it's stance of being impartial.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Trowel on April 01, 2017, 03:55:30 PM
Henderson on Coleman in today's programme:
https://twitter.com/RichardBuxton_/status/848095165592080384
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Trowel on April 01, 2017, 03:58:21 PM
The Echo reckon Pennington starts.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/pennington-liverpool-everton-merseyside-derby-12829813
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: velimski on April 01, 2017, 04:02:43 PM
Can't say that I'm massively enthusiastic about a fixture we haven't won in 18 years.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 01, 2017, 04:03:49 PM
lad on twitter saying Pennington, Holgate, DCL all starting, and no Barry.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 01, 2017, 04:06:47 PM
Interesting. I wonder if Koeman's specifically going with some of the kids because they aren't scarred by previous losses, like some of the older boys. I know some of it, like Holgate, is born of necessity, but it could be that we have Davies, Pennington, Holgate and Calvert-Lewin all starting an away derby, which is remarkable really.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 01, 2017, 04:07:16 PM
Think we'll win today but then it is the hope that kills us
18 years without a win at anfield is a disgrace. They haven't been that great in that time and we've been reasonably decent too.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on April 01, 2017, 04:15:16 PM
The rumoured team will do for me.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TSGun on April 01, 2017, 04:20:13 PM
Interesting. I wonder if Koeman's specifically going with some of the kids because they aren't scarred by previous losses, like some of the older boys. I know some of it, like Holgate, is born of necessity, but it could be that we have Davies, Pennington, Holgate and Calvert-Lewin all starting an away derby, which is remarkable really.
Well he is a master tactician according to some recent comments.

Seriously though, I think you may be right in valuation. As structured as Koeman can be there may be a touch of an educated gamble today.

Personally I like it. There's little to lose.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 01, 2017, 04:20:54 PM
Henderson on Coleman in today's programme:
https://twitter.com/RichardBuxton_/status/848095165592080384

Fair play to them, no need to mention that really but it's a nice little touch.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 01, 2017, 04:22:18 PM
    So rumours would have this as the team?       

                  Joel
     Holgate Jags Williams
Pennington             Baines
         Davies   Gana
      Barkley            DCL
               Lukaku
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Shogun on April 01, 2017, 04:26:19 PM
Henderson on Coleman in today's programme:
https://twitter.com/RichardBuxton_/status/848095165592080384

Fuck Henderson and fuck Klopp.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 01, 2017, 04:27:33 PM
Henderson on Coleman in today's programme:
https://twitter.com/RichardBuxton_/status/848095165592080384

Cunt
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Optimistic Blue on April 01, 2017, 04:28:51 PM
    So rumours would have this as the team?       

                  Joel
     Holgate Jags Williams
Pennington             Baines
         Davies   Gana
      Barkley            DCL
               Lukaku

The Peoples Club :hail:
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TSGun on April 01, 2017, 04:31:39 PM
Why the disdain for Henderson's comments?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ball8y on April 01, 2017, 04:33:17 PM
Why the disdain for Henderson's comments?

Because he's a redshite cunt.  :woohoo:
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 01, 2017, 04:35:57 PM
Fair play to Henderson but he can still get fucked the goofy looking prick.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 01, 2017, 04:36:50 PM
Why the disdain for Henderson's comments?

cos he is a red cunt.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 01, 2017, 04:42:13 PM
    So rumours would have this as the team?       

                  Joel
     Holgate Jags Williams
Pennington             Baines
         Davies   Gana
      Barkley            DCL
               Lukaku

Be Holgate RB and Pennington CB?

Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Silas on April 01, 2017, 04:45:01 PM
Happy if it's that and we aren't shoe horning experienced players out of position.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on April 01, 2017, 04:55:39 PM
Happy if it's that and we aren't shoe horning experienced players out of position.

Experience at the back, pace, energy and enthusiasm in midfield and attack.  Ticks the right boxes for me.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on April 01, 2017, 05:00:05 PM
Pennington with Williams and Jags for experience either side is a brave but understandable move. He's young, mobile and according to Unsy talented and ready.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: ally2 on April 01, 2017, 05:00:31 PM
I'm very interested in how this team would perform. Even if it wasn't the derby. Can't wait
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 01, 2017, 05:08:47 PM
Be Holgate RB and Pennington CB?



Ah ok!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: hill135 on April 01, 2017, 05:10:02 PM
I thought Ron hated young players?

That's what Southampton fans said.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on April 01, 2017, 05:14:28 PM
I thought Ron hated young players?

That's what Southampton fans said.

He just hated shit ones.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: GLewis on April 01, 2017, 05:17:05 PM
Interesting. I wonder if Koeman's specifically going with some of the kids because they aren't scarred by previous losses, like some of the older boys. I know some of it, like Holgate, is born of necessity, but it could be that we have Davies, Pennington, Holgate and Calvert-Lewin all starting an away derby, which is remarkable really.

Think he likes some of them (Davies and DCL)  and doesn't think Barry can play this and Utd so is going for a formation that needs Pennington to play.

Utd will be the slower game so he'll play there I'd guess.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: ally2 on April 01, 2017, 05:19:14 PM
Please no one call him 'Penno'
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on April 01, 2017, 05:22:44 PM
Please no one call him 'Penno'

He can be called 'God' if we do them today
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 01, 2017, 05:24:14 PM
Please no one call him 'Penno'

He'll be our second penno at anfield in 80 odd years
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: GLewis on April 01, 2017, 05:24:31 PM
Went out for breakfast didn't think the rain was that bad but obviously got soaked.

Went to moose on Hope St which is opposite the Hope St hotel where they stay before all home games. I'd forgotten this until their bright red bus turned up to be greeted by a small bunch of replica gear wearing meffs.

Gave it a good booing. Under my breath obviously otherwise I'd have looked like a gimp in the restaurant.

There was a table of Norwegians in there too ( @Confucius (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=196) @TSGun (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4107) ;) ) complete with 50 year old men in football shirts, also standard.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ball8y on April 01, 2017, 05:25:55 PM
Please no one call him 'Penno'

Or indeed any of our squad with an "o" at the end. The fulll kit wankers do that for everyone at their vermin ridden club. Even the nutcase manager is being called Kloppo now. Pure gobshite behaviour.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TSGun on April 01, 2017, 05:26:49 PM
Went out for breakfast didn't think the rain was that bad but obviously got soaked.

Went to moose on Hope St which is opposite the Hope St hotel where they stay before all home games. I'd forgotten this until their bright red bus turned up to be greeted by a small bunch of replica gear wearing meffs.

Gave it a good booing. Under my breath obviously otherwise I'd have looked like a gimp in the restaurant.

There was a table of Norwegians in there too ( @Confucius (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=196) @TSGun (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4107) ;) ) complete with 50 year old men in football shirts, also standard.
Man, some of my best friends are from Norway. None are Liverpool supporters though. :)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: GLewis on April 01, 2017, 05:27:56 PM
Man, some of my best friends are from Norway. None are Liverpool supporters though. :)

They're probably closet Danes ;)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on April 01, 2017, 05:28:22 PM
Think he likes some of them (Davies and DCL)  and doesn't think Barry can play this and Utd so is going for a formation that needs Pennington to play.

Utd will be the slower game so he'll play there I'd guess.

Even though it doesn't always come off you've got to like the detail and thought he puts into every game individually. Refreshing.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 01, 2017, 05:29:15 PM
In fairness Ross Barkley calls Tom Davies 'Davo'.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 01, 2017, 05:29:35 PM
Haven't met or spoke to a single Liverpool fan that is remotely concerned about us. It's all about  how he will do this and he will do that. Matip will eat lukaku and Barkleys shit anyway

God, I don't ask a lot, please let us roll them today, you've already forced me into watching it by getting my game postponed today, gimme sommet back!!!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: BlueForYou on April 01, 2017, 05:31:09 PM
In for a Penny, in for a pound

Come on Matto.....................
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 01, 2017, 05:31:28 PM
3-5-2 it looks like. Lineup as predicted earlier in the thread.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on April 01, 2017, 05:32:36 PM
can't stand the sound of the voice on that Irish woman on SSN
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blob on April 01, 2017, 05:32:39 PM
any links? (apologies if i've missed them)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 01, 2017, 05:34:32 PM
Can and Lucas in centre mid for them. Not the strongest by any stretch.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Juanito on April 01, 2017, 05:34:44 PM
Surprised Lewin started over Mirallas.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 01, 2017, 05:35:10 PM
He'll be our second penno at anfield in 80 odd years

(https://media.tenor.co/images/173fc58cbf1e245cdce8610d2ee5a059/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on April 01, 2017, 05:36:00 PM
Not seen much of Pennington so can't really comment, but its a bit of a risk isn't it
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 01, 2017, 05:37:20 PM
What a mad team.

I would've put Mirallas in for DCL myself.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on April 01, 2017, 05:38:16 PM
Didn't Pennington get a run of games last season under Martinez. He did well until he got injured against Sunderland.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Toffee1 on April 01, 2017, 05:40:56 PM
Woud love a Graeme Sharp or Jags type goal in the first couple of minutes to shut them up - preferably from Ross or Davies being young local lads.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: GLewis on April 01, 2017, 05:41:09 PM
What a mad team.

I would've put Mirallas in for DCL myself.


I would have guessed at that.

Must want to be more physical up front.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 05:42:15 PM
Jags just interviewed and said Coleman had sent a rousing text to the lads to get them going for the game.

Can only begin to imagine what it said.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on April 01, 2017, 05:44:08 PM
Is Pennington really that mobile?

I remember that dreadful Leicester game and he got noticeably done for pace a few times, and not just by jet-heeled Mr.Punch
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 01, 2017, 05:45:06 PM
Jags just interviewed and said Coleman had sent a rousing text to the lads to get them going for the game.

Can only begin to imagine what it said.

I imagine it's not "Break a leg". sorry.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on April 01, 2017, 05:45:57 PM
I imagine it's not "Break a leg". sorry.

Beat me to it
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 01, 2017, 05:46:10 PM
where do you think Pennington will be position wise LC, Centre, RC   , twitter suggests Left Centre,   thought he was right footed,    but seems most logical     not putting him next to Holgate   
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Cereal Killer on April 01, 2017, 05:46:32 PM
Kone 90th minute winner all over it!!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 05:46:50 PM
Milner at left back? There's a player out of position to exploit.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: kewns23 on April 01, 2017, 05:47:49 PM
Kev not even on the bench ???
Not that am bothered like lol

Am looking forward too this 😄😄😄
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TSGun on April 01, 2017, 05:48:00 PM
They're probably closet Danes ;)
Haha I'll pass that on. :)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 01, 2017, 05:48:32 PM
Kev not even on the bench ???
Not that am bothered like lol

Am looking forward too this 😄😄😄

he is isnt he??
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: ally2 on April 01, 2017, 05:48:52 PM
Milner at left back? There's a player out of position to exploit.

Here's been playing there for years and has a lot of assists. Still a meat head though
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 05:49:33 PM
I'm not that confident with our line up to be honest.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TSGun on April 01, 2017, 05:50:33 PM
Couldn't care less about the line up....yeah just a tad rabid
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 01, 2017, 05:52:14 PM
I'm liking the lineup. Can't concede early though.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on April 01, 2017, 05:52:31 PM
Good line up from them. That front 3 like.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 01, 2017, 05:52:42 PM
I'm liking the lineup. Can't concede early though.

My dad just said the same. Concede early and i worry for a battering
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on April 01, 2017, 05:54:18 PM
I can't work out whether this optimism is just because of that line-up or a genuine feeling we might be able to do these. I actually smiled when I saw the teamsheet
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: GLewis on April 01, 2017, 05:58:09 PM
I can't work out whether this optimism is just because of that line-up or a genuine feeling we might be able to do these. I actually smiled when I saw the teamsheet

A lot less baggage in the team.

Raises hopes; whether that's fair or not we'll see but it's better than being resigned at the start!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 01, 2017, 05:59:04 PM
I just remembered I had a dream we conceded in the first minute. Shit! Why did I have to remember that.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on April 01, 2017, 06:02:07 PM
High risk - high reward with this lineup. The young boys may be nervous because they haven't started many games. However, hopefully their inexperience will help them not over think just because they are playing in the derby. Just treat it as a normal match
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: hannu on April 01, 2017, 06:05:47 PM
any links guys
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 01, 2017, 06:07:41 PM
I thought Ron hated young players?

That's what Southampton fans said.

He hates their shite young players
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 06:08:55 PM
Here's been playing there for years and has a lot of assists. Still a meat head though

Oh has he? He's more of a utility than Phil Neville then.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 01, 2017, 06:09:34 PM
Maybe I'm biased but you look at the 2 teams and I genuinely think we are better than them. Nothing to fear today and going forwards I don't think it will take much to go past them in next seasons league
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sirblue57 on April 01, 2017, 06:09:53 PM
This on kodi?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: chang on April 01, 2017, 06:12:42 PM
Milner at left back? There's a player out of position to exploit.

http://www.espnfc.co.uk/club/liverpool/364/blog/post/2966686/james-milner-a-revelation-at-left-back-for-jurgen-klopp-and-liverpool
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: School of Science on April 01, 2017, 06:13:19 PM
Is this the youngest ever derby team ? Please just win.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on April 01, 2017, 06:15:37 PM
Horrible cliche and fuckin obvious but first goal is huge with this team.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on April 01, 2017, 06:18:10 PM
A chance for some kids to grab a bit of history to start their careers off with.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: BlueNoseMike on April 01, 2017, 06:18:25 PM
Been feeling more confident, gutted Schneiderlin's not made it. Different ball game if he starts in there. Least we've won the total local lads/academy lads score today*



*If it meant winning I'd have 11 new zealanders in the team for all I care btw. Just good to see the results of a good academy.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TSGun on April 01, 2017, 06:18:44 PM
Not sure if I should admit this but Klopp's beard is identical to mine.

He's a handsome bastard from the nose down. :)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Gumpinio on April 01, 2017, 06:19:20 PM
I can't see us getting anything today.  Loads of young and inexperienced players going to anfield can't end well
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: hannu on April 01, 2017, 06:20:55 PM
any links guys?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blob on April 01, 2017, 06:21:37 PM
I can't see us getting anything today.  Loads of young and inexperienced players going to anfield can't end well

nothing like a bit of confidence :)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: hannu on April 01, 2017, 06:21:52 PM
http://www.eplsite.org/stream4.html
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 01, 2017, 06:22:49 PM
I hate this game.

Fucking shite. It's 12:30 on a Saturday and my heads everywhere.

Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueski on April 01, 2017, 06:23:21 PM
Concede more than we score and I'm afraid we might lose
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pjk on April 01, 2017, 06:24:10 PM
<iframe width="854" height="480" src="
frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>



Let's go blues. ;D
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 01, 2017, 06:24:18 PM
Worst day of the year

Come on you blue bastards
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pjk on April 01, 2017, 06:25:31 PM
Worst day of the year

Come on you blue bastards




Mad isn't it. lolol
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheTone on April 01, 2017, 06:25:50 PM
this fucking song now, jesus christ
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: dazfrancis on April 01, 2017, 06:26:21 PM
Streams?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Fynci on April 01, 2017, 06:27:03 PM
Win, lose or draw. Koeman has balls of steel for picking that team!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 06:27:47 PM
fuck Klopp and fuck their jerkoff song
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Fynci on April 01, 2017, 06:28:12 PM
this fucking song now, jesus christ

FN+F10 - Useful shortcut for Mac owners.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheTone on April 01, 2017, 06:28:21 PM
shove yere scarves up yere arses
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Optimistic Blue on April 01, 2017, 06:28:57 PM
Come on Blues CUNT ON THEM, FUCKING CUNT ON THEM
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 06:29:35 PM
http://www.espnfc.co.uk/club/liverpool/364/blog/post/2966686/james-milner-a-revelation-at-left-back-for-jurgen-klopp-and-liverpool

Let's hope he stops being a revelation today then.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Gash on April 01, 2017, 06:29:57 PM
This thread. ;)

(http://fr.ubergizmo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/shutterstock_974577.jpg)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: farnhamtoffee on April 01, 2017, 06:30:22 PM
Streams ????????????????
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pjk on April 01, 2017, 06:31:08 PM
I used to like Daniel Craig. Anyone else see him? :)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pjk on April 01, 2017, 06:31:27 PM
http://cricfree.sc/watch/live/liverpool-vs-everton-live-streaming
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: MarcusFenix on April 01, 2017, 06:34:43 PM
I used to like Daniel Craig. Anyone else see him? :)

My favourite Bond :-(

I f*cking hate watching the derby on TV !!!!!!!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 06:36:17 PM
Hope he has to go off injured/
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: hannu on April 01, 2017, 06:36:32 PM
Streams?


http://www.eplsite.org/stream4.html
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blob on April 01, 2017, 06:36:54 PM
any working streams? thanks.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 06:37:16 PM
Rom has shown up angry, that's good
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sirblue57 on April 01, 2017, 06:37:18 PM
Hope he has to go off injured/
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Hope he has to go off injured/

Who daniel Craig?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 01, 2017, 06:37:22 PM
Lucas asking for a card The fukin arse suckin cunt
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 06:37:55 PM
Barkley needs to stay on his feet for the rest of the half.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 01, 2017, 06:38:03 PM
That's horrible defending
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 06:38:05 PM
Fucking hell
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 01, 2017, 06:38:08 PM
Fuck.off
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 06:38:09 PM
Shit.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheTone on April 01, 2017, 06:38:21 PM
standard, cannibal headed cunt
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: chang on April 01, 2017, 06:38:33 PM
Let's hope he stops being a revelation today then.

Bit like playing anywhere to get in the school team ......
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 01, 2017, 06:38:43 PM
Needs to calm down does Barkley. He could have been booked twice in 6 minutes. Least hurt someone if youre gonna fly in
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 01, 2017, 06:38:48 PM
Terrible positioning from Joel
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 01, 2017, 06:38:53 PM
That is appalling goalkeeping also.

Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Gumpinio on April 01, 2017, 06:39:23 PM
We're not winning this, I just hope we are not completely humiliated and no gets sent off
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 06:39:30 PM
godfuckingdamnit.  a shambles
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Optimistic Blue on April 01, 2017, 06:40:03 PM
poor defensive communication there
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 01, 2017, 06:40:04 PM
Bad all round but terrible keeping
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: hannu on April 01, 2017, 06:40:07 PM
fuck off, game over already, fucking woeful
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pjk on April 01, 2017, 06:40:13 PM
Poor defending that.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: djws1788 on April 01, 2017, 06:40:13 PM
how do we always fucking bottle this
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Danny on April 01, 2017, 06:40:13 PM
I don't know why I even watch this shit, what a fucking waste of time.

By far the better side for the first 8 minutes up to that as well.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on April 01, 2017, 06:40:26 PM
That is appalling goalkeeping also.

Not so sure, he's covering his front post because there's no way that shot should be getting through to the back post
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 01, 2017, 06:40:39 PM
Dreadful defending. All very well blaming the keeper but he wanders through with about 5 blue shirts round him. Dreadful
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on April 01, 2017, 06:40:52 PM
Pennington fault
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 06:41:09 PM
Terrible positioning but very week from Jagielka and Williams.

Need Lukaku to get in the game.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 01, 2017, 06:41:22 PM
The young lads are struggling
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on April 01, 2017, 06:41:25 PM
first shot, in it goes, what a surprise  :headbang:
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: dazfrancis on April 01, 2017, 06:41:30 PM
Weak
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: hannu on April 01, 2017, 06:42:15 PM
Pennington fault

he shouldnt even be in the game, not ready for a match like this
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: griff969 on April 01, 2017, 06:42:26 PM
You have to wonder why they are always up for derbies and we are not?

Rabbits caught in the headlights at the moment
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 01, 2017, 06:42:35 PM
We need to press and we need to use the ball when we get it. Letting them have it and then just giving it them straight back
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 01, 2017, 06:42:37 PM
They are getting Firmino, Mane, Coutinho lined up 3v3 vs our three centre backs which is not good
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 06:43:13 PM
The young lads are struggling

Wouldn't single anyone out.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on April 01, 2017, 06:43:28 PM
One day, one day we are going to show up for this game...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Robioto on April 01, 2017, 06:43:35 PM
What a fucking surprise...

Getting tired of losing to these cunts.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on April 01, 2017, 06:43:38 PM
We're looking for Lukaku too early, need to just keep the ball and settle down
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 06:44:05 PM
wonder if we will even get a shot on target
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on April 01, 2017, 06:44:18 PM
What a fucking surprise...

Getting tired of losing to these cunts.

yeah it's just boring now
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on April 01, 2017, 06:44:46 PM
It's a curse.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 01, 2017, 06:45:31 PM
he shouldnt even be in the game, not ready for a match like this
  yup...feel for the lad
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Paddockoldie on April 01, 2017, 06:45:40 PM
Kings of the lucky bounce these cunts... need to keep the ball and stop sloppy passes.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on April 01, 2017, 06:45:55 PM
We're looking for Lukaku too early, need to just keep the ball and settle down

And his first touch today is so far shite.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on April 01, 2017, 06:46:13 PM
We very rarely seems to get any luck in this fixture and we certainly don't have the mentality for it.

They would win with their under 18's playing
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Brownie20 on April 01, 2017, 06:46:20 PM
Fucking hell you defeatists cunts. It's 1-0 FFS. Get behind them.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Danny on April 01, 2017, 06:46:38 PM
  yup...feel for the lad

I don't particularly and sorry if it makes me seem heartless, he's getting to play in a merseyside derby when based on ability he never should have.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 06:47:40 PM
Dominic forgot to strike FFS
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 06:47:53 PM
That was a chance from Baines' cross.

Need to get a shot on goal here to at least give them something to think about.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 01, 2017, 06:48:23 PM
Pennington isn't playing that bad.

Just showing some early nerves.

We've stated to settle into it now
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: hannu on April 01, 2017, 06:49:04 PM
I don't particularly and sorry if it makes me seem heartless, he's getting to play in a merseyside derby when based on ability he never should have.

he has been chucked in the deep end tho
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: hannu on April 01, 2017, 06:49:36 PM
Pennington isn't playing that bad.

Just showing some early nerves.

We've stated to settle into it now

prefer to settle before we are losing
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Cuttyblue on April 01, 2017, 06:49:59 PM
It's a curse.

Been saying this awhile.  Anyway, no expectations from this match with the injuries we've sustained and our derby record.

Let's slog through this and move on. 
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 06:49:59 PM
Jags anticipated Joel would fuck up.  Thank God.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 06:50:00 PM
Too easy from Coutinho's perspective.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 01, 2017, 06:50:03 PM
Pennington doesn't look ready
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blob on April 01, 2017, 06:51:20 PM
any reliable stream?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on April 01, 2017, 06:51:30 PM
If he doesn't settle soon then Koeman will have to hook Pennington, it would kill his confidence but he's been given the run around so far
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 06:51:39 PM
Our reaction is a good microcosm.  If it's this much in our heads, imagine how much it is in the team's...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 06:51:41 PM
Pennington doesn't look ready

I think we should have gone 433 with Barry in the center. He has the maturity that's needed in a game like this.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Danny on April 01, 2017, 06:52:00 PM
he has been chucked in the deep end tho

Yeah I agree with that, I won't be making him a scapegoat if he has a bad game or anything like that but I just don't feel bad for him.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 06:52:06 PM
But we miss Schneiderlin so much. Need his cool head. We have no leader out there.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 01, 2017, 06:52:35 PM
its terrible is this. They are playing in 10 yards of space
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 01, 2017, 06:53:08 PM
I don't particularly and sorry if it makes me seem heartless, he's getting to play in a merseyside derby when based on ability he never should have.
   know what you mean, they all have to fuckin show more bottle though
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 06:53:38 PM
There hasn't been much between the sides. They have the goal though so clearly they'll be a lot happier. I'd like us to start creating some opportunities though.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 06:54:06 PM
But we miss Schneiderlin so much. Need his cool head. We have no leader out there.

Exactly.  Without him, think we were boned either way (Barry or Pennington).
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on April 01, 2017, 06:54:51 PM
We have too many players that has not had enough game time together.
Injuries has hit us harder than them.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 06:56:36 PM
When was the last time Baines took a good free kick? Given our opportunities that was a big waste.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on April 01, 2017, 06:57:20 PM
any reliable stream?

If you really want to see us get mullered pay the £6.99 and watch it on Sky.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 06:57:34 PM
youngest XI started in the Prem this season, per NBC.  In the Derby, at Anfield.  This was a tall order.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on April 01, 2017, 06:58:02 PM
When was the last time Baines took a good free kick? Given our opportunities that was a big waste.

Lukaku should be taking them, he's quite consistent at hitting the target
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on April 01, 2017, 06:58:32 PM
YEeeeeeees!!!!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 06:58:41 PM
get in PENNINGTON!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 06:58:41 PM
Ha! Get in!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 06:58:43 PM
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheTone on April 01, 2017, 06:58:47 PM
get in
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 01, 2017, 06:58:50 PM
Yayayayayaya
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TSGun on April 01, 2017, 06:59:02 PM
Fucking beautiful
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Brownie20 on April 01, 2017, 06:59:03 PM
Fucking have that
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 01, 2017, 06:59:14 PM
HAAAaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on April 01, 2017, 06:59:23 PM
PENNINGTON!

love you boy!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: MarcusFenix on April 01, 2017, 06:59:37 PM
Fucking fucking fucking yessssssss
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on April 01, 2017, 06:59:39 PM
Haha, had to be him!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 06:59:49 PM
WE scored on a CORNER at ANFIELD??
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on April 01, 2017, 06:59:55 PM
That goal was Penningtons fault :P
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 01, 2017, 07:00:04 PM
My stream must be a little behind. Get the fuck in!!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pjk on April 01, 2017, 07:00:09 PM
Penno!!! ;D
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on April 01, 2017, 07:00:26 PM
Lukaku is shit. Thrown in too early, poor lad...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: hannu on April 01, 2017, 07:00:29 PM
the lad just redeameed himself there
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: dazfrancis on April 01, 2017, 07:00:31 PM
Yyeeesss!!!!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Fynci on April 01, 2017, 07:00:37 PM
Nobody in the world would have a bet on Pennington being a scorer today. Amazing!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 01, 2017, 07:00:38 PM
love    pennington.......MASTERFUL KOEMAN
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on April 01, 2017, 07:00:43 PM
Fuck me! 😃
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on April 01, 2017, 07:00:44 PM
Fucking hell you defeatists cunts. It's 1-0 FFS. Get behind them.

Amen.

http://aclee.xyz/nbcsn

Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Gash on April 01, 2017, 07:01:22 PM
The Pennington Derby!!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: duncandisorderly on April 01, 2017, 07:01:25 PM
Fuck sake
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 01, 2017, 07:01:25 PM
Love Jags
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lincs Toffee on April 01, 2017, 07:01:34 PM
Fuck off cunt!!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 07:01:36 PM
Crap.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 07:01:40 PM
well that was short-lived
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Robioto on April 01, 2017, 07:01:44 PM
Get in! Thank god for that. Made up for Pennington.

EDIT: Bollocks...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 07:01:47 PM
Just too easy.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheTone on April 01, 2017, 07:01:52 PM
quality that to be fair, ffs
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on April 01, 2017, 07:02:02 PM
FFS

how many of these chances are we gonig to give them!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 01, 2017, 07:02:03 PM
Jesus christ
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheTone on April 01, 2017, 07:02:24 PM
any one for a 3-3
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 01, 2017, 07:02:32 PM
Gueye should be taking him down there
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 01, 2017, 07:02:32 PM
Same old this lads.

Some players legs have gone. The midfield is non existent.

Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bally on April 01, 2017, 07:02:33 PM
Fuck me sideways
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 07:02:35 PM
weak from Williams
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 01, 2017, 07:02:45 PM
SUICIDE BLUES......
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: dazfrancis on April 01, 2017, 07:02:46 PM
Fuck off
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 01, 2017, 07:02:56 PM
we arent really playing with a defence are we. Just back off until they fancy a shot
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 07:03:04 PM
We clearly need new defenders.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: hannu on April 01, 2017, 07:03:10 PM
fuck off
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lincs Toffee on April 01, 2017, 07:03:22 PM
We need to change this and tighten up in midfield somehow, they are running us ragged in there at the minute
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 01, 2017, 07:03:31 PM
any one for a 3-3
   I'LL TAKE IT
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 07:03:43 PM
Glad Pennington scored, as he should've done better there. Already had a warning.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bally on April 01, 2017, 07:03:53 PM
Feel sorry for Matty Pennington here, he's gonna be the fall guy here
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 01, 2017, 07:04:22 PM
It's not the defence that's the problem.

They've actually defended quite well on the whole.

It's the midfield getting bypassed everytime.

Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: hannu on April 01, 2017, 07:04:31 PM
get pennington off he is shite
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 07:04:51 PM
We clearly need new defenders.

Williams is badly exposed in this setup.  He's cover, not starter-material.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: griff969 on April 01, 2017, 07:05:04 PM
Too easy again. Doesn't he always cut in on his right? Why show him inside?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: dazfrancis on April 01, 2017, 07:05:04 PM
Barkley and Calvert lewin need to tuck in and help out gueye and Davies
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 01, 2017, 07:05:32 PM
It's not the defence that's the problem.

They've actually defended quite well on the whole.

It's the midfield getting bypassed everytime.



Standing off a bit but your right the main problem is theres so much space they are just walking through the middle of us
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 01, 2017, 07:05:40 PM
Baines having a laugh there

Glad you're enjoying yourself mate
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 07:05:52 PM
Control the fucking ball.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on April 01, 2017, 07:06:37 PM
Cruelty is lovelier when hope has briefly surfaced
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 07:06:42 PM
get pennington off he is shite

Stop it.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Paddockoldie on April 01, 2017, 07:06:54 PM
Need to stop these running at our ragged defence. They shoot whilst we pass.. got to tighten up here though..
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: christiffa25 on April 01, 2017, 07:07:14 PM
Pennington is really struggling. Too big of a game too soon for the lad.

Get Barry into the back 3
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 01, 2017, 07:07:23 PM
Fuck off saying that was a stamp
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 07:07:54 PM
Anthony Taylor isn't even fucking us today.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Paddockoldie on April 01, 2017, 07:08:04 PM
DCL is out of his depth... get Valencia on to support Rom.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Danny on April 01, 2017, 07:09:02 PM
Pennington is really struggling. Too big of a game too soon for the lad.

Get Barry into the back 3

He's 22, it's too big of a game ever for him.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 01, 2017, 07:09:26 PM
Midfield has been terrible. Not 1 of them have had a remotely okay half
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 07:10:00 PM
We're going to end up with a couple sent off here if this keeps up.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on April 01, 2017, 07:10:25 PM
Pennington is really struggling. Too big of a game too soon for the lad.

Get Barry into the back 3

Barry would be destroyed by their front 3

We could move holgate into the 3 and bring Kenny on at right back. At the very least Holgate is more mobile than Pennington
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 01, 2017, 07:10:30 PM
Making um look world fukin beaters at the mo.....
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 01, 2017, 07:10:46 PM
Fuck off, that is not a red. He pulled out of it
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 07:10:47 PM
We're going to end up with a couple sent off here if this keeps up.

I'd take Ross off for Kev to protect him from himself.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 07:10:53 PM
For all these hard tackles I'm just gutted none of lads have managed to get one of theirs off injured.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 01, 2017, 07:11:11 PM
Barkley has stank so far and could have been booked 3 times. His touch there was amateur
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: christiffa25 on April 01, 2017, 07:11:31 PM
Barry would be destroyed by their front 3

We could move holgate into the 3 and bring Kenny on at right back. At the very least Holgate is more mobile than Pennington

Aye that would do too
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on April 01, 2017, 07:11:34 PM
For all these hard tackles I'm just gutted none of lads have managed to get one of theirs off injured.

I'm amazed Lovren was ok coming out of that, could have easily broken his ankle there
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lincs Toffee on April 01, 2017, 07:12:17 PM
Can't see 22 leaving the field after 90 mins here at this rate
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Gumpinio on April 01, 2017, 07:12:19 PM
We're going to end up with a couple sent off here if this keeps up.

We could have had two sent off already.

I was feeling negative before kick off, I had 2 minutes of hope after the equalizer, and now I feel more negative than ever
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: griff969 on April 01, 2017, 07:12:31 PM
Lovrens playacting is comical
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: christiffa25 on April 01, 2017, 07:13:02 PM
Fuck off, that is not a red. He pulled out of it

It was just a natural progression. Clearly his natural stride and momentum took him into him
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 07:13:23 PM
I'm amazed Lovren was ok coming out of that, could have easily broken his ankle there

If it was one of our players, it would have broke. And their player wouldn't even have got booked.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 01, 2017, 07:13:40 PM
It was just a natural progression. Clearly his natural stride and momentum took him into him
A yellow for sure but saying it's a red is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 01, 2017, 07:13:56 PM
Deffo a red coming in this game though.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 01, 2017, 07:14:01 PM
It's a red all day
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 07:15:43 PM
God Robles. Just take it in your box.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 07:15:45 PM
It's a red all day

Nah, should've been a second yellow though.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 07:16:46 PM
Nah, should've been a second yellow though.

yeah had he rightfully been on a yellow that doesn't slide
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 01, 2017, 07:17:09 PM
Pennington really is out of his depth. He was backing away again there.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 07:18:00 PM
Jags is the only defender who can hold his head up.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Gash on April 01, 2017, 07:18:36 PM
Klopp showing his 'passion' with the fourth official again. The insufferable cunt.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheTone on April 01, 2017, 07:18:48 PM
we're a bit shit but still in the game here
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on April 01, 2017, 07:19:10 PM
We're still in it at half time, and we'll struggle to play any worse in the second half
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 01, 2017, 07:19:25 PM
They've got too much time and space

Coutinho is in acres all the time

Barkleys way to pumped up for it too

Not sure the three at the back was the answer

Let's see what happens second half
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on April 01, 2017, 07:19:35 PM
I'm amazed Lovren was ok coming out of that, could have easily broken his ankle there

May well swell up at half time.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 01, 2017, 07:19:39 PM
we're a bit shit but still in the game here

I don't think we've been too bad to be honest.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 07:19:47 PM
I hope that was our bad half.

Can see where we have to strenghten in the summer in games like this. I wonder if we'll ever beat them again though?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on April 01, 2017, 07:19:52 PM
Change it at half time, feel for Pennington here
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on April 01, 2017, 07:20:00 PM
Inexperience showing unfortunately.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 01, 2017, 07:20:45 PM
feel sorry for Pennington

need to go 4 at the back and also put Mirallas on the right
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: caliburn53 on April 01, 2017, 07:20:57 PM
According to the red shite loving bbc there is only one team on the pitch
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on April 01, 2017, 07:21:09 PM
Pennington off, mirallas on
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: schleffera on April 01, 2017, 07:21:52 PM
This ain't over. Midfield needs to give more protection, Mirallas for DCL, more disciplined running from him, tucking back closing the gap behind him. Barry for Pennington, back 4.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 01, 2017, 07:22:03 PM
Coutinho is loving lining himself up for a run at Pennington. We can't let that happen, he's going to take him each time.

Feel sorry for the lad because I'm not sure he's ready for this. Not his fault though, needs more support from either Williams or the CM in front of him.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 07:22:09 PM
Barry for Pennington (half)
Mirallas for Barkley (half)
Lookman for DCL (eventually)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 01, 2017, 07:22:29 PM
lucky to have 11 men still on the pitch.

Barkley needs to wake up and give Lukaku a nudge as well to get out of bed.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 07:22:55 PM
Poor first half.

Would say it can only get better, but history tells us it usually gets worse.

Need to rework things here as we're not really creating much.

Don't think either side have been impressive though. They've had a couple of good individual moments, coupled with poor defending on our part.

Would prefer to keep Barkley on but he's one bad touch away from getting sent off.

Big half coming up, particularly if we have any aspirations of finishing higher up the table than we currently are.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on April 01, 2017, 07:23:01 PM
Ronald will sort it
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pjk on April 01, 2017, 07:23:41 PM
Not too bad with all the youngsters. Matthew pennington's a little bit short of premier experience. He's been lacking on a few occasions and we need to think about  a replacement. I'm not sure who to replace him with but he's a weak link just now. On the score sheet though. :)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 01, 2017, 07:23:49 PM
Yea Barkley and Lukaku haven't been at it. Think Barkley is almost too pumped up.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: School of Science on April 01, 2017, 07:24:03 PM
Looks like we have sacrificed a midfielder for a defender, we are losing the midfield and giving them too much room, but I can't see Barry making much difference. Got a horrible feeling we will be down to 10 men soon, the way they writhe around in agony and surround the ref, it's a matter of time. Barkley is lucky to still be on. But surely Can and Lucas should have a yellow each.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 01, 2017, 07:24:28 PM
hoping Koeman smashes Klopp in the face at some point in the second half

just walks over and smashes him square on the chin then walks off down the tunnel flicking the V's

(day four of not smoking is going well)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Juanito on April 01, 2017, 07:25:00 PM
4-3-3

Barry for Pennington

Mirallas for DCL and game on.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: charlatan on April 01, 2017, 07:25:48 PM
Absolute shite.  Standard Anfield performance.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 07:25:53 PM
hoping Koeman smashes Klopp in the face at some point in the second half

just walks over and smashes him square on the chin then walks off down the tunnel flicking the V's

(day four of not smoking is going well)

Before a Derby?  That's madness.  You will kill someone before the day is over (and no jury would ever convict you).
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 01, 2017, 07:25:56 PM
He playing poorly and the important thing is obviously the football

But I do love a scouser like Barkley going round throwing in shithouse tackles in a derby.

Needs to swerve it second half though
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Buck76 on April 01, 2017, 07:25:59 PM
Need to revert to 433 & Pennington / DCL off Barry & Mirralas on for me.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on April 01, 2017, 07:26:26 PM
Souness spot on, Barkley neglecting his defensive duties and watching players run off him.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 01, 2017, 07:27:32 PM
Thought DCL was our best player.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Confucius on April 01, 2017, 07:27:38 PM
According to the red shite loving bbc there is only one team on the pitch

To be fair, there is only one. We have been dreadful. lucky to be 1 behind. Pennington off and Barry on. We need more in midfield and we need to keep hold of the ball. Mirallis for DCl at 60min
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TSGun on April 01, 2017, 07:28:01 PM
Pretty much an average game of football so far as a whole.

We've matched them for the most part but for the attacking third. Should have stopped the first goal except Robles was drawn out of position. Their second was good though. Barkley's lucky to be still out there.

Definitely not out of it and I'd expect Koeman to make some changes quite quickly this half.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 01, 2017, 07:28:18 PM
Fuck. Need to change some things id go 4 at the back....l
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: School of Science on April 01, 2017, 07:28:44 PM
DCL has done well but we need a better shape and more pace up front. Mirallas to start second half.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: hill135 on April 01, 2017, 07:28:45 PM
Barry for Pennington and go with a back four. DCL has been invisible so I'd be tempted to swap Kev in for him now but that would limit our options later in the game.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: BlueNoseMike on April 01, 2017, 07:28:51 PM
Thought DCL was our best player.

holds it up well doesn't he?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 01, 2017, 07:29:12 PM
He playing poorly and the important thing is obviously the football

But I do love a scouser like Barkley going round throwing in shithouse tackles in a derby.

Needs to swerve it second half though
Yea I was thinking the same. It's stupid but I also fucking love the local lad throwing in a wild tackle 5 minutes in.

Think he'll have to calm it down second half but don't think we can take him off. He's our best chance at creating something from nothing.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 07:29:26 PM
Thought DCL was our best player.

Wow. Didn't think he did much of anything (had plenty of competition in that department to be fair). Each to their own though.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on April 01, 2017, 07:29:26 PM
We'll win this. Would love a chance to boot Klopp in the bollocks. Insufferable cunt.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 07:29:34 PM
I'd say Jags was our best and it's not particularly close.  It would be a proper hiding without his efforts.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: schleffera on April 01, 2017, 07:30:16 PM
There's no point expecting Barkley to put in a defensive gritty hard work shift, if that's the role replace him as it's not his game. All that happens is he gets frustrated and flings in tackles and will be off after next one.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on April 01, 2017, 07:30:47 PM
Barkley is 100% nailed on cert to be sent off if he comes back on, surely Koeman sees that and you can bet that someone will be in Taylor's ear saying that yellow should have been a red.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: brap2 on April 01, 2017, 07:30:57 PM
Got us on toast here unfortunately, can't cope with coutinho and mane, too mobile.

We've no tempo setter in the middle of the park either, fucking emre can is running the game for gods sake.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 01, 2017, 07:31:13 PM
Best of all time that pot noodle advert....
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 01, 2017, 07:31:38 PM
holds it up well doesn't he?

Hardworking and his control is better than Lukakus.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueski on April 01, 2017, 07:32:02 PM
Really think he does need to make a change at the half here hopefully he does
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 07:32:17 PM
Hmm...no changes?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: schleffera on April 01, 2017, 07:32:32 PM
Got us on toast here unfortunately, can't cope with coutinho and mane, too mobile.

We've no tempo setter in the middle of the park either, fucking emre can is running the game for gods sake.
Schneiderlin a huge loss
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 07:32:44 PM
Concede another and it's game over.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueski on April 01, 2017, 07:32:45 PM
Nope
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 07:34:24 PM
Playing with fire, Koeman...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 07:35:34 PM
ugh, losing my mind
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lincs Toffee on April 01, 2017, 07:35:51 PM
Fuck that was lucky
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 07:35:53 PM
Robles' kicking has been poo.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 01, 2017, 07:36:15 PM
fuk me williams easier to fuckin score
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 07:37:04 PM
fuk me williams easier to fuckin score

Our chance? Nah he was stretching just to get there.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: schleffera on April 01, 2017, 07:37:44 PM
DCL started well
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 07:38:31 PM
Taylor unimpressed with the theatrics today.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ramjam on April 01, 2017, 07:39:52 PM
Worst performance since Chelsea
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 01, 2017, 07:40:05 PM
Get Barkley off
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 07:40:28 PM
piss off and die, Mane
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lincs Toffee on April 01, 2017, 07:40:37 PM
Barry coming on
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 07:40:47 PM
Good. Mane injured.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Gash on April 01, 2017, 07:41:35 PM
Is Lukaku still away on international duty?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 07:41:41 PM
Barkley just trying too hard. Whatever the reason though he's not playing well at the moment.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 01, 2017, 07:41:54 PM
Hope this is a two year job
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 01, 2017, 07:42:07 PM
It's James Brown!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lincs Toffee on April 01, 2017, 07:42:10 PM
Mane fucked so there could be a god
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ridge on April 01, 2017, 07:42:13 PM
Very unfortunate for Mane
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 07:42:17 PM
awwwww, poor baby. scoot your drama queen arse off the pitch.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ramjam on April 01, 2017, 07:42:47 PM
Get that fucker off
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: schleffera on April 01, 2017, 07:43:00 PM
Sniper
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 07:43:21 PM
Shame it didn't happen in the 6th minute.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 01, 2017, 07:43:32 PM
Can must be close to a yellow at this point
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 07:43:38 PM
Like Ross' "don't give a fuck" look on his face, too.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 07:43:42 PM
Very unfortunate for Mane

Who cares?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Danny on April 01, 2017, 07:44:05 PM
Why do we never get those massive deflections that go in
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: christiffa25 on April 01, 2017, 07:44:09 PM
10 or so very good games on the trot 1 game off it with the rest of the team and there's a big debate about Ross.

If only other England golden boys were watched and judged with such critism.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Gash on April 01, 2017, 07:44:18 PM
Top job Bainsey, could be the knee and ankle done there, a kind of two for the price of one thing.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: dazfrancis on April 01, 2017, 07:44:33 PM
Stating the bleeding obvious but we are also missing Coleman as an outlet
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: schleffera on April 01, 2017, 07:44:35 PM
Proper hard ball and all challenge from Baines, rather than a "hard" studs up tackle
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on April 01, 2017, 07:44:39 PM
Can must be close to a yellow at this point

As if, bro
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 07:45:48 PM
Nice from Barkley.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lincs Toffee on April 01, 2017, 07:46:01 PM
Better from Barkley
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 01, 2017, 07:46:16 PM
Get Barkley off

Keep him on
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: schleffera on April 01, 2017, 07:46:30 PM
We have this.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 07:46:40 PM
good work from Holgate...but Coleman would have shot
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ramjam on April 01, 2017, 07:46:49 PM
Should have hit it
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Gash on April 01, 2017, 07:46:59 PM
Lucas is another who can fuck off, the cunt.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: christiffa25 on April 01, 2017, 07:47:04 PM
Keep him on

Doesn't matter how he's playing he's always capable of that one minute of bossness
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lincs Toffee on April 01, 2017, 07:47:31 PM
Game over now ffs
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 07:47:33 PM
Fuck off
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 07:47:41 PM
Crap.

Game over.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 07:47:42 PM
now you take Ross off
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bally on April 01, 2017, 07:47:48 PM
Exactly what I expected
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 01, 2017, 07:47:48 PM
Wow that was awful
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: DanDan on April 01, 2017, 07:48:13 PM
Fucking useless keeper
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 07:48:15 PM
Awful, awful defending.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: duncandisorderly on April 01, 2017, 07:48:15 PM
Shite
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 07:48:21 PM
Cunts/
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 01, 2017, 07:48:26 PM
Wow that is horrendous goalkeeping
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 01, 2017, 07:48:28 PM
What a truly awful goal
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 01, 2017, 07:48:28 PM
Awful again from Joel
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on April 01, 2017, 07:48:38 PM
Fuck off Klopp you massive bellend.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 01, 2017, 07:48:40 PM
What the fuck is the keeper doing.

That's horrendous. Never seen keeping like it
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ramjam on April 01, 2017, 07:48:43 PM
We are so fuckin bad
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 07:48:50 PM
1st goal in last 13 Prem appearances.  OF COURSE
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 01, 2017, 07:48:58 PM
Bad all round but Joel was fucking pathetic there.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on April 01, 2017, 07:49:14 PM
Was gonna ask for a stream then but just seen its 3-1.

Never mind, we gave it a go did we? Dunno, we wont win there for a while
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 01, 2017, 07:49:17 PM
Sundi league stuff when it matters again...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheTone on April 01, 2017, 07:49:29 PM
tool of a keeper that Robles, always fucks up in these type of games
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on April 01, 2017, 07:49:33 PM
Pennington Holgate partnership on the right has been disastrous.

Bad from Koeman to put them two on the right together... but hindsight.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 07:49:42 PM
When you defend like that, you really have no chance.

Shame as we were playing better.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bally on April 01, 2017, 07:49:47 PM
Just fucking shite against these cunts again
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 01, 2017, 07:49:54 PM
Shambolic. Laughable. Cowardly. Is it Barkley that gives it away. Followed by about another 5 players who might as well not bet here doing the square route of fuck all. All round shite.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Gash on April 01, 2017, 07:50:21 PM
Where the fuck was Robles going, did he think he'd heard the final whistle or something?

Can we now please fuck off with this debate that some seem to think he's a capable number 1.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 01, 2017, 07:50:22 PM
Ashley Williams is fucking awful
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: DanDan on April 01, 2017, 07:50:25 PM
Any chance of a goalie that actually tries to dive
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: griff969 on April 01, 2017, 07:50:32 PM
Have our defenders and goalkeeper been given a bung? Was Joel trying to get out the way so he didn't have to make a save?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 01, 2017, 07:50:39 PM
Hope Can never walks again. Fucking hate him
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on April 01, 2017, 07:50:47 PM
Morgan being out was massive, absolutely monumental.

Never get any luck against these.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 01, 2017, 07:50:50 PM
Has Can lost his leg?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheTone on April 01, 2017, 07:51:11 PM
so can we actually create ONE chance from open play please, sound
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bally on April 01, 2017, 07:51:19 PM
The worst spate of defending since 2009 at Wembley
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: DanDan on April 01, 2017, 07:51:25 PM
Won the fucking ball first
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 07:51:31 PM
Ashley Williams is fucking awful

That was the first constructive thing he did all day.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on April 01, 2017, 07:51:46 PM
Williams having a stinker.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on April 01, 2017, 07:51:51 PM
Horrendous on all accounts.

Anyone else remember when Everton would show up for derby games?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pedrotheblue on April 01, 2017, 07:51:53 PM
I'd rather just give em 3 points than have to go through this twice a year
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: hill135 on April 01, 2017, 07:51:58 PM
Robles hasn't even motioned to make a save for any of the goals. woeful player
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheTone on April 01, 2017, 07:52:20 PM
still gonna be 3-3 lids
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on April 01, 2017, 07:52:27 PM
If there was any doubt we need two centre halves and goalkeeper in the summer then this is a graphic illustration.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on April 01, 2017, 07:52:38 PM
Not good enough from the senior players today.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: duncandisorderly on April 01, 2017, 07:52:44 PM
Why is Mirallas not being brought on
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bally on April 01, 2017, 07:52:45 PM
Just finish this now ffs
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 01, 2017, 07:52:48 PM
How much of a pussy is enre can? He was crying 30 seconds ago despite there being fuck all wrong
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on April 01, 2017, 07:52:50 PM
2 new center backs and a good goalie.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Paddockoldie on April 01, 2017, 07:53:04 PM
You can't blame Robles for that when he had defender near him... the fuckin room he had then was shocking. We're making this so easy for them...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Juanito on April 01, 2017, 07:53:13 PM
Poor from Koeman not changing it at half time. Holgate and Pennington on the right reminds me of Osman and Hibbert in the cup final. No point.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 01, 2017, 07:53:14 PM
I'd take the 3-1 right now
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: griff969 on April 01, 2017, 07:53:37 PM
If Can does not get subbed he should be booked for play acting. Both players slid in, Can just squealed more
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 01, 2017, 07:53:38 PM
Ashley Williams is fucking awful
  He fukin is shite not on his own but where are all theese players we need gonna be found
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: christiffa25 on April 01, 2017, 07:53:39 PM
Williams having a stinker.

Yep because he's shit
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on April 01, 2017, 07:54:09 PM
If I have to hear another voiceover from one of those cunts from studio.  :headbang:
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bally on April 01, 2017, 07:54:17 PM
Barry and Valencia for Davies and Pennington

Well he's going shit or bust isn't he
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 01, 2017, 07:54:19 PM
You can't blame Robles for that when he had defender near him... the fuckin room he had then was shocking. We're making this so easy for them...
He shot the ball right at him! It was pathetic goalkeeping. I could have fucking saved that!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Danny on April 01, 2017, 07:54:20 PM
At least with all their injuries the twat who made that Sturridge dance with Coleman's legs gif is getting his comeuppance.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Gash on April 01, 2017, 07:54:20 PM
I like the change of tactics, injure our way to victory.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on April 01, 2017, 07:54:28 PM
I'm hoping by next season we will have an Everton team with better players available.

If we can bring in players with a winning and fearless mentality in the summer that would be great.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 01, 2017, 07:54:44 PM
Been absolutely inept has this. Barkley and Davies have both been terrible. The defenders comical. lukakus barely touched it. Losing is 1 thing. Turning up for 1 of these would be nice though.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on April 01, 2017, 07:54:47 PM
Barry will get sent off
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 01, 2017, 07:54:49 PM
Bit Moyes of Koeman to make the change after we concede the inevitable goal
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on April 01, 2017, 07:54:52 PM
20 minutes too late Ronald. Get in the corner.........
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ridge on April 01, 2017, 07:55:05 PM
Time to change this around. Atleast should be able to pose more of an attacking threat now.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ramjam on April 01, 2017, 07:55:22 PM
Guys Lukaku needs to be sold, we need about 6 new players who can run at defenders like these cunts do
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on April 01, 2017, 07:55:24 PM
Should have changed it at HT. Too late.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on April 01, 2017, 07:55:50 PM
Yep because he's shit

He's an absolute myth
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lincs Toffee on April 01, 2017, 07:56:54 PM
Unlucky Holgate there
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bally on April 01, 2017, 07:57:05 PM
Better....
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 07:57:05 PM
Free header missed.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 07:57:19 PM
Had Lukaku kept playing, he would have tapped in that howler from Holgate...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 07:57:39 PM
That was a chance. Not sure what Lukaku was doing.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on April 01, 2017, 07:57:43 PM
I think for twice a season Joe Royle should be in the dugout regardless who the manager is.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Gash on April 01, 2017, 07:57:50 PM
About fucking time Can got booked.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Paddockoldie on April 01, 2017, 07:58:29 PM
He shot the ball right at him! It was pathetic goalkeeping. I could have fucking saved that!

It was a free shot mate. Players at this level ain't missing gifts and that's what he got. Robles isn't great he'd have to be Southall to do better there.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on April 01, 2017, 07:59:08 PM
Not happening for Ross at all
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 07:59:08 PM
Look much better since the subs.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 01, 2017, 07:59:16 PM
Booking for deliberate handball isn't it?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ramjam on April 01, 2017, 07:59:22 PM
Get Barkley off to Spurs
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 01, 2017, 07:59:48 PM
How is that not a yellow?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 01, 2017, 08:00:13 PM
Valencia always makes things happen, one of our better players so obviously shouldn't start....
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 08:00:52 PM
Holgate having a nice 10 minutes
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on April 01, 2017, 08:01:02 PM
I hope someone breaks klopps stupid face
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on April 01, 2017, 08:03:09 PM
Mirallas should have started today. He is a far better player DCL.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 08:03:36 PM
Lukaku just not at it today.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 08:04:02 PM
and of course Joel sees and gets THAT one...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 08:04:41 PM
Roebles finally moves for something.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: schleffera on April 01, 2017, 08:05:11 PM
Lukaku has been shit, yet ironically this will be presented as further evidence why he needs to leave Everton
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 08:05:31 PM
Lost our momentum again. Such as it was.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 08:05:39 PM
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: christiffa25 on April 01, 2017, 08:06:03 PM
15 mins left and they have given up
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 08:07:15 PM
15 mins left and they have given up

I mean, so have I, but I ain't gettin' paid...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on April 01, 2017, 08:07:37 PM
Don't be too down lads, next time you are in the supermarket, and you hear the beep, think of the fun you could be having on.....SUPERMARKET SWEEP!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 01, 2017, 08:07:50 PM
Lukaku back on fukin strike...fuk me he's a lazy twat when no personal glory to be had...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 08:08:25 PM
Totally lost our way right now. Last sub?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: duncandisorderly on April 01, 2017, 08:08:53 PM
Should have started today, puzzling
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on April 01, 2017, 08:09:27 PM
Robles hasn't even motioned to make a save for any of the goals. woeful player

Hardly at fault. Lots of other players deserve your blame today. Not Robles.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bwana on April 01, 2017, 08:09:45 PM
Just generally poor. Our right flank has been feeble, Ross has been rubbish and... Seriously. Is there a player who deserves more than 5 from this? Mirallas in. I'm putting a tenner on red.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ramjam on April 01, 2017, 08:09:56 PM
Last 10 mins this is where Lukaku comes to life
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 08:10:02 PM
Barkley just wants this game to end.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 08:10:08 PM
Without Schneiderlin, there was no magic lineup to pick the lock today.  This wasn't close.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: schleffera on April 01, 2017, 08:10:42 PM
Rope a dope; gonna kill em the last 10.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 01, 2017, 08:10:42 PM
We need a fukin bell in the ball.....
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 01, 2017, 08:11:17 PM
barkley has been really shite. No discipline in his game today at all. Played like hes retarded
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Cuttyblue on April 01, 2017, 08:11:21 PM
Koeman really got it wrong today.  Looking back, I'm not sure how that lineup and formation had any chance whatsoever for a point?  Like the Chelsea beating.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on April 01, 2017, 08:11:29 PM
Two recent away games against rivals, 6 goals conceded and two very limp performances.

We're not as close as we seem to think.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on April 01, 2017, 08:11:36 PM
Roebles finally moves for something.

Was thinking the same about Lukaku. Total lack of movement by all apart from those in red. The refs a cunt as well.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ramjam on April 01, 2017, 08:11:57 PM
Anybody think Southgate was right?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on April 01, 2017, 08:12:09 PM
James McCarthy -- wtf is he doing with his body. Been absolutely irresponsible with Ireland all season long. I have decided that I am going to blame him for this game.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on April 01, 2017, 08:12:22 PM
You have got to wonder about Mirallas character.
Falling down the pecking order with Moyes, Martinez and now Koeman.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: dazfrancis on April 01, 2017, 08:12:57 PM
This game just shows mentally we are miles away from where we need to be to challenge the top lot. Poor decision making and play has cost us today

We need to overcome mental hurdles like this to kick on.

Also Koeman got it tactically wrong, Barry should have played
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on April 01, 2017, 08:13:03 PM
Barkley just wants this game to end.
Or next England game to start.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 08:13:30 PM
Lukaku's beard looks like shit.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on April 01, 2017, 08:13:52 PM
What is a foul there you tit?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on April 01, 2017, 08:14:07 PM
For an apparently world class player, Lukaku has done really well to squeeze into Dejan Lovren's pocket
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on April 01, 2017, 08:14:24 PM
Koeman really got it wrong today.  Looking back, I'm not sure how that lineup and formation had any chance whatsoever for a point?  Like the Chelsea beating.

Agreed. Awful selection. Was asking for this sort of result.

Came out ahead of the game and stated that we need to come there and get at them, and then basically invited pressure.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheTone on April 01, 2017, 08:14:53 PM
off to play golf now, gauranteed top,duff or shank off the first tee box, fuck off everton
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: schleffera on April 01, 2017, 08:14:56 PM
Baines our best player, though not saying much
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ridge on April 01, 2017, 08:15:05 PM
Not posed them any trouble today
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 08:15:11 PM
Pass Mirallas. Ball hogger.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 01, 2017, 08:15:14 PM
Bet Lukaku wishes he was up against a 40 year old Carragher again today.

Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on April 01, 2017, 08:15:26 PM
Fuck off Jamie Redknapp and fuck off James Bond.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: christiffa25 on April 01, 2017, 08:15:30 PM
Anybody think Southgate was right?

If he's not allowed a bad game every now and then then yeah

If you look in context of how shit the rest of the team have been no
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on April 01, 2017, 08:15:48 PM
Anybody think Southgate was right?

Nah, we are just always collectively awful against the RS
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on April 01, 2017, 08:15:58 PM
Agreed. Awful selection. Was asking for this sort of result.

Came out ahead of the game and stated that we need to come there and get at them, and then basically invited pressure.

So Koeman out now or what ?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on April 01, 2017, 08:16:07 PM
Evidence right there of why we needed Mirallas. He is dynamic; can put other times on the back foot. Never had that today otherwise.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Gash on April 01, 2017, 08:16:10 PM
For an apparently world class player, Lukaku has done really well to squeeze into Dejan Lovren's pocket

World class players don't go AWOL in games like this. Horrible, uninterested performance from him today.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on April 01, 2017, 08:16:56 PM
So Koeman out now or what ?

Obviously, no. Still fucked up the selection.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 08:17:33 PM
we are also down 3 players that would/should have started this match.  Matters more to us than them.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 08:18:00 PM
Now Williams is injured. Not sure if that's a good thing or not.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lazarou on April 01, 2017, 08:18:05 PM
Koeman got it wrong today, then waited too long to do something about it. Not his finest work.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Shogun on April 01, 2017, 08:18:10 PM
What an absolute fraud Ashley Williams is.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on April 01, 2017, 08:18:36 PM
We are just not very good in derbies. They always seem to want ot more than us.
Until we get real quality with some pace and movement in the side we will not be top 4 material. We need to bring in some real high profile players in the summer and in numbers
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 08:19:28 PM
Now Williams is injured. Not sure if that's a good thing or not.

If we still had Funes Mori as an alternative, or anyone for that matter...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: dazfrancis on April 01, 2017, 08:19:30 PM
we are also down 3 players that would/should have started this match.  Matters more to us than them.

Shows you that our squad isn't good enough yet
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Danny on April 01, 2017, 08:19:42 PM
Agreed. Awful selection. Was asking for this sort of result.

Came out ahead of the game and stated that we need to come there and get at them, and then basically invited pressure.

I don't really know what people expected, even amongst the youth players Davies is seen as the only real starter and 6 months ago half our fan base hadn't heard of him.

Calvert Lewin, Holgate and definitely Pennington aren't ready to start yet, never mind how important missing Schneiderlin and Coleman is, if we'd had Mirallas and Bolasie on the wings running at them with those two adding to defensive stability we'd have been much better off.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 01, 2017, 08:19:46 PM
Koeman really got it wrong today.  Looking back, I'm not sure how that lineup and formation had any chance whatsoever for a point?  Like the Chelsea beating.
   He got it wrong at our place as well, tactically poor again, Morgan and Seamus obvious miss
but fuk me wer'e fukin awful there looks to be no fukin plan at all, Wev'e had far worse teams than this over the years
that have given better Liverpool teams a game...Fukin Dire
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on April 01, 2017, 08:19:53 PM
Not that I want to watch much more of this bollox, but how do they only add 4 minutes when Can was rolling around in the dirt for 5 minutes?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on April 01, 2017, 08:19:56 PM
What an absolute fraud Ashley Williams is.

I think he's the biggest fraud that I remember playing for is.

Bloody inspiring, lionheart leader, who can defend and pass the ball, my fucking arse!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Paddockoldie on April 01, 2017, 08:20:10 PM
Poor team set up really. Deffo need 2 cb's and  another striker... they're messing with us now. Koeman should ask Burnley how they do it... fuckin Burnley, yeah I know.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on April 01, 2017, 08:20:15 PM
Well at least we now know we are not a top 6 team with this squad.

Koeman and Walsh has a lot to do this summer if we want to challenge for top 4.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on April 01, 2017, 08:20:28 PM
Shite. No balls. Fuck off Everton.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bwana on April 01, 2017, 08:20:46 PM
3 at the back just doesn't work, especially with the players we have at the moment. The enemy didn't need to anything today. We imploded.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Grand Master C on April 01, 2017, 08:20:47 PM
Mirallas should have been given more time. He and Look man would have been a positive move.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 01, 2017, 08:20:57 PM
World class players don't go AWOL in games like this. Horrible, uninterested performance from him today.

His head goes down so easily. Never seems to roll his sleeves up and battle when its going wrong. Needs some agression on our bad days
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ramjam on April 01, 2017, 08:22:11 PM
We are just not very good in derbies. They always seem to want ot more than us.
Until we get real quality with some pace and movement in the side we will not be top 4 material. We need to bring in some real high profile players in the summer and in numbers

This in s nut shell
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 08:22:15 PM
Shows you that our squad isn't good enough yet

This is true.  Not having the ability to recall Galloway really, really hurts.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on April 01, 2017, 08:22:47 PM
I don't really know what people expected, even amongst the youth players Davies is seen as the only real starter and 6 months ago half our fan base hadn't heard of him.

Calvert Lewin, Holgate and definitely Pennington aren't ready to start yet, never mind how important missing Schneiderlin and Coleman is, if we'd had Mirallas and Bolasie on the wings running at them with those two adding to defensive stability we'd have been much better off.

The voice of reason.

We probably still would've lost, mind 😄
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 01, 2017, 08:23:10 PM
The injuries fucked us.

It's a different game with Morgs and Coleman
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: schleffera on April 01, 2017, 08:23:10 PM
In fairness, for a reality check, we are missing a RB,  CB, CMx2, and LW. We can't afford that. And why has some cunt an Aberdeen scarf?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on April 01, 2017, 08:23:45 PM
One of those games where the squad feels miles and miles away from being ready.

Truth is there are some serious gaps in the squad.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Trowel on April 01, 2017, 08:23:46 PM
Beyond a joke that we consistently have our worst performances of the season in the derby.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Gash on April 01, 2017, 08:23:55 PM
This is true.  Not having the ability to recall Galloway really, really hurts.

Stop it.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 08:24:14 PM
Think we should sue FIFa.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 08:24:14 PM
I don't really know what people expected, even amongst the youth players Davies is seen as the only real starter and 6 months ago half our fan base hadn't heard of him.

Calvert Lewin, Holgate and definitely Pennington aren't ready to start yet, never mind how important missing Schneiderlin and Coleman is, if we'd had Mirallas and Bolasie on the wings running at them with those two adding to defensive stability we'd have been much better off.

Holgate was fine once we moved away from the 3 at the back, which we just can't play with the personnel available.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: School of Science on April 01, 2017, 08:24:20 PM
Far too easy I'm afraid, Rom hasn't turned up, Barkley has tried manfully but nothing has co m e off. Mirallas should have been on from the start or at least half time. We missed Schneiderlin badly. Dare I say it too many kids starting.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 01, 2017, 08:24:24 PM
I think he's the biggest fraud that I remember playing for is.

Bloody inspiring, lionheart leader, who can defend and pass the ball, my fucking arse!

Watch out for the taffia Sam!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on April 01, 2017, 08:24:32 PM
3-5-2 against Spurs away, we lose the game early and then change it.

3-5-2 against the shite away, we lose the game early and then change it.

Will we see the same against Utd?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: chang on April 01, 2017, 08:24:42 PM
I don't think the game today taught us anything we didn't already know, or expect.

Squad not yet deep enough to cope with key players missing and Mr Lukaku talks too much.

Big games is where big players make their names, Rom is sadly lacking and i say that with heavy heart.

He has had one touch in Liverpools box accordig to BBC stats
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2017, 08:24:47 PM
Stop it.

He wouldn't have been better than using fucking Pennington today?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 01, 2017, 08:25:06 PM
Beyond a joke that we consistently have our worst performances of the season in the derby.

Have you mentally blocked the Chelsea game?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 08:25:25 PM
April Fools!

We won 3-1!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on April 01, 2017, 08:25:32 PM
Koeman got it wrong, sinple as that
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 01, 2017, 08:25:55 PM
I'd be happy to never see Jags, Williams and Robles play for us again.

As I said with Jags, I'll judge him when we play someone decent and he was found wanting.

He's done at this level. Williams wasn't good enough to make the step up from Swansea and Robles is just fucking horrendous.

Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Big Nev on April 01, 2017, 08:26:03 PM
At least no big teams will come in for Lukaku if he plays like that
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on April 01, 2017, 08:26:07 PM
We don't have top players in every department. I'd like to see the likes of Koulibaly, Benzema, James Rodriguez at Everton. Thats the level of players which will make us competitive at the top. Otherwise we may as stay a small club.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Danny on April 01, 2017, 08:26:07 PM
Holgate was fine once we moved away from the 3 at the back, which we just can't play with the personnel available.

Holgate is a top tier talent mate but you don't really want to be starting him in games like that.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 01, 2017, 08:26:21 PM
Koeman got it wrong, sinple as that
Yes
Wrong formation imo
Wrong players too

They won without getting out of first gear
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Gash on April 01, 2017, 08:26:36 PM
He wouldn't have been better than using fucking Pennington today?

We'll never know, but probably not.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on April 01, 2017, 08:26:44 PM
World class players don't go AWOL in games like this. Horrible, uninterested performance from him today.

Yeah, he hasn't had much to play with, but he has the skills to go looking for it and create space, but he hasn't looked bothered.

It screams I'm too good for this.

Which he might well be, but he never shows it in games like this, apart from Chelsea FA Cup.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 01, 2017, 08:27:01 PM
Yeah Koeman got that wrong.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ball8y on April 01, 2017, 08:27:17 PM
Wallpushing bastards
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: griff969 on April 01, 2017, 08:27:25 PM
We seem to have such a mental issues with derby matches. Liverpool always turn up. It reminds me so much of the England vs Australia Ashes Series for years (except Liverpool are not world beaters are they?). They just want it so much more than us.

I know we had injuries but we were just woeful.

I have to wonder if many of our players will really hurt after that.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: charlatan on April 01, 2017, 08:27:32 PM
Fucking disgrace that.  They are shite and never even got out of 1st gear.  Men against boys.  Sick of these fucking bottlers we have playing for us, never turn up when the pressure is on
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 01, 2017, 08:27:50 PM
Pennington is a very good defender and has a bright future.

Let's not write him off already
Title: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: ally2 on April 01, 2017, 08:28:28 PM
Haven't read any of this.
I'm not offering any analysis here.
Everyone was shite at everything. With a special mention of shiteness for Jagielka and Williams.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on April 01, 2017, 08:29:07 PM
Koeman got it wrong, sinple as that

As much as I like him he doesn't have a great track record in getting it right away from home.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TSGun on April 01, 2017, 08:29:13 PM
What a strange game to dissect. Hardly a classic by any means.

I haven't watched Liverpool this season but they are very average. That said, what were we attempting to achieve today? Sincerely feel for all of you who have to deal with the next week or so over in the UK. I'm sure it wont be pleasant.

Mind boggling.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 01, 2017, 08:29:36 PM
Williams has got to get retrospective action against him as well hasn't he? Like Mings.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 01, 2017, 08:30:04 PM
Williams was awful today, Jagielka not much better, too much for Pennington, Holgate not a wing back, we missed an anchor (ms or gb), Ross had one of those games, lukaku isolated and then uninterested, Dcl actually put himself about and did OK

Davies and gueye seemed overran all in all another to forget
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: charlatan on April 01, 2017, 08:31:02 PM
Pennington is a very good defender and has a bright future.

Let's not write him off already

Was hung out to dry with the stupid formation we were playing, and the fact that the "old heads" round him are fucking cowards
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 08:31:12 PM
Pennington is a very good defender and has a bright future.

Let's not write him off already

Of course not. He was put in at the deep end. Had Coleman been in, he may have fared better today. It was a big ask and Barry should have played in a 3 man midfield and 4 at the back. We had no center and no leader.

Pennington's time will come.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on April 01, 2017, 08:31:48 PM
Even if Morgan and Coleman had played we probably still would have got turned over.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on April 01, 2017, 08:32:11 PM
Was just like Spurs away that
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on April 01, 2017, 08:33:01 PM
Williams has got to get retrospective action against him as well hasn't he? Like Mings.

For the back stamp ?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Trowel on April 01, 2017, 08:33:04 PM
Injuries and lack of squad depth don't explain why Jagielka shits himself every time he gets the ball.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on April 01, 2017, 08:33:13 PM
Was just like Spurs away that

Shows we are not in the big boys league.....just as yet
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Cuttyblue on April 01, 2017, 08:33:15 PM
Next year, I'm going to put $1000 on the shite winning the next derby away, and another grand on rs double chance at Goodison.

Either: A) Steaks and fine wines for me for weeks.
B) Derby Day success

I'm not joking.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: kewns23 on April 01, 2017, 08:33:28 PM
It happens better team won
I think Koeman knows all this and our team will be complete overhaul in the summer
I reckon Keane & vvd and deffo need a new keeper too
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Robioto on April 01, 2017, 08:33:29 PM
Is it over? Good, let's get on with being a good side again then.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on April 01, 2017, 08:33:42 PM
Thought Gueye put in a shift, but the rest were bang average / piss poor.

Too much upheaval in the team before kick off to take anything away from that.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on April 01, 2017, 08:33:46 PM
I feel a little sorry for Pennington as he's basically the defender the manager turns to when we have a bit of a defensive injury crisis and we end up playing and defending like shite (remember towards the end of last season). But at the same time, I guess this is where a young player shows if they have the mentality to play at the top level.

By next season, we should have brought in 4-5 players of real quality with a winning mentality, we should by then be able to at least compete with the top 6.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on April 01, 2017, 08:33:59 PM
Williams was awful today, Jagielka not much better, too much for Pennington, Holgate not a wing back, we missed an anchor (ms or gb), Ross had one of those games, lukaku isolated and then uninterested, Dcl actually put himself about and did OK

Davies and gueye seemed overran all in all another to forget

The formation exposed a poor back three.

Why he doesn't line up with two banks of four in big away games I don't know. 11 goals conceded away at Chelsea, Spurs and the shite. That doesn't reflect well on the manager.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ross on April 01, 2017, 08:34:33 PM
For the back stamp ?

Yeah I'd have thought so.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Trowel on April 01, 2017, 08:35:42 PM
World class players don't go AWOL in games like this. Horrible, uninterested performance from him today.
https://twitter.com/SkySportsStatto/status/848166055117807621
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on April 01, 2017, 08:35:49 PM
Sell them all. Football manager style
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on April 01, 2017, 08:35:56 PM
I don't normally condemn performances but I must say Baines played OK until he passed the ball when he was really poor ,again. His crossing is almost non -existent and he is not the same player
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on April 01, 2017, 08:36:56 PM
Next year, I'm going to put $1000 on the shite winning the next derby away, and another grand on rs double chance at Goodison.

Either: A) Steaks and fine wines for me for weeks.
B) Derby Day success

I'm not joking.

Do it, man.

If you're blessed with cash, it's a win-win
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: pjk on April 01, 2017, 08:38:18 PM
It's Koemans first Derby at Anfield, we were nowhere near caving in for a change and nowhere near good enough. We were more restricted than them with injuries, but the kids did alright. Topspot experience for next season for them. Let's get the big closed season signings in. The foundations are looking good.... I refuse to worry about their future instead of ours. :)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on April 01, 2017, 08:39:00 PM
Hand on heart, has anyone expected it to be any different?

We know our squad lacks depth, we are missing two vital players, we know we always shit ourselves at Anfield, and rather than playing our own game, we are sucked into this high-tempo thing that we aren't comfortable with.

Any knee-jerk reactions to the result are just that.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 01, 2017, 08:39:24 PM
3-5-2 against Spurs away, we lose the game early and then change it.

3-5-2 against the shite away, we lose the game early and then change it.

Will we see the same against Utd?  True Ron's got a bit of Martinez-itus always end a game with the players
we should have started with....at least we can claim injuries took all the rest of the squads balls away...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Cuttyblue on April 01, 2017, 08:39:46 PM
Do it, man.

If you're blessed with cash, it's a win-win

Think I can scrape it together... if Everton wins, I'm chuffed and I'll take it as a sign that I'm the worst luck ever and I'll never wager again!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on April 01, 2017, 08:40:02 PM
It happens better team won
I think Koeman knows all this and our team will be complete overhaul in the summer
I reckon Keane & vvd and deffo need a new keeper too

Can't see Van Dijk coming to us, mate.

Providing he recovers well from his injury he will go to a side that are already top-level.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on April 01, 2017, 08:40:30 PM
Next year, I'm going to put $1000 on the shite winning the next derby away, and another grand on rs double chance at Goodison.

Either: A) Steaks and fine wines for me for weeks.
B) Derby Day success

I'm not joking.

Or...
 
C) Knowing our luck we'd be twatted at home 6-0 and will play out a dull 0-0 at their place
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on April 01, 2017, 08:41:20 PM
Think I can scrape it together... if Everton wins, I'm chuffed and I'll take it as a sign that I'm the worst luck ever and I'll never wager again!

I would definitely pay £2k for a Derby-Double.

Loathsome cunts they are, especially their fanbase.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Cuttyblue on April 01, 2017, 08:44:22 PM
Or...
 
C) Knowing our luck we'd be twatted at home 6-0 and will play out a dull 0-0 at their place

MC, hahaha you know that will happen.  Will lose all that paper and will STILL be a pair of s#it weekends.

Derbies for Evertonians and gambling: you truly cannot win in this world.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Confucius on April 01, 2017, 08:44:56 PM
Holgate looks a real player and so calm in the ball. Think he would have been better in a back 3. Williams and Jags just stood 5-10 yards off players everytime a Liverpool player got close to them. They slower than Barry. In the first half Can just kicked it 20 yards past Jags gave him a 10 yard head start and almost beat him to it. We can't be wanting to be a top 5-6 side when we have such a lack of pace. 

Never really believed that Jags the fastest player in the EPL thing.

It's only for the 3rd goal you can blame Robles but then that was pretty much a penalty. He had to guess and got it wrong. Made him look silly but unless the shot was straight at him or he guesses the right way there was no saving it.

He had no chance with the first 2 goals tho. Just awful awful defending and professional footballers going to ground so easily. Just run next to the guy and add the body so he can't turn and force him wide. Simple simple stuff.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on April 01, 2017, 08:46:43 PM
In fairness, for a reality check, we are missing a RB,  CB, CMx2, and LW. We can't afford that. And why has some cunt an Aberdeen scarf?

Half and half = all cunt
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on April 01, 2017, 08:46:48 PM
Koemans taken some martinez on ice before his interview.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: kewns23 on April 01, 2017, 08:48:28 PM
Can't see Van Dijk coming to us, mate.

Providing he recovers well from his injury he will go to a side that are already top-level.

I've heard from two different sources
And one working for Liverpool
That he wont's too work with Koeman again!

But money talks we shall see in summer I just can't see Southampton selling him too us they probably even sell to redshite on purpose lol
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TrevorSteven on April 01, 2017, 08:50:36 PM
Hand on heart, has anyone expected it to be any different?

We know our squad lacks depth, we are missing two vital players, we know we always shit ourselves at Anfield, and rather than playing our own game, we are sucked into this high-tempo thing that we aren't comfortable with.

Any knee-jerk reactions to the result are just that.

I think most of all we miss the mentality. In these games they have lost before kick-off. Everybody is passing at the first opportunity and first movement. I do love Barkley but he will never run games like this. He is not clever enough in hos head, but fantastic with his feet. The only time one player actually tried to go straight on the defenders taking them on was Mirallas in the 86th minute. I Wonder when the "star" players actually will show their ambitious and winning mentality in big matches instead of in media.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 01, 2017, 08:52:52 PM
Yeah I'd have thought so.

Don't be soft. He pulls out faster than you would a prozzy.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 01, 2017, 08:53:06 PM
Not good enough again. Joel shite, Williams shite....all of them crap. Fed fucking up of rolling over. I hate them. And i fucking hate Klopp that chest pound?? Attention seeking bell end.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on April 01, 2017, 08:53:15 PM

It's only for the 3rd goal you can blame Robles but then that was pretty much a penalty. He had to guess and got it wrong. Made him look silly but unless the shot was straight at him or he guesses the right way there was no saving it.

He had no chance with the first 2 goals tho. Just awful awful defending and professional footballers going to ground so easily. Just run next to the guy and add the body so he can't turn and force him wide. Simple simple stuff.

Good goalkeepers don't guess though mate. They play the percentages and make the player make the decision to see if they can beat him.

Two big away games and he's been at fault at key moments. He's not alone mind but that doesn't take away his culpability.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 01, 2017, 08:55:53 PM
I can't see the point singling anyone out. They were all under par, and the manager had a bad day.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ridge on April 01, 2017, 08:58:14 PM
Koeman was talking about not understanding fear in the build up, and then very proud of performance getting beat 3-1 comfortably.  :bonk:
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 01, 2017, 09:00:37 PM
Koeman was talking about not understanding fear in the build up, and then very proud of performance getting beat 3-1 comfortably.  :bonk:

Not bothered what the manager says immediately after the game, with emotions running high and without any distance and objectivity.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 01, 2017, 09:00:54 PM

  Can never remember thinking we were gutless after playing them, but today....
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on April 01, 2017, 09:01:05 PM
I've heard from two different sources
And one working for Liverpool
That he wont's too work with Koeman again!

But money talks we shall see in summer I just can't see Southampton selling him too us they probably even sell to redshite on purpose lol

They'll link-up at Barca, then 😉
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on April 01, 2017, 09:04:35 PM
I think most of all we miss the mentality. In these games they have lost before kick-off. Everybody is passing at the first opportunity and first movement. I do love Barkley but he will never run games like this. He is not clever enough in hos head, but fantastic with his feet. The only time one player actually tried to go straight on the defenders taking them on was Mirallas in the 86th minute. I Wonder when the "star" players actually will show their ambitious and winning mentality in big matches instead of in media.

I do feel we lose our cool in these games and try to play faster than what we normally do. I don't know what it is, a lack of confidence, too much focus on the occasion or what, but it's palpable.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: griff969 on April 01, 2017, 09:05:06 PM

It's only for the 3rd goal you can blame Robles but then that was pretty much a penalty. He had to guess and got it wrong. Made him look silly but unless the shot was straight at him or he guesses the right way there was no saving it.

He had no chance with the first 2 goals tho. Just awful awful defending and professional footballers going to ground so easily. Just run next to the guy and add the body so he can't turn and force him wide. Simple simple stuff.

Not sure about your assessment on that. The first two goals he was probably too far over to his near post and I am not sure any decent keeper would be guessing with a shot from 25 yards. It looked for all the world that it had a deflection in real time but he just started going before Origi shot.

The defending was awful for all of them though, no doubt about it. They left the keeper really exposed but I think he could have done better if he was positioned better.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Buck76 on April 01, 2017, 09:05:50 PM
Koemans taken some martinez on ice before his interview.

Didn't expect that from Koeman, maybe protecting the kids for united but that was a dire....
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 01, 2017, 09:06:46 PM
Didn't expect that from Koeman, maybe protecting the kids for united but that was a dire....

i think this is it...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ridge on April 01, 2017, 09:08:54 PM
Not bothered what the manager says immediately after the game, with emotions running high and without any distance and objectivity.

It's understandable, but it's often the blinkered soundbites after games that people remember most.

We weren't unlucky, it wasn't a million individual errors, we deserved nothing from that game.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 01, 2017, 09:09:37 PM
They'll link-up at Barca, then 😉
    fukin hope so.....:]
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on April 01, 2017, 09:09:48 PM
Klopps teeth are absolutely filthy ! Can't he afford to see a dental hygienist ?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on April 01, 2017, 09:12:38 PM
    fukin hope so.....:]

Thanks for that input.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on April 01, 2017, 09:13:51 PM
    fukin hope so.....:]

Really, mate? 😕
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 01, 2017, 09:13:51 PM
Klopps teeth are absolutely filthy ! Can't he afford to see a dental hygienist ?
Bet his mrs got hairy mot and pits n all
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 01, 2017, 09:14:37 PM
Really, mate? 😕
   No just post match stress disorder...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on April 01, 2017, 09:19:11 PM
   No just post match stress disorder...

Completely understandable 😔
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on April 01, 2017, 09:22:24 PM
Not sure about your assessment on that. The first two goals he was probably too far over to his near post and I am not sure any decent keeper would be guessing with a shot from 25 yards. It looked for all the world that it had a deflection in real time but he just started going before Origi shot.

The defending was awful for all of them though, no doubt about it. They left the keeper really exposed but I think he could have done better if he was positioned better.

He has a knack of conceding goals  that just don't look right.

Granted he can catch and kick a ball and pulls off some regulation saves but he just doesn't look like a goalkeeper when it comes to just being a keeper. Weird.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: terrydarracotsbaldpate on April 01, 2017, 09:30:36 PM
I have the Derby. But you know. I fancy us to win next year. Rooney to score.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Ridge on April 01, 2017, 09:31:18 PM
Didn't expect that from Koeman, maybe protecting the kids for united but that was a dire....

I thought he explained his thinking quite openly, his plan was to nullify the RS threats and we forced them to go more direct and limited their chances. There is certainly an amount that he doesn't want to concede anything to Klopp and our plans changed a lot so less expectation.

Not sure there is much supporting evidence to indicate that Koeman protects players as priority. He does generally deflect blame onto players, but he still didn't accept any fault.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: bluenuck on April 01, 2017, 09:54:45 PM
Hand on heart, has anyone expected it to be any different?

We know our squad lacks depth, we are missing two vital players, we know we always shit ourselves at Anfield, and rather than playing our own game, we are sucked into this high-tempo thing that we aren't comfortable with.

Any knee-jerk reactions to the result are just that.

It really is this, isn't it? I mean that score line was so easy to predict it wasn't even funny when I finished watching the game.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: charlatan on April 01, 2017, 10:00:34 PM
How can people refer to this as knee jerking?  We haven't beat them at Anfield since 99, and not at all in 7 years, and most of this time they have been no better than average
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 01, 2017, 10:01:29 PM
It's knee jerk against our current form
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on April 01, 2017, 10:04:10 PM
Going there with one third of our best team missing was never going to go well. Especially when its was our defensive players out and their strength is in attack.

Our forward play was poor though and we should still have done better in that area.

Disappointing but this wasnt the day to turn them over.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: blargins on April 01, 2017, 10:06:17 PM
We probably would have still lost with our strongest 11, or we may have sneaked a draw. We probably wouldn't have let three goals in though.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: bluenuck on April 01, 2017, 10:10:52 PM
Missing 5 players who could have all started that game.

We play this game 2 weeks ago and we actually might have shown up. Not saying we do them in but we could have at least gave it a go.

This is probably the least pissed off I've felt in a long time after losing to them.

Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on April 01, 2017, 10:12:42 PM
How can people refer to this as knee jerking?  We haven't beat them at Anfield since 99, and not at all in 7 years, and most of this time they have been no better than average

I was referring to reactions that were along the lines of "we need to sell everybody, all our players are absolutely useless".
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on April 01, 2017, 10:17:26 PM
We will beat United Tuesday, 100%
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 01, 2017, 10:31:34 PM
Maybe a bit petty but did anybody else think the Liverpool wank-a-thon was in full gear today with Sky?. Anything Liverpool done was met with 'Let's go to Redknapp in the studio". 
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on April 01, 2017, 10:33:54 PM
Maybe a bit petty but did anybody else think the Liverpool wank-a-thon was in full gear today with Sky?. Anything Liverpool done was met with 'Let's go to Redknapp in the studio". 

True. When we scored they decided not to go to the one time occasional footballer and full-time clothes horse.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on April 01, 2017, 10:35:05 PM
I know the RS have the Indian Sign over us, but it is worrying how our midfield crumbles against the better sides.

Far from being 'the final piece of the jigsaw', Schneiderlin is just a good piece.

Competition for/upgrades on all of our midfield occupants are needed over the next few seasons, as well as in the GK, CB, and FB positions, if we are to be a perennial top-six side.

Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: School of Science on April 01, 2017, 10:36:29 PM
Centre halves needed next year, sadly a right back,due to Coleman's injury, really a goalkeeper and probably a replacement for Baines at left back. That should cover our defensive deficiencies.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Escla on April 01, 2017, 10:39:28 PM
We will beat United Tuesday, 100%

Leicester playing like the Leicester of last season now.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 01, 2017, 10:47:40 PM
I know the RS have the Indian Sign over us, but it is worrying how our midfield crumbles against the better sides.

Far from being 'the final piece of the jigsaw', Schneiderlin is just a good piece.

Competition for/upgrades on all of our midfield occupants are needed over the next few seasons, as well as in the GK, CB, and FB positions, if we are to be a perennial top-six side.



It doesn't help that we're hoofing the ball up to Lukaku when the midfield is still in our own half. We're playing well usually but if we're going to persist with the damn long balls up to Lukaku then we need defenders who can actually play those passes properly.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: bluenuck on April 01, 2017, 10:48:39 PM
I know the RS have the Indian Sign over us, but it is worrying how our midfield crumbles against the better sides.

Far from being 'the final piece of the jigsaw', Schneiderlin is just a good piece.

Competition for/upgrades on all of our midfield occupants are needed over the next few seasons, as well as in the GK, CB, and FB positions, if we are to be a perennial top-six side.

We've beaten arsenal and man city. Dominated them actually.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on April 01, 2017, 10:52:58 PM
We've beaten arsenal and man city. Dominated them actually.

We certainly didn't dominate Arsenal.

And we were clinical against City, and used the ball well the rare times we had it (City had over 70% possession)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on April 01, 2017, 10:56:32 PM
If we had won both 2016/17 Derbies we would now have 56 pts to Lpool's 53.

That's what losing these games is doing to us every season. 12 point swing.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on April 01, 2017, 10:59:36 PM
Centre halves needed next year, sadly a right back,due to Coleman's injury, really a goalkeeper and probably a replacement for Baines at left back. That should cover our defensive deficiencies.

So just a full defensive unit then.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on April 01, 2017, 11:05:44 PM
If we had won both 2016/17 Derbies we would now have 56 pts to Lpool's 53.

That's what losing these games is doing to us every season. 12 point swing.


How I feel reading that ^

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Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on April 01, 2017, 11:08:15 PM
Missing 5 players who could have all started that game.

We play this game 2 weeks ago and we actually might have shown up. Not saying we do them in but we could have at least gave it a go.

This is probably the least pissed off I've felt in a long time after losing to them.



Agree. Tough to have expected more from this lineup. To think Pennington and Holgate could keep Mane and Coutinho at bay is unreasonable.

Tough day. Strengthen in the off season and let's see what happens next season
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on April 01, 2017, 11:13:12 PM
It was strange from the off.

Their best two players play inside right and inside left so to line up three at the back leaves a hell of a lot of space in those two areas.

I just think this 3-5-2 line up away at the big teams has yielded 0 pts, 3 goals and 11 conceded. It doesn't work.

I'd be amazed and surprised if we see it again in such a game. Koeman has to take some responsibility for this.

Let's see on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: bluenuck on April 01, 2017, 11:32:30 PM
It was strange from the off.

It always is playing there.

For whatever reason.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on April 01, 2017, 11:44:17 PM
Nothing wrong with losing today . We were beaten by a couple of moments of class . Yes you could pan Pennington and Williams but credit Coutinho and Origi for quick thinking . Lukaku was dogshit and I really couldn't care less if he moved on . People who say you don't sell if you want to challenge the top 4 just need to look at how often he turns in a performance like today . Decent showing given the inexperience in important areas . Maybe a bit naive from Koeman to field that side but overall they fared quite well .
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Tinga on April 01, 2017, 11:50:10 PM
Horrendous on all accounts.

Anyone else remember when Everton would show up for derby games?

...No. That answer really hurts.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Dr. Sponge on April 01, 2017, 11:53:30 PM
Our form since January has coincided with the signing of Schneiderlin. The 3 players that are pivotal to how we play (when we play well) are him, Coleman and Lukaku. 2 are injured and the other didn't turn up.

We need more strength in depth, Holgate is a centre half not a wingback. Barry is too old and slow.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Bournemouthtoffee on April 02, 2017, 12:06:04 AM
Nothing wrong with losing today . We were beaten by a couple of moments of class . Yes you could pan Pennington and Williams but credit Coutinho and Origi for quick thinking . Lukaku was dogshit and I really couldn't care less if he moved on . People who say you don't sell if you want to challenge the top 4 just need to look at how often he turns in a performance like today . Decent showing given the inexperience in important areas . Maybe a bit naive from Koeman to field that side but overall they fared quite well .
I agree I think he does little other than scores goals,

and I know all you guys are going to say he the leading goal scorer this season but world class strikers do more than that for there teams.

yes without his goals this season we would be struggling but with the transfer fee we can bolster the weak areas of the team, we need a top keeper for a start.

and I am sick of waiting for Barkley to be that guy that takes a game and single handley turns it in our favour, maybe one day but for the moment we need to sign the kind of player
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on April 02, 2017, 12:45:03 AM
I agree I think he does little other than scores goals,

and I know all you guys are going to say he the leading goal scorer this season but world class strikers do more than that for there teams.

yes without his goals this season we would be struggling but with the transfer fee we can bolster the weak areas of the team, we need a top keeper for a start.

and I am sick of waiting for Barkley to be that guy that takes a game and single handley turns it in our favour, maybe one day but for the moment we need to sign the kind of player

Welcome to the forum!

I know what you mean about Barkley. I don't know if he will ever be that player to take a game by the scruff of the neck, although you'd be hard pressed to find an Evertonian who doesn't think he could be capable of it. Maybe we'd see the best of him with a real dominator alongside him in the team - like a Patrick Viera or a Yaya Toure?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Shogun on April 02, 2017, 12:47:50 AM
What we saw today and in just about every derby he has played in wasn't the footballer Ross Barkley, it was the Evertonian Ross Barkley.

You know how if 99% of our fanbase had the chance to play in a derby that they'd just try and smash a few of their players up, that's his mentality. He should have been sent off in both derbies this season and until he learns to let his ability do the talking, then he has no chance of making a positive impact in these matches.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on April 02, 2017, 01:00:36 AM
What we saw today and in just about every derby he has played in wasn't the footballer Ross Barkley, it was the Evertonian Ross Barkley.

You know how if 99% of our fanbase had the chance to play in a derby that they'd just try and smash a few of their players up, that's his mentality. He should have been sent off in both derbies this season and until he learns to let his ability do the talking, then he has no chance of making a positive impact in these matches.

It's hard but I was thinking similar things when one or two people mentioned missing the coolness of Schneiderlin or the maturity of Barry in the starting line up - for all this talk of not turning up or being up for it - if we had a few better players, would they have the class and composure to play it more calmly against these - and should that be how we approach the derbies?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on April 02, 2017, 01:04:58 AM
6 fucking text messages from people at work who all:

1) Live in Leicester
2) Claim to be massive shite fans
3) Have rs mugs and rs wallpapers on their desktops (the Klopp one is particularly offensive)
4) Have never set foot inside the city of Liverpool even once during their sorry, turd lives

If I'm not sacked this week I'll have won a gold medal for restraint

 :headbang:
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on April 02, 2017, 01:30:51 AM
Lukaku's a cunt was dreading him going not now, starting to see some similar traits in Koeman than with
Martinez, hope that feelings gone with the rum in the morning....
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TheRam on April 02, 2017, 01:55:00 AM
What we saw today and in just about every derby he has played in wasn't the footballer Ross Barkley, it was the Evertonian Ross Barkley.

You know how if 99% of our fanbase had the chance to play in a derby that they'd just try and smash a few of their players up, that's his mentality. He should have been sent off in both derbies this season and until he learns to let his ability do the talking, then he has no chance of making a positive impact in these matches.

I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy his performance
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Shogun on April 02, 2017, 02:05:38 AM
I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy his performance

Yeah, loved his foul 20 seconds in.

Still, I'd rather we'd have won like.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 02, 2017, 02:07:40 AM
Yeah, loved his foul 20 seconds in.

Still, I'd rather we'd have won like.
He was so pumped up, years ago he'd have been laughing, nowadays it's a miracle he stayed on! And my Facebook is full of hatchet man Barkley no wonder he doesn't get a game for England 😞😞😞
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Cuttyblue on April 02, 2017, 02:30:44 AM
If we had won both 2016/17 Derbies we would now have 56 pts to Lpool's 53.

That's what losing these games is doing to us every season. 12 point swing.

This is what kills me.  I do these quick maths in my head every year after the 2nd derby as well.

The rs are a step up the ladder and right where we want to establish ourselves next: perennial top-4 contenders. Yet if you think yourself a top-4 contender, you aren't unless you can take points away from your competition.

If you compared their XI vs ours at top strength, no injuries, it's a real fair fight.  Yet the rs almost ALWAYS turn up against the top side and we don't.

Moyes, Martinez, Koeman, doesn't matter: How come our players can't get the right mentality to get into these games and win them?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: arteta4spain on April 02, 2017, 02:38:16 AM
This is what kills me.  I do these quick maths in my head every year after the 2nd derby as well.

The rs are a step up the ladder and right where we want to establish ourselves next: perennial top-4 contenders. Yet if you think yourself a top-4 contender, you aren't unless you can take points away from your competition.

If you compared their XI vs ours at top strength, no injuries, it's a real fair fight.  Yet the rs almost ALWAYS turn up against the top side and we don't.

Moyes, Martinez, Koeman, doesn't matter: How come our players can't get the right mentality to get into these games and win them?
I'll get slated for this but we think our teams better than what it is and we think they're worse than they actually are.
We're good don't get me wrong but i honestly think we need winners in our team. Winners have a mentality that breeds through the team and will cause concern for the opposition.
But then look at that lot, they haven't won anything for ages. I don't know, I'm trying to justify why we're so shit against them.
Has the run let the rot set in and it's like ah well we'll get fuck all anyway. If we're in form, we bottle it, if we're shite we don't turn it around. Is this the first Derby in a while that we've scored btw?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: GLewis on April 02, 2017, 02:39:32 AM
Just seen the goals again for the first time.

Have to say none of them are great from a defensive point of view.

Players making poor decisions in all of them.

Given our psychological issues there we can't afford those types of mistakes as the early goal is always tough; the second is worse as it's so soon after getting back into the game; and the third kills off any hope.

The psychology is a very tough one.

People moan at Lukaku but why is someone like Gueye making mistakes like he did today or barely getting a foot in all game?

The issues are too widespread to say it must be x, y or z.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on April 02, 2017, 02:46:48 AM
This is what kills me.  I do these quick maths in my head every year after the 2nd derby as well.

The rs are a step up the ladder and right where we want to establish ourselves next: perennial top-4 contenders. Yet if you think yourself a top-4 contender, you aren't unless you can take points away from your competition.

If you compared their XI vs ours at top strength, no injuries, it's a real fair fight.  Yet the rs almost ALWAYS turn up against the top side and we don't.

Moyes, Martinez, Koeman, doesn't matter: How come our players can't get the right mentality to get into these games and win them?

I don't understand how short sighted some people on here are. Do you not recall we drew Utd, beat and drew Man City, drew Spurs, beat West Brom twice (am only including them because they are the only team close to knicking 7th off of us) and beat Arsenal. We are still yet to play Utd, Arsenal, and Chelsea a second time.

So how do we not show up for big games? If anything we don't show up against the clubs we should be drubbing.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: sirblue57 on April 02, 2017, 02:55:53 AM
my honest assessment?
Robles. poor positioning but let down by defending that would embarrass schoolboys.
Baines was the only defender to come out with any credit, and even he was poor by his standards.
the midfield were all over the fucking place, only Gana seemed to realise what his role was and did a good job
our forwards seem incapable of working together, and the enigma that is Lukaku frustrates the fuck out of me. yes the service was poor, but what did he do to create space?

IMO , we lack leadership,balls and mental strength. as much as i like Rom if he is not prepared to lead the line , show passion and commitment, then its goodbye and don't let the door hit ya arse.

to many players in this squad did not have the guile and heart to win, and this is were walsh and koeman will earn their money in the summer, rom is NOT irreplaceable, as good as he THINKS he is, he is not at the level of the really top clubs yet, miralliss must be doing something to piss successive managers off, and this means a total overhaul in the summer, maybe 8 or 9 players in.

hope Moshiri is ambitious on the pitch as he seems off.

anyway, i am going to continue to take my ire out on my liver, so thank you blues for once again fucking my weekend.  thank god for booze.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: brap2 on April 02, 2017, 03:48:42 AM
Just seen the goals again for the first time.

Have to say none of them are great from a defensive point of view.

Players making poor decisions in all of them.

Given our psychological issues there we can't afford those types of mistakes as the early goal is always tough; the second is worse as it's so soon after getting back into the game; and the third kills off any hope.

The psychology is a very tough one.

People moan at Lukaku but why is someone like Gueye making mistakes like he did today or barely getting a foot in all game?

The issues are too widespread to say it must be x, y or z.

Very odd isn't it. Feel like it's always like that, out usual top performers just don't look anything like themselves.

Gueye was turned inside out 4 or 5 times. Jags and Williams to be quite honest to me both looked like yer da trying to keep up with a different class of player.

Lukaku hardly had a sniff, Ross Barkley off his head...

I don't know. It's fucking gruesome though and I can't quite get my head around how bad the hoodoo truly is.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on April 02, 2017, 03:56:24 AM
Since we last won at anfield, Blackpool have risen from the 4th teir, won at anfield and fallen back to the 4th teir.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Gash on April 02, 2017, 04:04:15 AM
Since we last won at anfield, Blackpool have risen from the 4th teir, won at anfield and fallen back to the 4th teir.

I'll still take our record over there's then. :)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on April 02, 2017, 04:34:29 AM
I don't know. It's fucking gruesome though and I can't quite get my head around how bad the hoodoo truly is.

It's definitely not simple "big game nerves".
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: kewns23 on April 02, 2017, 05:12:03 AM
my honest assessment?
Robles. poor positioning but let down by defending that would embarrass schoolboys.
Baines was the only defender to come out with any credit, and even he was poor by his standards.
the midfield were all over the fucking place, only Gana seemed to realise what his role was and did a good job
our forwards seem incapable of working together, and the enigma that is Lukaku frustrates the fuck out of me. yes the service was poor, but what did he do to create space?

IMO , we lack leadership,balls and mental strength. as much as i like Rom if he is not prepared to lead the line , show passion and commitment, then its goodbye and don't let the door hit ya arse.

to many players in this squad did not have the guile and heart to win, and this is were walsh and koeman will earn their money in the summer, rom is NOT irreplaceable, as good as he THINKS he is, he is not at the level of the really top clubs yet, miralliss must be doing something to piss successive managers off, and this means a total overhaul in the summer, maybe 8 or 9 players in.

hope Moshiri is ambitious on the pitch as he seems off.

anyway, i am going to continue to take my ire out on my liver, so thank you blues for once again fucking my weekend.  thank god for booze.


I disagree with total overhaul and that never works anyway
I say summer 2 CB and 1 gk
Keane & vvd and maybe Pickford
We all no Rooney coming back

I think with a decent defensive behind them would help a lot
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: TrevorSteven on April 02, 2017, 05:28:22 AM
Centre halves needed next year, sadly a right back,due to Coleman's injury, really a goalkeeper and probably a replacement for Baines at left back. That should cover our defensive deficiencies.

I dont agree. Koeman is actually right about his comments. The stats shows a tight game. It was a game without chances but with a lot of goals.

You can then blame our defenders, but I would rather turn it around. What we lack is a Coutinho or a Mane. As much as it hurts, those players has the abilities to go one-on-one with defenders while our offensive players dont have that ability. What we need is 3 offensive players with skill, pace and vision. If we get that its no problem lossing Barkley. Liverpools defenders are not better than ours, they just meg players easier to stop. We need loads of better ability at the top four.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: bluenuck on April 02, 2017, 06:40:38 AM
6 fucking text messages from people at work who all:

1) Live in Leicester
2) Claim to be massive shite fans
3) Have rs mugs and rs wallpapers on their desktops (the Klopp one is particularly offensive)
4) Have never set foot inside the city of Liverpool even once during their sorry, turd lives

If I'm not sacked this week I'll have won a gold medal for restraint

 :headbang:

I'm a massive Blue, have been for 20ish years. I've never been to Liverpool... and I have an Everton Mug..... and I live in Vancouver.....
Title: Re: Liverpool v Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on April 02, 2017, 07:51:56 AM
I'm a massive Blue, have been for 20ish years. I've never been to Liverpool... and I have an Everton Mug..... and I live in Vancouver.....

Yea, but Leicester to Liverpool mate... it doesn't take much fucking effort!