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June 13, 2018, 05:39:25 AM
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Doesn't create much from open play.

That's an issue given who he'd be replacing.

Edit: Last season was his best season on record for open play chance creation but it still wasn't great.

Losing Baines and Rooney from the first 11 a huge worry for our passing, but youíd HOPE some of the CMís we buy are able to replace that?
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June 13, 2018, 06:41:27 AM
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Losing Baines and Rooney from the first 11 a huge worry for our passing, but youíd HOPE some of the CMís we buy are able to replace that?


If only we'd mastered phasing out/in, fucking years ago.  How hard can it be?  How hard can Everton make it seem?

June 13, 2018, 11:20:18 AM
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Losing Baines and Rooney from the first 11 a huge worry for our passing, but youíd HOPE some of the CMís we buy are able to replace that?


Rooney's passing was not particularly good this past season, so I don't really think he will be much of a loss on that front. Passing percentage below 80%; a lot of misplaced passes in dangerous positions; and only like 2 assists.


June 13, 2018, 01:14:52 PM
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Rooney's passing was not particularly good this past season, so I don't really think he will be much of a loss on that front. Passing percentage below 80%; a lot of misplaced passes in dangerous positions; and only like 2 assists.

Statistically yes.

But if we didnít buy any different midfielders, the ones we have donít show either ambition or aptitude to play more difficult passes.

June 13, 2018, 01:15:51 PM
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Don't know to much about this lad... but we need cover (new) left back.

June 13, 2018, 01:45:43 PM
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Rooney's passing was not particularly good this past season, so I don't really think he will be much of a loss on that front. Passing percentage below 80%; a lot of misplaced passes in dangerous positions; and only like 2 assists.

Oh he didnít do it great, but was willing.

More about people who want the ball.
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June 13, 2018, 02:22:03 PM
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Any costings? Seems like an intersting player


Somebody else - a Turkish reporter - said around £15m.
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June 13, 2018, 02:24:42 PM
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Doesn't create much from open play.

That's an issue given who he'd be replacing.

Edit: Last season was his best season on record for open play chance creation but it still wasn't great.

Didn't he have 7 assists last season?
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June 13, 2018, 02:25:06 PM
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Statistically yes.

But if we didnít buy any different midfielders, the ones we have donít show either ambition or aptitude to play more difficult passes.

Sigurdsson -- instead of being forced out wide to accommodate Rooney -- will be able to play through the middle, which would more than make up for the loss of Rooney. Still an argument to be made that we need a ball playing midfielder but I don't think that is the case because we are losing Rooney. In my view, we would have been better off last year without him.

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June 13, 2018, 02:26:15 PM
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June 13, 2018, 02:48:14 PM
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I think the passing should improve generally as well, if the manager actually encourages it and trains it.
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June 13, 2018, 03:10:22 PM
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Yup, and its not just passing ability that makes our passing better in general. Having a manager and coaching staff that can teach movement, and players making themselves available for an easy pass or running into space for a potentially killer pass, etc, is something that is been in short supply of late. Other teams, even the likes of Bournemouth, Watford, Swansea, etc, employ better tactics than us - with their players/formation/tactics being superior to Sam's, and to a lesser extent other previous setups. A new coaching staff and ethos with the "better", more suitable players (and hopefully some decent new players) will make a huge difference, and is something most of us have been crying out for, for literally decades. When Brands mentions "modern" football, we have some serious catching up to do - we have fallen about 30 years behind. Cant wait to see a proper game!

June 13, 2018, 03:46:11 PM
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Belters here

https://twitter.com/ToffeeTVEFC/status/1006630561253871616

Number 5 is very reminiscent of one of Bainsey's free kick at West Ham (Upton Park), the same game Rom scored with a header and got knocked out.

June 13, 2018, 03:46:16 PM
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Sigurdsson -- instead of being forced out wide to accommodate Rooney -- will be able to play through the middle, which would more than make up for the loss of Rooney. Still an argument to be made that we need a ball playing midfielder but I don't think that is the case because we are losing Rooney. In my view, we would have been better off last year without him.



Doesnít get on the ball enough.
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June 13, 2018, 04:00:19 PM
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Not seen enough of him to know, but maybe in a more attacking full back role, or possibly as more a Wing Back, with Coleman on the other side, would give him and us a lot more width than we saw under Sam, when neither full backs allowed to rampage forward much. Potentially getting a player like this, emphasises the need to get in a decent mobile, commanding centre back (or 2).

Adding another left footed free kick specialist, will make free kicks a bit more difficult for opponents to work out, with a fit, on form Sigurdsson lining up a right foot and Plannenhardt lining up a left hand shot. Very scary to defend against when you have two very potent possibilities to defend against.

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