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Title: Max Aarons
Post by: mikey_blue on February 23, 2021, 09:00:15 PM
Linked again

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: cantoffee on February 23, 2021, 09:05:02 PM
Don't see how we sign him if they get promoted as they'll want stupid money for him.

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on February 23, 2021, 09:17:35 PM
Don't see how we sign him if they get promoted as they'll want stupid money for him.

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The thought of him choosing us over Bayern. lolol
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Robioto on February 23, 2021, 09:18:44 PM
This would be an amazing singing if we can pull it off. I believe the rumours as he is exactly the sort of player we should be looking at, although there is going to be stiff competition with Bayern, United and potentially Barcelona interested.

I do feel we have a lot to offer a player like Aarons though. Ancelotti and a regular place in the team being two obvious reasons. Also with Godfrey settling so well and them being close that could play a factor as well. And after listening to Holgate on the Rio Ferdinand podcast turning down United when he moved to us, he might see Everton as a better move this stage of his career and might be excited about our short/medium term prospects, we are on the up.

I know it's unlikely if the aforementioned in for him, but I don't think it's quite a straightforward as some may think.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: sam of the south on February 23, 2021, 09:20:47 PM
The thought of him choosing us over Bayern. lolol

Well, Baines allegedly chose to stay with us instead of going to Bayern, so.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on February 23, 2021, 09:50:05 PM
Well, Baines allegedly chose to stay with us instead of going to Bayern, so.

You're saying something that may or may not have happened 15+ years ago holds any bearing on today, so.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: sam of the south on February 23, 2021, 09:57:17 PM
You're saying something that may or may not have happened 15+ years ago holds any bearing on today, so.

Itís just an example of it happening before.

Plenty of players have chosen us over more successful, or more in vogue clubs, particularly over ones that are abroad. 

And it probably did happen, because Baines was superb, so.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: TheRam on February 23, 2021, 10:25:10 PM
Heíd be silly to join Bayern over Everton imo.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: ajax_andy on February 23, 2021, 10:30:01 PM
Coming here as first choice, where we've shown we develop young talent and give them game time, where he'd be guaranteed to start, where he gets to team up with his old teammate, at a club challenging for Europe (or possibly in Europe depending on where we finish).

There's a lot going for signing for us, even over someone like Bayern where he might not be a starter.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on February 23, 2021, 10:34:18 PM
Can someone whos seen a fair but of him explain what (or who) hes like?
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on February 23, 2021, 10:40:26 PM
Coming here as first choice, where we've shown we develop young talent and give them game time, where he'd be guaranteed to start, where he gets to team up with his old teammate, at a club challenging for Europe (or possibly in Europe depending on where we finish).

There's a lot going for signing for us, even over someone like Bayern where he might not be a starter.

He's a starter at Bayern. They need a RB since Kimmich has turned into a deep-lying center mid.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Paddockoldie on February 23, 2021, 10:42:44 PM
He needs a wording by God.... sort it son.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: GLewis on February 23, 2021, 10:44:35 PM
Heíd be silly to join Bayern over Everton imo.

They lost at the weekend, we won.

Clearly only one team on the way up
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bob Sacamano on February 23, 2021, 10:55:03 PM
Imo, simply based on watching young player career trajectories over a couple of decades, with no professional or inside knowledge, a player shouldnít move from the championship to a club expecting to win 100% of their games.

Sensible players usually climb the ladder. They also make a fortune by making the right moves, rather than make their big move first and then have to downgrade thereafter.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Brownie on February 23, 2021, 10:58:57 PM
£35m theyíve quoted Bayern havenít they?
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 23, 2021, 10:59:05 PM
The thought of him choosing us over Bayern. lolol

Baines did.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bob Sacamano on February 23, 2021, 11:00:06 PM
My prince was the best LB the in the world at the time.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on February 23, 2021, 11:00:46 PM
Baines did.

haha, that's been covered. ;)

Regardless of what may or may not happen, I don't see why we'd go for a RB who'll almost certainly cost £40m+ when we could easily find one as good for half that.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on February 23, 2021, 11:27:39 PM
Imo, simply based on watching young player career trajectories over a couple of decades, with no professional or inside knowledge, a player shouldnít move from the championship to a club expecting to win 100% of their games.

Sensible players usually climb the ladder. They also make a fortune by making the right moves, rather than make their big move first and then have to downgrade thereafter.

That's a fair shout. (still think for 40m we could get 2 good players but hey)
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cereal Killer on February 24, 2021, 01:02:44 AM
Can someone whos seen a fair but of him explain what (or who) hes like?

He gets up the pitch a lot, very attacking. His defending when Norwich were in the prem was pretty awful though, all the goals they conceded seemed to come from him and Lewis being miles out of position, but thatís something you can work on I guess
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Toddacelli on February 24, 2021, 03:14:20 AM
haha, that's been covered. ;)

Regardless of what may or may not happen, I don't see why we'd go for a RB who'll almost certainly cost £40m+ when we could easily find one as good for half that.

You don't rate Aarons then? Why not?
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: blargins on February 24, 2021, 04:02:56 AM
Should be able to pick up a new one for 60k.


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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Free Agent on February 24, 2021, 05:24:48 AM
Who was that player -from Tranmere I think? - who picked Bayern over us a few years ago?
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Robioto on February 24, 2021, 05:26:00 AM
Who was that player -from Tranmere I think? - who picked Bayern over us a few years ago?

Dale Jennings wasn't it?
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Free Agent on February 24, 2021, 05:48:18 AM
Yeah thatís him.
Didnít work out for him it seems
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: sam of the south on February 24, 2021, 02:55:35 PM
Yeah thatís him.
Didnít work out for him it seems

Yeah, he plays for Prestatyn Town, these days.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Fynci on February 24, 2021, 03:03:52 PM
He gets up the pitch a lot, very attacking. His defending when Norwich were in the prem was pretty awful though, all the goals they conceded seemed to come from him and Lewis being miles out of position, but thatís something you can work on I guess

Doesn't sound like a 35m pound player to me!
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cereal Killer on February 24, 2021, 03:15:20 PM
Doesn't sound like a 35m pound player to me!

🤷‍♂️ Seems to be the current trend, just an athlete who can get up the pitch for 90mins
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: MmmblueBernard on February 24, 2021, 06:07:04 PM
Get Godfrey on the blower to him...
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on February 24, 2021, 06:51:54 PM
🤷‍♂️ Seems to be the current trend, just an athlete who can get up the pitch for 90mins
Thatís the modern fullback. TAA, Lamptey, etc canít defend. A lot of these players are converted wingers, so defending isnít natural to them. Thatís not to say they wonít get there, eventually.

I like Aarons but seems on the expensive side, especially when the likes of Joakim Mśhle went for Ä10m in the summer.

Iíd understand the signing and think he could work out well, but itís a bit on the lazy side, if Iím honest.


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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: bigdunc9 on February 24, 2021, 07:33:28 PM
I'd say it does. 15 years ago we didn't have a wealthy owner nor did we have Carlo.
Maybe a bit part of it was baines being a blue.
You're saying something that may or may not have happened 15+ years ago holds any bearing on today, so.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: ajax_andy on February 24, 2021, 07:34:17 PM
Thatís the modern fullback. TAA, Lamptey, etc canít defend. A lot of these players are converted wingers, so defending isnít natural to them. Thatís not to say they wonít get there, eventually.

I like Aarons but seems on the expensive side, especially when the likes of Joakim Mśhle went for Ä10m in the summer.

Iíd understand the signing and think he could work out well, but itís a bit on the lazy side, if Iím honest.


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Probably ready to go though, and can no doubt be improved massively by Ancelotti's coaching.

You could take a £30m - £40m player and have a £70m asset on your hands in one or two seasons.

*I think he costs too much in fairness at those figures, but do see the potential upside to doing a deal at that price.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Waltzer on February 24, 2021, 07:48:34 PM
Probably ready to go though, and can no doubt be improved massively by Ancelotti's coaching.

You could take a £30m - £40m player and have a £70m asset on your hands in one or two seasons.

*I think he costs too much in fairness at those figures, but do see the potential upside to doing a deal at that price.
I'm not sure that's true and hasn't really played through that way. Paying 30-40 is probably way over what he's worth, so no guarantees he'd all of a sudden increase exponentially.
If this is the model, which I think it is, then you need to be picking them up for 10-15 million, not 30/40

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 24, 2021, 07:51:29 PM
I'm not sure that's true and hasn't really played through that way. Paying 30-40 is probably way over what he's worth, so no guarantees he'd all of a sudden increase exponentially.
If this is the model, which I think it is, then you need to be picking them up for 10-15 million, not 30/40

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You're not picking anybody up for 10-15m nowadays though.

But you're general point is correct. The £25m Godfreys of the world should be the market we dip into a couple of times a year.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Waltzer on February 24, 2021, 07:56:43 PM
You're not picking anybody up for 10-15m nowadays though.

But you're general point is correct. The £25m Godfreys of the world should be the market we dip into a couple of times a year.
Probably right, I was just looking if we paid 40 million that would be top end, especially in today's market. The most expensive fullback ever is Lucas Hernandez at 68 million and that was when prices were sky high, so the expectations Aaron's would be worth this in a year or so would be ambitious imo

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: ajax_andy on February 24, 2021, 08:19:56 PM
Probably right, I was just looking if we paid 40 million that would be top end, especially in today's market. The most expensive fullback ever is Lucas Hernandez at 68 million and that was when prices were sky high, so the expectations Aaron's would be worth this in a year or so would be ambitious imo

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I have no real idea what he's worth as I don't think I've ever seen him play.  More that if he is actually worth £30m-£40m he's likely to be worth a lot more once he's developed here. 

Completely agree that if he's only worth £15m - £20m we should be looking to not pay over the odds for him.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: cantoffee on February 24, 2021, 08:22:45 PM
I think we could see prices stagnate or potentially drop this summer as clubs deal with ongoing financial stress from the pandemic.

Can't see paying 40 million pounds for this level of player but maybe I'm wrong. Obviously would improve us but if they don't need to sell and demand that high a price I don't see why we wouldn't look elsewhere for better value.

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: stirlingblue on February 24, 2021, 08:45:34 PM
Clubs also just charge premier league teams more as they know how much money is in the league.

The likes of Maehle is the type of player you see go for £15-£20m if weíre buying vs £10m for Atalanta

Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: formerKHL on February 24, 2021, 09:48:49 PM
clubs will always over inflate an assett that they see the potential to over inflate...

norwich have just seen godfrey come to us for £25mill and basically take off value wise....any other player with that potential they'll treat as once bitten twice shy...(or greedy)...value him at 30-40 and settle on around 25-28...maybe with add ons
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Confucius on February 25, 2021, 09:00:41 PM
Are there any really good right backs in world football compared to left backs? Just seems like there is a lack of quality there.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Robioto on February 25, 2021, 09:11:02 PM
Are there any really good right backs in world football compared to left backs? Just seems like there is a lack of quality there.

Me and my mates been discussing this recently and it does seem like there is a shortage. To be fair England along with Aarons probably have three of the most promising in Europe with Alexander-Arnold (I know he's been shit recently) and Reece James - then Aaron Wan-Bissaka is very good defensively and James Justin is good too.

Others off the top of my head would be Dest, Mukiele and maybe Frimpong? There's not a lot of obvious young up and coming players at RB, but my knowledge of European football isn't what it once was.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Confucius on February 25, 2021, 09:12:21 PM
Even top tier teams donít have very good right backs. TAA is one though. Even City with Walker, not top tier.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: BlueForYou on February 25, 2021, 09:22:51 PM
RBs: Aarons, Coleman

CBs: Keane, Mina, Branthwaite

LBs: Digne, Nkounkou

UtilityBacks: Godfrey, Holgate

A decent squad of defenders

Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bluedylan on February 25, 2021, 09:28:10 PM
Even top tier teams donít have very good right backs. TAA is one though. Even City with Walker, not top tier.

It's Cancelo now. And he's brilliant.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bob Sacamano on February 25, 2021, 09:38:53 PM
Lefties are better in general.

Always thought Beckham played like a right footed lefty.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on February 25, 2021, 11:17:32 PM
RBs: Aarons, Coleman

CBs: Keane, Mina, Branthwaite

LBs: Digne, Nkounkou

UtilityBacks: Godfrey, Holgate

A decent squad of defenders

You have Branthwaite and Godfrey in the wrong spots.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: kerryblue boy on February 25, 2021, 11:20:16 PM
What about that Aina at Fulham looks a good player
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on February 25, 2021, 11:25:20 PM
Celik at Lille.
Calabria at Milan.
James at Chelsea.
Lamptey at Brighton.
Dumfries at Eindhoven.

That's just a few, albeit some are probably unavailable. But there are right backs out there not named Aarons.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Old England Toffee on February 25, 2021, 11:33:14 PM
You have Branthwaite and Godfrey in the wrong spots.
He means utility as in a utility player - a player who can perform different roles. Hes not saying theyre second string.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Robioto on February 25, 2021, 11:36:00 PM
Forgot about Lampety, England really do have a lot of promising talent at the moment. Not quite a "Golden Generation", but certainly an array of players that could win something.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on February 25, 2021, 11:42:30 PM
Forgot about Lampety, England really do have a lot of promising talent at the moment. Not quite a "Golden Generation", but certainly an array of players that could win something.

(I only remembered him because I just bought him in my FM save lol)
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 26, 2021, 12:14:48 AM
Your left back is a maestro at free kicks and penalties, he's cultured, amongst the most stylish at the club

Your right back is a work horse, he can fill in at centre back if needs be and he hardly ever scores

In my mind every team is like this

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 26, 2021, 12:17:01 AM
Forgot about Lampety, England really do have a lot of promising talent at the moment. Not quite a "Golden Generation", but certainly an array of players that could win something.

Not with Southgate as manager.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: TheRam on February 26, 2021, 12:23:31 AM
Dennis Irwin was a great little left back that never really gets talked about but he was the ultimate goalscoring full back at United when I was growing up.

Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Old England Toffee on February 26, 2021, 12:32:06 AM
Forgot about Lampety, England really do have a lot of promising talent at the moment. Not quite a "Golden Generation", but certainly an array of players that could win something.
Remember watching a program about Englandís greatest ever teams. Got to right back and everyone is thinking surely weíve had someone better than Gary Neville in the whole history of England football team... hopefully one of the current crop will become that player. But strange we (England) have struggled for RB and LW for so long
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Waltzer on February 26, 2021, 12:38:13 AM
Celik at Lille.
Calabria at Milan.
James at Chelsea.
Lamptey at Brighton.
Dumfries at Eindhoven.

That's just a few, albeit some are probably unavailable. But there are right backs out there not named Aarons.
I'm still to be convinced of Lamptey tbh, got potential and is fast as fuck, but I think his prominent 'skillset' is he's fast as fuck, over anything else

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on February 26, 2021, 12:51:05 AM
I'm still to be convinced of Lamptey tbh, got potential and is fast as fuck, but I think his prominent 'skillset' is he's fast as fuck, over anything else

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Heís a wingback, not a fullback. Itís assumed theyíre the same position these days, but thereís definitely a distinction.


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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: BlueForYou on February 26, 2021, 01:01:30 AM
Cheers, Old England Toffee!

Utility, lost in Anglo-American translation, YankeeBlue214!

Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: ajax_andy on February 26, 2021, 01:13:48 AM
Dennis Irwin was a great little left back that never really gets talked about but he was the ultimate goalscoring full back at United when I was growing up.



Irwin was absolute quality, pretty sure he was two footed wasn't he? Absolutely brilliant player.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: TheRam on February 26, 2021, 01:24:17 AM
Irwin was absolute quality, pretty sure he was two footed wasn't he? Absolutely brilliant player.

Part of me was wondering if he was a right back so I think youíre right.

What about Ian Harte. He could ping them.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: velimski on February 26, 2021, 01:27:45 AM
Irwin was very good. Equally comfortable at right back or left back. A bit like Philip Lahm.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bob Sacamano on February 26, 2021, 01:32:25 AM
Part of me was wondering if he was a right back so I think youíre right.

What about Ian Harte. He could ping them.

That mutt was a lefty
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: TheRam on February 26, 2021, 01:35:22 AM
That mutt was a lefty

I know. Weíre talking left backs here arenít we?

Baines
Cole
Irwin
Harte
Evra

Top five premier league left backs

I canít really think of any great right backs to go back to stealths point.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bob Sacamano on February 26, 2021, 01:37:35 AM
I know. Weíre talking left backs here arenít we?

Baines
Cole
Irwin
Harte
Evra

Top five premier league left backs

I canít really think of any great right backs to go back to stealths point.

Yeah I must have got mixed up.

You could reel off lefties for days and still not be halfway down the list. They just seem to have a different way of striking a ball. I said earlier that Beckham always reminded me of a lefty. Itís that mad angle his body took up when striking the ball I think.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: velimski on February 26, 2021, 01:42:42 AM
Was Harte really that good?

Could take a free kick but was incredibly slow.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bluedylan on February 26, 2021, 01:49:45 AM
Bit more from Romano -

He said: ďEverton are now working to sign Max Aarons, they want a new right-back. Heís doing great work at Norwich and we are talking about potentially one of the future right-backs for England.

ďEverton are working to sign him Ė theyíre interested, they have a list and, on this list, Max Aarons is one of their favourites as a right-back. They are signing a new right-back [this] summer and letís see if they can pay because Norwich are asking for around Ä35-40 million, so itís not an easy situation.

ďManchester United [are] scouting him and interested in the situation but [there has been] no contact at the moment. Everton are pushing because they want the player, so, keep an eye on him because he will be one of the names of the summer.Ē
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on February 26, 2021, 01:51:55 AM
One fullback who I donít think would make it in todayís game is Gary Neville. I donít think the whole ďI wasnít quick, I wasnít technical, but I had heartĒ thing, wouldnít wash, imo. Heíd be a steady, mid-table player.


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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: GLewis on February 26, 2021, 01:58:41 AM
Was Harte really that good?

Could take a free kick but was incredibly slow.

Yeah was only good for a short period too Iíd say.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bluedylan on February 26, 2021, 01:59:18 AM
There definitely haven't been loads of amazing Prem right backs. Younger Zabaleta was really good. In terms other really good ones, a lot of them are more defensive like G Neville and Ivanovic. Just looking at pure quality on the ball, comparable to some of those LBs, you'd probably have to put TAA in the mix. Not many to choose from.

And then in the wider world game, kinda backing up Ram's point about left backs being more class ands right backs being more about engines, the best ones I can think of are Cafu, Dani Alves and Lahm, all terrorising up and down the flank. More express trains than artists.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Confucius on February 26, 2021, 02:06:33 AM
It's Cancelo now. And he's brilliant.

Isnít Cancelo their LB? Or does he just go where he wants generally?
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Confucius on February 26, 2021, 02:11:39 AM
Loved Roberto Carlos too. Was just mad but adds to the great left back debate.

Didnít Lahm play left back more than right.

One of the best German players ever
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Confucius on February 26, 2021, 02:12:58 AM
I always think that left backs are better than right backs because most players are right footed so easier to pass to your left. So they grow up with more practice crossing and running onto through balls.

Thatís my theory anyway.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bluedylan on February 26, 2021, 02:13:14 AM
Isnít Cancelo their LB? Or does he just go where he wants generally?

He has played LB during his time there, but he'made the RB his own this season, and in full hipster, Pep mode he's an inverted RB who comes into central midfield and overloads, and he's probably better than most central midfielders in the league on the ball. The bugger.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Confucius on February 26, 2021, 02:14:00 AM
He has played LB during his time there, but he'made the RB his own this season, and in full hipster, Pep mode he's an inverted RB who comes into central midfield and overloads, and he's probably better than most central midfielders in the league on the ball. The bugger.

Yeah, he is ridiculously good
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: GLewis on February 26, 2021, 02:15:00 AM
He has played LB during his time there, but he'made the RB his own this season, and in full hipster, Pep mode he's an inverted RB who comes into central midfield and overloads, and he's probably better than most central midfielders in the league on the ball. The bugger.

Heís been playing LB in the big games Iíve thought with Walker at RB.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bluedylan on February 26, 2021, 02:24:49 AM
Heís been playing LB in the big games Iíve thought with Walker at RB.

I've only see him LB the odd time to be fair, and a lot on the right, but just looked and apparently 15 at RB and 10 at LB, so more of an even split than I realised, fair play.

Do think he's much more of a natural RB though when I saw him at Juve and the odd time for Portugal. And I half wonder if Pep didn't trust Zinchenko and wanted to get both Cancelo and Walker in the team initially.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: cantoffee on February 26, 2021, 02:24:53 AM
Zambrotta lads come on, brilliant RB and played on the left as well.

Not many in the prem era though that have really stood out. Only one I can think of that's not been mentioned is maybe Lauren for Arsenal? Was quite good if I remember correctly.

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: TheRam on February 26, 2021, 02:31:31 AM
Zambrotta lads come on, brilliant RB and played on the left as well.

Not many in the prem era though that have really stood out. Only one I can think of that's not been mentioned is maybe Lauren for Arsenal? Was quite good if I remember correctly.

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Oh thatís a great shout.

Lauren was very good. Was a midfielder before arsenal signed him as well.

Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: ajax_andy on February 26, 2021, 02:33:19 AM
Part of me was wondering if he was a right back so I think youíre right.

What about Ian Harte. He could ping them.

Yeah I have a feeling he played either side of the defence, could hit a quality free kick too.

Aye Ian Hart had a great left leg on him!
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cassius on February 26, 2021, 02:44:46 AM
You fuckers all overlooking Tony Hibbert.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Trowel on February 26, 2021, 03:09:30 AM
Ivanovic was a quality RB - could bomb forward, but was a genuine hard tackling bastard.

How has Maldini not had a shout for best left back in the world yet BTW... 🤔
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Robioto on February 26, 2021, 03:14:37 AM
Cafu is probably my favourite player of all time, well definitely one of them. He was incredible. I was a right back and I was in complete awe if him and used to pretend I was him in the playground/garden. He was so fit, got up and down, was all over that right side. What a player.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: BlueForYou on February 26, 2021, 03:17:30 AM
The best ever British full backs:

RB: Danny McGrain

LB: Ray Wilson
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bluenose 91 on February 26, 2021, 03:21:02 AM
Gary Neville was really good I think and still would be in todays game.

Could get up and down, put in a great cross and defend well too.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: GLewis on February 26, 2021, 04:17:18 AM
Gary Neville was really good I think and still would be in todays game.

Could get up and down, put in a great cross and defend well too.

Yeah would be similar to Azpilicueta
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Paddockoldie on February 26, 2021, 04:36:17 AM
I know it's sacrilege to say this, but Chris Nichol was a good player... very underrated. Gary Steven was a quality RB too.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Sixx1402 on February 26, 2021, 04:45:16 AM
I know it's sacrilege to say this, but Chris Nichol was a good player... very underrated. Gary Steven was a quality RB too.
You mean Steve Nicol?

Liverpool full back
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: TheRam on February 26, 2021, 04:52:52 AM
Gary Neville was really good I think and still would be in todays game.

Could get up and down, put in a great cross and defend well too.

Great player. Him and beckham on that right hand side were great.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: brap2 on February 26, 2021, 05:09:26 AM
I liked bosingwa
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Toddacelli on February 26, 2021, 02:16:12 PM
How has Maldini not had a shout for best left back in the world yet BTW... 🤔

Dunno - but he is probably my favourite ever player. His pairing with Baresi was something else. You had more chance of getting past Gandalf.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Trowel on February 26, 2021, 02:37:19 PM
Loved Roberto Carlos too. Was just mad but adds to the great left back debate.
😂
https://twitter.com/MirrorFootball/status/1365218168512389122
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Robioto on February 26, 2021, 02:44:35 PM
😂
https://twitter.com/MirrorFootball/status/1365218168512389122

To counter that he also did ridiculous shit like this. He did that three times in his career to prove it wasn't a fluke:




Loved Roberto Carlos, was always my first buy on Master League on ISS and the early Pro Evolution Soccer games, I used to stick him up front for that 99 shot power!
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bluedylan on February 26, 2021, 02:54:22 PM
Used to like Vincent Candela as well (think he was at Roma at the same time as Cafu).

And Lizarazu was quality.

How have we not mentioned the man, the legend that is Javier Zanetti for the right backs? What a player.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: sam of the south on February 26, 2021, 03:04:47 PM
Lilian Thuram.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Paddockoldie on February 26, 2021, 03:51:09 PM
You mean Steve Nicol?

Liverpool full back

Ha ha... I do indeed. My error... also Dennis Irwin for United... or was it Menace??
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Jamokachi on February 26, 2021, 03:54:21 PM
Dani Alves up there as a modern instalment, though you wouldn't describe his style as cultured.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Toffee1 on February 26, 2021, 03:57:51 PM
Used to like Vincent Candela as well (think he was at Roma at the same time as Cafu).

And Lizarazu was quality.

How have we not mentioned the man, the legend that is Javier Zanetti for the right backs? What a player.

Shows how sad I am, that I remember one of his first games for Inter (it was when Channel 4 showed them live) and he played in midfield that day. Seemed to be around forever, as you post, a very, very good player and professional.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Toffee1 on February 26, 2021, 10:28:55 PM
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1365329901415505923
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Robioto on February 26, 2021, 10:33:15 PM
It's definitely on then, so it will probably comes down to the player and what the other clubs offer him. I think it is unlikely he'll come to us with this calibre of team sniffing around, but possible. We definitely have some decent cards to play.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 26, 2021, 10:34:43 PM
So we're already down from £40m to Ä35m, so about £30m.

At that price, i'm expecting them to be paying us money by the time Brands is through with them.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bob Sacamano on February 26, 2021, 10:38:05 PM
Brands tends to get good deals so Iím comfortable paying what we end up paying. Like with our Brazilian hitman, Iím fine paying like £30m for an up and comer that will be boss then sell for a profit when the time is right.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Toffee1 on February 26, 2021, 10:39:29 PM
It's definitely on then, so it will probably comes down to the player and what the other clubs offer him. I think it is unlikely he'll come to us with this calibre of team sniffing around, but possible. We definitely have some decent cards to play.

Get European football and the fact he would be playing for one of the greatest managers of this and many generations, combined with how well Godfrey has done, will be big pluses in our favour.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bluedylan on February 26, 2021, 10:40:03 PM
Reckon Godfrey's probably singing our praises too, and that sort of thing could help to swing it.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: dazfrancis on February 26, 2021, 10:43:28 PM
You hope that his ex teammate has settled straight in here really quickly, the opportunity to work with the manager is a big pull and he will pretty much be guaranteed the fight back spot in the first XI will mean we will we be  his number one choice.

Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Waltzer on February 26, 2021, 10:49:12 PM
I try not to focus on the finances as there are too many things that play into it, but on the face of it id be pretty gutted if we paid 30+ for him, but I'm sure it wouldn't last to long as having a competent, attacking right back is massively needed so who cares if we pay over the odds

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on February 26, 2021, 10:55:02 PM
I try not to focus on the finances as there are too many things that play into it, but on the face of it id be pretty gutted if we paid 30+ for him, but I'm sure it wouldn't last to long as having a competent, attacking right back is massively needed so who cares if we pay over the odds

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Yep, potentially our RB for the next 10 years or so.


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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Gary1878 on February 26, 2021, 11:07:41 PM
Lilian Thuram.

When I think of Right Backs I instantly think of Thuram and France 98. Just a brilliant player.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Gary1878 on February 26, 2021, 11:13:34 PM
This would be a top buy. Really quick, attacking, full blooded right back. And so young - 21 years old. You can afford to pay a bit over the odds as you know you will have him for +10 years, or for 5 years, and still an excellent sell on value.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Robioto on February 26, 2021, 11:26:35 PM
When I think of Right Backs I instantly think of Thuram and France 98. Just a brilliant player.

Fun fact, he only scored 2 goals for France and both were in that semi final. He must have had well over 100 caps too.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bluedylan on February 26, 2021, 11:28:41 PM
Yep, potentially our RB for the next 10 years or so.


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Exactly. You either enjoy him for 5 years and turn him over for a good profit, or keep him for 10 years (in theory).

What seems obvious is that we're trying to put together a generation of players who might all peak around the same time, if they stay together with us, and if they continue to develop - DCL, Richarlison, Tom Davies, Godfrey, possibly Moise Kean, possibly Aarons. You could even include Iwobi and Holgate in that group potentially.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cozzie on February 27, 2021, 01:54:49 AM
Exactly. You either enjoy him for 5 years and turn him over for a good profit, or keep him for 10 years (in theory).

What seems obvious is that we're trying to put together a generation of players who might all peak around the same time, if they stay together with us, and if they continue to develop - DCL, Richarlison, Tom Davies, Godfrey, possibly Moise Kean, possibly Aarons. You could even include Iwobi and Holgate in that group potentially.

Absolutely bonkers Iwobi is still only 24.

Feels as though he has been around for ages.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cereal Killer on February 27, 2021, 03:16:47 AM
Surely the United links are bullshit, they spend about £50m on Wan-Bissaka last year? Year before?
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Waltzer on February 27, 2021, 03:28:22 AM
Surely the United links are bullshit, they spend about £50m on Wan-Bissaka last year? Year before?
I'd think so and he hasn't done that bad either

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Trowel on February 27, 2021, 04:16:22 AM
https://twitter.com/paulgefc79/status/1365358836983476227
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: brap2 on February 27, 2021, 04:39:07 AM
I'd think so and he hasn't done that bad either

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Not their long term right back, bad buy.

They don't need a shut out full back that tackles everything that moves...they should have 60-70% of the ball or more, not worrying about what's coming the other way.

This is the modern game where fullbacks contribute more to the attacking side of the game than ever, especially in a top team...wan bissaka ain't that.

The games against us for palace were outstanding I thought, literally bodying people, couldn't get round him. But being super defensive with nothing going forward doesn't scale to a bigger team.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: brap2 on February 27, 2021, 04:39:41 AM
Also I still don't really know anything about aarons. Feels expenny but I dunno.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Goaljira on February 27, 2021, 04:48:07 AM
Gary Kelly was good for Leeds.  Zabaletta was good at City.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cereal Killer on February 27, 2021, 05:10:57 AM
https://twitter.com/paulgefc79/status/1365358836983476227

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Brownie on February 27, 2021, 05:56:47 AM
Bill reporting that Bayern and U tied both cooling their interest due to the price being quoted
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Gash on February 27, 2021, 06:23:06 AM
Bill reporting that Bayern and U tied both cooling their interest due to the price being quoted

Got to hand it to Kenwright, dripping info to the media to drive the price down. :)
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Waltzer on February 27, 2021, 01:37:04 PM
https://twitter.com/paulgefc79/status/1365358836983476227
Jeez of we had him and James on the right you might as well kiss goodbye to the right hand side, we would get exposed massively

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bob Sacamano on February 27, 2021, 02:04:40 PM
Yep. Thatís deffo how tactics work.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: stirlingblue on February 27, 2021, 02:24:00 PM
Jeez of we had him and James on the right you might as well kiss goodbye to the right hand side, we would get exposed massively

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Depends how to build the rest of the team.

Liverpool have two attacking fullbacks and a front three but they can get away with it because if two things:

A hardworking forward line to counter press - DCL and Richarlison are definitely capable of this.

Three workhorse CMs rather than technical/creative ones - Davies, Allan and Doucourť could do this.

Not saying itís what we should do, but itís certainly viable with our squad in a 4-3-1-2 and gets our best players in their most effective areas of the pitch so in attack youíd have:

            Richarlison     DCL
Digne              James           Aarons
        Allan                    Doucourť
                      Davies
            Godfrey     Mina
                      Pickford

And in defence:

Richarlison         DCL          James

        Allan.     Davies.    Doucourť

Digne    Godfrey    Mina.     Aarons

                      Pickford
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: TheRam on February 27, 2021, 02:29:11 PM
Jeez of we had him and James on the right you might as well kiss goodbye to the right hand side, we would get exposed massively

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Heís one of the best players in the championship. That Norwich team is probably built all around getting him in good positions.

Itíll be different here. Plus a right back vacated the space, you should have somebody sitting and covering.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Free Agent on February 27, 2021, 03:05:17 PM
I suppose Tom just slides across to cover when RB goes on a marauding run. The important thing is to not have both FBs up in the final third at the same time.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: sam of the south on February 27, 2021, 03:51:29 PM
I suppose Tom just slides across to cover when RB goes on a marauding run. The important thing is to not have both FBs up in the final third at the same time.

Aw, but itís great when you have Coleman to Oviedo as your Old Trafford winner
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Danny on February 27, 2021, 04:46:26 PM
James will have a field day if we can get the full backs bombing on in wide positions, it's too easy for teams to stay narrow against us and harry him but they won't be able to if we have a balanced threat on both sides.

It's also exciting to see we're apparently making moves very early in the window, given this will be the first window with Brands with the shackles of the previous regime well and truly off.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Brownie on February 27, 2021, 05:03:59 PM
Got to hand it to Kenwright, dripping info to the media to drive the price down. :)

He has his uses (youíd think by now I would learn to proof read what I post).
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: cantoffee on February 28, 2021, 01:19:29 AM
Aw, but it's great when you have Coleman to Oviedo as your Old Trafford winner
That was Lukaku to Oviedo!

Although we did have at least a couple Baines to Coleman goals.

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: sam of the south on February 28, 2021, 01:45:12 AM
That was Lukaku to Oviedo!

Although we did have at least a couple Baines to Coleman goals.

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Oh really, mustíve remembered it wrong.

I remember the finish, and the passage of play after our free-kick.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Old England Toffee on February 28, 2021, 03:39:13 AM
Oh really, mustíve remembered it wrong.

I remember the finish, and the passage of play after our free-kick.
yeah I remembered it like that as well. Mandela effect haha. must have been another goal I def remember one where it was full back to full back
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Dr. Sponge on February 28, 2021, 04:03:35 AM
yeah I remembered it like that as well. Mandela effect haha. must have been another goal I def remember one where it was full back to full back
Did Coleman pull it back to Lukaku?
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: sam of the south on February 28, 2021, 04:15:38 AM
Did Coleman pull it back to Lukaku?

Yeah, I think it got cut out, then went to Lukaku, but what do I know.

I think I thought it was Coleman to Oviedo because the press were lauding Martinez for having both full-backs attacking in the 86th minute at Old Trafford, but ya know, it had been a free-kick, and the wheels would fall off from his possession without purpose soon enough.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cozzie on February 28, 2021, 04:18:22 AM
Bayern apparently pulled out of the race to sign him.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: bornblue88 on February 28, 2021, 08:01:47 AM
Iím not saying he couldnít turn his Xa into real assists for us but I seem to remember Iwobi having a great Xa for Arsenal, so Iím taking it with a pinch of salt. He certainly has the physical attributes weíre looking for anyway though
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Simon Paul on March 01, 2021, 12:51:34 AM
I'm not saying he couldn't turn his Xa into real assists for us but I seem to remember Iwobi having a great Xa for Arsenal, so I'm taking it with a pinch of salt. He certainly has the physical attributes we're looking for anyway though
It's the idea balls we need mate
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: sam of the south on March 01, 2021, 02:00:25 AM
It's the idea balls we need mate

That is a great term
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: bornblue88 on March 01, 2021, 02:36:10 AM
It's the idea balls we need mate

I thought it was calculated on the positions you get in rather than whether a striker should score a chance created. I might have just made that up though

Edit: ok it seems to be both plus a few other factors. Iíd like to see a breakdown though because it could be that he gets into fantastic positions all day but has poor end product. We could end up with the next Deandre Yedlin if weíre not careful
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: brap2 on March 01, 2021, 03:50:15 AM
I thought it was calculated on the positions you get in rather than whether a striker should score a chance created. I might have just made that up though

Edit: ok it seems to be both plus a few other factors. Iíd like to see a breakdown though because it could be that he gets into fantastic positions all day but has poor end product. We could end up with the next Deandre Yedlin if weíre not careful

I think it's the xg produced as a result of his passes. Where the striker or whoever has taken a shot from as a direct result of his ball in.

So for example James has 4.57 for us, and 4 Assists.

I don't know that much about Max Aarons, I've seen some of his numbers here and there, he seems to get in the box a lot, he seems to be putting the ball on attackers toes plenty, and obviously if we drop that alone into our side it feels like it would be massive for us.

But sidibie produced some attacking numbers for us and he was a bit of a nightmare tbh so you know.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: cantoffee on March 01, 2021, 06:12:51 AM
I think it's the xg produced as a result of his passes. Where the striker or whoever has taken a shot from as a direct result of his ball in.

So for example James has 4.57 for us, and 4 Assists.

I don't know that much about Max Aarons, I've seen some of his numbers here and there, he seems to get in the box a lot, he seems to be putting the ball on attackers toes plenty, and obviously if we drop that alone into our side it feels like it would be massive for us.

But sidibie produced some attacking numbers for us and he was a bit of a nightmare tbh so you know.
Sidibe and Coleman worked ok together though because you could have Sidibe in the team against weaker opposition. Was still an absolute liability at the back but I don't mind getting a younger version of him with plenty of room to improve.

Not sure it's worth 30 or 40 million or whatever but oh well.

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Danny on March 02, 2021, 01:58:45 AM
I think it's the xg produced as a result of his passes. Where the striker or whoever has taken a shot from as a direct result of his ball in.

So for example James has 4.57 for us, and 4 Assists.

I don't know that much about Max Aarons, I've seen some of his numbers here and there, he seems to get in the box a lot, he seems to be putting the ball on attackers toes plenty, and obviously if we drop that alone into our side it feels like it would be massive for us.

But sidibie produced some attacking numbers for us and he was a bit of a nightmare tbh so you know.

If Sidibe was 21 I'd have wanted us to make it permanent.
Title: Max Aarons
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on March 02, 2021, 04:39:40 AM
Much needed, this lad. You can see where the holes are in the team.


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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cozzie on March 02, 2021, 04:42:05 AM
He would certainly be more progressive at RB.

In fairness though Holgate isn't one.

We've needed to sort right back out for a while now.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bluedylan on March 02, 2021, 12:06:10 PM
Maybe if we are moving Moise Kean on, we'll be able to at least get our money back, which would mean that would could bring Max Aarons in without any real net outlay. That would be a really good start to the summer.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: mikey_blue on March 02, 2021, 12:30:48 PM
Maybe if we are moving Moise Kean on, we'll be able to at least get our money back, which would mean that would could bring Max Aarons in without any real net outlay. That would be a really good start to the summer.

Thereís a new Net Spend FC in town!
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: sam of the south on March 02, 2021, 09:34:58 PM
Anyone know if heís any good defensively?

Or is he just a threat going forward?
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: sam of the south on March 02, 2021, 09:37:41 PM
Ah, there are a few moments in this


Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Silas on March 03, 2021, 12:39:42 AM
Not sold on him but reckon Everton could mould him think there's better value but he would certainly improve us
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Danny on March 05, 2021, 04:04:56 AM
Ah, there are a few moments in this



He's got the feint's of a young Seamus Coleman, I'm completely sold on him. It just feels like we're making the central midfield more solid with Doucoure and Allan vs the more lightweight ball players and pushing the speed and attack in general onto the wing.

It feels like the first time we've had a proper direction since Moyes left.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Toddacelli on March 06, 2021, 08:30:25 PM
Clearly taking the piss at that level.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Danny on March 29, 2021, 08:46:22 PM
Romano has tweeted in reply to a blue asking if there is any Everton news to keep an eye on Max Aarons.

Sounds like one weíre trying to wrap up early.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: sam of the south on March 29, 2021, 10:52:21 PM
Anyone know what his stats are like?
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Sir Stealth on March 29, 2021, 11:33:33 PM
Anyone know what his stats are like?
1 goal and 3 assists in 38 league games so far this season

Not getting me overly excited attacking wise!though may not tell the full story. I guess they are top of the league so he's potentially doing something right

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Waltzer on March 30, 2021, 12:04:26 AM
1 goal and 3 assists in 38 league games so far this season

Not getting me overly excited attacking wise!though may not tell the full story. I guess they are top of the league so he's potentially doing something right

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He'd be a significant step up from Holgate or Coleman, although I appreciate that isn't that hard. It all comes down to price for me, if they go back up they'll want a fortune and I suspect there is much better business to be done than him, time will tell

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cereal Killer on March 30, 2021, 12:45:55 AM
1 goal and 3 assists in 38 league games so far this season

Not getting me overly excited attacking wise!though may not tell the full story. I guess they are top of the league so he's potentially doing something right

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I mean, for a team flying at the top of the table and scoring loads of goals youíd hope heíd have done a bit more 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: kerryblue boy on March 30, 2021, 12:46:52 AM
He'd be a significant step up from Holgate or Coleman, although I appreciate that isn't that hard. It all comes down to price for me, if they go back up they'll want a fortune and I suspect there is much better business to be done than him, time will tell

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You love having little digs at Seamus Aarons is not good enough IMO
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Waltzer on March 30, 2021, 01:05:15 AM
You love having little digs at Seamus Aarons is not good enough IMO
Nothing personal, I love everything about Seamus as an individual and what he's done for us. He's not good enough now,  which is a shame, but I'd rather remember him as the dependable, rampaging defender he was, rather than what he's turning into, that's all.
You may be right about Aaron's, I haven't watched enough of Norwich to comment, but imo it wouldn't be hard to be better than the current Coleman

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on March 30, 2021, 01:10:58 AM
Assists is one of the most misleading stats - itís all about chance creation.


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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Sir Stealth on March 30, 2021, 01:13:34 AM
Assists is one of the most misleading stats - it's all about chance creation.


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Yeah sorry I was just posting the basic stats. From the highlights I've seen of him he does like to burst forward and looks rapid, this could help us get up the pitch quicker and pin teams back

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on March 30, 2021, 01:17:35 AM
It does seem a bit of a lazy one, although if thereís talent on your doorstep, then why not go for it?

He knows the league and especially with Godfrey here, should hit the ground running.

He certainly fits the profile of the modern fullback.

I struggle to believe thereís not better value out there for the supposed £30m+, but youíd like to think the club have balanced risk/reward.


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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cods on March 30, 2021, 07:02:40 AM
I like what I see going forward. He looks a bit lightweight though. How does he go tackling? Anything like his Ďbig brotherí Godfrey would be great.
Digne and Seamus are both pretty strong defensively.
Iíve hardly seen Wan Bissaka play since he joined united, but thought someone with his attributes would be a good signing.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: TheRam on April 15, 2021, 05:17:22 PM
Joyce confirms our interests and says we'll look to get the £30m asking price down.

Looks like this one will happen then. Happy with that.

More pace and energy.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bluedylan on April 15, 2021, 05:20:18 PM
Would be really nice to get one ticked off before the season ends, so we can crack on with other business.

Really hoping the club is prepared to have a big spend this summer.

Rumoured to be asking for £46m for Moise Kean (or a part exchange with Rabiot or Demiral), so there should be plenty in the coffers, with quite a few stragglers off the books.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 15, 2021, 05:22:24 PM
Good replacement for Coleman this
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 15, 2021, 05:24:14 PM
Oooooohhhhh itís starting! I absolutely love this part of the game.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Macca77 on April 15, 2021, 05:33:50 PM
Joyce confirms our interests and says we'll look to get the £30m asking price down.

Looks like this one will happen then. Happy with that.

More pace and energy.

Nobody cares Paul

Don't have my notifications on for this Paul

Etc.....
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Waltzer on April 15, 2021, 05:38:41 PM
Torn on this one. Would be a great addition and improve the right back area, but given the other areas that need improving spending 30 million on a right back seems excessive, especially when it looks like money might be a bit tight? I know the article says we'll look to negotiate a lower fee, but it won't be much as Norwich have no need to sell.
It is a massively important area and we need to get the right player, so if Carlo thinks he's the man I'm all in, I just think the squad has so many gaps and issues spending a wedge on one player might not be the best?

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: TheRam on April 15, 2021, 05:42:21 PM
Torn on this one. Would be a great addition and improve the right back area, but given the other areas that need improving spending 30 million on a right back seems excessive, especially when it looks like money might be a bit tight? I know the article says we'll look to negotiate a lower fee, but it won't be much as Norwich have no need to sell.
It is a massively important area and we need to get the right player, so if Carlo thinks he's the man I'm all in, I just think the squad has so many gaps and issues spending a wedge on one player might not be the best?

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Right back is the number one priority and should've been for the last three years.

I imagine the fee will be around £25m which isnt that much, and we're adding a young, dynamic player that could be our right back for the next ten years or so.

There's no downside to this signing.  It ticks all the boxes.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Waltzer on April 15, 2021, 05:44:05 PM
Right back is the number one priority and should've been for the last three years.

I imagine the fee will be around £25m which isnt that much, and we're adding a young, dynamic player that could be our right back for the next ten years or so.

There's no downside to this signing.  It ticks all the boxes.
I do agree in principle and like I always say to others 'its not my money', but the squad needs so much work it's scary

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bluedylan on April 15, 2021, 05:48:30 PM
Torn on this one. Would be a great addition and improve the right back area, but given the other areas that need improving spending 30 million on a right back seems excessive, especially when it looks like money might be a bit tight? I know the article says we'll look to negotiate a lower fee, but it won't be much as Norwich have no need to sell.
It is a massively important area and we need to get the right player, so if Carlo thinks he's the man I'm all in, I just think the squad has so many gaps and issues spending a wedge on one player might not be the best?

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It can't be understated how significant full back/wing back is in the modern game, with the numbers of inside forwards who step inside onto their stronger foot, leaving the space outside of them, taken up by the attacking full back.

This was the case 5 years ago, but it's even more the case today.

Look at the other lot. Almost none of their build up comes through midfield. It comes through the full backs, as the spare overlapping men.

Massively important that we get this signing right. If we had James out right, or Leon Bailey even, and you had Aarons bombing past him with a great engine and genuine quality on the ball, it would take our play up a couple of levels.

Obviously we still need to address other areas too, but £30m or thereabouts to nail down a key position for potentially 5 years plus is nothing.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: TheRam on April 15, 2021, 05:49:51 PM
I do agree in principle and like I always say to others 'its not my money', but the squad needs so much work it's scary

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How many players do you think we need?

A right back, left winger and another CM would improve us massively without having to address other areas.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cozzie on April 15, 2021, 05:51:03 PM
Yeah no chance it will be £30M.

Brands if anything is a great negotiator for this.

I wonder if they will accept cash plus JJK?

We want him off the books they get a decent-ish right back with dough to buy another one.

Should be a good summer this, always been keen on Aarons so be good if we could get it done early.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: cantoffee on April 15, 2021, 06:01:58 PM
Surprised everyone is so confident we'll get him for a good price.

They are definitely coming back up and I can't see why they'd need to sell.

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Waltzer on April 15, 2021, 06:03:26 PM


How many players do you think we need?

A right back, left winger and another CM would improve us massively without having to address other areas.

A right back, centre midfield, right and left winger as priorities. But ideally I think we need a better centre back, another keeper and another striker if we really want to compete. But I agree the areas you mentioned will make us a lot better and would be areas of target too

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 15, 2021, 06:45:12 PM
A RB should be at the top the list with no exceptions. Imagine watching a 63yr old Coleman with Holgate as backup then moaning that weíre not going to finish in a European spot.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on April 15, 2021, 06:55:39 PM
Yeah, hopefully we get this one nailed early.

I agree with all the above; and value is certainly paramount, but £30m seems fair. Norwich have all the leverage with this one.

Iím confident we will, but if we canít pull off a deal like this or afford it, then what are the club/Moshiri actually trying achieve?


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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cozzie on April 15, 2021, 07:10:06 PM
Surprised everyone is so confident we'll get him for a good price.

They are definitely coming back up and I can't see why they'd need to sell.

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Trust me when brands is done negotiating they will be paying us to take him.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: blargins on April 15, 2021, 07:17:08 PM
Right back is the number one priority and should've been for the last three years.

I imagine the fee will be around £25m which isnt that much, and we're adding a young, dynamic player that could be our right back for the next ten years or so.

There's no downside to this signing.  It ticks all the boxes.

We paid that for Godfrey of course. On board with this. Young and pacey. Hopefully we can get this done quickly to move onto bolstering that midfield and attack.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Dr. Sponge on April 15, 2021, 07:29:48 PM
Surprised everyone is so confident we'll get him for a good price.

They are definitely coming back up and I can't see why they'd need to sell.

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Could be this price because of how long is left on his contract. Last 2 years is it?
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: cantoffee on April 15, 2021, 07:54:55 PM
Could be this price because of how long is left on his contract. Last 2 years is it?
2024 so still a long time to go.

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Danny on April 15, 2021, 08:34:26 PM
It can't be understated how significant full back/wing back is in the modern game, with the numbers of inside forwards who step inside onto their stronger foot, leaving the space outside of them, taken up by the attacking full back.

This was the case 5 years ago, but it's even more the case today.

Look at the other lot. Almost none of their build up comes through midfield. It comes through the full backs, as the spare overlapping men.

Massively important that we get this signing right. If we had James out right, or Leon Bailey even, and you had Aarons bombing past him with a great engine and genuine quality on the ball, it would take our play up a couple of levels.

Obviously we still need to address other areas too, but £30m or thereabouts to nail down a key position for potentially 5 years plus is nothing.

Itís actual madness how neglected the right wing has been for us for years, I actually think Coleman has delivered better performances on average than he has for the last few years.

Our whole game is wing play but weíve not bothered signing anyone decent for that side in years.

The left is going to benefit hugely from the extra space if teams have to worry about the other side as well.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: brap2 on April 15, 2021, 08:38:15 PM
I like him, 30 maybe a bit expensive but anything under then I'm very happy with. I back brands to get it down comfortably as well.

https://twitter.com/louorns/status/1382414652575993858

Would be a huge boost for us going forward, but looks like he has a way to go defensively.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 15, 2021, 08:43:20 PM
I like him, 30 maybe a bit expensive but anything under then I'm very happy with. I back brands to get it down comfortably as well.

https://twitter.com/louorns/status/1382414652575993858

Would be a huge boost for us going forward, but looks like he has a way to go defensively.

*Carlo Ancelotti has entered the chat*
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bluedylan on April 15, 2021, 08:51:15 PM
I'd also say that most of the best attacking full backs are a bit suspect defensively now. It's the trade off.

Someone like Wan Bissaka is a bit of an outlier, in being excellent defensively but not great going forward. I wouldn't be surprised to see Utd replace him eventually because they want more offensive output from their RB.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cozzie on April 15, 2021, 09:35:28 PM
I wouldn't necessarily say Digne is all that great defensively tbh but you wouldn't wanna change him.

Heard Aarons is suspect a bit positionally but that's one of the easier things to correct in a full back.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Waltzer on April 15, 2021, 09:44:48 PM
I like him, 30 maybe a bit expensive but anything under then I'm very happy with. I back brands to get it down comfortably as well.

https://twitter.com/louorns/status/1382414652575993858

Would be a huge boost for us going forward, but looks like he has a way to go defensively.
Also looks like there are about 6 other right backs in the championship that have comparable skills that you could pick up for much less?

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: dazfrancis on April 15, 2021, 10:15:10 PM
Also looks like there are about 6 other right backs in the championship that have comparable skills that you could pick up for much less?

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I was wondering who the other players are on those Images. Are they all RB's?
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 15, 2021, 10:17:18 PM
Are we ignoring how Norwich play? Donít they spend like 75mins camped in the opposing half each game? 
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Waltzer on April 15, 2021, 10:26:32 PM
I was wondering who the other players are on those Images. Are they all RB's?
Think so, Dabo and Clark are I'm pretty sure

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 15, 2021, 10:46:48 PM
Think so, Dabo and Clark are I'm pretty sure

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Who is Clark?
Who he play for?
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Waltzer on April 15, 2021, 10:50:20 PM
Who is Clark?
Who he play for?
I was assuming it was 'Joshua Joseph Jason Ishmel Clarke is an English professional footballer who plays as a right back or right winger. He is a product of the Brentford youth system and made over 80 appearances for the club'

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cereal Killer on April 16, 2021, 12:10:43 AM
Are we ignoring how Norwich play? Donít they spend like 75mins camped in the opposing half each game?

Yeah, I imagine his numbers for us would be half that as we wonít be bossing most of our games 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: brap2 on April 16, 2021, 12:26:57 AM
Yeah be full backs.

Digne isn't the best defensively but is so good with his delivery and all round on the ball ability that he could be even worse defensively and he's still be undroppable for us I reckon
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Danny on April 16, 2021, 01:41:46 AM
Yeah be full backs.

Digne isn't the best defensively but is so good with his delivery and all round on the ball ability that he could be even worse defensively and he's still be undroppable for us I reckon

Seems pretty clear this is what the aim is anyway, you make the middle very solid and push the creativity to the wing and forwards, then have a very solid and energetic midfield 3 who don't chip in with goals or assists too much.

Something like

Pickford
Aarons, Keane, Godfrey, Digne
         Doucoure Allan Gbamin
Bailey           DCL              Richarlison



Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cassius on April 16, 2021, 01:47:05 AM
I was assuming it was 'Joshua Joseph Jason Ishmel Clarke is an English professional footballer who plays as a right back or right winger. He is a product of the Brentford youth system and made over 80 appearances for the club'

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Jordan Clark, plays for Luton is 27.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: TheRam on April 16, 2021, 01:55:24 AM
Jordan Clark, plays for Luton is 27.

Sign him up.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: sam of the south on April 16, 2021, 01:59:39 AM
Jordan Clark, plays for Luton is 27.

Perfect
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: ally2 on April 16, 2021, 02:05:41 PM
Is he that good going forward though? I'm sure somebody posted his goals and assists which weren't too impressive.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Waltzer on April 16, 2021, 02:17:23 PM
Is he that good going forward though? I'm sure somebody posted his goals and assists which weren't too impressive.
1 goal and 1 assist in 40 games....

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cozzie on April 16, 2021, 02:30:41 PM
Forget about assists, it isn't his fault the strikers he sets the chances up for are shite.

Chance creation is the column you need to pay attention too, I am sure there is a graph out there for that.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Waltzer on April 16, 2021, 02:36:19 PM


Forget about assists, it isn't his fault the strikers he sets the chances up for are shite.

Chance creation is the column you need to pay attention too, I am sure there is a graph out there for that.

Norwich have scored more goals than anyone in the league with the exception of Brentford and have the biggest goal difference, I don't think it's that the strikers aren't scoring. Is there a graph showing the quality of chances he's creating if he is that high?

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cozzie on April 16, 2021, 02:42:32 PM

Norwich have scored more goals than anyone in the league with the exception of Brentford and have the biggest goal difference, I don't think it's that the strikers aren't scoring. Is there a graph showing the quality of chances he's creating if he is that high?

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I am sure there will be one showing that, I am just not the best at finding them. @brap2 (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=666) or @kramer0 (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4360) will surely pop up with one.

I just think looking at chances created is a better stat to focus on than assists alone.

He also could be along the lines of James, where he is the assist to the assister, where he may not make the actual assist but plays the main part in the creation to the goal.

His over all rapidness will also cause more problems like drawing defenders out and leaving more space for a winger or wide player, creating general havoc, if he can do that then wouldn't worry about the low assists he has. Hopefully he can change the whole dynamic of how we play.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Waltzer on April 16, 2021, 02:54:02 PM
I am sure there will be one showing that, I am just not the best at finding them. @brap2 (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=666) or @kramer0 (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4360) will surely pop up with one.

I just think looking at chances created is a better stat to focus on than assists alone.

He also could be along the lines of James, where he is the assist to the assister, where he may not make the actual assist but plays the main part in the creation to the goal.

His over all rapidness will also cause more problems like drawing defenders out and leaving more space for a winger or wide player, creating general havoc, if he can do that then wouldn't worry about the low assists he has. Hopefully he can change the whole dynamic of how we play.
I think you need to take all elements into account and you're undoubtedly right on some of those things you've highlighted, but for the investment they're after I'd be looking for a bit of a better conversion rate than what he's showing. There's clearly a thought he will produce more based on our and other big clubs around Europe interest in signing him.


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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Trowel on April 16, 2021, 03:29:08 PM
https://twitter.com/taylor_davies77/status/1380506360488587266?
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: brap2 on April 16, 2021, 03:40:34 PM
Quality of chances would be his xa so how many assists you would normally expect his passes/crosses to produce...it's not perfect but gives you an idea of quality of delivery and area he's getting the ball in.

He has 0.14xa per 90 I think looking at that graph which is one of the highest in the champ for full backs and compared to the prem would be like...cresswell, Reece James, Marcos alonso-ish?

I doesn't *look* like his delivery is an issue but the major thing is...he's 21. You're getting an attacking full back with pace and dribbling ability who wants to whip it in, what you make of him is then partly up to the coach.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cozzie on April 16, 2021, 03:44:33 PM
So we would have the 2 most creative full backs if we got him in with Digne.

Give us more balance.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cozzie on April 16, 2021, 03:46:42 PM
https://twitter.com/TalkNorwichCity/status/1380098097502633986

Couldn't find a graph but this has him as 2nd for chances created behind his team mate Buendia.

Always said it will be sensational business to get them both in. Buendia will have his suitors though, the guys mustard.

Part of me wonders also whether the 78 chances he cretaed where so high maybe due to Aarons running creating space and pulling defenders away.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 16, 2021, 04:35:09 PM
I think itís pretty cool that players of this level are happy to spend a little time in the championship. Wasnít that long ago they wouldnít be seen dead playing there and would force a move to literally any PL club.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: kerryblue boy on April 17, 2021, 04:01:43 PM
There is life in Seamus yet
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: BlueForYou on April 17, 2021, 04:03:09 PM
There is...off the bench
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Toddacelli on April 17, 2021, 04:13:15 PM
There is life in Seamus yet

Think he's been really good for the most part this season. Call it a swansong, but that lad is going out on fire.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: dunkster on April 17, 2021, 04:40:25 PM
Reminds me of the baines situation. A very good quality sub that can be brought on but seamus injury record is pretty bad and needs a long term replacement.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: kerryblue boy on April 17, 2021, 04:42:33 PM
Iím not saying he should be first choice next season but as backup and club captain he should be retained
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Silas on April 17, 2021, 04:53:11 PM
Think Coleman shows how important an attacking threat at full back is, his 30 minute bursts this season have shown how important it is. He's not finished but he's not a 90 minute player anymore. A player like Aaron's would be ideal
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: mikey_blue on April 17, 2021, 05:34:04 PM
Reminds me of the baines situation. A very good quality sub that can be brought on but seamus injury record is pretty bad and needs a long term replacement.

100% have to keep hold of Seamus. Last thing we want to do is bring in a young RB with no back up, experienced head in the changing room and no competition for places.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Free Agent on April 17, 2021, 09:34:39 PM
Think Coleman shows how important an attacking threat at full back is, his 30 minute bursts this season have shown how important it is. He's not finished but he's not a 90 minute player anymore. A player like Aaron's would be ideal

Theyíve secured promotion. Would they sell though?
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Waltzer on April 17, 2021, 09:36:46 PM
They've secured promotion. Would they sell though?
Because a team is willing to pay way more than he's worth, money they can reinvest elsewhere

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bluedylan on April 17, 2021, 09:52:18 PM
Theyíve secured promotion. Would they sell though?

Norwich are Norwich, whichever division they're in. They bring young players through, sell them for significant money and reinvest.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bluedylan on April 23, 2021, 05:59:44 AM
Not sure of the validity of the info or the rep of the journo, but says West Ham are after him and he'd prefer to remain in the South...

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/west-ham-transfer-news-aarons-b1835774.html
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Toddacelli on April 23, 2021, 12:16:15 PM
Has he never heard of South Port?
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cozzie on April 23, 2021, 02:39:05 PM
Depends, if West Ham get Europe and we don't it could swing it.

Like to think that Carlo and well, Brands negotiating will swing it.

Do West Ham really need him? I thought they got that shit hot Croation right back that's been amazing this season?
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Waltzer on April 23, 2021, 02:40:48 PM
Depends, if West Ham get Europe and we don't it could swing it.

Like to think that Carlo and well, Brands negotiating will swing it.

Do West Ham really need him? I thought they got that shit hot Croation right back that's been amazing this season?
Yep, and he's best mates with Soucek I think. No way on earth they're paying 25 million on a right back when they have him

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: TheRam on April 23, 2021, 02:46:44 PM
Heís decent.

Not very good going forward. Heíll be a back up if they get europe.

Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Verm on April 23, 2021, 03:02:44 PM
Fabrizio Romano saying we are in advanced talks and leading the race. Many clubs interested but we started talking in Feb and hope to reach an agreement soon.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bluenose 91 on April 23, 2021, 04:01:38 PM
Be really good to get this one boxed early.

Hopefully that West Ham link was just to help speed things along a bit.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bluedylan on April 23, 2021, 04:34:37 PM
If Fabrizio Romano tweeted that my Mrs was cheating on me, I wouldn't even challenge her on it. I'd pack my things and go, his information has been that reliable.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cozzie on April 23, 2021, 04:38:46 PM
Absolutely love a @Django (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4371) exclusive soon on this, been a while.

Nothing quite beats when you see him pop up and you know shits about to get real.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: blargins on April 23, 2021, 04:47:36 PM
If Fabrizio Romano tweeted that my Mrs was cheating on me, I wouldn't even challenge her on it. I'd pack my things and go, his information has been that reliable.
You wouldnít kick her out?


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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bluedylan on April 23, 2021, 04:52:49 PM
You wouldnít kick her out?


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She's done too much work in the garden and in the greenhouse we've put up. I'm clueless in the garden. It would be a shame to make the plants suffer for her indiscretion.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Toffee1 on April 23, 2021, 04:55:48 PM
She's done too much work in the garden and in the greenhouse we've put up. I'm clueless in the garden. It would be a shame to make the plants suffer for her indiscretion.

Would allow you to get some time on AC Odyssey though.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bluedylan on April 23, 2021, 04:58:26 PM
Would allow you to get some time on AC Odyssey though.

You don't know how accurate that is. Her favourite phrase at the moment is 'I'm off to ancient Greece tonight'.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on April 23, 2021, 05:00:12 PM
Would allow you to get some time on AC Odyssey though.

Kassandra > My Wife
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Toffee1 on April 23, 2021, 05:06:27 PM
You don't know how accurate that is. Her favourite phrase at the moment is 'I'm off to ancient Greece tonight'.

Does she take the modern form of Agean airlines or does she stick to tradition and go by Pegasus?

On a serious note, your earlier post is something I will believe more than the press here - Fabrizio Romano has been pretty on the money with transfers and I am hoping that this is almost done and will be announced at the appropriate time.

Norwich, have just been promoted and will more than likely be champions, no need to spoil that, with news that one of their best players is about to or has already agreed to leave.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Robioto on April 23, 2021, 05:17:38 PM
I'm very excited about this one, feels like exactly the type of signing we should be making.

Will be amazing to get a key position sorted before the window opens too.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: ajax_andy on April 23, 2021, 06:33:30 PM
Be really good to get this one boxed early.

Hopefully that West Ham link was just to help speed things along a bit.

Yeah as in we've leaked an alleged interested from them so we can force him to push for a move to us quickly, or face the possibility of having to play for West Ham 😂
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Toffee1 on April 23, 2021, 07:29:20 PM
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1385498618203942912


Not much new from what @Verm (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=81) posted but here is the tweet.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Toddacelli on April 24, 2021, 06:26:14 PM
You don't know how accurate that is. Her favourite phrase at the moment is 'I'm off to ancient Greece tonight'.

Still loving Origins. Had Odyssey for over a year and never opened it but fast approaching that time...
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cozzie on April 24, 2021, 11:35:31 PM
Scored today.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: dunkster on April 29, 2021, 12:12:23 AM
Reading that Phil Kirkbride is saying we are looking at different options as Aaron's doesn't fit the type of player we want at right back.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: ajax_andy on April 29, 2021, 12:20:25 AM
Reading that Phil Kirkbride is saying we are looking at different options as Aaron's doesn't fit the type of player we want at right back.

Seems unlikely we'd be interested all season and then suddenly go 'oh shit he's not the type we need'.  Not sure this rumour makes a lot of sense tbh
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: dunkster on April 29, 2021, 12:22:54 AM
How reliable is Phil Kirkbride?
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bluedylan on April 29, 2021, 12:28:56 AM
How reliable is Phil Kirkbride?

Less than Fabrizio Romano, usually, by quite a distance.

Doesn't mean what Kirkbride says is not true like, but without any additional info or particular inclination to lean either way, I'd trust Romano more.

Maybe Aarons doesn't want to move up North as was suggested in the Independent last week. Who knows?
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: TheRam on April 29, 2021, 12:37:45 AM
Iím convinced the echo put out duff info on purpose.

Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: sam of the south on April 29, 2021, 02:08:51 AM
Aarons is bound to be a Brands choice.

Maybe Ancelotti isnít too keen.

I wouldnít blame him for being unconvinced, with the lack of assists, and the fact he isnít really known for his defensive qualities.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Macca77 on April 29, 2021, 02:55:08 AM
There are other right backs out there,
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cozzie on April 29, 2021, 03:04:25 AM
We will get Aarons.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on April 29, 2021, 03:29:21 AM
How reliable is Phil Kirkbride?

didnít he* also say weíre not in for James last summer at the same time as Romano had told everyone it was happening


*if not him, I do remember the echo putting something to telling everyone we werenít going to sign him/close to signing him
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on April 29, 2021, 03:38:58 AM
The biggest issue, if there is one, will be the price being touted. Thereís better value out there.


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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 05, 2021, 09:02:07 PM
Max Aarons update: new clubs are joining the race. Everton are now looking for other players

:(
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cozzie on May 05, 2021, 09:16:27 PM
Little dissapointed as I am a big fan of his but as long as we get a competent right back it's fine.

Ridle Baku sounds decent and can play more than one position.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Waltzer on May 05, 2021, 09:22:49 PM
Tbh I'm glad, be interested to see how he progresses but it seemed like a lot of money for someone that throws out the numbers he does

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Macca77 on May 05, 2021, 09:26:23 PM
Cheaper alternatives out there
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: mikey_blue on May 05, 2021, 10:11:19 PM
Ridle Baku instead then? Go onnnnnn.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Brownie on May 05, 2021, 10:32:16 PM
Little dissapointed as I am a big fan of his but as long as we get a competent right back it's fine.

Ridle Baku sounds decent and can play more than one position.

Primarily a midfielder though isnít he?
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: mikey_blue on May 05, 2021, 11:19:16 PM
Primarily a midfielder though isn't he?

Right back primarily, can play right wing and centre mid according to:

https://www.transfermarkt.com/ridle-baku/profil/spieler/327251
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cozzie on May 05, 2021, 11:52:57 PM
Primarily a midfielder though isnít he?

Looks like he can fluently play both it seems.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: MmmblueBernard on May 06, 2021, 01:47:30 AM
Ridle Baku instead then? Go onnnnnn.

Is that like some pistake play on words for right back?
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Brownie on May 06, 2021, 01:57:15 AM
Is that like some pistake play on words for right back?

Sounds like a Star Wars planet
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Toffee_4_Life on May 28, 2021, 03:34:19 AM
Literally "No chance" according to Fab 😳

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1398010945625067521?
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Bob Sacamano on May 28, 2021, 03:38:20 AM
😆
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: brap2 on May 28, 2021, 03:48:37 AM
Oh soz just posted about that in the transfer thread.

I'm not overly gutted like. Got spurs written all over him.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: kramer0 on May 28, 2021, 03:58:36 AM
Cool, letís do Baku.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Macca77 on May 28, 2021, 04:01:14 AM
Better and cheaper alternatives out there
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: brap2 on May 28, 2021, 04:05:34 AM
Cool, letís do Baku.

Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Cozzie on May 28, 2021, 02:50:13 PM
Slightly dissapointed in not getting Aarons, mainly because I am a big fan and think he would have transformed us.

Not the end of the world though, will be better value out there and as long as we get the right sort of right back as it is a priority for me.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: sam of the south on May 28, 2021, 03:02:13 PM
Oh soz just posted about that in the transfer thread.

I'm not overly gutted like. Got spurs written all over him.

Yeah, very Spurs.
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Macca77 on May 28, 2021, 03:23:55 PM
The rumoured fee 35 million is a bit much like, his stats don't jump of page either
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: Waltzer on May 28, 2021, 03:27:01 PM
The rumoured fee 35 million is a bit much like, his stats don't jump of page either
Yes, although he's still young and plenty of time to get better, I suppose you can say he's getting in the right places even if he's not converting them to goals or assists, but 35 million is a lot for  him imo

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Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: stirlingblue on May 28, 2021, 04:12:22 PM
As long as we keep looking for a really rapid right back Iím fine.

Still have major worries weíll go for somebody like Florenzi, Trippier or Sergi Roberto
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 28, 2021, 06:30:23 PM
Be a bit surprised if he goes anywhere. Not sure Norwich will be in a rush to sell now they've gone up and is imagine he'd rather wait and see unless 1 of the champions league teams shows interest
Title: Re: Max Aarons
Post by: kerryblue boy on May 28, 2021, 06:48:56 PM
Celik from lille is the man under 20 million great going forward and good defender