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Title: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on November 29, 2014, 07:53:03 AM
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Tottenham Hotspur v Everton FC
White Hart Lane
Sunday 30th November 16:00
Premier League Match #13


Tottenham - Premier League 14/15

Manchester City 4-1 Tottenham - (Eriksen)
Tottenham 1-2 Newcastle (Adebayor)
Aston Villa 1-2 Tottenham (Chadli, Kane)
Tottenham 1-2 Stoke  (Chadli)
Hull City 1-2 Tottenham (Kane, Eriksen)

Everton - Premier League 14/15

Everton 3-0 Aston Villa (Jagielka, Lukaku, Coleman)
Burnley 1-3 Everton (Eto'o x2, Lukaku)
Everton 0-0 Swansea
Sunderland 1-1 Everton (Baines Pen)
Everton 2-1 West Ham (Lukaku, Osman)

Tottenham

Tottenham's victory over Hull City was their 5th win of the season. Tottenham have now gone six premier league matches without drawing a game (W3 L3) since the 1-1 draw in the North London Derby. Tottenham have currently scored in seven matches in a row which is only bettered by Chelsea (12) & Manchester City (9). However, they've also gone five matches without keeping a clean sheet which is a run exceeded only by Crystal Palace (6) and Stoke (6). Three of Tottenham's five wins this season have come due to injury time goals (West Ham 1-0, Aston Villa 2-1, Hull 2-1).

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Interestingly, Tottenham have played at home following their European fixture for all six occasions this season with that trend set to continue at the weekend. However, they've failed to take advantage of this fortune with just 6 points from a possible 18 including defeats to three teams in the bottom half of the table. Everton have taken an unimpressive 4 points from 12 in their fixtures, though have shown improvement through the season. Everton have won their Europa League group whilst Tottenham are currently top of their group having secured qualification.

Possible Line ups

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Everton

Everton went five matches unbeaten in the Premier League with a 2-1 home win against West Ham last time out with only Chelsea (12) & Newcastle (6) currently on longer unbeaten streaks. Everton have four points less than at this stage last season yet are still only two points from 4th spot which is only one point less than at this stage last season. Everton have kept just two clean sheets in their last 21 visits to London (0-0 Crystal Palace 09/11/13 & 0-0 Arsenal 16/04/13). Only four teams have taken more points from away fixtures in the Premier League this season than Everton (9).

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There really isn't much to read from this table (but I made it anyway). Chelsea, Southampton and West Ham appear to be the biggest movers over the last couple of months whilst Newcastle were so poor for the first half of the year (16/57 points) that their rise is unnoticeable. Liverpool are falling down the yearly table whilst most other teams are where you'd expect them to be. Hull City are also stalling at the bottom but it's the three promoted teams who currently occupy the relegation places in the regular season, fortunately for Steve Bruce.

Stats & Injuries

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Tottenham Emmanuel Adebayor, Etienne Capoue, Nacer Chadli and Danny Rose are all fit to return for this match. Andros Townsend will undergo a late fitness test and Kyle Walker will miss out. Kyle Naughton is suspended.

Everton - Leighton Baines, Gareth Barry, Steven Naismith and Steven Pienaar are in contention to return to the squad following injury. James McCarthy is less likely to return after going off against Wolfsburg whilst Antolin Alcaraz, Bryan Oviedo and John Stones continue their recovery. Darron Gibson is also doubtful.

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Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 29, 2014, 08:02:47 AM
I think Baines will make it, but i don't think Barry will shogs.

I really think we will see a Besic  Baines CM this weekend. Thought Besic was class against Wolfsburg dropping deep and picking up the ball, no need in rushing Barry when he can so that job.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 29, 2014, 12:22:56 PM
Top work Agent Shog's.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 29, 2014, 02:26:31 PM
Weird that spurs have played at  home after every euro game.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: orangecrush16 on November 29, 2014, 03:06:14 PM
Am going to this. Think we can get something here. Spurs aren't up to much really, though on their day they could probably turn anyone over. Going for a 2-1 but not with a huge amount of confidence. Will be said so many times throughout the season, but reckon this is our most important game so far...til the next one of course. 
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 29, 2014, 03:37:00 PM
Weird that spurs have played at  home after every euro game.

And lost.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: hill135 on November 29, 2014, 04:33:48 PM
This is the fixture in which we always play well but never get what we deserve. Think we can break that duck tomorrow.

Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 29, 2014, 06:09:20 PM
Really dislike that Harry Kane at the moment.
1. Because he's called Harry and cockney's think it a good 'lad' name.
2. Because I just hate his face.
3. Because he's actually doing quite well for a young kid.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on November 29, 2014, 06:26:10 PM
I'd imagine it'll be four changes from Thursday night. Baines, Coleman, Barkley and Naismith replacing Garbutt, Hibbert, McCarthy and Eto'o. Barry on the bench.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: hill135 on November 29, 2014, 07:23:43 PM
Really dislike that Harry Kane at the moment.
1. Because he's called Harry and cockney's think it a good 'lad' name.
2. Because I just hate his face.
3. Because he's actually doing quite well for a young kid.

Agreed. Harry kane looks like a giant thumb, or one of the worms from that PS1 game of 15 years ago Worms.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: itsmyprtyanimromelulukaku on November 29, 2014, 07:27:57 PM
2-2
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Silas on November 29, 2014, 09:01:50 PM
Can't see Baines, naismith or Barry playing. Be besic and Osman in the middle. Wouldn't start Barkley and Eto'o one or the other would put Mc Geady on the right
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2014, 11:27:48 PM
Results did not go Everton's way today so definitely need a win to keep pace.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on November 30, 2014, 12:35:34 AM
Our record at 'The Lane ' as they call it isn't good ,only 16 wins in 78. Haven't won since 2009 which was our 3rd consecutive win down there. I'd take a draw but I have a feeling we can nick this.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on November 30, 2014, 12:39:48 AM
Need Besic to do a job on lamela. Not really bothered about their strike force. Their defence is a bit shit as well. Frankly is be disappointed if we didn't get a favourable result.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Rhys on November 30, 2014, 02:18:40 AM
I'd imagine it'll be four changes from Thursday night. Baines, Coleman, Barkley and Naismith replacing Garbutt, Hibbert, McCarthy and Eto'o. Barry on the bench.

Etoo came off after 70mins on Thursday which probably means he will start again tomorrow.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Ari on November 30, 2014, 02:22:15 AM
Where do Everton fans meet before a game at Whit Hart Lane?  Any specific place?  This is for one of my Everton friends here in Iceland. 
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 30, 2014, 02:40:49 AM
If we can keep them off the scoresheet in injury time we'll be alright.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Ari on November 30, 2014, 04:15:58 AM
If we can keep them off the scoresheet in injury time we'll be alright.

We have scored against them in injury time as well... :)
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 30, 2014, 06:39:20 AM
Complete cliche, but this is the kind of match we'll need to win if we have designs on qualifying for Europe again.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: worldwide on November 30, 2014, 07:06:18 AM
Hello...I just registered on forum, hope we win today :))
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bally on November 30, 2014, 07:51:12 AM
Hello...I just registered on forum, hope we win today :))
Welcome aboard enjoy your stay
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 30, 2014, 10:52:15 AM
Hello...I just registered on forum, hope we win today :))
Welcome aboard
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: VBlue on November 30, 2014, 02:37:27 PM
Possibly missing a key player, or two, or three to feel very confident about beating them, but they've lost against worst at home following Europe.  Therefore,  I am going 1-2. Ha
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on November 30, 2014, 07:04:03 PM
Think we'll need a good few of the injured lads back for this one to freshen things up, after a really tough game on Thursday.

Gareth Barry (ankle), Steven Pienaar (knee), Leighton Baines, James McCarthy and Steven Naismith (all hamstring) would make a big difference.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Eddie on November 30, 2014, 07:19:36 PM
Hello...I just registered on forum, hope we win today :))

A/S/L? xxx
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 30, 2014, 07:22:26 PM
Very nervous for today, if we set up right we will win though.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on November 30, 2014, 07:29:15 PM
This was the most frustrating defeat of the season for me last season, I hope we put it right this season.

We dominated the match, particularly the first half despite not playing with a proper striker but couldn't score. Tim fucking Sherwood then got his dose of luck as we turned off for their quickly taken set piece and that was the match. We lost to a team managed by Tim twat Sherwood.


Destroy them Blues!
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on November 30, 2014, 08:32:28 PM
Looks like Baines is fit.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: velimski on November 30, 2014, 08:32:51 PM
Baines and Barry seen carrying their boot bags into the changing rooms.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 08:32:59 PM
Just seen Gareth Barry in his tracksuit arriving at Spurs. Maybe he's ok. Great news if McCarthy is out.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on November 30, 2014, 08:34:19 PM
Great news if McCarthy is out.

Kopite.






;)
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 08:37:17 PM

Kopite.






;)

Ever considered a job at Sky news or the daily mail?
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on November 30, 2014, 08:38:16 PM
I really think we will have too much for them today . They look very one dimensional . Stop over playing it at the back and we should record a rare victory . 0-2 Mirallas and Lukaku again .
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on November 30, 2014, 08:39:24 PM
Just seen Gareth Barry in his tracksuit arriving at Spurs. Maybe he's ok. Great news if McCarthy is out.

McCarthy needs resting anyway . I think it would be reckless to play him .
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 30, 2014, 09:00:42 PM
: Howard, Baines, Jagielka (c), Distin, Coleman, Barry, Besic, Eto'o, Barkley, Mirallas, Lukaku.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 30, 2014, 09:01:02 PM
fuck me that team is sex
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on November 30, 2014, 09:01:31 PM
Almost nailed it in my team prediction
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: WiltshireBlue on November 30, 2014, 09:01:38 PM
: Howard, Baines, Jagielka (c), Distin, Coleman, Barry, Besic, Eto'o, Barkley, Mirallas, Lukaku.

I like the look of that, on form we'll do em
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on November 30, 2014, 09:02:59 PM
Everton subs: Robles, Hibbert, McGeady, Atsu, Osman, Pienaar, Garbutt.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 09:03:10 PM
Great team that, I honestly could bash one out on a daily basis just looking at that line up.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: hill135 on November 30, 2014, 09:03:29 PM
Barkley and Eto'o again. Thought people didn't like that?
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 09:04:00 PM
It's never that easy though, football never works this way, on paper we should do them, hard game this.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 30, 2014, 09:04:24 PM
Tottenham: Lloris (c), Vertonghen, Chiriches, Fazio, Davies, Bentaleb, Mason, Lennon, Eriksen, Kane, Soldado.

Tottenham subs: Vorm, Kaboul, Paulinho, Lamela, Dier, Dembele, Chadli.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: hill135 on November 30, 2014, 09:07:06 PM
Tottenham: Lloris (c), Vertonghen, Chiriches, Fazio, Davies, Bentaleb, Mason, Lennon, Eriksen, Kane, Soldado.

Tottenham subs: Vorm, Kaboul, Paulinho, Lamela, Dier, Dembele, Chadli.

What a shit team. Bentaleb and Mason in midfield!
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 09:07:32 PM
That Fazio looks a liability from what I have seen so far.

Soldado is plain garbage, we should be worrying about Kane more.

We just need to keep their attacking players quiet, stifle them and get an early goal to piss off the home crowd.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 09:07:57 PM
We have a better team than them. It's as simple as that. Let's do them.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on November 30, 2014, 09:09:28 PM
Good line up that - very pleased.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Redartin on November 30, 2014, 09:10:03 PM
Everton subs: Robles, Hibbert, McGeady, Atsu, Osman, Pienaar, Garbutt.

No Kone !
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on November 30, 2014, 09:12:54 PM
No Kone !

Probably out for another 3 months.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Ross on November 30, 2014, 09:14:00 PM
Really happy with that team certainly enough there to beat Spurs.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on November 30, 2014, 09:15:11 PM
Very good team but not sure about both Barkley and Eto'o in midfield considering we have Pienaar, McGeady and Atsu on the bench. I guess Osman is our backup central midfielder. Just hope we haven't rushed Barry and Baines back too soon.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 30, 2014, 09:15:32 PM
Decent side. Come on everton
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on November 30, 2014, 09:16:42 PM
No Kone !
.......I had him down for the winning goal  :headbang:
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Confucius on November 30, 2014, 09:17:24 PM
Worries we playing a few half fit players in Baines and Barry. Lennon could cause some damage if Baines isn't fully fit
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on November 30, 2014, 09:19:52 PM
Lennon couldn't cause damage if we were playing Pistone today.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: VBlue on November 30, 2014, 09:21:37 PM
I am back to feeling confident with a good bench to change it 2nd half if needed.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 09:21:47 PM
Lennon is great in straight lines. Ask anything more and he gets a bit confused the poor soul.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 30, 2014, 09:32:46 PM
Full power team sheet there... Hoping that Etoo and Barkley know their roles.

Feeling confident here COYB
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Silas on November 30, 2014, 09:33:47 PM
Like the team, think it's very narrow though and heavily reliant on Baines and Coleman to provide width. Lots of pace there though.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on November 30, 2014, 09:36:26 PM
Still prefer Eto'o from the bench, but with no Naismith I don't think we have a lot of choice.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on November 30, 2014, 09:39:30 PM
Everton are playing today aren't they? Just checking, cos i've been following Sky's coverage.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on November 30, 2014, 09:43:47 PM
Very attacking lineup for away at WHL. Seems a little unbalanced, can't see us playing our possession game and succeeding here. Hopefully we smash them on the counter.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on November 30, 2014, 09:45:45 PM
Martinez just said we lost Darren Gibson to injury. Did I miss that... What happened and how long is he out?
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Silas on November 30, 2014, 09:47:53 PM
Martinez just said we lost Darren Gibson to injury. Did I miss that... What happened and how long is he out?

He sneezed and his leg fell off
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Redartin on November 30, 2014, 09:50:05 PM
Who'll take Lennon out first and get sent off, Besic or Barry?
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blob on November 30, 2014, 09:50:50 PM
starting with a full glass. coyb   :woohoo:
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 09:52:56 PM
Spurs have been shaky at home this season, only means they will get it right today of course.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Tinga on November 30, 2014, 09:54:04 PM
Spurs have been shaky at home this season, only means they will get it right today of course.

They always do us anyway, not expecting much today and I'll be happy with a draw.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 09:56:59 PM
Lucky NSNO mug full of coffee.  We'll smash these, and relish in the home crowd turning on them.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 10:01:26 PM
We look pretty sharp in black.  Wondering if I need to change shirts at the half (out of solidarity).
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on November 30, 2014, 10:02:03 PM
Very impressive black kit we're sporting
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: hill135 on November 30, 2014, 10:02:42 PM
Streams are shit.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 10:03:19 PM
Barry looks like a cartoon villain (in a good way) in the black kit.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Tinga on November 30, 2014, 10:04:30 PM
http://www.stadium-live.biz/Channel2.html (http://www.stadium-live.biz/Channel2.html)
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on November 30, 2014, 10:05:27 PM
Everton fans in fine voice. Our away support is cracking these days.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: keverton1971 on November 30, 2014, 10:05:56 PM
http://www.stadium-live.biz/Channel2.html (http://www.stadium-live.biz/Channel2.html)
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Danny on November 30, 2014, 10:06:15 PM
https://www.connectcast.tv/DJANGO7314 (https://www.connectcast.tv/DJANGO7314)

By far the best stream i've found.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 10:07:41 PM
Well done, Ross!
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bwana on November 30, 2014, 10:08:47 PM
For fsss sake Ross! Pass the ball earlier! Magnificent run though...
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Tinga on November 30, 2014, 10:08:51 PM
We've got a Diamond called Ross Barkley!!
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 10:10:59 PM
Barkley is all over the pitch today.  He's really feeling it.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: worldwide on November 30, 2014, 10:14:42 PM
KEVIIIIIN
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 10:14:42 PM
SUPER KEV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blob on November 30, 2014, 10:14:42 PM
what. a fucking. goal!!!
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bluescow on November 30, 2014, 10:14:53 PM
WHAT A GOAL!!!!
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: velimski on November 30, 2014, 10:14:56 PM
FUCKING HELL
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: pjk on November 30, 2014, 10:15:06 PM
Super Kev!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Major Clanger on November 30, 2014, 10:15:06 PM
Straight off the training ground, that was. :)
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 10:15:10 PM
Goal of the season, easy.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Tinga on November 30, 2014, 10:15:19 PM
Pick that fucker out!!
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on November 30, 2014, 10:15:51 PM
Oh my shit! Cracking goal.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 10:15:57 PM
Brilliant.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bwana on November 30, 2014, 10:16:04 PM
What a beauty from Mirallas. Starting to love him again, in gayest possible way.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on November 30, 2014, 10:16:18 PM
What a strike that was. Absolute cracker!
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: worldwide on November 30, 2014, 10:16:34 PM
FANTASTIC !!!

Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 30, 2014, 10:16:38 PM
Belter.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: hill135 on November 30, 2014, 10:19:03 PM
We've done the important thing here and silenced the crowd.

What a bunch of shitters Spurs fans are.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 10:20:36 PM
Their players would probably rather hear our supporters rather than what their own have to say.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 10:21:14 PM
Well, fuck that.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blob on November 30, 2014, 10:21:18 PM
bollocks
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 10:21:25 PM
Am hearing the Ross Barkley song
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on November 30, 2014, 10:21:46 PM
Well done Tim.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bluescow on November 30, 2014, 10:22:04 PM
How irritating. And a Dane aswell.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: hill135 on November 30, 2014, 10:22:20 PM
They hadn't had a shot before that. FFS!
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: pjk on November 30, 2014, 10:22:30 PM
Shit.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 10:22:33 PM
That bloke sat next to Pochetino is one weird fucker
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on November 30, 2014, 10:22:47 PM
Shite that
Looked very much like Barry could've stopped that on the line
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on November 30, 2014, 10:22:48 PM
Poor from Howard :(
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 30, 2014, 10:23:44 PM
Need a new keeper it's as simple as that. Apart from last season Howard has been a liability all the time he's been here. He's been at fault for so many goals this season
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bwana on November 30, 2014, 10:23:48 PM
Timtimtimtim...
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blue slug on November 30, 2014, 10:24:54 PM
Fucking shite from howard for the goal
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: hill135 on November 30, 2014, 10:25:44 PM
Where is Barkley playing? Coleman's all alone on the right.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on November 30, 2014, 10:25:44 PM
That was such a nothing goal to concede, really frustrating.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: hill135 on November 30, 2014, 10:26:18 PM
Professional foul. SHould be a yellow.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blue slug on November 30, 2014, 10:27:12 PM
Besic has looked pretty good
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blue slug on November 30, 2014, 10:28:08 PM
Spot on hill coleman is wasted with no support
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on November 30, 2014, 10:29:08 PM
Eto'o and Barkley need to decide who is playing in the no 10 and who should be on the right.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 10:29:13 PM
Yes Eto'o looks a bit out of place.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 10:30:16 PM
Where in the ever loving christ is our midfield?
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bluescow on November 30, 2014, 10:30:27 PM
When did that Kane dude become mini maradona ?
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 10:30:36 PM
Perhaps we should go 4-3-3
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: hill135 on November 30, 2014, 10:30:49 PM
Fucking Someone needs to twat that David Cameron look-a-like cunt Kane
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 30, 2014, 10:31:22 PM
Barkley is becoming a bit of a liability. His form is terrible. Can't remember his last decent contribution
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 30, 2014, 10:32:36 PM
Barkley is becoming a bit of a liability. His form is terrible. Can't remember his last decent contribution

10 mns ago with a fucking boss run and almost a goal from lukaku at the end...
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 10:32:52 PM
Mirallas, Barkley and Eto'o don't appear to have a clue what they're supposed to be doing.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blue slug on November 30, 2014, 10:34:40 PM
Some people have very short memories dont they liz lol
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 10:34:42 PM
Far too many gaps
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 30, 2014, 10:34:52 PM
10 mns ago with a fucking boss run and almost a goal from lukaku at the end...

I missed the 1st 10 minutes so apologies. Everything he does at the moment is nearly. So many shots are charged down. Hopefully his luck will change and everything will start to click. At the moment though he's contributing very little of note
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blue slug on November 30, 2014, 10:35:51 PM
Its depressing to be wasting colemans threat down the right
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on November 30, 2014, 10:36:18 PM
Eto'o uses his body so well, he consistently beats players for that yard of space without even moving the ball.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 10:36:21 PM
Everyone has been out of sync since that soft, bullshit equalizer.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blue slug on November 30, 2014, 10:37:24 PM
Its depressing to be wasting colemans threat down the right.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 10:37:25 PM
Jesus, Mo!
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: hill135 on November 30, 2014, 10:37:30 PM
Fuck me
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on November 30, 2014, 10:38:15 PM
Missing Naismith's movement into the box.

Yikes, that was a let off.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bluescow on November 30, 2014, 10:38:22 PM
It seems Barkley is abit too eager. He wants to do so well.
He is probably full of energy and wants to prove himself.
So hard he is forgetting his position - and he ends up playing both centre midfield and on the right wing where he is supposed to be.
I think Martinez needs to sort out the positions in the break.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Gash on November 30, 2014, 10:38:39 PM
You can see why Besic doesn't play every week. Does some nice stuff but seems capable of dropping a big bollock.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 10:38:46 PM
Even if we score, this team shape needs sorting.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: RB1878 on November 30, 2014, 10:39:25 PM
All that inbred Twat Neville has done is slag us off and praise Tottenham.

Cunt should be grateful to us for giving his joke of a brother 10 years here.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: hill135 on November 30, 2014, 10:39:43 PM
Looks to me Eto'o is now on the right. Which I don't think improves the balance much.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blob on November 30, 2014, 10:40:00 PM
You can see why Besic doesn't play every week. Does some nice stuff but seems capable of dropping a big bollock.

agreed, gash. i'm not getting all this love for him, yet.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 10:40:52 PM
Why foul hom besic. Why?
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Silas on November 30, 2014, 10:41:09 PM
He's capable of massive brain farts for sure.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: WalterHarrow on November 30, 2014, 10:42:30 PM
Barkley reminds me of me when i play Be a Pro on Fifa. Im always out of position because im running around chasing the ball and always looking to be involved. He needs to just let the others do their jobs and stay in his position
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on November 30, 2014, 10:42:58 PM
Lol at Martinez
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: hill135 on November 30, 2014, 10:43:05 PM
Haha roberto giving the ref an earful for his inconsistency. Good.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on November 30, 2014, 10:43:07 PM
agreed, gash. i'm not getting all this love for him, yet.

He's similar to Barkley for me, there's clearly huge potential there in the pace/power/ball ability but the mental side of the game comes with age.

Wouldn't want both of them starting together yet, and you can see why Barkley doesn't get dropped into a midfield two often, he'd give it away more than Besic does.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on November 30, 2014, 10:43:43 PM
Wow. Martinez having a go at the ref.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blue slug on November 30, 2014, 10:43:56 PM
Totally shite since we conceded
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Gash on November 30, 2014, 10:45:10 PM
Been hugely frustrating to watch. Seems we get to the half way line them knock it back across the defence. Absolutely no outlet to move the ball.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blob on November 30, 2014, 10:46:14 PM
ffs......
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on November 30, 2014, 10:46:27 PM
Slow as fuck to offload the ball.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bluescow on November 30, 2014, 10:46:30 PM
FFS
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 10:46:33 PM
oh, fuck right off
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 30, 2014, 10:46:38 PM
Fuckinghell.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on November 30, 2014, 10:46:43 PM
Fucking shite that
Utter fucking shite
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on November 30, 2014, 10:46:50 PM
Awful. Martinez being totally out-thought by Pocchetino so far.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: pjk on November 30, 2014, 10:46:50 PM
I don't know. :headbang:
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on November 30, 2014, 10:47:01 PM
Been caught in midfield far too many times, no surprise that it led to a goal really.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bluescow on November 30, 2014, 10:47:07 PM
What a fucking waste. Such piss poor goals to give away to this crap bunch of team.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on November 30, 2014, 10:47:25 PM
Wow. We let Soldado score. We've just given up.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Gash on November 30, 2014, 10:47:30 PM
That's fucking terrible. You know things are shite when fucking Saldado scores against you.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 10:47:57 PM
Absolutely chronic from barry. Pitiful.

Absolutely no shape. No rhythm no ideas. Everything about spurs smacks of shape and guile. With every player knowing exactly what they are doing. What their role is.

What exactly is the role of eto and why do we not have a right hand side?
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 30, 2014, 10:48:17 PM
Terrible. Our passing is shite. Wth every ball the closing down gets closer. Spurs do it at pace and it creates space. Ours costs us space. It's not even possession for possessions sake. It's at a disadvantage to ourselves
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 10:48:23 PM
Earn your corn Roberto and sort this out.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on November 30, 2014, 10:48:44 PM
McGeady needs to come on for Barkley or Eto'o.

Plenty of time to go and they'll tire as the match goes on.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 10:48:47 PM
That was just hopelessly depressing.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 30, 2014, 10:48:50 PM
need huge changes at half time
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Ross on November 30, 2014, 10:49:02 PM
Eto'o off Pienaar or Osman on and Mirallas to the right.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on November 30, 2014, 10:49:05 PM
Distin didn't read that at all
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Gumpinio on November 30, 2014, 10:49:05 PM
The ultimate humiliation, we conceeded a goal from Saldado, a 30m heap of horse shit
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 10:50:19 PM
Soldados first goal for 9 months.

9 fucking months for a 30M striker.

Why us, why always fucking us?
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Outworlder47 on November 30, 2014, 10:51:03 PM
Lukaku has been completely anonymous, but it's not really his fault. Barkley and Eto'o occupying the same sorts of spaces, and with Mirallas cutting in like he does we have absolutely no width. We can't find a pass once we've got the ball 40 yards from goal because nobody's in a decent position.

There's no reason that a Lennon-Mason-Bentaleb-Eriksen midfield should be running this. Need McGeady or Pienaar for either Eto'o or Barkley to balance us out.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 10:51:14 PM
We were kind of asking for it, moping around after their first goal.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Ross on November 30, 2014, 10:51:24 PM
The ultimate humiliation, we conceeded a goal from Saldado, a 30m heap of horse shit


'Not scored for 20 odd games? No worries he's Everton...'

'Not won in 10 games ? Don't worry Everton next...'

Etc etc
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on November 30, 2014, 10:51:27 PM
Front 4 all trying to play the same game off the shoulder. Nobody coming short, osman needs to come on now
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: griff969 on November 30, 2014, 10:51:40 PM
We are just not competing at all, no shape, no ideas and no desire. if Roberto does not sort this out we will get over run
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: hill135 on November 30, 2014, 10:52:01 PM
We've got this completely wrong tactically.

They know we play possession so they're sitting in and springing us every time our moves break down. They're happy to play reactively. We should have called their bluff and dropped off and inviting them out. Force them to play in a way they're not comfortable with an impatient and demanding crowd. A midfield of Bentaleb and Mason offers nothing when there aren't any gaps. Now we're losing it's too late.

Barkley off, Pienaar on and over to the left with Mirallas on the right. It's our most balanced line up and it always has been.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 30, 2014, 10:52:09 PM
if we come back out with a balanced team we will win this still.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 10:52:22 PM
It is like Roberto has just picked the side in hope, thrown a load of players on and said do what ever.

Why is there absolutely no right hand side what so ever? Coleman has nobody, yet it didn't seem to change at all throughout the half.

Just see that out for half time and we dordle in the middle and give it away.

Need balance on the flanks so coleman has someone to play off.

As good as the team looked on paper, Eto'o and barkley can't play in the middle together because they are playing too similar roles.

I can guarantee absolutely no one else would get it this wrong against spurs.

We are making Harry Kane and Soldado look like Ronaldo and Messi
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Gumpinio on November 30, 2014, 10:52:45 PM
I think Eto'o needs to come off for McGeady or even Atsu, to give some threat down both flanks. 

And someone needs a word with Besic.  Love him when hes defending, but he is an accident waiting to happen in possession ( on relection I am surprised it was Barry who was robbed for their goal, Besic has threatened to do the same thing a few times in the first half).
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Outworlder47 on November 30, 2014, 10:53:00 PM
Distin didn't read that at all

He did what he could, to be fair, considering he had two men outside of him. Took the inside man, and I'm not sure if that's the right play, honestly, but the fault lies in midfield (Barry?) for surrendering the ball in that position.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: RB1878 on November 30, 2014, 10:53:18 PM
Fucking Soldado.

Could see that happening the second Barry started fucking about going nowhere. Bell end
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on November 30, 2014, 10:53:27 PM
Why do we insist with Eto'o and Barkley on the pitch at the same time? It doesn't work.

We need another body closer to Barry and Besic when we defend.

Harry Kane is fucking is up. which is ridiculous because Kane is a chump.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: griff969 on November 30, 2014, 10:54:04 PM
Distin didn't read that at all

He had three Tottenham players running at him, with no protection. Barry needs slapping for that one. Schoolboy stuff
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 10:54:39 PM
Eto'o should be best served off the bench or at least up top if he is to start.

A total tactical shambles, what is more annoying is why Roberto didn't bother to remotely change a thing tactically at any point during that half.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on November 30, 2014, 10:55:12 PM
In fairness we started well but that stupidly soft goal seemed to knock the stuffing out of us and gave them confidence when they had none. Really poor from Howard for that.

After that point I think our attacking play looked woefully disjointed. Eto'o in that role just doesn't work. He'd be better off as a sub later in the game. Really missing Naismith as there is just nobody going into the box again, everybody is hanging out of the area. Plus we definitely miss his workrate.

Barry looks like he's not quite at the races too.

To be honest if we're going to concede one it was probably better now as it'll hopefully force Martinez' hand. Need a change in personnel and shape. If Osman and Pienaar are fit I'd bring them on.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on November 30, 2014, 10:55:29 PM
To be fair, Soldado in the last couple games had looked more like scoring. Kinda wish I put a bet he would score against us knowing our reputation for giving opposition strikers the chance to get back to goal scoring form.

We were doing well until we scored then as normal we allowed Spiurs to get back in. They look very dangerous on the break, we take too long to build our attacks that they have enough numbers to defend. But when we lose the ball in midfield they have the pace to cause a lot of trouble. Could do with more presence in midfield.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on November 30, 2014, 10:55:55 PM
The individual errors have been annoying, but the tactics are what is causing them (Howard apart). Pocchetino is beating us with the high press. To combat that, we either need better balls in behind, to play long ball better, or amazing individual goals.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blob on November 30, 2014, 10:56:32 PM
I think Eto'o needs to come off for McGeady or even Atsu, to give some threat down both flanks. 

And someone needs a word with Besic.  Love him when hes defending, but he is an accident waiting to happen in possession ( on relection I am surprised it was Barry who was robbed for their goal, Besic has threatened to do the same thing a few times in the first half).

don't know about the atsu shout, but i'm with you on besic; bags of potential, maybe, but not ready yet.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on November 30, 2014, 10:56:52 PM
I'd start by bringing on Pienaar for Eto'o. Push Mirallas to the right.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: WalterHarrow on November 30, 2014, 10:57:00 PM
Surely Martinez etc have noticed that Coleman is alone on the right so hopefully he will change things and bring someone else on at half time
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: BigJoe on November 30, 2014, 10:57:03 PM
Howard goes to ground too soon. That shot could have been saved. We need Petr Chec.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on November 30, 2014, 10:57:22 PM
The second goal is all Barry's fault, can't fault Distin when he has three men running at him. That's what happens when you lose the ball in midfield. Really poor and no McCarthy to cover for us giving the ball away.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: hill135 on November 30, 2014, 10:57:45 PM
We've missed McCarthy badly as Barry's lack of pace has been badly exposed on the counter.

He's more reliable in possession than Besic and that first Eriksen goal is exactly the sort of situation where he saves our asses with a 30 yard sprint and last ditch tackle.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on November 30, 2014, 10:58:19 PM
We can only really play with what's available. Would be nice if McCarthy was fit and probably Pienaar as well.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 10:58:33 PM
I don't relish the thought of playing from behind against Lloris.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: WalterHarrow on November 30, 2014, 10:59:20 PM
We've got no forwards on the bench so i dont see why Martinez decided to start Eto'o instead of using him as an impact sub. Then we could have had Pienaar on to balance out the team and bring Eto'o on if needed
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 30, 2014, 10:59:29 PM
Well the atmosphere has gone to shit in our local.

Night and day 1st 15 min and last 30 in terms of energy. Players just phoning it in now
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 30, 2014, 10:59:47 PM
Howard was fucking horrendous on that first goal. No shape. No-one in the box. No fun.

Get it sorted Bobby.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on November 30, 2014, 10:59:59 PM
I'd have Osman and Pienaar on for Barkley and Eto'o.  Try and get more bodies in midfield to get space for the fullbacks.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 30, 2014, 11:00:06 PM
Shite that. Well in control and two fucking shite mistakes and now we're scrambling round like tits
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on November 30, 2014, 11:00:40 PM
Poor team selection. You can't just stick all your big name players on and hope it works, no balance in this team for the type of possession game Roberto wants us to play.

What happened to that sexy counter-attacking football we were playing in the final third of last season? Get Atsu the fuck on for Eto'o and let's have some of that.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 30, 2014, 11:00:53 PM
We've missed McCarthy badly as Barry's lack of pace has been badly exposed on the counter.

He's more reliable in possession than Besic and that first Eriksen goal is exactly the sort of situation where he saves our asses with a 30 yard sprint and last ditch tackle.

Right. Besic and Barry are being overrun
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bluescow on November 30, 2014, 11:01:06 PM
Hopefuly our formation are sorted, and hopefuly we can get the right side to function.
Hard pressure on Kane and Eriksen and some counter attackes from Mirallas/Coleman.

Lets win this!!
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 30, 2014, 11:01:36 PM
Barry is having a mare and isn't fit. Osman on for him may help
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on November 30, 2014, 11:01:57 PM
Still, time to turn this around with a big half from the lads.

Don't know why we didn't just go to Wolfsburg tactics once we went 1-0 up.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on November 30, 2014, 11:02:40 PM
I'd put 50 on no half time changes.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: RB1878 on November 30, 2014, 11:02:59 PM
Atsu shouts, seriously ffs? There's a reason we haven't seen much of him already
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 30, 2014, 11:03:40 PM
I'd put 50 on no half time changes.

Id be fucking pissed off if not
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on November 30, 2014, 11:04:19 PM
Agree totally that the last goals not Distin's fault in the slightest. Clearly Barry losing it is the issue. Distin just seemed to stop dead in his tracks when the ball was played through is all.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blob on November 30, 2014, 11:04:38 PM
we are sooooooo sloooooooooooow on the counter...
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 11:05:15 PM
Jags has a habit of dropping behind the defensive line and he did it again today as well as in another recent game. But that's the least of our troubles.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on November 30, 2014, 11:06:31 PM
May be greedy, or delusional, but I still want and expect three points out of this.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Ridge on November 30, 2014, 11:06:40 PM
Felt we were pretty good for the most part, Spurs have defended deep and well and scored a couple of cheap goals.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: WalterHarrow on November 30, 2014, 11:07:05 PM
Hopefully this is all a big master plan from Martinez to give Spurs a taste of their own medicine and win this is the last minute
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on November 30, 2014, 11:07:21 PM
We seem unable this season to hold onto a lead in the premier league.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 30, 2014, 11:07:40 PM
Soldado ended a run of 593 minutes without a goal (all competitions).


 :bonk:


Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Ridge on November 30, 2014, 11:08:39 PM
Not sure who to take off, but think we could use Pienaar in the tight space around the Spurs box.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 11:08:40 PM
Any changes?  I missed the first 5 minutes fucking with my NFL fantasy lineup.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 11:10:02 PM
Someone punch Harry Kane. I hate his fucking face so much
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 30, 2014, 11:10:03 PM
Come on Everton these are shite.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 11:11:09 PM
How long do you think before martinez makes a change.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 30, 2014, 11:11:45 PM
Any changes?  I missed the first 5 minutes fucking with my NFL fantasy lineup.

 Eagles are where its at like.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Ross on November 30, 2014, 11:12:02 PM
Fuckin perfect example their, throwing on the edge of their area Barkley throws it 25 yards back to Coleman and we work it back across the back four.

Got no forward momentum at all.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on November 30, 2014, 11:12:06 PM
Good point made by Neville there, we seem unwilling to pass to players who are marked, it's all too safe.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Redartin on November 30, 2014, 11:12:37 PM
How long before Soldado scores a second?
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 11:13:28 PM
Eagles are where its at like.

They were awesome on Thanksgiving, but don't have any Iggles in my money league.  So making sure Arian Foster is reasonably fit and active, and debating my WR3 spot.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on November 30, 2014, 11:13:39 PM
Distin needs to stay with Kane there.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bally on November 30, 2014, 11:14:22 PM
Needs to take Eto'o off  he's been  shite
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 11:14:38 PM
This is like a waking nightmare.  If anything, we are WORSE this half.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on November 30, 2014, 11:14:55 PM

How long before Soldado scores a second?
Hopefully another 9 months
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 11:15:00 PM
We're making these look like world beaters. Surely this has to get better?  C'MON EVERTON.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Ridge on November 30, 2014, 11:15:15 PM
In the hope of invoking a curse, Lukaku hasn't done much.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on November 30, 2014, 11:15:30 PM
This is embarrassing, they're running rings around us.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 11:16:31 PM
STOP MAKING KANE LOOK LIKE FUCKING MESSI!
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 11:16:34 PM
Lukaku with the hopeless shot on goal (out of frustration).
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: RB1878 on November 30, 2014, 11:16:56 PM
Harry Kane ffs!!!!!!

He's pure, unadulterated SHITE!!
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 11:17:23 PM
One roll out and it's 2 on 2. Fucking get a grip Everton.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Ross on November 30, 2014, 11:17:40 PM
Great Spurs making the first sub
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on November 30, 2014, 11:17:43 PM
Eto'o is a passenger.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Amata on November 30, 2014, 11:18:07 PM
Only 1 team look like winning this.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: hill135 on November 30, 2014, 11:18:13 PM
No one anywhere near Lukaku. Barkley needs to be through the middle where has can carry the ball long distances.

Barry has been woeful. Being unfit is one thing but it doesn't explain away his poor pass selection. He's slowed it down every time it needs speeding up.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Ross on November 30, 2014, 11:18:33 PM
Well thank fuck for that
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Tinga on November 30, 2014, 11:18:34 PM
They can't do any worse i guess.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blob on November 30, 2014, 11:18:45 PM
Needs to take Eto'o off  he's been  shite

i'd rather take lukaku (shite as well) off and move eto'o forward.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 11:18:59 PM
The right sub. Surprised it wasn't Barkley coming off.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: hill135 on November 30, 2014, 11:20:24 PM
Osman should enable Baines to get forward more, hopefully.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 11:20:24 PM
I would take Barry off so he doesn't get booked.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 11:20:25 PM
Probably the best spurs have played this season. Typical
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Amata on November 30, 2014, 11:20:39 PM
Chasing shadows, its like a passing exercise in training.
Title: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on November 30, 2014, 11:20:53 PM
This is annoying as fuck
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on November 30, 2014, 11:21:15 PM
If we can find a way to nick one back you can tell Spur's confidence is very fragile. Does require us scoring though.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 11:22:14 PM
Europa League or bust, FFS
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 30, 2014, 11:22:45 PM
We are stagnant. No movement no one breaking or creating space.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 11:22:48 PM
Even baines delivery is off
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on November 30, 2014, 11:23:00 PM

If we can find a way to nick one back you can tell Spur's confidence is very fragile. Does require us scoring though.
It's s good plan - especially the scoring bit.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bluescow on November 30, 2014, 11:23:48 PM
For how long is McCarthy out ? Is there anything confirmed ?
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 11:23:52 PM
Maybe if we had made these changes at halftime, would have come out with some focus and energy.  Too late now.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Amata on November 30, 2014, 11:24:37 PM
Coming out 2nd best every challenge and loose ball.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 11:25:11 PM
Really is the most all over the place performance I have seen from us in ages
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Amata on November 30, 2014, 11:25:43 PM
They want this so much more than us
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 30, 2014, 11:25:56 PM
Linesmans making it up as he toddles along.....
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on November 30, 2014, 11:26:08 PM
Osman is so fucking weak in possession
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 11:26:09 PM

Maybe if we had made these changes at halftime, would have come out with some focus and energy.  Too late now.

I'm not convinced we're any better now.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 30, 2014, 11:26:15 PM
so slow, no energy
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 11:26:20 PM
Tottenham just want it more.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Tinga on November 30, 2014, 11:27:10 PM
They always do us anyway.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on November 30, 2014, 11:27:34 PM
Oh dear - Dier
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on November 30, 2014, 11:27:35 PM
As crazy as this sounds, we're going to win this.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 30, 2014, 11:27:35 PM
This is pretty poor tbh. Spurs aren't even good
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 11:27:51 PM
Switch McGeady to the left and we need to focus with him and Baines on their right.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Ridge on November 30, 2014, 11:28:42 PM
oh dier
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blob on November 30, 2014, 11:29:00 PM
shit...close.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 11:29:10 PM
HOLY FUCK, SEAMUS.  WHAT WAS THAT??????????????
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: hill135 on November 30, 2014, 11:29:34 PM
I don't think that Mason has completed a single pass this afternoon. He's just been running after the ball for 70 minutes.

We're being outdone by some really simple football here.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Amata on November 30, 2014, 11:29:59 PM
Just a bit too much on the ball by Barkley
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 11:30:48 PM
Yeah.

Lets just write this one off.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: worldwide on November 30, 2014, 11:30:52 PM
Too slow, tott looks good behind
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Ridge on November 30, 2014, 11:30:53 PM
Spurs are made of jelly
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 11:31:26 PM
Feel like clawing my eyes out.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 11:31:37 PM
Fuck this commentator for saying we have no shot at winning Europa.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 11:32:52 PM
Spurs have just ad us off. Simple as that
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: WalterHarrow on November 30, 2014, 11:32:57 PM
I would take a draw now (although i still hope we win this late like Spurs usually do)
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on November 30, 2014, 11:33:17 PM
Just not creating chances, that Coleman one aside just now we're creating nothing.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on November 30, 2014, 11:33:44 PM
Oh osman ffs
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: BarryRathbone on November 30, 2014, 11:34:41 PM
We like to help teams out in trouble anyone having a bad run we're there... good like that us!
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Amata on November 30, 2014, 11:35:06 PM
Why is our first thought always to turn backwards.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 11:35:32 PM
:-(
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on November 30, 2014, 11:36:11 PM
Criminal offside there
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bally on November 30, 2014, 11:36:21 PM
Just shite besic is the only shining light
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 11:36:27 PM
I just want this shit to end. Put me in a stinking mood. We are so much better than this.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on November 30, 2014, 11:36:27 PM
This is depressing.
I fucking hate Spurs.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bluescow on November 30, 2014, 11:36:33 PM
When our fullbacks are beeing closed off we need a new idea.
Seems hard for us to find these ideas, unfortunatly.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 11:37:01 PM
Gimp.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Amata on November 30, 2014, 11:37:30 PM
Pass and move, not f*cking pass and stop
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blob on November 30, 2014, 11:37:30 PM
spurs do look poor, but at least they have a bit of what we lack in attack, pace.

grim.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on November 30, 2014, 11:37:32 PM
We play tippy tappy sometimes for the fucking sake of it
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 11:37:40 PM
This is why I like this time window on Sunday, though.  NFL comes on immediately afterwards, so I get distracted and don't stew in my shitty mood all day.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on November 30, 2014, 11:38:29 PM
You can see Besic having to try really hard not to kick the fuck out of opposing players.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 11:39:33 PM
You can see Besic having to try really hard not to kick the fuck out of opposing players.

I really, really hope he starts against Stoke.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 11:39:54 PM
Cannot believe how bad we have been today.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bluescow on November 30, 2014, 11:40:16 PM
One thing is losing for a better side. A whole other thing is losing for spurs.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Amata on November 30, 2014, 11:40:46 PM
You can see Besic having to try really hard not to kick the fuck out of opposing players.

Probably wants to kick the fuck out of ours too.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: RB1878 on November 30, 2014, 11:41:09 PM
Just shite besic is the only shining light

Been no better than anyone else and put Soldado through for a 1-v-1 almost. Shining light?
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blob on November 30, 2014, 11:41:22 PM
awful now. fuck it.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Yobo2008 on November 30, 2014, 11:41:31 PM
83 mins gone and Lukaku has been awful.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Ridge on November 30, 2014, 11:41:37 PM
Plenty of time left yet
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bally on November 30, 2014, 11:42:26 PM
We look so out of sorts it's fucking ridiculous, baines has been gak,  Jags and Distin been OK but we are getting caught out to fuckin easy 
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 11:42:28 PM
We need to rename ourselves sideways FC
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 11:42:43 PM
Well, at least we got a road fixture (at a bogey ground) out of the way.  We weren't going to beat (or even draw) anyone today, playing like this.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on November 30, 2014, 11:42:44 PM
How is there no advantage for that push on Osman.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bluescow on November 30, 2014, 11:42:45 PM
83 mins gone and Lukaku has been awful.

He havent got much to work with today. I dont think he is to blame.
I can think of players who have been worse than him today.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on November 30, 2014, 11:42:56 PM
Utter shite
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Amata on November 30, 2014, 11:43:02 PM
You wouldnt think we were getting beat. No urgency and barry has been sloppy
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bluescow on November 30, 2014, 11:43:10 PM
We need to rename ourselves sideways FC

And then back to keeper FC
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 11:43:13 PM
Barkley you arent marradonna yet
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Yobo2008 on November 30, 2014, 11:43:13 PM
And barry looks about 55 years old.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on November 30, 2014, 11:43:14 PM
We are running the clock down for Spurs at the moment.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: BarryRathbone on November 30, 2014, 11:43:24 PM
I'm sure the spurs pitch is half size fucking miniature it is.

Ross having a stinker
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 11:43:28 PM
Think Besic has been good too actually. Has been brave and seen a lot of the ball. Never hides.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Trowel on November 30, 2014, 11:43:31 PM
Worst thing about this match is I'm having to listen to it on fucking talkSport.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on November 30, 2014, 11:44:00 PM
To be fair we are very creative. In finding all manner of ways to lose possession.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Redartin on November 30, 2014, 11:44:24 PM
Barkley is like a headless chicken sometimes running nowhere
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: BarryRathbone on November 30, 2014, 11:45:31 PM
here we go
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 11:46:03 PM
How about we pass to feet and not everything on the half volley for a change
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on November 30, 2014, 11:46:18 PM
Dyer challenging Distin to a sprint. lolz.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: april on November 30, 2014, 11:46:43 PM
Last chance here.  COYB.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 11:47:44 PM
How the fuck is that not a pen, FFS?
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: april on November 30, 2014, 11:47:44 PM
Handball.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Amata on November 30, 2014, 11:48:01 PM
Fucking atrocious by Barkley
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 11:48:16 PM
Not a pen for me.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 11:48:30 PM
Would have been harsh handball
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on November 30, 2014, 11:49:02 PM
Absolutely hate Spurs away. Fucking annoying average Spawny team of cunts
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Amata on November 30, 2014, 11:49:12 PM
Besic giving Spurs what they want. Footballers are so clueless sometimes
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: april on November 30, 2014, 11:49:20 PM
Would have been harsh handball

I'd have taken it!
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Yobo2008 on November 30, 2014, 11:49:23 PM
So fooking frustrating today. Sideways, sideways, sideways
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 30, 2014, 11:49:48 PM
We didn't deserve the point anyway, but I still think handball.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Amata on November 30, 2014, 11:49:56 PM
Pen that
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on November 30, 2014, 11:50:11 PM
Not a pen for me.
I do not agree, but more important the ref don't agree with me either :)
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 11:50:28 PM
Defo pen
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: BarryRathbone on November 30, 2014, 11:50:47 PM
spurs hanging by their bollocks here
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blob on November 30, 2014, 11:51:06 PM
well fuck that  :(
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 11:51:13 PM
At the end of the day. Spurs fully deserve it. We have been woeful. Credit where it is due. We havent deserved it.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on November 30, 2014, 11:51:24 PM
Shite that
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: hill135 on November 30, 2014, 11:51:28 PM
Kane was pulling Besic's shirt. No pen.

Lamela should have been sent off for two tackles.

Eriksen should have been sent off for two professional fouls.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 11:51:40 PM
Twats
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on November 30, 2014, 11:52:10 PM
Not good enough.  Simply crap. Fully deserved. Well done spurs. Tactically outfought.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 30, 2014, 11:52:32 PM
Really poor performance. Deserved nothing
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: RB1878 on November 30, 2014, 11:52:42 PM
Besic puts in a spurs striker for the 2nd time today and gets away with it. Can't see why so many people are riding his dick
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: BarryRathbone on November 30, 2014, 11:52:50 PM
Spurs are like they've won the cup ... fucking ace us
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on November 30, 2014, 11:53:05 PM
Great goal, then gifted them two stupid goals courtesy of C3P0 and the bearded imbecile, then played like cunts for 75 minutes.

Got exactly what we deserved
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 30, 2014, 11:53:16 PM
Besic puts in a spurs striker for the 2nd time today and gets away with it. Can't see why so many people are riding his dick

wish i was
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 30, 2014, 11:53:16 PM
Spurs were bang average and there for the taking.

Shit performance and well look back at this as why we Didnt make it to Europe come Spring
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 30, 2014, 11:53:23 PM
Helped revive a dying team in Spurs and pissed me the fuck off.

Hawk, spit, thwack, fart. Tarrahhhhhhhhhhhh............ ............



Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Ross on November 30, 2014, 11:53:41 PM
Shite performance after Spurs equalised and poor from Martinez for not changing it earlier.

 
Title: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on November 30, 2014, 11:53:47 PM
Absolutely hate it.

Fucking shit season, every time we build a bit of confidence we fuck it up.

Beat Wolfsburg 4-1, lose to Palace.
Draw against the shite, lose to United
Go 5 matches unbeaten, winning in Germany, then lose to a shite Spurs team

Absolute bollocks weekend.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on November 30, 2014, 11:53:52 PM
I guess the end of term bell rung in Roberto's English class right as they were about to move past "Plan A" in the dictionary.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on November 30, 2014, 11:54:35 PM
Crap.

Another dire post Europa performance. You can say it shouldn't make a difference but looking at our results it's hard to shake the feeling that it does.

Missed Naismith today. The Lukaku/Eto'o/Barkley trio doesn't function well for me. Not enough in the box.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Gumpinio on November 30, 2014, 11:54:35 PM
....two stupid goals courtesy of C3P0 and the bearded imbecile....

Who
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Omar on November 30, 2014, 11:54:55 PM
shite weekend this is
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Gash on November 30, 2014, 11:55:49 PM
Just an all round thoroughly annoying game to watch.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on November 30, 2014, 11:56:05 PM
Reminded me of the palace game in regards scored early then that was it
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: BarryRathbone on November 30, 2014, 11:56:14 PM
I only watched the last 15mins so haven't seen the goals but the highlight suggests Negredo (the lad who never scores) notched. hahahaha wouldn't you just know it.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Gumpinio on November 30, 2014, 11:56:41 PM
1    Chelsea        13    19    33
2      Man City        13    14    27
3    Southampton    13    15    26
4    Man Utd        13    7    22
5    West Ham    13    5    21
6    Arsenal        13    6    20
7    Tottenham    13    0    20
8    Swansea        13    3    19
9    Newcastle    13    -2    19
10    Everton        13    2    17
11    Liverpool        13    -2    17
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: griff969 on November 30, 2014, 11:56:47 PM
Poor again after Europe. No drive, no ideas and completely outfought.

Having all the possession you like will do you no good if you are so slow that you cannot pull the likes of a very average team like Spurs out of position.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Outworlder47 on November 30, 2014, 11:56:58 PM
Kane was pulling Besic's shirt. No pen.

Lamela should have been sent off for two tackles.

Eriksen should have been sent off for two professional fouls.

Agreed on all accounts. How Eriksen didn't get booked in the first half is beyond me. And Lamela should've been booked for the second challenge on Baines at the midline, as it was basically the same tackle that earned him the first card.

Definite penalty on Fazio. Hand is raised ("unnatural position"), so it doesn't matter that it's a close contact. I recall  us being penalized for attempting a sliding block when the ball hit a raised arm from a similar distance. No real difference here except it's a leap rather than a slide.

The game went chaotic in the final 5-10, and given a few more minutes of that I think we score. But that urgency was missing from minutes 46-85. Tactics were off, as I don't think a Barkley-Eto'o-Lukaku combination has the right movement to work together. Lessons learned, hopefully.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: wepull on November 30, 2014, 11:57:02 PM
Well they covered us in our plan A and we don't have a plan B. Seriously the gap between the striker and the player behind him was huge every fucking time. No point having two attacking full backs to reach to the corner of the opposition half and pass it back. It's annoying.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on November 30, 2014, 11:57:30 PM

Crap.

Another dire post Europa performance. You can say it shouldn't make a difference but looking at our results it's hard to shake the feeling that it does.

Missed Naismith today. The Lukaku/Eto'o/Barkley trio doesn't function well for me. Not enough in the box.

Agreed. I think Naismith is probably our most important player at the moment. We all love Barkley but he is in terrible form at the moment.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: duncandisorderly on November 30, 2014, 11:58:56 PM
Utter shite, Barkley and Eto were fucking useless.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on November 30, 2014, 11:59:12 PM
Who

Distin

Don't know how many times Bobby needs to play Lukaku, Etoo and Barkley together to see it isn't even close to working either
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Gash on December 01, 2014, 12:00:25 AM
Really missed Naismith and McCarthy today.

At one point Lukaku got a cross in and there was no one in the box, guarantee that Naismith wouldn't have been far off getting on the end of it.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Alfie Noakes on December 01, 2014, 12:01:10 AM
Certainly not a good performance, Spurs were the better team but Everton definitely should have had a penalty there. Poor decision by the ref, clearly hand ball, he should read the rules again.

(Their "When the spurs go marching in..." song makes my skin crawl, they should have points deducted for that)
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2014, 12:01:38 AM
They smothered us incredibly well. Didn't allow us to send in many crosses. Overall, as many said we looked very confused in the final third and no one made any noteworthy runs in the final third. Just an overall poor performance.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Omar on December 01, 2014, 12:02:03 AM
Destroy a solid team like Wolfsburg then lose to this shite, fucking mental.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on December 01, 2014, 12:02:50 AM
We were poor and didn't create enough.

Not many great performances out there today. Lukaku wasn't involved but that wasn't really up to him, we just didn't get the ball in to him enough and when we did he often didn't have enough support.

Balance was off in the first half and we struggled to deal with their high line.

Thought we should have played the ball over the top a bit more to stretch them because they really make the field short by pressing him and using a high line.

Martinez needs to develop a different sort of plan because when it isn't working we don't often change much tactically, we just change personnel.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on December 01, 2014, 12:03:17 AM
We couldn't have been more pedestrian if we tried. Dire.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2014, 12:03:32 AM
Distin

Don't know how many times Bobby needs to play Lukaku, Etoo and Barkley together to see it isn't even close to working either

2 can play together effectively but all three when played together have shown to be too much.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 01, 2014, 12:03:46 AM
Worry is we won't get a point next week either.

Odd performance. Didn't understand rushing back Barry who was poor
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 01, 2014, 12:04:48 AM
Will be tough for Martinez to find positives in that match.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Amata on December 01, 2014, 12:05:13 AM
Spurs lost the ball and chased after it. We lost it and decided to let the defenders earn their pay. There was one point where Barkley got it took off him and instead of trying to win it back, he threw his arms in the air and shrugged his shoulders. That sort of attitude infuriates me.

If we were not going to use Colemans attacking threat then we should have played Hibbert. Barry looked rushed back and i dont ever want to see Barkley and Etoo in the same team again as they just get in each others way and leave the team unbalanced
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on December 01, 2014, 12:05:30 AM
https://twitter.com/FourFourTwo/status/539107849331556352

Says it all really - shocking.  Saying that, I am surprised it's only 7
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: TSGun on December 01, 2014, 12:08:09 AM
Could just about cry right now. Get up at 2:30am, watch us score a beautiful goal, filling me with hope, then gift wrap Spurs a couple of early xmas presents just because we can and are a caring bunch. Now my 7am start is looking really good, just pumped for it! FUCK!
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: sirblue57 on December 01, 2014, 12:09:31 AM
i have followed everton since the 60s, never fucking changes.....ever. we always find ways to bugger up a good run, it's uncanny.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: BarryRathbone on December 01, 2014, 12:10:11 AM
I'm desperate for Bobby M to come out and sing an Elvis number now .. it's the only thing that can turn today around.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: BarryRathbone on December 01, 2014, 12:13:06 AM
Ooo err just seen the goals - self inflicted dem babies
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: marky v on December 01, 2014, 12:13:23 AM
Kane pulling that old Gerrard run alongside then trail your leg out and let the defender hit them

2 best attacking full backs in the country don't play the ball ahead of them at any stage to run on to and don't let them cross the ball in open play either, Barkley does some amazing things unfortunatley follows them up with some awful

Poor team performance today - manager included
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: everton1952 on December 01, 2014, 12:14:52 AM
Someone said Spurs were shite, they wern't they were quite good and well deserved to win. Everton were shite for most of the game. No pace, no bite, very happy to get the ball  in their half and then work it backwards again and again. sometime back to Howard. Martinez will not change tactics. He will continue to expect pedestrian players to pass it around mostly sideways and backwards until someone loses it which happens very often. Most teams have wised up to us. Play high up and we are goosed. Hull will try to do the same on Wednesday and they are shite. Mid table suits us, not very good and not very bad.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: brap2 on December 01, 2014, 12:17:11 AM
i think the only position that suits ross is 10 at the moment, while eto'o can play 10 or up front or deeper. neither of them should ever be out wide.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: ally2 on December 01, 2014, 12:18:42 AM
It is a bit of a concern that our pattern of play isn't really evolving at the moment at all.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: benny on December 01, 2014, 12:19:07 AM
No shape everybody was all over the place too slow going forward.after saying that its on to the next match KEEP THE FAITH
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on December 01, 2014, 12:19:35 AM
Someone said Spurs were shite, they wern't they were quite good and well deserved to win. Everton were shite for most of the game. No pace, no bite, very happy to get the ball  in their half and then work it backwards again and again. sometime back to Howard. Martinez will not change tactics. He will continue to expect pedestrian players to pass it around mostly sideways and backwards until someone loses it which happens very often. Most teams have wised up to us. Play high up and we are goosed. Hull will try to do the same on Wednesday and they are shite. Mid table suits us, not very good and not very bad.

No need to overreact.

We are better than mid-table but we are in the area from between 4th and 7th. 5 points back of United who have had an easier schedule to date than us.

We need to start taking points from those around us though. All we have so far is a draw against Arsenal and another against the Shite.

Hopefully we can take something from Spurs, United and Liverpool when they visit us at Goodison.

Lots to work on, hopefully we can get some players back from injury and fully fit as well.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on December 01, 2014, 12:21:38 AM
"The performance was good enough for the 3 points"

I think Bobby needs to start sitting up in the directors box to watch the game.  We were shocking after we took the lead - end of
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on December 01, 2014, 12:21:41 AM
It is a bit of a concern that our pattern of play isn't really evolving at the moment at all.

That's going to happen though.

Last year we evolved a great deal throughout the year likely because we had a new manager.

We are more settled this year so the changes we make will likely be incremental and it will take more time to see them.

Today was disappointing and frustrating but we are well within striking distance of our goals still going in to a busy period of the season.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on December 01, 2014, 12:22:44 AM
Also, can someone please punch Harry Kane in the face and bitch-slap Lamela?

Hate them both.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on December 01, 2014, 12:27:09 AM
My feeling is that Martinez is looking to focus on the Europa League this season and the performances in europe are totally different to the ones from the league. I can see us finishing between 8th and 10th this season, thankfully we won't be in Europa league next season. A club of our size (financially) can't compete in more than one competition. Even though we have are larger squad, some are not of quality and are there just to make up numbers.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on December 01, 2014, 12:29:10 AM
That Harry Kane is a bit shite.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: everton1952 on December 01, 2014, 12:30:24 AM
Ross has done little or nothing to justify being in the team at all. Continues to disappoint. He is all potential and nothing more. One day maybe he might be this and one day he might become that ..after all he is very young, etc not really fit,etc etc. He is plainly not good enough to be our playmaker, as some try to claim he is.He might one day become a reasonably good player, who knows? Who else is there if he is dropped? Well no-one really. So do we let him jerk along doing very little except fall over at every tackle, or if someone shoves 30-40m in our direction, do we snatch it and get someone who is good enough for this league?
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: TheRam on December 01, 2014, 12:32:44 AM
Ross has done little or nothing to justify being in the team at all. Continues to disappoint. He is all potential and nothing more. One day maybe he might be this and one day he might become that ..after all he is very young, etc not really fit,etc etc. He is plainly not good enough to be our playmaker, as some try to claim he is.He might one day become a reasonably good player, who knows? Who else is there if he is dropped? Well no-one really. So do we let him jerk along doing very little except fall over at every tackle, or if someone shoves 30-40m in our direction, do we snatch it and get someone who is good enough for this league?

Stop being so dramatic, mate.



Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on December 01, 2014, 12:33:42 AM

Ross has done little or nothing to justify being in the team at all. Continues to disappoint. He is all potential and nothing more. One day maybe he might be this and one day he might become that ..after all he is very young, etc not really fit,etc etc. He is plainly not good enough to be our playmaker, as some try to claim he is.He might one day become a reasonably good player, who knows? Who else is there if he is dropped? Well no-one really. So do we let him jerk along doing very little except fall over at every tackle, or if someone shoves 30-40m in our direction, do we snatch it and get someone who is good enough for this league?

So he's not good enough to to be in the side and one day he might become a reasonable player, yet you're quoting 30-40m? What you are describing is a 6m player, would you take 6 for him?
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: charlatan on December 01, 2014, 12:35:39 AM
So do we let him jerk along doing very little except fall over at every tackle, or if someone shoves 30-40m in our direction, do we snatch it

We get offered anything like that for him, he'll be gone before you can utter the words "Nice one Bill"
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Optimistic Blue on December 01, 2014, 12:37:01 AM
The league is deffo a secondary competition to us now. The Europa is what were aiming for which we have been consistently brilliant in
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on December 01, 2014, 12:37:44 AM
Our style of play is dreadful, been well and truly sussed this season. Too crabby
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: RB1878 on December 01, 2014, 12:40:34 AM
The league is deffo a secondary competition to us now. The Europa is what were aiming for which we have been consistently brilliant in

Wouldn't say brilliant, we've done well.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: TheRam on December 01, 2014, 12:42:41 AM
How did bayern get on?
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: everton1952 on December 01, 2014, 12:50:26 AM
I have indeed described a 6m player on current performances but the media still hypes him up aided by even RM who recently said Ross will be the greatest England player in history. Someone could be fool enough to  offer something too high to refuse. I am not anti Barkley, just very disappointed at how poor he is compared to the hype. All Evertonians wish he would be what we want him to become.  So maybe batten down the hatches, keep playing him and hope,or take a mega offer? Neither am I blaming him for all our deficiencies which may end up with us midtable this season. But he is supposed to be one of our big big hopes for the future. Just show some consistent evidence to keep us hoping.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: cjohno100 on December 01, 2014, 01:16:27 AM
that was shocking, we looked totally not arsed, we need a plan b because plan a made me yawn. were was kone? he was on bench thursday never played, yet couldnt make bench today lol did he get injured sitting on the bench. we got beat by a very poor spurs team today, howard was poor on first goal barry was even worse on 2nd, barkley 50 million? take it now
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Silas on December 01, 2014, 01:25:01 AM
We lost away to Tottenham it's hardly a massive fucking shock.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on December 01, 2014, 01:25:46 AM
The league is deffo a secondary competition to us now. The Europa is what were aiming for which we have been consistently brilliant in

That's a very small needle to thread though. I'd rather we focus on the league and treat the Europa for what it is...a bit of a long shot.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: brap2 on December 01, 2014, 01:25:57 AM
We lost away to Tottenham it's hardly a massive fucking shock.

more the performance itself that has people in shock
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Silas on December 01, 2014, 01:29:03 AM
more the performance itself that has people in shock

A poor away performance to Tottenham isn't a massive shock either mate.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on December 01, 2014, 01:33:10 AM
Well. Credit to Pochettino, not the 1st or 2nd time he has caused problems for Everton, he knew how to deal with our weaknesses and on the day, Spurs just looked slightly more up for it. If only we could learn to attack more quickly then we would look a more dangerous team.

I expect that Harry Kane to be called up for the full England squad by the summer.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: cjohno100 on December 01, 2014, 01:34:13 AM
A poor away performance to Tottenham isn't a massive shock either mate.
butits a very very poor spurs team, top 4 is there for taking this season and we dont look interested most of time in the league
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on December 01, 2014, 01:35:18 AM
butits a very very poor spurs team, top 4 is there for taking this season and we dont look interested most of time in the league

Best that Spurs have played under the new manager today. Couldn't believe how committed and organised they were tbh.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: cjohno100 on December 01, 2014, 01:40:01 AM
Best that Spurs have played under the new manager today. Couldn't believe how committed and organised they were tbh.
if thats the best they have played then there fucked, we were shocking, most teams are well organised in the prem, if you can beat a poor team thats well organised then you have had it
Title: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on December 01, 2014, 01:44:10 AM
Hello...I just registered on forum, hope we win today :))
I blame you for today.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: TheRam on December 01, 2014, 01:59:51 AM
Where's this 'not interested' shit coming from?

Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cuttyblue on December 01, 2014, 01:59:58 AM
I blame you for today.

Lol, burrrrrn the witch!
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 01, 2014, 02:23:08 AM
What did Roberto say?
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: The Good Citizen on December 01, 2014, 02:33:32 AM
Spurs played up today, they really needed that. You could see first 20 minutes we were the far more settled team but that goal against the run of play gave them something to get behind. Look we're a young side in key positions. Lukaku and Barkley are still some years off being at their best, god know's I'm gagging for the day when Ross stops listening to Hodgson, Gerrard, the crowd the media even  Martinez about what sort of player he has to be.. and just runs a game, he has clearly more talent and promise than anyone on that pitch but he's not naturally that cocky little fucker that Rooney was and is spending his time listening to all and sundry about just how he his supposed to become that world class talent. It's admirable but I think he's going to have to grow a pair and think fuck you all I'm the one with  the talent and do it his way for his own sake. I also think he's never recovered fully, mentally from that leg break. He should be looking to be the equal of hazard in terms of his influence, does he have hazard ' s mental strength,  his arrogance though?? I was missing Naismith second half same as you all probably were but fact is Barkley could, should be a player Naisy could only dream off but he has to want it and he has to tell that Owl faced twat of an England coach to do one the next time he gets screamed at for being tackled on his first touch. A fully realised Barkley transforms us from a quality side to a great one but he's got to start demanding the ball and berating rather than being the one berated and he needs to work more, same as Lukaku,  he doesn't bust a gut to make runs in behind or drive in to space, when he does good things happen it's just not often enough. 
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on December 01, 2014, 02:46:18 AM
butits a very very poor spurs team, top 4 is there for taking this season and we dont look interested most of time in the league
...........in what sense were Spurs very very poor ? and in what sense did Everton not look interested ? On the day ,Spurs were better than us. Get over it.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: The Good Citizen on December 01, 2014, 03:00:41 AM
...........in what sense were Spurs very very poor ? and in what sense did Everton not look interested ? On the day ,Spurs were better than us. Get over it.

Absolutely, they dug in today and produced a performance for their boss. It was a back handed compliment the way the realised how they had to drop in allow us the ball and try and catch us in possession and it worked for them. Absolutely no complaints from me.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: bangthedrum on December 01, 2014, 03:02:54 AM
i think our problem is Martinez doesn't know what to do with the midfield. he's basically gone into the season without a play maker, so he is constantly mixing it up in them positions and out wide he basically plays whoever he feels like playing there,we have seen Naismith,Barkley and Osman in wide positions when clearly they cannot play there. just glad mirallas is back. i no we have Europa league an he needs to mix it up but we have a few who clearly are not good enough an that comes back to martinez.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: cjohno100 on December 01, 2014, 03:07:15 AM
...........in what sense were Spurs very very poor ? and in what sense did Everton not look interested ? On the day ,Spurs were better than us. Get over it.
spurs are not a good side, they have been very poor this season, particularly at home, we went 1-0 up and then the same as a lot of games this season we became sloppy and very lazy , we were missing simple 5 yard passes, the 2 goals we all because of poor play from us, spurs didnt have to play well , we looked aimless and clueless at times, that was a very poor performance, but if your happy with that then good for you. if teams dont come on to us and let us counter attack were done for, spurs just sat back let us have the ball and just laughed at us toiling constantly
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: The Good Citizen on December 01, 2014, 03:09:12 AM
i think our problem is Martinez doesn't know what to do with the midfield. he's basically gone into the season without a play maker, so he is constantly mixing it up in them positions and out wide he basically plays whoever he feels like playing there,we have seen Naismith,Barkley and Osman in wide positions when clearly they cannot play there. just glad mirallas is back. i no we have Europa league an he needs to mix it up but we have a few who clearly are not good enough an that comes back to martinez.

Without being antagonistic who's the starting X I then, he has to rotate, players are in and out the treatment room, it's not an easy job picking that staring XI. No problem criticising but what should he have done?
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 01, 2014, 03:10:01 AM
Great team that, I honestly could bash one out on a daily basis just looking at that line up.

Having a lot of good players in the line-up does not necessarily mean they will make a good TEAM.

You need balance, you need energy, you need movement, you need fitness... these were all missing.

No energy without Mccarthy & Naismith, no width & no support for the full-backs and hence no penetration.

I hope Roberto learns from this that you cant just throw a group of good players out there and expect it to work.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: bangthedrum on December 01, 2014, 03:15:40 AM
its ok rotating a winger for a winger or a central midfielder for the same but he doesn't, plays players out of position, if there is an injury then that understandable but otherwise he still does it,you need a settled balanced midfield not this.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: The Good Citizen on December 01, 2014, 03:21:44 AM
its ok rotating a winger for a winger or a central midfielder for the same but he doesn't, plays players out of position, if there is an injury then that understandable but otherwise he still does it,you need a settled balanced midfield not this.

Again, that's just vague. McCarthy was out so Besic is naturally the right choice and the midfield 3, Pienaar hasn't played, what did you want to see? If you're after continuity Mcgeady to start instead of Barkley? RM hand was forced tonight, it has been all season, plus we have no idea of the condition of the players post Thursday. It's an easy score blaming the manager, didn't hear too many discerning voices pre whistle. Not one tbh.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: bangthedrum on December 01, 2014, 03:31:21 AM

The top and bottom of it is are attacking midfield is crap,(not including miralas)and martines should have improved it at the start of the season and thought atsu would do the trick. osman barkley and mcgeady, garbage. you can say barkley is potential but we need to think about the now because thats what matters.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on December 01, 2014, 04:03:16 AM
Again, that's just vague. McCarthy was out so Besic is naturally the right choice and the midfield 3, Pienaar hasn't played, what did you want to see? If you're after continuity Mcgeady to start instead of Barkley? RM hand was forced tonight, it has been all season, plus we have no idea of the condition of the players post Thursday. It's an easy score blaming the manager, didn't hear too many discerning voices pre whistle. Not one tbh.

ahem.

Very attacking lineup for away at WHL. Seems a little unbalanced, can't see us playing our possession game and succeeding here. Hopefully we smash them on the counter.

Then again I did predict a 2-0 win in the prediction league, so what the fuck do I know.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: The Good Citizen on December 01, 2014, 04:16:55 AM
The top and bottom of it is are attacking midfield is crap,(not including miralas)and martines should have improved it at the start of the season and thought atsu would do the trick. osman barkley and mcgeady, garbage. you can say barkley is potential but we need to think about the now because thats what matters.

Chelsea drew 0-0 with Sunderland yesterday, the supposed invincibles being touted as the best team the premiership has seen against a team that was a few games ago, a laughing stock at the hands of Southampton.  It's a fucking hard league, and losing a hard fought away game against an equally matched but richer side is I'm afraid just life. we have a side with players who are young and a few seasons off being the finished article. We also have very little money, by very little I mean we spend fuck all above what me make from sales and have been as such for the last ten years. Somehow though we still have a side rife with talent and potential, so it's not about the now, no mater how much as we want it to be, it's about a young team learning how to win away against quality and tonight losing a close fought game. Lukaku, Barkley, they are 4 years off their peak, it's as simple as that. Given our total lack of financial clout I'm constantly amazed at the squad we have tbh.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 01, 2014, 05:56:19 AM
If we get offered daft money for barkley we should sell him. 40m for a player who's had only a handful of good games and may or may not become a star is crazy money. The lad is currently going backwards. Rarely makes a decent contribution never mind has a good game. I don't see it. Obviously he's talented but christ he's light years behind what Gerrard and Rooney were doing at his age. He's actually in the here and now worse than Osman
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Cuttyblue on December 01, 2014, 06:30:51 AM
Spurs passed the ball around nicely but looked very average in terms of quality.

Everton poor away performance vs. an average Prem side = 2-1 defeat every time!  :headbang:

Really missed an opportunity here.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Shogun on December 01, 2014, 06:56:19 AM

If we get offered daft money for barkley we should sell him. 40m for a player who's had only a handful of good games and may or may not become a star is crazy money. The lad is currently going backwards. Rarely makes a decent contribution never mind has a good game. I don't see it. Obviously he's talented but christ he's light years behind what Gerrard and Rooney were doing at his age. He's actually in the here and now worse than Osman


Here, let me pick those toys up from the floor for you.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: TheRam on December 01, 2014, 07:10:02 AM
What's this whole Barkley thing about?

Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on December 01, 2014, 07:47:41 AM
What's this whole Barkley thing about?



We lost.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Omar on December 01, 2014, 09:28:30 AM
It's like being fan of the Raiders. :(
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 01, 2014, 11:59:10 AM

Here, let me pick those toys up from the floor for you.

You don't think an Ozil/Sanchez/Van Persie fee is daft for Barkley. You don't think he's light years behind what Rooney and Gerrard were doing?? The money being quoted for the lad is frankly ridiculas
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 01, 2014, 02:00:29 PM
You don't think an Ozil/Sanchez/Van Persie fee is daft for Barkley. You don't think he's light years behind what Rooney and Gerrard were doing?? The money being quoted for the lad is frankly ridiculas

Lets give him some space and time to develop, remember he has hardly played this season. The reason he is 'light years' behind Rooney and Gerrard is due to a really bad leg break as he was bursting onto the scene. Not only will that have physical repercussions, it will also hinder him mentally. We have seen flashes of his potential, the goal v newcastle and a similar run yesterday, the goal v city last season...

He seems to be a confidence player, and so, as Evertonians, lets get behind a talented home grown Evertonian and hope he becomes the super star we know is there. Moaning about him and begging him to be sold wont help his development, believe it or not im sure players can sense negativity on the pitch, some players take it on board and use it to improve (Naismith) some players heads drop (McGeady) I for one dont want to see Barkleys head drop because of a few knob heads in the stands.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Rhys on December 01, 2014, 02:55:45 PM
You don't think an Ozil/Sanchez/Van Persie fee is daft for Barkley. You don't think he's light years behind what Rooney and Gerrard were doing?? The money being quoted for the lad is frankly ridiculas

50m for someone who has played around 50 games and still a lot to prove is huge money and would be a massive call for the club to turn down, if someone would actually pay that. But there would be a massive risk for the club if he turned into a world star and we sold him because we weren't convinced, would be horrible to see another of our own become a great and not see them do anything for us.

And yes light years behind Rooney at this point in Rooneys career, if you look at it from an age perspective. Rooney had similar number of games and international caps when he was still 17 and was still very raw then. Maybe Barkley would have done too without the leg break when he was 16 and been a lot more consistent on the pitch now? And looking at it from another perspective, Barkley is light years ahead of where bale was when he was 20 and within 3 years he went for a world record fee.

Players develop differently, some very quickly whereas others take a bit more time. Just because Gerard was dominating games at 21 doesn't mean Barkley won't ever, it might be he needs 2 years to keep learning but even if he does he would still only be 22 with hundreds of games ahead of him.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 01, 2014, 03:07:11 PM
Lets give him some space and time to develop, remember he has hardly played this season. The reason he is 'light years' behind Rooney and Gerrard is due to a really bad leg break as he was bursting onto the scene. Not only will that have physical repercussions, it will also hinder him mentally. We have seen flashes of his potential, the goal v newcastle and a similar run yesterday, the goal v city last season...

He seems to be a confidence player, and so, as Evertonians, lets get behind a talented home grown Evertonian and hope he becomes the super star we know is there. Moaning about him and begging him to be sold wont help his development, believe it or not im sure players can sense negativity on the pitch, some players take it on board and use it to improve (Naismith) some players heads drop (McGeady) I for one dont want to see Barkleys head drop because of a few knob heads in the stands.

Totally agree about the leg break and him needing time. 50m though!? Some saying they'd want a world record fee. He's done nothing to justify that talk and may never do. He's a good prospect but if we get offered world beater money for a good prospect then we should sell. I've no issue with the lad. He's just not worth anything like the fees being talked about
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 01, 2014, 03:10:38 PM
Totally agree about the leg break and him needing time. 50m though!? Some saying they'd want a world record fee. He's done nothing to justify that talk and may never do. He's a good prospect but if we get offered world beater money for a good prospect then we should sell. I've no issue with the lad. He's just not worth anything like the fees being talked about

you need to think of the market too, and him being English, that bumps the price up, how much was henderson, downing, carrol?? He is going to be so much better than them, he is better now! It may seem ridiculous, but if Andy Carrol is bought for 35million, then 50 million for a potential English star isnt so crazy!
Title: Re: Tottenham v Everton
Post by: Gash on December 01, 2014, 03:42:06 PM
you need to think of the market too, and him being English, that bumps the price up, how much was henderson, downing, carrol?? He is going to be so much better than them, he is better now! It may seem ridiculous, but if Andy Carrol is bought for 35million, then 50 million for a potential English star isnt so crazy!

It is when Liverpool's valuations are the benchmark.