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Title: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 15, 2018, 01:25:19 AM
I'm not as good as some of the other guys with these matchday threads, but I'm already wishing the season away and just want to move on to the next game as quickly as possible.

Hard to judge this, but if we don't sign anyone new then I can see Allardyce putting out.


Pickford
Kenny   Holgate   Williams   Martina

          Schneiderlin  Gueye

Bolasie           Rooney        Sig
   
Tosun


The team I'd like to see is

Pickford

Kenny    Holgate    Williams    Martina

Gueye

Vlasic     Sig   Klaasen     Lookman

Tosun


I know Klaasen hasn't proved himself, but I'm not sure I can sit through another home game without a shot on target, and I feel he's the type of player who might actually try and get forward.

We've surely got to take Bolasie out of the team so he can recuperate properly and I'd like Vlasic to be given more of an opportunity.

Ideally we'd have a LB by next week, but it seems we're no closer to signing one judging by what some of the ITKs on here are saying.

I think (and hope) we should win this 2-0.
I don't really care what score we win by, I just want us to actually shoot at the opposition's goal a few times.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on January 15, 2018, 01:32:01 AM
I'll be surprised if we don't win as it's another Huddersfield/Swansea type of game at Goodison, even though Pardew has got West Brom playing pretty well.

If he's serious about what he said about Garbutt then he has to start here.

Pickford
Kenny Holgate Williams Garbutt
Gana Schneiderlin
Lookman Rooney Sigurdsson
Tosun
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 15, 2018, 01:34:07 AM
Completely forgot about the Garbutt situation. I would put Garbutt in ahead of Martina.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 15, 2018, 02:01:10 AM
Am going so expect a bleak nil nil or heaven forbid a one nil defeat and I'll meet you all in the Harlech at 430 for a guiness
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on January 15, 2018, 02:03:16 AM
Will twat these 1-0.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: velimski on January 15, 2018, 02:14:29 AM
0-0 with zero shots on target (by either side).

Should be a cracking game.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Heisenberg on January 15, 2018, 02:20:33 AM
Rooney needs fucking off for this. That west ham game has been his saving grace. Still slowing us down massively. Taking 2-3 to many touches every time. We need energy
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Brownie20 on January 15, 2018, 02:28:57 AM
Garbutt cant be registered until the end of January
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on January 15, 2018, 02:40:15 AM
Garbutt cant be registered until the end of January
total farce , should be able tp reg at the beginning of the window
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on January 15, 2018, 02:43:17 AM
Garbutt cant be registered until the end of January

How do january transfers work if you can't register a player until the end of the month?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Simon Paul on January 15, 2018, 02:46:14 AM
Win this 0-0 like against Chelsea
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on January 15, 2018, 02:47:26 AM
Re Garbutt I think SA only meant that he’s going to have to show in training that he’s worth consideration, not that he’s going to play him and see how he gets on.

He hasn’t been training with the first team I don’t think?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 15, 2018, 02:50:35 AM
Re Garbutt I think SA only meant that he's going to have to show in training that he's worth consideration, not that he's going to play him and see how he gets on.

He hasn't been training with the first team I don't think?
No he's been with the u23s
That's embarrassing all around
Garbutt on a 30k a week wage, happily training with lads he's too old to play with and still thinking this is sound
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Brownie20 on January 15, 2018, 03:03:08 AM
How do january transfers work if you can't register a player until the end of the month?

Don't know but I read it in the article the other day in the Echo about Garbutt
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheTone on January 15, 2018, 03:03:35 AM
Rondon hasn't scored in a while

You know the rest........
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: brap2 on January 15, 2018, 03:06:44 AM
Whoever we sign this week will play LB I hope.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Dr. Sponge on January 15, 2018, 03:07:23 AM
Pickford
Kenny Jags Holgate Dr.Sponge
Gueye Rooney
DCL Sig Lookman
Tosun

I think this is the best team to get us goals.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheTone on January 15, 2018, 03:12:25 AM
I'd like to see Vlasic for this, he's well capable of turning and beating these big West Brom plodders and laying it on a six pence for Cenk
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: brap2 on January 15, 2018, 03:22:36 AM
     Gueye     Rooney
         Sigurdsson
Bolasie Tosun Lookman
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on January 15, 2018, 03:26:53 AM
i'm all for playing 2 DM in away games , but at home a bit pointless against serial park the bus teams like WBA

            Pickford
Kenny Holgate Williams Martina( new signing)
        Gueye Rooney
Lennon   Sig  Lookman
           Tosun
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 15, 2018, 03:29:19 AM
Absolute borefest

0-0
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 15, 2018, 03:30:50 AM
I'm expecting
Pickford
Kenny Holgate Williams martina
Gueye schneiderlin McCarthy
Rooney sigurdsson
Tosun
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Dr. Sponge on January 15, 2018, 03:43:34 AM
I'm expecting
Pickford
Kenny Holgate Williams martina
Gueye schneiderlin McCarthy
Rooney sigurdsson
Tosun

If that's the team he picks then I'll be switching agendas.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ravardo on January 15, 2018, 03:46:43 AM
Does it matter who we have in the middle of the park as in the last game with them the ball went over their heads for the most part and the rest of the time it was mainly down cuco's side
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 15, 2018, 03:58:26 AM
Lineker has already tweeted that this game is last on Match of the Day.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Fynci on January 15, 2018, 04:04:26 AM
Scrappy win please!

Is anybody else starting to look over their shoulder yet? 9th is a very flattering position.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Silas on January 15, 2018, 04:25:53 AM
A dull as fuck win for us
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on January 15, 2018, 04:49:53 AM
Whoever we sign this week will play LB I hope.

Walcott would probably do better then than Coco.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on January 15, 2018, 05:10:22 AM
Can't wait for people like allardyce and pardew to finally fuck off out of the game forever.

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 15, 2018, 05:11:20 AM
If @Django (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4371) pops up on Friday and tells me we will be playing 2 DMs and have Bolasie RM and Sigurdsson LM then I might actually cry.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: School of Science on January 15, 2018, 05:11:50 AM
We played quite well against Liverpool with Bolasie and Lookman either side of Sigurdsson.
Tosun up front. CBA with the rest it picks itself.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: American Evertonian on January 15, 2018, 05:18:49 AM
We can't play Garbutt until we submit our roster at the end of Jan.

What I would like to see

                   Pickford
 Kenny   Holgate    Keane    Martina
            Gueye  Schneiderlin
Bolaise/Vlasic   Sigurdsson    Lookman
                      Tosun

Bench: Jags, Klassen, Robles, Lennon, Sandro, DCL, Rooney

Rooney is class but he has handicapped us by always putting him in the squad as he isn't a starter and doesn't offer enough off the bench as he should. At this rate I'd rather try Klassen and Sandro then some of our other players as subs as we know enough about Davies, Bolasie, etc. We aren't going to get relegated but based off our current strategy over the last 6 games it is clear we need a change
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on January 15, 2018, 05:26:47 AM
We can't play Garbutt until we submit our roster at the end of Jan.

What I would like to see

                   Pickford
 Kenny   Holgate    Keane    Martina
            Gueye  Schneiderlin
Bolaise/Vlasic   Sigurdsson    Lookman
                      Tosun

Bench: Jags, Klassen, Robles, Lennon, Sandro, DCL, Rooney

Rooney is class but he has handicapped us by always putting him in the squad as he isn't a starter and doesn't offer enough off the bench as he should. At this rate I'd rather try Klassen and Sandro then some of our other players as subs as we know enough about Davies, Bolasie, etc. We aren't going to get relegated but based off our current strategy over the last 6 games it is clear we need a change

I've already asked brownie but I'm struggling to see how Garbutt can't be registered to play but anyone transferred in, can?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on January 15, 2018, 05:28:19 AM
I don't think Martina has been that bad recently tbh.

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: bacon sarnie on January 15, 2018, 05:37:50 AM
Win 5-4. Allardyce chokes on his chewie. Pardew.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on January 15, 2018, 05:50:39 AM
I don't think Martina has been that bad recently tbh.

We've got almost zero attacking threat from our full backs with him and Kenny though which is why the idea of Garbutt is so great and lot of us are ignoring the fact it's very likely he's shite.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 15, 2018, 05:52:32 AM
We can't play Garbutt until we submit our roster at the end of Jan.

You do that on purpose now don't you.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: American Evertonian on January 15, 2018, 05:54:05 AM
I've already asked brownie but I'm struggling to see how Garbutt can't be registered to play but anyone transferred in, can?

I think when purchased they automatically added to the squad and can't be omitted from our 25.

However when we promote from within they have to be a part of the final submission.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 15, 2018, 05:58:16 AM
I think when purchased they automatically added to the squad and can't be omitted from our 25.

However when we promote from within they have to be a part of the final submission.

Any player in January can be registered at any time, providing they are registered by 12pm the day before the first match you wish to play them in.

Same rule for promotions from within or new signings.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jamokachi on January 15, 2018, 10:49:02 AM
Need a statement of intent here. Locals will be restless.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ramjam on January 15, 2018, 11:31:01 AM
Need a statement of intent here. Locals will be restless.

Need 3 points regardless of how we get them, thatíd do me for starters
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Confucius on January 15, 2018, 11:31:37 AM
I am hoping for  a 2-1 win. By that I mean the shots on target score. No way this is ending up as anything other that a 0-0. Please can the season end now.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jamokachi on January 15, 2018, 11:32:30 AM
Need 3 points regardless of how we get them, thatíd do me for starters

By "statement of intent", I mean a shot on target, or two.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ramjam on January 15, 2018, 11:33:16 AM
Not until we get 40 points, we might have to play until September
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Fynci on January 15, 2018, 12:32:14 PM
Win 5-4. Allardyce chokes on his chewie. Pardew.

We are 0-4 down at half-time. Pardew does a victory dad dance on the halfway line.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on January 15, 2018, 01:48:30 PM
Scrappy win please!

Is anybody else starting to look over their shoulder yet? 9th is a very flattering position.

Thatís what happens when you get 2 points from 5 games!

Although, again it shows just how bad everyone else is that we are still 9th and reasonable form from here on in *should* see us bumble slowly away.

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Juanito on January 15, 2018, 02:46:48 PM
              Pickford
Holgate  Holgate Jags  new LB
            Gana  Davies
Vlasic      Sigurdsson  Lookman
               Tosun
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cereal Killer on January 15, 2018, 03:22:29 PM
              Pickford
Holgate  Holgate Jags  new LB
            Gana  Davies
Vlasic      Sigurdsson  Lookman
               Tosun

Ahhhh Moshiri's investment in cloning technology has finally paid off! Two Holgates! Next up two, ermmm, well maybe we don't want two of anyone else....
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 15, 2018, 03:41:06 PM
He's going to go defensive again isn't he and then bring on some attacking players after 60 minutes.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cuttyblue on January 15, 2018, 04:56:02 PM
The spine of the midfield/front needs to be Tosun, Sig in behind and Rooney center circle.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: gizzblue on January 15, 2018, 05:14:12 PM
Id like to see us in their half the pitch a few times please...that would be better than the spurs game.
But I forsee three DM's no attacking threat as Rooney gets in Sigs way again .
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 15, 2018, 05:26:55 PM
Really looking forward to this one ........................
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cereal Killer on January 15, 2018, 05:37:47 PM
"We've just been tonked so we better shore up"

             Pickford
Holgate Jags Keane Martina
    Gueye McCarthy Schneids
Lennon                 Siggy
               Tosun
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 15, 2018, 05:47:48 PM
Imagine us starting with 3 defensive midfielders at home V West Brom

:(
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 15, 2018, 05:48:50 PM
Imagine us starting with 3 defensive midfielders at home V West Brom

:(
Wont need to imagine come Saturday pal
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ramjam on January 15, 2018, 05:55:07 PM
                 Pickford

Holgate.      Jags.     Keane

                   Gueye

Vlasic. Rooney.Davies lookie

                    Siggy
   
                    Touson
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: dax78 on January 15, 2018, 06:21:36 PM
Going to go on a 7 game unbeaten run, while winning 4/5 of these games.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 15, 2018, 06:29:07 PM
I'd like to see us go back to the Williams/Holgate partnership which started out decent in his first few games. Not sure why we've abandoned that, they seemed to work well together.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: brap2 on January 15, 2018, 06:35:53 PM
He's going to go defensive again isn't he and then bring on some attacking players after 60 minutes.

Put your life savings on it
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 15, 2018, 06:41:42 PM
"We've just been tonked so we better shore up"

             Pickford
Holgate Jags Keane Martina
    Gueye McCarthy Schneids
Lennon                 Siggy
               Tosun

I'd just walk out, seriously.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on January 15, 2018, 06:51:32 PM
Shoring up is more likely to be telling the midfield not to move from in front of the back 4.

Could see Lennon in for Bolasie but still expect only 2 DMs.

Part of the reason Holgate / Williams looked better was because they had 5 players right in front of them.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 15, 2018, 06:56:49 PM
It's astonishing what an attacking full back could actually add to our game.

Just look at Aurier the other day, the Spurs fans hadn't really taken to him this season, he had been second choice to Trippier, and he's not world class, but he absolutely battered us.

Hasn't Baines had more assists than any other defender in PL history?
We've been so used to that style for so many years that we're an absolute mess when we can't utilise it.

If we don't try Garbutt there on the weekend then we need to be signing a LB ASAP.

Kenny isn't playing badly on the right, but he's offering very little going forward and isn't quite good enough to take on players like Coleman was (granted he's no way near as shambolic as Martina on the left).
Maybe Martina would provide more of an attacking threat than JJK  if he was played in his natural position?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: kramer0 on January 15, 2018, 07:26:54 PM
Until we find something else that works, it has to be Gana-Davies-Rooney in midfield.

Any time we've played anything resembling football this season, we've had those three on the pitch.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Dr. Sponge on January 15, 2018, 07:28:55 PM
Think we can forget about Garbutt, he'd have already been training with the first team and in the squad for the last two games. It's halfway through January.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 15, 2018, 07:49:42 PM
Until we find something else that works, it has to be Gana-Davies-Rooney in midfield.

Any time we've played anything resembling football this season, we've had those three on the pitch.

True. While Davies' form hasn't ben great this season whenever he's played with Rooney he's had the intelligence to move forwards whenever Rooney has dropped deep, giving us more options ahead of the ball. As opposed to Schneiderlin/McCarthy who just look away from Rooney in the hope the ball doesn't go to them.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: themilkycoffees on January 15, 2018, 08:09:34 PM
Would be nice to see Sigurdsson play centrally, instead of being wasted on the left. Spurs did this with him and he looked lost, exactly the same as we're doing now. Play him in CAM and he's good, play him elsewhere and it's a waste.

Also, at least one of Lookman or Vlasic needs to play v West Brom. We look absolutely devoid of ideas going forward.

I'd go with

Pickford

Kenny
Holgate
Williams
Martina

Gueye
Rooney
Sigurdsson
Lookman
Vlasic

Tosun

Won't happen, but I can dream.

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: brap2 on January 15, 2018, 09:04:11 PM
I’ve said this before but id even play

Sig Gana Rooney

Sig has work rate and intelligence and has played in CM for Iceland.

Then put

Lennon Tosun Bolassie

Ahead of them

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: D15TIN on January 15, 2018, 09:41:31 PM
------------Pickford

Kenny Holgate Williams Garbutt

----------Rooney Gana

Lennon---Sigurdsson---Lookman

-------------Tosun

Play Rooney deeper against the shit teams at home, hes best performance this season came from that role

- Play Williams & Holgate - the only 2 whove looked a decent partnership this season

- Lennon & Kenny - again look to have a good understanding, play them together

- Drop bolasie for lookman IMO
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 15, 2018, 10:33:21 PM
Iíve said this before but id even play

Sig Gana Rooney

Sig has work rate and intelligence and has played in CM for Iceland.

Then put

Lennon Tosun Bolassie

Ahead of them



I reckon Sig could prolong his career, and enable us to get more value for money out of him over his contract, if he dropped deeper and played centrally. He works his socks off, he's got an eye for a goal and he's quite a tall unit. He also doesn't look lost when the ball is at his feet.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: brap2 on January 15, 2018, 11:00:03 PM
I reckon Sig could prolong his career, and enable us to get more value for money out of him over his contract, if he dropped deeper and played centrally. He works his socks off, he's got an eye for a goal and he's quite a tall unit. He also doesn't look lost when the ball is at his feet.

For a talented player gets nowhere near the touches on the ball for a cm or 10

Hoping thatís cause weíve got him shunted out left (need to fuck this off ASAP) but if he comes in centrally he needs to get on he ball as much as possible. Demand the touches usually taken up by Gueye / Holgate / Kenny / Martina
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: SANA_DR0 on January 15, 2018, 11:20:47 PM
what id like


                      Pickford
Kenny     Holgate    Williams   Garbutt

                      Gueye
        Vlasic                   Rooney
                  Siggurdsson
                  Tosun     DCL


the team that Sam will play cos he wants to be even more boring


                         Pickford

Kenny  Holgate Jags Williams Keane
      Gueye  McCarthy Schneiderlin
                      Bolassie
                        Lennon


                                         
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: gizzblue on January 15, 2018, 11:47:41 PM
what id like


                      Pickford
Kenny     Holgate    Williams   Garbutt

                      Gueye
        Vlasic                   Rooney
                  Siggurdsson
                  Tosun     DCL


the team that Sam will play cos he wants to be even more boring


                         Pickford

Kenny  Holgate Jags Williams Keane
      Gueye  McCarthy Schneiderlin
                      Bolassie
                        Lennon


                                         
If we actually started with your first 11 ..I would shit my kecks for fun.

I would love to see Broto-Sam-us the footy grim reaper even attempt to play that attacking .

We're losing every game anyway ...go fucking attack see what happens at this point there is fuck all to lose ....aside more supporters getting on the anti football agenda bus .
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on January 16, 2018, 12:22:18 AM


We're losing every game anyway ...go fucking attack see what happens at this point there is fuck all to lose ....aside more supporters getting on the anti football appropriate lack of respect  bus .


Of course SA would point out that we werenít losing every game when we really wanted to defend first and foremost ;)
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 16, 2018, 03:16:18 AM
If we're actually successful in signing Walcott, you'd have to imagine that would be the end of shunting Sigurdsson out wide.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: brap2 on January 16, 2018, 03:23:00 AM
If we're actually successful in signing Walcott, you'd have to imagine that would be the end of shunting Sigurdsson out wide.

Dunno you know!

Where does he play? Only possible position is drop rooney but I donít see that happening!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 16, 2018, 03:31:52 AM
Hasn't Walcott mostly played on the right though?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on January 16, 2018, 03:36:45 AM
If we're actually successful in signing Walcott, you'd have to imagine that would be the end of shunting Sigurdsson out wide.

More likely to drop Bolasie.

I donít think itís necessary to have two wide, wide players either as long as the one who is the wide player stretches the other team over to that side.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 16, 2018, 03:53:15 AM
Dunno you know!

Where does he play? Only possible position is drop rooney but I donít see that happening!

Well that's the question, someone is getting dropped though. I'd imagine he'd be in the side straight away. Maybe Bolasie gets brought in more slowly perhaps. I was imagining we'd actually be playing with Bolasie and Walcott though...you'd imagine longer term that'd be the plan at least.

I think some of best games have been with Rooney in the team, yet I still remain unconvinced that he's the solution that we need in that area.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: SANA_DR0 on January 16, 2018, 04:04:57 AM
Vlasic has shown more for us than Bolassie has since he has been in here..

he offers no cover for the full backs, and when he gets the ball instead of using his pace to go past people, he does tricks and fucks up(cos tricks work when your match sharp)

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 16, 2018, 04:08:44 AM
Id play Vlasic.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 16, 2018, 04:21:05 AM
I'm not a big fan of Bolasie, I do think Walcott would easily be the most PL ready winger we have if he came in though so he'd be starting. Vlasic and Lookman have been promising in moments.

I think we need a better solution that Sigurdsson pushed wide though.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on January 16, 2018, 04:24:50 AM
I'm not a big fan of Bolasie, I do think Walcott would easily be the most PL ready winger we have if he came in though so he'd be starting. Vlasic and Lookman have been promising in moments.

I think we need a better solution that Sigurdsson pushed wide though.

As said I donít mind Sigurdsson our there but it really should only be with a left footed LB.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 16, 2018, 04:30:48 AM
As said I donít mind Sigurdsson our there but it really should only be with a left footed LB.

Well certainly yes, that'd make a difference...depending on the LB we (maybe) get in I suppose.

I still think Sigurdsson is better played centrally though coming into the box.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on January 16, 2018, 04:34:40 AM
Dunno you know!

Where does he play? Only possible position is drop rooney but I donít see that happening!

Walcott, Rooney, sigurdson.

Goals galore in that for an attacking three.

Shame walcotts hamstring will go asap, Rooney will hit the bottle and Sigurdsson will do his knee.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: brap2 on January 16, 2018, 05:02:02 AM
Walcott, Rooney, sigurdson.

Goals galore in that for an attacking three.

Shame walcotts hamstring will go asap, Rooney will hit the bottle and Sigurdsson will do his knee.

Don’t like the Sigurdsson our left thing. Watching mata do it for United makes me more comfortable I just think we’re missing out on Sigurdsson by not just forcing him to be on the ball constantly on the edge of the box as much as possible. Will force him into shooting more and trying more.

I’d prefer what most other top Prem sides have which is insane pace and a goal threat. Mane, Sterling, Sanchez, Sane, Rashford, Martial, Salah - someone of that ilk is our next buy after LB and passing CM I hope. Superstar attacker who bring Goals, threat, pace, assists, shots outside the box and poaching runs at the back post inside it at decent age.

Those are the players this era is defined by IMO, ever since Ronaldo and we’ve not had one since Kanchelskis which is unreal.

Should have been in/should be in for Redmond (and tried to coach him to do sterling style runs into the box.), Zaha, Rashford loan if United buy 2x attackers, Mikhtarian loan, Mahrez, Lanzini, Arnautovic...even whisper it Antonio isn’t a terrible idea tbh...

Potential in Lookman and if Bolasie can have an eliphany but most of those lads above get 8,9,10+ non pen Goals in the prem a year, Bolassie has 10 in his career.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 16, 2018, 05:16:53 PM
Dunno you know!

Where does he play? Only possible position is drop rooney but I donít see that happening!

Sigg at 10 and Rooney alongside Gueye... could work against shittier teams
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ross on January 16, 2018, 05:22:10 PM
Sigg at 10 and Rooney alongside Gueye... could work against shittier teams

Further back Rooney plays the more potential exposure youíre placing on a defence even against the lesser teams.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 16, 2018, 05:23:00 PM
Gueye Rooney
Sigurdsson
Walcott Tosun Bolasie

Never happen in a month of sundays like but on paper it looks decent

Rooney interchangeable with Davies, DCL can cover any of the front 3
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 16, 2018, 05:37:45 PM
Further back Rooney plays the more potential exposure you’re placing on a defence even against the lesser teams.

I'm not sure there is a place needed to be found for Rooney anymore. I get the impression he inhibits players like Sig by just being on the pitch, not just because he's stood on his toes all game but his presence as well. I don't deny he's had a decent first half of the season but we as a team haven't and that's the main objective. We paid £45m for a player who plays in his position, time to see what he can do behind a proper striker and wide players with an attacking threat.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ross on January 16, 2018, 05:58:51 PM
I'm not sure there is a place needed to be found for Rooney anymore. I get the impression he inhibits players like Sig by just being on the pitch, not just because he's stood on his toes all game but his presence as well. I don't deny he's had a decent first half of the season but we as a team haven't and that's the main objective. We paid £45m for a player who plays in his position, time to see what he can do behind a proper striker and wide players with an attacking threat.

Yeah one or the other behind the main striker. Sigurdsson out wide is waste of a shirt and Rooney deep is a liability with his sloppy passing in front of an already over exposed defence.

Problem is Sigurdsson has got to start because heís our £45m trophy buy and Rooneyís our vanity project and highest earner who every manager kowtows to.

The most frustrating part is it was obvious in the summer that thereíd be this problem yet Koeman pushed for both players while more urgent areas of the squad were left to decline.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on January 16, 2018, 05:59:13 PM
Rooney hasnt got the legs to play further back centrally, he has been a liability there - he needs to be right bang in the middle behind a good (or two) strikers, unfortunately Sigurdsson will have to play there if we want to have width and a stable defence. Imo, its Rooney or Sig, not both for the tougher games - and I would have to go Sig, as he can track back a lot more.

Teams can have a free reign with Everton at the moment, they can push us back and put us under pressure (as we have no pacey outlet to punish them). They can sit back and hit us on the break, as all our centre backs, even Keane are slow, as wel as Schneiderlin and Davies being slow, and Sig and Rooney not the quickest. It doesnt help when most of our team cant pass, or play long balls up to their defenders. We need balls played into space for wingers to run onto and pull defences apart, we need support when Tosun wins the knock downs, or turns and looks for... nobody. We need to stop getting 2/3rds up the pitch, then passing back to mid, then to the keeper, then lumping it. Our coaching is shoite, actual tactics are shoite, and half of our players are actually shoite.

Adding Walcott is a small improvement, but an improvement nonetheless. Tosun looks already like he is going to be a hardworking handful, that we know can score. Lookman and Vlasic need to get a chance imo, and for them to do that, we need a proper central mid who does not give the ball away every 5 minutes - I would put n'Zonzi right at the top of the list once we have a proven left back.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 16, 2018, 06:07:20 PM
Has to try Garbutt left back for me. We're at home, West Brom will be set up for us to break them down and everything we do comes down the right. This'll be the easiest coaching preparation Pardew will ever be likely to do unless we at least attempt to operate with two sides of the pitch.

We all know the lad isn't great but he has a left foot, can get down the byeline and he'll offer width on the overlap. If you're going to blood a lad then at home to West Brom would be up there for as good a game as any. But he won't. It'll be Cuco, two defensive midfielders and I've just wasted 30 seconds of my life writing that.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: dunkster on January 16, 2018, 06:12:09 PM
What's oviedo up to nowadays?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cereal Killer on January 16, 2018, 06:23:52 PM
What's oviedo up to nowadays?

Helping guide Sunderland to League One
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: brap2 on January 16, 2018, 07:53:09 PM
Apparently Rooneys passing stats have been good for difficult passes and shite for easy ones. Makes sense when watching him, can still spread a ball beautifully but so often just boots it directly to an opposing midfielder.

Heís probably just not a midfielder really, which says volumes about us because heís our best CM on the ball.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on January 16, 2018, 08:18:54 PM
Hoping for this team

-------------Pickford-------------

Kenny-Holgate-Williams-Martina

--------Gueye---Rooney---------

Walcott---Siggurdson---Bolasie

-------------Tosun----------------

Wont be like, will be Rooney in the middle for Bolasie and Sig on the left annoyingly.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: therealdunc on January 16, 2018, 08:22:24 PM
Rooney and Bolasie need dropping for their complete inability to pass the ball on Saturday.

Their offensive (inside opponents half) passing stats were shocking.


Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 16, 2018, 08:31:21 PM
Bolasie should not be playing, never mind on the left.

Not because he's a bad player, he just isn't fully fit, would rather see Vlasic or Lookman on the left.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 16, 2018, 09:18:53 PM
Bolasie needs to be a sub for the foreseeable. His lack of fitness means he'll have a much better chance of delivering something of note against tired defenders in the last 20 minutes than fresh defenders from the off.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: D15TIN on January 16, 2018, 10:11:17 PM
Rooney can play deep, his best performance came there against west ham - I just wouldn't play him there against the top sides. Sigurdsson should be given a run as the number 10 now.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: School of Science on January 17, 2018, 02:15:22 AM
Bolasie should not be playing, never mind on the left.

Not because he's a bad player, he just isn't fully fit, would rather see Vlasic or Lookman on the left.

Catch22 though in it, has to play to get match fitness, if he starts he still shouldn't be finishing games just yet, that's where Lookman and Vlasic should come in.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 17, 2018, 02:23:59 AM
Bolasie should not be playing, never mind on the left.

Not because he's a bad player, he just isn't fully fit, would rather see Vlasic or Lookman on the left.
I'd rather he start, give a good hour then be took off
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sam of the south on January 17, 2018, 02:36:36 AM
Vlasic was rarely making the bench before Walcott arrived, now he will find it even more difficult.



Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: brap2 on January 17, 2018, 05:30:50 AM
Apparently Rooneys passing stats have been good for difficult passes and shite for easy ones. Makes sense when watching him, can still spread a ball beautifully but so often just boots it directly to an opposing midfielder.

Heís probably just not a midfielder really, which says volumes about us because heís our best CM on the ball.

Welp.

https://twitter.com/mixedknuts/status/953306780867670016
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sam of the south on January 17, 2018, 05:33:44 AM
Welp.

https://twitter.com/mixedknuts/status/953306780867670016

Ah
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sam of the south on January 17, 2018, 05:43:12 AM
                          Pickford
          Kenny Holgate Jagielka Garbutt
                   Schneiderlin Gana
                         Sigurdsson
                 Walcott Tosun Vlasic


SUBS: Robles, Williams, Davies, Rooney, Bolasie, Lookman, DCL

Pick this side and we win 9-0.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: bacon sarnie on January 17, 2018, 07:07:13 AM
Draw
1-1
Rondon

.......oh aye, we don't play that game anymore do we like.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 17, 2018, 05:09:22 PM
0-0 written all over it . I do think we will beat Brighton on the 10th March though .
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Escla on January 17, 2018, 05:51:49 PM
0-0 written all over it . I do think we will beat Brighton on the 10th March though .
Bet you a virtual tenner we win 2-0 !
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on January 17, 2018, 05:59:10 PM
                 Pickford

Kenny Holgate Williams A Twix bar

            Gana  Rooney

Walcott    Sigurdsson    Vlasic

            Tucson
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 17, 2018, 06:32:38 PM
Really don't understand the hype over Vlasic
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on January 17, 2018, 06:39:54 PM
Really don't understand the hype over Vlasic

Think he's done more than Bolasie to warrant a start. Nice direct player. Not been that impressed with Lookman. And there's nobody else.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 17, 2018, 06:42:07 PM
Bet you a virtual tenner we win 2-0 !

Virtually your on . I will be watching Eastleigh v Hartlepool but lets hope ( since it will cost me fuck all ) I am wrong . Monkeyhangers could be going bust so lending support to a great bunch of supporters in The SE Poolies .
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 17, 2018, 06:43:38 PM
Really don't understand the hype over Vlasic

Really never understood the hype over Bolasie either . At least Vlasic hasn't disappointed nearly every time he has played .
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on January 17, 2018, 06:45:38 PM
                          Pickford
          Kenny Holgate Jagielka Garbutt
                   Schneiderlin Gana
                         Sigurdsson
                 Walcott Tosun Vlasic
Robles, Williams, Davies, Rooney, Bolasie, Lookman, DCL

Pick this side and we win 9-0.

Who would you have on the bench?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 17, 2018, 07:19:38 PM
Really never understood the hype over Bolasie either . At least Vlasic hasn't disappointed nearly every time he has played .

Hasn't done anything when he has played, not saying he isn't a good player, but a lot on here seem to think he's amazing.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on January 17, 2018, 07:31:30 PM
Hasn't done anything when he has played, not saying he isn't a good player, but a lot on here seem to think he's amazing.

Think itís the type of player he is.

Someone that holds the ball well in tight spots and is willing to use team mates more naturally than others.

But issue with both him and Lookman is that people are basing selections on what they hope they might do rather than a raft of evidence.

No issue with either being given a go but also itís not baffling if managers donít pick them.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sam of the south on January 17, 2018, 08:56:12 PM
                          Pickford
          Kenny Holgate Jagielka Garbutt
                   Schneiderlin Gana
                         Sigurdsson
                 Walcott Tosun Vlasic


SUBS: Robles, Williams, Davies, Rooney, Bolasie, Lookman, DCL

Pick this side and we win 9-0.

I don't know what you were talking about, @blargins (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=54), the subs are clearly listed ;)
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Escla on January 17, 2018, 09:15:03 PM
I don't know what you were talking about, @blargins (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=54), the subs are clearly listed ;)

As Blargs is quite fond of responding on my behalf, let me respond to his, my guess is that he means we would win 9-0 if we put all 18 in the side, so who would you have on the bench 😀
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on January 17, 2018, 09:19:13 PM
I don't know what you were talking about, @blargins (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=54), the subs are clearly listed ;)

It's a shame you an't edit my post though :)

Even if we put that entire team out, we'd still probably struggle to score lol
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sam of the south on January 17, 2018, 09:25:14 PM
As Blargs is quite fond of responding on my behalf, let me respond to his, my guess is that he means we would win 9-0 if we put all 18 in the side, so who would you have on the bench 😀

Oh yes, I realised, @Escla (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=5210), thank you, though ;)
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on January 18, 2018, 12:09:32 AM
Really don't understand the hype over Vlasic

Heís done well enough when heís played to deserve a run in the side. I think youíd see him turn into a real asset if played consistently but being in and out of the side does him no favours.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: BlueForYou on January 18, 2018, 12:55:03 AM
No hype - gifted footballer

Walcott had hype - with no gift
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Heisenberg on January 18, 2018, 03:25:32 AM
Heís done well enough when heís played to deserve a run in the side. I think youíd see him turn into a real asset if played consistently but being in and out of the side does him no favours.

Definitely. Id loan him to a decent european league untill we get a competent manager 
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: kramer0 on January 18, 2018, 03:54:16 AM
I don't know if Vlasic is actually "good" but he's one of the few players we have who brings me any joy to watch.

His strength, balance, control in tight areas, and awareness of his teammates are generally impressive.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 18, 2018, 04:14:28 AM
I don't know if Vlasic is actually "good" but he's one of the few players we have who brings me any joy to watch.

Agree with that. Similar to how I felt about Klaassen when he played and why Iím a bit gutted itís not worked out. No idea if heís any good either but when he got on the ball I always enjoyed it.

Canít really think of anyone else Iíd say the same about. Maybe Davies though this season thatís more in hope than expectation.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: brap2 on January 18, 2018, 04:38:00 AM
I don't know if Vlasic is actually "good" but he's one of the few players we have who brings me any joy to watch.

His strength, balance, control in tight areas, and awareness of his teammates are generally impressive.

Iíve got a feeling that he might actually be very good, would love to see him play more, shame we didnít get a bigger cup run.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 18, 2018, 03:46:53 PM
I’ve got a feeling that he might actually be very good, would love to see him play more, shame we didn’t get a bigger cup run.

He had a touch of Eden Hazard about him I thought. Needs confidence and a run of games. He showed for his last club he likes to take players on and commit defenders, you'd think that's what we need, unless he has an attitude problem.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on January 18, 2018, 03:58:29 PM
He had a touch of Eden Hazard about him I thought. Needs confidence and a run of games. He showed for his last club he likes to take players on and commit defenders, you'd think that's what we need, unless he has an attitude problem.

Not sure heís as fast as some people think therefore itís tough to take people on out wide, certainly in a faster league.

Think is shifts of his body weight need to be around the box where half a yard makes a massive difference.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: therealdunc on January 18, 2018, 04:22:08 PM
Definitely. Id loan him to a decent european league untill we get a competent manager

Yeah cause Koeman and Unsworth played him every game  lolol

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: mikey_blue on January 18, 2018, 04:26:47 PM
I think Sam would be mad to go for a defensive approach to this game. 2 new attacking signings should have the crowd on side. Get stuck in early and assert some dominance and I think we could be all over these.

                Pickford
Kenny Holgate Jags  Martina
             Gana  Rooney
                    Sig
     Wallcott          Bolasie
                  Tosun

Sig pinging it to Walcott, he cruises down the wing, skipping passed a challenge and launching a cultured right foot cross into the box, clearing the first man and dipping into the penalty area. Tosun glides majestically through the air like a salmon to meet the ball with his head. Stunning Bullet header. The crowd goes wild. Fin.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 18, 2018, 04:27:36 PM
Not sure heís as fast as some people think therefore itís tough to take people on out wide, certainly in a faster league.

Think is shifts of his body weight need to be around the box where half a yard makes a massive difference.

Yeh I don't think anyone really thinks he's fast as such, but he looks to be able to do what Pienaar used do and manoeuvre himself around defenders in tight spots, with the added benefit of being a lot more stocky to hold them off. Point being he looked as if he wanted to do that, whereas a lot of our players don't want to take that responsibility and pass it on to someone else.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: therealdunc on January 18, 2018, 04:29:02 PM
I think Sam would be mad to go for a defensive approach to this game. 2 new attacking signings should have the crowd on side. Get stuck in early and assert some dominance and I think we could be all over these.

                Pickford
Kenny Holgate Jags  Martina
             Gana  Rooney
                    Sig
     Wallcott          Bolasie
                  Tosun

Sig pinging it to the Walcott cruises down the wing, skipping passed a challenge and launching a cultured right foot cross into the box, clearing the first man and dipping into the penalty area. Tosun glides majestically through the air like a salmon to meet the ball with his head. Stunning Bullet header. The crowd goes wild. Fin.

My only issue with that team is Rooney and Bolasie.

If they both play as bad as they did on Saturday with their shocking passing and ball retention, then it will be a long day.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: mikey_blue on January 18, 2018, 04:41:36 PM
My only issue with that team is Rooney and Bolasie.

If they both play as bad as they did on Saturday with their shocking passing and ball retention, then it will be a long day.

True of Rooney. His form has hit a bit of a wall as of recent. I think he should be playing the 8 as opposed to the 10. Moving Sig into the middle will give him an option to pass the ball forward to, and an option either side with Walcott/ Bolasie/ whoever.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Alanvideo on January 18, 2018, 05:45:26 PM
Only a handful of seats left for this , Upper Visitors also nearly sold out as WBA not taking it. In fact the coming 3 games the UV has been put on sale to home fans. This shows there is still quite a demand for tickets despite the crap being served up on the pitch.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: brap2 on January 18, 2018, 06:14:20 PM
Yeh I don't think anyone really thinks he's fast as such, but he looks to be able to do what Pienaar used do and manoeuvre himself around defenders in tight spots, with the added benefit of being a lot more stocky to hold them off. Point being he looked as if he wanted to do that, whereas a lot of our players don't want to take that responsibility and pass it on to someone else.

Hes quite strong, seems to come out of a lot of scrambles with the ball, and heís very direct.

Think the main thing is we donít have a lot of players like him in the side and heís quite exciting. Think heíll prove a good finisher as well as longer as we can make a few chances for him.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 18, 2018, 06:34:39 PM
Hes quite strong, seems to come out of a lot of scrambles with the ball, and he’s very direct.

Think the main thing is we don’t have a lot of players like him in the side and he’s quite exciting. Think he’ll prove a good finisher as well as longer as we can make a few chances for him.

Just hope he doesn't get left behind in Sam's short term quest for experience.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sam of the south on January 18, 2018, 08:58:43 PM
I've got a feeling Koeman was right (for once) in that Vlasic would excel in the middle.

Shame we have Our Wayne and our record signing blocking his path.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bluemac34 on January 18, 2018, 10:02:23 PM
                 Pickford

Kenny  Holgate  Williams  Martina

                  Gueye

Walcott      Sig      Vlasic   Rooney

                  Tosun

Robles Jagielka Davies McCarthy Bolasie DCL Beningame Keane

Quite an attacking line up to start, catch West Brom cold.
Rooney to do his usual roam around in the centre of the park. Give Bolasie a break. Decent bench for all
purposes.


Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: mikey_blue on January 18, 2018, 11:05:42 PM
                 Pickford

Kenny  Holgate  Williams  Martina

                  Gueye

Walcott      Sig      Vlasic   Rooney

                  Tosun

Robles Jagielka Davies McCarthy Bolasie DCL Beningame Keane

Quite an attacking line up to start, catch West Brom cold.
Rooney to do his usual roam around in the centre of the park. Give Bolasie a break. Decent bench for all
purposes.




What's worse than Sig on the wing? Rooney on the wing.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bluemac34 on January 18, 2018, 11:11:35 PM
What's worse than Sig on the wing? Rooney on the wing.
but if you read that sentence I said Rooney to do his usual roam around. So not on the wing!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: mikey_blue on January 18, 2018, 11:30:46 PM
but if you read that sentence I said Rooney to do his usual roam around. So not on the wing!

A picture tells a thousand words lol.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ramjam on January 19, 2018, 06:33:01 AM
Must win this to stay away from the rest of the shite on our coat tails, all out attack.

                Pickford
      Holgate Williams jags
JJK.       Gana  Rooney  vlasic
                    Siggy
         Walcott.      Touson.   
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Juanito on January 19, 2018, 04:47:06 PM
             Pickford
Kenny Holgate Jags Martina
       Gana  Davies
Walcott  Sigurdsson Lookman
             Tosun

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ramjam on January 19, 2018, 05:25:07 PM
Has Johnny Evans been sold yet or is he playing?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ravardo on January 19, 2018, 05:57:49 PM
Im sure weve been knocked back with £25m bid for evans
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: D15TIN on January 19, 2018, 09:53:52 PM
Garbutts been pictured in first team training today, assuming theres a good chance he's involved tomorrow? Was left out the u23 squad too
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 19, 2018, 10:12:52 PM
Garbutts been pictured in first team training today, assuming theres a good chance he's involved tomorrow? Was left out the u23 squad too

I'm pretty sure that will get some people on here erect.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 19, 2018, 10:23:25 PM
If we're not trying Garbutt now, then really what's the point? See if he's got anything to contribute, upside is maybe if he shows potential and we can consider pushing off the LB purchase until later IF the right player really isn't around right now.

Otherwise, we're kinda forced into the market, be it a loan or otherwise...but I suppose at least we find out if Garbutt is up for it or not.

I would've thought a LB would be a day one purchase when the window opened, but possibly the targets we want aren't available this window.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Alanvideo on January 19, 2018, 10:31:02 PM
I'm pretty sure that will get some people on here erect.
.............
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on January 19, 2018, 10:45:26 PM
If we're not trying Garbutt now, then really what's the point? See if he's got anything to contribute, upside is maybe if he shows potential and we can consider pushing off the LB purchase until later IF the right player really isn't around right now.

Otherwise, we're kinda forced into the market, be it a loan or otherwise...but I suppose at least we find out if Garbutt is up for it or not.

I would've thought a LB would be a day one purchase when the window opened, but possibly the targets we want aren't available this window.

If heís only just started training with the first team then Iíd guess itíll either be immediately obvious that he could play or itís a waste of time.

Given that we only had 1 LB at the start of the season anyway and no one saw fit to have him train with the first team until he could be registered it suggests that previous managers thought it would be a waste of time.

Guess would be that heís got the window (in training) to show that he should be considered.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 19, 2018, 10:59:36 PM
If heís only just started training with the first team then Iíd guess itíll either be immediately obvious that he could play or itís a waste of time.

Given that we only had 1 LB at the start of the season anyway and no one saw fit to have him train with the first team until he could be registered it suggests that previous managers thought it would be a waste of time.

Guess would be that heís got the window (in training) to show that he should be considered.

Right, I'd agree he probably just has this window (possibly even just a little part of it, we may yet decide to go and buy someone) to show something.

I was just thinking if he was showing something in training, it's probably going to be a rare opportunity for Allardyce to play him and see if he has potential. We know what Martina brings, we hopefully know when Baines will be back. The question mark of the resources we have available right now is Garbutt. You'd think those chances are slim, given the treatment to date but I also think Koeman was a kinda hasty to draw a line under certain players too.

I do like from early interviews Allardyce was mentioning Garbutt by name and wanted to look into what he could offer, so at least Garbutt is getting the benefit of an open mind. We shall see what he does with that chance.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on January 19, 2018, 11:35:45 PM
Has Garbutt been fucking registered or what?

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: D15TIN on January 19, 2018, 11:46:42 PM
Has Garbutt been fucking registered or what?


Think he mustve been- Barkley, Mirallas, Lennon & Gethin Jones (ffs) have gone, tosun & Walcott have come in - surely garbutt gets one of those places.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on January 20, 2018, 12:06:42 AM
Looking forward to Garbutt putting in a 6/10 performance and mass arguing whether he has a good game or not.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 20, 2018, 12:07:39 AM
Think he mustve been- Barkley, Mirallas, Lennon & Gethin Jones (ffs) have gone, tosun & Walcott have come in - surely garbutt gets one of those places.

Especially if there are no more incomings, plenty of free space. I think even Sam Byrne was registered in August for some reason.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: velimski on January 20, 2018, 12:16:52 AM
Looking forward to Garbutt putting in a 6/10 performance and mass arguing whether he has a good game or not.

At least we'd all be able to agree that he should be starting ahead of Cuco.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on January 20, 2018, 12:19:52 AM
At least we'd all be able to agree that he should be starting ahead of Cuco.

You read this place?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 20, 2018, 12:20:23 AM
At least we'd all be able to agree that he should be starting ahead of Cuco.
There's gotta to be a reason that garbutt, 25, can't get a game for anyone bar our u 23s
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lincs Toffee on January 20, 2018, 12:57:21 AM
Has Garbutt been fucking registered or what?
I thought he couldnít play until 31 January
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Simon Paul on January 20, 2018, 01:00:00 AM
There's gotta to be a reason that garbutt, 25, can't get a game for anyone bar our u 23s

Because the people who pick the teams have actually seen him play football recently would be my guess
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Gash on January 20, 2018, 01:01:23 AM
Has Garbutt been fucking registered or what?



He's listed on the OS in the first team but still no squad number, so I'm guessing not.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 20, 2018, 01:01:32 AM
Because the people who pick the teams have actually seen him play football recently would be my guess
Mine too
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Django on January 20, 2018, 01:28:11 AM
Pickford
Kenny Holgate Williams Martina

Schneiderlin McCarthy

Walcott Sig Vlasic
Tosun

Late fitness test for Bolasie, if he passes heís in for Vlasic
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sam of the south on January 20, 2018, 02:34:08 AM
Pickford
Kenny Holgate Williams Martina

Schneiderlin McCarthy

Walcott Sig Vlasic
Tosun

Late fitness test for Bolasie, if he passes heís in for Vlasic

This makes me erect
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 20, 2018, 02:36:31 AM
This makes me erect

Iím running with just a semi due to the Schneiderlin effect.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on January 20, 2018, 02:36:57 AM
Not to moan at anything and everything but what are Schneiderlin and McCarthy going to offer here?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sam of the south on January 20, 2018, 02:39:34 AM
Iím running with just a semi due to the Schneiderlin effect.

Yeah, and Martina and Williams, but let's not ruin each others buzz, bro!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sam of the south on January 20, 2018, 02:40:53 AM
Not to moan at anything and everything but what are Schneiderlin and McCarthy going to offer here?

Hopefully a positionally disciplined screen (yeah, unlikely I know)
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 20, 2018, 02:43:41 AM
Take it Garbutt didnít impress then.
Title: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ramjam on January 20, 2018, 03:00:10 AM
Good to see the Sigg in the 10 role without being hampered by Rooney, that's what we've all been crying out for, over to you Gilfie
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Simon Paul on January 20, 2018, 03:00:11 AM
Hopefully a positionally disciplined screen (yeah, unlikely I know)

Yeah. Rondon and Robson Kanu need a close eye on them
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: brap2 on January 20, 2018, 03:01:31 AM
Iíll take that team mate.

I think McCarthy and Schneids are very ball shy for a two in cm but I HOPE with sig in the middle and pace either side he will be drawn to the ball. Heís definitely got the legs to go centre circle to box for 90 minutes collecting the ball and playing it to the options ahead (before arriving late on the edge of the box and finishing - his best asset, my prediction for what will happen) just whether he has that natural attraction to the ball.

Will be great to see Theo and Tosun, really looking forward to it, hope we get the ball to them and in to good spaces for them plenty.

Not sure what to say about Vlasic cause I dunno how thatíll work, but worried and would rather bolasie I think.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: gizzblue on January 20, 2018, 03:32:55 AM
I'm pretty sure that will get some people on here erect.
And how truly sad our expectations are so low, this is possible .😣
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sam of the south on January 20, 2018, 03:38:48 AM
Yeah. Rondon and Robson Kanu need a close eye on them

They probably do if either of them haven't scored for a while
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: kramer0 on January 20, 2018, 03:52:51 AM
Members of the "Irrationally Big Fans of Nikola Vlasic Club" rejoice!

(And I say that as a full-fledged member of the club.)

Edit: Just saw the bit about Bolasie. Hope he doesn't pass because Vlasic is the only joy I get from this squad.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Gash on January 20, 2018, 04:04:47 AM
The Vlasic love in's gone right over my head. A couple of assists and a goal in the Europa League and that's been about it.

I don't mind him and he's got plenty energy and he seems quite direct but he hasn't really produced anything of note that's caught my attention.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sam of the south on January 20, 2018, 04:10:40 AM
The Vlasic love in's gone right over my head. A couple of assists and a goal in the Europa League and that's been about it.

I don't mind him and he's got plenty energy and he seems quite direct but he hasn't really produced anything of note that's caught my attention.

Has anyone else caught your attention this season, though?

Apart from Rooney and Sigurdsson goals it's been a season of awful or forgettable moments.

So yeah, a 19 year-old who keeps hold of the ball well in tight situations and likes to go towards the oppositions goal has offered a glimmer of hope to me at least.
Title: Team News
Post by: D15TIN on January 20, 2018, 04:15:22 AM
Sigurdsson & Martina have been dropped

Pickford

Kenny
Holgate
Keane
Garbutt

Rooney
Davies
Gana

Walcott
Tosun
Bolasie
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: brap2 on January 20, 2018, 04:15:59 AM
Members of the "Irrationally Big Fans of Nikola Vlasic Club" rejoice!

(And I say that as a full-fledged member of the club.)

Edit: Just saw the bit about Bolasie. Hope he doesn't pass because Vlasic is the only joy I get from this squad.

The Theo-logians patiently await your application. We will be open for submissions from 16:30 Saturday afternoon.
Title: Re: Team News
Post by: sam of the south on January 20, 2018, 04:16:44 AM
Sigurdsson & Martina have been dropped

Pickford

Kenny
Holgate
Keane
Garbutt

Rooney
Davies
Gana

Walcott
Tosun
Bolasie

Not according to @Django (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4371)


ITK Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggghhhh hhhhttttt!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Gash on January 20, 2018, 04:17:57 AM
Has anyone else caught your attention this season, though?

Apart from Rooney and Sigurdsson goals it's been a season of awful or forgettable moments.

So yeah, a 19 year-old who keeps hold of the ball well in tight situations and likes to go towards the oppositions goal has offered a glimmer of hope to me at least.

I don't even think he keeps the ball well does he? Genuine question but all I can think of is him getting the head down and either giving it away or getting tackled rather than opening up a defence and building up an attack or setting up a chance?

I'm not meaning to be down on the lad, I just don't see why there's a clamour from some people to see him played more often than he has been. All three managers this season seem to have had reservations about playing him.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: kramer0 on January 20, 2018, 04:18:13 AM
Sad as it is, I think Vlasic is one of our smarter players in possession.

As in, he looks like he actually thinks before he tries things.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on January 20, 2018, 04:18:34 AM
Iíll take that team mate.

I think McCarthy and Schneids are very ball shy for a two in cm but I HOPE with sig in the middle and pace either side he will be drawn to the ball. Heís definitely got the legs to go centre circle to box for 90 minutes collecting the ball and playing it to the options ahead (before arriving late on the edge of the box and finishing - his best asset, my prediction for what will happen) just whether he has that natural attraction to the ball.

Will be great to see Theo and Tosun, really looking forward to it, hope we get the ball to them and in to good spaces for them plenty.

Not sure what to say about Vlasic cause I dunno how thatíll work, but worried and would rather bolasie I think.


Donít think Schneiderlin is overly ball shy.

Itís just that his style is more shifting it from side to side, with his best pass a switch of play.

For him to be effective with the ball he needs good vertical options to be close to him or lots of movement to the sides in order to unsettle the opposition positionally, or then the team to have good possession which drags players towards one side enabling the switch to the other.

None of which weíve had this season.

Itís without the ball that heís been particularly poor this season looking slow to the tackle etc.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sam of the south on January 20, 2018, 04:20:36 AM
I don't even think he keeps the ball well does he? Genuine question but all I can think of is him getting the head down and either giving it away or getting tackled rather than opening up a defence and building up an attack or setting up a chance?

I'm not meaning to be down on the lad, I just don't see why there's a clamour from some people to see him played more often than he has been. All three managers this season seem to have had reservations about playing him.

Yeah, he keeps it well, and shows good strength.

The 'clamour' is probably in reaction to the utter dross served up all season by others in positions on the field that he could occupy.

No, it isn't ideal to throw in a 19 year-old EPL rookie, but hey, we are shite.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 20, 2018, 04:21:40 AM
Sigurdsson & Martina have been dropped

Pickford

Kenny
Holgate
Keane
Garbutt

Rooney
Davies
Gana

Walcott
Tosun
Bolasie
Two others say different but let's see
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 20, 2018, 04:25:29 AM
Sigurdsson & Martina have been dropped

Pickford

Kenny
Holgate
Keane
Garbutt

Rooney
Davies
Gana

Walcott
Tosun
Bolasie

They haven't.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: D15TIN on January 20, 2018, 04:31:44 AM
That's what I've been passed on, there's a 3Rd different team doing the rounds on twitter now
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 20, 2018, 04:33:19 AM
Feels like we have three new signings if Vlasic plays.
I like the lad, if we invest a bit of time and effort in him I think heís got enough in his locker to reward us with a baller.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Simon Paul on January 20, 2018, 04:36:27 AM
I'm giving this game until October before I decide if we won it or not
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Gash on January 20, 2018, 04:38:16 AM
Sigurdsson & Martina have been dropped

Pickford

Kenny
Holgate
Keane
Garbutt

Rooney
Davies
Gana

Walcott
Tosun
Bolasie

Reckon your mate's on the wind up again, Garbutt isn't in the up to date Premier League squad which includes Walcott so it's been updated in the last 24 hours.

https://www.premierleague.com/clubs/7/Everton/squad
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: D15TIN on January 20, 2018, 04:41:43 AM
We shall see
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ramjam on January 20, 2018, 04:45:44 AM
Looks like @Django gets the cigar
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sam of the south on January 20, 2018, 04:48:33 AM
Looks like @Django (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4371) gets the cigar

Hopefully not like Monica Lewinsky   :o
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ramjam on January 20, 2018, 04:50:58 AM
Hopefully not like Monica Lewinsky   :o

No complaints from Monica that king sized Havana was worth millions to her, the shy little sexeratary
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on January 20, 2018, 05:29:39 AM
Just got the team in from an old source of mine.
Wright
Hibbert Yobo Stubbs Unsworth
Gravesen Carsley Tie Li Naysmith
Radzinski Campbell

Reckon weíll win 1-0 but got a feeling Jeff Winter might fuck us over!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: bluestevie on January 20, 2018, 05:37:13 AM
Just got the team in from an old source of mine.
Wright
Hibbert Yobo Stubbs Unsworth
Gravesen Carsley Tie Li Naysmith
Radzinski Campbell

Reckon weíll win 1-0 but got a feeling Jeff Winter might fuck us over!

Radz to get the only goal, Wazza to come off the bench and do an outrageous showboat
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on January 20, 2018, 05:50:51 AM
Radz to get the only goal, Wazza to come off the bench and do an outrageous showboat

The David Moyes apologists are going to have a field day on here.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: SANA_DR0 on January 20, 2018, 06:19:00 AM
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jamokachi on January 20, 2018, 08:36:08 AM
Reckon your mate's on the wind up again, Garbutt isn't in the up to date Premier League squad which includes Walcott so it's been updated in the last 24 hours.

https://www.premierleague.com/clubs/7/Everton/squad

Also, Gana is injured.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Confucius on January 20, 2018, 11:09:59 AM
I'm giving this game until October before I decide if we won it or not

HAHA!

Brilliant.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 02:26:13 PM
Just got the team in from an old source of mine.
Wright
Hibbert Yobo Stubbs Unsworth
Gravesen Carsley Tie Li Naysmith
Radzinski Campbell

Reckon weíll win 1-0 but got a feeling Jeff Winter might fuck us over!

Li Tie, fuck off Moyes
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 20, 2018, 05:51:21 PM
We don't really need to worry about the threat WBA pose as it is solely Rondon and any combination of Keane , Williams , Jags or Holgate should easily manage him . We need to set out to put them under pressure from the off . Part of me wants to just go 3 at the back so we can ditch Martina and Keane or Holgate should have the legs for that job either side of Williams

Pickford , Holgate , Williams , Keane , Walcott , Gueye , McCarthy , Rooney , Bolasie , Tosun , Sigurdsson .

Bench : Kenny , Vlasic , DCL , Lookman , Scneid .

Too expansive for Sam and maybe the reason I have never played FIFA or Football Manager but we have attacking players and we need to fucking use them because attacking players are shit at defensive football .
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: ally2 on January 20, 2018, 05:56:02 PM
We don't really need to worry about the threat WBA pose as it is solely Rondon and any combination of Keane , Williams , Jags or Holgate should easily manage him . We need to set out to put them under pressure from the off . Part of me wants to just go 3 at the back so we can ditch Martina and Keane or Holgate should have the legs for that job either side of Williams

Pickford , Holgate , Williams , Keane , Walcott , Gueye , McCarthy , Rooney , Bolasie , Tosun , Sigurdsson .

Bench : Kenny , Vlasic , DCL , Lookman , Scneid .

Too expansive for Sam and maybe the reason I have never played FIFA or Football Manager but we have attacking players and we need to fucking use them because attacking players are shit at defensive football .

No full backs OR wing backs?!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 20, 2018, 06:01:24 PM
No full backs OR wing backs?!

Evolution . Don't worry about things like that if you win 10 -0 . It was a bit of  a joke .
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 20, 2018, 06:45:48 PM
The Vlasic love in's gone right over my head. A couple of assists and a goal in the Europa League and that's been about it.

I don't mind him and he's got plenty energy and he seems quite direct but he hasn't really produced anything of note that's caught my attention.

Heís only 19. For his age he shows very good composure and a smart, quick footballing brain. For me a lot of the love is more about potential than his stats at this point is which I agree are nothing impressive.

Think because he plays with a level of maturity and maybe because heís foreign people donít think as much about how young and inexperienced he is and how much better he may yet become.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on January 20, 2018, 07:04:53 PM
It's mad how much these past few years have killed my love for football. Can barely even be arsed to watch us these days.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tony Clifton on January 20, 2018, 07:28:39 PM
Garbuttís just saving his best for his u23s testimonial.  Canít be long now.  Heís like some kind of bizarro universe Tony Hibbert.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: gizzblue on January 20, 2018, 07:32:33 PM
Hedges and trees cut early on ....going on a min,
Coyb let's have a game today ay.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 20, 2018, 08:00:14 PM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/954715140590637057
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 20, 2018, 08:00:29 PM
Yesss Vlasic :)
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 08:00:36 PM
https://twitter.com/philkecho/status/954715168310792192
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on January 20, 2018, 08:01:05 PM
I like that team very much. Direct, pacey, and skillfull.

And no wayward Rooney passing!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Brownie20 on January 20, 2018, 08:01:45 PM
Happy with that team
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on January 20, 2018, 08:01:47 PM
Heís only 19. For his age he shows very good composure and a smart, quick footballing brain. For me a lot of the love is more about potential than his stats at this point is which I agree are nothing impressive.

Think because he plays with a level of maturity and maybe because heís foreign people donít think as much about how young and inexperienced he is and how much better he may yet become.

For me, it's because he's the only one of our young group of players that plays like a young version of a player thats already world class.

I'll get ridiculed for this but he plays like a young Hazard
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on January 20, 2018, 08:03:09 PM
Cant argue there.

Vlasic is a nice surprise. Sig playing centrally.

Nice balance.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Goaljira on January 20, 2018, 08:03:30 PM
@D15TIN (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2618) needs to not trust his mates info.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on January 20, 2018, 08:03:47 PM
Strong bench as well.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: velimski on January 20, 2018, 08:04:49 PM
I like
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 20, 2018, 08:04:50 PM
Well in django again
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 20, 2018, 08:04:54 PM
Schneiderlin must be ripping up trees in training . Think we are going to be dominated in the middle at home . Heres hopeing we are not .
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 20, 2018, 08:05:16 PM
@Django (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4371) delivering again.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on January 20, 2018, 08:05:52 PM
Gana dropped for McCarthy?

Kill me now
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 20, 2018, 08:07:50 PM
For me, it's because he's the only one of our young group of players that plays like a young version of a player thats already world class.

I'll get ridiculed for this but he plays like a young Hazard

Rightly so as he isn't remotely like Hazard at any age . Still good to see him get a chance ahead of Bolasie .
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ross on January 20, 2018, 08:09:38 PM
Lookman changes the game in the Derby then disappears from the team while Vlasic walks in from the cold.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 20, 2018, 08:10:09 PM
Gana dropped for McCarthy?

Kill me now
Ganaís hammy still isnít 100%
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on January 20, 2018, 08:12:06 PM
Rightly so as he isn't remotely like Hazard at any age . Still good to see him get a chance ahead of Bolasie .

Low centre of gravity, quick turning circle, surprisingly strong for his size and can glide past players
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 20, 2018, 08:15:44 PM
Low centre of gravity, quick turning circle, surprisingly strong for his size and can glide past players

Sounds like we have ourselves a Messi . When have you actually seen him do this though ? Mate , I want to see him play and I want to see him do well as I don't think Bolasie has or will deliver . But you are going a bit overboard ( not surprisingly having to watch the shit you have this season ) given what opportunity he has had so far . Still that's your choice .
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: EVERTON 66 on January 20, 2018, 08:17:11 PM
Win 2/0 Walcott
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 20, 2018, 08:17:31 PM
Oh and @dandan for the subs
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: mikey_blue on January 20, 2018, 08:22:54 PM
Oh shit. WBA are deploying Everton's Kryptonite. 2 out of form strikers who've not scored in ages. This could be a blood bath.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sam of the south on January 20, 2018, 08:24:00 PM
Oh shit. WBA are deploying Everton's Kryptonite. 2 out of form strikers who've not scored in ages. This could be a blood bath.

Just what I was thinking last night
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lincs Toffee on January 20, 2018, 08:24:07 PM
@Django (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4371) delivering again.
He is the new shorty
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cereal Killer on January 20, 2018, 08:27:54 PM
Niasse as our striker sub, says a lot for Sandro

DCL and Davies injured?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on January 20, 2018, 08:29:00 PM
Sounds like we have ourselves a Messi . When have you actually seen him do this though ? Mate , I want to see him play and I want to see him do well as I don't think Bolasie has or will deliver . But you are going a bit overboard ( not surprisingly having to watch the shit you have this season ) given what opportunity he has had so far . Still that's your choice .

It's all about potential, I'm not saying he's going to be as good as Hazard, just that he's a (much worse) version of a similar player. The whole conversation is about why people get excited about Vlasic and for me that's why I think people are excited.

Look around out other young players and even as better versions of themselves they're not similar to a current, exciting player. At best we have:

Holgate: Stones maybe?
Davies: Herrera?
Calvert-Lewin: Not sure, someone like Icardi maybe?
Kenny: Coleman
Lookman: Sterling?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Dr. Sponge on January 20, 2018, 08:36:40 PM
I like the team.

But if Gueye isn't 100% with his hammy, why put him on the bench ahead of Davies?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Fynci on January 20, 2018, 08:37:51 PM
He is the new shorty

...or the old Shorty with a new account?!

Conspiracies aside, it's lovely to have a serious ITK on the forum.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Fynci on January 20, 2018, 08:39:39 PM
I like the team.

But if Gueye isn't 100% with his hammy, why put him on the bench ahead of Davies?

What has happened to Davies?!... also Calvert-Lewin? Lookman? Sandro? Klaassen? All are dwindling or have dwindled into nothingness.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: bigl1cks on January 20, 2018, 08:39:59 PM
Not sure why the love in for gueye. His speciality is vacating the midfield and leaving us exposed
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: eugene on January 20, 2018, 08:41:29 PM
https://twitter.com/philkecho/status/954715168310792192
Just what I was after COYB
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: MarcusFenix on January 20, 2018, 08:44:16 PM
No Acestream links on Reddit, anyone got one?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on January 20, 2018, 08:44:22 PM
Any streams?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on January 20, 2018, 08:44:34 PM
Any streams?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: MarcusFenix on January 20, 2018, 08:45:38 PM
Any streams?

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/comments/7rq8yc/1500_gmt_everton_vs_west_bromwich_albion/

Just crappy ad filled streams
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: eugene on January 20, 2018, 08:47:08 PM
I like the team.

But if Gueye isn't 100% with his hammy, why put him on the bench ahead of Davies?
Wasnít Moyes sniffing around Davies
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on January 20, 2018, 08:47:21 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/comments/7rq8yc/1500_gmt_everton_vs_west_bromwich_albion/

Just crappy ad filled streams

Better than nothing, thanks.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tony Clifton on January 20, 2018, 08:49:09 PM
Niasse as our striker sub, says a lot for Sandro

DCL and Davies injured?

DCL rested.  Not sure about Davies?  Anyone?  Hope we're not entertaining the idea of even loaning him out let alone selling.  Especially to West fucking Ham.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on January 20, 2018, 08:52:28 PM
Completely forgot all about Niasse.

Hopefully we can shift him, Sandro and Klassen this window.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: hannu on January 20, 2018, 08:53:09 PM
any acestreams please?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on January 20, 2018, 08:56:09 PM
Can't remember who it is but there is deffo someone on here who consistently posts a belter of a stream, so if you are that person, more of the same please, as my laptop is a piece of jerky shite at the moment.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bluedylan on January 20, 2018, 08:57:25 PM
http://soccerlegacy.net/premier-league-live-stream-3/
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ball8y on January 20, 2018, 08:58:06 PM
http://www.stream2watch.org/stream/73680
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on January 20, 2018, 08:58:12 PM
http://soccerlegacy.net/premier-league-live-stream-3/

Sterling work BD.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Goaljira on January 20, 2018, 08:58:17 PM
At least someone has had some sense and theyre in their away kit.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: hannu on January 20, 2018, 08:58:21 PM
http://watchkobestreams.ml/soccer10.php
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on January 20, 2018, 08:59:57 PM
http://premierleague-lives.com/live/everton-live-stream-2/channel-1/
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on January 20, 2018, 08:59:58 PM
What has happened to Davies?!... also Calvert-Lewin? Lookman? Sandro? Klaassen? All are dwindling or have dwindled into nothingness.


Does prove point re size of the squad.

Not for years have we had a surplus of first team squad players.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ross on January 20, 2018, 09:01:06 PM
Bet the big fella took some grief at goodison
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bluescow on January 20, 2018, 09:01:28 PM
Any mobile streams ?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on January 20, 2018, 09:01:33 PM
DCL is rested, Sandro and Klaasen arent good enough.

Hope Lookman is kept though.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on January 20, 2018, 09:02:43 PM
Hate attacking the Gwladys first.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on January 20, 2018, 09:03:48 PM
First shot on target. Against us.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on January 20, 2018, 09:06:06 PM
Walcott is already pissed off haha.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 09:07:00 PM
Man that space over there again. Amazing.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 09:07:40 PM
Ugh. F off.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 09:07:50 PM
Looked way offside though.

Actually, nope he wasnít. What the hell was Williams doing?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on January 20, 2018, 09:07:56 PM
lol ffs
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: hannu on January 20, 2018, 09:08:20 PM
fucking shite we are
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bluedylan on January 20, 2018, 09:08:33 PM
We don't even try to pass the ball out....ever.

Is it October yet?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on January 20, 2018, 09:08:44 PM
Absolute disgrace.

Why was williams in the fucking midfield.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Dr. Sponge on January 20, 2018, 09:09:09 PM
Holgate
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Zoolander on January 20, 2018, 09:09:24 PM
Fuck me
Zero defending
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on January 20, 2018, 09:09:26 PM
Oh shiiiiiiiit
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lazarou on January 20, 2018, 09:09:42 PM
Ah optimism is a cruel mistress.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Gash on January 20, 2018, 09:10:04 PM
Still, at least he's made us solid at the ba....................
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 09:10:19 PM
Absolute last thing you wanted to do too, give them the option of sitting deep.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on January 20, 2018, 09:10:21 PM
Williams came bursting into midfield when we have 2 DM's
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 20, 2018, 09:10:44 PM
Should be 2 down. What kind of defending is this?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on January 20, 2018, 09:10:48 PM
 lolol What a joke.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ramjam on January 20, 2018, 09:10:53 PM
WBA playing like Barca here
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 09:10:58 PM
We look all over the place.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 20, 2018, 09:11:34 PM
Just turned it on. Not a promising start. Any shots??
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 09:11:41 PM
Tosun expecting McCarthy to keep running forward there. Heíll learn :).
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 09:11:55 PM
Well this is shit isn't it, a draw here isn't good enough
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 20, 2018, 09:12:00 PM
Can't be blaming Holgate. His more experienced defensive partner decided to go walkabout.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: kramer0 on January 20, 2018, 09:12:16 PM
Always good when a team built by Tony Pulis is better in possession than you.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on January 20, 2018, 09:12:17 PM
Atleast we have a decent bench
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on January 20, 2018, 09:12:23 PM
Don't worry lads, Allardyce makes us much more defensively solid.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ari on January 20, 2018, 09:12:28 PM
Holgate

It was Williams (should have stayed in his place) not Holgate. 
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ridge on January 20, 2018, 09:12:31 PM
Didn't realise it was Allardyce's 1000th game. He can retire happy now, NOW.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 09:12:53 PM
Just turned it on. Not a promising start. Any shots??

Theyíve had a couple of one on ones.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Zoolander on January 20, 2018, 09:13:12 PM
We lack a real quality centre mid. A leader. Captain. Not a defensive mid necessarily but someone who controls the game and the team around him. (Dare I say it a Barry)
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Fynci on January 20, 2018, 09:13:23 PM
How many more points do we need for safety?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 20, 2018, 09:13:41 PM
McCarthy and Schneiderlin there treating us to some expansive passing; 5 yards, to each other, again.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on January 20, 2018, 09:14:01 PM
Really need a quality centre half in the summer alongside Holgate. Neither Williams, Jagielka and Keane are good enough. Two out of this three should be binned of.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Gash on January 20, 2018, 09:14:19 PM
Not a great picture but the other stream changed to the Burnley game.

http://firstrowsportes.net/soccer/everton-west-brom-krk591b8b?l=1367923038
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 09:14:20 PM
Commentator said itís been almost 4 hrs since weíve had a shot on target.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ross on January 20, 2018, 09:14:41 PM
iPhone stream anybody?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 20, 2018, 09:15:30 PM
Big Sam in " WE WILL JUST HAVE TO GET EVEN MORE BORING THAN EVEN BORING THAN BORING " shocker .
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 20, 2018, 09:16:14 PM
Not a great picture but the other stream changed to the Burnley game.

http://firstrowsportes.net/soccer/everton-west-brom-krk591b8b?l=1367923038

The one to be watching then eh .
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Dr. Sponge on January 20, 2018, 09:16:16 PM
It was Williams (should have stayed in his place) not Holgate. 

Oh yeah just saw the replay.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bluedylan on January 20, 2018, 09:16:42 PM
The lack of willingness for any of our CMs to get on the frigging ball is really quite shameful.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on January 20, 2018, 09:16:51 PM
Still dont have a dominant midfielder.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on January 20, 2018, 09:17:26 PM
Why do we put up with this?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 20, 2018, 09:17:36 PM
Fuck this. Going the cinema.

Let me know if we get a shot on target 👍
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on January 20, 2018, 09:17:44 PM
We need an Nzonzi style player in there.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 09:18:43 PM
Streams gone off, I dont want another one thanks.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 20, 2018, 09:18:48 PM
The handball shout was a shot on target right?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 09:19:14 PM
Thought that was going to be a shot for a second there.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: BlueMaquis on January 20, 2018, 09:19:18 PM
Still dont have a dominant midfielder.

Even if we did, none of the forwards are moving into space.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: kramer0 on January 20, 2018, 09:19:22 PM
What's the deal with Baines?

Yeah, yeah, his defending has been solid, but part of the reason we're so easy to work out during build-ups is our opponent knows they don't have to bother marking Martina. At least Baines is a threat to break lines with his passing, even if he doesn't get forward like he used to.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheTone on January 20, 2018, 09:20:00 PM
Oh shit. WBA are deploying Everton's Kryptonite. 2 out of form strikers who've not scored in ages. This could be a blood bath.

nailed it
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Paddockoldie on January 20, 2018, 09:20:13 PM
Why do we put up with this?

We're Everton aren't we?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 09:21:24 PM
Williams is a disaster this game.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ridge on January 20, 2018, 09:21:46 PM
Why are we so far forward, we'll concede shots on target at this rate.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Silas on January 20, 2018, 09:22:45 PM
The only thing I am enjoying about this game so far is the mad commentator on bein sports
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: ally2 on January 20, 2018, 09:22:50 PM
Absolutely stupid pass from Williams. Bloke has no brain.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on January 20, 2018, 09:22:51 PM
Team in the bottom 3 are more confident than us.

Pathetic.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ross on January 20, 2018, 09:23:37 PM
Tosun touched it yet?

No sarcasm intended.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ramjam on January 20, 2018, 09:23:48 PM
Clueless
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on January 20, 2018, 09:24:13 PM
Why are we so far forward, we'll concede shots on target at this rate.

Haven't you heard?

Apparently shots on target don't matter, so it doesn't matter if we let them have them
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 09:24:21 PM
Making West Brom look good, no easy feat that
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on January 20, 2018, 09:24:30 PM
Arsenal missing Walcott I see ... (4-0 up in 22 mins)
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bluedylan on January 20, 2018, 09:24:35 PM
Both our CMs have to do everything in straight lines. They only pass and run the way they are facing.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Dr. Sponge on January 20, 2018, 09:24:43 PM
Streams gone. Glad of it, but it's my duty to watch this dross so anyone got another one?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 09:24:44 PM
Tosun touched it yet?

No sarcasm intended.

Couple of times.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Sixx1402 on January 20, 2018, 09:25:00 PM
If we lose this it's all about avoiding relegation.

At least it's gives us something to aim for this season!

This is dire, nearly £50 mill just spent and we see this? On paper we have some very good players

Hopefully we stay up and then Allardyce can do one, fucking rubbish
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sam of the south on January 20, 2018, 09:26:50 PM
Why was Williams recalled?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on January 20, 2018, 09:27:08 PM
This season is the worst
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on January 20, 2018, 09:27:10 PM
Don't know why Williams charged out on their goal
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Gash on January 20, 2018, 09:27:13 PM
Even the streams have fucked off!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sirblue57 on January 20, 2018, 09:27:21 PM
Before Sam goes Walsh should be clearing his desk right now...useless fucker.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: hannu on January 20, 2018, 09:27:32 PM
are we ever gonna have a shot on target?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on January 20, 2018, 09:27:36 PM
Arsenal 4-0 up haha.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 20, 2018, 09:27:46 PM
Big Sam just needs more time and a better squad .
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ridge on January 20, 2018, 09:28:00 PM
Haven't you heard?

Apparently shots on target don't matter, so it doesn't matter if we let them have them

Yeah, madness isn't it. We need to make sure we don't get beat by too many.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Paddockoldie on January 20, 2018, 09:28:09 PM
You can see the reluctance to attack and indecision. Why the fuck we build up and then pass to Martina who then holds it up to put it on his only foot and pass back to where he got it from baffles me...
We are directionless and anxious in our play... these are supposed to be professional players!!!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on January 20, 2018, 09:28:18 PM
Good one: http://www.sport247.live/en/player/5a630e1ea6f7a448335899/14/1046/5a635abbddfc5/EvertonFC-WestBromwichAlbion/768/432
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 09:28:18 PM
Nice cross from Walcott. 1 player in the box though versus 5 or 6.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on January 20, 2018, 09:28:18 PM
Don't know why Williams charged out on their goal

Because he can't play in a team that isn't parking the bus in their own box, he's massively uncomfortable in a high line and it's stupid from Allardyce to start him at home against a bottom three team
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on January 20, 2018, 09:28:38 PM
Great cross from Theo. No one there.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 20, 2018, 09:29:07 PM
If we lose this it's all about avoiding relegation.

At least it's gives us something to aim for this season!

This is dire, nearly £50 mill just spent and we see this? On paper we have some very good players

Hopefully we stay up and then Allardyce can do one, fucking rubbish
The issue is we have a championship level back four with two very poor central midfielders. That's where our problem lies.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on January 20, 2018, 09:29:16 PM
Get Rooney on to play CM.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 20, 2018, 09:30:11 PM
Before Sam goes Walsh should be clearing his desk right now...useless fucker.

Writing off our two new signings already eh?

Iíd say 28 minutes into a debut was a record but itís probably not.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Silas on January 20, 2018, 09:30:49 PM
Better in the last five or so
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 09:31:05 PM
Standard
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bluedylan on January 20, 2018, 09:32:34 PM
Already starting to feel a bit sorry for Tosun and Walcott, as the realisation sets in that they'll mostly be chasing aimless balls into the channels til May.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Meak on January 20, 2018, 09:32:38 PM
Anyone have a still working stream? Mine went out 10 min ago and the last 9 I've clicked on don;t work.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 09:32:46 PM
Man, weíre awful.

Feels like the game is almost over already as we just donít look like scoring.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Zoolander on January 20, 2018, 09:33:13 PM
Sigurdsson covers more ground than the rest of our team put together 
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 09:33:28 PM
Taking the piss on Twitter

https://twitter.com/Everton/status/954738259824906241
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Sixx1402 on January 20, 2018, 09:33:34 PM
The issue is we have a championship level back four with two very poor central midfielders. That's where our problem lies.

Absolutely but still shouldn't be this bad, we can't defend or attack

Can't believe we're not looking for a left back AND a centre back: Jags good but too old, Holgate still learning, Williams enough said. And Keane? Fuck knows what's going on with him.

And why is he playing 2 holding midfielders at home against a team in the relegation zone?!?!

Why not have one with Rooney next to him, fucking beggars belief. Clueless
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Goaljira on January 20, 2018, 09:33:39 PM
Theres got to be someone somewhere in the world who can kick a football with their left foot we can bring in and play at left back.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on January 20, 2018, 09:33:48 PM
Anyone have a still working stream? Mine went out 10 min ago and the last 9 I've clicked on don;t work.

http://www.sport247.live/en/player/5a630e1ea6f7a448335899/14/1046/5a635abbddfc5/EvertonFC-WestBromwichAlbion/768/432
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tony Clifton on January 20, 2018, 09:34:19 PM
Anyone have a still working stream? Mine went out 10 min ago and the last 9 I've clicked on don;t work.

Streams can't handle such shit.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: hannu on January 20, 2018, 09:34:38 PM
Anyone have a still working stream? Mine went out 10 min ago and the last 9 I've clicked on don;t work.

http://soccerlegacy.net/premier-league-live-stream-3/
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Zoolander on January 20, 2018, 09:34:39 PM
Rooney needs to be in for McCarthy - we desperately need someone to feed the forward players
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: kramer0 on January 20, 2018, 09:34:45 PM
I can't find a good reason why Davies shouldn't be in this team.

Who cares if his form hasn't been great? He moves around to create options in possession and he's not a coward like Schneiderlin or McCarthy.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Meak on January 20, 2018, 09:34:52 PM
http://www.sport247.live/en/player/5a630e1ea6f7a448335899/14/1046/5a635abbddfc5/EvertonFC-WestBromwichAlbion/768/432
thank u!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 09:35:42 PM
Like i said earlier, a draw at home against these would be bad, but we need to score to get that, we look clueless, don't know where the goal is
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on January 20, 2018, 09:35:46 PM
http://www.sport247.live/en/player/5a630e1ea6f7a448335899/14/1046/5a635abbddfc5/EvertonFC-WestBromwichAlbion/768/432

Is that working for you? I just get an endless loading and I'm on 200mb connection
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on January 20, 2018, 09:35:49 PM
Yes Rooney... has to be.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ramjam on January 20, 2018, 09:35:55 PM
Get Holgate off the fuckin pitch
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on January 20, 2018, 09:36:16 PM
Holgate poor in possession. Can't go forward like that and then give it away; invites counter.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on January 20, 2018, 09:36:22 PM
Is that working for you? I just get an endless loading and I'm on 200mb connection


Yep, with bog standard broadband.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bluedylan on January 20, 2018, 09:36:44 PM
I'd bring Rooney on before HT and send a message to the CMs that it's just nowhere near good enough to look busy and pass the ball 5 yards in straight lines.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 09:37:04 PM
The middle of the park is just a monumental issue. Williams, Holgate, McCarthy, Schneiderlin. All poor right now.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Paddockoldie on January 20, 2018, 09:37:11 PM
Holgate can't actually pass to his own players
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 09:37:30 PM
Crowd cheering a completed pass by Holgate...thatís not going to help.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 20, 2018, 09:37:46 PM
How can he be contemplating a change already? What is he seeing that he didn't expect, with two holding midfielders against a team fighting relegation. This is exactly what every Evertonian expected, bar the man paid £6m to see it. 
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: hannu on January 20, 2018, 09:37:48 PM
might put £10 on us going down dont even look like having a shot let alone scoring
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on January 20, 2018, 09:38:09 PM
Holgate brought the ball out well but there was no movement ahead of him.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Heisenberg on January 20, 2018, 09:38:11 PM
Sam Allardyce is fucking dog shit. Worse than Martinez and Koeman
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 09:38:12 PM
Ha, crowd cheering shot.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ross on January 20, 2018, 09:38:17 PM
Thatís a JFK moment
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on January 20, 2018, 09:38:44 PM
Shot on Target!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Sixx1402 on January 20, 2018, 09:39:04 PM
WOO HOO shot on target!!!!!!!

Fucking garbage
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Goaljira on January 20, 2018, 09:39:05 PM
Thatís a JFK moment

JJK
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sirblue57 on January 20, 2018, 09:39:07 PM
Writing off our two new signings already eh?

Iíd say 28 minutes into a debut was a record but itís probably not.
What the fuck you on about? . I'm on about the total lack of defence. Quality midfielder, the absolute clusterfuck the team (?) Is. What the fuck has Walsh done? Where is the quality? Style of.play? What is he?
Drs some in here want to wake up. Can't believe the shit some come out with.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ball8y on January 20, 2018, 09:39:14 PM
A shot on target!!!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: hannu on January 20, 2018, 09:39:15 PM
yay for kenny
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on January 20, 2018, 09:39:34 PM
1 on target
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: hannu on January 20, 2018, 09:39:50 PM
shot on target, we will win the league now
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Paddockoldie on January 20, 2018, 09:40:23 PM
Thatís a JFK moment

Nah mate. That took two shots
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 20, 2018, 09:40:26 PM
Loving the ironic cheers then. Four fuckin hours since the last one is disgraceful.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on January 20, 2018, 09:40:56 PM
15:38
SHOT ON TARGET!
Everton 0-1 West Brom

Jonjoe Kenny cuts in from the right onto his left foot, I'm not sure he really wanted to shoot from 20 yards but he does and it's a decent effort, high and on target. Ben Foster gathers it in.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: hamshank33 on January 20, 2018, 09:40:59 PM
I know we're losing but this is the happiest I've been with Everton for a long time
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on January 20, 2018, 09:41:28 PM
Schneiderlin's switches tend to be pretty awful. Not great for a player that is supposed to be the linchpin.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: BlueNoseMike on January 20, 2018, 09:41:39 PM
Goodison gets toxic very easy these days doesn't it? Especially since mid Martinez. Understandable I guess but don't ironically cheer a shot, get yourself going because it is effecting the players
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Silas on January 20, 2018, 09:41:50 PM
We are playing with two pacy wide players and they haven't had the ball at their feet at all.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Goaljira on January 20, 2018, 09:42:10 PM
I know we're losing but this is the happiest I've been with Everton for a long time

Masochist.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: hannu on January 20, 2018, 09:43:04 PM
nice first time pass from tosun and a decent cross too
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 20, 2018, 09:43:14 PM
Dowell just scored his 10th against Wolves . Really hope someone is moved on to make way for him next season .
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 20, 2018, 09:43:23 PM
Think Vlasic might be a bit of a myth. Seems to have gained a great reputation since not playing. Not sure hes any better than any of our other crappy wing options
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 20, 2018, 09:43:53 PM
We are playing with two pacy wide players and they haven't had the ball at their feet at all.

It's because the centre of the park is full of shithouses who can't get the ball to them.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 09:44:00 PM
Going to be boos here at HT.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: kramer0 on January 20, 2018, 09:44:12 PM
How do we fix this? Gana/Rooney for Schneiderlin/McCarthy?

Why do we have a second CB on the bench instead of Davies?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bluedylan on January 20, 2018, 09:44:18 PM
Ashley Williams is such a fucking yard dog of a player. It's grim watching him play for your team on every level.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on January 20, 2018, 09:45:03 PM
Goodison gets toxic very easy these days doesn't it? Especially since mid Martinez. Understandable I guess but don't ironically cheer a shot, get yourself going because it is effecting the players

Replace fans with players and you have a paradox.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on January 20, 2018, 09:45:21 PM
Sarcastic cheers when we had a shot followed by a chorus of 'we've had a shot'

Disgraceful.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 09:45:47 PM
Ashley Williams is such a fucking yard dog of a player. It's grim watching him play for your team on every level.

Baffles me how he gets into this team ahead of Jags and Keane
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 20, 2018, 09:45:50 PM
Think Vlasic might be a bit of a myth. Seems to have gained a great reputation since not playing. Not sure hes any better than any of our other crappy wing options

Have you found your new Lukaku?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 09:46:43 PM
Should be 2 down
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 09:47:12 PM
Tosun plays some nice touches. Think we need 2 strikers up top. Nothing is sticking.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on January 20, 2018, 09:47:26 PM
Tosun is no Lukaku replacement.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 20, 2018, 09:47:28 PM
Replace fans with players and you have a paradox.

Fill it with clones of therealdunc and it will be rockin .
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on January 20, 2018, 09:47:35 PM
Bit poo that.

Thank christ football has 2 halves. Take my hat off for whoever it was who decided that.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 09:47:42 PM
Should be 2 down

3 counting the first one on one.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 20, 2018, 09:47:55 PM
Walcott already pissed of he signed for us.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 09:48:02 PM
Boooooooooooo boooooooooo
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 20, 2018, 09:48:35 PM
who is this second commentator? absolute fucking cunt whoever he is
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on January 20, 2018, 09:48:45 PM
Abysmal.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Heisenberg on January 20, 2018, 09:48:47 PM
Fuck off allardyce shit bastard
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Goaljira on January 20, 2018, 09:49:06 PM
Well that was a resounding success.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on January 20, 2018, 09:49:39 PM
A squad of this quality should not be struggling like this. Buck stops at the manager.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: BlueNoseMike on January 20, 2018, 09:50:04 PM
Replace fans with players and you have a paradox.

Yes I get that argument the players need to get the fans going too. I get that. But sarcastic applause etc is only going to make players play within themselves even more
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: ally2 on January 20, 2018, 09:50:12 PM
I'm fuming.  Streams just won't work for me.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sam of the south on January 20, 2018, 09:50:17 PM
Well, he's definitely succeeded in his task making us more boring this week
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ridge on January 20, 2018, 09:50:22 PM
Too exciting.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 20, 2018, 09:50:38 PM
Watching is like watching a car crash in slow motion. I don't know what the issue is but something feels very rotten about the place at the minute. Players playing within themselves, fans on their case, managers changing but nothing changing on the pitch. I dunno what the answer might be.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 20, 2018, 09:51:27 PM
I'm fuming.  Streams just won't work for me.

Great stream. Unfortunately.

www.sport365.link/en/player/5a630e1ea6f7a448335899/1/1046/5a635a985eea4/EvertonFC-WestBromwichAlbion/960/540
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on January 20, 2018, 09:51:31 PM
Not attacking as a team.

The fleeting moments have been when one or two players link but because itís not a collective plan thatís why you end up with one player in the box.

And if you donít excerpt enough pressure then you will concede chances at the other end.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 20, 2018, 09:51:35 PM
Embarrassing from Williams for their goal. The opposite of defensive discipline.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 09:52:01 PM
Looking at that goal, both defenders getting back arenít busting a gut to get back. Martina starts jogging by the end. Holgate...dunno what he was doing. Clearly Williams was the most at fault though running into midfield when there were plenty of players and not winning the ball.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 09:53:05 PM
Not attacking as a team.

The fleeting moments have been when one or two players link but because itís not a collective plan thatís why you end up with one player in the box.

And if you donít excerpt enough pressure then you will concede chances at the other end.

Think thatís why we need two strikers up top.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 09:53:14 PM
Come on then Allardyce lover's, defend that shite
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ramjam on January 20, 2018, 09:55:12 PM
Unsworth as caretaker for the next game
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: bigl1cks on January 20, 2018, 09:55:13 PM
Come on then Allardyce lover's, defend that shite

You're loving this aren't you.

How about it's not about allardyce, it's about the team?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on January 20, 2018, 09:55:19 PM
Atmosphere is very difficult when itís like that though.

We have always had problems with transferring issues with management or board to not making it more difficult for the players.

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: kramer0 on January 20, 2018, 09:55:26 PM
Our midfield is a dumpster fire.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bluedylan on January 20, 2018, 09:55:37 PM
I think Sam thinks if you put a couple of attacking players on the pitch then goals just....happen.

It's known as the Ronald Koeman gambit.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 09:55:42 PM
You're loving this aren't you.

How about it's not about allardyce, it's about the team?

Bit of both, surely.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Dr. Sponge on January 20, 2018, 09:55:56 PM
Come on then Allardyce lover's, defend that shite

Couldn't if I wanted to. Abysmal.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on January 20, 2018, 09:56:47 PM
Some of you are pathetic and overrating our players

How on Earth is this team expected to beat West Brom at home?

James McLean would be our best player
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 09:57:03 PM
On a positive, I like some of Tosunís link up play. Needs players closer to him though.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 09:58:33 PM
We need players who can score goals on the field, in this team thatíd be Rooney and Niasse I guess.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 20, 2018, 09:58:37 PM
Not attacking as a team.

The fleeting moments have been when one or two players link but because itís not a collective plan thatís why you end up with one player in the box.

And if you donít excerpt enough pressure then you will concede chances at the other end.

It's difficult when both central midfielders don't want anything to do with the game constructively. In fact they're not making much impression defensively either.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on January 20, 2018, 09:59:32 PM
Think Schneiderlin has done alright actually.

McCarthy just pointless in this game (and most)
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ramjam on January 20, 2018, 09:59:42 PM
On a positive, I like some of Tosun's link up play. Needs players closer to him though.

Disagree I donít think heíll make it with us , couple of crosses into the box and heís nowhere to be seen
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 09:59:47 PM
You're loving this aren't you.

How about it's not about allardyce, it's about the team?

Yeah I love watching us get beat, by West Brom honestly!

The team he picked, the tactics, its all about him, hes the manager who took all the praise when we beat Swansea and that, but god help anyone who has a go at him when we lose, its the players fault
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on January 20, 2018, 10:00:10 PM
Disagree I donít think heíll make it with us , couple of crosses into the box and heís nowhere to be seen

Well he put one of them in himself...
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sirblue57 on January 20, 2018, 10:00:19 PM
It's like a bunch is strangers meeting up and having a kick about in the local park....why the fuck did he give them the day off? They obviously don't know each other...they can't seem to pass a ball...do we have a coaching staff ?  What the fuck happens at finch farm? Have they turned it into a fucking petting zoo?
Because there is obviously nothing football related going on there.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 20, 2018, 10:00:23 PM
The issue is we have a championship level back four with two very poor central midfielders. That's where our problem lies.
Yep. This a thousand times.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ridge on January 20, 2018, 10:00:24 PM
It's back to the end of Koemans tenure, all the players are shit again.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on January 20, 2018, 10:01:10 PM
A squad of this quality should not be struggling like this. Buck stops at the manager.
What quality mate?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 10:01:12 PM
It's difficult when both central midfielders don't want anything to do with the game constructively. In fact they're not making much impression defensively either.

The 2 CMs and 2 CMs/DMs are a huge issue. Youíd think with the absence of attacking intent weíd be stronger defensively, but thatís somehow the more shambolic aspect.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on January 20, 2018, 10:01:15 PM
Think Schneiderlin has done alright actually.

McCarthy just pointless in this game (and most)

Heís should be the one getting into / up to the edge of the box.

If youíre not going to be creative then use physical abilities to at least act as a distraction etc.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: kramer0 on January 20, 2018, 10:01:25 PM
I think Sam thinks if you put a couple of attacking players on the pitch then goals just....happen.

It's known as the Ronald Koeman gambit.

And this is exactly the way the club is being managed w/r/t recruitment. It's why I'm such a grump all the time. It's not a viable strategy and things are never going to get better if we keep trying different versions of the same crap transfers over and over.

It's way more important to have midfielders and wingers who know how to work the ball into dangerous areas. Tosun and Walcott address none of our attacking problems, however good their respective records are.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 10:01:45 PM
Bolasie on for Vlasic? Like for like? Really?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on January 20, 2018, 10:01:47 PM
Morgans had one of his better games.

McCarthy off Rooney on, Play Rooney deeper but keep him central, allow Morgan to sit and do what he is meant to do.

If we cant create with those players on the pitch then I have not got a fucking clue.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bluedylan on January 20, 2018, 10:01:54 PM
The only obvious change I can see is playing Rooney really deep in midfield, risking his passing inconsistency and hoping that he can unlock something.

Pumping the ball long from Pickford, which we were doing at 0-0 is absolute meat and drink for the West Brom grocks.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sixymack on January 20, 2018, 10:01:56 PM
Nah mate. That took two shots

Boooommmmmm I LOVE IT LOL
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: ally2 on January 20, 2018, 10:02:08 PM
People were losing it after 10 minutes.  I'm surprised so many have lasted 45 but well done.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on January 20, 2018, 10:02:21 PM
The 2 CMs and 2 CMs/DMs are a huge issue. Youíd think with the absence of attacking intent weíd be stronger defensively, but thatís somehow the more shambolic aspect.

Thatís the issue when you buckle to popular complaints.

You end up doing neither one thing nor the other.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on January 20, 2018, 10:02:25 PM
Bolasie on for who?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ramjam on January 20, 2018, 10:02:39 PM
Well he put one of them in himself...

Siggy cross and Walcott cross. I just think heís out of his depth, hope Iím wrong though
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 10:02:58 PM
Thatís awful from Williams. Oh for a CB who can pass.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ramjam on January 20, 2018, 10:02:58 PM
Bolasie on for who?

Vlasic
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 20, 2018, 10:03:00 PM
So he is keeping two DMs ahahhahahhahahahhahhhahhahhah ahhhhahahhhahha
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on January 20, 2018, 10:03:33 PM
Farhad Moshiri needs to grow some balls and buy out the wankers on the board, take full control of the club, get the right people in and the rest will follow through to manager and players.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on January 20, 2018, 10:04:00 PM
Jesus Christ. Stream worked perfect over half time. We kick off and it's down again.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on January 20, 2018, 10:04:09 PM
The only obvious change I can see is playing Rooney really deep in midfield, risking his passing inconsistency and hoping that he can unlock something.

Pumping the ball long from Pickford, which we were doing at 0-0 is absolute meat and drink for the West Brom grocks.

Best midfield performances were 4-3-3.

Rooney is fine in midfield with runners in there with him.

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Normm on January 20, 2018, 10:04:42 PM
We are too reactive - standing around like statues, waiting for the ball. They have had a whole week to prepare as a TEAM. The performance is getting worse and patience is thin.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 20, 2018, 10:05:08 PM
Win lose or draw there was no optimism for watching us under Allardyce . There will be none until he leaves .
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ramjam on January 20, 2018, 10:05:33 PM
Does Schniderlin realise weíve changed ends
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 20, 2018, 10:05:40 PM
Farhad Moshiri needs to grow some balls and buy out the wankers on the board, take full control of the club, get the right people in and the rest will follow through to manager and players.

That would scare me.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bluedylan on January 20, 2018, 10:06:17 PM
People were losing it after 10 minutes.  I'm surprised so many have lasted 45 but well done.

I've not really sensed any fume. More of a sullen resignation to the inevitable.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on January 20, 2018, 10:06:35 PM
Last few matches have made clear that Kenny still has some ways to go to reach Coleman's level.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ramjam on January 20, 2018, 10:06:38 PM
WBA are cruising here
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cuttyblue on January 20, 2018, 10:07:45 PM
2 shit DMs, this is awful.  Everton and Allardyce on the way back to the lows of earlier this season.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Heisenberg on January 20, 2018, 10:08:17 PM
We are too reactive - standing around like statues, waiting for the ball. They have had a whole week to prepare as a TEAM. The performance is getting worse and patience is thin.

This is the issue for me. It's to rigid. Pass the ball, keep your position and hope someone else wins us the game

No drIve at a ll
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 10:08:47 PM
That was a soft foul.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 20, 2018, 10:09:02 PM
That would scare me.

Me too the mans a fucking cretin .
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 10:09:26 PM
Can we build any sort of pressure?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Confucius on January 20, 2018, 10:10:06 PM
Got a notification so logged onto to see what it was. Turns out we had a shot on target. Sam must be fuming.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on January 20, 2018, 10:10:12 PM
I honestly dont think most of the players really give a fuck.

They go through the motions, do a bit if they feel like..  or dont and let the others or the manager take the flack.

Big contracts and a Club that accepts it cant compete with the big 6, so they think no incentive to perform.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 10:10:29 PM
West Brom, who are in the bottom 3 under Pardew and are shit, looking very very comfortable
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ridge on January 20, 2018, 10:11:22 PM
It's the old islands of responsibility thing isn't it.

People who take responsibility are to blame for everything. People who take no responsibility get paid £10m for damaging a club, or become President of US.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on January 20, 2018, 10:11:38 PM
Still no pattern to our play.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on January 20, 2018, 10:12:11 PM
Do any other teams play with 2 DMs every match?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: djws1788 on January 20, 2018, 10:12:26 PM
Walcott looks like the only one who might make something happen
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on January 20, 2018, 10:12:43 PM
Is that classed as a shot on goal?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: ally2 on January 20, 2018, 10:12:45 PM
Needs Rooney for either McCarthy or Schneiderlein. Now.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cuttyblue on January 20, 2018, 10:13:10 PM
Rooney on NOW pls.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 20, 2018, 10:13:17 PM
I can feel some boos coming soon if we don't threaten the West Brom goal. Shockingly easy for any side we play.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on January 20, 2018, 10:14:04 PM
Christ.. Martina is a joke.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Paddockoldie on January 20, 2018, 10:14:38 PM
Oh shit. The commentator has just mentioned West Brom haven't won away for 10 games... that's us fucked then. We're always the fall guys.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on January 20, 2018, 10:14:42 PM
feel bad for McCarthy.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bluedylan on January 20, 2018, 10:15:00 PM
Great recovery challenge McCarthy but it was his horrendous play in the first place that put us in trouble.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on January 20, 2018, 10:15:10 PM
McCarthy injured yet again.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ramjam on January 20, 2018, 10:15:18 PM
Game changing moment here
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: djws1788 on January 20, 2018, 10:15:25 PM
broken leg for McCarthy?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on January 20, 2018, 10:15:37 PM
Ouuuuuuuuuuch.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ross on January 20, 2018, 10:15:40 PM
Thatís a bad un
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 10:15:50 PM
McCarthy is fucked, Rondon in tears
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 20, 2018, 10:15:58 PM
This cant be fucking good. Rondon is in tears
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ari on January 20, 2018, 10:16:11 PM
Career finished, God bless you McCarthy...
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on January 20, 2018, 10:16:20 PM
Damn...
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on January 20, 2018, 10:16:31 PM
Bring Rooney on this time ? ;)
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 20, 2018, 10:16:40 PM
Great recovery challenge McCarthy but it was his horrendous play in the first place that put us in trouble.

There was an easy ball on out wide for a counter attack but he shit himself and turned round. As per.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 10:17:00 PM
Ugh. Desperately sorry for McCarthy. Coleman going for a word there it looks like.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: ally2 on January 20, 2018, 10:17:03 PM
What's the ref doing with a yellow card
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Goaljira on January 20, 2018, 10:17:04 PM
Seamus knows.  Off to have a word.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lincs Toffee on January 20, 2018, 10:17:28 PM
Rondon clearly going to shoot and took his leg, nasty one
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jamokachi on January 20, 2018, 10:17:58 PM
Got to feel for McCarthy. Poor lad.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Trowel on January 20, 2018, 10:18:25 PM
Horrible.

Must be doubtful for Martin O'Neills next squad.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cuttyblue on January 20, 2018, 10:18:37 PM
Rondon probably heard the snap.  That would unsettle you pretty badly.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: duncandisorderly on January 20, 2018, 10:18:44 PM
Looked the same as the Oviedo one that
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 20, 2018, 10:18:47 PM
Looks like a compound fracture that. Another one out for a year.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: howard1334 on January 20, 2018, 10:18:52 PM
Rondon did nothing wrong. Feel a bit bad for him too.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bluedylan on January 20, 2018, 10:18:58 PM
I'm quite touched by Rondon's reaction there. Very human response.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: ally2 on January 20, 2018, 10:19:11 PM
Never good. I hope this puts things into perspective and fans at the ground now get behind the team.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Major Clanger on January 20, 2018, 10:19:38 PM
Poor lad, how desperately unlucky he is.

For fuck's sake.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Elgoodo1978 on January 20, 2018, 10:19:49 PM
Gutted for him
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 10:19:55 PM
Rondon is clearly in shock, still in tears
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Craig_1878 on January 20, 2018, 10:20:02 PM
Terrible that, what happened though? I was only half watching, it just looked like a good challenge?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on January 20, 2018, 10:20:13 PM
What happened? I lost my stream again.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Major Clanger on January 20, 2018, 10:20:22 PM
I'm quite touched by Rondon's reaction there. Very human response.

Aye, a touch of class.

He was absolutely not at fault either.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 20, 2018, 10:20:44 PM
God hates us
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: djws1788 on January 20, 2018, 10:20:52 PM
come on lads, lift for Macca. just sacrificed himself to keep the game alive
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 20, 2018, 10:21:00 PM
What happened? I lost my stream again.

Glad you lost your stream cos bull shit comment regarding the injury.


In bits at Rondon's reaction there.

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 10:21:02 PM
Saying possibly double leg break.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Paddockoldie on January 20, 2018, 10:21:24 PM
We really are shockingly poor as a team. Got the balance of a two legged stool
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 20, 2018, 10:21:33 PM
Terrible that, what happened though? I was only half watching, it just looked like a good challenge?

Rondon went to shoot and caught the back of his leg. Double break
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on January 20, 2018, 10:21:38 PM
Terrible that, what happened though? I was only half watching, it just looked like a good challenge?

Think Rondon was about to shoot but McCarthy planted his leg in front of him and he kicked through McCarthy's leg instead.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: ally2 on January 20, 2018, 10:22:47 PM
Schneiderlein is hiding
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 10:22:54 PM
Double leg break, just horrible
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Confucius on January 20, 2018, 10:23:25 PM
That sucks. Poor guy
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Craig_1878 on January 20, 2018, 10:23:35 PM
Oh thats horrible :( he really doesnt have any luck does he. Hope he can make a full recovery .
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 20, 2018, 10:24:04 PM
Martin OíNeill is going to be absolutely fuming about his player getting injured on Evertonís watch.

Wish you a quick recovery James.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ari on January 20, 2018, 10:24:23 PM
What happened? I lost my stream again.

Misplaced pass and Rondon was able to shoot... but McCarthy got in the way and Rondon hit McCarthy's leg... no malice there.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sixymack on January 20, 2018, 10:25:32 PM
Gareth Barry running the fucking match
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 10:25:53 PM
Weíre losing and we take off our big money striker? Just bizarre.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 20, 2018, 10:26:00 PM
Gareth Barry walks into our team.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 10:26:15 PM
Oumarrrr
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bluedylan on January 20, 2018, 10:26:21 PM
Great work Rooney and Walcott.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 20, 2018, 10:26:27 PM
Double leg break, just horrible
I know it's awful for the lad but in real terms he's one we'd have wanted to move on to get some money in and replace with one who was up to the task. We have no luck.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: djws1788 on January 20, 2018, 10:26:32 PM
get in Oumar lad!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Gash on January 20, 2018, 10:26:34 PM
1-1 Niasse, Walcott assist.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 20, 2018, 10:26:36 PM
Oumar Niasse take a bow . Allardyce go and fuck yourself.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Goaljira on January 20, 2018, 10:26:43 PM
OUMAR!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ross on January 20, 2018, 10:26:44 PM
Ourmarrrrrr
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 20, 2018, 10:26:46 PM
Welcome to Goodison Cenk.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on January 20, 2018, 10:26:58 PM
hahaha Nissse again
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Evertonian in NC on January 20, 2018, 10:27:11 PM
Gareth Barry running the fucking match

At least the home fans get to see a small glimpse of what proper football looks like.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on January 20, 2018, 10:27:19 PM
We fucking scored a goal lads!!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cuttyblue on January 20, 2018, 10:27:22 PM
Oumar!  What a talisman... what an enigma.

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ramjam on January 20, 2018, 10:27:51 PM
Why the fuck would we sell this lad
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: kramer0 on January 20, 2018, 10:27:54 PM
I don't know why we're so interested in selling Niasse.

The substitute role suits him so well. There's no shame in having a player like that.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on January 20, 2018, 10:28:01 PM
Got a notification so logged onto to see what it was. Turns out we had a shot on target. Sam must be fuming.
Like the fact you talk shit without deviation......we have a perfect storm of shit players..
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Silas on January 20, 2018, 10:28:02 PM
We can't afford to leave Rooney out this team, the only player with a brain
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on January 20, 2018, 10:28:04 PM
My PC crashed.... had to resort to the radio... and we SCORE !
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ball8y on January 20, 2018, 10:28:06 PM
FapFapFap
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Paddockoldie on January 20, 2018, 10:28:23 PM
Allardyce will be made up with the draw as he'll see it as progress.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ridge on January 20, 2018, 10:28:24 PM
Ironic how he keeps saving managers who don't rate him.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lincs Toffee on January 20, 2018, 10:28:36 PM
First touch of the game for Oumar
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Fynci on January 20, 2018, 10:28:43 PM
Oumar!  What a talisman... what an enigma.

Odds on us selling him before the window closes?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 20, 2018, 10:29:12 PM
I don't know why we're so interested in selling Niasse.

The substitute role suits him so well. There's no shame in having a player like that.

Heís also a cult hero. Given the horrible atmosphere around Goodison, Sam would be wise to keep as many characters that keep the fans onside as he can.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 10:29:19 PM
If anyone dares to sell Niasse in this window, or even think about it, they should be fired.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: mikey_blue on January 20, 2018, 10:29:57 PM
late to the party. Any aestreams or streams in general?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bluedylan on January 20, 2018, 10:30:09 PM
See the way Rooney actually picked out a man though, rather than aiming for an area and percentages like the rest of our players.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 20, 2018, 10:30:19 PM
I don't know why we're so interested in selling Niasse.

The substitute role suits him so well. There's no shame in having a player like that.

He looks happy with that role as well. Valuable member of the squad.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blue slug on January 20, 2018, 10:30:25 PM
He scores goals be fucking insane to sell him, big love for niasse
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: djws1788 on January 20, 2018, 10:30:43 PM
all set up for Theo to score the winner on debut now
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Fynci on January 20, 2018, 10:31:10 PM
Hope Cenk realises the boos were for the substitution, and not for him.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sixymack on January 20, 2018, 10:31:20 PM
late to the party. Any aestreams or streams in general?

http://www.vipbox.nu/football/485866/3/everton-vs-west-bromwich-albion-live-stream-online.html
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 20, 2018, 10:32:22 PM
Hope Cenk realises the boos were for the substitution, and not for him.

Yeh it'll be a few weeks before the boos are directed at him yet.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on January 20, 2018, 10:32:25 PM
Emergency stream guys, mines fucked.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cuttyblue on January 20, 2018, 10:32:26 PM
As long as Niasse stays on the shoulder of the last defender, he does well.  When he comes deep, his limitations are dreadfully exposed.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Gary1878 on January 20, 2018, 10:32:40 PM
Heís also a cult hero. Given the horrible atmosphere around Goodison, Sam would be wise to keep as many characters that keep the fans onside as he can.

Bang on mate. This guy is someone that lifts the fans and we donít have anyone else like Oumar that can do that. Maybe Lookman at a push, but he is too inexperienced to come on and effect a game at this level at the moment like Niasse can.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 20, 2018, 10:32:55 PM
Hope Cenk realises the boos were for the substitution, and not for him.

Hope the fans realise itís not helpful to boo substitutions. Took all of 60 seconds for the sub to be vindicated.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on January 20, 2018, 10:33:11 PM
Unlucky walcott, great connection
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 20, 2018, 10:33:24 PM
Hope Cenk realises the boos were for the substitution, and not for him.

You have obviously never witnessed Turkish hostility . He probably never noticed .
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on January 20, 2018, 10:33:30 PM
Shot Walcott
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on January 20, 2018, 10:33:35 PM
Cometh the hour...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DT_3GLkXcAAh0VL.jpg)
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: hannu on January 20, 2018, 10:34:02 PM
anyone with a decent link mine has gone off
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ari on January 20, 2018, 10:34:12 PM
An assist and a world class shot... not a bad start for Walcott.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on January 20, 2018, 10:34:17 PM
By the way, that goal tells you why it's fucking stupid playing two defensive midfielders at home to a side like this.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Silas on January 20, 2018, 10:34:57 PM
Great effort from Walcott
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 20, 2018, 10:34:58 PM
Iím not sure if itís been pointed out before, but Martina is an absolute pile of ballbags.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cuttyblue on January 20, 2018, 10:35:39 PM
By the way, that goal tells you why it's fucking stupid playing two defensive midfielders at home to a side like this.

All three managers have tried this shite setup this year and the results have been the same. 
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: brap2 on January 20, 2018, 10:36:33 PM
We are borderline unwatchable for me. Absolutely awful, awful football. Canít believe what Iím watching at home against these.

this team is awful. This manager is equally as awful.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sixymack on January 20, 2018, 10:36:58 PM
Anyone know what Bolassie brings to the team?  He was shite before the injury, and equally shite on his return.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on January 20, 2018, 10:38:03 PM
That's god awful from the defense there. Fucking hell.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: hannu on January 20, 2018, 10:38:25 PM
Anyone know what Bolassie brings to the team?  He was shite before the injury, and equally shite on his return.

he had a shot on target
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Dr. Sponge on January 20, 2018, 10:38:37 PM
By the way, that goal tells you why it's fucking stupid playing two defensive midfielders at home to a side like this.

It only works if you have flying attacking full backs. We have Martina and a kid.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ross on January 20, 2018, 10:38:39 PM
Having far to many opportunities here
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on January 20, 2018, 10:38:40 PM
Pickford loves palming things back into the area
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: kramer0 on January 20, 2018, 10:38:58 PM
Our inability to build anything down the left still causing problems, in a development that will surprise absolutely no one.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bigstickytoffee on January 20, 2018, 10:40:00 PM
We are fucking woeful.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 20, 2018, 10:40:30 PM
Pickford loves palming things back into the area

Really dont think hes been that great this season. So much is pushed back into the middle. Done it twice already today
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on January 20, 2018, 10:41:07 PM
Wish we had Alan Pardew as manager.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ball8y on January 20, 2018, 10:41:36 PM
Trying to throw this game away.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on January 20, 2018, 10:42:21 PM
Two players who do give a fuck, Rooney and Niasse, have given us a chance here.

Most of the starters today should be ashamed.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: kramer0 on January 20, 2018, 10:42:46 PM
Wish we had Alan Pardew as manager.

No you don't.

(Apologies if that was sarcasm.)
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on January 20, 2018, 10:43:19 PM
Walcott almost in there if Niasse had managed to poke it through, great quick feet from Sig though
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 20, 2018, 10:43:26 PM
Must be an absolute cunt trying to play with fans second guessing your every touch like this.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on January 20, 2018, 10:43:50 PM
No you don't.

(Apologies if that was sarcasm.)

If it was him or Sam. Well... at least Pardew has his team playing somewhat.

But deep down. Well, not deep down, I wouldn't want either.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheTone on January 20, 2018, 10:44:26 PM
10mins injury time??
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bigstickytoffee on January 20, 2018, 10:44:39 PM
Our central midfield play is non existent. No ideas, no creativity, no strength, no pace. As for trying to play from the back, why are we bothering? We can't do it and look likely to lose the ball and a goal every time. I don't like long ball tactics but this bunch of misfits can't play any other way.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: stirlingblue on January 20, 2018, 10:44:47 PM
Should that not be a red for denying a goal scoring opportunity?

Niasse was through on goal there
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: hannu on January 20, 2018, 10:45:20 PM
Must be an absolute cunt trying to play with fans second guessing your every touch like this.

well they should stop being shit then
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sixymack on January 20, 2018, 10:45:22 PM
Fucking straight RED CARD
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ari on January 20, 2018, 10:45:23 PM
thought it was a red one...?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blargins on January 20, 2018, 10:46:04 PM
We could have all of City's players and we'd still be struggling.

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bluedylan on January 20, 2018, 10:46:14 PM
Nah it's not a red that
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Smingers on January 20, 2018, 10:46:27 PM
We're playing against 2nd bottom here. Our performance says it all about fat sam
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheTone on January 20, 2018, 10:47:03 PM
Bolasie absolute shit here
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: hannu on January 20, 2018, 10:47:36 PM
first forward pass in morgans career and everyone is offside
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: brap2 on January 20, 2018, 10:48:11 PM
Iím really worried like.

Weíve got some terrible decision makers (on the pitch and off it). Need almost a complete overhaul.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on January 20, 2018, 10:48:24 PM
0 confidence football is the worst man.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Dr. Sponge on January 20, 2018, 10:49:09 PM
Bolasie is like an annoying fucking greedy daft arrogant under 14s player who's thinks he's better than he is.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 20, 2018, 10:49:12 PM
Never looked forward to a season being over so much as I do now.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 10:49:49 PM
7 mins of stoppage time
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sam of the south on January 20, 2018, 10:51:11 PM
If we fluke a win it would be both amazing and unjust
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on January 20, 2018, 10:51:44 PM
We are awful... How has it gotten to this?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Redartin on January 20, 2018, 10:51:49 PM
Most of the starters today should be ashamed.

This is a statement that was said during Martinez, Koeman and Unsworth's spells as managers.

Add in the turn around of playing staff etc and there is something fundamentally wrong at this club. Somewhere there is a common denominator that needs to go because we have been playing in fits and start for years now, doesn't matter who is in charge or who we buy.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on January 20, 2018, 10:52:23 PM
Remember the days when we used to have actual midfield fooballer's like Arteta, Pienaar, Osman...

So sad the shite we are watching now. Clueless, overpriced garbage.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 20, 2018, 10:52:32 PM
Bolasie is like an annoying fucking greedy daft arrogant under 14s player who's thinks he's better than he is.

He shouldn't be in the first team until someone drills into him it's a team game.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 20, 2018, 10:52:34 PM
If we fluke a win it would be both amazing and unjust

Dunno. We are shit but then theyíre even shitter.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Tinga on January 20, 2018, 10:53:28 PM
Good result this.. lol
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 10:53:52 PM
A point at home against the team second bottom in the league

Sam will be happy though.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheTone on January 20, 2018, 10:53:59 PM
lucky to get a point there
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on January 20, 2018, 10:54:12 PM
Fuck meeeeeeee
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 10:54:36 PM
Rondon still in bits
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cuttyblue on January 20, 2018, 10:54:40 PM
Hit the bar for WBA.

Again you ask, "How are we in 9th?"

"Hanging on to a point at home vs. West Brom"  Horrible.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Smingers on January 20, 2018, 10:54:45 PM
Boring enough for u Sam? And u want to sell Niasse? Do one will ya!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ramjam on January 20, 2018, 10:55:27 PM
Thanks again Oumar
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: pjk on January 20, 2018, 10:55:59 PM
I didn't see the game, but it's a terrible result. Get well soon James McCarthy.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Everton Mint on January 20, 2018, 10:56:07 PM
Where would we be without Niasse this season.

Joke of a team.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 20, 2018, 10:56:16 PM
Canít wait to argue about this all week in the Big Sam thread.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Elgoodo1978 on January 20, 2018, 10:56:19 PM
Shocking!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ari on January 20, 2018, 10:56:24 PM
Rooney was horrible for the last two minutes or so... first he was arguing with the ref.  (and delaying play) then he gave the ball to Rondon (who hit the post/bar) and then his last tackle..
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sam of the south on January 20, 2018, 10:56:43 PM
These haven't all suddenly become bad players.

The club is poor from top to bottom at the moment.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Craig_1878 on January 20, 2018, 10:57:06 PM
Just shite.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Gary1878 on January 20, 2018, 10:57:16 PM
The problem is we donít have an identity. Therefore we donít have a way of playing which means we donít score goals. Under Moyes, we knew that Baines and Pienaar was a major source of attacking play. We also had other partnerships like Cahill and Yak up top or Carsley/Gravesen. We donít have any partnerships anywhere on the pitch, and so no real connection when attacking.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Smingers on January 20, 2018, 10:57:31 PM
Where would we be without Niasse this season.

Joke of a team.

Relegated
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on January 20, 2018, 10:57:33 PM
Actually think Allardyce is just taking the piss out of managing the side. We were so desperate to get him, he's doing it his way. :-)
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 10:58:18 PM
Rooney was horrible for the last two minutes or so... first he was arguing with the ref.  (and delaying play) then he gave the ball to Rondon (who hit the post/bar) and then his last tackle..

Rooney provides a forward pass on occasion, which is somehow an upgrade on the two usually very defensively minded CMs in there.

However, I still feel he is far from the solution we need back there. It's just out of desperation, which isn't the position we should be in.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: fubarruk on January 20, 2018, 10:58:38 PM
Fucking pathetic from top to bottom
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ball8y on January 20, 2018, 10:59:06 PM
where are the 12 points we still need going to come from?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Redartin on January 20, 2018, 10:59:30 PM
We are awful... How has it gotten to this?

Ferguson retired at United.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 10:59:56 PM
It's kinda worrying that there were even rumours of selling Niasse. We shouldn't be entertaining the notion of letting anyone go who has scored this season for us. They are like gold dust.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 20, 2018, 11:00:00 PM
The problem is we don’t have an identity. Therefore we don’t have a way of playing which means we don’t score goals. Under Moyes, we knew that Baines and Pienaar was a major source of attacking play. We also had other partnerships like Cahill and Yak up top or Carsley/Gravesen. We don’t have any partnerships anywhere on the pitch, and so no real connection when attacking.

Managers who change the team every fucking week mean the chance of partnerships developing are lessened . Koeman and Allardyce suffer from there own fucking egos and it is as if the team fails despite them not because of them .
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 11:00:04 PM
No leaders on the pitch at all, not one player who will happily put his foot on the ball and pick a pass out. The players look like they don't know what they're supposed to be doing at all, its horrible to watch
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Sixx1402 on January 20, 2018, 11:00:20 PM
Crap result, even worse performance.

Saved again by Niasse who's looks to be on his way out.

You couldn't make this shit up, half those players can do one and Allardyce should be first out of the door.

I just hope we stay up and then get some personel in who are actually competent and can play football. Not hoofball to no-one. Fucking football.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jamokachi on January 20, 2018, 11:00:27 PM
I'm not sure I can bring myself to watch us play with Allardyce in charge. It's soul sapping. Football is supposed to be enjoyed ffs.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: blueToffee on January 20, 2018, 11:00:31 PM
where are the 12 points we still need going to come from?

1 point at a time by the looks of it.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: kramer0 on January 20, 2018, 11:00:38 PM
So many Premier League ProvenTM players letting us down.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Paddockoldie on January 20, 2018, 11:01:16 PM
Ahh... remember when we couldn't wait to get Bolasie back? Some short memories on here.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheTone on January 20, 2018, 11:01:20 PM
how the fuck are we going to get to 40 points with these lot of shithouses?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on January 20, 2018, 11:02:56 PM
Thought that 7 minutes of injury time summed us up.

Slag the players off all you want but if Pardew can get Tony Pulis players creating chances at the end like that then there's no fucking reason Allardyce shouldn't be able to do it with our players.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Normm on January 20, 2018, 11:03:15 PM
Best wishes to James Mc.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on January 20, 2018, 11:03:25 PM
Hope Cenk realises the boos were for the substitution, and not for him.
We are probably the most toxic fans around nowadays....sad
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on January 20, 2018, 11:03:26 PM
Won't need 40 points, the league is that dire. 36 will do it and we will get 8 more points.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 20, 2018, 11:03:43 PM
Absolutely woeful
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jamokachi on January 20, 2018, 11:03:45 PM
I still maintain it's the instructions over the quality of player.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 11:04:03 PM
Thought that 7 minutes of injury time summed us up.

Slag the players off all you want but if Pardew can get Tony Pulis players creating chances at the end like that then there's no fucking reason Allardyce shouldn't be able to do it with our players.

Correct
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: griff969 on January 20, 2018, 11:04:21 PM
I cannot believe we train to be like that. So disjointed. We are just a bunch of individuals on the pitch and the game decends into a schoolyard situation. We need to find something, or someone to gel that team together.

West Brom were very unlucky not to walk away with all three points.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on January 20, 2018, 11:04:23 PM
The problem is we donít have an identity. Therefore we donít have a way of playing which means we donít score goals. Under Moyes, we knew that Baines and Pienaar was a major source of attacking play. We also had other partnerships like Cahill and Yak up top or Carsley/Gravesen. We donít have any partnerships anywhere on the pitch, and so no real connection when attacking.

3 managers this season and a team in which nearly every player wasnít playing here 18 months ago.

Need to fix on an idea of the best XI and make it work rather than changing every time it doesnít.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Sixx1402 on January 20, 2018, 11:05:22 PM
Not in a million years would i be selling Niasse.

I agree he's not a great starter but he's a brilliant impact sub and not only that he'd probably be happy with that role!

Reminds me a bit of Solskjaer for the Man U of old, works his arse off, never complains and bangs them in when he comes on against a tiring defence.

Selling him is a terrible idea at the moment, he's the only fucker who can score!!!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: chang on January 20, 2018, 11:06:09 PM
how the fuck are we going to get to 40 points with these lot of shithouses?

Fortunately 35 will keep any team in the league.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheTone on January 20, 2018, 11:06:13 PM
i'm in the shit manager and shit players camp , in terms of shitness, I think the players are actually shitter than the shit manager

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Evertonian in NC on January 20, 2018, 11:06:27 PM
Won't need 40 points, the league is that dire. 36 will do it and we will get 8 more points.

And the sad thing is...we probably need to achieve safety by 1 point or on Goal Differential, or ownership will give this corrupt, anti-footballing bastard the summer + 10 matches to hollow us out even further.  Then we will be down within 2-3 seasons, count on it.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jamokachi on January 20, 2018, 11:07:00 PM
i'm in the shit manager and shit players camp , in terms of shitness, I think the players are actually shitter than the shit manager

Nah
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Evertonian in NC on January 20, 2018, 11:07:16 PM
Not in a million years would i be selling Niasse.

I agree he's not a great starter but he's a brilliant impact sub and not only that he'd probably be happy with that role!

Reminds me a bit of Solskjaer for the Man U of old, works his arse off, never complains and bangs them in when he comes on against a tiring defence.

Selling him is a terrible idea at the moment, he's the only fucker who can score!!!

When you're in the shit, you need players who can wallow in the muck.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Sixx1402 on January 20, 2018, 11:07:19 PM
I still maintain it's the instructions over the quality of player.

It 100% is, players don't go shit overnight, its blindingly obvious
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ari on January 20, 2018, 11:07:35 PM
Thought that 7 minutes of injury time summed us up.

Slag the players off all you want but if Pardew can get Tony Pulis players creating chances at the end like that then there's no fucking reason Allardyce shouldn't be able to do it with our players.

No one at Everton has been bought by Tony Pulis...
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Normm on January 20, 2018, 11:07:48 PM
Can we have Unsworth back, please?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: ally2 on January 20, 2018, 11:07:57 PM
I still maintain it's the instructions over the quality of player.

And how exactly did you come to this conclusion?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheTone on January 20, 2018, 11:08:58 PM
It 100% is, players don't go shit overnight, its blindingly obvious

players have been shit for a few years now
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Goaljira on January 20, 2018, 11:09:09 PM
3 managers this season and a team in which nearly every player wasnít playing here 18 months ago.

Need to fix on an idea of the best XI and make it work rather than changing every time it doesnít.

Ronald Koeman/Steve Walsh wasted an absolute fuckton of money replacing the shite left by Martinez with decent players who don't complement each other.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Evertonian in NC on January 20, 2018, 11:09:25 PM
Imagine YOU were a player on this side...where the shit would YOUR head be?  Imagine you were Tom Davies.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TSGun on January 20, 2018, 11:09:57 PM
There's something wrong with the culture of the entire club at the moment. We seem in a state of flux.

Personally I don't think there's been too many bad decisions made recently on face value, that's from top to bottom, the desire to at least try and improve the overall product is there but...

I hope where experiencing nothing more than the overdose of hormones a teenager endures before realising maturity.

One can only hope.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 11:12:38 PM
Owen and the plebs on bbc sport calling McCarthy McCarthur

Twats
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 20, 2018, 11:12:47 PM
We are probably the most toxic fans around nowadays....sad
It's not happened overnight. For no reason.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Sixx1402 on January 20, 2018, 11:12:55 PM
players have been shit for a few years now

I just can't agree i'm afraid, they are not shit players, they playing in a system that is complete crap.

Some of them aren't good enough i agree and we should look to get rid if possible. We deffo need a CB and LB in at some point.

We've just bought 2 players in for nearly £50 mill and they were by and large shit today aswell. They weren't shit last week,

It's the tactics and team selection mate, simple as that
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Normm on January 20, 2018, 11:13:38 PM
Allardyce can't chew gum and think at the same time.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Goaljira on January 20, 2018, 11:13:59 PM
Tibia and Fibia fracture for McCarthy.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Evertonian in NC on January 20, 2018, 11:14:19 PM
Allardyce can't chew gum and think at the same time.

And he's always chewing gum.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: GLewis on January 20, 2018, 11:15:08 PM
Ronald Koeman/Steve Walsh wasted an absolute fuckton of money replacing the shite left by Martinez with decent players who don't complement each other.

Discontinuity of selection has been an issue all season (partly influenced by the Europa demands).

No chance to build up relationships

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Silas on January 20, 2018, 11:15:15 PM
Too much expected from our young players not enough coming from most of our experienced players and we are playing in a way that sucks the joy out of any game.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 11:15:16 PM
Tibia and Fibia fracture for McCarthy.

Just seen a pic of it, nearly threw up
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheRam on January 20, 2018, 11:17:07 PM
What an all round horrible experience that game was.

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Goaljira on January 20, 2018, 11:17:27 PM
Discontinuity of selection has been an issue all season (partly influenced by the Europa demands).

No chance to build up relationships

Its no surprise the 3 games we kept mostly the same team (West Ham onwards) was our best spell.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Normm on January 20, 2018, 11:18:33 PM
Just seen a pic of it, nearly threw up

Could be career ending.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: griff969 on January 20, 2018, 11:20:39 PM
Keoman was clear he wanted a striker and a left sided centre half (who could cover LB) with about 10 days to go in the Summer window. Part of that has now been addressed but we have nothing down our left side because Martina will not gamble and get forward.

Now we have an issue in the middle of the park where we cannot move the ball forward.

The overhaul in Evertons squad has been rapid but when other clubs have done it they have done it around a spine of a team. Our spine was probably Stones, Barkley and Lukaku. All gone, nothing to build around, no contant players on the team sheet for every game.

This just feels like we are buying as many players as we can in the hope of finding something that works. But it is not.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 20, 2018, 11:21:05 PM
Could be career ending.

Possibly, the pic I saw was similar to David Busst, could see the bone
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Normm on January 20, 2018, 11:24:07 PM
Its no surprise the 3 games we kept mostly the same team (West Ham onwards) was our best spell.

And that was Unsworth's set up. On his last game, they finally started to play like a team.

It's been going downhill ever since. But the Theo W. transfer looks very good.

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TSGun on January 20, 2018, 11:24:33 PM
And he's always chewing gum.
Hey EiNC, have you been on holiday. Haven't heard from you in awhile...or am I just that slack to notice.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Redartin on January 20, 2018, 11:28:09 PM
If an Unsworth team produced that load of shite there would be mayhem.
There would be quotes of,

"He is out of his depth, pity cause he loves the club."

"He got the job too soon, maybe he should drop to a Championship team for a few seasons and prove himself."

Wonder how Unsworth feels watching this shite. I'm not saying we should have carried on with him, but if we had, we could have watched similar shite and Mosh could have used his millions on a LB instead of bringing in the massiah who doesn't look like he can walk on water any more.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 20, 2018, 11:30:32 PM
Possibly, the pic I saw was similar to David Busst, could see the bone

Awful break .
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on January 20, 2018, 11:33:02 PM
It's not happened overnight. For no reason.

true but we've  had worse teams and always understood why, maybe this time it's been the optimism of the takeover that's created the bitter over the failure since, we don't accept failure as well as we used to.but the reality is it's same old....
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bally on January 20, 2018, 11:40:12 PM
We were fucking shite today, absolutely fucking shite, anyone defending the dinosaur now needs their fucking head testing
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: brap2 on January 20, 2018, 11:41:46 PM
where are the 12 points we still need going to come from?

Still have a lot of shite to play :

Brighton, Newcastle, Palace and Southampton at home - surely 6-8 points in there for us somewhere?

Then away - Watford, Stoke, Huddersfield, West Ham - surely 3-7 points in there?

Worst case Iíve laid out leaves us to need 3 points from :

Leicester (h), arsenal (a), Burnley (a), City (h), and Liverpool (h)

So errr...could do with picking up points soon definitely but thereís lots of games left.

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Evertonian in NC on January 20, 2018, 11:42:32 PM
Hey EiNC, have you been on holiday. Haven't heard from you in awhile...or am I just that slack to notice.

No, I quit watching games during Allardyce's spell, and only this week decided to start posting again.  Been following results and news past few weeks.  Time to start fighting to get our Everton back before it's too late.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on January 20, 2018, 11:42:58 PM
We were fucking shite today, absolutely fucking shite, anyone defending the dinosaur now needs their fucking head testing

Not his fault Everton were desperate to give him a job is it?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 20, 2018, 11:43:27 PM
true but we've  had worse teams and always understood why, maybe this time it's been the optimism of the takeover that's created the bitter over the failure since, we don't accept failure as well as we used to.but the reality is it's same old....

We've played shite before but then we had shite players so we understood. I remember the dark days under Walter Smith when we played about 8 defenders at home and no-one was moaning in the alehouse after the game like they do now.
We expect more because the quality is there. Maybe the commitment isn't though and that might be a combination of the modern day footballer as well as how they're managed. 
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Evertonian in NC on January 20, 2018, 11:45:59 PM
Not his fault Everton were desperate to give him a job is it?

Kind of like that story in "Natural Born Killers" where the old woman lays dying and the snake says "Bitch, you knew I was a snake!"
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ridge on January 20, 2018, 11:47:07 PM
Yeah, no doubt, hire a clown, expect a circus.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Normm on January 20, 2018, 11:59:21 PM
If an Unsworth team produced that ... there would be mayhem.
There would be quotes of,

"He is out of his depth, pity cause he loves the club."

"He got the job too soon, maybe he should drop to a Championship team for a few seasons and prove himself."


 This was Allardyce's 1000'th match as a football manager, but what was the expiry date???
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: bluenuck on January 21, 2018, 12:07:20 AM
Still have a lot of shite to play :

Brighton, Newcastle, Palace and Southampton at home - surely 6-8 points in there for us somewhere?

Then away - Watford, Stoke, Huddersfield, West Ham - surely 3-7 points in there?

Worst case Iíve laid out leaves us to need 3 points from :

Leicester (h), arsenal (a), Burnley (a), City (h), and Liverpool (h)

So errr...could do with picking up points soon definitely but thereís lots of games left.

Really sad we're even having to do this^^.

We just got nothin this season, do we? We're just shite.  :'(
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 21, 2018, 12:10:31 AM
They had 15 shots. West Brom came to Goodison under Alan Pardew and had 15 shots at goal and some think we're not in trouble.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Macca77 on January 21, 2018, 12:17:58 AM
They had 15 shots. West Brom came to Goodison under Alan Pardew and had 15 shots at goal and some think we're not in trouble.

To be honest my lads under 12's team could have more than that against a defence with Williams and Martina in it
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: chang on January 21, 2018, 12:23:45 AM
Still have a lot of shite to play :

Brighton, Newcastle, Palace and Southampton at home - surely 6-8 points in there for us somewhere?

Then away - Watford, Stoke, Huddersfield, West Ham - surely 3-7 points in there?

Worst case Iíve laid out leaves us to need 3 points from :

Leicester (h), arsenal (a), Burnley (a), City (h), and Liverpool (h)

So errr...could do with picking up points soon definitely but thereís lots of games left.



Yep - but we are getting to the point in the season where teams are fighting for survival, when odd results happen. I don't think for one moment we are in danger of relegation, but likewise you have to respect any opposition and see them as a threat in any game ... it's really tight below us, but the sheer number of teams looking over their shoulders actually helps..just my opinion of course!
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: gizzblue on January 21, 2018, 12:30:06 AM
Our worst performance yet under Allardyce at home ...fucking awful to watch and even worse as a fan .
Feel for McCarthy though seemed the only one (before Niasse came on) actually getting stuck in.
Maybe all this time off should be spent passing a ball in training .
Utter shite .
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Django on January 21, 2018, 12:38:37 AM
That first half was one of the most abject Iíve ever witnessed.

How Schneiderlin is even near the squad never mind a guaranteed starter is beyond me. He is a shithouse in every sense of the word.

Replace him with NíZonzi or someone of that ilk and weíll see improvements immediately. The amount of times that twat had the ball today and decided to check and play it back was infuriating.

Niasse delivers yet again and shows exactly why he should be kept and used as our back up all the time.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: UnsyisaRhino on January 21, 2018, 12:39:31 AM
Our worst performance yet under Allardyce at home ...fucking awful to watch and even worse as a fan .
Feel for McCarthy though seemed the only one (before Niasse came on) actually getting stuck in.
Maybe all this time off should be spent passing a ball in training .
Utter shite .

This is pretty accurate.

Thought that cheering the shot on target was embarrassing. some fella near me lost his shit and was calling sam all sorts for the sub, and then refused to cheer when he scored, which was funny.

Thats about all i have to say cause utter shite covers the rest.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on January 21, 2018, 12:43:56 AM
We've played shite before but then we had shite players so we understood. I remember the dark days under Walter Smith when we played about 8 defenders at home and no-one was moaning in the alehouse after the game like they do now.
We expect more because the quality is there. Maybe the commitment isn't though and that might be a combination of the modern day footballer as well as how they're managed. 
well put...funny old times
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: therealdunc on January 21, 2018, 12:50:09 AM
West Brom came with a game plan to spoil the game, it would have been tough for any team today.

Niasse proving the doubters including me to be wrong.

Vlasic clearly not a winger on todayís performance
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: bluenuck on January 21, 2018, 12:56:21 AM
They had 15 shots. West Brom came to Goodison under Alan Pardew and had 15 shots at goal and some think we're not in trouble.

Kenny is 19 and learning on the job. Martina isn't good enough even at right back. Holgate is 20? And learning on the job. Williams/jags past it. Schneiderlin doesn't give a fuck.

Don't know how it's got to this...

Trying not to be dramatic. But this season has this erie beginning of the end feel to it.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 21, 2018, 12:58:00 AM
West Brom came with a game plan to spoil the game, it would have been tough for any team today.



you are a bad wum.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: therealdunc on January 21, 2018, 12:58:46 AM
Kenny is 19 and learning on the job. Martina isn't good enough even at right back. Holgate is 20? And learning on the job. Williams/jags past it. Schneiderlin doesn't give a fuck.

Don't know how it's got to this...

Trying not to be dramatic. But this season has this erie beginning of the end feel to it.

Correct

The team is not good enough

But some of our fans want to put their head in the sand, look at their match attack cards and believe they are superstars.

We have some genuine dross, and some genuine past it rubbish like Jags, Williams and Rooney.

The longer we refuse to be honest and truthful , the longer the season will drag on
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: therealdunc on January 21, 2018, 01:01:38 AM
you are a bad wum.
Do you go the game?

See it for yourself , not what the tv editor wants to show you
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 21, 2018, 01:02:45 AM
Do you go the game?

See it for yourself , not what the tv editor wants to show you

See....bad bad bad wum.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 21, 2018, 01:03:55 AM


Correct

The team is not good enough

But some of our fans want to put their head in the sand, look at their match attack cards and believe they are superstars.

We have some genuine dross, and some genuine past it rubbish like Jags, Williams and Rooney.

The longer we refuse to be honest and truthful , the longer the season will drag on

Of them three only one played today
And we were shite
Rooney provided the only real moment of threat and we scored.

I've never known a wum last as long as you on here, your firing bro
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on January 21, 2018, 01:37:12 AM
Correct

The team is not good enough

But some of our fans want to put their head in the sand, look at their match attack cards and believe they are superstars.

We have some genuine dross, and some genuine past it rubbish like Jags, Williams and Rooney.

The longer we refuse to be honest and truthful , the longer the season will drag on
Correct

The team is not good enough

But some of our fans want to put their head in the sand, look at their match attack cards and believe they are superstars.

We have some genuine dross, and some genuine past it rubbish like Jags, Williams and Rooney.

The longer we refuse to be honest and truthful , the longer the season will drag on
Right in a way but feel sorry for Jags he was real quality but should have been able to fade away with dignity, unfortunately the steering has been shit for some time and we are left with a mess o beans....
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Paddockoldie on January 21, 2018, 02:11:56 AM
Allardyce talks about doing the basics. I would strongly suggest he includes passing in that because for professional players to misplace so many passes is shocking.
As for the bigger picture I just want us to get safe and then we plan for next season without Sam and Walsh who I am struggling to think what he's actually done for us and seems to be living off Drogba and Leicester. We need a decent manager who has vision and a proper game strategy. Get rid of the dead wood including the French shithouse, Williams and Martina who steals money from this club every week but has been hung out to dry in fairness because he's awful. Sam talks about our history and then serves up that!!! Taking the piss la.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Simon Paul on January 21, 2018, 02:13:36 AM
oh, and what in the name of jesus was going on in the Park End in the first half?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Paddockoldie on January 21, 2018, 02:16:28 AM
oh, and what in the name of jesus was going on in the Park End in the first half?

Probably, like Jesus they were waiting for a cross.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Bally on January 21, 2018, 02:18:19 AM
Not his fault Everton were desperate to give him a job is it?
Well thats a new slant on it... Fuck sake

He's not doing his fucking job though is he and yes it's his fault that the set up and the tactics are all fucking wrong
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: SANA_DR0 on January 21, 2018, 02:22:42 AM
firstly, wish McCarthy makes a speedy recovery, great saving tackle wish the football gods be kind to him.

secondly, the atmosphere today was amazing.. from around the middle of the first half until McCarthy got injured, it was like the crowd where trolling Everton (certain players and achievements kennys shot, first shot on target in around 5 games or so! the sarcasm was amazing.. especially when Cenk came off,, those boo's where for SA, we needed 2 strikers up top, everyone could see that)

cant believe Garbutt or a left footed player didnt play left back..
Schneiderlin is a fucking joke.. he literally made everyone laugh all the time.

we could have a great team with hte players we have, but we cant have that with anti football managers.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 21, 2018, 02:23:10 AM
oh, and what in the name of jesus was going on in the Park End in the first half?
It was like we were waiting to take off

The sound system was just blaring out noise
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Simon Paul on January 21, 2018, 02:23:51 AM
It was like we were waiting to take off

The sound system was just blaring out noise

it sounded like the tide had come in way too far!

did it go a bit nuts blaring out chants as well?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 21, 2018, 02:35:08 AM
it sounded like the tide had come in way too far!

did it go a bit nuts blaring out chants as well?
Everyone was asking the stewards to turn it off.
It was just that sound when like when a TV couldn't get a signal years ago but full blast.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on January 21, 2018, 03:01:53 AM
firstly, wish McCarthy makes a speedy recovery, great saving tackle wish the football gods be kind to him.

secondly, the atmosphere today was amazing.. from around the middle of the first half until McCarthy got injured, it was like the crowd where trolling Everton (certain players and achievements kennys shot, first shot on target in around 5 games or so! the sarcasm was amazing.. especially when Cenk came off,, those boo's where for SA, we needed 2 strikers up top, everyone could see that)

cant believe Garbutt or a left footed player didnt play left back..
Schneiderlin is a fucking joke.. he literally made everyone laugh all the time.

we could have a great team with hte players we have, but we cant have that with anti football managers.
Schneiderlin is a cheese eating surrender monkey.....top buying
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on January 21, 2018, 03:04:30 AM
Well thats a new slant on it... Fuck sake

He's not doing his fucking job though is he and yes it's his fault that the set up and the tactics are all fucking wrong


This is nothing different to the brand of football Allardyce has served up for years, Blackburn, Newcastle, West Ham, Sunderland. You know what your getting with Allardyce, dour as fuck who will keep you up.

When Moshiri/Kenwright were desperate to get him on board they knew exactly what they were getting.

Find it astounding how much those on the board get away with it.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Shogun on January 21, 2018, 03:09:42 AM
Pissing myself at the crowd today like.

Doubt it was helpful but it was just peak Goodison.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Alanvideo on January 21, 2018, 03:12:28 AM
Where I sit in MS3 everybody is an STH but today I was surrounded by strangers . I think a lot of regulars have sacked off this season and I can't blame them. Blame Sam all you like but if the players can't do the basics any manager would struggle. Kirkdale station was packed with Blues afterwards but eerily silent.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Faceatthefence on January 21, 2018, 03:17:23 AM
Where I sit in MS3 everybody is an STH but today I was surrounded by strangers . I think a lot of regulars have sacked off this season and I can't blame them. Blame Sam all you like but if the players can't do the basics any manager would struggle. Kirkdale station was packed with Blues afterwards but eerily silent.
Sides littered with bottlers,young players that are overrated at their stage of development  and has beens that clearly havent got the stomach for it.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sirblue57 on January 21, 2018, 03:37:37 AM
Sides littered with bottlers,young players that are overrated at their stage of development  and has beens that clearly havent got the stomach for it.
Fuck off with the comments about the young players, they need the experienced pros to stand up and show them how its done. That has not been happening.
The whole club from top to bottom is a disgrace. No.leadership anywhere. So don't blame the younger players. They need leadership.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Faceatthefence on January 21, 2018, 03:41:48 AM
Fuck off with the comments about the young players, they need the experienced pros to stand up and show them how its done. That has not been happening.
The whole club from top to bottom is a disgrace. No.leadership anywhere. So don't blame the younger players. They need leadership.
They need the bench instead of the poison thats around them,that teaches em jack except to shrink into their boots.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sirblue57 on January 21, 2018, 04:09:29 AM
They need the bench instead of the poison thats around them,that teaches em jack except to shrink into their boots.
And if we.put them on the bench,who the absolute fuck do we out on the pitch?
The experienced.pros? Who have stunk the place out and shown how to be both gutless and useless?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: bacon sarnie on January 21, 2018, 04:28:21 AM
Saved myself grief by not watching it. Life's too fuckin short like.

Best wishes for a quick recovery for McCarthy. Horrible injury. Like Oumar at least he was giving it a go.

Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Faceatthefence on January 21, 2018, 04:38:41 AM
And if we.put them on the bench,who the absolute fuck do we out on the pitch?
The experienced.pros? Who have stunk the place out and shown how to be both gutless and useless?
You protect your future assets in any business,listen weekly to the booooing  and sniping...not good for developing  kids.Ask yourself whats happened to Davies,probably the next sensation fucked over just like Barkley.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: sirblue57 on January 21, 2018, 05:05:58 AM
You protect your future assets in any business,listen weekly to the booooing  and sniping...not good for developing  kids.Ask yourself whats happened to Davies,probably the next sensation fucked over just like Barkley.
Again...who do we replace them with?
Just go out with 8 or 9 players? Fuck.me some people on here need a reality check.
The reason we are playing the youth team is because the previous manager fucked up, the DoF, fucked up....we have to play them.because they are all we have or the best option, now does that scare You? Because it does me, we need leadership and experience I agree, but that's down to the manager, DoF and the board to sort....i.e.  we're fucked.
Title: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Confucius on January 21, 2018, 06:05:59 AM
We can spend as much money as we want on all the quality that we can get and we won't finish much better than 10th with The Fraud. He doesn't allow anybody with quality to shine through.  It's all percentages. Soul destroying, boring shit. It's doesn't matter if you spend 5M or 35M, he expects the same job from the player.

Every game is an absolute chore. I really don't blame the West Ham fans anymore for calling it the West Ham way. This isn't the Everton way. I can't see myself looking forward to most of the games we play this season while our joke of a manger is in charge. What an absolute fallacy that man is.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Cozzie on January 21, 2018, 06:33:37 AM
We can spend as much money as we want on all the quality that we can get and we won't finish much better than 10th with The Fraud. He doesn't allow anybody with quality to shine through.  It's all percentages. Soul destroying, boring shit. It's doesn't matter if you spend 5M or 35M, he expects the same job from the player.

Every game is an absolute chore. I really don't blame the West Ham fans anymore for calling it the West Ham way. This isn't the Everton way. I can't see myself looking forward to most of the games we play this season while our joke of a manger is in charge. What an absolute fallacy that man is.

Yet you have him as your avatar Con 😂
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Confucius on January 21, 2018, 06:48:09 AM
Yet you have him as your avatar Con

Read the caption mate
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jamokachi on January 21, 2018, 07:47:56 AM
And how exactly did you come to this conclusion?

Because I've seen the majority of these players play far, far better than they are. For either Everton, or other clubs. It's not rocket science.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Alanvideo on January 21, 2018, 02:37:15 PM
As if suffering that game yesterday wasn't bad enough ,it got worse for some people as the kopite traffic wardens were out in force. At least 6 people got tickets outside the bingo opposite the Carisbrooke and loads more in the streets round there. Be warned.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: TheTone on January 21, 2018, 04:19:51 PM
How did big Tosun do yesterday? i've not read much about his performance
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Escla on January 21, 2018, 04:23:36 PM
As if suffering that game yesterday wasn't bad enough ,it got worse for some people as the kopite traffic wardens were out in force. At least 6 people got tickets outside the bingo opposite the Carisbrooke and loads more in the streets round there. Be warned.

Even worse, saw paramedics giving heart compressions to some poor soul lying on the pavement next to the Lime street bus, was obviously in the que when he had a heart attack, we were already on the bus but the bus couldnít pull away so compressions were going on a full 8- 10 minutes before we pulled away and they were still going on.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jamokachi on January 21, 2018, 04:25:04 PM
How did big Tosun do yesterday? i've not read much about his performance

Isolated as fuck.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: UnsyisaRhino on January 21, 2018, 04:26:04 PM
How did big Tosun do yesterday? i've not read much about his performance

Put himself about, injured Evans, tried hard to link up but without much success.

Put one great ball in to the box in the first half but ultimately he was starved of service.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Lxxx on January 21, 2018, 05:27:25 PM
Watching the game yesterday, and i know this will probably be an unpopular statement, but Iím not sure it isnít Sig thatís a large part of the problem of know.

I watched him closely and for a number 10 he doesnít get close to the striker, or the opposition box, anywhere near as often as he should in that position.
It feels like we play with a midfield three and a striker a lot of the time which means it looks disjointed. Even when heís playing off the left he doesnít take up positions that hurt the opposition, heís often a Mirallas-lite, making runs across the defence.

Iím not sure what the answer is but for £45m I want him affecting the play a lot more.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 21, 2018, 05:32:09 PM
Watching the game yesterday, and i know this will probably be an unpopular statement, but I'm not sure it isn't Sig that isn't a large part of the problem of know.

I watched him closely and for a number 10 he doesn't get close to the striker, or the opposition box, anywhere near as often as he should in that position.
It feels like we play with a midfield three and a striker a lot of the time which means it looks disjointed. Even when he's playing off the left he doesn't take up positions that hurt the opposition, he's often a Mirallas-lite, making runs across the defence.

I'm not sure what the answer is but for £45m I want him affecting the play a lot more.
I don't think he is a no ten tbh
He works tirelessly and would be decent in a three mf
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: UnsyisaRhino on January 21, 2018, 06:01:54 PM
Watching the game yesterday, and i know this will probably be an unpopular statement, but I’m not sure it isn’t Sig that isn’t a large part of the problem of know.

I watched him closely and for a number 10 he doesn’t get close to the striker, or the opposition box, anywhere near as often as he should in that position.

It feels like we play with a midfield three and a striker a lot of the time which means it looks disjointed. Even when he’s playing off the left he doesn’t take up positions that hurt the opposition, he’s often a Mirallas-lite, making runs across the defence.

I’m not sure what the answer is but for £45m I want him affecting the play a lot more.

I think he was frustrated and dropped deeper to try and effect the play. This was caused by two holding midfielders who didnt show, or move, or take any responsibility for influencing the game at all when we had possesion.

Although i dont think anything worked fot him yesterday.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ridge on January 21, 2018, 06:57:09 PM
I wonder with Sig, whether we could put him in defensive midfield instead of Schneiderlin. He plays deep when playing for Iceland and can still contribute much of what he already does going forward with set pieces, some late runs into box and some long range shots. We often end up complaining about how little our defensive midfielders create. I would worry about him changing from chasing with freedom, to needing to hold positions and cover others, but I suspect he could be quite capable of it. He always seems a smart, very disciplined player and has a lot of stamina.

He's a grafter out of possession, but doesn't tend to win the ball back that often, but leave that the Gana. He's not often far enough forward to cut back and cross from left wing. He's not good enough to warrant the central number 10 role he had at Swansea. But he is a utility type player, where he doesn't really excel in any position, wherever he plays doesn't seem to limit him that much in terms of contribution.
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Ravardo on January 21, 2018, 07:04:56 PM
Pretty much what i said about him yesterday but what will you then do with rooney?
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 21, 2018, 11:59:33 PM
I wonder with Sig, whether we could put him in defensive midfield instead of Schneiderlin. He plays deep when playing for Iceland and can still contribute much of what he already does going forward with set pieces, some late runs into box and some long range shots. We often end up complaining about how little our defensive midfielders create. I would worry about him changing from chasing with freedom, to needing to hold positions and cover others, but I suspect he could be quite capable of it. He always seems a smart, very disciplined player and has a lot of stamina.

He's a grafter out of possession, but doesn't tend to win the ball back that often, but leave that the Gana. He's not often far enough forward to cut back and cross from left wing. He's not good enough to warrant the central number 10 role he had at Swansea. But he is a utility type player, where he doesn't really excel in any position, wherever he plays doesn't seem to limit him that much in terms of contribution.

He spends that much time covering at the minute we may just as well play him left back and just put him on free kicks . Young and Valencia cope with the job . Or maybe not .
Title: Re: Everton v West Brom
Post by: brap2 on January 22, 2018, 12:26:17 AM
How did big Tosun do yesterday? i've not read much about his performance

Struggled tbh, ball nowhere near him for most of the game, looks like thereís no understanding yet which is fair enough l and got the hook for niasse which was roundly booed.