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Title: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 27, 2013, 06:57:13 AM
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Everton FC v Southampton FC
Goodison Park
Sunday 29th December 13:30
Premier League match 19


Everton's last 5 domestic matches 2013/2014:


Manchester United 0-1 Everton (Oviedo)
Arsenal 1-1 Everton (Deulofeu)
Everton 4-1 Fulham (Osman, Coleman, Barry, Mirallas)
Swansea 1-2 Everton  (Coleman, Barkley)
Everton 0-1 Sunderland

Southampton's last 5 domestic matches 2013/2014:

Southampton 2-3 Aston Villa (Rodriguez, Osvaldo)
Southampton 1-1 Manchester City  (Osvaldo)
Newcastle 1-1 Southampton (Rodriguez)
Southampton 2-3 Tottenham (Lallana, Lambert)
Cardiff 0-3 Southampton (Rodriguez x2, Lambert)


Everton

Everton finally lost a league game at Goodison Park on boxing day as Sunderland took home the spoils in a 1-0 win to become the first side to take away 3 points in 2013. It was the 5th time Everton have failed to score a goal in a match this season. It was also the 5th time that Everton have conceded a penalty this season which is the highest in the premier league, Everton are still to be rewarded with one themselves. Tim Howard is the first Everton player to receive a red card this season.

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Since the transfer window closed in early September, only Manchester City and Arsenal have managed to gain more points in the premier league. Everton sit third in the table as they moved above both Liverpool and Chelsea managing 31 points from a possible 45 dropping 2 points to Arsenal, Crystal Palace, Liverpool and Tottenham along with defeats to Manchester City and Sunderland.

Possible Line Ups

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Southampton

Southampton ended an unwanted run of 8 games without victory on Boxing Day as they quickly demolished Cardiff 3-0 in South Wales with all 3 goals coming in the opening 27 minutes. Southampton's strong start to the season was hindered with a tough run of games against Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester City, Newcastle and Tottenham within 6 fixtures which included a slip up against Aston Villa at home. The victory over Cardiff was their first clean sheet in 8 games and only Arsenal, Norwich and West Ham have stopped Southampton from scoring this season.

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Regardless of the result, Southampton will go into the new year in 9th place which will be the second highest position they have occupied in the premier league at that stage. The only year that was topped was in 2002-03 which saw Southampton finish in 8th place. It is also the second highest points total that Southampton have achieved at that stage of the season.

Stats and Injuries/Suspensions

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Everton will definitely be without the  trio of Darron Gibson, Arouna Kone and Gerard Deulofeu who are all nursing longer term injuries whilst they could also be without Kevin Mirallas who appeared to be suffering with illness against Sunderland and was subbed off. Tim Howard will be suspended after his red card whilst Gareth Barry picked up his 5th yellow card of the season. Leighton Baines could return from injury.

Artur Boruc, Victor Wanyama and Guly Do Prado are all sidelined until January for the Saints whilst Dani Osvaldo and Nathaniel Clyne are set for late fitness tests. Morgan Schneiderlin picked up his fifth booking and will miss the match through suspendion.

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Southampton 2-2 Everton. 2005. bent. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4CV30RGTEo#ws)
Title: Everton v Southampton
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 27, 2013, 04:30:33 PM
Hope we smash these and stay in touch with the top 4.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 27, 2013, 04:51:19 PM
Gonna be a tight game, time to see what this Everton side is really about
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blueToffee on December 27, 2013, 06:33:11 PM
About as pivotal a match as we've had all season.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Bluedylan on December 27, 2013, 06:41:01 PM
About as pivotal a match as we've had all season.

Yep biggest game of the season for me so far, having had our first proper letdown. If we can get back on the winning trail straight away, the Sunderland game will be just an annoying blip.

Gonna be really difficult I think.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 27, 2013, 06:42:04 PM
Yep biggest game of the season for me so far, having had our first proper letdown. If we can get back on the winning trail straight away, the Sunderland game will be just an annoying blip.

Gonna be really difficult I think.

It's pivotal in the sense that it will show the character of the squad. Can we bounce back and crack on.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: evertonjoe on December 27, 2013, 06:42:56 PM
We'll be knackered, they just eased to a win over Cardiff.

Southampton win.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 27, 2013, 06:45:55 PM
We'll be knackered, they just eased to a win over Cardiff.

Southampton win.

Not with Ross Barkley in the side mate.

I'd go with this...

Robles

Coleman Jags Distin Oviedo

McCarthy Osman

Mirallas Barkley Pienaar

Jelavic

Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Eddie on December 27, 2013, 07:06:05 PM
I think we'll beat these. Sunderland was a kick up the arse plus Goodison will be behind the team with twattenburg refereeing.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Dr. Sponge on December 27, 2013, 07:32:15 PM
I'd bring Baines back for this one if he's fit. Simply because his deliveries from wide areas are excellent, and Lukaku could benefit from it.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Eddie on December 27, 2013, 07:50:15 PM
I'd bring Baines back for this one if he's fit. Simply because his deliveries from wide areas are excellent, and Lukaku could benefit from it.

As well as Oviedo has played that's where he's lacking. Lukaku hasn't been given a decent chance to convert for about 5 games now.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: hill135 on December 27, 2013, 08:04:33 PM
This is a tough game. I'm not looking forward to it.

I agree with the bring back Baines shouts.

I don't think this is the game for Osman. Not having a go, but he is pedestrian and loses the ball more than an our other midfielders which players right in to Southampton's hands. However, with Barry out we might not have a choice. Put Barkley in one of the deeper roles so he can use his dribbling ability to beat their pressing
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: evertonjoe on December 27, 2013, 08:17:01 PM
Would anyone drop Mirallas given how shit he has been of late?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 27, 2013, 08:37:27 PM
Only for Deulofeu, who's injured obviously.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: evertonjoe on December 27, 2013, 08:38:14 PM
Why, not Naismith?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 27, 2013, 08:39:42 PM
He hasn't had enough game time from the bench to start a match for me.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sir Stealth on December 27, 2013, 08:40:52 PM
Would anyone drop Mirallas given how shit he has been of late?

I wouldn't be totally against starting neither of our Belgians
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 27, 2013, 08:42:58 PM
Yep biggest game of the season for me so far, having had our first proper letdown. If we can get back on the winning trail straight away, the Sunderland game will be just an annoying blip.

Gonna be really difficult I think.

I am not trying to be a pessimist, and I doubt Bluedylan is either.  Just saying that if we do rally and take all three points, we will have passed a very difficult test and showed loads of character.

Wish we had more practice time to try out a lineup that includes both Bainsey and Oviedo.  We need Baines' leadership, but we can't afford to lose Oviedo's rocket foot and attacking mentality (especially down a crucial midfielder).  I would still start 'em both, leave the exact formation to folks brighter than myself.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 27, 2013, 08:44:46 PM
If we dropped KM, think I would go with both Lukaku and Jela, rather than Naismith.  Think the latter is better coming off the bench (though in fairness, so is Jela).
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blob on December 27, 2013, 08:49:44 PM
We'll be knackered, they just eased to a win over Cardiff.

Southampton win.

this.

once it starts...
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: TheRam on December 27, 2013, 08:59:42 PM
I'd star Naismith, always a goal threat and will give us some much needed energy
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Lapeno on December 27, 2013, 09:43:27 PM
I'd star Naismith, always a goal threat and will give us some much needed energy

Naismith behind Lukaku and Barkley in a deeper role alongside McCarthy. Southampton's two centre mids would have a field day against someone the size of Osman. And lets be honest, if Osman is going to play, I think everyone would prefer him to be playing closer to the opposition penalty box rather than our own.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 27, 2013, 10:54:09 PM
If we dropped KM, think I would go with both Lukaku and Jela, rather than Naismith.  Think the latter is better coming off the bench (though in fairness, so is Jela).

And play who on the right? By that showing you'd be dropping Barkley too and playing him out of position.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 27, 2013, 10:55:36 PM

Not with Ross Barkley in the side mate.

I'd go with this...

Robles

Coleman Jags Distin Oviedo

McCarthy Osman

Mirallas Barkley Pienaar

Jelavic

<facepalm>

You were doing so well until you picked Jelavic..........
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: duncandisorderly on December 27, 2013, 11:21:02 PM
As others have said this is a massive game for us, probably a must-win in terms of getting back momentum and challenging for the top four.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: edbootle on December 28, 2013, 01:03:41 AM
Hibbert will start at right back and Coleman  moved forward to replace Mirralas.
Baines at left back moving Oviedo to midfield.
You heard it here. And only after four brandies. :cheers: :whistle:
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Yobo2008 on December 28, 2013, 01:10:23 AM
I think Naismith should come in for Osman....
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: bluegrant on December 28, 2013, 01:33:36 AM
Hibbert will start at right back and Coleman  moved forward to replace Mirralas.
Baines at left back moving Oviedo to midfield.
You heard it here. And only after four brandies. :cheers: :whistle:
the reason why were in top 5 is because hibbo has been playing lol
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on December 28, 2013, 01:49:45 AM
I think Naismith and Jelavic should both start against Southampton, drop Barkley back alongside McCarthey and drop Mirallas, although he could miss out through illness.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blueski on December 28, 2013, 01:56:59 AM
I think we are going to have to play a 5 man midfield against them or we'd really struggle with posession, I really doubt RM will go with 2 upfront.

For me, I'd play Osman but in the attacking role with Barkley in deep alongside McCarthy

Part of me would fancy seeing how we'd perform if we brought Baines in and dropped Mirallas and played Oviedo on the right side of midfield but I doubt that would happen
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: dekko on December 28, 2013, 03:00:23 AM
People thinking of dropping Lukaku? Jesus.
As mentioned, I'd replace Barry with Barkley, and maybe try Naismith behind Lukaku.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Bluedylan on December 28, 2013, 03:04:53 AM
People thinking of dropping Lukaku? Jesus.
As mentioned, I'd replace Barry with Barkley, and maybe try Naismith behind Lukaku.

I like that suggestion. I'd worry a bit about Ross overplaying it in deeper areas, and possibly making one or two bad decisions against their pressing style, but I'd still prefer somebody with some physicality there than Osman.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: mikey_blue on December 28, 2013, 03:50:24 AM
Barkley can play any position, the lads got it all. Stick Naismith behind Lukaku. Naismith has a great instinct for goals and if we reinstate Baines, I like his chances of latching onto one of his crosses.

Very tough game. I think Martinez's positive attitude will be vital to make sure the team spring back.

COYB!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Thornton_19 on December 28, 2013, 04:03:33 AM
I think we will have enough to beat Soton which ever 11 we put out. Thats not me underestimating Southampton, i just believe after that defeat we will get a big response from our team and we should win.
 

I think it will be close but we'll take it 3-1/4-2
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 28, 2013, 06:09:53 AM
Saw a stats before their match against Cardiff.

Southampton goalkeeper Gazzaniga has faced 9 shots on target this season and conceded 7 goals.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 28, 2013, 08:30:52 AM
Would anyone drop Mirallas given how shit he has been of late?

He's out with the shits.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: farnhamtoffee on December 28, 2013, 01:45:35 PM
He's out with the shits.

What hes out drinking with Gerrard and Suarez ??
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Confucius on December 28, 2013, 02:46:18 PM
This is a game for 3 at the back. Bring Stones or Alcaraz in for Barry, Barkley for Osman and Robles for Howard.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 28, 2013, 02:54:45 PM
I thought this was on TV?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: kewns23 on December 28, 2013, 02:58:24 PM
I thought it was on tv, however its seems both clubs agreed to move it to Sunday for reasons unknown ummm lol
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Eddie on December 28, 2013, 04:16:41 PM
MOB...

The games are officially coming all Darren Huckerby now – that’s right, ‘thick and fast’ – so once again we adopt the lazy-arse scattergun approach of talking about what’s going on, Toffee-wise, at the moment.

Systems are no substitute for intelligence

The horrendous snafuckup that blew the Sunderland game was more down to poor decision-making than the Roberto Martinez ‘method’. Granted, if you watched a lot of Wigan Athletic over the last few seasons you would be forgiven that horrific blunders at the back were an integral feature of the Spaniard’s philosophy, but the responsibility for ‘doing a Caldwell’ has to lie with the players.

After all, it’s not as if our goalies have never rolled the ball out before during the past century or so of football at Goodison.

That said, if you do it every time without fail it does become a bit predictable and maybe encourages the opposition to make that bit more effort to pressurise the outfield player receiving the ball. Again though, it’s down to the players to make the right decisions – it’s not enough to take unnecessary risks at the back and then simply shrug and say ‘the manager told me to do it’ when it all goes cigar shaped.

Incidentally, a lot of people have said that Tim Howard made a further error by bringing down the Sunderland player and getting sent off. In that split second though, his instinct will have been to stop a goal. He tried to make a save but Ki Sung-Yeung was a bit too quick for him. It’s easy with hindsight to suggest he should have allowed the Korean to walk the ball in, but could you imagine the scenes at Goodison if he had stood there and ushered him forward like a footman doing the ‘your carriage awaits’ sweep of the arm towards an open net?

We need to talk about Romelu

With 10 men you need a heroic performance from your centre-forward, unfortunately though ours is having a horrible time at the moment.

Romelu Lukaku looked like an utter phenomenon when he first arrived at Everton but in the last month he seems to have fallen apart. A key feature of Everton’s play has become brilliant moves culminating with Lukaku and Ross Barkley shaking their heads at each other and pointing at completely different areas of the pitch as the ball dribbles out for a goal kick,  even during the majestic team performances at Manchester United and Arsenal, .

We’ve said it before but the burly Belgian needs to get back to basics. He has to accept that he can’t always have 30 yards of pitch to run into with defenders bouncing off him like Jonah Lomu, and that 90% of being a centre-forward involves getting the better of the jiu-jitsu skirmishes with the centre-half and taking your lumps for the team. Drifting out to the wings and making applause-prompting loping jogs to hurry the keeper up are all well and good, if you want to be Marcus Bent, but Lukaku apparently wants to be the best striker in the world.

When Nikica Jelavic is coming on and showing you up by winning a simple free-kick you know you need to have a look at what you are doing.

When we played Arsenal and they started getting a bit of joy towards the end of the first half, it was because Olivier Giroud was standing strong on the edge of the box and the attacking midfielders were confident that they could fire a pass into his feet, make a run past him and he would hold the defender off and try and ‘turn the ball around the corner’ for them. Everton are crying out for a bit of that simple stuff at the moment, especially given how much possession they have just outside the opponents’ box.

There’s no lack of effort by Lukaku – if anything he’s trying too hard.

How will Martinez cope with his first hint of adversity?

Two games away from going the whole year unbeaten at home, facing a team bottom of the league who traditionally get prison-petted all over the place at Goodison – ka-blammo, 1-0 reverse.

Everton that.

As they say.

Apparently.

It’s not a crisis, or even a mini crisis. Hell, it doesn’t even merit the term ‘crisette’, but things have been running so smoothly this season that even one rather unlucky defeat at home feels like a bit of a blow.

Anyway, as a result of that game the new Blues’ boss now has some selection problems ahead of facing a more than decent Southampton team.

Joel Robles obviously comes straight in for Howard while presumably Leon Osman, after having a good long think about just what he did on Boxing Day, gets to try and redeem himself in midfield alongside Ross Barkley and James McCarthy.

Gareth Barry’s experience will certainly be missed against a wily sort of Saints team – the wide-waisted former England man was magnificent again organising the 10 man assault on Sunderland in the second half on Sunday. Given that he is almost certainly the slowest player in the Premier League he should be getting mugged off constantly, but his first touch, anywhere from the neck down, is so immaculate, and he shields the ball so effortlessly, that it is almost never a problem.

12 months ago you would never have imagined that we would all have a massive man crush on a player famous only for trailing in the wake of Mezut Ozil – can’t do the Umlaut – and that the form of Bryan Oviedo would have people weighing up whether a decent bid for Leighton Baines might be worth considering.

Something about Southampton

Their jowly young-Homer-Simpson-haired manager Mauricio Pochettino has essentially become the poster boy for sacking popular managers who appear to be doing ok. And for people who like to pass shite they read in the paper and hear on Match of the Day off as their own deep insights into the game – for instance that clueless Portsmouth supporter on the Football Ramble when he does his ‘but seriously now, it’s just not good enough’ voice – it’s de rigeur that you mention Saints’ ‘high pressing game’ whenever you mention them this season.

So we just have.

They have some decent players and are ‘coming off the back of’ a good win at Cardiff City. Incidentally, can you wait to see who takes over there? Or even better, listen to their first press conference when they are asked about working for Vincent Tan?

‘I know what you’re saying like, but, you know, we’ve all got to put a loaf on the table, lad’.

And that’s where this thing just sort of peters out, almost apologetically.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sir Stealth on December 28, 2013, 06:37:01 PM
Breaking News:

The Southampton team bus drove past me before
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 28, 2013, 06:41:39 PM
Breaking News:

The Southampton team bus drove past me before

Before what?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 28, 2013, 06:56:20 PM
I'm reviewing my team selection

Robles

Coleman Jagielka Distin Oviedo

McCarthy Osman(lucky sod)

Mirallas Barkley Pienaar

Lukaku(got to keep faith)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 28, 2013, 07:26:11 PM
We'll win this. Just a case of how many we'll get.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sir Stealth on December 28, 2013, 07:33:34 PM
Before what?

Dinner
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Katz on December 29, 2013, 04:24:29 AM
We will win this in style .
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: sharpattack on December 29, 2013, 06:40:59 AM

We will win this in style .
We better
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sir Stealth on December 29, 2013, 06:09:17 PM
Jags and Stones out?

Alcaraz debut?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 06:10:18 PM
Thought we didn't have any injury worries?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 29, 2013, 06:11:29 PM
Jags and Stones out?

Alcaraz debut?

Jags out? Please say no!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sir Stealth on December 29, 2013, 06:12:49 PM
Jags out? Please say no!

Strong rumours on twitter. Though you know how unreliable that can be
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 06:12:50 PM
Jags out? Please say no!

No.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sir Stealth on December 29, 2013, 06:14:39 PM
Greg okeefe says he expects Stones to start if Jags misses out. Though I did see a rumour saying Stones and Alcaraz are also out!

Come on Jonny lad!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 29, 2013, 06:17:58 PM
Is this a twitter rumour because everyone usually in the know can't confirm it.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 29, 2013, 06:18:47 PM
What is up with jagielka?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 06:19:28 PM
What is up with jagielka?

Sounds like twitter has put him out of the game.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sir Stealth on December 29, 2013, 06:19:35 PM
Is this a twitter rumour because everyone usually in the know can't confirm it.

Who knows how these things start!we'll know for sure in about half an hour.lets hope its not true as we dont need any more injuries
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 29, 2013, 06:19:38 PM
Greg okeefe says he expects Stones to start if Jags misses out. Though I did see a rumour saying Stones and Alcaraz are also out!

Come on Jonny lad!

Big John Heitinga bows out with a match winning performance #not
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sir Stealth on December 29, 2013, 06:22:07 PM
At least scapegoats wont be in short supply!

Osmannnnn!Heitingaaaaaa!Naismiiiiiiiiithhhh!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 29, 2013, 06:23:01 PM
Ah a twitter injury, hard to shake off them.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: TheRam on December 29, 2013, 06:23:52 PM
There's always twitter rumours before the match. Remember Baines was supposed to be back at United
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 29, 2013, 06:31:43 PM
4 weeks? Johnny about that transfer, it's off pal
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: pjk on December 29, 2013, 06:33:31 PM
Team for today.

http://t.co/AgAj3Tv1os (http://t.co/AgAj3Tv1os)



http://t.co/3hSDWvyqGD (http://t.co/3hSDWvyqGD)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 29, 2013, 06:36:50 PM
Osman captain. I imagine there's a whole world of hate for that decison
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 06:37:08 PM
Wow Alcaraz comes straight in, Stones on bench. Baines and Oveido in as I predicted.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Glory on December 29, 2013, 06:37:18 PM
Big game today!

Will be interesting to see how Distin and Alcaraz link up.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Tinga on December 29, 2013, 06:37:29 PM
This might be a lot harder than we thought with that team.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 29, 2013, 06:38:13 PM
Few surprise selections COYB
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 06:38:31 PM
Pienaar and Mirallas on the bench. Hmmmm.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 06:39:19 PM
Robels

Coleman Alcaraz Distin Baines

McCarthy Osman

Naismith Barkley Oveido

Lukaku

Formation?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 29, 2013, 06:40:18 PM
Pienaar and Mirallas on the bench. Hmmmm.

Very odd pienaar being dropped. Tired?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blob on December 29, 2013, 06:41:18 PM
no longer confident for this :(
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 06:45:47 PM
Southampton have problems of their own. They're playing a keeper who hasn't played since May.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: whirlwind82 on December 29, 2013, 06:47:11 PM
Just seems a little bit of a cop out decision for me playing both Oviedo and baines. Not a fan of playing someone out Of position to accommodate someone else. Same with osman if he starts on the right. Maybe Naismith to play on the right?? Hopefully Oviedo slots in well though. Can see this being very tight and be good to have a look at alcaraz. 1-0 will be perfect :)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 06:49:00 PM
Jags with a hamstring injury... and 5 changes.. gulp. :(

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2013/12/29/jagielka-out-injured (http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2013/12/29/jagielka-out-injured)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 29, 2013, 06:50:20 PM
bonkers selection. Not looking forward to it now :(
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: TheRam on December 29, 2013, 06:53:24 PM
Relax boys.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 29, 2013, 06:53:56 PM
What an absolute bonkers line up.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 06:57:09 PM
BBC

MOTD's Alistair Mann at Goodison Park
Everton v Southampton (1330 GMT)

"There are occasions on which a manager takes more positives from a defeat than a victory - Everton's loss to Sunderland was one such example.

"Despite being down to 10 men for two thirds of the fixture, Roberto Martinez looked on with pride as his side put in the kind of display that reaffirmed to him his squad are oozing with character and self-belief.

Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 06:57:20 PM
Vindicate me and blargins, Oviedo!!!

Didn't expect the rest of the changes, though.  Gulp.

Excited to see what Alcaraz can do, though.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: sharpattack on December 29, 2013, 06:57:41 PM
Terrible line-up
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: bluestevie on December 29, 2013, 06:59:12 PM
Gutted that Jags is out but I'm looking forward to seeing how Alcaraz fits in, good to see Bainesy back but it's a shame Oviedo has to be switched to midfield. Surprised at Naismith starting but he can do a job, Osman has to have a better start today, seeing as he's got the armband (should be Distin really). Team is still got enough in to win today so why are people panicking?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 07:00:08 PM
In two hours time, I'm hoping we'll all be saying it was an inspired line up which took the pressure off the squad and lowered expectations, enabled the boys to relax and enjoy a 5-0 victory.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on December 29, 2013, 07:00:56 PM
Alcaraz in the side is an enforced change, Mirallas has been shite of late, I think RM would have been better of starting Jelavic after his efforts against Sunderland instead of Naismith, but Naismith has been slagged of in the past and always seems to pop up with a goal. Interesting to see Baines/Oviedo partnership. Keep Lallana and Rodriguez quiet and we can win this.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 07:02:07 PM
I think putting the armband on Osman is a management strategy - RM showing him how much he still believes in him.  Even if his presence in the starting XI makes me nervous (he's better off the bench), this is fantastic people management.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Trowel on December 29, 2013, 07:07:48 PM
I'm all over Osman first goalscorer.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 07:09:49 PM
Terrible line-up

Lets at least kick a ball before you start your usual negative pish.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 29, 2013, 07:13:12 PM
Robles, Coleman, Alcaraz, Distin, Baines, McCarthy, Osman, Naismith, Barkley, Oviedo, Lukaku. Subs: Hibbert, Heitinga, Jelavic, Mirallas, Pienaar, Stones, Springthorpe.

Strange but interesting. Should be anything but boring - bring it on..........

Naisy to score the winner btw.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: stirlingblue on December 29, 2013, 07:15:05 PM
Time to prove those Naisayers wrong...

Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 07:18:30 PM
Former Everton captain Kevin Ratcliffe on MOTD2 Extra: "Roberto Martinez has relaxed everybody at Everton and has given his team the freedom to play. Everton have done very well on the pitch. Martinez has bought into the history of the football club and it's working in his favour, but look at his signings, players like Romelu Lukaku and Gareth Barry. They've made a massive change to the side and the pace they now have is something we haven't seen from them in recent years."
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Cuttyblue on December 29, 2013, 07:20:34 PM
The Lineup is... Different.  I trust in RM, although I wouldn't be surprised with a draw.

Looking forward to Ossie taking full advantage of RMs statement of support.  Again Martinez oozes positivity and class.

COYB, will be a very interesting match in terms of observing individual players
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: chang on December 29, 2013, 07:20:42 PM
Maybe best to wait and see how the team plays before condemning it as bonkers / rubbish ?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Yobo2008 on December 29, 2013, 07:21:28 PM
Im hopeful rather than confident.......
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Redartin on December 29, 2013, 07:22:24 PM
Of all the games over the festivie period this was the one I had doubts about. I genuinely could not see us losing any of the others, but then Sunderland happened, injuries happened, suspensions happened.

This game has now become a "must win" and we have numerous changes, key players missing and other results going in favour of rivals.

A 2-0 defeat today and wins for Newcastle & Spurs and we slip to 7th, level on points with Spurs.
On the other hand a win for us and Chelsea today puts us 4th going into the New Year.

Let's get some of Roberto's positivity into these threads and run with the latter - 4th above the red shite coming up.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 07:24:26 PM
I expect this lineup will play together better than most think...
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 07:25:11 PM
he's playing the hand he's been dealt lads

he's picked the team he thinks is the best out of the available players

was always going to be a challenge with the backbone of the side unavailable
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: DannyR on December 29, 2013, 07:26:25 PM
Caption contest
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 07:27:52 PM
Caption contest

"Must be nice to be promoted from Steven Gerrard's assistant referee for once, Mark"
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: charlatan on December 29, 2013, 07:27:58 PM
Any streams lids
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Amata on December 29, 2013, 07:28:41 PM
Different lineup than I expected but e need to keep it fresh as e put in so much effort against Sunderland 3 days ago. Plus Mirallas hasn't been well, Pienaar looked a bit tired when he come off against Sunderland and obviously Alcaraz has a lot more experience than Stones.

At least we have good attacking options on the bench.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 07:28:59 PM
Caption contest

"You're that cunt that robbed us in the derby a few years ago, aren't you"
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Zoolander on December 29, 2013, 07:29:09 PM
anyone any decent streams ?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Amata on December 29, 2013, 07:29:13 PM
I reckon we are nailed on for a pen today, 1st one this season!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 07:29:31 PM
Any streams lids

http://www.stadium-live.com/Channel2.html (http://www.stadium-live.com/Channel2.html)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blob on December 29, 2013, 07:30:13 PM
http://livesport4u.com/stream1.html (http://livesport4u.com/stream1.html)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Trowel on December 29, 2013, 07:30:27 PM
Nice tribute.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 07:30:48 PM
RIP great Evertonian Mr Ron Jones who passed away this year.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: stirlingblue on December 29, 2013, 07:31:02 PM
http://nutjob.eu/njtvx27.html (http://nutjob.eu/njtvx27.html)

working fine for me
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 07:32:41 PM
Clattenburg getting a nice, warm reception.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 07:33:44 PM
Playing direct at the moment.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Glory on December 29, 2013, 07:33:47 PM
Good to see Clattenburg getting a lovely reception lolol
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 07:34:48 PM
The stream gods are fucking me over.  The Everton "watch now" link is taking me to the fucking Arsehole game.  FFS
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 07:35:34 PM
good run from Barkley that
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 07:35:48 PM
Streaming the game on my phone and have it hooked up to my tv. The live game on NBC is the Newcastle one.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 07:35:48 PM
The stream gods are fucking me over.  The Everton "watch now" link is taking me to the fucking Arsehole game.  FFS

Loads here: http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=232249&part=sports (http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=232249&part=sports)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 07:37:47 PM
Loads here: http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=232249&part=sports (http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=232249&part=sports)

Thanks, I am watching that one now.  Usually these implode for me after 10 minutes, hopefully NBC will fix their shit by then...
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 07:38:18 PM
Great play by Alcaraz there.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 07:38:37 PM
Thanks, I am watching that one now.  Usually these implode for me after 10 minutes, hopefully NBC will fix their shit by then...

NBC is fine for me.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 07:39:30 PM
Anyone's heart in their mouth when Leon passed back to Joel there?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Redartin on December 29, 2013, 07:40:38 PM
Why is Shaw getting shit?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 07:41:07 PM
what a goal!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blob on December 29, 2013, 07:41:09 PM
what a fucking goal!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Glory on December 29, 2013, 07:41:14 PM
I love him
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: DannyR on December 29, 2013, 07:41:20 PM
Coleman!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Zoolander on December 29, 2013, 07:41:22 PM
Fuck yeh Coleman !
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 07:41:29 PM
incredible from Coleman!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 07:41:34 PM
Playing very much like David Moyes' Everton at the moment.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Redartin on December 29, 2013, 07:41:39 PM
The man is a god!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 07:41:51 PM
What a fucking goal!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Brownie on December 29, 2013, 07:41:52 PM
Get in there Seamus!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 07:41:57 PM
Why is Shaw getting shit?

said on Twitter he didn't want to come to Everton
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Cozzie on December 29, 2013, 07:42:01 PM
Haha what a worldy from coleman!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 07:42:02 PM
All we need is Seamus, lads!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Trowel on December 29, 2013, 07:42:02 PM
Wow :)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 29, 2013, 07:42:08 PM
What a player we have here.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 07:42:14 PM
Brilliant!!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 07:42:51 PM
Needs saying again. What a fucking goal!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 07:42:57 PM
first whistle from Clattenburg to signal an Everton goal.  nice.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: hill135 on December 29, 2013, 07:43:00 PM
Unstoppable shot, unstoppable player. Coleman's off his nut recently.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Cuttyblue on December 29, 2013, 07:43:25 PM
What an absolutely magnificent solo goal... Who is the better right back in the league than Coleman?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 29, 2013, 07:43:42 PM
Playing very much like David Moyes' Everton at the moment.

*yawn*
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: bluegrant on December 29, 2013, 07:44:09 PM
and were off coybsssssssssssss
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Glory on December 29, 2013, 07:44:10 PM
Robles is fairly poor at clearing the ball in terms of distance.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 07:44:11 PM
I think that's our goal of the season.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: DannyR on December 29, 2013, 07:44:54 PM
Best 60k spent, ever!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 07:44:57 PM
*yawn*

Hey, it worked :)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 07:45:24 PM
Bastard stream went down, missed the goal, arghh :(
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 07:45:42 PM
I think that's our goal of the season.

The two at Swansea were better, as was Baines free kicks against West Ham.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Danny on December 29, 2013, 07:46:00 PM
You can definately tell Alcaraz has played under Martinez before.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 07:46:12 PM
well done Leon Osman, great running and covering
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 07:46:16 PM
Nice frm Ossie
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 29, 2013, 07:47:40 PM
Commentators need to get our of Ossie's arse. I like him but he's hardly Xavi.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 07:47:40 PM
The two at Swansea were better, as was Baines free kicks against West Ham.

The two at Swansea were not out of the blue like this one. This was a superb solo effort. Loved it. And it meant more after the last game.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 07:48:13 PM
well done Leon Osman, great running and covering

Yep, stopped a very good chance of a Saints goal there.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 07:49:12 PM
hate this "sporting behaviour" nonsense.  he's just over-reached himself and will be running for the rest of the 90 minutes so just carry on!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 07:49:14 PM
Play on ffs.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Redartin on December 29, 2013, 07:49:22 PM
said on Twitter he didn't want to come to Everton

The way he is playing at the minute looks like he never came today either. Fuck him then.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 07:49:35 PM
No way will Shaw come here now lol
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 07:49:38 PM
The two at Swansea were not out of the blue like this one. This was a superb solo effort. Loved it. And it meant more after the last game.

Coleman's wasn't out of the blue?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 29, 2013, 07:50:30 PM
Best 60k spent, ever!


*just behind Peter Reid.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: stirlingblue on December 29, 2013, 07:50:40 PM
Robles is fairly poor at clearing the ball in terms of distance.

Cue him kicking it straight through to Gazzaniga.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 07:50:50 PM
definite push on Naismith there
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 07:51:10 PM
Coleman's wasn't out of the blue?

Not like this one. I expected the cross today, not a shot at goal from that angle. The one at Swansea you could see he was shaping for the shot.

Anyway, COleman is fucking ace :)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 29, 2013, 07:51:29 PM
Hey, it worked :)

:D
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 07:52:25 PM
Not like this one. I expected the cross today, not a shot at goal from that angle. The one at Swansea you could see he was shaping for the shot.

Anyway, COleman is fucking ace :)

Ah right, I wasn't aware there was a qualifying criteria for goal of the season. ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 29, 2013, 07:52:47 PM
Anyone got a really good stream. Mines a bit blurred. Thought Coleman had missed
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Alex6691 on December 29, 2013, 07:53:39 PM
english stream anyone?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: stirlingblue on December 29, 2013, 07:53:44 PM
http://www.stadium-live.com/Channel2.html (http://www.stadium-live.com/Channel2.html)

This one has been the best I've found so far, have to watch a quick ad before it starts though.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 07:53:55 PM
Ah right, I wasn't aware there was a qualifying criteria for goal of the season. ;)

lol I just love that goal.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 29, 2013, 07:53:57 PM
Alcaraz looks ace on the ball.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Zoolander on December 29, 2013, 07:54:09 PM
Anyone got a really good stream. Mines a bit blurred. Thought Coleman had missed
only found good ones with foreign commentary or blurry English ones
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Alex6691 on December 29, 2013, 07:54:18 PM
wait who is alacaraz on for? I've only just tuned in.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 07:54:49 PM
Alcaraz looks ace on the ball.

he's done very well so far
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 07:55:05 PM
wait who is alacaraz on for? I've only just tuned in.

Jags. He started the game. Jags is out with a hamstring injury.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 07:55:29 PM
With Jags and Howard out, is Distin the only player to have played every league game this season?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Alex6691 on December 29, 2013, 07:56:16 PM
Jags. He started the game. Jags is out with a hamstring injury.


oh shit. do they think its a long one?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blob on December 29, 2013, 07:56:21 PM
this one is very good -

http://livesport4u.com/stream1.html (http://livesport4u.com/stream1.html)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 29, 2013, 07:56:37 PM
Listening to this on Five Live, how Ratcliffe still can't pronounce our players names correctly I don't know!

"Bryan Ovee-doh"
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Zoolander on December 29, 2013, 07:56:46 PM
http://www.stadium-live.com/Channel2.html (http://www.stadium-live.com/Channel2.html)

This one has been the best I've found so far, have to watch a quick ad before it starts though.
decent that one - cheers
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 07:56:50 PM
With Jags and Howard out, is Distin the only player to have played every league game this season?

Has KM ever not played at all?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 07:56:50 PM

oh shit. do they think its a long one?

Probably the same length as most hamstrings?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 07:56:53 PM
offside, but a definite free kick in the build up there
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 07:56:57 PM

oh shit. do they think its a long one?

No idea mate.

At present, Alcaraz looks like he's played with us for years.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 29, 2013, 07:57:02 PM
With Jags and Howard out, is Distin the only player to have played every league game this season?

Seamus?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 29, 2013, 07:57:09 PM
BBC live feed. Mathew Penistone: How is Coleman not on teams' radars?! Arsenal, Utd and Chelsea all need another right-back. Who better?!

cunt.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 07:57:26 PM
Has KM ever not played at all?

He's been in and out the side a bit this season.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 07:58:06 PM
We need another here.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Trowel on December 29, 2013, 07:58:17 PM
 :hail:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_eIc6nAvf7Y/UsAnzK9CK5I/AAAAAAAAAoI/-fm_wy14YcA/w506-h281/COLEMAN.gif)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Amata on December 29, 2013, 07:58:51 PM
Southampton pressing well and making us go long.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 07:59:21 PM
BBC live feed. Mathew Penistone: How is Coleman not on teams' radars?! Arsenal, Utd and Chelsea all need another right-back. Who better?!

cunt.

I'll go out on a limb and say that Seamus is POY in the Prem this season.  And the "Sky Four" can have Seamus when they pry him from our cold, dead hands.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Cassius on December 29, 2013, 07:59:47 PM
How's Clattentwat doing so far?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Cuttyblue on December 29, 2013, 07:59:54 PM
Not really in control here.  They've had a few good half chances. 

I'd like to see the pace slow down and us hold more possession.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 08:00:20 PM
He's been in and out the side a bit this season.

Hasn't played every MINUTE, but I think he's played every GAME.  Maybe I misread the question.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 08:00:31 PM
How's Clattentwat doing so far?

could have given us a VERY generous penalty but didn't

must have made about 3 decisions in the first 28 minutes
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 08:00:45 PM
How's Clattentwat doing so far?

Denied us a clear penalty again.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: stirlingblue on December 29, 2013, 08:00:49 PM
Credit to Southampton, I haven't seen a team press us as well as this so far this season.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 08:01:21 PM
This is one game we needed Barry to play in.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 08:01:38 PM
Denied us a clear penalty again.

It would have been very soft.

Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 08:02:04 PM
It would have been very soft.



generous but giveable
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 08:02:43 PM
Soft, yes.  But also such a clear, blatant shove that I think it has to be given.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 29, 2013, 08:03:15 PM
No chance that was a penalty to be honest.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 08:03:28 PM
As soft as the one given Sunderland.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 29, 2013, 08:03:37 PM
whoever is commenting the stream im watching said its only a slight hamstring for jags and he will prob be back in the next couple of weeks, its more precautionary today.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 08:04:05 PM
Injured Everton loanee Gerard Deulofeu
Everton 1-0 Southampton
"Yeesss! Come on Everton! Seamus the best!"
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Cuttyblue on December 29, 2013, 08:04:49 PM
How's Clattentwat doing so far?

Staying out of the limelight, which is fine for me
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 08:05:02 PM
It must be said how nice it is to see Bainsey on the pitch, where he belongs.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: charlatan on December 29, 2013, 08:05:38 PM
Cheers for the link Gash.  Had a boss one on Sopcast that bit the dust after 20 minutes
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: stirlingblue on December 29, 2013, 08:05:42 PM
Former Everton captain Kevin Ratcliffe at Goodison Park
Everton 1-0 Southampton
"Steven Naismith has won the ball in the air twice against much taller centre-backs, but both times Romelu Lukaku has not gambled on that happening."


Fair point.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 08:06:04 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BcqGvvgCMAAA0Ct.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 08:06:21 PM
great work between Coleman and Naismith there
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Cuttyblue on December 29, 2013, 08:07:00 PM
Former Everton captain Kevin Ratcliffe at Goodison Park
Everton 1-0 Southampton
"Steven Naismith has won the ball in the air twice against much taller centre-backs, but both times Romelu Lukaku has not gambled on that happening."


Fair point.

He's play well so far. Decent passing, fighting for headers and putting in tackles.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 08:08:11 PM
Naismith looked rusty at first, giving the ball away a lot and looking clumsy. He's getting up to speed now and shows he is a good squad player to have.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Zoolander on December 29, 2013, 08:08:26 PM
great tracking from Mccarthy there
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 08:08:41 PM
Hoping we can keep Robles' day boring.  He can get his excitement/time to shine in the FA Cup.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Amata on December 29, 2013, 08:08:55 PM
We need to stop letting their midfielders run 30-40 yards through the middle at will.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: charlatan on December 29, 2013, 08:09:12 PM
Thought Naismith has been about our best player so far :oO
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 08:09:31 PM
Great tracking by McCarthy.

Alcaraz looking pretty composed fro someone who hasn't played for a long time. Naismith having a decent game as well, this style seem to suit him a bit better despite him not always having a great first touch.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 08:10:43 PM
We need to stop letting their midfielders run 30-40 yards through the middle at will.

We need to take Will off then.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 29, 2013, 08:11:14 PM
Our defence looking great, the whole team playing really well :)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: charlatan on December 29, 2013, 08:11:50 PM
Should have been level
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 08:11:50 PM
how did Lalana get through there?

thank christ he missed!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blob on December 29, 2013, 08:12:02 PM
shit...they should have scored...but didn't :)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Amata on December 29, 2013, 08:12:06 PM
We need to take Will off then.

Swap him with willy-nilly then!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 08:12:08 PM
That would have been goal of the year.  Thank fuck he missed!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 08:12:16 PM
Bit of a let off there.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Redartin on December 29, 2013, 08:12:20 PM
Alcaraz is looking a class act - cool as fuck.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 08:12:26 PM
Holy shot close!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Zoolander on December 29, 2013, 08:12:48 PM
Lalana mugged Osman there - luck not to be level.
tight game all over the pitch
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 29, 2013, 08:13:32 PM
Fortunate there.


Considering we are told we don't have the squad to mount a decent CL charge, we're doing pretty well without Howard, Jagielka, Barry, Pienaar and Mirallas/Deulofeu in the XI today.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 08:14:46 PM
To think we have Mirallas and Pienaar in reserve.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 08:15:08 PM
Nothing working down the left so far.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: stirlingblue on December 29, 2013, 08:15:27 PM
Not much happening down the left, Oviedo and Baines don't work together.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonexile on December 29, 2013, 08:15:43 PM
One of the NBC commentators was just ballwashing Gerrard saying that Barkley's free kicking ability was second to his. The other commentator piped up and said, "You might not want to say that around here, you are in the presence of a certain man named Leighton Baines"
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Redartin on December 29, 2013, 08:16:28 PM
Fortunate there.


Considering we are told we don't have the squad to mount a decent CL charge, we're doing pretty well without Howard, Jagielka, Barry, Pienaar and Mirallas/Deulofeu in the XI today.

Plus we are playing a good team who have been restricted to one shot so far.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Danny on December 29, 2013, 08:16:33 PM
Lovren is a fucking excellent defender.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 08:17:13 PM
Distin panicking there!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: charlatan on December 29, 2013, 08:17:16 PM
Looking toothless up front again
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 08:17:46 PM
One of the NBC commentators was just ballwashing Gerrard saying that Barkley's free kicking ability was second to his. The other commentator piped up and said, "You might not want to say that around here, you are in the presence of a certain man named Leighton Baines"

He's an absolute whopper who ever he is.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonexile on December 29, 2013, 08:18:00 PM
Nice free kick, think McCarthy got blinded by the sun there.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 08:18:02 PM
What was Distin doing?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 08:18:26 PM
Yeah, try picking a fight with Distin, you little cunt...
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 08:18:28 PM
hahahaha!  as if Lallana stands a chance!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blob on December 29, 2013, 08:19:00 PM
love the killer look from distin :)

twattenburg has (surprisingly) had a decent half.

let's hope he doesn't get a bung at playtime.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonexile on December 29, 2013, 08:19:34 PM
2 point takedown by Distin there, no chance you're gonna win against him.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: stirlingblue on December 29, 2013, 08:19:47 PM
One of the NBC commentators was just ballwashing Gerrard saying that Barkley's free kicking ability was second to his. The other commentator piped up and said, "You might not want to say that around here, you are in the presence of a certain man named Leighton Baines"

I had that on my stream, he then went on to say that Ward-Prowse has better delivery than Baines!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 29, 2013, 08:19:47 PM
picked on the wrong man there the newlywed scabrous cunt....
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 08:20:04 PM
I don't like that Lallana. Irritating little shit.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: hill135 on December 29, 2013, 08:20:10 PM
They have pressed brilliantly. There's no space for us to play in.

I would introduce Pienaar for Oviedo for the second half. He can find the half-yard we need to create something.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: TheRam on December 29, 2013, 08:20:52 PM
Fucking love Alcaraz
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: charlatan on December 29, 2013, 08:21:01 PM
I had that on my stream, he then went on to say that Ward-Prowse has better delivery than Baines!

Watching the same one.  Wonderful isn't it?  Nice to see it isn't just our pundits that constantly arse lick the red shite
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Redartin on December 29, 2013, 08:21:27 PM
Have all the pre match doubts eased?

Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 08:22:11 PM
They have pressed brilliantly. There's no space for us to play in.

I would introduce Pienaar for Oviedo for the second half. He can find the half-yard we need to create something.

I think so too.

And take Naismith off after about 60 minutes if he hasn't improved for Mirallas to run at them.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Amata on December 29, 2013, 08:22:37 PM
Quite scrappy and disjointed so far but I suppose that's to be expected with all the enforced changes.  We also don't seem to be trusting ourselves when they press, maybe something to do with the mistake by Osman the other day and are resorting to hitting it long.  Baines and Oviedo seem to want to do the same thing and I think Ross should be doing a bit more pressing from the front.

Alcaraz having a very good game so far, reading the game very well and is very composed.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 08:22:58 PM
They have pressed brilliantly. There's no space for us to play in.

I would introduce Pienaar for Oviedo for the second half. He can find the half-yard we need to create something.

My issue with taking Oviedo off...what if Baines' foot injury flares up?  I like the idea of Pienaar being completely fresh for New Year's Day.  I could see KM coming on for Lukaku around the 60 minute mark.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Polledreng on December 29, 2013, 08:23:03 PM
They have pressed brilliantly. There's no space for us to play in.

I would introduce Pienaar for Oviedo for the second half. He can find the half-yard we need to create something.
I would have Oviedo playing LB and take of Baines
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Zoolander on December 29, 2013, 08:23:24 PM
I think so too.

And take Naismith off after about 60 minutes if he hasn't improved for Mirallas to run at them.
good call - was thinking the same
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Toddacelli on December 29, 2013, 08:25:22 PM
Just got the stream up with a few mins left of the first half.  Thanks guys. Can always rely on you guys for a stream on matchday!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 29, 2013, 08:25:42 PM
Absolutely loved that first half, not the most beautiful of football but pressed hard, worked together so well with what seems to be a make shift team. Now i know its not at all and this is just another version of the Martinez way. I love how he isnt afraid to make big changes to fit the overall team and not just do a straight swap for the player making way.

Looking forward to the second half, need another goal as Southampton do look dangerous at times.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on December 29, 2013, 08:26:18 PM
Poor half for me, we all really need to step it up this second half cos Southampton looked like the home side to me. They got on the ball, they didn't let us play and after we scored they looked like the team most likely to score next and second half they'll be bang at it aswell so we need to show for the ball more and move the ball quicker to hurt em!.

Alcaraz as surprised me at how well he's took to the game to say he hasn't kicked a ball all season, played very well and if anything, Distin looks shaky at the back. Don't think Oviedo is playing as well higher up the pitch with no space to run into and Naismith is working hard but not offering much in attack.

Maybe we should change it at half time or give it 10 mins and get Mirallas & Pienaar on, see if they can give us something different in final third to kill the game. But we need to start fast and get on top, cos these will keep coming, and summat as got to happen for em eventually!.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 08:27:07 PM
For any other bloody Yanks who had the same NBC streaming issue I had - the "watch now" Extra Time link is finally fixed.

So I can quit draining bandwidth from the UK streams!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 08:28:12 PM
Absolutely loved that first half, not the most beautiful of football but pressed hard, worked together so well with what seems to be a make shift team. Now i know its not at all and this is just another version of the Martinez way. I love how he isnt afraid to make big changes to fit the overall team and not just do a straight swap for the player making way.

Looking forward to the second half, need another goal as Southampton do look dangerous at times.

Grinding it out.  Nice to see we have multiple ways to win.  Alcaraz giving Seamus a run for MotM.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: slothzen on December 29, 2013, 08:28:55 PM
(http://giant.gfycat.com/HonoredPositiveBlobfish.gif)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 08:29:34 PM
For any other bloody Yanks who had the same NBC streaming issue I had - the "watch now" Extra Time link is finally fixed.

So I can quit draining bandwidth from the UK streams!

A few more American Evertonians were having the same problem. I didn't have an issue at all, maybe it was down to the provider?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 08:30:31 PM
A few more American Evertonians were having the same problem. I didn't have an issue at all, maybe it was down to the provider?

Perhaps so.  I was getting in via Dish Network.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Trowel on December 29, 2013, 08:32:10 PM
And take Naismith off after about 60 minutes if he hasn't improved for Mirallas to run at them.
What's Naismith done wrong?! He might not be as visible as someone who's always having a little dribble down the wing, but his linkup play to get the ball to Lukaku and Coleman has been excellent.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 08:32:35 PM
Seamus Coleman's perfect first half: 23 of 23 passes (100% completion) 1 shot. 1 stunner of a goal..
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 08:32:48 PM
What's Naismith done wrong?! He might not be as visible as someone who's always having a little dribble down the wing, but his linkup play to get the ball to Lukaku and Coleman has been excellent.

I kind of like Naismith on when protecting a 1 goal lead, too.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blob on December 29, 2013, 08:33:49 PM
What's Naismith done wrong?! He might not be as visible as someone who's always having a little dribble down the wing, but his linkup play to get the ball to Lukaku and Coleman has been excellent.

agreed. i certainly wouldn't be considering swapping him for 'out of form mirallas', yet.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 08:34:07 PM
What's Naismith done wrong?! He might not be as visible as someone who's always having a little dribble down the wing, but his linkup play to get the ball to Lukaku and Coleman has been excellent.

He loses the ball too easily. Is easily pressured off it.

Not knocking the guy, he's done some nice things, but he isn't creative and hopefully afresh Mirallas can come on and test the tired Saints defenders later on.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 29, 2013, 08:34:26 PM
Amazing how Naismith can be so good in the air but Lukaku is fairly hapless.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Bwana on December 29, 2013, 08:37:14 PM
I kind of like Naismith on when protecting a 1 goal lead, too.

Hi there Moyesy!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 08:37:21 PM
Sorted my stream now... COYB !!

Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Amata on December 29, 2013, 08:39:37 PM
Very sloppy here.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 08:39:50 PM
Soton on top 2nd half.. need to step it up Blues !
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 08:39:58 PM
need to wake up a bit and settle again
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Amata on December 29, 2013, 08:40:38 PM
Naughty by Oviedo there.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 08:41:07 PM
Was expecting a red then.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 08:41:07 PM
Naughty by Oviedo there.

a bit wild but very little contact really

yellow is fair
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 29, 2013, 08:41:09 PM
Only heard the commentary for that, who did Oviedo murder?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on December 29, 2013, 08:41:30 PM
Nice to see us starting the half quick and taking control........

Fucking wake up Everton!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonexile on December 29, 2013, 08:41:44 PM
Naughty by Oviedo there.

Can't really argue with a yellow.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 08:42:04 PM
Now I might take Oviedo off.  Playing on a yellow with a heavy cautionary talk from the assistant.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 08:42:11 PM
Saints do press very well. Very impressed by them as a unit. Not allowing us to play at all.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Toddacelli on December 29, 2013, 08:42:22 PM
Fuckinell Robles!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Amata on December 29, 2013, 08:42:30 PM
Wtf is going on, we look like we have had a drink at HT
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blob on December 29, 2013, 08:42:47 PM
we need to be careful here.

been very impressed with cork
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonexile on December 29, 2013, 08:42:59 PM
Only heard the commentary for that, who did Oviedo murder?

Came in a little late, bit too fast, maybe with a little bit of studs showing. Just clipped the guy in the ankle, yellow looked fair.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on December 29, 2013, 08:43:09 PM
If we dont book are ideas up at back and just deal with the ball and out it, we'll come a cropper!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: charlatan on December 29, 2013, 08:43:12 PM
Baines looks about 70% fit at most
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 08:43:31 PM
Lovren is a hell of a signing for them
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 08:43:35 PM
Barkley very composed and strong.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonexile on December 29, 2013, 08:44:07 PM
Wtf is going on, we look like we have had a drink at HT


I swear we do this every game. Martinez must have some shit halftime talks.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 08:44:22 PM
Barkley very composed and strong.

Agreed, Ross having a very nice game.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 08:44:22 PM
ohhh so close!

great move
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Zoolander on December 29, 2013, 08:44:26 PM
so so so fucking close
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 08:44:27 PM
Need composed players on soon. Pienaar on for Baines perhaps, and bring Oveido back to left back.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blob on December 29, 2013, 08:44:29 PM
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck...
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Toddacelli on December 29, 2013, 08:44:38 PM
Need to start to exert some authority here. OH! Oviedo!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Amata on December 29, 2013, 08:44:50 PM
Better by Lukaku there, just a touch overhit but brilliant turn and run.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 08:45:10 PM
McCarthy gets out of jail
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 08:45:16 PM
So close1
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 08:45:19 PM
Very creative play by Lukaku and Oviedo there.  Almost got our 2nd.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 29, 2013, 08:45:20 PM
McCarthy atoned for his error.


Osman has been excellent today.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 08:45:22 PM
Noooo... easier to score !!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on December 29, 2013, 08:45:29 PM
Wat are we playing at, this is ridiculous at back, worst ive seen us!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blob on December 29, 2013, 08:45:30 PM
we are enjoying a LOT of luck here.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: charlatan on December 29, 2013, 08:45:32 PM
Changes now Bobby lad
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 08:46:21 PM
McCarthy is everywhere.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 08:46:23 PM
I'd bring Pienaar on now for Naisy.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 08:46:33 PM
Second half much different.  VERY open on both ends of the pitch.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Toddacelli on December 29, 2013, 08:46:34 PM
McCarthy shat himself there but made up for it.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on December 29, 2013, 08:47:09 PM
Are we gonna wake up or what, were 2 seconds slower than these at everything right now!.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blob on December 29, 2013, 08:47:47 PM
my 7-1 prediction is looking a bit iffy...
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Zoolander on December 29, 2013, 08:48:41 PM
Barkley down holding his head and the ref didnt even look in his direction
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 29, 2013, 08:49:34 PM
Very scrappy
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 08:49:37 PM
I agree with Si. When their player was down, we put it out. Barkley was down, and they played on.

Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 08:49:50 PM
Some mad passing at the back here...
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 08:49:52 PM
some naughty challenges coming in from Southampton now
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on December 29, 2013, 08:49:56 PM
If these get a goal it will be from our own doing!!!. What are our experienced players doing today at bk?!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 08:50:04 PM
Ross bailed out Bainsey there...
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: charlatan on December 29, 2013, 08:50:35 PM
Get your cards out you corrupt cunt
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 08:50:43 PM
Come on Pienaar lets get some possession.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 08:50:53 PM
Love the double standards, they have a player down we boo for kicking the ball out, we have a player down and we boo them for not kicking the ball out.  :snigger:
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on December 29, 2013, 08:50:59 PM
They might be getting in tight and getting a foot in but weve got to get stuck in back! Pick up Everton FFS!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 08:51:31 PM
Good change.  Think Oviedo was one foul from a red.  Think we give Baines some rest midweek, and let Oviedo take over LB.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 08:51:50 PM
definite yellow that
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 08:52:35 PM
Pienaar's movement is class..
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 08:52:53 PM
lallana's got a gob on him.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 08:53:20 PM
Love the double standards, they have a player down we boo for kicking the ball out, we have a player down and we boo them for not kicking the ball out.  :snigger:

That's why teams should play on regardless.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 08:54:20 PM
Bit better control now in MF..
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 08:55:00 PM
Lambert is one snide kopite shithouse
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 29, 2013, 08:55:12 PM
They're going to get a man sent off
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: charlatan on December 29, 2013, 08:55:19 PM
Fuck off Lambert you red shite shithouse
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonexile on December 29, 2013, 08:56:04 PM
Technically, by the rules, Lambert should've been sent off. Prick.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blob on December 29, 2013, 08:56:23 PM
sitting a bit deep now. never a good idea.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 08:56:27 PM
dangerous game here

need another goal
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 08:56:57 PM
Robles still not in control on crosses then
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 08:57:06 PM
Jesus Christ are we ball watching?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 08:57:17 PM
I've not seen them play much this season, Soton is better than I thought.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 08:57:41 PM
Joel brave there, nice to see...
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 08:57:42 PM
Holy shit.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: charlatan on December 29, 2013, 08:57:42 PM
WTF are we playing at
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 29, 2013, 08:57:50 PM
Amazing how Naismith can be so good in the air but Lukaku is fairly hapless.
Romelu Lukaku has not scored for five games, and this kind of form is why Jose Mourinho let him go away on loan to learn about his game as he is not the finished article. Ratcliffe
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 08:57:52 PM
Never a dull moment when Robles is involved.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 29, 2013, 08:57:55 PM
Anyone else see an Joel's uncanny resemblance to Luis Suarez?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on December 29, 2013, 08:58:00 PM
Wats been going on at back today as been a piss take at times!. This is worst ive seen us play in a long time, i know weve made changes but its a joke. we'll end up drawing this if it carries on!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Danny on December 29, 2013, 08:58:31 PM
anyone got a better stream than this one: http://livesport4u.com/stream1.html (http://livesport4u.com/stream1.html)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 08:59:06 PM
Anyone else see an Joel's uncanny resemblance to Luis Suarez?

Same shit-eating grin, for sure.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 29, 2013, 08:59:45 PM
Same shit-eating grin, for sure.

May be why I thought they looked similar
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonexile on December 29, 2013, 08:59:52 PM
Same shit-eating grin, for sure.


It's strange to see an Everton goalkeeper smile after years of Howard's constant rage.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 08:59:52 PM
Naisy is doing nothing for us. Time for Mirallas.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 08:59:55 PM
Wats been going on at back today as been a piss take at times!. This is worst ive seen us play in a long time, i know weve made changes but its a joke. we'll end up drawing this if it carries on!


Two central defenders and a keeper that have barely played together was never going to be an easy day.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 09:00:04 PM
worldy that
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: charlatan on December 29, 2013, 09:00:15 PM
Been coming all half.  Fucking pathetic
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Trowel on December 29, 2013, 09:00:16 PM
Great goal, fully deserved. Fuck.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blob on December 29, 2013, 09:00:16 PM
fuck off :(

been coming
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on December 29, 2013, 09:00:38 PM
They deserve that, weve been wank all fucking day long, pissed off!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 09:00:38 PM
oh dear, maybe not as good.  Robles doing a Wessels there!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Zoolander on December 29, 2013, 09:00:42 PM
fuck me how that did that happen - goes straight through robles there
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 29, 2013, 09:00:56 PM
Leighton Baines, sporting a more traditional short, back and sides haircut, has not been at his best today - regularly giving the ball away and wasting good set-piece opportunities. BBC

They love us....
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 29, 2013, 09:00:56 PM
May as well have had no one in goal.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Toddacelli on December 29, 2013, 09:00:57 PM
Fuck off!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 09:00:59 PM
Fuck, could see that one coming. 
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Bluedylan on December 29, 2013, 09:01:04 PM
Anyone else see an Joel's uncanny resemblance to Luis Suarez?
Suarez would've probably saved that.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blob on December 29, 2013, 09:01:09 PM
good goal, but keeper also at fault
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonexile on December 29, 2013, 09:01:27 PM
fuck off :(

been coming


NBC stream lagging.


I have to see your posts and wait for an inevitable disappointment.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 09:01:33 PM
Fuck off.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 29, 2013, 09:01:33 PM
Fuck me. That was poor by Joel.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 09:01:43 PM
Been coming, but the keeper should have done better.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: charlatan on December 29, 2013, 09:01:52 PM
Have we had a shot since Coleman scored?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 09:02:00 PM
Fuck sake.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on December 29, 2013, 09:02:06 PM
We wont win this, these have wanted it more all game, we've been second best to fucking everything and its embarrassing!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Zoolander on December 29, 2013, 09:02:28 PM
all over the shop here
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 09:02:30 PM
Third change - how about Jela for Naismith?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: NYToffee on December 29, 2013, 09:02:44 PM
Been coming, but the keeper should have done better.

Was just thinking - Joel has been very poor, but we may still win this 1-0 and he'll learn without having his confidence shaken.

That was awful.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: cantoffee on December 29, 2013, 09:02:56 PM
Awful awful goalkeeping.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 29, 2013, 09:03:04 PM
Ramierez giving his shirt to an Everton kid
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 09:03:07 PM
GET IN!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 29, 2013, 09:03:11 PM
get in big man...........
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 29, 2013, 09:03:12 PM
BOOM
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: charlatan on December 29, 2013, 09:03:16 PM
About fucking time
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 09:03:19 PM
Think I'd take the draw now. They look strong.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 09:03:21 PM
We wont win this, these have wanted it more all game, we've been second best to fucking everything and its embarrassing!!!!

Ohhh shut up. ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blob on December 29, 2013, 09:03:23 PM
thank fuck for that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 09:03:25 PM
great move, great finish
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Zoolander on December 29, 2013, 09:03:29 PM
fuck yes
awesome goal
lukaku finally

awesome
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: cantoffee on December 29, 2013, 09:03:31 PM
Beauty
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Bluedylan on December 29, 2013, 09:03:36 PM
What a pass. Take a bow James McCarthy lad.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: SPJ on December 29, 2013, 09:03:37 PM
Lukaku!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 09:03:44 PM
Think I'd take the draw now. They look strong.

Ha ha maybe not !!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on December 29, 2013, 09:03:51 PM
Cant believe that, weve got lucky here so lets get a grip of game and finish em off!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 09:03:57 PM
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 09:03:57 PM
Thank fuck! Lukaku!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 09:03:58 PM
brilliant technique on the pass from McCarthy there
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: The Good Citizen on December 29, 2013, 09:04:19 PM
Urgh, a penalty, a sending off and a 3 game ban is such a daft rule for denying a chance at go...Ah fuck that yes!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: NYToffee on December 29, 2013, 09:04:19 PM
That's why I love this team.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Redartin on December 29, 2013, 09:04:31 PM
We were linked with an England U21 keeper who plays for reading - I can see why.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 09:04:38 PM
Brilliant by all three lads there.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 09:04:57 PM
People have been writing Lukaku off, but that's his first proper chance in ages.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 09:04:58 PM
Stunning goal... get in !
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Alex6691 on December 29, 2013, 09:05:11 PM
So for the guy who says we should sell Pienaar because he doesn't score and doesn't create anything...
if it wasn't for his great through ball we wouldn't of had that goal.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 09:05:31 PM
McCarthy has been my motm. He's been everywhere.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Bluedylan on December 29, 2013, 09:05:49 PM
How do you slow the game down and control the ball against these cunts?? Anyone?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 29, 2013, 09:06:02 PM
McCarthy excellent for that goal, movement and pass.

great through ball from Pienaar.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 09:06:08 PM
Cant believe that, weve got lucky here so lets get a grip of game and finish em off!!!

It wasn't lucky at all, it was a great goal. And for all their pressing they've hardly had a shot on target.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Toddacelli on December 29, 2013, 09:06:09 PM
And the Beast has awoken!

Class flicked pass by McCarthy - Iniestaesque!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on December 29, 2013, 09:06:23 PM
What are we doing, straight back to being sloppy!. concentrate and use the ball better Everton!!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blob on December 29, 2013, 09:06:37 PM
twattenburg will have burn marks on his pocket by the final whistle.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Zoolander on December 29, 2013, 09:07:24 PM
there's a big Barry shaped hole in the middle of the pitch
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on December 29, 2013, 09:07:48 PM
frame yourselves Everton, come on ffs!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Trowel on December 29, 2013, 09:08:18 PM
How do you slow the game down and control the ball against these cunts?? Anyone?
Southampton have been excellent haven't they, probably the best team we've played at home so far this season.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 29, 2013, 09:08:29 PM
How do you slow the game down and control the ball against these cunts?? Anyone?

Take away their sweeties
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on December 29, 2013, 09:08:55 PM
It wasn't lucky at all, it was a great goal. And for all their pressing they've hardly had a shot on target.


We havent been lucky?!. It was a great goal but they've been on top regardless of what they've created and stuff. We've been shit pal, end of!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 09:09:13 PM
oh my god that would have been an amazing goal if Lukaku had scored that!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Zoolander on December 29, 2013, 09:09:15 PM
fuck me thought lukaku was actually going to walk that in then
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blob on December 29, 2013, 09:09:22 PM
joel doesn't inspire much confidence.

come back, tim, all is forgiven.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: charlatan on December 29, 2013, 09:09:41 PM
there's a big Barry shaped hole in the middle of the pitch

spot on
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 09:09:46 PM
Southampton have been excellent haven't they, probably the best team we've played at home so far this season.

agreed
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 09:09:59 PM
Lukaku has his mojo back !
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Toddacelli on December 29, 2013, 09:10:02 PM
I do think Southampton have played better against us than most teams have this season.
Great game!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on December 29, 2013, 09:10:42 PM
Southampton have been excellent haven't they, probably the best team we've played at home so far this season.


easily for me, they've played us to a tee. stopped us playing altogether and took control of the game for large parts. we need to get a grip of the game and kill it if possible
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Toddacelli on December 29, 2013, 09:11:02 PM
I do think Southampton have played better against us than most teams have this season.
Great game!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 09:11:05 PM
Commentators are correct - both teams have played their asses off today, and are legitimately good teams.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blob on December 29, 2013, 09:11:37 PM
it will be a BIG win if we can hold on here. southampton are very good.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 09:12:03 PM
They just walk though us.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 09:12:15 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BcqWFq8CYAA-SB-.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 09:12:32 PM

We havent been lucky?!. It was a great goal but they've been on top regardless of what they've created and stuff. We've been shit pal, end of!

Have a day off, we've made five changes, and as said earlier a keeper and central defence that have hardly played together.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 29, 2013, 09:12:44 PM
So pissed off, every week i put Lukaku to score and this is the first game i didnt and he bloody scores haha!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 29, 2013, 09:13:14 PM
Why do Southampton players have the same haircut?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Bluedylan on December 29, 2013, 09:13:26 PM
They are a very, very good football team. This would be a massive win for us. COYB!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 09:13:27 PM
This was the one game we needed Barry in. But McCarthy has done extremely well and Osman was ok too.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on December 29, 2013, 09:13:33 PM
well script is written for him if we dont sort ourselves out and let this keep on coming at us!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 09:13:57 PM
So pissed off, every week i put Lukaku to score and this is the first game i didnt and he bloody scores haha!

You know what to do in future then :)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 09:14:14 PM
Why do Southampton players have the same haircut?

And a douchey haircut at that.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 09:14:49 PM
And a douchey haircut at that.

Mirallas would fit in well.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 09:15:08 PM
Infostrada Sports

Everton 2-1 Southampton ('75): Lukaku scores his 20th EPL goal of 2013, surpassing Van Persie and Sturridge. Only Suarez has more (29).
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 09:15:38 PM
Lukaku got the ball there
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Trowel on December 29, 2013, 09:17:12 PM
Seen them given... Well done Mark ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 09:17:45 PM
I respect their skill, but they sure are a bunch of whiny cunts.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 29, 2013, 09:18:10 PM
I think we can say Clattenburg decided to compensate.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on December 29, 2013, 09:18:48 PM
Have a day off, we've made five changes, and as said earlier a keeper and central defence that have hardly played together.

Have a day off?! So are you happy with today then, regardless?. I know weve made changes and said so in earlier posts but we shouldnt be playing like twats for 90 minutes ya mug!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 09:18:53 PM
what a save for Davies there

would have put money on Lukaku scoring that
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Zoolander on December 29, 2013, 09:18:54 PM
unlucky there - could have killed it
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blob on December 29, 2013, 09:18:58 PM
shit....what a save :(
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: DannyR on December 29, 2013, 09:19:18 PM
What a save, I need that goal aswell :(
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 09:19:27 PM
So close Lukaku!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 29, 2013, 09:20:19 PM
Have a day off?! So are you happy with today then, regardless?. I know weve made changes and said so in earlier posts but we should be playing like twats for 90 minutes ya mug!

Get a grip bloody hell
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Bluedylan on December 29, 2013, 09:20:33 PM
Have a day off?! So are you happy with today then, regardless?. I know weve made changes and said so in earlier posts but we should be playing like twats for 90 minutes ya mug!
He's right Aidy. There are loads of mitigating circumstances. Sometimes you just have to take any scrappy win, against a very strong, motivated team.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 09:20:48 PM
Have a day off?! So are you happy with today then, regardless?. I know weve made changes and said so in earlier posts but we shouldnt be playing like twats for 90 minutes ya mug!

If it finishes 2-1, then yes I'll be happy. That's all that matters, mug.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 09:21:01 PM
3 minutes from where?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 29, 2013, 09:22:25 PM
only mug here is clatty for not giving the handball in the box.......
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 09:22:58 PM
Given the changes and the tiredness with all the games I think we have done well.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 09:23:05 PM
All guts, this fixture.  We are on the doorstep of getting 3 points despite 43% possession.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Trowel on December 29, 2013, 09:23:31 PM
3 minutes from where?
Tulsa - the efficiency of modern transport.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blob on December 29, 2013, 09:23:37 PM
very good game, but i think we were a bit lucky to get all 3 points from that.

but we did   :woohoo:
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 09:23:41 PM
that'll do nicely
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on December 29, 2013, 09:23:42 PM
If it finishes 2-1, then yes I'll be happy. That's all that matters, mug.


I'll be happy with a win, believe me, but playing like we have the majority of the game, the mistakes and things, im not happy with that. changes or not, it shouldnt be happening for near on 90 mins.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Bluedylan on December 29, 2013, 09:23:45 PM
Massive win after Sunderland. Biggest win of the season. COYB!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 29, 2013, 09:23:49 PM
big win that - ace.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 09:24:12 PM
Maaaasive win... love it !!!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Brownie on December 29, 2013, 09:24:17 PM
Great win that. Tough game
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: charlatan on December 29, 2013, 09:24:26 PM
Thanks fuck for that.  And thank fuck Barry and Howard are back next game
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: sirblue57 on December 29, 2013, 09:24:34 PM
Caption contest

"anymore of your antics, and we let  sheamus 'ave ya, ok?"
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Trowel on December 29, 2013, 09:24:36 PM
Brilliant result, even more so given it's a potential rival, plus Newcastle losing.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 09:24:36 PM

I'll be happy with a win, believe me, but playing like we have the majority of the game, the mistakes and things, im not happy with that. changes or not, it shouldnt be happening for near on 90 mins.

Well thankfully all your moaning has been for nothing.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blob on December 29, 2013, 09:24:54 PM
back up to 4th...for a while :)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 29, 2013, 09:24:54 PM
Back on track.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on December 29, 2013, 09:25:21 PM
Well played Southampton, best side weve faced all season by a country mile. Made us look average today
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Redartin on December 29, 2013, 09:25:24 PM
Terrific win all things considered - just need a Chelsea win to make it a perfect day.
Happy new year everyone.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2013, 09:25:24 PM
Big Rom is back !!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BcqYUTLCYAEj22a.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 09:25:50 PM
Our character remains our best trait as a football club.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on December 29, 2013, 09:26:37 PM
Well thankfully all your moaning has been for nothing.


Moaning? Right. I call it giving a fuck tbh in my own little way but fair enough.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: TheRam on December 29, 2013, 09:26:43 PM
Today highlighted how important Pienaar is.

Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: 18efc78 on December 29, 2013, 09:26:56 PM
Absolutely awful and we have been since at least Fullham.. Deserved a point at most out of that. You can't continually lose possession cheaply within 25 yards of our own goal.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 29, 2013, 09:27:10 PM
Well played Southampton, best side weve faced all season by a country mile. Made us look average today

Agreed.


We could make another team out of injuries and suspensions though.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 29, 2013, 09:27:26 PM
Made up with that win, knew it wouldnt be a game of sublime football and we adjusted very well, maybe why Naismith started? Martinez knew we wouldnt have the space to play our way. Very happy with 3 points and sometimes you just have to play scrappy!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 09:27:31 PM
Big relief.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: hill135 on December 29, 2013, 09:28:12 PM
Thank god Martinez didn't heed the advice of some and bring Jelavic back for that
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 09:28:29 PM
I don't get all the fuss about Lalluna or whatever his stupid name is.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Zoolander on December 29, 2013, 09:28:44 PM
Very, very hard fought and well earned 3 points there.
Not a dazzling display by any means but having so many of our first team missing and still winning, against what looked to me to be the best team to play us at Goodison for some time, is very, very pleasing.
Cracking goal by Coleman and a goal for Lukaku that may just give him his mojo back are a couple of welcome new year gifts. Add to that Alkaraz looks more than able to be in the first team, which is good to see.
We clearly miss Barry and having no Gibson to slot in we are very light in the centre, Southampton exposed that but having Barry back again will improve us no end.

Not perfect by any means but a great three points - happy new year blues!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 09:28:55 PM
A big Chelsea win would do nicely.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: TheRam on December 29, 2013, 09:29:09 PM
We were not as bad as people make out, fucking hell, far from awful. They didn't have one clear chance, give it a fucking rest
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Cozzie on December 29, 2013, 09:29:19 PM
Makes the sunderland defeat all the more annoying. Great first half of the season though if we can replicate that with most of the tough teams at home I fancy 4th

Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Craig_1878 on December 29, 2013, 09:29:22 PM
Massive win that. Was really impressed with Alcaraz as well, looks so composed on the ball.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blueToffee on December 29, 2013, 09:30:04 PM
Exactly what was needed. Rode our luck a bit, perhaps had that little bit of fortune we lacked in the last game.

Credit to Naismith, no flair but worked hard for the win and won lots of headers. We needed that sort of effort today.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: stirlingblue on December 29, 2013, 09:30:07 PM
Thanks fuck for that.  And thank fuck Barry and Howard are back next game

Isn't Howard 3 games for a straight red?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Danny on December 29, 2013, 09:30:11 PM
I don't get all the fuss about Lalluna or whatever his stupid name is.

Supports us doesn't he.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 09:31:12 PM
Isn't Howard 3 games for a straight red?

No, because it wasn't a violent offence he was sent off for.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Toddacelli on December 29, 2013, 09:31:13 PM
Made up with that win, knew it wouldnt be a game of sublime football and we adjusted very well, maybe why Naismith started? Martinez knew we wouldnt have the space to play our way. Very happy with 3 points and sometimes you just have to play scrappy!

Good point this.

Could have been a master-stroke by Martinez having players like McCarthy, Naismith and Oviedo in midfield who will chase down and compete for everything. Must've known how Southampton would have to set up to play against us and reacted accordingly with the players available.

In Bobby we trust!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Glory on December 29, 2013, 09:31:13 PM
Really didn't appreciate how good Southampton have been this season until today.

Very happy with the three points, especially considering our make-shift lineup coupled with the fact that we didn't play our best today.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 09:32:06 PM
Supports us doesn't he.

Not that it makes any difference, but I think he supports the red shite. I don't get the fuss about him. Clearly not an international player.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: chesterblue on December 29, 2013, 09:32:27 PM
Tough game that, Southampton were class and seemed first to everything. Positively for me we have players who can change a game.. Coleman with a touch of class and Lukaku with his emphatic finish.... McCarthy was class today though, a real heartbeat MOM with Alcaraz impressing me. Ross did great as usual and Osman put in a good shift today. Negative was Naismith, we were a player short all game due to him being completely anon....waste of space and luckily his appearance didn't cost us today....needs to be sold. Happy toffee today though, on we march.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: pjk on December 29, 2013, 09:32:29 PM
Isn't Howard 3 games for a straight red?



I think that's only for dangerous play?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Danny on December 29, 2013, 09:32:31 PM
Went out on Christmas eve and some random Liverpool fan screams down my ear "LIVERPOOL TOP OF THE LEAGUE".

Current position: 5th.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: charlatan on December 29, 2013, 09:32:33 PM
Isn't Howard 3 games for a straight red?

No, 1 game.  Only 3 games for violent conduct
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 09:33:10 PM
Really didn't appreciate how good Southampton have been this season until today.

Very happy with the three points, especially considering our make-shift lineup coupled with the fact that we didn't play our best today.

Same here. I knew they pressed well, but thought they were going off the boil. Stopped us playing, so we had to win ugly (albeit with another two exceptional goals).
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 29, 2013, 09:33:35 PM
I havent shat myself so much during a game for ages. Southampton are a very good hard working side that pressed us high all game and didnt allow us to really play out from the back. A very nervy but ultimately satisfying win.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 29, 2013, 09:33:41 PM
Lallana is an Everton fan and has had an excellent season. Their main threats are Rodriguez, Lallana and Lambert and we didn't give them a sniff today.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 09:34:20 PM
Lallana is an Everton fan and has had an excellent season. Their main threats are Rodriguez, Lallana and Lambert and we didn't give them a sniff today.

Thought the commentators said he was redshite?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Trowel on December 29, 2013, 09:34:43 PM
Wonder if that seals manager of the month for Martinez.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Amata on December 29, 2013, 09:35:04 PM
Brilliant response to the Sunderland loss, not the best games by us but 3 points in the bag. We cant be excellent every game and to have 2 of our best players out and pick up a win against a very good Southampton side is impressive.

Barry, Howard and hopefully Jags back for the next game although Alcaraz was excellent today.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: dunkster on December 29, 2013, 09:35:35 PM
lallana was clean through but snatched at his shot. really nervy performance playing the ball out of defense today.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: hill135 on December 29, 2013, 09:36:00 PM
I havent shat myself so much during a game for ages. Southampton are a very good hard working side that pressed us high all game and didnt allow us to really play out from the back. A very nervy but ultimately satisfying win.

I don't know why more teams don't come and press us high rather than parking the bus. We're still learning how to play out from the back and we can be got at that way. Southampton stopped us playing better than anyone this season.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 29, 2013, 09:36:26 PM
Thought the commentators said he was redshite?
Lambert is.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Zoolander on December 29, 2013, 09:36:51 PM
So Stoke up next
and may I just say that Mark Hughes is a proper cunt.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 09:37:36 PM
Lambert is.

Ah ok.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 29, 2013, 09:37:44 PM
I don't trust Robles. Not just the goal but his kicking is wank.

Naismith had a good game won the majority of his headers and works like fuck. Still can't be playing him all the time lacks ability on the ball.

All in all I think that was a smash and grab by us we were shite. Barry is so important.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Polledreng on December 29, 2013, 09:38:22 PM
Thought the commentators said he was redshite?
The probably did - commentators often don't know shit
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Toddacelli on December 29, 2013, 09:38:24 PM
Lambert is.

Lambert is a horrible, horrible redshite bastard.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Danny on December 29, 2013, 09:39:10 PM
Thought the commentators said he was redshite?

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/lallana-looks-to-toffees-visit-611785.aspx (http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/lallana-looks-to-toffees-visit-611785.aspx)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 29, 2013, 09:39:13 PM
Even if we did play absolutely shite (which we didnt at all) we got 3 points and to not be our best but keep getting 3 points, well isnt that what all the "top" teams do each season?

Cant wait till the next one now.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Zoolander on December 29, 2013, 09:39:31 PM
Really hope that goal gives Lukaku his confidence back, he'd not had a sniff but after blasting that in came close twice shortly after.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sir Stealth on December 29, 2013, 09:40:34 PM
Made up with that. Great win despite me having the worst seat in the entire ground!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Cuttyblue on December 29, 2013, 09:40:34 PM
Today highlighted how important Pienaar is.

Absolutely right Ram.

A few complainers posting about Pienaar over the last month.  Whatever his shortcomings, he continues to be our best source of the killer pass.

Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 09:40:39 PM
We played better against Sunderland and lost, so I'm made up we beat Southampton by not playing so well. And with a very weakened team.

We're in an excellent position and hopefully Chelsea will trounce the shite and smash their confidence.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 09:41:58 PM

Moaning? Right. I call it giving a fuck tbh in my own little way but fair enough.

No honestly, it was moaning. We knew before the game that they would press us and try to stop us passing, that coupled with players that haven't played much recently it was always going to be difficult. They had two shots on target, one of which the keeper should have done better but it was still a great hit.

We didn't play like "twats for 90 minutes" we did what we had to to win a game, which was win ugly. We'll get games like this, and it's how we adapt to that and the result that matters.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Glory on December 29, 2013, 09:42:55 PM
All this talk of us being shite... Pack it the fuck in.

We weren't at our best, but using the term 'smash and grab' is a joke.

We created the better chances and had more impetus when the game needed it. For all their pressing and possession they certainly did a lot of fuck all with it.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Bluedylan on December 29, 2013, 09:44:08 PM
I don't trust Robles. Not just the goal but his kicking is wank.

Naismith had a good game won the majority of his headers and works like fuck. Still can't be playing him all the time lacks ability on the ball.

All in all I think that was a smash and grab by us we were shite. Barry is so important.

Apart from the win, the best discovery today has been realising that I haven't 'tooled' you for the last 12 hours.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 29, 2013, 09:44:17 PM
 lolol
Even if we did play absolutely shite (which we didnt at all) we got 3 points and to not be our best but keep getting 3 points, well isnt that what all the "top" teams do each season?

Cant wait till the next one now.

What game were you watching? Yes we won fantastic. But we were shite. A better side would have turned us over today.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: duncandisorderly on December 29, 2013, 09:45:09 PM
Great result, tough game but we had the better chances throughout, with half our first 11 out too, Alcatraz was surprisingly good, McCarthy mom

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Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 29, 2013, 09:45:13 PM
We had a team which included Joel, Alcaraz (Debut), Osman, Naismith and Oviedo. All decent squad players that you'd like to do a job when needed but for all 5 to play and for us to win is excellent.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 29, 2013, 09:45:50 PM
Apart from the win, the best discovery today has been realising that I haven't 'tooled' you for the last 12 hours.

Thanks bob
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 09:45:56 PM
lolol
What game were you watching? Yes we won fantastic. But we were shite. A better side would have turned us over today.

It was reminiscent of the Spurs game. They stopped us playing for sure, but they created very little either.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: American Evertonian on December 29, 2013, 09:45:56 PM
At the end of the match it was also nice to see our next 6 league games. Can't recall who they all were, but we are putting ourselves in a great position for CL if we can win the ones we are supposed to in the next 6 weeks.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: dazfrancis on December 29, 2013, 09:46:02 PM
I don't know why more teams don't come and press us high rather than parking the bus. We're still learning how to play out from the back and we can be got at that way. Southampton stopped us playing better than anyone this season.

This is a very good win, against a team that is more than capable of beating any of the top teams.

I was really worried about today's game against a very good pressing team, we have looked vulnerable when not given much time. With Barry also being out I thought we would be under the cosh as he is the calmest head in our midfield and is able to drop his shoulder, send the defender one way and calmly play the ball in the other direction. We certainly missed him today but McCarthy played really well, and covered lots of ground defensively. Alcaraz also played excellently given it was his first game (of the season?).

Lukaku did what we got him in to do, that was a top class finish. His hold up play improved a lot today as well. Once he got his goal, you could see the confidence flowing back also.

Special mention to Coleman who keeps on getting better and better.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Brownie on December 29, 2013, 09:48:25 PM
lolol
What game were you watching? Yes we won fantastic. But we were shite. A better side would have turned us over today.

I'm expecting some depressed as fuck thread from you tomorrow - you know to keep you consistent ;-)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 09:48:36 PM
Terrible line-up

Now that I think about it, can I request that you carry on these prophecies of doom and negativity, it seems to work. That's at least couple of times you've shot yourself in the foot.

What a shit midfield

 ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Bluedylan on December 29, 2013, 09:48:49 PM
Can't overstate how big a win that was for us. Any kind of win. They will make better teams than us looks bang average. If we'd drawn or lost today, things can derail very quickly (like it did with them a bit). Suddenly Stoke away becomes much harder, and everything can quickly start going wrong.

Might not have been pretty, but to beat them with a lot of squad players, is fucking huge. Loads of spirit there, and really clinical when we needed to be.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Redartin on December 29, 2013, 09:48:58 PM
Wonder if that seals manager of the month for Martinez.

It should do saying as a lot of the rest are being sacked or on the verge of being sacked. Probably go to Brenda though as the RS get everything else handed to them.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Toddacelli on December 29, 2013, 09:49:59 PM
Tactical genius by Martinez I think.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Tony Clifton on December 29, 2013, 09:50:04 PM
lolol
What game were you watching? Yes we won fantastic. But we were shite. A better side would have turned us over today.

You're shite.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 29, 2013, 09:50:20 PM
It was reminiscent of the Spurs game. They stopped us playing for sure, but they created very little either.

What I learnt today is with our squad players we will struggle.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Glory on December 29, 2013, 09:51:38 PM
What I learnt today is with our squad players we will struggle.
Like any other team?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 29, 2013, 09:51:56 PM
lolol
What game were you watching? Yes we won fantastic. But we were shite. A better side would have turned us over today.

Who cares? We won, we got 3 points...
We didnt play the most tantalising football because we knew we wouldnt be allowed to play that way by a very good Southampton team. So we adjusted to the opposition and played a less attractive game but a game which worked and got us the win. I dont see the problem with that?
If we played our flowing attractive stuff we would have been beat because Southampton could have taken advantage of the space.

Why do some people just like to fucking moan constantly? Just enjoy supporting Everton, we can play some beautiful stuff against some teams and we can fight a scrap and still come out on top. Im loving watching us at the moment.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 09:52:04 PM
What I learnt today is with our squad players we will struggle.

yeah, if we keep winning with a below-parr team then we're really in the shit
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Shogun on December 29, 2013, 09:52:41 PM
Man City rotated their squad against Palace and just won 1-0


Must be shite,
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Danny on December 29, 2013, 09:53:20 PM
yeah, if we keep winning with a below-parr team then we're really in the shit

If things keep going as badly as this we'll be top by February.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sir Stealth on December 29, 2013, 09:53:34 PM
Impressed with Alcaraz. I actually thought we played quite well

No better right back then ours
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2013, 09:54:15 PM
If things keep going as badly as this we'll be top by February.

disaster that
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Bluedylan on December 29, 2013, 09:54:16 PM
Who cares? We won, we got 3 points...
We didnt play the most tantalising football because we knew we wouldnt be allowed to play that way by a very good Southampton team. So we adjusted to the opposition and played a less attractive game but a game which worked and got us the win. I dont see the problem with that?
If we played our flowing attractive stuff we would have been beat because Southampton could have taken advantage of the space.

Why do some people just like to fucking moan constantly? Just enjoy supporting Everton, we can play some beautiful stuff against some teams and we can fight a scrap and still come out on top. Im loving watching us at the moment.

Well said Lizz. And people were worried about Martinez being too pretty but not able to get the tough wins when we're under the cosh.

Sozzled, lad, you almost sound disappointed that we won, so you couldn't have a proper moan. Tit.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 29, 2013, 09:56:57 PM
What I learned today that RM is still the best manager in the league and not to count Lukaku out.

And leave Naisy the fuck alone. Always puts in a shift when called upon.

I'm done. Ales waiting. Chill like.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Redartin on December 29, 2013, 09:58:29 PM
What I learnt today is with our squad players we will struggle.

It's a bad day if you don't learn something, and you seem to be having a bad day, we won ffs.
Smile!
Your face will not crack, honest
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Thom on December 29, 2013, 09:58:29 PM
This match was the one I was least looking forward to after the United/Arsenal double header, and it was clear to see why. Southampton are a well disciplined, attacking side who gave us a few scares out there today.

Still, two great goals earned us a much needed win to keep up with those ahead of us. I thought Alcaraz played well considering it was his first start, and once again Coleman, Barkley and McCarthy underlined their importance to us with mature performances.

Happy New Year all!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 29, 2013, 09:59:32 PM
Oh, and come on Chelsea...........
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 10:01:56 PM
Quote
MANAGER REACTION - Everton 2-1 Southampton
Everton manager Roberto Martinez: "It was a completely different test to the one we had on Boxing Day. Southampton are a very good side and we knew that and we had to be perfect in our performance and the two goals were of outstanding quality.

"To see the way we got the winning goal was very satisfying and the nature of the victory was also pleasing considering the players we had out.

"We defended well and had real concentration which we needed against Southampton

"There was nothing Joel Robles could do. The swerve in that ball from Gaston Ramirez he made it impossible for him
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 29, 2013, 10:05:26 PM
Well said Lizz. And people were worried about Martinez being too pretty but not able to get the tough wins when we're under the cosh.

Sozzled, lad, you almost sound disappointed that we won, so you couldn't have a proper moan. Tit.

Not dissapinted at all mate. I want to finish in the top 4 though and today made me relies if we don't have our strongest players on the field we will struggle. We were poor today. It's ok happy clapping but that is not a top 4 performance. We need everyone fit.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: hill135 on December 29, 2013, 10:06:38 PM
I don't normally like it when people say "it's all about results", but the truth is that it's very difficult to put together a good run of performances and results over this period of the season, with games in bad conditions coming thick and fast. So over the Christmas period we should take wins any way we can get them.

Today we had a lot of players out and others who haven't played very much, if at all, coming in. We were playing a side whose gameplan is very well suited to stopping ours. It's our third game in a week. And we've still won. Plus, Lukaku got back to scoring ways and Alcaraz showed what he's about and that he can make a big contribution.

I fail to see how anyone can be unhappy after that.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 29, 2013, 10:08:49 PM
Not dissapinted at all mate. I want to finish in the top 4 though and today made me relies if we don't have our strongest players on the field we will struggle. We were poor today. It's ok happy clapping but that is not a top 4 performance. We need everyone fit.

That goes for most squads, how many teams can make 5 enforced changes to a team and still play the way they usually do? Even City apparently looked poor against Palace and they have far better resources than us.

We're fourth, albeit possibly only for a couple of hours, but you'd honestly think we avoided dropping into a relegation place they way some people go on at times.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Bluedylan on December 29, 2013, 10:10:24 PM
Not dissapinted at all mate. I want to finish in the top 4 though and today made me relies if we don't have our strongest players on the field we will struggle. We were poor today. It's ok happy clapping but that is not a top 4 performance. We need everyone fit.

Haven't got the energy for this again, Sozzled. The Southampton pressing has taken it out of me.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 10:12:39 PM
Not dissapinted at all mate. I want to finish in the top 4 though and today made me relies if we don't have our strongest players on the field we will struggle. We were poor today. It's ok happy clapping but that is not a top 4 performance. We need everyone fit.

Players do get injured. They do get suspended. We had both hit us to important players at the same time. We put together a patchwork side, and still won against a very well organized Saints side. Sometimes you have to win ugly, and today we did. I'm happy that we've won while scoring two excellent goals.

Even City played an under strength side against Palace and scraped a win.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: DannyR on December 29, 2013, 10:16:44 PM
Brilliant game to watch, glad we took the 3 points from it, Robles maybe could of got it, but it was a well struck attempt. Lets just hope Chelsea can turn this around
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Confucius on December 29, 2013, 10:21:04 PM
Excellent win with half our team out. Not deserved but we didn't deserve to lose Boxing Day. Up to 4th and most likely stay there. McCarthy was a beast. MoM for me.
Notable shouts to coleman and thought Lukaku was very good today.

Oh and I love Alcaraz. 6 months out if not more, new team and comes in like he has all his life. So composed and controlled. Great in the air. Top top performance.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Bluedylan on December 29, 2013, 10:23:45 PM
Oh and I love Alcaraz. 6 months out if not more, new team and comes in like he has all his life. So composed and controlled. Great in the air. Top top performance.

Gotta be honest, only saw bits and pieces of him at Wigan, but now I can see why their fans raved about him. In the words of James McCarthy, the lad was 'different class'.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Brownie on December 29, 2013, 10:24:36 PM
Not dissapinted at all mate. I want to finish in the top 4 though and today made me relies if we don't have our strongest players on the field we will struggle. We were poor today. It's ok happy clapping but that is not a top 4 performance. We need everyone fit.

Shitting hell son you bore me. Have you ever played sport at a high level? I have and guess what? Sometimes you win games without playing well. Remembe, the opposing team are trying to win as well. It's not about happy clapping, it's about appreciating a hard fought win.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: School of Science on December 29, 2013, 10:30:24 PM
This game had bannana skin written all over it, one other thing our side has is character, bucket loads of it, sometimes 3 points means more than the performance, this was one of those games.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Confucius on December 29, 2013, 10:31:21 PM
Gotta be honest, only saw bits and pieces of him at Wigan, but now I can see why their fans raved about him. In the words of James McCarthy, the lad was 'different class'.

HAHA. He was
Title: Everton v Southampton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on December 29, 2013, 10:38:40 PM
Just got back to Manchester having a cup of tea then back to London.

Had a reasonable seat, like Si said had to twist neck a bit with some midfield play, but both goals clear so all good.

Enjoyed match tho we looked a bit on the ropes at times, we didn't stamp ourselves on their midfield too much but still looked dangerous when we put our mind to it.

Looked half asleep start if second half and was a little worried after their goal, but the lads showed bags of character to get out of the little hole we dug and great to see Lukaku get some proper service at last.

Southampton fans were pretty good, had a laugh with some of their songs about how quiet it was, and it was until 1-1.

Loved being back at Goodison, always good times. :)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 29, 2013, 10:39:32 PM
Shitting hell son you bore me. Have you ever played sport at a high level? I have and guess what? Sometimes you win games without playing well. Remembe, the opposing team are trying to win as well. It's not about happy clapping, it's about appreciating a hard fought win.

Have you played at high level mate? Wow tell me more....
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Silas on December 29, 2013, 10:41:14 PM
Haven't read the thread but thought Naismith did well, lunatic for a header and nice lay off for Coleman. Alcaraz looks the business but Robles scares the shit out of me. Oviedo is definitely a left back although Baines came in today and did well.

Patchy performance but thought overall we deserved the win
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 10:41:25 PM
Brownie, tell him.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Brownie on December 29, 2013, 10:43:07 PM
I can't be arsed mate. Basically I played semi-pro rugby up until a few years ago.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 29, 2013, 10:43:42 PM
Great pic Nomad! :)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: toffee_scot on December 29, 2013, 10:44:32 PM
Another 3pts in the bag and opportunity to be 4th at this half way point of the season! Can't complain.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: pjk on December 29, 2013, 10:50:04 PM
Jags is out for up to 4 weeks. That's bad news. But there is the positive of Alcaraz getting game time. I think he was quite impressive today.



http://t.co/GslBtt32Gz (http://t.co/GslBtt32Gz)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2013, 10:55:08 PM
Well, it gives Jags a 4 week rest then. Thankfully we have good defensive cover.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: toffee_scot on December 29, 2013, 10:57:23 PM
Jags is out for up to 4 weeks. That's bad news. But there is the positive of Alcaraz getting game time. I think he was quite impressive today.



http://t.co/GslBtt32Gz (http://t.co/GslBtt32Gz)

Shame about Jags, we have started to become unfortunate with injuries and suspensions lately, however it is encouraging to see we have a larger squad and it gives Alcaraz his opportunity to shine. Otherwise Stones and Heitinga are there for backup.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Polledreng on December 29, 2013, 11:01:39 PM
Great pic Nomad! :)
Liked the post in the middle. You can't help but love the old lady
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 11:08:58 PM
We weren't at all poor today.  But Southampton played out of their minds.  Very impressive team.  And we beat them, with about half our usual starters on the bench or inactive.

Completely made up for Boxing Day.  I'm fully enthused for Top 4 again.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 29, 2013, 11:22:20 PM
Liked the post in the middle. You can't help but love the old lady

Just adds to the magic of the place, i love it!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 29, 2013, 11:24:19 PM
We weren't at all poor today.  But Southampton played out of their minds.  Very impressive team.  And we beat them, with about half our usual starters on the bench or inactive.

Completely made up for Boxing Day.  I'm fully enthused for Top 4 again.

Isnt it funny how things can change so drastically game to game!!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 29, 2013, 11:42:15 PM
Isnt it funny how things can change so drastically game to game!!

The ups and downs of a long-assed Prem season!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Cuttyblue on December 29, 2013, 11:55:54 PM
Shite have lost, Singing the Blues!

What a great half season, way to go RM and players!

Have a great New Year Fellow Evertonians!  I'm buzzing!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Alfie Noakes on December 30, 2013, 12:00:54 AM
What a fantastic day.
Now I'm going to stare at the league table for a while  :hail:
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on December 30, 2013, 12:03:42 AM
Shite have lost, Singing the Blues!

What a great half season, way to go RM and players!

Have a great New Year Fellow Evertonians!  I'm buzzing!

I propose we coin the phrase "Shitenfreude."

Happy New Year, goodwill to all Blues!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 30, 2013, 12:07:56 AM
 Happy New Year Evertonians.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on December 30, 2013, 12:13:39 AM
What a great day and what a way to start the new year, in the top 4 ahead of the shite, yes today was similar to a number of performances so far this season where we have been poor (mainly in halfs) yet still picked up 3 points. To those that are moaning do you want Moyes back - sitting on one goal leads and ending up drawing (KITAP1). Cheer the fuck up and get behind Martinez and the boys, we're only going to get better come the second half of the season and he's bringing back the good times to EFC.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blueski on December 30, 2013, 12:32:30 AM
just got in and had to drop in and say that was a great game; a solid win against a very good team

like us pundits will try to dismiss southampton but they are a very good team capable of beating anyone in the league at the moment

to have the amount of changes and still come off with a win is a very good accomplishment for the squad

COYB!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Bally on December 30, 2013, 01:12:02 AM
I thought we were fucking atrocious today, overrun in midfield,  lacked bite up front and the keeper looked shaky .
Happy with the win but the performance was dire
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 30, 2013, 01:17:54 AM
I thought we were fucking atrocious today, overrun in midfield,  lacked bite up front and the keeper looked shaky .
Happy with the win but the performance was dire

Shaky is a compliment...............

He's like a shit Dickie Wright.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 30, 2013, 01:32:55 AM
Very very poor today,  made up with three points
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 30, 2013, 01:38:05 AM
Wasnt massively impressed today. We had 3 or 4 dreadfully careless passes that could have led to goals at the back, created very little and were just a little below par all over the pitch.

Having said that though Southampton probably created even less in terms of clear chances, we won and we did it with half the side missing.

Theres loads of teams in the race for top 4 this season but we are as good as anyone barring City. Think for us it will come down to the form of Barkley, Deulofeu and Lukaku. We are relying on them massively because they are easily our biggest 3 attacking talents but their form could differ wildly as the are all kids. If they fire we could finish 2nd. If not 6th or 7th
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 01:43:01 AM
I thought we were fucking atrocious today, overrun in midfield,  lacked bite up front and the keeper looked shaky .
Happy with the win but the performance was dire

Spot on Bally lad!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Eddie on December 30, 2013, 01:45:20 AM
Not the best performance today but I'll take 'shite' wins every week until may! Utd have won league after league doing it. Though Southampton were very good but lacked any real bite in the final third.

Not impressed with Robles at all. His distribution is dire and is a clanger waiting to happen IMO. Impressed with Alcatraz though, good defensively and calm on the ball.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Eddie on December 30, 2013, 01:46:13 AM
Spot on Bally lad!

No pleasing you is there?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 01:48:04 AM
Wasnt massively impressed today. We had 3 or 4 dreadfully careless passes that could have led to goals at the back, created very little and were just a little below par all over the pitch.

Having said that though Southampton probably created even less in terms of clear chances, we won and we did it with half the side missing.

Theres loads of teams in the race for top 4 this season but we are as good as anyone barring City. Think for us it will come down to the form of Barkley, Deulofeu and Lukaku. We are relying on them massively because they are easily our biggest 3 attacking talents but their form could differ wildly as the are all kids. If they fire we could finish 2nd. If not 6th or 7th

This team is as good as any in the league.

Howard

Coleman Jagielka Distin Baines

McCarthy Barry

Deulofeu Barkley Mirallas

Lukaku
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: everton1952 on December 30, 2013, 01:48:32 AM
Southampton were awful at the top end but totally dominated us in midfield. The big and predictable disappointment for me was the all too obvious wrecking of Oviedo's game by reintroducing Baines who himself had a very poor game, maybe he is very rusty. Oviedo got taken off when Baines should have come off.  I would make Oviedo 1st choice until performance dictates otherwise. As for the manager's decision to drop (rest) both Pienaar and Mirallas, it left us with no outlet until Pienaar came on in the 2nd half. We were robbed against Sunderland and fortunate today to win.   Lokaku ends a hero with a goal yet was mostly awful again today. Still, to play rather badly by our standards and still win can't be bad. The unenforced changes nearly made me doubt Martinez' judgement. Goodison was like a morgue, no excuse really although the team were poor. Maybe a bit of encouragement might help when we are clearly struggling. It is always quiet where I am in Upper Bullens, but vocal support from the two goal ends where you would expect vocal support was non-existent. 
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Cuttyblue on December 30, 2013, 01:58:10 AM
This team is as good as any in the league.

Howard

Coleman Jagielka Distin Baines

McCarthy Barry

Deulofeu Barkley Mirallas

Lukaku

No way you keep Mirallas in there above Pienaar, but otherwise you are spot on.  I look at our best XI and think they can beat any team, any day.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 01:59:56 AM
No way you keep Mirallas in there above Pienaar, but otherwise you are spot on.  I look at our best XI and think they can beat any team, any day.

Was hard to do leave Pienaar out because I think he's an important player. However Mirallas on form is top class. Shame he's been very mediocre the majority this season.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Eddie on December 30, 2013, 02:02:12 AM
Southampton were awful at the top end but totally dominated us in midfield. The big and predictable disappointment for me was the all too obvious wrecking of Oviedo's game by reintroducing Baines who himself had a very poor game, maybe he is very rusty. Oviedo got taken off when Baines should have come off.  I would make Oviedo 1st choice until performance dictates otherwise. As for the manager's decision to drop (rest) both Pienaar and Mirallas, it left us with no outlet until Pienaar came on in the 2nd half. We were robbed against Sunderland and fortunate today to win.   Lokaku ends a hero with a goal yet was mostly awful again today. Still, to play rather badly by our standards and still win can't be bad. The unenforced changes nearly made me doubt Martinez' judgement. Goodison was like a morgue, no excuse really although the team were poor. Maybe a bit of encouragement might help when we are clearly struggling. It is always quiet where I am in Upper Bullens, but vocal support from the two goal ends where you would expect vocal support was non-existent. 

I agree on the atmosphere which was shit. However an early kickoff on a Sunday against a small club is never going to get people going. That being said there's not much that actually does get Goodison going these days....that's not exclusive to Goodison though as all the pl regulars would've had a similar atmosphere to today.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 30, 2013, 02:03:13 AM
This team is as good as any in the league.

Howard

Coleman Jagielka Distin Baines

McCarthy Barry

Deulofeu Barkley Mirallas

Lukaku
bollocks
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 02:05:48 AM
Southampton were awful at the top end but totally dominated us in midfield. The big and predictable disappointment for me was the all too obvious wrecking of Oviedo's game by reintroducing Baines who himself had a very poor game, maybe he is very rusty. Oviedo got taken off when Baines should have come off.  I would make Oviedo 1st choice until performance dictates otherwise. As for the manager's decision to drop (rest) both Pienaar and Mirallas, it left us with no outlet until Pienaar came on in the 2nd half. We were robbed against Sunderland and fortunate today to win.   Lokaku ends a hero with a goal yet was mostly awful again today. Still, to play rather badly by our standards and still win can't be bad. The unenforced changes nearly made me doubt Martinez' judgement. Goodison was like a morgue, no excuse really although the team were poor. Maybe a bit of encouragement might help when we are clearly struggling. It is always quiet where I am in Upper Bullens, but vocal support from the two goal ends where you would expect vocal support was non-existent.

You can't criticise the team if we win here mate. The happy clappers don't like it. :clap:

You are right about Lukaku as well mate, he got his goal but didn't offer much at all.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Bluedylan on December 30, 2013, 02:07:57 AM
This team is as good as any in the league.

Howard

Coleman Jagielka Distin Baines

McCarthy Barry

Deulofeu Barkley Mirallas

Lukaku

Don't be ridiculous. For example, it's not even close to:

                             Hart
Zabaleta     Kompany    Nastasic       Clichy

Navas         Toure        Fernandinho   Silva

                Aguero
                                  Negredo
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 02:08:05 AM
bollocks

Why you being abusive mate?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2013, 02:09:11 AM
You can't criticise the team if we win here mate. The happy clappers don't like it. :clap:

You are right about Lukaku as well mate, he got his goal but didn't offer much at all.

Thought he was atrocious til he scored, but after that looked like he did at the start of the season.  Hopefully he can kick on from there
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Verm on December 30, 2013, 02:09:57 AM
Why you being abusive mate?

If you think that's abuse the internet isn't really for you.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 30, 2013, 02:11:06 AM
Why you being abusive mate?
no abuse pal, just think your statement is bollocks :-)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 02:11:21 AM
Don't be ridiculous. For example, it's not even close to:

                             Hart
Zabaleta     Kompany    Nastasic       Clichy

Navas         Toure        Fernandinho   Silva

                Aguero
                                  Negredo

But you're going on reputation and on paper. I'm going on what I've seen from both teams this season. Yes they beat us 3-1 but we didn't play our strongest side IMO and they are rolling teams at home. Be a different story at Goodison. Our first 11 is very very strong. City have been beat 4 times this season, they will win the league but they aren't streaks ahead of us.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 02:12:20 AM
no abuse pal, just think your statement is bollocks :-)

Thanks for clearing it up Pal.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Ross on December 30, 2013, 02:12:50 AM
If you think that's abuse the internet isn't really for you.

Bollocks Verm the internets for everyone...

especially those talking bollocks
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 30, 2013, 02:12:55 AM
Thanks for clearing it up Pal.
my pleasure
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Bluedylan on December 30, 2013, 02:13:39 AM
You're delusional if you think our first XI is close to City's on paper, on a football pitch, on ice, on anything.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 02:15:16 AM
You're delusional if you think our first XI is close to City's on paper, on a football pitch, on ice, on anything.

On paper they are easily better than us. On the pitch I think we'll beat them at a Goodison with a full squad.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Eddie on December 30, 2013, 02:16:57 AM
You can't criticise the team if we win here mate. The happy clappers don't like it. :clap:

You are right about Lukaku as well mate, he got his goal but didn't offer much at all.

No sozzled. There's being negative then there's picking holes in everything just for the sake of it, which is what you seem to do. We were poor today but I'm going to choose to dwell on the positives as I'm more than confident RM is as unhappy about the negatives as the rest of us...if you're expecting perfect football every game I suggest you start following melchester rovers as even Barcelona have their bad days.

4th place come the new year 5 points off top spot. We should be scraping you off the ceiling mate!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 30, 2013, 02:18:07 AM
As we have seen this year tho sozz anyone can beat anyone. City's squad, city's first 11 is far better than ours. They paid for it, paid a lot for it too
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: charlatan on December 30, 2013, 02:20:52 AM
4th place come the new year 5 points off top spot. We should be scraping you off the ceiling mate!

As opposed to scraping his posts off the bottom of yer shoes.

Fuck me, I'm as negative and pessimistic as Evertonians come (as most of the forum will agree), ok today we weren't fantastic, but compare the last 4 months to the last 5 or 6 year under Ginger Pubes?

I think the Doc needs to up Sozzled's meds.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 02:22:28 AM
No sozzled. There's being negative then there's picking holes in everything just for the sake of it, which is what you seem to do. We were poor today but I'm going to choose to dwell on the positives as I'm more than confident RM is as unhappy about the negatives as the rest of us...if you're expecting perfect football every game I suggest you start following melchester rovers as even Barcelona have their bad days.

4th place come the new year 5 points off top spot. We should be scraping you off the ceiling mate!

We were awful and very lucky to take 3 points. If that's what we are looking at until players are fit again we won't finish in the top 4. If we play shit I'll say. I'm not a happy clapper. A more prominent attacking team would have ripped us a new one. It was an ugly performance.

The only positives are Lukaku's goal and 3 points.

Thank fuck Barry & Howard are back on Wednesday.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 02:24:43 AM
As opposed to scraping his posts off the bottom of yer shoes.

Fuck me, I'm as negative and pessimistic as Evertonians come (as most of the forum will agree), ok today we weren't fantastic, but compare the last 4 months to the last 5 or 6 year under Ginger Pubes?

I think the Doc needs to up Sozzled's meds.

The last 4 months compared to the last 2 games are worlds apart mate. Before the last two games I was saying we could win it. A few injuries and we look top 6 contenders not top 4. This team can finish in the top four. That's the 11 best players!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 30, 2013, 02:26:09 AM
If we play shit and take 3 points with a side that has six players injured / banned / rested against a side causing problems to most teams then we need to be happy. Ffs it's all about winning. I am not saying don't say we played shite just don't dwell on it
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 02:29:25 AM
I think a bad injury to Howard and we'll slip down the league aswell. It's worrying how bad Robles is. From his kicking to shot stopping and catching. He's a dodgy keeper. Very worrying.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Bluedylan on December 30, 2013, 02:34:59 AM
You keep twoing and froing between 'we're as good as anyone on our day' and 'we were shit, there were hardly any positives today, without 'x' player we're going slip down the league'

Have you considered mood stabilisers?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 02:38:00 AM
You keep twoing and froing between 'we're as good as anyone on our day' and 'we were shit, there were hardly any positives today, without 'x' player we're going slip down the league'

Have you considered mood stabilisers?

Happy clapper  :clap:

If you read. You will see what I think of our best 11. We are class.

Outside of that I don't think we are very good. I think Oviedo and Osman are the only two players who benefit the first 11 as squad players if we are going to finish in a CL position
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 30, 2013, 02:40:03 AM
Happy clapper  :clap:

If you read. You will see what I think of our best 11. We are class.

Outside of that I don't think we are very good. I think Oviedo and Osman are the only two players who benefit the first 11 as squad players if we are going to finish in a CL position

Drop the happy clapper shit, it's getting boring now.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Bluedylan on December 30, 2013, 02:42:16 AM
Happy clapper  :clap:

If you read. You will see what I think of our best 11. We are class.

Outside of that I don't think we are very good. I think Oviedo and Osman are the only two players who benefit the first 11 as squad players if we are going to finish in a CL position

So given that you don't think our squad is very strong, and that a team absolutely needs to have a strong squad to finish Top 4, over the whole season, wouldn't it be sensible to have more realistic expectations about what we can achieve, rather than spouting this stream of consciousness drivel before and after every game?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Silas on December 30, 2013, 02:42:34 AM
I honestly don't think we were shite. Not great but not shite. It was a grafted win against a decent Southampton side that we kept quiet.  Some of our play was good, the two goals were evidence of that.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 02:47:37 AM
So given that you don't think our squad is very strong, and that a team absolutely needs to have a strong squad to finish Top 4, over the whole season, wouldn't it be sensible to have more realistic expectations about what we can achieve, rather than spouting this stream of consciousness drivel before and after every game?

Why is it drivel?

We weren't good. Robles is suspect and our squad isn't very good outside 14 players.

If you're happy with a finish outside the top 4 fine. For me this team is the best we've had in my lifetime this season is a very important one for keeping players and keeping up with cash rich clubs. I have a realistic view on things... If we can keep players fit we'll finish in the top 4.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 30, 2013, 03:06:15 AM
Pack it in now, just enjoy the 3 points and finishing 2013 in 4th place, so it wasnt the best performance, so what! It wasnt our strongest team and we just won a different way. Stop putting a bloody negative on it.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Silas on December 30, 2013, 03:09:57 AM
Pack it in now, just enjoy the 3 points and finishing 2013 in 4th place, so it wasnt the best performance, so what! It wasnt our strongest team and we just won a different way. Stop putting a bloody negative on it.

Being a silver lining kinda guy it beats the who shit in my glass way of life. I liked that we went about the game differently. We were more direct at times because we had to be given the team we had out and the way Southampton play. It was another sign that Martinez is adaptable, this team is adaptable and knows what it is doing. 

Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Silas on December 30, 2013, 03:11:15 AM
Why is it drivel?

We weren't good. Robles is suspect and our squad isn't very good outside 14 players.

If you're happy with a finish outside the top 4 fine. For me this team is the best we've had in my lifetime this season is a very important one for keeping players and keeping up with cash rich clubs. I have a realistic view on things... If we can keep players fit we'll finish in the top 4.

Robles is suspect but given the fact Howard misses like 1 game every few years it's hardly a concern. The man's a machine, by the time he retires Robles should be more than ready to replace him.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 03:14:45 AM
Pack it in now, just enjoy the 3 points and finishing 2013 in 4th place, so it wasnt the best performance, so what! It wasnt our strongest team and we just won a different way. Stop putting a bloody negative on it.

Finishing fourth in 2013 isn't anything to shout about. Come May if we're fourth I'll be happy.

I maintain if we keep:

The top 14 players in and out the team we'll finish in the top 4. If we don't I think we'll finish between 5th-8th and in the summer the squad will look thin. We'll need to spend money.

Hopefully this window we can bring a striker and central midfielder in.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Bluedylan on December 30, 2013, 03:15:32 AM
Agree with Silas. I actually took today as more of a positive, than we could get a result against a really good team, while having squad players playing and while not being fluent in possession.

I think going longer against Southampton is also a tactic that Chelsea and Villa used perfectly to bypass their pressing midfielders, and it showed a tactical adaptability to RM that many people accused him of not having.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Jimbo and the Jetset on December 30, 2013, 03:17:19 AM
I thought Southampton were possibly the best side we've played at Goodison so far this season so all in all, a decent 3 points.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 03:17:53 AM
Agree with Silas. I actually took today as more of a positive, than we could get a result against a really good team, while having squad players playing and while not being fluent in possession.

I think going longer against Southampton is also a tactic that Chelsea and Villa used perfectly to bypass their pressing midfielders, and it showed a tactical adaptability to RM that many people accused him of not having.

Southampton have won 1 in 8. They've had a hard run but they've shown they aren't a top 6 team. We should be beating them. They pressed us today because our midfield wasn't as strong as theirs.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 03:18:37 AM
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Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Bluedylan on December 30, 2013, 03:24:02 AM
Southampton have won 1 in 8. They've had a hard run but they've shown they aren't a top 6 team. We should be beating them. They pressed us today because our midfield wasn't as strong as theirs.

Have you watched Soton under Pochettino at all? They press in every game, it's their style. It does not change according to the midfield they are playing.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 03:25:26 AM
Have you watched Soton under Pochettino at all? They press in every game, it's their style. It does not change according to the midfield they are playing.

Yes and it's so effective they've won 1 game in 8. Our best midfield would not have been pressed like that today.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Brownie on December 30, 2013, 03:26:46 AM
Seriously sozz, you need to rein in this happy clapper shit. It makes you sound like a simpleton. Nearly everyone on here has acknowledged that we were not at our best today but are happy that we have come through a potential banana skin game with three points. The team faced adversity today and came through, that deserves to be applauded. You sound like your only experience of football/sport comes from having a controller in your hand and a certain game produced by EA Sports.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Ross on December 30, 2013, 03:27:11 AM
Southampton have won 1 in 8. They've had a hard run but they've shown they aren't a top 6 team. We should be beating them. They pressed us today because our midfield wasn't as strong as theirs.

Did we not beat them though? Whilst not playing well, and having a number of players injured, suspended and rested. Whats your point?

You want us to win when we play a less than strong first 11 and we did it, what the fuck more can we ask if as you say our squad isn't strong enough to win without out best 11 playing?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 03:33:08 AM
Seriously sozz, you need to rein in this happy clapper shit. It makes you sound like a simpleton. Nearly everyone on here has acknowledged that we were not at our best today but are happy that we have come through a potential banana skin game with three points. The team faced adversity today and came through, that deserves to be applauded. You sound like your only experience of football/sport comes from having a controller in your hand and a certain game produced by EA Sports.

Why do you keep referencing experience of sport? What has that got to do with anything? Are you an ex premier league footballer or something?

 We were crap and won't finish in the top 4 playing like that... Why is it wrong to think like that? and why does playing sport "at a high level" have any bearing on me being disappointed in the performance?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 03:34:32 AM
Did we not beat them though? Whilst not playing well, and having a number of players injured, suspended and rested. Whats your point?

You want us to win when we play a less than strong first 11 and we did it, what the fuck more can we ask if as you say our squad isn't strong enough to win without out best 11 playing?

But it's not that though is it.. People are happy with the performance. We were crap.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 03:35:37 AM
Why do you keep referencing experience of sport? What has that got to do with anything? Are you an ex premier league footballer or something?

 We were crap and won't finish in the top 4 playing like that... Why is it wrong to think like that? and why does playing sport "at a high level" have any bearing on me being disappointed in the performance? And having an opinion we were shite.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 30, 2013, 03:36:47 AM
But it's not that though is it.. People are happy with the performance. We were crap.
not seen many if any that are happy with the performance. See plenty happy with three points tho.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 30, 2013, 03:38:42 AM
We were crap and won't finish in the top 4 playing like that... Why is it wrong to think like that? and why does playing sport "at a high level" have any bearing on me being disappointed in the performance?

How many times have we been crap though, not that were as bad as that? Everyone has bad games, the good thing is when you have a bad day and still manage to grind out a win, that's what matters and that's the sign of a decent team. You really do have a simplistic view on things.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Gash on December 30, 2013, 03:40:23 AM
But it's not that though is it.. People are happy with the performance. We were crap.

People are happy with the result, as of the moment the final whistle went the performance is irrelevant and we move on to the next game.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blargins on December 30, 2013, 03:40:45 AM
So sozzled, you have many complaints, but I've not heard any solutions from you. What would you do?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Brownie on December 30, 2013, 03:42:10 AM
I'm referencing experience in sport because those who have been in the situation we are talking about would understand why you are getting so much grief. No I'm not an ex premier league football I'm an ex semi-pro rugby player. I have been in numerous games like today where we have win by not playing well. I've had coaches congratulate my team on winning but lambast us for not playing well and pro using we will work on it in training throughout the next week. You keep on saying people are happy with the performance and you keep belittling Southampton. Firstly, I can't see many people being cock-a-hoop about the performance and secondly, players (in my experience ) don't belittle and underestimate the opposition regardless of form, place in table etc. to do that is to prepare to lose. The only people who do tag are fans who have no experience of playing in these types of games. I've played in games where we have been expected to win by 50/60 points and been thankful to come off the pitch having won by less than a score
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 30, 2013, 03:43:33 AM
We know we wont finish 4th playing like that, who has said we will? We adapted our tactics due to opposition and the fact almost half our team were unable to play. We will probably only use this tactic in 3 games a season, the rest of it we will play the flowing, sometimes exquisite football we love to enjoy. We wont get it right every time, we will fuck up (sunderland match) but we are learning new techniques and new mentality and it will take time before we will build up a squad and maintain at peak constantly. If you cant see that then there is just no point discussing it; enjoy getting a win against a very good team and look forward to the next game when we get players back and they try to correct their failings in performance.

Im not expecting massive things this season and to be challenging for 4th right now is brilliant but we need to give the team time and no doubt with a couple of tweaks and new blood we will be a dominant force within the next 5 years, and so im going to enjoy this feeling!
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Brownie on December 30, 2013, 03:46:34 AM
Plus sozz, no one will be more disappointed than the players. They will know they under performed and will want to improve
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Everton Mint on December 30, 2013, 03:52:10 AM
Hats off to Senor Martinez for a fantastic 2013 at Everton ... deserves to be very happy and proud of his work here !

(http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Everton+v+Southampton+Premier+League+iECLo3YGFjEx.jpg)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 03:52:27 AM
So sozzled, you have many complaints, but I've not heard any solutions from you. What would you do?

There is no solutions we have to go with what we've got. The injuries have hit us hard. Especially at this very time Gibson and Kone.

The squad is so thin it worries me. The main bother is I know deep down that the first 11 plus Deulofeu are as good as anyone fighting for those 4 places. Unfortunately out squad and what's left of it could drop dramatically.

It's frustration more than anything.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Brownie on December 30, 2013, 03:56:11 AM
There is no solutions we have to go with what we've got. The injuries have hit us hard. Especially at this very time Gibson and Kone.

The squad is so thin it worries me. The main bother is I know deep down that the first 11 plus Deulofeu are as good as anyone fighting for those 4 places. Unfortunately out squad and what's left of it could drop dramatically.

It's frustration more than anything.

Yeah those injuries have hit us hard with our losing streak of how many games? Oh wait.

You are making yourself look a bit silly now fella. Lighten up, go have a hot chocolate or some other soothing drink and look forward to the next game
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: blueski on December 30, 2013, 03:56:14 AM
Isn't that football though? Injuries to key players can affect any teams chances. There isn't a single side in the league where an injury to one or two key players wouldn't have a big effect
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 03:57:19 AM
Isn't that football though? Injuries to key players can affect any teams chances. There isn't a single side in the league where an injury to one or two key players wouldn't have a big effect

Always seems to happen to Everton though. Thin squads.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 03:58:49 AM
Yeah those injuries have hit us hard with our losing streak of how many games? Oh wait.

You are making yourself look a bit silly now fella. Lighten up, go have a hot chocolate or some other soothing drink and look forward to the next game

We'll drop points playing that team today. No doubt about it. It's the first time all season we've looked suspect.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Brownie on December 30, 2013, 04:03:42 AM
I hate ragging on fellow blues but you give me the impression that if you went out on a night with the boys, pulled a really fit bird, took her home, did the deed the next day you would sy "Well, she didnt do anal and didnt look like Megan Fox so I'm disappointed."
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 30, 2013, 04:05:11 AM
But Barry and Howard are back next game, 2 of the most calming dominating influences in our team. Chill out mate, like Brownie said, have a hot chocolate or something and enjoy the end of the year, some massive changes have happened and even though we had our worries it all seems to have been for the best :) :hug:
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 04:06:18 AM
But Barry and Howard are back next game, 2 of the most calming dominating influences in our team. Chill out mate, like Brownie said, have a hot chocolate or something and enjoy the end of the year, some massive changes have happened and even though we had our worries it all seems to have been for the best :) :hug:

Yeh suppose you're right. Just desperate for us to get in those top 4 places.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Brownie on December 30, 2013, 04:07:57 AM
We all are mate, me as much as anyone. Out of interest how old are you? Have you experience any glory as an Everton fan?
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 04:08:13 AM
I hate ragging on fellow blues but you give me the impression that if you went out on a night with the boys, pulled a really fit bird, took her home, did the deed the next day you would sy "Well, she didnt do anal and didnt look like Megan Fox so I'm disappointed."

Hahahaha probably right.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 04:08:57 AM
We all are mate, me as much as anyone. Out of interest how old are you? Have you experience any glory as an Everton fan?

Am 25 mate. Seen the FA Cup as a 7 year old that's it.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 30, 2013, 04:10:55 AM
Yeh suppose you're right. Just desperate for us to get in those top 4 places.

Me too! We need to finally wash away that taste of last time we got there and were cheated, and i have no doubt the team we have now can do well in the competition. Especially with the money bonus and the magical pull of our manager for certain prospects.

We just have to accept it isnt going to happen right away and we need to build the squad slowly due to funds, so when we inevitably lose players to injuries/suspensions the team isnt going to be as good as the first 11. Thats why people are so upbeat about the win regardless of performance, because we STILL beat a very good team with a lesser line up.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Brownie on December 30, 2013, 04:11:51 AM
Ah love you. No wonder you are so passionate. What will be will be son, you can't influence it, so just enjoy each game as it comes
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 30, 2013, 04:14:25 AM
Am 25 mate. Seen the FA Cup as a 7 year old that's it.

Im 25 as well, so i understand that frustrating craving to see the glory days in the flesh! And it is coming, we just need to be patient and understand that we will slip up along the way.

And to recognise that a poor performance isnt a slip up when we get the 3 points ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Eddie on December 30, 2013, 04:14:42 AM
Sozzled, if we got 4th I have a funny feeling you'd be moaning we didn't get 3rd! You keep going on about our performance which is irrelevant now the match is finished. What is relevant is the 3 points we added to our total.

We have been below par in a few of our wins this season and I for one couldn't care less. Do everyone a favour and stop predicting everton defeats based on past performances too, you have no idea what our future results will be...unless you're prepared to give us next weeks lottery numbers in this crystal ball of yours stop stating 'if we play like that we'll get beat' as if it's fact.
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: DannyR on December 30, 2013, 04:19:52 AM
Looks like Seamus scored twice, One on the pitch and one off the pitch, he got engaged to his girlfriend who he's been with since school
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 04:26:57 AM
Sozzled, if we got 4th I have a funny feeling you'd be moaning we didn't get 3rd! You keep going on about our performance which is irrelevant now the match is finished. What is relevant is the 3 points we added to our total.

We have been below par in a few of our wins this season and I for one couldn't care less. Do everyone a favour and stop predicting everton defeats based on past performances too, you have no idea what our future results will be...unless you're prepared to give us next weeks lottery numbers in this crystal ball of yours stop stating 'if we play like that we'll get beat' as if it's fact.

Nil Satis Nisi Optimum
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 30, 2013, 04:48:17 AM
But it's not that though is it.. People are happy with the performance. We were crap.

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Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: ihatecollina on December 30, 2013, 06:44:14 AM
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ssshhh, sozzled is about to talk....
Title: Re: Everton v Southampton
Post by: Sozzled on December 30, 2013, 07:16:45 AM
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ssshhh, sozzled is about to talk....

Lovely self portrait mate  :thumbsup: