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Title: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Shogun on December 27, 2012, 09:58:23 PM
Onwards and upwards, I'd take a draw now.

----------------------Howard---------------------
-----Jagielka-----Heitinga---Distin-----Baines----
--------------Neville----Hitzlsperger--------------
--------Anichebe-----Osman-------Pienaar-------
----------------------Jelavic-----------------------
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on December 27, 2012, 10:03:58 PM
they're on form

3-1 chelsea
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Snipellis11 on December 27, 2012, 10:29:46 PM
they're on form

3-1 chelsea

True. But we are too. 2-1 Everton.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Alanvideo on December 27, 2012, 10:43:42 PM
Can't see us losing but can't see us keeping a clean sheet either. 2-1.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Shogun on December 27, 2012, 10:52:11 PM
Are they on form?

8-0 v a very poor Villa side at home. A more impressive 1-0 win against Norwich (in my opinion). Before that they lost to West Ham and Corinthians.

Not sure they've fully turned a corner yet.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: evertonarntwe on December 27, 2012, 11:11:14 PM
Not looking forward to this one atall, no fellaini mirallas or gibbo ( by the looks of it) would take a draw as someone else said
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Shogun on December 27, 2012, 11:35:10 PM
Do you think that if was a choice between Coleman and Neville at right back that Moyes would pick Neville? Coleman might get torn apart by Hazard.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Ross on December 28, 2012, 12:16:23 AM
Do you think that if was a choice between Coleman and Neville at right back that Moyes would pick Neville? Coleman might get torn apart by Hazard.

Not sure how Coleman is progressing (?) but it's a big ask for Neville to play 3 games on the spin in 8 days after a month long injury layoff. Although I do remember when Baines first came he bossed Ronaldo by taking the game to Utd making him defend more than attack, might be the same idea Sunday or Hibbert might recover in time.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Danny on December 28, 2012, 01:08:54 AM
We have a horrible record against Benitez so i'm not overly optimistic, went for a draw.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Sir Stealth on December 28, 2012, 01:36:38 AM
                  Howard

Neville Jagielka Distin Baines

Naismith Hitzlsperger Osman Pienaar

           Anichebe Jelavic

If Moyes pulls this off with some key players missing this could be one of his greatest victories.  As it is I will be pleased with a point really.  This chelsea team has some great players but also some weaknesses that can be exploited
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 28, 2012, 01:51:40 AM
                  Howard

Neville Jagielka Distin Baines

Naismith Hitzlsperger Osman Pienaar

           Anichebe Jelavic

If Moyes pulls this off with some key players missing this could be one of his greatest victories.  As it is I will be pleased with a point really.  This chelsea team has some great players but also some weaknesses that can be exploited

Was thinking the same today

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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: cantoffee on December 28, 2012, 02:07:29 AM
Not lost to a big team yet, not about to start.

2-1 tight game with Anichebe giving the Chelsea fans Drogba flashbacks by bullying them all over the park.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Cozzie on December 28, 2012, 05:09:57 AM
1-1

Torres to blaze a last minute penalty over the bar.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Confucius on December 28, 2012, 05:28:04 AM
Pienaar does well against Chelsea. It's a pity Fellaini is injured as he would batter Luiz in the midfield.

Going to be a good game. Torres always scores against us so this is a worry.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Shogun on December 28, 2012, 07:12:51 AM
Pienaar does well against Chelsea. It's a pity Fellaini is injured as he would batter Luiz in the midfield.

Going to be a good game. Torres always scores against us so this is a worry.
since when?

Edit: has not scored in his last 7 against us and 5 of those were with Liverpool
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blueski on December 28, 2012, 08:29:26 AM
With the team we're likely to put out there this is going to be a real difficult fixture, a point will be a quite decent result if it can be managed. Our tactics may have to go a bit backwards to earn it though
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Heisenberg on December 28, 2012, 01:13:31 PM
I think this one is all up to moyes. If we sit back and let them play across the midfield we could end up conceding 2 or 3. But if we get in their faces it could be easily the other way round. Key to this game is to utilise Baines and Pienaar and not give them too much respect.  I predict 2-0 chelsea
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Confucius on December 28, 2012, 01:29:59 PM
since when?

Edit: has not scored in his last 7 against us and 5 of those were with Liverpool

I am sure he scored a brace 3 seasons ago for Liverpool at Goodison. Hardly played much against us since. Jags has been good against him but I always remember him scoring against us.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Sir Stealth on December 28, 2012, 04:38:01 PM
I am sure he scored a brace 3 seasons ago for Liverpool at Goodison. Hardly played much against us since. Jags has been good against him but I always remember him scoring against us.

he scored the only goal in the anfield meeting in 07/08 and both goals in their 2-0 goodison win in 08/09. But they are his only goals against us I think. so thats about 3 in 10 against us. Still have to be wary as he still has goals in him
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blargins on December 28, 2012, 05:29:07 PM
Wish we were playing Villa instead.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: TheRam on December 28, 2012, 05:48:24 PM
Jags always has torres in his pocket
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Macca77 on December 28, 2012, 07:13:10 PM
Very confident about this, players will be up for it, Chelsea arnt good as people think, stop Mata playing and you stop them

3-1 us and third place in the prem (after spurs draw at Sunderland :thumbsup:)
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blargins on December 28, 2012, 08:02:00 PM
Very confident about this, players will be up for it, Chelsea arnt good as people think, stop Mata playing and you stop them

3-1 us and third place in the prem (after spurs draw at Sunderland :thumbsup:)

I would love you to be right, though I'd take 2-0 and have the clean sheet :)
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: TheRam on December 28, 2012, 08:59:45 PM
Very confident about this, players will be up for it, Chelsea arnt good as people think, stop Mata playing and you stop them

3-1 us and third place in the prem (after spurs draw at Sunderland :thumbsup:)

stopping mata is easier said than done

Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Shogun on December 28, 2012, 09:01:10 PM

Neil Jones ‏@neiljonesecho
 
Moyes said Seamus Coleman has "a chance" of facing Chelsea. Darron Gibson to be assessed. Kevin Mirallas won't play.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: dunkster on December 28, 2012, 11:40:42 PM
Going to this one so no doubt will be a sucking big pillar in front of me and heavy defeat. Lol
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Thornton_19 on December 29, 2012, 12:32:57 AM
Neil Jones ‏@neiljonesecho
 
Moyes said Seamus Coleman has "a chance" of facing Chelsea. Darron Gibson to be assessed. Kevin Mirallas won't play.

Good news about Coleman, we looked so narrow against Wigan is physically hurt.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Shogun on December 29, 2012, 05:42:52 AM
Warning that a wild fat Spanish waiter appears half way through this video of John Obi Mikel talking about us and Anichebe http://www.evertonfc.com/evertontv/home/8145 (http://www.evertonfc.com/evertontv/home/8145)
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2012, 09:45:40 PM
With Spurs winning, we really have to get a positive result here now. Hopefully WBA and Arsenal will lose.

Let's see if we have the mental strength to take advantage.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Always a Toffeeman on December 30, 2012, 12:34:04 AM
a lad on twitter who has been pretty spot on this last while with line ups says nevilles out.
team to be
howard
jags heitinga distin baines
naismith osman hitz pienaar
anichebe jelavic

just passing on hope that isnt the team
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Shogun on December 30, 2012, 12:42:49 AM
a lad on twitter who has been pretty spot on this last while with line ups says nevilles out.
team to be
howard
jags heitinga distin baines
naismith osman hitz pienaar
anichebe jelavic

just passing on hope that isnt the team

He got it wrong last week
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blueski on December 30, 2012, 01:48:37 AM
will be a tough one if that is the team we will be playing 10 or 11 behind the ball a lot

its a real dissapointment with our players that are out

maybe we will get lucky and someone unexpected will pass fit

Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Maestro Haze on December 30, 2012, 03:02:22 AM
Bloody hell, if that's the team then we are going to struggle.
We got away with it the past two matches but Chelsea are a different class.
Baines, Pienaar and Osman really need to be a the top of their game tomorrow for us to get anything out of this game.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Bluedoc on December 30, 2012, 03:43:33 AM
Really hope that's not the team. Was hoping Coleman back at least.

Starting to worry bit about Gibson if he out yet again.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: TheRam on December 30, 2012, 03:49:54 AM
Whats the point in barkley
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blueski on December 30, 2012, 04:19:44 AM
Both Nevillle and Osman are 1 card short of a ban for this one, so in an ideal world one or both should have been rested given how thin we are at the moment in midfield
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Heisenberg on December 30, 2012, 05:00:14 AM
To  think moyes would start heitenga CB above jags would be an abysmal move considering jags' record against torres
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 30, 2012, 05:04:43 AM
To  think moyes would start heitenga CB above jags would be an abysmal move considering jags' record against torres

Who plays rb then?

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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blargins on December 30, 2012, 05:15:19 AM
Heitinga.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 30, 2012, 05:16:19 AM
Heitinga.

He can't do it whereas jagielka can

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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Sir Stealth on December 30, 2012, 05:54:38 AM
Whats the point in barkley


hes a young squad player who isnt quite ready to play against the european champions
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: TheRam on December 30, 2012, 06:23:47 AM
hes a young squad player who isnt quite ready to play against the european champions

hes wasting the most important part of his career on the bench, its clear moyes isnt gonna play him
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Verm on December 30, 2012, 06:25:42 AM
hes wasting the most important part of his career on the bench, its clear moyes isnt gonna play him



I agree but I do believe Moyes has said he was only recalled because we were short in midfield and he'll most likely be sent back out on loan in Jan.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Always a Toffeeman on December 30, 2012, 07:56:31 AM
He got it wrong last week

he got it right v west ham, but then didnt get it right about hitz starting midweek, i know hes not 100% and would like to hope hes wrong

Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Confucius on December 30, 2012, 02:53:50 PM
Would love us to smash Chelsea 3 or 4-0. Send out a message of intent. Let them know we not going away and we have the goods to get a top 4 place.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: fast lane on December 30, 2012, 04:09:47 PM
Unfortunately can't see this one live, but seen that the pay channel I have repeats the match at 20.20 (19.20 GMT), so not knowing the result, it'll be a live match for me.

A tough one too, they seem to have stepped up a gear after losing very easily to Corinthians in the World Cup Final.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Sir Stealth on December 30, 2012, 04:31:13 PM
Gutted that Im in work for this. A draw would be a good result given how many we are missing. A win and we are in an absoloute dream world!

That Hitz/Osman midfield doesn't fill me with hope. Also we need a massive performance from Heitinga, lets hope he shows us that hes worth keeping

Also Jelavic is due a goal. Am I right in thinking he's never gone 4 games without a goal at us?well this is game number 4 since he last scored
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: fast lane on December 30, 2012, 04:37:05 PM
Gutted that Im in work for this. A draw would be a good result given how many we are missing. A win and we are in an absoloute dream world!

That Hitz/Osman midfield doesn't fill me with hope. Also we need a massive performance from Heitinga, lets hope he shows us that hes worth keeping

Also Jelavic is due a goal. Am I right in thinking he's never gone 4 games without a goal at us?well this is game number 4 since he last scored

Jelavic has really got to show something if we're to get a result today.
Unless Victor shows his magic again, of course.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on December 30, 2012, 05:15:25 PM
Probably be a 1-1 draw. For about the 8th time this season.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Goughie on December 30, 2012, 05:28:00 PM
SS, whos the girl at the bottom of your posts? I like!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: marky v on December 30, 2012, 05:47:55 PM
SS, whos the girl at the bottom of your posts? I like!!!!

a question we all would love to know the answer too
Title: Re: RE: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Silas on December 30, 2012, 05:52:45 PM
Two most important players today are Howard and Heitinga, they play like they have been, we are going to get fucked

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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Derek on December 30, 2012, 05:53:44 PM
Fair enough comment that.


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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Shogun on December 30, 2012, 06:22:08 PM
Got a feeling Naismith is going to score today.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Goughie on December 30, 2012, 06:32:32 PM
Im going for a 2-1 with a Jelavic double. He's due a break.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Shogun on December 30, 2012, 06:34:29 PM
Mikel has been ruled out for Chelsea
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Shogun on December 30, 2012, 06:39:28 PM
Everton XI vs #chelsea : Howard, Jagielka, Baines, Heitinga, Distin, Naismith, Pienaar, Hitzlsperger, Osman, Jelavic, Anichebe
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on December 30, 2012, 06:41:02 PM
a lad on twitter who has been pretty spot on this last while with line ups says nevilles out.
team to be
howard
jags heitinga distin baines
naismith osman hitz pienaar
anichebe jelavic

just passing on hope that isnt the team

spot on this time
Title: Re: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 30, 2012, 06:41:28 PM
We look very weak

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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Azz on December 30, 2012, 06:44:40 PM
Not looking forward to this.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blargins on December 30, 2012, 06:45:20 PM
Oh dear.

Backs against the walls time.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: nomorechang on December 30, 2012, 06:45:40 PM
We look very weak

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It does but with what we have available probably as good as it gets unfortunately
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Shogun on December 30, 2012, 06:51:51 PM
apparently our bench is very inexperienced.


Subs: Mucha, Duffy, Browning, Oviedo, Barkley, Gueye, Vellios
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on December 30, 2012, 06:58:12 PM
Right before your eyes is why Spurs will probably beat us pretty comfortably to 4th.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Shogun on December 30, 2012, 06:59:17 PM
They lost Drogba, We've got the scouse Drogba. Easy win today.

OB mode.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: pjk on December 30, 2012, 07:05:06 PM
Is that the weakest team we've put out this season? Was expecting this to be a really tough test. We will do well to get a point today. A win? I'm ready for disappointment. Hope I'm pleasantly surprised.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: steve81 on December 30, 2012, 07:06:53 PM
heitinga in what happened to neville is he injured
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2012, 07:13:43 PM
Not liking this side, but liking the bench even less.  Fearing the worst here today
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: pjk on December 30, 2012, 07:16:35 PM
heitinga in what happened to neville is he injured






A knee problem apparently. Time for Jonny to step up to the plate. It's a new contract, or shop window time.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Silas on December 30, 2012, 07:18:52 PM
I hope we don't play for a draw, we need to try and get forward.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2012, 07:19:34 PM
I hope we don't play for a draw, we need to try and get forward.

This although I cant see it
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blob on December 30, 2012, 07:20:16 PM
not confident, but ever hopeful. coyb!
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blargins on December 30, 2012, 07:20:57 PM
Charlatan, you need to do something with your sig. It's making posts really long.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blueToffee on December 30, 2012, 07:21:39 PM
Did we rush Neville back too soon? As has been said the bench is very scary looking. I can see us not making any changes unless enforced,
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2012, 07:27:27 PM
Charlatan, you need to do something with your sig. It's making posts really long.

Sorted just for you sweetheart x
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Cozzie on December 30, 2012, 07:27:55 PM
COYB!
Title: Re: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: BrotherEstapol on December 30, 2012, 07:28:27 PM
Tyias Browning?

Who's this lad?

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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Sir Stealth on December 30, 2012, 07:31:17 PM
with our absentees, this is the best team he could field.  a draw would be a good result
Title: Re: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Bally on December 30, 2012, 07:32:56 PM
Steve the fucking shithouse McMahon in the studio on my stream

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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blargins on December 30, 2012, 07:33:43 PM
Sorted just for you sweetheart x

Thanks me lovely.

What's the minute's silence for btw?
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: steve81 on December 30, 2012, 07:34:33 PM
Thanks me lovely.

What's the minute's silence for btw?
Everton are observing a minute's applause for those associated with the club who passed away this year.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blob on December 30, 2012, 07:34:44 PM
fucking get in !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: BrotherEstapol on December 30, 2012, 07:35:12 PM
What a start!

Fucking quality.

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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: steve81 on December 30, 2012, 07:35:24 PM
yesssssssssssssssssssssssss
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2012, 07:35:30 PM
Get the fuck in!!!!   Forwards not defend now
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Cozzie on December 30, 2012, 07:36:01 PM
Now kick on Everton! Come on!
Title: Re: RE: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Silas on December 30, 2012, 07:36:10 PM
Skygo is a minute behind, superb start!

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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blargins on December 30, 2012, 07:36:48 PM
Just flashed up on Fox Sports, Pienaar first career goal for Arsenal. wtf lol
Title: Re: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: BrotherEstapol on December 30, 2012, 07:36:49 PM
Liked how jela moved out of the way for Pienaar too.

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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2012, 07:37:25 PM
Get a cap on Howard before you throw one into your own net (again)
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blargins on December 30, 2012, 07:37:41 PM
Everton are observing a minute's applause for those associated with the club who passed away this year.

Ah thanks.

Nice gesture.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: minty on December 30, 2012, 07:40:41 PM
i don't think the bench is so bad. Oviedo and Vellios have produced good stuff at times and that Barkley is supposed to be a decent prospect.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blob on December 30, 2012, 07:41:43 PM
jelavic hits the post. damn.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Azz on December 30, 2012, 07:41:47 PM
Fucking hell!
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2012, 07:41:49 PM
Jammy bastards  :headbang:
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: steve81 on December 30, 2012, 07:42:40 PM
shite
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: steve81 on December 30, 2012, 07:47:51 PM
need a second here while we are on it
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blob on December 30, 2012, 07:48:04 PM
hope i'm not speaking too soon, today, but the better the team we play, the better we play.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2012, 07:48:17 PM
Fuck off Webb you corrupt bellend
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: steve81 on December 30, 2012, 07:48:19 PM
Opta Joe tweets: "Everton have now hit the woodwork 16 times in the Premier League this season, more than any other side."
Title: Re: RE: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Silas on December 30, 2012, 07:49:51 PM
Entire team exceptional so far

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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Cods on December 30, 2012, 07:50:16 PM
Opta Joe tweets: "Everton have now hit the woodwork 16 times in the Premier League this season, more than any other side."

16 more we should have had on target!
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Cods on December 30, 2012, 07:51:33 PM
Must sleep, need to be up in 5hrs for work! :(
Title: Re: RE: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: minty on December 30, 2012, 07:52:39 PM
Entire team exceptional so far

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I dunno i think pienaar is carrying the midfiled. Osman and even more so Hitz have been anonymous. Jags and naisith have looked a decent combo though.

P.S I think osman could be slower than heitinga and neville. If you watch him he takes so long to get back into position defensively and players get past/round him so easily as ramires did there.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blargins on December 30, 2012, 07:53:12 PM
Take a sickie and watch the game Cods :)
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blob on December 30, 2012, 07:53:20 PM
both vic and osman, the much publicised weak-links, are playing well.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: IUToffee on December 30, 2012, 07:55:13 PM
both vic and osman, the much publicised weak-links, are playing well.

Osman is a weak link? He's arguably our best player this year.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blargins on December 30, 2012, 07:55:38 PM
I hate to say it, but we need another goal before HT.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Cods on December 30, 2012, 07:56:21 PM
Take a sickie and watch the game Cods :)
Would love to mate. No Telly or internet atm, so am ultra-reliant on NSNO!  COYBs!

Are we still buzzing?


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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blob on December 30, 2012, 07:56:40 PM
Osman is a weak link? He's arguably our best player this year.

i agree, mate, but read all the threads and you'll see what i mean.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2012, 07:57:41 PM
Would love to mate. No Telly or internet atm,

/pedant mode on/
How you on here then? ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2012, 07:58:54 PM
Bastard.  Unlucky Ossie
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blob on December 30, 2012, 07:59:18 PM
ffs, we could easily be 3 up!
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: minty on December 30, 2012, 07:59:45 PM
In before sharpattack: Another sitter missed- expect that to cost us again!
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blargins on December 30, 2012, 07:59:54 PM
Would love to mate. No Telly or internet atm, so am ultra-reliant on NSNO!  COYBs!

Are we still buzzing?


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Ah ok. We're holding our own at the moment. Nearly scored from Osman just then. Good save Cech.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 30, 2012, 08:00:05 PM
Naismith winning plenty of headers. Want the lad to do well, works so hard.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Cods on December 30, 2012, 08:00:45 PM
/pedant mode on/
How you on here then? ;)
Quite right charlatan. No PC to be able to stream the match i should have said. mobile-tapatalk-only ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blargins on December 30, 2012, 08:00:46 PM
51/49 possession in favor of Chelsea.
Title: Re: RE: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Silas on December 30, 2012, 08:02:19 PM
That is the Howard we need

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Title: Re: RE: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Silas on December 30, 2012, 08:05:33 PM
Big Vic and jelavic working well today

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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2012, 08:06:11 PM
Fucking hell
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blob on December 30, 2012, 08:06:14 PM
phew...............
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blargins on December 30, 2012, 08:07:16 PM
How did that not go in? Phew.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 30, 2012, 08:08:40 PM
any one got a stream?
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 30, 2012, 08:09:52 PM
Big Vic and jelavic working well today

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I suggested they would play well together a few weeks ago. Some may even say I 'called it'......


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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: keverton1971 on December 30, 2012, 08:10:17 PM
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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 30, 2012, 08:10:44 PM
any one got a stream?

It's more like a river at the moment...   


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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: slothzen on December 30, 2012, 08:12:03 PM
Distin has Torres wrapped up.  The entire team is defending like their lives depended on it.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2012, 08:13:28 PM
Fuck off Webb you cheating cunt
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blob on December 30, 2012, 08:14:44 PM
fuck. that's been coming :(
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: steve81 on December 30, 2012, 08:15:47 PM
said we needed another cant defend for 90 minutes
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blargins on December 30, 2012, 08:15:57 PM
Said we needed a second. Bastard. All from that Webb free kick that never was.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: steve81 on December 30, 2012, 08:16:17 PM
cunt lampard again always scores against us
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: minty on December 30, 2012, 08:16:27 PM
Was that Heitinga who lost him?

Him, osman and Hitz just can't defend. We going to need 3 or 4 to win.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blueToffee on December 30, 2012, 08:16:36 PM
Dang it. Always thought we'd have to score again to win though.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Danny on December 30, 2012, 08:17:27 PM
Fucks sake, we better win this cba with the pundits claiming it's a bad thing to score early.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: steve81 on December 30, 2012, 08:17:31 PM
heitinga again
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Cods on December 30, 2012, 08:17:48 PM
One back before HT?
Title: Re: RE: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Silas on December 30, 2012, 08:18:06 PM
Got our standard concede out the way, time to push on second half

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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2012, 08:18:32 PM
Let them ref the game why don't you Webb??  Useless, cheating twat.  Always been the same reffing us
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Derek on December 30, 2012, 08:18:58 PM
We are vulnerable. If we can bury more of out chances we can win, although I wouldn't fancy us to hold out a one goal advantage.

On a side note: how absolutely shit are the Chelsea fans?


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Title: Re: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Bally on December 30, 2012, 08:19:45 PM
Howard Webb is a blind baldy cunt missed both goals because of stream freezing out , cunt

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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: steve81 on December 30, 2012, 08:19:53 PM
never keep a clean sheet what is wrong with us
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Cozzie on December 30, 2012, 08:19:58 PM
Our worst ever premiership run without a clean sheet.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blob on December 30, 2012, 08:20:11 PM
that half flew by. really enjoyed it....apart from the obvious blip.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2012, 08:20:30 PM
Great 1st half, unlucky to not be ahead.  Just hope we can keep the workrate up 2nd half, and somebody needs to go thru Mata as he's starting to run the game
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Shogun on December 30, 2012, 08:21:04 PM
don't get annoyed when we concede anymore, it's become an inevitability. We've done superbly with all the injuries we've got and Fellaini being out. Naismith's done well.

Let's nick one in the second half, COYB!
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: steve81 on December 30, 2012, 08:21:31 PM
streaks of Everton continue: scored for 17th straight match, conceded for 15th straight match.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Polledreng on December 30, 2012, 08:22:03 PM
Was that Heitinga who lost him?

Him, osman and Hitz just can't defend. We going to need 3 or 4 to win.
But then Naismith and Jags were mutch closer than Osman and Hitz
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: American Evertonian on December 30, 2012, 08:23:48 PM
Just tuned in on the radio and read a twitter timeline....How many goal opportunities did we blow?
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Fynci on December 30, 2012, 08:23:52 PM
Good first half. We would be mad not to extend Hitz contract. He is a tidy and composed player.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: minty on December 30, 2012, 08:24:33 PM
But then Naismith and Jags were mutch closer than Osman and Hitz

Yeah more referring to osman being dribbled past by ramires and Mata for Chelsea's best two other chances.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Gash on December 30, 2012, 08:24:52 PM
Just tuned in on the radio and read a twitter timeline....How many goal opportunities did we blow?

None.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: slothzen on December 30, 2012, 08:24:56 PM
Just tuned in on the radio and read a twitter timeline....How many goal opportunities did we blow?
2 or 3, Cech with two good saves, though.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blob on December 30, 2012, 08:25:22 PM
Just tuned in on the radio and read a twitter timeline....How many goal opportunities did we blow?

hit the post 3 times, but scored from one of the rebounds.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: pjk on December 30, 2012, 08:25:37 PM
Quite a good first half considering.the team that's out there. Jelavic deserves a goal.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Risky on December 30, 2012, 08:25:44 PM
Real kick in the teeth that equaliser, as we well deserve to be ahead at half time.  We're getting overrun in the centre of midfield more and more though, although I'm not really too sure what can be done to stop it especially as we can't really shift Heitinga in to midfield given our RB woes.

Pienaar and Anichebe have been fantastic so far.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Shogun on December 30, 2012, 08:26:01 PM
Ba to Chelsea?
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: sharpattack on December 30, 2012, 08:26:21 PM
Tyias Browning?

Who's this lad?

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I've just been on the OS and he isnt even listed as a player. Mind you, the OS has Neville and Gibson playing today
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: TheRam on December 30, 2012, 08:27:15 PM
How was that goal heitingad fault?
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Shogun on December 30, 2012, 08:27:39 PM
Tyias Browning is a right back, looks good going forward from the highlights of u21 games.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: American Evertonian on December 30, 2012, 08:28:33 PM
Ugh....Sucks to know we could have had more once again. On the offhand I'm happy to hear big Vic is playing well
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 30, 2012, 08:28:54 PM
Just tuned in on the radio and read a twitter timeline....How many goal opportunities did we blow?
twelvety


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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Cods on December 30, 2012, 08:30:26 PM
Good night and good luck!
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: steve81 on December 30, 2012, 08:31:20 PM
Sky Sports have just reported that Chelsea are reportedly meeting with representatives of Newcastle to discuss the potential transfer of Demba Ba. Ba, as is widely known, has a release clause in his contract of £7.5m.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: BrotherEstapol on December 30, 2012, 08:31:22 PM
I've just been on the OS and he isnt even listed as a player. Mind you, the OS has Neville and Gibson playing today
Must be doing something right to get on the bench though!

I saw him at during the pre match coverage in the tunnel. Looks very young...wonder if he's a local lad?

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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Shogun on December 30, 2012, 08:33:25 PM
Wonder if we will see Barkley?
Title: Re: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Gash on December 30, 2012, 08:34:37 PM
Turnbull on for Cech.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 30, 2012, 08:34:49 PM
Great news. Cech has gone off injured.


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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Risky on December 30, 2012, 08:34:53 PM
Turnbull on, that's a huge slice of luck for us and we've got to take advantage.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Azz on December 30, 2012, 08:35:05 PM
Cech is off.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blueToffee on December 30, 2012, 08:35:52 PM
Cech subbed..? Must be injured.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blueToffee on December 30, 2012, 08:37:20 PM
Must be doing something right to get on the bench though!

I saw him at during the pre match coverage in the tunnel. Looks very young...wonder if he's a local lad?

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Does not being injured count as doing something right ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blob on December 30, 2012, 08:40:22 PM
webb is getting on my tits. bastard.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: minty on December 30, 2012, 08:45:10 PM
Again our cente rmid is non existent. Lucky Distin is having another great game.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 30, 2012, 08:46:36 PM
We need to score again. Soon.


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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 30, 2012, 08:49:23 PM
Good job luiz is rubbish. With a proper midfielder on Chelsea would be all over us.


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Title: Re: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Gash on December 30, 2012, 08:49:36 PM
Shocking how often Jelavic is getting caught offside these days. That one was tight, but it's too often and just puts us back under pressure.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: steve81 on December 30, 2012, 08:50:43 PM
everton havent shown up in this half coyb
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: slothzen on December 30, 2012, 08:51:02 PM
think he was actually onside that time.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: slothzen on December 30, 2012, 08:52:02 PM
Osman chewing his cheeks...
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Amata on December 30, 2012, 08:53:21 PM
Need a bit more composure in the middle of the park.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: slothzen on December 30, 2012, 08:53:41 PM
Second time howard gave away our advantage
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 30, 2012, 08:55:18 PM
Naismith!


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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Amata on December 30, 2012, 08:56:53 PM
Naismith and Hitz off for Oviedo and Barkley
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: steve81 on December 30, 2012, 08:57:28 PM
Naismith!


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i thought we had scored then damn it
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blob on December 30, 2012, 08:57:33 PM
we're slipping into the dreaded 9-0-1 again.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Derek on December 30, 2012, 08:57:35 PM
Great ebb and flow this game. Entertaining.

They have us in the midfield and we are quite stretched.


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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2012, 08:59:13 PM
Unlucky Ossie again
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blob on December 30, 2012, 08:59:16 PM
shit! how close was that again!

ffs, bar again!!
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2012, 08:59:58 PM
Jammy bastards
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Azz on December 30, 2012, 08:59:59 PM
Fucking hell again!
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Derek on December 30, 2012, 09:00:32 PM
Crikey! Could've easily been 2-1!


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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2012, 09:01:42 PM
Fucking Naismith is like a schoolboy
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blob on December 30, 2012, 09:02:15 PM
fucking lampard, again :(
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blueToffee on December 30, 2012, 09:02:26 PM
F
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2012, 09:02:43 PM
Fuck off
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 30, 2012, 09:02:44 PM
Fuck off lampard.


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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: NomadskiEFC on December 30, 2012, 09:03:00 PM
Soooo close Jelavic. How aren't we winning this game.

Aaaaand bastard scores again.


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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: steve81 on December 30, 2012, 09:03:07 PM
shit again cant score and cant defend
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2012, 09:03:22 PM
That cunt is shite all year, then has a field day against us
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: whirlwind82 on December 30, 2012, 09:03:37 PM
what kind  of fucking shite clearance was that
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Azz on December 30, 2012, 09:03:42 PM
That fucking prick once again!
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: sam of the south on December 30, 2012, 09:03:55 PM
Sickening  shakeyheadman
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Cozzie on December 30, 2012, 09:04:09 PM
Feels like my guts have been torn out, how the fuck are we behind, fuck off, just fucking fuck off.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: steve81 on December 30, 2012, 09:04:19 PM
midfield is non existant again
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Danny on December 30, 2012, 09:04:23 PM
This is exactly how every derby went when Benitez was Liverpools manager
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Amata on December 30, 2012, 09:04:58 PM
Changes Moyes!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: minty on December 30, 2012, 09:06:06 PM
What was Heitinga doing chasing outside the box? He only got back to the penalty spot when we needed him close to the line. 3 or 4 chelsea players were ahead of him.
Title: Re: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Bally on December 30, 2012, 09:06:23 PM
Fat fucking cockney twat every fucking time how the fuck are we behind, and that slideshow fucking Bob headed cunt shouldn't be on the pitch the dirty twat lost count of how many fouls he's committed fucking twat

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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 30, 2012, 09:06:30 PM
Tolis coming on?


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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blueToffee on December 30, 2012, 09:08:27 PM
Barkley on for Hitz.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blob on December 30, 2012, 09:08:30 PM
barkley. here's hoping.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Azz on December 30, 2012, 09:08:51 PM
Here he comes to save the day.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2012, 09:09:32 PM
Fat fucking cockney twat every fucking time how the fuck are we behind, and that slideshow fucking Bob headed cunt shouldn't be on the pitch the dirty twat lost count of how many fouls he's committed fucking twat

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This all over.  I hate Webb more than any of the other useless cunts that ruin our games every week
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blueToffee on December 30, 2012, 09:10:43 PM
How is that a foul?
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blob on December 30, 2012, 09:10:57 PM
distin doesn't deserve to be on the losing side. magnificent again today.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2012, 09:11:10 PM
How is that a foul?

See above
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blueToffee on December 30, 2012, 09:11:21 PM
Weird - Pienaar off for Oviedo.
Title: Re: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: BrotherEstapol on December 30, 2012, 09:12:51 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/30/u2aratah.jpg)

FUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKK!

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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Rob Burns on December 30, 2012, 09:13:27 PM
fark, just lost the channel. Not a stream, the TV channel.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2012, 09:14:05 PM
Why the fuck wasnt Ramires booked for that?  Diving bastard
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: irishtoffee on December 30, 2012, 09:15:37 PM
pienaar rubbing his thigh a bit when he came off
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blueToffee on December 30, 2012, 09:18:26 PM
We are playing at the wrong end here.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: steve81 on December 30, 2012, 09:18:41 PM
coyb
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on December 30, 2012, 09:20:06 PM
missing too many key players and it has showed big time in the second half, unlucky with woodwork too
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blueToffee on December 30, 2012, 09:21:21 PM
Poor from Barkley there.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Amata on December 30, 2012, 09:21:24 PM
Barkley guilty of giving it away a few times now
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blueToffee on December 30, 2012, 09:21:48 PM
And really poor from Heitinga too.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Danny on December 30, 2012, 09:22:19 PM
Distin is the obvious man of the match but that pleb Alan Smith will give it to Lampard
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Fynci on December 30, 2012, 09:22:59 PM
That is why Barkley is not playing. A long way for him to go.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blueToffee on December 30, 2012, 09:23:47 PM
How are we not testing this keeper more. Unfortunately we've gone backward with the subs.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blueToffee on December 30, 2012, 09:24:02 PM
Jelavic - no!
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Azz on December 30, 2012, 09:24:06 PM
Fucking hell Jelly!
Title: Re: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Gash on December 30, 2012, 09:24:44 PM
Can see now why Barkley isn't getting games.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blueToffee on December 30, 2012, 09:25:09 PM
That is why Barkley is not playing. A long way for him to go.

He played well last time out. You are bound to get ups and downs with a young player.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blob on December 30, 2012, 09:25:22 PM
fuck
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: blueToffee on December 30, 2012, 09:26:29 PM
Crap. Deserved more from that. A draw would have probably been fair despite our early domination.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Derek on December 30, 2012, 09:27:01 PM
Slim margins. Few positives, more negatives but important they're set into the context.



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Title: Re: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Bally on December 30, 2012, 09:27:04 PM
Bollocks distin was fucking amazing though

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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: buededw1 on December 30, 2012, 09:27:21 PM
That is why Barkley is not playing. A long way for him to go.

lads played about 5mins of football, his twice the player of Naismith
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Cozzie on December 30, 2012, 09:27:38 PM
What an absolutely awful way to lose our unbeaten home record, we never deserved that what so ever, hit the post twice and should have made them chances count in the first half.

Watch how everyone bums lampard now and he will do fuck all for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: steve81 on December 30, 2012, 09:27:43 PM
home record gone really need to strengthen in january but wont jelavic needs dropping and hitz and naismith are dogshite
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Mozza1987 on December 30, 2012, 09:28:00 PM
How the fuck did we lose that! What's happened to Jelavic. Barkley showed me nothing when he came on for him to be playing.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: marky v on December 30, 2012, 09:28:05 PM
Shows how good we really are that side we put out today against them was weak yet we deserved something from the game, just a shame that prick walks away with a win
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Thom on December 30, 2012, 09:28:07 PM
Gutted that we've lost that. Chelsea had the better chances in the second half but we absolutely deserved a point for that performance today.

Pienaar, Distin and Osman the stand outs for me.
Title: Re: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: pjk on December 30, 2012, 09:28:22 PM
Can see now why Barkley isn't getting games.




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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Fern on December 30, 2012, 09:28:31 PM
i cant believe the ref- seemed that he wanted to give them soft free-kicks at every opportunity and us, the opposite
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: cantoffee on December 30, 2012, 09:28:40 PM
Not to be today. Once again we failed to finish our chances, we could have been 2 or 3-nil up before their first goal.

Osman's movement and link up play on the edge of the box is magnificent but the amount of times he's had a shot from 18 yards right in the middle and has been unable to score is criminal.

Lots to work on but I think MGP was right when he said that the bench today is the difference between us and fourth. Unless our players come back soon and we have only minor injuries this year we just don't have the depth to make it.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: ilikebrunettes on December 30, 2012, 09:28:54 PM
Jelavic has regressed hugely. He needs dropping
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Shogun on December 30, 2012, 09:29:10 PM
Webb pissed me off no end towards the end of that game.

Need three points at Newcastle now
Title: Re: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 30, 2012, 09:29:52 PM
Good effort there. Deserved a point

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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: steve81 on December 30, 2012, 09:30:00 PM
desperately need a striker and centre midfield playmaker
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on December 30, 2012, 09:30:04 PM
Said it all along. Jelavic is just not the player a lot of people would like to think he is.

He scored a bagfull of goals in Scotland cos he was getting dozens of chances every game.

Time to come to terms with the fact he's a 10-15 goal a season striker at best and nothing like the 20+ people were hoping we had on our hands last season.

And at the rate he's scoring just now, and the form he's been in all season can you really see him even bagging 10 league goals this year?
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Polledreng on December 30, 2012, 09:30:07 PM
Gutted that we've lost that. Chelsea had the better chances in the second half but we absolutely deserved a point for that performance today.

Pienaar, Distin and Osman the stand outs for me.
this
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2012, 09:30:10 PM
Unlucky blues, deserved better than that.  Fucked over by a twat of a club, with a twat of a manager, twatty dirty cynical players and gobshite plastic fans.  Still, at least Webb's pools coupon will have come in - the horrible corrupt cunt.

Distin was fucking awesome today
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Shogun on December 30, 2012, 09:30:16 PM
Jelavic has regressed hugely. He needs dropping

No surprise you're here.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: marky v on December 30, 2012, 09:30:25 PM
Jelavic worked his bollocks off same as Anichebe
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 30, 2012, 09:31:16 PM
No surprise you're here.

Very well said

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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: ilikebrunettes on December 30, 2012, 09:31:56 PM
Jelavic worked his bollocks off same as Anichebe

But that isn't good enough. He is always offside and just isn't clinical
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: marky v on December 30, 2012, 09:32:24 PM
Maybe this is the game people in the media stop saying Ashley Cole is still better than Baines (inc Moyes for some reason)
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: marky v on December 30, 2012, 09:32:57 PM
But that isn't good enough. He is always offside and just isn't clinical

anyone on the books a better option?
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Shogun on December 30, 2012, 09:33:02 PM
Jelavic hit the woodwork twice, massive knee jerking.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: steve81 on December 30, 2012, 09:33:08 PM
only good is only have a couple of days to we play again
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Mozza1987 on December 30, 2012, 09:33:53 PM
Thought Anichebe was great today worked his socks off, sure people will still slate him! Distin was class though
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: ilikebrunettes on December 30, 2012, 09:33:57 PM
No surprise you're here.

Havent said much wrong.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2012, 09:33:59 PM
Jelavic hit the woodwork twice, massive knee jerking.

This, he's been looking a lot better the last few weeks
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: marky v on December 30, 2012, 09:34:26 PM
only good is only have a couple of days to we play again

with our injuries i'd have rather us have 2 weeks off to recover
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: minty on December 30, 2012, 09:34:39 PM
Jelavic worked his bollocks off same as Anichebe

Yeah he hit the bar twice from tough chances and Vellios blocked his sight for the last one which was also on his weaker foot. If we had more options maybe he could use a rest but we don't and have to count on him getting back to his best.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: pjk on December 30, 2012, 09:35:00 PM
But that isn't good enough. He is always offside and just isn't clinical




He puts in the effort whether he scores or not. Jelavic is class. That header that hit the bar was awesome.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: steve81 on December 30, 2012, 09:35:30 PM
with our injuries i'd have rather us have 2 weeks off to recover
yeah true although newcastle also have a few injuries
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: whirlwind82 on December 30, 2012, 09:35:37 PM
Jelavic worked his bollocks off same as Anichebe

And?? Surely thats the bare minimum requirement?
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: the roy vernon plan on December 30, 2012, 09:36:35 PM
Some great performances from Distin, Baines, Pienar, Osman, and Victor.

Heitenga has lost his edge. Duffy , I am sure would have won that header in the box in the first half.

EFC outplayed Chelsea for long periods but luck was not with us today.
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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on December 30, 2012, 09:37:40 PM
Jelavic hit the woodwork twice, massive knee jerking.

And air swiped a great chance from 6 yards out. Been piss poor all season. No knee jerking whatsoever.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Risky on December 30, 2012, 09:37:59 PM
Jelavic is really low on confidence, but he was hugely unlucky not to be on the scoresheet today.  It's not good that his slump has carried on this long, but that's what it is - a slump that he will get out of.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: nomorechang on December 30, 2012, 09:37:59 PM
We never got that extra goal we needed  when we were completely on top that's cost us so many points this season. If we can resolve that we can beat anyone.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: keverton1971 on December 30, 2012, 09:38:15 PM
proud of our team today! playing against some class players.worked their bollocks off and should have won if luck was with us! c.o.y.b.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: cantoffee on December 30, 2012, 09:38:32 PM
Jelavic still gets chances and his movement is still very good.

I agree with MGP that I had my doubts last season as to whether he was a 20 goal a season striker. I think 15 is more accurate and given the price we paid for him that's quite a good return.

Still, he will hit form at some point and go on a mini run, it won't go in for him at the moment but like I said he's still getting chances and that's a good sign.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: marky v on December 30, 2012, 09:39:04 PM
And?? Surely thats the bare minimum requirement?

oh ok then just for you - he ran his bollocks off, gave the defenders a hard time, hit the post and hit the bar
Title: Re: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: BrotherEstapol on December 30, 2012, 09:41:52 PM
Now I remember why I don't look at these threads.

Some wild exaggerations here...


Given its 2:30am here, I think I'll head to bed...but chin up boys, we lost despite outplaying an in-form team while missing some key players. Today just wasn't our day!

Sent from the Nightclub in Royston Drenthe's Basement.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: whirlwind82 on December 30, 2012, 09:43:10 PM
oh ok then just for you - he ran his bollocks off, gave the defenders a hard time, hit the post and hit the bar

Im not saying he was shit, he done okay nothing more, Its just that people say he worked his socks off like it is a major achievement and he should get a shit load of praise for it. Its not. It should be expected. And you missed out the fact he missed a sitter and got caught offside countless times
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Amata on December 30, 2012, 09:44:11 PM
A few excellent performances and a couple of below par ones today.  Im dissapointed with the result but we had our 3 main midfielders out (Gibson, Mirallas and Fellaini) and played our best CB at RB against some top class players.  I would have like to see the changes before they scored to give us some fresh legs as Naismith and Hitz were already tired and letting runners go, leaving gaps everywhere.

I thought Oviedo and Vellios done well when they come on and Distin was superb.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on December 30, 2012, 09:45:07 PM
Jelavic is really low on confidence, but he was hugely unlucky not to be on the scoresheet today.  It's not good that his slump has carried on this long, but that's what it is - a slump that he will get out of.

l dont agree that he looks short on confidence. Im also not sure he was unlucky to be on the scoresheet. l only saw the header that hit the bar but it was more like a stooping header that could have gone anywhere and it just so happened to come off the top of the bar.

He's got enough ability to convert chances, and when we have all our players back and hopefully a couple of additions in january to start to score again. My point is that a lot of people still seem to think he's good enough to be the difference between champions league and europa or mid table. Im afraid he simply is not.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: cantoffee on December 30, 2012, 09:48:41 PM
l dont agree that he looks short on confidence. Im also not sure he was unlucky to be on the scoresheet. l only saw the header that hit the bar but it was more like a stooping header that could have gone anywhere and it just so happened to come off the top of the bar.

He's got enough ability to convert chances, and when we have all our players back and hopefully a couple of additions in january to start to score again. My point is that a lot of people still seem to think he's good enough to be the difference between champions league and europa or mid table. Im afraid he simply is not.

Yes but Fellaini and Mirallas might be that difference.

But I agree with you that I do not think Jelavic is the top level striker we need, but he's what we have and the fact that as a team we have continued to score despite his slump is very good.

When he hits form we will be on a good run almost surely.

I have bigger concerns regarding our inability to keep a clean sheet, although today is probably more down to not converting chances.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: marky v on December 30, 2012, 09:49:54 PM
Im not saying he was shit, he done okay nothing more, Its just that people say he worked his socks off like it is a major achievement and he should get a shit load of praise for it. Its not. It should be expected. And you missed out the fact he missed a sitter and got caught offside countless times

it shows his attitude is right and he's worth sticking with and not dropping, his performances are not bad he is just not scoring so many,

it's funny how people think we should drop him but for who? we don't have the options and even if we changed the formation just to accomodate vic as a loan front man who was then meant to come into midfield, were completley out of options,

for me he would stay in the team he'll play himself out of a dry goals spell
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Risky on December 30, 2012, 09:50:17 PM
l dont agree that he looks short on confidence. Im also not sure he was unlucky to be on the scoresheet. l only saw the header that hit the bar but it was more like a stooping header that could have gone anywhere and it just so happened to come off the top of the bar.

He's got enough ability to convert chances, and when we have all our players back and hopefully a couple of additions in january to start to score again. My point is that a lot of people still seem to think he's good enough to be the difference between champions league and europa or mid table. Im afraid he simply is not.

He's clearly short on confidence and it can be seen in the way he's taking chances on when he has too much time to think over recent games.  He hit the post and the bar today with two good efforts, if that's not enough to be classed as unlucky not to score then I'm not sure what bizarre measures you prefer to use.

I can see you're on an agenda post here and wanting to make a point, and some of it is true.  It's naive to expect him to have continued scoring at almost a goal a game.  He is however one of the better goalscorers in the league who is in a poor run of form.  He'll get back amongst the goals hopefully soon, and his goals will make a difference for us.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: pjk on December 30, 2012, 09:51:12 PM
l dont agree that he looks short on confidence. Im also not sure he was unlucky to be on the scoresheet. l only saw the header that hit the bar but it was more like a stooping header that could have gone anywhere and it just so happened to come off the top of the bar.

He's got enough ability to convert chances, and when we have all our players back and hopefully a couple of additions in january to start to score again. My point is that a lot of people still seem to think he's good enough to be the difference between champions league and europa or mid table. Im afraid he simply is not.





Will have to take another look at that on MOD.





Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Danny on December 30, 2012, 09:51:22 PM
l dont agree that he looks short on confidence. Im also not sure he was unlucky to be on the scoresheet. l only saw the header that hit the bar but it was more like a stooping header that could have gone anywhere and it just so happened to come off the top of the bar.

He's got enough ability to convert chances, and when we have all our players back and hopefully a couple of additions in january to start to score again. My point is that a lot of people still seem to think he's good enough to be the difference between champions league and europa or mid table. Im afraid he simply is not.

I can only remember him hitting the post from the freekick and the low shot that Cech tipped wide, other than that didn't think he was effective.

Anyone know when Mirallas and Coleman are back? Not heard anything.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: NomadskiEFC on December 30, 2012, 09:58:21 PM
We shouldn't forget that while we unluckily lost the game, we did just make the European Champions look extremely ordinary.

And Lampard has a curse on us.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: marky v on December 30, 2012, 09:58:24 PM
"I think we are a little unlucky not to get at least a draw today. The players could not have done any more. They gave everything they could and we played very well, but we came up a little short at the end.

"We tried to score throughout the game and we made it difficult for Chelsea. Our players put in a great shift, and all teams at this time of the season are suffering from injuries and suspensions. But that shouldn't take anything away from how good we were today - we went very close to bwating the European champions."

David Moyes comments after the match taken from the BBC site, wonder if he said twatting or beating?
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on December 30, 2012, 09:59:00 PM
We've played alot worse at home this season and picked u points. We certainly didn't deserve to lose that, lady luck deserted us today and on another day we might have had 2-3 or three. some of you lot need to get of individual players backs and stop having a dig.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Alanvideo on December 30, 2012, 10:04:17 PM
I thought every player gave 100% today. We were short of 3 or 4 of our best players and had others playing out of position. We didn't take our chances when we were on top and were beaten by a very good side who will finish 2nd or 3rd. Disappointed but very proud of our team.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on December 30, 2012, 10:07:24 PM
He's clearly short on confidence and it can be seen in the way he's taking chances on when he has too much time to think over recent games.  He hit the post and the bar today with two good efforts, if that's not enough to be classed as unlucky not to score then I'm not sure what bizarre measures you prefer to use.

I can see you're on an agenda post here and wanting to make a point, and some of it is true.  It's naive to expect him to have continued scoring at almost a goal a game.  He is however one of the better goalscorers in the league who is in a poor run of form.  He'll get back amongst the goals hopefully soon, and his goals will make a difference for us.

As i've said, i never saw the one which hit the post so cant possibly comment on that but his header which hit the bar, he never once had his eyes on goal so couldnt direct it anywhere purposefuly. He more stooped to get to a ball which was not at head height and tried to get some sort of glance on it to direct it towards goal. Not as if he's forced a keeper into a top class save or seen a goalbound shot deflected wide.

Agenda post? You mean im just repeating what i've said all along in that he's not as good as what people had hoped for. Is it an agenda or just cold hard facts?
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: TheRam on December 30, 2012, 10:14:09 PM
As i've said, i never saw the one which hit the post so cant possibly comment on that but his header which hit the bar, he never once had his eyes on goal so couldnt direct it anywhere purposefuly. He more stooped to get to a ball which was not at head height and tried to get some sort of glance on it to direct it towards goal. Not as if he's forced a keeper into a top class save or seen a goalbound shot deflected wide.

Agenda post? You mean im just repeating what i've said all along in that he's not as good as what people had hoped for. Is it an agenda or just cold hard facts?

dont you know that if you criticise a player on here it means you have an agenda against them and take joy in them failing.how dare you critisise a player
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Risky on December 30, 2012, 10:14:12 PM
As i've said, i never saw the one which hit the post so cant possibly comment on that but his header which hit the bar, he never once had his eyes on goal so couldnt direct it anywhere purposefuly. He more stooped to get to a ball which was not at head height and tried to get some sort of glance on it to direct it towards goal. Not as if he's forced a keeper into a top class save or seen a goalbound shot deflected wide.

Agenda post? You mean im just repeating what i've said all along in that he's not as good as what people had hoped for. Is it an agenda or just cold hard facts?

So because he's not looked at the goal before the header it's somehow not as good? Ok then.  As I saw it he made a good run, got on the end of a difficult cross, directed his header really well, and was unlucky that it came off the bar. Good strikers know where the goal is without looking, that's kind of basic stuff yet you're using the fact that he didn't look at the goal as something to downplay his effort with?  Bizarre again.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: pjk on December 30, 2012, 10:16:11 PM
As i've said, i never saw the one which hit the post so cant possibly comment on that but his header which hit the bar, he never once had his eyes on goal so couldnt direct it anywhere purposefuly. He more stooped to get to a ball which was not at head height and tried to get some sort of glance on it to direct it towards goal. Not as if he's forced a keeper into a top class save or seen a goalbound shot deflected wide.

Agenda post? You mean im just repeating what i've said all along in that he's not as good as what people had hoped for. Is it an agenda or just cold hard facts?




As I said, I will take another look at it on MOD.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Everton Mint on December 30, 2012, 10:16:18 PM
I thought every player gave 100% today. We were short of 3 or 4 of our best players and had others playing out of position. We didn't take our chances when we were on top and were beaten by a very good side who will finish 2nd or 3rd. Disappointed but very proud of our team.


Spot on.

The only player who I thought wasnt excellent was Naismith. Tried hard but nothing came off for him.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Risky on December 30, 2012, 10:16:34 PM
dont you know that if you criticise a player on here it means you have an agenda against them and take joy in them failing.how dare you critisise a player

Wahwahwah.

When you start a post with "said it all along" it kind of suggests you are posting in support of an agenda you have does it not?  Regardless of whether that agenda is justified or not.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: TheRam on December 30, 2012, 10:22:31 PM
Wahwahwah.

When you start a post with "said it all along" it kind of suggests you are posting in support of an agenda you have does it not?  Regardless of whether that agenda is justified or not.

or maybe he just never rated him no agenda involved
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2012, 10:23:23 PM
There was also the Jelavic shot in the first half that was going in the bottom corner that Cech tipped wide for a corner.

Can't beleive people are slagging Jelavic after today.  He is going to get caught offside, as he is always playing off the shoulder of the last man.

Gotta agree with Alanvideo and Everton Mint, thought we were excellent today, Naismith aside who is just the epitome of mediocrity
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 30, 2012, 10:25:11 PM
really pleased with the effort put in, anichebe was fantastic today, distin was on another level which makes me hope lescot doesnt come in and replace him.

unlucky to not win, let alone lose the bloody game. dissapointed that jelevic didnt score at the end, surely that was to do with confidence, he would usually smash those type of chances.

need 3 points v newcastle.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Everton Mint on December 30, 2012, 10:25:44 PM
He's just a fatter Spanish waiter !  ;D

(http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Everton+v+Chelsea+Premier+League+0EdV7XcOi09l.jpg)
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: cantoffee on December 30, 2012, 10:27:20 PM
dont you know that if you criticise a player on here it means you have an agenda against them and take joy in them failing.how dare you critisise a player

It's amazing, anytime someone defends a player being criticised you jump all over the opportunity to say that you can't criticise players on here as some sort of bizarre argument that somehow makes you right without actually making a point.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Risky on December 30, 2012, 10:31:03 PM
or maybe he just never rated him no agenda involved

You seem to not understand what an agenda is.  To help you, it is when someone has a holds a certain view over time and posts about it.  As I'd already said it's nothing to do with whether that view is right or wrong, or whether you've always felt the same way or anything else.

Stop trying to bandwagon someone else's argument.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: TheRam on December 30, 2012, 10:32:08 PM
It's amazing, anytime someone defends a player being criticised you jump all over the opportunity to say that you can't criticise players on here as some sort of bizarre argument that somehow makes you right without actually making a point.

its amazing how making good points turns into having an agenda
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Silas on December 30, 2012, 10:33:47 PM
A really good team performance and we were unlucky not to get at least a draw, considering how many first choice players we had out, and the fact we had a right back as a centre back I think there is a lot to be positive about. 
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: pjk on December 30, 2012, 10:36:40 PM
A really good team performance and we were unlucky not to get at least a draw, considering how many first choice players we had out, and the fact we had a right back as a centre back I think there is a lot to be positive about. 



Have to agree with this. The biggest positive for me is how good Velios is looking.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: cantoffee on December 30, 2012, 10:37:20 PM
its amazing how making good points turns into having an agenda

I have said nothing of agenda's, but your posts about not being able to criticise players on here are counter to allowing for debate on a forum.

You are most definitely allowed to criticise our players, but it is also ok to counter that criticism and often times the criticism of a player is the same tired repeated platitudes by the same tired posters.

I don't MGP is one of them, however their are certainly people who have a belief regarding a player or two and refuse to recognise their accomplishments while magnifying their deficiencies.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on December 30, 2012, 10:37:38 PM
So because he's not looked at the goal before the header it's somehow not as good? Ok then.  As I saw it he made a good run, got on the end of a difficult cross, directed his header really well, and was unlucky that it came off the bar. Good strikers know where the goal is without looking, that's kind of basic stuff yet you're using the fact that he didn't look at the goal as something to downplay his effort with?  Bizarre again.


Good strikers also dont air shot decent chances from 6 yards out. They also know that if they're ahead of the last defender when the ball is played forward they're offside. That's kind of basic stuff. As basic as it gets.

He's been largely dreadful all season and if you cant see that then im not going to bother wasting my breath on you any longer.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on December 30, 2012, 10:40:26 PM
You seem to not understand what an agenda is.  To help you, it is when someone has a holds a certain view over time and posts about it.  As I'd already said it's nothing to do with whether that view is right or wrong, or whether you've always felt the same way or anything else.

Stop trying to bandwagon someone else's argument.

Are you on drugs you fool?

If a view is right how can it be classed as an agenda?

Talking to you is a total waste of time.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: pjk on December 30, 2012, 10:40:55 PM
Good strikers also dont air shot decent chances from 6 yards out. They also know that if they're ahead of the last defender when the ball is played forward they're offside. That's kind of basic stuff. As basic as it gets.

He's been largely dreadful all season and if you cant see that then im not going to bother wasting my breath on you any longer.




You just moved the goalposts there.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Ross on December 30, 2012, 10:43:23 PM
Good strikers also dont air shot decent chances from 6 yards out. They also know that if they're ahead of the last defender when the ball is played forward they're offside. That's kind of basic stuff. As basic as it gets.

He's been largely dreadful all season and if you cant see that then im not going to bother wasting my breath on you any longer.

I partly agree with your point about Jelavic, but you also post a lot claiming Defoe to be a fantastic striker and this is the sort of stuff he does a lot of the time.

So pointing it out about Jelavic while ignoring it in a player you clearly favour is actually making an agenda out of it.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Thornton_19 on December 30, 2012, 10:43:57 PM
Think its a bit grim on here. We played well and got beaten by a team of better players. We're not gonna smash teams every week.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Risky on December 30, 2012, 10:44:54 PM
Are you on drugs you fool?

If a view is right how can it be classed as an agenda?

Talking to you is a total waste of time.

Haha, one of the most moronic things I've ever read. Why does an agenda have to be wrong?  You're the insane one you helmet.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Ross on December 30, 2012, 10:46:57 PM
Think its a bit grim on here. We played well and got beaten by a team of better players. We're not gonna smash teams every week.

I agree, season of good will and all that seems to expired.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Risky on December 30, 2012, 10:48:41 PM
I agree, season of good will and all that seems to expired.

Fuck off.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on December 30, 2012, 10:49:06 PM
I partly agree with your point about Jelavic, but you also post a lot claiming Defoe to be a fantastic striker and this is the sort of stuff he does a lot of the time.

Difference being Defoe has smashed in, what is it now? 15 league goals this season.

Every striker in the world is going to miss some chances even the Messi's and Falcao's of the world but the reason i've always rated Defoe is to me he's always looked like he's going to score when given chances.

Despite the way he started out for us i've never had the same confidence in Jelavic and alls im saying is that l think it's time other people recognised that.

l dont have an agenda here at all, im just consistent with my views unlike 90% of others. Oh and the one or two fence sitters we have!
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Shogun on December 30, 2012, 10:49:12 PM
We've only lost three times this season so the doom and gloom mongers are just trying to reap everything out of this defeat.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Ross on December 30, 2012, 10:49:36 PM
Fuck off.

And a merry crappy Christmas to you
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: minty on December 30, 2012, 10:50:00 PM
You seem to not understand what an agenda is.  To help you, it is when someone has a holds a certain view over time and posts about it.  As I'd already said it's nothing to do with whether that view is right or wrong, or whether you've always felt the same way or anything else.

Stop trying to bandwagon someone else's argument.

An agenda = posting about a view you have.  :headbang:
What should people post about, views they don't have  :eh:
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Shogun on December 30, 2012, 10:50:53 PM
Difference being Defoe has smashed in, what is it now? 15 league goals this season.



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Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: minty on December 30, 2012, 10:53:02 PM
As i've said, i never saw the one which hit the post so cant possibly comment on that but his header which hit the bar, he never once had his eyes on goal so couldnt direct it anywhere purposefuly. He more stooped to get to a ball which was not at head height and tried to get some sort of glance on it to direct it towards goal. Not as if he's forced a keeper into a top class save or seen a goalbound shot deflected wide.

Agenda post? You mean im just repeating what i've said all along in that he's not as good as what people had hoped for. Is it an agenda or just cold hard facts?

The thing is with 0 creativity coming through midfield I don't think any strikers would be getting meaningful chances.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Risky on December 30, 2012, 10:53:41 PM
An agenda = posting about a view you have.  :headbang:
What should people post about, views they don't have  :eh:

Thanks for actually in a roundabout way making my point.  The only bit you've got wrong is where you're suggesting I've said that people shouldn't have agendas, or that agendas are bad. 
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: minty on December 30, 2012, 10:56:05 PM
Thanks for actually in a roundabout way making my point.  The only bit you've got wrong is where you're suggesting I've said that people shouldn't have agendas, or that agendas are bad. 

Agenda is just a stupid word which is generally used round here to dismiss anything people have to say. The less it's used the better.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Risky on December 30, 2012, 10:58:05 PM
Agenda is just a stupid word which is generally used round here to dismiss anything people have to say. The less it's used the better.

Any stats to back that up?
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: cantoffee on December 30, 2012, 10:59:45 PM
Any stats to back that up?

Well in.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: TheRam on December 30, 2012, 11:00:21 PM
I have said nothing of agenda's, but your posts about not being able to criticise players on here are counter to allowing for debate on a forum.

You are most definitely allowed to criticise our players, but it is also ok to counter that criticism and often times the criticism of a player is the same tired repeated platitudes by the same tired posters.

I don't MGP is one of them, however their are certainly people who have a belief regarding a player or two and refuse to recognise their accomplishments while magnifying their deficiencies.

It really is pathetic on here when someone dares to criticise anyone to do with the team. MGP is making reasonable points in regards to Jelavic, but gets accused of having an agenda. Cant he just not rate him as highly as other people do?

I've had many debates about players, and sooner or later someone will pipe in saying I have an agenda, and its the same people who use this tired saying when someone dares to criticise a player
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Ross on December 30, 2012, 11:02:27 PM
Difference being Defoe has smashed in, what is it now? 15 league goals this season.

Every striker in the world is going to miss some chances even the Messi's and Falcao's of the world but the reason i've always rated Defoe is to me he's always looked like he's going to score when given chances.

Despite the way he started out for us i've never had the same confidence in Jelavic and alls im saying is that l think it's time other people recognised that.

l dont have an agenda here at all, im just consistent with my views unlike 90% of others. Oh and the one or two fence sitters we have!

To be fair you are consistent with your opinions, and like I say I partly agree about the Jelavic thing. For me he's not going to be a consistent  20+ forward but for £5m you can't really expect that. He's come in done very well last season, and been average this year. But like I said Defoe has the same faults you are judging Jelavi by, so it doesn't equate really.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on December 30, 2012, 11:09:01 PM
Haha, one of the most moronic things I've ever read. Why does an agenda have to be wrong?  You're the insane one you helmet.

Right what the actual fuck are you on about now?

Cant you just accept that people have an opinion and not label everyone who does have one as having an agenda.

I dont think you actually have the balls to voice an opinion either way about anything as you dont want to be called up on it when you're undoubtebly made to look the clown that you are.

Your arse must look like a pin cushion with all the splinters in it from fence sitting.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Risky on December 30, 2012, 11:09:08 PM
It really is pathetic on here when someone dares to criticise anyone to do with the team. MGP is making reasonable points in regards to Jelavic, but gets accused of having an agenda. Cant he just not rate him as highly as other people do?

I've had many debates about players, and sooner or later someone will pipe in saying I have an agenda, and its the same people who use this tired saying when someone dares to criticise a player

Well firstly it was me that used the word agenda here, and I don't really recall having used it before and certainly not in your direction so this is a bit daft.

The only reason I used the word was because in my opinion it was part of the reason why MGP was claiming that Jelavic wasn't unlucky not to score today, despite the fact he hit the woodwork twice with good efforts.  No more, no less than that.  I've no idea why the word causes so much offence, other than the fact you and MGP both seem to think that having an agenda means you are wrong when that is just complete rubbish.

Maybe Si should put a filter on the word if it's such as sensitive issue.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Gash on December 30, 2012, 11:10:32 PM
This is all getting a bit silly now.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Shogun on December 30, 2012, 11:11:17 PM
This is all getting a bit silly now.
you and your fucking agendas.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Risky on December 30, 2012, 11:17:04 PM
Right what the actual fuck are you on about now?

Cant you just accept that people have an opinion and not label everyone who does have one as having an agenda.

I dont think you actually have the balls to voice an opinion either way about anything as you dont want to be called up on it when you're undoubtebly made to look the clown that you are.

Your arse must look like a pin cushion with all the splinters in it from fence sitting.

Fucking hell, one use of the word "agenda" and now I'm labelling everyone who has an opinion as having an agenda.  This is mental.

The rest of your post is standard MGP bullshit.  I tried debating with you, but as someone else pointed out you seemed to keep moving the goalposts so now I get one of your dull rants instead.  I can see why you got called a poor man's Staveros in the past though.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on December 30, 2012, 11:18:02 PM
To be fair you are consistent with your opinions, and like I say I partly agree about the Jelavic thing. For me he's not going to be a consistent  20+ forward but for £5m you can't really expect that. He's come in done very well last season, and been average this year. But like I said Defoe has the same faults you are judging Jelavi by, so it doesn't equate really.

Defoe is not anywhere near as wasteful as Jelavic though. The comparative goals they've both scored this season proves that. And as i've said on here for many a year now, on more than one occassion Defoe could have been obtained for about the same money as what we paid for Jelavic.

And whilst it may appear to be having an agenda, when you constantly get individuals telling you your opinions on certain players are wrong, when you're eventually proven to at least have a valid opinion or in the instance of Defoe to be proven correct, your damn fucking right im going to raise the point again to those individuals.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: minty on December 30, 2012, 11:18:32 PM
Any stats to back that up?

Let's use the dictionary

agenda - a temporally organized plan for matters to be attended to
schedule, docket
plan, program, programme - a series of steps to be carried out or goals to be accomplished; "they drew up a six-step plan"; "they discussed plans for a new bond issue"
fare, menu - an agenda of things to do; "they worked rapidly down the menu of reports"

Clearly in most cases someone is going to post to accomplish something (unless it's a meaningless post). I guess in these cases it's to convince people they are right and other are wrong. For this reason labelling something an "agenda" post must be seen as being an agenda post in itself. If it is obvious that all posts have an agenda then why single some out? It must be to make them look petty, less objective or whatever. If you read through your posts and others it is pretty clear that "agenda" has a negative connotation to it.

From my experience it is generally the people that always defend our players who write the more repetitive drivel and quickly resort to personal attacks at those who think differently. It's a sad example of internet bullying and group-think really. Perhaps some should have a look at other team's forums to see how sensible, thoughtful debate can be done.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: TheRam on December 30, 2012, 11:18:43 PM
Well firstly it was me that used the word agenda here, and I don't really recall having used it before and certainly not in your direction so this is a bit daft.

The only reason I used the word was because in my opinion it was part of the reason why MGP was claiming that Jelavic wasn't unlucky not to score today, despite the fact he hit the woodwork twice with good efforts.  No more, no less than that.  I've no idea why the word causes so much offence, other than the fact you and MGP both seem to think that having an agenda means you are wrong when that is just complete rubbish.

Maybe Si should put a filter on the word if it's such as sensitive issue.

But he made decent enough points to back up why he didnt think he was unlucky, its not as if he on here all the time saying Jelavic is shite is it?

You just cant bare anyone to criticise a player, and when you dont agree with it fucking kills you inside, so it must be some sort of agenda because surely no one can disagree with you can they? As MGP said when you sit on the fence as much as you and other people on here I can see why you all get so piss about an critisim that comes our players way.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on December 30, 2012, 11:21:23 PM
Fucking hell, one use of the word "agenda" and now I'm labelling everyone who has an opinion as having an agenda.  This is mental.

The rest of your post is standard MGP bullshit.  I tried debating with you, but as someone else pointed out you seemed to keep moving the goalposts so now I get one of your dull rants instead.  I can see why you got called a poor man's Staveros in the past though.

ONE use?

Christ man, you leap all over people with the use of the word with such regularity that people have started to notice it enough to bring it up so how the hell you can claim it's one use is beyond me.

Enough is enough now though so we'll leave it at that l think.

Toodles.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Risky on December 30, 2012, 11:22:29 PM
But he made decent enough points to back up why he didnt think he was unlucky, its not as if he on here all the time saying Jelavic is shite is it?

You just cant bare anyone to criticise a player, and when you dont agree with it fucking kills you inside, so it must be some sort of agenda because surely no one can disagree with you can they? As MGP said when you sit on the fence as much as you and other people on here I can see why you all get so piss about an critisim that comes our players way.

Yes he made his points and I made mine, what's your point?  Why are you so desperate to get involved and start accusing me of all sort of rubbish whilst you're at it?

What on earth makes you think that I can't take anyone criticising either?  It's almost like you're taking all of the nasty things that have upset you on here and pinning them on me now that you smell blood.  And there was me nominating you for most improved poster as well.

Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: minty on December 30, 2012, 11:23:49 PM
Defoe is not anywhere near as wasteful as Jelavic though. The comparative goals they've both scored this season proves that. And as i've said on here for many a year now, on more than one occassion Defoe could have been obtained for about the same money as what we paid for Jelavic.

And whilst it may appear to be having an agenda, when you constantly get individuals telling you your opinions on certain players are wrong, when you're eventually proven to at least have a valid opinion or in the instance of Defoe to be proven correct, your damn fucking right im going to raise the point again to those individuals.

Defoe did only score 4 in 22 in 2010/2011. Far worse than Jelavic's 6 in 19 this season.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Risky on December 30, 2012, 11:24:52 PM
ONE use?

Christ man, you leap all over people with the use of the word with such regularity that people have started to notice it enough to bring it up so how the hell you can claim it's one use is beyond me.

Enough is enough now though so we'll leave it at that l think.

Toodles.

Yep, always all over everyone with the agenda shouts me.  Pretty much every post like.


Anyway I'm out too, I don't want to ruin this thread any more with a daft argument.  Apologies for my part in it.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: TheRam on December 30, 2012, 11:28:00 PM
Yes he made his points and I made mine, what's your point?  Why are you so desperate to get involved and start accusing me of all sort of rubbish whilst you're at it?

What on earth makes you think that I can't take anyone criticising either?  It's almost like you're taking all of the nasty things that have upset you on here and pinning them on me now that you smell blood.  And there was me nominating you for most improved poster as well.



Because you just cant take anyone critizing a player, even tho its all part and parcel of being a fan, as proved with our agenda comment on MGP. Its not just you, its a lot of people on here, the same people it has to be said who cant fucking wait to bring up post from the past to prove someone wrong.

You only have to look at these threads to see the same people jumping on someone when they criticise a player or the manager.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 30, 2012, 11:46:41 PM
A really good team performance and we were unlucky not to get at least a draw, considering how many first choice players we had out, and the fact we had a right back as a centre back I think there is a lot to be positive about. 

Yep. First defeat (at GP) in what feels like an eternity. Can't fault them today for effort, it's just typical, we've played a lot lot worse yet come away with 3 points.

Ah well, on to the toon shite and that cunt Pardew.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Silas on December 30, 2012, 11:48:31 PM
Really missed Fellaini who would have done Luiz all day long. 
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Silas on December 30, 2012, 11:49:03 PM
Because you just cant take anyone critizing a player, even tho its all part and parcel of being a fan, as proved with our agenda comment on MGP. Its not just you, its a lot of people on here, the same people it has to be said who cant fucking wait to bring up post from the past to prove someone wrong.

You only have to look at these threads to see the same people jumping on someone when they criticise a player or the manager.

Swings and roundabouts and it works exactly the same the other way.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: minty on December 30, 2012, 11:49:52 PM
Yep, always all over everyone with the agenda shouts me.  Pretty much every post like.


Anyway I'm out too, I don't want to ruin this thread any more with a daft argument.  Apologies for my part in it.

Maybe not all the time but these examples show you have a history of using it before and always in a negative context. Glad you've realised to nip itin the bud this time.

 
Bloody hell, what the hell is going on here?

ILB, whilst he does go overboard and he does have his own slightly skewed agenda


Agenda poster of the year!
 

Agenda poster of the year's already been awarded mate.


Not surprising because you seem to manage to fit everything in to your own misguided agenda these days.

And to it won’t let me quote for some reason

1.You have to be pretty tied up in an agenda to not be able to credit Neville…
2.But I'd rather look at the bigger picture and judge each thing that happens on it's individual merits, rather than just posting my own agenda over and over and over and over like you do
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Risky on December 30, 2012, 11:55:16 PM
Fucking hell you sad bastard  lolol

Right so I've accused people of having agendas what's that 10ish times in 2 or 3 years the most recent of which appears to have been over a year ago?  Or 10 times out of 7000 odd posts - do me a % on that please stat boy?

I'm not as much of a pathetic bellend as to look those posts up myself, but I bet they'd stand up in the context of what they were about too.

Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: NomadskiEFC on December 31, 2012, 12:04:24 AM
On the subject of Jelavic, I reckon he was very unlucky. He meant his header that hit the bar, had a great shot which the keeper did well to tip round the post, fluffed a little with the 6 yarder, but I think he was unsighted.

Things just aren't going for him, but that will come back Im sure.

The ONE thing I will say about his performance today, with a negative slant, is that 2nd half shot (can't remember who fired it) which their keeper pushed back into the middle of the box on the ground would have been absolutely pounced on by Jelavic from Jan to May, but he was on his heels a bit and nowhere near it on this occasion.

I still have faith, when it comes it will be another flood.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Echoance on December 31, 2012, 12:05:24 AM
Can someone tell me where the match thread is, please?
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 31, 2012, 12:07:14 AM
Really missed Fellaini who would have done Luiz all day long. 

I thought Ossie gave Mata a fuckin' good game today, and ladyboy no change outta Distin.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: NomadskiEFC on December 31, 2012, 12:07:43 AM
Distin was immense.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: minty on December 31, 2012, 12:08:22 AM
Fucking hell you sad bastard  lolol

Right so I've accused people of having agendas what's that 10ish times in 2 or 3 years the most recent of which appears to have been over a year ago?  Or 10 times out of 7000 odd posts - do me a % on that please stat boy?

I'm not as much of a pathetic bellend as to look those posts up myself, but I bet they'd stand up in the context of what they were about too.



10 times is 10 times too many. It's a stupid comment to make about anyone which is as stupid as your pathetic insults re stats you're milking now.

You said you'd never said anyone had an agenda before today. Sorry calling you out as a liar is not up to your level of erm...standards of posting.

P.S your neville agenda comment was from the liverpool match thread 2 months ago.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Silas on December 31, 2012, 12:09:15 AM
Can someone tell me where the match thread is, please?

It's about 10 pages back mate
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Silas on December 31, 2012, 12:09:49 AM
I thought Ossie gave Mata a fuckin' good game today, and ladyboy no change outta Distin.

They did well but they didn't control possession as I am pretty sure Fellaini would have, it was left to Vic to play that role
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Shogun on December 31, 2012, 12:10:02 AM
May as well archive this now, nothing about the match anymore.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Silas on December 31, 2012, 12:13:19 AM
May as well archive this now, nothing about the match anymore.

Trying mate I really am!
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 31, 2012, 12:15:16 AM
They did well but they didn't control possession as I am pretty sure Fellaini would have, it was left to Vic to play that role

It just seemed frantic at times, got lucky with some of their counter attacks. They broke furiously at times which thankfully lead to nothing. 2soft goals for them.

Still happy with the lads.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Silas on December 31, 2012, 12:17:12 AM
It just seemed frantic at times, got lucky with some of their counter attacks. They broke furiously at times which thankfully lead to nothing. 2soft goals for them.

Still happy with the lads.

Yeah it's hard not to be when they put in a good performance pretty much to a man.  Important we get something out of Newcastle now.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 31, 2012, 12:20:50 AM
Yeah it's hard not to be when they put in a good performance pretty much to a man.  Important we get something out of Newcastle now.

I'm confident, especially after today, gotta build on that. They're a hit and miss side at the moment.
Title: Re: Everton v Chelsea
Post by: Gash on December 31, 2012, 12:22:51 AM
May as well archive this now, nothing about the match anymore.

I think that's a good idea.