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Title: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 10, 2013, 09:33:38 AM
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Everton FC v Liverpool FC
Goodison Park
Saturday 23rd November 12:45
Premier League Match 12


Everton's last 5 domestic matches 2013/2014:

Manchester City 3-1 Everton (Lukaku)
Everton 2-1 Hull (Mirallas, Pienaar)
Aston Villa 0-2 Everton (Lukaku, Osman)
Everton 0-0 Tottenham
Crystal Palace 0-0 Everton



Liverpool's last 5 domestic matches 2013/2014:

Liverpool 3-1 Crystal Palace (Suarez, Sturridge, Gerrard Pen)
Newcastle 2-2 Liverpool (Gerrard Pen, Sturridge)
Liverpool 4-1 West Brom (Suarez x3, Sturridge)
Arsenal 2-0 Liverpool
Liverpool 4-0 Fulham (Amorebieta OG, Skrtel, Suarez x2)





Everton


Saturday's stalemate at Crystal Palace was a disappointment to say the least, however it shouldn't take the shine of a great start to the season. Should Everton have won at the weekend, it would have equalled the club's record points tally after 11 games. As it stands, Everton have exactly the same amount of wins, draws and defeats as they did at this stage of the season last year with 20 points.

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The most amount of points Everton have gained after 11 games of a season came in 2004-05, the same season they finished 4th place in the league. Last season, Everton scored a third more goals than this season whilst also conceding 4 more goals. However in the 2012-13 season, it wasn't until the 30th game of the season that Everton achieved 6 clean sheets in the league, a feat already achieved this season.

Only 4 current Everton players have a Merseyside derby goal to their name. They have come at 3 different grounds with Steven Naismith and Leon Osman scoring at Goodison last season whilst Sylvain Distin is the only player to have scored at Anfield in a memorable 2-2 draw and Nikica Jelavic scored at Wembley. Dixie Dean has the most derby goals of any player in blue with 18 league goals and 1 in the FA Cup.




Possible Line Ups

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Liverpool


Liverpool continued their fine home form at the weekend as they picked up their 5th victory in 6 home games this season. Only Chelsea have amassed more points (16), though Manchester City have won 5 in 5 at home. Their away form has also been good going into this fixture with 8 points from a possible 15, only Arsenal (13), Tottenham (10), Manchester United (9) and Everton (9) have picked up more. Overall, only Arsenal (22) have scored more goals this season than Liverpool (21).

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Liverpool have made a massive improvement on last season at this stage. Rodgers struggled to get Liverpool going at the beginning of his tenure but as you can see they have almost double the amount of points than last season after 11 games. Liverpool achieved their most points tally after 11 games in the 2002-03 season when they sat top of the table with 27 points. However, it meant little in the end as Liverpool managed just 5th place in the league despite that unbeaten run.

Only 2 current Liverpool players have derby goals to their name. Steven Gerrard has the most of either side with 8 goals overall whilst Luis Suarez has 3 including 2 goals at Goodison Park last season. Ian Rush was Liverpool's most prolific derby day striker with 13 goals in the league and 25 goals overall against Everton.




Match stats and Injuries

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Everton have 4 injury problems going into this game. Darron Gibson is out with an ACL Knee injury which will see him for most of the season whilst Arouna Kone also has a serious knee injury and will miss out. Apostolos Vellios is nursing a knock but Antolin Alcaraz is due to be fit after 4 months of injury set backs.

Liverpool are expected to have all but 2 players available at their disposal. Sebastian Coates also has an ACL injury which will put him out for most of the season and Iago Aspas is likely to be out for a further 3 weeks with a Thigh muscle strain.

James McCarthy and Lucas Leiva both went into last weekend on 4 yellow cards and in danger of missing out. However both managed to avoid a yellow card and will be available for the match.

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This is the 221st Merseyside derby. It is the most played top flight derby in England and being played for the 51st successive season.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: phillyt on November 10, 2013, 02:36:42 PM
I can't help but feel we are going to.get embarased here, despite our clean sheets we are giving away too many chances. Suarez is on fire atm and if he gets in behind  he will punish us. I hope I'm wrong obviously but that  is just the horrible feeling I'm getting just now. Hopefully, as the cliche goes, the formbook will go out the window.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 10, 2013, 02:42:18 PM
Massive test to see what Roberto Martinez is made of. If we lose this we could lose a lot of ground on the teams we are aiming to be amongst.

We are owed a big performance from a few players.

I'll be honest, Luis Suarez terrifies me. Pains me to say it but he is probably the best player in the league and he is bang in form. Keeping him quiet would go a long way to helping us get a result.

Sadly I can't see anything other than us bottling it as we have done for the majority of my adult life in these games. Please prove me wrong Everton
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2013, 03:45:18 PM
I think their style suits our new style and as long as we don't revert to type we have a good chance. The problem we will have is that fans won't want to see us passing it around the back in a derby but if we don't do that and show patience they will kill us off. Roberto needs to be smart for this one and as Stealth says this is a real test for him, possibly his first one.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 10, 2013, 03:53:31 PM
If you care about keeping your hands, you wouldn't offer me a derby point right now!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 10, 2013, 04:03:40 PM
As usual I'm shitting myself for this one. I don't rate their side at all, especially the midfield but as we've seen Rat face can win games own his own and from nothing. I can't even think of a way to nullify his threat. We're going to have to ride our luck to get anything out of this game I think.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Alanvideo on November 10, 2013, 04:14:59 PM
Spurs came to Goodison and battered us first half but couldn't score . It could be more of the same against the shite ,I fancy us if we score first ,otherwise 0-0. Wonder which kopite ref we'll get ?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Redartin on November 10, 2013, 04:18:32 PM
What is RM's record like against Liverpool, and Shark face in particular.

Yesterday one of the commentators said that RM's teams had never won a game at Palace. It's strange how these bogeys exist and continue.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 10, 2013, 04:21:47 PM
Spurs came to Goodison and battered us first half but couldn't score . It could be more of the same against the shite ,I fancy us if we score first ,otherwise 0-0. Wonder which kopite ref we'll get ?

The difference to Spurs is that they've got the league's two top scorers.

I we offer the same chance to them as we have to Palace, Spurs, Villa and even Hull it'll look a long way back at half time.

The flip side is that you rarely play the same way against no hopers like Palace as you do against such an obvious threat as Suarez.

Even if it's subconsciously there's extra concentration when you come up against those kind of players.

Overall I'm hoping that the more frenetic pace of the game will enable us to be a bit more direct (in terms of speed, not length necessarily) with our passing which would clearly be an improvement.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 10, 2013, 04:28:04 PM
What is RM's record like against Liverpool, and Shark face in particular.

Yesterday one of the commentators said that RM's teams had never won a game at Palace. It's strange how these bogeys exist and continue.

Well he won at Anfield in 11/12.

But then I remember them stuffing Wigan at the DW last season.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gumpinio on November 10, 2013, 04:42:32 PM
I can't see us keeping a clean sheet, or even keeping them to a single goal.  Suarez is in great form and Sturrdige is no mug.  I just hope we can get Lukaku some service, otherwise it might be embaressing.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2013, 04:43:19 PM
I think we need to have a bit of perspective here though and not build them up as if they are some sort of leviathan. If Sturridge or Suarez are poor they don't have a lot else going for them.  Our defence and midfield are better than there's and Lukaku could be the difference this time round.

If fans and players go into this with the same old defeatist attitude we will get what we deserve.  A new manager, a new approach a win is well within us.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: phillyt on November 10, 2013, 05:00:43 PM
I think we need to have a bit of perspective here though and not build them up as if they are some sort of leviathan. If Sturridge or Suarez are poor they don't have a lot else going for them.  Our defence and midfield are better than there's and Lukaku could be the difference this time round.

If fans and players go into this with the same old defeatist attitude we will get what we deserve.  A new manager, a new approach a win is well within us.

Your asking a lot for suarez and sturridge to be poor, they are consistent as anything just now. But its not just them, they have coutinho back, Henderson seems to be performing reasonably well and then there is gerrard, if he turns up like he often does in derbies he will cause us issues. I'm sure come matchday hysteria and bravado will take over and ill be shouting about how we will smash em but just now I'm not feeling good about it, and that feeling has 2 long weeks to fester.

With a bit of luck suarez will snap his Achilles on international duty.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2013, 06:08:25 PM
We just have to hope that Saurez, Sturridge and Gerrard all suffer career ending injuries within the next two weeks.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 10, 2013, 06:17:41 PM
Think everyone is being a tad pessimistic here. Suarez as good as he is,  is prone to a stupid red card. Both teams will make mistakes its up to us to take advantage. Theyre great going forward but very suspect on the back foot. If we control the game we'll win. If we are erratic we will lose.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2013, 06:19:14 PM
Think everyone is being a tad pessimistic here. Suarez as good as he is,  is prone to a stupid red card. Both teams will make mistakes its up to us to take advantage. Theyre great going forward but very suspect on the back foot. If we control the game we'll win. If we are erratic we will lose.

Agreed.

I hate the fact there's nothing between now and the game though. Two weeks of stewing.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 10, 2013, 06:23:07 PM
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Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 10, 2013, 06:23:29 PM
Two weeks for international duty to fuck either team over.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: whirlwind82 on November 10, 2013, 06:25:49 PM
Think everyone is being a tad pessimistic here. Suarez as good as he is,  is prone to a stupid red card. Both teams will make mistakes its up to us to take advantage. Theyre great going forward but very suspect on the back foot. If we control the game we'll win. If we are erratic we will lose.

Don't think Suarez has ever been sent off for them? Agree with the rest of the post though! The last team of any quality they played pissed all over them. We need to stop worrying about what they have and concentrate on our own qualities.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 10, 2013, 06:26:47 PM
Think everyone is being a tad pessimistic here. Suarez as good as he is,  is prone to a stupid red card. Both teams will make mistakes its up to us to take advantage. Theyre great going forward but very suspect on the back foot. If we control the game we'll win. If we are erratic we will lose.

I'm not sure if we control the game that we will win!

didn't happen yesterday!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 10, 2013, 06:29:53 PM
Yeah but Palace are a stronger side than Liverpool mate you're forgetting that.  ;D
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Good Citizen on November 10, 2013, 06:38:37 PM
Is Suarez not on a 4000 mile round trip for international duty and only getting back a day or so before the game? Hopefully he'll be knackered and jet lagged.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2013, 06:59:52 PM
Yeah, but it's not like he'll be traveling economy class though.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Danny on November 10, 2013, 07:04:40 PM
My mate said Liverpool never win after international breaks, don't know how true that is.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 10, 2013, 07:07:30 PM
Chill. Its Liverpool's destiny to beat us twice & win the league this season so its as good a chance as any for RM to relax, blood the youngsters & give the lads on international duty a well-earned rest.


Don't tell that to Edbootle though as he was around when there was no derby match as these cunts were in the second division.


Hola!


Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Alanvideo on November 10, 2013, 07:18:04 PM
Chill. Its Liverpool's destiny to beat us twice & win the league this season so its as good a chance as any for RM to relax, blood the youngsters & give the lads on international duty a well-earned rest.


Don't tell that to Edbootle though as he was around when there was no derby match as these cunts were in the second division.


Hola!



......so was I mate . As I keep reminding my kopite mates ,Liverpool are relative newcomers to top flight football.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 10, 2013, 07:34:46 PM
Hopefully Howard continues his good form, we will probably need him.

At least we've kept 6 clean sheets in 11 premier league games, including our last 3.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Redartin on November 10, 2013, 07:51:44 PM
Hopefully Howard continues his good form, we will probably need him.

At least we've kept 6 clean sheets in 11 premier league games, including our last 3.

And who, if anyone, thought that would have been the case when RM took over.

Who would have given West Brom a chance yesterday, or even Newcastle today.

Let's have some positivity. COYB
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Blue Lagoon on November 10, 2013, 08:03:38 PM
I have a bad feeling about this game but that's partly because yesterday's draw feels like a loss. Besides I think I always have a bad feeling about derby games.
We can win this though, they're on form for sure but we've got the quality to undo that good form of theirs. Their defence is their weakest link I think, so we need to go at them from the off in the same manner we did against Newcastle - I very much doubt we'll overrun them in quite the same manner but that's the mentality we need to have. We also really need to pick the pace up somewhat, we seem to have been very slow in the build up of late.
I expect them to have plenty of possession so Mirallas and Barkley have to start for me for their pace - it's not for me a game to start Osman.
A wee injury or lost passport for Suarez on his international break however would be lovely.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: charlatan on November 10, 2013, 08:10:21 PM
They are shite, front two apart.  Unfortunately Rat and Sturridge know where the net is unlike our shot shy front 6.  Can see it being either 1-3 or 1-4 with us down to 9 or 10 men, Mccarthy is a cert to be red carded.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 10, 2013, 08:21:51 PM
All this bullshit that McCarthy is inevitably destined for a red card is getting out of hand, he's never been sent off in his professional career.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: pjk on November 10, 2013, 08:47:14 PM
I'm not sure about you lot?  But, if we play to our full potential aka the first half against Newcastle, we will still have a tough game on our hands. Howard and Barry were the only two players who turned up for the shift yesterday. Maybe that’s a bit unfair on Pienaar  who worked  hard, but was ineffectual. We could have lost by two or three goals yesterday against Crystal Palace!!!  "Yeah Crystal Palace”!  Any repeat of yesterday’s dross?  Will very likely end in a nasty defeat at home from our biggest rivals. Grow a pair Roberto and hit them with an aggressive 442. Gerrard can still play full pelt for an hour or so. Once he’s off the pitch we will have a lot less to deal with. Suarez will have to be marked if he’s not going to affect the result like he undoubtedly can. I’m still hoping for a good result. I Just don’t expect anything if the team from yesterday turn up.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Good Citizen on November 10, 2013, 08:56:15 PM
Fuck all that, we'll beat then 4-0 and go above them.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 10, 2013, 09:16:02 PM
They are shite, front two apart.  Unfortunately Rat and Sturridge know where the net is unlike our shot shy front 6.  Can see it being either 1-3 or 1-4 with us down to 9 or 10 men, Mccarthy is a cert to be red carded.

What a load of shite. Where's all this McCarthy red card stuff coming from?

Two weeks to go and we've lost this game before a ball's even been kicked. 
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: charlatan on November 10, 2013, 09:23:47 PM
All this bullshit that McCarthy is inevitably destined for a red card is getting out of hand, he's never been sent off in his professional career.

He should have been sent off twice already for us, and if he puts one of those challenges in on our lovely neighbours, on the likes of Captain Cockface or The Rat, you can guarantee they'll be rolling around on the floor like they've been shot while whichever biased gobshite running the game won't be able to get a red card out of his arse pocket quick enough
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: charlatan on November 10, 2013, 09:29:33 PM
What a load of shite. Where's all this McCarthy red card stuff coming from?

Two weeks to go and we've lost this game before a ball's even been kicked. 

See my answer to Samwise.  If we play remotely like we have done against Palace and Spurs, with a complete lack of tempo, and half the side not turning up, against the shite, we will get torn a new one.  While Moyes might have gone, most of the squad that he's spent the last 10 years making them shit themselves every time we play them, are still there, and Martinez will need to perform a real miracle of psychology to get them out of this mindset.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 10, 2013, 09:32:38 PM
See my answer to Samwise.  If we play remotely like we have done against Palace and Spurs, with a complete lack of tempo, and half the side not turning up, against the shite, we will get torn a new one.  While Moyes might have gone, most of the squad that he's spent the last 10 years making them shit themselves every time we play them, are still there, and Martinez will need to perform a real miracle of psychology to get them out of this mindset.

That's the spirit, positive as ever.

If our fans mindset is anything to go by,he'll need more than a miracle.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 10, 2013, 09:34:10 PM
See my answer to Samwise.  If we play remotely like we have done against Palace and Spurs, with a complete lack of tempo, and half the side not turning up, against the shite, we will get torn a new one.  While Moyes might have gone, most of the squad that he's spent the last 10 years making them shit themselves every time we play them, are still there, and Martinez will need to perform a real miracle of psychology to get them out of this mindset.

a bit like Joe Royle did?

his first derby was in November too....
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: charlatan on November 10, 2013, 09:35:45 PM
That's the spirit, positive as ever.

If our fans mindset is anything to go by,he'll need more than a miracle.
  U know me ;)

a bit like Joe Royle did?

his first derby was in November too....

Indeed Si, we can but hope,
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 10, 2013, 09:36:27 PM
  U know me ;)

Indeed Si, we can but hope,

there are similarities that I will go into in more detail once I have something confirmed, but Martinez and Royle could have a similar first season in charge at Everton...
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: charlatan on November 10, 2013, 09:38:31 PM
there are similarities that I will go into in more detail once I have something confirmed, but Martinez and Royle could have a similar first season in charge at Everton...

Hmm, interesting
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 10, 2013, 09:38:37 PM
Fans mindset doesn't make too much of a difference, there'l be a great atmosphere at the game.  We have a terrible record against these though, they are above us in the league, playing better football and scoring more goals so you would have to say they are favourites

Not impossible for us to get a result, though if I am being honest I expect us to be beaten
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: charlatan on November 10, 2013, 09:39:49 PM
Fans mindset doesn't make too much of a difference, there'l be a great atmosphere at the game.  We have a terrible record against these though, they are above us in the league, playing better football and scoring more goals so you would have to say they are favourites

Not impossible for us to get a result, though if I am being honest I expect us to be beaten

You negative bastard Stealth ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 10, 2013, 09:40:20 PM
Holy fuckin' shit, the doom mongers out in force already, can't be arsed with this shit. I'll be in the General/Sunscriber's.

See yers on the 24th.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 10, 2013, 09:42:52 PM
Fans mindset doesn't make too much of a difference, there'l be a great atmosphere at the game.  We have a terrible record against these though, they are above us in the league, playing better football and scoring more goals so you would have to say they are favourites

Not impossible for us to get a result, though if I am being honest I expect us to be beaten

We could be ten points clear of them, there would still be a suicide watch going here.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: charlatan on November 10, 2013, 09:43:54 PM
I don't do optimism in Derby's any more.  A day at Wembley in April 2012 saw to that
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 10, 2013, 09:44:13 PM
......so was I mate . As I keep reminding my kopite mates ,Liverpool are relative newcomers to top flight football.

And what do they say?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2013, 10:03:17 PM
3 games ago people would be backing us to take them. Two mediocre results (and the Spurs one was a good point) and we are suddenly destined to get battered.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Alanvideo on November 10, 2013, 10:03:18 PM
And what do they say?
........they usually say - it's your round  :cheers:
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 10, 2013, 10:05:01 PM
I don't do optimism

Fixed.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 10, 2013, 10:06:12 PM
Strange comments in here! I guess yesterdays draw adds to the 'inevitable' bottling against the shite though. The past 2 games have seen me rethink whether i actually believe we have an outstanding team, it seems the drive has gone a bit, especially first half against spurs when no one could even be arsed to tackle!
I think the most important thing will be if Barkley starts, if he does i think we can win this, he will actually shoot which is something no one else has been doing, and he will chase and tackle etc. We need him to drive us forward. People may say he could be a loose cannon with the emotion of the derby but i think we need that emotion put back into the team.
Im dreading The two cunts up front and hoping some psycho runs onto the pitch with a machete and takes off Sturridge's arms if he scores.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 10, 2013, 10:08:11 PM
Cant blame Moyes for the negative attitude he had in this game when are fans are even worse.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2013, 10:10:42 PM
Cant blame Moyes for the negative attitude he had in this game when are fans are even worse.

Which came first though? I can't remember now!

Strange comments in here! I guess yesterdays draw adds to the 'inevitable' bottling against the shite though. The past 2 games have seen me rethink whether i actually believe we have an outstanding team, it seems the drive has gone a bit, especially first half against spurs when no one could even be arsed to tackle!
I think the most important thing will be if Barkley starts, if he does i think we can win this, he will actually shoot which is something no one else has been doing, and he will chase and tackle etc. We need him to drive us forward. People may say he could be a loose cannon with the emotion of the derby but i think we need that emotion put back into the team.
Im dreading The two cunts up front and hoping some psycho runs onto the pitch with a machete and takes off Sturridge's arms if he scores.

Outstanding is a stretch I think so far mate but we have a good side that hasn't quite clicked yet. Newcastle is more of an indication of what we are capable of than Palace for sure. I think people need to remember that Jags and Distin have hardly been destroyed by either Sturridge or Suarez particularly in any derby. They usually need a huge slice of luck.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 10, 2013, 10:16:51 PM
Outstanding is a stretch I think so far mate but we have a good side that hasn't quite clicked yet. Newcastle is more of an indication of what we are capable of than Palace for sure. I think people need to remember that Jags and Distin have hardly been destroyed by either Sturridge or Suarez particularly in any derby. They usually need a huge slice of luck.

I get excited easilly because i've only really seen shite or mediocre! That first half against Newcastle i felt like i was watching Barca!! So im even more gutted when we play so poor like the spurs and game yesterday.
Different set up though this time, i would be worrying about that stupid passing we do with Howard, and the defense. Suarez will love that for sure!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2013, 10:18:46 PM
I get excited easilly because i've only really seen shite or mediocre! That first half against Newcastle i felt like i was watching Barca!! So im even more gutted when we play so poor like the spurs and game yesterday.
Different set up though this time, i would be worrying about that stupid passing we do with Howard, and the defense. Suarez will love that for sure!

Yeah, they are going to have to be smart with Suarez and Sturridge pressing them. On the other hand, would think Barry will drop for the ball though leaving both of them flat and giving us space to attack through the midfield.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 10, 2013, 10:20:18 PM
Hate our fans.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 10, 2013, 10:23:10 PM
Yeah, they are going to have to be smart with Suarez and Sturridge pressing them. On the other hand, would think Barry will drop for the ball though leaving both of them flat and giving us space to attack through the midfield.

Yeah for sure, and with Barkley in there (hopefully) i think we can boss the midfield :)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 10, 2013, 10:24:33 PM
Hate our fans.

Apart from Lizz   :evil:
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: pjk on November 10, 2013, 10:39:23 PM
3 games ago people would be backing us to take them. Two mediocre results (and the Spurs one was a good point) and we are suddenly destined to get battered.





That's a fair point, and it's boring for people to go on with negatives. It's the manner of the last two performances. Two games where Barkley was available to start and two games where the body language of the players were different to the surge we witnessed in form and quality. I personally can't identify what has changed things from the team that was playing flowing football, to the team from last week v Spurs and yesterday against Palace. Mirallas is playing like Bily. Our defence is overworked on the opposition break. Seamus has lost that sparkle, and so on. If we turn up as a team all guns blazing we will have more than a chance. I think everyone who has seen us play this season are aware in the majority of games we have rode our luck. Playing against a quality strike force like Man City, or Liverpool? Any chances made, are likely to be converted not missed as in substandard attacking teams. Take Palace yesterday for example. Our team’s mind-set needs to be 100%. And at the moment it’s a cause for concern.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 10, 2013, 10:47:43 PM
Apart from Lizz   :evil:

Thanks darling :)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 10, 2013, 11:23:00 PM
........they usually say - it's your round  :cheers:

Bitter?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Good Citizen on November 10, 2013, 11:26:41 PM
I'm just looking forward to seeing Barkley up against Gerrard, that will interesting to watch, could be the making of the lad. Barkley's derby. Yep.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Alanvideo on November 10, 2013, 11:38:40 PM
Bitter?
..........anything but Carlsberg  lolol
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 11, 2013, 12:13:22 AM
Wonder how many posts this thread will end up with?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 11, 2013, 12:14:18 AM
Wonder how many posts this thread will end up with?

too many if they're the same as what has already been posted
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 11, 2013, 12:20:36 AM
too many if they're the same as what has already been posted

Then its time for http://smallseotools.com/plagiarism-checker/ (http://smallseotools.com/plagiarism-checker/)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Optimistic Blue on November 11, 2013, 12:43:23 AM
I am absolutely certain were going to whip these fuckers

Lukaku>SaS
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 11, 2013, 12:54:36 AM
Wonder how many posts this thread will end up with?

The mass suicide when the team is announced should keep it to fairly sensible levels.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: brammytheblue on November 11, 2013, 02:23:01 AM
Heard suarez could be out for this because he has a Uruguay match in Uruguay on the Wednesday so could be suffering from jetlag. anyone know anything ? could be blues making up something to make us feel better
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 11, 2013, 02:29:10 AM
Heard suarez could be out for this because he has a Uruguay match in Uruguay on the Wednesday so could be suffering from jetlag. anyone know anything ? could be blues making up something to make us feel better

There's a game but he's not going to miss the derby is he?!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Alanvideo on November 11, 2013, 02:32:16 AM
The mass suicide when the team is announced should keep it to fairly sensible levels.
.........Hibbert for Coleman ?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 11, 2013, 02:57:43 AM
Uruguay are playing Jordan, the match should be over after the first leg.

Match will finish about 01:30 on Thursday so he will definitely be back unless someone wants to delay a flight from Montevideo...
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Confucius on November 11, 2013, 03:14:45 AM
I bet if we go on RAWK the match thread will be all about how they should win and it's an easy 3 points etc etc, while we acting scared.

Man up boys
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 11, 2013, 03:26:27 AM
I bet if we go on RAWK the match thread will be all about how they should win and it's an easy 3 points etc etc, while we acting scared.

Man up boys

They've probably not even got a thread up yet?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Good Citizen on November 11, 2013, 03:36:54 AM
They've probably not even got a thread up yet?

It'll be somewhere just below the Shankly tribute poetry thread. The bunch of wordsmiths.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 11, 2013, 03:37:11 AM
I bet if we go on RAWK the match thread will be all about how they should win and it's an easy 3 points etc etc, while we acting scared.

Man up boys

Like we did for the palace game!

You never know in derbies...the one thing I do know is ill feel like vomiting come kickoff. Because of the butterflies and not the copious amount of pre match alcohol by the way!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 11, 2013, 03:52:35 AM
Like we did for the palace game!

You never know in derbies...the one thing I do know is ill feel like vomiting come kickoff. Because of the butterflies and not the copious amount of pre match alcohol by the way!
we are meeting at 8am. The day after will not be a good day
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: brap2 on November 11, 2013, 04:01:11 AM
i'm going to jump the gun here and dub this The McCarthy Derby.

take that whatever way you will!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 11, 2013, 04:01:33 AM
we are meeting at 8am. The day after will not be a good day

I can live with hangovers when everton have won.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: the doc on November 11, 2013, 04:12:51 AM
So far this season every home team in the derby has won, Arsenal, Man City, Sunderland and Cardiff, so lets get behind our team and make it hell for the reds, I'm saying 1-0
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 11, 2013, 04:25:43 AM
I can live with hangovers when everton have won.
true that
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: cantoffee on November 11, 2013, 07:14:21 AM
Hopefully I will be able to go to this. Probably cost me about 150 pounds but oh well. Would be rough if I pay that much and we get slaughtered though!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bally on November 11, 2013, 12:06:46 PM
I haven't really wanted to come in here, former knowledge made it inevitable that it would be full of crying we're gonna get beat, its only fucking Liverpool, the Mccarthy derby you say I'll be happy with that what I would be even happier with, is the not being able to pick a player derby because thwy were all that good, or the Barkley/Lukaku derby that'll do too. You all know I normally go for a draw against these but I think we will win it.

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: dunleerblue on November 11, 2013, 06:33:56 PM
I remember the 3-0 Andy Johnson win, going to the ground that day, the crowd had decided these bastards were going to get nothing, each and every one of us must be up for this and give them the twatting they truly deserve but somehow no-one ever does
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 11, 2013, 07:30:58 PM
Not gonna entertain thinking about this till at least next thursday
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: pjk on November 11, 2013, 09:04:37 PM
Not gonna entertain thinking about this till at least next thursday





HaHa.  No chance Jim.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on November 11, 2013, 09:36:43 PM
if they play 3-5-2 then I think that will minimize our attacking threat with just the one up top.

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 11, 2013, 09:49:49 PM
A few of the Liverpool fans think they'll play 4 at the back to be fair, even though the OP says otherwise.

Impossible to predict their line up to be honest.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 11, 2013, 10:47:38 PM
Be boss if he played Flannagan.

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: cantoffee on November 11, 2013, 10:56:53 PM
Looks like I might have some tickets. What's the top balcony like? I'm near the front so should be a decent view, but I imagine it must be cold up there.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 11, 2013, 11:01:04 PM
Looks like I might have some tickets. What's the top balcony like? I'm near the front so should be a decent view, but I imagine it must be cold up there.
Great view up there, wrap up warm tho
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 11, 2013, 11:01:13 PM
Looks like I might have some tickets. What's the top balcony like? I'm near the front so should be a decent view, but I imagine it must be cold up there.

Dont want to piss on your parade, but its shite up there. I'am scared of heights though.

Then again I doubt you care and you're just happy to have a ticket. Enjoy :)

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 11, 2013, 11:06:02 PM
Looks like I might have some tickets. What's the top balcony like? I'm near the front so should be a decent view, but I imagine it must be cold up there.

Top Balcony is ok if your fine with heights you get a good side on view of the pitch, that's my preference.

On a bad day though you can see Anfield
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: cantoffee on November 11, 2013, 11:08:04 PM
Dont want to piss on your parade, but its shite up there. I'am scared of heights though.

Then again I doubt you care and you're just happy to have a ticket. Enjoy :)



I was a little worried about the atmosphere up there, but I think with it being a derby it should be good.

I remember reading about how cold it is up there in a thread a few years ago but if I can't handle that kind of cold I wouldn't be a very good Canadian :)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 11, 2013, 11:21:20 PM
I was a little worried about the atmosphere up there, but I think with it being a derby it should be good.

I remember reading about how cold it is up there in a thread a few years ago but if I can't handle that kind of cold I wouldn't be a very good Canadian :)

Haha, it will be cold everywhere in the ground anyway.

I've only been up there once and we drew with Middlesbrough 1-1 a few days after Rhys Jones was killed, so it was pretty fucking flat. If we win tho you will literally be able to feel the ground shake up there.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 11, 2013, 11:24:21 PM
I was a little worried about the atmosphere up there, but I think with it being a derby it should be good.

I remember reading about how cold it is up there in a thread a few years ago but if I can't handle that kind of cold I wouldn't be a very good Canadian :)

I was up there for the Fiorentina game, it was rocking so atmosphere won't be a problem.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: cantoffee on November 11, 2013, 11:45:34 PM
Excited now, got myself a little chub going on.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 11, 2013, 11:49:42 PM
Excited now, got myself a little chub going on.

Where else are you going to visit?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: cantoffee on November 11, 2013, 11:59:11 PM
Where else are you going to visit?

I'm going to check out the Museum of Liverpool and maybe head to a restaurant at Albert Dock and walk around there as well. Might check out Liverpool One on the Sunday before I fly off to Barcelona.

Any other suggestions?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 12, 2013, 12:07:19 AM
I'm going to check out the Museum of Liverpool and maybe head to a restaurant at Albert Dock and walk around there as well. Might check out Liverpool One on the Sunday before I fly off to Barcelona.

Any other suggestions?

Can I recommend this place for your tea...it's not far from Albert Dock http://www.meetsteakhouse.co.uk (http://www.meetsteakhouse.co.uk).

It's by far the best steak I've ever had, plate is massive and sides are good quality. You won't regret it! See if you can smash a 24oz!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: cantoffee on November 12, 2013, 12:13:33 AM
Can I recommend this place for your tea...it's not far from Albert Dock http://www.meetsteakhouse.co.uk (http://www.meetsteakhouse.co.uk).

It's by far the best steak I've ever had, plate is massive and sides are good quality. You won't regret it! See if you can smash a 24oz!

Sounds great I'll check out it but I will not be eating a 24oz steak! I'd be in a food coma for about a week after that.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 12, 2013, 12:16:26 AM
I'm going to check out the Museum of Liverpool and maybe head to a restaurant at Albert Dock and walk around there as well. Might check out Liverpool One on the Sunday before I fly off to Barcelona.

Any other suggestions?

A little place called Fazakerley :)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 12, 2013, 12:59:14 AM
I'm going to check out the Museum of Liverpool and maybe head to a restaurant at Albert Dock and walk around there as well. Might check out Liverpool One on the Sunday before I fly off to Barcelona.

Any other suggestions?

You'd be far better going on the Beatles tour than wondering round a shopping centre on a Sunday.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: cantoffee on November 12, 2013, 01:08:28 AM
You'd be far better going on the Beatles tour than wondering round a shopping centre on a Sunday.

Cool, yea it was a suggestion from one of my gf's friends and I thought that as well but my gf might want to check it out.

Women Be Shoppin' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrd1_VVXsLw#ws)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 12, 2013, 01:14:39 AM
The Maritime Museum's well worth a look when you're down the Albert Dock.

Are the Yellow Duck Marines still grounded, might be best to see the city on a bus?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Alanvideo on November 12, 2013, 02:35:50 AM
The Maritime Museum's well worth a look when you're down the Albert Dock.

Are the Yellow Duck Marines still grounded, might be best to see the city on a bus?
.....I think the yellow ducks have been banned/withdrawn nationwide ,not just in Liverpool.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on November 12, 2013, 03:23:59 AM
Some people on here are talking as though Liverpool's away form has been invincible, they just about beat Villa and beat a poor Sunderland team with a caretaker manager in charge. Lucky to get a point at Swansea thanks to two gifts from their old boy and couldn't beat 10 man Newcastle. They were convincingly beaten by Arsenal. I'm more confident of getting something from this fixture than I would have with Moyes in charge that's for sure.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: benny on November 12, 2013, 04:22:42 AM
Reading all these defeatist comments makes me fuckin mad,if you are supposed to be Everton supporters god fuckin help us.I have always thought you go into every game with the intensions of WINNING the game even what the result may be.GET A FUCKIN GRIP OF YOURSELVES. :headbang:
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Confucius on November 12, 2013, 05:05:53 AM
Who else are you going to visit?

With little chubbie, most likely Rooney's Auld slapper
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 12, 2013, 05:16:40 AM
Reading all these defeatist comments makes me fuckin mad,if you are supposed to be Everton supporters god fuckin help us.I have always thought you go into every game with the intensions of WINNING the game even what the result may be.GET A FUCKIN GRIP OF YOURSELVES. :headbang:

I don't think the negative ones amongst us are saying we intend to get beat.  We all want to win this one, in fact probably more than any other game.  I just don't expect us to win this one
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 12, 2013, 05:28:59 AM
I was a little worried about the atmosphere up there, but I think with it being a derby it should be good.

I remember reading about how cold it is up there in a thread a few years ago but if I can't handle that kind of cold I wouldn't be a very good Canadian :)

Went to see a Europa League game with my dad and sat up there once. Around christmas. We were already through and played a team of youngsters. I have never been so cold in my life, i couldnt even remember the game i was so delirious hahaah
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 12, 2013, 05:47:17 AM
Went to see a Europa League game with my dad and sat up there once. Around christmas. We were already through and played a team of youngsters. I have never been so cold in my life, i couldnt even remember the game i was so delirious hahaah

Bate Borisov, Jose Baxter nearly scored with a lob.

I worked it, I was cold as well and had to walk home :(
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 12, 2013, 01:36:00 PM
if they play 3-5-2 then I think that will minimize our attacking threat with just the one up top.



Or they'll have too many defenders for 1 striker so they'll find it hard to pick up our attacking midfielders?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 12, 2013, 02:17:21 PM
Reading all these defeatist comments makes me fuckin mad,if you are supposed to be Everton supporters god fuckin help us.I have always thought you go into every game with the intensions of WINNING the game even what the result may be.GET A FUCKIN GRIP OF YOURSELVES. :headbang:

Calm down chief! It doesn't make you a better supporter to say we're going to win every game. Posting 'come on Everton' in block capitals isn't supporting the team in the slightest really.

Every evertonian in the ground will be backing everton to the hilt come the derby...despite what they predicted the outcome would be before hand.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: matty1878 on November 12, 2013, 02:20:11 PM
its basically as our " record" against these is dog turd. so you tell yourself " we wont get anything" as we generally dont. so therefore if " we do" its a bonus.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BrotherEstapol on November 12, 2013, 04:38:10 PM
Not favourites?

Bang on to snatch a win then. :)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 12, 2013, 05:30:08 PM
Barca kid to start?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 12, 2013, 05:40:35 PM
Barca kid to start?

i would like him too.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 12, 2013, 05:41:25 PM
It's a big risk but he is a potential game changer.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluenose 91 on November 12, 2013, 06:40:06 PM
Looks like I might have some tickets. What's the top balcony like? I'm near the front so should be a decent view, but I imagine it must be cold up there.

Best view in the ground I reckon.

Just avoid the Lower Gwladys.  Shite view and full of absolute helmets.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 12, 2013, 06:43:37 PM
Best view in the ground I reckon.

Just avoid the Lower Gwladys.  Shite view and full of absolute helmets.

Haha.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 12, 2013, 06:45:35 PM
Barca kid to start?

Being mooted through the Echo articles that Martinez wouldn't be afraid to use him.

Could be preparing the ground.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 12, 2013, 07:12:22 PM
Being mooted through the Echo articles that Martinez wouldn't be afraid to use him.

Could be preparing the ground.

Prob get injured now playing for spain u21
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Good Citizen on November 12, 2013, 07:43:53 PM
Being mooted through the Echo articles that Martinez wouldn't be afraid to use him.

Could be preparing the ground.

I'd suggest he wears double shin pads, Gerrard will be 2 foot dancing all over his ankles at the first opportunity.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Alanvideo on November 12, 2013, 07:49:24 PM
Being mooted through the Echo articles that Martinez wouldn't be afraid to use him.

Could be preparing the ground.
.........haven't the club got enough ground staff ?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 13, 2013, 01:20:19 AM
.........haven't the club got enough ground staff ?

Thats you grounded after that lid.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 13, 2013, 02:04:09 AM
I can't help but feel we are going to.get embarased here, despite our clean sheets we are giving away too many chances. Suarez is on fire atm and if he gets in behind  he will punish us. I hope I'm wrong obviously but that  is just the horrible feeling I'm getting just now. Hopefully, as the cliche goes, the formbook will go out the window.

"About now is the time they start being twitchy and nervous about the derby. If you encounter one of them ( and I do say that like they are a poisonous species ) then you'll be able to see it. You'll probably hear the words ' redshite bastards ' more often than usual and they will all be acting very tense and neurotic. The thought of losing a derby, to them, is worse than anything in life." RAWK

 :whistle:

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: brap2 on November 13, 2013, 02:30:02 AM
Barca kid to start?

love to just send him and ross out and just be like, lads, go and enjoy yourselves.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 13, 2013, 02:32:04 AM
Barkley can handle himself, I reckon Delofew will flap himself.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blueToffee on November 13, 2013, 02:58:37 AM
Barkley can handle himself, I reckon Delofew will flap himself.

Deulofeu comes across as being very calm, and you must have a pretty healthy amount of self confidence if you're on Barcelona's books. I think he'll do well given the chance.

I reckon he's due a goal too.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 13, 2013, 03:01:12 AM
Best view in the ground I reckon.

Just avoid the Lower Gwladys.  Shite view and full of absolute helmets.

I sit (stand) there!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 13, 2013, 03:04:11 AM
I sit (stand) there!!!!
me too lizz :-[
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 13, 2013, 04:28:02 AM
me too lizz :-[

I like the shit view!
Oh well, we shall be helmets together :D
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluenose 91 on November 13, 2013, 04:31:15 AM
From my experience of sitting in that part of the ground there seems to be a higher concentration of people who talk utter shite compared to other parts of the ground.

That must surely coincide with the fact you cant see anything that happens past the half way line.

This is obviously a bit tongue in cheek and I doubt you's two fall into the helmet category but I hate sitting in that part of the ground.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 13, 2013, 04:32:00 AM
The view from my armchair is fucking superb.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 13, 2013, 04:32:27 AM
I sat in the street end for years and loved it. Top balc is my second favourite.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 13, 2013, 04:33:48 AM
From my experience of sitting in that part of the ground there seems to be a higher concentration of people who talk utter shite compared to other parts of the ground.

That must surely coincide with the fact you cant see anything that happens past the half way line.

This is obviously a bit tongue in cheek and I doubt you's two fall into the helmet category but I hate sitting in that part of the ground.
think if you are at the back you can't see fuck all. Where I sit is genuinely a good view tho
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 13, 2013, 04:34:58 AM
The park end is so negative at times it does my head in. I wouldn't sit anywhere else though.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 13, 2013, 08:16:03 AM
i usually sit near the back and have to duck down to see sometimes, but its all i have known and love it. Full of knob heads yeah but a good atmosphere, especially in big games, you really cant beat it back there.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bally on November 13, 2013, 01:02:51 PM
I can't go in the Gwladys since they made it seats its just not the same, done it a few times to see if my mind changes, just cant do it though my old seat in the FE was excellent,  and Si's speck in the ground is excellent too.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: matty1878 on November 13, 2013, 02:03:48 PM
i sit near the away fans in the park end. it can be unbearable when were playing shite.or no atmosphere
but when were playing well and goodison is rocking its great,  especially after we score i just look around the whole ground  in awe its amazing
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 13, 2013, 02:38:17 PM
Family enclosure is a great view and you get to harass the players
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: DannyR on November 13, 2013, 02:44:50 PM
Family enclosure is a great view and you get to harass the players
This, used to terror the subs warming up until they swapped sides
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 13, 2013, 02:48:57 PM
This, used to terror the subs warming up until they swapped sides

I think poor Joel Robles hates me.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: DannyR on November 13, 2013, 02:56:49 PM
I think poor Joel Robles hates me.
Had a few times subs would shout back at me, pennant and babel did a few times
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: phillyt on November 13, 2013, 04:29:09 PM
"About now is the time they start being twitchy and nervous about the derby. If you encounter one of them ( and I do say that like they are a poisonous species ) then you'll be able to see it. You'll probably hear the words ' redshite bastards ' more often than usual and they will all be acting very tense and neurotic. The thought of losing a derby, to them, is worse than anything in life." RAWK

 :whistle:

To me its less about the fact uts "them" more about the chance to get a valuable 3pts and maybe move into the top four.  Although we are doing welli think the partnership they have has the potential to destroy our defence, and although we are keeping clean sheets our defence has looked rocky at times.

On a side note if those redshite bufoons don't think that winning/losing a local Derby is important then they clearly arnt proper fans are they.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Alanvideo on November 13, 2013, 05:33:43 PM
Thats you grounded after that lid.
........I knew you'd grass me up.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 13, 2013, 06:31:39 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24917007 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24917007)

And of course he'll be nice and refreshed to face us.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: matty1878 on November 13, 2013, 06:38:16 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24917007 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24917007)

And of course he'll be nice and refreshed to face us.

tbh he is usually up  for these games. he can win this on his own on form, lets just hope we actually give it a go they have other match winners to but so do we
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 13, 2013, 07:01:49 PM
not too fussed about who is missing for them. We've gone into these type games before with players missing ie FA Cup Semi without Reina, thinking it would be an easy ride and it wasn't.

Likewise the same has happened when we have gone into games with players missing and done the business ie Hibbert and Heitinga playing centre back against Man City in the infamous Straq standing ovation night!

All about how we perform on the day. Expect them to be at full strength personnel wise. We have to turn up for this one either way though, which we have failed to do on occasion in the past
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: matty1878 on November 13, 2013, 07:04:30 PM
not too fussed about who is missing for them. We've gone into these type games before with players missing ie FA Cup Semi without Reina, thinking it would be an easy ride and it wasn't.

Likewise the same has happened when we have gone into games with players missing and done the business ie Hibbert and Heitinga playing centre back against Man City in the infamous Straq standing ovation night!

All about how we perform on the day. Expect them to be at full strength personnel wise. We have to turn up for this one either way though, which we have failed to do on occasion in the past

i think thats why most of us are thinking the usual " we might get beat" as we dont turn up. so if we get something from the game like i say its a bonus
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: cantoffee on November 13, 2013, 09:52:07 PM
Would prefer if Jags, Baines and Barkley didn't play in both England matches.

Jags looked especially leggy after international duty last time.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 13, 2013, 10:56:21 PM
i think thats why most of us are thinking the usual " we might get beat" as we dont turn up. so if we get something from the game like i say its a bonus

"most of us" I think you mean "some of us"
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: matty1878 on November 13, 2013, 11:09:59 PM
"most of us" I think you mean "some of us"

possibly but i think theres "more thinking it than some"
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 13, 2013, 11:31:49 PM
possibly but i think theres "more thinking it than some"

We've lost once this season, our home record in 2013 is fantastic, we played some great football and got some wonderful talent in the squad. There's no reason to fear them, unless of course your an eternal pessimist?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: matty1878 on November 13, 2013, 11:53:24 PM
We've lost once this season, our home record in 2013 is fantastic, we played some great football and got some wonderful talent in the squad. There's no reason to fear them, unless of course your an eternal pessimist?

tell that  to everyone else  or others whos thinking the same sam
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 13, 2013, 11:55:39 PM
I give up long ago trying to get people to stop being so suicidal about the derby
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Danny on November 13, 2013, 11:57:32 PM
We've lost once this season, our home record in 2013 is fantastic, we played some great football and got some wonderful talent in the squad. There's no reason to fear them, unless of course your an eternal pessimist?
The only worry I have is that Luis Suarez manages to make a bellend out of Distin every time we play them, if they didn't have Suarez i'd think we were going to twat them.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 13, 2013, 11:58:11 PM
If we still had Moyes I'd be pessimistic about this, with Martinez though I feel much more confident.

Having said that I can only see a draw. Have we not won a derby since 2010?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 13, 2013, 11:59:00 PM
tell that  to everyone else  or others whos thinking the same sam

Everyone else and others who feel the same as matty1878 you are now given permission to read my former comments.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 14, 2013, 12:01:51 AM
The only worry I have is that Luis Suarez manages to make a bellend out of Distin every time we play them, if they didn't have Suarez i'd think we were going to twat them.

He's a danger to every team, he's a fantastic player. But they've not won every game he's played in, and he's far from superman.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: matty1878 on November 14, 2013, 12:04:10 AM
Everyone else and others who feel the same as matty1878 you are now given permission to read my former comments.

your confident then sam? i hope your right. just look at our record at goodison as away  its even worse. 1 win in 3 years? 2010 last time we beat them, forgive me for not being confident
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: matty1878 on November 14, 2013, 12:06:07 AM
an earlier post could be right was it silas? " new manager new tactics new approach" lets hope so!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 14, 2013, 12:07:37 AM
your confident then sam? i hope your right. just look at our record at goodison as away  its even worse. 1 win in 3 years? 2010 last time we beat them, forgive me for not being confident

Yeah fuck it lets not bother, in fact fuck the Utd game off, Arsenal to while where at it.

We should only play teams we've beaten in the last few years.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 14, 2013, 01:18:26 AM
........I knew you'd grass me up.

You'll be getting us turfed out.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 14, 2013, 01:19:44 AM
To me its less about the fact uts "them" more about the chance to get a valuable 3pts and maybe move into the top four.  Although we are doing welli think the partnership they have has the potential to destroy our defence, and although we are keeping clean sheets our defence has looked rocky at times.

On a side note if those redshite bufoons don't think that winning/losing a local Derby is important then they clearly arnt proper fans are they.

Aye, its always our cup final to lose.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 14, 2013, 01:21:16 AM
I give up long ago trying to get people to stop being so suicidal about the derby

Wasn't it a redshite fan who committed suicide at half time of the CL final against Milan?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 14, 2013, 01:23:15 AM
Wasn't it a redshite fan who committed suicide at half time of the CL final against Milan?

And they were only kidding it was his round.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: charlatan on November 14, 2013, 05:16:06 AM
And they were only kidding it was his round.

Do you know how much beer is in Norway? ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Dr. Sponge on November 14, 2013, 07:42:37 AM
If we play to our potential we'll win, because I believe we're a better team than they are. Their two forwards carry them, with some decent performances from Henderson and Gerrard in games.

Barkley and Lukaku (Bukakey) to start, Mirallas too. Although I'd like to see Deulofeu be given the nod.

Someone on here said that Mirallas plays best on the left, which is a good point especially when you remember last year's derby at Goodison, but would you drop Pienaar? Probably not, even though he doesn't seem to play particularly well in big games, offensively.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Dr. Sponge on November 14, 2013, 07:43:02 AM
Could also be a wise decision to bring Naismith back into the fold.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 14, 2013, 05:47:51 PM
Christ, this Century are our only wins against these the 3-0 AJ mauling, The 1-0 Carsley game, The FA Cup Gosling game and the 2-0 Cahill/Arteta 2010 game?

4 wins in the last 29?

Lots of draws I suppose

Lets sort that record out hey?!

Kind of understand why the misery guts like Sir Stealth and Matty1878 aren't expecting a win!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 14, 2013, 06:57:35 PM
Christ, this Century are our only wins against these the 3-0 AJ mauling, The 1-0 Carsley game, The FA Cup Gosling game and the 2-0 Cahill/Arteta 2010 game?

4 wins in the last 29?

Lots of draws I suppose

Lets sort that record out hey?!

Kind of understand why the misery guts like Sir Stealth and Matty1878 aren't expecting a win!

That doesn't help.

Also they're only 1 win behind us in the number of derbies won at Goodison.

Think we've got 40 and they're on 39.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 14, 2013, 08:50:39 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/sPhD8KD.jpg)


Come on guys, Believe!

3 defeats in our last 36 league home games.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blueToffee on November 15, 2013, 01:23:10 AM
Ha, thought the last one on the list was a scoreline for half a second :)

Shows how confident I am I guess.  :eh:
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: goodison4 on November 15, 2013, 04:28:35 PM
i honestly think it will be a good win this time for us - for a change 2 nil
but he MUST play barkley just behind lukaku - thats our best offensive formation :whistle:
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 15, 2013, 06:53:28 PM
Blarg, d'you wanna just tell us what happens at the end of the derby now and put us out of our misery, so we can all relax and concentrate on other things for the next week and a half?  ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 15, 2013, 07:05:01 PM
Yeah. We get stuffed 4-0.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 15, 2013, 07:08:01 PM
What was Jimmy saying the other day about never being allowed to forget anything on here?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 15, 2013, 07:12:56 PM
I really really hate this international break.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 15, 2013, 07:13:25 PM
Everton have got a great home record, and is something to be envious of if you ask me.  Fortress-like!

It's going to be anyone's game to be honest.  With both managers attack minded, this should be a lot better than the derby at Anfield last season, how fucking dull was that!

I'd say it is a tough one to call, it can go any way, but I'm going for a slight lean towards Liverpool on this one.  Feel free to berate me afterwards. ;-)

As for Liverpool being carried by our strikeforce that's just laughable.  One of them never played for a good percentage of those games, it was the Gerrard show last weekend, and Mignolet certainly proved his worth in some of the opening games (memorably the penalty vs Stoke, and a great save against Villa).  I personally think credit needs to be given throughout the team.  If Martinez just concentrates on those two players, he'll regret it I'm sure.

May the best team win.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 15, 2013, 07:16:15 PM
Everton have got a great home record, and is something to be envious of if you ask me.  Fortress-like!

It's going to be anyone's game to be honest.  With both managers attack minded, this should be a lot better than the derby at Anfield last season, how fucking dull was that!

I'd say it is a tough one to call, it can go any way, but I'm going for a slight lean towards Liverpool on this one.  Feel free to berate me afterwards. ;-)

As for Liverpool being carried by our strikeforce that's just laughable.  One of them never played for a good percentage of those games, it was the Gerrard show last weekend, and Mignolet certainly proved his worth in some of the opening games (memorably the penalty vs Stoke, and a great save against Villa).  I personally think credit needs to be given throughout the team.  If Martinez just concentrates on those two players, he'll regret it I'm sure.

May the best team win.

You were saying Gerrard was slipping up until last game mate.  You have some good players but it is Sturridge and Suarez that are a threat. Everyone else is relatively easy to deal with by comparison.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Alanvideo on November 15, 2013, 07:30:47 PM
You were saying Gerrard was slipping up until last game mate.  You have some good players but it is Sturridge and Suarez that are a threat. Everyone else is relatively easy to deal with by comparison.
.............we won't mention Gerrard's hat trick 2 seasons ago then.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 15, 2013, 08:35:03 PM
Their central midfield pairing of Gerrard and Lucas is by far their weakest area.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 15, 2013, 08:37:39 PM
Careful. That slimeball always raises his game against us. Even when he's played poorly. And he has a couple of weeks off resting right now.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 15, 2013, 08:40:19 PM
Yeah he can turn it on but he's not the force he was. Fancy Barry to do a job on him.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 15, 2013, 08:44:06 PM
Steven Gerrard leads the assist charts. The lad can still ping passes for fun.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 15, 2013, 08:45:01 PM
Doesn't mean he not a good player, I just think it's a poor partnership in the centre of midfield. Henderson manages to cover it up with his running but it really can be exploited. Don't rate Cissokho either.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 15, 2013, 08:46:36 PM
Doesn't mean he not a good player, I just think it's a poor partnership in the centre of midfield. Henderson manages to cover it up with his running but it really can be exploited. Don't rate Cissokho either.

Agree with all of that. If we're going to win this, we'll win it in midfield and Osman absolutely can not start this game for us to have a chance.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 15, 2013, 08:46:39 PM
Mirallas has assists for us too. It means he is still dangerous but not in great form.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 15, 2013, 08:52:53 PM
Doesn't mean he not a good player, I just think it's a poor partnership in the centre of midfield. Henderson manages to cover it up with his running but it really can be exploited. Don't rate Cissokho either.

I agree, still though the stats show he's still a danger.

McCarthey and Barry could control that for us though.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: hill135 on November 15, 2013, 09:35:58 PM
The lad can still ping passes 60 yards and out for a throw-in for fun.

Fixed
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: steve81 on November 15, 2013, 09:51:03 PM
wish we could avoid this game i hate playing them as we never turn up
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: matty1878 on November 15, 2013, 10:06:34 PM
wish we could avoid this game i hate playing them as we never turn up

i agree mate - but its a new manager new team new tactics and if goodison is rocking you just dont know.
lets hope martinez will know our record against the rs and will want to keep goodison a fortress and also to change are fortunes against these
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 15, 2013, 10:10:17 PM
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Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 15, 2013, 11:25:10 PM
The mods have abandoned us!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 15, 2013, 11:32:46 PM
You were saying Gerrard was slipping up until last game mate.  You have some good players but it is Sturridge and Suarez that are a threat. Everyone else is relatively easy to deal with by comparison.

I was saying Gerrard looked leggy and could do with a rest. He's now been declared he's been carrying a slight knock. Kinda proving my point.

Whatever I say doesn't matter, the fact is that Gerrard played a cracking game with 3 assists, so to say it's just our front 2 is niave.

Coutinho is another one to watch. ;-)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 15, 2013, 11:34:43 PM
It was against possibly the worst current team in the premier league at home.

And yes in fully aware we couldn't beat the other contender for that title haha
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 15, 2013, 11:35:18 PM
Mirallas has assists for us too. It means he is still dangerous but not in great form.

Player of the Goodison derby last season for you guys till he got took off. Caused us all sorts of problems.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 15, 2013, 11:42:03 PM
Player of the Goodison derby last season for you guys till he got took off. Caused us all sorts of problems.

''Til he got took off''.....you're having a laugh there mate. Until Suarez stamped on him, the horrible little twat. Not to mention the Distin one.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 16, 2013, 12:37:45 AM
Player of the Goodison derby last season for you guys till he got took off. Caused us all sorts of problems.

He was and he's incredibly talented but he's not been oour best player often enough for me.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 16, 2013, 01:00:06 AM
''Til he got took off''.....you're having a laugh there mate. Until Suarez stamped on him, the horrible little twat. Not to mention the Distin one.

This one?

Suarez foul on Distin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR87sm9vc5k#ws)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Confucius on November 16, 2013, 01:07:54 AM
Tis thread is 14 pages long and it wouldn't be fair on the Kevin Nolan's of the world if this wasn't said...


Luis Suarez is a cunt
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 16, 2013, 01:46:00 AM
Luis Huarez really is a cunt.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 16, 2013, 01:46:36 AM
Huis Suarez really is a cunt.

Is that Luis brother?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 16, 2013, 01:48:11 AM
Huis Suarez and The News.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Confucius on November 16, 2013, 01:51:50 AM
Is that Luis brother?

Cousin, pronounced Hughie
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 16, 2013, 05:44:35 AM
I was saying Gerrard looked leggy and could do with a rest. He's now been declared he's been carrying a slight knock. Kinda proving my point.

Whatever I say doesn't matter, the fact is that Gerrard played a cracking game with 3 assists, so to say it's just our front 2 is niave.

Coutinho is another one to watch. ;-)

stop winking its creepy
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Blue Lagoon on November 16, 2013, 07:00:09 AM
Round a mates tonight and one of the guys round there was a shite fan I haven't seen in years.
Spent ages telling me how great Brendan Rogers is and how they're going to win the league in the next two years. Was then on about how Hodgeson is a great manager and needs time to get it right with England. I asked what he thought about Hodgeson's time at the shite and he point blank refused to believe that he had ever managed them. Fucking beyond retarded, it's gobsmacking.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 16, 2013, 07:06:15 AM
Rodgers is actually doing a great job there, it's just that he's an idiot when he opens his mouth.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Blue Lagoon on November 16, 2013, 04:18:05 PM

Rodgers is actually doing a great job there, it's just that he's an idiot when he opens his mouth.
agree - he's doing very well for them at present . Can't stand him but I can't argue with their form or current league placing.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 16, 2013, 05:18:44 PM
Rodgers is actually doing a great job there, it's just that he's an idiot when he opens his mouth.

Not sure about "great" Shogs, certainly doing a well. But then you'd expect it given the amount of money he's spent. Even then though he's wasted about £30m on poor players, and some of this summers transfers look far good business.

Lets not forget he took over a team who'd just made 2 finals and won one cup, it's not like they where relegation candidates or complete no hopers.  We may laugh at Dalglish for his surly attitude, terrible PR skills and poor transfer decisions but he won a trophy and beat the top teams.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Danny on November 16, 2013, 05:27:30 PM
Not sure about "great" Shogs, certainly doing a well. But then you'd expect it given the amount of money he's spent. Even then though he's wasted about £30m on poor players, and some of this summers transfers look far good business.

Lets not forget he took over a team who'd just made 2 finals and won one cup, it's not like they where relegation candidates or complete no hopers.  We may laugh at Dalglish for his surly attitude, terrible PR skills and poor transfer decisions but he won a trophy and beat the top teams.

Liverpool can afford the odd bad purchase though because they have a lot more money than the likes of us, we'll have to wait and see what happens with them getting in the CL or not this year to judge him or not though.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 16, 2013, 05:27:42 PM
Huis Suarez and The News.

In South America this music is acceptable
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 16, 2013, 05:56:15 PM
Liverpool can afford the odd bad purchase though because they have a lot more money than the likes of us, we'll have to wait and see what happens with them getting in the CL or not this year to judge him or not though.

I understand what your saying, but in reality no club can afford to lose money on the odd bad purchase, unless of course your City or Chelsea. The fact is to date his best purchases have been Sturridge and Coutinho, and probably Toure. When you look at the others no one stands out, and they've spent an awful lot of cash, as usual. I'd even go so far as to say he's been very poor in the transfer market, paying over the odds continually and wasting a lot of money. Scratch the surface away, and there's very little below in that squad.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 16, 2013, 06:09:45 PM
I don't think their first 11 is up to much, never mind squad. Yes they've had a good start, results wise but they've only beat teams they should have (apart from a poor utd). They certainly haven't dominated many of their games and have looked very ordinary against better sides.

Sturridge being on form early on along with Suarez now has bought them points pretty much single handedly.

Also the games I've seen this season Brendan's passing philosophy, which apparently he invented, hasn't been present. They've scraped a lot of wins without playing well, Sunderland, man utd, Stoke. Whilst it wouldn't bother me how we won Rogers wants to come across as some football revolutionary and genius...it's very clear he isn't.

They'll fall away after christmas when the fixtures are not as kind as they have been for them.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 16, 2013, 07:22:42 PM
''Til he got took off''.....you're having a laugh there mate. Until Suarez stamped on him, the horrible little twat. Not to mention the Distin one.

I was just making a point and you use it to have a go at Suarez. Don't you think I know what he did? I could score points off you guys regarding that match but you know what, I can't be arsed.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 16, 2013, 07:32:28 PM
I don't think their first 11 is up to much, never mind squad. Yes they've had a good start, results wise but they've only beat teams they should have (apart from a poor utd). They certainly haven't dominated many of their games and have looked very ordinary against better sides.

Sturridge being on form early on along with Suarez now has bought them points pretty much single handedly.

Also the games I've seen this season Brendan's passing philosophy, which apparently he invented, hasn't been present. They've scraped a lot of wins without playing well, Sunderland, man utd, Stoke. Whilst it wouldn't bother me how we won Rogers wants to come across as some football revolutionary and genius...it's very clear he isn't.

They'll fall away after christmas when the fixtures are not as kind as they have been for them.

Reading that you wouldn't have thought Liverpool were 2nd, and 2pts behind the leaders.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 16, 2013, 07:33:52 PM
They're nowhere near as shit as our fans think, and they're nowhere near as good as their fans think.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 16, 2013, 07:34:17 PM
As Eddie states, you've not really played anyone good yet. You're beating the teams you should be beating. Also, there's only 3 points between 7th and 2nd, it's that tight.

We'll see at the end of the season though.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 16, 2013, 07:35:41 PM
You could say the same thing about us, only played Spurs and Chelsea.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 16, 2013, 07:55:22 PM
Reading that you wouldn't have thought Liverpool were 2nd, and 2pts behind the leaders.

You would considering I acknowledged your good start results wise.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blueToffee on November 16, 2013, 08:25:00 PM
You could say the same thing about us, only played Spurs and Chelsea.

Woah, woah, woah...let's not forget Norwich.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 16, 2013, 08:43:56 PM
You could say the same thing about us, only played Spurs and Chelsea.

And City. We're only 3 points behind them.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: dunleerblue on November 17, 2013, 12:04:13 AM
I watched England today totally bottle it in first 3 minutes, and realised that is the essence of winning, go out and believe in yourself and win and that is the same for all of us go out and enjoy beating the unacepptable face of Liverpool, and to make sure you are with me put a bet on to mAKE THE DAY COMPLETE,
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sirblue57 on November 17, 2013, 01:32:32 AM
I was just making a point and you use it to have a go at Suarez. Don't you think I know what he did? I could score points off you guys regarding that match but you know what, I can't be arsed.

when it comes to pointing fingers mate, be very careful. some of the things done by stevie,"don't dive" would make suarez baulk. and i won't mention dirk "high karate" kuyt ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 17, 2013, 07:51:57 AM
I doubt this year's version of the rs have a particularly great squad outside the front men.

Their strikers are intimidating their opponents for 90 mins... that's really all they need to win games.

This derby will be same old same old... if we play with "bottle it" mentality, we lose.  Get stuck in and press them, I think we'll take a point or 3.

gobs#ite kopites talk as if the derby is no big deal... their players never seem to agree!  >:(

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 17, 2013, 03:15:45 PM
when it comes to pointing fingers mate, be very careful. some of the things done by stevie,"don't dive" would make suarez baulk. and i won't mention dirk "high karate" kuyt ;)

And here we go again. Another person who decides to use a point I was making to score some cheap points and get some digs in. You just couldn't help yourself. Pathetic.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 17, 2013, 03:19:22 PM
It is quite dull this "cunt off" thing.

Anyhow, I reckon our cunts are going to smash your cunts BWS.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 17, 2013, 06:48:49 PM
And here we go again. Another person who decides to use a point I was making to score some cheap points and get some digs in. You just couldn't help yourself. Pathetic.

I agree BWS, all this point scoring nonsense is childish and pathetic...

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Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 17, 2013, 07:01:49 PM
Some of our fans are really pathetic.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: dunleerblue on November 17, 2013, 09:09:36 PM
why do people like wooden spoon write on this site, go to your own site
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jamokachi on November 18, 2013, 08:34:18 AM
why do people like wooden spoon write on this site, go to your own site

Behave, he's free to use whatever football forums he wants, and he's been here a damn site longer than you.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 18, 2013, 07:18:21 PM
Sturridge hobbled out of England training injured apparently.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: matty1878 on November 18, 2013, 07:32:33 PM
Sturridge hobbled out of England training injured apparently.

we have to beat whatever 11 they put out. they have  had players out before and we have still shit ourselves and been beat.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 18, 2013, 07:34:16 PM
He will then miraculously recover for the derby
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: matty1878 on November 18, 2013, 07:36:27 PM
He will then miraculously recover for the derby

of course he will
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 18, 2013, 08:26:16 PM
Sturridge hobbled out of England training injured apparently.

Roy Hodgson says Daniel Sturridge is fine and that last week he couldn't take part in training much as he was having treatment but his injury has been improving and the only reason he came off in the training game was to give Rickie Lambert a chance at centre-forward.

Jags will be starting as well.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 18, 2013, 09:42:37 PM
It's making me cringe how are fans are so assed about Sturridge and Gerrard playing/not playing for England. You do all know that they have quite a few more players on international duty, boys?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 18, 2013, 09:45:12 PM
Think it'll be a poor match, or at least take a while to get going.

Both sides have too many players on international duty.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 18, 2013, 09:46:44 PM
Does it really matter though?

Im not so sure its actually that important.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 18, 2013, 09:50:39 PM
Does it really matter though?

Im not so sure its actually that important.
Which? having lots of players on international duty?

I think it does, it only gives you a couple of days to prepare properly and train in certain ways.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 18, 2013, 10:27:10 PM
Phil Dowd is referee.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 18, 2013, 10:30:14 PM
Makes no diff who refs as some of the decisions will have us baffled as per usual.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 18, 2013, 10:34:18 PM
I like Dowd, seems to take no shit.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 18, 2013, 10:39:56 PM
Yep happy with Dowd, good ref...well at least till Saturday
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: School of Science on November 18, 2013, 11:54:37 PM
Dowd is the best ref around atm happy with this choice and a little more optimistic
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 19, 2013, 12:01:55 AM
All the refs are shite anyway so it doesn't matter who it is. There is worse than him though at least.

In all derbys they should not book anyone in the first half hour. Can see it being a proper stop start game

Would love to win it with a proper snide late goal that shouldnt stand but does!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 19, 2013, 12:07:04 AM
All the refs are shite anyway so it doesn't matter who it is. There is worse than him though at least.

In all derbys they should not book anyone in the first half hour. Can see it being a proper stop start game

Would love to win it with a proper snide late goal that shouldnt stand but does!
that late goal being disallowed last year was genius. Had it stood I would have lost my record and been suicidal
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Stumpy on November 19, 2013, 01:44:54 AM
That's good news about Phil Dowd having the whistle on saturday,he's head and shoulders above the dross we have to put up with week in week out.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 19, 2013, 02:20:47 AM
Yep happy with Dowd, good ref...well at least till Saturday

I remember thinking clattenberg was having a decent game at half time in his derby...his mate Stevie must've had a word at half time ;).

I don't mind dowd too much. He seems less likely to be bullied which I can't say about too many refs these days.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 19, 2013, 02:23:23 AM
I remember thinking clattenberg was having a decent game at half time in his derby...his mate Stevie must've had a word at half time ;).

I don't mind dowd too much. He seems less likely to be bullied which I can't say about too many refs these days.

Yeah he is prone to an error, but he takes no shit from players which is good. The best a referee can perform in a derby is that he doesn't get noticed.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 19, 2013, 02:34:32 AM
Yeah he is prone to an error, but he takes no shit from players which is good. The best a referee can perform in a derby is that he doesn't get noticed.

I can accept errors from officials, they are only human etc. What I can't accept is the spineless decisions we see week in week out.

A recent example being the Chelsea penalty v west brom...there's no way he would've gave that at the other end. John moss for us v city treated us to 90 mins of spineless decisions. Phil Dowd seems to have a big more honesty about him...not the best by any means but atleast he appears to have a spine.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: itsmyprtyanimromelulukaku on November 19, 2013, 03:50:13 AM
i fuckin hate Kopites

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 19, 2013, 04:15:44 AM
hahaha that photo of Gerrard exercising next to Dowd.... oh dear.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 19, 2013, 08:04:05 AM
This is his first game reffing the shite this season. He did our game v Newcastle
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: david smallman on November 19, 2013, 01:47:01 PM
I just hope we don't play like we have in the last 2 matches.
We need to be up for this.
No tippy tappy shite in our own half with the buck toothed diver playing or he will punish us.
We need to hit them hard and not let them settle.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 19, 2013, 02:31:18 PM
I just hope we don't play like we have in the last 2 matches.
We need to be up for this.
No tippy tappy shite in our own half with the buck toothed diver playing or he will punish us.
We need to hit them hard and not let them settle.

"blood and guts, first tackle counts, no need for the ball in the first 20 minutes, it's all about passion and desire, who wants it more...."




 :snigger:
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: matty1878 on November 19, 2013, 02:58:10 PM
i also think martinez knows it will show if we can compete " with the so called top 4 chasing pack"
its a derby, form goes out the window its evertons chance to make amends for our previous encounters
against this lot. to me a " plan" doesnt work in a game like this as you have to mix it up and still it can take just once chance, one moment of brilliance. come on everton lets do this shit and be counted lets get goodison rocking like it can.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 19, 2013, 03:27:49 PM
i also think martinez knows it will show if we can compete " with the so called top 4 chasing pack"
its a derby, form goes out the window its evertons chance to make amends for our previous encounters
against this lot. to me a " plan" doesnt work in a game like this as you have to mix it up and still it can take just once chance, one moment of brilliance. come on everton lets do this shit and be counted lets get goodison rocking like it can.

Didn't we "compete" with Chelsea and Spurs already this season? Two superior teams to Liverpool, two teams that do actually compete for the top four as opposed to our loveable neighbours who are usually competing for 7th.

Of course we need to stick to a game plan Matty it's not a Sunday league game.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: matty1878 on November 19, 2013, 03:37:57 PM
a game plan in a derby?  i woudnt say they work. this isnt " spurs or chelsea" tho is it sam? its liverpool its a team we seem to fear more than any other. well we did previously, lets hope we settle this come saturday but in derbys you cant, predict nor tell what will happen.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 19, 2013, 03:53:07 PM
a game plan in a derby?  i woudnt say they work. this isnt " spurs or chelsea" tho is it sam? its liverpool its a team we seem to fear more than any other. well we did previously, lets hope we settle this come saturday but in derbys you cant, predict nor tell what will happen.

So what you're say is that you want Martinez to just put 11 players out on the pitch without a game plan (I prefer the term "tactics") because we're playing Liverpool?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 19, 2013, 04:01:15 PM
a game plan in a derby?  i woudnt say they work. this isnt " spurs or chelsea" tho is it sam? its liverpool its a team we seem to fear more than any other. well we did previously, lets hope we settle this come saturday but in derbys you cant, predict nor tell what will happen.

Your right Matty it's not Spurs or Chelsea, there not as good as either. Your original post said "i also think martinez knows it will show if we can compete " with the so called top 4 chasing pack"
So I've pointed out that there's enough evidence to suggest regardless of this result we can and have already competed "with the so called top 4 chasing pack".

As for the game plan not working shit, are you seriously suggesting Bobby tells the team to "just get out there and win"?? 

You talk about us fearing them, yet want us to abandon all our previous tactics and principles just because it's Liverpool and "game plans don't work", rather than impose our play and tactics on them like any team with confidence and no fear would do. You can't have it both ways Matty.

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 19, 2013, 04:08:17 PM
a game plan in a derby?  i woudnt say they work. this isnt " spurs or chelsea" tho is it sam? its liverpool its a team we seem to fear more than any other. well we did previously, lets hope we settle this come saturday but in derbys you cant, predict nor tell what will happen.

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/cute-fight.gif)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 19, 2013, 04:19:16 PM
Liverpool will no doubt be playing a reverse inverted defensive wingattack so we will have to have the tactics to counter that.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: matty1878 on November 19, 2013, 04:24:55 PM
Obviously a manager sets up a team with a plan Jesus. I'm saying in a derby I can't see how it will work. As a plan usually goes out the window. And fair enough Sam this will be our third " test" then won't it with the top 4 wannabes. It doesn't matter if Chelsea and Tottenham are better than Liverpool doesn't mean we will play as good as we have. Add to that its a local derby but we shall see.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 19, 2013, 04:27:05 PM
Of course we need to stick to a game plan Matty it's not a Sunday league game.

I can just imagine Match of the Day highlights on Saturday night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEcon2jxVkM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEcon2jxVkM)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 19, 2013, 04:28:41 PM
Obviously a manager sets up a team with a plan Jesus.

Is a plan Jesus in case Plan A and B don't work?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 19, 2013, 04:31:38 PM
Surely Jesus would be plan J? Allah is plan A
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 19, 2013, 04:39:32 PM
Is a plan Jesus in case Plan A and B don't work?

Plan Jesus, is a defensive drill for defenders. It's designed to deal with specific situations when the ball is projected into the penalty area from either wing, the object is to stop the attacking player scoring
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 19, 2013, 04:41:39 PM
Plan Jesus, is a defensive drill for defenders. It's designed to deal with specific situations when the ball is projected into the penalty area from either wing, the object is to stop the attacking player scoring

Ah right, I thought it was maybe "panic mode"?

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/JmBkN.gif)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: matty1878 on November 19, 2013, 04:56:47 PM
Ha ha we will need him to win Saturday! ( Jesus)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Blue Lagoon on November 19, 2013, 05:00:55 PM
As long as Plan Jesus has nothing to do with forgiving the ref for his sins I'll go with it.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 19, 2013, 06:39:59 PM
I just hope we don't play like we have in the last 2 matches.
We need to be up for this.
No tippy tappy shite in our own half with the buck toothed diver playing or he will punish us.
We need to hit them hard and not let them settle.

Yes let's not pass it, let's play long ball to a lone striker with no support...the tactics moyes used for most of his derbies with practically no success.

I'm looking forward to a different approach, it might turn the derby form tables around. Gone are the days where you can rely on passion to win these games...the passion should still be there but it should have a decent game plan to go with it.

If there's one thing Martinez sides have proven is that they don't go into a game with fear. Unfortunately we've gone into every derby with fear the past decade or so. With that I mind we might just show these twats for what they are.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: david smallman on November 19, 2013, 06:49:42 PM
Yes let's not pass it, let's play long ball to a lone striker with no support...the tactics moyes used for most of his derbies with practically no success.

I'm looking forward to a different approach, it might turn the derby form tables around. Gone are the days where you can rely on passion to win these games...the passion should still be there but it should have a decent game plan to go with it.

If there's one thing Martinez sides have proven is that they don't go into a game with fear. Unfortunately we've gone into every derby with fear the past decade or so. With that I mind we might just show these twats for what they are.
I am not suggesting not passing the ball just not in our own half so much we are a mistake waiting to happen with goofy about.
We need to take the game to them play in their half,let the fullbacks bomb foreward and play with a quicker tempo.
We need passion and spirit I just hope Martinez understands what a derby is about
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 19, 2013, 06:54:00 PM
Liverpool will no doubt be playing a reverse inverted defensive wingattack so we will have to have the tactics to counter that.

Ah, the old false RIDWA. Cue Dambusters......
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: MmmblueBernard on November 19, 2013, 06:55:04 PM
Fucking hell. 19 pages in already and weve not fookin kicked off yet.

This thread is going to Burrens. I can feel it.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 19, 2013, 07:06:37 PM
I am not suggesting not passing the ball just not in our own half so much we are a mistake waiting to happen with goofy about.
We need to take the game to them play in their half,let the fullbacks bomb foreward and play with a quicker tempo.
We need passion and spirit I just hope Martinez understands what a derby is about

Whats that actually mean?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: david smallman on November 19, 2013, 07:10:57 PM
Whats that actually mean?
What it says
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 19, 2013, 07:19:27 PM
What it says

So your insinuating that Martinez doesn't understand that the makeup of a derby game includes passion and spirit, and he's never understood it. Even though he's been a professional footballer and manager for 25 years. 

Don't be so stupid.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: david smallman on November 19, 2013, 07:38:31 PM
So your insinuating that Martinez doesn't understand that the makeup of a derby game includes passion and spirit, and he's never understood it. Even though he's been a professional footballer and manager for 25 years. 

Don't be so stupid.
I am saying he has never been involved in a Merseyside derby before and I hope he realises the passion needed.
why is that stupid?
I do worry how laid back he is and if he is getting through to the players regarding desire and spirit because a lot of the players don't seem to be performing like they were last season.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 19, 2013, 07:40:26 PM
I think plan Jesus is implemented only on crosses.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 19, 2013, 07:43:14 PM
I think plan Jesus is implemented only on crosses.

 :badum:
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 19, 2013, 07:54:31 PM
'John Henry is offering his private jet to speed up Luis Suarez’s return for the Merseyside derby'..........


 :woohoo:




Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Confucius on November 19, 2013, 08:03:44 PM
And Bill Kenwright offered Oviedo a row boat.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 19, 2013, 08:05:02 PM
I am saying he has never been involved in a Merseyside derby before and I hope he realises the passion needed.
why is that stupid?
I do worry how laid back he is and if he is getting through to the players regarding desire and spirit because a lot of the players don't seem to be performing like they were last season.

Oh so what your now saying is a Merseyside derby requires more passion and spirit than other derbies. That some how you need more passion and spirit for this derby than you would if it was a Manchester derby or a Birmingham derby, or Glasgow or Madrid or where ever.

Well that's just more bullshit.

You talk about him being laid back. But you do realise that that's his public persona, unless you have first hand experience you dont know any different to everyone's else what his attitude is like behind the scene, away from the cameras.

You also make it sound like its a bad thing exuding a calm influence, like theres no positives from being relaxed when all around you people's emotions are effecting their judgment and performances in a negative way. Footballs changed a hell of a lot since the days of managers pinning players up against the changing room wall because they aren't trying hard enough.

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 19, 2013, 08:07:26 PM
He's done the Swansea-Cardiff derby and if you heard the way he responded to Laudrup's relaxed attitude towards that derby on five live the other week then you'd know he knows what is required.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: david smallman on November 19, 2013, 08:14:11 PM
Oh so what your now saying is a Merseyside derby requires more passion and spirit than other derbies. That some how you need more passion and spirit for this derby than you would if it was a Manchester derby or a Birmingham derby, or Glasgow or Madrid or where ever.

Well that's just more bullshit.

You talk about him being laid back. But you do realise that that's his public persona, unless you have first hand experience you dont know any different to everyone's else what his attitude is like behind the scene, away from the cameras.

You also make it sound like its a bad thing exuding a calm influence, like theres no positives from being relaxed when all around you people's emotions are effecting their judgment and performances in a negative way. Footballs changed a hell of a lot since the days of managers pinning players up against the changing room wall because they aren't trying hard enough.


Listen we have different opinions so what that's what a forum is for.
You don't need to disrespect to get a point across I am not disrespecting you.
We will see Saturday how things pan out.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: charlatan on November 19, 2013, 08:23:28 PM
If Martinez is somehow unaware of what these games mean (which I am not having for one minute), a quick word in his shell-like from a certain Scottish youth coach in our setup would soon change that.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 19, 2013, 08:30:50 PM
Listen we have different opinions so what that's what a forum is for.
You don't need to disrespect to get a point across I am not disrespecting you.
We will see Saturday how things pan out.

disrespectful?

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: itsmyprtyanimromelulukaku on November 19, 2013, 09:00:53 PM
And Bill Kenwright offered Oviedo a row boat.

You orr to know better mate.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 19, 2013, 09:01:41 PM
And Bill Kenwright offered Oviedo a row boat.

Oars?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 19, 2013, 09:52:31 PM
they haven't even sold out their allocation
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 19, 2013, 10:00:31 PM
they haven't even sold out their allocation

It's not a big game for them, if it was they'd send a private jet for there top striker so that he was back fresh for the game, oh wait.........................
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 19, 2013, 10:04:24 PM
It's not a big game for them, if it was they'd send a private jet for there top striker so that he was back fresh for the game, oh wait.........................

To be fair if they get 3 points don't they win the league for a few hours?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Alanvideo on November 19, 2013, 10:15:46 PM
they haven't even sold out their allocation
..........in fairness the early kick-off means a 6 a.m. start from Oslo.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 19, 2013, 10:16:41 PM
AND their tickets have been reduced as part of the FA's "enhancing away fans experience" rubbish
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blue slug on November 19, 2013, 11:01:49 PM
Cheap tickets and still not sold allocation thats fucking shocking Si
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: matty1878 on November 19, 2013, 11:14:16 PM
they haven't even sold out their allocation

how do you know this si? thats crazy you would think they would sell there allocation.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 19, 2013, 11:15:02 PM
how do you know this si? thats crazy you would think they would sell there allocation.

still advertising on their OS mate

not many, but still tickets left
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: matty1878 on November 19, 2013, 11:22:13 PM
still advertising on their OS mate

not many, but still tickets left

cheers si. amazing support.... my eye
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 19, 2013, 11:26:20 PM
AND their tickets have been reduced as part of the FA's "enhancing away fans experience" rubbish

Will tickets at the Anfield derby be about half the price of recent seasons then ? nod
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Alanvideo on November 19, 2013, 11:59:44 PM
still advertising on their OS mate

not many, but still tickets left
.............couldn't resist a peek into the dark side. I have to compliment them on still using our old badge.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 20, 2013, 12:01:56 AM
I'm very surprised they haven't sold out yet. As much as I hate them lot you can't usually knock their away support, second only to utd in my opinion....with us in 3rd.

However I feel obliged to post this...

(http://s24.postimg.org/oaqm8kak5/image.jpg)

They just keep on giving don't they!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 20, 2013, 12:44:17 AM
We never buy tickets
So we're off to the pub
With red hearts & voices
We'll support our club
From the pub

(Its good in the pub coz its warm and has a toilet and everything but this bit won't fit unless we turn the sheet around like)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 20, 2013, 12:49:20 AM
It makes me laugh when they say they can't get tickets, as if they've tried. The majority of them have no intention of going the match.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 20, 2013, 01:30:25 AM
match referees Phil Dowd and Steven Gerrard getting their story straight

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZdSGYmCEAAzbrJ.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 20, 2013, 02:05:15 AM
match referees Phil Dowd and Steven Gerrard getting their story straight

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZdSGYmCEAAzbrJ.jpg:large)

Is that a recent picture?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 20, 2013, 02:10:47 AM
Is that a recent picture?
all new sponsors and that. Been doing the rounds on fb over the weekend
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 20, 2013, 02:22:29 AM
all new sponsors and that. Been doing the rounds on fb over the weekend

I know they're just in the gym and that but surely the match official for an upcoming match shouldn't be rubbing shoulders with one of the captains. Same goes for jags.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 20, 2013, 02:24:27 AM
Im sure that's from a while back. I really wouldn't read anything into it.

No doubt a lot of our fans will though
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 20, 2013, 02:36:27 AM
Im sure that's from a while back. I really wouldn't read anything into it.

No doubt a lot of our fans will though

I agree. I don't think there's anything sinister going on, if it is from this week...especially with jags in the camp. Just shouldn't really be done in my opinion.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 20, 2013, 02:43:03 AM
The rest of the England squad is probably in the same room.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: itsmyprtyanimromelulukaku on November 20, 2013, 03:43:46 AM
you just know it's happening, always happens to us but nobody says a word.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 20, 2013, 03:52:41 AM
you just know it's happening, always happens to us but nobody says a word.

Do you just cut and paste stuff randomly from google?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 20, 2013, 04:20:22 AM
It makes me laugh when they say they can't get tickets, as if they've tried. The majority of them have no intention of going the match.

Most 'kopites' I've met on me travels haven't been to Anfield and make no bones about telling me about the great day they'll be able to make the trek when they build a bigger stadium so they can all fit in.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 20, 2013, 04:40:58 AM
they haven't even sold out their allocation

<Goes on Everton website. Introduced with half-price season tickets. Laughs.>

Tell me again how many turned up for Tony Hibberts testimonial. Less than half full you say???

Any one else sick of this tit for tat shit? It's like being in a playground.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 20, 2013, 04:48:50 AM
<Goes on Everton website. Introduced with half-price season tickets. Laughs.>

Tell me again how many turned up for Tony Hibberts testimonial. Less than half full you say???

Any one else sick of this tit for tat shit? It's like being in a playground.

Half price for half a season...surely you're not expecting them to charge full price?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 20, 2013, 04:50:25 AM
I still don't get why we get stick for the half season tickets.

 
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sirblue57 on November 20, 2013, 04:56:47 AM
<Goes on Everton website. Introduced with half-price season tickets. Laughs.>

Tell me again how many turned up for Tony Hibberts testimonial. Less than half full you say???

Any one else sick of this tit for tat shit? It's like being in a playground.
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Maybe it's because  of the shot your lot come out with about waiting  lists to get in the game.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 20, 2013, 05:02:52 AM
I still don't get why we get stick for the half season tickets.

 

It's obvious, it's because it's small time and they have a big long waiting list.

Fuck knows what Hibbert's testimonial has do with anything though.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 20, 2013, 05:03:40 AM
It's obvious, it's because it's small time and they have a big long waiting list.

Fuck knows what Hibbert's testimonial has do with anything though.
it's cos they all went to carras and then they all went to his bar after too
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 20, 2013, 05:27:43 AM
Any one else sick of this tit for tat shit? It's like being in a playground.

What do you expect though? The only tit for tat comes from you getting all precious at any criticism of Liverpool. I've said before, but as a Liverpool fan posting on an Everton forum, what do expect to hear, especially in the run up to a local derby, our undying love for you? The fact is, your club hasn't sold out their allocation four days from kick off, and that fact has been posted on an Everton forum, this isn't really anything unusual, so it's you that's causing the tit for tat arguments all the time by trying to counter things that Evertonians have posted about Liverpool, if you don't like it, no one is forcing you to come on here.

I just don't understand what you expect from this forum or any other Everton forum?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 20, 2013, 05:34:07 AM
What do you expect though? The only tit for tat comes from you getting all precious at any criticism of Liverpool. I've said before, but as a Liverpool fan posting on an Everton forum, what do expect to hear, especially in the run up to a local derby, our undying love for you? The fact is, your club hasn't sold out their allocation four days from kick off, and that fact has been posted on an Everton forum, this isn't really anything unusual, so it's you that's causing the tit for tat arguments all the time by trying to counter things that Evertonians have posted about Liverpool, if you don't like it, no one is forcing you to come on here.

I just don't understand what you expect from this forum or any other Everton forum?

Attention.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 20, 2013, 06:49:03 AM
<Goes on Everton website. Introduced with half-price season tickets. Laughs.>

Tell me again how many turned up for Tony Hibberts testimonial. Less than half full you say???

Any one else sick of this tit for tat shit? It's like being in a playground.

(http://p.playserver1.com/ProductImages/0/6/0/0/8/1/2/3/32180060_700x700min_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 20, 2013, 01:07:30 PM
Tell you what, I'll start an Everton thread up that I'll post up everything bad about efc, you'll soon see how pathetic it looks.

The reason I brought up Hibberts testimonial is because we're getting stick for not selling our allocation of tickets for a derby...yet. But when you don't even get half a staduim full for one of your loyal servants it smacks of hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 20, 2013, 02:13:21 PM
Tell you what, I'll start an Everton thread up that I'll post up everything bad about efc, you'll soon see how pathetic it looks.

The reason I brought up Hibberts testimonial is because we're getting stick for not selling our allocation of tickets for a derby...yet. But when you don't even get half a staduim full for one of your loyal servants it smacks of hypocrisy.

We dont need you to do that, have you never been in the Everton Forum?

Cheers for the offer though bro
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 20, 2013, 03:47:29 PM
Tell you what, I'll start an Everton thread up that I'll post up everything bad about efc, you'll soon see how pathetic it looks.

The reason I brought up Hibberts testimonial is because we're getting stick for not selling our allocation of tickets for a derby...yet. But when you don't even get half a staduim full for one of your loyal servants it smacks of hypocrisy.

You don't need to start a thread on here, just go onto pretty much any Liverpool forum, they'll have one there. Like I said, if you don't like what you see here don't bother coming on, it really is as simple as that.

And the Hibbert comparison is stupid, it was basically a mid week pre season friendly, not a derby match against your city rivals.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 20, 2013, 03:54:36 PM
And yet again a kopite goes into complete meltdown over a bit of light hearted banter.

Right here is why footballing banter in this city has become extinct
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 20, 2013, 04:00:18 PM
They're all breaking down over Sturridge playing last night.

They've even managed, YET AGAIN, to somehow drag Ferguson into it.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 20, 2013, 04:03:16 PM
They're all breaking down over Sturridge playing last night.

They've even managed, YET AGAIN, to somehow drag Ferguson into it.
Ha how is it Fergusons fault?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 20, 2013, 04:06:55 PM
(http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Steven+Gerrard+Everton+v+Liverpool+Premier+bruF6o-d7j3l.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/10/29/article-2224671-15BBAC66000005DC-468_634x431.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/10/29/article-2224671-15BBCD25000005DC-214_634x408.jpg)

 lolol
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 20, 2013, 05:23:18 PM
Tell you what, I'll start an Everton thread up that I'll post up everything bad about efc,

(http://forgifs.com/gallery/d/85573-2/Soccer_kick_fail.gif)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: itsmyprtyanimromelulukaku on November 20, 2013, 06:38:37 PM
gobshites all of them

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 20, 2013, 06:54:29 PM
You don't need to start a thread on here, just go onto pretty much any Liverpool forum, they'll have one there. Like I said, if you don't like what you see here don't bother coming on, it really is as simple as that.

And the Hibbert comparison is stupid, it was basically a mid week pre season friendly, not a derby match against your city rivals.

It's not a mid week pre season friendly though was it?  It was a chance for the fans to show their appreciation for a long serving player of the club.  Just because you didn't even half-fill the stadium don't try and turn it into something that it isn't.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 20, 2013, 06:58:24 PM
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't Liverpool's allocation of derby tickets now been sold out???

Premature reaction if ever I did see one.

"Oh, look look, Liverpool can't even sell.......oh they have!  Erm.  Yeah well, kopites are gobshites aren't they though!"
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 20, 2013, 07:05:01 PM
What do you expect though? The only tit for tat comes from you getting all precious at any criticism of Liverpool. I've said before, but as a Liverpool fan posting on an Everton forum, what do expect to hear, especially in the run up to a local derby, our undying love for you? The fact is, your club hasn't sold out their allocation four days from kick off, and that fact has been posted on an Everton forum, this isn't really anything unusual, so it's you that's causing the tit for tat arguments all the time by trying to counter things that Evertonians have posted about Liverpool, if you don't like it, no one is forcing you to come on here.

I just don't understand what you expect from this forum or any other Everton forum?

It's the hypocrisy that I'm getting at.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 20, 2013, 07:08:14 PM
(http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Steven+Gerrard+Everton+v+Liverpool+Premier+bruF6o-d7j3l.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/10/29/article-2224671-15BBAC66000005DC-468_634x431.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/10/29/article-2224671-15BBCD25000005DC-214_634x408.jpg)

 lolol

That last picture is a look of a man who has just been robbed.

...oh, that's because he was!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 20, 2013, 07:09:04 PM
It's not a mid week pre season friendly though was it?  It was a chance for the fans to show their appreciation for a long serving player of the club.  Just because you didn't even half-fill the stadium don't try and turn it into something that it isn't.

It was a little disappointing but it was pretty much expected. Tony Hibbert was never going to be a player that attracted anything more than a cult following for his testimonial.  A testimonial isn't really a reflection of support though.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't Liverpool's allocation of derby tickets now been sold out???

Premature reaction if ever I did see one.

"Oh, look look, Liverpool can't even sell.......oh they have!  Erm.  Yeah well, kopites are gobshites aren't they though!"

Yes, three days before the game, not exactly rushing to get them. It's the perpetuated myth that Liverpool are so wonderfully supported that it's impossible to get a ticket to see them that gives people cause to skit them.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 20, 2013, 07:29:34 PM
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't Liverpool's allocation of derby tickets now been sold out???

If so, it's all the more ironic that you got all precious and fell off your high horse.

It's the hypocrisy that I'm getting at.

More irony.

Look, I've said twice already, if you don't like what is said about Liverpool on here, don't come on, no one is forcing you to. There's rarely going to be any mutual respect or complimentary comments of Liverpool and that clearly winds you up. You then start claiming it's all tit for tat, when it's you that brings an argument to the place, it's not as if it's Evertonians defending Liverpool and you're just joining in with them. If you're going to come on here, don't moan if everything is seen from an Evertonian's point of view, and if you do moan, don't then be surprised when everyone starts having a go at you.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on November 20, 2013, 07:50:36 PM
I'm sure half the the stadium was closed for Hibberts game.  They never had all the ground open.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 20, 2013, 08:02:32 PM
I'm sure half the the stadium was closed for Hibberts game.  They never had all the ground open.

Actually you're right.

I seem to remember the club sending an email that said due to the sheer volume of applications for tickets it was better for 30,000 to miss out than 10,000 if we'd opened up the whole ground. Those 10,000 would have felt excluded in comparison to the 40,000 who were allowed to attend.

"To provide testimony to our Tony
silence is our pride"

Or something.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 20, 2013, 08:39:57 PM
They're all breaking down over Sturridge playing last night.

They've even managed, YET AGAIN, to somehow drag Ferguson into it.

He played? Never noticed. That Gerrard photo sequence is ace. Printed & framed for our kid the kopite just in time for chrimbo unless the twat scores a hat trick on Saturday. Which I'm sure he will if Gerrards asks him to play like.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 20, 2013, 08:49:23 PM
Did Ferguson make Rooney play more than any other English player over the internationals as well?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 20, 2013, 08:57:19 PM
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't Liverpool's allocation of derby tickets now been sold out???

Premature reaction if ever I did see one.

"Oh, look look, Liverpool can't even sell.......oh they have!  Erm.  Yeah well, kopites are gobshites aren't they though!"

Mate, there's an Evertonian who posts on RAWK whom some seem to like being around for the you poor cunt you we're holier than thou for thou art not one of us malarkey. Most ignore him but he plods on regardless - making sense - sticking up for Everton & the fans & occasionally having a bit of a rant. Why he does it I don't know. Maybe you could ask him for us. Unless you're on the waiting list like?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 20, 2013, 09:06:03 PM
BWS you really are a strange person.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 20, 2013, 10:33:50 PM
<Goes on Everton website. Introduced with half-price season tickets. Laughs.>

Tell me again how many turned up for Tony Hibberts testimonial. Less than half full you say???

Any one else sick of this tit for tat shit? It's like being in a playground.

That last sentence of yours.... You come on here and partake in said tit-for-tat. Deal with it and stop trolling.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: On Timmy Cahills Head on November 20, 2013, 10:56:10 PM
That last picture is a look of a man who has just been robbed.

...oh, that's because he was!!!

Look for the picture of the foul by Coates before the ball was put in the net too
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 20, 2013, 11:16:08 PM
I am saying he has never been involved in a Merseyside derby before and I hope he realises the passion needed.

Just for you David.


Quote
Roberto Martinez, the Everton manager, believes there is no bigger fixture than the Merseyside derby and that Saturday’s clash has particular significance.
The Spaniard will take charge of his first showdown with Liverpool as Everton manager at Goodison Park in the lunchtime kick-off.
Martinez said: “It is a massive game. First and foremost, it’s a glamorous fixture.
“It’s one of those games that is followed worldwide and the significance, the passion and the history is reflected in the game.
“This one is more important because both teams are in the top six and both have had strong starts to the season.
“The points in the derby will be important in themselves.
“All in all, it’s as big a game in football you can get.”

Hope that puts your mind at ease

The rest of its here
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/everton/10462551/Everton-manager-Roberto-Martinez-excited-by-first-Merseyside-derby-and-has-no-regrets-over-Liverpool-job.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/everton/10462551/Everton-manager-Roberto-Martinez-excited-by-first-Merseyside-derby-and-has-no-regrets-over-Liverpool-job.html)

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blueski on November 20, 2013, 11:34:34 PM
I'm looking forward to this one, the last 2 seemed a little stale in terms of physicality based on past standards, I think with players like Barkley, McCarthy and Barry, this could be a real good match with some intensity and hard tackles
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Heisenberg on November 20, 2013, 11:49:41 PM
Not looking forward to this, hoping we dont play so gung ho
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: matty1878 on November 21, 2013, 12:07:42 AM
Not looking forward to this, hoping we dont play so gung ho

its nerves of being a derby. add to that our previous record, some everton fans bound to be anxious/nervous. have we played hung ho yet? - with it being a derby we need to mix and match
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 21, 2013, 12:08:21 AM
quite open-minded going into this to be honest

always, always hated derby day over the last 10 years but actually quite looking forward to it

big breakfast then over to the ground and soak up the atmosphere

probably still work my way through about 30 ciggies before kick off though!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 21, 2013, 12:11:11 AM
quite open-minded going into this to be honest

always, always hated derby day over the last 10 years but actually quite looking forward to it

big breakfast then over to the ground and soak up the atmosphere

probably still work my way through about 30 ciggies before kick off though!

I remember seeing you outside Wembley when we played these, man you looked so stressed.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: matty1878 on November 21, 2013, 12:16:06 AM
I remember seeing you outside Wembley when we played these, man you looked so stressed.

thats a memory si, me, you  want banishing and putting to bed   like most evertonians! ( the game)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Polledreng on November 21, 2013, 12:50:19 AM
That last picture is a look of a man who has just been robbed.

...oh, that's because he was!!!
You are fucking losing your grip.... robbed because a player  scored a goal you found perfect ???   seem to remember the guy scoring the goal should have had 3 yellow cards by then .. and the freekick leading up to your "goal" never should have been given ... but that's another story.  If you don't like the smell on here I think you should just f... o..  :headbang:
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 21, 2013, 12:57:22 AM
That last picture is a look of a man who has just been robbed.

...oh, that's because he was!!!

Robbed in a derby by a match official! Wonder what that feels like?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 21, 2013, 01:02:32 AM
MOB:

Ahoy hoy!

It’s been a while. International breaks are normally an absolute nuisance but it’s allowed This Is Not Football some valuable time to find away around the stringent anti-cussing rules on Newsnow. Some drastic action was required and in the end we bought a tramp steamer down at the docks, had it kitted out and now we are publishing this from the relative freedom of international waters.

Life on the ocean waves isn’t for everyone, but it certainly helps if you have an experienced crew. Just like on Captain Pugwash (don’t bother with an exasperated comment, we know it’s an urban myth, Poindexter) we are ably supported by a cast of salty sea dogs with ever-so-slightly rapey names. There’s Seaman Encrusted of course, Teabag the cabin-boy, and, er, Roy Harper. Which is awkward.

We’re glad to be offshore this week because as everyone knows, the build-up to the derby is always excruciating. Except it isn’t any more, is it, really? ‘Derby week’ essentially comprises of a series of done-do-death memory lane bits in the Echo, some half-hearted opinion bits by a couple of ex-players or managers who conclude that the team that keeps calmest will prevail, and some interviews with the respective managers. And with all the will in the world, these two seem to be decent enough coaches but you are going to struggle to get either to ‘stoke the fires’ ahead of Saturday’s ‘clash’.

Obviously Roberto Martinez is just super-smiley and nice and probably has massive, massive respect for Liverpool as a football club and as an institution when you think about all the great players they have had down the years and all that they have achieved in the past and the outstanding individuals that they have now in their group and what was the question again? And say what you like about Brendan Rodgers – such as the fact that he has a parsnip for a nose, wears a pair of bedraggled fingerless gloves and a piece of rope as a belt and lives in a hedge – say that if you like, but in terms of Liverpool managers he is one of the least offensive. Possibly the weirdest – good lord he is one odd individual in his Charlie Seger suits and Rimmel of London kite – but he doesn’t really go out of his way to court controversy or have digs at opponents.

Incidentally, does no one else chortle when Rimmel adverts promise ladies ‘thick lashes’? As offers go that’s certainly more alluring than a free makeup bag.

Anyway, it’s not just Rodgers who seems a bit low-key though, because in truth is anyone quite as bothered by Liverpool as a whole as they used to be? After the original Yanks shafted them and it became clear to even their worst swivel-eyed Jihadis that they really are just another club like any other, with no divine right to success, they became almost humanised, like when you follow a monstrous school bully home and secretly spy through a knot-hole in a wooden fence and see him being beaten by a cruel, drunken step-dad.

You still think he’s a little shitbag but you kind of understand why. And you certainly don’t fear him any more.

The odd thing is that both clubs seem to be on the up at the moment, in terms of their recent histories anyway. There’s an air of relative optimism about both of them, especially given their positive starts to this season, but the majority of supporters on either side of the divide have witnessed enough false dawns that they retain a certain degree of perspective.

The two clubs, separated by only three points in the table,  have both produced some excellent performances and played some decent football at times, but a couple of games, such as ours at Manchester City and Liverpool’s trip to Arsenal have served as reminders that there is still a gap to be bridged between the Champions League teams and the rest.

Liverpool’s relative revival seems to be since they adapted from over-playing at the back and started getting the ball quickly into the feet of their two outstanding strikers, Daniel Sturridge and Luis Suarez. For much of his early career the former struggled to hold down a place at clubs whose massive squads meant he never got the chance to play through an indifferent spell. We’ve said it before but there can be such a thing as too much competition for places – players generally need to get a run of games without constant threat of being axed if you want to see the best of them and that’s what Sturridge has at Anfield, and they are reaping the benefits. When he’s off form though he is one right greedy, blind-alley-shoot-from-anywhere merchant, and hopefully that’s the case on Saturday, as we don’t want to see him turned and running at Sylvain Distin and Phil Jagielka.

It’s not just the centre-halves who need to be alert though – a lot of the work keeping their front two quiet will fall to Gareth Barry and James McCarthy. At the Emirates Mikel Arteta was brilliant at anticipating the through-balls being tucked into them, stepping out, killing the danger and launching counter-attacks.

Obviously Sturridge is a danger then, but we can’t really discuss Liverpool without at least a few words on his ‘strike partner’ Luis Suarez.

Oh, Luis.

Luis, Luis, Luis, Luis, Luis.

Luis Suarez, with your face like a scrapped piano.

The ludicrously talented Uruguayan could only be more of a scoundrel if he held a cloak across his face and his every speeded-up move was accompanied by frantic piano playing. Love him or hate him, and let’s face it everyone fucking hates him, he is the most morbidly fascinating player in the Premier League. Like post-Buster Douglas Mike Tyson you can’t take your eyes off him because he seems capable of doing just about anything.

The thing is, pundits will constantly tell you, if you take away the nasty edge to his game he wouldn’t be half the player he is. And when you think about it, all the greats: Michel Platini, Lionel Messi, Pele, Johan Cruyff, the list goes on. What did they all have in common?

All racist man-eaters.

He never got the move he wanted, and indeed tried to force in quite undignified fashion in the summer, but you can’t really deny that since returning to the side he has given his all in much the same was as Leighton Baines has for Everton since his less public request to move to Old Trafford was knocked back. It will be interesting to see whether both players finish this season where they are, with the press seemingly convinced that Baines will finally be departing. The fact that there seems to be no real effort to sort out a new contract with the lovable left-back as well would indicate that perhaps he has made his position perfectly clear about where he sees his future. As for Suarez, there is talk of Real Madrid being in for him in January, but if Liverpool managed to hang onto him in the summer against the odds you can imagine they would fancy their chances of getting him to hang on until the end of the season in order to give them the best chance of securing the Holy Grail of fourth place.

That last bit was complete conjecture in order to round off a point and a paragraph that was really going nowhere at all.

One of the more intriguing aspects of this derby is simply the fact that the Blues will go into it and attempt to out-pass Liverpool, something that almost never happens. Even with decent Everton teams you always feel that the onus is on us to try and nullify them first and foremost, and pressurise them into making mistakes. There have been a few notable exceptions down the years, but overall there’s nearly always a feeling that if we win it will be mainly down to hard graft and a big centre-forward.

On Saturday that won’t be the case. Martinez will send his team out to play the way they play, from the first whistle knocking the ball about as if we are winning 2-0. It will make a refreshing change, although the big fear, clearly, is that they – and let’s face it, we mean Suarez – will be able to pressurise the defenders into making mistakes in dangerous areas.

At the other end though, Liverpool’s defence is nothing to write home about- unless of of course it’s a postcard saying ‘Mum, Martin Skrtl’s shit’. Everton certainly have enough quality players in forward positions to give them problems, especially if the two Belgians, Kevin Mirallas and Romelu Lukaku, have the great 90 minutes that they are overdue.

Again, that was one of those ‘not really got a point here’ moments, to be honest.

Right then, that’s nearly it, the seas are getting a bit choppy here and apparently we have a couple of coastguard frigates off our starboard bow. Apologies if we start to lose the sig…

…kin’ annoying this. I told you to get decent gear. You’ve made us look like right ama…

…Oi! Get off my fuckin…

…Roy and Teabag? They’ve been gone for…

…ollocks…

…me look like like a right cun…

…Mayday! Mayday!…

Hang on, I think we are back on. Mayday. This Echo Bravo Charlie Number Nine. We are being illegally boarded by representatives of Newsn…

…rrect. The news aggregation website. Aggreg. AGGREGATION! ALPHA GOLF GOLF ROMEO…

…Roy, Roy. Zip your kecks…

…dcast the final message for Saturday while we jettison all these swear…

-.- — .–. .. – . …  .- .-. .  –. — -… … …. .. – . …
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 21, 2013, 01:08:53 AM

I remember seeing you outside Wembley when we played these, man you looked so stressed.

Poor old Thom had to spend the whole day with me!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 21, 2013, 01:27:01 AM
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=309977.40 (http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=309977.40)

They seem to think Baines and Lukaku are our only threats. Shows how much they know really.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 21, 2013, 01:33:24 AM
Look for the picture of the foul by Coates before the ball was put in the net too

Foul??? In whose opinion??? "Yours" you say???

Funny that.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 21, 2013, 01:35:05 AM
(http://forgifs.com/gallery/d/85573-2/Soccer_kick_fail.gif)

You haven't got a gif of him lifting the European Cup have you?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 21, 2013, 01:35:08 AM
Foul??? In whose opinion??? "Yours" you say???

Funny that.
your getting quite boring now bws.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 21, 2013, 01:35:12 AM
Foul??? In whose opinion??? "Yours" you say???

Funny that.

Why are you being such a little bitch, yo?

Did you expect us all to be circle jerking about how great your team is in here?

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 21, 2013, 01:35:54 AM
You haven't got a gif of him lifting the European Cup have you?

He's now resorted to default kopite mode.

This is the first level towards meltdown.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 21, 2013, 01:36:16 AM
Foul??? In whose opinion??? "Yours" you say???

Funny that.

irrelevant really given that it was clearly offside (and given as such) and the player who was caught offside shouldn't even have been on the pitch after his assault on Distin
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Danny on November 21, 2013, 01:36:56 AM
That last picture is a look of a man who has just been robbed.

...oh, that's because he was!!!

(http://i.imgur.com/NrgNl2C.gif)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Danny on November 21, 2013, 01:38:03 AM
He's now resorted to default kopite mode.

This is the first level towards meltdown.

*Shit out of comebacks* "YEAH BUT WHAT HAVE YOU WON RECENTLY?"
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 21, 2013, 01:39:32 AM
Foul??? In whose opinion??? "Yours" you say???

Funny that.

The refs you fuckin bellend
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 21, 2013, 01:40:40 AM
If so, it's all the more ironic that you got all precious and fell off your high horse.

More irony.

Look, I've said twice already, if you don't like what is said about Liverpool on here, don't come on, no one is forcing you to. There's rarely going to be any mutual respect or complimentary comments of Liverpool and that clearly winds you up. You then start claiming it's all tit for tat, when it's you that brings an argument to the place, it's not as if it's Evertonians defending Liverpool and you're just joining in with them. If you're going to come on here, don't moan if everything is seen from an Evertonian's point of view, and if you do moan, don't then be surprised when everyone starts having a go at you.

The fact that people were having a go at Liverpool for not selling their allocation, when in fact they have, has kept me well and truly on my high horse.

Point it out a third time if you want, I couldn't give a shit. I'll still be pointing out the hypocrisy and inaccuracies if people keep posting them.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 21, 2013, 01:41:47 AM
The fact that people were having a go at Liverpool for not selling their allocation, when in fact they have, has kept me well and truly on my high horse.

Point it out a third time if you want, I couldn't give a shit. I'll still be pointing out the hypocrisy and inaccuracies if people keep posting them.

You dont give a shit?

Your behaviour in here would prove otherwise.

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 21, 2013, 01:44:41 AM
You haven't got a gif of him lifting the European Cup have you?

The gif wasn't about mocking Gerrard, it actually represents how badly you've missed the point.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 21, 2013, 01:47:18 AM
The fact that people were having a go at Liverpool for not selling their allocation, when in fact they have, has kept me well and truly on my high horse.

Point it out a third time if you want, I couldn't give a shit. I'll still be pointing out the hypocrisy and inaccuracies if people keep posting them.

I don't think anyone was under the impression you were never going to. It just seems funny we sold this game out nearly a month ago (yes 2 for 1 everton) yet your 'you can't get a ticket, 2000 year waiting list' support still hadn't sold just under 3000 tickets a few days before the game....in their own city*.

*probably not the case.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 21, 2013, 01:47:23 AM
The refs you fuckin bellend

Really?!?!?!

What makes you say that???
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 21, 2013, 01:48:13 AM
The fact that people were having a go at Liverpool for not selling their allocation, when in fact they have, has kept me well and truly on my high horse.

Point it out a third time if you want, I couldn't give a shit. I'll still be pointing out the hypocrisy and inaccuracies if people keep posting them.
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Log off dickead.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 21, 2013, 01:49:00 AM
You dont give a shit?

Your behaviour in here would prove otherwise.



It was in reference to him telling me a third time (if he wants).
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 21, 2013, 01:50:25 AM
It was in reference to him telling me a third time (if he wants).

Why are you so assed about what we think?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 21, 2013, 01:51:23 AM
Really?!?!?!

What makes you say that???

Him blowing that thing rhymes with thistle
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 21, 2013, 01:55:55 AM
irrelevant really given that it was clearly offside (and given as such) and the player who was caught offside shouldn't even have been on the pitch after his assault on Distin

You need to brush up on your football Si. It wasn't offside, and the goal should have stood.

As to the second half of your wind-up, that's your opinion. I wouldn't of expected anything else.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 21, 2013, 01:57:16 AM
Him blowing that thing rhymes with thistle

You mean the one he blew for offside? Incorrectly by the way.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 21, 2013, 01:58:27 AM
You mean the one he blew for offside? Incorrectly by the way.

Ferguson told him to blow it mate.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 21, 2013, 01:58:44 AM
Why are you so assed about what we think?

I'm not. Hence why I added "I couldn't give a shit".
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 21, 2013, 02:01:14 AM
I'm not. Hence why I added "I couldn't give a shit".

You seem awfully attentive for someone who doesn't give a shit

So your just after attention?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 21, 2013, 02:10:56 AM
The fact that people were having a go at Liverpool for not selling their allocation, when in fact they have, has kept me well and truly on my high horse.

Point it out a third time if you want, I couldn't give a shit. I'll still be pointing out the hypocrisy and inaccuracies if people keep posting them.



Log off dickead.

No. Dickhead.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 21, 2013, 02:12:47 AM
Loving this thread haha
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 21, 2013, 02:13:52 AM
Loving this thread haha

It just needs some pyro.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 21, 2013, 02:14:55 AM

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No. Dickhead.

Have you been sent on a mission by a redshite forum to be a bad prick? Cos it's mission accomplished so you may as well go.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 21, 2013, 02:20:59 AM

Have you been sent on a mission by a redshite forum to be a bad prick? Cos it's mission accomplished so you may as well go.

Do one you rat.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 21, 2013, 02:21:10 AM
BWS, you know how I feel about trolls.

(http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/gtfo/grand/bish_gtfo.gif)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 21, 2013, 02:28:36 AM
You need to brush up on your football Si. It wasn't offside, and the goal should have stood.

As to the second half of your wind-up, that's your opinion. I wouldn't of expected anything else.

a stamp on an achilles is an opinion now?

deary me

and it was given offside, because it was offside.  I was gutted Gerrard did that slide though, as it meant he was perfectly placed to tackle Baines on the break.  If only he'd waited to see if it had been given we could have bagged a third and really wound you up!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 21, 2013, 02:28:42 AM
Do one you rat.

Good god, i have never been so offended in my life. Whatever will this boy do next, throw a paving slab at my head or something.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 21, 2013, 02:29:24 AM
What's sad is bws you prob think your being clever and funny when in fact to everyone on here your being stereotypical to all things bad about Liverpool fans. What would have been clever and funny would have been to come on here and become a respected poster not a bad wum. I am sure you will carry on on your quest however. Whatever kicks it is your getting ...  Nice one
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 21, 2013, 02:29:47 AM
Do one you rat.

Hahahaha!!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 21, 2013, 02:33:47 AM
Mikel Arteta v Liverpool 2010-11 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J5ink8JrmM#ws)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 21, 2013, 02:34:17 AM
Andy King's winner against Liverpool 1978 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcL3wNZHVM8#)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 21, 2013, 02:34:46 AM
That Goal By Sharpy! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsBCEmKle_c#)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 21, 2013, 02:35:36 AM
Andrei Kanchelskis Derby Goals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNOx4JrCFGQ#)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 21, 2013, 02:36:27 AM
Do one you rat.

Dear god, that's it? That's your best?

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/1899025/balloon-deflate-o.gif)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 21, 2013, 02:36:31 AM
Everton 4-4 Liverpool FA Cup 5th Round replay 1990-91 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zui0iqjVs4#)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 21, 2013, 02:38:01 AM
Do one you rat.

Public Enemy - James Cagney Grapefruit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmZfJuS4sVc#)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 21, 2013, 02:39:01 AM
Sheedy vs Liverpool 1986-87 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LOSbWo8C74#)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 21, 2013, 02:43:48 AM
Is this you BWS?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZdy805IAAABCZq.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 21, 2013, 02:45:12 AM

Yes, three days before the game, not exactly rushing to get them. It's the perpetuated myth that Liverpool are so wonderfully supported that it's impossible to get a ticket to see them that gives people cause to skit them.

Liverpool average attendance 2013/14 -  44,704. More than 98% of full capacity.

Everton average attendance 2013/14 - 36,629. Less than 92% of full capacity.

That should put to bed arguments about Liverpool's support at home this season.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 21, 2013, 02:45:52 AM
Nice use of his birds strides if it is.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 21, 2013, 02:51:39 AM
Well this has certainly added some extra spice to the derby!

BWS will have a field day if Liverpool win on here winding us up!

I'm sure if we win he will be sporting in defeat too and congratulate us!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 21, 2013, 02:56:12 AM
Is this you BWS?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZdy805IAAABCZq.jpg:large)

No this is him...

(http://s23.postimg.org/4o0zembhn/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 21, 2013, 02:57:01 AM
a stamp on an achilles is an opinion now?

deary me

and it was given offside, because it was offside.  I was gutted Gerrard did that slide though, as it meant he was perfectly placed to tackle Baines on the break.  If only he'd waited to see if it had been given we could have bagged a third and really wound you up!

I was referring to the fact that you said he shouldn't have been on the pitch. Obviously the ref had a different opinion.

It was given offside, but wrongly so. Anyone with a good pair of eyes could see that.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 21, 2013, 02:58:52 AM
Liverpool average attendance 2013/14 -  44,704. More than 98% of full capacity.

Everton average attendance 2013/14 - 36,629. Less than 92% of full capacity.

That should put to bed arguments about Liverpool's support at home this season.

I don't like getting involved....but it wasn't home support that was being questioned mate, it was away support.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 21, 2013, 02:59:19 AM
Good god, i have never been so offended in my life. Whatever will this boy do next, throw a paving slab at my head or something.

"Prick" wasn't exactly groundbreaking either.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 21, 2013, 03:01:43 AM
Mikel Arteta v Liverpool 2010-11 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J5ink8JrmM#ws)

Hope they defend like this against us on Saturday.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 21, 2013, 03:07:11 AM
I don't like getting involved....but it wasn't home support that was being questioned mate, it was away support.

I can see what you were saying but I was responding to the post about it being difficult to get a ticket. More than 98% full on average which tells you they are in high demand.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 21, 2013, 03:08:40 AM
It was ok to have this gobs#ite come on here and give his opinion on the game.  Now that it's a childish windup pissing match, ban him so we can get back to regular discussion.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 21, 2013, 03:09:47 AM
Interesting stat - if Liverpool win on Saturday they'll have recorded the same number of derby wins as Everton at Goodison.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 21, 2013, 03:14:17 AM
It was ok to have this gobs#ite come on here and give his opinion on the game.  Now that it's a childish windup pissing match, ban him so we can get back to regular discussion.

Are you going to point out all the other wind-ups too?

Nah, didn't think so.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 21, 2013, 03:18:43 AM
I bet this thread will be more eventful than the derby itself.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 21, 2013, 03:20:42 AM
Not going to happen. Ban me and they'd have to ban all the other wind up posters too.

There's only you that comes on from another forum on the wind up.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 21, 2013, 03:21:23 AM
Not going to happen. Ban me and they'd have to ban all the other wind up posters too.

They don't have to do anything really! I'm all for keeping you around though BWS, splendid entertainment.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 21, 2013, 03:35:22 AM
You edited your post? "Not going to happen" in reference to banning you. Fucking hell you arrogant little toad.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: School of Science on November 21, 2013, 03:37:53 AM
Your very petty today BSW, could it be pre derby nerves ?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 21, 2013, 03:41:15 AM
Are you going to point out all the other wind-ups too?

Nah, didn't think so.

That's a fair question.  Answer is no: this is our forum for Evertonians to comment on everything Everton. The wind-ups exist because you have overstayed your welcome.  Thanks for your initial few posts which were somewhat sensible but:

Please go away.  Mods ban pls.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 21, 2013, 03:50:24 AM
You edited your post? "Not going to happen" in reference to banning you. Fucking hell you arrogant little toad.

He just weren't quick enough though, was he. Thinking he's got some sort of immunity.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 21, 2013, 03:55:08 AM
He just weren't quick enough though, was he. Thinking he's got some sort of immunity.

I know, that's pissed me off the most, thinking "it wont happen" he should be banned just for saying it wont. Reminds me of Adrian Durham. Both arrogant, clueless muppets.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 21, 2013, 04:02:15 AM
You edited your post? "Not going to happen" in reference to banning you. Fucking hell you arrogant little toad.

Hey-up, it's the post police.

Go fuck yourself Lizz. With a courgette.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 21, 2013, 04:03:12 AM
Hey-up, it's the post police.

Go fuck yourself Lizz. With a courgette.


wow. Mr brains over here.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 21, 2013, 04:04:26 AM
That's a fair question.  Answer is no: this is our forum for Evertonians to comment on everything Everton. The wind-ups exist because you have overstayed your welcome.  Thanks for your initial few posts which were somewhat sensible but:

Please go away.  Mods ban pls.

What's up. Giving you lot some back and you can't take it???

Boo hoo.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 21, 2013, 04:06:18 AM
I know, that's pissed me off the most, thinking "it wont happen" he should be banned just for saying it wont. Reminds me of Adrian Durham. Both arrogant, clueless muppets.

Another one who can't stand the fact I'm holding up the mirror to them.

Sorry to spoil your "aren't Liverpool shite" wankfest.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 21, 2013, 04:08:16 AM
Another one who can't stand the fact I'm holding up the mirror to them.

Sorry to spoil your "aren't Liverpool shite" wankfest.

Don't worry mate, you're not spoiling anything. Liverpool are still shite.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 21, 2013, 04:14:26 AM
Don't worry mate, you're not spoiling anything. Liverpool are still shite.

You've won 3 games out of the last 20 premier league games against us, you've not won a trophy in 18 years. We're shite? What are you?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 21, 2013, 04:15:35 AM
You've won 3 games out of the last 20 premier league games against us, you've not won a trophy in 18 years. We're shite? What are you?

Skint.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 21, 2013, 04:17:22 AM
Another one who can't stand the fact I'm holding up the mirror to them.

Sorry to spoil your "aren't Liverpool shite" wankfest.

Holding a mirror up to me how?

Liverpool are shite, i think that because im an Everton fan....it doesnt matter if we never beat you, yeah we dont, so what? I dont get it, you are like one of those annoying terriers that yap and you just want to kick the little fucker over the fence but then you would feel bad when it yelps. Although in this instance i wouldnt give a fuck if it cried.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 21, 2013, 04:22:33 AM
Hey-up, it's the post police.

Go fuck yourself Lizz. With a courgette.


Sadly, I'm pretty sure you're now actively trying to get banned. Even for some of the stuff you say on here, these last few posts have been totally out of character for you. Despite what you may think, even if an Everton fan had said that to Liz, something would have been said about if from a moderator, that kind of thing is below the belt, and it takes quite a lot on here for that to happen.

I know you'll say that you're "not arsed", which again begs the question, what are you doing here? I used to think you were a decent sort, I've stuck up for you at times when the likes of BNP were having a battle with you, but I'm beginning to think you're just coming on now as a WUM and to see how far you can push it, which is a shame really and also rather sad.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Good Citizen on November 21, 2013, 04:25:31 AM
Trying to tell a kopite they've got no class is like telling Justin Bieber he's shit. It just won't sink in.

You not a member on RAWK BWS? Why don't you go and contribute to their poetry section, write a shit poem about the spirit of shankly or something, maybe draw a nice picture of Paisley or show them your scarf collection. Creative soul like you would be welcomed over there.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 21, 2013, 04:26:42 AM
You've won 3 games out of the last 20 premier league games against us, you've not won a trophy in 18 years. We're shite? What are you?

The psychology of some people. Fair enough, talk on your rivals forum, have some banter and a few arguments about football. The vast majority don't mind that, and would defend your right to do it.

Maybe it's because the derby is close, but you're making a massive cock of yourself in this little sequence.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 21, 2013, 04:27:06 AM
Trying to tell a kopite they've got no class is like telling Justin Bieber he's shit. It just won't sink in.

You not a member on RAWK BWS? Why don't you go and contribute to their poetry section, write a shit poem about the spirit of shankly or something, maybe draw a nice picture of Paisley or show them your scarf collection. Creative soul like you would be welcomed over there.

Is that the same Shankly they banned from his own gates?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: brap2 on November 21, 2013, 04:40:19 AM
err, i dont want to interrupt, but ah,

anyone got any good ideas for a pub for the derby? usually go to envi but i think the atmosphere might get a little bit much for me.

it's also a mixed group im with.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 21, 2013, 04:40:31 AM
Sadly, I'm pretty sure you're now actively trying to get banned. Even for some of the stuff you say on here, these last few posts have been totally out of character for you. Despite what you may think, even if an Everton fan had said that to Liz, something would have been said about if from a moderator, that kind of thing is below the belt, and it takes quite a lot on here for that to happen.

I know you'll say that you're "not arsed", which again begs the question, what are you doing here? I used to think you were a decent sort, I've stuck up for you at times when the likes of BNP were having a battle with you, but I'm beginning to think you're just coming on now as a WUM and to see how far you can push it, which is a shame really and also rather sad.

So they start abusing me personally, but when I retalliate I'm the one who should get banned.

Funny that.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 21, 2013, 04:46:11 AM
So they start abusing me personally, but when I retalliate I'm the one who should get banned.

Funny that.

A bit of name calling goes on on forums and that's all it was, Liz's post didn't warrant the kind of answer you gave her. I'm just disappointed in how you seem to have changed recently, and as I said, that's what leads me to think you're at it and seeing how far you can push it now.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 21, 2013, 04:46:41 AM

it's also a mixed group im with.

Don't knkw how you can do that to be honest haha. If we lose I wouldn't want to be surrounded by kopites.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 21, 2013, 04:47:08 AM
Anyway, going off a few facts I've posted it's nice to see where I would have stood if I did start an Everton thread posting shit about you guys.

It wouldn't have gone down well. It wouldn't have gone down well at all. Expected really.

I just think it's funny when the boot's on the other foot. "Ban him", "he's a WUM", etc, etc...

As for banning me - do it. It'll be a moral victory for me and the website would stink of hypocrisy. Or will you wait till after we dick you 4-1 in the derby. ;-)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 21, 2013, 04:48:00 AM
err, i dont want to interrupt, but ah,

anyone got any good ideas for a pub for the derby? usually go to envi but i think the atmosphere might get a little bit much for me.

it's also a mixed group im with.

I usually go the Oak, sometimes the Brick depending on who im with.

EDIT: sorry didnt notice the mixed group bit, i wouldnt go to either of those with reds haha
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 21, 2013, 04:51:51 AM
I really dont think people care what you say, start that thread, it doesnt matter, you are just a sad man trying to stir up shit in your rivals forum. It really is quite pathetic.

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sirblue57 on November 21, 2013, 04:53:43 AM
Anyway, going off a few facts I've posted it's nice to see where I would have stood if I did start an Everton thread posting shit about you guys.

It wouldn't have gone down well. It wouldn't have gone down well at all. Expected really.

I just think it's funny when the boot's on the other foot. "Ban him", "he's a WUM", etc, etc...

As for banning me - do it. It'll be a moral victory for me and the website would stink of hypocrisy. Or will you wait till after we dick you 4-1 in the derby. ;-)

sorry mate, your coming across as a typical " 5times lid" stereotypical gobshite, and as one who has had many kopite friends since the 70s, i think you should read back what you put and think again.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 21, 2013, 04:54:10 AM
Anyway, going off a few facts I've posted it's nice to see where I would have stood if I did start an Everton thread posting shit about you guys.

It wouldn't have gone down well. It wouldn't have gone down well at all. Expected really.

I just think it's funny when the boot's on the other foot. "Ban him", "he's a WUM", etc, etc...

As for banning me - do it. It'll be a moral victory for me and the website would stink of hypocrisy. Or will you wait till after we dick you 4-1 in the derby. ;-)
I imagine there are one of them style threads on any given lfc site.... Am sure they would to read your contribution on there ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 21, 2013, 05:00:14 AM
Anyway, going off a few facts I've posted it's nice to see where I would have stood if I did start an Everton thread posting shit about you guys.

It wouldn't have gone down well. It wouldn't have gone down well at all. Expected really.

I just think it's funny when the boot's on the other foot. "Ban him", "he's a WUM", etc, etc...

As for banning me - do it. It'll be a moral victory for me and the website would stink of hypocrisy. Or will you wait till after we dick you 4-1 in the derby. ;-)

I don't think we'd have lasted as long as you on some of your forums- you can't even make a bad remark about your team even if you play shite without getting banned, see RAWK, etc. So fuck knows were we'd have got to with shit like you've come out with.

You used to be alright considering you're from over the park, but lately, dunno what it is, but you've started to become a right twat.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: goodtouchforabigman on November 21, 2013, 05:03:37 AM
Whoah, this has certainly got a bit tastier than it was at dinner time today.

It seems like that BWS character has been slowly getting pissed since dinner on his dads Skol.

I quite like having banter with my red mates as apart from being reds they're pretty sound. But banter from some weirdo red who sounds like he's got no mates and never leaves his bedroom so he tries to get attention on internet forums is a bit shit really.

I bet he does this on loads of other forums as well. I reckon he'll be teaching them pesky JLS fans a thing or two. The witty bastard.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Blue Lagoon on November 21, 2013, 05:09:58 AM

Anyway, going off a few facts I've posted it's nice to see where I would have stood if I did start an Everton thread posting shit about you guys.

It wouldn't have gone down well. It wouldn't have gone down well at all. Expected really.

I just think it's funny when the boot's on the other foot. "Ban him", "he's a WUM", etc, etc...

As for banning me - do it. It'll be a moral victory for me and the website would stink of hypocrisy. Or will you wait till after we dick you 4-1 in the derby. ;-)

Quite right. If you started a thread here slating Everton or Everton fans on what is an Everton Forum it wouldn't have gone down well.
No fucking shit.
Can't believe you've only just figured that out.
 
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 21, 2013, 05:17:44 AM
Anyway, going off a few facts I've posted it's nice to see where I would have stood if I did start an Everton thread posting shit about you guys.

It wouldn't have gone down well. It wouldn't have gone down well at all. Expected really.

I just think it's funny when the boot's on the other foot. "Ban him", "he's a WUM", etc, etc...

As for banning me - do it. It'll be a moral victory for me and the website would stink of hypocrisy. Or will you wait till after we dick you 4-1 in the derby. ;-)

We had this "Everton thread" discussion 12 hours ago. What kind of reaction do you think an anti Everton thread, started on an Everton forum, by a Liverpool fan would get? Of course it wouldn't go down well. it hardly makes you Einstein, I'm not sure what point you're trying to prove? And as said earlier, go onto any Liverpool forum and you'll find one of these threads.

And lets be honest, no wonder people say you're a WUM, this comment was blatantly written to try to get a reaction.
Interesting stat - if Liverpool win on Saturday they'll have recorded the same number of derby wins as Everton at Goodison.
So lets stop playing the poor innocent victim here.

As for banning you, you've been treated just like any Everton fan is on here, people throw names out at fellow fans plenty of times and most if it goes without any thing being said as long as it doesn't cross the line, personally, I thought that comment to Liz crossed the line.

You're last comment kind of proves what I've said, you're pushing it to see how far you can go so that you can claim the moral victory if you get banned. Believe me, if you were ever to be banned from here, it would be for the same reasons as anyone else, and would have nothing to do with who you support or the result of a match. So don't talk of hypocrisy, Everonians have been banned from Liverpool sites just for being, well, Evertonians. Largely you've been made fairly welcome here and accepted, all things considered and most people have respected you're opinion for a good number of years.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 21, 2013, 05:21:57 AM
I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 21, 2013, 05:26:24 AM
I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed.
same
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 21, 2013, 05:47:28 AM
Wow. Just wow.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 21, 2013, 05:56:40 AM
Wow. Just wow.

I know, Courgette!

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 21, 2013, 06:19:44 AM
I know, Courgette!



:'( so small.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 21, 2013, 06:32:25 AM
:'( so small.

Try the cucumber then.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 21, 2013, 06:33:38 AM
Try the cucumber then.

id rather not use any!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 21, 2013, 06:36:22 AM
OK so moving on from sexual vegetables....

I think this will be a massive game for Barkley to hopefully show he should be consistently picked ahead of Osman. I also cant wait to have a hard ass in CM again  :)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 21, 2013, 06:40:08 AM
Barry and McCarthy will be vital Saturday. Distin and Jagielka face a tough test.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Polledreng on November 21, 2013, 11:30:42 AM
I was referring to the fact that you said he shouldn't have been on the pitch. Obviously the ref had a different opinion.

It was given offside, but wrongly so. Anyone with a good pair of eyes could see that.
The ref had a different opinion. Anyone with a good pair of eyes could see that.    lolol      He could have given a freekick on jags aswell for that goal ... anyone with a good pair of eyes could see that .. like the freekick that wasn't a freekick .. or the Suarez cards not given ... you cleary haven't a good pair of eyes .. if so your jeep them closed.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 21, 2013, 01:27:56 PM
That banner outside goodison. How brace are they? Taking a photo like that at 3am?  They did something similar outside old Trafford a few years ago

Man U fans unfurled a 20 times banner inside anfield in the home end during a game

Everton fans have a video on YouTube of them singing anti kopite songs by the shankly gates after a derby

Liverpool fans wait til the dead of night

Cowards
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 21, 2013, 01:31:24 PM
That banner outside goodison. How brace are they? Taking a photo like that at 3am?  They did something similar outside old Trafford a few years ago

Man U fans unfurled a 20 times banner inside anfield in the home end during a game

Everton fans have a video on YouTube of them singing anti kopite songs by the shankly gates after a derby

Liverpool fans wait til the dead of night

Cowards

It's more that they're not bothered by us.

But then they are...

Confusing nod
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 21, 2013, 02:05:29 PM
That banner outside goodison. How brace are they? Taking a photo like that at 3am?  They did something similar outside old Trafford a few years ago

Man U fans unfurled a 20 times banner inside anfield in the home end during a game

Everton fans have a video on YouTube of them singing anti kopite songs by the shankly gates after a derby

Liverpool fans wait til the dead of night

Cowards

The Urchins operate after dark Simon. Didn't you know that?!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bally on November 21, 2013, 03:38:47 PM
Anyway, going off a few facts I've posted it's nice to see where I would have stood if I did start an Everton thread posting shit about you guys.

It wouldn't have gone down well. It wouldn't have gone down well at all. Expected really.

I just think it's funny when the boot's on the other foot. "Ban him", "he's a WUM", etc, etc...

As for banning me - do it. It'll be a moral victory for me and the website would stink of hypocrisy. Or will you wait till after we dick you 4-1 in the derby. ;-)

Ok im going to pretty much as youd expect me to be .


What the fuck is with you recently , this is far beyond banter,its like you've been on a period for like a fucking year or something,  so I say stop being a complete fucking bellend or I will ban you and see your moral victory you can shove it up your fucking arse,  you will not be banned for being a kopite you'll be banned for being a fucking Cockwomble.

Your last few posts have been idiotic in comparison to what you normally post , whats your problem,  its simple if you want to continue posting then do so in a manner that wont get you banned, if you dont then fuck off and stop being a cunt .

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 21, 2013, 03:41:13 PM
Barry and McCarthy will be vital Saturday. Distin and Jagielka face a tough test.

You have got the wrong thread here mate.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 21, 2013, 04:50:05 PM
He's become like a muslim demanding sharia law in the UK.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 21, 2013, 05:09:33 PM
Must. Not. Feed. Troll.

He was looking for a ban to go back victorious to whatever red forum he was from so he could tell tales about how he owned a whole forum of bitters or whatever. It's some sort of right of passage, nothing shows how unarsed your are by posting for 12 hours on a site run and occupied by people who you're unarsed about.

Let's move on, eh.

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 21, 2013, 05:30:33 PM
He's become like a muslim demanding sharia law in the UK.

Just so you know, blarg. Muslims in the UK don't really demand sharia law. At least none that I'm friends with, went to school with, have worked with, have ever met. It's a Daily Mail myth.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 21, 2013, 05:38:38 PM
Just so you know, blarg. Muslims in the UK don't really demand sharia law. At least none that I'm friends with, went to school with, have worked with, have ever met. It's a Daily Mail myth.

Oh surely there are a few knobheads out there that demand it? That's what I'm comparing him to.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: plumber on November 21, 2013, 05:40:11 PM
Fucking hell
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 21, 2013, 05:41:50 PM
Oh surely there are a few knobheads out there that demand it? That's what I'm comparing him to.

I suppose there will be a few extremists out there. That would be hard to deny.

Apologies for getting off topic. My fault.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 21, 2013, 06:04:31 PM
Sharia law is already used in certain communities, it just doesn't hold much water in the grand scheme of things. A couple of doughnuts and the daily mail have a bit of a deal where the doughnuts court publicity and the daily mail give them it and get a story that sells a couple of papers and stokes the hatred bubbling under the surface in a few doughnuts of a different persuasion.

With BWS, he's tended to be reasonable and gracious before derbies before. But I think that was partly because previous seasons it wasn't Liverpool's year, 3 points last season would have been the difference between 8th and 9th. He's become a rather sudden favourite for several of the awards, probably by a landslide.

Back to the football, in the RS' last 8 games, the team who have scored the opening goal have gone on to win, excluding the Newcastle game with the red card and a solid point retrieved.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 21, 2013, 06:52:06 PM
Is that the same Shankly they banned from his own gates?

Shankly died in 1981.

Gates were built in 1982.

Liverpool fans thought Shankly could walk on water.  You think he could come back from the dead.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 21, 2013, 07:11:05 PM
Well he was a blue when he died so maybe he can
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: dunleerblue on November 21, 2013, 07:15:59 PM
go away big wooden spoon with your sly avitar
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 21, 2013, 07:22:04 PM
Probably built them to keep out his spirit then.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 21, 2013, 07:24:27 PM
In none threadworthy news Enrique confirmed as out.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 21, 2013, 07:26:25 PM
In none threadworthy news Enrique confirmed as out.

So presumably Cissokho plays. Haven't seen a lot of him really. Does this weaken them or are both their left backs pretty rubbish?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 21, 2013, 07:36:36 PM
So presumably Cissokho plays. Haven't seen a lot of him really. Does this weaken them or are both their left backs pretty rubbish?

Dont know much about either but Cissokho was truly terrible against Arsenal!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 21, 2013, 07:38:56 PM
So presumably Cissokho plays. Haven't seen a lot of him really. Does this weaken them or are both their left backs pretty rubbish?

Cissokho is a bit of a donkey.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Polledreng on November 21, 2013, 07:40:02 PM
So presumably Cissokho plays. Haven't seen a lot of him really. Does this weaken them or are both their left backs pretty rubbish?
Hope he plays Shako there. It seems that Rodgers has found out that even though you pay 15 mill. for a defender it's still a possibily that he can't play football. How the hell that none playing defende could get in the team ahead of Agger only genious like Rodgers and Daglish can explain. Sakho is up there with some of Liverpools best buy - Morientes - Carroll - Downing to name a few. Cissokho isn't mutch better but to say Liverpool are weakend without Enrique is some statement.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 21, 2013, 07:40:11 PM
Dont know much about either but Cissokho was truly terrible against Arsenal!

Oh yeah, forgot he played in that match and he was terrible. Good shout, Lizz.

Might be a chance for Kev or Deulofeu to make themselves a hero then.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 21, 2013, 07:50:35 PM
Shankly died in 1981.

Gates were built in 1982.

Liverpool fans thought Shankly could walk on water.  You think he could come back from the dead.

Oh so you banned him before the gates were erected? Thats a lot better then, YNWA.

That banner outside goodison. How brace are they? Taking a photo like that at 3am?  They did something similar outside old Trafford a few years ago

Man U fans unfurled a 20 times banner inside anfield in the home end during a game

Everton fans have a video on YouTube of them singing anti kopite songs by the shankly gates after a derby

Liverpool fans wait til the dead of night

Cowards
That banner outside goodison. How brace are they? Taking a photo like that at 3am?  They did something similar outside old Trafford a few years ago

Man U fans unfurled a 20 times banner inside anfield in the home end during a game

Everton fans have a video on YouTube of them singing anti kopite songs by the shankly gates after a derby

Liverpool fans wait til the dead of night

Cowards

The little rats are good at that Si...they keep turning up at the brick when they know full well it's empty and kicking off, with the bar staff. Not to mention the time they threw red paint on Dixie Deans statue, in the early hours.

They're a gang of horrible, crying little shitbags.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 21, 2013, 07:57:10 PM
Might they play Johnson at LB and bring in someone at RB?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 21, 2013, 08:03:05 PM
Might they play Johnson at LB and bring in someone at RB?
Flanaghan is their other right back and Martin Kelly but I don't think he gets a look in.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 21, 2013, 08:04:18 PM
Weird one with Kelly, good from what i have seen.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 21, 2013, 08:09:38 PM
Oh yeah, forgot he played in that match and he was terrible. Good shout, Lizz.

Might be a chance for Kev or Deulofeu to make themselves a hero then.

:) yeah i hope so!!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 21, 2013, 08:10:21 PM
Weird one with Kelly, good from what i have seen.

OH MY GOD I hate your avatar.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 21, 2013, 08:11:57 PM
OH MY GOD I hate your avatar.

What it's Silas, I'm Silas it works ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 21, 2013, 08:15:42 PM
What it's Silas, I'm Silas it works ;)

I hated that storyline, he creeped the fuck out of me haha
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 21, 2013, 08:17:26 PM
I hated that storyline, he creeped the fuck out of me haha

Ha he's back for Christmas so I am just pre-empting.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 21, 2013, 08:20:20 PM
Oh so you banned him before the gates were erected? Thats a lot better then, YNWA.

No. What I'm trying to say is, how can Shankly be banned from his own gates when the gates weren't even built???
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 21, 2013, 08:21:26 PM
No. What I'm trying to say is, how can Shankly be banned from his own gates when the gates weren't even built???

Metaphorical gates.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 21, 2013, 08:26:59 PM
Ha he's back for Christmas so I am just pre-empting.

erm.....what?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 21, 2013, 08:27:16 PM
No. What I'm trying to say is, how can Shankly be banned from his own gates when the gates weren't even built???

let it go...
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 21, 2013, 08:31:15 PM
Weird one with Kelly, good from what i have seen.

Hmm.

Seemed like a lot of blood and thunder to me.

Lots of heavy touches but with a resultant heavy tackle which always gets the crowd on side.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 21, 2013, 08:31:34 PM
No. What I'm trying to say is, how can Shankly be banned from his own gates when the gates weren't even built???

A fair point, he was banned from the gates, but after he was dead and gates were erected in his honour, he was more than welcome to enter.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 21, 2013, 08:34:40 PM
Hmm.

Seemed like a lot of blood and thunder to me.

Lots of heavy touches but with a resultant heavy tackle which always gets the crowd on side.

Reminded me of Coleman when he first broke into the side. Potential in him I thought.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 21, 2013, 08:36:03 PM
Hmm.

Seemed like a lot of blood and thunder to me.

Lots of heavy touches but with a resultant heavy tackle which always gets the crowd on side.

Yeah, would agree with this, can only remember him playing well against us and even then he looks a bit of a unit that managed to cope well given his limitations.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 21, 2013, 08:43:11 PM
Reminded me of Coleman when he first broke into the side. Potential in him I thought.

I can see where you're coming from.

However I think he always looked a bit out of position (which he probably was; I'm sure he was a CB).

He got beyond that through the general adrenaline of just breaking through into the 1st team; but that was never going to last.

CBs look great at full back when things go well as they're much bigger, generally, than actual full backs so when they're bombing on they look almost unstoppable due to their size and power.

Once form drops off, or the opposition catch on their weaknesses are exposed and they look lumbering.

I'd imagine that with a few injuries he's lost the momentum of his earlier appearances and he's falling between two stools - he's not good enough technically to be a full back and he's not good enough defensively to play CB.

If he's going to be a CB long term he's still quite young so he wouldn't be written off completely but they have stocked up on CBs.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 21, 2013, 11:07:50 PM
This is an actual fly on the wall documentary. No word of a lie...

Gerrard and Rodgers - Parody (Darren Farley) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzMRTRpYb74#ws)

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 22, 2013, 12:27:40 AM
Hey-up, it's the post police.

Go fuck yourself Lizz. With a courgette.


BWS, what's wrong with you?

That's just unnecessary.

*sorry if this was ages ago, everyone; I'm just catching up
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 22, 2013, 12:59:18 AM
Come one you blues. Twat the fuckers.....(Wound-up? Me? Nah!)


Breathe........
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on November 22, 2013, 01:16:50 AM
I wish I was going the game. That roar from the crowd when the players leave the tunnel, onto the pitch is something else, Z Cars blasting in the background. Bliss that moment.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Alanvideo on November 22, 2013, 03:03:44 AM
I wish I was going the game. That roar from the crowd when the players leave the tunnel, onto the pitch is something else, Z Cars blasting in the background. Bliss that moment.
............dead right mate . My knees start knocking as I walk up County Road .  Come on blues these are shite  :hail:
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 22, 2013, 04:24:00 PM
BWS, what's wrong with you?

That's just unnecessary.

*sorry if this was ages ago, everyone; I'm just catching up

Love this.

Lizz has been nipping at me for a long time now, I've bitten back and all of a sudden she's the victim.

Girl or boy, I couldn't give a monkeys. If someone keeps giving me abuse, one day you'll get a reaction.

Basically, despite all the abuse I've received, I've given people a real reason to have a pop at me and tgey've taken full advantage of it. Was anything said about the initial abuse - no.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 22, 2013, 04:25:42 PM
Love this.

Lizz has been nipping at me for a long time now, I've bitten back and all of a sudden she's the victim.

Girl or boy, I couldn't give a monkeys. If someone keeps giving me abuse, one day you'll get a reaction.

Basically, despite all the abuse I've received, I've given people a real reason to have a pop at me and tgey've taken full advantage of it. Was anything said about the initial abuse - no.

Just drop it mate. Lets draw a line under all this and get back to the topic.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 22, 2013, 04:41:49 PM
Justice for the wooden one.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 22, 2013, 04:57:58 PM
Just drop it mate. Lets draw a line under all this and get back to the topic.

Yeah sure.

...just a shame this couldn't have been said to the other posters that carried this subject matter on.

Hey-ho, back to the match...
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 22, 2013, 05:02:29 PM
 :whistle:
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sirblue57 on November 22, 2013, 05:06:40 PM
Love this.

Lizz has been nipping at me for a long time now, I've bitten back and all of a sudden she's the victim.

Girl or boy, I couldn't give a monkeys. If someone keeps giving me abuse, one day you'll get a reaction.

Basically, despite all the abuse I've received, I've given people a real reason to have a pop at me and tgey've taken full advantage of it. Was anything said about the initial abuse - no.

TBF mate, i think you had a bit of a meltdown. but hope the real BWS is back. ya Rs whiner...;)













messin fella,
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 22, 2013, 05:07:39 PM
Wind it in BWS. I've always supported you in the past mate but your behaviour has been a bit embarrasing in this thread

When you joined this site you should have been fully aware that we support Everton and dont take well to opposition fans coming on here trying to wind us up.

 In the past it was refreshing to hear from you as you seemed to have a bit of a soft spot for us, apart from when we play against you obviously. And also I appreciated your views, despite the blip when you defended the undefendable actions of Luis Suarez.

I'd like you to return to form of old to be honest mate, wipe the slate clean and join us for more friendly banter tomorrow!

I'm not saying everyone has been totally welcoming to you or anything but you have to understand if there is animosity in your replies that people will take offence to it

Hope you manage to turn things around mate
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 22, 2013, 05:22:33 PM
Wind it in BWS. I've always supported you in the past mate but your behaviour has been a bit embarrasing in this thread

When you joined this site you should have been fully aware that we support Everton and dont take well to opposition fans coming on here trying to wind us up.

 In the past it was refreshing to hear from you as you seemed to have a bit of a soft spot for us, apart from when we play against you obviously. And also I appreciated your views, despite the blip when you defended the undefendable actions of Luis Suarez.

I'd like you to return to form of old to be honest mate, wipe the slate clean and join us for more friendly banter tomorrow!

I'm not saying everyone has been totally welcoming to you or anything but you have to understand if there is animosity in your replies that people will take offence to it

Hope you manage to turn things around mate

Fair enough pal. Will do.

...can I retract my "dicking you 4-1" statement? That was said in anger and I'd hate for that to be seen as cocky and arrogant. I'm feeling totally opposite in fact, not a good feeling at all. :-(

The thing is, the slim Spanish waiter has had good results against us in the past, and you can argue that this Everton team  is better than any Wigan team. As for that good win Liverpool got at Wigan last season, don't be fooled by that either - Wigan had more than their fair share of chances and Reina was on top form.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 22, 2013, 05:46:45 PM
Good on you BWS

As a pessimist I do think you guys will win unfortunately. We do have a strong home record though and have been solid at the back. My 2 worries are where our goals will come from and how we can stop Suarez

Lukaku scoring against you home and away last season does give me a bit of hope. We don't have many attacking players on form at the moment so I fear if Romelu doesn't net for us than no one will
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 22, 2013, 06:18:35 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2511738/Watch-video-mystery-Anfield-rap-backs-Liverpool-win-Merseyside-derby-hes-better-John-Barnes.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2511738/Watch-video-mystery-Anfield-rap-backs-Liverpool-win-Merseyside-derby-hes-better-John-Barnes.html)


 :bonk:
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 22, 2013, 06:20:29 PM
Yay for old BWS. Not the most glorious matchday thread thus far!

Just drew with Liverpool 1-1 on FM 2014 with Lukaku and Distin out and Heitinga and Jelavic in.  Obviously that means at full strength we will batter you what with FM being super realistic.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Danny on November 22, 2013, 06:27:21 PM
35 pages... I obviously missed the game then, what was the score?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 22, 2013, 06:28:01 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2511738/Watch-video-mystery-Anfield-rap-backs-Liverpool-win-Merseyside-derby-hes-better-John-Barnes.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2511738/Watch-video-mystery-Anfield-rap-backs-Liverpool-win-Merseyside-derby-hes-better-John-Barnes.html)


 :bonk:

(http://i.imgur.com/734B3tm.gif)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Danny on November 22, 2013, 06:41:00 PM
Cockwomble by the way lolol I reckon Bally just sits in his room all day pairing dictionary words with swear words trying to create a masterpiece.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: hill135 on November 22, 2013, 06:44:40 PM
Sturridge is an injury doubt. Can only help
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 22, 2013, 06:47:45 PM
Always hitting it off the porridge.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Good Citizen on November 22, 2013, 06:49:34 PM
Always makes me chuckle, you get a blue and a red arguing and they wont have a good word to say about each other's team, one side offers an olive branch and gives a little credit, the realism kicks in and 60 seconds later, you'd soon as expect them to be swapping season tickets. :)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 22, 2013, 06:54:29 PM
It's just too frecking hard to call.  Could have done without this international break as players who played both games may be not having enough recovery time.

Never watched the Uruguay match so can't say how hard Suarez played, even though it was a dead rubber.  And Sturridge could have done without playing seeing as though there were rumours he might have been suffering from an injury. The same goes for Gerrard as he had a niggling injury too.

Only good thing is seeing Everton players also playing in these International matches, so they'd be recovering too.

I just hope both Suarez and Sturridge are playing as that will give the Everton defence something to think about.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 22, 2013, 06:57:15 PM
It would definitely be a bonus to us if one if them fails to start. Saying that i think the international games have been over played in importance and expect both teams at full strength.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 22, 2013, 07:06:23 PM
It would definitely be a bonus to us if one if them fails to start. Saying that i think the international games have been over played in importance and expect both teams at full strength.

I see where you're coming from.

The way I see it is if both start then maybe Martinez will be less inclined to go on the attack and be a bit more reserved.  We'll see what happens.  The starting line-up should be interesting with all these "will-he/won't-he play such-a-body" floating around.

Tomorrow can't come soon enough.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Danny on November 22, 2013, 07:34:34 PM
I think it'll be interesting to see who keeps the possession with the way both teams play.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 22, 2013, 07:46:08 PM
well Liverpool have averaged the least amount of possession of the current top 8 so I imagine it will be us.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 22, 2013, 07:48:48 PM
I don't think Liverpool play possession football right now, they are far more direct than they have been. With the players they have it makes sense.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 22, 2013, 08:12:57 PM
BWS i think the word abuse is thrown around a little too freely here...You had a bit of a meltdown and ive thought you had lost it for a while now, what with the Suarez shit. Like others have said, this is an Everton forum so of course 'we' wont take kindly to threads started about us giving us shit, and of course we will give Lpool shit!! Just like you lot do on your forums.

Anyway, its over now, lets focus on the game, i doubt we will ever be best buddies but clean slate?

(http://i.imgur.com/thDGD.gif)

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 22, 2013, 08:14:57 PM
Fuck Big wooden Spoon.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 22, 2013, 08:30:28 PM
Fuck Big wooden Spoon.

or that...
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 22, 2013, 08:49:37 PM
Good piece on the BBC website from Kevin Kilbane.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25020677 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25020677)


It may be my biased nature but I think he's doing really well as a pundit/media commentator.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 22, 2013, 09:01:48 PM
Good piece on the BBC website from Kevin Kilbane.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25020677 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25020677)



It may be my biased nature but I think he's doing really well as a pundit/media commentator.

I read that last night, i enjoyed it, and also think he is a good pundit. Always looks bemused when that Garth Crooks is talking bullshit.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blue slug on November 22, 2013, 09:35:01 PM
Haha the infamous Garth Crooks, absolute helmet of the highest order
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 22, 2013, 09:40:23 PM
Almost 2/1 to win tomorrow.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 22, 2013, 09:49:58 PM
Fuck Big wooden Spoon.

And Liverpool Football Club.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 22, 2013, 09:50:35 PM
Almost 2/1 to win tomorrow.

Paddy Power have a special offer for new customers 7/1 Everton to win
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 22, 2013, 09:52:27 PM
Paddy Power have a special offer for new customers 7/1 Everton to win
fucking hell
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 22, 2013, 09:55:46 PM
I hope Martinez has the same success as Joe Royle did for us when he was manager.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Verm on November 22, 2013, 09:58:42 PM
Nerves setting in now.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 22, 2013, 10:00:06 PM
Paddy Power have a special offer for new customers 7/1 Everton to win

Ridiculous that.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 22, 2013, 10:03:56 PM
Nerves setting in now.

Had nervous twinges all week.

Had stomach churning pretty much all day.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 22, 2013, 10:06:39 PM
Had nervous twinges all week.

Had stomach churning pretty much all day.
didn't wanna talk about or think about it but it's took over know. My lfc mates are all very confident sturridge and Suarez far too good apparently
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 22, 2013, 10:13:13 PM
Listening to TalkSport before and they had a Liverpool fan on (Thick welsh accent! thought they all supported us?) and he reckoned 4-0 Suarez Hattrick. Most of them went for Liverpool win or draw.

Seems everybody is writing us off because they've been brilliant and we are unconvincing as shown by that monstrous 3 point gap.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 22, 2013, 10:14:07 PM
Listening to TalkSport before and they had a Liverpool fan on (Thick welsh accent! thought they all supported us?) and he reckoned 4-0 Suarez Hattrick. Most of them went for Liverpool win or draw.

Seems everybody is writing us off because they've been brilliant and we are unconvincing as shown by that monstrous 3 point gap.
be great when we beat em then
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 22, 2013, 10:14:32 PM
They all seem to think all they have to do to win is stop Baines.

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 22, 2013, 10:17:59 PM
What they have to do is to do what Spurs did to us.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 22, 2013, 10:19:47 PM
Listening to TalkSport before and they had a Liverpool fan on (Thick welsh accent! thought they all supported us?) and he reckoned 4-0 Suarez Hattrick. Most of them went for Liverpool win or draw.

Seems everybody is writing us off because they've been brilliant and we are unconvincing as shown by that monstrous 3 point gap.

Oblivious to the fact that it could work the other way.

Also there's no way that they'd think they'd win 0-4 at Spurs, for example.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 22, 2013, 10:20:11 PM
What they have to do is to do what Spurs did to us.
but create chances
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 22, 2013, 10:23:05 PM
but create chances

With Sturridge and Suarez, they'll have that. Spurs don't have anyone potent up front.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: whirlwind82 on November 22, 2013, 10:24:51 PM
Im stuck on a rig just off Norway so I'm guessing I will be surrounded by fuckin kopites tomorrow for the game. Am on days though so will miss the game but if everything stays silent ill take that as a good sign  nod
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 22, 2013, 10:25:52 PM
there is! lol

Less emocons or watever they're called.  :(
maybe, Suarez creates chances outta nothing
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 22, 2013, 10:26:34 PM
Gotta fucking love tapatalk
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 22, 2013, 10:32:44 PM
Gotta fucking love tapatalk

Use the mobi site Jim, tapatalk has been balls for ages
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 22, 2013, 10:36:22 PM
Use the mobi site Jim, tapatalk has been balls for ages
struggle with that on this phone mate
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Danny on November 22, 2013, 10:57:58 PM
I'm not really sure why people are nervous, I know it's a derby but barring them absolutely twatting us we can't really lose in the long run.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 22, 2013, 10:58:48 PM
Think we'll dominate the ball and the midfield, and they will be the more potent in attack.

Their defence is nothing to write home about though, so I'm hopeful we can turn our possession into chances and goals.

I'm nervous, in fact I'm bricking it and just want it to be over now, but I'm confident we'll win.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: American Evertonian on November 22, 2013, 11:22:37 PM
Going to be in NYC tomorrow for the match. Any blues here going to watch the game with the NYC Evertonians?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blue slug on November 22, 2013, 11:35:29 PM
If you can pay for my flight and accommodation i would love to come and watch the game with you in NYC American Evertonian
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Big Nev on November 22, 2013, 11:40:57 PM
Let's charter a plane.
If we leave by 6 am we'll be in JFK airport and then NYC just in time for the kick off
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 12:00:52 AM
Yeah, you should shoot over to JKF airport.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 23, 2013, 12:01:49 AM
Yeah, you should shoot over to JKF airport.

Satire, in the Everton vs Liverpool matchday thread.

This thread now has everything
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sirblue57 on November 23, 2013, 12:04:23 AM
bloody hell. you'll have to bomb it to get there in time.    :)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 12:09:26 AM
To get there on time, you'll certainly need to fLee.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 23, 2013, 12:09:52 AM
I'm not really sure why people are nervous, I know it's a derby but barring them absolutely twatting us we can't really lose in the long run.

Um, no.

Any loss short term, long term, enternity term and we've still lost.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 23, 2013, 12:10:36 AM
To get there on time, you'll certainly need to fLee.

It's a long shot that's for sure.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 23, 2013, 12:12:01 AM
my first thoughts are i hope we dont lose, it should be i hope we win this but sadly its not
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 23, 2013, 12:16:48 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24969016 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24969016)


Brendan Rogers face in that picture is amazing.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 12:18:18 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24969016 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24969016)


Brendan Rogers face in that picture is amazing.

Looks like someone's shot him in the back of his head.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 23, 2013, 12:46:33 AM
Listening to TalkSport before and they had a Liverpool fan on (Thick welsh accent! thought they all supported us?) and he reckoned 4-0 Suarez Hattrick. Most of them went for Liverpool win or draw.

Seems everybody is writing us off because they've been brilliant and we are unconvincing as shown by that monstrous 3 point gap.

I heard that, I was more pissed off with H & J basically saying we've been shite bar a couple of matches and they're not impressed with us. Wouldn't we go third if we best these? Shite indeed.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 23, 2013, 01:18:46 AM
I heard that, I was more pissed off with H & J basically saying we've been shite bar a couple of matches and they're not impressed with us. Wouldn't we go third if we best these? Shite indeed.

2nd with a 4-0 win.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 01:28:17 AM
2nd with a 4-0 win.

We are well overdue a thrashing of them. I've never seen us win 4-0 against them.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: pjk on November 23, 2013, 01:29:02 AM
Win

2-1

Lukaku
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 23, 2013, 01:35:04 AM
We are well overdue a thrashing of them. I've never seen us win 4-0 against them.

1964 I think was the last time.

The AJ game is the only 3 goal margin in that time too.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Toddacelli on November 23, 2013, 01:35:07 AM
I'm working with a horrible redshite at the mo who, to the best of my knowledge,  has never even set foot in Merseyside before. I obviously care more about the result,  but it will be hard to get through next week if we lose.
You may see me on the news.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: goodtouchforabigman on November 23, 2013, 01:38:21 AM
Talking about the derby on Radio 5 now
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 01:42:22 AM
1964 I think was the last time.

The AJ game is the only 3 goal margin in that time too.

That's just so wrong.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Danny on November 23, 2013, 01:43:22 AM
Um, no.

Any loss short term, long term, enternity term and we've still lost.

What I basically meant was that we had a shit record against them under Moyes anyway so as long as Martinez doesn't lose 4-0 then were likely to have a better record against them in the future.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 23, 2013, 02:00:27 AM
What I basically meant was that we had a shit record against them under Moyes anyway so as long as Martinez doesn't lose 4-0 then were likely to have a better record against them in the future.

I dare say we've been thinking like that since about 1970!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 23, 2013, 02:05:59 AM
I dare say we've been thinking like that since about 1970!

We done alright in the 90's, especially later on in the decade. They didn't beat us much.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 02:08:22 AM
We done alright in the 90's, especially later on in the decade. They didn't beat us much.

Didn't beat us once when Joe Royle was manager. Still never managed the double over them though.

The closest I've seen us do the double over them was when we played them in the first division winning one and losing one, and then beating them at Anfield in the Littlewoods Cup and then losing at home in the FA Cup.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Stumpy on November 23, 2013, 02:11:26 AM
Done the double over them in 84-85 blarg,two 1-0 wins
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 23, 2013, 02:13:07 AM
That's just so wrong.

http://www.evertonresults.com/derbyscores.htm (http://www.evertonresults.com/derbyscores.htm)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 02:13:37 AM
Done the double over them in 84-85 blarg,two 1-0 wins

That was just a year or so before I started supporting us. So I've never seen us do the double in almost 30 years of trying.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 23, 2013, 02:13:38 AM
first derby Bob Latch will have watched while not on the pitch, which was a bit of a shock to me.  let's hope he's a good luck charm!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 23, 2013, 02:15:13 AM
Overdue on the double front too...

http://www.evertonresults.com/derbydoubles.htm (http://www.evertonresults.com/derbydoubles.htm)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 02:16:20 AM
http://www.evertonresults.com/derbyscores.htm (http://www.evertonresults.com/derbyscores.htm)

I meant wrong as in we've hardly thrashed them, not as in factual terms. Poor choice of word, should have used sad.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 23, 2013, 02:16:50 AM
2-1 win with Lukaku first goalscorer is 33-1 :O
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 23, 2013, 02:17:32 AM
I meant wrong as in we've hardly thrashed them, not as in factual terms. Poor choice of word, should have used sad.

Yeah I know - I was providing more tales of woe!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 02:18:22 AM
Time to change all that.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Stumpy on November 23, 2013, 02:19:46 AM
I'm 52 and that 84-85 double is the only one i can remember.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 02:32:37 AM
2-1 win with Lukaku first goalscorer is 33-1 :O

45-1 with Stan James  nod
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 23, 2013, 02:39:07 AM
Didn't beat us once when Joe Royle was manager. Still never managed the double over them though.

The closest I've seen us do the double over them was when we played them in the first division winning one and losing one, and then beating them at Anfield in the Littlewoods Cup and then losing at home in the FA Cup.

We were close in 96...a late fowler goal at Goodison to get a 1-1 draw for them seen to that though. The pitch was like a swamp that night.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 23, 2013, 03:12:11 AM
According to twitter the club have put 'things' on the seats for tomorrow...probably a mosaic. I hope it's nothing cringeworthy.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 23, 2013, 03:15:29 AM
According to twitter the club have put 'things' on the seats for tomorrow...probably a mosaic. I hope it's nothing cringeworthy.

potatoes with razor blades stuck in the skin to throw?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: charlatan on November 23, 2013, 03:28:25 AM
(http://img2.etsystatic.com/012/0/6332860/il_340x270.421566806_repz.jpg)

and

(http://www.resist.com/updates/2009/AUG_09/ObongoKlansman.jpg)

?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 03:48:20 AM
According to twitter the club have put 'things' on the seats for tomorrow...probably a mosaic. I hope it's nothing cringeworthy.

Please don't be plastic flags.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 23, 2013, 03:53:55 AM
Tony Soprano is going to blow his top
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 23, 2013, 03:54:31 AM
BWS i think the word abuse is thrown around a little too freely here...You had a bit of a meltdown and ive thought you had lost it for a while now, what with the Suarez shit. Like others have said, this is an Everton forum so of course 'we' wont take kindly to threads started about us giving us shit, and of course we will give Lpool shit!! Just like you lot do on your forums.

Anyway, its over now, lets focus on the game, i doubt we will ever be best buddies but clean slate?

(http://i.imgur.com/thDGD.gif)

 ;D ;D

The word abuse was used because that is what it was, abuse. Let's call a spade a spade hey and not dress it up as something it isn't. And as for the Suarez thing, I was giving an opposing view and I stick by the points I made.

But yeah, lets talk football and let's wipe the slate clean.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 23, 2013, 03:55:09 AM
Please don't be plastic flags.

@evertonarentwe knows what it is and has confirmed it's not plastic flags or shitty clappers. He won't say what it is though but I can't think of anything wise but a mosaic, which I'd rather we didn't do either. Doesn't add anything to the atmosphere.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 23, 2013, 03:55:59 AM
...I've read Flannaghan maybe playing.

Never seen him hace a good game yet. And he looks as gormless as fuck.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 23, 2013, 03:58:31 AM
potatoes with razor blades stuck in the skin to throw?

It'd save me throwing my coins at them.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 23, 2013, 04:03:44 AM
According to twitter the club have put 'things' on the seats for tomorrow...probably a mosaic. I hope it's nothing cringeworthy.

It's a mosiac of BWS holding up a big fuck off courgette.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 23, 2013, 04:05:50 AM
it's skull caps as Lee Carsley is on the pitch at half time waving to us
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 23, 2013, 04:08:01 AM
It's a mosiac of BWS holding up a big fuck off courgette.


*Sorry Lizz. Courgettegate reigns on.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 23, 2013, 04:15:22 AM

*Sorry Lizz. Courgettegate reigns on.

I'm finding all this courgette forgiveness hard to swallow, it leaves a bitter taste in the mouth*



*. apparently
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 23, 2013, 04:18:43 AM
I'm finding all this courgette forgiveness hard to swallow, it leaves a bitter taste in the mouth*



*. I know this because I'm on the receiving end of a 20 man bukakke every Thursday night...I love it.

Fixed!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 23, 2013, 04:32:16 AM
Fixed!

(http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/spn_gasp-gif.gif)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sharpattack on November 23, 2013, 05:04:24 AM
I am genuinely impressed by people going to this game, or watching it on TV, who are of the firm belief that we will get a result. I cannot comvince myself. Maybe it's years of being sickened but I cannot bring myself to even watch this game on TV. Really hope I'm wrong
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 23, 2013, 05:11:19 AM
I am genuinely impressed by people going to this game, or watching it on TV, who are of the firm belief that we will get a result. I cannot comvince myself. Maybe it's years of being sickened but I cannot bring myself to even watch this game on TV. Really hope I'm wrong
not gonna watch at all?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Danny on November 23, 2013, 05:14:06 AM
Sharpattack I feel the same but if you don't watch it you'll regret it if we do something amazing
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 05:15:00 AM
I am genuinely impressed by people going to this game,

It's called supporting your team.

Really hope I'm wrong

Nothing new there then  ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 23, 2013, 05:27:57 AM
I am genuinely impressed by people going to this game, or watching it on TV, who are of the firm belief that we will get a result. I cannot comvince myself. Maybe it's years of being sickened but I cannot bring myself to even watch this game on TV. Really hope I'm wrong

You're fuckin' ace you.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 23, 2013, 05:29:59 AM
I am genuinely impressed by people going to this game, or watching it on TV, who are of the firm belief that we will get a result. I cannot comvince myself. Maybe it's years of being sickened but I cannot bring myself to even watch this game on TV. Really hope I'm wrong

I'm so confident I've set Sky Plus to record it so I can watch it all over again when I get home
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 05:30:05 AM
The thread is already longer than last season's fixture and currently the third longest this season! (Stevenage 45 and Spurs 51)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 23, 2013, 05:30:55 AM
The thread is already longer than last season's fixture and currently the third longest this season! (Stevenage 45 and Spurs 51)

I truly hate international breaks!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 23, 2013, 05:30:59 AM
I am genuinely impressed by people who are of the firm belief that we will get a result. I cannot bring myself to admit I love Liverpool F.C. and I am in fact Bigwoodenspoon. Maybe it's years of being sick, but I cannot bring myself to even buy a  TV. Really hope I die soon.

Word.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 23, 2013, 05:35:34 AM
The thread is already longer than last season's fixture and currently the third longest this season! (Stevenage 45 and Spurs 51)

And it's still 13 hours before we even kick a ball. Fuck me, there's gonna be some cyber casualties tomorrow. I'm glad I'm in fuckin' Ludlow for this.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 23, 2013, 05:36:30 AM
I wont be on here during or after the match thankfully
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 05:37:49 AM
I wont be on here during or after the match thankfully

You going out Jimmy? You kept that quiet.  ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 23, 2013, 05:38:56 AM
with the excellent 4g coverage at Goodison, I may very well be on here during the match :(
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 05:39:01 AM
I wont be on here during or after the match thankfully

Can you take Steve81 with you?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 23, 2013, 05:43:40 AM
Can you take Steve81 with you?

You heartless bastard shogun Steve81 is the very reason most people go to the match instead of posting on here, don't ruin it for them
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 23, 2013, 05:43:58 AM
I'm so confident I've set Sky Plus to record it so I can watch it all over again when I get home

Thats as bad a curse as listening to it on the radio.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 23, 2013, 05:46:08 AM
Steve81 is going window shopping with BWS for a new ego.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 23, 2013, 05:53:54 AM
You going out Jimmy? You kept that quiet.  ;)
I like you to know gash
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 23, 2013, 05:54:27 AM
Can you take Steve81 with you?
no, not ever
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 23, 2013, 05:55:56 AM
The word abuse was used because that is what it was, abuse. Let's call a spade a spade hey and not dress it up as something it isn't. And as for the Suarez thing, I was giving an opposing view and I stick by the points I made.

But yeah, lets talk football and let's wipe the slate clean.

Get a grip lad
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 05:55:56 AM
I am genuinely impressed by people going to this game, or watching it on TV, who are of the firm belief that we will get a result. I cannot comvince myself. Maybe it's years of being sickened but I cannot bring myself to even watch this game on TV. Really hope I'm wrong

I sort of know what you mean. I will be watching it, and always will watch us in any game we play regardless of the situation, but this is the one game where it actually feels like a physical ordeal to experience it.

If we're losing it actually feels sickening, and if we're drawing or winning you can never ever relax and enjoy it, because it's tinged with constant worry and the fear of them coming back. There's so much on the game it's fucking ridiculous. So either way, I just want it to be over and to deal with the pain (or not hopefully). Pure mental torture for 90 odd minutes.

I've got no real reasoning or logic for it at this point, but I think we'll win tomorrow.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 05:58:03 AM
Get a grip lad

Let it go Liz. We've all had our say, there's not need for everyone to keep it going.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 23, 2013, 05:58:03 AM
As long as we don't start on the back foot we'll beat these.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 05:59:12 AM
As long as we start the game like we did last season, what a blast that was.  :eh:
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 23, 2013, 06:01:19 AM
As long as we start the game like we did last season, what a blast that was.  :eh:

That was, well, gash. My lads first derby and I thought we were gonna get arse raped after the first 20/25 minutes. Only for Ossie and Naisy to step up before half time. Then of course they were "robbed", which made it all the more enjoyable.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 06:07:41 AM
That was, well, gash. My lads first derby and I thought we were gonna get arse raped after the first 20/25 minutes. Only for Ossie and Naisy to step up before half time. Then of course they were "robbed", which made it all the more enjoyable.

Where we were sitting, Gerrard slid by us at full tilt, it was a sight to behold.  ;D
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 23, 2013, 06:31:35 AM
Just a thought on that mosaic, it could be a Dave Hickson tribute being he played for both clubs?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sharpattack on November 23, 2013, 06:37:36 AM
Sharpattack I feel the same but if you don't watch it you'll regret it if we do something amazing
A small price to pay
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 23, 2013, 06:47:50 AM
Just a thought on that mosaic, it could be a Dave Hickson tribute being he played for both clubs?

Nice touch if that's correct.



Although god help us if Peter Beardsley snuffs it, who'd want to see a giant picture of his grid
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: hill135 on November 23, 2013, 06:51:23 AM
Chin up boys and girls! I'm feeling fairly optimistic about tomorrow. They aren't all that and are flattered by their league position. Moyes' cautious approach held us back in recent derbies and we don't need to worry about that now. I'm backing us to win this one 2-0
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Glory on November 23, 2013, 08:05:13 AM
Cup final day is upon us once again! lolol
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blueski on November 23, 2013, 09:04:59 AM
A small price to pay
the heartache and indignation is part of being an everton supporter

I expect you with eyes on the match at the kick
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blueski on November 23, 2013, 09:07:03 AM
oh and I do think we've got as fair a shout at getting a result COYB!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 23, 2013, 02:32:26 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/23/pa7ugenu.jpg)

I'm sure a few of us will disagree with Paddy Powers 8-3 ratio of reds to blues in the Merseyside XI!

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 23, 2013, 02:39:49 PM
Not sure about the midfield!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 23, 2013, 02:49:15 PM
Not sure about the midfield!

Strange one. I'd say most Everton fans think our midfield is better but most Liverpool fans would say theres is better

One thing is for certain: Jordan Henderson isn't in the top 3!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sirblue57 on November 23, 2013, 02:52:13 PM
Strange one. I'd say most Everton fans think our midfield is better but most Liverpool fans would say theres is better

One thing is for certain: Jordan Henderson isn't in the top 300

fixed
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 23, 2013, 03:13:05 PM
Either way I'm sure people must always be confused how we compete with them - or more probably why they're so poor.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: wepull on November 23, 2013, 04:08:53 PM
I think we will win this one. I think our entire team ahead of the defence(except pienaar and Osman who might not start) and have never lost a match to Liverpool while representing Everton, plus we have a new manager. So the mindset of the team will be very different from previous games and we will go to win. This will be a huge plus for us just need the supporters to do the same and we'll tear them a new one.

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Thom on November 23, 2013, 04:16:05 PM
I think we will win this one. I think our entire team ahead of the defence(except pienaar and Osman who might not start) and have never lost a match to Liverpool while representing Everton, plus we have a new manager. So the mindset of the team will be very different from previous games and we will go to win. This will be a huge plus for us just need the supporters to do the same and we'll tear them a new one.



The result could go either way, in my opinion.

We have a manager who will instill a belief in the players' minds today, we can control the possession better than we have done in the past and at home we're a formidable side... but Liverpool are obviously flying high themselves and Suarez will be a real worry as always, whether that's by his quality or his absolute cuntishness.

It'll be one of the more open derbies we'll see in recent years, but I just don't want to predict a result for us. Naturally I'm hoping for what the rest of us are (damn, I can't even say the word!) but I'm keeping schtum so as not to jinx it.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 23, 2013, 04:22:47 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/23/pa7ugenu.jpg)

I'm sure a few of us will disagree with Paddy Powers 8-3 ratio of reds to blues in the Merseyside XI!

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2

I thought Liverpool fans wanted rid of Skrtl over the summer?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 04:34:53 PM
It's well seen Sky don't have the game. They're giving the Yorkshire derby more coverage the Merseyside derby.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 23, 2013, 04:39:30 PM
It's well seen Sky don't have the game. They're giving the Yorkshire derby more coverage the Merseyside derby.

When BT have all the champions league matches I expect the capital one cup will take a huge step up in significance
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 04:43:56 PM
When BT have all the champions league matches I expect the capital one cup will take a huge step up in significance

Haha, very true. I can kind of understand it, but Sky are terrible for not giving mention to sports or events they aren't covering. F1 being a great example, they used to barely mention a race result, now it's blanket coverage.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 23, 2013, 05:00:27 PM
Nerves have kicked in :(
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 05:01:22 PM
I was talking to a friend who supports Liverpool last night and he chose 6 Everton and 5 Liverpool players, which he immediately regretted in hindsight. I think Gerrard and Suarez are the only ones you'd have to admit would get in, even through biased eyes. Mignolet, Johnson, Agger, Leiva, Countinho and Sturridge are also close and debatable, but the last 3 depend on formation.

To be fair to Paddy Power it says based on Whoscored ratings, so it's not opinion as such. Although they have conveniently left out Gareth Barry, who has a higher rating than Leiva and Henderson.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 23, 2013, 05:05:39 PM
This Tim Lovejoy show on Bt Sport before the derby is unvelievably bad

Considering just finding a stream from the US with Warren Barton commentating instead for the match
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: MmmblueBernard on November 23, 2013, 05:17:13 PM

This Tim Lovejoy show on Bt Sport before the derby is unvelievably bad

Considering just finding a stream from the US with Warren Barton commentating instead for the match

Ha haa. That's the first time I've turned over to BT sport since I got it last week. To be greeted by that twat has got me off to a bad start.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 23, 2013, 05:23:06 PM
That's a strange Merseyside 11 isn't it?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 05:24:34 PM
Big Nev does a blog for Paddy Power, not sure if its been posted, so here it is.

http://blog.paddypower.com/2013/11/20/neville-southall-exclusive-this-could-be-the-best-merseyside-derby-weve-had-in-a-long-time/?AFF_ID=16562 (http://blog.paddypower.com/2013/11/20/neville-southall-exclusive-this-could-be-the-best-merseyside-derby-weve-had-in-a-long-time/?AFF_ID=16562)

Quote from: Big Nev's Blog
The Merseyside Derby is special. Liverpool and Everton are like brothers. They can fight as much as they want amongst themselves, but when it comes to someone knocking the city, they are united.

The people of Liverpool have shown solidarity through so many difficulties. Hillsborough, the politicians who have tried to destroyed the city, the war, the social problems – any time someone attacks the city, they’ve stood together and that’s why to me, it’s the greatest football city in the world and this is the best derby of them all.

They’ve stood shoulder to shoulder on everything. Blue and red standing together. They stick together like nothing I’ve ever seen. They go to the game together, they take it in the right spirit and they don’t always go home together and they sometimes have a fight, but it’s not hatred. There’s genuine camaraderie. The opposing fans in Manchester, Glasgow, Sunderland and Newcastle don’t seem to get along well, but in Liverpool they do. Come derby time the banter kicks off and it’s a nightmare if you’ve to go into work on a Monday when your team’s lost the derby, it’s horrendous.

It’s Local Property

It’s become a derby for the fans rather than the players. At most we’ll see three or four Scousers play. You need local lads in the dressing room reminding everyone how important it is. Now there’s not even that many British lads, let alone Scousers who know what it means to both clubs. When you’re not brought up in it, it’s hard to get as passionate about it. They want to win it like they do any other game, but they’re not as aware of what it’s like in the city. For them it ends at around 3pm on Saturday, but for the fans it’ll run for the entire week and beyond. That’s the intensity the players need to understand. As a fan, every time you get a bit of stick, it’s like a little dagger being stuck into your body. That’s how much it hurts and it takes a long time to heal.

I used to be embarrassed walking around Liverpool after losing a derby. You could feel everyone’s eyes burning into you thinking ‘you should have done better, you should have won that.’ I knew how much it meant to the fans and it was hard to live with the disappointment of letting them down in the aftermath.

One of my first derbies was when we got beaten 5-0 at home in 1982. That was one of the worst derbies in was involved in. It got me sent out on loan to Port Vale and ended Glenn Keeley’s career at Everton after half an hour. I played in an awful lot of them and the charm is you never know what’s coming. I also learned pretty quickly that there’s no point shouting at your defence because nobody can hear you it was that loud. It was proper British football and the manager used to tell you to get the first tackle in. It didn’t really matter if you got the ball because it was a derby and you weren’t going to get booked, at least not first up. That doesn’t really happen anymore and the intensity of the crowd has dropped over the years.

There were some good ones. Whenever we won was great, but the 4-4 draw in the 1991 FA Cup fifth round was fantastic. You always want to win, but if you can’t, you hope that football wins and on that night it won. Eight goals and none of them a bad one. The only sour note afterwards was Kenny Dalglish resigned and the city lost someone they shouldn’t have lost at the time. He took so much on his shoulders that the whole city, not just Liverpool Football Club, owe him a huge debt of gratitude.

I fully understand why he did it though because the hardest Merseyside Derby of them all was the one after Hillsborough, the FA Cup Final. That was really, really difficult. We were in a no win situation. It shouldn’t have been played. I’d have rather given up the cup or postponed it into next season because morally it didn’t feel right. When the game started, we wanted to win, but it was difficult for all of us to play in. Even our fans saw the bigger picture. They wanted to win, but they all knew the more important question was ‘how does the city get over it?’. That’s the solidarity of the city.

I remember being on the team bus coming home after beating Norwich at Villa Park the same day. We got to The Rocket, a big pub on the M62 where the fans met before going to away games and we saw the Liverpool fans and knew something wasn’t right. To this day I don’t exactly know how we got that far without being told what had happened, but it was before mobile phones and instant news so I suppose it was easier done than we can imagine now. We were chuffed to bits to be in the final, but once we knew what was going on we were devastated. Football suddenly became nothing. It was such an eerie feeling.
More than a passing interest

This season, there’s similarities between the teams and it should make for an open game at Goodison Park. Both teams are playing some lovely football, passing the ball around. We’ve got Lukaku as our target up front and Liverpool have Suarez and Sturridge. I’m expecting one of the best derbies I’ve seen in a long, long time. It may not provide the excitement of others, but both teams play the right way, like to attack and the styles of both managers should make it a cracking game to watch.

Luis Suarez is key. He’s just one of those players who can create a moment of magic. It’s brilliant to watch. A lot will depend on how he feels after coming back from international duty in Uruguay. In this fixture last year, he was brilliant. He was aggressive, he was fouling people, he worked hard and he was getting in people’s faces. I can remember thinking ‘he’s bossing our central defenders. He’s pushing them around, kicking them. It’s not meant to be that way. You should be kicking him!’ He dominated our centre halves and that’s not right.

With characters like Suarez, you can handle it one of two ways. You can either clear him out the first time he misbehaves and draw the line there or you live with him. If I was in the same team, I’d be prepared to live with him. You can’t ignore he’s done some bad things, but he makes up for it with his performances. He plays on the edge and at times he just gets carried away with it. When he bit Ivanovic, you could tell it was a spur of the moment thing because he picked on the biggest player on the pitch. There’s no thought behind that. If you’re going bite anyone – and I don’t recommend that anyone those – pick somebody small! Some players just need to have that little bit of devilment to their game and the bottom line is you’d rather play with him than against him.

But he got it all wrong by looking for a transfer. The club showed so much support and he basically kicked them in the bollocks. To his credit, he hasn’t said much since, he has knuckled down and he’s been great since he came back. He’s realised he’s in a great city, playing for one of the best clubs in the world and life is pretty good right now.
Everton need to make it a Red letter day

It’s more important for Everton to win than it is Liverpool. Our record hasn’t been good in recent years and it’s because David Moyes went out with a defensive mindset to avoid defeat. We could have won a lot more of those derbies if he had been more willing to go for it. Roberto Martinez has a completely different attitude to Moyes and it gives Everton a great chance of winning. Moyes wasn’t confident and that fed through to the fans.

If Everton are to win, they need to make it a bit old school. We know Liverpool can pass, but can they pass with players in their faces and under physical pressure? The fans want to see that aggression and barring an Everton scoring a goal, the loudest cheer of the game will be the first time one of our players crunches into a Liverpool player. I’d say there’ll be a red card.

Romelu Lukaku will be very important. Liverpool are still vulnerable in the air and he can exploit that. He’s already got a couple of goals against them for West Brom and they’re just one of the teams that suit his strengths.

Nev’s bets

Lukaku to score first and Everton to win 2-1 – 33/1

Baines to score at anytime – 5/1
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 23, 2013, 05:30:49 PM
Ha haa. That's the first time I've turned over to BT sport since I got it last week. To be greeted by that twat has got me off to a bad start.

did I really just watch them act out a scene from pulp fiction?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 05:42:38 PM
Weird seeing Ray Stubbs doing interviews, I keep expecting Bobby George to rock up next to him with his darts.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: taffytoffee on November 23, 2013, 05:46:47 PM
sorry if its been posted guys but does anybody know of any streams for today? Couldn't get to the game and i'm not paying for that bt shite
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on November 23, 2013, 05:46:55 PM
Sturridge on the bench, Flanagan starts
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 05:47:21 PM
Barkley in for Osman is only change
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 23, 2013, 05:48:05 PM
Barkley in for Osman is only change

Good news!


Who's Evertonian in NC got on the bench?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on November 23, 2013, 05:48:54 PM
Barkley in Osman out
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 05:50:08 PM
Strange team from them

@Everton: Liverpool: Mignolet, Johnson, Flanagan, Agger, Skrtel, Lucas, Allen, Henderson, Gerard, Coutinho, Suarez. #EFCLFC
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 23, 2013, 05:50:52 PM
Flanagan left back. Fucking hell, he goes to envi.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 05:51:08 PM
Very beatable team that. Especially with Joe Allen, Liverpool's very own James McCarthy.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 23, 2013, 05:52:06 PM
Flanagan left back. Fucking hell, he goes to envi.

It will probably be Johnson left back, Flanagan right back
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 23, 2013, 05:52:50 PM
They're playing Joe Allen?

Heavy.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: charlatan on November 23, 2013, 05:52:52 PM
Shark face shitting himself packing their midfield with shite like Henderson, Leiva and "sideways" Allen.

Stand up blues, this is our time
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Danny on November 23, 2013, 05:53:08 PM
It will probably be Johnson left back, Flanagan right back

Our wings should rip him to shit no matter which side he's on.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 05:53:39 PM
Mirallas tore Wisdom a new arseole in last years derby, hopefully he will roast Flannigan today aswell.

He is due a good performance Mirallas.

Still havent got a clue here, hate derbies.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 23, 2013, 05:53:44 PM
It will probably be Johnson left back, Flanagan right back

Flanagan against Baines and Pienaar?

Rodgers isnt that stupid is he
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 05:56:02 PM
Doesn't Toure play right back occasionally? I'm surprised he didn't play him there and Johnson on the left. Not that I'm worried, the weaker they are the better.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 23, 2013, 05:56:27 PM
Our wings should rip him to shit no matter which side he's on.

You'd hope so!

There going to be very narrow and are heavily reliant on Suarez and Countinho on the counter, I think we've got the pace at the back to deal with that. It's going to be a slog in the middle though
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 05:56:55 PM
It's just a case of keeping Suarez quiet, he wins games for them on his own sometimes.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 23, 2013, 05:57:20 PM
There for the taking. Got to do this today
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 05:59:04 PM
It's just a case of keeping Suarez quiet, he wins games for them on his own sometimes.

inclined to agree

promising stream -

http://atdhe.xxx/soccer/watch-everton-vs-liverpool-4fg37 (http://atdhe.xxx/soccer/watch-everton-vs-liverpool-4fg37)

stream already up and running   :D
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 06:02:03 PM
Interesting one from Brenda that. I presume it's some variation of the 4-5-1/4-2-3-1.
Maybe....

                       Mignolet
Flanagan      Skrtel      Agger       Johnson
                Lucas      Allen/Gerrard
Henderson     Gerrard/Allen         Coutinho
                      Suarez

 
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 06:07:19 PM
This All seems a little too easy...
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 23, 2013, 06:08:44 PM
Mirallas has got to have a right go at flanagan today. Shouldnt start the next game if he doesnt get the better of him. Deulofeu should come on if this isnt happening after an hour cos he will rinse him
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 06:11:38 PM
If Johnson does start on the left for them, I'd be tempted to swap Mirallas and Pienaar from the start, and let Kev loose on the youngster. It's his favourite position anyway, and he was firing for Belgium in midweek.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 06:11:53 PM
Good stream www.cricfree.tv/bt-sports-1.php (http://www.cricfree.tv/bt-sports-1.php)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 23, 2013, 06:12:31 PM
Interesting one from Brenda that. I presume it's some variation of the 4-5-1/4-2-3-1.
Maybe....

                       Mignolet
Flanagan      Skrtel      Agger       Johnson
                Lucas      Allen/Gerrard
Henderson     Gerrard/Allen         Coutinho
                      Suarez

 

Looks like a false 11 to me that. Somethings not right. Its too quiet.......
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 23, 2013, 06:14:25 PM
The things on the seats is just a blue bit of paper
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 06:14:32 PM
It's a trap...
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 06:17:18 PM
Looks like a false 11 to me that. Somethings not right. Its too quiet.......

It's an odd one. It looks like Brenda is shitting it about losing the battle for possession in the middle so he's thrown Allen in from nowhere, but he seems to have made their wings a lot weaker. I do actually think Johnson has played better at left back, than right back when I've seen him play there.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 23, 2013, 06:17:20 PM
The things on the seats is just a blue bit of paper

Just in case like?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 06:18:47 PM
Henderson playing up alongside Coutniho and Suarez according to NBC.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 23, 2013, 06:21:09 PM
It's an odd one. It looks like Brenda is shitting it about losing the battle for possession in the middle so he's thrown Allen in from nowhere, but he seems to have made their wings a lot weaker. I do actually think Johnson has played better at left back, than right back when I've seen him play there.

 Gerrard will be set free to roam with Allen & Leiva covering for him.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 23, 2013, 06:21:52 PM
Still can't take anything for granted with them twats.

COYBB.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 06:22:02 PM
http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=42923.msg672598#msg672598 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=42923.msg672598#msg672598)  :whistle:
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: DannyR on November 23, 2013, 06:22:14 PM
Full of full kit wankers here in the ale house
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 06:23:20 PM
Henderson playing up alongside Coutniho and Suarez according to NBC.

Does that mean Gerrard's playing quarterback?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 06:24:01 PM
Full of full kit wankers here in the ale house

Oooohh, look at me, I'm drinking.  ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 06:24:50 PM
Does that mean Gerrard's playing quarterback?

Sack the quarterback!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 06:25:21 PM
Let's bear in mind that American TV often makes up it's own formations. They often had Felli playing up front for us, when he was in defensive midfield and it took them an entire half to realise they were wrong.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 06:27:07 PM
Let's bear in mind that American TV often makes up it's own formations. They often had Felli playing up front for us, when he was in defensive midfield and it took them an entire half to realise they were wrong.

let's just thank them for the streams, and ignore everything they say :)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 06:27:31 PM
Everton double, Martinez wife gave birth yesterday and a derby win today.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 23, 2013, 06:29:17 PM
This All seems a little too easy...

I would take our third 0-0 in a row, RIGHT NOW.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 23, 2013, 06:29:30 PM
Everton double, Martinez wife gave birth yesterday and a derby win today.

Hope the kid doesn't mind being called Lukaku.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 06:29:50 PM
Let's bear in mind that American TV often makes up it's own formations. They often had Felli playing up front for us, when he was in defensive midfield and it took them an entire half to realise they were wrong.

We have Robbie Earle and Robbie Mustoe as the pundits.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 06:30:51 PM
I would take our third 0-0 in a row, RIGHT NOW.
Fuck that.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 06:31:12 PM
Fuck that.

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 06:31:27 PM
Hope the kid doesn't mind being called Lukaku.

Hopefully the kid doesn't look like Lukaku, and is vaguely Mediterranean looking. Don't want RM distracted on his big day.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 23, 2013, 06:33:48 PM
Fuck that.


I'm always completely miserable for these, apologies.  Why does our bogey team have to be our city rival?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 06:35:11 PM
I'm always completely miserable for these, apologies.  Why does our bogey team have to be our city rival?

Come on Cutty...channel some fucking positive vibes lad. There'll be plenty of time for misery if it goes against us.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 23, 2013, 06:35:13 PM
Hopefully the kid doesn't look like Lukaku, and is vaguely Mediterranean looking. Don't want RM distracted on his big day.

Wahayyyyy!


 :badum:

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 06:38:43 PM
howard's upside down head should help confuse the bastards!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 06:40:15 PM
I can't wait, Lukaku to score a hat-trick is 100-1 with bet365  nod
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 06:40:22 PM
howard's upside down head should help confuse the bastards!

hahhaa I would like that but the like button has gone.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 23, 2013, 06:40:26 PM
"Been up since 6am waiting for this game. Great to see Ross Barkley starting. Will be good to see him dominate Joe Allen in midfield." Tim Cahill


Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: School of Science on November 23, 2013, 06:41:49 PM
Please god lads just win I dont care how.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 06:42:48 PM
"Been up since 6am waiting for this game. Great to see Ross Barkley starting. Will be good to see him dominate Joe Allen in midfield." Tim Cahill




I've been up since 5.30 Tim!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 06:44:14 PM
Two Scousers in each side?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 23, 2013, 06:45:23 PM
Come on Cutty...channel some fucking positive vibes lad. There'll be plenty of time for misery if it goes against us.

Blue Bill says he thinks RM has the knack for big games.   Maybe today will be our day.  Game on, COYB
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 23, 2013, 06:46:15 PM
Did Brendan Rogers just call Suarez a 'wonderful character'??

What do they feed people over there?

COYB!!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 06:46:41 PM
COYB
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 06:49:57 PM
Fucking hell.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 06:50:02 PM
Fuck
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 23, 2013, 06:50:19 PM
Nice little run from McCarthy there, some decent touches. Got to calm it down though a bit.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 06:50:25 PM
ffs. fucking shite defending!!!! bollocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 23, 2013, 06:50:43 PM
wtf
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 23, 2013, 06:50:43 PM
Fuck
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 06:50:55 PM
Awful Marking.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blueToffee on November 23, 2013, 06:51:11 PM
Pathetic. We've been poor on corners all season.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Danny on November 23, 2013, 06:51:21 PM
Why the fuck was McCarthy behind the line the idiot
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 06:51:30 PM
Think Lukaku lost him.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 23, 2013, 06:52:07 PM
Id be embarrassed if we defended like that on a Sunday morning hungover from Saturday. Absolutely shambolic.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 23, 2013, 06:52:37 PM
Lukaku should have tracked moutinho.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 06:52:42 PM
i'd take that 0-0 now :( fuck it.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 06:53:07 PM
Shit happens. We can still win, they're still over-rated.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blueToffee on November 23, 2013, 06:53:10 PM
Get in!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 06:53:10 PM
Get the fuck in
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 06:53:20 PM
Yes! Mirallas!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Nicco on November 23, 2013, 06:53:23 PM
Thank fuck!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 06:53:26 PM
fucking get in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 23, 2013, 06:53:52 PM
More fucking like it. Them cunts cant defend either
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 23, 2013, 06:54:23 PM
GET THE HOLY FUCK IN!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 06:54:25 PM
That would never have happened under Moyes ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 06:54:50 PM
Great tekkers Superkev, with the outside of the boot.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 06:55:37 PM
we're playing the cunts off the park now :)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: dangermouse on November 23, 2013, 06:56:00 PM
Come on Everton. ..... these are SHITE
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 06:57:30 PM
fuck.  nearly...........
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 06:57:39 PM
So close, just couldn't take the touch round him. Slightly too heavy from Pienaar
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: wepull on November 23, 2013, 06:57:39 PM
Was it a foul??
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 06:57:45 PM
Almst in Lukaku. Too strong from Pienaar.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 06:57:57 PM
Better pass and that's a simple goal.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 06:58:14 PM
Just a tad over hit to Lukaku, almost.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 07:00:55 PM
Barkley looks really fired up and is playing superbly.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 07:01:35 PM
We need another. We have them on the ropes a bit.
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Post by: Nicco on November 23, 2013, 07:01:57 PM
Agree on Barkley!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 07:04:04 PM
Oh ffs
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: wepull on November 23, 2013, 07:04:05 PM
Man this is shit
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 07:04:07 PM
Fuck off
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 07:04:18 PM
fucking useless. again.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blueToffee on November 23, 2013, 07:04:28 PM
Ugh. Should've had that.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 23, 2013, 07:05:17 PM
Howards fault. A 10 year old can set a wall. Tim Howard apparently fucking cant
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Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 07:05:17 PM
Oh well...loads of time, and they are still shit.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 07:05:24 PM
can't believe that's gone in.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 07:06:35 PM
They've barely threatened, then two set pieces. Some bend on the free kick though.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 07:06:58 PM
I said before that free kick, why is hioward so fucking far over on the other side.

FFS
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 07:07:05 PM
howard wouldn't have saved that :(
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: wepull on November 23, 2013, 07:07:26 PM
Lol.. look at Agger falling.. Fell like a kid there
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 07:07:27 PM
Fuck off ref, you fucking cunt.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 07:08:53 PM
another set piece, another goal?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 07:09:23 PM
oh look we can defend a set piece.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 07:09:28 PM
I hate playing these.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Evertonexile on November 23, 2013, 07:10:22 PM
If you ask me the wall wasn't all that bad, Piennarr should've closed in and joined in tightly instead of standing 2-3 feet outside of it.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 07:10:22 PM
2 absolute shite defences. this could be anything. 6-5 anyone?
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Post by: DannyR on November 23, 2013, 07:10:37 PM
Fucking dowd
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 23, 2013, 07:11:06 PM

I hate playing these.

So much this
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Nicco on November 23, 2013, 07:12:32 PM
I hate playing these.
Indeed...
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 07:14:10 PM
I hate them so fucking much. Just everything about their horrible, twattish faces.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 23, 2013, 07:16:04 PM
I hate playing these.

What drives me up the wall is that the Everton players are so up for this, showing brilliant effort.

But you cannot get a result with this sort of defending.  This is why the derby is BIZARRE.  It's absurd how badly the results come out for us; it makes no sense.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 07:16:40 PM
pathetic dive
Title: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 23, 2013, 07:16:52 PM
Dowd has set the precedent there. Let's see if he follows that up.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 07:16:58 PM
Unlucky Barkley with the dive. If you'd been wearing red, you'd have been given it.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Evertonexile on November 23, 2013, 07:17:54 PM
Barkley, ffs, please don't start with that shit. Too much talent to allow yourself to turn into a diving bastard. Cut it out.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 07:18:35 PM
what's so fucking annoying is that we're playing really well. fuck this score!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 07:19:00 PM
Suarez fucked.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 07:19:03 PM
Great tackle Mirallas.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 23, 2013, 07:19:11 PM
Straight red that
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 07:19:34 PM
about time someone did that to Suarez.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 07:19:45 PM
Should've been, but it won't be.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Evertonexile on November 23, 2013, 07:20:16 PM
Somebody smack that physio.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 07:20:17 PM
Fucking physio getting involved.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: wepull on November 23, 2013, 07:20:38 PM
I would ideally wouldn't like seeing that kind of tackles. But fuck me, this player deserves it.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 23, 2013, 07:20:50 PM
Suarez fucked.

Not watching atm.  Is he going off?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 07:20:54 PM
Shame we didn't fuck him before his goal.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Nicco on November 23, 2013, 07:20:59 PM
Speaking to everyone wearing red before making a decision....
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 07:21:00 PM
Horrible twats the lot of them.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 07:21:13 PM
Mirallas is very lucky to only get a yellow.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 07:21:14 PM
mirallas will now get an extra christmas card from me this year.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blueToffee on November 23, 2013, 07:21:16 PM
Why should it take so long to show a card?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 07:21:27 PM
Perfect Mirallas. Well played lad :)
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Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 07:21:31 PM
Should have been red
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 07:21:58 PM
You can see Gerrard the horrible twat, trying to have a sly word in Dowd's ear. Fuck off and die, Steeeeeviiiieeee.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Evertonexile on November 23, 2013, 07:22:07 PM
That was lucky.
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Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 23, 2013, 07:22:12 PM
He's lucky Dowd gave a yellow then. If he hadn't given anything the FA would have retroactively banned him for three games.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 07:23:10 PM
About time we did that to their players.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blueToffee on November 23, 2013, 07:24:29 PM
Lukaku has been poor so far.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 07:25:02 PM
lukaku's trying to be a bit too clever. keep it simple.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 07:25:07 PM
If Lukaku could find a blue shirt once in a while we could be on to something.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 23, 2013, 07:25:10 PM
Can someone bring back the real Lukaku please, the one which played last season for West Brom and us early season? This one is a bit poo.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Nicco on November 23, 2013, 07:25:11 PM
About time we did that to their players.
We have a few not to old challenges to repay....
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 07:26:13 PM
Lukaku has been poor so far.

Agree. His movement is poor, and he needs to protect the ball better for a man of his monstrous size.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Optimistic Blue on November 23, 2013, 07:26:18 PM
Liverpool can go fuck themselves If they're going to complain about mirallas not getting a red you are not allowed to take the high ground on anything if you have Luis Suarez in your team
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: wepull on November 23, 2013, 07:26:21 PM
Our defense has been good so far. Neither of the goals were defensive mistakes.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 07:28:08 PM
drop him, sylvain
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Post by: Nicco on November 23, 2013, 07:28:19 PM
Why is thhat not a yellow..? An elbow in the neck!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 07:28:29 PM
Our defense has been good so far. Neither of the goals were defensive mistakes.

Assume this is a joke.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Evertonexile on November 23, 2013, 07:28:34 PM
Fucking redshite commentators.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Danny on November 23, 2013, 07:28:50 PM
I just once want to beat Liverpool without some controversy, if we win now it'll all be about Mirallas ffs
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 23, 2013, 07:29:19 PM

Our defense has been good so far. Neither of the goals were defensive mistakes.

.....except the first one.

And the wall wasn't right for the free kick, so the second one too.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 23, 2013, 07:31:08 PM
I just once want to beat Liverpool without some controversy, if we win now it'll all be about Mirallas ffs

I know what you mean, but I think there will be more controversy to overshadow it in this game
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 07:31:57 PM
We've been much better than them....so I'm still encouraged that we'll come back.

PS I'm going to hunt Jim Beglin down and torture him over a prolonged period. Just as an aside.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 07:33:47 PM
We've been much better than them....so I'm still encouraged that we'll come back.

PS I'm going to hunt Jim Beglin down and torture him over a prolonged period. Just as an aside.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: wepull on November 23, 2013, 07:34:19 PM
.....except the first one.

And the wall wasn't right for the free kick, so the second one too.

I mean our back 4. And about both goals don't think it was back 4's mistake. 1st one was Lukaku's for sure and 2nd was Howard.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 23, 2013, 07:34:35 PM
Suarez is likes fucking 5 year old with the inconsistent limping.

Joke of a man.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 23, 2013, 07:34:54 PM
Did the tv show their "whacky" banner before kick off? 18 year birthday cake

Not that they care about us of course
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Amata on November 23, 2013, 07:35:47 PM
They are starting to win the 50-50's now.  Both teams have been even the only difference being that they have Suarez and we have Lukaku who's doing nothing at the minute.  His first touch and reaction rate have been shocking so far.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 07:36:04 PM
Barkley faded last 15 minutes.

After ten minutes of the second half is be tempted to bring on Deulofeu for Lukaku and put Mirallas through the middle.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blueToffee on November 23, 2013, 07:36:45 PM
Same old at the moment.

I hoped the goal would spur Mirallas on but he's been pretty anonymous again since then.

Lukaku just isn't in the game at the moment though which is probably our biggest issue.

Neither side is actually creating much.
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Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 07:37:11 PM
Lukaku isn't doing much, as a lone front man he needs to work a little harder, he isn't offering any threat at all up front.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: mikey_blue on November 23, 2013, 07:37:24 PM
We've been better than usual. Normally we come out already defeated.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Danny on November 23, 2013, 07:37:25 PM
I know what you mean, but I think there will be more controversy to overshadow it in this game

It's irrelevant mate you know what they're like, if Gerrard and Suarez break two of our players legs it'll all be "Yeah but if Mirallas was off at that point"
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 07:38:10 PM
I'm surprised how little we've gone down the right given that should really be their weakness, Coleman and Mirallas has been pretty quiet down that side. FLanagan's actually looked ok when he has to do anything, but we really should be exploiting him more.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 07:38:17 PM
Attacking the Gwladys second half aswell, COYB.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blueToffee on November 23, 2013, 07:39:36 PM
Barkley faded last 15 minutes.

After ten minutes of the second half is be tempted to bring on Deulofeu for Lukaku and put Mirallas through the middle.

Since he got the card he seemed to fade.
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Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 07:40:25 PM
Attacking the Gwladys second half aswell, COYB.

Exactly Cozzie, exactly. Let's hope this is the game where Mirallas should've been sent off, and then we storm back in the second half and grab the game. COYB.
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Post by: Simon Paul on November 23, 2013, 07:41:20 PM
"And now at half time please welcome local choir boy..." and that's time for a burst I think
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blueToffee on November 23, 2013, 07:42:17 PM
Have to say Dowd has got most of the decisions right. The one that was questionable was Mirallas, who you'd have to say was lucky to stay on.

Would be tempted to take Mirallas off. Any more loose tackles and he'll be off.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 23, 2013, 07:42:40 PM
It's irrelevant mate you know what they're like, if Gerrard and Suarez break two of our players legs it'll all be "Yeah but if Mirallas was off at that point"

Indeed you are right, Danny.

I have developed a thicker skin about it over the years, otherwise it can drive you mad!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bluestevie on November 23, 2013, 07:42:51 PM
Disappointed to be behind at HT, thought we played well in that first half. Mirallas is slightly fortunate not to see red, a weaker ref might have shown one, that said (to use a wrestling term) Suarez spent the rest of the half selling then not selling the knee. Both their goals were preventable, free kick especially as Pienaar split from the wall to leave the space.

If we can step it up second half and get Lukaku more involved, I can see us pull it back
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 07:42:57 PM
Lukaku looked lively and dangerous at the beginning, since Liverpool got the second, they've slowed the game down and got men behind the ball. No surprise to see him getting most of his touches with his back to goal or when he goes wide or drops deep.

Similar story with Barkley, as now the central area in front of their defence is more heavily covered, he has struggled to find the same space and time as he did earlier in the game.

Plenty of time left in this game yet, I'd hold off bringing Deulofeu just yet. Give Mirallas the early part of the second half to try and get some joy against Flanagan, then make the change after about 15 mins.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 23, 2013, 07:43:59 PM
Exactly Cozzie, exactly. Let's hope this is the game where Mirallas should've been sent off, and then we storm back in the second half and grab the game. COYB.

It would be nice.

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 07:44:16 PM
We'll still turn this round I think, 3-2 by the end.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Nicco on November 23, 2013, 07:45:19 PM
But the derby history tells us that Mirallas challenge is not a red card!

Just ask Steven Gerrard...
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: wepull on November 23, 2013, 07:45:57 PM
I'm surprised how little we've gone down the right given that should really be their weakness, Coleman and Mirallas has been pretty quiet down that side. FLanagan's actually looked ok when he has to do anything, but we really should be exploiting him more.

I think it's more because Mirallas is playing very central with Lukaku drifting wide or dropping to midfield. We are trying to compensate for Barkley to build the game up with putting Mirallas more up with Lukaku.

Should bring Deulofeu in and try to put pressure on their left side.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 23, 2013, 07:46:17 PM
Jim Beglin & the other cunt has me with the sound off lobbing steaming vocal turds at the screen for their goals & wondering when Lukaku is gonna show up. Made up someone finally stuck it to the rat. Gerrard leads with the elbow & his cycling buddy lets him off. Barkleys ace. Have to play down the right second half. Come on Everton!

That is all.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Amata on November 23, 2013, 07:47:38 PM
If it carries on this way i'd be taking Lukaku off for Deulofeu and putting Mirallas through the middle.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 23, 2013, 07:47:45 PM
If we keep 11 players on we'll win this
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 23, 2013, 07:49:07 PM
If we keep 11 players on we'll win this

Loving the positivity on here!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 07:49:45 PM
don't be too hasty with lukaku.

yes, he's been poor, but he can turn a game very quickly (he said hopefully).
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Nicco on November 23, 2013, 07:49:45 PM
Gerrards elbow possibly a yellow according to McBananman....
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 23, 2013, 07:52:08 PM
Lukaku is playing like a giant Jelavic here. No physical presence at all, scruffy touches, not much impact.

Hope he improves.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Amata on November 23, 2013, 07:53:28 PM
Too many long balls.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 23, 2013, 07:54:19 PM
That Gerrard starfish fall is fucking classic.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 07:54:24 PM
these (minus rat face) really are shite. we can deffo win this.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blueToffee on November 23, 2013, 07:54:28 PM
Yikes. Baines off. I wonder how serious that is?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 07:54:47 PM
What the fuck are they chatting about with Mirallas?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 07:54:49 PM
3-5-2?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 07:55:00 PM
Barry at left back surely not.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 07:55:05 PM
Deulofeu?

What?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 07:55:25 PM
Oh, Barry left back.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 07:55:29 PM
Interesting RM. Interesting.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: wepull on November 23, 2013, 07:57:06 PM
I just hope Martinez knows what he's doing there.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 23, 2013, 07:57:10 PM
Need more composure and incisiveness in final third.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 23, 2013, 07:57:14 PM
Interesting RM. Interesting.

He really is a change from the Moyes era!  Why not go for it I guess.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blueToffee on November 23, 2013, 07:57:26 PM
Deulofeu taking on the LB is good to see.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 07:57:37 PM
Sorta need Barrys infl;uence in the middle
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 23, 2013, 07:57:40 PM
What the fuck are they chatting about with Mirallas?

Absolutely shocking shout from them.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Nicco on November 23, 2013, 07:57:52 PM
Deulofeu?

What?
Well if you want to win games ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 07:57:57 PM
Fuck, thought that was it.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blueToffee on November 23, 2013, 07:58:04 PM
Oh Deulofeu!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 07:58:06 PM
fuck
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 23, 2013, 07:58:35 PM
Need more composure and incisiveness in final third.

Barcakidfail
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: wepull on November 23, 2013, 07:59:14 PM
Deulofeu should have scored there.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 07:59:18 PM
What a chance
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: jongre123 on November 23, 2013, 07:59:21 PM
His chance to prove something there and he blew it.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 23, 2013, 08:00:14 PM
Oh look RS player dives but doesn't get a yellow.

Nice consistency Dowd.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 08:01:41 PM
Our two kids making bad decisions at the moment. We need to calm down. There's ages to go, and we don't have to go all out yet, and concede a third.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 08:02:05 PM
Deulofeu putting us in danger there.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blueToffee on November 23, 2013, 08:02:37 PM
Looking better since the change, game is starting to open up though.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blueToffee on November 23, 2013, 08:03:57 PM
Wow. One for each side. Shocking miss.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 08:04:04 PM
Thank fuck Joe Allen is shite
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 08:04:08 PM
kinell. that could have been it.......
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 08:04:09 PM
Fuck me, that should be game over.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 08:04:11 PM
Right...let's make them pay for that.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Nicco on November 23, 2013, 08:04:42 PM
What happen there?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 08:05:08 PM
Deulofeu putting us in danger there.

he's looking like a waste of a sub at the mo :(
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 23, 2013, 08:06:02 PM
LOL, one of the worst misses I've ever seen.

We could go 7 hours without conceding and then present the rs 5 sitters in one match.

God I hate this.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Nicco on November 23, 2013, 08:06:05 PM
How can Mirallas be glad to not get a yellow when Gerrard didn't deserve a yellow for his elbow?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 23, 2013, 08:06:26 PM
This is poor going forward.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 08:06:40 PM
Delefeou can fuck off. Im sorry but he is only out to impress himself, does too much.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 08:07:04 PM
Thank god for Joe Allen
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 08:07:08 PM
he's looking like a waste of a sub at the mo :(

I know he missed the chance, but we look a lot more dangerous with the attacking options. As ever...decision making is the issue, but we only need to make the right one once and it's game on.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 08:07:13 PM
I get Naismith on for Mirallas before he gets sent off.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 08:08:04 PM
ffs
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: slothzen on November 23, 2013, 08:08:17 PM
Mignolet keeping them in
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Nicco on November 23, 2013, 08:08:29 PM
We need to score these chances...
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 08:10:01 PM
Come on, please FFS Everton
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 08:13:22 PM
What a fucking waste of a free kick.

Bad news, Allen's going off.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 08:13:30 PM
Waste of a freekick
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 08:14:24 PM
It always hurts to be losing the derby, but this one more than most. We've been so much the better team.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: slothzen on November 23, 2013, 08:14:43 PM
We're playing really well.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 08:16:05 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS S
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: slothzen on November 23, 2013, 08:16:10 PM
FUCKING DESERVED!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 08:16:12 PM
Superb play, dont get too excited yet boys.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 08:16:15 PM
YEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Nicco on November 23, 2013, 08:16:22 PM
It always hurts to be losing the derby, but this one more than most. We've been so much the better team.
12 attempts 3
6 On goal 2
2 score 2

GO FOR IT !!!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: wepull on November 23, 2013, 08:16:47 PM
Fucking get innnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: jongre123 on November 23, 2013, 08:17:11 PM
GET THE FUCK IN!!  get another, come on.  Better team throughout so lets do  them.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blueToffee on November 23, 2013, 08:17:55 PM
What a header from Distin there.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: slothzen on November 23, 2013, 08:18:42 PM
What a header from Distin there.

Really needed.  A head above everyone.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: slothzen on November 23, 2013, 08:20:25 PM
How is that a fucking foul against Mirallas??
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 08:20:27 PM
have we ever come back to win after being a goal down to these cunts?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 08:22:29 PM
What a waste from Lukaku, we had 4 on 2.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 08:22:40 PM
agggghhhhhhhhh the wrong fucking ball!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 08:22:50 PM
This game must have a winner now, better be us.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 08:22:54 PM
FUCK OFF LUKAKU!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 08:23:05 PM
Jesus christ
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 08:23:54 PM
I'm fucking shitting myself.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Nicco on November 23, 2013, 08:24:38 PM
There is something wrong with fundamental physics when we meet these.... Everything is bouncing their way!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 08:26:07 PM
oh for fucks sake !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 08:26:13 PM
We are banging them here.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 08:26:23 PM
I would bring someone on to cover at LB and get Barry back in the middle.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 08:26:39 PM
fuck yesssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: slothzen on November 23, 2013, 08:26:42 PM
AWWWW <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 08:26:48 PM
ARGHHAHAAHAHAHAHAH WP!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Nicco on November 23, 2013, 08:26:51 PM
He is useless but he SCORES!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: slothzen on November 23, 2013, 08:27:20 PM
Lol who had johnson on lukaku??
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 08:27:21 PM
Oh my fucking God.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 23, 2013, 08:27:23 PM
Get the fuck in.

Redemption!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: jongre123 on November 23, 2013, 08:27:31 PM
Thats a jolly old way to to do it, great header. Lets fucking put it to rest now, lets fucking get another.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 08:27:32 PM
thank fuck i called that!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: wepull on November 23, 2013, 08:27:33 PM
That was one hell of a header... fuckin get in.... COYB!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 08:27:46 PM
Get the fuck in, you sexy belgian bastard. One more please Romulu, kill this game.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 23, 2013, 08:28:26 PM
Oh my word, Please do this, boys
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 08:28:35 PM
I am in absolute tears here
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 08:28:45 PM
Now I'm really fucking shitting myself.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: irishtoffee on November 23, 2013, 08:29:21 PM
my head is wrecked. Trying to put the kid to sleep and its killing me not to be shouting here. On my hands and knees trying to restrain myself. Please dont fuck this up. aaaaaaggggggggghhhhh COME ON
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 23, 2013, 08:30:06 PM
First so-called 'negative' sub I can remember him making.

Hope it turns out positive!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 23, 2013, 08:30:41 PM
RM knew we were going to score. That's why he prepped john stones!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 08:31:28 PM
Well played Seamus.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 08:31:53 PM
Come on, get the ball to Lukaku for the hat-trick.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: slothzen on November 23, 2013, 08:32:17 PM
RM knew we were going to score. That's why he prepped john stones!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 08:33:10 PM
Come on boys. Please. Please boys.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: slothzen on November 23, 2013, 08:33:12 PM
I had a feeling it was coming
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: wepull on November 23, 2013, 08:33:12 PM
what the fuck
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Nicco on November 23, 2013, 08:33:18 PM
FFS!!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 08:33:22 PM
unfuckingbeievable :(
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 08:33:45 PM
3 fucking set plays, three fucking set plays fuck off.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 08:33:47 PM
Felt it was coming

3 set pieces
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 23, 2013, 08:35:02 PM
I feel ill
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 08:35:23 PM
Don't lose it
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 08:35:23 PM
We've lost our heads really. It hurts but we have.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 08:35:32 PM
Horrible fuckers, 3 easy set piece goals.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 08:35:34 PM
my missus is looking relieved. she wasn't liking the hormone driven smile on my face...............
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 08:35:48 PM
Please Lukaku, get us the 3 points here.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 08:37:06 PM
Really don't want them getting corners, after what's happened so far.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 08:37:56 PM
oh fuck. my heart......
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 08:38:04 PM
Jesus, this is a silly.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: dangermouse on November 23, 2013, 08:38:28 PM
Fuck off Leon Osman ;-)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 08:39:10 PM
oh ffs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 08:39:35 PM
Gerrard apologising for his forearm.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 08:39:38 PM
I'll take that
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 08:39:47 PM
great game, but why oh fucking why couldn't we hold on :(
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: wepull on November 23, 2013, 08:39:55 PM
Should have won there.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 23, 2013, 08:40:23 PM
great game, but why oh fucking why couldn't we hold on :(

It's the law
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 08:40:27 PM
We were so much better than them. Don't know who to blame for the goals. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Nicco on November 23, 2013, 08:40:39 PM
As usual... The fucking redshite get  a lot more out of the deby than the deserve!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Nicco on November 23, 2013, 08:41:18 PM
It's the law
Correct
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 23, 2013, 08:41:31 PM
Another two points dropped.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blob on November 23, 2013, 08:41:52 PM
We were so much better than them. Don't know who to blame for the goals. Any ideas?

the wall, for one. the rest will remain a blur......
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 08:41:58 PM
Lads we played brilliantly, enjoy the outstanding game you just witnessed. Times are changing under Martinez.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 08:41:58 PM
Think you can try and blame markers for their goals. But to be fair, Suarez's goal was a great shot and the other two were superb deliveries from the starfish and very difficult to defend.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: irishtoffee on November 23, 2013, 08:42:21 PM
don't know what to feel after that. Probably fair enough
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: slothzen on November 23, 2013, 08:42:52 PM
We played really well, and Barkley showed even more today.  It was more than I hoped for TBH.  Good game.  Lukaku awesome as usual but it's bittersweet knowing we could never be able to keep hold of him at this point.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Major Clanger on November 23, 2013, 08:42:53 PM
Cracking game, imagine if we could defend set-pieces.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 23, 2013, 08:43:15 PM
Classic Derby. Lukaku Martinez. I love Everton. Liverpool are still shite.


 :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 23, 2013, 08:43:51 PM
As usual... The fucking redshite get  a lot more out of the deby than the deserve!

They weren't that great except for in one category.  Set pieces.

I am so glad it's over.  Took the kids hi-chair after the Sturrige goal and smashed it up against the fence outside, broken.  Missus very angry with me :(
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 23, 2013, 08:43:54 PM
Not sure what to feel. I'm absolutely devastated but was thinking we were guna get a hiding after 5 mins. Unusual but I think I'm gutted.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 08:43:58 PM
I'm knackered after that. Great game of football for the neutral, nerve shredding for the fans. Probably a fair result in the end, but still a bit gutted we couldn't get hang on though. They really would be lost without Suarez and Sturridge.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 08:45:14 PM
To be honest I was expecting them to score every set piece.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Major Clanger on November 23, 2013, 08:45:37 PM
To be fair, I would've taken a point before the game. My only regret is that Mirallas didn't shatter that cunt's kneecap into pieces.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 23, 2013, 08:45:54 PM
Drained.

I know people may have a go at deulofeu, and yeah he should look up more, but he was having a real go at them and we aren't blessed with many players on the bench who can go past opponents. He has a lot to learn, but he played ok.

Just wished he and Lukaku had put away one more of the 6 odd big chances they had.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Thom on November 23, 2013, 08:46:11 PM
Fuck me, what a match. I knew it would be an open game, but not as much as that!

Gutted though as we should have won that. Lukaku and Deulofeu had those two glorious chances, but I suppose it would have been game over if Allen had slid home at 1-2. Barkley was superb today I thought too. Very mature performance for his first derby. MOTM for me.

Right, match report coming up in 10-15 minutes once I've calmed down!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 23, 2013, 08:46:27 PM
Lads we played brilliantly, enjoy the outstanding game you just witnessed. Times are changing under Martinez.

Martinez should get tremendous credit.  We played well, and his 2nd half changes did the business.

We didn't win because, yet again, certain rs players save up their two very best performances of the year for the derbies.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 08:47:51 PM
I see what people are saying, because it was topsy turvy, but I don't think a draw was remotely a fair result.

So many gilt edged chances for us in the 2nd half. Could've easily won that 4-2.

Proud of the boys, but still hurting a bit because we were better than them. We just lost our heads a bit near the end. The FK Distin gave away for their equaliser was terrible.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 23, 2013, 08:48:34 PM
I see what people are saying, because it was topsy turvy, but I don't think a draw was remotely a fair result.

So many gilt edged chances for us in the 2nd half. Could've easily won that 4-2.

Proud of the boys, but still hurting a bit because we were better than them. We just lost our heads a bit near the end. The FK Distin gave away for their equaliser was terrible.

Ugh, just remembered how that occurred.  It was terrible wasn't it.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 08:48:55 PM
Maybe the media will take notice now.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 23, 2013, 08:49:16 PM
Everton striker Romelu Lukaku: "That is the best experience I've ever had in club football. It's a pity we didn't win but hopefully we will next time."
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 23, 2013, 08:50:00 PM
Fantastic game! What can you say?

We had the games outstanding player in Barkley, their keeper did well enough, ours cold have done better with the wall(although it was a great free kick). Martinez was very positive when Baines went off, Barca boy needs more composure, as does Lukaku
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 23, 2013, 08:51:13 PM
Great match. Lukaku showed up in the end & Delofau & Barkley gave it loads. Did we miss Baines?
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Nicco on November 23, 2013, 08:51:14 PM
Drained.

I know people may have a go at deulofeu, and yeah he should look up more, but he was having a real go at them and we aren't blessed with many players on the bench who can go past opponents. He has a lot to learn, but he played ok.

Just wished he and Lukaku had put away one more of the 6 odd big chances they had.
Great summary

Both about how I feel, and how I see the game
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 23, 2013, 08:51:49 PM
Didn't notice gerrard moved ball forward 5 metres before taking free kick.

Wondered why Howard was going mental at the linesman.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 23, 2013, 08:52:20 PM
Hope Baines is OK.

Still, if he's injured it would scupper a move, what with DM's stringent medicals!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Sprooly on November 23, 2013, 08:52:51 PM
i am genuinely sick to my stomach that we couldn't win that...

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 23, 2013, 08:53:00 PM
Didn't notice gerrard moved ball forward 5 metres before taking free kick.

Wondered why Howard was going mental at the linesman.

Beglin thought that was funny.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 08:53:11 PM
Don't expect much from the next match...

Stoke H  >:(
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 23, 2013, 08:53:31 PM
Fantastic game! What can you say?

We had the games outstanding player in Barkley, their keeper did well enough, ours cold have done better with the wall(although it was a great free kick). Martinez was very positive when Baines went off, Barca boy needs more composure, as does Lukaku

Well said. Barkley was awesome. So composed. Martinez did great, although if I am being hyper critical I would've slotted Barry back in the middle after we took the lead. Deulofeu to start more for me. His decision making will get better with more game time, but he terrifies oppositions and I was really pleased with how he kept going at them, given that Flanagan dominated him just after he came on.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 23, 2013, 08:53:57 PM
Beglin thought that was funny.

He's always been a prick
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 23, 2013, 08:54:48 PM
Feel robbed
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: hill135 on November 23, 2013, 08:55:30 PM
It's a real kick in the cunt to draw after coming from behind twice to be leading the game. But there were loads of positives from the performance today:

Barkley repaid the faith showed in him by RM in his first derby. Great performance from him.
Deulofeu looked good and made their defence panic. Looks to be a useful option.
Lukaku back to scoring ways after looking out of sorts the last few games. Looked like an Everton player when he scored the 3rd.
And we created a hatfull of chances, with Mignolet making 5 or 6 great saves. Thought we defended well in open play too (let's not mention the set pieces though).

Onwards and upwards.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on November 23, 2013, 08:56:44 PM
feels like a defeat, right now
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 08:57:25 PM
Barkley failed to pick up Sturridge
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 23, 2013, 08:57:28 PM
It's a real kick in the cunt to draw after coming from behind twice to be leading the game. But there were loads of positives from the performance today:

Barkley repaid the faith showed in him by RM in his first derby. Great performance from him.
Deulofeu looked good and made their defence panic. Looks to be a useful option.
Lukaku back to scoring ways after looking out of sorts the last few games. Looked like an Everton player when he scored the 3rd.
And we created a hatfull of chances, with Mignolet making 5 or 6 great saves. Thought we defended well in open play too (let's not mention the set pieces though).

Onwards and upwards.


Good summary
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bluestevie on November 23, 2013, 08:58:26 PM
What a fucking derby that was, absolutely nerve shredding from start to finish. Thought we had the better of the game but Gerrard's set plays were deadly and Mignolet's saves from Lukaku and Deulofeu in reality kept them in it. I just hope the game will be the focus of the post match reaction and not the sending off that wasn't. Still unbeaten at home in 2013 (league) with only 4 home games left of this year to play, all winnable.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blueToffee on November 23, 2013, 09:00:15 PM
It was silly to give that free kick away at the end. Especially as they always looked like they could score from set pieces.

Both sides had some decent chances second half to score. They probably just shaded the misses from good opportunities category...so I guess from that perspective it was a decent result.

Still when you get ahead so late on...hard not to feel disappointed. Would have been good to put a marker down that we can win these games with Martinez. Still I guess we showed good spirit to come back twice from being behind, should not forget that.

Hope Baines is not seriously injured. I thought we looked far more threatening though after he came off as we had to change shape. I think this was an eye opener to Martinez about how we can change games in the second half. Last couple of draws we changed personnel but not the shape. Dropping Barkley back and losing one of the holding midfielders really made a difference. The chances started to flow from there. Barkley still could make decisive passes but we then had an extra option up front in Deulofeu to pass to.

Shame Deulofeu missed his one on one, but I thought overall we were more dangerous with him in the mix.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 09:00:47 PM
Even though Delefeou frustrated me, its nice to see Baines go off and see an attacking player come on, Martinez goes for games, Moyes never and that in itself is exciting.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: toffee_scot on November 23, 2013, 09:01:16 PM
I only managed to catch the last 25 minutes of the game on the TV when we were still 2-1 down. Certainly an excellent game from a neutral's perspective and while I do feel slightly disappointed we couldn't win the game, it seemed the game was wide open especially at the end so a draw is a fair result. Of course we had some golden opportunities to score even more but I guess there is a reason why Liverpool paid £10m or so for their goalkeeper.

At least Mirallas finally managed to score and Lukaku was a lot more effective than in our last couple of games. I think Martinez got the tactics right but I'm not sure about the personnel for the last 2 subsitutions - I think Naismith rather than Osman should have come on for Pienaar and it was a bit of a gamble putting Stones on instead of the more experienced Heitinga. We would have probably defended better with those two players on.

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blueToffee on November 23, 2013, 09:02:46 PM
Barkley failed to pick up Sturridge

Was wondering if it should have been him tracking Coutinho for the first too.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 09:03:32 PM
Rodgers playing the "if Suarez made that tackle" card. Well he'd have got away with it like always.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 09:03:59 PM
Was wondering if it should have been him tracking Coutinho for the first too.

Looked more like Lukaku to me
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 09:04:02 PM
What a fucking derby that was, absolutely nerve shredding from start to finish. Thought we had the better of the game but Gerrard's set plays were deadly and Mignolet's saves from Lukaku and Deulofeu in reality kept them in it. I just hope the game will be the focus of the post match reaction and not the sending off that wasn't. Still unbeaten at home in 2013 (league) with only 4 home games left of this year to play, all winnable.

We will lose to stoke now you said that haha
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 23, 2013, 09:04:13 PM
MOTD presenter and former Everton striker Gary Lineker
Everton 3-3 Liverpool
"If the Merseyside derby is last on the running order of MOTD tonight, it will be one hell of a programme."
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 09:04:30 PM
I can't put up a poll for some reason.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 23, 2013, 09:04:51 PM
Rodgers playing the "if Suarez made that tackle" card. Well he'd have got away with it like always.

Reminds me of his bookings in last season's derby..
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Major Clanger on November 23, 2013, 09:05:28 PM
Even though Delefeou frustrated me, its nice to see Baines go off and see an attacking player come on, Martinez goes for games, Moyes never and that in itself is exciting.

Although unfortunately the result was exactly the same.

Deulofeu is not up for games like this mentally yet. He'll be better for this experience though and maybe next time he'll show a bit of composure.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 09:07:03 PM
Haha go ead Austin Healy!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 23, 2013, 09:07:29 PM
I only managed to catch the last 25 minutes of the game on the TV when we were still 2-1 down. Certainly an excellent game from a neutral's perspective and while I do feel slightly disappointed we couldn't win the game, it seemed the game was wide open especially at the end so a draw is a fair result. Of course we had some golden opportunities to score even more but I guess there is a reason why Liverpool paid £10m or so for their goalkeeper.

At least Mirallas finally managed to score and Lukaku was a lot more effective than in our last couple of games. I think Martinez got the tactics right but I'm not sure about the personnel for the last 2 subsitutions - I think Naismith rather than Osman should have come on for Pienaar and it was a bit of a gamble putting Stones on instead of the more experienced Heitinga. We would have probably defended better with those two players on.



When we scored the third I though RM would cancel or change the Stones sub. Deffo Naismith instead of Osman for me as well.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sirblue57 on November 23, 2013, 09:08:11 PM
Haha go ead Austin Healy!

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Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 23, 2013, 09:08:20 PM
Although unfortunately the result was exactly the same.

Deulofeu is not up for games like this mentally yet. He'll be better for this experience though and maybe next time he'll show a bit of composure.

He also brought on a defender for an attacking player when time was nearly up and we where in front


let's not talk about that now though
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blueToffee on November 23, 2013, 09:08:42 PM
Even though Delefeou frustrated me, its nice to see Baines go off and see an attacking player come on, Martinez goes for games, Moyes never and that in itself is exciting.

Let's not bring Moyes into this. That statement is utterly untrue though, unless you're suggesting we never won a game after falling behind under Moyes.

This is about Martinez now, let's leave it there.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 09:08:47 PM
Although unfortunately the result was exactly the same.

Deulofeu is not up for games like this mentally yet. He'll be better for this experience though and maybe next time he'll show a bit of composure.

It seemed that way today.

While he is no doubt an exciting prospect, he gave the ball away far to many times when he came on for a game of this magnitude.

But what does fill me with confidence is Martinez' willingness to change the game in an attacking sense, and as you could see it very nearly worked.

I have no doubt in my mind if Moyes was still in charge we would have bottled it.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sirblue57 on November 23, 2013, 09:08:52 PM
best derby since the 4-4 for me.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 23, 2013, 09:09:46 PM
Rodgers playing the "if Suarez made that tackle" card. Well he'd have got away with it like always.

My God, what a farcical anus that git is.

I know we will always be hyper sensitive to whatever their managers say, but they really do employ some absolute whoppers.

It's probably their arrogant ethos that infects most that walk in there.

How he can say that after Suarez got away with those disgraceful challenges on Mirallas and Distin last season is beyond me.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Cozzie on November 23, 2013, 09:09:46 PM
?

He just started ripping into a fellow rugby player and Liverpool fan when they switched to the rugby then. Was wearing his Everton scarf giving it the beans, was pretty funny.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blueToffee on November 23, 2013, 09:09:59 PM
I can't put up a poll for some reason.

There are pills you can take for that I believe.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: hill135 on November 23, 2013, 09:10:42 PM
He also brought on a defender for an attacking player when time was nearly up and we where in front

He changed from two cbs to three to provide a spare man against their dangerous partnership. An eminently sensible tactical change and qualitatively different from Moyes' "let's throw on another defensive body and hang on for dear life" routine I would say
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Verm on November 23, 2013, 09:10:48 PM
Great game for the neutral, gutted to lose the lead so late but probably a fair result.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 23, 2013, 09:12:26 PM
I can't put up a poll for some reason.

Use some cement, Shogs
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 23, 2013, 09:14:43 PM
My God, what a farcical anus that git is.

I know we will always be hyper sensitive to whatever their managers say, but they really do employ some absolute whoppers.

It's probably their arrogant ethos that infects most that walk in there.

How he can say that after Suarez got away with those disgraceful challenges on Mirallas and Distin last season is beyond me.

"We again showed our resilience and ability to fight back. This is a difficult place to come and they haven't lost at Goodison Park this year.

"We should have gone 3-1 and that would have killed the game. After that we couldn't keep ball. I'm disappointed with defending from the corner (from which Romelu Lukaku scored) and we have to be stronger. All-in-all a wonderful game and when you come to your rivals it is important not to lose." FA
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 23, 2013, 09:15:43 PM
He changed from two cbs to three to provide a spare man against their dangerous partnership. An eminently sensible tactical change and qualitatively different from Moyes' "let's throw on another defensive body and hang on for dear life" routine I would say

Are you actually trying to say there's a difference?  lolol
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Major Clanger on November 23, 2013, 09:15:59 PM
He also brought on a defender for an attacking player when time was nearly up and we where in front


let's not talk about that now though

I actually think that was the right decision at that point: they'd just switched to two strikers up top, so a 3 man back line was a sensible choice.

But yeah, it somewhat dents the "Roberto always goes for it" myth. I don't care though, because I think always going for it is a stupid thing anyway.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 23, 2013, 09:16:13 PM
Overall, the referee controlled emotions of players well and allowed game to flow." RM

Agreed.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blueToffee on November 23, 2013, 09:16:54 PM
It seemed that way today.

While he is no doubt an exciting prospect, he gave the ball away far to many times when he came on for a game of this magnitude.

But what does fill me with confidence is Martinez' willingness to change the game in an attacking sense, and as you could see it very nearly worked.

I have no doubt in my mind if Moyes was still in charge we would have bottled it.

I appreciated the opportunity he took when it happened, but the biggest switch was an enforced one with Baines going off injured. Would we have changed shape otherwise?

I hope we look at the option to lose one of the defensive midfielders more often now when we're looking to break teams down. This is the sort of thing that could've helped us in our last few draws where we struggled to create chances. We looked much more likely to score with Barkley pulling the strings from deep and another option up top.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: toffee_scot on November 23, 2013, 09:17:09 PM
When we scored the third I though RM would cancel or change the Stones sub. Deffo Naismith instead of Osman for me as well.

I think it was always Martinez's intention to put on a 3rd central defender as he was reacting to Liverpool's substitution which saw Sturridge coming on for them and with Suarez - Sturridge - Moses - Coutinho all on the field at the same time then I think Martinez was right to bring on a defender and Liverpool often looked very vulnerable on the counter attack so it wasn't like we were sacrificing our attacking intent.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 23, 2013, 09:17:31 PM
MANAGER REACTION - Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Everton manager Roberto Martinez: "It's really disappointing we didn't get three points. I'm disappointed to concede from three set plays.

"They had good opportunities from open play but we had more. To concede late on from a dead ball situation doesn't reward my team for how they played in second half."

On Mirallas tackle on Gerrard: "You are going to expect that nature of challenges because of what it means and the nature of the atmosphere created around the players. I didn't think it was a red card. He was a bit late. Steven Gerrard went in with elbow (on Gareth Barry). Overall, the referee controlled emotions of players well and allowed game to flow."

Glad he brought that up.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 09:19:53 PM
Shame Gerard couldn't put one of his several good chances, but after going 2-1 down I'm happy with the result.

Great entertainment and Lukaku is wonderful.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 23, 2013, 09:20:06 PM
"We again showed our resilience and ability to fight back. This is a difficult place to come and they haven't lost at Goodison Park this year.

"We should have gone 3-1 and that would have killed the game. After that we couldn't keep ball. I'm disappointed with defending from the corner (from which Romelu Lukaku scored) and we have to be stronger. All-in-all a wonderful game and when you come to your rivals it is important not to lose." FA

Indeed. He redeemed himself there.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 23, 2013, 09:20:16 PM
I actually think that was the right decision at that point: they'd just switched to two strikers up top, so a 3 man back line was a sensible choice.

But yeah, it somewhat dents the "Roberto always goes for it" myth. I don't care though, because I think always going for it is a stupid thing anyway.
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My point as well, but you know as well as I do how different that can be interpreted.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 23, 2013, 09:27:43 PM
I think it was always Martinez's intention to put on a 3rd central defender as he was reacting to Liverpool's substitution which saw Sturridge coming on for them and with Suarez - Sturridge - Moses - Coutinho all on the field at the same time then I think Martinez was right to bring on a defender and Liverpool often looked very vulnerable on the counter attack so it wasn't like we were sacrificing our attacking intent.

Well spotted sir. Your tactical nouse is far superior to mine. In my defence I was busy keeping the dog at bay at the time as he loses it when we go 3-2 up against the shite with minutes to go.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: wepull on November 23, 2013, 09:31:22 PM
We played some lovely through balls today. Should have scored at least 2 from them itself.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: School of Science on November 23, 2013, 09:36:18 PM
To be honest I was expecting them to score every set piece.

Absolutely correct the only time that I was worried apart from when Sewerez had the ball.
So many positives Barkley anyone who dwells on the fact that he gets caught in possesion now and then needs to wake up, what this lad can do and does do is incredible, he is 19 years of age revell in it. Lukaku a monster if there is any way to keep him we must do it. Best derby I've ever seen i'm 53 and seen a few, make no mistake we were the better team, their mom was their goalkeeper, no doubt. Their goals came from free-kicks ans a corner, like Wimbledon. McCarthy was excellent Duelofeu is now ready to start.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2013, 09:37:05 PM
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Kick Racism Out of Football
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Verm on November 23, 2013, 09:39:21 PM
He was lucky to not see red for that.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: ncblue on November 23, 2013, 09:40:20 PM
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Kick Racism Out of Football

That's too funny! 
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 23, 2013, 09:41:25 PM
His leg bled a bit.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 23, 2013, 09:42:59 PM
He was lucky to not see red for that.

I agree, if that physio hadn't had been so blatant in demanding it instead if ignoring the dying rat he'd have been off I think
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 23, 2013, 09:43:49 PM
It's not nice to see that.

Even though it's on he who often dishes it out, it doesn't make it right.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Amata on November 23, 2013, 09:45:26 PM
Brilliant Blarg!

Bad challenge that probably should have been red, a bit of retribution by Mirallas? He's waited a year for that.

Superb game, it had everything. Liverpool should have been out of sight when Allen missed a sitter but we had 3 one v one's and should have put them away. Deulofeu started off a bit nervy but grew into the game and was a real threat. Lukaku was really frustrating at times, especially when he made the wrong choice on the counter and also played a horrific ball to a red shirt. But his goals made up for it and hopefully he will kick on now.

Defending still looks very suspect but on the plus side we looked very good going forward and created a lot of chances.  A special shout to Barkely, who aside from holding on to the ball too long once or twice was superb.  His control, change of speed and direction were excellent and the 2 through balls to Lukaku and esp Deulofeu were superb.  Hopefully this will have given him a lot of confidence.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 23, 2013, 09:45:54 PM
It's not nice to see that.

Even though it's on he who often dishes it out, it doesn't make it right.

A dish best served cold though
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 23, 2013, 09:46:07 PM
I love it, he's the one player in the world who deserves a major injury.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Major Clanger on November 23, 2013, 09:47:24 PM
I wasn't happy with that Mirallas tackle. It was nowhere near brutal enough. In fact, it instantly cured Suarez's limp so they owe us one for that tackle.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 23, 2013, 09:48:17 PM
I love it, he's the one player in the world who deserves a major injury.

Their fans have incredibly short memories.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: keiko on November 23, 2013, 09:48:39 PM
Barkley is my man of the match.

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 23, 2013, 09:49:30 PM
Their fans have incredibly short memories.

yep, and in January they'll hate him when he jibs them

I hope he goes to United.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 23, 2013, 09:51:05 PM
A dish best served cold though

Oh, I totally agree, but it just means we lose the moral high ground.

Mind you, when has that ever done us any good!
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 23, 2013, 09:54:57 PM
Oh, I totally agree, but it just means we lose the moral high ground.

Mind you, when has that ever done us any good!

I think Gerrard reset it to deuce after his challenge on his "best mate in football" :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Everton Mint on November 23, 2013, 10:05:23 PM
Definately the better team and deserved to win.

Considering their goals were all set pieces, 3 goals flattered them and we could have had 5 from open play.

Poor defending cost us but we would still have won but for their keeper stopping all our one-on-one's.


MATCH STATS

Everton - Lpool

Possession
51% - 49%

Shots
18 - 11

On target
12 - 5
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Danny on November 23, 2013, 10:05:27 PM
yep, and in January they'll hate him when he jibs them

I hope he goes to United.

I'd fucking love that, imagine their fury and pulling up old Moyes quotes about Suarez to prove why he shouldn't go.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: hill135 on November 23, 2013, 10:06:05 PM
Are you actually trying to say there's a difference?  lolol

Of course there is a difference. 3 at the back is an established system employed to counter two strikers: it is based on the principle that you have two man markers, and a spare man. It also allows you to maintain 5 in midfield (against four usually), and thus control of the game. Martinez switched to this system because it is one he has used extensively and the circumstances called for it: they brought on another dangerous striker and we could adapt to that without losing 5 in the middle.

On the other hand Moyes would bring on another CB often for our lone striker, with the team losing any shape and tactical coherence as a result. He would also do it late on whenever the game was against us, regardless of the quality or quantity of the strikers at the disposal of the opposition, Fulham and Norwich spring to mind.

Context is everything. One is tactical modification to a system with a long tradition which is designed to offer an advantage against two striker systems and the other is based on the fallacious logic that "more defenders equals less goals against", which is just as wrong-headed as "more strikers equals more goals scored". There is a clear difference.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 23, 2013, 10:10:22 PM
Feel robbed

Me too.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 23, 2013, 10:11:01 PM
best derby since the 4-4 for me.

Feel the same. Although I felt elated after the 4-4 (being behind 4 times but coming back again, and again) whereas I feel like we've lost today, not just because they scored the late equaliser, but because of the massive number of one on ones we had that we never converted, and the very poor goals we conceded.

Could have been worese of course with their late chances and especially the Allen miss.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Everton Mint on November 23, 2013, 10:14:32 PM
Pic of the day:

(http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Romelu+Lukaku+Everton+v+Liverpool+Premier+MVcLgrSfBy1x.jpg)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 23, 2013, 10:19:56 PM
Of course there is a difference. 3 at the back is an established system employed to counter two strikers: it is based on the principle that you have two man markers, and a spare man. It also allows you to maintain 5 in midfield (against four usually), and thus control of the game. Martinez switched to this system because it is one he has used extensively and the circumstances called for it: they brought on another dangerous striker and we could adapt to that without losing 5 in the middle.

On the other hand Moyes would bring on another CB often for our lone striker, with the team losing any shape and tactical coherence as a result. He would also do it late on whenever the game was against us, regardless of the quality or quantity of the strikers at the disposal of the opposition, Fulham and Norwich spring to mind.

Context is everything. One is tactical modification to a system with a long tradition which is designed to offer an advantage against two striker systems and the other is based on the fallacious logic that "more defenders equals less goals against", which is just as wrong-headed as "more strikers equals more goals scored". There is a clear difference.

Ones "a long tradition designed to offer advantage against two strikers" and the others "more defends equal less goals"

Don't take this to personal but are you pissed, you've talked yourself into a u turn.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Everton Mint on November 23, 2013, 10:20:00 PM
Or

(http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Everton+v+Liverpool+Premier+League+Ri5B500jSYhx.jpg)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 10:23:51 PM
It's funny hearing Liverpool fans talking about set pieces, when that's how they scored their 3 goals. 2 of ours were direct from a set piece and the other was from play shortly after a set piece, so not a good day in defence for set pieces all round.

They are complaining bitterly about Mirallas' late challenge, Brendan has mentioned to each media outlet about if Luis Suarez had made the challenge, when not too many derbies ago, ratty intentionally injured Distin and Mirallas without action being taken.

Personally I don't think Mirallas' challenge was a red, but it could have been given that way. Several players will get sent off for less, but far more get away with worse.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 23, 2013, 10:25:20 PM
To be fair, the kopites I know are being sound.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Everton Mint on November 23, 2013, 10:28:12 PM
So Baines has to go off injured thanks to a challenge but Sewerez carried on all game, so which is the worse challenge ...
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: pommy on November 23, 2013, 10:30:12 PM
That's too funny! 
that was a clear red but saurez deserves all shit that comes his way.....disgusting effort of a human and hope the dirty animal snaps both his legs and never plays again....harsh, who gives a fuck
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 23, 2013, 10:31:27 PM
So Baines has to go off injured thanks to a challenge but Sewerez carried on all game, so which is the worse challenge ...

What a strange logic.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: hill135 on November 23, 2013, 10:34:16 PM
Ones "a long tradition designed to offer advantage against two strikers" and the others "more defends equal less goals"

Don't take this to personal but are you pissed, you've talked yourself into a u turn.

No I haven't mate. Firstly it advantages you against two strikers because a) you have 3 on 2 but also b) you have 5 in midfield against 4. It's not simply a case of it's suitable because you have more defenders than the opposition has strikers, that's only part of it. Secondly, as I said, context is everything. They have two strikers, two very good strikers and they had sacrificed a midfielder (their most defensively diligent midfielder) to ensure this. In those circumstances it makes sense to try and account for the front players without sacrificing midfield control and attacking threat. 3-5-2 allows you to do this. Moyes would switch to 5-5-0, often against second-rate strikers upfront on their own simply because he did not know how to instil in the players the ability to kill the game with possession.

Can you not see the difference between Martinez seeing Sturridge come on and Lucas go off while we're in a winning position and switching to 3-5-2, and Moyes seeing Kei Camara come on for Norwich while we're in a winning position and switching to 5-5-0? Ultimately 3-5-2 is a real system which numerous teams have had success with, the same cannot be said for 5-5-0, which as far as I know is not employed with any great success by any team at a high level. To focus solely on the fact that an additional CB has come while ignoring the contextual information is silly.

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Bally on November 23, 2013, 10:35:43 PM
Or
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 23, 2013, 10:37:17 PM
For Blargins.

(http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/3712/hs1a.jpg)
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 23, 2013, 10:38:54 PM
RAWK making out that they were robbed.

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 23, 2013, 10:40:50 PM
their fans were celebrating like they'd won the league at the end today, no way did the ones who went think they were robbed
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ridge on November 23, 2013, 10:43:31 PM
RAWK making out that they were robbed.

Yeah, that was where I got the indignation from...
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 23, 2013, 10:46:14 PM
No I haven't mate. Firstly it advantages you against two strikers because a) you have 3 on 2 but also b) you have 5 in midfield against 4. It's not simply a case of it's suitable because you have more defenders than the opposition has strikers, that's only part of it. Secondly, as I said, context is everything. They have two strikers, two very good strikers and they had sacrificed a midfielder (their most defensively diligent midfielder) to ensure this. In those circumstances it makes sense to try and account for the front players without sacrificing midfield control and attacking threat. 3-5-2 allows you to do this. Moyes would switch to 5-5-0, often against second-rate strikers upfront on their own simply because he did not know how to instil in the players the ability to kill the game with possession.

Can you not see the difference between Martinez seeing Sturridge come on and Lucas go off while we're in a winning position and switching to 3-5-2, and Moyes seeing Kei Camara come on for Norwich while we're in a winning position and switching to 5-5-0? Ultimately 3-5-2 is a real system which numerous teams have had success with, the same cannot be said for 5-5-0, which as far as I know is not employed with any great success by any team at a high level. To focus solely on the fact that an additional CB has come while ignoring the contextual information is silly.

3 centre backs on the pitch designed to stop the opposition score is exactly the same as having 3 centre backs on the pitch to stop the opposition scoring. It's as simple as that

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Tinga on November 23, 2013, 10:48:27 PM
We should have been home and dry with the chances we had today, McCarthy looked very nervous, Deulofeu needs to get on the weights also, he is a bit frustrating at times. I feel robbed but after Suarez scored I'd have bitten your hand off for a draw. Lukaku scoring is a HUGE plus as he's looked very mediocore lately so hopefully those goals will push him on a bit.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 23, 2013, 10:51:43 PM
Michael Owen gave Lukaku MOTM. Fucking hell
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 23, 2013, 10:52:34 PM
'Fuck off Dowd and fuck off Mirallis you bitter fucking shithouse.'


Blaming Allen for the loss as well. I say loss as that's how most are taking it over there the poor fuckers. Right, off for a bevvy and a giggle at the full kit brigade. NSNO lads & lasses.......

Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: david smallman on November 23, 2013, 10:53:18 PM
Good performance today need to work on set pieces but i would have taken that at half time.
Special mention to super kev for sorting suarez.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: david smallman on November 23, 2013, 10:55:33 PM
'Fuck off Dowd and fuck off Mirallis you bitter fucking shithouse.'


Blaming Allen for the loss as well. I say loss as that's how most are taking it over there the poor fuckers. Right, off for a bevvy and a giggle at the full kit brigade. NSNO lads & lasses.......


Ha ha they have spent all that money and are still not the best team on merseyside.
Mind you allen is shite
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 23, 2013, 10:57:03 PM
The way we played against them today without fear, without our heads going down and without resorting to belting the ball forward in desperation gave me so much hope for the future under Martinez. We played like a team who thought they were better than the opposition. It actually feels like we won today for me.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: TheRam on November 23, 2013, 10:59:03 PM
Pienaar was boss today.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 23, 2013, 10:59:36 PM
I would give Mirallas MotM just for going in hard against Suarez like that.  Happiest I was all day (apart from immediately when Lukaku's second goal went in).

Hate that I missed the match thread live, had to pick kids up late last night, so I set dvr knowing I would have trouble waking up.  Getting old sucks.
Title: Re: Everton v Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 23, 2013, 11:05:53 PM
Nice to see us being dirty bastards.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 23, 2013, 11:09:23 PM
Nice to see us being dirty bastards.

I agree, but only today and only against that total piece of shit.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Simon Paul on November 23, 2013, 11:09:29 PM
Nice to see us being dirty bastards.

I've always thought you liked a dirty man really
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 23, 2013, 11:11:46 PM
Yay, I get to vote Mirallas just to make my point!

Totally agree Barkley is worthy, though.  Or RM, for having the stones to bring Kid Barca on for Baines.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 23, 2013, 11:12:55 PM
Barkley all the way. Not perfect, but hes getting there!
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: goodtouchforabigman on November 23, 2013, 11:22:14 PM
The way we played against them today without fear, without our heads going down and without resorting to belting the ball forward in desperation gave me so much hope for the future under Martinez. We played like a team who thought they were better than the opposition. It actually feels like we won today for me.
Totally agree, I loved the really positive attitude today, we went at them as if they were just any other team, the 1st Derby in a good while when at no time did we look scared of them.

The only little moan I had was when he brought Stones on, thought Martinez dropped a bit of a bollock there. It just seemed to confuse things at the back for me and sends out the wrong message.

Having said that it's easy to be wise after the event, made up with the performance, gutted we didn't score at least another 3 goals.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: goodtouchforabigman on November 23, 2013, 11:24:20 PM
Just voted Barkley, class.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 23, 2013, 11:27:38 PM
I've always thought you liked a dirty man really

Hahha yes especially if he is being mean to the redshites :D
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: charlatan on November 23, 2013, 11:33:49 PM
Gutted with a draw, enough chances today to win 3 derbys, but by the same token so did they.  Good stuff to see Barkley growing by the game, Mccarthy was all over the pitch, Pienaar was back to his old self, Mirallas had his best game in donkeys (even ignoring his challenge on the rat faced racist).  Thought Lukaku was awful til he scored, but the header for his 2nd was awesome, right out the Dunc school of headers.

Think today has highlighted the need for a keeper that is competant on crosses, and also time for Distin to be phased out IMO.  Too many brain farts in big games.  What the fuck he was doing challenging at head height on the touchline in the last minute, when there was no challenge needed is beyond me.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: School of Science on November 24, 2013, 12:21:54 AM
Barkley mom for me, how many times have I seen Gerrard control the game against us, the only time I heard his name today was when they had a free kick, or when there was a stray elbow. The king is dead long live the new king. Honourable mention for McCarthy as well, the midfield dynamo weve needed for years.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 24, 2013, 12:27:30 AM
Distin will be phased out but no need to do that yet he's still a very good player.  As for a competent keeper, Howard has been in his best form in years.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on November 24, 2013, 12:51:17 AM
Best derby since the F.A cup 4-4 in the 90's and all things considered you have to say we just about shaded it but the game should have been dead and buried after Joe Allen's fuck up.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 24, 2013, 01:10:09 AM
Absolutely superb derby. Back to the old ways. You can argue that we could of won it, you can have argued you guys should have won it.

Superb!

Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 24, 2013, 01:13:28 AM
Great game today. Barkley mom for me filled me with hope for the future
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 24, 2013, 01:14:28 AM
Absolutely superb derby. Back to the old ways. You can argue that we could of won it, you can have argued you guys should have won it.

Superb!




Has the gremlin left your body, BWS?
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 24, 2013, 01:25:12 AM
Has the gremlin left your body, BWS?

It has been exorcised! ;-)
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: sirblue57 on November 24, 2013, 01:32:13 AM
he poked it out himself using a courgette.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 24, 2013, 01:33:01 AM
It has been exorcised! ;-)

Glad to hear it
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 24, 2013, 01:33:54 AM
It was a marrow game that's for sure.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 24, 2013, 01:39:21 AM
It was a marrow game that's for sure.

Bravo, that man  :clap:
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Confucius on November 24, 2013, 02:10:14 AM
What a game. Should no better than to runs around a sports bar screaming after Lukaku scored.

Mirallis is a lucky boy and I doubt we get back into it if he got sent off. We played so well and missed sitter after sitter as did they. Should of finished 10-8 by my estimations.

Suarez is a genius of a footballer and to have the energy he did his World Cup exploits shows some brilliant fitness.

Quote of the day comes from the bbc live text when they say that Suarez looked like he was attacked by a small vampire after Mirallis tackle
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: cantoffee on November 24, 2013, 02:14:53 AM
Decent first match to attend :) felt a bit robbed and our defending fron set pieces was abysmal but not sure I could ask for much more for my first match at Goodison Park.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: GLewis on November 24, 2013, 02:33:46 AM
Decent first match to attend :) felt a bit robbed and our defending fron set pieces was abysmal but not sure I could ask for much more for my first match at Goodison Park.

Aside from the last minute equaliser it would have pretty much been an un-matched experience.

Not often we come from behind against them - no idea when we last won 3-2 either!
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: blueski on November 24, 2013, 02:48:28 AM
+1 for Martinez

When Baines went out do you think moyes would have brought deulofeu on or heitinga?
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 24, 2013, 02:58:30 AM
Just watched it then, I Sky plussed it as I have been in Ludlow all day. They've never heard of 3G, 4G or Stevie fuckin' G in that town, could not get a signal at all to follow the game. Ross Barkley is completely fearless, Mirallas could be finding his form again, Lukaku was a pain in the arse to them. Gerrard is finished and Joe Allen is shite.

Off to watch the boxing now, picked up 6 pheasants for a tenner at the Christmas market today so I'm gonna reef me way through  a couple of the fuckers with some real ales.

COYBB,

Tally ho!
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: hill135 on November 24, 2013, 03:09:29 AM
What a cunt Brendan is. He didn't have anything to say about Suarez stamp on Mirallas' achilles last season. Dalglish level hypocrisy. Someone needs to tell him that he didn't invent possession football and that he sounds like a snake-oil selling PR guru. Prick
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: hill135 on November 24, 2013, 03:23:12 AM
. It's as simple as that


Oh thanks for clarifying that for me. I now know that when bringing on a central defender it is irrelevant which player is sacrificed and that the impact upon team shape and their ability to execute the game plan is non-existent. 3-5-2, 5-5-0, 3-0-7, what's the difference? They all have three centre-backs! It is just that simple!

I think we should agree to disagree because you haven't acknowledged my point that discussion about how many centre backs there are makes no sense without reference to the positions of the seven other outfield players. We're talking past each other.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: MmmblueBernard on November 24, 2013, 03:40:16 AM
Decent first match to attend :) felt a bit robbed and our defending fron set pieces was abysmal but not sure I could ask for much more for my first match at Goodison Park.

Picked a great debut game pal. Hope you enjoyed the overall experience despite the slightly disappointing result.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 24, 2013, 04:07:49 AM
Aside from the last minute equaliser it would have pretty much been an un-matched experience.

Not often we come from behind against them - no idea when we last won 3-2 either!

Not sure about 3-2, but the last time we came from behind to win was 1992, Mo Johnson and Peter Beardsley. Seems like only yesterday.  :snigger:
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 24, 2013, 04:29:23 AM
Kilbane on MOTD
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 24, 2013, 04:31:55 AM
Liverpool are fucking shit. That's my pissed up derby day comment...I'll see you all tomorrow.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 24, 2013, 04:34:13 AM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/23/article-2511933-199863AF00000578-761_634x350.jpg (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/23/article-2511933-199863AF00000578-761_634x350.jpg)

Anyways, Retro Shirt at the bar announces that 50 years ago this week You'll Never Walk Alone was number one. Mate says and you soft gets are still singing it. RS asks why not as Gerry Marsden wrote it for them. Cue silence & bemused glances & he's advised Gerry lifted it from South Pacific. He's not having it & hits us with a low blow: Z Cars was shite.

Rum chasers all round. We'll twat them in January.

Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 24, 2013, 04:37:21 AM
How we didnt win I dunno. Night ya'll
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 24, 2013, 04:42:17 AM
Liverpool are fucking shit. That's my pissed up derby day comment...I'll see you all tomorrow.

We live life on the edge Eddie.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: chang on November 24, 2013, 04:48:37 AM
Suarez free kick taken 10 foot further forward than the foul? .. matters not I guess.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Shogun on November 24, 2013, 05:09:52 AM
That Mirallas tackle gets better and better every time.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: The Good Citizen on November 24, 2013, 06:05:21 AM
If we'd scored a 4th in those last few seconds, I honestly had nothing left, think I'd just have fell off my chair. Don't think I've ever gone so nuts after a goal as our third, was knackered at the whistle!

Just been on a come down all day, just felt gutted with the draw. Finally thought I'd visit this thread and it cheered me up a bit in fairness. You'll excuse me a drunken 'I fucking love Everton', really do. Off to sleep this off now. Goodnight blues.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Verm on November 24, 2013, 06:08:58 AM
Oh, I totally agree, but it just means we lose the moral high ground.

Mind you, when has that ever done us any good!

There is no 'moral high ground', neither set of fans ever accepts they perhaps got a bit of luck.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 24, 2013, 06:12:02 AM
Suarez free kick taken 10 foot further forward than the foul? .. matters not I guess.

Nah mate, the ref blew for full-time about 9 hours ago.  :P
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: dangermouse on November 24, 2013, 06:20:42 AM
All the reds I know cant stop banging on about hoq fantastic the game was...

Lets be honest they were shittin themselves. .. and now they are over the moon...

Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Major Clanger on November 24, 2013, 06:23:02 AM
Brenda's got his knickers in a twist saying that if the rat-faced racist cannibal cunt had done that challenge, he'd have been sent off.

Maybe someone should show him a video of his two crippling challenges that put Mirallas out for 3 months last time around...and stayed on the pitch after them.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 24, 2013, 06:32:38 AM
All the reds I know cant stop banging on about hoq fantastic the game was...

Lets be honest they were shittin themselves. .. and now they are over the moon...



Celebrating like they'd beaten United or something at the final whistle  :whistle:
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 24, 2013, 06:34:20 AM
There is no 'moral high ground', neither set of fans ever accepts they perhaps got a bit of luck.

I accept we got lucky there, Verm; And it makes a nice bloody change, don't you think?

Liverpool know they were largely outplayed today, they will cling on to the sending off that wasn't.

It also fits in perfectly with their attempts to sanitise Suarez' reputation, which started with his appearance with Stevie G and Lucas on Children In Need; He really is the victim now etc.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 24, 2013, 06:37:03 AM
Reds saying what a fantastic game it was = massive relief because they know they were completely dominated and that we were creating gilt edged chances at will.

It's the sort of patronising, fake-sincerity shit they come out with.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 24, 2013, 06:49:10 AM
Leave them to it. I wish we could play like that every game, the City one seems such a waste now, considering it's our only loss. We can only get stronger.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: goodtouchforabigman on November 24, 2013, 07:30:36 AM
Decent first match to attend :) felt a bit robbed and our defending fron set pieces was abysmal but not sure I could ask for much more for my first match at Goodison Park.
Fuck me mate, "a decent first match to attend..."? It was a fucking amazing game. Id hate to think what you would think about at 2-1 home win against Stoke. Not having a go, at all, just saying that was nearly the best game I've seen at Goodison for a long time; if we'd have scored right at the end...





Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Confucius on November 24, 2013, 07:42:33 AM
BS boys. Reds are saying it was a great match because it was. They had as many chances to win it as we did.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: wepull on November 24, 2013, 12:41:18 PM
BS boys. Reds are saying it was a great match because it was. They had as many chances to win it as we did.

Nah they didn't. Apart from three goals which they scored, they had one glorious chance which Allen missed, one which Suarez headed to Tim Howard and one was Suarez's shot which was  a pretty tame effort to say the least. Whereas we had around 3-4 one on one's and then there were many which were saved by Mignolet. We clearly were the better team and had much more chances.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 24, 2013, 02:34:09 PM
BS boys. Reds are saying it was a great match because it was. They had as many chances to win it as we did.

Well said.

Look at it as a neutral and it was a superb derby. I can see why Liverpool fans would be chuffed and Everton fans a little gutted though, last minute equalisers will have that effect.

Both teams had their chances. Although you can argue Everton possibly shaded it.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Bluedylan on November 24, 2013, 02:46:05 PM
Well said.

Look at it as a neutral and it was a superb derby. I can see why Liverpool fans would be chuffed and Everton fans a little gutted though, last minute equalisers will have that effect.

Both teams had their chances. Although you can argue Everton possibly shaded it.

Point taken, and no doubt it was a great game for the neutral. You also could've gone 3-1, and that might well have been game over. Having said that, I think Everton were comfortably the better side (and I'm not prone to supporting my team blindly and assuming everything we do is great, and we should win every game etc etc).

I think your midfield looked completely overrun. The number of times we had oceans of space running at your back 3 or 4 should be a little alarming for you, moving forward. I think the majority of Everton fans on here aren't just reacting with disappointment because of the late goal, but actually because unlike some previous derbies, we felt that played the better football and we kept our heads and used the ball intelligently and more effectively, even when we were behind.



Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Bally on November 24, 2013, 02:47:06 PM
Well said.

Look at it as a neutral and it was a superb derby. I can see why Liverpool fans would be chuffed and Everton fans a little gutted though, last minute equalisers will have that effect.

Both teams had their chances. Although you can argue Everton possibly shaded it.

Erm
Shots

Everton 17 - 8 Liverpool

Shots on target
Everton12 - 5 Liverpool

Erm just shaded it. .. no thats wrong. Your keeper kept you in it
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 24, 2013, 03:18:51 PM
Erm
Shots

Everton 17 - 8 Liverpool

Shots on target
Everton12 - 5 Liverpool

Erm just shaded it. .. no thats wrong. Your keeper kept you in it

I was talking about real goal scoring chances, not just how many shots on target they had.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: School of Science on November 24, 2013, 03:27:18 PM
I was talking about real goal scoring chances, not just how many shots on target they had.

Be honest though fella who was your liverpool mom ? Mine like Ballys was your goalie by a country mile.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 24, 2013, 03:31:32 PM
Had to be mignolet for their mom.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 24, 2013, 04:18:53 PM
Oh thanks for clarifying that for me. I now know that when bringing on a central defender it is irrelevant which player is sacrificed and that the impact upon team shape and their ability to execute the game plan is non-existent. 3-5-2, 5-5-0, 3-0-7, what's the difference? They all have three centre-backs! It is just that simple!

I think we should agree to disagree because you haven't acknowledged my point that discussion about how many centre backs there are makes no sense without reference to the positions of the seven other outfield players. We're talking past each other.

Throwing all these permutations out is irrelevant. Your ignoring my point obviously.

You stated that Martinez bring a centre defender on to cope with the Liverpool threat is different to Moyes bring a defender on to cope with the opposition threat. And that's just plane and simple nonsense.

You've conceded that he brought Stones on in an attempt to nullify the two Liverpool forwards, if we look back at what Moyes did in similar situations we can assume in all likelihood he would also have probably made the same change. Putting a extra defender on to prevent the opposition scoring, is putting an extra defender on to prevent the opposition scoring. It doesn't matter if you Pep Guardiola or Tony Pulis, the objective is the same.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Bally on November 24, 2013, 04:22:25 PM
I was talking about real goal scoring chances, not just how many shots on target they had.

What like the 3 ir 4  mingolet saved and kept  you in the game or the joe allen abomination of a miss and the suarez header
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: cantoffee on November 24, 2013, 04:28:18 PM
Fuck me mate, "a decent first match to attend..."? It was a fucking amazing game. Id hate to think what you would think about at 2-1 home win against Stoke. Not having a go, at all, just saying that was nearly the best game I've seen at Goodison for a long time; if we'd have scored right at the end...

The smiley was to indicate that I know the match was better than decent. Chill.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Polledreng on November 24, 2013, 04:29:27 PM
I was talking about real goal scoring chances, not just how many shots on target they had.
So are Bally - that why the danish pundits had Mignolet as a clear MOM.  That must have hurt as they before the game was talking about how brilliant Liverpool has been this year - and no one exept former Ipswich man Thomas Gaardsoe was able to praise Everton. That changed after the match - but next time Liverpool or Everton are on the telly it will be back to normal... Everton punching about there weight and Liverpool just one man short of become the best team in the world. Weird as we have been the best team on Merseyside for long
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Polledreng on November 24, 2013, 04:32:26 PM
The smiley was to indicate that I know the match was better than decent. Chill.
God I envy you. My first at GP was a derby match aswell..... Bakayoko's debut and it ended 0-0 with 90 minutes of dull dull football. Not a goalscoring chance for 90 minutes. This year I've been to GP for the homegame against WBA and away at Crystal Palace.....   Guess the score......   Going to the Emirates in december - could you please please join ?
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: cantoffee on November 24, 2013, 04:38:23 PM
God I envy you. My first at GP was a derby match aswell..... Bakayoko's debut and it ended 0-0 with 90 minutes of dull dull football. Not a goalscoring change for 90 minutes. This year I've been to GP for the homegame against WBA and away at Crystal Palace.....   Guess the score......   Going to the Emirates in december - could you please please join ?

Buy my plane ticket and I'll be there ;)

Even my bird had a great time and she is not much of a sports fan! She said she'd buy a season ticket if we lived in Liverpool.

Also had a great view from the top balcony. When I am done travelling I'll see if I can get some pictures up.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Polledreng on November 24, 2013, 04:40:20 PM
Buy my plane ticket and I'll be there ;)

Even my bird had a great time and she is not much of a sports fan! She said she'd buy a season ticket if we lived in Liverpool.

Also had a great view from the top balcony. When I am done travelling I'll see if I can get some pictures up.
I'll see what I can do  ;).. I like your bird already  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 24, 2013, 04:50:23 PM
I'll see what I can do  ;).. I like your bird already  :thumbsup:

Uh oh, blatant grooming alert... nod
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 24, 2013, 05:12:27 PM
Be honest though fella who was your liverpool mom ? Mine like Ballys was your goalie by a country mile.

Yeah, I would have to say Mignolet.

People talk about us being a two man team, but as I said before he's certainly another reason why we're sitting in 2nd spot.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: BigWoodenSpoon on November 24, 2013, 05:18:19 PM
What like the 3 ir 4  mingolet saved and kept  you in the game or the joe allen abomination of a miss and the suarez header

Yes, those are more in keeping with the efforts I was thinking of.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 24, 2013, 05:23:12 PM
Rodgers said: "Mirallas should have been sent off."
The 40-year-old added: "It would have been interesting had Luis made that challenge. He's just caught him right on the back of his knee and that can end your career. It took Luis 10 or 15 minutes to recover and it was disappointing."


Can't believe he's only forty.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 24, 2013, 05:29:15 PM
Do you think we'll bring out a DVD?
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Gash on November 24, 2013, 05:29:20 PM
Rodgers said: "Mirallas should have been sent off."
The 40-year-old added: "It would have been interesting had Luis made that challenge. He's just caught him right on the back of his knee and that can end your career. It took Luis 10 or 15 minutes to recover and it was disappointing."


Can't believe he's only forty.

I don't know why he had to compare it to Suarez? He's never been sent off for any of his bad challenges. And Suarez was limping before the tackle anyway. He's right that Mirallas should have been off, other than that he's being a bit dramatic.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 24, 2013, 05:41:47 PM
I don't know why he had to compare it to Suarez? He's never been sent off for any of his bad challenges. And Suarez was limping before the tackle anyway. He's right that Mirallas should have been off, other than that he's being a bit dramatic.

Yeah he should have gone, I think the Liverpool physio mouthing off actually saved him.

The ending his career bit though is ridiculous, your far more likely to be seriously injured by having studs raked down your achilles than you are getting kicked in the leg while your in mid air.

I think he's deflecting away attention from another average Liverpool performance.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Eddie on November 24, 2013, 06:21:41 PM
God I envy you. My first at GP was a derby match aswell..... Bakayoko's debut and it ended 0-0 with 90 minutes of dull dull football. Not a goalscoring chance for 90 minutes. This year I've been to GP for the homegame against WBA and away at Crystal Palace.....   Guess the score......   Going to the Emirates in december - could you please please join ?

If I worked for everton I'd ban you!
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Danny on November 24, 2013, 06:40:07 PM
Yeah, I would have to say Mignolet.

People talk about us being a two man team, but as I said before he's certainly another reason why we're sitting in 2nd spot.

He's fucking boss, I thought he was a good replacement at the time for Reina but obviously Liverpool fans were very loyal to him so it was brilliant for Mignolet to have such an impressive debut to win the fans over straight away.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: 74Blue on November 24, 2013, 07:11:34 PM
Brenda's got his knickers in a twist saying that if the rat-faced racist cannibal cunt had done that challenge, he'd have been sent off.

Maybe someone should show him a video of his two crippling challenges that put Mirallas out for 3 months last time around...and stayed on the pitch after them.
Brenda's chatting out of his arse as per usual. Despite his huge catalogue of antics, I don't believe that Freddie Mercury's love child has ever been sent off in the premier league has he? So by what logic dis Brenda come to that conclusion? As usual, he's just being a bad, bad bellend.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: marky v on November 24, 2013, 07:16:43 PM
Rodgers said: "Mirallas should have been sent off."
The 40-year-old added: "It would have been interesting had Luis made that challenge. He's just caught him right on the back of his knee and that can end your career. It took Luis 10 or 15 minutes to recover and it was disappointing."

Why is the back of the knee so bad as his leg could bend, the front I'd say fair enough comment, must have been a blessing for them to have that as a talking point because if we talk about the game we were far the better side


Yeah he should have gone, I think the Liverpool physio mouthing off actually saved him.

The ending his career bit though is ridiculous, your far more likely to be seriously injured by having studs raked down your achilles than you are getting kicked in the leg while your in mid air.

I think he's deflecting away attention from another average Liverpool performance.


Can't believe he's only forty.

The physio massively helped and also made the likes of jags and Barry doing the typical Everton thing of being the nice guys, we stopped being the dogs of war a long time ago but sometimes and especially in the derby you've got to be aggressive and he caused a reaction from the players that was needed
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: goodtouchforabigman on November 24, 2013, 07:19:49 PM
The smiley was to indicate that I know the match was better than decent. Chill.
I wasn't having a go there me old mucka, just thought you were very hard to please as I missed the the significance of the smiley face.

You jammy bastard, my first ever league game was the 5 - 0 hammering by Liverpool in the early 80's.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: matty1878 on November 24, 2013, 07:26:51 PM
anyone watch motd extra? - about the " tackle" on suarez.... alan green is a red tho hes going to moan more!
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 24, 2013, 07:47:01 PM
I wasn't having a go there me old mucka, just thought you were very hard to please as I missed the the significance of the smiley face.

You jammy bastard, my first ever league game was the 5 - 0 hammering by Liverpool in the early 80's.

Character forming ha bigman!
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 24, 2013, 07:52:30 PM
Had it been another ref yesterday then Mirallas had gone. Dowd was more interested in letting the game run as much as poss. He wasn't to be seen for the first 20/25 minutes, quite refreshing for a ref that. Makes a change from the usual derbies were we are talking about controversial decisions (other than that Mirallas challenge)

Great game.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 24, 2013, 08:09:17 PM
If I worked for everton I'd ban you!

Dunno. Think I'd take a 0-0 at Arsenal right now.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: The Analog Kid on November 24, 2013, 08:17:24 PM
Dunno if anyone has mentioned this in the past 70-odd pages but, what was McCarthy doing so far in our net for Coutinho's goal?
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: sam of the south on November 24, 2013, 08:31:31 PM
Dunno if anyone has mentioned this in the past 70-odd pages but, what was McCarthy doing so far in our net for Coutinho's goal?

Yeah it was odd, maybe he lost his bearings.

That said, it was pretty much the only mistake he made the whole game.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: blargins on November 24, 2013, 08:31:32 PM
Falling over I think.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Heisenberg on November 24, 2013, 08:35:15 PM
Its hard when the shit set piece teams come and park the bus. They done well to grind out a point
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 24, 2013, 10:15:37 PM
Anyone got a link to the full match? VCRs on the fritz again......





Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 24, 2013, 10:29:20 PM
Still gutted with the result but my god i fucking love Everton.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: matty1878 on November 24, 2013, 10:42:11 PM
half time i said to my mates " id take a point". the second half i thought we upped the tempo and liverpool coudnt handle us. joe allen could of made it harder for us at 1-3 but when he missed it which i dont know how we were still in the game. if liverpool are meant to be a top 4 team then what the hell are we? anyway martinez is winning over me more and more with our football long may it continue.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 24, 2013, 11:02:54 PM
half time i said to my mates " id take a point". the second half i thought we upped the tempo and liverpool coudnt handle us. joe allen could of made it harder for us at 1-3 but when he missed it which i dont know how we were still in the game. if liverpool are meant to be a top 4 team then what the hell are we? anyway martinez is winning over me more and more with our football long may it continue.

Fuckin hell Matty your bordering on being positive!
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Blue Lagoon on November 24, 2013, 11:10:58 PM

half time i said to my mates " id take a point". the second half i thought we upped the tempo and liverpool coudnt handle us. joe allen could of made it harder for us at 1-3 but when he missed it which i dont know how we were still in the game. if liverpool are meant to be a top 4 team then what the hell are we? anyway martinez is winning over me more and more with our football long may it continue.
At 2-2 I'd have gladly taken the draw. At 3-3 I was gutted we only got the draw .
Good game - unlucky not to win but at the same time they could have punished us a couple of times.
On reflection Mirallas was lucky to not see red - that said Rat face went from crying to growing a new leg real quick.
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Silas on November 24, 2013, 11:23:08 PM
I just like a post of Mattys. This thread is officially fucked up!
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Ross on November 24, 2013, 11:26:52 PM
I just like a post of Mattys. This thread is officially fucked up!

Having trouble pushing the button



Oh fuck it, have one Matty  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: Major Clanger on November 25, 2013, 12:13:45 AM
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Title: Re: Everton 3-3 Liverpool
Post by: School of Science on November 25, 2013, 12:14:11 AM
At 2-2 I'd have gladly taken the draw. At 3-3 I was gutted we only got the draw .
Good game - unlucky not to win but at the same time they could have punished us a couple of times.
On reflection Mirallas was lucky to not see red - that said Rat face went from crying to growing a new leg real quick.

Ye good point Brenda saying that could have ended his career, didn't even end his game. I think thats one of the reasons Dowd ( best ref in the EPL) took so long making that decision, to ensure ratface wasn't milking it again. The boy who cried wolf, has at last come back to bite him on the arse.