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Title: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on June 16, 2011, 01:21:44 AM
Right dont know if this has been posted before,if it has my apologies,but i have read on other sites(i read most Everton sites but only post on this) that we are in for Nzogbia and he is interested in coming to us,but Wigan want £4.5 of the fee paid in advance.Of course we dont have that money,which i think is an absolute disgrace for a club of our size.We are waiting on the sales of Yak and Yobo,but just a minute i have long since given up on the thought of kenwright and co using their own money to help their club,but surely they can give us an interest free loan to complete this deal and get the money back when we sell players.For Christs sake how much of a free ride do these tossers in charge of us want,this is their club they own it,they will make massive profits when the eventually sell it,so if your listening bill,make an effort for a change,because i think this player could make a difference,anyone agree?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on June 16, 2011, 01:22:52 AM
-1
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Confucius on June 16, 2011, 01:23:30 AM
I struggled to read it but I think I agree. I can't be sure tho.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: evertonjoe on June 16, 2011, 01:23:36 AM
+1
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on June 16, 2011, 01:25:57 AM
Insomnia is a disgrace!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: ajax_andy on June 16, 2011, 01:33:31 AM
I won't be losing any sleep over it
Title: I'm not sure so I've hedge myu bets
Post by: Bily No Pace on June 16, 2011, 01:34:10 AM
I won't be losing any sleep over it

is this an insomnia joke?
Title: Oh the ironing!
Post by: evertonjoe on June 16, 2011, 01:37:02 AM
is this an insomnia joke?

Spelling mistake in post tittle?
Title: Tattle
Post by: Bily No Pace on June 16, 2011, 01:39:18 AM
Spelling mistake in post tittle?

Shit I thought nobody read them!!!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Connavar on June 16, 2011, 01:55:46 AM
But Moyes had/has the Pienaar money to spend...
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: christiffa25 on June 16, 2011, 02:27:28 AM
Your reading far too much into it... We may be in for him, maybe not, either way all the details regarding price's, wages, fees up front ect ect is all paper media talk.

Chill and wait to hear it from the horses mouth. Other than that take it with a pinch of salt coz reallisticly 95% of it is probably bollocks!!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: toffee_scot on June 16, 2011, 02:57:42 AM
But Moyes had/has the Pienaar money to spend...

We can't be sure of that
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: GLewis on June 16, 2011, 03:13:49 AM
But Moyes had/has the Pienaar money to spend...

Which was less than £4.5m.

I doubt that we've got £2m up front for Vaughan.

What is a disgrace is that we've got such a bad credit rating that we can't borrow the money from a bank and pay it back when the players are sold. No bank is going to take the risk that the players won't be sold.

Also most other clubs do have a board member who is prepared to help the club out every now and again. Even if they expect their money back.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Tasslehoff on June 16, 2011, 04:16:47 AM
At the moment I honestly think we won't get anyone. Maybe a dodgey loan or two. Tin hat times lads.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: efcraz on June 16, 2011, 04:20:25 AM
we have really got to spend some money this summer though, its the most important summer since the 4th place (when we fucked up) with the players that are due to go going, we really are going to be down to the bare bones!!

it wouldn't take alot to get the squad we have right up to scratch imo
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 16, 2011, 05:00:28 AM
But Moyes had/has the Pienaar money to spend...


I asked an ITK today if Moyesy still had the Pienaar money and he said yes, ive also asked him how much altogether we have after selling Vaughan aswell but he's to get back to me yet.

Btw, what the poster as said was in the dailly mirror today. Thats why i asked if we had the Pienaar money still. And talks are still going on with Fellaini with regards to a new improved deal, i just thought i'd add that.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on June 16, 2011, 05:08:15 AM
Ah my spelling that will be my grade 2 English CSE im afraid,over 30 years ago,never mind grammar was never my strong point >:(.But the main point of my post is possibly losing out on a player for a measley £4.5 million.Never mind having now seen efcraz's bird I wish I were 30 years younger!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on June 16, 2011, 04:14:21 PM
I seen the article in the Mirror myself and it made me feel sick.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Krissy on June 16, 2011, 04:58:34 PM
Ah my spelling that will be my grade 2 English CSE im afraid,over 30 years ago,never mind grammar was never my strong point >:(.But the main point of my post is possibly losing out on a player for a measley £4.5 million.Never mind having now seen efcraz's bird I wish I were 30 years younger!

you say losing a player for a measley £4.5m but that's the point we don't even have that. This really is becoming ridiculous. Surely someone out there can buy Everton and spend a bit and I don't care about the antiquated ground excuse...
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on June 16, 2011, 06:10:09 PM
you say losing a player for a measley £4.5m but that's the point we don't even have that. This really is becoming ridiculous. Surely someone out there can buy Everton and spend a bit and I don't care about the antiquated ground excuse...

But there are plenty of other excuses and alibis. Our ownership excels at those.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on June 17, 2011, 02:09:07 AM
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Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: charlatan on June 17, 2011, 02:20:45 AM
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/253910_10150216143386033_505021032_7317594_6280933_n.jpg)

lolol
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Trowel on June 18, 2011, 05:33:11 AM
Quote
Newcastle have been quoted £10 million for the purchase of Charles N’Zogbia after a bid from Everton faltered, according to the Times.

N’Zogbia looked set for a move to Everton, and Wigan were reportedly pleased to be doing the deal with the side, as they see Newcastle as more of a threat to their standing on the Barclays Premier League table next season.

While Everton had been quoted £7 million for the winger, the deal has fallen through due to problems with the Toffees getting the cash together to cover the payment, which Wigan is reportedly demanding up front.

http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/newcastle-quoted-3m-inflation-on-everton-target--- (http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/newcastle-quoted-3m-inflation-on-everton-target---)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on June 18, 2011, 06:24:19 AM
I am choosing to not believe that story as it is too deflatng. Seriously if we can get him for 7 mil and we don't have enough we should start selling players and not stop until we have enough. Get Yak and Yobo deals sorted and then move on the other out of favour players.

That said I don't think Wigan will give us a 3 mil plus discount regardless of the reasoning. It's more in their interests to squeeze as much money out of the sale as possible in order to improve their squad.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Azz on June 18, 2011, 06:35:33 AM
Let's have Jonathan Legear instead!  He'll be cheaper!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: sharpattack on June 18, 2011, 07:07:35 AM

  And talks are still going on with Fellaini with regards to a new improved deal, i just thought i'd add that.
Playing Devil's Advocate here, but why is he being offered a new improved deal? He has missed a good part of last season, and the season before
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Sprooly on June 18, 2011, 07:11:20 AM
Playing Devil's Advocate here, but why is he being offered a new improved deal? He has missed a good part of last season, and the season before

because he has the ability to absolutely dominate a game and can go up fwd in times of emergency hoof ball 
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Amata on June 18, 2011, 07:21:47 AM
because he has the ability to absolutely dominate a game and can go up fwd in times of emergency hoof ball 

Or because he only has 2 yrs left on his contract.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: efcraz on June 18, 2011, 07:25:59 AM
Playing Devil's Advocate here, but why is he being offered a new improved deal? He has missed a good part of last season, and the season before

because baines aside he is head n shoulders above the rest of our squad, i dont think some realise how good this guy could be
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on June 18, 2011, 08:08:05 AM
But don't you find it interesting with Fellaini, both times he's been out injured for a long period have coincided with our better form? He is a good player and I like him a lot, but does he suit us? I'm beginning to wonder. Or is it something else?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: christiffa25 on June 18, 2011, 01:49:57 PM
I think you will find that is coincidence with Fellani being out injured

We don't have a winning mentality when all our top players are fit. We seem to buckle under the presure of being expected to win. Which is why we seem to do better when the chips are down players out injured and not expected to win. Same as when we play the big teams with a full team pressure is off and we perform!

I think we need some players that have that mentality ours all seem to nice. Maybe j Barton might add a bit of that!??
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 18, 2011, 11:09:21 PM
http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/newcastle-quoted-3m-inflation-on-everton-target--- (http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/newcastle-quoted-3m-inflation-on-everton-target---)



 See that (the link) - a) Wigan see Newcastle as more of a threat, b) Wigan would actually sell Charlie to us at a loss, and we can't even do a relatively cheapish deal for a very good player that possesses the ability we currently lack. That is the clearest indication yet that we are financially f*cked when it comes to trying to push on.

                                                                                                       :'(

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on June 18, 2011, 11:19:04 PM
Playing Devil's Advocate here, but why is he being offered a new improved deal? He has missed a good part of last season, and the season before

Because he's the best DM in the league, and you know nothing about football.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: wigster on June 18, 2011, 11:20:31 PM
Because he's the best DM in the league, and you know nothing about football.


spot on mate. that he is. he will go onto to play for top european side
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: evertonjoe on June 18, 2011, 11:22:28 PM
Playing Devil's Advocate here, but why is he being offered a new improved deal? He has missed a good part of last season, and the season before

Because when he has played he has been one of the stand out players in the team.

There has also been a great deal of reported interest from very rich clubs and getting him to sign a new deal is a good way of making sure we don't lose him on free or for less than we should be able to get for him.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Connavar on June 18, 2011, 11:39:32 PM
But don't you find it interesting with Fellaini, both times he's been out injured for a long period have coincided with our better form? He is a good player and I like him a lot, but does he suit us? I'm beginning to wonder. Or is it something else?

Using that rationale, he was also out last season during probably one of the worst runs we've had in the Prem since Moyes has been in charge.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: GLewis on June 18, 2011, 11:52:46 PM
I doubt that Wigan would give us a discount and that that story probably isn't true but it's still very depressing none the less!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: evertonjoe on June 19, 2011, 12:37:39 AM
But don't you find it interesting with Fellaini, both times he's been out injured for a long period have coincided with our better form? He is a good player and I like him a lot, but does he suit us? I'm beginning to wonder. Or is it something else?

That's not entirely correct to be honest, in 09/10 we'd been unbeaten for 9 games before Fellaini's injury.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 19, 2011, 12:39:28 AM
I doubt that Wigan would give us a discount and that that story probably isn't true but it's still very depressing none the less!


 I always wonder, why is it Evertonians will never take a story that they find somewhat un palatable, that the (given) news item - is always dismissed as 'this or that' - and never taken at face value.

 Other (in my opinion) news stories, however (ie the Klose crap - 6887 visits, this forum - page 4), which was never going to get past first-base, can attract thousands of Evertonians actually thinking we may/might have had a chance of completing is just plain cock.

 This particular news item (for me) is easily acceptable and some Evertonians need to face the truth of where EFC really stand.



Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on June 19, 2011, 05:35:48 PM
Using that rationale, he was also out last season during probably one of the worst runs we've had in the Prem since Moyes has been in charge.

He was out for the second half of the past two seasons whereby our form has picked up. I'm not saying it's down to him being out, just pointing out I don't think he's as essential as is being made out. He isn't the best dm in the league and he isn't very creative either and rarely scores. He is a solid centre midfielder who has dominated certain games, but is that enough for the vast amount of money we are paying for him?

I think we have to explore all options in generating money on order to buy players in positions we need. And if he isn't interested in signing a contract, we need to establish that asap and then act accordingly and actually learn from history before we let yet another player leave on the cheap.

Rodwell's value is falling by the day imo, so I don't think we're going to get the funds required by his sale, so we have to look at alternatives. It's that simple.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Connavar on June 19, 2011, 05:35:49 PM

 I always wonder, why is it Evertonians will never take a story that they find somewhat un palatable, that the (given) news item - is always dismissed as 'this or that' - and never taken at face value.

 Other (in my opinion) news stories, however (ie the Klose crap - 6887 visits, this forum - page 4), which was never going to get past first-base, can attract thousands of Evertonians actually thinking we may/might have had a chance of completing is just plain cock.

 This particular news item (for me) is easily acceptable and some Evertonians need to face the truth of where EFC really stand.





Probably because Klose was on a free and actually came to Finch Farm. That gives the story legs. This one? Everyone would love N'Zogbia, but do you really think it's more likely given our financial situation? We have to sell to buy and for all intents and purposes, two of our guaranteed sells this season haven't gone as well as we'd have hoped. Wigan won't wait for ever, if indeed they are waiting at all. But that aside, think about it logically, why would they sell to us for one price but not sell to Newcastle for a larger price? Rivals or not, Wigan aren't exactly rolling in it themselves!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on June 19, 2011, 05:37:46 PM
That's not entirely correct to be honest, in 09/10 we'd been unbeaten for 9 games before Fellaini's injury.
Fair enough, I hadn't analysed it that closely, but we can live without him if need be.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Shogun on June 19, 2011, 08:23:17 PM
Sky Bet: We've suspended betting on the transfers of Charles N'Zogbia and Alexis Sanchez following significant backing for them at short prices to join Newcastle and Barcelona respectively. See all our Transfer Specials here.

looks like he's going to newcastle then,
said berbatov was favourite to go to newcastle as well :S
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: bluedavey on June 19, 2011, 09:01:49 PM
Looks like Kenny Dalglish best thing happen to Newcastle!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on June 19, 2011, 09:12:59 PM
I think you will find that is coincidence with Fellani being out injured

We don't have a winning mentality when all our top players are fit. We seem to buckle under the presure of being expected to win. Which is why we seem to do better when the chips are down players out injured and not expected to win. Same as when we play the big teams with a full team pressure is off and we perform!

I think we need some players that have that mentality ours all seem to nice. Maybe j Barton might add a bit of that!??

I think that's just an excuse.

We simply lack the players and the tactics to break teams down with our passing game. When we play teams that are more open, we perform better, either because their defences are easier to penetrate or because we switch to a more direct approach that suits us better.

Credit to Moyes that he's been trying to move us in a direction of more passing and possession but we simply haven't got the personnel and he hasn't got the tactical acumen to make it work against packed defences. Mind you, even Arsenal, who have been practising nothing else for years struggle quite often.

But both Barton and Zoggy would help us get closer to that goal.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on June 19, 2011, 09:19:48 PM
im sorry but i get pissed of when people just "moan about players going to other clubs" specially the barcodes.end of the day they can afford him/players/wages we cant get a grip there still shit and wel still  finish above them no matter
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: bluedavey on June 19, 2011, 09:25:33 PM
To be fair don't think anyone moaning just recognise a player who could take us to the next level who we strongly tipped our main target going elsewhere.  Not certain we can be that sure we'll finish above them either.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Dublin Toffee on June 19, 2011, 09:28:37 PM
Sickened we're going to miss out on him. He really possesses something that we haven't had since the days of Andrei tormenting full backs.

Again, sickened.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on June 19, 2011, 09:35:00 PM
hes class.. id love him here but we cant afford him can we? im sick of being a fuckin broke scruffy cunt of a club its a joke. but until uno who fucks of sells/wins lotto/does fuckin something itl be the same.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Connavar on June 19, 2011, 09:42:39 PM
He was out for the second half of the past two seasons whereby our form has picked up. I'm not saying it's down to him being out, just pointing out I don't think he's as essential as is being made out. He isn't the best dm in the league and he isn't very creative either and rarely scores. He is a solid centre midfielder who has dominated certain games, but is that enough for the vast amount of money we are paying for him?

I think we have to explore all options in generating money on order to buy players in positions we need. And if he isn't interested in signing a contract, we need to establish that asap and then act accordingly and actually learn from history before we let yet another player leave on the cheap.

Rodwell's value is falling by the day imo, so I don't think we're going to get the funds required by his sale, so we have to look at alternatives. It's that simple.

quite right, no one is bigger than the club, but two things. Firstly, I understand that Football is a game of buying and selling. It always has it always will. Better players than Rodwell and Fellaini have and will come and go. That's the nature of the game. What I don't like or agree with is the idea that this club is some sort of stepping stone for their future. I want Rodwell, Fellaini and any other bright young stars to come to Everton and feel that this is the Club that they can achieve what they wish in the career. At the moment, unless underachieving and being the perennial underdog is all they aspire to be, then we'll never be in a position to offer that and quite frankly I don't want that kind of player at Everton. That being said, every player has a price and we do need to figure out what is best for the club. As much as it galls me, selling the likes of Rodwell and Fellaini has been something I've been prepared for, for a very long time. I expected one to leave. Both if our finances were in a worse way than expected. If that happens, Rodwell is the ideal player that ticks all the boxes. Despite what anyone thinks about his value, with the current trend of young English transfers i wouldn't entertain anything less than £15m. In this day and age when football seems to be obsessed with profit and loss figures, that would show a massive positive figure, which we couldn't dream of getting unless we sold Fellaini for over £30m, which I think we can all agree isn't going to happen.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on June 19, 2011, 09:46:54 PM
im sorry but i get pissed of when people just "moan about players going to other clubs" specially the barcodes.end of the day they can afford him/players/wages we cant get a grip there still shit and wel still  finish above them no matter

Can you shed some light on the exact reasoning behind this belief?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on June 19, 2011, 09:51:59 PM
Can you shed some light on the exact reasoning behind this belief?

Because we are ten times the club Newcastle are.

Could you name me a Newcastle player that would get into our team?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Fynci on June 19, 2011, 09:59:04 PM
Because we are ten times the club Newcastle are.

Could you name me a Newcastle player that would get into our team?

Nzogbia.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: jongre123 on June 19, 2011, 10:00:21 PM
Because we are ten times the club Newcastle are.

Could you name me a Newcastle player that would get into our team?

Ben Arfa
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on June 19, 2011, 10:02:58 PM
Nzogbia.

Fuck has he signed for the cunts?

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on June 19, 2011, 10:05:07 PM
Ben Arfa

He was on loan wasnt he, have they signed him?
Ba? hahaha!

Fucking bellends are worse than Spurs.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: jongre123 on June 19, 2011, 10:08:03 PM
He was on loan wasnt he, have they signed him?

Signed him in Jan. Nzog is a former Newcastle player.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Norwegiantoffee on June 19, 2011, 10:08:25 PM
Because we are ten times the club Newcastle are.

Could you name me a Newcastle player that would get into our team?

Sylvain Marveaux and Yohan Cabaye
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on June 19, 2011, 10:11:30 PM
Barton.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on June 19, 2011, 10:11:50 PM
Because we are ten times the club Newcastle are.

Could you name me a Newcastle player that would get into our team?

Barton, N'Zogbia, Ba, Gutierrez.

Anyway, we are ten times the club Man City are, yet they will play in the CL next season while we try not to get knocked out by a League One team from the League Cup.

Give me an actual, tangible reason why we should always finish ahead of Newcastle while they buy players and our squad is slowly but steadily disintegrating, not some made up sentimental shit.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 19, 2011, 10:18:28 PM
Probably because Klose was on a free and actually came to Finch Farm. That gives the story legs. This one? Everyone would love N'Zogbia, but do you really think it's more likely given our financial situation? We have to sell to buy and for all intents and purposes, two of our guaranteed sells this season haven't gone as well as we'd have hoped. Wigan won't wait for ever, if indeed they are waiting at all. But that aside, think about it logically, why would they sell to us for one price but not sell to Newcastle for a larger price? Rivals or not, Wigan aren't exactly rolling in it themselves!


 Conn', you have put a very good 'other side of the coin' together there, fella' - and my only response is this :-

 Our way (EFC's) that we have to do our business, because of the financial situation, really can be a depressing subject. I think I can safely say that we all know what players, or type of players, we do need to make us better. So, when a player of N'Zogbia's calibre becomes available, who you would think is definately getable (we're not talking telephone numbers regarding price) and I read that particular link - I have to be honest, in my house it's a good idea for my family to hide all the razor-blades away from me because I see no chang of light at the end of a very dark tunnel.

                                                                                                        :(

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: jongre123 on June 19, 2011, 10:18:31 PM
Sylvain Marveaux and Yohan Cabaye

he's crap.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: pedrotheblue on June 19, 2011, 10:20:52 PM
Can you shed some light on the exact reasoning behind this belief?

Moyes!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: evertonjoe on June 19, 2011, 10:23:24 PM
Barton, N'Zogbia, Ba, Gutierrez.

Anyway, we are ten times the club Man City are, yet they will play in the CL next season while we try not to get knocked out by a League One team from the League Cup.

Give me an actual, tangible reason why we should always finish ahead of Newcastle while they buy players and our squad is slowly but steadily disintegrating, not some made up sentimental shit.

Let's be honest putting N'Zogbia as a Newcastle player is just a bit stupid, at least if you're not trying to be facetious.

As for Gutierrez I don't believe he would get into our team as he is extremely average and is at beast a headless chicken.

Barton, Ba and Ben Arfa most likely would get into our team and it's probably fair to say that Marveaux  and Cabaye would stand a very good chance of making it into our starting eleven as well.

There's no real  'tangible' reason for why we should finish above Newcastle other than the fact that we have greater stability (especially manager wise). If Newcastle were to invest the Andy Carrol money wisely they'd have no excuse what so ever for finishing below us.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on June 19, 2011, 10:42:38 PM
Barton, N'Zogbia, Ba, Gutierrez.

Anyway, we are ten times the club Man City are, yet they will play in the CL next season while we try not to get knocked out by a League One team from the League Cup.

Give me an actual, tangible reason why we should always finish ahead of Newcastle while they buy players and our squad is slowly but steadily disintegrating, not some made up sentimental shit.
Is Ba better than Saha, no

N'Zogbia plays for Wigan

Barton maybe on the right but no chance in the middle

and Gutierrez just fuck off are you messing

We will finish above Newcastle as we have a board that wont sack Moyes if we get off to a bad start. Soon as it goes tits up at Newcastle it goes absolutley fucking mental.

And if we do end up selling Felliani or Baines, Moyes will then have 25 mil to strengthen what is already a good team, and buy the 20 goal a season striker we are crying out for.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 19, 2011, 10:55:10 PM

 And if we do end up selling Felliani or Baines,

 Ramster, I know you're not suggesting this but in my opinion, if Fellaini or Leighton Baines (or both) are sold in this current summer window - the vibes, or ramifications of the sale(s) would be calamitous. Baines, in particular, in my opinion, is on par with Danny Alves (I know Alves is a right-back) as the best full-back in world football.







Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on June 19, 2011, 10:56:14 PM
Is Ba better than Saha, no

We tried to sign him, therefore he'd get into our team.

N'Zogbia plays for Wigan

This conversation started from why people whinge when he signs for Newcastle. So he is.

Barton maybe on the right but no chance in the middle

We have Neville and Heitinga play in the middle regularly. Is he worse than them? Is he the fuck. If they have a place in CM, so would Barton.

and Gutierrez just fuck off are you messing

Obviously I expect you to list the names of left wingers in our team who are better than him.

But I almost missed the clincher, the ultimate proof of your utter delusion: you say that if we sell Baines, Moyes would have £25m to strengthen the squad. If we sell Baines, we're fucked. Not just a little bit fucked, we'd be royally fucked. Baines is the single most important player at our club, as not only is he our only reliable plan in attack, he's also the only left back we have in our squad. In every other position we have some sort of cover, even if it's Tony Hibbert, but in Baines' position we have literally nobody.

So if we sell Baines, Moyes would have £25m not to strengthen the squad, but just to avoid weakening it too much.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: JoeHart on June 19, 2011, 11:08:30 PM
nzogbia is class, would love to see us with a proper winger.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: bluedavey on June 19, 2011, 11:38:18 PM
Got to agree with Clanger completely
 and to make matters worse Moyes wouldn't even get the whole 25million if we sold Baines.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on June 19, 2011, 11:39:14 PM
We tried to sign him, therefore he'd get into our team.

This conversation started from why people whinge when he signs for Newcastle. So he is.

We have Neville and Heitinga play in the middle regularly. Is he worse than them? Is he the fuck. If they have a place in CM, so would Barton.

Obviously I expect you to list the names of left wingers in our team who are better than him.

But I almost missed the clincher, the ultimate proof of your utter delusion: you say that if we sell Baines, Moyes would have £25m to strengthen the squad. If we sell Baines, we're fucked. Not just a little bit fucked, we'd be royally fucked. Baines is the single most important player at our club, as not only is he our only reliable plan in attack, he's also the only left back we have in our squad. In every other position we have some sort of cover, even if it's Tony Hibbert, but in Baines' position we have literally nobody.

So if we sell Baines, Moyes would have £25m not to strengthen the squad, but just to avoid weakening it too much.

I actually agree when it comes to Baines that stats speak for themselves when it comes to how vital he is to our team. My argument is would any Newcastle players get into our best eleven. And I still think no. Neville and Heitinga do not play in the middle regulary only when we have injuries,I take Saha over Ba, and despite us having no natural left wingers I would still say Arteta is a better bet than Jonas when played on the left.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on June 19, 2011, 11:41:12 PM
Got to agree with Clanger completely
 and to make matters worse Moyes wouldn't even get the whole 25million if we sold Baines.

how many times do I have to remind people that Moyes has always got 100% of the money made from selling players. Do you have any sources,quotes,facts that suggest this season will be different?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gray90 on June 19, 2011, 11:54:50 PM
how many times do I have to remind people that Moyes has always got 100% of the money made from selling players. Do you have any sources,quotes,facts that suggest this season will be different?

Elstone suggested this might not be the case at the fans forum.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: nomorechang on June 20, 2011, 12:02:45 AM
how many times do I have to remind people that Moyes has always got 100% of the money made from selling players. Do you have any sources,quotes,facts that suggest this season will be different?

How many times do you have to be told that Robert Elstone , CEO told a room full of witnesses that Moyes would NOT  receive the full amount of any money raised from incoming transfers, You are the only person stupid enough to dispute this fact
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: CarlosAlberto on June 20, 2011, 12:20:38 AM
I am sure someone mentioned on here the other week that Moyes was negotiating with Kenwright to get 80% of all money raised by transfers, whereas BK wanted to give him 70%.

The whole situation sucks. Viva la revolution!
Title: I'm not stupid!
Post by: Bily No Pace on June 20, 2011, 12:23:53 AM
How many times do you have to be told that Robert Elstone , CEO told a room full of witnesses that Moyes would NOT  receive the full amount of any money raised from incoming transfers, You are the only person stupid enough to dispute this fact

Hang on a minute, it was the fans conference and when asked he said it was too early to know. He did indicate that it MIGHT be the case but at no point did he way Moyes would not receive the full transfer amount and then said he would do everything in his power to help David! You can listen for yourself, instead of listening to hearsay, at around 18 mins:

http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2011/04/elstone-answers-questions-at-the-everton-fans%E2%80%99-conference-full-audio/ (http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2011/04/elstone-answers-questions-at-the-everton-fans%E2%80%99-conference-full-audio/)

Talk about twisting things to suit your agenda!! By the way, he is not the only person 'stupid' enough to dispute it, in fact I dispute the claim too, am I stupid? I think you need to get off your pedestal.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on June 20, 2011, 12:38:12 AM
Where does agenda come into this ?, was not Elstone quoted as saying this in the fans forum/conference,that Moyes would not get all the money from sales,and that some of it would go towards debt.I seem to remember Kenwright selling something called Bellfield a couple of months ago, for £8 to £10 million perhaps BNP can tell us how much of that Moysey got to spend....oh wait a minute that all went on debt repayment dident it
Title: I don't think he did sell it
Post by: Bily No Pace on June 20, 2011, 12:38:55 AM
Where does agenda come into this ?, was not Elstone quoted as saying this in the fans forum/conference,that Moyes would not get all the money from sales,and that some of it would go towards debt.I seem to remember Kenwright selling something called Bellfield a couple of months ago, for £8 to £10 million perhaps BNP can tell us how much of that Moysey got to spend....oh wait a minute that all went on debt repayment dident it

Did you just read any of my last post? He didn't say it!
Title: WUM
Post by: Bily No Pace on June 20, 2011, 12:43:21 AM
and yet, should David Moyes not be given all of the money he brings in through selling players this summer, you will say "Well Elstone told you he might not get it all, we all knew this so why are you complaining now?"

you're just a wind up though, it's just a shame so many fall for it and engage you

Sorry if me defending an issue winds you up! I think I've made VERY valid point. Just sticking up for common sense really!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on June 20, 2011, 12:49:08 AM
Hang on a minute, it was the fans conference and when asked he said it was too early to know. He did indicate that it MIGHT be the case but at no point did he way Moyes would not receive the full transfer amount and then said he would do everything in his power to help David! You can listen for yourself, instead of listening to hearsay, at around 18 mins:

http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2011/04/elstone-answers-questions-at-the-everton-fans%E2%80%99-conference-full-audio/ (http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2011/04/elstone-answers-questions-at-the-everton-fans%E2%80%99-conference-full-audio/)

Talk about twisting things to suit your agenda!! By the way, he is not the only person 'stupid' enough to dispute it, in fact I dispute the claim too, am I stupid? I think you need to get off your pedestal.

For everyone who might have doubted it, this argument demonstrates the value of making all the minutes of the fans' forum public.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: plumber on June 20, 2011, 01:04:11 AM
How many times do you have to be told that Robert Elstone , CEO told a room full of witnesses that Moyes would NOT  receive the full amount of any money raised from incoming transfers, You are the only person stupid enough to dispute this fact
He's not. I am also stupid enough not to jump on the bandwagon called "Moyes won't get any money for sure, because Elstone said that, or maybe he hinted that, or maybe he meant that and maybe not".
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on June 20, 2011, 01:06:31 AM
How many times do you have to be told that Robert Elstone , CEO told a room full of witnesses that Moyes would NOT  receive the full amount of any money raised from incoming transfers, You are the only person stupid enough to dispute this fact

I think everyone in this thread has established your the stupid one with your opinions on us and Newcastle. Iam just going on past expeience when it comes to the money debate. Even if we did sell Felliani I doubt very much that Moyes would actually spend all of it anyway. Im just pissed off that every thread on here turns into an anti Kenwright rant from bellends like you who just twist things to suit your own agenda, and when a clever and intelligent person like myself comes and states actual facts Im the one that gets called stupid  ???
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on June 20, 2011, 01:12:07 AM
Did you just read any of my last post? He didn't say it!

Listening to that I cant make out what he said,he did not know himself how much Moysey would get from player sales,and thats our CEO,talk about tranparancy!By the way I will admit that is the first time I have actually heard that transcript,but back to my post will you tell us how much of the Bellfield money (8-10 million)Moysey will get to spend?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: plumber on June 20, 2011, 01:16:10 AM
Listening to that I cant make out what he said,he did not know himself how much Moysey would get from player sales,and thats our CEO,talk about tranparancy!By the way I will admit that is the first time I have actually heard that transcript,but back to my post will you tell us how much of the Bellfield money (8-10 million)Moysey will get to spend?

In what position did Bellefield play and to which club we sold him?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on June 20, 2011, 01:18:29 AM
In what position did Bellefield play and to which club we sold him?

 lolol

Have a +1 from me
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Trowel on June 20, 2011, 01:32:46 AM
Apologies for this being back on topic, but Liverpool fans seem to think he's on the verge of signing for them.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on June 20, 2011, 02:20:51 AM
In what position did Bellefield play and to which club we sold him?

Ha very good plumber you quite rightly pointed out Bellfield is not a player,sheer genius,my point was that was an asset sold by our board for about £10 million that Moysey wont see a penny of,and if you like sarcasm,dont think of Bellfield think of Bellend yourself!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on June 20, 2011, 02:22:06 AM
Ha very good plumber you quite rightly pointed out Bellfield is not a player,sheer genius,my point was that was an asset sold by our board for about £10 million that Moysey wont see a penny of,and if you like sarcasm,dont think of Bellfield think of Bellend yourself!

Touchy touchy  :batty:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blackwatch78efc on June 20, 2011, 02:56:02 AM
This whole thread should be closed now as out of all the speculation with regards players we are apparently after, this is the most ridiculous. Not because moyes wouldnt want him, but because theres no way he's gonna sign for us. The fact he will cost something was the first clue, but add his wages and the interest from other more ambitious teams and well, sadly this ones a pipe dream.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gash on June 20, 2011, 03:48:48 AM
This whole thread should be closed now as out of all the speculation with regards players we are apparently after, this is the most ridiculous. Not because moyes wouldnt want him, but because theres no way he's gonna sign for us. The fact he will cost something was the first clue, but add his wages and the interest from other more ambitious teams and well, sadly this ones a pipe dream.

So, we might as well just close the forum if people aren't allowed to speculate about players we are linked with?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blackwatch78efc on June 20, 2011, 04:12:42 AM
Never said that, i just feel 7 pages on someone who definately wont sign for us is a little too much. Well at least until he signs for someone else and then we can do what we always do and say 'we were probably never seriously in for him anyway' which would be true..........again.

I know you try your best to disagree or argue with me, but in all honesty do you seriously think we will even get close to signing him? Even if we agreed a fee with wigan i would still bank on him signing for someone else. Still your entitled to your opinion, wouldnt be much fun if we all agreed on everything would it?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gash on June 20, 2011, 04:22:58 AM
Never said that, i just feel 7 pages on someone who definately wont sign for us is a little too much. Well at least until he signs for someone else and then we can do what we always do and say 'we were probably never seriously in for him anyway' which would be true..........again.

I know you try your best to disagree or argue with me, but in all honesty do you seriously think we will even get close to signing him? Even if we agreed a fee with wigan i would still bank on him signing for someone else. Still your entitled to your opinion, wouldnt be much fun if we all agreed on everything would it?

I think your probably right, I don't think we will sign him. See, I don't always disagree.  ;)

My point was you said the thread should be closed, which wouldn't really be much point to having a forum if every thread was closed because we wouldn't get the player.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blackwatch78efc on June 20, 2011, 05:01:10 AM
Very true gash, especially as we probably wont sign any of the players we're linked with or want for that matter. It was a bit of a daft thing to say, its just I get a bit miffed around this time of year lol .
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on June 20, 2011, 01:09:24 PM
This whole thread should be closed now as out of all the speculation with regards players we are apparently after, this is the most ridiculous. Not because moyes wouldnt want him, but because theres no way he's gonna sign for us. The fact he will cost something was the first clue, but add his wages and the interest from other more ambitious teams and well, sadly this ones a pipe dream.

What--and rob posters of another chance to attack one another? Heresy! What the fuck do you think this board is for this time of year, you depressed bastard?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gary Iceman on June 20, 2011, 03:44:33 PM
Apologies for this being back on topic, but Liverpool fans seem to think he's on the verge of signing for them.

Liverpool have 'agreed a fee' and 'terms with the player's representatives' for the transfer of Wigan winger Charles NZogbia
Title: I believe you though!
Post by: Bily No Pace on June 20, 2011, 03:47:32 PM
Liverpool have 'agreed a fee' and 'terms with the player's representatives' for the transfer of Wigan winger Charles NZogbia

Where's that from, mate?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gary Iceman on June 20, 2011, 03:49:51 PM
premier league page on facebook.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on June 20, 2011, 04:31:16 PM
 :headbang:  :headbang:  :headbang:  :headbang:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Sprooly on June 20, 2011, 04:41:21 PM
nothing on the EPL site?

what is this PL fb btw? couldnt find it
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Connavar on June 20, 2011, 05:25:34 PM
Absolutely ridiculous. And all because despite the sales of Steven Pienaar and James Vaughan, and the loan fees received for Yakubu in January, the Sky TV money and the selling of Bellefield all received over the last 12 months, we couldn't find £4.5m as a down payment?

I'd love to say i'm surprised, but i'm not, and the fact that the team we could be loosing out to is a team that 6 months ago were basically in administration, but have spent in excess of £50m since January, only finished a place above us in the league and are our local rivals galls me.

Whilst we have a board and the majority of fans have no ambition, this is the best we're going to get in the near future i'm afraid.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on June 20, 2011, 05:32:08 PM
Absolutely ridiculous. And all because despite the sales of Steven Pienaar and James Vaughan, and the loan fees received for Yakubu in January, the Sky TV money and the selling of Bellefield all received over the last 12 months, we couldn't find £4.5m as a down payment?

I'd love to say i'm surprised, but i'm not, and the fact that the team we could be loosing out to is a team that 6 months ago were basically in administration, but have spent in excess of £50m since January, only finished a place above us in the league and are our local rivals galls me.

Whilst we have a board and the majority of fans have no ambition, this is the best we're going to get in the near future i'm afraid.

Correct and extremely infuriatuing. Its time the fans grew a set and started to do something about this,
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on June 20, 2011, 05:34:39 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz its always going to be the same until theres change/investment at board level which fuckin never happens in the mean time were just a laughing stock of a club who cant buy fuck all.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gary Iceman on June 20, 2011, 05:38:31 PM
nothing on the EPL site?

what is this PL fb btw? couldnt find it

http://www.facebook.com/# (http://www.facebook.com/#)!/pages/Premier-League/113227922034252
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on June 20, 2011, 05:58:29 PM
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liverpool-and-Sunderland-in-pole-position-as-Newcastle-pull-out-of-Wigan-Charles-N-Zogbia-race-article749885.html (http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liverpool-and-Sunderland-in-pole-position-as-Newcastle-pull-out-of-Wigan-Charles-N-Zogbia-race-article749885.html)

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blackwatch78efc on June 20, 2011, 06:08:36 PM
its amazing how similar all these threads are,

Evertin linked with player.
Fans discuss weather they like or dislike this player.
Fans argue, go off topic, talk about some hot bird or efcrazz's girlfreind,
Then fans get back on topic as player signs elsewhere.
Fans moan about the board, money, how its a disgrace and somehow they never quiet saw it coming.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Sprooly on June 20, 2011, 06:08:48 PM
http://www.facebook.com/# (http://www.facebook.com/#)!/pages/Premier-League/113227922034252
thats not an official page...
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: .Rimbo. on June 20, 2011, 06:34:55 PM
Absolute disgrace if true. We won't have the opportunity to sign anyone as good or ideal as Charles N'Zogbia in this window for me.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on June 20, 2011, 06:42:45 PM
Absolute disgrace if true. We won't have the opportunity to sign anyone as good or ideal as Charles N'Zogbia in this window for me.

Totally with this. He is exactly what we need, even before a striker imo. It's fucking criminal that we don't even seem* to compete for signatures like this.

* I say seem because I really don't know what goes on behind the scenes, but we only ever seem to be tentatively linked with players of this caliber and I never see anything that actually seems like we are ever close to actually pulling it off (That's what she said (I couldn't resist)).
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: kunal32 on June 20, 2011, 06:58:05 PM
You can just picture it.We loose 2 out of our 3 opening leagues games, draw the other, in which time no players have been brought in during the summer. On transfer deadline day Moyes is scrambling around 'intending' to bring in some players and so some business - IF HE CAN. We then end up with some loanee striker from another premier league club, who can't even get into their squad.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 20, 2011, 07:18:27 PM
 This is where my Karma (I think it's daft to be honest, there's no need for it - it's annoying) rating is going to take a real battering here - but, I need to get this this off my chest.

 I would say it's safe to say that 98% of Evertonians are currently p*ssed off. I have three sons, 31, 30, 25 (ages), all blueboys, like myself.
 Now we all like a laugh & a joke but our humour (at home) regarding Everton, is gallows humour - it's the only way to let off steam regarding the turmoils of the club we support. Every other forum I visit the general 'feel' is the same from Evertonians - one of depression, so we are not alone.
 On one such forum there is a tasty bit of ratshit, claiming that a couple of 'supposed' Evertonians 'know' inside info'.
 This 'info', in essence, is that Kenwright has lost confidence in Moyes, and when he goes, Kenwright will install Dave Jones (the man he really wants) as the next Everton Manager (I feel sick just typing this).
 Is this absolute camel shit, it most probably is, but the point I'm trying to make is that the vast majority of Evertonians really are getting fucked-up in the head.

 Now, the real reason for getting something off my chest is this :-

 We do what we do at the moment - talking & typing doom and gloom at and the same time (currently). Now, two of my lads follow this 'twitter' bullshit, they are following 'twitters' by a number of our current players who are holidaying in Barbados.

 My lads are telling me the conversations that are taking place between (as an example) Cahill, Neville, and Coleman.
 
 The crux of the matter is - whilst we (the majority of Evertonians in forums) are chocker-block with angst, our players are having the time of their lives (I do understand 'banter').

 In conclusion. We take our club so seriously it actually hurts. Some of our players however, because of their lucky lifestyles, are totally detached from what born & bred Evertonians are truly feeling practically every day.

 This situation has me with a very sour taste in my mouth.




Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gary Iceman on June 20, 2011, 07:38:21 PM
thats not an official page...
i didnt say it was official fella, i just said i got it from the premier league fb page, they were right about mcleish leavin brum to go to villa though.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gary Iceman on June 20, 2011, 07:40:02 PM
This is where my Karma (I think it's daft to be honest, there's no need for it - it's annoying) rating is going to take a real battering here - but, I need to get this this off my chest.

 I would say it's safe to say that 98% of Evertonians are currently p*ssed off. I have three sons, 31, 30, 25 (ages), all blueboys, like myself.
 Now we all like a laugh & a joke but our humour regarding Everton is gallows humour - it's the only way to let off steam regarding the turmoils of the club we support. Every other forum I visit the general 'feel' is the same from Evertonians - one of depression, so we are not alone.
 On one such forum there is a tasty bit of ratshit, claiming that a couple of 'supposed Evertonians 'know' inside info'.
 This 'info', in essence, is that Kenwright has lost confidence in Moyes, and when he goes, Kenwright will install Dave Jones (the man he really wants) as the next Everton Manager (I feel sick just typing this).
 Is this absolute camel shit, it most probably is, but the point I'm trying to make is that the vast majority of Evertonians really are getting fucked-up in the head.

 Now, the real reason for getting something off my chest is this :-

 We do what we do at the moment - talking & typing doom and gloom at and the same time (now), because two of my lads follow this 'twitter' bullshit, they are following 'twitters' by a number of our current players who are holidaying in Barbados.

 My lads are telling me the conversations that are taking place between (as an example) Cahill, Neville, and Coleman.
 
 The crux of the matter is - whilst we (the majority of Evertonians in forums) are chocker-block with angst, our players are having the time of their lives (I do understand 'banter').

 In conclusion. We take our club so seriously it actually hurts. Some of our players however, because of their lucky lifestyles, are totally detached from what born & bred Evertonians are truly feeling practically every day.

 This situation has me with a very sour taste in my mouth.





dont worry about it fella,just look at mine..
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: evertonjoe on June 20, 2011, 07:40:06 PM
i didnt say it was official fella, i just said i got it from the premier league fb page, they were right about mcleish leavin brum to go to villa though.

Hope they're inaccurate this time, the last thing we need is Liverpool actually making sensible signings.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Sprooly on June 20, 2011, 07:40:24 PM
i didnt say it was official fella, i just said i got it from the premier league fb page, they were right about mcleish leavin brum to go to villa though.
I jumped to conclusions when you said the premier league page on facebook
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gary Iceman on June 20, 2011, 07:43:26 PM
Hope they're inaccurate this time, the last thing we need is Liverpool actually making sensible signings.

i hope there inaccurate myself. makes me sick how they were starting to go downhill and some fucker comes along and says here you go heres a bottomless pit of cash, go and make this team great again..
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 20, 2011, 07:44:27 PM
 
 dont worry about it fella,just look at mine..

 Gaz, now that, made me smile - cheers, good buddy.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on June 20, 2011, 07:49:09 PM
i hope there inaccurate myself. makes me sick how they were starting to go downhill and some fucker comes along and says here you go heres a bottomless pit of cash, go and make this team great again..

I actually thought he'd come in, steady the ship and basically do nothing. I'm fucking devastated they're throwing the cash about like Max Mosley at a Hitlers Bunker fetish party.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 20, 2011, 07:51:26 PM
 
 I'm fucking devastated they're throwing the cash about like Max Mosley at a Hitlers Bunker fetish party.

 Craig, that is funny as f*ck - cheers for the laugh, fella'.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on June 20, 2011, 07:56:26 PM
They still haven't addressed their actually weaknesses yet though (lack of a winger, another striker needed and pretty much the defence).  It's annoying seeing them shit their money away (but also a little bit funny) but King Kenny so far, hasn't been any more adept at addressing Liverpool's weaknesses than any of the others.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 20, 2011, 08:11:26 PM
They still haven't addressed their actually weaknesses yet though (lack of a winger, another striker needed and pretty much the defence).  It's annoying seeing them shit their money away (but also a little bit funny) but King Kenny so far, hasn't been any more adept at addressing Liverpool's weaknesses than any of the others.


 I hear what you're saying, Sile'.

 For me, and I know this may come across as 'bitter as fuck', but the one consolation I see is the pressure that will escalate in KD's fragile mind in having to win a 19th title to get back on terms with Manchester United - anything short of this is failure.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on June 20, 2011, 08:13:44 PM

 I hear what you're saying, Sile'.

 For me, and I know this may come across as 'bitter as fuck', but the one consolation I see is the pressure that will escalate in KD's fragile mind in having to win a 19th title to get back on terms with Manchester United.



Aye pressure he and the fans have brought on themselves which makes it all the more glorious.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 20, 2011, 08:14:35 PM
Aye pressure he and the fans have brought on themselves which makes it all the more glorious.


 Absolutely, 100% correct.


Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Dublin Toffee on June 21, 2011, 01:50:00 AM
Have we definitely conceded defeat on this one then?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: efcraz on June 21, 2011, 01:54:43 AM
its amazing how similar all these threads are,

Evertin linked with player.
Fans discuss weather they like or dislike this player.
Fans argue, go off topic, talk about some hot bird or efcrazz's girlfreind,
Then fans get back on topic as player signs elsewhere.
Fans moan about the board, money, how its a disgrace and somehow they never quiet saw it coming.

 lolol

cant believe some make such a big deal of that tbh

gotta laugh though
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: charlatan on June 21, 2011, 02:19:44 AM
They still haven't addressed their actually weaknesses yet though (lack of a winger, another striker needed and pretty much the defence).

You say that, but I'm more concerned at our weaknesses, which aren't just the lack of a winger and a striker, but two of each.  I'll be greatly surprised if we end up with 1 of either
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on June 21, 2011, 04:02:18 AM
You say that, but I'm more concerned at our weaknesses, which aren't just the lack of a winger and a striker, but two of each.  I'll be greatly surprised if we end up with 1 of either

Spot on
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on June 21, 2011, 06:53:20 AM
Absolutely ridiculous. And all because despite the sales of Steven Pienaar and James Vaughan, and the loan fees received for Yakubu in January, the Sky TV money and the selling of Bellefield all received over the last 12 months, we couldn't find £4.5m as a down payment?

I'd love to say i'm surprised, but i'm not, and the fact that the team we could be loosing out to is a team that 6 months ago were basically in administration, but have spent in excess of £50m since January, only finished a place above us in the league and are our local rivals galls me.

Whilst we have a board and the majority of fans have no ambition, this is the best we're going to get in the near future i'm afraid.

I said it then (and got slated for it) but will say it again: they were in a very bad place, but got taken over by some very good owners. Good things happen when that happens to a club. 
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: the roy vernon plan on June 21, 2011, 09:25:33 AM
Agree with you on that Montana.

And that is why Kenright's selfishness in not identifying a good purchaser
for the club in seven years is so difficult to accept. We all know that N'zogbia
is exactly what we need. A tricky, pacy goalscoring winger. Like so many on this
site I would argue it is the weakest part of the team.

With N'zogbia and one more classy signing, albeit Deffour or Adam or whoever, EFC could be a real
top 4 threat. We are so close on so many levels but we are lumbered with Kenright.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Confucius on June 21, 2011, 12:49:51 PM
Agree with you on that Montana.

And that is why Kenright's selfishness in not identifying a good purchaser
for the club in seven years is so difficult to accept. We all know that N'zogbia
is exactly what we need. A tricky, pacy goalscoring winger. Like so many on this
site I would argue it is the weakest part of the team.

With N'zogbia and one more classy signing, albeit Deffour or Adam or whoever, EFC could be a real
top 4 threat. We are so close on so many levels but we are lumbered with Kenright.

But it could also be argued that even tho he has made mistakes, we are so close to being a top 4 team because of Kenwright.

I fully expect the next post to be a Nomorechang thesis on why Kenwright is Satan.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: bluedavey on June 21, 2011, 12:51:22 PM
As much as I wish we had new owners the likelihood if it was a straight choice between us and Liverpool he would choose them.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: christiffa25 on June 21, 2011, 02:38:40 PM
This is the deal that bugs me the most out of all our rumoured targets

Everton need quality winger - Wigan selling said winger at fair price

Everton pissing around trying to raise some funds or busy telling moyes not to bother with said player as we can not afford

Said player signs for someone else

Everton announce we were never in for him and the breaking news is that an everton player has recovered from injury or signed a new deal with the club and will be like a new signing!

We must be the most skint team in the perm it's embarrassing and tbh I don't see how
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: the roy vernon plan on June 21, 2011, 03:59:27 PM
You would have to the talents of Confucius to argue that the charlatan Kenright had anything
to do with Everton's relative success under Moyes.
He has not put one penny into the club, he was behind Kirkby, missing out on Kings' Dock, swearing
blind that Rooney would stay before floggong him, the Fortess Fund debacle and a hundred more lies.
   
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: charlatan on June 21, 2011, 04:11:29 PM
You would have to the talents of Confucius to argue that the charlatan

Sweet FA to do with me kidda ;)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blue slug on June 21, 2011, 04:45:44 PM
This Nzogbia saga is doing my head in. We will not sign him because Kenwright is a complete turd with no ambition or money even though its blatantley what we need to move forward. If we have the pienaar and vaughan money which is about £5m if i am not mistaken then how can we not afford the £4.5m down payment. Add to this that we should be getting in a further say £5-7m from the sale of yak and yobo, to me it just doesnt stack up
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on June 21, 2011, 04:53:02 PM
debt/wages etc even if we sell itl prob go the never ending debt. sadly so we cant buy anybody hence wel  miss out on good players.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: BordBlue on June 21, 2011, 05:20:39 PM
Why is there ten pages abt a player the club has stopped talking about
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Norwegiantoffee on June 21, 2011, 08:03:39 PM
Why is there ten pages abt a player the club has stopped talking about
Because we are still working on a deal for him
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on June 21, 2011, 08:19:15 PM
Because we are still working on a deal for him

Has there been any quotes from anyone that it would take to conclude this sort of deal?

Wigan? Everton? the lad himself? his agent?

So far all i've seen is various media reports and hot air websites like wetalkbollocks.com.

Not saying there's not anything been discussed, but there's also nothing confirmed to say we're in talks.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: the roy vernon plan on June 21, 2011, 08:29:12 PM
I think the possible N'Zogbia transfer sums up the EFC predicament. He should be
a priority for us and we all recognize that he could solve one of our weak areas but
Kenright can't make it happen.   
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 21, 2011, 08:41:35 PM
I think the possible N'Zogbia transfer sums up the EFC predicament. He should be
a priority for us and we all recognize that he could solve one of our weak areas but
Kenright can't make it happen.    

 Yes, but as mgp says, is there any link where David Moyes has actually indicated he wouldn't mind having Charles N'Zogbia. Is there the possibilty, because we know Moyes likes his 'grafters', N'Zogbia is, for want of a better description - too flambouyant.

 Just a thought.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: evertonjoe on June 21, 2011, 08:45:00 PM
Yes, but as mgp says, is there any link where David Moyes has actually indicated he wouldn't mind having Charles N'Zogbia. Is there the possibilty, because we know Moyes likes his 'grafters', N'Zogbia is, for want of a better description - too flambouyant.

 Just a thought.

Doubtful.

Arteta wasn't really a grafter when he signed and Bily most certainly doesn't fit that stereotype.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 21, 2011, 08:47:18 PM
Doubtful.

Arteta wasn't really a grafter when he signed and Bily most certainly doesn't fit that stereotype.


 Great response, Joe - a terrific 'for instance'.


 He (N'Zogbia) must be in the circumference of David Moyes' radar.

                                                       ;)






Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 21, 2011, 09:03:03 PM
 One or two fellow posters are suggesting 'is there really any need for such a huge talking conversation that has developed' (this thread).

 My answer is yes.

 If Si' is right and EFC 'people' (at the club) read the Everton forums - this topic should be a clear indication of what the majority of Evertonians want to happen.

                                                                                  NSNO
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on June 21, 2011, 09:17:07 PM
Why is there ten pages abt a player the club has stopped talking about

Because it beats the hell out of speculating about Jay Bothroyd's future.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 21, 2011, 09:19:24 PM
Because it beats the hell out of speculating about Jay Bothroyd's future.


                                                                     :clap:

 And, look at the tremendous set of of jugs on Montana's female.

                                                                      :thumbsup:



Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on June 21, 2011, 09:25:39 PM
One or two fellow posters are suggesting 'is there really any need for such a huge talking conversation that has developed' (this thread).

 My answer is yes.

 If Si' is right and EFC 'people' (at the club) read the Everton forums - this topic should be a clear indication of what the majority of Evertonians want to happen.

                                                                                  NSNO

Brilliant.... FUCK OFF KENWRIGHT!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 21, 2011, 09:30:43 PM
 
 The initiator of this thread 'School of Science' - couldn't be more apt.




Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ong-Timus Prime on June 21, 2011, 09:49:58 PM
Was in the Newcastle Journal that the barcodes are balking at his agents fees, that and his wage demand of 60,000 a week.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 21, 2011, 10:08:04 PM
Was in the Newcastle Journal that the barcodes are balking at his agents fees, that and his wage demand of 60,000 a week.


 There is no two-ways about it, O-TP - that this is one of the primary factors where there is a good chance that ultimately the attempting to get N'Zogbia will most probably end in failure.

 The drum I am banging however, is that Bill Kenwright has to accept, no matter how much he bleats-on regarding (in essence) that there is no better 'key-holder' of the club anywhere else in the world, that there are certain duties, as said key-holder, that he must address.

 Bill Kenwright has to accept that practically every football club is in debt (we are not alone) and there has to come a point when 'nettles have to be grasped'.

 If he can't understand this, for progression sake, then he is letting down every Evertonian, whether they be man, woman, or child.

 There's a certain kind of possible future to be faced here - I feel it is now.

 I am not saying that the acquisition of Charles N'Zogbia will end all our woes. I am saying though, (in my opinion) the signing of Charlie would be a fantastic step forward.






Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on June 21, 2011, 11:37:40 PM

 There is no two-ways about it, O-TP - that this is one of the primary factors where there is a good chance that ultimately the attempting to get N'Zogbia will most probably end in failure.

 The drum I am banging however, is that Bill Kenwright has to accept, no matter how much he bleats-on regarding (in essence) that there is no better 'key-holder' of the club anywhere else in the world, that there are certain duties, as said key-holder, that he must address.

 Bill Kenwright has to accept that practically every football club is in debt (we are not alone) and there has to come a point when 'nettles have to be grasped'.

 If he can't understand this, for progression sake, then he is letting down every Evertonian, whether they be man, woman, or child.

 There's a certain kind of possible future to be faced here - I feel it is now.

 I am not saying that the acquisition of Charles N'Zogbia will end all our woes. I am saying though, (in my opinion) the signing of Charlie would be a fantastic step forward.

Top post agree word for word!







Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 21, 2011, 11:41:01 PM



 I'm made-up you've said 'word for word' SoS - (no messin') I've edited it about 16 times.

                                                                    :headbang:

                                                                     :thumbsup:





Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on June 21, 2011, 11:52:15 PM

 I'm made-up you've said 'word for word' SoS - (no messin') I've edited it about 16 times.

                                                                    :headbang:

                                                                     :thumbsup:

You must be like me mate a one finger typist,i swear i have no finger print on my right index finger! One thing about this Nzogbia thing i swear i will lose all faith in Moyes if we sign Brown (31) from man u and dont get Nzogbia because were shoret of the £4.5 mill down payment!.






Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 22, 2011, 12:10:53 AM
You must be like me mate a one finger typist

 I'm embarrassed to say, I am.

 i swear i have no finger print on my right index finger!

 Laughin' like a loon, good-buddy.

 One thing about this Nzogbia thing i swear i will lose all faith in Moyes if we sign Brown (31) from man u and dont get Nzogbia because were shoret of the £4.5 mill down payment!.

 Agreed, on your N'Zogbia statement, fella'.

 Regarding our constant attraction with Man.Utd., players - (personally) I find it outrageously comical.


                                                                                        :thumbsup:

Title: Joyous
Post by: Bily No Pace on June 22, 2011, 12:20:00 AM
hahah this thread has turned out amazing. it's like listening to two old men at a busstop.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 22, 2011, 12:23:54 AM
hahah this thread has turned out amazing. it's like listening to two old men at a busstop.


 Might you also call it 'cordial conversation between two passionate Evertonians', Bily?

                                                                 :-*

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on June 22, 2011, 03:32:36 AM

 There is no two-ways about it, O-TP - that this is one of the primary factors where there is a good chance that ultimately the attempting to get N'Zogbia will most probably end in failure.

 The drum I am banging however, is that Bill Kenwright has to accept, no matter how much he bleats-on regarding (in essence) that there is no better 'key-holder' of the club anywhere else in the world, that there are certain duties, as said key-holder, that he must address.

 Bill Kenwright has to accept that practically every football club is in debt (we are not alone) and there has to come a point when 'nettles have to be grasped'.

 If he can't understand this, for progression sake, then he is letting down every Evertonian, whether they be man, woman, or child.

 There's a certain kind of possible future to be faced here - I feel it is now.

 I am not saying that the acquisition of Charles N'Zogbia will end all our woes. I am saying though, (in my opinion) the signing of Charlie would be a fantastic step forward.








Great post, Sir.

Those nettles should have been grasped 5 years ago though,  when we finished 4th.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 22, 2011, 03:42:22 AM
 
 Those nettles should have been grasped 5 years ago though,  when we finished 4th.


 I'd have to agree with that, Jonn'.

 And this (yours) valid statement surely, if put before a Crown Court on the the charges of gross negligence, would find Bill Kenwright guilty.

 Yet the man is still at large.






Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blackwatch78efc on June 22, 2011, 04:47:22 AM
i oddly disagree that  billy liar should stick his neck out by increasing our debt signing players beyond our budget. Strangely though as i posted the exact same thing 5 years, believing that if we could just add that little extra quality by taking the gamble it could maybe pay off. Billy liar didnt then and i now believe the chance has actually gone. I now think that even if we spent 30 million this summer it wouldnt actually guarentee anything better than 7th, even stranger is that with moyes i actually think we could get 7th again without spending anything this summer..........so whats the point?

Sadly, i feel this is why so many evertonians are frustrated, bored and angry with things at the moment. Basically the club is in a horrible middle ground limbo where we know we wont push on, but wont go downward too much neither.

John motson got it spot on, when on the last day of last season he was asked about next season. His comment was this, 'next year should be a great season, You have the top 6 who will spend heavily to push on and compete for the title. Then you have 13 teams battling it out, hoping to avoid getting dragged into a relegation battle...............then of course you have everton'.

No word of a lie thats what he said, it made me laugh cos as much as i hate to think of the media darling top 4, or 6, or wherever they cut us off.........its sadly true.





 
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 22, 2011, 05:09:16 AM
 Basically the club is in a horrible middle ground limbo where we know we wont push on,  

 Correct db78, but the position is so precarious that, in my opinion, that leaves Dave Moyes inside a bubble of damned if he can't, and damned if he's allowed adequate funds - many blues are agreed that David Moyes is at his best in the transfer market with relatively small player buys/investments - he seems to falter with the 6/7/8+ million pound purchases.
 Don't forget that Moyes, with our financial position, always actually walks the high-wire with the aid of a safety net (the idea that his hands are financially tied - so the fall, if it or they should happen, is/are somewhat under protection). To be honest, it's not really a bad position to be in.

i oddly disagree that  billy liar should stick his neck out by increasing our debt signing players beyond our budget.

 Some might say that philosophy (in the area we are talking), is just waiting for a mighty fall.

I now think that even if we spent 30 million this summer it wouldnt actually guarentee anything better than 7th, even stranger is that with moyes i actually think we could get 7th again without spending anything this summer..........so whats the point?

 I don't agree with this notion. The reason being - I have the personal character of (if I were in a position of such possible success as a professional football manager), 'come on, give me the opportunity to show you what I'm really made of, please'.

 Therefore, if I was in Moyes' positon and I was given the opportunity to a) tread-water, or b) show me the money, because personally I really do have the belief in my ability, with £30m at my disposal, to make any opposition really fear us and get back into at least a top 4 finish.
 I (if I were David Moyes) would choose b) every time.

 The point of this endevour would be to put everyone in the picture (if you're interested) that I demand to show my top-drawer managerial prowess with a sizeable spending amount at my disposal.
 I wouldn't consider it as folly. For me, I want to show you how good I really can be.

 Oh yeah, one last point - I personally think poor old John Motson has developed Alzheimer’s.

 
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blackwatch78efc on June 22, 2011, 06:04:23 AM
I understand what your saying and as a fan i would love to see moyes given the chance to spend too. If i was a manager i would definately want the opportunity also, BUT what i was trying to say was i dont think it would be a wise decision to take the gamble anymore. 5 years ago there was a window of opportunity, city were'nt the spenders they are today and we could of had spurs and liverpool beat had we spent. However that was then, now city are spending and hopes of the top 4 are a dream.........and spending 30 million plus for 5th makes no sense at all. If you were running a business and you could get the same results (whatever they may be) by spending nothing or by spending 30 million, what would you do? Basically billy liar is laughing his arse off, whilst we wait for moyes to eventually move on to wherever that may be. Nothing ever changes, we finish mid table (just off the top spots) year after year and spend less than nothing. Its boring cos the hope has gone, the dream if you like and as a result we moan about moyes and almost everything else just cos we can. Funny thing is its not actually just a problem for everton, i honestly think its aa problem with football in general. Its dictated by money and has no level playing field, its like watching the olympics 100 metres and saying that 8 runners will have there arms tied behind there back and 2 wont.............UNFAIR. Ive thought this for a long time. 
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 22, 2011, 06:32:52 AM
 BUT what i was trying to say was i dont think it would be a wise decision to take the gamble anymore. 5 years ago there was a window of opportunity, city were'nt the spenders they are today and we could of had spurs and liverpool beat had we spent. However that was then, now city are spending and hopes of the top 4 are a dream.........and spending 30 million plus for 5th makes no sense at all.

 Ahh, I see your point clearly now, dp - but isn't that a defeatist attitude - and maybe even forgiven to thinking 'what's the point in carrying on'.

If you were running a business and you could get the same results (whatever they may be) by spending nothing or by spending 30 million, what would you do?

 I feel that is a little bit different in that 'an everyday business' isn't the same as the football industry (if I can call it that).
 But, if I was in charge of an ordinary everyday type of business, say like I've already made my mark as already established, then I would say - I have done my bit and I've suceeded, so there would be no need to spend more & get the same results. In that sense your view is logical.

its like watching the olympics 100 metres and saying that 8 runners will have there arms tied behind there back and 2 wont.............UNFAIR. Ive thought this for a long time.

 I like that analogy, and my only comment is - sometimes, for whatever reason, when in an Olympic 100m final (as an example), you can finally stop finishing 4th and actually win the gold medal - I saw this happen (on television) many moons ago with a Scottish runner, Allan Wells (1980 - Moscow).
.
 In conclusion, my philosophy is - if you have belief in yourself - never throw the towel in, no matter how long, or tough, the road is, or appears to look.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blackwatch78efc on June 22, 2011, 06:49:03 AM
I admire your positive outlook fp, but sadly i gave up the dream of winning gold a long time ago. Imo as long as we have our current owner in place, we will only ever run (like a headless chicken) to stand still or eventually go backwards.
I said all this years ago to many on here and was told i was wrong, the only thing to change in those years is that instead of finishing 4th or 5th we now finish 7th or 8th. I dont have a defeatist attitude and i'm not giving up, simply because its not my battle. At the end of the day we are fans, but we cant actually do anything about it. Its horrible, but its out of our hands and the hard facts are we're run by a board that will never get it done.     
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: jongre123 on June 22, 2011, 06:50:34 AM
I admire your positive outlook fp, but sadly i gave up the dream of winning gold a long time ago. Imo as long as we have our current owner in place, we will only ever run (like a headless chicken) to stand still or eventually go backwards.
I said all this years ago to many on here and was told i was wrong, the only thing to change in those years is that instead of finishing 4th or 5th we now finish 7th or 8th. I dont have a defeatist attitude and i'm not giving up, simply because its not my battle. At the end of the day we are fans, but we cant actually do anything about it. Its horrible, but its out of our hands and the hard facts are we're run by a board that will never get it done.     

Next year we will be 1st.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blackwatch78efc on June 22, 2011, 06:59:01 AM
1st in the league of 'spending the least amount of money' maybe lol
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Sharky on June 22, 2011, 11:55:51 AM
What a stupid idea 'everyone else is in debt so it doesnt matter' it does fucking matter because we'll go into administration sell ALL our players and get relegated. I dont want the merseyside derby to be against fucking tranmere rovers.

Not signing N'Zogbia is because of possibbly 3 reasons. The 1st two are more likely than the third.
1. He wants £60,000 a week. Would he be the 2nd best player at the club? Would he fuck.

2. Moyes doesnt want him. Just because you think he'd improve our team doesnt mean Moyes does, where are the quotes we even wanted him in the first place?
3. We cant afford £4.5million despite selling Vaughan and Pienaar for £4.5million.

Money from the bellefeild should not be used for transfers or wages. A physical land assett would never be sold for a player whos return sell on fee could be less than the outgoing fee. Example: Kouldrup.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on June 22, 2011, 12:02:18 PM
Even if the land sale fee isn't applied directly to buying players, you would hope it would be applied to things like debt service that might have sponged up money that could be used to buy new players.

And it may well yet. The summer transfer window is young and we tend not to pull anything through it until it's hours from falling into its grave.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: christiffa25 on June 22, 2011, 02:36:32 PM
I'm pretty sure as skint as we are we can afford reported 4.5M downpayment for him with extra fee Mill coming later in window.

I think as said u have to wonder if moyes is infact that interested in him. If he was I'm sure he would be all over this one as he already said wants to get business done early. I personally think he wants djalio and if nothing works out there he could then step up intrest but who knows there could be others we know nothing about ( remember Fellani)

So let's not get to disheartened that we'v not snapped him up!

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: gwells on June 22, 2011, 06:09:14 PM
I know its only on Football Rumours but it mentions Nzogbia coming as part of a swap with Bily going the other way! I would like that option
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 22, 2011, 06:52:00 PM
I admire your positive outlook fp, but sadly i gave up the dream of winning gold a long time ago. Imo as long as we have our current owner in place, we will only ever run (like a headless chicken) to stand still or eventually go backwards.
I said all this years ago to many on here and was told i was wrong, the only thing to change in those years is that instead of finishing 4th or 5th we now finish 7th or 8th. I dont have a defeatist attitude and i'm not giving up, simply because its not my battle. At the end of the day we are fans, but we cant actually do anything about it. Its horrible, but its out of our hands and the hard facts are we're run by a board that will never get it done.    


  I dont have a defeatist attitude and i'm not giving up, simply because its not my battle.

 Fair do's, db.
 I would say that if you have a strong grievance, a passionate feel (in this case) for EFC - and you certainly have, moreover if you happen to be putting money in the coffers of the club, ie a season ticket-holder - then, possiby, it is your battle to try to right things that you feel are just wrong.


  At the end of the day we are fans, but we cant actually do anything about it.

 In numbers, in a footballing aspect, fans can change something they are deeply passionate about. As an example, when the blue-tide turned against Agent Johnson, I would suggest, privately, he might have actually feared for his well-being, and subsequently couldn't break ties with EFC quick enough.


 Its horrible, but its out of our hands and the hard facts are we're run by a board that will never get it done.

 I would say because following a football team/club is so emotive, force of talk, deeds, and action(s), by a ground-swell of support, means that in a weird kind of way, we (Everton followers) should always possess the ace card for change - if that's the overall consensus of opinion.
 For me, our board (I believe) really do believe that they do no wrong. Are they living in a fantasy land?

 I think that answer lies in the little grey cells of every Evertonian.

                                                                                  :thumbsup:



 Addition.

 Something I have just spied might interest you, db.

 Another blueboy (Darren Melling) is as dismayed as your good self, so much so he has penned an e-mail to our CEO - here's the link :-

 http://www.royalbluemersey.com/2011/6/22/2236817/an-email-to-mr-elstone-ceo (http://www.royalbluemersey.com/2011/6/22/2236817/an-email-to-mr-elstone-ceo)



Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: .Rimbo. on June 22, 2011, 09:12:53 PM
I asked Greg O'Keefe on twitter what he thought the chances of us signing N'Zogbia were, to which he replied:

GregOK Greg O'Keeffe
@rimbo90 I'd say there's an outside chance yeah, but it'll be difficult and depend on a few things
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 22, 2011, 09:15:07 PM

 I know this might sound really silly, Rim' - who's Greg O'Keefe.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: evertonjoe on June 22, 2011, 09:16:20 PM
I know this might sound really silly, Rim' - who's Greg O'Keefe.

Echo's Everton correspondent.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 22, 2011, 09:17:59 PM
Echo's Everton correspondent.


 What a doofus (I am).
             :blush:

 Cheers, Joe.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Krissy on June 22, 2011, 09:26:47 PM
I asked Greg O'Keefe on twitter what he thought the chances of us signing N'Zogbia were, to which he replied:

GregOK Greg O'Keeffe
@rimbo90 I'd say there's an outside chance yeah, but it'll be difficult and depend on a few things

Did he say what it depended on, ie player sales ? And what sort of whack does N'Zogbia want ?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on June 22, 2011, 09:35:27 PM
It depends on no other club wanting to sign him.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Krissy on June 22, 2011, 09:58:32 PM
It depends on no other club wanting to sign him.

Yer and even then we can still blow it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on June 22, 2011, 10:21:34 PM
darren melling? i know him. and give the nzobia thing a rest were not signing him.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 22, 2011, 10:26:24 PM
 

 and give the nzobia thing a rest were not signing him

 Do you mean in general (on the whole), Matt.


Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on June 22, 2011, 10:32:40 PM
i mean in general if we had the money id say "theres a chance" i know we have no money to sign him so its but a pipedream. and exuse my spelling "nzogbia"
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 22, 2011, 10:45:33 PM
 Cheers for the reply, Matt, appreciated.

 My response is, it is a damn shame that it might be correct to suggest that it can be/could be/is considered a 'pipe-dream'. I personally think N'Zogbia is ten-fold the player (as an example) poor old Diniyar Bilyaletdinov is, or ever will be.

  
 Message to Dave Moyes :

 (No offence intended - just an honest opinion).

 Your signing of Bily is and was a bad, bad, call, on your part.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: cantoffee on June 22, 2011, 11:03:40 PM
I don't think signing N'Zogbia is a pipe dream. Realistically, if we were to sell Yobo and the Yak we should be able to get at least 6 million between the two of them, lump that in with money from Pienaar and Vaughan and I have little doubt we could afford him. Who knows, if Mucha and Bily go as well we will certainly be able to afford N'Zgobia, even after any money that is put towards debt.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 22, 2011, 11:10:22 PM
I don't think signing N'Zogbia is a pipe dream. Realistically, if we were to sell Yobo and the Yak we should be able to get at least 6 million between the two of them, lump that in with money from Pienaar and Vaughan and I have little doubt we could afford him. Who knows, if Mucha and Bily go as well we will certainly be able to afford N'Zgobia, even after any money that is put towards debt.


 That, Canto' - is the post of utmost positivity.

                                     :clap:


Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on June 22, 2011, 11:14:27 PM

 That, Canto' - is the post of utmost positivity.

                                     :clap:




And dont forget the money under the Goodison carpets and down the sofa  ;D
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 22, 2011, 11:20:07 PM
And dont forget the money under the Goodison carpets and down the sofa  ;D



                                                                    lolol

                                                                    lolol



                                                   
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: cantoffee on June 22, 2011, 11:20:47 PM
And dont forget the money under the Goodison carpets and down the sofa  ;D

Sorry for trying to bring a bit of realism here. Like signing N'Zogbia is completely out of our reach, it's certainly a possibility depending on outgoings.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on June 22, 2011, 11:22:57 PM
I don't think signing N'Zogbia is a pipe dream. Realistically, if we were to sell Yobo and the Yak we should be able to get at least 6 million between the two of them, lump that in with money from Pienaar and Vaughan and I have little doubt we could afford him. Who knows, if Mucha and Bily go as well we will certainly be able to afford N'Zgobia, even after any money that is put towards debt.

Potentially getting rid of 6 players to bring in one.

Its the everton way.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 22, 2011, 11:23:38 PM
Sorry for trying to bring a bit of realism here. Like signing N'Zogbia is completely out of our reach, it's certainly a possibility depending on outgoings.



                                                                                                :clap:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 22, 2011, 11:25:15 PM
Potentially getting rid of 6 players to bring in one.

Its the everton way.



 And let's be honest, the 6 players Canto' mentions are either hasbeens, with one an anomoly, or, absolutely shite.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on June 23, 2011, 12:04:02 AM
Should we have to sell 3 or 4 players so we can sign 1? No.  It doesn't mean N'Zogbia is out of reach it just means that we will have to sacrifice players to get him.  Greg O Keefe said it would be possible but would depend on a number of factors.  I presume those factors are getting rid of a few players.  Hopefully we can do that before someone else snaps him up.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: cantoffee on June 23, 2011, 12:06:24 AM
Potentially getting rid of 6 players to bring in one.

Its the everton way.

Well (As FP pointed out) Yak, Yobo, Vaughan and Mucha are surplus requirement and wanted/want out and Pienaar has already been sold. Bily, let's be honest, is never going to make it. I'm also not saying we'd only bring in one player, the point I was trying to make was that N'Zogbia is certainly not out of our reach by any means.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on June 23, 2011, 12:09:01 AM
Well (As FP pointed out) Yak, Yobo, Vaughan and Mucha are surplus requirement and wanted/want out and Pienaar has already been sold. Bily, let's be honest, is never going to make it. I'm also not saying we'd only bring in one player, the point I was trying to make was that N'Zogbia is certainly not out of our reach by any means.

Yep, he is within reach we just need to stretch a bit ;)

The issue is whether we will replace the outgoing players or start to rely on youth.  I wouldn't be adverse to the latter considering the journeyman we would likely bring in.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on June 23, 2011, 12:10:10 AM


Cool, sell the 6 and bring in 1. We can play Baxter instead when the next injury crisis comes along.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on June 23, 2011, 12:11:33 AM

Cool, sell the 6 and bring in 1. We can play Baxter instead when the next injury crisis comes along.

No but we could play Gueye, Velios, Barkley, Duffy.  All players who to me seem primed for some first time action.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 23, 2011, 12:21:06 AM

Cool, sell the 6 and bring in 1. We can play Baxter instead when the next injury crisis comes along.

 An added bonus regarding N'Zogbia is, in the last 2 seasons, Charlie has played 70 out of 76 league (premier) games, but with a meagrerish goal tally of just 14.

 Yet the sight of Charles burning down the Goodison pitch, beating 4 opponents, and sliding a peach of a ball to the unmarked Beckford, to slam home a winning goal - would, surely, bring a tear of elation to the glass-eye of any (visually impaired) hardnosed street-ender.






Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Norwegiantoffee on June 23, 2011, 12:25:25 AM
Should we have to sell 3 or 4 players so we can sign 1? No.  It doesn't mean N'Zogbia is out of reach it just means that we will have to sacrifice players to get him.  Greg O Keefe said it would be possible but would depend on a number of factors.  I presume those factors are getting rid of a few players.  Hopefully we can do that before someone else snaps him up.

The players in question was practically offloaded last season, with them being out on loan. However I agree that we need to add to the squad. I am confident we will have a stronger squad when this transfer window closes than at the start off it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on June 23, 2011, 12:31:53 AM
The players in question was practically offloaded last season, with them being out on loan. However I agree that we need to add to the squad. I am confident we will have a stronger squad when this transfer window closes than at the start off it.

I'm not as confident but I do think we will see additions before the window closes.  It is who makes way for them that will determine whether we are stronger or not imo.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on June 23, 2011, 12:40:57 AM
No but we could play Gueye, Velios, Barkley, Duffy.  All players who to me seem primed for some first time action.

Barkley (if he's over the injury) and Gueye definately.

I doubt they will strengthen our starting 11 though, lets hope they turn out to be world beaters!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: cantoffee on June 23, 2011, 01:24:04 AM
Barkley (if he's over the injury) and Gueye definately.

I doubt they will strengthen our starting 11 though, lets hope they turn out to be world beaters!

But the 6 outgoing players aren't in the starting 11 anyways. I've given you reasons why he isn't out of reach and why it wouldn't be such a bad thing to have a few outgoings and a few less incomings if it means improving the quality of the squad. I understand that it's a shitty position to be in, but it's where we are at the moment.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 23, 2011, 03:26:24 AM
But the 6 outgoing players aren't in the starting 11 anyways. I've given you reasons why he isn't out of reach and why it wouldn't be such a bad thing to have a few outgoings and a few less incomings if it means improving the quality of the squad. I understand that it's a shitty position to be in, but it's where we are at the moment.

Agree totally, if we sold Mucha, Vaughan, Yak and Yobo and brought in a back up keeper, Nzogbia and a free transfer striker like Bothroyd, I would say it's an improvement on last seasons squad. Add to that the Pienaar money there should be about 10 mil there (2mil for Pienaar, 3mil Yak, 3mil Yobo, 2mil Vaughan) and we would be fairly close to being able to afford N'Zogbia. What would annoy me though is if we did sell those players and didn't make at least one signing deemed good enough to go straight into our starting XI
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on June 23, 2011, 03:30:28 AM
who makes up these figures? as if we sell whoever... the x amount doesnt add up (u watch) or goes missing. so to say "we can easily afford nzogbia" is a long way. beyond me how some ppl think wel actually sign him. id love us to but we wont.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 23, 2011, 03:48:44 AM
who makes up these figures? as if we sell whoever... the x amount doesnt add up (u watch) or goes missing. so to say "we can easily afford nzogbia" is a long way. beyond me how some ppl think wel actually sign him. id love us to but we wont.

I'm more in hope then expectation with N'Zogbia, I suppose I'm just speculating with the fees of those 4 players, I welcome any other suggestions for how much we got for Vaughan And Pienaar (but I'm sure the fees were around 2 million for each) and was just going on paper talk for the potential Yak and Yobo sales (3 million each must be quite realistic though)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on June 23, 2011, 03:55:23 AM
stealth id love to see moyes get this money and land who he wants for once without selling and  BUILD just cant see it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 23, 2011, 04:06:49 AM
stealth id love to see moyes get this money and land who he wants for once without selling and  BUILD just cant see it.

Yeah I agree with you. It's a pretty dire situation where the best we can hope for is to bring one good player in after selling four or five players from a not particularly large playing squad. One thing that got me after they announced the yearly figures was Elstone saying words to the effect of 'we will still try and compete for the best players', while he also suggested we wouldn't be spending much in the summer, surely the two cant go hand in hand. Unless there is some amazing players available on free transfers that I just haven't seen
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on June 23, 2011, 04:15:26 AM
hahahaha @ super free transfers tbh tho mate elstone is just another puppet hence kenwright picked him. u cant say "wel compete" and then say but moyes wont get all what "sells" fuckin idiot elstone another kenwright and co ass bandit. being an evertonian i woudnt change it for the world but being embarrased - to which this board  are doing to us themselves and the club is pathetic. i mean what club have a "board" that do fuck all every year? exept sell? whats there roles (on our board) exept being shareholders so they buy to shares to "say im on the board" of everton fc? or there greedy cunts who wants a profit even tho " were not for sale" but to dickhead who owns us " im seeking 24/7"
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 23, 2011, 05:18:20 AM
 
It's a pretty dire situation where the best we can hope for is to bring one good player in after selling four or five players from a not particularly large playing squad. By Stealth.

 And the 'not particularly large playing squad' (with too many untried, inexperienced fringe players), is perversely, why, in our current state (depleted squad numbers), that Dave Moyes must ask himself - say I did produce the feeding of the 40,000 with 11 fish, and qualified for European football - how could such a small squad compete in an extra competition - in all honesty, it is not possible.

 Bill Kenwright, you seriously are not fit to adaquately run Everton Football Club - you are not up to what is demanded.

 Am I being unreasonable? I don't think so.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: nomorechang on June 23, 2011, 11:40:19 AM

It's a pretty dire situation where the best we can hope for is to bring one good player in after selling four or five players from a not particularly large playing squad. By Stealth.

 And the 'not particularly large playing squad' (with too many untried, inexperienced fringe players), is perversely, why, in our current state (depleted squad numbers), that Dave Moyes must ask himself - say I did produce the feeding of the 40,000 with 11 fish, and qualified for European football - how could such a small squad compete in an extra competition - in all honesty, it is not possible.

 Bill Kenwright, you seriously are not fit to adaquately run Everton Football Club - you are not up to what is demanded.

 Am I being unreasonable? I don't think so.

I think what you've said there is very reasonable ... Moyes has his critics and I think in some circumstances the criticism is totally unfair , It seems now that he's in the situation of when he takes one step forward he's forced to take two steps back through no fault of his own .. be it lack of investment , unforseen injuries , loss of form of key players ... Yet he still remains loyal .. If everyone at Everton from the Chairman down to the players applied themselves with the dedication that Moyes shows to his job then we would be in a much better position
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: the roy vernon plan on June 23, 2011, 12:20:02 PM
I have tried hard to understand Kenright's motivation in hanging onto power.
He knows that because he is relatively poor he has become a glorified administrator
who can no longer drum up credit. Yet he continues on and on despite the club just
needing a couple of top players to be a challenger. This situation cannot last.

Moyes and our current crop of top players cannot stay for ever. And after Moyes, what sort
of manager can we expect?

I am banging on about N'Zogbia because he would really suit us, that not so long ago EFC
would be one of the front runners for his signature and to see our decline under Kenright really hurts.

I cannot believe that Kenright could not have found an intelligent, reasonably rich investor in seven years
 
     
 
Title: I just woke up!
Post by: Bily No Pace on June 23, 2011, 12:39:38 PM
I have tried hard to understand Kenright's motivation in hanging onto power.
He knows that because he is relatively poor he has become a glorified administrator
who can no longer drum up credit. Yet he continues on and on despite the club just
needing a couple of top players to be a challenger. This situation cannot last.

Moyes and our current crop of top players cannot stay for ever. And after Moyes, what sort
of manager can we expect?

I am banging on about N'Zogbia because he would really suit us, that not so long ago EFC
would be one of the front runners for his signature and to see our decline under Kenright really hurts.

I cannot believe that Kenright could not have found an intelligent, reasonably rich investor in seven years
 
     
 

Has any club except City, Chelsea and Tottenham? there is absolutely no indication that Adu Dhabi or Abramovich looked at us, and you have to admit that they were much better prospects than us. It's also well known that Levy is a huge Spurs fan (yea yea yea like our board). The rest of these take overs have been dreadful. Hicks and Gillette, Glazers (crippling debt), Randy Lerner (huge success at first, look at them now), Newcastle (relegation, huge fan unrest), Gold and Sullivan (relegation), Carson Yeung (relegation), Turkey Farmers (near relegation), Portsmouth (relegation, administration). By the way his name is Kenwright, not Kenright, I don't think you want to be calling him Kenright for some reason.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: the roy vernon plan on June 23, 2011, 01:54:52 PM
Nearly all those owners you have listed, Billy, have provided the manager
with funds. Some have been very generous. Other than the daylight robbery at Old Trafford
most owners have tried their best in a selfless manner. It is entirely another matter
what the various managers have achieved with those funds. Kenright has not put a penny
into the club. Fair enough, but be a good bloke and find someone with deeper pockets to have a go.

Moyes has greatly improved the team. He has made a few
duff transfers but usually he has done the biz. EFC could move onto the next level
with two more top players. Will/Can Kenright help that process?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on June 23, 2011, 02:02:12 PM
take a few more than than "two to move on to next level" what if they get injured? what if others get injured? its about strength in depth aswell as quality
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: the roy vernon plan on June 23, 2011, 02:46:13 PM
At the moment, Matty, we are as Fellani said 'Sub-top'. I said two top players
because that it is a realistic request to be made of Kenright and then we would have 5/ 6
top players and 5 good ones.

There are no really good teams in the Premier at the moment and EFC, with a little tinkling,
could give it a good go next season.
 
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on June 23, 2011, 03:05:38 PM
I know everyone is entitled to his/her opinion,but BNP can you not see in most of the cases you state,these clubs have all outspent Everton.The only reason these clubs got themselves into trouble was having a poor manager who made poor aquisitions.Now the point of this post is do you feel Nzogbia would be a good signing( replacement for Pienaar) ?,if yes do you think your beloved bill and his caring board should find that supposed £4.5 mill down payment ?.Considering he has sold Bellfield (training ground I say that because some belter on here thinks he plays for us) yes Bellfield for £8 to £10 mill.Pienaar £3 mill and Vaughn for about £2 mill if no please give me your reasons.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on June 23, 2011, 03:21:58 PM
I know everyone is entitled to his/her opinion,but BNP can you not see in most of the cases you state,these clubs have all outspent Everton.The only reason these clubs got themselves into trouble was having a poor manager who made poor aquisitions.Now the point of this post is do you feel Nzogbia would be a good signing( replacement for Pienaar) ?,if yes do you think your beloved bill and his caring board should find that supposed £4.5 mill down payment ?.Considering he has sold Bellfield (training ground I say that because some belter on here thinks he plays for us) yes Bellfield for £8 to £10 mill.Pienaar £3 mill and Vaughn for about £2 mill if no please give me your reasons.

Maybe the Bellefield money went on debt?  I would hope it would considering how much we have.  This down payment thing is all well and good but we also need to make sure we can generate the money to pay the rest off and I am not sure we can definitely do that.  If Moyes wants him here we all know he has to sell to buy, the board simply cannot get any more loans, is that down to poor management at board room level? Almost certainly but is it sensible business to try and buy players with no way of paying the fee?  We don't know how much of the Pienaar or Vaughan money has gone to servicing debt and until saleable players such as Yobo move on I think it's reasonable to not expect the signing of any cash players.
Title: Simon Bellefield
Post by: Bily No Pace on June 23, 2011, 03:28:40 PM
I know everyone is entitled to his/her opinion,but BNP can you not see in most of the cases you state,these clubs have all outspent Everton.The only reason these clubs got themselves into trouble was having a poor manager who made poor aquisitions.Now the point of this post is do you feel Nzogbia would be a good signing( replacement for Pienaar) ?,if yes do you think your beloved bill and his caring board should find that supposed £4.5 mill down payment ?.Considering he has sold Bellfield (training ground I say that because some belter on here thinks he plays for us) yes Bellfield for £8 to £10 mill.Pienaar £3 mill and Vaughn for about £2 mill if no please give me your reasons.

N'zogbia for 4.5 million? I'll believe it when I see it. Latest price Whelan is coming out with is 15mil, but believe what you will if it helps cement your opinions. Moyes is a very very good manager but you have to give credit to Kenwright for hiring him and sticking with him when he was reaching the great heights of 17th if you are going to give him stick for all the other things he's done. I have to admit Bellefield was a good player and I was gutted to see him go but it was a necessary evil to pay debt interest.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on June 23, 2011, 03:37:44 PM
N'zogbia for 4.5 million? I'll believe it when I see it. Latest price Whelan is coming out with is 15mil, but believe what you will if it helps cement your opinions. Moyes is a very very good manager but you have to give credit to Kenwright for hiring him and sticking with him when he was reaching the great heights of 17th if you are going to give him stick for all the other things he's done. I have to admit Bellefield was a good player and I was gutted to see him go but it was a necessary evil to pay debt interest.

No as I thought no answers just sarcasm,btw Billy I never said Nzogbia for £4.5 million I said that was a downpayment,and I also never said Bellfield was a player,some belter on here just sarcastically said so.But alas dont let the truth get in the way of a good story Bill,and I am still waiting for those answers,any time today mate nod
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on June 23, 2011, 03:40:04 PM
No as I thought no answers just sarcasm,btw Billy I never said Nzogbia for £4.5 million I said that was a downpayment,and I also never said Bellfield was a player,some belter on here just sarcastically said so.But alas dont let the truth get in the way of a good story Bill,and I am still waiting for those answers,any time today mate nod

Could you answer my points then mate? 
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on June 23, 2011, 04:02:25 PM
Could you answer my points then mate? 

I will try Silas,firstly respect for what you and others are tryin  to do with Everton for Change,ive got my scarf.Your point is we cant buy players until we sell even more players,I can see your reasons,and I am not daft I know were in debt though I am not privy to the information you may have.Right my answers are who got us in this mess in the first place?,secondly IMO we have one of the smallest squads in the premier league as it is,do you agree ?Thirdly we need to have ambition,our crowd average is a lot higher than most of the teams that are outspending us,that winds me up,we deserve better than what bill and the rest of his cronies are serving us,fuck-all at my last look,the board need to generate more investment mate I know its cant be easy but over 10 years 24/7 do me a favour.Sorry if I hav'ent answered what you wanted Silas,but I may not have all the answers,they are just my opinions  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on June 23, 2011, 04:13:26 PM
I will try Silas,firstly respect for what you and others are tryin  to do with Everton for Change,ive got my scarf.Your point is we cant buy players until we sell even more players,I can see your reasons,and I am not daft I know were in debt though I am not privy to the information you may have.Right my answers are who got us in this mess in the first place?,secondly IMO we have one of the smallest squads in the premier league as it is,do you agree ?Thirdly we need to have ambition,our crowd average is a lot higher than most of the teams that are outspending us,that winds me up,we deserve better than what bill and the rest of his cronies are serving us,fuck-all at my last look,the board need to generate more investment mate I know its cant be easy but over 10 years 24/7 do me a favour.Sorry if I hav'ent answered what you wanted Silas,but I may not have all the answers,they are just my opinions  :thumbsup:

Wouldn't argue that the board have put us in this position at all mate.  The problem is that now being in that position, we need to get ourselves out of it and getting ourselves into further into debt isn't the answer, ask Leeds or Portsmouth or West Ham.  It seems the club has (after the horse has bolted) decided to try and reduce the debt and get on an even keel for the future.  This isn't an exciting prospect and it isn't ambitious but, like it or not, it's probably sensible.  Undoubtedly, we need investment to progress but your argument seems to be that without investment the board should give Moyes money and increase the debt?  I am not sure we can afford to do that.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on June 23, 2011, 04:15:08 PM
Just one other thing I forgot Silas,when I started this post I pointed out is it too unreasonable to request the board between the 3 main owners give Everton their club an interest free loan between them to pay the downpayment on Nzogbia until we can sell more players to pay them back,other ways to generate funds is for the current owners to raise a share issue,have E4C brought that up with them ?,even the dispicable Johnson done that.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on June 23, 2011, 04:18:19 PM
Just one other thing I forgot Silas,when I started this post I pointed out is it too unreasonable to request the board between the 3 main owners give Everton their club an interest free loan between them to pay the downpayment on Nzogbia until we can sell more players to pay them back,other ways to generate funds is for the current owners to raise a share issue,have E4C brought that up with them ?,even the dispicable Johnson done that.

The share issue is something we have discussed yes mate, both with Trust Everton and the club.  Trust Everton are in talks with the club about it but they don't see it as a feasible option from what I can gather although it hasn't been totally ruled out.

Regarding the owners putting their own money forward?  I am not sure many owners would for one player unless their Manager gave them an ultimatum.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on June 23, 2011, 04:18:55 PM
this is the thing our elusive 3 board members...... do fuck all do they not? im may aswell be on the board. for all there worth (if they are) or what they have got or what they do.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on June 23, 2011, 04:20:29 PM
wut
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on June 23, 2011, 04:35:40 PM
The share issue is something we have discussed yes mate, both with Trust Everton and the club.  Trust Everton are in talks with the club about it but they don't see it as a feasible option from what I can gather although it hasn't been totally ruled out.

Regarding the owners putting their own money forward?  I am not sure many owners would for one player unless their Manager gave them an ultimatum.

Thanks for the answer mate,apart from selling for a reasonable price,any idea of the price we are asking Silas?,I am at a loss to think were we could generate funds,anyway the eternal question who will buy us when were in such a mess.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: ForzaItalia on June 23, 2011, 04:47:33 PM
N'zogbia for 4.5 million? I'll believe it when I see it. Latest price Whelan is coming out with is 15mil, but believe what you will if it helps cement your opinions. Moyes is a very very good manager but you have to give credit to Kenwright for hiring him and sticking with him when he was reaching the great heights of 17th if you are going to give him stick for all the other things he's done. I have to admit Bellefield was a good player and I was gutted to see him go but it was a necessary evil to pay debt interest.

Poor. Kenwright only appointed Moyes on a recommendation from Walter Smith. I doubt very much if he would have approached him otherwise. Moyes has shown himself to be a very good manager despite Kenwright and the board. Lets be honest, Kenwright got lucky when he appointed Moyes, it wasn't down to his footballing nouse. Let's not forget, he was the man that appointed Smith in the first place and sanctioned moves for Gazza, Ginola and a few other world beaters.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Krissy on June 23, 2011, 05:31:22 PM
To be fair, Gazza was good for one season.
Title: OWNED
Post by: Bily No Pace on June 23, 2011, 05:38:36 PM
No as I thought no answers just sarcasm,btw Billy I never said Nzogbia for £4.5 million I said that was a downpayment,and I also never said Bellfield was a player,some belter on here just sarcastically said so.But alas dont let the truth get in the way of a good story Bill,and I am still waiting for those answers,any time today mate nod

So you want the club to go further into debt? Pay the 4.5 million then what? We are indebted further? Great, well thought out plan! What answers are you looking for? I already said he (Bellefield) was sold to repay debts (if we go by your plan we'd need to sell a bit more!) and have gone on to the point of nausea about the fact Moyes having the Pienaar and Vaughan money, there's still plenty of transfer window to go you know, not many clubs have been active yet.
Title: Credit where credit's due
Post by: Bily No Pace on June 23, 2011, 05:43:51 PM
Poor. Kenwright only appointed Moyes on a recommendation from Walter Smith. I doubt very much if he would have approached him otherwise. Moyes has shown himself to be a very good manager despite Kenwright and the board. Lets be honest, Kenwright got lucky when he appointed Moyes, it wasn't down to his footballing nouse. Let's not forget, he was the man that appointed Smith in the first place and sanctioned moves for Gazza, Ginola and a few other world beaters.

I always thought Johnson had majority share when Smith was appointed? Granted Bill stuck by him for a frustratingly longer period than he should have but he was a decent manager all the same. Sure it's a poor point, but you have to give Bill some credit for not rocking the boat like many other Chairmen do at the first sign of trouble.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on June 23, 2011, 05:49:33 PM
Thanks for the answer mate,apart from selling for a reasonable price,any idea of the price we are asking Silas?,I am at a loss to think were we could generate funds,anyway the eternal question who will buy us when were in such a mess.

No idea, one of the questions we are noi close to the club answering.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on June 23, 2011, 06:25:30 PM
So you want the club to go further into debt? Pay the 4.5 million then what? We are indebted further? Great, well thought out plan! What answers are you looking for? I already said he (Bellefield) was sold to repay debts (if we go by your plan we'd need to sell a bit more!) and have gone on to the point of nausea about the fact Moyes having the Pienaar and Vaughan money, there's still plenty of transfer window to go you know, not many clubs have been active yet.

Oh well if u cant beat them join them I thought bellefield sounds more like a she than a he Billy.You are as slippery as an eel billy,you still have not answered my questions a).Do you think Nzogbia would make a good signing ?a more than adequate replacement for Pienaar ? b) Do you think your hero Bill and his board should find the rest of the money for the downpayment for Nzogbia,not by going into further debt ( I dont actually want that)maybe by giving their club an interest free loan until we sell Yak/Yobo and then pay them back ?I dont want the club in further debt Billy, the board have done a fantastic job of that themselves,now again,no sarcasm answer questions a + b,oh and dont forget im an old guy ;D answer before I pass on!
Title: I didn't marry him
Post by: Bily No Pace on June 23, 2011, 06:37:15 PM
Oh well if u cant beat them join them I thought bellefield sounds more like a she than a he Billy.You are as slippery as an eel billy,you still have not answered my questions a).Do you think Nzogbia would make a good signing ?a more than adequate replacement for Pienaar ? b) Do you think your hero Bill and his board should find the rest of the money for the downpayment for Nzogbia,not by going into further debt ( I dont actually want that)maybe by giving their club an interest free loan until we sell Yak/Yobo and then pay them back ?I dont want the club in further debt Billy, the board have done a fantastic job of that themselves,now again,no sarcasm answer questions a + b,oh and dont forget im an old guy ;D answer before I pass on!


a) yes
b) I think they could find the money (£4.5mil) knowing that Yakubu, Yobo and possibly a few more will be going. You don't see the point that I am making. If you put a down payment on a car you are then bound to pay the rest. If N'zogbia is worth say 15 million we are liable for the rest putting us 10 million further debt. Regardless of whether this is a loan from one of the members of the board or from a bank, it is still debt. 

bonus) yes I would love one of the board to lend us money. Bill can't. He's worth very little, I've seen people talk about £15 million, who knows how much of that is actually in the bank? As for Earl (and possibly Green) I think that was covered here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jan/20/david-conn-everton-robert-earl (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jan/20/david-conn-everton-robert-earl)


hey I'm sure you're not that old, my uncle's (through marriage) grandmother is 102 this week. still going strong.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gray90 on June 23, 2011, 06:44:29 PM
N'zogbia will not go for 15 million, he has a year left on his contract.
Title: DESTROYED
Post by: Bily No Pace on June 23, 2011, 06:48:49 PM
N'zogbia will not go for 15 million, he has a year left on his contract.


http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/867233-charles-n-zogbia-will-cost-liverpool-15million-says-wigan-chief (http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/867233-charles-n-zogbia-will-cost-liverpool-15million-says-wigan-chief)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13882802.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13882802.stm)

Key points from the article above.

"BBC Sport understands the 25-year-old England international is close to a £17m switch to Old Trafford."

and

"He has been at Villa for more than four years after joining from Watford but has only one year left on his contract."

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blue slug on June 23, 2011, 06:53:43 PM
To be fair Young is english which normally adds 30% to a players value at least. Nzogbia will go for £10m or there abouts
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on June 23, 2011, 06:54:03 PM
a) yes
b) I think they could find the money (£4.5mil) knowing that Yakubu, Yobo and possibly a few more will be going. You don't see the point that I am making. If you put a down payment on a car you are then bound to pay the rest. If N'zogbia is worth say 15 million we are liable for the rest putting us 10 million further debt. Regardless of whether this is a loan from one of the members of the board or from a bank, it is still debt.  

bonus) yes I would love one of the board to lend us money. Bill can't. He's worth very little, I've seen people talk about £15 million, who knows how much of that is actually in the bank? As for Earl (and possibly Green) I think that was covered here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jan/20/david-conn-everton-robert-earl (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jan/20/david-conn-everton-robert-earl)


hey I'm sure you're not that old, my uncle's (through marriage) grandmother is 102 this week. still going strong.

Ha,ha, wish her happy birthday for me will ya,she even doubles my age!
Thanks for the answers,imo good honest answers,could be right about going further into debt,but could we not sell that car (Nzogbia)at a profit a few years later,ha,ha.I dont know maybe he could help win us a trophy,get us back into Europe,he seems to have that "X" factor for me who knows.BTW Iheard the full price was £9 mill,I think he's in the last year of his contract ?Where did £15 mill come from if he's in his last year anyone would be a mug to pay that. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: GLewis on June 23, 2011, 06:56:53 PM
If he's going to cost £15m then we won't buy him.

The issues is that if he was going to cost the same fee as the fees we received/will receie for Pienaar, Vaughan, Yak, Yobo that we can't even get a loan from one of our directors to be paid back as soon as we receive fees for Yak and Yobo.

The fact that we have to wait for money to actually hit the bank before we can spend it is the real issue. We're in such a bad state that banks won't take the chance that the Yak/Yobo fees don't materialise and our directors either can't or don't want to provide the equivalent facility.
Title: Re: DESTROYED
Post by: Gray90 on June 23, 2011, 07:04:14 PM

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/867233-charles-n-zogbia-will-cost-liverpool-15million-says-wigan-chief (http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/867233-charles-n-zogbia-will-cost-liverpool-15million-says-wigan-chief)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13882802.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13882802.stm)

Key points from the article above.

"BBC Sport understands the 25-year-old England international is close to a £17m switch to Old Trafford."

and

"He has been at Villa for more than four years after joining from Watford but has only one year left on his contract."



On 20 June 2004, Everton chairman Bill Kenwright says: "David Moyes and I agreed Wayne has to be a £50million player now. "I would turn down any bid for him and say: 'Thank you very much. What else do you want to talk about?'"

 

On 31 August 2004, Man United sign Wayne Rooney for £27m.
Title: RETARDED
Post by: Bily No Pace on June 23, 2011, 07:06:05 PM
On 20 June 2004, Everton chairman Bill Kenwright says: "David Moyes and I agreed Wayne has to be a £50million player now. "I would turn down any bid for him and say: 'Thank you very much. What else do you want to talk about?'"

 

On 31 August 2004, Man United sign Wayne Rooney for £27m.


o...k...?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gray90 on June 23, 2011, 07:08:22 PM

o...k...?

Just making the point that chairman often state a large price on players then do business at a significantly lower price  :thumbsup:
Title: because you're wrong and you know you are.
Post by: Bily No Pace on June 23, 2011, 07:09:31 PM
Just making the point that chairman often state a large price on players then do business at a significantly lower price  :thumbsup:


and ignore the Ashley Young point because...?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gray90 on June 23, 2011, 07:12:24 PM

and ignore the Ashley Young point because...?

As it was explained adequately by Blue Slug. Premium on British players.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: .Rimbo. on June 23, 2011, 07:26:04 PM
Can't see him costing £15 million unless a bidding war breaks out.

What we need is pace, trickery, someone with ability to beat his man and hurt the opposition from wide areas. I suppose Coleman could have those attributes but to have two would give us a whole new dimension.

IMO we should sell one of the more redundant players of the squad to provide most of the funding. Someone without those attributes e.g. Bilyaletdinov.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Kesser08 on June 23, 2011, 07:35:38 PM
 Totally agree Rimbo
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on June 23, 2011, 07:55:42 PM
There is clearly interest in him so even on the last year of this contract (thanks in part to the inflated prices Liverpool have caused) I could see him going for up to 12 mil, probably not less than 10 though I'd imagine.

I think at this point it is looking pretty unlikely. But if we can raise money in that ballpark even if we don't get N'Zogbia there should be other continental wingers with hopefully the same sort of ability that we could get at that price. I think we are looking in the wrong shop window at the moment, buying established Premier League players is always a tough ask for us.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 23, 2011, 08:33:05 PM

  If you put a down payment on a car you are then bound to pay the rest. If N'zogbia is worth say 15 million we are liable for the rest putting us 10 million further debt. Regardless of whether this is a loan from one of the members of the board or from a bank, it is still debt.  


 Bily, you are dead-right regarding that no-one (in their right mind) wants to increase a debt that they sadly may already have, but - -

 Using your acceptable analogy, is this particular model of sports car worth the incurrence of debt if :

 a) It/he has the style that is worth it.
 b) It/he has very good mileage, with no damage and the look of longevity.
 c) It/he can handle the test-drive of the circuit/premier league - not an untried South American Hector Riva who play for Los Muchas.
 d) If/he performs as you hope it/he will (it/he has already completed past circuits - the sell-on price (if it's greatly admired) will be more than you paid for it/him.
 
 If the answers are 4 yes's - I personally think, the supporters/chairman/manager/bank, can only think - it is/would be a pretty sound investment.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on June 23, 2011, 08:36:10 PM
  If you put a down payment on a car you are then bound to pay the rest. If N'zogbia is worth say 15 million we are liable for the rest putting us 10 million further debt. Regardless of whether this is a loan from one of the members of the board or from a bank, it is still debt.  


 Bily, you are dead-right regarding that no-one (in their right mind) wants to increase a debt that they sadly may already have, but - -

 Using your acceptable analogy, is this particular model of sports car worth the incurrence of debt if :

 a) It/he has the style that is worth it.
 b) It/he has very good mileage, with no damage and the look of longevity.
 c) It/he can handle the test-drive of the circuit/premier league - not an untried South American Hector Riva who play for Los Muchas.
 d) If/he performs as you hope it/he will (it/he has already completed past circuits - the sell-on price (if it's greatly admired) will be more than you paid for it/him.
 
 If the answers are 4 yes's - I personally think, the supporters/chairman/manager/bank, can only think - it is/would be a pretty sound investment.



Totally agree mate but it comes down to one thing.  Raising the investment.  I know that I could buy property and sell it on for profit but not having the money stops me doing that.  If I can't raise it, it doesn't matter how good a proposition it is.  Same goes here.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 23, 2011, 08:43:09 PM
I think what you've said there is very reasonable ... Moyes has his critics and I think in some circumstances the criticism is totally unfair , It seems now that he's in the situation of when he takes one step forward he's forced to take two steps back through no fault of his own .. be it lack of investment , unforseen injuries , loss of form of key players ... Yet he still remains loyal .. If everyone at Everton from the Chairman down to the players applied themselves with the dedication that Moyes shows to his job then we would be in a much better position

 100% correct, Changie' - David Moyes' loyalty is to be admired, and no mistake.

 Just 2 minor points :

 His loyalty has never been tested - ie, since at Everton, no other club has tempted him away (like Villa wanting Martinez, but the Spaniard chose to stay loyal with Wigan).

 Bill Kenwright (as far as I know) has never pulled a 'stroke' on David Moyes, the way Johnson did with Walter Smith, ie, Johnson wanted to sell everyone's favourite Duncan Ferguson, to line his own pockets, when he (Johnson) knew his game was up - the tw*t (Agent Johnson).

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Krissy on June 23, 2011, 08:43:47 PM
We don't even have the down payment so how are we going to finance it.
Even if we sell how much of that money will be used to pay the debt or will all of it ?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 23, 2011, 08:45:26 PM
 
 Totally agree mate but it comes down to one thing.  Raising the investment.  I know that I could buy property and sell it on for profit but not having the money stops me doing that.  If I can't raise it, it doesn't matter how good a proposition it is.  Same goes here.

 But Sile', what about the monies for the current players we don't want -- ie, Yakubu & Yobo etc.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on June 23, 2011, 08:46:55 PM

 Totally agree mate but it comes down to one thing.  Raising the investment.  I know that I could buy property and sell it on for profit but not having the money stops me doing that.  If I can't raise it, it doesn't matter how good a proposition it is.  Same goes here.

 But Sile', what about the monies for the current players we don't want -- ie, Yakubu & Yobo etc.


That money isn't actually there yet though mate.  If it was maybe talk of downpayments would be fair enough but say Yak doesn't go?  Where would that leave us?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 23, 2011, 08:59:24 PM
 
 That money isn't actually there yet though mate. 

 Fair point.

 If I had to discuss this project with my Bank Manager, I would say (to him) -- you know I will eventually get monies for 'said' players, you (to the BM) must realise there is a large modicum of sense in my proposal.


 If it was maybe talk of downpayments would be fair enough but say Yak doesn't go?  Where would that leave us?

 Yakubu is a journeyman, and always will be until he retires. I will be absolutely astonished if he comes back to Everton. Will he move-on at a loss -- more than likely definately.

 If that does become 'the case' - it shows you that the man (Yakubu) was never worth entertaining in the first place. For me, he (Yakubu) has never been the 'Yak' - I will always remember him as the 'Yuck'.



Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on June 23, 2011, 09:00:31 PM
Sadly I think all this talk of Nzogbia is irrelevant now with Ashley Young signing for ( that terribly debt ridden club) man u for £17 mill,that leaves Mcleish with money to sign Nzogbia for villa as a replacement.Ater all did'nt Mcleish try to sign him while at birmingham.Oh well ...next.Might as well close this thread.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on June 23, 2011, 09:01:55 PM

 That money isn't actually there yet though mate. 

 Fair point.

 If I had to discuss this project with my Bank Manager, I would say (to him) -- you know I will eventually get monies for 'said' players, you (to the BM) must realise there is a large modicum of sense in my proposal.


 If it was maybe talk of downpayments would be fair enough but say Yak doesn't go?  Where would that leave us?

 Yakubu is a journeyman, and always will be until he retires. I will be absolutely astonished if he comes back to Everton. Will he move-on at a loss -- more than likely definately.

 If that does become 'the case' - it shows you that the man (Yakubu) was never worth entertaining in the first place. For me, he (Yakubu) has never been the 'Yak' - I will always remember him as the 'Yuck'.





So would I but then if I had been to my Bank Manager cap in hand as much as Everton, I would doubt he would believe me.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 23, 2011, 09:13:18 PM
 
 So would I but then if I had been to my Bank Manager cap in hand as much as Everton, I would doubt he would believe me.

 Without appearing facetious, Sile' -- when Bill Kenwright talks about the bank/monies etc - - I personally don't believe a single word he has to say.

 I really don't know what the truth is (regarding our owner talking on, or about this subject) anymore
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 23, 2011, 09:17:00 PM
 

 Sadly I think all this talk of Nzogbia is irrelevant now with Ashley Young signing for ( that terribly debt ridden club) man u for £17 mill,that leaves Mcleish with money to sign Nzogbia for villa as a replacement

 Sheer speculation, good-buddy - now where have I heard that before.

                                                                  ;)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on June 23, 2011, 09:18:16 PM
Fucking hell we best sign him after this thread.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 23, 2011, 09:20:16 PM
Fucking hell we best sign him after this thread.

 Ramster', I am properly laughin', over here.


                                   lolol

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 27, 2011, 10:23:42 PM
 
 Si, if you think this new addition to this thread is not warranted - please feel free to delete it immediately.

 Forgive me for rekindling this thread, but I didn't/don't think a fresh post was/is warranted.

 The Liverpool Echo are reporting this news sports story (today - page 1);

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2011/06/27/everton-fc-rumour-mill-spanish-midfielder-bid-rejected-n-zogbia-favours-merseyside-cisse-return-deal-100252-28949569/ (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2011/06/27/everton-fc-rumour-mill-spanish-midfielder-bid-rejected-n-zogbia-favours-merseyside-cisse-return-deal-100252-28949569/)

 With their source from (from yesterday) here:

  http://bleacherreport.com/articles/748962-everton-transfer-rumours-are-nzogbia-and-brown-on-the-horizon (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/748962-everton-transfer-rumours-are-nzogbia-and-brown-on-the-horizon)

 The bleacher report says (with something I didn't know) - As of yet, Newcastle, Sunderland, Aston Villa and Everton are the admirers attributed to the Frenchman. Out of this quartet, it is believed N'Zogbia favours Everton, a good start for Evertonians.

 I wonder how they know that. Is that false?

 Plus,

 Sunderland and Newcastle have both secured the services of wide midfielders this week, is this a sign that they are out of the N’Zogbia race?

 For me, that's a very plausible question to ask.

 The Bleacher Report;

 This link was prevalent at the start of last week, with rumors of a move perhaps imminent. Many Everton supporters may feel the sudden silence now means an end to the matter, however this one might not be dead yet.

It seems Wigan have a number between £9-11 million in their heads for their mercurial playmaker. As of yet, Newcastle, Sunderland, Aston Villa and Everton are the admirers attributed to the Frenchman. Out of this quartet, it is believed N'Zogbia favours Everton, a good start for Evertonians. Furthermore, it was rumored that because of N'Zogbia’s current preferences, Wigan were willing to accept a down payment straight away, and collect the remaining sum in a year.

However, raising just half the fee is something David Moyes is finding more than a little cumbersome. It was hoped Joseph Yobo and Yakubu could have been offloaded by now, freeing up valuable wage space and giving David Moyes much needed spending power.

Yobo has agreed terms with Fenerbahce, but no fee has been agreed on. On the other hand, a fee has been approved for Yakubu by various clubs, but the Nigerian has been unwilling to take a cut in wages. Before everyone jumps on Yakubu’s back, he has grossly underperformed since his injury, often appearing lazy and uninterested on the pitch, if you were making close to £50,000 a week and were being offered barely 33 percent of that, would you not want to see out the final year of your contract?

 The best-case scenario is that Everton offload their Nigerian duo, collect sufficient funds and secure the down payment on N’Zogbia, a player whose creativity and width would be hugely valuable to Everton next season. Sunderland and Newcastle have both secured the services of wide midfielders this week, is this a sign that they are out of the N’Zogbia race? Despite this, if perhaps Liverpool, a team very short of options on the flank, or even Tottenham, or a side with more immediate Champions League credentials to come in for N'Zogbia, the plot would thicken once again.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: cantoffee on June 27, 2011, 10:32:00 PM
I can understand him preferring to come to us, especially out of the teams that have been mentioned. Although Villa will have shedloads of cash if Downing is offloaded as well and they much simply out-bid us in order to have Wigan only accept their offer.

I think once Yobo is gone we'll probably put in a formal bid as we should have enough cash for an initial outlay and then hope to move Yakubu before the season to cover the rest of it. Well, at least that's what I'm hoping for.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 27, 2011, 10:39:34 PM
 Great constructive post, Can'.

 Although Villa will have shedloads of cash if Downing is offloaded as well and they much simply out-bid us in order to have Wigan only accept their offer.

  Damn - you're right.

 If Villa (Learner) & MCLeish really want him - we just can't compete.

 I'm now facing logic here - we've no chance of getting him, except for one thing - might N'Zogbia, because of his 'liking', supposedly, for Everton, refuse every other admirer, except Everton.

 That is some big ask.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Running Blue on June 27, 2011, 10:47:15 PM
Great constructive post, Can'.

 Although Villa will have shedloads of cash if Downing is offloaded as well and they much simply out-bid us in order to have Wigan only accept their offer.

 Damn - you're right.

 I'm now facing logic here - we've no chance of getting him.

 If Villa (Learner) & MCLeish really want him - we just can't compete.

I'm not up-to-date on my Aston Villa finances so I am just thinking out loud here.  However, isn't it possible that Villa had to sell Young because they needed the cash for something else?  i.e. debt.

Also, a silly hypothetical, but I have enough money to buy virtually any pencil in the world. 

However, that doesn't mean I am willing to throw down 20 quid for one. 

Villa may want Nzogbia, but if (and that is a massive if) he wants to come to us, and makes it difficult for them - then they are not going to want to pay over the odds for a player who would rather go elsewhere.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 27, 2011, 10:52:26 PM
 I'm not up-to-date on my Aston Villa finances so I am just thinking out loud here.  However, isn't it possible that Villa had to sell Young because they needed the cash for something else?  i.e. debt.

Also, a silly hypothetical, but I have enough money to buy virtually any pencil in the world.  

However, that doesn't mean I am willing to throw down 20 quid for one.  

Villa may want Nzogbia, but if (and that is a massive if) he wants to come to us, and makes it difficult for them - then they are not going to want to pay over the odds for a player who would rather go elsewhere.


  I have actually re-doctered my post, RB.

 Your post?

 Superb - and this bit:

 Also, a silly hypothetical, but I have enough money to buy virtually any pencil in the world.  

However, that doesn't mean I am willing to throw down 20 quid for one.


                                                                 :clap:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: cantoffee on June 27, 2011, 10:53:57 PM
I'm not up-to-date on my Aston Villa finances so I am just thinking out loud here.  However, isn't it possible that Villa had to sell Young because they needed the cash for something else?  i.e. debt.

Also, a silly hypothetical, but I have enough money to buy virtually any pencil in the world. 

However, that doesn't mean I am willing to throw down 20 quid for one. 

Villa may want Nzogbia, but if (and that is a massive if) he wants to come to us, and makes it difficult for them - then they are not going to want to pay over the odds for a player who would rather go elsewhere.



That's true, but that depends on how much N'Zogbia would try to force a move to us other Villa, I'm not so sure he's absolutely desperate to sign for us, just that we're his preferred choice. A similar thing happened with Kyle Naughton, not exactly the same, but similar in some regards.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on June 27, 2011, 10:54:30 PM
I wonder what will be the longest running thread this summer? I think this one has potential but I'm not sure we're talking Kyle Naughton territory yet.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on June 27, 2011, 10:57:39 PM
That Kyle Naughton thread was embarassing really. How many pages over a very young right back from a lower division, and he ended up somewhere else and hardly played in their first team anyway.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blue slug on June 27, 2011, 11:20:00 PM
That Kyle Naughton thread was embarassing really. How many pages over a very young right back from a lower division, and he ended up somewhere else and hardly played in their first team anyway.

Totally agree with you but i can see why everyone is getting excited about nzogbia, he is exactly what we need to move forward
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Confucius on June 28, 2011, 12:11:40 AM
I reckon that most football rumour sites troll forums looking for their next article. 17 pages on N'zogbia has probably alerted most news sources people are using as a reference. It is a vicious circle of retards.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: .Rimbo. on June 28, 2011, 01:11:13 AM
To be honest, the Yak and Yobo situations are dragging on and starting to take the piss now a bit. We need to get them sorted as soon as possible. As for raising the downpayment though, I know this may be controversial, but why don't we just sell Bilyaletdinov? We'd probably get £5-6 million for him, I don't think he's ever going to make it properly in this league (despite pretty much every Evertonian under the sun wanting him to succeed) and if we were to get N'Zogbia in, I can't see him getting a game. I'm sure someone on the continent would pay decent money for him because I'm sure he'd do well in a slightly slower, less physical league.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on June 28, 2011, 01:17:43 AM
Quote from: .Rimbo. link=topi    2535.msg261774#msg261774 date=1309198273
To be honest, the Yak and Yobo situations are dragging on and starting to take the piss now a bit. We need to get them sorted as soon as possible. As for raising the downpayment though, I know this may be controversial, but why don't we just sell Bilyaletdinov? We'd probably get £5-6 million for him, I don't think he's ever going to make it properly in this league (despite pretty much every Evertonian under the sun wanting him to succeed) and if we were to get N'Zogbia in, I can't see him getting a game. I'm sure someone on the continent would pay decent money for him because I'm sure he'd do well in a slightly slower, less physical league.

This,think Nzogbia would be an excellent swap for Billy,but whatever we do I feel it will have to be done fast and decisively,too many other clubs may take notice,and we just cant compete.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on June 28, 2011, 01:20:43 AM
Shame we we didn't go for Nzogbia instead of Bily two years ago.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on June 28, 2011, 01:26:56 AM
Shame we we didn't go for Nzogbia instead of Bily two years ago.

Wait a minute, Doc. Ah... Are you telling me that you built a time machine... out of a DeLorean?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 28, 2011, 01:35:48 AM
 Like Sile' - a movie connection :

 Sliding Doors is a 1998 film written and directed by Peter Howitt. The film has elements of alternate history, though on a minor level, affecting only the personal lives of the (fictional) characters and not the world at large.

 So, for me, Blargz', your;

Shame we we didn't go for Nzogbia instead of Bily two years ago.

 Is a variant of Sliding Doors - but in reality.

 A real thinker of 'what if' - on your part.

                                         :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on June 28, 2011, 01:44:56 AM
Not really. We needed a pacey winger two years ago. Two years ago Wigan bought Nzogbia and we bought Bily who is anything but pacy.

Title: Someone got it!
Post by: Bily No Pace on June 28, 2011, 01:52:19 AM
Not really. We needed a pacey winger two years ago. Two years ago Wigan bought Nzogbia and we bought Bily who is anything but pacy.



hey that's like my name!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on June 28, 2011, 01:53:10 AM
:)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 28, 2011, 02:00:44 AM
Not really. We needed a pacey winger two years ago. Two years ago Wigan bought Nzogbia and we bought Bily who is anything but pacy.



 Ah. Tell me then, fella' - what is any Evertonian to deduce  :

a) two years ago, Bily was acquired because (on mainland Europe) Moyes could get Bily for x amount (a fraction) of the full Bily fee (am I wrong with that assumption?), to be paid in instalments. And obviously, N'Zogbia would have needed a much bigger wedge (immediately, or up-front) to get him.

 b) Dave Moyes did really think Bily was a player in the making.

 c) Dave Moyes simply made a catastrophe (up to this juncture) of a buy with his judgement of Bily.

 Personally, my answer would be; c)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on June 28, 2011, 02:06:13 AM
I think b originally, but he is certainly turning into c.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 28, 2011, 02:09:01 AM
 
 I think b originally, but he is certainly turning into c.

 A very astute answer, fella'.
                   ;)


 Addition.

 I have since (Blargins' answer) re-worded b) & c).
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on June 28, 2011, 02:09:12 AM
In fairness, N'Zogbia 2 years ago was not the player he is today. Whether Martinez helped him develop or he has just matured he is looking a lot better than his Newcastle days.

I don't think there were many clamouring for his signature at the time. But yes we did need a winger and Moyes went for a different type of player.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on June 28, 2011, 02:16:14 AM
N'zogbia was signed in a January transfer window after a falling out with Newcastle. To suggest Everton made a mistake in going for Bily over him is, quite frankly, a stupid point to try and make.

There are far too many variables to even start analyzing our transfer business (or lack thereof) regarding the two players.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 28, 2011, 02:23:03 AM
N'zogbia was signed in a January transfer window after a falling out with Newcastle. To suggest Everton made a mistake in going for Bily over him is, quite frankly, a stupid point to try and make.

 I think that's a very fair comment, Jamo' - regarding the timing - you possess a grand memory, fella'.

 I've just nearly baulked reading this :

 Bilyaletdinov signed a four-year contract with English club Everton in August 2009 for an undisclosed fee – believed to be £8.9 million – upon recommendation from national team manager Guus Hiddink, who was at Chelsea at that time.

 Hey Guus, was you smoking green stuff at the time.
                                             :snigger:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on June 28, 2011, 02:31:01 AM
N'zogbia was signed in a January transfer window after a falling out with Newcastle. To suggest Everton made a mistake in going for Bily over him is, quite frankly, a stupid point to try and make.

 I think that's a very fair comment, Jamo' - regarding the timing - you possess a grand memory, fella'.

 I've just nearly baulked reading this :

 Bilyaletdinov signed a four-year contract with English club Everton in August 2009 for an undisclosed fee – believed to be £8.9 million – upon recommendation from national team manager Guus Hiddink, who was at Chelsea at that time.

 Hey Guus, was you smoking green stuff at the time.
                                             :snigger:

N'zogbia was signed in a January transfer window after a falling out with Newcastle. To suggest Everton made a mistake in going for Bily over him is, quite frankly, a stupid point to try and make.

 I think that's a very fair comment, Jamo' - regarding the timing - you possess a grand memory, fella'.

 I've just nearly baulked reading this :

 Bilyaletdinov signed a four-year contract with English club Everton in August 2009 for an undisclosed fee – believed to be £8.9 million – upon recommendation from national team manager Guus Hiddink, who was at Chelsea at that time.

 Hey Guus, was you smoking green stuff at the time.
                                             :snigger:


To be fair he was a highly rated player in Russia, very highly rated in fact.  In a league winning team and young player of the year.  Everything pointed towards a good signing.  Sometimes stuff just doesn't work out.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on June 28, 2011, 02:32:20 AM
Fair enough Jamo, I thought it was around the same time they moved.

But I do remember us signing Bily and the main question being asked were "has he got pace?"
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 28, 2011, 02:37:56 AM
 To be fair he was a highly rated player in Russia, very highly rated in fact.  In a league winning team and young player of the year.  Everything pointed towards a good signing.  Sometimes stuff just doesn't work out.

 Fair point, Sile' - but what I can't fathom out is, how can a player, with what you've said, now look, not even close (except for that tremendous 'slap' of a goal he scored toward the end of last season) to the shadow of the player that was highly rated.

                                                                                           ???
 
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on June 28, 2011, 02:42:35 AM
Lack of confidence, league doesn't suit his style, not getting a run in the team, being the first player to be dropped or subbed no matter who else plays shit or even how he plays.  These are a few reasons I can think of. Any if not all could apply if not more.
Title: Bilarious
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 28, 2011, 02:43:52 AM
hey that's like my name!

Haha you are too funny Bily
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 28, 2011, 02:46:28 AM
To be fair he was a highly rated player in Russia, very highly rated in fact.  In a league winning team and young player of the year.  Everything pointed towards a good signing.  Sometimes stuff just doesn't work out.

 Fair point, Sile' - but what I can't fathom out is, how can a player, with what you've said, now look, not even close (except for that tremendous 'slap' of a goal he scored toward the end of last season) to the shadow of the player that was highly rated.

                                                                                           ???
 


You make it sound like its only ever happened to Bily... see robinho, hugo vianna etc
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 28, 2011, 03:16:13 AM
 Lack of confidence, league doesn't suit his style, not getting a run in the team, being the first player to be dropped or subbed no matter who else plays shit or even how he plays.  These are a few reasons I can think of. Any if not all could apply if not more.

 Good answers, Sile'.


  You make it sound like its only ever happened to Bily... see robinho, hugo vianna etc 

  I didn't mean to, Jim. Off the top of my head -

 Do you mean robinho for Man City, and vianna for Newcastle - if so, would I be right in thinking: Because we're even poorer than a 'church mouse', an expensive Everton signing deemed a failure, magnifies that failure. Whereas at more affluent clubs, a buying failure isn't (or doesn't seem to be) as severe.


 
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on June 28, 2011, 03:20:14 AM
To be fair he was a highly rated player in Russia, very highly rated in fact.  In a league winning team and young player of the year.  Everything pointed towards a good signing.  Sometimes stuff just doesn't work out.

 Fair point, Sile' - but what I can't fathom out is, how can a player, with what you've said, now look, not even close (except for that tremendous 'slap' of a goal he scored toward the end of last season) to the shadow of the player that was highly rated.

                                                                                           ???
 


My guess is the pace of the game.

If you have just a little less time on the ball than you'd need to think about your next move, you'll look completely clueless. While in a fractionally slower league you may have looked ace.

Of course it could be anything, but I've definitely seen this happen to many players.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 28, 2011, 03:24:51 AM
 If you have just a little less time on the ball than you'd need to think about your next move, you'll look completely clueless. While in a fractionally slower league you may have looked ace.

 That could well be the answer I've been searching for, Mage' - I'm having it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 28, 2011, 03:27:23 AM
Lack of confidence, league doesn't suit his style, not getting a run in the team, being the first player to be dropped or subbed no matter who else plays shit or even how he plays.  These are a few reasons I can think of. Any if not all could apply if not more.

 Good answers, Sile'.


  You make it sound like its only ever happened to Bily... see robinho, hugo vianna etc 

  I didn't mean to, Jim. Off the top of my head -

 Do you mean robinho for Man City, and vianna for Newcastle - if so, would I be right in thinking: Because we're even poorer than a 'church mouse', an expensive Everton signing deemed a failure, magnifies that failure. Whereas at more affluent clubs, a buying failure isn't (or doesn't seem to be) as severe.


 

The city one is fair enough but any team buying a player for large sums and that player doesnt work is a fuck up. Bily gets bad press, he is more suited to a slow paced game. I can see why Moyes went for him even tho Pienaar was here and its a shame it aint worked out.
He doesnt seem to get a fair crack tho either..... Anichebe gets game time whenever fit and plays wank but is in next week. Bily has a bad 10 mins and is off and thats it for weeks
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 28, 2011, 03:36:24 AM
 The city one is fair enough but any team buying a player for large sums and that player doesnt work is a fuck up.

 Fair do's, Jim

 Bily gets bad press, he is more suited to a slow paced game. I can see why Moyes went for him even tho Pienaar was here and its a shame it aint worked out. He doesnt seem to get a fair crack tho either..... Anichebe gets game time whenever fit and plays wank but is in next week. Bily has a bad 10 mins and is off and thats it for weeks

 I totally see your observation(s). Does that (your reasonable points) suggest Dave Moyes might be culpable of/in not giving Bily similair treatment, opportunities, as a fellow under-achiever (Anichebe).

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 28, 2011, 03:43:24 AM
The city one is fair enough but any team buying a player for large sums and that player doesnt work is a fuck up.

 Fair do's, Jim

 Bily gets bad press, he is more suited to a slow paced game. I can see why Moyes went for him even tho Pienaar was here and its a shame it aint worked out. He doesnt seem to get a fair crack tho either..... Anichebe gets game time whenever fit and plays wank but is in next week. Bily has a bad 10 mins and is off and thats it for weeks

 I totally see your observation(s). Does that (your reasonable points) suggest Dave Moyes might be culpable in not giving Bily similair treatment, opportunities, as a fellow under-achiever (Anichebe).



It would appear to yeah. I dont get the Anichebe factor at all

Back to topic, would love N'zogbia here but I cant see it
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 28, 2011, 03:47:06 AM
 Back to topic, would love N'zogbia here but I cant see it


 Sadly, other contributors in this thread, are convincing me to come to the same conclusion.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: charlatan on June 28, 2011, 03:47:57 AM
My guess is the pace of the game.

If you have just a little less time on the ball than you'd need to think about your next move, you'll look completely clueless. While in a fractionally slower league you may have looked ace.

Of course it could be anything, but I've definitely seen this happen to many players.

Think you've got it blob on there chief, it would explain why Bily often looks like a startled rabbit caught in headlights during the game.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 28, 2011, 03:48:52 AM
Back to topic, would love N'zogbia here but I cant see it


 Sadly, other contributors in this thread, are convincing me to come to the same conclusion.

Transfer fee and wages
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 28, 2011, 04:00:45 AM
 Transfer fee and wages

 Strangely enough, because of the immense forensic-style study this thread has generated, it might depend on what lifestyle N'Zogbia is used to. As an example, whatever the salary of our top earner is, and Charlie is current earning more than that now & the club (us) are reluctant to 'up' the ceiling, then could you really blame him to want to improve his bank-balance even further and cement the lifestyle he currently possesses playing for another team for even more of a weekly wage/salary.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 28, 2011, 04:07:55 AM
If the rumours about Ba are to be believed then Charl wont end up here will he
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 28, 2011, 04:16:55 AM
If the rumours about Ba are to be believed then Charl wont end up here will he

 Without appearing ignorant, Jim - I really know nothing of Ba, other than he plays for West Ham. So I'm guessing -- Ba might leave the hammers but he's on a wedge that would choke a donkey. Therefore, we can never be in the race for this particular ass.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 28, 2011, 04:26:26 AM
Without appearing ignorant, Jim - I really know nothing of Ba, other than he plays for West Ham. So I'm guessing -- Ba might leave the hammers but he's on a wedge that would choke a donkey. Therefore, we can never be in the race for this particular ass.


We offered him 40k a week, Newcastle went 52k so off he popped to Newcastle
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ash88 on June 28, 2011, 04:27:52 AM
We offered him 40k a week, Newcastle went 52k so off he popped to Newcastle

and Newcastle gave his agent 2 million pounds
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 28, 2011, 04:29:02 AM
We offered him 40k a week, Newcastle went 52k so off he popped to Newcastle

 Bloody hell!! When was this - I must have been in a coma.

 Addition.

 Just looked-up this fella's statistics, impressive - 4 clubs (not including the 'loon army'), 147 apps', 74 goals.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ballsacks on June 28, 2011, 04:29:37 AM
More like 75k at Newcastle apparently
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 28, 2011, 04:58:33 AM
Bloody hell!! When was this - I must have been in a coma.

 Addition.

 Just looked-up this fella's statistics, impressive - 4 clubs (not including the 'loon army'), 147 apps', 74 goals.

Would have been a good signing but aint gonna lose any sleep over him
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 28, 2011, 05:14:18 AM
 Would have been a good signing but aint gonna lose any sleep over him

 Seeing as I've been in a coma, neither will I, fella'.
                                    ;)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 28, 2011, 05:18:03 AM
Would have been a good signing but aint gonna lose any sleep over him

 Seeing as I've been in a coma, neither will I, fella'.
                                    ;)

Ha you dont want no more sleep pal!!!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 28, 2011, 05:28:20 AM
Ha you dont want no more sleep pal!!!

 Grinnin', Jim.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on June 28, 2011, 06:14:25 PM
Pointless thread, aint gonna sign him are we
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 28, 2011, 08:56:53 PM
 
 I really did think, FH, that when I went to bed last night, that this vastly opinionated thread had also burnt itself out.


aint gonna sign him are we

 I would say, it could be, we have the same chance as us finishing 4th this coming premiership campaign.


  Pointless thread,

 I hope not, fella', and this is why.

 Yes, I would dearly love Dave Moyes to sign (this summer transfer window) Charlie N'Zogbia, or a player very much of his ilk. When, a couple of weeks ago, Si mentioned, in another thread I was following, to another poster, that people at EFC do peruse Everton Fans Forums, that got me secretly thinking : aye, aye, we (all Everton Forum Fan contributors) might actually have a very strong hand-of-cards here, by way of number-power and sensible discussion (of an important topic), for said EFC peruser's to indirectly consider.

 In conclusion.

 When blue Toffee said/typed ;

I wonder what will be the longest running thread this summer?

 I thought, yes. Not for myself, but for the simple reason -

 If EFC people do read the Fans Forums - they will not be able to ignore a topic that has generated such numbers in contributors, such numbers in views, such numbers who are so knowledgeable, and such numbers of Evertonians who are (in June!!!!!!!) so passionate.

 Pointless?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on June 29, 2011, 11:12:43 PM
http://www.clicklancashire.com/sport/wigan-athletic-fc/129845-everton-line-up-bid-for-wigan-athletic-winger-charles-n (http://www.clicklancashire.com/sport/wigan-athletic-fc/129845-everton-line-up-bid-for-wigan-athletic-winger-charles-n)’zogbia.html
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: ForzaItalia on June 29, 2011, 11:17:34 PM
Correct link

http://www.clicklancashire.com/sport/wigan-athletic-fc/129845-everton-line-up-bid-for-wigan-athletic-winger-charles-n’zogbia.html (http://www.clicklancashire.com/sport/wigan-athletic-fc/129845-everton-line-up-bid-for-wigan-athletic-winger-charles-n’zogbia.html)

Fund the move by selling Mikel? Really?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on June 29, 2011, 11:19:07 PM
its just the same fuckin link from the sunday paper ...... hes not signing  JESUS (if he does il eat my words)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on June 29, 2011, 11:20:07 PM
Baffling decision - unless he's done his annual "im unsettled, i want to play in spain someday" and is sulking because he's not good enough to get into the Spanish squad.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: bluedavey on June 29, 2011, 11:30:01 PM
Would you swap Arteta (30yrs old)  for N'Zogbia and someone like Barton (28yrs old) - think i probably would
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 30, 2011, 12:01:17 AM
Correct link

http://www.clicklancashire.com/sport/wigan-athletic-fc/129845-everton-line-up-bid-for-wigan-athletic-winger-charles-n’zogbia.html (http://www.clicklancashire.com/sport/wigan-athletic-fc/129845-everton-line-up-bid-for-wigan-athletic-winger-charles-n’zogbia.html)

 

Fund the move by selling Mikel? Really?

 A new angle to chew over - and at this moment of course, pure conjecture.

 Would the sale of Mikel Arteta (to whoever) result in us being able to acquire N'Zogz' (considering we could/would bend to suit his wage/salary) for this coming season?

 If the definite answer is/would be : yes, that is the case

 Then taking into account various ponderable's of both (mentioned) players. As an example(s); age, flair, injury liabilities, attacking productivity, crowd pleasing ability,

 And I was in the circle of friends of Dave Moyes, who he confided in, and he asked for an opinion of/on the matter :

 I would say -- Dave, do it.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: wigster on June 30, 2011, 12:18:02 AM
surely we will know soon enough if this is a goer or not. be made up if this came off. quality player who can play either flank
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: DennisWilson on June 30, 2011, 12:20:04 AM
A new angle to chew over - and at this moment of course, pure conjecture.

 Would the sale of Mikel Arteta (to whoever) result in us being able to acquire N'Zogz' (considering we could/would bend to suit his wage/salary) for this coming season?

 If the definite answer is/would be : yes, that is the case

 Then taking into account various ponderable's of both (mentioned) players. As an example(s); age, flair, injury liabilities, attacking productivity, crowd pleasing ability,

 And I was in the circle of friends of Dave Moyes, who he confided in, and he asked for an opinion of/on the matter :

 I would say -- Dave, do it.

Billy is a far more sellable asset (due to Arteta's age and wages) and again will not start the season in the first team - if we have to sacrifice, his name should be at the top of the list with Yakubu and Yobo
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on June 30, 2011, 12:20:16 AM
Sweet beard of Zeus stop kicking the tits out of it lads.

22 pages Jimmy the wank and the bloke who keeps abv'in everyones name have been at it now.

Until there's something concrete to go on, there's nothing you've not already said that needs to be said now.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on June 30, 2011, 12:22:53 AM
Billy is a far more sellable asset (due to Arteta's age and wages) and again will not start the season in the first team - if we have to sacrifice, his name should be at the top of the list with Yakubu and Yobo

The key word there is sellable.  Whose stocks is higher?  Arteta has a reputation regardless of form or injury whereas Bily is relatively unknown outside of Russian and Everton.  Arteta would raise far more.  Imo we shouldn't be sacrificing him to sign N'Zogbia as it would leave us up a pacy winger and down a creative midfielder (unless Moyes is going to lean on Osman) but I can see more logic in that than ditching Bily for a loss.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Confucius on June 30, 2011, 12:29:26 AM
The thread that will not die. Might get to 1000 replies on this one than before the one on General chat.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 30, 2011, 12:46:34 AM

his name should be at the top of the list with Yakubu and Yobo

 Den', I agree. The sad thing is, Bily's current reputation is lower than than a snake's belly.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on June 30, 2011, 01:09:12 AM
The key word there is sellable.  Whose stocks is higher?  Arteta has a reputation regardless of form or injury whereas Bily is relatively unknown outside of Russian and Everton. 

Russia is enough. They have oodles of money and the number of foreigners that can play in a league game is limited, so they could potentially pay a fortune for Bily.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: DennisWilson on June 30, 2011, 02:51:17 AM
Russia is enough. They have oodles of money and the number of foreigners that can play in a league game is limited, so they could potentially pay a fortune for Bily.


This. I can't believe not one club in Russia, which appears pretty cash-rich football wise wouldn't take a punt.

As high as Arteta's stock is, only Madrid, Barcelona and (with all the money they seem to have slushing around) Malaga could realistically afford his fee and wages. The rest of Spain is struggling financially.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 30, 2011, 03:22:30 AM
Sweet beard of Zeus stop kicking the tits out of it lads.

22 pages Jimmy the wank and the bloke who keeps abv'in everyones name have been at it now.

Until there's something concrete to go on, there's nothing you've not already said that needs to be said now.

Thats brilliantly funny
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on June 30, 2011, 07:07:56 AM
I really think we should give this a go at getting to 1000 post.Its gone to far now to just give it up.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 30, 2011, 05:59:58 PM

 
 This thread,

 22 pages Jimmy the wank and the bloke who keeps abv'in everyones name have been at it now.

 Until there's something concrete to go on, there's nothing you've not already said that needs to be said now.


 Baines Again, post :

  That initial approach got short shrift from Everton manager David Moyes, but the Goodison Park side are now so cash-strapped they cannot even afford a down payment on their no.1 target, Wigan’s Charles N’Zogbia.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on June 30, 2011, 06:07:52 PM
That's about as concrete as jelly, Les.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: BLUECELT on June 30, 2011, 06:12:47 PM
N'Zogbia is a decent player, no more. He gets a very average amount of goals each season, and tends to play in fits and starts, when he fancies it.

Personally I see little difference between him and Bily, and for me the above statement could apply equally to either of them. I'd only say its a good move if we are able to sell Bily for what we got for him and get N'zog at a price cheaper than that.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 30, 2011, 06:13:42 PM
That's about as concrete as jelly, Les.

You haven't tried is mums/wifes Jelly...
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 30, 2011, 06:24:49 PM
That's about as concrete as jelly, Les.

 Fair point, mate.

 You've now extracted my real point, for needing to add (yet again) to this thread :

 Take Si's account (So proud tonight), of the evening in the company of Dr.France, as an example of being respectful with a comment.

 I really see no need for individuals to post in any thread, comments that are simply, crass.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on June 30, 2011, 06:30:03 PM
I really see no need for individuals to post in any thread, comments that are simply, crass.

I'm afraid that's just the way of the internet.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blue slug on June 30, 2011, 06:34:35 PM
N'Zogbia is a decent player, no more. He gets a very average amount of goals each season, and tends to play in fits and starts, when he fancies it.

Personally I see little difference between him and Bily, and for me the above statement could apply equally to either of them. I'd only say its a good move if we are able to sell Bily for what we got for him and get N'zog at a price cheaper than that.

You sir must never have watched a football match in your life if you believe this to be true. Bily has done nowt since being here with the exception of a handful of matches whereas Nzogbia is a proven premier league winger over the past couple of years
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 30, 2011, 06:48:07 PM

 

 I used to be a postal contributor in an EFC newsgroup many years ago, but left, because in essence, it became an online lunatic asylum.

 Anyway, there were maybe a dozen or so daily posters, who are really sound blokes. One of these sound as a pounders, used to regularly go to our reserve games and one piece of converstaion I remember we had was that he told me of a Charlie N'Zogbia. He said, Moyes should buy him.

 I personally do think :

  Nzogbia is a proven premier league winger over the past couple of years

 He, for the last couple of seasons, does seem to be getting better & better.


Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Kesser08 on June 30, 2011, 06:54:23 PM
Nzogbia is a player that can excite and beat players, last season he carried wigan in so many games scoring some fantastic goals and playing a part in most of wigans creativity to compare him with bily is mental!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on June 30, 2011, 06:54:51 PM
Have we signed him yet?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 30, 2011, 06:57:27 PM
Have we signed him yet?


 No craig, it's June.

                            ;)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: BLUECELT on June 30, 2011, 07:16:32 PM
You sir must never have watched a football match in your life if you believe this to be true. Bily has done nowt since being here with the exception of a handful of matches whereas Nzogbia is a proven premier league winger over the past couple of years

clearly, as an evertonian, i dont watch him every week, only on motd, but hes got 18 goals in 2.5 seasons at wigan, which on games played is almost exactly the same as bily.

he has however played in england for a long time and is more used to it than bily, who i believe would improve given an extended run in the team.

i did say given the right circumstances in any deals, he would be alright.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on June 30, 2011, 07:27:40 PM

 No craig, it's June.

                           

Just gave you a +1 for that
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on June 30, 2011, 07:28:08 PM
clearly, as an evertonian, i dont watch him every week, only on motd, but hes got 18 goals in 2.5 seasons at wigan, which on games played is almost exactly the same as bily.

he has however played in england for a long time and is more used to it than bily, who i believe would improve given an extended run in the team.

i did say given the right circumstances in any deals, he would be alright.

What about assists etc?

Plus Nzogbia's pace makes him a bigger threat than Bily who has been given enough chances.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: NilSatisNisiOptimum on June 30, 2011, 07:35:08 PM
For wingers i don't think goals are the most important stat to look at.  Pienaar was knocked for not scoring much, but he surely was a man who contributed to our squad.  We are in dire need of a winger.  I believe adding one is more important than adding a striker.  NZogbia is definitely the man i want.  I mean other than hazard or navas haha. ;)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on June 30, 2011, 07:37:47 PM
For wingers i don't think goals are the most important stat to look at.  Pienaar was knocked for not scoring much, but he surely was a man who contributed to our squad.  We are in dire need of a winger.  I believe adding one is more important than adding a striker.  NZogbia is definitely the man i want.  I mean other than hazard or navas haha. ;)

I disagree, if Coleman can learn to cross I think a striker is far more vital.  N'Zogbia would be more than welcome but a reliable striker is needed more imo.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: BLUECELT on June 30, 2011, 07:38:26 PM
n'zog had 5 assists last season to bilys 2, not a huge difference you would have to agree, especially when you consider he had a good number of starts more than bily.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: bryan on June 30, 2011, 07:46:49 PM
This group can do 30+ pages on Rasmus Elm.  I expect at least 40 for N'Somnia...
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Kesser08 on June 30, 2011, 07:50:44 PM
stats do not tell the whole story! I have seen Nzogbia play and he is quality, I have seen Bily play and in my opinion he is shite
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on June 30, 2011, 07:57:39 PM
I disagree, if Coleman can learn to cross I think a striker is far more vital.  N'Zogbia would be more than welcome but a reliable striker is needed more imo.

Exactly as you have been saying for over a year now.

I agree with you now, striker is most important with a winger in close second. We can get by with Coleman in that role for another season I think. Although the left side needs work now Pienaar has left, we have no one to play there now.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on June 30, 2011, 08:05:30 PM
Exactly as you have been saying for over a year now.

I agree with you now, striker is most important with a winger in close second. We can get by with Coleman in that role for another season I think. Although the left side needs work now Pienaar has left, we have no one to play there now.

I think neither is really important. We need a central midfielder.

Okay, only kidding about the CM bit, but we need a central attacking midfielder more than we need wingers or strikers.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on June 30, 2011, 08:10:53 PM
But we only have one reliable striker (Beckford) and no one who can play on the wings properly.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: plumber on June 30, 2011, 08:12:08 PM
I disagree, if Coleman can learn to cross I think a striker is far more vital.  N'Zogbia would be more than welcome but a reliable striker is needed more imo.

If Anichebe can learn to score we don't need a striker :woohoo:
I think both - striker and winger - are equally needed.  Saha is old, inconsistent and made of glass, but he is a real striker. And we don't have any decent winger at all.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 30, 2011, 08:18:00 PM
This group can do 30+ pages on Rasmus Elm.  I expect at least 40 for N'Somnia...


 I expect at least 40 for N'Somnia...

 Wasn't that a Joe Kinnear, line, bry.

 That made me chuckle.

 Poor old Joe, like us all, if you're honest, do/can have great difficulty in pronouncing many players' names and Joe (I once read), with no harm meant, just could never get his names right.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on June 30, 2011, 08:24:08 PM
I personally think a winger is top priority, in fact we really need 2. We literally have no wingers at the club at the moment, only makeshift defenders/midfielders. With good service I think we'd see a lot of goals from Beckford, Saha when fit and Cahill.

Obviously I hope we get a forward too but if it was a choice between a striker or winger I'd go with a winger.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on June 30, 2011, 08:34:44 PM
If Anichebe can learn to score we don't need a striker :woohoo:
I think both - striker and winger - are equally needed.  Saha is old, inconsistent and made of glass, but he is a real striker. And we don't have any decent winger at all.

This
We need both equally,I think Moyes stated he is going to try Coleman back in defence next year.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on June 30, 2011, 08:38:54 PM
Still Going?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on June 30, 2011, 08:40:44 PM
How about now? Is it still June?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 30, 2011, 08:49:27 PM
 How about now? Is it still June?

 Because I see no emoticon, I'm guessing you might be a bit peeved.

 If i'm wrong, I apologise.

 If i'm correct.

 Fella', I added a wink. It was a friendly bit of banter.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on June 30, 2011, 08:50:22 PM
How about now? Is it still June?

Shit its the 30th and I havnt done me student finance  :eh:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: .Rimbo. on June 30, 2011, 09:04:15 PM
I think a winger should be number one priority. It's what we've been missing for years. A pacey, direct goal-threat who can damage from wide areas. I know it's risky relying on one striker but I think Beckford showed himself as more than capable of being are number 1 striker next season, and we've also got Saha and a few young lads. A winger would add a massive dimension to our team though, look at what Donovan did in the few months he was here!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on June 30, 2011, 09:12:22 PM
Exactly as you have been saying for over a year now.

I agree with you now, striker is most important with a winger in close second. We can get by with Coleman in that role for another season I think. Although the left side needs work now Pienaar has left, we have no one to play there now.

Ha that long?  At least I am consistent.  Maybe Arteta will get the left mid slot?  Seems to like it there and works well with Baines.  Gives Osman a place in the middle, the lad has earned it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 30, 2011, 09:13:47 PM
  I know it's risky relying on one striker but I think Beckford showed himself as more than capable of being are number 1 striker next season

 I second that. Off the top of my head - did Beckford miss many games last season because of injury.

 A winger would add a massive dimension to our team though, look at what Donovan did in the few months he was here!

 A cracking, for instance.

 
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on June 30, 2011, 09:14:27 PM
That's very true. And it's clear that Fellaini and Arteta are not compatible in the centre, so if Fellaini does stay maybe he'll form a better partnership with Osman.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on June 30, 2011, 09:31:45 PM
How about now? Is it still June?

 Because I see no emoticon, I'm guessing you might be a bit peeved.

 If i'm wrong, I apologise.

 If i'm correct.

 Fella', I added a wink. It was a friendly bit of banter.

I'm just getting more disheartened by the day. Not by the lack of signings (as a lot of sides haven't been up to much, plus the fact more often than not we're late movers in transfer windows) but the lack of everything else. Communication, outgoings, movement on contracts (the Pienaar thing really annoyed me and I can see it happening with Felli). Just give me something to get mildly excited about. I'm not asking much, even fans of Stoke, Sunderland, Newcastle etc get to be excited about things. Why not us?!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 30, 2011, 09:46:54 PM
I'm just getting more disheartened by the day. Not by the lack of signings (as a lot of sides haven't been up to much, plus the fact more often than not we're late movers in transfer windows) but the lack of everything else. Communication, outgoings, movement on contracts (the Pienaar thing really annoyed me and I can see it happening with Felli). Just give me something to get mildly excited about. I'm not asking much, even fans of Stoke, Sunderland, Newcastle etc get to be excited about things. Why not us?!

 Now that's what I'm talking about.

 If I'm ever in a nasty trench (during Evertonian war-time) - I'd purposely trudge over to your spot and gladly go over the top with you.

                                                                                           nod

 Addition.
 
 (the Pienaar thing really annoyed me and I can see it happening with Felli).

 That's the reason I've changed my name - I've done it now (yesterday) in case what you suggest does happen.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: charlatan on July 01, 2011, 03:04:11 AM
I think a winger should be number one priority. It's what we've been missing for years. A pacey, direct goal-threat who can damage from wide areas. I know it's risky relying on one striker but I think Beckford showed himself as more than capable of being are number 1 striker next season, and we've also got Saha and a few young lads. A winger would add a massive dimension to our team though, look at what Donovan did in the few months he was here!

TBH I'd thought we needed both a top quality striker AND a winger, but you make a hell of a point there.  Look at us in 96.  We had Dunc out a lot of the season, with Amokachi, Stuart and Rideout up front for most of the season IIRC.  Hardly world beaters, but look how dangerous we were down to Kanchelskis' pace and directness.

A direct, pacy winger has to be the priority, and I reckon Nzogbia could be just the man to fit the bill.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 01, 2011, 03:07:15 AM
TBH I'd thought we needed both a top quality striker AND a winger, but you make a hell of a point there.  Look at us in 96.  We had Dunc out a lot of the season, with Amokachi, Stuart and Rideout up front for most of the season IIRC.  Hardly world beaters, but look how dangerous we were down to Kanchelskis' pace and directness.
A direct, pacy winger has to be the priority, and I reckon Nzogbia could be just the man to fit the bill.

Kanchelskis was like a striker though, his goalscoring record was superb for a midfielder. 
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: charlatan on July 01, 2011, 03:15:54 AM
Kanchelskis was like a striker though, his goalscoring record was superb for a midfielder. 

Best individual I've seen in an Everton shirt since the mid 80's.  Kanchelskis was fantastic that first 12 months or so.

Remember going to Wrexham for a preseason friendly that he scored all 5 in a 5-0 win, and his own teammates were walking off the pitch shaking their heads at what they had just witnessed.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 01, 2011, 03:17:43 AM
Best individual I've seen in an Everton shirt since the mid 80's.  Kanchelskis was fantastic that first 12 months or so.

Remember going to Wrexham for a preseason friendly that he scored all 5 in a 5-0 win, and his own teammates were walking off the pitch shaking their heads at what they had just witnessed.

He destroyed teams on his own when he was in that mood, he was just unplayable.  I don't think we will see his like in an Everton shirt for a LONG time.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: charlatan on July 01, 2011, 03:18:59 AM
He destroyed teams on his own when he was in that mood, he was just unplayable.  I don't think we will see his like in an Everton shirt for a LONG time.

Definitely.  We can thank the muppets upstairs for that.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 01, 2011, 03:19:26 AM
Remember going to Wrexham for a preseason friendly that he scored all 5 in a 5-0 win, and his own teammates were walking off the pitch shaking their heads at what they had just witnessed.

He scored all 4 goals in a 4-3 win. I was there too, and remember it well :thumbsup:

Quickest and most talented player I've ever seen play (in person).
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: charlatan on July 01, 2011, 03:26:14 AM
He scored all 4 goals in a 4-3 win. I was there too, and remember it well :thumbsup:

The years of alcohol abuse appear to have clouded my memory, unless they played there two years on the run.  LOL

Quote
Quickest and most talented player I've ever seen play (in person).

Probably the quickest I've ever seen in a blue shirt too, but with the skill and brain to use it unlike Radzinski etc.

What I wouldn't give for that Kanchelskis in our side now.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 01, 2011, 03:27:31 AM
The years of alcohol abuse appear to have clouded my memory, unless they played there two years on the run.  LOL

Probably the quickest I've ever seen in a blue shirt too, but with the skill and brain to use it unlike Radzinski etc.

What I wouldn't give for that Kanchelskis in our side now.

Someone with his ability would push us top four imo.  He was World Class without question.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 01, 2011, 03:27:56 AM
Remember the title winning team of '85 and '87 would you put him in that team ahead of Trevor Steven ? thats a tough one,because although Andrei was probably a better player,Steven was a better team player,and that team of '85 / '87,was based on teamwork not individuals,opinions ?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 01, 2011, 03:29:21 AM
What I wouldn't give for that Kanchelskis in our side now.

I'd strangle a dolphin to be honest.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 01, 2011, 03:31:46 AM
Remember the title winning team of '85 and '87 would you put him in that team ahead of Trevor Steven ? thats a tough one,because although Andrei was probably a better player,Steven was a better team player,and that team of '85 / '87,was based on teamwork not individuals,opinions ?

It's a difficult one.  That team worked so well as a unit and they already had Sheedy who was probably the only one in that team who wasn't a total team player.  Could they accomodate another?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: charlatan on July 01, 2011, 03:35:57 AM
Remember the title winning team of '85 and '87 would you put him in that team ahead of Trevor Steven ? thats a tough one,because although Andrei was probably a better player,Steven was a better team player,and that team of '85 / '87,was based on teamwork not individuals,opinions ?

Nope no way.  Cracking player as Kanchelskis was, there's no way Sharpy would have got his 30 or Gray his dozen or so without Tricky's service.  That side was footballing perfection.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 01, 2011, 03:38:15 AM
Fuck me were not even talking about Nzogbia anymore  :tit:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 01, 2011, 03:39:02 AM
Fuck me were not even talking about Nzogbia anymore  :tit:

Fuck N'Zogbia. 
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: charlatan on July 01, 2011, 03:39:47 AM
Fuck me were not even talking about Nzogbia anymore  :tit:

ahh, but it appears we've got as much chance of signing Tricky Trev or Kanchelskis as we seem to have of signing Nzogbia   :snigger:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gash on July 01, 2011, 03:50:28 AM
Fuck me were not even talking about Nzogbia anymore  :tit:

Who?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on July 01, 2011, 03:51:43 AM
This is the thread that never sleeps.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 01, 2011, 03:54:59 AM
This is the thread that never sleeps.

 I've just laughed so much, my jaw is proper aching. Fantastic.

                                                 
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: JoeHart on July 01, 2011, 04:00:51 AM
your expecting moyes to break the habit of his lifetime and sign a winger.

he has tried it once with shandy, and he hasnt considered one since.

maybe natural wingers dont do enough defensive work for davey

i dream of the day when everton go back to 2 pacey wingers who can dribble on each side running at full backs.

those where the days.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Confucius on July 01, 2011, 04:35:30 AM
I'd strangle a dolphin to be honest.

Dolphins, not too fussed. What about your cat?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Dublin Toffee on July 01, 2011, 05:14:57 AM
Looks like he may well end up at Villa soon according to reports :(
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 01, 2011, 05:23:19 AM
Dolphins, not too fussed. What about your cat?

You watch your mouth.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 01, 2011, 06:55:27 AM
Looks like he may well end up at Villa soon according to reports :(

Kanchelskis?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: christiffa25 on July 01, 2011, 12:49:50 PM
I'd put money on him ending up at villa. Don't know why I can just ser him in a villa shirt but cant an Everton 1
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: plumber on July 01, 2011, 02:34:23 PM
I'd put money on him ending up at villa. Don't know why I can just ser him in a villa shirt but cant an Everton 1


Don't think so. He is 42 now and hasn't played for 5 years. Too big risk for Villa.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 01, 2011, 02:59:20 PM
Don't think so. He is 42 now and hasn't played for 5 years. Too big risk for Villa.

He's no Pires.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 01, 2011, 03:03:38 PM
sooner  nzogbia signs for somebody else (as we wont get him) the better so we can close this thread before it reaches record pages
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Tony Clifton on July 01, 2011, 03:22:46 PM
He's no Pires.

 :snigger:

16856 thread views and we still haven't enough for a down payment on Charlie?  Moyes should use quotes from this thread at a forthcoming press conference.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 01, 2011, 03:26:36 PM
:snigger:

16856 thread views and we still haven't enough for a down payment on Charlie?  Moyes should use quotes from this thread at a forthcoming press conference.

be hilarious if he quotes Silas

Fuck N'Zogbia. 
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 01, 2011, 03:26:58 PM
Maybe if Si adds a pop up ad to this thread we can raise enough ourselves!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 01, 2011, 11:13:55 PM
:snigger:

16856 thread views and we still haven't enough for a down payment on Charlie?  Moyes should use quotes from this thread at a forthcoming press conference.

Is that William Regal in your avatar?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 01, 2011, 11:23:25 PM
Looks like he may well end up at Villa soon according to reports :(

 Correct.

 http://www.football365.com/news/21554/7013601/Villa-ready-to-launch-Zog-bid (http://www.football365.com/news/21554/7013601/Villa-ready-to-launch-Zog-bid)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 01, 2011, 11:24:58 PM
Have we missed out on signing him yet?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 01, 2011, 11:27:42 PM
Have we missed out on signing him yet?

 Massive smile over here.
                     ;)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: wigster on July 01, 2011, 11:41:45 PM
he will defo go to villa, they have the money to pay him what he wants plus a chairman that actuals shows ambition and back the manager...out of all players we have been linked with for me this is the one I really wanted. would bring so much to our team.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Tony Clifton on July 01, 2011, 11:44:38 PM
Is that William Regal in your avatar?

Yup.  Or Steve Regal as he was known back then (his first WWF stint).
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 01, 2011, 11:49:56 PM
" a chairman that shows ambition" and backs the manager...  BORING i hate kenwrong myself but u must know he has no money so he cant give what he hasnt got can he?... we need  investment or kenwrong to sell to somebody that can.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: plumber on July 02, 2011, 12:27:31 AM
he will defo go to villa, they have the money to pay him what he wants plus a chairman that actuals shows ambition and back the manager...

Yeah right, ask O'Neill.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 02, 2011, 12:29:58 AM
Yeah right, ask O'Neill.

The same O'Neil that was given £80m to spend?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: efcraz on July 02, 2011, 12:36:18 AM
The same O'Neil that was given £80m to spend?

and look where that got villa, seriously, people need to realise we are not that bad off!!! where has learner got villa???   
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 02, 2011, 12:39:15 AM
and look where that got villa, seriously, people need to realise we are not that bad off!!! where has learner got villa???   

Bad management elsewhere doesn't mean we should be looking for money. 
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: wigster on July 02, 2011, 12:40:08 AM
yeah I know he has no money, jesus christ. I was pointing out that he will go to villa due to the wages they offer and a chairman that backs the manager in the transfer market.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: efcraz on July 02, 2011, 12:42:17 AM
actually ive never been a fan of blue bill, but fuck it, its about time someone really stuck up for him, look at hearts, if it was
 up to their multi million pound owner they would be so in the shit, its unreal.

united and the glazers, they cant wait to get rid of them, liverpool and hicks and gillette!!!

bimingham and young!!! if you really want someone like these cunts' in charge then sell to the first bidder!!

i still honestly think bill wants the best for the club and wont sell untill he finds him
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: charlatan on July 02, 2011, 12:49:20 AM
i honestly think bill wants the club for a plaything and wont sell to anybody

Fixed ;)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 02, 2011, 12:50:21 AM
and look where that got villa, seriously, people need to realise we are not that bad off!!! where has learner got villa???   

I didn't say it got them anywhere. But to say he got nothing (or little) is wrong.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 02, 2011, 12:55:11 AM
actually ive never been a fan of blue bill, but fuck it, its about time someone really stuck up for him, look at hearts, if it was
 up to their multi million pound owner they would be so in the shit, its unreal.

united and the glazers, they cant wait to get rid of them, liverpool and hicks and gillette!!!

bimingham and young!!! if you really want someone like these cunts' in charge then sell to the first bidder!!

i still honestly think bill wants the best for the club and wont sell untill he finds him

The thing is, the important thing is that I don't expect, nor do I want an owner who'll just throw cash around like some crazy sheik on cocaine. What we'd need is an owner who can provide the financial cushion for us not to be mugged every single transfer window. Look at the Yobo shambles: if we weren't in desperate need for the fee, Fenerbahce would've probably paid out the agreed price already. But they haven't because they know we can't afford not to take the deal.

If we had an owner who would be able to put money in the club if push came to shove, he wouldn't have to.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 02, 2011, 12:56:43 AM
 :whistle:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: plumber on July 02, 2011, 01:04:35 AM
I didn't say it got them anywhere. But to say he got nothing (or little) is wrong.
Last summer (when he left) he didn't even get the money for Milner.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 02, 2011, 01:09:23 AM
I believe if Lerner had taken us over, we'd be in Europe now.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 02, 2011, 01:09:39 AM
The thing is, the important thing is that I don't expect, nor do I want an owner who'll just throw cash around like some crazy sheik on cocaine. What we'd need is an owner who can provide the financial cushion for us not to be mugged every single transfer window. Look at the Yobo shambles: if we weren't in desperate need for the fee, Fenerbahce would've probably paid out the agreed price already. But they haven't because they know we can't afford not to take the deal.

If we had an owner who would be able to put money in the club if push came to shove, he wouldn't have to.

Thing is mate its not just kenwright is it,there are 2 other major shareholders doin f- - - -all as well Earl and Woods.I am the same dont want to buy the world just 10 /15 mill each season. like they used to promise 1 major signing a year to Moyes remember Fellaini /Yak signings years ago,that kept us and Moyes reasonably happy.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 02, 2011, 01:12:32 AM
I believe if Lerner had taken us over, we'd be in Europe now.

Totally agree with Moyes at the helm spending the money right :thumbsup: +1 from me
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 02, 2011, 01:14:56 AM
And with a tactically aware manager, we'd be CL regulars :)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 02, 2011, 01:15:16 AM
Last summer (when he left) he didn't even get the money for Milner.

Your point?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: IUToffee on July 02, 2011, 01:38:08 AM
actually ive never been a fan of blue bill, but fuck it, its about time someone really stuck up for him, look at hearts, if it was
 up to their multi million pound owner they would be so in the shit, its unreal.

united and the glazers, they cant wait to get rid of them, liverpool and hicks and gillette!!!

bimingham and young!!! if you really want someone like these cunts' in charge then sell to the first bidder!!

i still honestly think bill wants the best for the club and wont sell untill he finds him

This is all fine and dandy but how many times does Kenwright have to screw up before we don't give him the benefit of the doubt? Kings Dock, Fortress Sports Fund, Manny, Gosling, "watch this space," etc.... Yet we still have fans who put their full belief in him? He doesn't have any money, yet he continues to make a mockery of EFC. But let's still give him a handy and think the best of him.

(Still waiting on that McFadden money, the Pienaar money, and now the Vaughan money...)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 02, 2011, 01:39:07 AM
And with a tactically aware manager, we'd be CL regulars :)

 Seriously. You are obviously held in high esteem in here, fella' (I can understand why).
                                                         nod

 I would hazard a guess though, if 95% of other posters were to say/post similair, they would get more flak than the Baghdad air sorties of the "shock and awe" American, Iraq Invasion Campaign.
                                                           :o
                                                        
                                                                                

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: andrei on July 02, 2011, 01:39:10 AM
And with a tactically aware manager, we'd be CL regulars :)

ur a dirty fuck go support someone else.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 02, 2011, 01:46:49 AM
Seriously. You are obviously held in high esteem in here, fella' (I can understand why).
                                                         nod

 I would hazard a guess though, if 95% of other posters were to say/post similair, they would get more flak than the Baghdad air sorties of the "shock and awe" American, Iraq Invasion Campaign.
                                                           :o
                                                         
                                                                                 


lol I get my fair share of flack on here.

I'm not Moyes' greatest fan, he's done a good job, but I don't believe even with great sums of money he'd regularly get us CL football. I rank him around the same level as Mark Hughes. Am coming to the conclusion that at our level we won't get much better than him though which is worrying.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 02, 2011, 01:48:45 AM
This thread is becoming an Everton Forum within an Everton forum :)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 02, 2011, 01:49:28 AM
  I'm not Moyes' greatest fan, he's done a good job, but I don't believe even with great sums of money he'd regularly get us CL football. I rank him around the same level as Mark Hughes. Am coming to the conclusion that at our level we won't get much better than him though which is worrying.

 I agree with every single word.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 02, 2011, 01:51:23 AM
ur a dirty fuck go support someone else.

Dear me.
Title: Get off my toes!
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 02, 2011, 01:51:36 AM
actually ive never been a fan of blue bill, but fuck it, its about time someone really stuck up for him, look at hearts, if it was
 up to their multi million pound owner they would be so in the shit, its unreal.

united and the glazers, they cant wait to get rid of them, liverpool and hicks and gillette!!!

bimingham and young!!! if you really want someone like these cunts' in charge then sell to the first bidder!!

i still honestly think bill wants the best for the club and wont sell untill he finds him


excuse me? fuck you.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 02, 2011, 02:33:57 AM
Dear me.

I think he was playing off mine and Les's posts Jam. At least that's how I've taken it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 02, 2011, 02:36:37 AM
Can we change the name of this thread to the official Everton discussion thread?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 02, 2011, 02:41:15 AM
I think he was playing off mine and Les's posts Jam. At least that's how I've taken it.

 You might not believe this, After finishing my composition and went back to the forum - my post (the one you're referring to ), had beaten the other post (below mine - which I didn't know existed at the time), by 34 seconds.  

 No messi ing - for one or two minutes I was in shock & awe - the reason being, a post was delivered with type saying the opposite of what I'd just typed.
                                                                             :o

 Addition.

 Obviously, the poster of the comment under mine, wouldn't have known that my post was about to exist.

 Any clearer - about as clear as a toilet pan after eating a vindaloo.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: brap2 on July 02, 2011, 03:14:36 AM
so let me get this straight...the cops knew he was from internal affairs all along?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 02, 2011, 03:16:29 AM
so let me get this straight...the cops knew he was from internal affairs all along?

 I'm rolling on the floor here, with laughter.

                                             lolol

                                    
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Azz on July 02, 2011, 03:59:12 AM
Have we signed him yet?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 02, 2011, 04:49:56 AM
Who ?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gash on July 02, 2011, 04:57:57 AM
I stopped reading this thread about 10 pages ago.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 02, 2011, 06:04:00 AM
(http://mjoines.com/files/images/Misc/thread_cat.jpg)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Confucius on July 02, 2011, 12:04:04 PM
At least we don't have new pointless threads sprouting up all the time. Everything just going in here.

As Jamo would say, Brilliant!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: bluedavey on July 02, 2011, 05:55:04 PM
While we are sticking everything in one thread, can't believe manny fernandes signed for besitkas for €2million. Can't believe how much his value has plummeted.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 02, 2011, 05:59:13 PM
Why we sticking everything in one thread, can't believe manny fernandes signed for besitkas for €2million. Can't believe how much his value has plummeted.

We're not....you are though.

I thought your Fanny Mernandes news warranted its own thread, too late now ;)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: bluedavey on July 02, 2011, 06:03:00 PM
We're not....you are though.

I thought your Fanny Mernandes news warranted its own thread, too late now ;)


Chill out fella, start a new thread if you want, I won't hold it against you  ;)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 02, 2011, 06:03:49 PM
Why we sticking everything in one thread, can't believe manny fernandes signed for besitkas for €2million. Can't believe how much his value has plummeted.

Cos he is shite.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 02, 2011, 06:04:28 PM
Now for €2 million, I would have gone for Fernandes too, shipped out Fellaini, Rodwell or Arteta and gone for N'zogbia and Defoe.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 02, 2011, 06:18:44 PM
Ffs he is decent but he is also one of the most overrated players I have ever seen wear the shirt.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on July 02, 2011, 06:40:12 PM
Ffs he is decent but he is also one of the most overrated players I have ever seen wear the shirt.

Behave man he's fucking quality.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 02, 2011, 06:47:49 PM
Fernandes is ok, but still potential. For that money, he would have been worth buying.
Title: They preferred to be called 'Easy Lovers'
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 02, 2011, 07:38:34 PM
He was out pretty much every night in town whilst he was here. I saw him a few times on the docks surrounded by orange duck-faced slags. Not sure why this is relevant, I thought he was good though, not amazing and he certainly hasn't lived up to his potential, probably due to all the slags.
Title: Re: They preferred to be called 'Easy Lovers'
Post by: Tony Clifton on July 02, 2011, 08:00:39 PM
He was out pretty much every night in town whilst he was here. I saw him a few times on the docks surrounded by orange duck-faced slags. Not sure why this is relevant, I thought he was good though, not amazing and he certainly hasn't lived up to his potential, probably due to all the slags.

He's still in touch with some of our local *ahem* talent.

Now for €2 million, I would have gone for Fernandes too, shipped out Fellaini, Rodwell or Arteta and gone for N'zogbia and Defoe.

No coincidence that Arteta played some his best football while Fernandes was here. 
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 02, 2011, 08:34:57 PM
Ffs he is decent but he is also one of the most overrated players I have ever seen wear the shirt.

+1
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 02, 2011, 09:35:04 PM
Still going then
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 02, 2011, 09:37:57 PM
Manny is simply miles ahead of our other midfielders in terms of creativity.
Um, he's never proven it so far, what do you base your suggestion on?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 02, 2011, 09:44:24 PM
he also broke his leg not long after moving to Portugal, and then there was a change of manager to someone who didn't like him

hasn't he also been playing in defence quite a bit too?  a bit of a strange positional change for someone so technically gifted but might explain why he hasn't lit up the back pages

most modern footballers are twats and hang round with slags.  it's part of the lifestyle now.  it's only really our over 30's players that don't at Everton, and even then it's only because Phil Neville blows them up while he's stood outside the bars pointing in at them.

if Fernandes had signed for us we would have seen his career take a much different route than it has, which is a shame for both parties


 Si, the bit I've 'bolded' is hilarious.
                                        :thumbsup:
                           
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: everton-4-ever on July 02, 2011, 11:35:33 PM
amazes me how fernandes allways mangages to get himself in most threads

if he could get into teams the way he gets into threads he may have been a player !
Title: Boring
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 03, 2011, 12:10:00 AM
Manuel Fernandes (Assist) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k7NLhjG22g#ws)

The day any of our players can pull off an assist like this, I'll take back what I said.

That Derby game was horrific.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 03, 2011, 12:10:10 AM
 Who's the left-back who began that move, beating a Derby player, advancing, passing the ball, ghosting through 3 Derby players, then cleverly making 2 Derby players lose their bearings, allowing the opportunity to make the space for the ball to be passed to Osman - is it Leighton Baines.

 If so, Leighton Baines was the brains behind that particular move to end in a goal.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Tony Clifton on July 03, 2011, 12:11:52 AM
Who's the left-back who began that move, beating a Derby player, advancing, ghosting through 3 Derby players, then cleverly making 2 Derby players lose their bearings, allowing the opportunity to make the space for the ball to be passed to Osman - is it Leighton Baines.

 If so, Leighton Baines was the brains behind that particular move to end in a goal.

You're a fucking cure for insomnia you are.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 03, 2011, 12:17:29 AM
Manuel Fernandes (Assist) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k7NLhjG22g#ws)

The day any of our players can pull off an assist like this, I'll take back what I said.

Arteta can, Fellaini can, Heitinga can, basically anyone not called Phil Neville can. At least with the success rate of Manny, which was about one out of ten.

The million dollar question is: how many of our players are capable of such a brilliant diagonal run?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 03, 2011, 12:23:15 AM
I've never seen either of them players pull off a pass like that during their time here.

Because there's nobody to pass to. Honestly, that pass is piss easy for anyone who wasn't brought up to kick and rush..

Making those killer runs is much harder, it requires a lot more imagination. Ossie is our only player who can consistently come up with these runs and probably Beckford could do it too, but he's too far forward to run between midfield and back line.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 03, 2011, 12:28:26 AM
You're a fucking cure for insomnia you are.

 And you have a picture of a buffoon of a Professional Wrestler in an EPL team's football fans forum.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 03, 2011, 12:29:54 AM
Fernandes flattered to deceive when he was with us. I can only think of two or three games where he was exceptional.

But for the price he's just gone for, I'd certainly take him.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: plumber on July 03, 2011, 12:41:52 AM
Jesus Christ.
You cannot be safe even in N'Zogbia thread. Fernandes will find you everywhere.
Title: snods on city fm
Post by: true1891blue on July 03, 2011, 12:49:04 AM
i never listened so if some one else can confirm a friend has said

 "Was listening to Snodders on radio today an he was talkin to 1 of Everton coaching staff and he confirmed Yobo is off to Fenebache for 5m which is going towards N'Zogbia! They plan on charles being at the club b4 pre season starts! So im happy with that!

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 03, 2011, 12:49:29 AM
Jesus Christ.
You cannot be safe even in N'Zogbia thread. Fernandes will find you everywhere.
lolol lolol

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjEyNTcyMTUwNV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNTc4ODQ2._V1._SX311_SY450_.jpg)
Heeeeeeere's Manny!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: true1891blue on July 03, 2011, 12:52:53 AM
manny manny manny, mannys gunna get ya !!!!!
Title: Re: snods on city fm
Post by: wigster on July 03, 2011, 12:53:15 AM
he was speakin wiv chris woods but i didnt hear that
Title: Re: snods on city fm
Post by: true1891blue on July 03, 2011, 12:55:25 AM
thanx was just woundering and im board of the zog thread slash manny thread
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Tony Clifton on July 03, 2011, 01:08:18 AM
And you have a picture of a buffoon of a Professional Wrestler in an EPL team's football fans forum.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: bluemanx3 on July 03, 2011, 01:42:25 AM
i love everton, i hate we have no money, we are not getting him, its so sad this thread is so long to no avail
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 03, 2011, 01:49:28 AM
I think he'll probably end up at Villa
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 03, 2011, 02:33:55 AM
I think he'll probably end up at Villa

Fernandes, N'Zogbia or Kanchelskis?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Tony Clifton on July 03, 2011, 02:36:15 AM
What's Andrei up to these days I wonder?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 03, 2011, 02:36:49 AM
What's Andrei up to these days I wonder?

Management
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 03, 2011, 02:39:30 AM
Fernandes, N'Zogbia or Kanchelskis?

N'zogbia
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 03, 2011, 02:43:17 AM
N'zogbia

Probably, right now I think pretty much anywhere but here.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 03, 2011, 02:49:20 AM
Fernandes, N'Zogbia or Kanchelskis?

Moyes.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: andrei on July 03, 2011, 02:56:30 AM
Kanchelskis cant even see how u can put the other two in the same group as Andri.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: .Rimbo. on July 03, 2011, 05:49:48 AM
Fernandes, N'Zogbia or Kanchelskis?

lolol
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: marky v on July 03, 2011, 06:09:45 AM
This is nearly 100 pages on blackberry,  madness or genius?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gray90 on July 04, 2011, 10:50:46 PM
Villa ready to make a bid according to sky.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: christiffa25 on July 04, 2011, 11:28:08 PM
Villa have lost young and will loose downing, mcleash wanted to sign him for brum so he will end up there!
They have money to burn for transfer and wages. We have neither !!

It's never going to happen
But tbh I'm not sure how much or if at all moyes wants him as you would think we would of made a move by now if we really wanted him
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 04, 2011, 11:29:09 PM
But tbh I'm not sure how much or if at all moyes wants him as you would think we would of made a move by now if we really wanted him

No offence meant but are you a woman?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on July 04, 2011, 11:30:53 PM
Villa have lost young and will loose downing, mcleash wanted to sign him for brum so he will end up there!
They have money to burn for transfer and wages. We have neither !!

It's never going to happen
But tbh I'm not sure how much or if at all moyes wants him as you would think we would of made a move by now if we really wanted him

He cant make his move, unless wigan want paid in buttons.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 04, 2011, 11:32:07 PM
Villa have lost young and will loose downing, mcleash wanted to sign him for brum so he will end up there!
They have money to burn for transfer and wages. We have neither !!

It's never going to happen
But tbh I'm not sure how much or if at all moyes wants him as you would think we would of made a move by now if we really wanted him

Can't make a move for a player if you have no money to fund a bid.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Alanvideo on July 04, 2011, 11:34:17 PM
i love everton, i hate we have no money, we are not getting him, its so sad this thread is so long to no avail

I think he'll probably end up at Villa
.........I think you're right Verm because Villa is an anagram of  avail ( well nearly )  lolol lolol lolol  :bonk:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: cantoffee on July 04, 2011, 11:50:03 PM
No offence meant but are you a woman?

lolol
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: christiffa25 on July 04, 2011, 11:52:23 PM
But we do have money... Pianaar Vaughan ect.  Not vast amounts obviously but if as reported 4.5m down payment would secure and he was our no.1 target I'm sure we could do that.

I know we are skint and we harp on about it but we don't exactly have nothing, zilch, buttons... It's impossible there will be some there not much but some. Just makes me question how much we might or might not want him let's not forget it's all paper talk so far that's all
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on July 05, 2011, 12:24:47 AM
But we do have money... Pianaar Vaughan ect.  Not vast amounts obviously but if as reported 4.5m down payment would secure and he was our no.1 target I'm sure we could do that.

I know we are skint and we harp on about it but we don't exactly have nothing, zilch, buttons... It's impossible there will be some there not much but some. Just makes me question how much we might or might not want him let's not forget it's all paper talk so far that's all

Yeah im just kidding, We have all that money. The banks cleared our debt, for the craic.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 05, 2011, 12:29:02 AM
Management

Debt Mangement?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: kunal32 on July 05, 2011, 12:35:39 AM
A thread 33 pages and counting on player we are not getting..... shakeyheadman
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: christiffa25 on July 06, 2011, 02:11:05 PM
Well in my personel opinion I'm officially pronouncing this one dead !!
As much as I and everyone can see a perfect signing available in a position we are desperate for it's just not going to happen

The main reason being Villa and the red shite and our incompetence
Young has gone, downing will complete £20M this week i recon and villa will no doubt complete N'zogbia deal. Very enoying as we could of had this tied up by now whilst villa were in a mess. Maybe we really are that skint... Depressing times ahead I feel
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: plumber on July 06, 2011, 03:24:42 PM
Maybe we really are that skint...

Hello!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: aylesbury blue on July 06, 2011, 04:21:39 PM
But we do have money... Pianaar Vaughan ect.  Not vast amounts obviously but if as reported 4.5m down payment would secure and he was our no.1 target I'm sure
we could do that.

But do we still have the Vaughan and pienaar money. I imagine that has vanished!!! We won't see a penny of that!!!!
I know we are skint and we harp on about it but we don't exactly have nothing, zilch, buttons... It's impossible there will be some there not much but some. Just makes me question how much we might or might not want him let's not forget it's all paper talk so far that's all

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Krissy on July 06, 2011, 05:07:37 PM
I think the reality is the Pienaar/Vaughan money is gone. It won't be reinvested in player purchases.
That's why we're trying so hard to sell Yobo/Yak and there may be some cash available then. Unless we sell one of our more saleable "assets".
It's seriously depressing when you see everyone else buying players..
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 06, 2011, 05:12:15 PM
if this is the case ( like ive said on other threads) and got slated for saying " moyes wont see all the player sales money" according to bobby orange....
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 06, 2011, 05:25:00 PM
Moyes has seen all of it or close to all of it in year's past.

Not that that's a great endorsement of our ownership. It's just about the only fact our sorry owner's groupies have these days. So you'll see them hurl it at his critics like it's a thunderbolt from Zeus. Again and again.

Thing is, though, we've never been in this bad a financial shape before. So some of the sell fees could well get siphoned off for debt service this year.

We won't really know until Sept. 1, though.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: plumber on July 06, 2011, 07:03:56 PM
Incredible thread. From the first page till the last.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 06, 2011, 07:27:40 PM
Incredible thread. From the first page till the last.

Thanks mate :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 06, 2011, 07:29:46 PM
Incredible thread. From the first page till the last.

This isn't the end of this thread.
This isn't even the beginning of the end of this thread.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Awesome_soccer on July 06, 2011, 07:31:35 PM
This isn't the end of this thread.
This isn't even the beginning of the end of this thread.

Could anyone summarise it for me?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 06, 2011, 07:35:12 PM
Could anyone summarise it for me?
We want him.

We won't get him.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 06, 2011, 07:41:49 PM
How many more pages until this thread catches the Kyle Naughton one from two years back?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 06, 2011, 09:33:48 PM
This is my favourite thread of all time.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 06, 2011, 10:01:20 PM
I'm James Vaughan
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Dublin Toffee on July 06, 2011, 10:07:58 PM
This thread is only so popular because we all know he's exactly what we need.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Macca77 on July 06, 2011, 10:09:03 PM
This thread is only so popular because we all know he's exactly what we need.

....but deep down we all know that we wont get him.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 06, 2011, 10:11:25 PM
This thread is only so popular because we all know he's exactly what we need.

He's the new Landon.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 06, 2011, 10:17:25 PM
He's the new Lee Trundle
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: nebs on July 06, 2011, 10:22:03 PM
Still not ruling this out from happening. The proof will come when Yobo finally goes. If we don't sign him then, we never will.

Shows you how skint we are when we can't even make a down payment on him. Remember we have the £3m from Pienaar plus we have saved about 35k a week on Pienaar's wages. That adds up to (can't be bothered doing the math) about £4m+. I'm sure Wigan would take that for now, and get the rest in chunks.

Knowing us, we'll sell Yobo, offer a derisory amount to Wigan for Zog, and he'll end up at Villa after Downing goes.

 lolol

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 06, 2011, 10:22:17 PM
So then have we all officially given up signing anyone good then ?This attitude,lethargy we all now seem to have acquired vindicates my decision not to renew my season ticket.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 06, 2011, 10:29:31 PM
kenwright and co need to all be  put in front of a firing squad..... no thats harsh just send them on a 1 way to ticket to never never land.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on July 06, 2011, 11:24:26 PM
kenwright and co need to all be  put in front of a firing squad..... no thats harsh just send them on a 1 way to ticket to never never land.
[/quote

Firing squad sounds better.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blue slug on July 06, 2011, 11:48:14 PM
Good to see this thread going strong. I am going to be optimistic and say we will sign him
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 06, 2011, 11:50:34 PM
hahaaha blue tinted specs son :)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 07, 2011, 01:18:42 AM
Don't worry lads, he's shite anyway.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Trowel on July 07, 2011, 04:22:30 AM
https://twitter.com/#!/sahaoliv08

Saha's brother was having a chat with him earlier today, says he spoke to Nzogbia recently who said he's joining Villa.

I miss the days when all we had was p312 on Teletext updating with rumours once a day, and our blind optimism couldn't be stamped on so easily.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 07, 2011, 04:24:17 AM
fuck of  KENWRIGHT
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 07, 2011, 04:24:28 AM
https://twitter.com/#!/sahaoliv08

Saha's brother was having a chat with him earlier today, says he spoke to Nzogbia recently who said he's joining Villa.

I miss the days when all we had was p312 on Teletext updating with rumours once a day, and our blind optimism couldn't be stamped on so easily.

Is this the tread ending post?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Confucius on July 07, 2011, 04:25:33 AM
Is this the tread ending post?

No this one is.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Confucius on July 07, 2011, 04:26:00 AM
Nope, I was wrong , it's the post after next.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 07, 2011, 04:26:44 AM
To beat the thread you must become the thread
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 07, 2011, 04:28:52 AM
35 pages for a player we was never going to sign. ive given up now with any signings coming :eh:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on July 07, 2011, 04:30:41 AM
fuck of  KENWRIGHT
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Craig_1878 on July 07, 2011, 04:33:29 AM
We can dream

Charles N'Zogbia | Goals & Assists 2010/2011 | ☆HD 720p☆ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar6YhENN6Og#ws)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 07, 2011, 04:45:55 AM
You know your a special player when you have a 35 page thread about you.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: cantoffee on July 07, 2011, 01:04:54 PM
fuck of  KENWRIGHT

You've found his sex tape with Lindsey Lohan? I'd heard the rumours but never thought he would ever go that low.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 07, 2011, 03:41:38 PM
You know your a special player when you have a 35 page thread about you.

He was probably on the verge of signing for us, then saw this thread and freaked out.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Norwegiantoffee on July 08, 2011, 05:07:30 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/755304-epl-transfer-rumours-the-12-most-overrated-players-about-to-be-signed/page/2 (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/755304-epl-transfer-rumours-the-12-most-overrated-players-about-to-be-signed/page/2)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 08, 2011, 05:11:18 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/755304-epl-transfer-rumours-the-12-most-overrated-players-about-to-be-signed/page/2 (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/755304-epl-transfer-rumours-the-12-most-overrated-players-about-to-be-signed/page/2)

Every player there except SWP is a good player.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: cantoffee on July 08, 2011, 07:40:07 AM
Every player there except SWP is a good player.

I know, most of them would be in our 1st team.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 08, 2011, 07:46:07 AM
I know, most of them would be in our 1st team.

Apart from Rodwell  ;)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: aylesbury blue on July 08, 2011, 04:19:37 PM
HE hasn't signed for Villa yet so it's still possible!!!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 08, 2011, 04:25:21 PM
he has said hes signing for villa mate.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 08, 2011, 04:39:02 PM
It's alright. I hear he's shit at scrabble and ping pong.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 08, 2011, 05:31:00 PM
he has said hes signing for villa mate.

Source?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 08, 2011, 05:36:22 PM
somebody posted it yesterday ( it was louis sahas brother on twitter asking him)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 08, 2011, 05:58:25 PM
somebody posted it yesterday ( it was louis sahas brother on twitter asking him)

Bahahahahahahaha!

Concrete.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 08, 2011, 06:02:36 PM
somebody posted it yesterday ( it was louis sahas brother on twitter asking him)

Jesus
Title: Not even close
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 08, 2011, 06:20:08 PM
this matty1878 has to be a wind up, nobody is that stupid!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 08, 2011, 07:04:48 PM
weres that being stupid? im saying what somebody else posted on here. when i was asked " source"
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 08, 2011, 08:31:46 PM
weres that being stupid? im saying what somebody else posted on here. when i was asked " source"

Please stop, for your own good.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: fritzlsloveden on July 08, 2011, 09:11:27 PM
Please stop, for your own good.
lolol
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 08, 2011, 10:13:30 PM
fuck of il put what i like :thumbsup:
Title: Advice
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 08, 2011, 11:20:23 PM
matty, matty, matty, you're embarrassing yourself! Start posting better, please!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 08, 2011, 11:25:35 PM
why? if you can undersrand me it shoudnt matter.  nod
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: cantoffee on July 08, 2011, 11:27:12 PM
why? if you can undersrand me it shoudnt matter.  nod

We understand you, it's just that you suck and it would be much better if you didn't.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 08, 2011, 11:30:55 PM
i didnt ask you did i ? you old fart be quiet.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 08, 2011, 11:40:27 PM
 The sense of humour in here, for maybe the last six pages, should be made into audio and put on Radio Merseyside and or, Radio City.

 Brilliant, just brilliant.

                                                                                           :thumbsup:
                                 
Title: Suckhead
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 08, 2011, 11:41:17 PM

We understand you, it's just that you suck and it would be much better if you didn't.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 08, 2011, 11:43:10 PM
who talks like tha? "  u suck if u didnt" fuckinell... sort it out :wanker:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: cantoffee on July 08, 2011, 11:44:29 PM
Matty, you are the king.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: evertonjoe on July 08, 2011, 11:50:24 PM
who talks like tha? "  u suck if u didnt" fuckinell... sort it out :wanker:

Serious question buddy how old are you?

Because if you're over 11 then the stuff you've posted in this thread is downright embarrassing.

It's amazing that this thread is still going strong since there's been nothing about N'Zogbia in the media for weeks.
Obviously I'd love him here but I really just can't see it happening as I reckon he'll have moved elsewhere by the time we get money together through sales.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 08, 2011, 11:53:11 PM
haha i coudnt care less of what people think of my typing   :cheers:. and evertonjoe id love him here mate it wont happen
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: evertonjoe on July 08, 2011, 11:57:31 PM
haha i coudnt care less of what people think of my typing   :cheers:. and evertonjoe id love him here mate it wont happen

Believe me it's not the typing that annoys folks. I'm pretty sure it's the sentiments being expressed, but whatever I still think N'Zogbia could come here just that it's extremely unlikely.

Looks like we may well be starting the season with Osman or Arteta on the left.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: plumber on July 09, 2011, 12:00:55 AM
Keep going, lads. Just 8 more pages and this thread will surpass the Naughton's thread.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 09, 2011, 12:39:26 AM
Keep going, lads. Just 8 more pages and this thread will surpass the Naughton's thread.

In quality it already has.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: DunctheFunk on July 09, 2011, 01:02:36 AM
Alot of Sunderland fans are creaming in their pants at the minute cos all the players that have gone on to sign for them have stayed in this one hotel. Fans who work there have stated that Defoe and Nzogbia are staying there at the moment and that means there gonna sign.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 09, 2011, 01:15:56 AM
Alot of Sunderland fans are creaming in their pants at the minute cos all the players that have gone on to sign for them have stayed in this one hotel. Fans who work there have stated that Defoe and Nzogbia are staying there at the moment and that means there gonna sign.


 Do you know what though, it might be quantity but what about quality. Seriously, how many of you lads would be chuffed if, we had got any, out of  Wes Brown, John O'Shea, and/or David Vaughan.

Title: Charles N'Zogbia
Post by: The_Hoff on July 09, 2011, 01:37:40 AM
Charles N'Zogbia Will be signing over or after the weekend folks....On good authority :-) :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Title: Re: Charles N'Zogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 09, 2011, 01:38:10 AM
<takes shelter>
Title: Re: Charles N'Zogbia
Post by: CarlosAlberto on July 09, 2011, 01:39:34 AM
Kenwright managed to chide a youth team player into giving Whelan his first born then?
Title: Re: Charles N'Zogbia
Post by: claimabstract on July 09, 2011, 01:42:01 AM
Thank god we have a separate thread for this so that the other N'Zogbia thread does not surpass 50 pages.
Title: Re: Charles N'Zogbia
Post by: Confucius on July 09, 2011, 01:43:41 AM
This really should go in the other thread.

Is there anyway we can ban people if their rumour(stated as fact) does not come true within a week. ban them for 1 week at a time. Not all rumour posters as many say they have heard or a rumour is circulating. But this guy is stating it as fact. He may be right but if he isn't, ban him I say.
Title: Re: Charles N'Zogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 09, 2011, 02:00:56 AM
Gulp
Title: Re: Charles N'Zogbia
Post by: Alanvideo on July 09, 2011, 02:04:10 AM
Charles N'Zogbia Will be signing over or after the weekend folks....On good authority :-) :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
............Yes but signing for WHO ?  :headbang: :wag: :eh: ??? :headbang:
Title: Re: Charles N'Zogbia
Post by: bluedavey on July 09, 2011, 02:14:52 AM
............Yes but signing for WHO ?  :headbang: :wag: :eh: ??? :headbang:

My thoughts exactly
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Running Blue on July 09, 2011, 02:25:47 AM
Charles N'Zogbia Will be signing over or after the weekend folks....On good authority :-) :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

Well, that settles it then.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 09, 2011, 02:44:10 AM


 I've had a quick scan, couldn't find anything. When does (or has he) David Moyes return(ed) from Austria.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: DunctheFunk on July 09, 2011, 03:06:05 AM
Isnt it Kenwright that deals with the transfers? If so there would be no need for Moyes to return
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 09, 2011, 03:07:25 AM
Isnt it Kenwright that deals with the transfers? If so there would be no need for Moyes to return

That would be exactly why there's a need for him to return.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 09, 2011, 03:13:24 AM
Isnt it Kenwright that deals with the transfers? If so there would be no need for Moyes to return

 I was thinking though, (let's just say) you were N'zogbia, and Hoff's good authority is the real deal, wouldn't you actually want to talk with Moyes just to get a handle on what your (possible) new manager has planned, not just for you, but also to convince you it is the right move.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 09, 2011, 03:25:46 AM
Well the first pre-season match is a week today so I can't imagine they have long in Austria left.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: DunctheFunk on July 09, 2011, 03:27:41 AM
I know what your saying but isnt Moyes on record saying that Kenwright is a good wheeler dealer in contract negotiations. Im sure he supposedly sorts all the existing players contracts
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 09, 2011, 03:29:15 AM
Well the first pre-season match is a week today so I can't imagine they have long is Austria left.

 Good detective work, Verm'.

                       :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 09, 2011, 03:35:48 AM
I know what your saying but isnt Moyes on record saying that Kenwright is a good wheeler dealer in contract negotiations. Im sure he supposedly sorts all the existing players contracts

 I remember Notts.Forest buying Trevor Francis (first British million pounder?), and Brian Clough only turned up at the arse-end of the press conference - in tennis gear. First million pound player and Cloughie's faffing around on a tennis court. I reckon he was properly round-the-twist Ole' Big Head.
                                                                                                    :snigger:

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: bluedavey on July 09, 2011, 04:01:02 AM
They fly back from Austria tomorrow.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 09, 2011, 04:03:18 AM
They fly back from Austria tomorrow.

 Cheers, fella' - sorted.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 09, 2011, 05:33:48 AM
Who care, N'Zogbia's shit.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: cantoffee on July 09, 2011, 05:34:46 AM
I'm James Vaughan.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 10, 2011, 05:23:46 AM
 Oh no, not this b'stard thread again - surely though, it has to be seen out to its conclusion.

"We have to sell Charles N'Zogbia because he's on the last year of his contract," explained Whelan. "We can't keep him if a big club comes for him and he does deserve a big club because he's that kind of quality player. We would love to keep him and pay him what he wants to stay with us but it's a very difficult situation. He's such a great player and we are such a small club sometimes we don't go together.".

 http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_7030217,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_7030217,00.html)

 The b'stard thing is - three clubs are mentioned and we're not one of them.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Azz on July 10, 2011, 05:41:57 AM
Oh no, not this b'stard thread again - surely though, it has to be seen out to its conclusion.

"We have to sell Charles N'Zogbia because he's on the last year of his contract," explained Whelan. "We can't keep him if a big club comes for him and he does deserve a big club because he's that kind of quality player. We would love to keep him and pay him what he wants to stay with us but it's a very difficult situation. He's such a great player and we are such a small club sometimes we don't go together.".

 http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_7030217,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_7030217,00.html)

 The b'stard thing is - three clubs are mentioned and we're not one of them.




The media know we couldn't afford him so why link him to us.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 10, 2011, 05:48:40 AM
 
 The media know we couldn't afford him so why link him to us.

 I take your point, Azz.

 Maybe then, as Jim Morrison might say -- this is the end.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Azz on July 10, 2011, 06:01:02 AM
I don't understand why this thread is so big, there's been like 2 articles at the start of June saying we might to looking at him and one of them was with the Mirror.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Confucius on July 10, 2011, 07:48:13 AM
I don't understand why this thread is so big, there's been like 2 articles at the start of June saying we might to looking at him and one of them was with the Mirror.

A retard you must be, to unlock the secret of this thread
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 10, 2011, 04:40:50 PM
Charles N'Zogbia Will be signing over or after the weekend folks....On good authority :-) :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

This is going well   :titanic:
Title: Cringer Fossed
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 10, 2011, 04:51:38 PM
This is going well   :titanic:


There's still time.


(http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/367458/2/istockphoto_367458-keep-your-fingers-crossed.jpg)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: JoeHart on July 10, 2011, 05:39:00 PM
has he signed yet?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 10, 2011, 05:50:32 PM
Who?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: JoeHart on July 10, 2011, 05:54:26 PM
Riquelme
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: plumber on July 10, 2011, 06:09:43 PM
40 pages!

(http://i.pbase.com/v3/64/603464/1/50569008.JoyRemembered.JPG)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: bryan on July 11, 2011, 06:33:11 PM
Can someone summarize what has happened since I stopped reading on page two?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: kunal32 on July 11, 2011, 06:45:07 PM
Supporting this club certainly gives me insomnia, forget signing Nzogbia.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 11, 2011, 07:22:16 PM
There's a piece in todays Daily Post stating he's our top target,whatever that means nowadays,by wait for it Dave Prentis :wanker: So it must be true,I can't do the link somehow anyway it goes on to say we need to wait for the money off the sales of yak /yobo,ha,ha.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: nomorechang on July 11, 2011, 10:01:50 PM
http://www.setanta.com/ie/Articles/2011/07/11/Winger-priced-out-of-move-/gnid-100031/ (http://www.setanta.com/ie/Articles/2011/07/11/Winger-priced-out-of-move-/gnid-100031/)

Wigan want £20m for him  lolol ...Dave Whelan is a touch deluded if he thinks he'll get that for him
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 11, 2011, 10:54:27 PM
http://www.setanta.com/ie/Articles/2011/07/11/Winger-priced-out-of-move-/gnid-100031/ (http://www.setanta.com/ie/Articles/2011/07/11/Winger-priced-out-of-move-/gnid-100031/)

Wigan want £20m for him  lolol ...Dave Whelan is a touch deluded if he thinks he'll get that for him

Perhaps he just wants to keep his best player so slaps an unrealistic valuation on him?

We've done it ourselves enough times.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Tony Clifton on July 11, 2011, 10:58:29 PM
Can someone summarize what has happened since I stopped reading on page two?

Fernandes signed for Besiktas and Les put us all in a sleeper hold.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 11, 2011, 11:19:11 PM
Fernandes signed for Besiktas and Les put us all in a sleeper hold.

 I'm properly grinning here, Tony.

                                         :clap:

 Regarding Whelan's quote;

"I see some players being sold for £20m or £30m and Zoggy's better, we've had bids but they're nowhere near our valuation."

 That for me, goodnight vienna.
                             
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 11, 2011, 11:24:35 PM
Our neighbours have actually fucked up the valuations of good players.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on July 11, 2011, 11:31:30 PM
Our neighbours have actually fucked up the valuations of good players.

Or maybe we just think that because other clubs can pay the going rate.

It's not just Liverpool who have paid what could be percieved as over the odds by other clubs who would like to pay in brass tacks.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 11, 2011, 11:34:04 PM
Our neighbours have actually fucked up the valuations of good players.

 Our neighbours, in relation to ourselves, I despise, and should be shot with a ball of their own shite. They have fucked us for practically 40 years. The list of snidey manaouvres they have succeeded in doing and are still doing, are/is endless.

 To cap it all -- they (their shithouse supporters) haven't the inteligence to fully understand why we have such a despisement of them.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 11, 2011, 11:38:22 PM
I'm properly grinning here, Tony.

                                         :clap:

 Regarding Whelan's quote;

"I see some players being sold for £20m or £30m and Zoggy's better, we've had bids but they're nowhere near our valuation."

 That for me, goodnight vienna.
                             

Thats funny Dave Prentis put Nzogbias valuation at £9 million in this mornings Daily Post,its not like dave to get his facts wrong is it Les
also said Nzogbia would be happy to come here.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 11, 2011, 11:46:34 PM
Thats funny Dave Prentis put Nzogbias valuation at £9 million in this mornings Daily Post,its not like dave to get his facts wrong is it Les
also said Nzogbia would be happy to come here.

 I hear what you're saying, SoS - but if N'Z does leave Wigan, after what their owner has now said, I would think the selling (agreed) price will be closer to £20m than £10m - and quite frankly, for 9 or 10 million, I have thought, we should be in there pitching - 16 to 20 million, and that's us royally f*cked.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 11, 2011, 11:51:28 PM
With a year left on his contract and the fact that he isn't English (so no silly price bump) I can't see him going for more than 12 mil unless there is some sort of bidding war.

My guess is he'll go for between 9 to 12 mil. If they keep hold they know they'll not get near that in the next window with only a matter of months left on his contract.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 11, 2011, 11:52:54 PM
Nzogbia is in the last year of his contract. He is no better than Pienaar in what he offers (although his offerings are different). We may have got £8 million for Pienaar last summer, I really don't think Nzogbia will go for a lot more than that.

In Jan, we could get him for a few million....
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 12, 2011, 12:12:57 AM

 You know because the Geordies are madder than a box of frogs, I won't be at all surprised if he goes back to black & white land.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: marky v on July 12, 2011, 12:20:10 AM
Pienaar went for a couple of million because we had to take that offer we don't take the chance cause we can't afford too no matter what moyes said about holding on to him to see his contract out it was never going to happen, the deal was offered an he rejected it so it was always sell first sensible offer,
wigan have a benefactor who puts his money in for them,

Nzogbia will go for around £10m now but even in january I could see them demanding £5m an someone will offer it we have a desperate for money image they don't regardless of our size and league positions compared to theirs,
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 12, 2011, 01:52:30 AM
I would think the selling (agreed) price will be closer to £20m than £10m

He's entering the last year of his contract.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 12, 2011, 02:38:21 AM
He's entering the last year of his contract.

 I realised that, fella, when I read bluetoff & blargins posts. Because I never expanded my post fully...my line of - I would think the selling (agreed) price will be closer to £20m than £10m - was meant to read, this transfer window.

 Along with many others - I'm now getting pissed off with this thread -- we may as well be discussing - is there really any other intelligent life, somewhere else in the cosmos. The discussion has become futile.




Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 12, 2011, 02:40:20 AM
Resistance is futile.


/geek
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 12, 2011, 02:41:37 AM

 /geek

 Is that directed at me?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 12, 2011, 02:44:26 AM
No, myself.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 12, 2011, 02:45:23 AM
No, myself.

 Sorry, my mistake.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 12, 2011, 02:49:48 AM
It's a Star-Trek quote, I thought it apt what with the reference to aliens. I knew not many would catch on, hence the signature.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 12, 2011, 02:52:32 AM
It's a Star-Trek quote, I thought it apt what with the reference to aliens. I knew not many would catch on, hence the signature.

 Do you know what, fella' - I'm not a Star-Trek fan -- and I thought, I'm sure that's one of Spock's lines. Which, I agree, is very apt.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 12, 2011, 03:00:06 AM
I realised that, fella, when I read bluetoff & blargins posts. Because I never expanded my post fully...my line of - I would think the selling (agreed) price will be closer to £20m than £10m - was meant to read, this transfer window.

 Along with many others - I'm now getting pissed off with this thread as well b-- we may e discussing - is there really any other intelligent life, somewhere else in the cosmos. The discussion has become futile.




Brilliant pmsl +1 Les
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 12, 2011, 05:47:31 AM
Whats the latest?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 12, 2011, 05:52:01 AM
Whats the latest?

He still isn't coming...
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Tony Clifton on July 12, 2011, 05:58:28 AM
Whats the latest?

William Shatner is still as mad as a bag of cheese.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 12, 2011, 06:21:20 AM
Whats the latest?

He signed an hour ago.
Title: Downing to RS
Post by: Tasslehoff on July 14, 2011, 06:04:45 AM
Insomnia to Villa, nailed on.  :headbang:
Title: Re: Downing to RS
Post by: Confucius on July 14, 2011, 06:07:26 AM
Imbecile, do you see the top of this page. it says Everton Forum. It's not there jsut to look pretty(which it does) it also serves a purpose to tell idiots like you that his is the Everton Forum. See other football related chat in another forum and the thread that already exists

http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,12886.0.html (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,12886.0.html)
Title: Re: Downing to RS
Post by: M.Fellaini 25_Iggzy_1878_ on July 14, 2011, 06:08:31 AM
Nothing to do with Everton!
Title: Re: Downing to RS
Post by: Tasslehoff on July 14, 2011, 06:13:48 AM
News about arguably our main transfer target, in the transfer window, not Everton related. whatever...

move or merge mods
Title: Re: Downing to RS
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 14, 2011, 06:14:39 AM
Mega mods, assemble!!
Title: Re: Downing to RS
Post by: Ridge on July 14, 2011, 06:15:07 AM
I believe this should be filed in the never ending N'Zogbia thread of joy.
Title: Re: Downing to RS
Post by: Shogun on July 14, 2011, 06:15:54 AM
Mega mods, assemble!!
it'll be gash who moves it, he seems the only one who does that kind of thing, and si on occasion , bally even less so, thoms just the cool mod who doesn't upset people
Title: Re: Downing to RS
Post by: EFC2302 on July 14, 2011, 06:55:14 AM
it'll be gash who moves it, he seems the only one who does that kind of thing, and si on occasion , bally even less so, thoms just the cool mod who doesn't upset people

Optimus Si!
Title: Re: Downing to RS
Post by: JoeHart on July 14, 2011, 07:29:32 AM
Nothing to do with Everton!

this

and why would you waste your time talking about liverpool?
Title: Re: Downing to RS
Post by: TheRam on July 14, 2011, 07:30:48 AM
this

and why would you waste your time talking about liverpool?


Why do you waste your time talking about Everton.
Title: Re: Downing to RS
Post by: JoeHart on July 14, 2011, 07:32:49 AM
good point
Title: Re: Downing to RS
Post by: Robioto on July 14, 2011, 09:52:58 AM
News about arguably our main transfer target, in the transfer window, not Everton related. whatever...

move or merge mods

I didn't even know we'd been linked let alone saying he was a 'main transfer target'. Even so surely you realised we wouldn't have a chance in hell when the figures of £15m and £19m were flying around?
Title: Re: Downing to RS
Post by: christiffa25 on July 14, 2011, 12:06:13 PM
Robioto.... My god give your head a shake!!

Well that's 46.5M spent since end of season for them wankers, wouldn't mind just the 6.5M available for us to invest!!

Must say I'm pretty sure moyes would of spent 46M alot better than what they have ended up with!
(we can but dream)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: christiffa25 on July 14, 2011, 12:18:25 PM
Newcastle have made 4M bid for him - sky sports news
Title: Re: Downing to RS
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 14, 2011, 12:21:28 PM
I didn't even know we'd been linked let alone saying he was a 'main transfer target'. Even so surely you realised we wouldn't have a chance in hell when the figures of £15m and £19m were flying around?

This. Think his ridiculous price (20 million by some accounts) ruled us out long ago. Some like Staveros were championing a swoop for him when he was available for about 10 million from poor Middlesborough. But even that seemed a bit much.

Decent player who offers nothing special. Glad to see the Shite spending too much for him.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 14, 2011, 12:23:26 PM
He'd better sign elsewhere soon or the Kyle Naughton thread record is in trouble.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: plumber on July 14, 2011, 03:30:03 PM
Good morning, lads.
I don't know what to post here, just wanted too keep the thread alive.
Have a good day everybody.
Title: What a pleasant interchange
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 14, 2011, 03:41:26 PM
Thanks you too, buddy!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Sprooly on July 14, 2011, 04:23:49 PM
Newcastle have made 4M bid for him - sky sports news

4 million really?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: JoeHart on July 14, 2011, 07:15:36 PM
why would he go back to the goldfish bowl?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 14, 2011, 07:22:42 PM
why would he go back to the goldfish bowl?


Goldfish have poor memory.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: JoeHart on July 14, 2011, 07:25:51 PM
that made me laugh - fair play.

but in all seriousness, never go back?
as small and as unambitious wigan are, newcastle arent going anywhere for a good few years and are another one of the lower premiership collective who are happy to survive.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 14, 2011, 07:42:24 PM
I think Newcastle have more ambition than us sometimes.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 14, 2011, 07:44:42 PM
I think Newcastle have more ambition than us sometimes.

I think Newcastle have more money than us sometimes
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 14, 2011, 07:46:42 PM
that made me laugh - fair play.

but in all seriousness, never go back?
as small and as unambitious wigan are, newcastle arent going anywhere for a good few years and are another one of the lower premiership collective who are happy to survive.

 I suggested, don't discount the crazy idea that Newcastle might 'come-in' for him because (when N'Z's head was battered, when he was last there):

 Joe Kinnear angered N'Zogbia by mispronouncing his name as "insomnia". N'Zogbia then issued a statement which, while apologising to the fans, announced he would not play for the club while Kinnear was manager.

 So, as BNP hilariously has said (no offence meant, Joe), using my detective skills - Kinnear (obviously) is not Newcastle's manager any more - leaving an 'about-turn' open, whilst still saving face (regarding his leaving in the first place).
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: cantoffee on July 14, 2011, 07:57:35 PM
I think Newcastle have more money than us sometimes

I don't. Still haven't spent the Carroll money or anything they got for Nolan.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on July 14, 2011, 08:00:37 PM
I think Newcastle have more ambition than us sometimes.

Stalybridge Celtic have more ambition than us at the minute.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 14, 2011, 08:06:33 PM
Stalybridge Celtic have more ambition than us at the minute.

                                                       :clap:

 
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 14, 2011, 08:42:23 PM
Having no money is very, very different to having no ambition.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 14, 2011, 08:56:47 PM
Having no money is very, very different to having no ambition.

Having no money and doing nothing about it isn't though.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 14, 2011, 09:00:33 PM
Stalybridge Celtic have more ambition than us at the minute.

Just because they have more money than us doesn't mean they have more amibition.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 14, 2011, 09:09:36 PM
Having no money and doing nothing about it isn't though.

Not wanting to sell the club is not a lack of ambition, no matter how we dislike it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 14, 2011, 09:19:25 PM
Not wanting to sell the club is not a lack of ambition, no matter how we dislike it.

Of course it is. Not on a personal level of course, Kenwright is very ambitious to try to control a club he cannot afford.

Unfortunately this means that the club itself can only target survival as its main amibition.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on July 14, 2011, 09:33:09 PM
On his way to Villa.

Cheers Bill.

Close thread (at last!)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 14, 2011, 09:34:18 PM
Of course it is. Not on a personal level of course, Kenwright is very ambitious to try to control a club he cannot afford.

Unfortunately this means that the club itself can only target survival as its main amibition.

Doing OK then.

Sorry, but I don't agree that the club show a lack of ambition by having no money.

selling the club to any old rich geezer isn't a sign of ambition either.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 14, 2011, 09:35:10 PM
On his way to Villa.

Cheers Bill.

Close thread (at last!)

You actually do mention Kenwright in every single one of your post.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 14, 2011, 09:37:42 PM
On his way to Villa.

Cheers Bill.

Close thread (at last!)

Link?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on July 14, 2011, 09:38:25 PM
You actually do mention Kenwright in every single one of your post.

When it involves him i do, yes.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Krissy on July 14, 2011, 09:40:33 PM
He hasn't gone to Villa yet. Anyway, i'd rather have Nasri, far better player...
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 14, 2011, 09:41:56 PM
When it involves him i do, yes.

You're a fucking goat.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 14, 2011, 09:43:25 PM
Sorry, but I don't agree that the club show a lack of ambition by having no money.

That's good because I haven't said such a thing.

Nevertheless, the club is seriously lacking ambition, or to be precise the board and the management is.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 14, 2011, 09:43:44 PM
Having no money is very, very different to having no ambition.

 My applause to Jonny's post was a kind of 'hear- hear' shout that you hear in the house of commons. I took the post as a somewhat tongue-in-cheek shout.



 Added to this, I'm thinking -- why is it we always seem to struggle to get rid of undesirables that David Moyes has decided he no longer wants.

 Yakubu & Yobo go out on loan, then, because the deal(s), for whatever reason, become(s) a dead-duck, no-one else (it seems) in world football wants to entertain them.

 I'm not jealous, but just as an example - the other shower, in the past 18 months have bought a herd of donkey's and they seem to have no trouble whatsoever in offloading them to some other sucker.

                                                                                                          shakeyheadman
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on July 14, 2011, 09:44:44 PM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/07/14/charles-n-zogbia-set-to-sign-for-aston-villa-72703-29054386/ (http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/07/14/charles-n-zogbia-set-to-sign-for-aston-villa-72703-29054386/)

"full story to follow" - its only breaking news now.

Looking at the comments, the geordies are furious. Why would he even want to go back there, muppets.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 14, 2011, 09:44:47 PM
He hasn't gone to Villa yet. Anyway, i'd rather have Nasri, far better player...

I'd rather have Fabergas. But ...
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on July 14, 2011, 09:46:17 PM
You're a fucking goat.

Cool.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 14, 2011, 09:46:49 PM
Cool.

It really isn't.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 14, 2011, 09:47:53 PM
You actually do mention Kenwright in every single one of your post.

And you try to slag on Jonny in every thread possible, even after looking like a complete arse doing it in the Irvine thread the other day.

We get it--you don't rate Jonny as a poster. It's about time you got how much worse a poster you look like by taking up space shit talking him every chance you get?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 14, 2011, 09:50:24 PM
That's good because I haven't said such a thing.

In essence, you have.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 14, 2011, 09:51:11 PM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/07/14/charles-n-zogbia-set-to-sign-for-aston-villa-72703-29054386/ (http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/07/14/charles-n-zogbia-set-to-sign-for-aston-villa-72703-29054386/)

"full story to follow" - its only breaking news now.

Concrete.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 14, 2011, 09:53:09 PM
And you try to slag on Jonny in every thread possible

Because he's a caravan dwelling amoeba.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Azz on July 14, 2011, 09:53:30 PM
This has literally come down to the fact that we haven't been able to offload Yak and Yobo in time. Oh well sure it'll still be a good season with the same squad of players.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 14, 2011, 09:56:56 PM
In essence, you have.

Well, duh.

In essence, you're a massive cock then. :)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on July 14, 2011, 09:57:15 PM
Because he's a caravan dwelling amoeba.

And im still better than you.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 14, 2011, 09:57:44 PM
How long was the Naughton thread again?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 14, 2011, 10:00:31 PM
How long was the Naughton thread again?

Somewhere between 50-55 pages, wasn't it? Getting closer...
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 14, 2011, 10:01:35 PM
Well, duh.

In essence, you're a massive cock then. :)

Have you seen my cool/tool?  :smug:
Title: Fixed
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 14, 2011, 10:02:05 PM

We get it--you don't rate Kenwright as a chairman. It's about time you got how much worse a poster you look like by taking up space shit talking him every chance you get?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Shogun on July 14, 2011, 10:02:07 PM
what an article that was to read!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 14, 2011, 10:06:22 PM
And im still better than you.

Of course you are.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 14, 2011, 10:11:53 PM
a little part of me is gutted even tho i knew we wouldnt sign nzgobia. :'(
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 14, 2011, 10:13:16 PM
Yes, but at least we can move on now to discussing other players we won't sign.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 14, 2011, 10:14:42 PM
haha i know mate more pages for players  were not going to sign :headbang:
Title: Here's a light bulb
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 14, 2011, 10:14:59 PM
Yes, but at least we can move on now to discussing other players we won't sign.

all you do is moan!! lighten the fuck up!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 14, 2011, 10:16:26 PM
Somewhere between 50-55 pages, wasn't it? Getting closer...

We have to hurry up, we should get there before he signs for Villa.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Shogun on July 14, 2011, 10:16:59 PM
so any actual confirmation he's signed for villa?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 14, 2011, 10:19:22 PM
so any actual confirmation he's signed for villa?

Nope but McCleish wanted him at Brum and Villa have just lost their 2 first choice wingers.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 14, 2011, 10:19:56 PM
46 pages on a player we were never even strongly linked to, never mind bid for etc..

This place really is grim over the summer :P
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Shogun on July 14, 2011, 10:20:15 PM
Nope but McCleish wanted him at Brum and Villa have just lost their 2 first choice wingers.
and n'zogbia wants to go to villa? and there are no other wingers anywhere?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 14, 2011, 10:22:00 PM
and n'zogbia wants to go to villa? and there are no other wingers anywhere?

Stronger case for him going there than to us on those grounds alone..
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 14, 2011, 10:22:48 PM
villa have money = nzgobia will go to villa (i think)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on July 14, 2011, 10:23:14 PM
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/ticker/hub/football/index.html?item=2871203 (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/ticker/hub/football/index.html?item=2871203)

Some geordie reckons hes on his way to vila park for a medical.

£20 mill for downing, pay £10 N'Zogbia. Thats great business.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 14, 2011, 10:25:26 PM
46 pages on a player we were never even strongly linked to, never mind bid for etc..

This place really is grim over the summer :P

The question is, how many more pages can we go now that it looks like he's been signed by someone else.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Shogun on July 14, 2011, 10:25:59 PM
i'll wait for confirmation.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 14, 2011, 10:26:05 PM
maybe we can also bid for players one day :woohoo: ( when we have wonga) but we probably wont have moyes.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 14, 2011, 10:28:10 PM
maybe we can also bid for players one day :woohoo: ( when we have wonga) but we probably wont have moyes.

The relevance being.....
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on July 14, 2011, 10:28:24 PM
We are going to have to buy Obertan now.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 14, 2011, 10:30:59 PM
The relevance being.....
we have money...... ::)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 14, 2011, 10:31:58 PM
We are going to have to buy Obertan now.

 lolol lolol
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on July 14, 2011, 10:32:17 PM
Alan Pardew "I am told that Charles [N'Zogbia] has got an imminent move, so I don't think that will be us."


Good enough for me.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 14, 2011, 10:32:23 PM
Genocide would be a great solution to this place.

Has anyone got Slobodan Milošević's number? Oh, wait...
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 14, 2011, 10:34:26 PM
 We, as Evertonians, inheritably know a decent attacking player when we see one, the fee, it seems, isn't huge - that for me is why this thread has become a daily addiction to view and/or to contribute to.

 Addition.

 Oh yeah, if it is around £10m he is bought for, what happened to Whelan's shitty-arsed quote that N'Z is worth closer to a £20m valuation.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Danny on July 14, 2011, 10:38:40 PM
I bet it's us who've signed him, definately will be.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 14, 2011, 10:40:03 PM
I bet it's us who've signed him, definately will be.
are you paying his transfer fee and wages danny? :woohoo:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 14, 2011, 10:40:04 PM
He might move to Arsenal to replace Fabregas who's retiring because he realised how shit he was.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 14, 2011, 10:43:17 PM
He might move to Arsenal to replace Fabregas who's retiring because he realised how shit he was.

He is proper shite like.  No stewart downing
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Tinga on July 14, 2011, 10:43:48 PM
This would make up for a lot.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on July 14, 2011, 10:56:38 PM
He might move to Arsenal to replace Fabregas who's retiring because he realised how shit he was.
Excuse me sir, can I see your fishing license?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Danny on July 14, 2011, 11:00:57 PM
are you paying his transfer fee and wages danny? :woohoo:

I was planning on it but just checked my wallet and I don't  have enough, shame really.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 14, 2011, 11:03:48 PM
And you try to slag on Jonny in every thread possible, even after looking like a complete arse doing it in the Irvine thread the other day.

We get it--you don't rate Jonny as a poster. It's about time you got how much worse a poster you look like by taking up space shit talking him every chance you get?

-1 for sticking up for a bellend
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 14, 2011, 11:06:42 PM
-1 for sticking up for a bellend

-1 for -1ing someone just because they took pity.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 14, 2011, 11:08:11 PM
-1 for -1ing someone just because they took pity.

You just took me to 100  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 14, 2011, 11:11:57 PM
As much tedium as pity. Ram and BNP's anti-Jonny campaign has gotten far duller than the anti-Kenwright campaign they attack Jonny over every chance they get. 
Title: Prick
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 14, 2011, 11:14:46 PM
As much tedium as pity. Ram and BNP's anti-Jonny campaign has gotten far duller than the anti-Kenwright campaign they attack Jonny over every chance they get. 


Oh god its far from the levels you go to!!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 14, 2011, 11:16:26 PM
As much tedium as pity. Ram and BNP's anti-Jonny campaign has gotten far duller than the anti-Kenwright campaign they attack Jonny over every chance they get. 

Duller than your post?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on July 14, 2011, 11:17:33 PM
-1 for -1ing someone just because they took pity.
-1 for -1ing someone, just for -1ing someone.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: plumber on July 14, 2011, 11:18:31 PM
-1 for sticking up for a bellend
You got +1 from me for slagging the twat. It's a useful community work.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 14, 2011, 11:19:42 PM
-1 for -1ing someone, just for -1ing someone.

A +1 to you for that. And for taking this thread that much closer to the 50-page mark.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on July 14, 2011, 11:24:02 PM
As much tedium as pity. Ram and BNP's anti-Jonny campaign has gotten far duller than the anti-Kenwright campaign they attack Jonny over every chance they get. 

Wouldnt worry about a few silly kids acting tough behind a computer screen mate  lolol

Whatever floats their boats. They'll be cracking one off at each other on MSN later, when im out boozing with my mates.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 14, 2011, 11:24:26 PM
Excuse me sir, can I see your fishing license?

Surely you mean a fish licence. For my pet fish, Eric.
Title: "mates"
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 14, 2011, 11:25:45 PM
Wouldnt worry about a few silly kids acting tough behind a computer screen mate  lolol

Whatever floats their boats. They'll be cracking one off at each other on MSN later, when im out boozing with my mates.


(http://kidscraftsonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/sock-puppets-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blue slug on July 14, 2011, 11:26:58 PM
So are we signing Nzogbia or something?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Shogun on July 14, 2011, 11:27:39 PM
Wouldnt worry about a few silly kids acting tough behind a computer screen mate  lolol

Whatever floats their boats. They'll be cracking one off at each other on MSN later, when im out boozing with my mates.
haaahah nobody uses msn anymore :'), getting drunk on a school night? YOU'RE SO COOL
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 14, 2011, 11:28:49 PM
So are we signing Nzogbia or something?

Yes, it's imminent.  Any day now.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 14, 2011, 11:29:47 PM
Wouldnt worry about a few silly kids acting tough behind a computer screen mate  lolol

Whatever floats their boats. They'll be cracking one off at each other on MSN later, when im out boozing with my mates.

I almost believed your story until I got to the point you claimed you had mates.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 14, 2011, 11:29:57 PM
haaahah nobody uses msn anymore :'), getting drunk on a school night? YOU'RE SO COOL

I use the royal mail.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 14, 2011, 11:31:36 PM
I almost believed your story until I got to the point you claimed you had mates.

The rest is true tho.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 14, 2011, 11:34:40 PM
So are we signing Nzogbia or something?

Not for another 15 pages or so.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on July 14, 2011, 11:35:04 PM
I almost believed your story until I got to the point you claimed you had mates.

Wow.. 10/10 for originality there, son.

I wish i was you.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 14, 2011, 11:36:52 PM
Wow.. 10/10 for originality there, son.

I wish i was you.

How old are you, cos some of your shouts are like something from the 10 year olds handbook in comebacks.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 14, 2011, 11:38:01 PM
I wish i was you.

Don't you just.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on July 14, 2011, 11:47:23 PM
How old are you, cos some of your shouts are like something from the 10 year olds handbook in comebacks.

Do you mean comebacks like "i believed you until you said you mates"??

Comebacks..  lolol

The fact you even think this is some kind of slanging match speaks volumes about your mentality. This is an Everton forum for discussing all things Everton, if you dont agree with mine, or other peoples opinions then fair enough, its a forum where people get to speak their minds. You and your tedious,inane and boring attempts at "insulting" me (including references made by your girlfriend,Jamo, about my nationality) are quite frankly laughable, your showing youself up as a complete and utter bellend to be honest.

Take your pathetic attempts at annoying me (or anyone else) and run along elsewhere.
Title: Baba cakes
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 14, 2011, 11:52:19 PM
Do you mean comebacks like "i believed you until you said you mates"??

Comebacks..  lolol

The fact you even think this is some kind of slanging match speaks volumes about your mentality. This is an Everton forum for discussing all things Everton, if you dont agree with mine, or other peoples opinions then fair enough, its a forum where people get to speak their minds. You and your tedious,inane and boring attempts at "insulting" me (including references made by your girlfriend,Jamo, about my nationality) are quite frankly laughable, your showing youself up as a complete and utter bellend to be honest.

Take your pathetic attempts at annoying me (or anyone else) and run along elsewhere.

did not read

for somebody who doesn't care you seem you have gone on a bit of a rant! want a tissue, baba?
Title: Re: Baba cakes
Post by: Jonny on July 14, 2011, 11:54:37 PM
did not read

for somebody who doesn't care you seem you have gone on a bit of a rant! want a tissue, baba?

You did read it.

Nah, im sound, Cheers anyway sweetheart.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 14, 2011, 11:55:48 PM
(http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/14/15253000/ngbbs47952f6b73133.jpg)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 15, 2011, 12:06:48 AM
So okay were not signing Nzog,( I was only joking he.s shite anyway ) .....so who's our next victim ?
Title: Chosen at random
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 15, 2011, 12:09:54 AM
So okay were not signing Nzog,( I was only joking he.s shite anyway ) .....so who's our next victim ?

I vote Jack Collison from West Ham. Lets see if we can get sky sports to report it.
Title: Re: Obertan
Post by: Ridge on July 15, 2011, 12:12:06 AM
So okay were not signing Nzog,( I was only joking he.s shite anyway ) .....so who's our next victim ?
I would prefer if you didn't enquire about Obertan as a victim.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 15, 2011, 12:12:22 AM
If we are going for players we are never going to sign I will go for someone shit.  Emile Heskey will be our next signing.  The thinking man's Anichebe :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Confucius on July 15, 2011, 12:12:33 AM
If only we were looking for whingers, we would have some world class proponents in this thread.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 15, 2011, 12:20:06 AM
If only we were looking for whingers, we would have some world class proponents in this thread.

Thought we were looking for wingers,dear ?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 15, 2011, 12:30:01 AM
Do you mean comebacks like "i believed you until you said you mates"??

Comebacks..  lolol

The fact you even think this is some kind of slanging match speaks volumes about your mentality. This is an Everton forum for discussing all things Everton, if you dont agree with mine, or other peoples opinions then fair enough, its a forum where people get to speak their minds. You and your tedious,inane and boring attempts at "insulting" me (including references made by your girlfriend,Jamo, about my nationality) are quite frankly laughable, your showing youself up as a complete and utter bellend to be honest.

Take your pathetic attempts at annoying me (or anyone else) and run along elsewhere.

I seem to be doing a good job at annoying you going by this post.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 15, 2011, 12:32:30 AM
As much tedium as pity. Ram and BNP's anti-Jonny campaign has gotten far duller than the anti-Kenwright campaign they attack Jonny over every chance they get. 

It really hasn't, not by a long way.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 15, 2011, 12:36:51 AM
Thought we were looking for wingers,dear ?

Think about it........................ think about it.................
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 15, 2011, 12:44:50 AM
Do you mean comebacks like "i believed you until you said you mates"??

Comebacks..  lolol

If I had a pound for every time someone failed to spot the sarcasm in my posts, I'd be richer by about £57.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 15, 2011, 12:47:29 AM
I vote Jack Collison from West Ham. Lets see if we can get sky sports to report it.

That reminds me of the time when I threw Lorik Cana's name in the hat at random. I was chuffed when it resurfaced even a year later, then Sunderland signed him. :)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: AidyEFC9 on July 15, 2011, 03:22:47 AM
Just seen this on twitter - philmcnultyPhil McNulty - If, as expected, Villa use Downing cash to fund N'Zogbia it will be major frustration for Everton boss Moyes, who is also an admirer.

Lets just say he's going to be very disappointed then aye!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on July 15, 2011, 07:18:17 AM
<this is not a Bill Kenwright post>
Title: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-COn-I7pcE
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 15, 2011, 12:08:30 PM
<this is not a Bill Kenwright post>

Thought you were out on the lash with your mates??? You're so cool making sure you come on here though!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Trowel on July 15, 2011, 01:56:08 PM
Villa have made a £10m bid for N'zogbia.

You can apologise to Saha's brother here: https://twitter.com/#!/sahaoliv08
Title: Villa bid £10m for N'Zogbia
Post by: cambridge.blue on July 15, 2011, 02:29:02 PM
Expect a counter offer from us of £2.m and then a statement saying "we did make a bid for him"  :snigger:
Title: Re: Villa bid £10m for N'Zogbia
Post by: Derek on July 15, 2011, 02:30:57 PM
Consider whatever long shot we ever had of bringing him here pretty much dismissed, then.

Wigan usually get decent prices too, and I imagine they'll hold out for a bit extra considering everybody knows how much Villa have made in the past few weeks.
Title: Re: Villa bid £10m for N'Zogbia
Post by: everton.chris on July 15, 2011, 02:35:13 PM
Consider whatever long shot we ever had of bringing him here pretty much dismissed, then.

Wigan usually get decent prices too, and I imagine they'll hold out for a bit extra considering everybody knows how much Villa have made in the past few weeks.
I'm guessing Wigan would not take Yakubu, Bily, Hibbert and Osman in a straight swap for him  :hail:
Title: Re: Villa bid £10m for N'Zogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 15, 2011, 02:37:23 PM
like a broken record this! were not signing ANY players we have no fuckin money jesus christ :headbang:
Title: Re: Villa bid £10m for N'Zogbia
Post by: everton.chris on July 15, 2011, 02:40:26 PM
like a broken record this! were not signing ANY players we have no fuckin money jesus christ :headbang:
I'm guessing Wigan would not take Yakubu, Bily, Hibbert and Osman in a straight swap for him   :hail:
Title: Re: Villa bid £10m for N'Zogbia
Post by: .Rimbo. on July 15, 2011, 02:59:57 PM
Game set match.
Title: Re: Villa bid £10m for N'Zogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 15, 2011, 03:22:51 PM
Way to throw a wet towel over the 50+-page N'Zogbia thread just as its threatening to overtake the Kyle Naughton thread.
Title: Re: Villa bid £10m for N'Zogbia
Post by: plumber on July 15, 2011, 03:31:51 PM
I can't understand why there are only two N'Zogbia threads  :eh:
Title: Re: Villa bid £10m for N'Zogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 15, 2011, 03:35:59 PM
Way to throw a wet towel over the 50+-page N'Zogbia thread just as its threatening to overtake the Kyle Naughton thread.

I wont hold it against him ;D If this is Moyses top target,anyone think we will match it,they may take instalments  :whistle:
Title: Re: Villa bid £10m for N'Zogbia
Post by: Big Nev on July 15, 2011, 03:38:48 PM

Wigan usually get decent prices too, and I imagine they'll hold out for a bit extra 

That's because they are run by a business man and not an actor!!
Title: Re: Villa bid £10m for N'Zogbia
Post by: Gash on July 15, 2011, 03:41:36 PM
Expect a counter offer from us of £2.m and then a statement saying "we did make a bid for him"  :snigger:

50 pages on N'Zogbia and you start another thread.  :clap:
Title: Re: Villa bid £10m for N'Zogbia
Post by: everton-4-ever on July 15, 2011, 03:41:39 PM
sooner he signs for them the better

it will the underline the fact we are not going to sign anyone
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Azz on July 15, 2011, 03:45:33 PM
I wonder how this place / Everton forums look when other fans look at them.  Wonder if we get laughed at by Sunderland or Bolton fans when they see a 51 page about N'Zogbia and literally no one else!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: everton.chris on July 15, 2011, 03:59:26 PM
I wonder how this place / Everton forums look when other fans look at them.  Wonder if we get laughed at by Sunderland or Bolton fans when they see a 51 page about N'Zogbia and literally no one else!
It will be the same way most clubs look at our transfers 51 pages of links to players and no signings
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: dekko on July 15, 2011, 04:00:46 PM
like a broken record this! were not signing ANY players we have no fuckin money jesus christ :headbang:

People are complaining about the lack of signings, but look around, I think its tough for everyone. I do not see a team that really has improved with transfers this summer.
I am quite happy to see Liverpool's signings, Downing, Adam, Henderson, to me, just above average players
Man U, bought Ashley Young, De Gea, Phil Jones, but losing Van der Sar, a big loss.
Chelsea has not bought anyone worth a mention
Tottenham added Friedel, they are also desperate to sell a bunch of players so they can buy some
Arsenal just bought Gervinho, but might lose Nasri and Cesc, lost Clichy
Sunderland added a hundred average players, makes them a very deep average squad but not really added quality.
Man City added Clichy and just one more player

And as for us, I think we have some quality players, we do need to add a few more quality players like a striker and winger, but if we don't lose anyone (except Yobo and Yakubu) and get Fellaini to sign extension, I think its ok. I'm sure Moyes will pull out something by end of the window.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Blueney-tunes on July 15, 2011, 04:14:30 PM
I wonder how this place / Everton forums look when other fans look at them.  Wonder if we get laughed at by Sunderland or Bolton fans when they see a 51 page about N'Zogbia and literally no one else!

Its because any new info etc has to go into the special Nzogbia thread.

Anyone whod quit reading the bullshit from page 23 would be avoiding this page and missing
out on new information. All because the mods need to keep everything associated assigned to the special Nzogbia thread.

Probably best to have a stand alone thread for all things in the world of Everton and then we can update each one freely.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 15, 2011, 04:25:13 PM
I wonder how this place / Everton forums look when other fans look at them.  Wonder if we get laughed at by Sunderland or Bolton fans when they see a 51 page about N'Zogbia and literally no one else!

If they only look at the title, then probably. But if they read some of the posts as well, they'll realise most of us haven't been taking it entirely seriously.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Grand Master C on July 15, 2011, 04:59:24 PM
If they only look at the title, then probably. But if they read some of the posts as well, they'll realise most of us haven't been taking it entirely seriously.

I would worry about the mental health of a Sunderland fan who went to the effort of looking up an Everton fan forum and then reading a 50 page thread about a player that was unlikely to be signed by them....

... That being said, I have done more pointless shit when bored at work  :whistle:
Title: Re: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-COn-I7pcE
Post by: Jonny on July 15, 2011, 05:50:44 PM
Thought you were out on the lash with your mates??? You're so cool making sure you come on here though!

I was lad, thanks for asking.

Has he signed yet?
Title: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0217630/
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 15, 2011, 06:03:59 PM
I was lad, thanks for asking.

Has he signed yet?

Did you rush home to post on NSNO?! What did all the girls you brought back do whilst you were on here?!?!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 15, 2011, 06:07:10 PM
Wouldnt worry about a few silly kids acting tough behind a computer screen mate  lolol

Whatever floats their boats. They'll be cracking one off at each other on MSN later, when im out boozing with my mates.

Classic 'got no mates' post.
Title: Re: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0217630/
Post by: Jonny on July 15, 2011, 06:10:07 PM
Did you rush home to post on NSNO?! What did all the girls you brought back do whilst you were on here?!?!

Not quite, no.

I doubt my girlfriend would have been happy bringing girls home like  :eh:

Oh well.
Title: Looks ok
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 15, 2011, 06:11:07 PM
Not quite, no.

I doubt my girlfriend would have been happy bringing girls home like  :eh:

Oh well.


here's a pic of your misses:
(http://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/1006/hand_pic.JPG)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 15, 2011, 06:12:05 PM
Not quite, no.

I doubt my girlfriend would have been happy bringing girls home like  :eh:

Oh well.

Don't believe
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 15, 2011, 06:24:36 PM
Not quite, no.

I doubt my girlfriend would have been happy bringing girls home like  :eh:

Oh well.

It's often better to let her bring them home. That way, she can't fuss about your choices.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 15, 2011, 06:26:45 PM
I wont hold it against him ;D If this is Moyses top target,anyone think we will match it,they may take instalments  :whistle:

No, Kyle Naughton is our top target. It just hasn't come out yet. But once it does, watch out.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on July 15, 2011, 06:29:43 PM
<yawn>
Title: Walked into it
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 15, 2011, 06:31:21 PM
<yawn>

tired from all the partying you did last night?!
Title: Re: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0217630/
Post by: plumber on July 15, 2011, 06:35:32 PM
Not quite, no.

I doubt my girlfriend would have been happy bringing girls home like  :eh:

Oh well.

Please, stop embarrassing yourself. Your imaginary mates were pitiful enough. And now that "girlfriend"...
It's so sad.
Title: Re: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0217630/
Post by: Jonny on July 15, 2011, 06:41:44 PM
Please, stop embarrassing yourself. Your imaginary mates were pitiful enough. And now that "girlfriend"...
It's so sad.

Grow the fuck up, you absolute whopper.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 15, 2011, 06:45:05 PM
Still drunk.
Title: I lol'd
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 15, 2011, 06:53:13 PM
Still drunk.

hahaha actually laughed
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Dublin Toffee on July 15, 2011, 07:04:55 PM
SSN confirm Villa bid. That's that then
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on July 15, 2011, 07:07:47 PM
Definately the most pointless thread ever!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 15, 2011, 07:09:33 PM
We don't even know for sure that Moyes definitely wanted him, just Paper talk.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 15, 2011, 07:33:46 PM
We don't even know for sure that Moyes definitely wanted him, just Paper talk.

And not much paper talk at that lolol
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 15, 2011, 07:36:47 PM
I can't believe the mass hysteria surrounding this chap. I stand by my original statement that hes not as good as we make out. I think our desperation to sign anyone has blurred opinions somewhat.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 15, 2011, 07:46:21 PM
I can't believe the mass hysteria surrounding this chap. I stand by my original statement that hes not as good as we make out. I think our desperation to sign anyone has blurred opinions somewhat.

Do you believe talking sense on the 53rd page is going to change anything? You're a natural born optimist. :)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 15, 2011, 07:59:38 PM
I heart this thread.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Trowel on July 15, 2011, 08:21:22 PM
So in summary, Saha's brother was right all along?
Title: Def not
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 15, 2011, 08:22:50 PM
So in summary, Saha's brother was right all along?

No.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: dunleerblue on July 15, 2011, 08:29:27 PM
i love this thread, it gets better and better :badum:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 15, 2011, 08:54:47 PM
I have been reading A Dance With Dragons today.  It's boss.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: plumber on July 15, 2011, 08:56:17 PM
So we finally surpassed Naughton thread, lads, eh?
Lads?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 15, 2011, 08:59:41 PM
So we finally surpassed Naughton thread, lads, eh?
Lads?

A dark day in the history of NSNO

A dark day indeed....
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 15, 2011, 09:00:00 PM
So we finally surpassed Naughton thread, lads, eh?
Lads?

If he doesn't sign now, I don't know what I'm gonna do to myself.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 15, 2011, 09:01:32 PM
I thought Naughton might have gotten to 54 pages, but maybe it was only 51-52. And who knows how many total posts were in it?

Well, I suppose Si knows and could come up with the figures.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 15, 2011, 09:04:17 PM
At least we bid for Naughton...
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 15, 2011, 09:08:07 PM
Its all my fault sorry lads,does Si give out awards for the longest thread ? ;D
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 15, 2011, 09:09:16 PM
Its all my fault sorry lads,does Si give out awards for the longest thread ? ;D

Yea, a ban.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Shogun on July 15, 2011, 09:09:33 PM
Its all my fault sorry lads,does Si give out awards for the longest thread ? ;D
check out the word association thread in the lower burrens, there's a long way to go yet
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 15, 2011, 09:11:32 PM
Yea, a ban.

 :snigger:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 15, 2011, 09:18:33 PM
Yea, a ban.

 lolol

But I think the official punishment is you have to spend a long weekend with SexyBlue.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gary Iceman on July 16, 2011, 01:56:26 AM
http://www.grandoldteam.com/news/transfer-news/2011/jul/15/breaking-news-everton-bid-for-nzogbia (http://www.grandoldteam.com/news/transfer-news/2011/jul/15/breaking-news-everton-bid-for-nzogbia)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Dublin Toffee on July 16, 2011, 01:56:41 AM
SSN now saying we've made an approach?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Trowel on July 16, 2011, 01:57:38 AM
SSN exclusive: Everton (?!) have matched Villa's £10m bid...
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Dublin Toffee on July 16, 2011, 02:01:48 AM
It's all an elaborate scheme to keep this thread open longer
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: JewishToffee92 on July 16, 2011, 02:02:10 AM
I knew this thread wouldn't be pointless
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on July 16, 2011, 02:05:15 AM
Oh well, at least we were in for him then.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: JoeHart on July 16, 2011, 02:06:06 AM
villa message board says they are in pole position
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 16, 2011, 02:06:29 AM
Why bid now then if they had the money all along?

This is just a smokescreen. We tried to bid blah blah blah....
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: JewishToffee92 on July 16, 2011, 02:08:09 AM
Why bid now then if they had the money all along?

This is just a smokescreen. We tried to bid blah blah blah....

100% agree
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 16, 2011, 02:10:30 AM
"And, whilst we are not blessed with a transfer 'war chest', and we're acutely aware, as custodians, that the long-term security of the club is paramount, there is no lack of ambition nor endeavour anywhere in the club."
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 16, 2011, 02:14:43 AM
is this story anywhere bar here, twitter and got?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: ALEX1878 on July 16, 2011, 02:15:37 AM
On SSN now with 'more to follow'.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 16, 2011, 02:17:11 AM
I reckon it's just a fake bid to take Bluekipper out. It doesn't work lol.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on July 16, 2011, 02:17:27 AM
if its on ssn then i shall beleive it, they rejected villas 9m bid and wont accept less than 10m, they should have about 30m to spend so i think theyll still get him
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Amata on July 16, 2011, 02:20:51 AM
This has probably come from the club to take some of the heat off the board. 
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 16, 2011, 02:26:01 AM
It's all an elaborate scheme to keep this thread open longer

:)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 16, 2011, 02:27:05 AM
if its on ssn then i shall beleive it, they rejected villas 9m bid and wont accept less than 10m, they should have about 30m to spend so i think theyll still get him

Not necessarily. If we have made a genuine bid with genuine money, I think we have a good chance of getting him. I think he stated a preference to move to Everton, plus there's a few other Frenchies there also.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on July 16, 2011, 02:27:11 AM
*gathers pace* watch this space ....
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 16, 2011, 02:27:59 AM
When was the last time we won a "bidding war"? AJ?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gash on July 16, 2011, 02:28:39 AM
Amazing how we wait until another club bids before actually doing anything.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 16, 2011, 02:29:01 AM
When was the last time we won a "bidding war"? AJ?

Think it was, we had beat off Wigan to sign him.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blainemaisonEFC on July 16, 2011, 02:31:06 AM
Full story is there now

"But Everton, who have yet to sign a player this summer, are hoping to hijack the move and have expressed a significant interest"

Doubt we have even made a bid just gonna say we tried but it was too late
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 16, 2011, 02:31:54 AM
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_7038652,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_7038652,00.html)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Chazman on July 16, 2011, 02:38:42 AM
We will probably do the usual and go in with a lower bid  :whistle:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: nomorechang on July 16, 2011, 02:41:03 AM
Not another false bid ? please ......
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 16, 2011, 02:42:56 AM
Amazing how we wait until another club bids before actually doing anything.

I believe it's called a forced hand.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: steve81 on July 16, 2011, 02:42:57 AM
everton havent even bid only expressed an interest
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: keverton1971 on July 16, 2011, 02:57:29 AM
http://www.grandoldteam.com/news/transfer-news/2011/jul/15/breaking-news-everton-bid-for-nzogbia (http://www.grandoldteam.com/news/transfer-news/2011/jul/15/breaking-news-everton-bid-for-nzogbia)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blainemaisonEFC on July 16, 2011, 02:58:20 AM
SSN just said definite interest but we are yet to sell anyone to raise funds,
Wigan are not gonna wait for us to magic money out of thin air so I think this is a feeble attempt to get fans back onside
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 16, 2011, 03:12:52 AM
Just when I thought I was out of the Nzogbia thread, THEY PULL ME BACK IN!

Just when I thought I was out...they pull me back in. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU#ws)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Fynci on July 16, 2011, 03:14:12 AM
haha Sky have backtracked. It was probably based entirely on this thread.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 16, 2011, 03:16:19 AM
haha Sky have backtracked. It was probably based entirely on this thread.

backtracked how?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Robioto on July 16, 2011, 03:20:28 AM
Hmmm, so maybe this does have legs after all. I bloody hope it does anyway.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 16, 2011, 03:22:19 AM
Elstone's told fans in Bury that we haven't made a bid...
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: bluedavey on July 16, 2011, 03:22:34 AM
Not sure we can blame the board on this one.  Looks like hand been forced by villa's bid and story probably leaked Wigans end to bump up the price.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: steve81 on July 16, 2011, 03:31:49 AM
i think sky are teasing evertonians
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Derek on July 16, 2011, 03:49:01 AM
Ha. Bollocks.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Craig_1878 on July 16, 2011, 03:59:10 AM
I give up....again.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on July 16, 2011, 03:59:38 AM
Elstone's told fans in Bury that we haven't made a bid...

Fucking  lolol
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gash on July 16, 2011, 04:13:48 AM
Elstone's told fans in Bury that we haven't made a bid...

That must be the communication with fans that he mentioned in his blog.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Chazman on July 16, 2011, 04:18:19 AM
Elstone's told fans in Bury that we haven't made a bid...


Verms' exclusive is now on NewsnowEverton  :snigger:

  http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Premier+League/Everton (http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Premier+League/Everton)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 16, 2011, 04:20:18 AM
That must be the communication with fans that he mentioned in his blog.

                                                           :clap:

 Evertonian humour has to be the funniest and most cutting in the Country.



                                               

                                                
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: irishtoffee on July 16, 2011, 05:25:27 AM
don't think i've ever had my hopes raised and dashed so quickly. wtf happened there? was it just a false report on sky or what? saw the post we were after bidding and went straight to sky sports and then nothing :'(
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 16, 2011, 07:56:26 AM
Never saw SSN say we had bid, just that we had expressed interest.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Shogun on July 17, 2011, 12:06:13 AM
reckon this thread can get to a 1000 before the how fast thread?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: charlatan on July 17, 2011, 12:33:39 AM
Have we made a bid yet? ;)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 17, 2011, 02:21:17 AM
Have we made a bid yet? ;)

What bid?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 17, 2011, 02:23:03 AM
Imagine how fucking bonkers this threads gonna go if we actually sign the motherfucker.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gash on July 17, 2011, 02:26:46 AM
Imagine how fucking bonkers this threads gonna go if we actually sign the motherfucker.

We can use it all season, then when he has a couple of shit games it can all be kept in here.  ;D
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on July 17, 2011, 02:34:36 AM
I must be the only one on here who doesn't have a hard on for the lad.

I think a lot of people just want to see us spend 12m on a player just to say we have.

The French lad who's queer looks like he could be worth a run in the team and id argue the right side of midfield is the more pressing area and up top deffo is.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 17, 2011, 02:41:16 AM
I must be the only one on here who doesn't have a hard on for the lad.

I think a lot of people just want to see us spend 12m on a player just to say we have.

The French lad who's queer looks like he could be worth a run in the team and id argue the right side of midfield is the more pressing area and up top deffo is.

Throw in some knob references quickly, otherwise you'll be classed as The Voice of Reason for the rest of your life.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on July 17, 2011, 04:25:07 AM
Throw in some knob references quickly, otherwise you'll be classed as The Voice of Reason for the rest of your life.

Im struggling to think of any just now, care to help me out?

Maybe I should just add certain posters names. Jonny & C-R-A-I-G should do it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 17, 2011, 04:28:32 AM
I must be the only one on here who doesn't have a hard on for the lad.

I think a lot of people just want to see us spend 12m on a player just to say we have.

The French lad who's queer looks like he could be worth a run in the team and id argue the right side of midfield is the more pressing area and up top deffo is.

He can play right can't he?  He isn't the be all bt he would fit perfectly into our side. 
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on July 17, 2011, 05:11:08 AM
He can play right can't he?  He isn't the be all bt he would fit perfectly into our side.  

I think most modern day wingers are interchangeable when called upon.

Im not saying he's a bad player at all and if Moyes had 50 million to spend then id be less likely to raise a 'brow at the fact we were spending 12m on him.

As it is though, and moreso if Yak does eventually leave we are absolutely desperate for a decent centre forward.

One of the many Craigs, im not sure which one but he's a big twat, said it earlier, our forward line is fucking wank.

12m buys you Jermaine Defoe. ;)

edit: With change left over to buy the Korean lad Lee from Bolton.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 17, 2011, 08:07:19 AM
We have not replaced Pienaar in any way yet,this lad imo would be an improvement,pace and skill.I agree we need a forward but have we been linkedwith any forward as yet,no then get wshat you can.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 17, 2011, 02:40:43 PM
 With change left over to buy the Korean lad Lee from Bolton.

 I can see why you've mentioned him, mgp - he's impressed me many times.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: nomorechang on July 17, 2011, 03:01:40 PM
With change left over to buy the Korean lad Lee from Bolton.

 I can see why you've mentioned him, mgp - he's impressed me many times.

I think he looks ok as well Les but I can't see Bolton letting him go to easily
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 17, 2011, 03:23:49 PM
I think he looks ok as well Les but I can't see Bolton letting him go to easily

 Have to agree, fella.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 17, 2011, 04:18:31 PM
We have not replaced Pienaar in any way yet,this lad imo would be an improvement,pace and skill.I agree we need a forward but have we been linkedwith any forward as yet,no then get wshat you can.

Yes and no. But not getting linked with any would be the most hopeful sign we've had all summer. Moyes rarely buys players we've been linked with.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 17, 2011, 04:21:52 PM
Yes and no. But not getting linked with any would be the most hopeful sign we've had all summer. Moyes rarely buys players we've been linked with.
True the harry redknaps and newcastles of this world see to that
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 17, 2011, 05:54:16 PM
OMG! The OS is down!

HE'S SIGNED!!!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 17, 2011, 06:00:07 PM
Quote
Service Temporarily Unavailable

The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.

Must be true.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 17, 2011, 06:01:43 PM
It's back. No signings.

(http://rlv.zcache.com/pfftch_rage_face_sticker-p217086200588774073qjcl_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 17, 2011, 08:02:23 PM
OMG! The OS is down!

HE'S SIGNED!!!

I thought 'the club has been sold' or 'Moyes has resigned' had taken over from 'we've made a big signing' as the go-to bollocks rumor when the OS goes down.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Shogun on July 17, 2011, 08:04:15 PM
site is still down!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 17, 2011, 08:05:42 PM
And we still haven't signed anyone.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 17, 2011, 08:06:46 PM
site is still down!

It's just being a cunt (I think that's the technical explanation?).
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Shogun on July 17, 2011, 08:08:10 PM
It's just being a cunt (I think that's the technical explanation?).
*looks at jamo's tool count*. *looks for cantoffee* ;)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 17, 2011, 08:12:55 PM
<starts abusing>
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 17, 2011, 08:14:29 PM
Didnt the site go down when Arteta signed a new contract.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 17, 2011, 08:15:51 PM
Says it's down for maintenance for me.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Shogun on July 17, 2011, 08:17:13 PM
<starts abusing>
you're taking a strong lead, cantoffee hasn't been on for a few days
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 17, 2011, 08:22:23 PM
bluekipper says "wel get are man" weird how elstone says " were skint" then all of sudden were signing nzogbia
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 17, 2011, 08:29:03 PM
you're taking a strong lead, cantoffee hasn't been on for a few days

That's because I've kidnapped him.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Shogun on July 17, 2011, 08:29:35 PM
That's because I've kidnapped him.
+1  :smug:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 17, 2011, 08:29:42 PM
"wel get are man"

What does this even mean?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 17, 2011, 08:35:45 PM
What does this even mean?
you know that it means :whistle:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Shogun on July 17, 2011, 08:38:28 PM
sites back up!




its the same as before
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 17, 2011, 10:40:16 PM
sites back up!




its the same as before

Shit?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on July 17, 2011, 10:43:55 PM
I think he looks ok as well Les but I can't see Bolton letting him go to easily

I think he's in the last couple of years (if not the last) of his current contract.

Liverpool were linked with him last year under Hodgson.

If he's in the final year of his contract he would be within what we could afford I would hope.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 17, 2011, 10:50:09 PM
I think he's in the last couple of years (if not the last) of his current contract.

Liverpool were linked with him last year under Hodgson.

If he's in the final year of his contract he would be within what we could afford I would hope.

He looks a useful player and one who would fit in well
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: RICH on July 18, 2011, 06:48:53 PM
villa bid rejected
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: steve81 on July 18, 2011, 06:53:03 PM
villa bid rejected
definately cannot see us signing him then as that was a lot anyway
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Dublin Toffee on July 18, 2011, 07:16:14 PM
Nothing out yet that suggests Villa bid near 10 million so lets wait and see
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: RICH on July 18, 2011, 08:11:08 PM
The Villans are believed to have tabled a £10million bid for the 25-year-old as manager Alex McLeish looks to rebuild his midfield following the departures of Ashley Young and Stewart Downing to Manchester United and Liverpool respectively.

However, Latics boss Roberto Martinez is reported to have rejected the offer based on the club's own valuation of the player.

The Lanchaire outfit's chairman Dave Whelan has echoed his manager's sentiments and views N'Zogbia's price tag as far above the £10m mark.

The Midlanders, though, will be urged to consider improving their bid as a number of England's top-flight teams, including Everton and former club Newcastle, are thought to be considering a move for the Frenchman.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: BLUECELT on July 18, 2011, 08:18:00 PM
good luck to wigan if they think theyre going to get much more than 10mill for him.

This thread is the most ludicrous ever.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 18, 2011, 08:30:33 PM
You'd be daft to pay much more than 10 mil now given that a few months later he'd be valued about 50%-60% lower. Not to mention a few months later further on he'd be free.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 18, 2011, 08:31:56 PM
You'd be daft to pay much more than 10 mil now given that a few months later he'd be valued about 50%-60% lower. Not to mention a few months later further on he'd be free.
True, but by paying it now, you're guaranteed to get him, whereas in 6-12 months time, competition will be much higher.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 18, 2011, 08:42:54 PM
True, but by paying it now, you're guaranteed to get him, whereas in 6-12 months time, competition will be much higher.

Yeah, it depends how confident a club is in their ability to attract him I suppose. It's a balancing act by all involved but I'd be amazed if he went for more than 12mil. The market seems very distorted right now though given Liverpool's dealings in particular.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 18, 2011, 08:45:08 PM
Agreed.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: efcraz on July 18, 2011, 08:47:39 PM
if he had a decent length contract at wigan he would only just be worth 12m imo with a year left i would of thought that 8m at the most would be enough, apparently not!!

players are worth what someone is willing to pay and unfortunately we arnt willing to pay anything
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: christiffa25 on July 18, 2011, 09:48:18 PM
Last year of contract 8M is a fair price for him. I hope everyone pulls out of a deal for him and Wigan lose out in 6 months when he goes for a fraction of the price or as said 6 months later for nothing and they will be stuck with I'm sure a really pissed off player!

Time to move on to other targets me thinks
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Tinga on July 18, 2011, 10:08:06 PM
Well that's us out of the race since we have no money, strange that isn't it.

No money, not a penny haha.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: nomorechang on July 18, 2011, 10:08:49 PM
David Myes's quote to those lads from KEIOC in directors box at Bury

" It appears David Moyes’ plea has fallen on deaf ears so far; speaking to members of KEIOC on Friday evening, who were in the directors box for the Bury game, he explained, “no players coming in no players going out, we've got no money” asked about Nzogbia he exclaimed “I wish!”
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Tinga on July 18, 2011, 10:11:10 PM
David Myes's quote to those lads from KEIOC in directors box at Bury

" It appears David Moyes’ plea has fallen on deaf ears so far; speaking to members of KEIOC on Friday evening, who were in the directors box for the Bury game, he explained, “no players coming in no players going out, we've got no money” asked about Nzogbia he exclaimed “I wish!”

It's great that we are the laughing stock of the premiership, the butt of every ones joke  lolol How can we have no money?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 18, 2011, 10:16:10 PM
David Myes's quote to those lads from KEIOC in directors box at Bury

" It appears David Moyes’ plea has fallen on deaf ears so far; speaking to members of KEIOC on Friday evening, who were in the directors box for the Bury game, he explained, “no players coming in no players going out, we've got no money” asked about Nzogbia he exclaimed “I wish!”

Horseshit. Since when does Moyes discuss transfer plans with the fans?!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 18, 2011, 10:28:02 PM
Horseshit. Since when does Moyes discuss transfer plans with the fans?!

...using the words "transfer" and "plan" in their loosest possible sense of course.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: plumber on July 18, 2011, 10:32:19 PM

Time to move on to other targets me thinks

After 60 pages???
No way. We'll go till the end now.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: efcraz on July 18, 2011, 11:13:31 PM
as these guys once said....
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: sharpattack on July 18, 2011, 11:18:52 PM
Horseshit. Since when does Moyes discuss transfer plans with the fans?!
When someone wants to make a tit of themselves and add credibility to some spurious rumour
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: dangermouse on July 18, 2011, 11:29:19 PM
I'm wondering what the fallout will be like when this lad signs for someone else..... and more interestingly who it will all be aimed at.... But I guess thats a stupid question...
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 18, 2011, 11:41:31 PM
I'm wondering what the fallout will be like when this lad signs for someone else..... and more interestingly who it will all be aimed at.... But I guess thats a stupid question...

when he signs for someone else, the hysteria should be aimed at the ITK on kipper who agent mate supposedly gave him the info on us being interested. However, it will all be blamed on the board.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 19, 2011, 12:00:43 AM
Horseshit. Since when does Moyes discuss transfer plans with the fans?!

Yeah, it's not like he said it to a taxi driver or his tailor or Tokyo Toffee.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Danka on July 19, 2011, 03:04:20 AM
According to some guy on Talksport N Zogbia prefers a move to Villa  :badum:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 19, 2011, 03:09:44 AM
Well according to 5 live we've made no moves for anyone, at all.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Danka on July 19, 2011, 03:15:21 AM
Would love to be a fly on the wall at Everton Football Club! The day to day going ons and conversations between staff must be priceless  :headbang:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: bluedavey on July 19, 2011, 03:33:37 AM
Did anyone listen to the 5 live program?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: JoeHart on July 19, 2011, 03:38:43 AM
i hate 5live

middle class radio for clueless fans with crap pundits who always play it safe.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 19, 2011, 04:06:52 PM
David Myes's quote to those lads from KEIOC in directors box at Bury

" It appears David Moyes’ plea has fallen on deaf ears so far; speaking to members of KEIOC on Friday evening, who were in the directors box for the Bury game, he explained, “no players coming in no players going out, we've got no money” asked about Nzogbia he exclaimed “I wish!”


So, we've got this (above) lovely juicy thinker and, Si's (below, from - Why hasn't Prentice printed this revelation) equally depressing slice of lemon.

 he told this to someone a few weeks ago...he said Leighton Baines had spoken to David Moyes before they went away for their holidays...he said Baines had been called in by Moyes and asked a question..."If the club receive an offer of more than £12m would you leave without a fuss?"...he said that Baines had told him the whole squad felt like they were for sale and expected to go if the right offer came in for them

 Personally, I don't believe either of them, but then again, it wouldn't surprise me one iota if they are both true. As Forrest Gump might say...this is all I have to say:

 I think we (the whole club) has reached the zenith of realiz(s)ation...David Moyes is walking a tightrope of team/squad stablization, and attempting to stay positive, in the knowledge that he truly doesn't know what lies ahead...the job, his job, has gone-up a notch - a blindfold has now been put before his eyes.

 Bill Kenwright, the ring-master, is watching from the wings, eyes slightly squinted, waiting for the almighty fall. He knows the nerve, the pride, of more than what is expected from his main attraction could just collapse at any second, and if it does happen, there's a good chance the Everton Big Top will become his white elephant that may never go on the road again.

 
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 19, 2011, 07:27:42 PM
Times is reporting that we are gonna put a bid in for Nzogbia...... Even the journalist sounds shocked
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 19, 2011, 07:39:46 PM
Times is reporting that we are gonna put a bid in for Nzogbia...... Even the journalist sounds shocked

Was going to ask for a link, but The Times is subscription only right?
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Post by: Jimmywhack on July 19, 2011, 07:41:34 PM
Was going to ask for a link, but The Times is subscription only right?

I read it on the OS in the in the news section for today
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Post by: Jamokachi on July 19, 2011, 07:46:34 PM
:thumbsup:
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Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 19, 2011, 07:46:50 PM
I read it on the OS in the in the news section for today

 That's a crafty little find, Jim.

                            :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 19, 2011, 08:35:56 PM
Yesterday the Times website had been hacked. The Sun's had aswell.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: BLUECELT on July 19, 2011, 08:38:21 PM
god I wish this thread would JUST FUCKING DIE!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: plumber on July 19, 2011, 08:47:45 PM
I understand we haven't signed him yet? It looks like the transfer has stalled for a while.
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Post by: Ong-Timus Prime on July 19, 2011, 10:11:23 PM
62 pages so far and only another 6+ weeks to go before the window closes..
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Post by: Azz on July 19, 2011, 10:22:00 PM
I understand we haven't signed him yet? It looks like the transfer has stalled for a while.

It'll probably be sorted after the team is back from the US, so maybe early August when it's all wrapped up so he can get some game time with the team against Weder Bremen and Villarreal.  Hopefully that's the only reason why it hasn't be announced and nothing to do with financial complications.
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Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 19, 2011, 11:13:06 PM
What the hell is or isn't going on now with this?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on July 20, 2011, 03:11:21 AM
3 hours since a post, time to post then!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: irishtoffee on July 20, 2011, 03:16:08 AM
this thread really is going to beat the "how fast" thread. the only thing they have in common is that they are both full of nonsense
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 20, 2011, 03:21:29 AM
this thread really is going to beat the "how fast" thread. the only thing they have in common is that they are both full of nonsense

So do you think" we should go with what weve got then" mate
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: bigac on July 20, 2011, 05:12:44 AM
The fact Dave Whelan has today talked about the offer from Villa (only) should be the clearest indication everyone needs that we have no deal in place and no offer on the table. With Villa just £1m away from the asking price and with money to burn, that is where he will end up as no one else will be prepared to offer £10m now when the price would have fallen significantly come end of the deadline knowing Wigan would have to sell in this window to avoid the risk of a Pienaar fee in January, or even a free next season. Move on. Arteta was far more effective on the left wing (remember ripping Sunderland to shreads) than centre and that leaves Ossie, Fella and Cahill/Billy for the centre - sweet! Any pennies we have needs to go on a striker and back up left fullback.
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Post by: Dayne88 on July 20, 2011, 05:19:00 AM
The fact Dave Whelan has today talked about the offer from Villa (only) should be the clearest indication everyone needs that we have no deal in place and no offer on the table. With Villa just £1m away from the asking price and with money to burn, that is where he will end up as no one else will be prepared to offer £10m now when the price would have fallen significantly come end of the deadline knowing Wigan would have to sell in this window to avoid the risk of a Pienaar fee in January, or even a free next season. Move on. Arteta was far more effective on the left wing (remember ripping Sunderland to shreads) than centre and that leaves Ossie, Fella and Cahill/Billy for the centre - sweet! Any pennies we have needs to go on a striker and back up left fullback.

Mate our team is cryin out for an out and out winger!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on July 20, 2011, 05:54:20 AM
Mate our team is cryin out for an out and out winger!

We all agree on this but what I cant get my head round is the fact people want to spunk probably every penny we have on a lad who is really nothing out of the ordinary, in the last year of his contract and over priced.

We need to box clever when it comes to spending our limited funds and N'Zogbia is not the answer imo.

Id be pretty pissed off if Moyes spent 10m on this lad considering we have Billy and Gueye there (who Moyes has spoken highly of in the past)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 20, 2011, 06:07:54 AM
We all agree on this but what I cant get my head round is the fact people want to spunk probably every penny we have on a lad who is really nothing out of the ordinary, in the last year of his contract and over priced.

We need to box clever when it comes to spending our limited funds and N'Zogbia is not the answer imo.

Id be pretty pissed off if Moyes spent 10m on this lad considering we have Billy and Gueye there (who Moyes has spoken highly of in the past)

With the best will in the world Bily will never make  winger as long as he's got a hole in his arse,like Bily but if he is gonna make it at Everton it will be in Cahills position .He does not possess the pace to be a winger,Guey although promising may not be ready yet that would be a gamble.We need a pacy winger,though i think Nzogbia will end up at villa,i dont know who
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Dayne88 on July 20, 2011, 06:09:06 AM
We all agree on this but what I cant get my head round is the fact people want to spunk probably every penny we have on a lad who is really nothing out of the ordinary, in the last year of his contract and over priced.

We need to box clever when it comes to spending our limited funds and N'Zogbia is not the answer imo.

Id be pretty pissed off if Moyes spent 10m on this lad considering we have Billy and Gueye there (who Moyes has spoken highly of in the past)
I personally like nzogbia and would love to see him in an everton shirt, but i do agree with you when it comes to spending all our funds on one player.
I think the best we are going to do in this window is loan signings. Its a very sad and frustrating situation that we are in. Moyes would only need around 25 mil to push us that extra mile. :(
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: bigac on July 20, 2011, 06:12:44 AM
Mate our team is cryin out for an out and out winger!

Yes, but Arteta can do a better job there than a £10m nZogbia. If we had the money then maybe we could accommodate that luxury, but someone to do what Yak did a few seasons back and stick 20 in the back of the net is more important and he did that without any out and out wingers. In any case, were not getting nZogbia!!!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 20, 2011, 06:18:00 AM
Yes, but Arteta can do a better job there than a £10m nZogbia. If we had the money then maybe we could accommodate that luxury, but someone to do what Yak did a few seasons back and stick 20 in the back of the net is more important and he did that without any out and out wingers. In any case, were not getting nZogbia!!!

This firstly if we have money a striker,then a winger probably a loanee
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on July 20, 2011, 06:19:24 AM
I personally like nzogbia and would love to see him in an everton shirt, but i do agree with you when it comes to spending all our funds on one player.
I think the best we are going to do in this window is loan signings. Its a very sad and frustrating situation that we are in. Moyes would only need around 25 mil to push us that extra mile. :(

That's just not true mate.

25m doesn't get you a top class striker these days which is something we desperately need.

Moyes would need about 80m to get us in and around the top 4 spots in todays league.

1X CB, 2 X Wingers, 1X Classy central midfielder. 1X Top drawer striker. As a minimum.

Plus in an ideal world. 1X world class keeper, 1x RB and 1X back up left back.

Man City have spent 370m to get into the top 4, Liverpool 300m in the past 4 seasons to get into the top 6.

We're lightyears off the top 4 at present pal.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Shogun on July 20, 2011, 06:25:20 AM
That's just not true mate.

25m doesn't get you a top class striker these days which is something we desperately need.

Moyes would need about 80m to get us in and around the top 4 spots in todays league.

1X CB, 2 X Wingers, 1X Classy central midfielder. 1X Top drawer striker. As a minimum.

Plus in an ideal world. 1X world class keeper, 1x RB and 1X back up left back.

Man City have spent 370m to get into the top 4, Liverpool 300m in the past 4 seasons to get into the top 6.

We're lightyears off the top 4 at present pal.
surely we don't need another centre back? isn't felli a classy midfielder?(or do you mean fabreggas/modric-esque?)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: BootleBlueBoy on July 20, 2011, 06:44:54 AM
to challenge top 4 the team needs a goal scoring winger, a top striker, cover a left back and backup creative centre mid, moyes could buy that for less than 40m, moyes ability to get the best out of his squad would do the rest, he would need over 80m over 4-5 years to keep competing at that level
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 20, 2011, 07:52:38 AM
Yes, but Arteta can do a better job there than a £10m nZogbia. If we had the money then maybe we could accommodate that luxury, but someone to do what Yak did a few seasons back and stick 20 in the back of the net is more important and he did that without any out and out wingers. In any case, were not getting nZogbia!!!

Arteta was moved back in the centre because he became stale out wide. He's far more effective in the centre and I'm sick of players like Osman and the like playing out of position there.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: .Rimbo. on July 20, 2011, 10:29:23 PM
We all agree on this but what I cant get my head round is the fact people want to spunk probably every penny we have on a lad who is really nothing out of the ordinary, in the last year of his contract and over priced.

We need to box clever when it comes to spending our limited funds and N'Zogbia is not the answer imo.

Id be pretty pissed off if Moyes spent 10m on this lad considering we have Billy and Gueye there (who Moyes has spoken highly of in the past)

Gueye could be very useful in the future, Bilyaletdinov is nowhere near N'Zogbia though. First of all, they're two different types of player and N'Zogbia's the exact type of player we need.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on July 21, 2011, 12:42:25 AM
surely we don't need another centre back? isn't felli a classy midfielder?(or do you mean fabreggas/modric-esque?)

Id say we do need another CB. Distin is going to be 33 soon, Johnny's form depends on how the tea leaves in mystic Meg's cup line up with the Moons in Venus and none of the youngsters coming through are ready yet.

Yeah Felli is top class but it's the creative type we're lacking. Unless Arteta pulls his finger out we're going to struggle to unlock teams in open play this season just like we did last.

Anyway enough with the day dreaming and back to reality of what we can realistically afford at present.

A striker who can be relied upon to be a 1 in 3 goalscorer is what we absolutely above anything else need to be focussing out attentions on this summer.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Confucius on July 21, 2011, 12:55:44 AM
Yeah A striker who can be relied upon to be a 1 in 3 goalscorer is what we absolutely above anything else need to be focussing out attentions on this summer.

Not only this Summer but the last few Summers.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on July 21, 2011, 01:46:40 AM
Beckford must have been close to 1 in 3 last season, Saha as well.

In my opinion, I think if we do spend on a forward, he would need more to his game than decent goal ratio. We would be better off, getting a striker that compliments a goalscorer. Someone with good movement, an eye for a pass, who works smart rather than hard.

With better service and a bit more guile in the oppponents third, I could see Saha or Beckford getting on the scoresheet more often.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on July 21, 2011, 02:19:11 AM
ideally you want a 1 in 2 goal scorer, 1 in 3 is like 10 in 30, whereas 15 in 30 or 10 in 20 sounds better
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Thom on July 21, 2011, 02:19:54 AM
Still not signed him then?
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Post by: blargins on July 21, 2011, 02:20:54 AM
Beckford must have been close to 1 in 3 last season, Saha as well.

In my opinion, I think if we do spend on a forward, he would need more to his game than decent goal ratio. We would be better off, getting a striker that compliments a goalscorer. Someone with good movement, an eye for a pass, who works smart rather than hard.

With better service and a bit more guile in the oppponents third, I could see Saha or Beckford getting on the scoresheet more often.

It does sound like Bily could potentially do that.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on July 21, 2011, 02:31:43 AM
here we go... again.

http://www.clicklancashire.com/sport/wigan-athletic-fc/1210041-everton-to-launch-bid-for-wigan-athletic-winger-n%C3%83%C6%92%C3%82%C2%A2%C3%83%E2%80%9A%C3%82%E2%82%AC%C3%83%E2%80%9A%C3%82%E2%84%A2zogbia.html (http://www.clicklancashire.com/sport/wigan-athletic-fc/1210041-everton-to-launch-bid-for-wigan-athletic-winger-n%C3%83%C6%92%C3%82%C2%A2%C3%83%E2%80%9A%C3%82%E2%82%AC%C3%83%E2%80%9A%C3%82%E2%84%A2zogbia.html)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Shogun on July 21, 2011, 02:33:43 AM
Quote
According to reports Everton are moving for Wigan Athletic midfielder Charles N'Zogbia.

The Times claims the Toffees have made an approach to sign the Frenchman.

Wigan Athletic want £10 million for the winger after they rejected a £9 million offer from Aston Villa.

N'Zogbia has been offered an extension to his contract, which ends this season.

Everton's financial position has been squeezed because their bank is likely to reduce their overdraft facility by £5 million to about £20 million.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Confucius on July 21, 2011, 03:53:16 AM
I just like how as soon as this thread starts dying, a new link comes up to fuel it up again. It's destiny that he signs and then snaps his achilles in his first training session.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gash on July 21, 2011, 04:06:40 AM
I think the media are onto this thread and as soon as it starts dying on it's arse someone else runs another story.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 21, 2011, 04:12:18 AM
Beckford must have been close to 1 in 3 last season, Saha as well.

In my opinion, I think if we do spend on a forward, he would need more to his game than decent goal ratio. We would be better off, getting a striker that compliments a goalscorer. Someone with good movement, an eye for a pass, who works smart rather than hard.

With better service and a bit more guile in the oppponents third, I could see Saha or Beckford getting on the scoresheet more often.

 What a shame Jo was a flop.

 http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_7051141,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_7051141,00.html)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Tony Clifton on July 21, 2011, 04:29:29 AM
What a shame Jo was a flop.

 http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_7051141,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_7051141,00.html)

I quite liked Jo, scored some important goals for us in his first spell, but his head and his heart - and sometimes his feet - we're back home weren't they?  Now he can take his bank balance and finally synchronise it with the aforementioned body parts and organs.  Good luck to him.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 21, 2011, 04:37:06 AM
I quite liked Jo, scored some important goals for us in his first spell, but his head and his heart - and sometimes his feet - we're back home weren't they?

 I totally agree. Weirdly, as you say, sometimes you'd be thinking, what's going on inside that head of his, yet I also liked him.
                                                                                               
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: dekko on July 21, 2011, 04:47:49 AM
Wigan Athletic midfielder Charles N'Zogbia to go on strike in attempt to force Roberto Martinez to sell him

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/wigan-athletic/8650812/Wigan-Athletic-midfielder-Charles-NZogbia-to-go-on-strike-in-attempt-to-force-Roberto-Martinez-to-sell-him.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/wigan-athletic/8650812/Wigan-Athletic-midfielder-Charles-NZogbia-to-go-on-strike-in-attempt-to-force-Roberto-Martinez-to-sell-him.html)



So he wants to move. The question is, do we really have £10mil?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on July 21, 2011, 04:53:50 AM
He'll be at Villa before too long,  I'd imagine Wigan overstated our interest to try and make Villa stump up the asking fee quicker.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Confucius on July 21, 2011, 05:00:48 AM
Or maybe Villa will back away because the mighty Everton were interested. It sounds better in my head.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 21, 2011, 05:06:48 AM
Wigan Athletic midfielder Charles N'Zogbia to go on strike in attempt to force Roberto Martinez to sell him

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/wigan-athletic/8650812/Wigan-Athletic-midfielder-Charles-NZogbia-to-go-on-strike-in-attempt-to-force-Roberto-Martinez-to-sell-him.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/wigan-athletic/8650812/Wigan-Athletic-midfielder-Charles-NZogbia-to-go-on-strike-in-attempt-to-force-Roberto-Martinez-to-sell-him.html)



So he wants to move. The question is, do we really have £10mil?


 That Telegraph gossip seems a bit questionable to me.

 Martinez said this today;

 "In football, things can change hour by hour, but as it stands at this moment, Charles is very much a Wigan player - and is training as usual with the rest of the squad ahead of our trip to Austria".

 Here;

  http://www.wiganlatics.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10429~2397252,00.html (http://www.wiganlatics.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10429~2397252,00.html)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on July 21, 2011, 05:14:43 AM
I wouldn't take too much notice of that, Whelan has already said he will have to be sold, as he is in his last year of his contract and they won't pay anywhere near what he wants.

N'Zogbia has a bit of a habit of chucking a strop, wouldn't be surprised at all if he is thinking and talking about going on strike, even if he doesn't.

Wigan are just trying to get as much as they can from the deal, but I can't see them getting much over the £9m they already rejected.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on July 21, 2011, 05:19:09 AM
we need him!, baines and n'zogbia down the left = frightening!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 21, 2011, 05:23:17 AM
I wouldn't take too much notice of that, Whelan has already said he will have to be sold, as he is in his last year of his contract and they won't pay anywhere near what he wants.

N'Zogbia has a bit of a habit of chucking a strop, wouldn't be surprised at all if he is thinking and talking about going on strike, even if he doesn't.

Wigan are just trying to get as much as they can from the deal, but I can't see them getting much over the £9m they already rejected.

 I can't really argue with any that (boy, there are some lads in here who know-what's-what). I saw the Telegraph link and thought - at least give us some sort of quote - anyone could write that.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on July 21, 2011, 05:23:19 AM
The more I learn about the goings on with N'Zogbia the less I want him here.

Comes across like a huge cock muncher.

Carlos Tevez wants to leave City, a club genuinely in with a shout of the league in the coming years and has conducted himself very well.

This lad is acting like a teenage girl on her first period who's been told she cant go to see Take that until someone buys her an overpriced ticket from e-bay.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Confucius on July 21, 2011, 05:27:19 AM
The more I learn about the goings on with N'Zogbia the less I want him here.

Comes across like a huge cock muncher.

Carlos Tevez wants to leave City, a club genuinely in with a shout of the league in the coming years and has conducted himself very well.

This lad is acting like a teenage girl on her first period who's been told she cant go to see Take that until someone buys her an overpriced ticket from e-bay.

Tevez has conducted himself anything but well. been acting like a spoilt school child. He is close to the highest paid player in the world. Signed a 5 year contract but then been shooting his mouth off every 2 weeks about how he hates it at Manchester. Spoilt idiot if you ask me.
I am not defending N'Zogbia but he all the articles are just rumours.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 21, 2011, 05:28:18 AM
 Carlos Tevez wants to leave City, a club genuinely in with a shout of the league in the coming years and has conducted himself very well.

 Weird that. Not trying to be argumentative, I see Tevez as a selfish, what's in it for me (financially), bank-balance builder.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Shogun on July 21, 2011, 05:29:38 AM
The more I learn about the goings on with N'Zogbia the less I want him here.

Comes across like a huge cock muncher.

Carlos Tevez wants to leave City, a club genuinely in with a shout of the league in the coming years and has conducted himself very well.

This lad is acting like a teenage girl on her first period who's been told she cant go to see Take that until someone buys her an overpriced ticket from e-bay.
tevez has acted much worse. also tevez isn't exactly leaving for a better club(supposedly) but for a better life for his family whereas n'zogbia is at a team tipped for relegation next year with teams in the top 8 interested.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gash on July 21, 2011, 05:33:19 AM
The more I learn about the goings on with N'Zogbia the less I want him here.

Comes across like a huge cock muncher.

Carlos Tevez wants to leave City, a club genuinely in with a shout of the league in the coming years and has conducted himself very well.

This lad is acting like a teenage girl on her first period who's been told she cant go to see Take that until someone buys her an overpriced ticket from e-bay.

I don't think slating the city you live in is conducting yourself well, or when at Utd, saying he wouldn't go to Liverpool out of respect to the Utd fans, then moving to City. Saying you want to leave, then not, then wanting to again. He's done everything but conduct himself well.

The quotes from Martinez in the article were cut short and missed out the comments where he was very complimentary of N'Zogbia.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gash on July 21, 2011, 05:36:06 AM
Carlos Tevez wants to leave City, a club genuinely in with a shout of the league in the coming years and has conducted himself very well.

 Weird that. Not trying to be argumentative, I see Tevez as a selfish, what's in it for me (financially), bank-balance builder.

I think it's more his representatives that see as what's in it for them. Tevez isn't the most intelligent of people and has some bad people advising him. They're just taking what they can, while they can.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 21, 2011, 05:43:14 AM
I think it's more his representatives that see as what's in it for them. Tevez isn't the most intelligent of people and has some bad people advising him. They're just taking what they can, while they can.

 I hear you, mate - but, you typed this (below) 9 minutes ago;

 I don't think slating the city you live in is conducting yourself well, or when at Utd, saying he wouldn't go to Liverpool out of respect to the Utd fans, then moving to City. Saying you want to leave, then not, then wanting to again.

 Did that all come out of Tevez's mouth - if so, (hypothetically) did his agent(s) make him say and do these things. If so, the lad must be about 6 years old in the head and, he's a millionaire! Strange world this football malarky.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on July 21, 2011, 05:50:39 AM
To be fair they are a pair of cocks, the amount of a cock they appear to be, depends on the current circumstances.

N'Zogbia seems keen to win things and play at a high level, while getting more money. He could have kicked off last year when people came knocking, but I think he felt he owed Wigan something. Last season I think that Charles felt he had paid them in full and more so, with helping to keep them in the PL.

Tevez is a mercenary for hire, his team want as many moves and as much money as possible. But I'm starting to get a feeling that he wants to be with his family, more than his family want to be with him.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on July 21, 2011, 05:58:27 AM
He'll be at Villa before too long,  I'd imagine Wigan overstated our interest to try and make Villa stump up the asking fee quicker.

One of them other Everton sites claim he will snub any move to Villa in favour of joining us.

Would love it to be true.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on July 21, 2011, 06:44:34 AM
One of them other Everton sites claim he will snub any move to Villa in favour of joining us.

Would love it to be true.
I suspect he may prefer to come to us, but we won't be an option.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 21, 2011, 08:54:48 AM
One of them other Everton sites claim he will snub any move to Villa in favour of joining us.

Would love it to be true.

He might have to wait a year then.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gash on July 21, 2011, 03:23:29 PM
I hear you, mate - but, you typed this (below) 9 minutes ago;

 I don't think slating the city you live in is conducting yourself well, or when at Utd, saying he wouldn't go to Liverpool out of respect to the Utd fans, then moving to City. Saying you want to leave, then not, then wanting to again.

 Did that all come out of Tevez's mouth - if so, (hypothetically) did his agent(s) make him say and do these things. If so, the lad must be about 6 years old in the head and, he's a millionaire! Strange world this football malarky.

To be honest Les, it wouldn't surprise me if it was his people putting words in his mouth.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: plumber on July 22, 2011, 12:35:09 AM
What the fuck is going on here? No post in 9 hours!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 22, 2011, 12:49:46 AM
Can you imagine what this forum will be like when we actually do sign a player?

If only mere interest gets 65 pages I dread to think...
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on July 22, 2011, 02:27:38 AM
Can you imagine what this forum will be like when we actually do sign a player?

If only mere interest gets 65 pages I dread to think...

we wil only be imagining!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: steve81 on July 22, 2011, 04:18:14 AM
surprised that villa havent upped their bid yet
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Evertonexile on July 22, 2011, 04:20:35 AM
Wait, who?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 22, 2011, 04:39:01 AM
surprised that villa havent upped their bid yet

 Has this already found its way in here (if so, I apologise):

 
WIGAN chairman Dave Whelan has warned Aston Villa to up their bid for Charles N'Zogbia from £9 million to £10 million or forget about signing the French winger.

 But McLeish is now considering alternative options including Aiden McGeady and Shaun Wright-Phillips after reaching stalemate over N'Zogbia.

 However, Wigan owner Whelan admits there is still a deal to be done for the 25-year-old who has just 12 months left on his contract if Villa up their opening gambit by £1 million.

 "It's £10m or there is no deal," said Whelan.

  "They offered us £9m and we refused it — firstly because we would like to keep Charles, and secondly because if he is to go, then we have to get the right price for him.

 http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2011/07/19/aston-villa-n-zogbia-deal-is-off-unless-10-million-asking-price-is-met-says-wigan-s-dave-whelan-97319-29080446/ (http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2011/07/19/aston-villa-n-zogbia-deal-is-off-unless-10-million-asking-price-is-met-says-wigan-s-dave-whelan-97319-29080446/)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 22, 2011, 04:44:02 AM
Has this already found its way in here yet (if so, I apologise):

 
WIGAN chairman Dave Whelan has warned Aston Villa to up their bid for Charles N'Zogbia from £9 million to £10 million or forget about signing the French winger.

 But McLeish is now considering alternative options including Aiden McGeady and Shaun Wright-Phillips after reaching stalemate over N'Zogbia.

 However, Wigan owner Whelan admits there is still a deal to be done for the 25-year-old who has just 12 months left on his contract if Villa up their opening gambit by £1 million.

 "It's £10m or there is no deal," said Whelan.

  "They offered us £9m and we refused it — firstly because we would like to keep Charles, and secondly because if he is to go, then we have to get the right price for him.

 http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2011/07/19/aston-villa-n-zogbia-deal-is-off-unless-10-million-asking-price-is-met-says-wigan-s-dave-whelan-97319-29080446/ (http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2011/07/19/aston-villa-n-zogbia-deal-is-off-unless-10-million-asking-price-is-met-says-wigan-s-dave-whelan-97319-29080446/)


Fuck me he cant rate him that highly if he want spend an extra 1m of his (lets say his kitty is £35m) kitty on him and would prefer them two fucking yard dogs
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 22, 2011, 05:03:07 AM
 Fuck me he cant rate him that highly if he want spend an extra 1m of his (lets say his kitty is £35m) kitty on him and would prefer them two fucking yard dogs

 I'd have to agree - he'll go to 9 but baulk at 10 - puzzling.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 22, 2011, 05:03:59 AM
Probably one of the reasons Villa fans were against McLeish being their manager.
Title: Re: Nzogbia and a sneaky trunk.
Post by: Ridge on July 22, 2011, 08:34:13 AM
I'm not quite sure the reasoning behind this decision, but you've brought this upon yourselves.

Goldfinger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MagCoUYvIXE#)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: christiffa25 on July 22, 2011, 01:46:11 PM
Well there we go official... 10M will secure the services of a very good player at the right age who can play on either wing a position we have needed to fill for years and were nowhere to be seen! I love being a evertonian with bill and co ruling the roost.

Forget the money from yak and yobo's pending departures, seen as it's been 2 years since we bought a player and have sold pienaar, vaghan, yaks and yobo's loan fees, saved wages on loan players, gone with what we got small squads, had vast amounts of tv money and had high attendences from our fantastic supporters...

It strikes me as a fucking crime we supposedly have no money available to make a crucial signing!!!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 22, 2011, 02:58:18 PM
Would be a nice use for the Bellefield 10 million...whatever happened to that?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: steve81 on July 22, 2011, 03:01:12 PM
Would be a nice use for the Bellefield 10 million...whatever happened to that?
more money that disappeared at everton
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 22, 2011, 03:02:35 PM
Maybe if we all cross our fingers like bill ;D
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 22, 2011, 07:35:14 PM
To be honest Les, it wouldn't surprise me if it was his people putting words in his mouth.

 Carlos Tevez's advisor, Kia Joorabchian, remains confident that other clubs will want to sign the wantaway Manchester City striker.

 Reports have suggested the Argentina international has held talks with Inter Milan after he was pictured shaking hands with the club's sporting director, Marco Branca, while on holiday in Sardinia.

 Inter have emerged among the favourites to sign Tevez after Corinthians had to pull out of a £40million deal for the player, who has requested a transfer at City because he wants to be closer to his family.

 Jose Mourinho's Real Madrid have also been linked with the 27-year-old, but it remains to be seen if any club are prepared to meet City's £50m European asking price for their star asset.

 Joorabchian said: "This is Carlos Tevez we are talking about, one of the best players in the world. We are not overly worried."

 "He wants to leave but is still a City player at the moment and we will of course respect that. We've just got to wait and see who comes in next for him."

 http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_7054862,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_7054862,00.html)

 What a fuckin' joke.


.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 22, 2011, 07:40:08 PM
Wigan Athletic midfielder Charles N'Zogbia to go on strike in attempt to force Roberto Martinez to sell him

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/wigan-athletic/8650812/Wigan-Athletic-midfielder-Charles-NZogbia-to-go-on-strike-in-attempt-to-force-Roberto-Martinez-to-sell-him.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/wigan-athletic/8650812/Wigan-Athletic-midfielder-Charles-NZogbia-to-go-on-strike-in-attempt-to-force-Roberto-Martinez-to-sell-him.html)



So he wants to move. The question is, do we really have £10mil?


 Back on topic;

 Asked on Sky Sports News if the France international was on strike he (Martinez) said: That's a new one. But no, not at all.

"I think sometimes it's all too easy for the press to speak about a player away from his daily work.

"Charlie is a perfectionist and is working really, really hard to take his personal game to a different level.

"He's been a true professional around the place. He couldn't be any further away from being on strike."

http://www.clicklancashire.com/sport/wigan-athletic-fc/1210056-wigan-athletic-boss-martinez-denies-charles-nzogbia-on-strike.html (http://www.clicklancashire.com/sport/wigan-athletic-fc/1210056-wigan-athletic-boss-martinez-denies-charles-nzogbia-on-strike.html)


 Btw, this thread has nearly reached (in views) the full capacity of Goodison Park.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gash on July 23, 2011, 01:38:47 AM
Whelan has said today that £10m will buy N'Zogbia.

Two other clubs other than Villa are very interested in signing him. One club is desperate to get him, but need to find the money. (http://newboards.tusclan.com/images/smilies/g.gif)

Obviously he wouldn't say who the clubs were.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Danny on July 23, 2011, 02:49:27 AM
Whelan has said today that £10m will buy N'Zogbia.

Two other clubs other than Villa are very interested in signing him. One club is desperate to get him, but need to find the money. (http://newboards.tusclan.com/images/smilies/g.gif)

Obviously he wouldn't say who the clubs were.

He said aswell that one of the teams are having trouble getting the money up front rather  than in installments. Wreaks of Everton.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 23, 2011, 03:47:01 AM
 Latest instalment.

 Wigan chairman Dave Whelan has revealed want-away winger Charles N'Zogbia has not travelled with the rest of the squad for their pre-season tour of Austria.

 Earlier this week, Wigan boss Roberto Martinez denied N'Zogbia had gone on strike.

 And Whelan says the winger has been training so hard that Martinez has decided to give him a couple of days off.

The Wigan owner told Sky Sports News: "(The team) have gone to Austria today but 'Zoggy' hasn't gone. He's trained so hard that the boss (Roberto Martinez) has given him a couple of days off.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_7056012,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_7056012,00.html)

 I wonder, when Bill was (last night) collecting his award, was and does Charles N'Zogbia even occupy the slightest of brain-space in his cranium.


Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: DEL PIERO on July 23, 2011, 03:53:36 AM
fingers crossed eh!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 23, 2011, 03:57:39 AM
fingers crossed eh!


                                                                                          :clap:

                                                                                           ;)

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 23, 2011, 03:58:31 AM
The Wigan owner told Sky Sports News: "(The team) have gone to Austria today but 'Zoggy' hasn't gone. He's trained so hard that the boss (Roberto Martinez) has given him a couple of days off.


Trained too hard?

Is it some sort of pre-requisite of being a chairman to chat absolute shit?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Major Clanger on July 23, 2011, 04:32:01 AM
Only 10 more.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 23, 2011, 04:35:25 AM
Only 10 more.

Million or posts? Either way he's out of our price range.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: christiffa25 on July 23, 2011, 02:23:48 PM
I think it's safe to say that the other club trying to raise funds is us. Still sounds like a decent amount up front would do the trick from what whealan is saying. Bloody could do with yak and yobo getting on there bikes. I'd be happy with N'zogbia and a type loan
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: bluedavey on July 23, 2011, 02:46:01 PM
Fuck me he cant rate him that highly if he want spend an extra 1m of his (lets say his kitty is £35m) kitty on him and would prefer them two fucking yard dogs

 I'd have to agree - he'll go to 9 but baulk at 10 - puzzling.

See McCleish said he only got enough cash for one more player (out of approximate 35million sold). Guess we not the only club skint
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: JoeHart on July 23, 2011, 02:54:45 PM
being able to splash £9 million on a player makes villa far less skint than us.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: bluedavey on July 23, 2011, 03:00:20 PM
Not when they sold 35million worth of talent to do it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Polledreng on July 23, 2011, 03:35:05 PM
Not when they sold 35million worth of talent to do it.
agree ... that seems worse than our terrible situation
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 23, 2011, 03:37:23 PM
There were 2 ITK's on the G.O.T. site,here is there latest snippet,( yesterday)

Charles N'Zogbia Update !
 


Just thought I would write a short update on the Charles N'Zogbia situation. We have been told tonight that Charles has made it known that Everton would be his preferred choice should they agree a fee with Wigan Athletic for the talented wide player. But here lies the problem as we all know !
Joseph Yobo's move to Fenerbace is on hold as the Turkey scandal continues although Yobo still expects to make the move at the moment he remains an Everton player. The expected cash had been earmarked for the N'Zogbia downpayment but obviously now that is no more. The Blues were expecting around £8-9 million for the combined sale of Yobo and his fellow countryman Yakubu but the Nigerian hitman does not want to drop into the Championship.

The frustrating thing for David Moyes and Evertonians alike is that here we have a player who wants to join us and is holding out for a move to Goodison Park, but we don't have the money to buy him. This infuriates me as surely there is a way that the club can be creative in raising the down payment ? I expect that a few of the current personel to have left the club when the window shuts on August 31 and it will be a crime if we let N'Zogbia slip through our grasp now. The information we have been told though is that at the moment we definitely need to sell before we can buy, so unless Bill Kenwright can come up with another way to pay then Charles may end up somewhere else.

Surely, the time has come for a better strategy to take the club forward ? It is all very well Robert Elstone trying to justify why we don't have any money but is it really too much to expect that the club finds money for at least 1 player the manager really wants ? Our net spend over the last 6 transfer windows is £0 ?? For a Premier League club near the top of the table ? Incredible. I for one am praying that somehow we can come up with the money by maybe offering Anichebe as a sweetener ! Or maybe its more realistic to expect Elstone and co. to earn their money and raise the necessary funds (which isn't a large amount) for the manager !

Your Thoughts ?

THT..




Your Comments
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on July 23, 2011, 03:47:47 PM
There were 2 ITK's on the G.O.T. site,here is there latest snippet,( yesterday)

Charles N'Zogbia Update !
 


Just thought I would write a short update on the Charles N'Zogbia situation. We have been told tonight that Charles has made it known that Everton would be his preferred choice should they agree a fee with Wigan Athletic for the talented wide player. But here lies the problem as we all know !
Joseph Yobo's move to Fenerbace is on hold as the Turkey scandal continues although Yobo still expects to make the move at the moment he remains an Everton player. The expected cash had been earmarked for the N'Zogbia downpayment but obviously now that is no more. The Blues were expecting around £8-9 million for the combined sale of Yobo and his fellow countryman Yakubu but the Nigerian hitman does not want to drop into the Championship.

The frustrating thing for David Moyes and Evertonians alike is that here we have a player who wants to join us and is holding out for a move to Goodison Park, but we don't have the money to buy him. This infuriates me as surely there is a way that the club can be creative in raising the down payment ? I expect that a few of the current personel to have left the club when the window shuts on August 31 and it will be a crime if we let N'Zogbia slip through our grasp now. The information we have been told though is that at the moment we definitely need to sell before we can buy, so unless Bill Kenwright can come up with another way to pay then Charles may end up somewhere else.

Surely, the time has come for a better strategy to take the club forward ? It is all very well Robert Elstone trying to justify why we don't have any money but is it really too much to expect that the club finds money for at least 1 player the manager really wants ? Our net spend over the last 6 transfer windows is £0 ?? For a Premier League club near the top of the table ? Incredible. I for one am praying that somehow we can come up with the money by maybe offering Anichebe as a sweetener ! Or maybe its more realistic to expect Elstone and co. to earn their money and raise the necessary funds (which isn't a large amount) for the manager !

Your Thoughts ?

THT..




Your Comments

We should be breaking the bank for him then, take a risk ffs. this is depressing.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 23, 2011, 03:50:04 PM
There were 2 ITK's on the G.O.T. site,here is there latest snippet,( yesterday)

Charles N'Zogbia Update !
 


Just thought I would write a short update on the Charles N'Zogbia situation. We have been told tonight that Charles has made it known that Everton would be his preferred choice should they agree a fee with Wigan Athletic for the talented wide player. But here lies the problem as we all know !
Joseph Yobo's move to Fenerbace is on hold as the Turkey scandal continues although Yobo still expects to make the move at the moment he remains an Everton player. The expected cash had been earmarked for the N'Zogbia downpayment but obviously now that is no more. The Blues were expecting around £8-9 million for the combined sale of Yobo and his fellow countryman Yakubu but the Nigerian hitman does not want to drop into the Championship.

The frustrating thing for David Moyes and Evertonians alike is that here we have a player who wants to join us and is holding out for a move to Goodison Park, but we don't have the money to buy him. This infuriates me as surely there is a way that the club can be creative in raising the down payment ? I expect that a few of the current personel to have left the club when the window shuts on August 31 and it will be a crime if we let N'Zogbia slip through our grasp now. The information we have been told though is that at the moment we definitely need to sell before we can buy, so unless Bill Kenwright can come up with another way to pay then Charles may end up somewhere else.

Surely, the time has come for a better strategy to take the club forward ? It is all very well Robert Elstone trying to justify why we don't have any money but is it really too much to expect that the club finds money for at least 1 player the manager really wants ? Our net spend over the last 6 transfer windows is £0 ?? For a Premier League club near the top of the table ? Incredible. I for one am praying that somehow we can come up with the money by maybe offering Anichebe as a sweetener ! Or maybe its more realistic to expect Elstone and co. to earn their money and raise the necessary funds (which isn't a large amount) for the manager !

Your Thoughts ?

THT.


Your Comments



still boils down to 1 thing we have no money. i wish wed forget about him or anybody its boring. because a player wants to come cant force the issue can it if u have no smoke to light the fire
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: marky v on July 23, 2011, 03:53:22 PM
Good post mate, unfortunatly our board won't invest in advance of the sales as they've used up all lines of credit, we'll just have to wait and hope,

its disgaraceful that clubs with smaller incomes than ours have spent decent figures or have tried to, I don't think I've seen a summer we've spent without flogging players first,
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 23, 2011, 03:56:33 PM
Pure conjecture yes,but the Anichebe "sweetener" the ITK mentioned sounds okay to me,Vic would be no great loss,and since the Yak /Yobo moves seem to have died a death.....worth a try
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 23, 2011, 03:58:49 PM
Pure conjecture yes,but the Anichebe "sweetener" the ITK mentioned sounds okay to me,Vic would be no great loss,and since the Yak /Yobo moves seem to have died a death.....worth a try

if they have seen anichebe play... they will shit at that prospect!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 23, 2011, 04:06:08 PM
if they have seen anichebe play... they will shit at that prospect!

Am I right in thinking Heskey played for Wigan....Listen mate Vic just like Emile cant score and falls over just like him,they'll fuckin love him.whats the problem ;D
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Padga on July 23, 2011, 04:07:30 PM
It's a shame Wigan aren't interested in either the Yak or Yobo...it's not like they've got a multitude of decent strikers, and their defence isn't exactly watertight...

But I'm guessing that Everton will have already offered that.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 23, 2011, 04:08:26 PM
There were 2 ITK's on the G.O.T. site,here is there latest snippet,( yesterday)

Charles N'Zogbia Update !
 


Just thought I would write a short update on the Charles N'Zogbia situation. We have been told tonight that Charles has made it known that Everton would be his preferred choice should they agree a fee with Wigan Athletic for the talented wide player. But here lies the problem as we all know !
Joseph Yobo's move to Fenerbace is on hold as the Turkey scandal continues although Yobo still expects to make the move at the moment he remains an Everton player. The expected cash had been earmarked for the N'Zogbia downpayment but obviously now that is no more. The Blues were expecting around £8-9 million for the combined sale of Yobo and his fellow countryman Yakubu but the Nigerian hitman does not want to drop into the Championship.

The frustrating thing for David Moyes and Evertonians alike is that here we have a player who wants to join us and is holding out for a move to Goodison Park, but we don't have the money to buy him. This infuriates me as surely there is a way that the club can be creative in raising the down payment ? I expect that a few of the current personel to have left the club when the window shuts on August 31 and it will be a crime if we let N'Zogbia slip through our grasp now. The information we have been told though is that at the moment we definitely need to sell before we can buy, so unless Bill Kenwright can come up with another way to pay then Charles may end up somewhere else.

Surely, the time has come for a better strategy to take the club forward ? It is all very well Robert Elstone trying to justify why we don't have any money but is it really too much to expect that the club finds money for at least 1 player the manager really wants ? Our net spend over the last 6 transfer windows is £0 ?? For a Premier League club near the top of the table ? Incredible. I for one am praying that somehow we can come up with the money by maybe offering Anichebe as a sweetener ! Or maybe its more realistic to expect Elstone and co. to earn their money and raise the necessary funds (which isn't a large amount) for the manager !

Your Thoughts ?

THT..




Your Comments

Oh I love a good ITK.

Seriously, a barely literate seven year old who has read 2 pages of this thread could come to this conclusion.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: efcforlife on July 23, 2011, 04:13:39 PM


still boils down to 1 thing we have no money. i wish wed forget about him or anybody its boring. because a player wants to come cant force the issue can it if u have no smoke to light the fire

I thought smoke was a by product of fire..not a component needed to light a fire

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 23, 2011, 04:21:17 PM
I thought smoke was a by product of fire..not a component needed to light a fire



love smart asses! either way hes not signing.wish people would give it up.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 23, 2011, 04:22:02 PM
Oh I love a good ITK.

Seriously, a barely literate seven year old who has read 2 pages of this thread could come to this conclusion.

Na I doubt it Craig after all who would read this bollix thread....hmmm
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 23, 2011, 04:39:37 PM
Na I doubt it Craig after all who would read this bollix thread....hmmm

I read it from page one every day. Just to get the feel for it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Azz on July 23, 2011, 05:01:26 PM
Would be a nice use for the Bellefield 10 million...whatever happened to that?

Did we actually get it...?  :s
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: EFC Elliot on July 23, 2011, 05:42:31 PM
Dave Whelan on SSN news then saying Villa are miles away with the estimate, with 2 others interested. He wouldnt name names but he said 1 of the clubs are 'madly interested' but are struggling to get the funds together. He sympathised saying £10mill is a lot. When Wigan and Whelan feel sorry for you, you know ye shite
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 23, 2011, 07:03:34 PM
I read it from page one every day. Just to get the feel for it.

Seriously Craig I think you have too much time on your hands if your doing that :snigger:,though I love your enthusiasm +1,dont think anyone has posted as many replies in this thread as you mate....But im sure you'll tell me different when you count up after tommorows re-read ;D
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: We love you Everton on July 23, 2011, 09:07:56 PM
He is not going to come to us unless we find the funds. I think he would be happy to go to Villa if they had a bid accepted for him by Wigan.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: jongre123 on July 23, 2011, 09:18:07 PM
There were 2 ITK's on the G.O.T. site,here is there latest snippet,( yesterday)

Charles N'Zogbia Update !
 


Just thought I would write a short update on the Charles N'Zogbia situation. We have been told tonight that Charles has made it known that Everton would be his preferred choice should they agree a fee with Wigan Athletic for the talented wide player. But here lies the problem as we all know !
Joseph Yobo's move to Fenerbace is on hold as the Turkey scandal continues although Yobo still expects to make the move at the moment he remains an Everton player. The expected cash had been earmarked for the N'Zogbia downpayment but obviously now that is no more. The Blues were expecting around £8-9 million for the combined sale of Yobo and his fellow countryman Yakubu but the Nigerian hitman does not want to drop into the Championship.

The frustrating thing for David Moyes and Evertonians alike is that here we have a player who wants to join us and is holding out for a move to Goodison Park, but we don't have the money to buy him. This infuriates me as surely there is a way that the club can be creative in raising the down payment ? I expect that a few of the current personel to have left the club when the window shuts on August 31 and it will be a crime if we let N'Zogbia slip through our grasp now. The information we have been told though is that at the moment we definitely need to sell before we can buy, so unless Bill Kenwright can come up with another way to pay then Charles may end up somewhere else.

Surely, the time has come for a better strategy to take the club forward ? It is all very well Robert Elstone trying to justify why we don't have any money but is it really too much to expect that the club finds money for at least 1 player the manager really wants ? Our net spend over the last 6 transfer windows is £0 ?? For a Premier League club near the top of the table ? Incredible. I for one am praying that somehow we can come up with the money by maybe offering Anichebe as a sweetener ! Or maybe its more realistic to expect Elstone and co. to earn their money and raise the necessary funds (which isn't a large amount) for the manager !

Your Thoughts ?

THT..




Your Comments

Just an idea based on the no creativity bit. Can we not arrange an agreement to pay the fee September 1st. That means we can get him in early and considering the ITK said we expect to sell to raise the money once everything is sorted out then this could a means of buying 'the zog' until then.

Again just an idea, I understand if we don't sell then we would have to find the money somehow. I also understand the problem of Wigan wanting the money early to buy a replacement but surely they can spend some money with the knowledge that with my idea they would be receiving their money for zogbia's transfer for definite.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: efcraz on July 23, 2011, 09:24:40 PM
That's only really beneficial to us though, can't imagine wigan going for it. Also, what i?? How are we going to raise 10million if  we don't sell them??
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: jongre123 on July 23, 2011, 09:27:30 PM
That's only really beneficial to us though, can't imagine wigan going for it. Also, what i?? How are we going to raise 10million if  we don't sell them??

We wouldn't, it was just an idea based on the expectation of selling them though. I'm not expecting Bill to listen to me and immediately negotiate an offer.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Shogun on July 23, 2011, 09:30:47 PM
can't we just sell yobo and swap the yak with n'zog +4m from yobo deal? seems as yakubu doesn't want to drop in the championship?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: jongre123 on July 23, 2011, 09:35:38 PM
can't we just sell yobo and swap the yak with n'zog +4m from yobo deal? seems as yakubu doesn't want to drop in the championship?

If you read the large post, then that in there lies the problem. We are trying to sell him but obviously it may take a while with the current situation. Also the comments from the ITK make it seem as though Wigan wouldn't want the Yak and I completely understand that. They have Rodallega and would most likely want to sign a replacement and get back up elsewhere.

The problem mainly is stumping up the money quickly as other teams may join the race, offer the money and get accepted. That's if we can stump up the money at all.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 23, 2011, 10:03:07 PM
can't we just sell yobo and swap the yak with n'zog +4m from yobo deal? seems as yakubu doesn't want to drop in the championship?

No-one above the championship wants Yakubu and that would value him at £6m, we'd struggle to get half that for him.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 23, 2011, 10:09:26 PM
No-one above the championship wants Yakubu and that would value him at £6m, we'd struggle to get half that for him.

This

The only reason he is still at Everton is because nobody wants the fat useless piece of shit.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: steve81 on July 23, 2011, 11:37:12 PM
Rodwell was one of the hottest prospects in English football a year ago and there was talk of Manchester United making an offer.
Jack Rodwell's Everton future is in doubt (PA) Jack Rodwell's Everton future is in doubt (PA)

The 20-year-old endured a disappointing 2010-11 campaign and Toffees boss David Moyes no longer sees him as an important part of his team.

Everton are apparently now willing to listen to offers for Rodwell - who was linked with Spurs last month - if selling the midfielder would help the club to finance their own transfer activity.

Moyes is keen to land France winger N'Zogbia, who has been given a £10 million price tag by Wigan.

That valuation has deterred his former club Newcastle United and their north-east rivals Sunderland, but new Aston Villa manager Alex McLeish is interested.

Villa have had a £9 million offer rejected, but have indicated they are not willing to make an improved bid.

Everton are not currently in a financial position to compete for N'Zogbia's signature, but Moyes and the board would be tempted to match Wigan's asking price if they can raise funds by selling Rodwell.

Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/870193-everton-want-20m-for-jack-rodwell-to-finance-move-for-wigan-star-charles-n-zogbia#ixzz1Swmad0NM (http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/870193-everton-want-20m-for-jack-rodwell-to-finance-move-for-wigan-star-charles-n-zogbia#ixzz1Swmad0NM)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 23, 2011, 11:41:30 PM
How does anyone know how Moyes sees Rodwell?

Fucking metro. Are they even considered a real paper? They give it away on the bus.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Tasslehoff on July 24, 2011, 12:58:10 AM
I have a feeling this might come off, but its a proper domino effect. Yak and/or Yobo need to go for Insomnia to come in. Last day of the window I reckon.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: efcraz on July 24, 2011, 01:25:37 AM
I have a feeling this might come off, but its a proper domino effect. Yak and/or Yobo need to go for Insomnia to come in. Last day of the window I reckon.

same here mate, getting a bit more confident this will happen to be honest
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: sharpattack on July 24, 2011, 01:27:49 AM
This

The only reason he is still at Everton is because nobody wants the fat useless piece of shit.
Well said
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: .Rimbo. on July 24, 2011, 09:25:46 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2018054/Aston-Villa-sign-Charles-NZogbia-Wigan.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2018054/Aston-Villa-sign-Charles-NZogbia-Wigan.html)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 24, 2011, 09:31:39 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2018054/Aston-Villa-sign-Charles-NZogbia-Wigan.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2018054/Aston-Villa-sign-Charles-NZogbia-Wigan.html)

Well it is the daily mail,knowing our luck though it will be right for once
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: evertonblueboys on July 24, 2011, 06:36:58 PM
his representatives have been into finch farm and remain in contact with the club , the player does want to join us,and we are his preferred option but he wont hang around to long and neither will wigan as they want the money to re-invest..

arsenal and the agent of Jay Emmanuel-Thomas have been in touch with us , he wants out of arsenal and away from london and has been offered to us as we have shown interest in the past..
Ive been told we are keen to take him as Moyes is very impressed by him and his agent quoted to me " because he tore your reserves to death and scored a worldy, which impressed moyesy and the staff".... he then went on to say we do not have the spare 1 million that Arsenal are asking , as every penny we are making is going towards signing another target , which the agent told me is probably N'zogbia..

we have also asked to be kept aware of Jay Emmanuel-Thomas' situation
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bullen14 on July 24, 2011, 06:45:52 PM
Really hope we get him! Feel sorry for moyes... Just think where he could take us, o well, coyb!! Can't wait till the start of the season!!!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 24, 2011, 06:59:37 PM
How does anyone know how Moyes sees Rodwell?

Fucking metro. Are they even considered a real paper? They give it away on the
How does anyone know how Moyes sees Rodwell?

Fucking metro. Are they even considered a real paper? They give it away on the bus.

this has got me in stitches hahaaha
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 24, 2011, 07:20:11 PM
I'm starting to think I'd have more respect for Moyes if he resigned.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 24, 2011, 07:22:59 PM
I'm starting to think I'd have more respect for Moyes if he resigned.

wtf? lay of the crack you verm.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 24, 2011, 07:23:36 PM
I'm starting to think I'd have more respect for Moyes if he resigned.

This

The fact that there is a top quality player sitting on his ass waiting for us to make a bid for him, and Kenwright continues to do fuck all about it makes me sick.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 24, 2011, 07:53:36 PM
Yeah I'd have a lot of respect for Moyes if he left us in the sh*tter as a new season was about to start.

 :bonk:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 24, 2011, 07:54:09 PM
This

The fact that there is a top quality player sitting on his ass waiting for us to make a bid for him, and Kenwright continues to do fuck all about it makes me sick.



what a fuckin ludicrous thing to say
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 24, 2011, 07:57:42 PM
what a fuckin ludicrous thing to say

What isn't a fact in that post?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 24, 2011, 08:36:01 PM
What isn't a fact in that post?

i didnt say anything was a fact. moyes should resign over not having ten mill for nzogbia? fuckin stupid stupid thing to say. im sure your an armchair fan verm (if you didnt say it i apoligise)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on July 24, 2011, 08:37:14 PM
i didnt say anything was a fact. moyes should resign over not having ten mill for nzogbia? fuckin stupid stupid thing to say. im sure your an armchair fan verm (if you didnt say it i apoligise)

where does it say moyes should resign btw?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 24, 2011, 08:37:36 PM
i didnt say anything was a fact. moyes should resign over not having ten mill for nzogbia? fuckin stupid stupid thing to say. im sure your an armchair fan verm (if you didnt say it i apoligise)

Season ticket holder of 4 years actually, get to a fair few away games too...

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 24, 2011, 08:43:22 PM
where does it say moyes should resign btw?
[/quot
Season ticket holder of 4 years actually, get to a fair few away games too...



somewere in there lol.
Season ticket holder of 4 years actually, get to a fair few away games too...



my apolgies :)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 24, 2011, 09:07:37 PM
Moyes has certainly faced greater frustrations here than not being able to buy N'Zogbia. But, who knows, one of these days something like that could prove the final straw.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: JoeHart on July 24, 2011, 09:22:56 PM
Moyes has certainly faced greater frustrations here than not being able to buy N'Zogbia. But, who knows, one of these days something like that could prove the final straw.

most managers only walk if either
a. they are forced to sell someone they dont want to leave
or
b. the club buys players on their behalf they dont want or rate.

kevin keegan had both at newcaslte (selling milner and buying xisco) and rightly walked.

martin o'neill among other factors, left becasue he was being told to lower the huge villa wage bill and as no one wanted the crap players on big money (luke young, curtis davies, etc) it would have to be one of his stars - he wouldnt stand for it, so walked.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 24, 2011, 09:27:28 PM
what a fuckin ludicrous thing to say

How is it?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 24, 2011, 10:23:15 PM
How is it?
[/quote

 because it is
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 24, 2011, 11:06:40 PM
How is it?
[/quote

 because it is



Why do you bother posting here?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Azz on July 24, 2011, 11:24:20 PM
Since when was N'Zogbia sitting around waiting for us to bid for him?  He's still training for Wigan, as soon as any club, doesn't matter if it's us, Villa or some one else, have a bid accepted then he will talk to them.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: sharpattack on July 24, 2011, 11:29:52 PM
Maybe Moyes doesnt want N'Zogbia. Anyone considered that?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 24, 2011, 11:36:59 PM


Why do you bother posting here?
[/quote


because i can
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: nebs on July 24, 2011, 11:41:19 PM
Maybe Moyes doesnt want N'Zogbia. Anyone considered that?

No.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 24, 2011, 11:42:49 PM
Maybe Moyes doesnt want N'Zogbia. Anyone considered that?

Oh man...couldn't you have mentioned that 70 pages ago?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: jongre123 on July 25, 2011, 12:11:39 AM
Oh man...couldn't you have mentioned that 70 pages ago?

but it's been blatantly mentioned that he does.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: dekko on July 25, 2011, 12:30:40 AM
but it's been blatantly mentioned that he does.

Did anyone see him saying so?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: jongre123 on July 25, 2011, 12:34:58 AM
Did anyone see him saying so?

Why does he need to? We've clearly been interested and have been in touch according to several ITKs and journalists.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: dekko on July 25, 2011, 12:38:09 AM
Why does he need to? We've clearly been interested and have been in touch according to several ITKs and journalists.

we've been interested in about 100 players this summer according to several ITKs and journalists.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 25, 2011, 12:43:06 AM
How is it?
[/quote

 because it is

Why are you even still alive.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: jongre123 on July 25, 2011, 12:45:51 AM
we've been interested in about 100 players this summer according to several ITKs and journalists.

Wrong, the real ITKs have only mentioned two names, Ba and N'Zogbia. I'm not going to go through the reasons for Ba again and the N'Zogbia interest and quotes from the real ITKs have already been mentioned in this thread.

I don't why I am having to even go over this to be fair, it's all here in this thread. Read through the whole 70 pages if you have to.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: jongre123 on July 25, 2011, 12:47:01 AM
Why are you even still alive.

because he is.

Why has this thread resorted to childish arguments?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: dekko on July 25, 2011, 12:50:40 AM
Wrong, the real ITKs have only mentioned two names, Ba and N'Zogbia. I'm not going to go through the reasons for Ba again and the N'Zogbia interest and quotes from the real ITKs have already been mentioned in this thread.

I don't why I am having to even go over this to be fair, it's all here in this thread. Read through the whole 70 pages if you have to.

Please name me real ITKs.
and you were the one who wrote "and journalists". so, according to journalists we have been interested in a shit loads of players.
Villa will probably buy him and Moyes could end up saying we were never interested in him, it was just rumours.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 25, 2011, 12:52:55 AM
because he is.

Why has this thread resorted to childish arguments?

He started it
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: jongre123 on July 25, 2011, 12:56:23 AM
Please name me real ITKs.
and you were the one who wrote "and journalists". so, according to journalists we have been interested in a shit loads of players.
Villa will probably buy him and Moyes could end up saying we were never interested in him, it was just rumours.

Yes but the journalists have not mentioned a player as much as N'Zogbia and ran continuous stories saying we are interested/trying to sell someone to finance a move for 'insert player name here' unlike they have with Zogs. Like I say it's here in this thread, read it.

He's not going to do that because WE are CLEARLY interested in buying him.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 25, 2011, 01:02:25 AM
I'm starting to think I'd have more respect for Moyes if he resigned.

So rather than a manager trying his hardest to prove money is not everything and build a side of a mixture of youth and small transfers you would respect him for walking away??

Fuck me
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 25, 2011, 01:02:48 AM
because he is.

Why has this thread resorted to childish arguments?

theres no need atall for you ram. your a horrible horrible little prick
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: dekko on July 25, 2011, 01:05:59 AM
So rather than a manager trying his hardest to prove money is not everything and build a side of a mixture of youth and small transfers you would respect him for walking away??

Fuck me

I agree.  I think that was a bad comment.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: nebs on July 25, 2011, 01:12:06 AM
Yes but the journalists have not mentioned a player as much as N'Zogbia and ran continuous stories saying we are interested/trying to sell someone to finance a move for 'insert player name here' unlike they have with Zogs. Like I say it's here in this thread, read it.

He's not going to do that because WE are CLEARLY interested in buying him.




You wouldn't bet your life on it, but I'm confident that he is Moyes' number 1 target.

The coming week will see it end, I reckon. Moyes gets back from the States and allegedly Villa are ready to match Wigan's price. We either do the same or look elsewhere.

Actually, we won't look elsewhere. I'm equally confident this was all was about getting rid of Yobo and Yakubu. Looks like they're going nowhere at the moment.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 25, 2011, 02:03:20 AM
theres no need atall for you ram. your a horrible horrible little prick

LOL

What a gimp.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 25, 2011, 02:06:00 AM
LOL

What a gimp.

gimp? your looking in the mirror to much you little runt. jog on now your borin
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 25, 2011, 02:06:38 AM
Now now children
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 25, 2011, 02:07:31 AM
gimp? your looking in the mirror to much you little runt. jog on now your borin

Shit comeback
Title: Stickler
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 25, 2011, 02:09:12 AM
gimp? your looking in the mirror to much you little runt. jog on now your borin

You're*
too*
you're*
boring*
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 25, 2011, 02:19:07 AM
there needs to be a block button on here... so u can block certain people!!!!!!! (no names like :whistle:)
Title: Lonley Boy
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 25, 2011, 02:28:22 AM
there needs to be a block button on here... so u can block certain people!!!!!!! (no names like :whistle:)


would you not get lonely with nobody replying to your posts though?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 25, 2011, 02:29:38 AM

would you not get lonely with nobody replying to your posts though?

TIT
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 25, 2011, 02:46:37 AM
So rather than a manager trying his hardest to prove money is not everything and build a side of a mixture of youth and small transfers you would respect him for walking away??

Fuck me

Or, if you weren't so blindly optimistic you could look at it from the other side;

A manager put in an impossible situation where he is expected to finish in the top half with what is probably the lowest budget in the league but at the same time he earns a good wage.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 25, 2011, 04:10:05 AM
Or, if you weren't so blindly optimistic you could look at it from the other side;

A manager put in an impossible situation where he is expected to finish in the top half with what is probably the lowest budget in the league but at the same time he earns a good wage.

Your a young lad verm yes? If you wanna put your respect in people who walk away from challenges thats your choice.

I would have no respect for a man who walks away from a 60k a week contract just because things are difficult
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: cantoffee on July 25, 2011, 04:15:23 AM
Or, if you weren't so blindly optimistic you could look at it from the other side;

A manager put in an impossible situation where he is expected to finish in the top half with what is probably the lowest budget in the league but at the same time he earns a good wage.

It's not the lowest budget in the league. If you added all of our expenses together, including our moderately large wage bill, we'd be somewhere between 8th and 10th.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: GNSNOEFC on July 25, 2011, 04:16:21 AM
 lolol lolol at this current page
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 25, 2011, 04:25:14 AM
lolol lolol at this current page


Agreed. One of the best pages in the thread.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 25, 2011, 05:31:58 AM
Your a young lad verm yes? If you wanna put your respect in people who walk away from challenges thats your choice.

I would have no respect for a man who walks away from a 60k a week contract just because things are difficult

I would respect a man who accepts he has done all he can possibly do and has put his all into a job.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Connavar on July 25, 2011, 06:58:18 AM
A block button? That just negates the point of a forum. Agree with people or not, blocking their opinions is just ignorant. There was another person on here a while back that used to do that. He turned out to be one of the biggest douchebags that's ever posted on here. Don't fall into his trap.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: .Rimbo. on July 25, 2011, 09:51:50 AM
9:36
Speculation: Everton chairman Bill Kenwright has been spotted holding talks regarding Charles N’Zogbia with Wigan owner Dave Whelan, according to our rumour room. To check out the latest gossip and have your say, click here.

On the SkySports Transfer Clockwatch.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: christiffa25 on July 25, 2011, 01:16:01 PM
Hopefully he's going with his fingers crossed that wigan will take Chang beer tokens!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: bluedavey on July 25, 2011, 01:55:02 PM
Skysports really has gone down hill. I know this posted in 'rumour room' but there was a time you could take there word as gospel. Now they worse then the Sun/Mail etc.....

Would like to know who spotted them though, maybe secret handshake, one trouser leg rolled up.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: .Rimbo. on July 25, 2011, 02:40:09 PM
I'm not too clued up on the ins and outs of it, but wouldn't it more than likely be the representatives of each club meeting as opposed to both Chairmen?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: bigl1cks on July 25, 2011, 02:45:52 PM
http://m.skysports.com/article/sports//7060424 (http://m.skysports.com/article/sports//7060424)

Oh well
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: ForzaItalia on July 25, 2011, 03:10:35 PM
http://m.skysports.com/article/sports//7060424 (http://m.skysports.com/article/sports//7060424)

Oh well

Well I for one am shocked.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 25, 2011, 03:19:07 PM
He is still signing for us, make no mistake.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 25, 2011, 03:38:11 PM
Must have been randy not bill that was spotted
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: bigl1cks on July 25, 2011, 03:54:02 PM
No it would have been bill, he's totally fucked up any deal.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: STUBBSY157 on July 25, 2011, 04:51:09 PM
Bye Bye Charles  :(


Gutted....

Villa have had a £9.5m bid accepted.... We just cant compete  :(
Title: Bye Bye Charles
Post by: STUBBSY157 on July 25, 2011, 04:52:05 PM
Villa have had a £9.5m bid accepted   :(


Gutted...  :(
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: kunal32 on July 25, 2011, 04:52:29 PM
Can this thread be finally put to bed now! A waste of 70 pages!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: bluedavey on July 25, 2011, 04:54:40 PM
We can't even afford Andy Lonergan, never really stood much of a chance.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: toffee_scot on July 25, 2011, 04:55:20 PM
I'm suprised this thread even got more than 7 pages.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Charles
Post by: top flight for a long time on July 25, 2011, 05:20:44 PM
Well that probably means we won't be selling anyone then.
Title: who?
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 25, 2011, 05:21:16 PM
who?
Title: Re: Bye Bye Charles
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on July 25, 2011, 05:22:00 PM
Everton fc = a fuckin joke!
Title: Re: Bye Bye Charles
Post by: Gray90 on July 25, 2011, 05:23:33 PM
Everton board in being fucking useless shocker.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Charles
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2011, 05:24:10 PM
Thank god for that.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: bluedavey on July 25, 2011, 05:24:32 PM
I think all the players and coaching staff should give up 1 weeks wages as a kind gesture to us fans seeing as we suffer so much and he managed to get a 73 page thread of us wanting him (admittedly not always on topic). This kind gesture would also be good for them and allow us a better team and hence improve their chances of receiving winning bonuses etc!!! We could then  go but down payment on N'Zog!!!

Obviously only joking for those ready to pounce!!!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: bluedavey on July 25, 2011, 05:27:42 PM
Actually a months wages!!!!! I better go back to drawing board.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Charles
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 25, 2011, 05:43:26 PM
Did we ever actually have any evidence that we were in for him in the first place? People need to wind their necks in and get a grip.
Title: Re: Bye Bye Charles
Post by: Connavar on July 25, 2011, 05:46:15 PM
Did we ever actually have any evidence that we were in for him in the first place? People need to wind their necks in and get a grip.

It was widely reported that we were his preferred option. When asked at the Bury game about the possibilty of signing N'Zogbia, Moyes replied "I wish". That may be proof enough, but there is no smoke without fire, and N'Zogbia has been linked with us for too long in the rags for it to just be speculation.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 25, 2011, 05:59:48 PM
I appreciate Wigan holding out for as long as they have (probably for the players sake more than our own).

We have probably confirmed to them there's no money available so they have gone and accepted the Villa offer.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: christiffa25 on July 25, 2011, 06:02:19 PM
Everton fc board are a disgrace!!!!!

Villa agreed fee.... Brilliant!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: sharpattack on July 25, 2011, 06:31:37 PM
Did we ever actually have any evidence that we were in for him in the first place? People need to wind their necks in and get a grip.
Well said.74 pages of shite based on a groundless rumour
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: nebs on July 25, 2011, 06:42:32 PM
Well said.74 pages of shite based on a groundless rumour

Yeah, I mean why would anyone discuss a rumour that has been reported almost daily in every single newspaper and sports related publication for the past month? It makes no sense.

Idiot!  :bonk:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 25, 2011, 06:46:17 PM
mid table, here we come!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 25, 2011, 06:50:34 PM
mid table, here we come!

So Nzog is the difference between mid table and what? Upper mid table?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: nebs on July 25, 2011, 06:53:25 PM
So Nzog is the difference between mid table and what? Upper mid table?

That was the plan. You spend £10m on a player, not because he is good looking, but because signing him potentially improves the team, which subsequently leads to an improved showing in the league.

That's football, mate!  nod
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: AidyEFC9 on July 25, 2011, 06:55:11 PM
Totally clutching at straws i know, but could this give us hope?.


sampatricklyon Sam Lyon - Looks like Aston Villa are on the verge of signing Charles N'Zogbia for £9.5m from Wigan. Only a late bid from elsewhere can scupper it.


He's a BBC Sports Journo so maybe knows something we don't, would seem to back up what ITK's on other forums are saying that N'Zogbia prefers us IF that statement from him means us, but i'd imagine it's a massive if!.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 25, 2011, 07:09:46 PM
Totally clutching at straws i know, but could this give us hope?.


sampatricklyon Sam Lyon - Looks like Aston Villa are on the verge of signing Charles N'Zogbia for £9.5m from Wigan. Only a late bid from elsewhere can scupper it.


He's a BBC Sports Journo so maybe knows something we don't, would seem to back up what ITK's on other forums are saying that N'Zogbia prefers us IF that statement from him means us, but i'd imagine it's a massive if!.

no offence mate but woudnt we have bid already ?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 25, 2011, 07:22:44 PM
That was the plan. You spend £10m on a player, not because he is good looking, but because signing him potentially improves the team, which subsequently leads to an improved showing in the league.

That's football, mate!  nod

It doesn't always work like that though does it.

Pienaar is a better player than Osman, but when Pienaar left and Osman played more often our results were much better.

My point was that verm reckons without Nzogbia we will finish mid table. He can't qualify that statement though, its a big assumption.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 25, 2011, 07:25:40 PM
Have we signed him yet?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 25, 2011, 07:26:10 PM
no offence mate but woudnt we have bid already ?

No, bill is still coppering up. Only 2 whisky jars to go....
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 25, 2011, 07:28:16 PM
No, bill is still coppering up. Only 2 whisky jars to go....

I got a tub of coppers on my desk in work, I can be in Liverpool within the hour...... Hope this helps
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: BootleBlueBoy on July 25, 2011, 07:29:07 PM
bill is gettin every penny he can down the back of the couch
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: christiffa25 on July 25, 2011, 07:52:02 PM
Don't know why I really should know better but does anyone else keep expecting sky news update that....

Toffee's join N'zogbia race and have also had a bid accepted?!?!



Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: BootleBlueBoy on July 25, 2011, 07:56:02 PM
Don't know why I really should know better but does anyone else keep expecting sky news update that....

Toffee's join N'zogbia race and have also had a bid accepted?!?!



it just aint gunna happen
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: AidyEFC9 on July 25, 2011, 08:05:04 PM
no offence mate but wouldn't we have bid already ?


How do you know we haven't though?. Im not saying we definitely have but how does anyone know that we haven't put a bid to em and offered what little we have as a down payment and the Wigan chairman as said no, its not good enough and we've turned round and said were struggling for the finance atm and will need to get rid of one or two players to be able to match what Dave Whelan wants?.

After all, he did admit himself to SSN that one club was seriously interested but struggling for the finance. No body truly knows whats gone on behind closed doors, maybe we did make a bid and it wasn't good enough as Wigan want x amount upfront and we could only offer a certain amount, you just don't know do ya?!.

I mean i cant see it tbh but things like that do happen, clubs do try there luck when in a position like ours.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: AidyEFC9 on July 25, 2011, 08:07:51 PM
Don't know why I really should know better but does anyone else keep expecting sky news update that....

Toffee's join N'zogbia race and have also had a bid accepted?!?!






Hahaha it ain't going to happen mate but i thought along those lines when i first saw that Villa had agreed a fee, i thought to myself, 'go on Everton, suprise us!'. But it'll never happen.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 25, 2011, 08:08:06 PM
It doesn't always work like that though does it.

Pienaar is a better player than Osman, but when Pienaar left and Osman played more often our results were much better.

My point was that verm reckons without Nzogbia we will finish mid table. He can't qualify that statement though, its a big assumption.

Not without N'zogbia specifically, just without any improvements to the team.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 25, 2011, 08:40:42 PM
Kenwright should be phoning up and down the country tring to offload Yobo and The Yak to get this fella, but he wont. He really is what we need to finish top six imo, just look at what happened to us when we had a proper winger in Donovan here.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: AidyEFC9 on July 25, 2011, 08:48:40 PM
Kenwright should be phoning up and down the country trying to offload Yobo and The Yak to get this fella, but he wont. He really is what we need to finish top six imo, just look at what happened to us when we had a proper winger in Donovan here.


Exactly, and he actually wasnt an out-an-out winger. A bit of pace in midfield and we was better at countering teams and hitting em quickly on the break. We lack real pace and directness from midfield or wide areas and are counter attacking play is a little stiffled at times and we cant hurt teams or unlock defences enough on the break.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 25, 2011, 08:51:15 PM

Exactly, and he actually wasnt an out-an-out winger. A bit of pace in midfield and we was better at countering teams and hitting em quickly on the break. We lack real pace and directness from midfield or wide areas and are counter attacking play is a little stiffled at times and we cant hurt teams or unlock defences enough on the break.

100% our lack of pace is fucking criminal.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2011, 08:59:42 PM

Exactly, and he actually wasnt an out-an-out winger. A bit of pace in midfield and we was better at countering teams and hitting em quickly on the break. We lack real pace and directness from midfield or wide areas and are counter attacking play is a little stiffled at times and we cant hurt teams or unlock defences enough on the break.

Coleman is pacy and direct.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 25, 2011, 09:02:34 PM
Coleman is pacy and direct.

His future is at right back for me.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: marky v on July 25, 2011, 09:32:33 PM
Now that he's off to Villa should we have this moved to other football chat?

On the Coleman point, i would rather we improve his defensive side and make him a top right back unfortunatly i see another defender playing in the midfield for Everton for years to come
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Azz on July 25, 2011, 10:03:10 PM
This

The fact that there is a top quality player sitting on his ass waiting for us to make a bid for him, and Kenwright continues to do fuck all about it makes me sick.




Charles N'Zogbia: "There are many rumours are saying many things, but my transfer to Aston Villa is not done. 'The possibility of playing at #AVFC I like. I would be happy because I like to play in a club with more aspirations than Wigan"


Not exactly sitting on his ass waiting for us is he.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 25, 2011, 10:13:09 PM

Charles N'Zogbia: "There are many rumours are saying many things, but my transfer to Aston Villa is not done. 'The possibility of playing at #AVFC I like. I would be happy because I like to play in a club with more aspirations than Wigan"


Not exactly sitting on his ass waiting for us is he.

That's us definitely out then.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2011, 10:19:56 PM
His future is at right back for me.

For me too, but the point was we need someone pacy and direct to open up defences and he is this, yet it hasn't helped a lot.

Just playing devil's advocate.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Shogun on July 25, 2011, 10:28:04 PM
everton with two attacking full backs? nah.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: plumber on July 25, 2011, 10:34:15 PM
That's us definitely out then.

Why are you spreading shit like this?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Amata on July 25, 2011, 10:38:49 PM
Villa's team is worse than Wigan's.  He would be better off waiting out the rest of the year and chosing where he wants to go as he will only be fighting another relegation battle next year.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on July 25, 2011, 10:40:49 PM
What?

Wigan were saying we were more interested than we actually were, who'd have thought.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: nebs on July 25, 2011, 10:42:48 PM
Still a bit of mileage in this thread:

http://www.football365.com/transfer-blog/7060383/Live-Transfer-Blog- (http://www.football365.com/transfer-blog/7060383/Live-Transfer-Blog-)

"13.51: A twist in the N'Zogbia tale? We're reading rumours that Everton may have matched Villa's £9.5m bid for the Wigan winger. Interesting - not least where they are getting the money from (if true, of course).
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Amata on July 25, 2011, 10:45:50 PM
I just cant believe we have all these mega rich people involved in Everton and not one of them can give Moyes £9 mill until Yak and Yobo are sold.  Its a disgrace
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: nebs on July 25, 2011, 11:48:59 PM
http://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/36899-Dave-Whelan-on-SSN/page13 (http://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/36899-Dave-Whelan-on-SSN/page13)

Saying we have put in a cash offer which has been accepted.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 25, 2011, 11:50:51 PM
http://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/36899-Dave-Whelan-on-SSN/page13 (http://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/36899-Dave-Whelan-on-SSN/page13)

Saying we have put in a cash offer which has been accepted.

Could explain why Moyes is allegedly in hiding. He robbed a bank to get the cash.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: jongre123 on July 25, 2011, 11:51:35 PM
http://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/36899-Dave-Whelan-on-SSN/page13 (http://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/36899-Dave-Whelan-on-SSN/page13)

Saying we have put in a cash offer which has been accepted.

You do realise Chico is known for being a WUM.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: nebs on July 25, 2011, 11:54:19 PM
You do realise Chico is known for being a WUM.

Definitely know Chico's cheeky style.  ;D

Just passing the info on. This thread can't die until he's definitely signed for Villa.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: andrei on July 26, 2011, 12:06:22 AM
it died a long time ago pal.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: nebs on July 26, 2011, 12:08:53 AM
it died a long time ago pal.

Oh, right. Thanks, pal.  :thumbsup:

What's the word on the other stuff, then?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on July 26, 2011, 12:24:30 AM
Some of you (Jimmy the whack, Aidy and Verms in particular) need to get your emotions in check.

The idea of spending close to 10m on a quite average player when we have Billy who can play there and the emregence of Gueye in pre season is frankly astounding.

We need a striker as a matter of absolute priority and if we have anything left after that a right winger is also a far greater concern to me.

You should give up going skiing on each other over the lad.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 26, 2011, 12:33:04 AM
Some of you (Jimmy the whack, Aidy and Verms in particular) need to get your emotions in check.

The idea of spending close to 10m on a quite average player when we have Billy who can play there and the emregence of Gueye in pre season is frankly astounding.

We need a striker as a matter of absolute priority and if we have anything left after that a right winger is also a far greater concern to me.

You should give up going skiing on each other over the lad.

Not quite sure how I managed to get on that list but ok
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Amata on July 26, 2011, 12:33:33 AM
Some of you (Jimmy the whack, Aidy and Verms in particular) need to get your emotions in check.

The idea of spending close to 10m on a quite average player when we have Billy who can play there and the emregence of Gueye in pre season is frankly astounding.

We need a striker as a matter of absolute priority and if we have anything left after that a right winger is also a far greater concern to me.

You should give up going skiing on each other over the lad.

Im torn over the striker/winger issue.  We need a quality striker but strikers need decent service and at the moment our midfield badly lacks the creativity to do this.  N'Zogbia would provide the width, creativity and also the pace we have been crying out for whilst also chipping in with goals.  I think with him in the team we would be more potent than with another striker and the same midfield.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on July 26, 2011, 12:39:03 AM
If we put a bid in at 13.51 it would be all over ssn by now!, let it go lads
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 26, 2011, 12:43:05 AM
If we put a bid in at 13.51 it would be all over ssn by now!, let it go lads

Shhhh. It's a secret bid! They're the best kind.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on July 26, 2011, 12:52:34 AM
Not quite sure how I managed to get on that list but ok

Because you, along with others have been ripping your cocks off whilst ramming yourself with anal beads  at the thought of him coming here.

I suspect a lot of it is down to the fact you'd just like to see us spend 10m to satisfy yourself that we're still able to do it than it is to see us sign a player who's worth that.

Let Villa spend twice as much as they need to. Imo they're worried that if they let N'Zogbia run his contract out they'd be usurped by someone like us or Sunderland or the like for a 3m bid in 5 months time.

Dry ya eyes and move on pal.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 26, 2011, 01:10:21 AM
Not sure where you get that opinion from but fair enough
As I have said elsewhere on this thread admittedly 50 pages ago would have been a good signing but wont lose any sleep about him not coming
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on July 26, 2011, 01:13:29 AM
its just the principal of if we wer madly interested in him that we couldnt even scrape a bid together thats depressing, 9.5mill for a player of his quality is very cheap in todays market
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 26, 2011, 01:16:21 AM
its just the principal of if we wer madly interested in him that we couldnt even scrape a bid together thats depressing, 9.5mill for a player of his quality is very cheap in todays market

In the last year of his contract, is it?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on July 26, 2011, 01:18:10 AM
In the last year of his contract, is it?

didnt know that but suppose so then, but still a relatively cheap price, fuckin hell if ya payin 10mill for billy then nzogbia is basically messi compared to him
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: richsingo on July 26, 2011, 01:19:19 AM
Im torn over the striker/winger issue.  We need a quality striker but strikers need decent service and at the moment our midfield badly lacks the creativity to do this.  N'Zogbia would provide the width, creativity and also the pace we have been crying out for whilst also chipping in with goals.  I think with him in the team we would be more potent than with another striker and the same midfield.

This.

"N'Zogbia would provide the width, creativity and also the pace we have been crying out for whilst also chipping in with goals."

And £9.5m seems fair/going rate for last 12 mnth of contract.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 26, 2011, 01:23:06 AM
This.

"N'Zogbia would provide the width, creativity and also the pace we have been crying out for whilst also chipping in with goals."

And £9.5m seems fair/going rate for last 12 mnth of contract.

So he is over 3 times the player Pienaar is?  Not convinced on that one.  He is a good player like.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 26, 2011, 01:25:36 AM
didnt know that but suppose so then, but still a relatively cheap price, fuckin hell if ya payin 10mill for billy then nzogbia is basically messi compared to him

Don't be ridiculous.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 26, 2011, 01:27:44 AM
9.5 is way too steep for a player in his final 12 months. But Wigan know clubs are desperate and some soft arse will pay it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Shogun on July 26, 2011, 01:40:27 AM
So he is over 3 times the player Pienaar is?  Not convinced on that one.  He is a good player like.
pienaar only had 6 months left
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 26, 2011, 01:41:17 AM
pienaar only had 6 months left

Twice the player then?  Still not convinced.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on July 26, 2011, 01:59:28 AM
pienaar only had 6 months left

Which is exactly why we did the right thing not bidding for him just now.

Im surprised Lerner has sanctioned the sale just now knowing his price will at least half by the time January gets here.

We dont have 10m to go chucking about on players like N'Zogbia pal. He's not worth that with 4 years left on his contract, never mind 1.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: plumber on July 26, 2011, 02:20:26 AM
Twice the player then?  Still not convinced.
Insomnia is 4 years younger.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on July 26, 2011, 02:25:30 AM
Insomnia is 4 years younger.
But he is 3 years older than one particular winger.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 26, 2011, 02:32:52 AM
But he is 3 years older than one particular winger.  :whistle:

Ha, you have hit a rich vein of form lately!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: richsingo on July 26, 2011, 02:33:14 AM
Piennar & Nzogbia are different players. So many different ways to view it, but I would suggest Piennar could hold the ball and track back; Nzogbia has pace, attacks, scored 10? goals for a poor Wigan team & only 25, still improving.

Don't have stats to hand for assists, anyone know? Would be interested to see.

So I would say contract/age/attacking  player with goals - £9.5m in this market is fine by me.

Should we blow it all on one player given were skint? Close call, but in this case AND assuming we keep either 1 of Rodwell/Felli then yes, gives squad balance and attacking options
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: ihatecollina on July 26, 2011, 04:04:34 AM
We will sign this guy... mark my words!!!!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on July 26, 2011, 04:05:59 AM
We will sign this guy... mark my words!!!!
0/10
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: JoeHart on July 26, 2011, 04:06:18 AM
We will sign this guy... mark my words!!!!

nope your right.
With Arteta having a stinker of a season in that stupid defensive role, their was NO creativity in the midfield.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Shogun on July 26, 2011, 04:07:32 AM
We will sign this guy... mark my words!!!!
marked them all(including the spaces) your welcome :)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: ihatecollina on July 26, 2011, 04:09:22 AM
marked them all(including the spaces) your welcome :)

Nice one...lol
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: efcforlife on July 26, 2011, 04:19:14 AM
9.5 is way too steep for a player in his final 12 months. But Wigan know clubs are desperate and some soft arse will pay it.

exactly..

what do we do? stand on our own on our moral high horse and never sign a player?

thats how top european football has gone and we have to accept we will have to pay what other teams pay in order to compete with them..

Moyes has worked miracles and it cant last forever
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 26, 2011, 06:42:35 AM
Just seen his stats on SSN not really that impressive tbh.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 26, 2011, 07:45:46 AM
I think he has improved in the last couple of seasons.

But anyhow let's not kid ourselves he's a good player who would improve our starting XI. But we don't have the money.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: JoeHart on July 26, 2011, 08:11:49 AM
He played last season under Martinez

Martinez a manager who makes David Moyes brand of football look exciting.

Hei s awful Martinez, will take wigan down next season if he lasts the full season.
Plays the most dire brand of defensive, containment slow football.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: christiffa25 on July 26, 2011, 04:09:11 PM
I was all for bringing N'zogbia in but I am starting to question whether at 9.5M maybe he should be swerved whether we can raise the money or not. At that money do we all really think he would be an excellent signing that needs to be made or were doomed or is it a case of desperation of us just wanting our club to make a significant signing?!?!

I have no idea who else could be available across Europe but just maybe moyes does? Maybe we have really been interested in him at that kind of money? Keeping an eye on the situation maybe but based on a lot lesser fee?

One player mentioned in rumours was Lewis holtby at around 6M. Now for me I would much prefer that deal to N'zogbia. Maybe we will still get our pacey winger and it will be a nice surprise. Fingers crossed N'zogbia going villa may be one we look back on as a good thing.

Trying to be positive this morning.... COYB !!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: plumber on July 26, 2011, 04:15:56 PM
He played last season under Martinez

Martinez a manager who makes David Moyes brand of football look exciting.

Hei s awful Martinez, will take wigan down next season if he lasts the full season.
Plays the most dire brand of defensive, containment slow football.



This post perfectly shows your knowledge of football and what a tool you are.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on July 26, 2011, 05:46:51 PM
1 hour! Getting lazy boys, might aswell make it to 100 pages come onn!!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: .Rimbo. on July 26, 2011, 08:42:31 PM
Which is exactly why we did the right thing not bidding for him just now.

Im surprised Lerner has sanctioned the sale just now knowing his price will at least half by the time January gets here.

We dont have 10m to go chucking about on players like N'Zogbia pal. He's not worth that with 4 years left on his contract, never mind 1.

 lolol The boy's got everything we need. With four years on his contract, he'd be definitely worth £10 million.

It's a massive loss to be honest, don't give a shit about the summer now. Was pinning my hopes on that one. Sell Yobo and Yakubu and we won't get a player in with half of what N'Zogbia would've offered us. Oh well...
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Krissy on July 26, 2011, 10:04:58 PM
Ive got a feeling we may still nick Zoggy backdoor from under Villa's noses at the last minute...come on Everton, come on...
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Tinga on July 26, 2011, 10:08:07 PM
Ive got a feeling we may still nick Zoggy backdoor from under Villa's noses at the last minute...come on Everton, come on...

It's best not to get your hopes up with Everton, it just ends in disappointment.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: nebs on July 26, 2011, 10:18:17 PM
It's best not to get your hopes up with Everton, it just ends in disappointment.

Have some faith ffs! When has Bill ever let us down?  :tit:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: ihatecollina on July 27, 2011, 03:55:21 AM
Ive got a feeling we may still nick Zoggy backdoor from under Villa's noses at the last minute...come on Everton, come on...

This
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on July 27, 2011, 04:08:03 AM
Ive got a feeling we may still nick Zoggy backdoor from under Villa's noses at the last minute...come on Everton, come on...

[admin]Jokes about dead footballers aren't funny.[/admin]
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 27, 2011, 04:10:14 AM
 
[admin]Jokes about dead footballers aren't funny.[/admin]

 ??? :hmph: :wag:

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: kunal32 on July 27, 2011, 04:22:52 AM
[admin]Jokes about dead footballers aren't funny.[/admin]

C'mon mate that's below the belt.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on July 27, 2011, 04:31:52 AM
lolol The boy's got everything we need. With four years on his contract, he'd be definitely worth £10 million.

It's a massive loss to be honest, don't give a shit about the summer now. Was pinning my hopes on that one. Sell Yobo and Yakubu and we won't get a player in with half of what N'Zogbia would've offered us. Oh well...

Not for me pal.

Let me be clear, im not saying he's a bad player, he's had a good couple of seasons at Wigan. But it could quite possibly be big fish little pond syndrome that's brought that out in him as he was frankly awful at Newcastle with 50 thousand geordies screamin at you every week (rightly or wrongly, there's defintiely a big game atmosphere there)

Of course his form there could have been down to age but he was beyond poor for his entire stay there.

He has attributes we do need i'll grant you but Billy still deserves a chance there, and the french poof is also looking promising in pre-season.

There are 2, possibly 3 positions that we should be looking to bring in improvements on what we've got before we look to sign a LW imo.

But I honestly dont think he's worth the 9.5m Villa have paid for him, he's not THAT good at what he does. He doesn't turn his RB inside out for 90 minutes week in week out. He goes past his man well but his final delivery is often poor.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Confucius on July 27, 2011, 04:43:09 AM
[admin]Jokes about dead footballers aren't funny.[/admin]

Uncalled for mate
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 27, 2011, 05:03:21 AM
Do you think we'll hit 100 pages before he signs for Villa?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on July 27, 2011, 05:12:56 AM
No.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 27, 2011, 05:43:45 AM
No.

Really?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Azz on July 27, 2011, 06:14:59 AM
He's having his medical at Villa today so I'm guessing he'll sign as well.  20 pages in ~14 hours... hmmmm.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on July 27, 2011, 06:30:56 AM
Really?
Yes.

I'd stake my reputation for accuracy in predictions, on it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Rhys on July 27, 2011, 06:39:04 AM
Not for me pal.

Let me be clear, im not saying he's a bad player, he's had a good couple of seasons at Wigan. But it could quite possibly be big fish little pond syndrome that's brought that out in him as he was frankly awful at Newcastle with 50 thousand geordies screamin at you every week (rightly or wrongly, there's defintiely a big game atmosphere there)

Of course his form there could have been down to age but he was beyond poor for his entire stay there.

He has attributes we do need i'll grant you but Billy still deserves a chance there, and the french poof is also looking promising in pre-season.

There are 2, possibly 3 positions that we should be looking to bring in improvements on what we've got before we look to sign a LW imo.

But I honestly dont think he's worth the 9.5m Villa have paid for him, he's not THAT good at what he does. He doesn't turn his RB inside out for 90 minutes week in week out. He goes past his man well but his final delivery is often poor.

I'm pretty confident we would play him on the right wing and that is a position we need. I think Moyes wants him on the right, Arteta on the left with Fellaini, Cahill and Osman/Rodwell in the middle. Good midfield.

Of course he is hit and miss, delivery often lacking but he offers something we dont have aside from pace. The ability to change a game with a great run, a terrific shot and of course some pace to play on the counter attack. Last season there were too many games when we couldnt break defensive teams down. Where they sat back and we didnt have the zip to hurt them. Having someone like Nzogbia would give us a new dimension and at 9.5m for someone who is of his age, proven in the premier league like he is, thats great value in my opinion.

He is the ideal signing for what we need at this point. Young enough, wants a chance on the big stage and highly talented. You say maybe he is a big fish in a small pond? Well maybe he would lose some inconsistency he may have by playing with better players? Maybe by having other players on his level he would develop his game and become a top winger in the league?

It will be immaterial as we wont have the money to make a late bid! So I think it will be a case of playing and hoping that one of victor, gueye or Barkley do a good job for us on the right wing this season as I dont believe Seamus is a long term solution there due to his lack of ability to know how to deal with 2 players facing him when standing still, and being too much head down into a blind alley. Failing that we will revert to Osman out there or trying Bily on the right again. Who knows one may work but Nzogbia would have given us a dimension we have been craving for a long long time in that position.

The bigger point as always is that we havent spent money on someone that isnt off the back of selling anyone since August 2007 with the Yak. How long can we go on like that and hope the manager sticks around and keeps most of the squad together?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 27, 2011, 06:39:25 AM
Really?

Considering he'll probably sign for them tomorrow i think the odds are slim..
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: claimabstract on July 27, 2011, 06:58:34 AM
Not for me pal.

Let me be clear, im not saying he's a bad player, he's had a good couple of seasons at Wigan. But it could quite possibly be big fish little pond syndrome that's brought that out in him as he was frankly awful at Newcastle with 50 thousand geordies screamin at you every week (rightly or wrongly, there's defintiely a big game atmosphere there)

Of course his form there could have been down to age but he was beyond poor for his entire stay there.

He has attributes we do need i'll grant you but Billy still deserves a chance there, and the french poof is also looking promising in pre-season.

There are 2, possibly 3 positions that we should be looking to bring in improvements on what we've got before we look to sign a LW imo.

But I honestly dont think he's worth the 9.5m Villa have paid for him, he's not THAT good at what he does. He doesn't turn his RB inside out for 90 minutes week in week out. He goes past his man well but his final delivery is often poor.

I'm pretty confident we would play him on the right wing and that is a position we need. I think Moyes wants him on the right, Arteta on the left with Fellaini, Cahill and Osman/Rodwell in the middle. Good midfield.

Of course he is hit and miss, delivery often lacking but he offers something we dont have aside from pace. The ability to change a game with a great run, a terrific shot and of course some pace to play on the counter attack. Last season there were too many games when we couldnt break defensive teams down. Where they sat back and we didnt have the zip to hurt them. Having someone like Nzogbia would give us a new dimension and at 9.5m for someone who is of his age, proven in the premier league like he is, thats great value in my opinion.

He is the ideal signing for what we need at this point. Young enough, wants a chance on the big stage and highly talented. You say maybe he is a big fish in a small pond? Well maybe he would lose some inconsistency he may have by playing with better players? Maybe by having other players on his level he would develop his game and become a top winger in the league?

It will be immaterial as we wont have the money to make a late bid! So I think it will be a case of playing and hoping that one of victor, gueye or Barkley do a good job for us on the right wing this season as I dont believe Seamus is a long term solution there due to his lack of ability to know how to deal with 2 players facing him when standing still, and being too much head down into a blind alley. Failing that we will revert to Osman out there or trying Bily on the right again. Who knows one may work but Nzogbia would have given us a dimension we have been craving for a long long time in that position.

The bigger point as always is that we havent spent money on someone that isnt off the back of selling anyone since August 2007 with the Yak. How long can we go on like that and hope the manager sticks around and keeps most of the squad together?

Quoting big long posts helps get this thread to 100 pages.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 27, 2011, 07:54:41 AM
I'm pretty confident we would play him on the right wing and that is a position we need. I think Moyes wants him on the right, Arteta on the left with Fellaini, Cahill and Osman/Rodwell in the middle. Good midfield.

Of course he is hit and miss, delivery often lacking but he offers something we dont have aside from pace. The ability to change a game with a great run, a terrific shot and of course some pace to play on the counter attack. Last season there were too many games when we couldnt break defensive teams down. Where they sat back and we didnt have the zip to hurt them. Having someone like Nzogbia would give us a new dimension and at 9.5m for someone who is of his age, proven in the premier league like he is, thats great value in my opinion.

He is the ideal signing for what we need at this point. Young enough, wants a chance on the big stage and highly talented. You say maybe he is a big fish in a small pond? Well maybe he would lose some inconsistency he may have by playing with better players? Maybe by having other players on his level he would develop his game and become a top winger in the league?

It will be immaterial as we wont have the money to make a late bid! So I think it will be a case of playing and hoping that one of victor, gueye or Barkley do a good job for us on the right wing this season as I dont believe Seamus is a long term solution there due to his lack of ability to know how to deal with 2 players facing him when standing still, and being too much head down into a blind alley. Failing that we will revert to Osman out there or trying Bily on the right again. Who knows one may work but Nzogbia would have given us a dimension we have been craving for a long long time in that position.

The bigger point as always is that we havent spent money on someone that isnt off the back of selling anyone since August 2007 with the Yak. How long can we go on like that and hope the manager sticks around and keeps most of the squad together?

I was surprised when people mentioned the LW. I'd always thought had we got him he'd be deployed on the right.

Oh, and I agree with the rest too :)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 27, 2011, 07:59:11 AM
Yes.

I'd stake my reputation for accuracy in predictions, on it.

Alright, I won't try and get in the way of that.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 27, 2011, 08:00:21 AM
At all.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 27, 2011, 11:32:50 AM
I'm pretty confident we would play him on the right wing and that is a position we need. I think Moyes wants him on the right, Arteta on the left with Fellaini, Cahill and Osman/Rodwell in the middle. Good midfield.

Of course he is hit and miss, delivery often lacking but he offers something we dont have aside from pace. The ability to change a game with a great run, a terrific shot and of course some pace to play on the counter attack. Last season there were too many games when we couldnt break defensive teams down. Where they sat back and we didnt have the zip to hurt them. Having someone like Nzogbia would give us a new dimension and at 9.5m for someone who is of his age, proven in the premier league like he is, thats great value in my opinion.

He is the ideal signing for what we need at this point. Young enough, wants a chance on the big stage and highly talented. You say maybe he is a big fish in a small pond? Well maybe he would lose some inconsistency he may have by playing with better players? Maybe by having other players on his level he would develop his game and become a top winger in the league?

It will be immaterial as we wont have the money to make a late bid! So I think it will be a case of playing and hoping that one of victor, gueye or Barkley do a good job for us on the right wing this season as I dont believe Seamus is a long term solution there due to his lack of ability to know how to deal with 2 players facing him when standing still, and being too much head down into a blind alley. Failing that we will revert to Osman out there or trying Bily on the right again. Who knows one may work but Nzogbia would have given us a dimension we have been craving for a long long time in that position.

The bigger point as always is that we havent spent money on someone that isnt off the back of selling anyone since August 2007 with the Yak. How long can we go on like that and hope the manager sticks around and keeps most of the squad together?

Well put, Rhys. As usual. But not usual enough of late. You were sorely missed around here this summer. Good to have you back.

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 27, 2011, 03:51:54 PM
Quoting big long posts helps get this thread to 100 pages.

So does quoting little ones.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 27, 2011, 04:00:36 PM
So does quoting little ones.

Yes, but who would bother to quote you on this?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 27, 2011, 04:08:38 PM
Yes, but who would bother to quote you on this?

So does quoting little ones.

Me.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: BLUECELT on July 27, 2011, 04:40:11 PM
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgg ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg ghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

[gets breath back]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgg ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg ghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
Title: I wish he didnt
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 27, 2011, 04:43:07 PM
did you have to get your breath back?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: BLUECELT on July 27, 2011, 04:44:20 PM
it was an animal roar that speaks of increasingly deep and intense frustration, I couldnt maintain it for long.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: efcraz on July 27, 2011, 06:19:05 PM
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

[gets breath back]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgg ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg ghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

so you are starting to loose the plot as well then??? Resorting to animal noises is the first stage of mental-Ness. if we don't sign anyone this summer, I'll  be going to the game in a straight jacket next season!!!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: BLUECELT on July 27, 2011, 06:23:40 PM
yeah, just a bit like, I'll probably recover a bit once the season actually kicks off and weve something else to complain about. At that point I'll probably chill it down to just staring at the palms of my hands instead of primeval animal noises.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Tasslehoff on July 27, 2011, 08:55:36 PM
Has he signed yet?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 27, 2011, 09:02:09 PM
So does quoting little ones.
Yes, but who would bother to quote you on this?
Me.

I can't see that happening.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 27, 2011, 09:10:47 PM
So does quoting little ones.
Yes, but who would bother to quote you on this?
Me.
I can't see that happening.

Really?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 27, 2011, 09:46:13 PM
Looks like Anichebe might be given a chance at RW this season. Coleman to RB with Neville's role reduced? Or will we see less of Coleman?

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2011/07/27/everton-fc-s-victor-anichebe-vows-to-put-injury-nightmare-behind-him-as-he-prepares-to-be-efc-wing-man-once-again-100252-29125716/ (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2011/07/27/everton-fc-s-victor-anichebe-vows-to-put-injury-nightmare-behind-him-as-he-prepares-to-be-efc-wing-man-once-again-100252-29125716/)

VICTOR ANICHEBE has vowed to put his injury nightmare behind him as he prepares to be David Moyes’ wing-man once again.

The Nigerian forward wants to hit the ground running in the forthcoming campaign, after missing the opening four months of last season with an ankle injury which led to the lowest point of his Blues career.

But after scoring in Everton’s impressive 3-1 win over DC United in Washington on Saturday, the 23-year-old is hoping to build some momentum ahead of the season opener against Spurs on August 13 – when he will begin repaying David Moyes’ faith in him.

He said: “Last season I felt so good in pre-season and I got injured right towards the end of pre-season.

“I think I took that one a lot harder that when I got injured off the tackle from (Kevin) Nolan.

“I thought I was doing really well, I felt fit and strong and then I got injured – it was a bitter blow to swallow but I had good friends, family and the manager who showed a lot of faith in me

“Sometimes you need to take your mind away from football, it’s our job and we love it but there’s a lot more to think about, it puts things into perspective when you’re injured, it helps you learn,” he added.

“I pray that the injuries are past me and that I can show what I’m capable of.”

Anichebe has been used both up front and out wide in the games against Bury and DC United as Moyes explores his options in the final third of the field.

Perhaps his most consistent spell at Goodison Park came on the right hand side of midfield and the powerful attacker says he is happy to wing it for the good of the team.

“I’ve taken playing wide in my stride, I had some good games there last year so I can’t really argue,” he said.

“Playing up front is good but the main thing is helping out the team, I haven’t got a preference, playing wide is a lot harder than up-front but I don’t mind.

“It’s really demanding playing wide, sometimes from the outside you see other people doing it and you think it’s not that hard but when you get put into that position it is.

“I played on the wing against Spurs and I was having to chase down Gareth Bale, it was crazy but it’s about breaking those boundaries.”

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Sill not sure about him on the wing. While he does bring the physical element which could cause diminutive LB's trouble I can't say I'm impressed up to now with the other wing necessities like crossing, ability to take on a defender etc.   But maybe this is his season to make his mark.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 27, 2011, 09:54:28 PM
Coleman and Vic on the wing I think would be disastrous. I think Bily would be better there alongside Coleman.

Hopefully Anichebe will be sold or just left on the bench.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 27, 2011, 09:58:48 PM
Coleman and Vic on the wing I think would be disastrous. I think Bily would be better there alongside Coleman.

Hopefully Anichebe will be sold or just left on the bench.

be sold? doesnt sound like hes being sold to me from his comments.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 27, 2011, 09:59:55 PM
No, it's just me hoping.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 27, 2011, 10:02:33 PM
No, it's just me hoping.
haha if people have seen him play theres not a chance theyd be interested
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 27, 2011, 10:03:50 PM
I'd like to see Coleman given more time at RB this season.

But as for who plays RW, I'm at a bit of a loss. It's a case of "None of the above" for me.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: the roy vernon plan on July 27, 2011, 11:00:28 PM
Like you Blue Toffee I am at a loss who will play right wing if we fail to sign
Nzogbia. Coleman deserves an extended run at right back and could bring something that
Hibbert and Neville are unable to do. 

But it is at right wing where we need to buy as EFC simply does not have a quick, clever,
pacy winger.     

Its years since Billy Liar brought new incremental money to the club. I am an old fella but I have never felt
so sad about the club. EFC is at a tipping point. We have some very good players and with just
one or two signings we could really go places. If Billy Liar fails to build on this team then things could fall apart.


 
Title: Talk abut sex
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 27, 2011, 11:15:30 PM
Like you Blue Toffee I am at a loss who will play right wing if we fail to sign
Nzogbia. Coleman deserves an extended run at right back and could bring something that
Hibbert and Neville are unable to do. 

But it is at right wing where we need to buy as EFC simply does not have a quick, clever,
pacy winger.     

Its years since Billy Liar brought new incremental money to the club. I am an old fella but I have never felt
so sad about the club. EFC is at a tipping point. We have some very good players and with just
one or two signings we could really go places. If Billy Liar fails to build on this team then things could fall apart.


 

You've never felt so bad about the club? What about when we were looking at relegation year on year? Sure it's not the greatest time to be a fan but talk about over-reactions.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: the roy vernon plan on July 27, 2011, 11:31:03 PM
It is a different emotion. When EFC were battling against relegation I was obviously
worried and frantic but the reasons why the club was in that predicament were easy to understand.

Now EFC after years of patient improvement in terms of player quality the club is close to really
going places. However we need a player or two and we need a chairman to support the manager
and seize the moment. Instead, Billy Liar is "crossing his fingers".  That´s why I am disappointed and sad.


   
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: BLUECELT on July 27, 2011, 11:38:37 PM
It is a different emotion. When EFC were battling against relegation I was obviously
worried and frantic but the reasons why the club was in that predicament were easy to understand.

Now EFC after years of patient improvement in terms of player quality the club is close to really
going places. However we need a player or two and we need a chairman to support the manager
and seize the moment. Instead, Billy Liar is "crossing his fingers".  That´s why I am disappointed and sad.


   

to say youve never felt so bad about the club is pretty extreme mate, its frustrating ok, but its not all bad. I was in tears after that coventry game when we stayed up thanks to a Farrelly goal, Im just pissed off at the moment eh?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: the roy vernon plan on July 27, 2011, 11:49:12 PM
I think its a lot more than frustrating. Its a moment of truth for the next few years.
By not building on what the manager is achieving then the opportunity to build a stronger
team and press for a higher league place will pass us by.

All the players know that and we will see the effects as our best fail players fail to renew contracts,
we fail to attract good new players and the manager himself moves on.

Its taken years to get to this point. And now just as the club is about to define itself as a consistent
top 6 team, the Chairman goes AWOL. 
         

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 27, 2011, 11:51:03 PM
I see where he's coming from. Even in the dark days of relegation, we still always spent money to get new players in, we still had lots of assets, and we weren't as financially behind as we are today.

Now we spend nothing on players while the squad gets older, we have no assets, we're massively in debt with no way of getting out of it and we are being left behind in a big way.

It's the future that's the problem. Right now we are treading water, in the next two or three years we're going to be in deep shit if no investment is put in.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Verm on July 28, 2011, 12:06:51 AM
Before Moyes took over we were a relegation class side fighting off relegation, now we're a european class team looking down the barrel of potential future relegation scraps.

I guess it hurts more because we're falling from near the top instead of just staying rooted to the bottom.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: plumber on July 28, 2011, 12:16:46 AM
I think its a lot more than frustrating. Its a moment of truth for the next few years.
By not building on what the manager is achieving then the opportunity to build a stronger
team and press for a higher league place will pass us by.

All the players know that and we will see the effects as our best fail players fail to renew contracts,
we fail to attract good new players and the manager himself moves on.

Its taken years to get to this point. And now just as the club is about to define itself as a consistent
top 6 team, the Chairman goes AWOL. 
         




It's strange You somehow managed to compose quite a long post without "Billy Liar".
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: the roy vernon plan on July 28, 2011, 12:29:50 AM
Sorry you´re right. It wont happen again.

 
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on July 28, 2011, 12:31:11 AM
I'm pretty confident we would play him on the right wing and that is a position we need. I think Moyes wants him on the right, Arteta on the left with Fellaini, Cahill and Osman/Rodwell in the middle. Good midfield.

Of course he is hit and miss, delivery often lacking but he offers something we dont have aside from pace. The ability to change a game with a great run, a terrific shot and of course some pace to play on the counter attack. Last season there were too many games when we couldnt break defensive teams down. Where they sat back and we didnt have the zip to hurt them. Having someone like Nzogbia would give us a new dimension and at 9.5m for someone who is of his age, proven in the premier league like he is, thats great value in my opinion.

He is the ideal signing for what we need at this point. Young enough, wants a chance on the big stage and highly talented. You say maybe he is a big fish in a small pond? Well maybe he would lose some inconsistency he may have by playing with better players? Maybe by having other players on his level he would develop his game and become a top winger in the league?

It will be immaterial as we wont have the money to make a late bid! So I think it will be a case of playing and hoping that one of victor, gueye or Barkley do a good job for us on the right wing this season as I dont believe Seamus is a long term solution there due to his lack of ability to know how to deal with 2 players facing him when standing still, and being too much head down into a blind alley. Failing that we will revert to Osman out there or trying Bily on the right again. Who knows one may work but Nzogbia would have given us a dimension we have been craving for a long long time in that position.

The bigger point as always is that we havent spent money on someone that isnt off the back of selling anyone since August 2007 with the Yak. How long can we go on like that and hope the manager sticks around and keeps most of the squad together?

There are better players on the right hand side than him.

The Korean lad at Bolton, Lee, is a cracking talent and a natural RW.

Pretty sure he's in the last year of his contract, could be argued Coyle is planning for him leaving with the signing of Chris Eagles and would cost a fraction of the 9.5m N'Zogbia has.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 28, 2011, 12:58:43 AM
Lee is good, but he isn't really the same type of player. He isn't that quick, nor do I remember him having all that great of shot on him. Plus I don't think he is on the last year of his deal.

N'Zogbia brings pace and the ability to score from distance. Both things we are crying out for. Now without question there are other players like N'Zogbia out there but I think we'd have to look for an unproven player that has similar attributes if we aren't to get him.

I think this will prove another lesson in EFC being unable to get proven PL players (unless they're free).
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: efcraz on July 28, 2011, 01:01:17 AM
There are better players on the right hand side than him.

The Korean lad at Bolton, Lee, is a cracking talent and a natural RW.

Pretty sure he's in the last year of his contract, could be argued Coyle is planning for him leaving with the signing of Chris Eagles and would cost a fraction of the 9.5m N'Zogbia has.

im with you on that, hes a great little player, clever too
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on July 28, 2011, 01:08:28 AM
Lee is good, but he isn't really the same type of player. He isn't that quick, nor do I remember him having all that great of shot on him. Plus I don't think he is on the last year of his deal.

N'Zogbia brings pace and the ability to score from distance. Both things we are crying out for. Now without question there are other players like N'Zogbia out there but I think we'd have to look for an unproven player that has similar attributes if we aren't to get him.

I think this will prove another lesson in EFC being unable to get proven PL players (unless they're free).

No I agree with you on that, he's not lightning quick nor does he have a hammer foot on him but what he does incredibly well is use his noggin, link up with others extremely well, not a box of tricks Ronaldo style but beats a man very well and his delivery is absolutely fantastic.

As the fella with the tidy mrs says, very smart player and as with seemingly all those from that part of the world, has a fantastic work ethic and the engine to go with it. Which is frankly something else that N'Zogbia lacks imo.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: toffee_scot on July 28, 2011, 01:11:00 AM
Like you Blue Toffee I am at a loss who will play right wing if we fail to sign
Nzogbia. Coleman deserves an extended run at right back and could bring something that
Hibbert and Neville are unable to do. 

The thing is, the right wing is an area that hasn't been sorted since...a long time ago. We've had Coleman, Osman, Arteta, Anichebe, Rodwell, Bilyaletdinov, Baxter all playing there in the last couple of seasons.

Next season I expect those seven players to take it in turns again to occupy the right wing. 
Title: We have till next week to find some money
Post by: STUBBSY157 on July 28, 2011, 07:20:22 PM
Just reading that N'Zogbia wont be joining Villa till next week now

Does anyone else get the feeling that N'zogbia aint to keen on a move to Villa?


So we have abit longer to find some money, will we find some? only time will tell


But you can tell he wants a move to us..



Title: Re: We have till next week to find some money
Post by: GNSNOEFC on July 28, 2011, 07:22:25 PM
Just reading that N'Zogbia wont be joining Villa till next week now

Does anyone else get the feeling that N'zogbia aint to keen on a move to Villa?


So we have abit longer to find some money, will we find some? only time will tell


But you can tell he wants a move to us..




big thread about nzogbia mate just sayin hopefully you wont react like a tit like the other poster ari, but any maybe he isnt keen maybe he wants us to buy him if we can seeing as though all i see on here is how much he wants to come here and that we want him etc, would be a good signing thought i think
Title: Re: We have till next week to find some money
Post by: blargins on July 28, 2011, 07:26:20 PM
To be honest, he'd be mad wanting to join a club that has no money to strengthen its team.
Title: Re: We have till next week to find some money
Post by: STUBBSY157 on July 28, 2011, 07:34:43 PM
What are you in admin mate...... :P


I just cant stand going through 80 odd pages lol...


Dont worry I wont be acting like a tit... It was a fair point you made
Title: Who's with me?!
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 28, 2011, 07:41:30 PM
George for admin!
Title: Re: We have till next week to find some money
Post by: TheRam on July 28, 2011, 08:08:13 PM
To be honest, he'd be mad wanting to join a club that has no money to strengthen its team.

Villa are in the same boat as us.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on July 28, 2011, 08:17:30 PM
You do realise you can skip to the last page though, rather than go through 80 pages before posting.

McLeish has said that they might not do any other business after. If he was all Villa are planning to add, then I can imagine he may want to consider elsewhere.

I doubt anyone will match that offer, but if N'Zogbia refuses the move with 1 year left on his contract. Wigan might have to consider lower offers or risk a Pienaar type situation where his value is dropping quickly and nearly every bid comes in lower than the one before.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 28, 2011, 08:29:19 PM
Villa are in the same boat as us.

So why is he apparently waiting on us then? Plus they have money to spend. We would too if we did what they did.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gash on July 28, 2011, 08:33:08 PM
But you can tell he wants a move to us..

Can you?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 28, 2011, 08:46:02 PM
I get the impression he isn't overly enthused with joining Villa too. I'm sure he'll sign if no other offers come in but with Wigan agreeing to a fee the only one who could make the deal drag on would be N'Zogbia.

I could also see him preferring to join us if for no other reason than to play under a better manager. But unless we happen to sell Jags in the next few days, that clearly isn't happening. Either way I still get the sense he is dragging his feet a little just to be sure there aren't better offers out there.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 28, 2011, 08:48:07 PM
He's pulling a Fernandes on their asses
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: STUBBSY157 on July 28, 2011, 09:02:21 PM
Thats a great point.... Maybe its time to start a new 'Manny Fernandes' thread

Pretty sure I read that he is available for around £3m


I would love that guy back...I realise that i will be slated that that comment


Shall i start a thread lol or aint it worth the hassel?


Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 28, 2011, 09:03:59 PM
Thats a great point.... Maybe its time to start a new 'Manny Fernandes' thread

Pretty sure I read that he is available for around £3m


I would love that guy back...I realise that i will be slated that that comment


Shall i start a thread lol or aint it worth the hassel?




Hahah good one
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Krissy on July 28, 2011, 09:12:21 PM
Come on Blues get in there and nick him...come on...
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: nebs on July 28, 2011, 09:19:55 PM
Thats a great point.... Maybe its time to start a new 'Manny Fernandes' thread

Pretty sure I read that he is available for around £3m


I would love that guy back...I realise that i will be slated that that comment


Shall i start a thread lol or aint it worth the hassel?




For £3m it's a steal. Start that thread. I would love him back here.

Fookin' better than N'Zogbia!

Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: toffee_scot on July 28, 2011, 09:31:05 PM
Just reading that N'Zogbia wont be joining Villa till next week now

Great, that gives us another week to get this thread up to 100 pages.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: fritzlsloveden on July 28, 2011, 09:33:57 PM
Manny Fernandes - The saviour of EFC  :bonk:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gash on July 28, 2011, 09:59:13 PM
Thats a great point.... Maybe its time to start a new 'Manny Fernandes' thread

Pretty sure I read that he is available for around £3m


I would love that guy back...I realise that i will be slated that that comment


Shall i start a thread lol or aint it worth the hassel?

Signed for Besiktas. So no, it wouldn't be worth the hassle.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 28, 2011, 10:06:05 PM
For £3m it's a steal. Start that thread. I would love him back here.

Fookin' better than N'Zogbia!



Let's stop this here. Fernandes has already signed for another club earlier in the summer.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 28, 2011, 10:07:40 PM
Do you think we'll hit 100 pages before he signs for Villa?
No.
Really?
Yes.

I'd stake my reputation for accuracy in predictions, on it.

Worried yet? :)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on July 28, 2011, 10:11:48 PM
Worried yet? :)
Not at all.

My reputation as the great predictor is safe. I'll stake my reputation for predicting the outcome of my predictions on it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: STUBBSY157 on July 28, 2011, 10:13:23 PM
Great, that gives us another week to get this thread up to 100 pages.

Hahaha
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 28, 2011, 10:16:36 PM
Not at all.

My reputation as the great predictor is safe. I'll stake my reputation for predicting the outcome of my predictions on it.

Raising the stakes ay? Brave.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: STUBBSY157 on July 28, 2011, 10:21:21 PM
Signed for Besiktas. So no, it wouldn't be worth the hassle.


:( this makes me sad...... for me if he had signed for us a few years ago he would have been our best player by a mile when fully fit..


Never mind....back to N'Zogbia then..
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on July 28, 2011, 10:43:29 PM
Raising the stakes ay? Brave.
I'm not some sort of crafty butcher, if that's what you are implying.  :hmph:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: irishtoffee on July 28, 2011, 10:59:29 PM
I'm not some sort of crafty butcher, if that's what you are implying.  :hmph:
to help with your prediction perhaps you should stop contributing to the thread yourself. not that i'm after helping though...
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: toffee_scot on July 28, 2011, 11:01:02 PM
I don't think we need a player like Manny Fernandes anyway, he is a central midfielder which we seem to have enough of in the squad.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on July 28, 2011, 11:14:22 PM
to help with your prediction perhaps you should stop contributing to the thread yourself. not that i'm after helping though...
That is a good point, duly noted.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 28, 2011, 11:17:43 PM
Is...

Not at all.

My reputation as the great predictor is safe. I'll stake my reputation for predicting the outcome of my predictions on it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 28, 2011, 11:18:05 PM
...it...

Not at all.

My reputation as the great predictor is safe. I'll stake my reputation for predicting the outcome of my predictions on it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 28, 2011, 11:18:22 PM
...really...

Not at all.

My reputation as the great predictor is safe. I'll stake my reputation for predicting the outcome of my predictions on it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 28, 2011, 11:18:37 PM
...though.

Not at all.

My reputation as the great predictor is safe. I'll stake my reputation for predicting the outcome of my predictions on it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 28, 2011, 11:18:48 PM
What...

Not at all.

My reputation as the great predictor is safe. I'll stake my reputation for predicting the outcome of my predictions on it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 28, 2011, 11:19:02 PM
...if...
Not at all.

My reputation as the great predictor is safe. I'll stake my reputation for predicting the outcome of my predictions on it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 28, 2011, 11:19:15 PM
...some...

Not at all.

My reputation as the great predictor is safe. I'll stake my reputation for predicting the outcome of my predictions on it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 28, 2011, 11:19:27 PM
...cheeky...

Not at all.

My reputation as the great predictor is safe. I'll stake my reputation for predicting the outcome of my predictions on it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 28, 2011, 11:19:38 PM
...bastard...

Not at all.

My reputation as the great predictor is safe. I'll stake my reputation for predicting the outcome of my predictions on it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 28, 2011, 11:19:49 PM
...starts...

Not at all.

My reputation as the great predictor is safe. I'll stake my reputation for predicting the outcome of my predictions on it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 28, 2011, 11:20:00 PM
...using...

Not at all.

My reputation as the great predictor is safe. I'll stake my reputation for predicting the outcome of my predictions on it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 28, 2011, 11:20:09 PM
...dirty...

Not at all.

My reputation as the great predictor is safe. I'll stake my reputation for predicting the outcome of my predictions on it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 28, 2011, 11:20:24 PM
...thread-bloating...

Not at all.

My reputation as the great predictor is safe. I'll stake my reputation for predicting the outcome of my predictions on it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 28, 2011, 11:20:34 PM
...tactics...

Not at all.

My reputation as the great predictor is safe. I'll stake my reputation for predicting the outcome of my predictions on it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 28, 2011, 11:20:44 PM
...just...

Not at all.

My reputation as the great predictor is safe. I'll stake my reputation for predicting the outcome of my predictions on it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 28, 2011, 11:20:53 PM
...to...

Not at all.

My reputation as the great predictor is safe. I'll stake my reputation for predicting the outcome of my predictions on it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 28, 2011, 11:21:06 PM
...push...

Not at all.

My reputation as the great predictor is safe. I'll stake my reputation for predicting the outcome of my predictions on it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 28, 2011, 11:21:15 PM
...the...

Not at all.

My reputation as the great predictor is safe. I'll stake my reputation for predicting the outcome of my predictions on it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 28, 2011, 11:21:24 PM
...length...

Not at all.

My reputation as the great predictor is safe. I'll stake my reputation for predicting the outcome of my predictions on it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 28, 2011, 11:21:37 PM
...up...

Not at all.

My reputation as the great predictor is safe. I'll stake my reputation for predicting the outcome of my predictions on it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 28, 2011, 11:21:48 PM
...toward...

Not at all.

My reputation as the great predictor is safe. I'll stake my reputation for predicting the outcome of my predictions on it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 28, 2011, 11:22:03 PM
...100 pages?

Not at all.

My reputation as the great predictor is safe. I'll stake my reputation for predicting the outcome of my predictions on it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on July 28, 2011, 11:23:00 PM
Sorry, I didn't catch all that, can you repeat it?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 28, 2011, 11:23:53 PM
Ahh, not working very well. Only took it to 86.

Perhaps you are safe.

Though, you never know, Kyle Naughton could get mixed up in this thread somehow.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: BLUECELT on July 28, 2011, 11:25:37 PM
surely people are losing interest in this thread by now.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 28, 2011, 11:25:58 PM
Sorry, I didn't catch all that, can you repeat it?

I'm James Vaughan.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: BLUECELT on July 28, 2011, 11:26:13 PM
though sometimes i come back just to look at your avatar.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: TheRam on July 28, 2011, 11:26:55 PM
surely people are losing interest in this thread by now.

Not when you post so I can see your avatar.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: BLUECELT on July 28, 2011, 11:29:45 PM
if you knew that you could do imogen thomas but it would all come out in the papers and sort of ruin your life, would you do it anyway?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: BLUECELT on July 28, 2011, 11:34:09 PM
possibly more on thread, i wonder if N'Zogbia has had a piece of Thomas?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: cantoffee on July 28, 2011, 11:41:41 PM
I doubt it would ruin my life if the papers reported on me being all up in imogen thomas, id get a fuck load of high fives which would be sweet
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: BLUECELT on July 28, 2011, 11:44:20 PM
my missis may not be so understanding if i did it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 28, 2011, 11:49:00 PM
possibly more on thread, i wonder if N'Zogbia has had a piece of Thomas?

Yes, but it apparently ruined his life.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Confucius on July 28, 2011, 11:49:05 PM
my missis may not be so understanding if i did it.

 nod
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: claimabstract on July 29, 2011, 12:28:59 AM
Thirteen ... more ... pages ... to ... go ...
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: dekko on July 29, 2011, 03:40:03 AM
Have we signed him yet?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: fritzlsloveden on July 29, 2011, 03:51:20 AM
Wish I'd never posted in this
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: bigac on July 29, 2011, 06:18:26 AM
Must admit, even as a complete sceptic on this one, it is a bit odd that the deal to Villa hasn't been done yet. The fact he hasnt come back from his jollies to tie it up suggests he is hoping someone else comes in last minute, I mean its fairly common to hear a player has cut short their hols to sign up. If Jags is going, is their a small chance for EFC to step in, mmmmmmmm???? This one lives on.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 29, 2011, 08:15:05 AM
Have we signed him yet?

Not for another 13 pages.



...or so
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on July 29, 2011, 08:26:42 AM
I shouldn't assist my own downfall, but if I say Obertan it's alright.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: BootleBlueBoy on July 29, 2011, 08:27:52 AM
(http://www.crazyfart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/c2a36_Hot_girls_sexy_emo_girls_640_50.jpg)

whos that?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 29, 2011, 08:30:54 AM
It's Confucius' wife. Try to keep up.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Shogun on July 29, 2011, 09:05:28 AM
(http://www.crazyfart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/c2a36_Hot_girls_sexy_emo_girls_640_50.jpg)
+1
who is that?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: christiffa25 on July 29, 2011, 02:04:04 PM
Having villa medical today !!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: GLewis on July 29, 2011, 02:26:46 PM
I heard he's going to turn up with a limp so that they postpone it until next week.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: BLUECELT on July 29, 2011, 03:14:19 PM
whos that?

i dont know but shes fit
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: BLUECELT on July 29, 2011, 06:09:40 PM
this threads dying a death, so heres another fit emo girl
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: claimabstract on July 29, 2011, 06:13:06 PM
(http://www.crazyfart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/c2a36_Hot_girls_sexy_emo_girls_640_50.jpg)

She reminds me of these drawings they'd sell in the 70s with fine felt-tipped markers.

She looks a keeper because:
(a) her neck tattoo might deter her from wanting necklaces of the jewelry kind as it would interfere with the appearance of her tattoo; and
(b) when other men are staring at her chest, one could console oneself by thinking that they're staring at the tattoos;
(c) she left some spots for you to color in; and
(d) you'd never be arguing about who's hair that is in the sink.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 29, 2011, 06:40:52 PM
I heard he's going to turn up with a limp so that they postpone it until next week.

:)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: kunal32 on July 29, 2011, 10:43:29 PM
Anyone for BBQ? fantastic baps!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jamokachi on July 29, 2011, 10:45:45 PM
I've really developed a taste for the tattooed females.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 29, 2011, 11:21:53 PM
I've really developed a taste for the tattooed females.

Not really the place to be discussing your cannibal urges. Try an Abnormal Psychology forum. Or the Hannibal Lecter Foundation. Or just turn yourself into the police.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 29, 2011, 11:23:24 PM
Did he pass his fucking medical or what? This is one long drawn out transfer
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 29, 2011, 11:36:22 PM
Did he pass his fucking medical or what? This is one long drawn out transfer

why woudnt he? close this thread its just borderline ridiculous!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 29, 2011, 11:40:28 PM
why woudnt he? close this thread its just borderline ridiculous!

NEVER!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 29, 2011, 11:41:17 PM
why woudnt he? close this thread its just borderline ridiculous!

I dunno why I just havent heard its a done deal so thought I would ask

Sorry
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on July 29, 2011, 11:56:47 PM
he's been at Villa having the medical today, but isnt "completing" the deal until monday

rumours that Sunderland have come in with a last minute bid. why though, when he's having a medical at villa?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: nebs on July 30, 2011, 12:00:36 AM
why woudnt he? close this thread its just borderline ridiculous!

Yeah, and you're the biggest polluter of it!

Still, this is taking its time. Villa must be very confident that it won't collapse, or someone is not in a great hurry to make it happen.

Still a chance, eh?  :badum:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on July 30, 2011, 12:36:48 AM
(http://lockerz.com/s/124738290)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Risky on July 30, 2011, 12:38:25 AM
he's been at Villa having the medical today, but isnt "completing" the deal until monday

rumours that Sunderland have come in with a last minute bid. why though, when he's having a medical at villa?

Why?  Because they want to sign him?  Crazy stuff.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on July 30, 2011, 12:38:33 AM
(http://c0013884.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/x2_76f5af2)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 30, 2011, 12:40:54 AM
(http://c0013884.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/x2_76f5af2)


now close this thread and nebs..go play tic you little rat
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: nebs on July 30, 2011, 12:46:47 AM

now close this thread and nebs..go play tic you little rat


Good comeback.  :hail:

What's "tic"?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: steve81 on July 30, 2011, 12:48:22 AM
close thread pointless now hes signed
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jonny on July 30, 2011, 12:49:02 AM
Gutted.

Cheers Bill.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Azz on July 30, 2011, 12:50:46 AM
Yay thank god that is over!   :woohoo:



Oh wait.... I need a hug  :hug:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: nebs on July 30, 2011, 12:53:51 AM
close thread pointless now hes signed

"Sorry, you can't repeat a karma action without waiting 1 hours"

FFS!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: cantoffee on July 30, 2011, 12:55:30 AM
"Sorry, you can't repeat a karma action without waiting 1 hours"

FFS!

lolol

a couple of quality jokes in the last few minutes from you
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: steve81 on July 30, 2011, 12:55:43 AM
"Sorry, you can't repeat a karma action without waiting 1 hours"

FFS!
-1
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on July 30, 2011, 12:58:09 AM
3 cheers for bill!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on July 30, 2011, 01:02:15 AM
anyone else think well still get him?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Confucius on July 30, 2011, 01:03:30 AM
anyone else think well still get him?

me
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: kunal32 on July 30, 2011, 01:05:37 AM
89 pages of wasted nonsense, was there ever a direct quote from Nzogbia or Everton football club stating that any of the parties were actually interested? Just another Riquelme thread.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 30, 2011, 01:06:59 AM
we wont sign anybody said this ages ago.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 30, 2011, 01:30:53 AM
Gutted it never made it to 100 pages.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 30, 2011, 01:31:14 AM
He was shit anyway...
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Shogun on July 30, 2011, 01:31:16 AM
that's wigan down then.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 30, 2011, 01:32:28 AM
Apparently Wigan want to buy Yak and Yobo in a £9.5 million deal...
Title: lol
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 30, 2011, 01:33:13 AM
Apparently Wigan want to buy Yak and Yobo in a £9.5 million deal...

lol
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on July 30, 2011, 01:55:07 AM
 :woohoo:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: toffee_scot on July 30, 2011, 02:12:45 AM
Oh well, 90 pages. What was the previous record for a transfer rumour on one player?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 30, 2011, 02:14:11 AM
hahahahaah... dead funny billy i got in done for the last home game thought id stick it on : )
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on July 30, 2011, 02:15:01 AM
The most viewed thread in sports entertainment today.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: brap2 on July 30, 2011, 02:22:15 AM
The most viewed thread in sports entertainment today.
;D
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blueToffee on July 30, 2011, 02:24:52 AM
:woohoo:

 :hmph:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: cantoffee on July 30, 2011, 02:38:23 AM
hahahahaah... dead funny billy i got in done for the last home game thought id stick it on : )

^what does this mean?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on July 30, 2011, 02:43:55 AM
:hmph:
Unlucky.  :smug:

IN YOUR FACE! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNSgIMQ0L2s#ws)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 30, 2011, 02:46:40 AM
^what does this mean?

billy laughing as i had efc in my head.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: nebs on July 30, 2011, 02:48:15 AM
billy laughing as i had efc in my head.

Have a word with your hairdresser about the concepts of alignment and space.

Just saying, mate. Don't call me a "rat" again.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: ally2 on July 30, 2011, 02:49:30 AM
He's a twat anyway
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 30, 2011, 02:52:45 AM
Have a word with your hairdresser about the concepts of alignment and space.

Just saying, mate. Don't call me a "rat" again.

or what nebs?... exactly fuck all. and my brother in law did it to see if i liked it for the last home match.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: nebs on July 30, 2011, 02:53:47 AM
or what nebs?... exactly fuck all. and my brother in law did it to see if i liked it for the last home match.

What?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 30, 2011, 02:58:15 AM
pic changed just for billy :)
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 30, 2011, 03:00:18 AM
What?

The advice "Be careful what you ask for" comes to mind.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gash on July 30, 2011, 04:54:15 AM
I think this can go in the Lower Burrens?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: blargins on July 30, 2011, 04:55:15 AM
I think we should bill Aston Villa for all the wasted hours!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: sharpattack on July 30, 2011, 06:58:37 AM
Please move this thread to General Football Chat
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Grand Master C on July 30, 2011, 09:36:02 AM
Noooooooooooo !!!!!!!!!!!!  :o
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Trowel on July 30, 2011, 12:13:19 PM
We give up too easily. They signed him hours and hours ago yet poor old Charles has yet to get a sniff of first team action - I'm sure Villa are open to offers...
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Silas on July 30, 2011, 02:12:42 PM
He could still do a David Unsworth people.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: School of Science on July 30, 2011, 03:49:02 PM
Please move this thread to General Football Chat

Lets face it fella we may as well move every projected signing to general football chat,our beloved board have turned us into a small club.Iets just wait till we have sold some one or brought in investment,(ha ha ),before we post it,so as not to disapoin ourselves.t
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 30, 2011, 04:21:46 PM
We give up too easily. They signed him hours and hours ago yet poor old Charles has yet to get a sniff of first team action - I'm sure Villa are open to offers...

Yes, time to start talking up a loan deal.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: the roy vernon plan on July 30, 2011, 05:19:00 PM
When I was a kid I loved dreaming during the summer about the possible
transfers EFc could make. Still remember the excitement of signing Alan Ball
and I think Lineker was signed during the summer too. And I remember thinking
that the Cottee signing was Harvey´s first big mistake.

But its been years since I feel so deflated and so sure that under Billy Liar our number is up.
Nzogbia cost less half than what Kenny lashed out on an inferior winger; Nzogbia was just what we
needed at right wing and I dont know why but with all the French speakers at EFC he would have been happy
to sign for us. Added to the fact of course that we are a better team.

Can any of the players/DM really think that they will be playing to win something this season when the management
has had a net spend over the last two season inferior to that of Notts County? 

 
       
Title: Br..bro..brroooo..brrrooooken record
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 30, 2011, 05:21:58 PM
Ctrl+F "Billy Liar". Yep just as I thought.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 30, 2011, 05:36:09 PM
Holy shit he signed for Villa and we never put a bid in?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 30, 2011, 05:38:07 PM
Ctrl+F "Billy Liar". Yep just as I thought.

billy do you like my pic... guessing you do
Title: wht are you on about?!
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 30, 2011, 05:57:41 PM
pic?
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 30, 2011, 06:08:33 PM
pic?

that you found so funny : ) its shaved out now till i do it again : )
Title: What are the chances?!
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 30, 2011, 06:09:29 PM
that you found so funny : ) its shaved out now till i do it again : )

is that you?!?! I saw it on the 'laugh at everton here' thread on RAWK!!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 30, 2011, 06:19:30 PM
is that you?!?! I saw it on the 'laugh at everton here' thread on RAWK!!

LIES i put it on here last night  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 30, 2011, 06:22:43 PM
I clicked that chavs haircut and it took me to a weird youtube link.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 30, 2011, 06:26:07 PM
I clicked that chavs haircut and it took me to a weird youtube link.

weres the chav?......
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: nebs on July 30, 2011, 06:30:04 PM
LIES i put it on here last night  :thumbsup:

You are on RAWK, lad. Someone made it into one of those FAIL pictures or whatever. I can't be bothered trawling through the thread, though. But I would imagine it is somewhere between page 250 and 376. I seem to remember seeing it quite recently. People thought it was hilarious.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 30, 2011, 06:32:34 PM
weres the chav?......

The one who almost has letters carved onto his head.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 30, 2011, 06:32:53 PM
You are on RAWK, lad. Someone made it into one of those FAIL pictures or whatever. I can't be bothered trawling through the thread, though. But I would imagine it is somewhere between page 250 and 376. I seem to remember seeing it quite recently. People thought it was hilarious.

dunno what it is but im not assed lad. everyone in the match said fuck all so : ) just a minority of nerds on here.
Title: hehe
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 30, 2011, 06:35:42 PM
dunno what it is but im not assed lad. everyone in the match said fuck all so : ) just a minority of nerds on here.

I dunno, I was in lower gwlad for the chelsea game and people were laughing and taking pictures at someone, not sure who as I couldn't see but were you sat there?!?
Title: Re: hehe
Post by: nebs on July 30, 2011, 06:38:46 PM
I dunno, I was in lower gwlad for the chelsea game and people were laughing and taking pictures at someone, not sure who as I couldn't see but were you sat there?!?

Hahaha!  :clap:
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 30, 2011, 06:42:05 PM
I dunno, I was in lower gwlad for the chelsea game and people were laughing and taking pictures at someone, not sure who as I couldn't see but were you sat there?!?

no mate i sit in the park end by the away fans. and @ craig i had it done for the last home game. i have a skin head, it doesnt make me a " chav" you little arse bandit.
Title: Probabbly was
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 30, 2011, 06:45:28 PM
no mate i sit in the park end by the away fans. and @ craig i had it done for the last home game. i have a skin head, it doesnt make me a " chav" you little arse bandit.

Yea that's where I meant people were laughing and pointing behind some chav kid, but obviously as I was on the other end of the pitch I couldn't see what they were laughing at. I think even both Chelsea fans that were as well?! Might not have been you though mate, so don't worry about it.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 30, 2011, 06:47:26 PM
Yea that's where I meant people were laughing and pointing behind some chav kid, but obviously as I was on the other end of the pitch I couldn't see what they were laughing at. I think even both Chelsea fans that were as well?! Might not have been you though mate, so don't worry about it.

i try and be nice billy and you just still act like a prick. stop your lies.
Title: You might beat me up!
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 30, 2011, 06:48:25 PM
i try and be nice billy and you just still act like a prick. stop your lies.

I'm not lying! I wouldn't do that to you!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 30, 2011, 06:49:08 PM
I'm not lying! I wouldn't do that to you!
fuck of you gimp
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: nebs on July 30, 2011, 06:49:58 PM
no mate i sit in the park end by the away fans. and @ craig i had it done for the last home game. i have a skin head, it doesnt make me a " chav" you little arse bandit.

That's not a skinhead. I have a skinhead. You shave all your hair off. You have one of those Chav haircuts, where they leave the hair a bit longer on top, probably slapping it with a bit of gel or something.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Ridge on July 30, 2011, 06:50:18 PM
I remember when Evertonians used to have nice haircuts, but no more thanks to Billy Liar.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 30, 2011, 06:51:49 PM
I remember when Evertonians used to have nice haircuts, but no more thanks to Billy Liar.
haha :) fuck billy hes just a little muppet
Title: Because we are worth it!
Post by: Bily No Pace on July 30, 2011, 06:52:14 PM
I remember when Evertonians used to have nice haircuts, but no more thanks to Billy Liar.

KENWRIGHT OUT. TONI OR GUY IN!
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 30, 2011, 06:54:32 PM
That's not a skinhead. I have a skinhead. You shave all your hair off. You have one of those Chav haircuts, where they leave the hair a bit longer on top, probably slapping it with a bit of gel or something.

read it properly. i  HAVE  one.. tit head
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: nebs on July 30, 2011, 06:56:49 PM
read it properly. i  HAVE  one.. tit head

Oh right, it's just that on the picture you have a Chav cut (with a film of grease on top). You meant you now have a skinhead?

Sorry about the confusion, mate.
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: matty1878 on July 30, 2011, 06:58:47 PM
Oh right, it's just that on the picture you have a Chav cut (with a film of grease on top). You meant you now have a skinhead?

Sorry about the confusion, mate.

 thats the one lad
Title: Re: Nzogbia
Post by: Gash on July 30, 2011, 07:46:38 PM
I think it's safe to say that thread has run it's course now.