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Title: Bolasie
Post by: Toffee1 on June 13, 2018, 08:01:03 PM
https://turkish-football.com/everton-hold-talks-with-turkish-giants-fenerbahce-after-receiving-offer-for-yannick-bolasie/
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: kramer0 on June 13, 2018, 08:17:01 PM
Turkey: The New Sunderland
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: tisonlyjk on June 13, 2018, 08:30:19 PM
Loan deal? No thanks
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: TheTone on June 13, 2018, 09:12:41 PM
The vulture funds of football pounce again
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: SteB on June 13, 2018, 09:38:56 PM
Turkey: The New Sunderland

Tickled me that...
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: sam of the south on June 13, 2018, 10:09:27 PM
Turkish clubs and ‘loan moves with a view to buy’ should not even be entertained
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: dunkster on June 13, 2018, 10:20:54 PM
I keep reading on those that Everton want loan deals instead. Klaasen and Bolasie
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Bluedylan on June 13, 2018, 10:33:13 PM
I keep reading on those that Everton want loan deals instead. Klaasen and Bolasie

Dude, you need to stop reading stuff, because you don't appear to have the ability to decode it, or read between the lines.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: dunkster on June 13, 2018, 10:41:11 PM
Dude, you need to stop reading stuff, because you don't appear to have the ability to decode it, or read between the lines.

True. I'll stop reading anything and let you tell me whats going on.
What makes you think I believe All I read??
All I said is that their reports on klaasen and Bolasie is that we APPARENTLY are seeking loans.
Believe it or don't believe it.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: blue slug on June 13, 2018, 10:55:01 PM
fuck loan deals with Turkish clubs
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: van der Meyde on June 14, 2018, 01:08:18 AM
Is there a "creative accounting" benefit from sending players like that out on loan? As in selling them when their book values has reduced due to amortisation, so the trading loss isn't as great?

I can't be arsed working out the numbers.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Paddockoldie on June 14, 2018, 01:15:40 AM
Cash ONLY for BOLASIE. Klassen I'd consider a loan but at the end of the day is it to give him game time in the hope he improves, which is a gamble as Turkish football isn't the prem? If we intend to move him on then SELL him. I still think he's decent but was never going to fit in with negative game plans because he's not built for it.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2018, 01:39:55 AM
True. I'll stop reading anything and let you tell me whats going on.
What makes you think I believe All I read??
All I said is that their reports on klaasen and Bolasie is that we APPARENTLY are seeking loans.
Believe it or don't believe it.

Just stop being such a stresshead.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: brap2 on June 14, 2018, 01:41:32 AM
The good thing is if we sell Bolasie we can almost entirely reduce our team down to walking pace.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Silas on June 14, 2018, 01:48:35 AM
The good thing is if we sell Bolasie we can almost entirely reduce our team down to walking pace.

Walking football champions 2018
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Topper on June 14, 2018, 02:27:21 AM
Signing Tosun was the deal of the century to raise our profile in Turkey and make them aware we have a lot of deadwood to get rid of. Clear masterstroke by messrs  Walsh and Allardyce, always thinking ahead for the benefit of our club  :whistle:
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Goaljira on June 14, 2018, 03:33:26 AM
Is there a "creative accounting" benefit from sending players like that out on loan? As in selling them when their book values has reduced due to amortisation, so the trading loss isn't as great?

I can't be arsed working out the numbers.

I was trying to work that out the other day when the Klaassen links came about.

Klaassens book value this summer would be £18m.  It'd be a pretty heavy hit to the FFP allowance if we only got say £12m for him, but loaning him for 2 years his value would only be £6m and we'd either break even selling him cheap, or even make a profit if he does okay?  This is all on paper for FFP reasons though because in reality we'd be losing more money that if we sold him now, and thats what i don't understand about FFP that in order to protect clubs from doing a Leeds the new rules make it more complicated to not lose money than to lose it?

Bolasie's book value on the other hand should only be about £10m this year, and i'd be amazed if we couldnt sell him for that?
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: GLewis on June 14, 2018, 03:38:15 AM
Is there a "creative accounting" benefit from sending players like that out on loan? As in selling them when their book values has reduced due to amortisation, so the trading loss isn't as great?

I can't be arsed working out the numbers.

Yeah there would be from a FFP point if view, providing you got the same fee in 1 or 2 years time.

In the real world the cash figure is still the most important bit.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: van der Meyde on June 14, 2018, 04:07:04 AM
Yeah there would be from a FFP point if view, providing you got the same fee in 1 or 2 years time.

In the real world the cash figure is still the most important bit.
Because that's the actual revenue/cash flow, which is presumably the be all and end all?

Does any profit on the book value get classed as revenue in addition to that? I'm assuming not?
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: GLewis on June 14, 2018, 04:16:01 AM
Because that's the actual revenue/cash flow, which is presumably the be all and end all?

Does any profit on the book value get classed as revenue in addition to that? I'm assuming not?

Yeah revenue figure is the gross cash income amount.

Profit is that less the carrying value of the individual player.

So Klaassen now would be worth £20m carrying value (rough figures of £25m/5 year deal) so anything less than that (say 15m) would result in a loss on the trade.

Keeping him for 2 years and selling for 15m would see a further 10m depreciation (so carrying value of £10m) so we’d see a profIt of £5m.

Obviously there’d be wage cost impacts too. 
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: dunkster on June 14, 2018, 04:47:50 AM
Just stop being such a stresshead.

How am I stress head?
I merely said parts I've read, it doesn't mean I believe them, I don't pretend it's just my opinion or that Its factual knowledge. You come out with shit like ' I gotta stop reading stuff cos I don't have the ability to decode stuff and read between the lines etc. Like I'm some sort of ten year old school kid.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Macca77 on June 14, 2018, 04:57:38 AM
To quote Randolph and Mortimer Duke "sell sell sell!"
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2018, 04:58:50 AM
How am I stress head?
I merely said parts I've read, it doesn't mean I believe them, I don't pretend it's just my opinion or that Its factual knowledge. You come out with shit like ' I gotta stop reading stuff cos I don't have the ability to decode stuff and read between the lines etc. Like I'm some sort of ten year old school kid.


That's quite a stressy response to be fair.

All I'm saying is that you're one of the only people on the site going on about 'we've got to sell to buy' stuff and that's clearly not the case. Chill out. Brands and Co have got it, and if they fuck up or there's some evidence that we're operating like that, we'll all criticise them together.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 11, 2018, 05:55:58 PM
Fener are currently in talks with the Blues but are determined to wrap up a deal for the player.

The former Crystal Palace star returned from a nasty knee injury last season but failed to find consistency in his 17 appearances under former boss Sam Allardyce.

The Turkish side are keen to wrap up several deals before the start of their Champions League play-off campaign, and new manager Phillip Cocu - who worked with Everton director of football Marcel Brands at PSV - looks keen on Bolasie.

A Spor believe former Besiktas forward Cenk Tosun has offered the 29-year-old advice on moving to his home country and has encouraged the move.

Fenerbahce are reportedly keen on a season-long loan deal.

Turkish outlet Takvim - via Sport Witness - believe Fenerbahce have upped their offer for Yannick Bolasie.

The Yellow Canaries were initially claimed to have offered the Blues £1.5m to take the winger on loan for the season, but the source now believes they’ve doubled their opening gambit.

Manager Phillip Cocu is said to be keen to work with Bolasie and former Liverpool sporting director Damien Comolli - who now operates in the same role for Fenerbahce - is leading negotiations with the Toffees.

The Turkish outfit are said to be keen on having a clause inserted into the deal which would allow them to retain Bolasie’s services on a permanent basis should he impress.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Macca77 on July 11, 2018, 06:11:44 PM
3 million for a season long loan, wonder if he needs any help packing
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: brap2 on July 11, 2018, 06:18:16 PM
What a terrible fucking purchase in the light of day that was
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: blargins on July 11, 2018, 06:19:17 PM
3 mill for the season and all wages paid would be sufficient I think. We're going to lose money on him, so if he picks up some form (which he should in an inferior league), we might be able to get 10 mill at the end of the day.

Shame it didn't work out, but he was never what we needed in the first place.

Great smile and attitude though.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Bluenose 91 on July 11, 2018, 06:19:26 PM
Feel sorry for him with the timing of the injury and that but yeah probably best he moves on.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: TheRam on July 11, 2018, 06:23:59 PM
What a terrible fucking purchase in the light of day that was

I was fuming with this deal from day one.

Do think he could’ve been useful before the injury but even then he was never that good.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: brap2 on July 11, 2018, 06:34:13 PM
I was fuming with this deal from day one.

Do think he could’ve been useful before the injury but even then he was never that good.

Yeah I’ve actually always liked him as an exciting player who can get you off your feet, and (as long as his knee isn’t goosed) he could still do the job of an outlet on the break.

But when you take everything into account, it was money we should have spent elsewhere on someone younger with a higher ceiling and a better sell on value, clearly previous regimes were not interested in that at all.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Lxxx on July 11, 2018, 06:36:15 PM
We'll be lucky to get any kind of fee for him in another 12 months. I'll be surprised if they take up any clause as I can't see him actually doing much with his career from here on in. He wasn't great at his best and he's completely ineffective most of the time. Bonkers signing.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: blargins on July 11, 2018, 06:42:39 PM
We'll be lucky to get any kind of fee for him in another 12 months. I'll be surprised if they take up any clause as I can't see him actually doing much with his career from here on in. He wasn't great at his best and he's completely ineffective most of the time. Bonkers signing.

You can't see him doing well in Turkey? Think he'll have a better chance of form there than here.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on July 11, 2018, 06:43:10 PM
Don’t particularly rate him but there are others I’d rather see leave first.

£3m would barely cover our contribution to Koeman’s wages. Lack of depth out wide starts putting a lot of pressure on Vlasic and Lookman to contribute...and Brands to deliver a winger good enough to start.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Lxxx on July 11, 2018, 06:49:34 PM
You can't see him doing well in Turkey? Think he'll have a better chance of form there than here.

I don't disagree he'll probably do better in an inferior league but as a player I just don't see what he offers anymore. His pace seemed to have gone last season, his ability/confidence to take a player on had disappeared and he slowed the game down to walking pace when he got it, before cutting back onto his right foot to whip balls in once everyone had got set.

Think we'll have to take a very big hit on him.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 11, 2018, 06:51:12 PM
Awful signing at the time
Be decent player if he didn't try to piss ball around and do that trick that everyone sees coming
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Ramjam on July 11, 2018, 06:54:44 PM
Awful signing at the time
Be decent player if he didn't try to piss ball around and do that trick that everyone sees coming
Stevie Wonder would see that trick coming
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Bluedylan on July 11, 2018, 06:58:12 PM
We're gonna have to take hits of a number of players, financially, if we're going to move them on.

People have complained that we haven't moved people on, and people have complained that we're losing out financially in moving some people on. Brands has to make hard-nosed decisions, and minimise the damage of the previous regime (not sure anything Steve Walsh was involved with could be legitimately described as a 'regime').

Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on July 11, 2018, 07:04:55 PM
Whether he’s actually lost his pace or was just psychologically scarred from his injury and didn’t have the confidence in his knee, who knows. I still don’t see the point in shipping him out unless there is a tangible, financial benefit in doing so.

Still think he might offer something in Marco’s preferred 433 where he doesn’t spend the majority of his time in the fullback position and can concentrate his game in the opposition third.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: blargins on July 11, 2018, 07:08:23 PM
I don't disagree he'll probably do better in an inferior league but as a player I just don't see what he offers anymore. His pace seemed to have gone last season, his ability/confidence to take a player on had disappeared and he slowed the game down to walking pace when he got it, before cutting back onto his right foot to whip balls in once everyone had got set.

Think we'll have to take a very big hit on him.

I agree, we'll take a big hit on him. I think that was certain the moment he had his injury.

However, 3 mill and him off the wage bill is something, and as I say, he'll have a better chance to impress in a lesser league which may help us get 10 mill for him or so, next summer.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: kramer0 on July 11, 2018, 07:24:41 PM
I feel for him. He worked hard to scrap his way up to the top from the Maltese league and English lower leagues and picked up a bad injury in what was probably the best moment of his career, using his pace and power to bother fullbacks and creating about one good chance per match Lukaku.

It was a poor deal for us, though. His best was never enough to justify the price tag and we bought him at an age where wide players tend to decline physically and lose some of their effectiveness (injuries aside).

It’s no fault of Bolasie’s that he was the wrong player for us. I wish him the best wherever he goes.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 20, 2018, 07:49:36 PM
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/middlesbrough-everton-yannick-bolasie-loan-15051085
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Alanvideo on August 20, 2018, 07:51:31 PM
Just been on SSN  he's in talks with Tony de Pulis.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Macca77 on August 21, 2018, 09:54:38 PM
Looking like he's off to Villa, brummies are made up
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Gary1878 on August 21, 2018, 10:33:38 PM
We bought him because he was a fast, match winning player at his best. His injury mean't he lost that burst of electric pace that made him so effective. He now needs to reinvent himself as a player wherever he ends up. Whether he has the technical ability and tactical awareness however to convert himself into something different, I'm not sure.

Wish him all the best.


Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: blueski on August 21, 2018, 10:45:08 PM
theres no telling whether or not he can with time recapture his pre-injury form - it was a horiffic injury and complicated surgery by all accounts

I will always remember his big grin the day he made his return to football - it was inspirational
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Mouse on August 21, 2018, 11:19:24 PM
He seems a nice guy and I wish him every success. He's worked hard to get where he is and again to recover from that injury.

If he goes it will be with the sanction of Silva and Brands so I'm not in the least worried. Of course we will lose money on him, we over-paid and he suffered a near career ending injury. I don't think our priority is getting our money back, our priority is squad numbers and wages.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: everton1952 on August 21, 2018, 11:30:30 PM
Well done Brands! Only maybe Sandro left to get shut of and that will be all the dead losses sent on their way.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Morta75 on August 21, 2018, 11:35:41 PM
Hope it's a straight u psale and not loan move... anybody knows?
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: D15TIN on August 21, 2018, 11:41:53 PM
He's better than championship level in fairness, little surprised nobody in the PL fancied him - surely a Newcastle/brighton/Huddersfield mustve been interested
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: SANA_DR0 on August 22, 2018, 12:03:17 AM
He's better than championship level in fairness, little surprised nobody in the PL fancied him - surely a Newcastle/brighton/Huddersfield mustve been interested

 I guess no one wanted to pay his 70k a week wages or he didnt want to drop his wages..
also he doesnt produce much (didnt produce much for Palace either)

i think he's found his level. good luck to him tho. wish he doesnt get clobbered too much.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: blargins on August 22, 2018, 12:07:07 AM
So which club is getting him? Is it Boro?
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Cereal Killer on August 22, 2018, 12:11:57 AM
So which club is getting him? Is it Boro?

Villa, Boro still want Besic
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: D15TIN on August 22, 2018, 12:14:53 AM
So which club is getting him? Is it Boro?
he travelled to villa today I think, I'd choose them over boro like, much the bigger club
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: blargins on August 22, 2018, 12:18:35 AM
Hope he goes to Villa. I can take piss out of my mate then.

Well, for more reasons other than the obvious. Supporting Villa, having Steve Bruce as manager (although he acknowledges that one) etc.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: brap2 on August 22, 2018, 01:25:19 AM
I like him. Will be a joy to watch at champs level.

Would rather he went to boro as a traore replacement as they have the system
waiting for him, but yeah villa are still a big club and I quite like Steve Bruce.

Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Bob Sacamano on August 22, 2018, 03:29:00 AM
£28m for him was a proper bananas transfer. Imagine blowing the dust off the fax machine after Stevie Walsh sends over a telecommunication, because he doesn’t trust that internets the kids are using, and seeing “£28m” and the word Zaha not following it.

I’d be laughing my fucking knob off. Nice one Steve 👍
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: eugene on August 22, 2018, 03:43:12 AM
I like him. Will be a joy to watch at champs level.

Would rather he went to boro as a traore replacement as they have the system
waiting for him, but yeah villa are still a big club and I quite like Steve Bruce.
Don’t mind Steve Bruce tbh just his fucking nose that winds me up!
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: toffee_scot on August 22, 2018, 04:45:06 AM
One of the worst incoming transfers for Everton in terms of value.
One of the best outgoing transfers for Crystal Palace in terms of value.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: brap2 on August 22, 2018, 01:48:37 PM
Yeah it was a terrible transfer in hindsight, not really any defending it other than to say it looked like he had stepped up a bit, until he crocked himself and that was that.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Lxxx on August 22, 2018, 02:12:12 PM
Villa have plenty of cash now after the takeover and are the biggest club in the division. Good move for him. He'll do well down a level.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: TheTone on August 22, 2018, 02:37:20 PM
used to prefer Steve Bruce when he was a bit fatter and had mad Steve Bruce hair, gone to fuck now like
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Mick 1995 on August 22, 2018, 02:39:55 PM
Steve Bruce in a kebab shop in full training gear is amongst my favourite things in football.

(https://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/1/photos/211000/Steve-Bruce-in-kebab-shop-797211.jpg)
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: bluenuck on August 23, 2018, 10:46:58 AM
Was seen at villa park today watching the game.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Robber Rodwell on August 23, 2018, 11:31:59 AM
Glad he is gone.  Terrible purchase on par with Klassen.  Walsh and big Ron really did a number on us.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Fynci on August 23, 2018, 12:36:50 PM
Pre-injury he provided something different and I felt was actually starting to settle. Post-injury he provided very little.

Can’t blame a player, or even those that authorised the purchase when these things happen.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Macca77 on August 23, 2018, 01:25:07 PM
Wish him the best of luck
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Hesmenos on August 23, 2018, 03:04:58 PM
Glad he is gone.  Terrible purchase on par with Klassen.  Walsh and big Ron really did a number on us.
He's not gone for good. The only way Villa will keep him is if he smashes it in the Championship and they get promoted.
I wonder if it would be better to wait for a foreign club to buy him, even on the cheap, rather than lend him to a Championship club who can't even cover all his wages.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Escla on August 23, 2018, 04:14:29 PM
He's not gone for good. The only way Villa will keep him is if he smashes it in the Championship and they get promoted.
I wonder if it would be better to wait for a foreign club to buy him, even on the cheap, rather than lend him to a Championship club who can't even cover all his wages.

Have a feeling we’re playing hardball with Villa which is why the negotiations have dragged on a bit, they have the money from their parachute payment and should be able to cover most of his wages if not all.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on August 23, 2018, 04:23:17 PM
Have a feeling we’re playing hardball with Villa which is why the negotiations have dragged on a bit, they have the money from their parachute payment and should be able to cover most of his wages if not all.

They should pay every penny and a loan fee. They are playing for 100s of millions if they get ptomoted. We shouldn't fund it for them
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: everton1952 on August 23, 2018, 05:12:30 PM
On contract with us until 2021. If Villa send him back as is likely, then we start all over again. 
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Mick 1995 on August 23, 2018, 05:30:40 PM
Echo saying Villa wont pony up for the entire wage, but deal due today.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: TheRam on August 23, 2018, 05:39:23 PM
Just get him off the books and out the squad.

Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Lxxx on August 23, 2018, 06:29:41 PM
Even if they pay a proportion of his wages a loan fee will go some way to covering the rest. He just needs to play football to retain any kind of value. Hope he does well.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: blargins on August 23, 2018, 06:59:51 PM
I like Bolasie, but not as a player. Seems a good sort.

Feel sorry for him having to play for Steve Bruce. Will probably get played at right back or something.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: brap2 on August 23, 2018, 07:52:35 PM
I like Bolasie, but not as a player. Seems a good sort.

Feel sorry for him having to play for Steve Bruce. Will probably get played at right back or something.

They were quite good to watch last night.

Mcginn is a very good CM at that level, and Grealish looks a genuine star in the champs.

Adomah and Elmohamody are both ok but Bolasie is better, and Kodja is basically the championship Lukaku so expect Bolasie to just whip them onto his head none stop.

Good move for him, good move for them!
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Cereal Killer on August 23, 2018, 08:53:12 PM
They were quite good to watch last night.

Mcginn is a very good CM at that level, and Grealish looks a genuine star in the champs.

Adomah and Elmohamody are both ok but Bolasie is better, and Kodja is basically the championship Lukaku so expect Bolasie to just whip them onto his head none stop.

Good move for him, good move for them!

I'm sure he'll thrive on the one in ten crosses that are actually decent  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: bluestevie on August 24, 2018, 03:07:53 AM
Got no ill will towards him, hope he does well, certainly doesn't deserve half the abuse he gets, not his fault that a) Walsh got mugged into paying so much and b) got injured severely  (and let's be honest here Koeman's medical team made it worse by letting him carry on after it happened)

Got a points warning on another site for calling out a bellend who posts on that sites thread on Yannick on a daily basis calling a lazy so and so because he hasn't moved yet even though he's spoken to two different clubs this week and only agreed on the Villa move last night
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Shogun on August 25, 2018, 05:07:30 PM
Officially signed for Villa in loan
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Everton Mint on August 25, 2018, 05:43:38 PM
Another bad buy out the door and off the wage bill.

Great work.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: School of Science on August 25, 2018, 05:57:19 PM
No ill will against Bolasie, just a bad buy for the price, bad injury didn't help never recovered his confidence up to yet either. But wonder how much the loan fee was and how much of his wages are we subsidising.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: blargins on August 25, 2018, 05:58:54 PM
Another dead weight gone.

Brands has done a stellar job this summer. I did not expect so many radical changes this quickly. It's incredible that the changes have been so positive and have totally undone the mess that Walsh and co made so quickly.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: gizzblue on August 25, 2018, 06:37:00 PM
Marcel Brands could sell sand to the Egyptians .

Good look to Bolasie it really wasn't meant to be .
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: plumber on August 25, 2018, 07:45:08 PM
Marcel Brands could sell sand to the Egyptians .

No, he couldn't. We shipped off 16 (!) players and got money only for 2 of them. And will be paying part of their wages
That's not Brand's fault of course, still great job.
Just shows the mess we were in.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Nicco on August 25, 2018, 08:28:46 PM
Marcel Brands could sell sand to the Egyptians .

Good look to Bolasie it really wasn't meant to be .
We have a company in my home town that sell sand to Saudi Arabia.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Macca77 on August 25, 2018, 08:30:00 PM
Marcel Brands could sell sand to the Egyptians .

Good look to Bolasie it really wasn't meant to be .

Running out of superlatives to describe the man
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on August 25, 2018, 08:34:43 PM
If they aren’t covering his entire wages at the very least then we haven’t got a good deal here. Villa have money but more than that they are playing for a place in the premier league that comes with a couple of hundred million in tv money. We shouldn’t be funding their attempt to win the lottery

Same with Besic too. Unless they’ve paid a big loan fee he absolutely shouldn’t have gone back to boro where he did well but they didn’t sign him

Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: gizzblue on August 25, 2018, 08:50:59 PM
No, he couldn't. We shipped off 16 (!) players and got money only for 2 of them. And will be paying part of their wages
That's not Brand's fault of course, still great job.
Just shows the mess we were in.

They guy found teams for our shite ...albeit mostly loans till contracts run out ....that's still genius in my book . lolol because we had some real shite.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Martip on August 25, 2018, 08:58:11 PM
Running out of superlatives to describe the man
What a job he's done so far
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: brap2 on August 26, 2018, 12:18:12 AM
What a job he's done so far

7/8 out of 10. And that’s because Richarlisoj is *that* good.

We’ve only seen one of our signings, there are reasons to doubt all of the others. anyone we’ve sold has been at a loss, and everyone else is a loan w/o obligation to buy.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: TheRam on August 26, 2018, 12:27:22 AM
If they aren’t covering his entire wages at the very least then we haven’t got a good deal here. Villa have money but more than that they are playing for a place in the premier league that comes with a couple of hundred million in tv money. We shouldn’t be funding their attempt to win the lottery

Same with Besic too. Unless they’ve paid a big loan fee he absolutely shouldn’t have gone back to boro where he did well but they didn’t sign him



You was expecting us to get a good deal?
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: blargins on August 26, 2018, 01:46:08 AM
If they aren’t covering his entire wages at the very least then we haven’t got a good deal here. Villa have money but more than that they are playing for a place in the premier league that comes with a couple of hundred million in tv money. We shouldn’t be funding their attempt to win the lottery

Same with Besic too. Unless they’ve paid a big loan fee he absolutely shouldn’t have gone back to boro where he did well but they didn’t sign him



If most of him is off our wage bill, it's a good deal.

The bad deal was made when we splurged 30 mill on him and gave him too much wages. Nothing to do with Brands.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on August 26, 2018, 02:07:56 AM
You was expecting us to get a good deal?

I think a year of bolasie is worth the 4m in wages from a relatively rich championship side who have ambitions to win promotion

Our “shite” could make a boro or a villa a couple of 100 million. I think we should be in a decent position to get a good deal

I’m not saying we haven’t. Who knows. I don’t see why villa shouldn’t pay his wages and even be committed to signing him if they win promotion.

Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Lxxx on August 26, 2018, 02:34:34 AM
I think a year of bolasie is worth the 4m in wages from a relatively rich championship side who have ambitions to win promotion

Our “shite” could make a boro or a villa a couple of 100 million. I think we should be in a decent position to get a good deal

I’m not saying we haven’t. Who knows. I don’t see why villa shouldn’t pay his wages and even be committed to signing him if they win promotion.



Do you really care that much about the finances of the club? Just trust we’re getting the best deal we can and focus on the football.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on August 26, 2018, 02:42:09 AM
Do you really care that much about the finances of the club? Just trust we’re getting the best deal we can and focus on the football.


Not overly. It just kind of comes up on a forum when discussing bolasies move
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: Lxxx on August 26, 2018, 02:55:12 AM

Not overly. It just kind of comes up on a forum when discussing bolasies move

You’re focusing on the supposed negative financial aspects of a deal none of us know anything about and moaning about us subsidising the promotion push of another side. Who cares. Just wish him well and trust our new setup.
Title: Re: Bolasie
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on August 26, 2018, 03:00:30 AM
You’re focusing on the supposed negative financial aspects of a deal none of us know anything about and moaning about us subsidising the promotion push of another side. Who cares. Just wish him well and trust our new setup.


I'm not focussing on anything negative. I don't know the details of the deal. Just giving an opinion of what would be par. We might have done better. We might have done worse. I've no clue