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June 17, 2017, 10:45:06 AM
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It might be feasible to have around the same capacity as The Old Lady  around the track for the first season and then lower the pitch level introducing new seating afterwards.


June 17, 2017, 01:39:03 PM
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It might be feasible to have around the same capacity as The Old Lady  around the track for the first season and then lower the pitch level introducing new seating afterwards.


Not in one summer it wouldn't be.

June 17, 2017, 01:57:34 PM
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June 17, 2017, 01:58:41 PM
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Anyway, this all means that we must know what the ground will look like.

Hopefully get to see something soon.

June 17, 2017, 02:02:54 PM
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I don't get the love in with steep stands. Think of the away end at Newcastle, think of the Top Balcony. How is being miles too high from the pitch make it intimidating?

Think of the songs that fans bounce around to, can you imagine doing that when excessively steep? Imagine the mad Riley ons from the Lower Gwladys St after a goal when each row is two foot above the one before?

I know what you mean but Newcastle for example is only that big as the tall stands are only on two sides.

If those two tall stand profiles were replicated on the other sides the capacity would probably be 70,000.

You're always going to have a fair few fans miles away in those capacities.

Given that ours will be roughly 55k, with no discernible gaps (I.e in the corners, a church etc) you'd assume that most seats won't feel like they're miles away.

June 17, 2017, 02:09:34 PM
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Anyway, this all means that we must know what the ground will look like.

Hopefully get to see something soon.

Yes and the comment from Joe

“What we’re excited about is that the design of the stadium will mean that when we drop in the running track it will give a real atmosphere to the athletics events,”

would make it seem so. They're showing a high level of confidence, so I can't wait to see the designs which should be quite soon if they've already discussed the aspects of implementing the running track.


June 17, 2017, 02:12:56 PM
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http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/how-new-everton-stadium-transformed-13197790
................the article says it will cost £27m max. to 'drop in ' the running track and remove it later. If LCC are paying the bill ,won't that cancel out any profits / benefit made in staging the games ?
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June 17, 2017, 02:16:13 PM
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The Etihad isn't really a good example of what can be done, because the stands are too far away from the pitch. I think they have the pitch closer to the stands on one side, and then on the other side it is miles away.

June 17, 2017, 02:52:31 PM
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I know what you mean but Newcastle for example is only that big as the tall stands are only on two sides.

If those two tall stand profiles were replicated on the other sides the capacity would probably be 70,000.

You're always going to have a fair few fans miles away in those capacities.

Given that ours will be roughly 55k, with no discernible gaps (I.e in the corners, a church etc) you'd assume that most seats won't feel like they're miles away.

There will be a natural distance issue anyway with size, but do we want to be adding to it by requesting additional steepness?

Throw in the possibility of future expansion then our fans really will be miles away. There is also the matter of maximum gradient, and each tier has to be steeper than the tier beneath meaning you will hit maximum steepness too early ruling out expansion.

.I think steepness gives an illusion of intimidation but in reality it isn't the case.

June 17, 2017, 02:55:38 PM
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http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/how-new-everton-stadium-transformed-13197790

Not sure it's as straight forward as he's making out and can't wait for the initial draft (increasing the capacity to 65,000 to get it in) - we should get that kind of trade off...

June 17, 2017, 03:06:32 PM
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There will be a natural distance issue anyway with size, but do we want to be adding to it by requesting additional steepness?

Throw in the possibility of future expansion then our fans really will be miles away. There is also the matter of maximum gradient, and each tier has to be steeper than the tier beneath meaning you will hit maximum steepness too early ruling out expansion.

.I think steepness gives an illusion of intimidation but in reality it isn't the case.

From that perspective that's if people mean gradient rather than at Goodison where the tiers are on top of each other and therefore the upper tiers are closer to the pitch than in modern stadia.

Of course that has repercussions for the lower tiers that will probably be eradicated in the new stand, but this means that the upper tiers will be further away that they are now.

June 17, 2017, 03:19:06 PM
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If this fella Dan Meis gets his designs through and it all looks great, but we don't like the pies, he's fucked. :)
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June 17, 2017, 03:29:06 PM
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From that perspective that's if people mean gradient rather than at Goodison where the tiers are on top of each other and therefore the upper tiers are closer to the pitch than in modern stadia.

Of course that has repercussions for the lower tiers that will probably be eradicated in the new stand, but this means that the upper tiers will be further away that they are now.
Here's where people need to be careful on what they ask for. Steepness is the gradient.
If people are after stands on top of each other close to the pitch all overlapping each other then that's what they need to ask for, that will involve steep upper tiers, but in that scenario, yes those tiers on top of each other is something I do want to see in a couple of stands in the new stadium.

Our fans will end up asking for things they do not want!

June 17, 2017, 03:36:27 PM
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chang


................the article says it will cost £27m max. to 'drop in ' the running track and remove it later. If LCC are paying the bill ,won't that cancel out any profits / benefit made in staging the games ?

See Mayors letter on page 134.... :thumbsup:
« Last Edit: June 17, 2017, 03:38:44 PM by chang »

June 17, 2017, 04:08:13 PM
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Cozzie


Really disappointed with this.

Hope we dont get the games so its a none issue.