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November 14, 2017, 03:55:22 AM
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Martip


And he had a settled team and defence in front of him. Give Pickford a chance.
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November 14, 2017, 04:54:27 AM
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All we are saying...is give Picks a chance.

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November 14, 2017, 05:01:42 AM
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GrantyBoy78


How had this thread descended into people questioning his quality? Hes literally the best (and arguably the only) good thing associated with the playing side of this club at the moment.


November 14, 2017, 05:06:41 AM
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How had this thread descended into people questioning his quality? Hes literally the best (and arguably the only) good thing associated with the playing side of this club at the moment.
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November 14, 2017, 05:09:01 AM
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Youth players are absolved of the shite they're trying to rescue.

November 14, 2017, 05:35:34 AM
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Youth players are absolved of the shite they're trying to rescue.
Why tho
If your in the first team, age shouldn't matter.
We've had posters galore on here saying play the kids they will do better, we can't now say play the kids, if we go down tho it's not their fault


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November 14, 2017, 05:47:24 AM
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Why tho
If your in the first team, age shouldn't matter.
We've had posters galore on here saying play the kids they will do better, we can't now say play the kids, if we go down tho it's not their fault
Because we have alleged seasoned pro's in each of the positions they are being asked to fill despite poor management and their own inexperience.
So imho ...they are being thrown in at the deep end and asked to do to much under a manager with as little experience as they have in the league ....so to blame them is irresponsible .

November 14, 2017, 05:50:53 AM
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Because we have alleged seasoned pro's in each of the positions they are being asked to fill despite poor management and their own inexperience.
So imho ...they are being thrown in at the deep end and asked to do to much under a manager with as little experience as they have in the league ....so to blame them is irresponsible .
There's been plenty saying these young lads will do better than the seasoned pros. You can't have it both ways

The you isn't aimed at you directly BTW


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November 14, 2017, 05:55:50 AM
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There's been plenty saying these young lads will do better than the seasoned pros. You can't have it both ways

The you isn't aimed at you directly BTW
I know it's not aimed at me mate .
To be fair on the whole the youngsters have done great under the circumstances aside a couple of mistakes. ..but tbh I still don't think we will go down .
It would also be nice to see the veteran's... Jags Baines Rooney  etc of the team take some of the responsibility and rally the troops as it were .

November 14, 2017, 04:46:22 PM
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The younger players number more than the experienced pros at the minute. Where we are is as much down to them as the older ones who are past it/under-performing. Not a blame game, just a fact.

November 15, 2017, 07:17:03 PM
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The younger players number more than the experienced pros at the minute. Where we are is as much down to them as the older ones who are past it/under-performing. Not a blame game, just a fact.

Isn't that part of the problem though? The only old head who isn't fairly new and playing most games is Baines. It's well and good having lots of 'leaders' like Rooney but with them not settled themselves they can't be much of a guiding influence to the raft of interchanging youngsters. And when Williams kept starting, presumably as one of the 'wise old heads' and made a major fuck up nearly every game..


November 15, 2017, 07:19:55 PM
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There's been plenty saying these young lads will do better than the seasoned pros. You can't have it both ways

The you isn't aimed at you directly BTW

Maybe you can be a bit easier on the youngsters though, it's not their fault that the seasoned pros failed to cut the mustard. Slate the pros, but maybe just tut-tut over the youngsters.

November 16, 2017, 07:05:11 PM
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Not questioning his potential more some of his performances . Settled defence helps every keeper I suppose but for me he makes some poor choices and players don't always overcome their instinct .

November 16, 2017, 07:22:22 PM
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1st 3 maybe ? They are miles ahead !

Yes, those first three are undoubtedly currently better keepers than Pickford.

However, when it comes to assessing how good our purchase is (accepting that he is only 23) it's important to look at his performance relative to the best keepers when they were new. Of those three, De Gea was pretty shaky to start with, before improving behind a good defence to become the best in the league. Lloris was all over the place, and in and out of the Spurs team for a fair while before stepping up a gear (his improvement which occurred at the same time as Spurs defence improved drastically). Courtois was outstanding in his first season, although he did come in from a brilliant season at a top team the year before, and into a dominant Chelsea team with a great defence. His second season he was at times terrible.

Now Jordan hasn't been perfect by any stretch. But he has made game changing saves. He has shown several characteristics that you cannot teach a keeper. Given his age, and the constant pressure he is under in our current team, he will be learning and should hopefully overcome his current deficiencies.

Ultimately the keeper isn't the position that wins us the game. The rest of the team has to get into a position. Where a brilliant save means 1-0 or 2-1 or 3-2. So far, in most games, we've been needing him to prevent us going several goals behind, and he's done fairly well as a one man defence, in the toughest league in the world, against some of the best teams in football. For a young lad new to a club with a shit defence, like.  ;D

November 16, 2017, 09:21:33 PM
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Because we have alleged seasoned pro's in each of the positions they are being asked to fill despite poor management and their own inexperience.
So imho ...they are being thrown in at the deep end and asked to do to much under a manager with as little experience as they have in the league ....so to blame them is irresponsible .
So on that basis we can't blame Unsy either really .It would be nice to leave them all alone .