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Title: World Cup 2014
Post by: Simon Paul on April 14, 2014, 03:25:06 AM
All in here ladies and gents

It's getting closer, it must be, as I got my Panini sticker album today (first one in over 20 years!) although I may very well give that to my nephew

So, who do we think will win it?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Analog Kid on April 14, 2014, 03:37:55 AM
We got Analog junior one, 50p a pack of stickers, bastards!!

You got any swaps??

Going for Italy myself, Belgium as a dark horse.

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on April 14, 2014, 03:40:19 AM
We got Analog junior one, 50p a pack of stickers, bastards!!

You got any swaps??

Going for Italy myself, Belgium as a dark horse.



Shit man I remember when it was 6p per pack for my Premier League 94/95 book.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Simon Paul on April 14, 2014, 03:48:09 AM
We got Analog junior one, 50p a pack of stickers, bastards!!

You got any swaps??

Going for Italy myself, Belgium as a dark horse.



and the stickers are well smaller aren't they?

and they don't have any info about the player on them either

I'm pretty sure almost everything I knew about the world outside the UK before I was 14 came from sticker albums for the World Cup, so wanted to let my nephew have that experience too.  There's barely anything in this!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Analog Kid on April 14, 2014, 03:57:49 AM
I remember having the World Cup '82 book.

My first, and favourite, World Cup.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ell Capitan on April 14, 2014, 04:01:36 AM
Spain at 6-1 seems like a very good bet to me.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on April 14, 2014, 04:16:11 AM
Me and some mates did a sweepstakes. There isn't 32 of us so we divided the teams between us. Not an ideal way to do it but in my group I've got Brazil and Spain. Feeling confident that those winnings have my name on them.

My favourites would be Brazil, Argentina, Spain and Italy. Think Germany will let a lot of people down.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: dangermouse on April 14, 2014, 04:30:24 AM
Started my panini sticker album yesterday. .. going to give it a few weeks n then just buy the remaining ticketd... cant be assed collecting doubles. ...
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: BrotherEstapol on April 14, 2014, 06:09:28 AM
Won't be Australia that's for sure...can't see the Dutch or Spanish not getting out of the group stage.

Most interested in seeing how Belgium go though. Wondering they'll get their shit together.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on April 14, 2014, 06:12:14 AM
Argentina will win it.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on April 14, 2014, 06:31:42 AM
Really hope England do well. Not sure why but want then to win it. I really think they can if Roy can embrace attacking football.

Would also be wonderful for Gerrard to win the EPL and World Cup in the same year before he does of a lethal injection of moose piss
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Thornton_19 on April 14, 2014, 07:02:15 AM
Think Argentina will win it, all great players seem to have 'That World Cup' and i think this one will be Messi's world cup.

In January I'm sure the Italy coach said he was considering asking Totti out of retirement, Totti plus Balotelli up top is just goals goals goals so along with Belgium they're my dark horse for the tournament.

I honestly don't think England will do well this year, they will blame the heat and the long tough Premier League season and say winter break a few times before we all realise that we are a team of hype and nothing more.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on April 14, 2014, 07:42:14 AM
What would be well for England?

I think getting out the group would be an achievement. Fancy Italy to top the group, don't think Uruguay are that good myself but have the advantage of being South American.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Thornton_19 on April 14, 2014, 10:16:37 AM
What would be well for England?

I think getting out the group would be an achievement. Fancy Italy to top the group, don't think Uruguay are that good myself but have the advantage of being South American.

Its a tough question because Quarter Finals should always be the minimum requirement, but i just think this generation of players are really average. I think England will get out the group but it will not be convincing.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on April 14, 2014, 05:23:27 PM
Thing is, England in the past have had what looks like a good team on paper, yet never did anything.

This team looks awful, but because of that, the sum of the parts might be greater than the sum of the parts. Or whatever that saying is.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Silas on April 14, 2014, 06:21:39 PM
Belgium to crash out early doors is my bet, they aren't as good as they should be
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: NomadskiEFC on April 14, 2014, 07:09:01 PM
Belgium to crash out early doors is my bet, they aren't as good as they should be

Aye, would love to see them do well but maybe wrong world cup, wrong time for them.  Same with most Euro teams.  I strongly reckon it will either be Brazil or Argentina.

My '86 Paninini Sticker Album had only a couple of teams incomplete. Should have sent the form off for the last few but kept forgetting. Same in '94.

Hopefully we will see a grainy picture and hear some nice distorted commentary, just like all faraway WC's should be. Fekkin digitial.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: BrotherEstapol on April 15, 2014, 08:17:29 AM
Hopefully we will see a grainy picture and hear some nice distorted commentary, just like all faraway WC's should be. Fekkin digitial.
We'll probably have that here in Australia. SBS's idea of HD is fucking deplorable. It's only 576p and it's compressed to fuck...South Africa looked like dog shit.

Hopefully they get their shit together this year.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: JonnyII on April 15, 2014, 10:59:10 PM
been saying for quite some time i fancied Chile to win it. They play fantastic football and wont be affected as much by the humidity etc, but i think im being a bit optimistic there although i think they'll have a great tournament.

Of the European countries i fancy Germany because of their strength in depth, Spain may acclimatise better than most..

Ultimately i feel it will come down to either Brazil or Argentina. And im going to side with the argies, purely because i want to see Messi win it and book himself in as the best ever.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: jongre123 on April 15, 2014, 11:08:17 PM
England to win beating portugal in the final
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on April 15, 2014, 11:22:39 PM
Ah this takes me back... Quality racial stereotyping too..

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/PANINI-FOOTBALL-87-290-1986-WORLD-CUP-MASCOT-PIQUE-SILVER-FOIL-/00/s/NTUyWDQyMA==/z/-10AAOxyjxlTKYZh/$_12.JPG)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 15, 2014, 11:23:34 PM
Ah this takes me back... Quality racial stereotyping too..

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/PANINI-FOOTBALL-87-290-1986-WORLD-CUP-MASCOT-PIQUE-SILVER-FOIL-/00/s/NTUyWDQyMA==/z/-10AAOxyjxlTKYZh/$_12.JPG)
first one I really remember
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Trowel on April 16, 2014, 02:52:01 AM
Roberto's thoughts:

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/y=2014/m=4/news=martinez-european-sides-face-battle-in-brazil-2319237.html (http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/y=2014/m=4/news=martinez-european-sides-face-battle-in-brazil-2319237.html)


Martinez: European sides face battle in Brazil

After leading Wigan Athletic to an unlikely FA Cup win over Manchester City last year, Roberto Martinez moved along the M58 motorway in England to take up a position at Everton, a team who have won the league title nine times. He replaced Manchester United-bound David Moyes and has so far been a success at the ‘School of Science’. With five games of the season remaining, the Toffees currently lie in fourth place in the table and are therefore on the cusp of a place in next season's UEFA Champions League.

However, it was solely on the subject of the FIFA World Cup™ that FIFA.com chatted to the Blues boss recently. In an enlightening and exclusive interview with the Official Website of Brazil 2014, the Spaniard explained how Mexico 1986 stimulated his tactical awareness, why South American sides are more likely to succeed than those from Europe and what a World Cup in Brazil will bring.

FIFA.com: You would have been about eight years old during Spain 1982. Was that the first World Cup you remember?
Roberto Martinez: It was. I think it’s more the preparations. Spain as a country in the early 80’s was a really good period for the country. It was a real celebration. I have great memories of those six or seven months, pre-tournament, especially after the mascot Naranjito was introduced!

As a young boy you could feel the excitement and everyone got excited about the prospect of winning the World Cup. Obviously during the tournament it was a real disappointment when Spain started losing, but I have great memories of what a big event it was. Now whenever a World Cup comes around I’m eager to try to watch the tournament and how it’s been prepared, and what it means to the country.

What was the first World Cup you remember taking a more tactical interest in?
I think it’s fair to say ’86 was the one I will always remember. I would watch every game with my dad. We would go into detail and wonder, ‘How could you stop Maradona?’ It was the first time we started to look at the game and having discussions about how you could stop someone with his talent, but also how could you take advantage of a player like him. It was incredible to witness how a team relied so much on one individual, but also how that individual produced a level of performance to take his nation into a World Cup Final and to win it. That was quite incredible.

Have you had the opportunity to travel to any of the previous World Cups?
Yes, and I have to say that I really enjoyed South Africa 2010. I had the opportunity to stay for the whole tournament. I’ve been to many games at other World Cups and I always wanted to stay the whole tournament and follow the preparation of some of the sides. I did that in South Africa and it was incredible to see how the country embraced being in the eyes of the world for a month, and what it represented for everyone there and then what the football brought. It was an incredible tournament.

If you were to pick out one game from South Africa 2010, what would it be and why?
It would have to be Argentina-Mexico. It was in Soccer City and it was fascinating pre-game to see Diego Maradona – one of the biggest names in the history of the World Cup, being a manager of a team with incredible talent. And then they came up against a very good side in Mexico.

You mentioned seeing teams’ tactical preparations. Who were you able to get an insight to?
I tried to follow a team from each continent. I followed Paraguay for a few weeks when they were working in different areas. I saw the preparation of Netherlands as a European side and then I saw Ghana from Africa. It was fascinating to see how the players saw the opportunity to play in a World Cup in a very different manner and how they prepared for the games. Some squads were sharing rooms, some were in individual rooms and others were having up to three players in each room! It was a completely different environment in each hotel and I think it reflected in the way that they played. It was very different to observe the way players approached playing for their countries when they are from South America as opposed to Europe.

What are the main differences?
Most of the big players in South America come to Europe to play and therefore there’s a special affinity when you represent your country. You bring your background; your family and everything you represent onto a football pitch. I think in Europe representing your country is a great feeling. It’s still a great opportunity for a footballer, but I think many people would tell you that playing in the Champions League is as good a feeling. And I think that is evident in the way that the teams approach World Cups. That’s why it will be fascinating in Brazil to see how a European side can match the enthusiasm and that desire of a South American side to be involved in a World Cup.

What is the biggest challenge to a European team succeeding at Brazil 2014? Is it mental or more tactical?
Both. I think it’s a real combination. First, as a European team to be able to adapt to the conditions - the conditions of the pitch and the climate - it’s very different and it takes a lot to get used pushing yourself under those conditions, so physically you’ll be affected. Tactically, it’s a very difficult way of playing the game. It seems South American sides are quite happy to go man-marking all over the park and they are happy with those one-on-one situations, rather than relying on systems and being a bit more zonal and organised. And third is what I said earlier; the meaning of representing a South American side in a World Cup is, at the moment, much stronger than for a European player representing his nation.

Last summer you covered the FIFA Confederations Cup for ESPN. What were your impressions of that tournament?
Teams had to adapt to the conditions of the country and Brazil had to be the team who were favourites to win it because of the support they received. I thought it was the best Confederations Cup I’ve seen due to the fact that the European sides, Italy and Spain, they had a real desire to win it. The competition was very impressive. I do think it gave us a little taste of what this World Cup is going to be. I think it’s going to be the best World Cup ever because of the connotations of playing a World Cup in Brazil. It will be great for me to witness it at first-hand this time around too!

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: NomadskiEFC on April 17, 2014, 05:15:40 AM
We'll probably have that here in Australia. SBS's idea of HD is fucking deplorable. It's only 576p and it's compressed to fuck...South Africa looked like dog shit.

Hopefully they get their shit together this year.

Treasure it mate.  When you watch a WC and it looks like it was filmed in the next town it loses some of that magic.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on April 18, 2014, 01:47:56 AM
Brasil to win

Cant wait for the world cup

soooo can we start an official sticker album thread and maybe sort out some sort of swapsie system?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on April 18, 2014, 02:51:22 AM
Brasil to win

Cant wait for the world cup

soooo can we start an official sticker album thread and maybe sort out some sort of swapsie system?

you are so gay
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on April 18, 2014, 03:23:46 AM
you are so gay

if you mean happy then yes I am!

If you mean homosexual then no, I am not

But if I was I would definitely consider your advances!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on April 18, 2014, 03:24:25 AM
if you mean happy then yes I am!

If you mean homosexual then no, I am not

But if I was I would definitely consider your advances!

That was an advance, Men....
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: baconsarnie on April 18, 2014, 06:05:35 PM
Uruguay will win it if the shite win the league. Another devils club.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: cantoffee on April 19, 2014, 04:39:43 AM
Can't look past the hosts for this one, Brazil on home soil will not lose.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on April 25, 2014, 03:19:17 AM
Have read that Falcao is likely to be in the squad if not 100% fit. Great news if he makes it.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: BrotherEstapol on April 25, 2014, 05:31:23 PM
Have read that Falcao is likely to be in the squad if not 100% fit. Great news if he makes it.
Want a picture of him and Oviedo a on the pitch in Brazil.  :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on April 28, 2014, 05:37:42 AM
we having a sweepstake this year?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on April 28, 2014, 07:35:41 PM
Everton Past and Present at the 2014 World Cup

Group A

Brazil Jo
Croatia Jelavic

Group B

Netherlands Heitinga (No sticker in the album though Johnny so you best raise your game for Fulham)
Australia Neill, Cahill

Group C

Cote D'Ivoire Traore, Kone (both would be a miracle, even either would be fortunate!Traore has his sticker in the album though!)

Group D

Costa Rica Oviedo (he's making it, though no sticker, he is on the team photo!)
England Baines, Jagielka, Barkley, Rooney

Group E

Switzerland Senderos
Ecuador Castillo

Group F

Argentina Straqualursi (well, Messi, Aguero, Huguain, Lavezzi and Palacio might all get injured)
Nigeria Yobo, Anichebe (Victor has no sticker, but are there really any better Nigerians at playing with their back to goal?)

Group G

United States Of America Howard. Donovan

Group H

Belgium Fellaini, Mirallas, Lukaku

So potentially representation in every group!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 28, 2014, 07:38:47 PM
Doesn't Yakubu get a game for Nigeria now?

Imagine how excited and how much running straq would get through if he was there
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on April 28, 2014, 07:40:43 PM
Come on Castillo lad, show those thighs to the world.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on April 28, 2014, 07:49:54 PM
Doesn't Yakubu get a game for Nigeria now?

Imagine how excited and how much running straq would get through if he was there

Though I can't reveal how i compiled my information, lets just say there isn't a Yak sticker in the official album
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 28, 2014, 07:52:30 PM
Though I can't reveal how i compiled my information, lets just say there isn't a Yak sticker in the official album
ha ha. I dunno anything about footy anymore... I could barely name international team players now. Is kanu in it???
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on April 28, 2014, 07:59:04 PM
ha ha. I dunno anything about footy anymore... I could barely name international team players now. Is kanu in it???

haha think he's finished now.  However the Italian squad is unchanged from the past 12 World Cups
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 28, 2014, 08:01:22 PM
ha ha. I dunno anything about footy anymore... I could barely name international team players now. Is kanu in it???
three world cups on and England are still trying to find a way of accommodating gerrard and lampard
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on April 29, 2014, 03:04:01 AM
haha think he's finished now. However the Italian squad is unchanged from the past 12 World Cups

so true
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Goaljira on April 29, 2014, 04:06:50 AM
Jo? Fucking Jo? How is he anywhere near the Brazil squad!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 29, 2014, 04:12:53 AM
Jo? Fucking Jo? How is he anywhere near the Brazil squad!
him and Fred up top
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on April 29, 2014, 04:13:38 AM
What are their strikers for World Cup?

Is Pato going? Leandro Damiao?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on April 29, 2014, 04:15:22 AM
Jo? Fucking Jo? How is he anywhere near the Brazil squad!

Apparently he's tearing it up in Brazil. Tim Vickery is always going on about how he's unrecognisable from when he played over here, and he probably moved abroad too early.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Goaljira on April 29, 2014, 04:18:15 AM
He's unrecognisable and he's playing well - Are they sure it's the same fella?  It's an easy test, just look how often he's stood in an offside position.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on April 29, 2014, 04:21:57 AM
Jo/Fred/Neymar/Hulk

He's a changed man now Jo!

Would definitely take him back
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on April 29, 2014, 04:23:04 AM
His goal scoring record in Brazil is nothing to shout about.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 29, 2014, 04:24:24 AM
Loves a party jo
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on April 29, 2014, 04:51:54 AM
he's the Brazilian Naismith

Neymarsmith if you like
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on April 29, 2014, 09:58:53 PM
Is this a hint that the likes of Ashley Cole will be going?

Quote
England manager Roy Hodgson says players' form over the last few matches of the season will not affect his World Cup selection plans.
Hodgson says he will make his decision based over the last few months or even years and that the last few weeks of the season is a "notoriously bad" time to judge players.
The England boss, who is due to announce his squad in a couple of weeks' time, told www.fifa.com (http://www.fifa.com): "Nothing that happens in the last four games, in terms of form, is going to affect me.
"I don't judge players on their last-minute form over two or three games. I'm judging them over two years. Or, in particular, if anyone new on the scene has emerged I'm judging him over several months."
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on April 29, 2014, 10:06:59 PM
Is this a hint that the likes of Ashley Cole will be going?

Is the last bit a message to John Stones?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 29, 2014, 10:07:48 PM
Take a young side ffs, we ain't gonna win it
 
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on April 29, 2014, 10:11:55 PM
Is the last bit a message to John Stones?

You never know? :)

He's probably covered all the basis in the last paragraph and pretty much opened it up to anyone who English and played a game of football in the last two years.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on April 30, 2014, 02:39:54 AM
he's the Brazilian Naismith

Neymarsmith if you like

Not you Bebesto attempt. You rally have to brush up on your puninho's
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Goaljira on April 30, 2014, 05:51:15 AM

Is the last bit a message to John Stones?

It must be.  Who else has come along in the last six months?  Don't say Harry Kane.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 01, 2014, 10:38:44 PM
It must be.  Who else has come along in the last six months?  Don't say Harry Kane.

Paul dummet
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: fubarruk on May 04, 2014, 03:40:46 PM
Expect all the South American sides to do well. Brazil or Argentina to win it, one of the others to be the surprise team of the competition.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Redartin on May 05, 2014, 07:09:31 PM
Will there be a prediction league type thread during the World Cup?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bob Sacamano on May 06, 2014, 05:19:54 AM
And a sweep?

Count me in.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on May 06, 2014, 08:06:14 PM
Someone mentioned a sweep earlier I'm sure? Think the idea was to have the draw on the podcast.

Not sure if it's feasible but an entry fee and winner takes all would be fun :D
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 06, 2014, 08:06:33 PM
Someone mentioned a sweep earlier I'm sure? Think the idea was to have the draw on the podcast.

Not sure if it's feasible but an entry fee and winner takes all would be fun :D
sir Stealth is the sweep man
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on May 07, 2014, 12:25:52 AM
Someone mentioned a sweep earlier I'm sure? Think the idea was to have the draw on the podcast.

Not sure if it's feasible but an entry fee and winner takes all would be fun :D

Yeah it would be but as a collective the majority of NSNO'ers are absolute fucking mincers when it comes to chipping a few quid in for a sweep.

Confucius can be excused on religious grounds but there are a couple of renowned nonces on here with short arms and deep pockets.

Twenty bulls a man. 500 of ya finest earth credits to the winner, 100 quid second, 20 quid 3rd and 4th.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 07, 2014, 01:29:08 AM
Yeah it would be but as a collective the majority of NSNO'ers are absolute fucking mincers when it comes to chipping a few quid in for a sweep.

Confucius can be excused on religious grounds but there are a couple of renowned nonces on here with short arms and deep pockets.

Twenty bulls a man. 500 of ya finest earth credits to the winner, 100 quid second, 20 quid 3rd and 4th.

All that is necessary to make this happen, is appointing someone trustworthy to be the banker and people pay him/Lizz via Paypal.

Piece of piss.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 07, 2014, 01:30:07 AM
Bosnia have named their squad. I'll be honest I've heard of about 3 or 4 of them!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27294645 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27294645)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on May 07, 2014, 01:34:14 AM
Yeah it would be but as a collective the majority of NSNO'ers are absolute fucking mincers when it comes to chipping a few quid in for a sweep.

Confucius can be excused on religious grounds but there are a couple of renowned nonces on here with short arms and deep pockets.

Twenty bulls a man. 500 of ya finest earth credits to the winner, 100 quid second, 20 quid 3rd and 4th.

Religious.... sometimes. uI will make an exception to take your money though. i am in
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on May 07, 2014, 01:40:32 AM
I'd be in for this also.
Might be good to slide a small portion across to a charity as well perhaps?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Silas on May 07, 2014, 01:42:14 AM
I'd be in for this also.
Might be good to slide a small portion across to a charity as well perhaps?

Silas in the Community likes this idea.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on May 07, 2014, 01:48:08 AM

Silas in the Community likes this idea.
in like a flash with your own Charity - good work ;)
I'll see your Silas in the Community and raise you a:
Zoolander Center For Kids Who Can't Read Good And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too, where we teach you that there's more to life than just being really, really, really good looking. 
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 07, 2014, 01:51:37 AM
Be assed putting £20 in.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Silas on May 07, 2014, 02:21:09 AM
in like a flash with your own Charity - good work ;)
I'll see your Silas in the Community and raise you a:
Zoolander Center For Kids Who Can't Read Good And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too, where we teach you that there's more to life than just being really, really, really good looking. 

Well played Sir, well played!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 07, 2014, 03:08:15 AM
sir Stealth is the sweep man

I usually am (well once) and I am happy to do it again but I think Si has some plans for a sweep this time?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 07, 2014, 05:53:34 AM
Jones' injury doesn't look good apparently.

I'd say Stones but it'll probably be Caulker.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 07, 2014, 07:54:59 AM
Are we really putting £20 in for the sweep?

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on May 07, 2014, 10:48:25 AM
Are we really putting £20 in for the sweep?



No, You putting 40 cos we have to listen to you complain you drew honduras
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on May 07, 2014, 04:13:26 PM
Are we really putting £20 in for the sweep?



Get your hand in ya pocket you tart.

Expected better from tha!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on May 07, 2014, 05:37:34 PM
Not sure we'd get 32 people to part with £20 on the chance they'll be drawn one of the possible 6-7 teams that are likely to go on to win it. Maybe a £10 would be more enticing? But split the winnings £250 for the winner, £50 runner up, and £10 money back for making the semis?

We'd need a trustee to hold the cash obvious (through paypal as Velimski suggested), nominees could be welcomed. Then say a deadline for the 1st 32 to register, after that a second deadline of say 5 days to pay your cash in or lose your spot to poster 33 who'd registered, then 34 etc etc. After the trustee confirms all the cash is in then the draw could be made, but obviously regardless of who you get it's none refundable from there on in.

Just need an honest and diligent poster to start it and run it (SirStealth might be happy to do this?), and a trustee everyone can agree on?

Also it might be best to limit it to regular posters, say people who've got over a certain amount of posts this year or something.

Clearly this would all be subject to whether or not Si and Bally are ok with the idea obviously.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bob Sacamano on May 07, 2014, 06:21:49 PM
Erm, how about for funzies? Pretty sure you can bet on the World Cup at the bookmakers if that's your particular flavour.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on May 07, 2014, 06:51:07 PM
If you'd have just said that before Bob it would have saved me 5 minutes typing all that out.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 07, 2014, 08:50:30 PM
I'm with Sam and MGP on this one.

We could also do it with 16 or 8 people if we are struggling to get 32. That way we'd all have 2 or 4 teams each which would in turn give everyone more hope.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 07, 2014, 08:56:49 PM
The Euros got 32 people I think so I'm sure this will.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 07, 2014, 09:03:04 PM
The Euros got 32 people I think so I'm sure this will.

That paid?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 07, 2014, 09:05:35 PM
That paid?

Nope, apologies.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 07, 2014, 09:16:48 PM
Nope, apologies.

And the euro's only had 16 teams.  ;)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 07, 2014, 09:17:10 PM
Can we have one for people who don't wanna put £20 in?

I'll stretch to a fiver, but fuck £20.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 07, 2014, 09:17:39 PM
And the euro's only had 16 teams.  ;)

It was 2 posters per team :smug:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 07, 2014, 09:19:54 PM
Happy to organise whatever and be a cash trustee if need be. Bally knows where I work so will have no problem knee-capping me if he needs to

Im in for a cash sweep if theres enough interest or just a freebie for funzies
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on May 07, 2014, 09:57:56 PM
Erm, how about for funzies? Pretty sure you can bet on the World Cup at the bookmakers if that's your particular flavour.

You can have Scotland then seeing as you just want to do it for fun??

Now let the misters sort out a sweep for people with testicles!!

What's more fun than winning 500 big ones?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on May 07, 2014, 10:02:44 PM
Stealth. Start a poll or a list of those who want to do it just for fun, and a list for the non homosexuals who want to actually make it worthwhile and not absolutely fucking pointless.

If there's not enough of us with the kahunas for twenty then a 5er will be just about ok I guess but what the fuck is this "just for fun" shit all about?

There'll be kids in primary schools across the country putting in wham bars and refreshers with more at stake than us if that happens!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 07, 2014, 10:03:06 PM
@Haile GAZrselassie (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=44) think £5 or £10 is more likley to get people involved, a booby prize should be invovled too
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 07, 2014, 10:09:32 PM
I'll lob a fiver in.

Fuck £20 though, that's a bit too much IMO.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 07, 2014, 10:09:35 PM
I must admit a 'Funzie' with no prize isn't exactly my idea of fun!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 07, 2014, 10:10:44 PM
Fiver, with only the top 2 places paying out.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 07, 2014, 10:12:37 PM
Can we not bump it up to an Ayrton minimum?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on May 07, 2014, 10:13:28 PM
I'll lob a fiver in.

Fuck £20 though, that's a bit too much IMO.

£10 is more realist for people and a chance of a decent win or consolation prize. If it's a £5 the winner gets next to nothing by the time the pots split.

You know you want to Ram
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on May 07, 2014, 10:15:29 PM
Can we not bump it up to an Ayrton minimum?

I would have thought that's reasonable enough with a decent pot to win and a chance of a consolation prize or your money back?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Analog Kid on May 07, 2014, 10:16:23 PM
Did I just hear right on Talksport then, Coutinho and Lucas not in the Brazil squad?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on May 07, 2014, 10:28:07 PM
Did I just hear right on Talksport then, Coutinho and Lucas not in the Brazil squad?

Yeah you did AK according to this

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/07/brazil-world-cup-squad-luiz-felipe-scolari-selecao (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/07/brazil-world-cup-squad-luiz-felipe-scolari-selecao)

There's a march on Sunday after the game. Starts at the Arkels and is expected to finishes on Thursday at the Brazilian embassy in London.

Dress code; Burberry, Lacoste, Flags and Effigies
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Analog Kid on May 07, 2014, 10:30:13 PM
<takes a look on RAWK>
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bob Sacamano on May 07, 2014, 11:15:31 PM
Absolutely no chance you tits are seeing the colour of my money. It's a world cup thread not Patrick Power.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 07, 2014, 11:21:25 PM
Finally they've announced it!



Honduras 23 man squad

Goalkeepers: Noel Valladares, Donis Escober (both Olimpia), Luis Lopez (Real Espana)

Defenders: Brayan Beckeles (Olimpia), Emilio Izaguirre (Celtic/Scotland), Juan Carlos Garcia (Wigan/England), Maynor Figueroa (Hull City/England), Victor Bernardez (San Jose Earthquakes/USA), Osman Chavez (Qingdao Janoon/China PR), Juan Pablo Montes (Motagua)

Midfielders: Arnold Peralta (Rangers/Scotland), Luis Garrido (Olimpia), Roger Espinoza (Wigan/England), Jorge Claros (Motagua), Wilson Palacios (Stoke/England), Oscar Garcia (Houston Dynamo/USA), Andy Najar (Anderlecht/Belgium), Mario Martinez (Real Espana), Marvin Chavez (Colorado Rapids/USA)

Forwards: Jerry Bengtson (New England Revolution/USA), Jerry Palacios (Alajuelense/Costa Rica), Carlo Costly (Real Espana), Rony Martinez (Real Sociedad/Spain)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 07, 2014, 11:44:17 PM
Never thought we'd get to see Osman at the world cup
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Silas on May 07, 2014, 11:47:20 PM
@Haile GAZrselassie (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=44) think £5 or £10 is more likley to get people involved, a booby prize should be invovled too

Booby prize is whoever draws England
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on May 08, 2014, 01:42:10 AM
Absolutely no chance you tits are seeing the colour of my money. It's a world cup thread not Patrick Power.

It's called a sweepSTAKE for a reason you tight arse.

Not a sweepfunzie or a sweepfuckall, a sweepstake. With money put in and paid out to the winner.

How much ganja does 250 bulls buy these days? How long could you pay for a subby to Netflix for with 250 small in ya hand?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 08, 2014, 01:46:14 AM
It's called a sweepSTAKE for a reason you tight arse.

Not a sweepfunzie or a sweepfuckall, a sweepstake. With money put in and paid out to the winner.

How much ganja does 250 bulls buy these days? How long could you pay for a subby to Netflix for with 250 small in ya hand?

That's why I'm not a fan of it. You're wanting us to pay £20 for a 1 in 32 chance of winning.

They'll be someone who gets Iran who would have just thrown away £20. I'd much rather go and put a bet on than basically throw away £20 knowing I'm gonna end up fucking Costa Rica
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on May 08, 2014, 01:48:25 AM
Anyone who doesn't want to take part doesn't have though @TheRam (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1602)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on May 08, 2014, 01:58:26 AM
That's why I'm not a fan of it. You're wanting us to pay £20 for a 1 in 32 chance of winning.

They'll be someone who gets Iran who would have just thrown away £20. I'd much rather go and put a bet on than basically throw away £20 knowing I'm gonna end up fucking Costa Rica

That's the fun of it though!! You could also end up with Brazil, argentina, Spain or Germany and be looking at getting back more than 5x the amount you would with some bookies if you staked with them at 7/2 for Brazil.

Off the top of my head you'd have to end up with someone utter shit like Honduras, Iran, Australia etc to be better off at the bookies.

If your team is priced below 25/1 then your in with a better chance of winning more money here than you are in the bookies!! It makes perfect sense!!

I would imagine at LEAST 12 of the 32 are priced below 25/1!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on May 08, 2014, 01:58:50 AM
We need a high rollers one of 20 quid, a funzies one for the scaredy cats and a 5 quid one for the almost men
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on May 08, 2014, 02:02:36 AM
We need a high rollers one of 20 quid, a funzies one for the scaredy cats and a 5 quid one for the almost men

No we just need the one for cash IMO.

A tenner suits me fine if we get 32 in cos 250 return is still lovely jubbly.

If people still want to do one for fun then knock yasens out.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on May 08, 2014, 02:20:56 AM
The way to alleiviate the problem is we do 16 seeded teams and 16 unseeded. Everybody who plays gets drawn a team from each pot. We devise a point system for finishing places and the person who has the highest combined score wins.

Simple really
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 08, 2014, 06:26:56 AM
Serie A player World Cup prospects update.

After 4 months out with yet another knee injury, Giuseppe Rossi made his come back and scored against Sassuolo. If he can stay fit he could be a big player in Brazil.

In the same game, 19 y.o wonderkid Domenico Berardi, who has been touted for a call up for Italy, enhanced his chances by scoring his second hat trick of the season.

Arturo Vidal is having knee surgery, but is expected to be fit in time. Good news because as one of the world's best midfielders he would be a big miss.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 08, 2014, 06:43:03 AM
Any chance for Jorginho?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 08, 2014, 06:54:16 AM
Any chance for Jorginho?

Wouldn't think so. He's not a regular for Napoli (who is, under Benitez?). Also in his role, Pirlo and Verratti are ahead of him. On the other hand, Marchisio and Montolivio haven't been great this season but Prandelli likes them so they're unlikely to miss out at Jorginho's expense.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 08, 2014, 06:57:26 AM
Looks like it could be a bridge too far for falcao.

If he does go he's not gonna be anywhere near match fit. Shame really, the World Cup would be a poorer tournament without him
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 08, 2014, 02:25:32 PM
Looks like it could be a bridge too far for falcao.

If he does go he's not gonna be anywhere near match fit. Shame really, the World Cup would be a poorer tournament without him

As a knee ligament victim myself, I knew he wouldnt be ready.

I did mine in 2007 and I'm still not ready. Plus China didn't qualify and I'm still yet to earn my first cap at 31

the world cup dream is over isnt it?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on May 08, 2014, 03:00:07 PM
As a knee ligament victim myself, I knew he wouldnt be ready.

I did mine in 2007 and I'm still not ready. Plus China didn't qualify and I'm still yet to earn my first cap at 31

the world cup dream is over isnt it?

Never, there is still Chinese Taiwan
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 08, 2014, 03:49:34 PM
I'm in for a sweepstake £5, £10, £20 whatever. As a suggestion, why don't you have a prize for the winner and a prize for the first team knocked out of the tournament, that way if you get a shit team you're still in the hunt.

Maybe announce it on the Main Everton forum as well, I've only just read the thread. You'll get a few more takers then.

I'm also gonna buy a sticker album for me and the little one, world cup charts going up in the front room, world cup Fantasy Football and a quid going on 1st goal scorer for every game. World Cup fever in the citizen household this summer. Wooooo!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 08, 2014, 03:55:08 PM
that's the spirit TGC.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on May 08, 2014, 03:59:02 PM
Don't forget to take part in the vote @The Good Citizen (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3397)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 08, 2014, 03:59:09 PM
that's the spirit TGC.

Its the South American factor, like its '86 all over again. Imagining Ross doing a Maradonna through the Brazillian defence in the final now.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 08, 2014, 04:01:59 PM
Don't forget to take part in the vote @The Good Citizen (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3397)
Cheers, completely missed it as usual!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 08, 2014, 04:01:59 PM
Its the South American factor, like its '86 all over again. Imagining Ross doing a Maradonna through the Brazillian defence in the final now.

Ross is better than that. He won't be scoring a deliberate handball! ;)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 08, 2014, 04:04:08 PM
Ross is better than that. He won't be scoring a deliberate handball! ;)

As long as he doesn't end up fat, coked up and taking pot shots at journos with an air rifle.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 08, 2014, 04:36:57 PM
Outrageous behaviour from a school teacher, but he probably needed a couple to finish his Colombian national team off, so understandable. We've all been there:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/08/colombian-teacher-steals-panini-stickers-children (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/08/colombian-teacher-steals-panini-stickers-children)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 08, 2014, 04:40:03 PM
Got well over 100 swaps now. Who else is collecting?I'm dangerously close to completing Japan, Mexico and France so may try start some sort of swap network later of anyone is interested?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 08, 2014, 04:40:39 PM
I'm not that teacher btw!Im doing it legit
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 08, 2014, 04:41:19 PM
Outrageous behaviour from a school teacher, but he probably needed a couple to finish his Colombian national team off, so understandable. We've all been there:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/08/colombian-teacher-steals-panini-stickers-children (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/08/colombian-teacher-steals-panini-stickers-children)

Thats brilliant fair play Panini stickers is a cut throat business,  bet he didn't think it end up a topic of discussion half way around the world when he did it though.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 08, 2014, 04:43:42 PM
Got well over 100 swaps now. Who else is collecting?I'm dangerously close to completing Japan, Mexico and France so may try start some sort of swap network later of anyone is interested?

I'll be popping over at lunch to buy one so I'll be on the look out for swaps at some point. Last time I collected was in 95/96, even as a poor student, some of the gloss was taken off by the fact i could buy so many. Half of the appeal was nagging your folks all day for 30p so you could buy a couple of packs.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 08, 2014, 04:52:54 PM
I'll be popping over at lunch to buy one so I'll be on the look out for swaps at some point. Last time I collected was in 95/96, even as a poor student, some of the gloss was taken off by the fact i could buy so many. Half of the appeal was nagging your folks all day for 30p so you could buy a couple of packs.

Well best nag your folks for 50p for one pack this time round!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 08, 2014, 06:14:29 PM
Well best nag your folks for 50p for one pack this time round!

Bought a starter pack with 12 packs.. then went on ebay and bought a box for nearly half price.. economies of scale *taps nose*.

100 panini packs in a box... thats one off my 11 year old self's bucket list!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on May 08, 2014, 06:26:14 PM
100 panini packs in a box... thats one off my 11 year old self's bucket list!

I remember when everyone in school was collecting Football 87, this spoilt fat lad got a box for his birthday to try and complete it. Everyone was dead jealous about it and he got everyone he needed bar some Scottish players from Hibs or something, those double ones they did at the back because the SPL is meaningless.

Guess who had them as a swapsie ....I didn't half royally fuck him over on that  :whistle:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 08, 2014, 06:53:20 PM
I remember when everyone in school was collecting Football 87, this spoilt fat lad got a box for his birthday to try and complete it. Everyone was dead jealous about it and he got everyone he needed bar some Scottish players from Hibs or something, those double ones they did at the back because the SPL is meaningless.

Guess who had them as a swapsie ....I didn't half royally fuck him over on that  :whistle:

Its a good introduction to kids off the concept of supply and demand, all sorts used to change hands if you had the swap needed to complete a collection. I gave away all my 200 odd swaps to a lad for Steve Ogrizovic in 1985/86.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 08, 2014, 07:05:24 PM
I will no doubt buy a 100 pack box soon in an attempt to complete the album!

Keep me updated with your swaps Good Citizen!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 08, 2014, 07:20:29 PM
I will no doubt buy a 100 pack box soon in an attempt to complete the album!

Keep me updated with your swaps Good Citizen!

Will do, once the box arrives I should have a fair few so I'll send you a list.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 08, 2014, 07:39:23 PM
Are they doing 'foilies' still?

1 of them was worth about 10 Brian Kilklines/ Gordon Cowans'
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 08, 2014, 07:43:51 PM
Are they doing 'foilies' still?

1 of them was worth about 10 Brian Kilklines/ Gordon Cowans'

Yeah my first 2 packs both had a foily and then I got to taste that sweet sting of disapointment as the third was just a pack of Ivory Coast and Iranian defenders.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: bacon sarnie on May 08, 2014, 07:48:16 PM
Bob, Joe, Fred and Hulk should do the job for Brasil like.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 08, 2014, 07:49:11 PM
Shinys guys, please!

Struggling for USA and Iran players

Have ridiculous amounts of yaya toure on swap
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 08, 2014, 07:55:05 PM
Ah yes. They could have been shinys not foilies!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 08, 2014, 08:16:08 PM
Shinys guys, please!

Struggling for USA and Iran players

Have ridiculous amounts of yaya toure on swap

Yaya came with the book :) Just found 3 lads sat across the office who are collecting them too.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 08, 2014, 08:58:35 PM
Hate the way that those 6 that come with the book are still made anyway!they are in every book!

Ive had a few packs with 2 shineys. The feeling of achievement when you get this is massive!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 08, 2014, 11:21:39 PM
Germany have announced their 30 man provisional squad. Points of interest include:

Only two out-and-out strikers, Klose and Volland. No Mario Gomez. Klose is within 2 of the all time world cup goal record.

Plenty of highly promising young players in there, though some may miss out in the final 23: Ginter, Goretzka, May Meyer, Erik Durm, plus the usual suspects.

And one ex-Everton player in the 30............ Shrokdan Mustafi!

Oh, and Kheidera is in the squad after a bad injury, but Sven Bender isn't, although I think he would be fit in time.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 08, 2014, 11:37:11 PM
Gomez is injured isn't he?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 08, 2014, 11:48:12 PM
Gomez is injured isn't he?

Don't think so. He was, but he should be fit in time. He might lack match fitness, but so does Klose so it it would suggest it's a footballing decision.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 08, 2014, 11:50:14 PM
Don't think so. He was, but he should be fit in time. He might lack match fitness, but so does Klose so it it would suggest it's a footballing decision.

He hasn't play for two months and has only played 9 league games all season so it's too much risk really.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 09, 2014, 12:55:59 AM
Very very mf heavy
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 09, 2014, 12:57:57 AM
They'll get found out in this World Cup.

They're so over rated IMO. Every tournament people have them as favourites to win, yet the always bottle the semis
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 09, 2014, 01:08:23 AM
They'll get found out in this World Cup.

They're so over rated IMO. Every tournament people have them as favourites to win, yet the always bottle the semis

People talk about the arrogance of the English going into tournaments but Germany's is just as ridiculous. Dutch fans are bad for it as well but they might be knocked down a peg after euro 2012.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 09, 2014, 01:21:31 AM
People talk about the arrogance of the English going into tournaments but Germany's is just as ridiculous. Dutch fans are bad for it as well but they might be knocked down a peg after euro 2012.

Their arrogance is completely justified though.

World cup : 3 x winners, 4 x runners up, 5 x other semi finalists.

Euro's : 3 x winners, 3 x runners up, 2 x other semi finalists.

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on May 09, 2014, 02:15:44 AM
They'll get found out in this World Cup.

They're so over rated IMO. Every tournament people have them as favourites to win, yet the always bottle the semis
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What the fuck?

Always bottle the semi's? They've won it 3 times and been runners up more times than I care to remember too.

Was it not also only in the last euros that they lost their first ever Penno shoot out?

Their very nature gives them balls of steel.

If a European team is to be the first to win it outside their own continent it will come from Germany or Spain.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 09, 2014, 02:39:31 AM
They'll get found out in this World Cup.

They're so over rated IMO. Every tournament people have them as favourites to win, yet the always bottle the semis

I sympathise with what you're saying.

They are a very good side but I don't think they're winner material.

Supposedly there is a large body of opinion in Germany saying that Joachim Lowe isn't actually that great.

In terms of European teams, I'd have Spain (obviously) and Italy ahead of them as likely winners.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 09, 2014, 03:06:54 AM
Miroslav Klose @ 40/1 for top goal scorer at the world cup has to be worth a punt!

Can I ask Hill135, our Italian football correspondent on how he's been getting on in Serie A this season?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 09, 2014, 03:23:33 AM
Miroslav Klose @ 40/1 for top goal scorer at the world cup has to be worth a punt!

Can I ask Hill135, our Italian football correspondent on how he's been getting on in Serie A this season?

Been OK from what I gather. In and out with injury but scored 7 in 20 starts. Not too bad when you consider that Lazio were in a bit of a mess until they changed their manager a few months ago.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 09, 2014, 03:35:42 AM
Been OK from what I gather. In and out with injury but scored 7 in 20 starts. Not too bad when you consider that Lazio were in a bit of a mess until they changed their manager a few months ago.

You've got some froth on your upper lip from the cappuccino you're drinking outside the swanky Milanese café bar.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 09, 2014, 03:39:04 AM
Luca Toni deserves to go tbh.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 09, 2014, 03:39:06 AM
You've got some froth on your upper lip from the cappuccino you're drinking outside the swanky Milanese café bar.

It's the only way to read Gazzetta dello Sport. It can get windy and the pages blow about, but at least it doesn't mess my hair up.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 09, 2014, 03:39:07 AM
Typically Brazil, Argentina, Germany and Italy are good at world cups I've noticed. Wouldn't write any of them off

Wouldn't be surprised to see England, Holland and France flop
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 09, 2014, 03:43:45 AM
You've got some froth on your upper lip from the cappuccino you're drinking outside the swanky Milanese café bar.

(http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr240/mikeycharlton/James-Richardson_399x273.jpg)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 09, 2014, 03:43:49 AM
Obvious question. Will Belgium actually turn up and fulfil their promise, or will they disappear fairly quickly? What do people reckon?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 09, 2014, 03:46:28 AM
Obvious question. Will Belgium actually turn up and fulfil their promise, or will they disappear fairly quickly? What do people reckon?

Who's in their group?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 09, 2014, 03:48:10 AM
Who's in their group?

Lazy fucker ;)

Algeria, Russia and South Korea. Great draw to be fair.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 09, 2014, 03:50:02 AM
Lazy fucker ;)

Algeria, Russia and South Korea. Great draw to be fair.

sorry, some of us don't have a wall chart up in their bedroom. (yet)

<quickly checks odds on Lukaku to be top goal scorer>
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 09, 2014, 03:54:36 AM
(http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr240/mikeycharlton/James-Richardson_399x273.jpg)

Avatar material that.

About Belgium. I think they should do well. Not too hard a group (which group do they play in the next round?). They've got good players throughout their squad and a smattering of world class players (Courtois, Kompany, Hazard). Their only real weakness seems to be fullback positions.

Don't know if their manager is any good though.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 09, 2014, 03:57:56 AM
Vertonghen is more than useful at left back.  Or will he be centre back?

Vermaelen has gone off the boil last couple of years hasn't he!?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 09, 2014, 03:58:10 AM
If they win the group they'll player whoever finishes second from Germany, Portugal, Ghana, USA. Or whoever finishes 1st should Belgium finish 2nd.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 09, 2014, 03:59:05 AM
Will Lombaerts get a match? Alderweireld?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 09, 2014, 04:04:56 AM
Belgium will get ko'd fairly early I reckon
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 09, 2014, 04:05:09 AM
Yeah good points lads. You'd have to say Portugal, USA or Ghana isn't a terrible potential draw, assuming it plays out that way. I suppose they might go with Alderweireld and Vertonghen as adapted full backs. But when you see the strength of their wide forwards, they could possibly afford to have more defensive full backs and let Hazard, Mirallas, Chadli, Mertens stay further forward and do their thing.

EDIT: I wrote that before Stealth pissed on my Belgian chips.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Goaljira on May 09, 2014, 04:10:50 AM

Got well over 100 swaps now. Who else is collecting?I'm dangerously close to completing Japan, Mexico and France so may try start some sort of swap network later of anyone is interested?

I'm down to around 50 swaps after organising postal swaps with someone I went to school with.  It's the Koreans that seem to be eluding me the most.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 09, 2014, 04:12:42 AM
A Ronaldo determined Portugal might be a tough draw, how old is he now? 28?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 09, 2014, 04:14:25 AM
Haha only my opinion BD

That lack of world cup experience could be their downfall.  Some great players there though.  The keeper seems a star, plus Kompany and Hazard as well as our Kev if he turns up.  Just think overall they might not be ready
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 09, 2014, 04:16:24 AM
A Ronaldo determined Portugal might be a tough draw, how old is he now? 28?

You never know with Portugal. They have a good defence (Pepe and Bruno Alves are a solid centre back pairing, plus Contreau is a fantastic left back) so if they can keep it tight and let Ronaldo do his magic then who knows.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 09, 2014, 04:16:33 AM
Haha only my opinion BD

That lack of world cup experience could be their downfall.  Some great players there though.  The keeper seems a star, plus Kompany and Hazard as well as our Kev if he turns up.  Just think overall they might not be ready

Nah it's fair enough Stealth. I think they're just as likely to completely flop as they are to go quite far. A lot of hyped, hipstery teams end up flattering to deceive.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 09, 2014, 04:26:19 AM
That Belgium squad is fucking mental. World class quality everywhere you look.

They should reach the semis, but I think it might just be too much for them this time around.  They'll win the euros in France.

Called. It
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 09, 2014, 04:27:29 AM
I'm down to around 50 swaps after organising postal swaps with someone I went to school with.  It's the Koreans that seem to be eluding me the most.

I have Jung Sung-Ryong, Lee Chung-Yong and Park Joo-Ho on swap plus the shiny, Lee Keun-Ho and Son Heung-Min also on swap
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Goaljira on May 09, 2014, 04:41:44 AM
I'll sort out my swaps list and pm you them tomorrow?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 09, 2014, 05:00:04 AM
I'll sort out my swaps list and pm you them tomorrow?

sounds good! :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 09, 2014, 05:07:49 AM
Anyone fancy Costa Rica to pull off a shock?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: cantoffee on May 09, 2014, 05:35:15 AM
I'm in for a sweepstakes as well.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on May 09, 2014, 06:11:38 AM
I'm in for a sweepstakes as well.

Have you voted cantoffee got to be in it to win it!

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Thornton_19 on May 09, 2014, 07:49:11 AM
Anyone fancy Costa Rica to pull off a shock?

Only if Oviedo goes. The team i think will shock the most people is Chile.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on May 09, 2014, 12:36:39 PM
Anyone fancy Costa Rica to pull off a shock?

By getting beat by England?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 09, 2014, 07:20:04 PM
Have bought my sticker album and 20 packs, the only problem is I don't have any nails and am struggling to peel the stickers.

Anyone else suffering due to a lack of nails?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 09, 2014, 08:05:16 PM
Have bought my sticker album and 20 packs, the only problem is I don't have any nails and am struggling to peel the stickers.

Anyone else suffering due to a lack of nails?

I aint great at the peeling, or even the sticking in!My album is an OCD sufferers biggest nightmare
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 09, 2014, 08:13:45 PM
Have bought my sticker album and 20 packs, the only problem is I don't have any nails and am struggling to peel the stickers.

Anyone else suffering due to a lack of nails?

They are tricky, peel a corner one way and if it wont separate, peel it back the other way thats my normal approach.

As Stealth says I'm a bit obsessive of hitting the corner of the sticker box and lining it up correctly, I know my little one is going to want to help sticking them in... tense moments. :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 10, 2014, 06:56:52 AM
Got my album today and about 16 packs. Already got most of the Belgium and Croatia teams. Instantly swapped my Jack Wilshere with my Arsenal supporting mate for his Leighton Baines. Gonna get some more stickers tomorrow  8)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: bluestevie on May 10, 2014, 07:22:33 PM
I'm not as into getting stickers this time round as I was for Euro 2012. Might have to start getting more in if I want to have it at least half full by the time it kicks off
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 10, 2014, 09:48:30 PM
Bought a starter pack with 12 packs.. then went on ebay and bought a box for nearly half price.. economies of scale *taps nose*.

100 panini packs in a box... thats one off my 11 year old self's bucket list!

Link me up please TGC. Getting a bit expensive this new hobby of mine.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 10, 2014, 11:21:21 PM
Link me up please TGC. Getting a bit expensive this new hobby of mine.

There's a seller called *eboss82* think he's the cheapest mate.

The item is listed as "Panini world cup stickers 2014..... 100 packs" 38 sold so far.

£27 BIN £3 postage.

Mine came today only bought them Thursday I think. Been up to my neck in stickers the last hour, terrible haircut on Bainsey's . :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 10, 2014, 11:24:18 PM

Mine came today only bought them Thursday I think. Been up to my neck in stickers the last hour, terrible haircut on Bainsey's . :)

You know when people pass the time by tracing the pictures in a newspaper with a biro? That's what Baines's hair looks like on his sticker.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 10, 2014, 11:46:29 PM
You know when people pass the time by tracing the pictures in a newspaper with a biro? That's what Baines's hair looks like on his sticker.

Tbh all the England players look ropey, the shiny is just a flag and the team photo is just a fudged cut and paste of all their individual sticker photos. Poor!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 11, 2014, 01:05:48 AM
At what point do you stop forking out for random packs and start dealing solely with swapsies?

I'm not quite at that stage yet, but just wondering what others do?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Goaljira on May 11, 2014, 01:50:21 AM

At what point do you stop forking out for random packs and start dealing solely with swapsies?

I'm not quite at that stage yet, but just wondering what others do?

The odds are forever in Panini's favour.  Assuming an even distribution/production of all stickers if you weren't to swap any then anything over 70 packs the odds of getting more than one sticker you've not already got are pretty appalling.  The good thing with this is that if you've got plenty of people to swap with(kids at school) then even if you get duplicates your effectively still getting the opportunity to trade for one you need.

As adults it's a lot harder, and without the mass opportunities to swap it can become a very expensive exercise.

I've been lucky in having a couple of friends around the country to trade with by post, so I'm over halfway full now and I currently only stand at around 30 swaps. Sir Stealth and I have setup a trade, but because of my lacks of swaps in relation to what he's got that I need I've bunged a few unopened packs in his direction too.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 11, 2014, 02:18:01 AM
You could always cheat and order the stickers you're missing direct from Panini, for 14p each.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 11, 2014, 03:51:41 AM
At what point do you stop forking out for random packs and start dealing solely with swapsies?

I'm not quite at that stage yet, but just wondering what others do?

I think because I bought that 100 pack I got a lot less swaps than I would if I bought then a few packs a day, seemed to mostly get the ones I needed, even when a team was nearly done. Just finished sticking 100 packs in, hard work! Finished Russia and a few others have only a coupe left. 192 still to get and a healthy batch of swaps to take to work Monday. Think once I get below a 100 I'll see if I can swap as many of the rest and stop buying.

Actually really enjoyed sorting them all out with the little one, he loves that sort of thing.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 11, 2014, 04:17:20 AM
Yea i'll see how I go with the Ebay 100 packs (+25 that I've done already), before sending Junior V to school with my swaps. I've told her that she'll need to forget talking about Barbie dolls with her friends for a month, and instead get amongst the boys.

Very early days, but I haven't had a single Belgium, Chile or Uruguay, despite having 6 or 7 Iran and Ghana. In fact I've had 3 Ashkan Dejagah's.

You could say 'I've got to move Dejagah'   :-[

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Goaljira on May 11, 2014, 02:15:53 PM
No Oviedo, no party.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 11, 2014, 02:57:13 PM
I get to within 50 stickers of completion and then order the rest from panini. Hate the way England don't allow them the licence to use the official badge or kit

Also is Maxi Rodriguez really in the Argentina squad?!

And is that Antunes in the Portugal squad actually Scottish?

Ugliest sticker goes to Domagoj Vida of Croatia
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cozzie on May 11, 2014, 06:38:28 PM
Ugliest sticker goes to Domagoj Vida of Croatia

Just Googled him, Christ.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 11, 2014, 06:40:21 PM
Just Googled him, Christ.

Hello handsome!

(http://cdn6.celebrityhairstylez.com/wp-content/gallery/domagoj-vida/domagoj-vida-hairstyles3.jpg)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 11, 2014, 06:42:12 PM
Hello handsome!

(http://cdn6.celebrityhairstylez.com/wp-content/gallery/domagoj-vida/domagoj-vida-hairstyles3.jpg)
me screens just cracked
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 11, 2014, 06:53:17 PM
I get to within 50 stickers of completion and then order the rest from panini. Hate the way England don't allow them the licence to use the official badge or kit

Also is Maxi Rodriguez really in the Argentina squad?!

And is that Antunes in the Portugal squad actually Scottish?

Ugliest sticker goes to Domagoj Vida of Croatia

Funny you should say that, because I had exactly the same thoughts when I stumbled across Rodriguez and the Croatian chap.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 11, 2014, 07:32:25 PM
Hello handsome!

(http://cdn6.celebrityhairstylez.com/wp-content/gallery/domagoj-vida/domagoj-vida-hairstyles3.jpg)

I've got about 4 of him already. Nobody wants to trade :(
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 12, 2014, 03:44:45 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/10823764/Ashley-Cole-left-out-of-Englands-World-Cup-squad-by-Roy-Hodgson.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/10823764/Ashley-Cole-left-out-of-Englands-World-Cup-squad-by-Roy-Hodgson.html)

Cole left out of squad.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on May 12, 2014, 03:46:09 AM
Rumour is he's been left out and refused to go on standby list.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 12, 2014, 03:54:17 AM
Shaw given the nod over Cole.

I can understand him not wanting to go on stand-by although it doesn't do his already awful image any good.  Not that he'll give a shit!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 12, 2014, 03:55:53 AM
Didn't someone refuse at 2010 to go on standby?

Was it Carrick?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: NomadskiEFC on May 12, 2014, 03:59:03 AM
Yeah, and he would have been called up if he hadn't been a dick.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 12, 2014, 03:59:29 AM
Didn't someone refuse at 2010 to go on standby?

Was it Carrick?

Yes. I'm sure he wasn't the 1st and won't be the last.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on May 12, 2014, 04:01:03 AM
Yeah Carrick jibbed the 2010 squad.

Bellends like that ought to be told to go fuck theirselves from then on in IMO.

That would require a modicum of integrity from the FA and which ever England manager is in charge at the time though so I won't hold my breath.

Personally I'd have taken cole and left shaw at home but there ya go.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on May 12, 2014, 04:04:06 AM
Didn't someone refuse at 2010 to go on standby?

Was it Carrick?

He's missed out this time as well apparently. And the petition against Cleverly seems to have worked as well.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 12, 2014, 04:10:05 AM
Would take Carrick over Lampard all day long.

If Carrick isn't going, it does slightly increase the chance of Barry going. Although he hasn't had a look in under Hodgson so my gut feeling is he won't be going.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 12, 2014, 04:13:52 AM
Media have got shaw in the squad. Cole and baines are better players
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 12, 2014, 04:18:21 AM
Media have got shaw in the squad. Cole and baines are better players
Baines will be in the squad as well.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 12, 2014, 04:21:05 AM
Baines will be in the squad as well.
obviously. Ssn are talking like shaw will start, baines is totally overlooked
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 12, 2014, 04:28:12 AM
It's mad how many people I'm seeing saying Cole (and Shaw) is better than Baines  :bonk: :bonk: :bonk:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 12, 2014, 04:32:25 AM
It's mad how many people I'm seeing saying Cole (and Shaw) is better than Baines  :bonk: :bonk: :bonk:

How many girlfriends do you have?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 12, 2014, 04:34:21 AM
How many girlfriends do you have?

And surely you have better things to do with them than talk about the merits of Cole and Shaw?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 12, 2014, 04:38:01 AM
Took me way too long to get onto that.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 12, 2014, 04:38:08 AM
Should we read anything into the fact he said "people" rather than "girlfriends"?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 12, 2014, 04:39:19 AM
It's mad how many people I'm seeing saying Cole (and Shaw) is better than Baines  :bonk: :bonk: :bonk:

Anyway, enough of the shit jokes. You're right, it does seem to be a popular view. I suppose people have seen Cole as a great player for England for a long time, and people are attached to that idea, and then people are very attached to the idea of 'the future' and Shaw represents that. Obviously, they're missing out the fact that the present (Baines) is comfortably the best player of the three at the moment.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on May 12, 2014, 04:40:14 AM
Cole's now announced that he's retired from international football.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 12, 2014, 04:42:25 AM
I think Cole is still worthy of his place in the squad,  the fact that Mourinho has barely used him recently has swung it Shaw's way.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on May 12, 2014, 04:44:13 AM
Cole's now announced that he's retired from international football.

Good riddance. Not that I give a fuck about England anyway. Although I will say I'm still available for selection.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 12, 2014, 04:46:35 AM
Cole's now announced that he's retired from international football.

Can just see him having a tantrum about it and thinking that's the best way to protest.

In fairness his decision to retire from England makes sense.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on May 12, 2014, 04:47:39 AM

Cole's now announced that he's retired from international football.
Funny how players do that immediately after not being picked. Retiring from something that you're no longer being chosen for.
It's a bit like getting sacked from your job and then handing your notice in.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 12, 2014, 04:48:07 AM
Can just see him having a tantrum about it and thinking that's the best way to protest.

In fairness his decision to retire from England makes sense.

It does have a 'toys out of the pram' feel about it though.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on May 12, 2014, 04:52:00 AM
Can just see him having a tantrum about it and thinking that's the best way to protest.

In fairness his decision to retire from England makes sense.

He's just saving face so that when he's never picked again he can say it was his decision.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 12, 2014, 04:58:12 AM
Flanagan or Gibbs in reserve I guess now. Probably Gibbs considering Flanagan hasn't even played for the U21's!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on May 12, 2014, 05:20:49 AM
Barkley, Milner, Lampard, Henderson and Lallana all in apparently.

The press will have the whole squad before Roy even announces it.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 12, 2014, 05:22:03 AM
Barkley, Milner, Lampard, Henderson and Lallana all in apparently.

The press will have the whole squad before Roy even announces it.

Don't really see why Lampard is in, based on this season.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 12, 2014, 05:24:49 AM
Don't really see why Lampard is in, based on this season.

I think with Henderson, Barkley, lallana, sterling and ox, lampard gives the squad some balance.

I'd rather take carrack myself though
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 12, 2014, 05:27:53 AM
Also, I think it's only fair to say how fucking good Ashley cole was for England.

The only one of the 'golden generation' to actually play well for England.

True great IMO
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on May 12, 2014, 05:28:23 AM
I think with Henderson, Barkley, lallana, sterling and ox, lampard gives the squad some balance.

I'd rather take carrack myself though

That and experience I think, it's going to be a fairly young team without a huge amount of tournament football behind them.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on May 12, 2014, 05:36:25 AM
More snippets coming out. Kyle Walker not in the squad, hardly surprising given how little he's played recently.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 12, 2014, 06:06:47 AM
Going into a World Cup with Johnson and Smalling as right backs. Dear god.

Lampard is vice captain isn't he?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 12, 2014, 06:15:34 AM
Kyle Walker's injured I think.

That and he's the fucking pits at football.

If Barry's not in the squad it will be a scandal. And I hope it doesn't encourage him to take early retirement out in the MLS.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 12, 2014, 06:17:25 AM
Going into a World Cup with Johnson and Smalling as right backs. Dear god.

Lampard is vice captain isn't he?

Is he? I suppose he's probably a good tourist and a team man as well. Just don't see the point of having Gerrard and Lampard.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 12, 2014, 06:20:49 AM
Is he? I suppose he's probably a good tourist and a team man as well. Just don't see the point of having Gerrard and Lampard.

I'd like this to be both of their last tournaments for England
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 12, 2014, 02:51:12 PM
Also, I think it's only fair to say how fucking good Ashley cole was for England.

The only one of the 'golden generation' to actually play well for England.

True great IMO
He was certainly the only one who showed up at tournaments
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 12, 2014, 02:51:55 PM
I'd like this to be both of their last tournaments for England
I think this could be their 6th tournament together and we still havent worked out how to play them together
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on May 12, 2014, 08:49:03 PM
Does anyone know when Fifa is announcing the new ball for World Cup. This is my favourite part pre World Cup. How will it fly through the air, is it made for long balls or crossing? Does it bounce true? How goalkeepers won't have a chance to stop it?

Come on World Cup!!!!!!!!!'

Bring it on!!!!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Goaljira on May 12, 2014, 09:14:51 PM
Hasn't it been released?  I'm sure there's a space for it in the sticker book.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Goaljira on May 12, 2014, 09:15:53 PM
Yep, here it is.

http://www.footballwood.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/brazuca-ball-for-fifa-world-cup-2014.jpg (http://www.footballwood.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/brazuca-ball-for-fifa-world-cup-2014.jpg)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 13, 2014, 01:46:36 AM
Arshavin, Pavlyuchenko and Billy all left out of the Russian squad.


Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on May 13, 2014, 02:03:41 AM
Hasn't Bily's career gone pretty pear shaped since he came to us?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 13, 2014, 02:25:21 AM
Hasn't Bily's career gone pretty pear shaped since he came to us?

Since he CAME to us yes. Even worse since he left!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 13, 2014, 03:55:29 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adidas_Brazuca (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adidas_Brazuca)

here you go Con

Was it the last world cup where everyone was saying it was like playing with a flyaway?

I don't see why they mess with the ball too much.  If they opened up a school bank account with £1 and got a Size 5 Mitre Magma and played with that it would do just fine!I might be alienating every single forum member apart from Brap2 with that comment!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Heisenberg on May 13, 2014, 06:33:48 AM
Arshavin, Pavlyuchenko and Billy all left out of the Russian squad.


Where's arshavin now?

I remember we was linked with him then arsenal came in, I was absolutely gutted, thought he was the next big thing.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: NomadskiEFC on May 13, 2014, 08:41:06 AM
Hasn't it been released?  I'm sure there's a space for it in the sticker book.

Meant to quote instead of 'liking' and then I saw you found it anyway in the next post. hurrah for reading comprehension!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 13, 2014, 07:19:51 PM
Goalkeepers Casillas, Reina, De Gea

Defenders Azpilicueta, Piqué, Ramos, Jordi Alba, Alberto Moreno, Javi Martínez, Albiol, Juanfran, Carvajal

Midfielders Busquets, Xabi Alonso, Koke, Iturraspe, Xavi, Thiago, Pedro, Navas, Silva, Cesc, Mata, Cazorla, Iniesta

Forwards Costa, Villa, Torres, Negredo, Llorente




That's the 30 man squad, no Isco.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 13, 2014, 07:40:10 PM
Dzeko top scorer 66/1

I think that's worth a couple of quid, Iran are in their group afterall.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 13, 2014, 07:41:18 PM
Is it too soon to start a World Cup predictions thread?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 13, 2014, 07:46:52 PM
Annoyed Januzaj is in the squad after pissing about all summer.

dark horses for the cup like??

GK: Courtois, Mignolet, Casteels/Proto
Defenders: Alderweireld, Vanden Borre, Ciman, Kompany, Van Buyten, Vermaelen, Lombaerts, Vertonghen
Midfielders: Witsel, Defour, Fellaini, Dembélé, Chadli, De Bruyne
Attackers: Lukaku, Origi, Hazard, Mertens, Mirallas, Januzaj

Reserves: Nainggolan, Pocognoli, Thorgan Hazard, Gillet, Batshuayi, Van Damme
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 13, 2014, 08:12:28 PM
Traore in the ivory Coast squad
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 13, 2014, 08:31:57 PM
Does anyone know when Fifa is announcing the new ball for World Cup. This is my favourite part pre World Cup. How will it fly through the air, is it made for long balls or crossing? Does it bounce true? How goalkeepers won't have a chance to stop it?

Come on World Cup!!!!!!!!!'

Bring it on!!!!!
they should just bring back the orange tango and use that
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on May 13, 2014, 08:52:13 PM
@sirstealth thanks, the ball looks great. Love a new ball will be buying and testing it out in the park. Will put my kid in goal and try and score some 30 yarders. Makes me feel like not such a failure in football.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on May 13, 2014, 08:53:16 PM
Van Damme in the Belgian squad. Loved him in blood sport
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: cantoffee on May 14, 2014, 01:02:21 AM
Don't see the fuss with that Belgium squad.

Some very good players but some very average ones as well.

Only 1 true striker in Lukaku who is good but not that good. Poor at fullback and the midfield doesn't even seem that strong either.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 14, 2014, 01:10:47 AM
Don't see the fuss with that Belgium squad.

Some very good players but some very average ones as well.

Only 1 true striker in Lukaku who is good but not that good. Poor at fullback and the midfield doesn't even seem that strong either.
I think the midfield is quite strong. Witsel, fellaini, Defour, cahdli, de bruyn, dembele all very good players.
Januzaj, mirallas, hazard, martens offer good width. Rest I agree with you tho
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on May 14, 2014, 01:17:35 AM
Has Batshuayi been picked for Belgium?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 14, 2014, 01:18:23 AM
Has Batshuayi been picked for Belgium?
reserve list
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 14, 2014, 01:25:14 AM
Italy have named their provisional 30:

Goalkeepers: Buffon, Perin, Sirigu, Mirante

Defenders: Abate, Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini, Darmian, De Sciglio, Maggio, Paletta, Pasqual, Ranocchia

Midfielders: Aquilani, Candreva, De Rossi, Marchisio, Montolivo, Motta, Parolo,Pirlo, Romulo, Verratti

Forwards: Balotelli, Cassano, Cerci, Destro, Immobile, Insigne, Rossi

So lots of good options up front, but no Totti :(

Not much room for youth except for Verratti and De Sciglio. I hope Verratti makes the 23.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 14, 2014, 01:38:14 AM
How old is destro
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 14, 2014, 01:40:15 AM
How old is destro

23. Doubt he'll make the 23 though
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 14, 2014, 01:46:47 AM
Apart from Insigne and cerci, there's fuck all pace in that side.

Has Luca Toni retired? Surely he deserves a place in the squad after the season he's had
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 14, 2014, 01:53:50 AM
Apart from Insigne and cerci, there's fuck all pace in that side.

Has Luca Toni retired? Surely he deserves a place in the squad after the season he's had

Nah he's not retired. He was available for selection and in with a shout. But at 36 he was unlikely to get a call up as Italy have a number of good forwards.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 14, 2014, 01:56:14 AM
Italy have named their provisional 30:

Goalkeepers: Buffon, Perin, Sirigu, Mirante

Defenders: Abate, Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini, Darmian, De Sciglio, Maggio, Paletta, Pasqual, Ranocchia

Midfielders: Aquilani, Candreva, De Rossi, Marchisio, Montolivo, Motta, Parolo,Pirlo, Romulo, Verratti

Forwards: Balotelli, Cassano, Cerci, Destro, Immobile, Insigne, Rossi

So lots of good options up front, but no Totti :(

Not much room for youth except for Verratti and De Sciglio. I hope Verratti makes the 23.

Don't know anything about Parolo and Romulo (is he an adopted Brazilian, or am I thinking of someone else?). Any chance of a scouting report?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 14, 2014, 01:58:53 AM
Thought Giaccherini might have got in, he doesn't deserve to but Prandelli has his favourites.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 14, 2014, 02:00:16 AM
Don't know anything about Parolo and Romulo (is he an adopted Brazilian, or am I thinking of someone else?). Any chance of a scouting report?

Not too sure about Romulo. He is Brazilian born and he's a bit of utility player. Plays for Verona who have had a good season. Think he's almost certain to be cut.

Parolo is a typical Italian player who's had loads of clubs and has all of a sudden become good in his later years. He's been important for a good Parma side this year. He plays in central midfield and is less of a ball player and more of a goal scorer. For that reason he offers something a bit different and I think he'll make the squad at the expense of Aquilani who is a bit similar to Montolivo and Thiago Motta.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 14, 2014, 02:05:05 AM
A World Cup in the heat of Brazil is made for the genius of Andrea Pirlo.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on May 14, 2014, 02:15:12 AM
reserve list

What about that other lad ofedo or whatever, who everyone thought would be the new Vieira after his youtubes?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 14, 2014, 02:19:29 AM
What about that other lad ofedo or whatever, who everyone thought would be the new Vieira after his youtubes?
nope
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 14, 2014, 02:20:51 AM
Who was the belgian lad everyone was saying we should sign this summer on a free cos he ripped his contract up?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 14, 2014, 02:22:42 AM
Who was the belgian lad everyone was saying we should sign this summer on a free cos he ripped his contract up?

Fernandes
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on May 14, 2014, 02:24:58 AM
Who was the belgian lad everyone was saying we should sign this summer on a free cos he ripped his contract up?

Dat Der Spoilybastard?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 14, 2014, 02:30:24 AM
Both valid answers but alas both wrong
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on May 14, 2014, 02:31:23 AM
Alderweireld? Defour? Witsel?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 14, 2014, 02:32:24 AM
No he isn't in the squad. There was quite a few of fifa, fm crew saying we had to get him..
 Fucks his name
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 14, 2014, 02:32:55 AM
Malanda?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 14, 2014, 02:34:35 AM
Malanda?
that's the fucker
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 14, 2014, 02:39:41 AM
He's a beast on fifa to be fair
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 14, 2014, 02:54:15 AM
Di Santo ahead of tevez apparently for Argentina. Di Santo at all is crazy actually.

Straq couldn't have been far off
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 14, 2014, 03:44:58 AM
Di Santo ahead of tevez apparently for Argentina. Di Santo at all is crazy actually.

Straq couldn't have been far off

That's comical.

Tell you what else is bonkers. Nasri has been left out of the French squad!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 14, 2014, 03:47:56 AM
Tevez hasn't featured for Argentina for a few years. The management don't think he's arsed about international football.

Di Santo ahead of him though. That's the squad selection equivalent of being slapped round the face with a wet kipper
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 14, 2014, 03:54:00 AM
Tevez hasn't featured for Argentina for a few years. The management don't think he's arsed about international football.

Di Santo ahead of him though. That's the squad selection equivalent of being slapped round the face with a wet kipper

Yea I read last week that Tevez has been in the international wilderness for some time. He likes a good falling out now and then so that probably explains his absence. Di Santo though....I mean what the fuck?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 14, 2014, 04:00:45 PM
I have about a 100 WC swaps and need another 176 stickers now so if anyone wants to do a postal swap PM me, probably be easier to look to swap a minimum of 10 at a time but as many as possible.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 14, 2014, 07:39:26 PM
The Dutch squad has been announced

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27402627 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27402627)

Lots of young, inexperienced players, a fair few past-it older players like Sneijder, van der Vaart, Kuyt.

I can see them failing to deliver and crashing out in the group stages
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 14, 2014, 07:55:07 PM
The Dutch squad has been announced

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27402627 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27402627)

Lots of young, inexperienced players, a fair few past-it older players like Sneijder, van der Vaart, Kuyt.

I can see them failing to deliver and crashing out in the group stages

Yeah I went for them as my flops of the tournament. Not a massive amount to get inspired about with them, and Spain and Chile in the group could prove to be problematic for them.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 14, 2014, 08:20:38 PM
Quite a few unfamiliar names in that Dutch party. Thought Heitinga and Steklenberg would be in it.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 15, 2014, 08:01:04 AM
Tim Cahill in the Australian squad :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on May 15, 2014, 01:53:06 PM
Tevez doesn't work in a team with Messi and Aguero. Where would he play? On the bench?
He complains and causes trouble when he doesn't start. Best leave him at home.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 15, 2014, 03:59:19 PM
Some info on the domestic UK TV coverage of the tournament:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/13/tottenham-andros-townsend-world-cup-callup-itv-pundits (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/13/tottenham-andros-townsend-world-cup-callup-itv-pundits)

Andros Townsend, Fabio Cannavaro and Gus Poyet doing the ITV coverage with accompanying gobshites Chiles and the other Townsend. BBC unveiling Henry, Phil Neville and Rio for it's coverage.

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bob Sacamano on May 15, 2014, 04:07:59 PM
Some info on the domestic UK TV coverage of the tournament:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/13/tottenham-andros-townsend-world-cup-callup-itv-pundits (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/13/tottenham-andros-townsend-world-cup-callup-itv-pundits)

Andros Townsend, Fabio Cannavaro and Gus Poyet doing the ITV coverage with accompanying gobshites Chiles and the other Townsend. BBC unveiling Henry, Phil Neville and Rio for it's coverage.




 :love:

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 15, 2014, 04:19:50 PM
The mrs will be pleased with cannavaro
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 15, 2014, 06:34:18 PM
The BBC has announced Juninho (the Middlesbrough) one as part of their, quote, "star-studded line-up". They've gone about it wrong. It's not like the bigger your rep as a player the more you know about football. I wish they'd get some knowledgeable football journalists (contradiction in terms, I know) in for a change.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 15, 2014, 07:06:00 PM
Rio Ferdinand??
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 15, 2014, 07:10:36 PM
The BBC has announced Juninho (the Middlesbrough) one as part of their, quote, "star-studded line-up". They've gone about it wrong. It's not like the bigger your rep as a player the more you know about football. I wish they'd get some knowledgeable football journalists (contradiction in terms, I know) in for a change.

Completely agree.

Rio Ferdinand??

I'm afraid so.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on May 15, 2014, 07:13:46 PM
Rio Ferdinand??

I suppose at least he's been there and done it, but Andros Townsend??

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 15, 2014, 07:13:49 PM
Completely agree.

I'm afraid so.
Jesus wept
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on May 15, 2014, 07:36:52 PM
I wonder if we could try and enjoy the World Cup as a footballing spectacle and not have games taken over by just moaning about commentary and pundits?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 15, 2014, 07:37:23 PM
I wonder if we could try and enjoy the World Cup as a footballing spectacle and not have games taken over by just moaning about commentary and pundits?
Dont be daft :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on May 15, 2014, 07:40:50 PM
Dont be daft :)

It was just a thought, well more a request. :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 15, 2014, 07:56:38 PM
Should have Adebayor commentating.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 19, 2014, 04:36:46 PM
Massive tournament for Lionel Messi. If he is to be remembered to be as great as Maradona he needs to own at least 1 world cup. He was shite in 2010!Paolo Wanchope still has more world cup goals than him, and Peter Crouch
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Goaljira on May 20, 2014, 03:11:40 AM

I wonder if we could try and enjoy the World Cup as a footballing spectacle and not have games taken over by just moaning about commentary and pundits?

The group games are more often than not far from a footballing spectacle with teams desperate not to lose.  You have a couple of them in a day, and then Andy Townsend pops up on the last game you're going to get some ranting.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 20, 2014, 03:19:23 AM
There's no earthly way we are going to get through any significant tournament without commenting on the commentary/punditry. It's an essential part of the experience. Hopefully there will be some instances where we can praise the pundits and broadcasters when they do it well.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on May 20, 2014, 04:47:14 AM
There's no earthly way we are going to get through any significant tournament without commenting on the commentary/punditry. It's an essential part of the experience. Hopefully there will be some instances where we can praise the pundits and broadcasters when they do it well.

Getting through 45 minutes would be a start for you.  ;)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 20, 2014, 04:48:56 AM
Getting through 45 minutes would be a start for you.  ;)

I'm touched that you pay attention to what I say, big man.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on May 20, 2014, 04:49:57 AM
I'm touched that you pay attention to what I say, big man.

I can't miss it. :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 20, 2014, 05:14:38 AM
Fuck all wrong with moaning at the commentators. Particularly when they're as ignorant as the itv gobshites.

It's all part of the fun
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on May 20, 2014, 05:29:19 AM
Fuck all wrong with moaning at the commentators. Particularly when they're as ignorant as the itv gobshites.

It's all part of the fun

No, and I've enjoyed a good moan myself. But when it takes over pretty much every game discussion it isn't much fun, and reading some of the stuff it's certainly not posted for fun, it's a serious business.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 20, 2014, 05:30:27 AM
Lawro's commentary on Spain 4-0 Italy still haunts me.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 21, 2014, 05:16:55 AM
Roy's started his preparation early for the Italy game.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/20/roy-hodgson-england-italy-world-cup (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/20/roy-hodgson-england-italy-world-cup)

Surely he won't set up the same way as in the Euros, with 2 banks of four against their diamond.

My prediction: Italy will set up with a diamond in midfield and England will set up to stop Pirlo, on the basis that if you stop Pirlo you stop Italy. But Prandelli will throw a curve ball and have Verratti as one of the shuttlers one the flanks, undoing England's preparation as they have two playmakers to deal with. The result, a win for Italy.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ell Capitan on May 22, 2014, 12:43:04 AM
Just found out I have to be at a wedding during the England Italy game. And it's an American wedding, so no one else there will understand just how outrageous it is that I have to be there.

Absolutely fuckin gutted.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 22, 2014, 01:15:36 AM
Just found out I have to be at a wedding during the England Italy game. And it's an American wedding, so no one else there will understand just how outrageous it is that I have to be there.

Absolutely fuckin gutted.

Wow.  Imagine if you get England or Italy in the sweep!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ell Capitan on May 22, 2014, 01:19:39 AM
Wow.  Imagine if you get England or Italy in the sweep!

Or Uruguay, Costa Rica, Ivory Coast, or Japan. Apparently the married couple don't have the good sense to keep the festivities to a concise 90 minutes.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on May 22, 2014, 05:25:22 AM
Just found out I have to be at a wedding during the England Italy game. And it's an American wedding, so no one else there will understand just how outrageous it is that I have to be there.

Absolutely fuckin gutted.

Where do you live in the States?

I had to go to a wedding in 1990. England and Italy were playing that day. England lost 2-1 in the 3rd 4th place play off. That was in England too.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ell Capitan on May 22, 2014, 05:36:29 AM
Been living in DC for the last 2 years. Usually timing of football works in your favour here, what better way to spend your mornings on the weekend...
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on May 22, 2014, 06:50:36 AM
Exactly. I love early morning kick offs.

My missus was in DC today with her daughter on a school field trip.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ell Capitan on May 22, 2014, 10:09:12 AM
Ah nice. You live nearby?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on May 22, 2014, 10:12:05 AM
About 3 hours. South Jersey.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 22, 2014, 02:11:59 PM
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/world-cup-2014/380028/Good-news-for-England-Liverpool-s-Luis-Suarez-s-World-Cup-dreams-on-a-knife-edge (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/world-cup-2014/380028/Good-news-for-England-Liverpool-s-Luis-Suarez-s-World-Cup-dreams-on-a-knife-edge)

Holy shit he is human and How long has colin harvey wrote for the star, surely we can look after him better than this
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 22, 2014, 03:53:36 PM
Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on May 22, 2014, 04:00:33 PM
Is there a god? Or is it just karma for this?....


(http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Uruguays-Luis-Suarez-Hand-Of-God.gif)

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: GLewis on May 22, 2014, 04:37:22 PM
Just means he'll be fully rested for the start of pre-season...
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 22, 2014, 04:51:11 PM
Just means he'll be fully rested for the start of pre-season...
For his Real Madrid medical?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 22, 2014, 05:27:24 PM
Nice piece on Bainesy with a couple of good book recommendations thrown in for good measure:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/21/leighton-baines-roy-hodgson-england-world-cup-barzil (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/21/leighton-baines-roy-hodgson-england-world-cup-barzil)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: GLewis on May 22, 2014, 07:09:39 PM
Nice piece on Bainesy with a couple of good book recommendations thrown in for good measure:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/21/leighton-baines-roy-hodgson-england-world-cup-barzil (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/21/leighton-baines-roy-hodgson-england-world-cup-barzil)

Even if there is still mild shock at a footballer reading (mainly in the tabloids); at least there isn't widespread sniggering these days.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 22, 2014, 10:54:30 PM
If these squad numbers are to go by no real shocks in starting xi

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 22, 2014, 11:05:40 PM
8 of the positions are nailed on anyway.

Hart
Johnson Cahill Jagielka Baines
Gerrard CM
Winger Rooney Winger
Sturridge

I'm hoping for Milner on the right (because Johnson is horrendous) and Lallana on the left. Henderson or Wilshere at centre mid.

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: bacon sarnie on May 22, 2014, 11:49:13 PM
England have a better shot at getting out of the group stages now that ratshit is recovering from knee surgery.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on May 23, 2014, 01:15:38 AM
Is there a god? Or is it just karma for this?....


(http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Uruguays-Luis-Suarez-Hand-Of-God.gif)



I was at that game, 90 000 of us wanted him dead...
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 23, 2014, 01:56:28 AM
I will probably get slated for this but I defend Suarez for that handball!

He accepted the consequences of his actions and was banned.  He didn't do that and his team was out of the world cup.  Him doing that got them into the next round

If it was me in a World Cup Quarter Final for either England or China I would do exactly the same and hope that Joe Hart/Yang Zhi saved the penalty

He is a despicable person obvs but I can see why he did it
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on May 23, 2014, 02:07:45 AM
I will probably get slated for this but I defend Suarez for that handball!

He accepted the consequences of his actions and was banned.  He didn't do that and his team was out of the world cup.  Him doing that got them into the next round

If it was me in a World Cup Quarter Final for either England or China I would do exactly the same and hope that Joe Hart/Yang Zhi saved the penalty

He is a despicable person obvs but I can see why he did it

This is true. ANd I do agree.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on May 23, 2014, 02:15:24 AM
I will probably get slated for this but I defend Suarez for that handball!

He accepted the consequences of his actions and was banned.  He didn't do that and his team was out of the world cup.  Him doing that got them into the next round

If it was me in a World Cup Quarter Final for either England or China I would do exactly the same and hope that Joe Hart/Yang Zhi saved the penalty

He is a despicable person obvs but I can see why he did it

I think it was more his reaction when they missed the penalty that people questioned. In a way what he did is a natural reaction, much like Neville against Liverpool. But he left the pitch in tears then celebrated like mad man when the penalty was missed.

Fast forward to about 1 minute, it sums up the cunt that he is.

★ Suarez Handball Ghana Uruguay ★ 720p (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcQkwxEGRYc#ws)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 23, 2014, 02:15:44 AM
I will probably get slated for this but I defend Suarez for that handball!

He accepted the consequences of his actions and was banned.  He didn't do that and his team was out of the world cup.  Him doing that got them into the next round

If it was me in a World Cup Quarter Final for either England or China I would do exactly the same and hope that Joe Hart/Yang Zhi saved the penalty

He is a despicable person obvs but I can see why he did it
I'd do it every time
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 23, 2014, 02:23:23 AM
I'm with stealth on this one.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 23, 2014, 02:24:58 AM
I think in the cold light of day, the vast majority of people would do the same, myself included. It was just the reaction afterwards, as Gash said, and the fact that he succeeded.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on May 23, 2014, 02:30:31 AM
Oh yeah most people in those circumstances would have done what he did, but like @Gash (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=14) said it was more the aftermath that confirmed him an utter cunt. He's so far out there on his own as a complete gobshite it's impossible to think of another player who's been close to this level.


Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 23, 2014, 02:32:54 AM
Would have loved Phil Neville to run off celebrating if the shite missed their pen.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on May 23, 2014, 02:34:42 AM
You have to give him loads of credit for being there in the first place. He blocked a shot on the line and was there for the follow up. And he was the only center forwards on the pitch for them.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 23, 2014, 02:38:51 AM
Why wouldn't he react like that though?

His actions have just been justified.

If Suarez is Naismith, Uruguay are Everton and Ghana are Liverpool and the same thing happened I would be over the moon and hailing him a hero!

Just to clarify though, if Steven Naismith racially abused or bit an opposition player I would want him out of our club!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on May 23, 2014, 03:30:08 AM
No one's disputing the hand ball, yes we'd be happy if one of our players took one for the team so to speak. Most players without the cunt gene would have seen what they did was cheating and would have probably displayed a bit if restraint and dignity when the penalty was missed. Personally if one of our players behaved like that after being sent off I'd be disappointed in the player if not the outcome.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 23, 2014, 03:57:38 AM
I was at that game, 90 000 of us wanted him dead...

I was in that stadium about a week earlier for Argentina - Mexico.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on May 23, 2014, 04:03:25 AM
I was in that stadium about a week earlier for Argentina - Mexico.

It's an awesome stadium. How did you find it?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 23, 2014, 04:17:45 AM
It's an awesome stadium. How did you find it?

Yea it's enormous. I was about 3/4 of the way from the back, so view wasn't great because I was so away from the pitch. Looks good from the outside as well.

It was the same day England lost 4-1 to Germany earlier in the afternoon so I wasn't in the best of moods. I had been to USA- Ghana the night before in Rustenberg, and been to an outdoor party in the bush somewhere until 6am, drove back  to Jozi (my mate drove) and had no sleep. So by the end of that day I was a complete mess.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on May 23, 2014, 04:18:03 AM
It's an awesome stadium. How did you find it?

Sat nav.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on May 23, 2014, 04:21:59 AM
Sat nav.

You can see it from anywhere in JHB. Not like you have fog in the way either
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on May 23, 2014, 04:25:55 AM
No one's disputing the hand ball, yes we'd be happy if one of our players took one for the team so to speak. Most players without the cunt gene would have seen what they did was cheating and would have probably displayed a bit if restraint and dignity when the penalty was missed. Personally if one of our players behaved like that after being sent off I'd be disappointed in the player if not the outcome.

If an Everton player ever reacted like that in a similar situation he'd lose any respect from me.

In fact if I remember correct wasn't there all kinds of gamesmanship going on after the ref awarded it as well ? Pretending nothing happened and then not leaving the pitch? The fellas a grade A cunt and like I said earlier I really can't think of another footballer I've ever seen who's been such a horrible devious cheating bastard.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 23, 2014, 04:41:01 AM
It's an awesome stadium. How did you find it?

Here I am, trying my hardest to look happy, despite having not slept for 2 days and England losing 4-1 only a couple of hours earlier.

(http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr240/mikeycharlton/wc.jpg)

and view from inside the stadium

(http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr240/mikeycharlton/arg.jpg)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 23, 2014, 04:41:37 AM
him pretending he was innocent of the handball was a typical horrible bastard thing to do!not defending that!

The ferocity of his celebrations can certainly be questioned as well

Imagine what you would be like same scenario though supporting Everton against Liverpool and seeing that happen!

would be a 'limbs' moment I reckon!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on May 23, 2014, 05:01:16 AM
him pretending he was innocent of the handball was a typical horrible bastard thing to do!not defending that!

The ferocity of his celebrations can certainly be questioned as well

Imagine what you would be like same scenario though supporting Everton against Liverpool and seeing that happen!

would be a 'limbs' moment I reckon!

I'd still be disappointed in one of our players acting in the same manner as Suarez.

Anyway, in other news, Landon Donovan has missed the cut for the final 23 of the USA squad. Not only that but Jose Altidore has got in so it makes you wonder how poor Donovan has been?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 23, 2014, 05:06:29 AM
I'd still be disappointed in one of our players acting in the same manner as Suarez.

Anyway, in other news, Landon Donovan has missed the cut for the final 23 of the USA squad. Not only that but Jose Altidore has got in so it makes you wonder how poor Donovan has been?

that's fucking ludicrous!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 23, 2014, 05:07:15 AM
Woah shock on Donovan not making it!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 23, 2014, 05:08:05 AM
Some bloke with a pancake on his called deidre is in it tho, them crazy yanks
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 23, 2014, 05:19:13 AM
Ha ha and Damarcus beasley. Donovan must be awful nowadays
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 23, 2014, 05:20:43 AM
He's still scored more than Ronaldo and Messi combined in world cups.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 23, 2014, 05:23:48 AM
Young players with potential getting into World Cup squads and in the final 23 without playing a game for the international team is pissing me off. First Januzaj and now Julian Green.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 23, 2014, 05:45:22 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/22/paul-dummett-newcastle-luis-suarez (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/22/paul-dummett-newcastle-luis-suarez)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 23, 2014, 07:47:35 AM
Not going XI

Off the top of my head:


Cech
Coleman Terry Distin Felipe Luiz
Ramsey Isco
Nasri Tevez Bale
Ibrahimovic


I'm sure you more cultured posters can come up with better.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: BrotherEstapol on May 23, 2014, 11:13:02 AM
Time to post this in the right thread!!! >_>


Donovan has missed out.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-23/donovan-left-out-of-united-states-squad/5472650?section=sport (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-23/donovan-left-out-of-united-states-squad/5472650?section=sport)

Not going XI

Off the top of my head:


Cech
Coleman Terry Distin Felipe Luiz
Ramsey Isco
Nasri Tevez Bale
Ibrahimovic



I'm sure you more cultured posters can come up with better.

Lewandowksi
Falcao(thought he could still?)
Oviedo :)
Ivanovic
Coutinho
And as above Donovan

Not sure who would get in the 11 mind you, but the ones I mentioned would certainly get on the bench.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 23, 2014, 04:47:52 PM
Klinsmanns son. Deleted his twitter now after this blew up, what a gobshite......

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoStAWPIYAAzlSj.jpg)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: cantoffee on May 23, 2014, 10:23:45 PM
Klinsman is an idiot though and a poor manager.

Pretty sure he didn't include Messi or Ronaldo in his top 3 for Ballon D'Or this year. He's stone stupid and likes to "shake things up" just for the sake of it.

Donovan is still one of their best players and even if he didn't fit in the system is the kind of player you need to take with you. Scores big goals consistently for the US. Who else is a consistent scorer for them, Altidore?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on May 25, 2014, 01:45:03 AM
Have we done a WC best 11 yet?

                                                                   
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on May 25, 2014, 01:56:04 AM
                                                                  Courtois

Alaba                                  Pique                            Silva                                     Baines

                                                     
                                                       Pirlo                            Modric

                               Ronaldo                            Messi                                Schweinstieger


                                                                      Falcao/Costa depending on who's fit.         
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 25, 2014, 02:51:11 AM
Plenty of gaps there for the opposition to expose!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 25, 2014, 03:00:34 AM
Swap Lahm for Alaba and Iniesta for Schweinsteiger and I think that's a decent team.

Not only is Alaba a left back, but he's also Austrian!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on May 25, 2014, 07:13:32 AM
                        Buffon
Lahm-----Kompany-----Silva-----Alba
                  Pirlo-----Toure
       Ronaldo---Messi---Hazard
                     Suarez
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 25, 2014, 09:55:47 PM
Just in case anyone's wondering if there's anything decent to watch on TV in June/July:

http://www.live-footballontv.com/live-world-cup-football-on-tv.html (http://www.live-footballontv.com/live-world-cup-football-on-tv.html)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 26, 2014, 12:53:33 AM
Good article from Michael Cox offering a tactical overview of some of the best sides

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/may/25/world-cup-2014-contenders-brazil-argentina-germany (http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/may/25/world-cup-2014-contenders-brazil-argentina-germany)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 26, 2014, 01:02:46 AM
Good article from Michael Cox offering a tactical overview of some of the best sides

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/may/25/world-cup-2014-contenders-brazil-argentina-germany (http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/may/25/world-cup-2014-contenders-brazil-argentina-germany)

Good read. I suppose it's just been ordered in terms of odds to win, but quite revealing that he doesn't even deem Holland worthy of a mention, nor Chile or Croatia, nor any of the African teams. Would've been interested to hear his assessment of their strengths and weaknesses as well.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 26, 2014, 01:09:08 AM
Good read. I suppose it's just been ordered in terms of odds to win, but quite revealing that he doesn't even deem Holland worthy of a mention, nor Chile or Croatia, nor any of the African teams. Would've been interested to hear his assessment of their strengths and weaknesses as well.

Chile would have been a good one. They're my surprise package. They're tactically interesting as well.

I hadn't considered Croatia until I realised the other day that their midfield three could be Modric, Kovacic and Rakitic. Very dangerous.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 26, 2014, 01:14:05 AM
Chile would have been a good one. They're my surprise package. They're tactically interesting as well.

I hadn't considered Croatia until I realised the other day that their midfield three could be Modric, Kovacic and Rakitic. Very dangerous.

I went for Brazil to win, but I'm starting to think more and more about Spain again. Looking at possible starting 11s, Brazil do look fairly ordinary in comparison.

Really hope Chile make it far, and think there's a genuine chance of that. You're right about Croatia -  not talked about too much but that midfield is potentially exceptional, with Halilovic as an option off the bench maybe as well. I went for France as my surprise package, mostly because of their draw, Pogba, Varane and Benzema's good season, but fuck knows what you're gonna get with them. Could easily disappear in the group stages.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on May 26, 2014, 09:49:31 AM
Belgium seemed to have lost their flavout which is good for them. Definite dark horse I think.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Analog Kid on May 27, 2014, 04:02:00 AM
Just in case anyone's wondering if there's anything decent to watch on TV in June/July:

http://www.live-footballontv.com/live-world-cup-football-on-tv.html (http://www.live-footballontv.com/live-world-cup-football-on-tv.html)

Boss that, can't wait.

I'll be watching all but two of those in my house or at work. The odd two I'll be watching in a plush hotel in Chester.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: littlejudda on May 27, 2014, 03:55:08 PM
 :titanic: Argentina,  best squad equipped for high altitude football
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 28, 2014, 01:59:14 AM
France v Norway, if anyone's bored:

http://cricfree.eu/bt-sport-1.php (http://cricfree.eu/bt-sport-1.php)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 28, 2014, 02:47:22 AM
France v Norway, if anyone's bored:

http://cricfree.eu/bt-sport-1.php (http://cricfree.eu/bt-sport-1.php)

With Cabaye, Pogba and Matuidi, France have an almost perfect balance in the middle. They might be an outside bet if they can keep their act together.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 28, 2014, 02:51:45 AM
With Cabaye, Pogba and Matuidi, France have an almost perfect balance in the middle. They might be an outside bet if they can keep their act together.

Look good don't they? Still a bit ropey at the back, but those three are excellent. Also still to get Benzema and Varane back and Griezmann looks excellent, as he has for Sociedad.

You watch Serie A a lot. Is Pogba as fantastic as I have convinced myself he is in the brief times I've seen him?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 28, 2014, 03:03:02 AM
Look good don't they? Still a bit ropey at the back, but those three are excellent. Also still to get Benzema and Varane back and Griezmann looks excellent, as he has for Sociedad.

You watch Serie A a lot. Is Pogba as fantastic as I have convinced myself he is in the brief times I've seen him?

Looks to me to have all the tools to be a complete midfielder at the top level. This season he ousted Marchisio from the starting XI, who has been one of Juventus' most important players over the last couple of years.

Sometimes he goes missing a bit, but I would put that down to the fact that he's playing with Pirlo and Vidal against lesser opposition so he can afford to do so. A lack of application rather than ability.

I would see a Pogba - Verratti swap deal as almost an inevitability sooner or later. It would suit both clubs.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 28, 2014, 04:35:34 PM
I like Jag's attitude here, he's a strong personality feels he's in the team on merit and not phased about speaking his mind and backing himself. Terry used to be a strong presence in the dressing room but the squad has a very different look these days and I'd imagine Jagielka is surely one of the more senior members now. Hope he has a fine tournament.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27592807 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27592807)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 28, 2014, 04:44:58 PM
Really want jagielka to play well
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: JonnyII on May 28, 2014, 08:08:21 PM
I want Argentina to win the World Cup purely so i can say Messi is the greatest of all time
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on May 28, 2014, 08:14:46 PM
I want Argentina to win the World Cup purely so i can say Messi is the greatest of all time

And I want someone else to win it so he isn't. Don't get me wrong he is great and probably one of the best ever but there is something about him that i detest. Not sure what it is. I just do not like him.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 28, 2014, 08:28:43 PM
http://www.redcafe.net/threads/smalling-vs-jagielka-at-cb.391546/ (http://www.redcafe.net/threads/smalling-vs-jagielka-at-cb.391546/)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on May 28, 2014, 10:51:09 PM
Smalling must be shocking at distribution.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Redartin on May 29, 2014, 05:02:03 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/may/28/stephen-hawking-formulae-england-world-cup-success (http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/may/28/stephen-hawking-formulae-england-world-cup-success)

Stephen Hawkins must have attended the same school as Vincent Tan.

And here is a bald penalty taker England can take with them.

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/early-doors/dare-worse-penalty-162121548.html?vp=1 (https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/early-doors/dare-worse-penalty-162121548.html?vp=1)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: cantoffee on May 29, 2014, 09:17:31 AM
http://www.redcafe.net/threads/smalling-vs-jagielka-at-cb.391546/ (http://www.redcafe.net/threads/smalling-vs-jagielka-at-cb.391546/)

lol at them morons

they think he's going to incredible or already is! long may they rot in mid table!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on May 29, 2014, 10:30:03 PM
just thinking back to the last one.

your most endearing memory? this gets my vote (i hate gerard pique...)

Shakira - Waka Waka (This Time for Africa) (The Official 2010 FIFA World Cup™ Song) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRpeEdMmmQ0#ws)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 30, 2014, 04:21:52 AM
A little clip of the team playing Rondos in training. Rooney getting stuck in, Stones looking composed and Rooney and Barkley having a bit of a running battle:

http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/well-in-wayne-rooney-slide-tackles-john-stones-in-game-of-rondos-at-england-training-video/ (http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/well-in-wayne-rooney-slide-tackles-john-stones-in-game-of-rondos-at-england-training-video/)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 30, 2014, 04:26:55 AM
Rooney must be worried and why wouldn't he be
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 30, 2014, 05:19:37 AM
Apparently Shaw was going to start tomorrow, but he has a cold.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Simon Paul on May 30, 2014, 04:36:30 PM
oh look, featured in the New and Noteworthy section on iTunes

(http://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t31.0-8/10428132_664767730260664_4045300510314897095_o.png)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bob Sacamano on May 30, 2014, 05:00:50 PM

Apparently Shaw was going to start tomorrow, but he has a cold.

On a train reading the Metro, who are convinced that Shaw is England's best left back.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on May 30, 2014, 06:22:14 PM
Don't miss your chance to see England win the World Cup...


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/26684674 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/26684674)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 31, 2014, 12:33:53 AM
Anyone watching the game tonight?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 31, 2014, 12:42:22 AM
Anyone watching the game tonight?

Yep, hoping for Barkley to get some time on the pitch.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 31, 2014, 01:13:22 AM
                Hart

Johnson Jags Cahill Bainesy
       Gerrard Henderson
Lallana  Rooney   Wellbeck
             Sturridge
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on May 31, 2014, 01:16:44 AM
Wasn't Welbeck only just moaning about playing on the left a few days ago?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 31, 2014, 01:18:22 AM
Sterling deserves a chance surely?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 31, 2014, 01:22:20 AM
Welbeck is the only one I wouldn't start on that opening game v Italy.  Hodgson loves him
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 31, 2014, 01:24:31 AM
Sterling deserves a chance surely?

He'll come on. Looks like Roy wants to get his first 11 used to each other before the World Cup. I actually think Wellbeck out wide is a bold move. That front 4 looks, on paper, really exciting
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Trowel on May 31, 2014, 01:32:26 AM
Hope Stones gets his debut off the bench. Baines, Jags, Stones and Barkley all on the pitch together would be quite a sight.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Amata on May 31, 2014, 01:36:53 AM
Think Sterling should be starting over Welbeck
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: School of Science on May 31, 2014, 01:55:13 AM
Bit miffed Henderson is starting ahead of Barkley I rate Barkley far higher.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on May 31, 2014, 02:03:32 AM
Bit miffed Henderson is starting ahead of Barkley I rate Barkley far higher.

They do different jobs. Somebody needs to e there to cover gerrard and him mistakes and lack of pace and defensive ability and and and
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 31, 2014, 02:16:34 AM
Henderson is essential for me due to the ground he covers.  Barkley I would have as the sub coming on for Rooney, behind the main striker.

Get the feeling Rooney is gonna be useless in the world cup
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on May 31, 2014, 02:19:27 AM
Hart having to get involved a bit here
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 31, 2014, 02:21:02 AM
Henderson is essential for me due to the ground he covers.  Barkley I would have as the sub coming on for Rooney, behind the main striker.

Get the feeling Rooney is gonna be useless in the world cup

He's very much like McCarthy, just wish he was better on the ball.

Gerrard needs to seriously fuck off with his biffy Hollywood passes
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Thornton_19 on May 31, 2014, 02:23:23 AM
England play the dullest football ever.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 31, 2014, 02:24:26 AM
Wellbeck on the left just doesn't work for me, and never has done.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Thornton_19 on May 31, 2014, 02:26:31 AM
Wellbeck on the left just doesn't work for me, and never has done.

He doesn't create any space for the LB or Create enough at all does he.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 31, 2014, 02:27:42 AM
Wellbeck on the left just doesn't work for me, and never has done.

Runs into brick walls a lot doesn't he. Get lallana out there, he's Pienaar mk 2
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 31, 2014, 02:28:27 AM
Can't help but think Englands World Cup chances would be greatly improved if ITV sacked Clive Tyldsley and Andy Townsend
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 31, 2014, 02:28:53 AM
Runs into brick walls a lot doesn't he. Get lallana out there, he's Pienaar mk 2

Totally agree with both of you. Lallana would be perfect in that space. Wellbeck's not passed to Baines making good runs about 3 or 4 times already.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Thornton_19 on May 31, 2014, 02:29:54 AM
Lallana and Sterling should be our wingers. Lets play our game rather than worrying about stopping other teams. Rather go out with a bang than with the fucking wimper we have the past 4 tournaments.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on May 31, 2014, 02:30:41 AM
Wellbeck on the left just doesn't work for me, and never has done.

Wellbeck on the pitch doesn't really work for me.

Not when you have the likes of Sterling available.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 31, 2014, 02:31:44 AM
Wellbeck on the pitch doesn't really work for me.

Not when you have the likes of Sterling available.

Get Oxlaide Chambo on down the right  :whistle:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: cantoffee on May 31, 2014, 02:33:50 AM
Great finish
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on May 31, 2014, 02:34:31 AM
don't like the guy, but that was a well taken goal.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 31, 2014, 02:34:58 AM
Gutted if Lallana goes to the RS. Class act.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on May 31, 2014, 02:36:20 AM
Get Oxlaide Chambo on down the right  :whistle:

I wasn't going to embarass young john ram by bumping his lallana plays on the left quote but seeing as you've done it for me......

Wonderful strike by Sturridge. I hate myself for repeating what Andy Townsend has just said but having players like him (and lallana, Barkley, lambert and Rooney) in the squad with the ability and confidence to try things like that is invaluable in knockout tournament football.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on May 31, 2014, 02:37:24 AM
Nice goal that. Very nice.
Agree with the above though, Welbeck is shonky, particularly out wide
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 31, 2014, 02:38:46 AM
Defo going to struggle to support England, proper wanted that to sail over. bitter bitter bitter :D
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on May 31, 2014, 02:39:16 AM
Shnidey fuckers these Peruvians as well   
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 31, 2014, 02:39:30 AM
Gerrard is fucking shite.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on May 31, 2014, 02:42:37 AM

Gerrard is fucking shite.
At least we don't have to watch Lampard next to him as well. Like watching paint dry them two together. A particularly boring shade of paint at that.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 31, 2014, 02:42:41 AM
Better deliver from Baines there. Laugh if Jags starts making a name for himself at set pieces this summer, hardly seen him on the end of anything all year.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 31, 2014, 02:46:45 AM
Jags would be getting slaughtered for that piece of shit combined defending from Cahill and Johnson, but no mention from the expert commentators, just Hart making a good save.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 31, 2014, 02:49:06 AM
I wasn't going to embarass young john ram by bumping his lallana plays on the left quote but seeing as you've done it for me......

Wonderful strike by Sturridge. I hate myself for repeating what Andy Townsend has just said but having players like him (and lallana, Barkley, lambert and Rooney) in the squad with the ability and confidence to try things like that is invaluable in knockout tournament football.

Don't you mean 'in and around' the squad?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 31, 2014, 02:51:23 AM
Gerrard needs to fuck off with the Hollywood balls, not one has come off yet.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: School of Science on May 31, 2014, 02:55:11 AM
Gerrard is fucking shite.

And he's 34  :D
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on May 31, 2014, 02:56:03 AM
Sky are such fucking shithouses they really are.

If they had the live coverage of the game, Ed Chamberlain would be circle jerking with his 2 studio guests about a game that was " a little slow to get going but then burst into life with a stunning strike and England will now look to kick on from here"

As it is they only have John Salako giving his verdict on the game who has clearly been instructed to summarise it as closely as he can to compare it to finding a pair of your mothers knickers with skiddy's in them!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on May 31, 2014, 02:57:13 AM
Don't you mean 'in and around' the squad?

Are they in the squad?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 31, 2014, 02:57:48 AM
Sky are such fucking shithouses they really are.

If they had the live coverage of the game, Ed Chamberlain would be circle jerking with his 2 studio guests about a game that was " a little slow to get going but then burst into life with a stunning strike and England will now look to kick on from here"

As it is they only have John Salako giving his verdict on the game who has clearly been instructed to summarise it as closely as he can to compare it to finding a pair of your mothers knickers with skiddy's in them!!

Agreed. I actually enjoy it when there's a major tournament on terrestrial TV, and Sky are completely impotent for the whole summer, pretending that transfer news is more important or other similar bullshit.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 31, 2014, 03:03:18 AM
Wonder if Stones will get 5 minutes at the end.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on May 31, 2014, 03:09:40 AM

Wonder if Stones will get 5 minutes at the end.
Would be nice
Although young, his style of play would (and will eventually) really suit international football.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Thornton_19 on May 31, 2014, 03:14:15 AM
Dunno if its been posted but here is the Venga Boys World Cup song, video is very NSFW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMQLDunHnkU&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DPMQLDunHnkU&has_verified=1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMQLDunHnkU&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DPMQLDunHnkU&has_verified=1)

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on May 31, 2014, 03:14:32 AM
Gerrard needs to fuck off with the Hollywood balls, not one has come off yet.

He's single handedly responsible for more turn-overs than every UK branch of Greggs put together. (Sorry about the American lingo. Joke doesn't work without it).


Has anyone mentioned that Glen Johnson is shite? Like monumentally shite? It's amazing that he's been playing at the level he has for the time he has.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 31, 2014, 03:14:58 AM
Would be nice
Although young, his style of play would (and will eventually) really suit international football.

I'd like to see Gerrard trying to appear useful by dropping deep to take the ball off him and Stones wave him away and waltz past him, 20 yards into the opponents half, thereby making Gerrard's one contribution to this game redundant.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on May 31, 2014, 03:16:52 AM
Pretty much how I see it
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on May 31, 2014, 03:16:54 AM
Agreed. I actually enjoy it when there's a major tournament on terrestrial TV, and Sky are completely impotent for the whole summer, pretending that transfer news is more important or other similar bullshit.

It's fantastic ain't it.

Take tonight for instance.

Whenever they come back from an ad break they refuse to mention the fact England are playing.

Froch/Groves, the super league, Rory McElroy and tiddlywinks county championship all given precedence over the England national team.

North Korean TV doesn't suffer from such sensorship!!!

Don't be surprised if sky report England actually got hammered 7-1 tonight and it's a futile exercise watching any World Cup football this summer. Not when sky have the Amsterdam tournament to look forward to!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on May 31, 2014, 03:17:47 AM
Lallana has been brilliant.

It's amazing just how poor Gerrards distribution is.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 31, 2014, 03:18:52 AM

Has anyone mentioned that Glen Johnson is shite? Like monumentally shite? It's amazing that he's been playing at the level he has for the time he has.

I mentioned it in my heads loads
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 31, 2014, 03:19:22 AM
Lallana has been brilliant.

It's amazing just how poor Gerrards distribution is.

He has, carried the ball in the opposition half, the only or to do so. Like Rooney used to 10 years ago.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 31, 2014, 03:20:47 AM
Lallana has been brilliant.

It's amazing just how poor Gerrards distribution is.

His close control and his movement are exceptional. Actually looks like a continental player he's that good technically. A bit like a slightly lesser David Silva.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on May 31, 2014, 03:25:00 AM
Not wanting to agree with Scholes here.
But Rooney does look past it.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ell Capitan on May 31, 2014, 03:27:22 AM
Not watching the game, BBC says a goal from a Baines corner? That kind of fucks me off. 

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on May 31, 2014, 03:27:25 AM
peru are poor. puts the england performance into a bit more perspective.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on May 31, 2014, 03:28:23 AM
nice goal for jags :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on May 31, 2014, 03:29:27 AM
Assists and goals a plenty for England's defense
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 31, 2014, 03:30:44 AM
Not watching the game, BBC says a goal from a Baines corner? That kind of fucks me off. 



Wait until you see who scored the third :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on May 31, 2014, 03:32:19 AM
Hopefully Italy and Uruguay will just take this result at face value, not watch the game back and tell themselves England are a decent side.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 31, 2014, 03:33:43 AM
Go ed Stonesy lad!!!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 31, 2014, 03:35:21 AM
Woo! Made up, he's earned it. First of a hundred caps :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on May 31, 2014, 03:37:09 AM
Woo! Made up, he's earned it. First of a hundred caps :)

stealth will be happy :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on May 31, 2014, 03:42:06 AM
what's the avge time difference in brazil? c -4hrs?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Thornton_19 on May 31, 2014, 03:43:12 AM
what's the avge time difference in brazil? c -4hrs?

Between 5 and 7 aint it, big ole country
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on May 31, 2014, 03:44:52 AM
Between 5 and 7 aint it, big ole country

it is a big unit. wondered how much red-eye time it will involve, on average. thanks
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 31, 2014, 03:47:16 AM
how the fuck is lallana not MOTM?!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on May 31, 2014, 03:48:23 AM
it is a big unit. wondered how much red-eye time it will involve, on average. thanks
[/quot

Most of the games kick off around 5pm till 11pm.

Think there's one game that kicks off at something daft like 2am. Which is the game on the Sunday morning after England play Italy.

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 31, 2014, 03:49:09 AM
Ross body language is all adrenalin and nerves for England at the moment, think it will take him time to settle in, he'll get there like.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on May 31, 2014, 03:50:16 AM
You can just see that Barkley and Sterling have that skill that stands them apart - even now at their age
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on May 31, 2014, 03:50:26 AM
it is a big unit. wondered how much red-eye time it will involve, on average. thanks
[/quot

Most of the games kick off around 5pm till 11pm.

Think there's one game that kicks off at something daft like 2am. Which is the game on the Sunday morning after England play Italy.



is that uk or local time? i am a lazy fucker :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on May 31, 2014, 03:53:59 AM
Uk time pal.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 31, 2014, 03:55:28 AM
stealth will be happy :)

Haha was gonna say at 31 and uncapped Im never gonna make it to the Century of England Caps!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 31, 2014, 03:55:39 AM
There you go blob:

http://www.live-footballontv.com/live-world-cup-football-on-tv.html (http://www.live-footballontv.com/live-world-cup-football-on-tv.html)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on May 31, 2014, 03:56:14 AM
There you go blob:

http://www.live-footballontv.com/live-world-cup-football-on-tv.html (http://www.live-footballontv.com/live-world-cup-football-on-tv.html)

good man. thanks.

(all watchable then. makes a nice change.)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 31, 2014, 03:57:07 AM
You can just see that Barkley and Sterling have that skill that stands them apart - even now at their age

What I'm afraid will happen will be 65 minutes of the old guard straight line directionless containing play in the groups and then hope to win it with Barkley and Stirling off the bench. I think that strarting line up needed something more tonight, I'd play Wiltshire alongside Gerrard (as Gerrard will start). Then probably Lallana, Rooney and Stirling instead of Wellbeck behind Sturridge.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on May 31, 2014, 03:58:42 AM

What I'm afraid will happen will be 65 minutes of the old guard straight line directionless containing play in the groups and then live in it up with Barkley and Stirling to try and win it. I think that straying line up needed something more tonight, I'd play Wiltshire alongside Gerrard (as Gerrard will start). Then probably Lallana, Rooney and Stirling instead of Wellbeck behind Sturridge.
I'd agree.
And if Rooney doesn't sharpen up - Barkley for him
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on May 31, 2014, 04:04:51 AM
I'd agree.
And if Rooney doesn't sharpen up - Barkley for him


Bit lame maybe but I feel stupidly overly protective every time he steps on an England pitch. Desperately want to see him do well, Rooney needs to step up and be the player he can be, hopefully he'll get his fitness back and the form will follow.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on May 31, 2014, 04:27:32 AM
I thought Henderson was class, especially once Gerrard came off. Him and Wilshere looked great.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 31, 2014, 04:33:29 AM
Actually think Gerrard holds the team back a bit.  Hopefully this is his last tournament
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on May 31, 2014, 05:04:45 AM
Since 1998 I have been within 2 hours time zone difference of every finals. France, Japan, Germany and South Africa.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 31, 2014, 05:10:51 AM
thats crazy Blarg, cool life!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on May 31, 2014, 01:06:43 PM
thats crazy Blarg, cool life!

You can be a nomad too
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on May 31, 2014, 05:15:08 PM
Feel like I'm constantly wanking the Guardian off on here, but this is a really cool thing they've done re: the World Cup. They're working with journalists and media outlets from around the world to provide local analysis of the players and teams, rather than a British-centric or Western-centric approach:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/series/world-cup-2014-guardian-experts-network (http://www.theguardian.com/football/series/world-cup-2014-guardian-experts-network)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 01, 2014, 02:01:25 AM
Watching Ireland vs Italy. After 10 minutes Montolivo has gone off injured. With their squad due to be trimmed on Monday his place might be in doubt. Would be a pretty big miss for Italy.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 01, 2014, 03:13:42 AM
This is what happens when you tackle segundo Castillo

http://vine.co/v/Mpzjz0LQdOq (http://vine.co/v/Mpzjz0LQdOq)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Redartin on June 01, 2014, 03:45:34 AM
Ireland v Italy. 0-0
Not too impressed with Italy, loads of possession but if Ireland could finish off a move they would have won easily. Italian keeper was good.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on June 01, 2014, 05:04:38 AM
This is what happens when you tackle segundo Castillo

http://vine.co/v/Mpzjz0LQdOq (http://vine.co/v/Mpzjz0LQdOq)


That looks ouch.
Castillo is all legs and nothing else
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on June 01, 2014, 05:10:21 AM
Italy 0-0 Ireland
Uruguay 1-0 Northern Ireland


We got this.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 01, 2014, 05:15:06 AM
We win 3-0 and apprantley we have no chance of getting out the group.

People really need to take these WARM UP matches into context.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 01, 2014, 05:17:26 AM
Yep, most of the big nations who've played haven't been particularly impressive. Players are saving themselves a bit, not going into tackles, coaches are working on tactics and combinations and it's part of a gradual fitness build up.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 01, 2014, 06:01:32 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/brazils-sex-trade-how-the-countrys-one-million-prostitutes-are-preparing-for-the-world-cup-9457494.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/brazils-sex-trade-how-the-countrys-one-million-prostitutes-are-preparing-for-the-world-cup-9457494.html)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 02, 2014, 03:44:54 AM
Italy have announced their 23. Montolivo out with a broken leg and Giuseppe Rossi surprisingly left out while Insigne stays in. Wouldn't have expected that.

Goalkeepers: Gianluigi Buffon , Salvatore Sirigu, Mattia Perin

Defenders: Andrea Barzagli, Leonardo Bonucci, Giorigo Chiellini, Gabriel Paletta, Ignazio Abate, Mattia De Sciglio, Matteo Darmian

Midfielders: Andrea Pirlo, Claudio Marchisio, Thiago Motta, Marco Verratti, Daniele De Rossi, Antonio Candreva, Marco Parolo, Alberto Aquilani

Forwards: Mario Balotelli, Antonio Cassano, Alessio Cerci, Ciro immobile, Lorenzo Insigne
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 02, 2014, 04:34:03 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/brazils-sex-trade-how-the-countrys-one-million-prostitutes-are-preparing-for-the-world-cup-9457494.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/brazils-sex-trade-how-the-countrys-one-million-prostitutes-are-preparing-for-the-world-cup-9457494.html)

That will solve this then:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27476236 (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27476236)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 03, 2014, 02:41:06 AM
Germany's 23 announced. The only talking points are 1 striker in Klose after Volland was dropped, and no (natural) left backs are Schmelzer was dropped. I guess Erik Durm will be the starting left back then.

Goalkeepers: Neuer (Bayern Munich), Weidenfeller (Borussia Dortmund), Zieler (Hanover).

Defenders: Boateng (Bayern Munich), Durm (Borussia Dortmund), Grosskreutz (Borussia Dortmund), Höwedes (FC Schalke), Hummels (Borussia Dortmund), Lahm (Bayern Munich), Mertesacker (Arsenal).

Midfielders: Draxler (Schalke), Ginter (Freiburg), Götze (Bayern Munich), Kramer (Borussia Mönchengladbach), Khedira (Real Madrid), Kroos (Bayern Munich), Müller (Bayern Munich), Özil (Arsenal), Podolski (Arsenal), Reus (Borussia Dortmund), Schürrle (Chelsea), Schweinsteiger (Bayern Munich).

Forward: Klose (Lazio).
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on June 03, 2014, 03:59:57 AM
Gotze and Muller could be seen as forwards really though.


Lacina Traore and Seydou Doumbia have been omitted from the Ivory Coast squad.

Goalkeepers: Boubacar Barry (Lokeren), Sylvain Gbohouo (Sewe Sport), Sayouba Sande (Stabaek).

Defenders: Kolo Toure (Liverpool), Sol Bamba (Trabzonspor), Didier Zokora (Trabzonspor), Serge Aurier (Toulouse), Arthur Boka (Stuttgart), Ousmane Viera Diarrassouba (Caykur Rizespor), Constant Djakpa (Frankfurt), Jean-Daniel Akpa-Akpro (Toulouse).

Midfielders: Yaya Toure (Manchester City), Cheik Tiote (Newcastle), Serey Die (Basel), Max Gradel (Saint Etienne), Diomande Ismael (Saint Etienne), Didier Ya Konan (Hannover), Mathis Bolly (Dusseldorf).

Forwards: Gervinho (Roma), Didier Drogba (Galatasaray), Salomon Kalou (Lille), Wilfried Bony (Swansea), Giovanni Sio (Basel).
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on June 03, 2014, 09:31:26 AM
Ivory Coast can do some damage. I reckon they will make the semi finals
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on June 03, 2014, 07:43:26 PM
Ivory Coast are my tip as well but not many stand outs in their defence or goalkeepers.




Guiseppe Rossi has been left out of the Italian squad.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 03, 2014, 07:44:34 PM

Guiseppe Rossi has been left out of the Italian squad.

And he's fuming.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on June 03, 2014, 07:50:46 PM
And he's fuming.

So I've read :snigger:

It was a choice of him or Cerci in the end weren't it?

Tough choice, think I'd have chose Rossi despite his constant injury concerns.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 03, 2014, 07:53:54 PM
So I've read :snigger:

It was a choice of him or Cerci in the end weren't it?

Tough choice, think I'd have chose Rossi despite his constant injury concerns.

Yeah, I'd have gone with Rossi as well.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 03, 2014, 10:29:08 PM
Cerci would have always made the squad due to his outstanding season and he offers something different. Looked to me as a choice of 2 out of Rossi, Cassano and Insigne. I would have predicted Insigne to miss out.

I think it's purely a fitness thing.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Goaljira on June 04, 2014, 03:10:40 AM
Not sure what you can garner from a match against Panama, but Brazil are looking decent here.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: bacon sarnie on June 04, 2014, 07:03:42 PM
England/Argentina 86 on BBC website is a laugh. Englands Hodge & Stevens & Hoddle are having a shocker and watching Maradona you can see where Suarez et al copied the antics. Exciting player the little man but what a fucking drama queen.

0-0 approaching halftime.........
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: bacon sarnie on June 04, 2014, 08:24:31 PM
Barry Davies' commentary of that wonder goal was good - but this is something else.
I've just listened to Uruguayan Victor Hugo Morales, who has taken it to another level:
"Maradona has the ball, two mark him, he touches the ball. The genius of world football dashes to the right and leaves the third and is going to pass to Burruchaga. It's still Maradona! Genius! Genius! Genius! Ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta. Gooooooooooal!
"Gooooooooooal! I want to cry! Dear God! Long live football! Gooooooooooal! Diegoal! Maradona!
"It's enough to make you cry, forgive me. Maradona, in an unforgettable run, in the play of all time. Cosmic kite! What planet are you from? Leaving in your wake so many Englishmen, so that the whole country is a clenched fist shouting for Argentina?
"Argentina 2, England 0. Diegoal, Diegoal, Diego Armando Maradona. Thank you, God, for football, for Maradona, for these tears, for this, Argentina 2, England 0." BBC

Brilliant. Good luck to this years England model.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 05, 2014, 01:02:40 AM
Will we be getting a "Today's World Cup Matches" thread?

I'm missing "Today's football" thread already and it's only been a few days!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 05, 2014, 01:30:08 AM
Will we be getting a "Today's World Cup Matches" thread?

I'm missing "Today's football" thread already and it's only been a few days!

That's what this thread's for.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 05, 2014, 01:34:54 AM
That's what this thread's for.

Right thought it was just general World Cup gossip
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on June 05, 2014, 02:00:05 AM
The boys booming out their anthem there. ;)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 05, 2014, 02:00:46 AM
Chamberlain playing on the right?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on June 05, 2014, 02:06:28 AM
Not many football fans reside in Miami clearly.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on June 05, 2014, 02:06:46 AM
Chamberlain playing on the right?

yes
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 05, 2014, 02:06:49 AM
Chamberlain playing on the right?

Haha :)

England look pretty decent here. I'm liking lambert's hold up play with the runners coming from midfield
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Danny on June 05, 2014, 02:08:53 AM
GET IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 05, 2014, 02:09:08 AM
What a goal!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 05, 2014, 02:09:17 AM
good goal   :snigger:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on June 05, 2014, 02:09:22 AM
Shoddy defending that
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 05, 2014, 02:09:56 AM
Haha :)

England look pretty decent here. I'm liking lambert's hold up play with the runners coming from midfield

Tit
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 05, 2014, 02:10:22 AM
If England scored a goal like that you'd be happy, great control and cross
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on June 05, 2014, 02:11:53 AM
Lampards shooting and passing is miles out
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 05, 2014, 02:12:35 AM
Rooney is way off the boil.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bob Sacamano on June 05, 2014, 02:13:41 AM
streams? can't get to a tv
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 05, 2014, 02:14:55 AM
streams? can't get to a tv

Be on itv player, man
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bob Sacamano on June 05, 2014, 02:16:02 AM
Be on itv player, man

onto. Just realised as I posted
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 05, 2014, 02:16:36 AM
Lovely back heel from Barkley before
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 05, 2014, 02:17:44 AM
Lovely back heel from Barkley before

He's on another level isn't he.

I remember Rooney used to be like that.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on June 05, 2014, 02:22:04 AM
Ross value +1m after that run.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 05, 2014, 02:22:39 AM
Wow
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on June 05, 2014, 02:27:08 AM
Barkley Foster and Ox the only decent performances at the moment really.
Wilshire is fucking dire.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 05, 2014, 02:28:18 AM
Think lampards having a good game.

Ox has to start the World Cup for me
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 05, 2014, 02:28:55 AM
Great ball from the Ox.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 05, 2014, 02:34:07 AM
Baines looks awful here, he's usually much more assured at left back.....oh its not him!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Thornton_19 on June 05, 2014, 02:34:11 AM
Some of he English defenders who had good seasons this year must look at Smalling and Phil Jones going to Brazil and must wonder what anybody sees in them. Fucking awful the both of them. Can't believe Jags gets so much stick at international level when these two crabs are in the squad.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on June 05, 2014, 02:39:16 AM
Think Jags should get a bit more appreciation after this half. Ox is some player isn't he.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 05, 2014, 02:39:26 AM
I absolutely, monumentally despise jack fucking wilshere
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 05, 2014, 02:39:30 AM
Baines looks awful here, he's usually much more assured at left back.....oh its not him!

Lol 30m lol
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tony Clifton on June 05, 2014, 02:39:32 AM
Wilshere.  :titanic:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 05, 2014, 02:43:06 AM
Milner is a proper donkey tonight.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 05, 2014, 02:46:19 AM
On home soil you've really got to fancy this Brazilian teams chances, there making some of the highest paid football professionals in the world look average here.

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 05, 2014, 02:46:34 AM
Wilshere loves getting fouled and moaning about it!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 05, 2014, 02:46:51 AM
Ox, Barkley, lampard, the stand outs for me.

Everyone in that back 4 is having a nightmare.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on June 05, 2014, 02:49:24 AM
Smalling is definitely better than Jagielka.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 05, 2014, 02:49:53 AM
I absolutely, monumentally despise jack fucking wilshere

He's fucking dogshit.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on June 05, 2014, 02:50:18 AM
Christ that Vaxhaull advert is cheesy as fuck.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 05, 2014, 02:53:22 AM
Christ that Vaxhaul advert is cheesy as fuck.

Ur post made me think of this gem from Modern Toss today:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tony Clifton on June 05, 2014, 03:03:42 AM
They had to re-freeze Lambert at half time.  He'll be melted before he kicks a ball for Liverpool.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 05, 2014, 03:06:35 AM
Is David Gower the manager of Ecuador?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tony Clifton on June 05, 2014, 03:08:09 AM
Is David Gower the manager of Ecuador?

His brother, Derek.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on June 05, 2014, 03:08:55 AM
Carlos Alberto...?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 05, 2014, 03:09:28 AM
Go on Ross lad.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 05, 2014, 03:09:31 AM
Barkley done himself no harm there.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on June 05, 2014, 03:09:44 AM
Awesome Barkley.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 05, 2014, 03:09:48 AM
great strike Rickie, even better assist by Ross
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 05, 2014, 03:09:50 AM
Again, wow.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tony Clifton on June 05, 2014, 03:09:53 AM
Nice, nice.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on June 05, 2014, 03:10:02 AM
Townsend is such a fucking prick
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 05, 2014, 03:10:09 AM
Have to say a great hit by Lambert too.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 05, 2014, 03:10:24 AM
top-notch barkley   :hail:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 05, 2014, 03:12:17 AM
Wilshire has lost the ball every time he's received it this half.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 05, 2014, 03:12:19 AM
Townsend is such a fucking prick

Still found a way to say he 'left the pass short' after Ross had taken 4-5 defenders completely out of the game, and chosen the right option.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 05, 2014, 03:12:42 AM
Great from Ox there.  Him, Barkley and Sterling are exciting when they run at players
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on June 05, 2014, 03:12:56 AM

Still found a way to say he 'left the pass short' after Ross had taken 4-5 defenders completely out of the game, and chosen the right option.
Exactly this
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 05, 2014, 03:13:04 AM
Ox and Rooney have to start against Italy. Said it weeks ago and sayin it again.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on June 05, 2014, 03:14:57 AM
Ox and Rooney have to start against Italy. Said it weeks ago and sayin it again.

Rooney is a given.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 05, 2014, 03:16:10 AM
Oxlade-Chamberlain looking very good. Rooney anonymous.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 05, 2014, 03:17:01 AM
The potential of Barkley and Ox for England in the future is fantastic, add in family guy and the future should be bright
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 05, 2014, 03:17:03 AM
'Weve got someone down in the centre circle'. Have a wild guess who that was about
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 05, 2014, 03:19:15 AM
Rooney is a given.
I actually meant Barkley. Lol

Rooney has been shite and his selection would be unjustified.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 05, 2014, 03:20:35 AM
That's a shame. Oxlade-Chamberlain was looking good, hopefully a precaution.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 05, 2014, 03:20:47 AM
Oh good, someone else with a massively punchable face comes on.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 05, 2014, 03:22:02 AM
Oh good, someone else with a massively punchable face comes on.

Flanagan or Sterling. Or both lol
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 05, 2014, 03:22:52 AM
Flanagan or Sterling. Or both lol

Was going for Flanagan. Can't stand that little prick. Had a good season to be fair to him.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 05, 2014, 03:24:53 AM
Was going for Flanagan. Can't stand that little prick. Had a good season to be fair to him.

He looks like he used to go to school on the special bus.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: ally2 on June 05, 2014, 03:25:11 AM
Lol phil jones. He really has no control of his body at all
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: ally2 on June 05, 2014, 03:27:17 AM
Shit!!! Did you see that?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 05, 2014, 03:27:22 AM
Wow. Belting finish.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 05, 2014, 03:28:06 AM
Foot like a traction engine.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on June 05, 2014, 03:28:25 AM
You could put Wilshire and Milner together and you'd still have a shit player on this performance.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on June 05, 2014, 03:29:42 AM
Stones coming on to show how to defend.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 05, 2014, 03:30:20 AM
Valencia looks way better for Equador than he has done for Man United of late.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cassius on June 05, 2014, 03:30:34 AM
You could put Wilshire and Milner together and you'd still have a shit player on this performance.

A Smalling and Jones together wouldn't even make a Wes Brown based on this performance.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on June 05, 2014, 03:31:13 AM
Stop playing him at full back Roy.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 05, 2014, 03:31:15 AM
Milner is having a mare.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: ally2 on June 05, 2014, 03:32:50 AM
Lampard's looking like an old man out there.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 05, 2014, 03:33:51 AM
Lampard's looking like an old man out there.

I think he's played really well
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: stirlingblue on June 05, 2014, 03:34:21 AM
Fucking hell, Stones left back!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on June 05, 2014, 03:35:38 AM
Shithouse tackle
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 05, 2014, 03:35:46 AM
Sterling's passing has been poor.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 05, 2014, 03:36:31 AM
Ha ha.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 05, 2014, 03:36:39 AM
Think that's really harsh in sterling there
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on June 05, 2014, 03:36:56 AM
That escalated rather quickly
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 05, 2014, 03:37:25 AM
Bad tackle then Valencia raises his hands, there's nothing wrong with two reds.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Simon Paul on June 05, 2014, 03:37:30 AM

Shithouse tackle

Valencia had gone in hard on him less than a minute before. Sterling reacted with that tackle. Valencia reacted by shoving him

Not that either itv commentator saw that
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tony Clifton on June 05, 2014, 03:37:31 AM
Harsh, but was a daft needless tackle.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on June 05, 2014, 03:37:50 AM
His studs were on Valencia's ankle.

No need for that in a friendly just before WC.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cassius on June 05, 2014, 03:37:52 AM
No need for him to fly in like that and no need for Valencia to go all Paolo Di Canio on him either.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 05, 2014, 03:38:15 AM
Valencia more deserving of the red, silly reaction. I think in fairness to Sterling it looked like his studs got caught on the turf.

Needless by the ref though, is a friendly.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 05, 2014, 03:38:32 AM
milner defines our lack of choice in that position; very little.

woy prediction:

'we were trying a few people out, and i'm generally pleased with our performance; particularly some of the youngsters, who will have gained vital experience playing at this level, and in these conditions."

(you could roll that out before every world cup...yawn)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: ally2 on June 05, 2014, 03:39:01 AM

I think he's played really well

Hmmm. Nah. I can't stand him. He's gutless. Just potters around trying to look nonchalant playing pointless passes.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cassius on June 05, 2014, 03:40:11 AM
Nice of Clive to point out that the red cards won't affect the player's participation at the world cup. I didn't even know Ecuador had qualified.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Simon Paul on June 05, 2014, 03:40:37 AM

Nice of Clive to point out that the red cards won't affect the player's participation at the world cup. I didn't even know Ecuador had qualified.

I know only too bloody well. Don't I stealth?!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cassius on June 05, 2014, 03:41:59 AM
I know only too bloody well. Don't I stealth?!

Apologies for opening up and rubbing salt into that wound.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tony Clifton on June 05, 2014, 03:43:23 AM
Jesus fucking Christ, just shoot Wilshere, Woy.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on June 05, 2014, 03:43:34 AM
Arsenal's players are made of fucking glass.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Simon Paul on June 05, 2014, 03:44:09 AM
"Certainly looked like he took a knock didn't it Clive?"

No Andy, it really didnt
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tony Clifton on June 05, 2014, 03:44:35 AM
Arsenal's players are made of fucking glass.

He's pulled a sock, the Klingon lookalike ponce.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 05, 2014, 03:45:01 AM
I know only too bloody well. Don't I stealth?!

You probably dont believe this right now @Simon Paul (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1) but I Love you
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 05, 2014, 03:45:18 AM
I don't blame Valencia in the slightest for reacting like that. Could easily put someone out of the WC with that sort of challenge.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tony Clifton on June 05, 2014, 03:46:54 AM
I don't blame Valencia in the slightest for reacting like that. Could easily put someone out of the WC with that sort of challenge.

Yep, talented kid, but an over-zealous and arrogant little shit.  Cunt of a hair-do as well.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cassius on June 05, 2014, 03:47:01 AM
I don't blame Valencia in the slightest for reacting like that. Could easily put someone out of the WC with that sort of challenge.

Ecuador's in the World Cup?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Simon Paul on June 05, 2014, 03:47:33 AM

Ecuador's in the World Cup?

Yes they fucking are!!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 05, 2014, 03:52:30 AM
Yes they fucking are!!!

well, england couldn't beat them   :snigger:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cassius on June 05, 2014, 03:53:42 AM
Yes they fucking are!!!

Sorry, I will drop this...

Until their first game.
 
;)

*edit: forgot the winky faced man, always forget to signal that I'm joking.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 05, 2014, 04:08:24 AM
Stones should replace ox if he's injured
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: stirlingblue on June 05, 2014, 04:12:54 AM
Was sat with a united fan watching the game. Pointed out that Valencia broke his leg a few years ago in a similar challenge.

Somebody needs to have a word with Sterling about that, quality player but there is no need for that in a friendly. Especially one just before a World Cup.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: fubarruk on June 05, 2014, 04:58:07 AM
Was sat with a united fan watching the game. Pointed out that Valencia broke his leg a few years ago in a similar challenge.

Somebody needs to have a word with Sterling about that, quality player but there is no need for that in a friendly. Especially one just before a World Cup.

Tackles like that will haunt him the rest of his career. Over reaction but you can understand why.

I like to see players who don't buy into this 'it's only a friendly' mentality, 100% committed in every game is something to be commended, that was just over zealous, regardless of it was a friendly or competitive match.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: bluestevie on June 05, 2014, 05:34:30 AM
Valencia's red was deserved for the overreaction, Stirling's was harsh. He did have studs raised but they connected with the ball first and he caught Valencia on the follow through. Gerrard will have had a word with him though as they went down the tunnel
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Risky on June 05, 2014, 05:55:06 AM
The tackle from Sterling only looked like a yellow because Valencia saw it coming and managed to get his standing leg off the ground before the impact.  It was an at best daft and dangerous tackle and although Valencia can't get away with his reaction there's really no defending Sterling's tackle.  Well there is, but it's just ITV's ridiculously biased commentary.

If Johnny Foreigner had made that tackle on an England player tonight I'd wager the reaction would be somewhat different.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: KevtheRat on June 05, 2014, 05:57:13 AM
Yellow card tackle with a red card response from Valencia , but definitely a wake up call to English players what refs from other continents will put up with
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ridge on June 05, 2014, 06:28:32 AM
Wasn't a red card challenge necessarily, but if the ref realises the intent then it has to be.

You can't throw your studs through the air at a ball with a player standing behind it, regardless of touching the ball.

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: GLewis on June 05, 2014, 01:58:56 PM
Equal punishment for both seemed fair to me.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 05, 2014, 07:24:07 PM
If Ox does have ligament problems who's next in? Would Cleverly get called up? Or is there any chance Stones might get to go?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Heisenberg on June 05, 2014, 08:32:49 PM
England looking weak in CM for me. No 2 obvious starters, and really lacking a DM, as seen with wilshire standing off and panicking for their 2nd. Cant believe Barry hasnt went, id probably have given delph, barton or huddlestone a go aswell. Going to get run all over the shop by faster teams
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on June 05, 2014, 08:45:59 PM
I'd say Gerrard and Henderson were the obvious starters myself, especially after Wilshere's performance last night.



I watched El Salvador v Ivory Coast last night which the latter won 2-1. There was lots of substations but I thought they'd look better than they did. Gervinho was man of the match and scored the first goal taking it around the keeper and Drogba scored a poachers goal. Bony came on later and has little impact.

Kolo Toure give away a daft penalty.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Heisenberg on June 05, 2014, 08:54:17 PM
I'd say Gerrard and Henderson were the obvious starters myself, especially after Wilshere's performance last night.



I watched El Salvador v Ivory Coast last night which the latter won 2-1. There was lots of substations but I thought they'd look better than they did. Gervinho was man of the match and scored the first goal taking it around the keeper and Drogba scored a poachers goal. Bony came on later and has little impact.

Kolo Toure give away a daft penalty.

Gerrard was shocking in the first freindly.  He slows the game down far to much and all he cares about is his hollywood long balls. Obviously he'll start, but out of the two friendlies I think lampard out done him. Hendersons alright, good engine on him, but thats about it. Id probably have wilshire above him just because he's more positive and can pass
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: stirlingblue on June 06, 2014, 05:04:10 PM
Gerrard was shocking in the first freindly.  He slows the game down far to much and all he cares about is his hollywood long balls. Obviously he'll start, but out of the two friendlies I think lampard out done him. Hendersons alright, good engine on him, but thats about it. Id probably have wilshire above him just because he's more positive and can pass

I think Henderson has to start, assuming it will be Gerrard he's playing alongside you need someone in there who can cover the ground that Gerrard doesn't.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 06, 2014, 05:50:17 PM
Can't wait for this to start now!Considering buying a World Cup shirt, probably the Honduras home.  I've just illegally downloaded the Fatboy Slim Bem Brasil album, got the Official World Cup Game, 25 stickers away from completing the album, and after Tuesday I've got 12 days off work to soak up the tournament and including sweeps I've seemingly staked over £100 on bets for the tournament!expecting nothing back!

Love the world cup!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: GLewis on June 06, 2014, 05:57:40 PM
Can't wait for this to start now!Considering buying a World Cup shirt, probably the Honduras home.  I've just illegally downloaded the Fatboy Slim Bem Brasil album, got the Official World Cup Game, 25 stickers away from completing the album, and after Tuesday I've got 12 days off work to soak up the tournament and including sweeps I've seemingly staked over £100 on bets for the tournament!expecting nothing back!

Love the world cup!

Love a random WC shirt.

Got the, erm, Côte d'Ivoire away shirt last time.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 06, 2014, 06:03:10 PM
Love a random WC shirt.

Got the, erm, Côte d'Ivoire away shirt last time.

I got West Germany 1990, USA 1994, Spain 1998, Brazil 2002, France 2006, Argentina 2010

Thinking of funking it up this year.  Honduras, Colombia and Mexico all appealing
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 06, 2014, 06:14:55 PM
Go Honduras!


Btw is there an England world cup song this year?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 06, 2014, 06:33:05 PM
I'm in the World Cup spirit. Won a coca cola World Cup ball in work yesterday, set up a wall chart, entered my mums work prediction league and done my World Cup super six.

Tonight I'm off to my mates to watch mike bassest. It's like watching it's a wonderful life before Christmas
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 06, 2014, 06:34:27 PM
Go Honduras!


Btw is there an England world cup song this year?

Officially no,  it was thought to be the Gary Barlow one but the FA fucked him off when he turned out to be a total scumbag
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Silas on June 06, 2014, 06:50:54 PM
TK Maxx in Aintree has the retro Italia 90 shirt and Brazil. Getting myself involved in that. Love a World Cup.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on June 06, 2014, 07:14:11 PM
Sticker album, worldcup wall chart and I'm having a £1 bet on every game for first goal scorer to see if I can break even. I'm in the NSNO sweep (Ghana) and FF when it gets going, I'm also in the works sweep (Algeria) and the works FF.

This is my team below.. Not sure about Pena as he's a DM and other than defence, you only get points for goals or assists. Might swap him by adding a mexican defender and using the additional funds to replace Pena with someone more attacking. 

         Weekly Total   Season Total   Player Rank by Pos'n (Overall)
Position      Player Name   Team   Value         
Goalkeeper       H Lloris   FRA   £8.5   0    0    01 (001)
Defender       P Zabaleta   ARG   £10.5   0    0    01 (001)
Defender       V Kompany   BEL   £10.5   0    0    01 (001)
Defender       D Luiz   BRA   £10.5   0    0    01 (001)
Defender       M Hummels   GER   £10.0   0    0    01 (001)
Defender       P Lahm   GER   £11.5   0    0    01 (001)
Midfielder       Oscar   BRA   £12.5   0    0    01 (001)
Midfielder       A Lallana   ENG   £9.0   0    0    01 (001)
Striker       C Pena   MEX   £8.5   0    0    01 (001)
Striker       L Messi   ARG   £15.0   0    0    01 (001)
Striker       K Benzema   FRA   £13.5   0    0    01 (001)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 06, 2014, 07:43:10 PM
Go Honduras!


Btw is there an England world cup song this year?

Apparently it's a cover version of this by a band called The Barkley's.

Alexander O'Neal Criticize (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CySYwZNH65I#)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Goaljira on June 06, 2014, 08:12:03 PM
I'm in the World Cup spirit. Won a coca cola World Cup ball in work yesterday, set up a wall chart, entered my mums work prediction league and done my World Cup super six.

Tonight I'm off to my mates to watch mike bassest. It's like watching it's a wonderful life before Christmas

No one here's had one - I was beginning to think it was a con.  All the bottles round here seem to have moved on to non-code ones too  shakeyheadman
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 06, 2014, 09:29:46 PM
Ribery out of the WC:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/06/franck-ribery-out-world-cup-france (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/06/franck-ribery-out-world-cup-france)

Actually think it might work out alright for France. Always felt like he's flattered to deceive for them, and think Griezmann is a brilliant young player, assuming he gets the chance in his stead.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on June 06, 2014, 10:10:21 PM
Ribery out of the WC:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/06/franck-ribery-out-world-cup-france (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/06/franck-ribery-out-world-cup-france)

Actually think it might work out alright for France. Always felt like he's flattered to deceive for them, and think Griezmann is a brilliant young player, assuming he gets the chance in his stead.

They have a straight forward group and if they win it they'll most likely face Nigeria in the second round followed by Belgium or Portugal in the Quarters. Thats not a bad journey to the semi's for a back door qualifier is it.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 06, 2014, 10:10:29 PM
No one here's had one - I was beginning to think it was a con.  All the bottles round here seem to have moved on to non-code ones too  shakeyheadman

Haha. I won 3 but gave two of them to 2 pieces of filth for their kids :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 06, 2014, 10:17:16 PM
They have a straight forward group and if they win it they'll most likely face Nigeria in the second round followed by Belgium or Portugal in the Quarters. Thats not a bad journey to the semi's for a back door qualifier is it.

Yep, they couldn't have asked for better had they written the draw out themselves. I tipped them as my dark horses, and Benzema as topped scorer for those reasons. They also have some great young players to watch like Pogba, Varana and Griezmann.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on June 06, 2014, 10:18:00 PM
Haha. I won 3 but gave two of them to 2 pieces of filth for their kids :)

Balls deep.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on June 06, 2014, 10:26:19 PM
Yep, they couldn't have asked for better had they written the draw out themselves. I tipped them as my dark horses, and Benzema as topped scorer for those reasons. They also have some great young players to watch like Pogba, Varana and Griezmann.

Yep, I've got Benzema and Lloris in my team for that reason. England will surely face Spain or Brazil in the quarters so I've only picked Lallana. I'd prefer Brazil personally if England go out at that stage, playing Brazil as host nation would be the best way to go, a great spectacle for any fans making the trip too.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 06, 2014, 10:55:40 PM
Yep, I've got Benzema and Lloris in my team for that reason. England will surely face Spain or Brazil in the quarters so I've only picked Lallana. I'd prefer Brazil personally if England go out at that stage, playing Brazil as host nation would be the best way to go, a great spectacle for any fans making the trip too.

This fantasy football?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 07, 2014, 02:35:16 AM
SSN saying Marco Reus looks to have twisted his ankle in Germany's friendly against Armenia.

I really hope he doesn't miss out. Love watching him. The big players have been dropping like flies.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: GLewis on June 07, 2014, 02:39:18 AM
I got West Germany 1990, USA 1994, Spain 1998, Brazil 2002, France 2006, Argentina 2010

Thinking of funking it up this year.  Honduras, Colombia and Mexico all appealing

I got Colombia in the sweep in work - might make me get one.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on June 07, 2014, 02:48:15 AM
SSN saying Marco Reus looks to have twisted his ankle in Germany's friendly against Armenia.

I really hope he doesn't miss out. Love watching him. The big players have been dropping like flies.
Who's on their standby list?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 07, 2014, 02:51:06 AM
Be no good players left at this rate
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 07, 2014, 02:52:09 AM
Who's on their standby list?

In terms of AMs, I think it's Max Meyer, Andre Hahn and Kevin Volland.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on June 07, 2014, 03:33:25 AM
71 minutes gone: Germany 1-1 Armenia

Full Time: Germany 6-1 Armenia
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 07, 2014, 06:43:16 PM
So Reus has been ruled out entirely and for some reason Mustafi has been called up to replace him.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 07, 2014, 09:26:17 PM
The BBC are showing England v Germany Italia 90 semi now.

Gazza in his finest pomp, Lineker shitting himself and Pearce missing a penalty...whats not to like
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Thornton_19 on June 08, 2014, 03:42:33 AM
Honduras' badge is so shite.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 08, 2014, 03:50:37 AM
Started well again
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 08, 2014, 03:51:58 AM
Johnson's carried his good form into the opening few minutes.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 08, 2014, 03:53:36 AM
Glen Johnson will cost us this tournament
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 08, 2014, 03:53:43 AM
Look disjointed
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: cantoffee on June 08, 2014, 03:55:31 AM
Any good streams?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 08, 2014, 04:00:31 AM
Johnsons fucking garbage. I also honestly believe any top level professional football can do what Henderson does, another overrated Kopite.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 08, 2014, 04:02:55 AM
Any good streams?

One of these mate:

http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=262216&part=sports (http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=262216&part=sports)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 08, 2014, 04:04:00 AM
Pathetic that Gerrard took that
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Thornton_19 on June 08, 2014, 04:07:33 AM
Really hope we start somebody other than Johnson RB against Italy.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: cantoffee on June 08, 2014, 04:08:57 AM
Is the game being called off?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 08, 2014, 04:09:01 AM
Fingers crossed the lightening strikes the fucking commentary box.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tinga on June 08, 2014, 04:09:06 AM
....is it really that bad the storm?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on June 08, 2014, 04:12:29 AM
Cup of tea it is then.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Simon Paul on June 08, 2014, 04:13:31 AM
See nobody bothered to tell ray winstone that the game was off
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on June 08, 2014, 04:16:32 AM
See they take the players off due to the lightening but leave all the fans who are sat up in the stands.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 08, 2014, 04:18:32 AM
Weird how Miami is having the same weather as us
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Thornton_19 on June 08, 2014, 04:18:47 AM
Its because its in America. They are used to having 4 quarters aren't they so the stoppage is understandable.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on June 08, 2014, 04:21:46 AM
To be fair they had to take The players off - the amount of hair products even just on Joe Hart would have been a hugely dangerous electrical conductor.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 08, 2014, 04:22:40 AM
Same as the last game, Hoddle's the only one of the four who's got any idea what he's talking about.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: jongre123 on June 08, 2014, 04:25:49 AM
Lee really looks like he wants to say something.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 08, 2014, 04:40:48 AM
....is it really that bad the storm?

In an open bowl stadium with all that lightning?

Yes, it is.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 08, 2014, 04:41:29 AM
See they take the players off due to the lightening but leave all the fans who are sat up in the stands.

Fans were told to leave too.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 08, 2014, 04:49:39 AM
This delay has fucked my bet right up.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on June 08, 2014, 04:49:46 AM

Fans were told to leave too.
Thanks. Good to know.
I'd have struggled to sleep tonight
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 08, 2014, 04:50:12 AM
Can't even be assed with this now.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tony Clifton on June 08, 2014, 04:50:40 AM
Should've sent the ITV crew out there with an umbrella and an aerial - "get out there and cool off you insufferable cunts".

Roy was funny just wandering onto camera there...  He's no Bobby Robson, but I've got a bit of a softspot for the old loon.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tony Clifton on June 08, 2014, 04:53:03 AM
Note to self: watch foreign streams of all WC games.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 08, 2014, 05:01:06 AM
That's a fucking red card, you can't deliberately boot the ball into someone from half a foot out.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 08, 2014, 05:01:46 AM
Sturridge diving there. Not a fan of kicking the ball at people but diving is annoying
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 08, 2014, 05:05:00 AM
Sturridge diving there. Not a fan of kicking the ball at people but diving is annoying

Nah, mate, the defender swept his leg out from under him completely.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 08, 2014, 05:06:25 AM
I'd be surprised if Hodgson doesn't have a word with their manager at HT about some of their challenges, and to calm the fuck down in the second half.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 08, 2014, 05:07:16 AM
Nah, mate, the defender swept his leg out from under him completely.

(http://famousdude.com/images/andy-townsend-03.jpg)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 08, 2014, 05:10:31 AM
Honduras are a team of shithouses.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: B3rry on June 08, 2014, 05:11:03 AM
just hope that Hodgson will has some speach to their souls ... some talks about match should appear http://www.streams2watch.me/ (http://www.streams2watch.me/) but it was not good test for us.. I mean like boost our confidence
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 08, 2014, 05:12:47 AM
Nah, mate, the defender swept his leg out from under him completely.
aye seen it back! I'd have twatted it at him tho horrible wiggly armed dancing shite for England prick!

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on June 08, 2014, 05:12:48 AM
Lallana playing well again, looking like a very important player. Rooney on the other hand, as good as he is, looks like a passenger.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 08, 2014, 05:12:55 AM
Jags is super cool.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 08, 2014, 05:15:08 AM
Getting really anxious now...


What the fuck are Chiles, Hoddle and Wright going to talk about for 15 minutes ???
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 08, 2014, 05:15:34 AM
Has the crowd doubled since the thunderstorm? There was nowhere near that amount of people or noise before the break.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 08, 2014, 05:15:52 AM
Quote from: Samwise link=topic=44298.msg781099#msg781099


What the fuck are Chiles, Hoddle and Wright going to talk about for 15 minutes ???

Utter utter shite. As ever .
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 08, 2014, 05:17:35 AM
Utter utter shite. As ever .

Thank fuck for that I thought the change in atmosphere may have effected them
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on June 08, 2014, 05:17:37 AM

Getting really anxious now...


What the fuck are Chiles, Hoddle and Wright going to talk about for 15 minutes ???
It hot.
This is close to the starting line up for next week.
Less than ideal having the delay.
Blah
Blah blah


Yeh - see your point
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 08, 2014, 05:18:08 AM
Gaffer....Aid....Dico.....bla h blah blah
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Heisenberg on June 08, 2014, 05:19:41 AM
Wednesday was an easy watch. Back to slow static possession football today
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 08, 2014, 05:20:04 AM
It hot.
This is close to the starting line up for next week.
Less than ideal having the delay.
Blah
Blah blah


Yeh - see your point

I'd prefer they get the groundsman back in to be honest at least he had some panache!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 08, 2014, 05:21:01 AM
Thank fuck for that I thought the change in atmosphere may have effected them

Hoddle looks like he hasn't had a bath for months.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: cantoffee on June 08, 2014, 05:21:27 AM
No surprise with Honduras though, these Central American teams are awful - hard, nasty fouls and they dive all over the place.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on June 08, 2014, 05:21:32 AM

I'd prefer they get the groundsman back in to be honest at least he had some panache!
Groundsman for Townsend straight swap.



In fact anyone for Townsend.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 08, 2014, 05:21:55 AM
This has been another bollocks performance...especially from the liverpool players. Rooneys performance has been dire, wonder if Roy will point that out in his interview? Baines not in the game at all either, for some reason England seem to favour Johnson on the ball.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 08, 2014, 05:22:40 AM
Has Gerrard passed to baines yet?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 08, 2014, 05:22:54 AM
Hoddle looks like he hasn't had a bath for months.

Looks like he struggles with the high carb diet the North Americans love!

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 08, 2014, 05:24:07 AM
Has Gerrard passed to baines yet?

Yes, several times. But only when it was the worst possible choice.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 08, 2014, 05:24:30 AM
Has Gerrard passed to baines yet?

I don't think gerrards passed to anyone in a red shirt.

Top analysis there...apparently Sturridge has been sharp, cue his highlights that showed him diving, fucking up a pass to put someone through and getting the ball booted at him. England have got no chance v a decent side.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 08, 2014, 05:24:48 AM
No surprise with Honduras though, these Central American teams are awful - hard, nasty fouls and they dive all over the place.

Perfect preparation for Italy then.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Heisenberg on June 08, 2014, 05:25:09 AM
Has Gerrard passed to baines yet?

No. he'll only do a pass 30 yards plus. He wants all the attention the long ball merchant egotistical penis
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 08, 2014, 05:25:43 AM
Didn't Gerrard play Baines in for that cross near the byline, where it was blocked and then the player followed through on him?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 08, 2014, 05:26:11 AM
I've got to say this is my first NSNO World Cup and I'm loving the build up so far!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 08, 2014, 05:26:26 AM
Gerrard actually played a good reverse ball to Baines earlier on. 
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 08, 2014, 05:27:20 AM
Yes, several times. But only when it was the worst possible choice.
that was a Joe Hart throw... Hideous decision
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on June 08, 2014, 05:28:36 AM

Hoddle looks like he hasn't had a bath for months.
Looks like he's going for a part in the next episode of Benidorm.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 08, 2014, 05:29:37 AM
Hoddle looks like he hasn't had a bath for months.

He looks like he's just got out the bath, he's sweating that much
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 08, 2014, 05:30:19 AM
Ross to win it.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 08, 2014, 05:30:22 AM
Looks like he's going for a part in the next episode of Benidorm.

Bookmarked for post of the year!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: pjk on June 08, 2014, 05:30:45 AM
Has Gerrard passed to baines yet?



About 6 times and Baines seems a bit leggy and keeps passing it straight back to him. Shit passes from Stevie though.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 08, 2014, 05:31:08 AM
Looks like he's going for a part in the next episode of Benidorm.

I reckon someone swapped his sun cream for creasote.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: jongre123 on June 08, 2014, 05:31:22 AM
Ross on
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 08, 2014, 05:31:28 AM
i've had a few, and all 44 players are shite so far.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 08, 2014, 05:31:58 AM
On barkleys back straight from the off.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 08, 2014, 05:33:14 AM
Jeez, been on 2 minutes and he's pulled off the best move  of the game.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 08, 2014, 05:33:15 AM
On barkleys back straight from the off.

And then overhyping him a few seconds later.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 08, 2014, 05:33:55 AM
On barkleys back straight from the off.

And then they think he's a genius ...
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 08, 2014, 05:34:16 AM
Barkley can't win. Its such a shame
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 08, 2014, 05:34:21 AM
How long before Wilshire falls over? The snide cunt.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Heisenberg on June 08, 2014, 05:34:22 AM
Baines and Sturridge both brilliant players, no doubt. But neither look right for england
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 08, 2014, 05:36:48 AM
Baines and Sturridge both brilliant players, no doubt. But neither look right for england

Baines misses Pienaar, sturridge misses Suarez and coutinho.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 08, 2014, 05:36:58 AM
Our Ross' confidence is obviously in tatters after the heavy criticism by Hodgson.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 08, 2014, 05:38:37 AM
Ridiculously quick feet from Barkley on the edge of the box there. Still waiting for the replay.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 08, 2014, 05:40:29 AM
Sturridge is a cunt.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 08, 2014, 05:43:04 AM
Sturridge is a cunt.

Of thunderous proportions.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 08, 2014, 05:43:09 AM
Yet another thankless run from Baines, and then given the ball 10 seconds too late by Wellbeck/Sturridge.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 08, 2014, 05:46:25 AM
The passing is so much quicker now Gerrard has gone off. He's holding us back IMO.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 08, 2014, 05:47:02 AM
Any one else get the feeling that Roy is actually Gary Neville's beard?

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: jongre123 on June 08, 2014, 05:47:23 AM
Ross has already changed this game, there's some life in the attack now. Wilshere is making some good runs as well which is helping considering Gerrard isn't capable of that any more especially from the deep position.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Amata on June 08, 2014, 05:47:27 AM
More movement from England now.  Swap Welbeck for Sterling and this is the front 4 I would start in the Italy game.  Rooney is just living on reputation atm.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 08, 2014, 05:48:21 AM
Rooney is just living on reputation atm.

And pies.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 08, 2014, 05:48:40 AM
Look better without gerrard and Rooney
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 08, 2014, 05:49:38 AM
More movement from England now.  Swap Welbeck for Sterling and this is the front 4 I would start in the Italy game.  Rooney is just living on reputation atm.

Aye, its much more dynamic with the youngsters on.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 08, 2014, 05:50:33 AM
Henderson also plays better when Gerrard's not on the pitch.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 08, 2014, 05:51:15 AM
The passing is so much quicker now Gerrard has gone off. He's holding us back IMO.

I agree mate. He's exactly why when England get the ball forward after dwindling on the half way line for 40 seconds there's no space or options for anyone up front. It's why England have been shite for decades.

Alas as Gerrard is a media darling living on his reputation nobody (the pundits) can see he isn't half the player he was. "Gerrards so important for us", he's a burden IMO.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 08, 2014, 05:51:21 AM
At last that fucking cunt was sent off.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on June 08, 2014, 05:52:12 AM
Wilshere and Barkley have linked really well so far.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 08, 2014, 05:52:23 AM
WTF? Has Honduras received a massive financial aid package from Italy? There really is no need for Honduras to play like this.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: cantoffee on June 08, 2014, 05:52:32 AM
Honestly, Central American players are use to making these challenges when they play at home and getting away with them so this is no surprise.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 08, 2014, 05:53:00 AM
At last that fucking cunt was sent off.

England might get the 4 goals I need now... lolol
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on June 08, 2014, 05:55:41 AM
"That's maybe a fair call" ha Cahill completely poleaxed the lad.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: cantoffee on June 08, 2014, 05:57:00 AM
"That's maybe a fair call" ha Cahill completely poleaxed the lad.

Smashed him through the back and then landed right on top of him haha
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 08, 2014, 05:57:13 AM
Cahill unluckily there that Johnny foreign got in the way of his elbow
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 08, 2014, 05:58:47 AM
Donkey
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on June 08, 2014, 05:59:01 AM
Henderson has had more influence this half too, seems to bow to Gerrards seniority in the first.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 08, 2014, 05:59:29 AM
Henderson is much more himself when he's out of Gerrard's shadow. He looks intimidated to try anything when Captain Cuntface is on the pitch, constantly trying his Hollywood passes.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: cantoffee on June 08, 2014, 05:59:44 AM
lol cramping 70 minutes into a friendly what a joke

time wasting in a game that doesn't matter
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on June 08, 2014, 05:59:58 AM
Henderson is much more himself when he's out of Gerrard's shadow. He looks intimidated to try anything when Captain Cuntface is on the pitch, constantly trying his Hollywood passes.

Jinx :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 08, 2014, 06:00:36 AM
Gerrard really holds the team back.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on June 08, 2014, 06:00:49 AM
I never understand how a player at this level can head the ball, in front of goal, unchallenged, with his fucking eyes shut.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: cantoffee on June 08, 2014, 06:00:56 AM
Henderson has looked very good this half.

Lots of energy to get up and down the pitch, can pick a pass a lot better than I thought as well.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 08, 2014, 06:02:58 AM
Woy is apoplectic
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 08, 2014, 06:03:17 AM
Annoying this game now. Honduras wanna kick fuck and wanna play act. I'm done.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 08, 2014, 06:03:37 AM
Henderson has looked very good this half.

Lots of energy to get up and down the pitch, can pick a pass a lot better than I thought as well.

It pains me to agree with you but he's been good.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tony Clifton on June 08, 2014, 06:04:48 AM
Could have watched a couple of episodes of Deadwood instead of this.  Wish Baines had actually kicked a chunk out of that cunt there.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 08, 2014, 06:08:16 AM
Sturridge diving again the fucking shithouse. Clive and Andy saying fuck all though.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 08, 2014, 06:09:12 AM
Henderson was great there
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: cantoffee on June 08, 2014, 06:11:10 AM
Wilshere does the same thing every time. He runs forward, looks like he might do something, and then runs directly into an opponent.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 08, 2014, 06:12:35 AM
Wilshere does the same thing every time. He runs forward, looks like he might do something, and then runs directly into an opponent.

He does take people out of the game, if only the little cunt knew when to offload it, he could be really good.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Heisenberg on June 08, 2014, 06:15:39 AM
Not been impressed with lallana at all tonight
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: cantoffee on June 08, 2014, 06:15:44 AM
He does take people out of the game, if only the little cunt knew when to offload it, he could be really good.

He has no foresight though, he just decides to run forward and runs into a wall, even if he wanted to get rid of it, he ends up putting himself in a position where no teammates are available or it's nearly impossible to actually make the pass to them.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 08, 2014, 06:16:11 AM
Oh well it could be worse...

some poor bastard going to be watching on ITV+1
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Alfie Noakes on June 08, 2014, 06:16:58 AM
England are so bad I'm writing here.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 08, 2014, 06:17:36 AM
Lallana and Sturridge been very poor. Sturridge in particular has been awful.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: cantoffee on June 08, 2014, 06:17:56 AM
Sturridge has been awful tonight. Poor hold up play, holds the ball far too long, and not scoring when he's had 3 very good chances.

Still England's best option up front though.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 08, 2014, 06:19:22 AM
Also at least Jags got the armband, great honour for him
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on June 08, 2014, 06:19:28 AM
Hope Woy points out to the press how often Wilshire loses possession.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 08, 2014, 06:20:53 AM
We're going to have to put up with Gerrard in midfield and Rooney as a number 10 in the Italy game, even though it's painfully obvious that it's not the best option, and hopefully we're still in the game if and when we bring Wiltshire and Barkley on after 60-70 mins.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Thornton_19 on June 08, 2014, 06:21:05 AM
After that game I want to review me saying we'll beat Italy. If thats okay with everyone?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 08, 2014, 06:21:42 AM
Christ I hope Roy and their manager don't change shirts  :o
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tony Clifton on June 08, 2014, 06:21:59 AM
Honduras' manager just made Roy an offer he couldn't understand there.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Amata on June 08, 2014, 06:23:13 AM
Sturridge pisses me off sometimes when he slows everything down by doing that stupid little no reason twirl, when the ball comes to him. Sometimes he just needs to keep the ball moving quickly.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 08, 2014, 06:23:51 AM
Barkley was much, much better tonight.

It probably also has to do with his fitness (he didn't look shattered after fifteen minutes) and the fact he had better players around him, but he looked like the player we know he can be.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 08, 2014, 06:25:15 AM
Sturridge pisses me off sometimes when he slows everything down by doing that stupid little no reason twirl, when the ball comes to him. Sometimes he just needs to keep the ball moving quickly.

He does the classic lollipops standing still, goes nowhere with them, while everyone waits for him to get it over with, and then the defender calmly takes the ball off him. It's so fucking predictable.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 08, 2014, 06:26:18 AM
Don't think there's too much you can gauge from that game.

Have Everton ever had a player to captain England?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on June 08, 2014, 06:26:27 AM
Thought Barkley was great that half.

Was worried Baines was going to get injured the way it was going.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Alfie Noakes on June 08, 2014, 06:26:41 AM
Was Gerrard playing or did he get struck by lightning after 15 minutes?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 08, 2014, 06:26:46 AM
I think it's fair to say Italy won't be shitting themselves after England can't beat ten man Honduras.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on June 08, 2014, 06:27:17 AM
Barkley was much, much better tonight.

It probably also has to do with his fitness (he didn't look shattered after fifteen minutes) and the fact he had better players around him, but he looked like the player we know he can be.

He basically looks like the player Roy's hoping Rooney can become again.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: bacon sarnie on June 08, 2014, 06:27:34 AM
Two contenders for the 20 quid prize there after that display.

Unless he bins Rooney, Gerrard, Lampard, Sturridge, Johnson and Lallana it'll be a quick samba in Rio.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on June 08, 2014, 06:27:37 AM
I think it's fair to say Italy won't be shitting themselves after England can't beat ten man Honduras.
After their 1-1 draw against Luxembourg then neither team should bother turning up and just take the point really.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 08, 2014, 06:27:55 AM
I think it's fair to say Italy won't be shitting themselves after England can't beat ten man Honduras.

Italy just drew with Luxembourg and haven't won in 7 games. It's all completely meaningless.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 08, 2014, 06:28:10 AM
@henrywinter: Leighton Baines walking straight off, not stopping to shake hands or swap shirts with Hondurans (some of whom had been kicking him)

Fucking hell. You know you've been a bunch of cunts when you puss Baines off like that
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Amata on June 08, 2014, 06:28:12 AM
Thought Barkley was great that half.

Was worried Baines was going to get injured the way it was going.

Daily Telegraph's Henry Winter on Twitter: Leighton Baines walking straight off, not stopping to shake hands or swap shirts with Hondurans (some of whom had been kicking him).

Obviously Baines thought the same as he's normally too nice.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Thornton_19 on June 08, 2014, 06:29:59 AM
In far more interesting news Alridore is currently on a hattrick with 20 mins to go against Nigeria.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: cantoffee on June 08, 2014, 06:29:59 AM
Hard to judge when it's a friendly against Honduras but that wasn't exactly inspiring if you're an England supporter.

Gerrard is a very good player, but he dominates the ball so much and the other players look to him all the time that sometimes I wonder if it hurts the team as a whole.

Barry sitting beside Henderson would be a better combination I think, at least for the balance of the side.

That being said, despite his long passes being incredibly frustrating, he is decent at it and it could help open up some teams. He is also the type of player that pops up with important goals and provides a threat going forward that none of the other central midfield players do.

Glen Johnson though is just absolute shite. He's not even good going forward anymore!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Goaljira on June 08, 2014, 06:31:52 AM

Don't think there's too much you can gauge from that game.

Have Everton ever had a player to captain England?

Phil Neville ended up with the armband in one of Sven's 11 sub friendlies.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cuttyblue on June 08, 2014, 06:32:56 AM
In far more interesting news Alridore is currently on a hattrick with 20 mins to go against Nigeria.

2nd goal was a truly quality striker's goal. :)

Poor Yobo having a mare tho :(
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: pjk on June 08, 2014, 06:33:47 AM
Barkley was much, much better tonight.

It probably also has to do with his fitness (he didn't look shattered after fifteen minutes) and the fact he had better players around him, but he looked like the player we know he can be.




Have to agree there, he was purring tonight.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 08, 2014, 06:35:56 AM
He basically looks like the player Roy's hoping Rooney can become again.

Rooney's clearly not fit enough yet. And he's not one of those players who can still make themselves useful when half fit, he has to fire on all cylinders to be effective.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 08, 2014, 06:37:55 AM
Phil Neville ended up with the armband in one of Sven's 11 sub friendlies.

He's such a fucking geg in
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 08, 2014, 06:38:21 AM
Rooney's clearly not fit enough yet. And he's not one of those players who can still make themselves useful when half fit, he has to fire on all cylinders to be effective.

I think he's holding a lot back.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 08, 2014, 06:47:02 AM
Roll on next Saturday then. I'll be in Italy if all goes well, this should be interesting. :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 08, 2014, 06:48:21 AM
Italy just drew with Luxembourg and haven't won in 7 games. It's all completely meaningless.

After their 1-1 draw against Luxembourg then neither team should bother turning up and just take the point really.

That's the spirit lads, you see you do care. It's like supporting Everton/your country, we can slag them off if we want to but as soon as someone who supports another club/country does that's not on and we get all defensive. ;)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Heisenberg on June 08, 2014, 06:52:49 AM
Anyone got lallanas stats?

Curious to know if im just being biased because he's joining liverpool
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 08, 2014, 06:55:16 AM
Anyone got lallanas stats?

Curious to know if im just being biased because he's joining liverpool

No stats but I think he started well, only to fade very badly in the second half. Some of his runs were still useful but he was nowhere near as good as the pundits claimed him to be.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 08, 2014, 06:56:12 AM
Lallana would be much better on the left, linking with Baines. Another point that Hoddle made. It's painfully obvious.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 08, 2014, 06:56:34 AM
Even when it's darker and cooler Glenn Hoddle still looks like he's just had a quick knee trembler with Eileen Drury up against the dugout.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tony Clifton on June 08, 2014, 08:36:12 AM
Phil Neville ended up with the armband in one of Sven's 11 sub friendlies.

Which says it all... 
Besides, even if it was 1966, Phuckoff Neville wouldn't count. 
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on June 08, 2014, 09:41:04 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t31.0-8/p843x403/10348701_477881342342198_4378318902873981276_o.jpg)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 08, 2014, 01:55:58 PM
Lallana would be much better on the left, linking with Baines. Another point that Hoddle made. It's painfully obvious.
so much is painfully obvious about this side, that's what makes it so fucking annoying
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 08, 2014, 05:14:24 PM
Go Honduras. We're gonna win the world cup. Just sit back and watch us!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: toffee_scot on June 08, 2014, 05:22:03 PM
2nd goal was a truly quality striker's goal. :)

Poor Yobo having a mare tho :(

Have his shoe laces become undone again?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: toffee_scot on June 08, 2014, 05:29:14 PM
Interestingly, after Marco Reus's injury the person who has been called up to replace him is - Shkodran Mustafi!

The one that got away?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 09, 2014, 02:27:39 AM
Epic fail
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Thornton_19 on June 09, 2014, 03:19:28 AM
Interestingly, after Marco Reus's injury the person who has been called up to replace him is - Shkodran Mustafi!

The one that got away?

I was always under the impression he was home sick and didn't resign because of that.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Thornton_19 on June 09, 2014, 03:59:24 AM
Italy playing Fluminese on Sky Sports 3. Decent game so far
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 09, 2014, 04:29:12 AM
France finished their warm-up by butt-fucking Jamaica 8-0
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: ForzaItalia on June 09, 2014, 04:38:58 AM
I was always under the impression he was home sick and didn't resign because of that.

Went to Sampdoria from us didn't he?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on June 09, 2014, 04:46:03 AM
I see Morgan Schneiderlin has sneaked into the French squad!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Thornton_19 on June 09, 2014, 05:14:31 AM
He did. Thought that was the reason he gave though, I deffo read it somewhere.

Also Italy 5 3 Fluminese. This is a proper game of Football.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 09, 2014, 03:42:43 PM
Great article on Pirlo by Amy Lawrence:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/jun/07/andrea-pirlo-architect-italy-world-cup-grand-designs (http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/jun/07/andrea-pirlo-architect-italy-world-cup-grand-designs)

A selected quote:

When his friend Buffon welcomed him to the Turin club in 2011-12 he was astounded that Milan could let such talent slip away. “A player of his level and ability, he was the signing of the century,” said Buffon, laughing, after Pirlo had tilted the title race Juventus’s way with another masterclass assist. “Watching him play I thought God exists because it’s simply embarrassing how good he is.”
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 09, 2014, 08:42:53 PM
sky making a big fuss about televising england's imminent training session...

would anyone on here really give a fuck about this, or watch it?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 09, 2014, 11:08:38 PM
Great article on Pirlo by Amy Lawrence:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/jun/07/andrea-pirlo-architect-italy-world-cup-grand-designs (http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/jun/07/andrea-pirlo-architect-italy-world-cup-grand-designs)

A selected quote:

When his friend Buffon welcomed him to the Turin club in 2011-12 he was astounded that Milan could let such talent slip away. “A player of his level and ability, he was the signing of the century,” said Buffon, laughing, after Pirlo had tilted the title race Juventus’s way with another masterclass assist. “Watching him play I thought God exists because it’s simply embarrassing how good he is.”

Pirlo is so fucking boss.

Him against Gerrard in a few days will be like that episode of Spiderman where he comes up against a shit imposter of himself. The superhero always wins!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on June 09, 2014, 11:13:30 PM
sky making a big fuss about televising england's imminent training session...

would anyone on here really give a fuck about this, or watch it?

I did watch it but I was never as excited about it as sky wanted me to be but what else do you expect from them??

It's the biggest footy tournament in the world and they don't have a single game on their platform. It must absolutely kill them.

They just about soiled theirselves announcing Steve Sidwell had joined Stoke. It was on the yellow breaking news banner for over 3 hours.

It's what's known as feeding off scraps.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on June 09, 2014, 11:15:38 PM
Pirlo is so fucking boss.

Him against Gerrard in a few days will be like that episode of Spiderman where he comes up against a shit imposter of himself. The superhero always wins!

I hope we absolutely tonk them Italian cunts all over, if only just to make you pipe the fuck down about them.

England are nothing special, we all know that. But nor are Italy!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 09, 2014, 11:19:37 PM
Gerrard a doubt now. That could be very good news the ball hogging, always looks like crying prick
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 09, 2014, 11:28:09 PM
I hope we absolutely tonk them Italian cunts all over, if only just to make you pipe the fuck down about them.

England are nothing special, we all know that. But nor are Italy!

Sorry to tread on your toes by having an opinion on another nation. I'll be more parochial next time. If it's so much of a problem I recommend staying away from international football.

I'm not making it an England vs. Italy thing. Fifa did that when they pulled the balls out the pots. Maybe you're right though England have a good chance of winning. So long as they don't player AOC on the right yeah?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 09, 2014, 11:32:33 PM
I did watch it but I was never as excited about it as sky wanted me to be but what else do you expect from them??

It's the biggest footy tournament in the world and they don't have a single game on their platform. It must absolutely kill them.

They just about soiled theirselves announcing Steve Sidwell had joined Stoke. It was on the yellow breaking news banner for over 3 hours.

It's what's known as feeding off scraps.

fair enough. you gave one more less fuck about it than i did :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on June 09, 2014, 11:35:28 PM
Gerrard a doubt now. That could be very good news the ball hogging, always looks like crying prick

Where you heard this James??

There's been no SKY SOURCES: Steven Gerrard a major doubt for England's game against Italy on the yellow ticker!!

"Let's cross live now to our chief football reporter Nick Collins for more on this potential devastating blow ahead of that game on Saturday"
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Heisenberg on June 09, 2014, 11:35:37 PM
So long as they don't player AOC on the right yeah?

I've just spent far too long wondering what you meant by the african cup of nations playing on the right. Think I need a cat nap
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on June 09, 2014, 11:38:04 PM
Sorry to tread on your toes by having an opinion on another nation. I'll be more parochial next time. If it's so much of a problem I recommend staying away from international football.

I'm not making it an England vs. Italy thing. Fifa did that when they pulled the balls out the pots. Maybe you're right though England have a good chance of winning. So long as they don't player AOC on the right yeah?

It's the over bias you have towards the two teams.

England are not as hopeless as you make out, and Italy don't have the heaven 11 you seem to think.

No worries about the AoC on the right problem though is there, cocka😉
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on June 09, 2014, 11:38:34 PM
I definitely think @hill135 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3741) overrates Italy but I think they're going to go far in the tournament and are definitely superior to England.

I think only Baines and Sturridge would definitely make it into a combined XI and maybe Lallana and Hart (I think both goalkeepers are liabilities).
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 09, 2014, 11:49:54 PM
I fail to see how I over-rate Italy. When I did a predictor I had them going out in the QFs. If they're superior to England and going to go far in the tourney then that's all I said too. I wouldn't have them as potential winners.

@Haile GAZrselassie (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=44). I don't think I have an anti-English Bias. It just strikes me that England's players aren't as good as most think they are (Gerrard for example), or they are good but young and inexperienced (AOC, Barkley etc); that they have no discernible way of playing; and there are big holes in the squad. There are no midfielders who can control a game. The only two English midfielders who can do this Carrick and Barry are sat at home watching the tourney. That England fail to deliver is borne out by experience.
     
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 09, 2014, 11:52:35 PM
Gerrard would play with his leg hanging off in this World Cup seeing as it's his last and he's England's Captain fantastic.

Shame really because the only time they've looked decent in theses warm up games is when he's been off the pitch and Wilshire and Henderson have been in the middle.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 10, 2014, 12:04:23 AM
Where you heard this James??

There's been no SKY SOURCES: Steven Gerrard a major doubt for England's game against Italy on the yellow ticker!!

"Let's cross live now to our chief football reporter Nick Collins for more on this potential devastating blow ahead of that game on Saturday"
journo's on twitter saying he tweaked his groin and sat out training or elements off pal. Hey mate.. You been getting any texts off "tipsters" lately? Move this convo somewhere else if need be!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on June 10, 2014, 12:52:12 AM
@Jimmywhack (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=329)

I hear ya brother, quick whackman, to the gamblingthreadmobeel
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: ForzaItalia on June 10, 2014, 03:13:06 AM
Would much prefer to see Gerrard playing personally.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: bacon sarnie on June 10, 2014, 05:00:51 AM
Would much prefer to see Gerrard playing personally.

Imagine Italy would as well.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: ForzaItalia on June 10, 2014, 03:52:59 PM
Exactly.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Heisenberg on June 10, 2014, 04:25:41 PM
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 10, 2014, 09:54:00 PM
Can never read too much into friendly results pre-tournament, but Ghana beat South Korea 4-0 last night. When added to their 6-1 defeat of Egypt in the qualifiers, maybe they could be a decent shout as dark horses (no shouts of racism please).
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 10, 2014, 10:46:35 PM
(http://d1p3t35jiqtse7.cloudfront.net/content/uploads/2014/06/hopes-venn.jpg)

Country hopes by venn diagram.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 10, 2014, 11:16:49 PM
I like that I've got a dark horse with high hopes in the sweep!

Forza Italia!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 11, 2014, 12:04:08 AM
Iran are dangerously close to high hopes there
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bob Sacamano on June 11, 2014, 01:07:46 AM
Yeah buddy
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Goaljira on June 12, 2014, 04:32:05 AM
I'm fed up of Pele already.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Shogun on June 12, 2014, 05:26:45 AM
1) Do you want Klose to get the goal record at the World Cup?

2) Which group game are you looking forward to most.



I'd rather Ronaldo kept his World Cup goal scoring record as I don't think that Klose is as deserving. Germany v Portugal will be class.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 12, 2014, 05:31:11 AM
Mexico vs Brazil.

And I want Ronaldo to keep the record. The greatest striker to ever play the game. He's the reason I love football, and when I think of the World Cup my first thought is always him in France 98
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 12, 2014, 05:31:53 AM
1) Do you want Klose to get the goal record at the World Cup?

2) Which group game are you looking forward to most.



I'd rather Ronaldo kept his World Cup goal scoring record as I don't think that Klose is as deserving. Germany v Portugal will be class.


1. Yes.  I've always liked Klose.  Would have been amazing if we signed him the other year
2.Germany v Portugal, Spain v Netherlands and Uruguay v England all excite me
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 12, 2014, 05:34:59 AM
Just as a general comment, I am so fucking pumped for this WC. Ever since it was announced it was going to be in Brazil in 2014, and imagining how that would be. And here it is, we're on the fucking eve of it. Unbelievable.

Well fed up of Pele, and I think he's amazing and before the current generation I had him as the best player ever.

No on Klose getting the record, for the reason that Shogs mentions.

Game I'm looking forward to the most in the groups - probably Spain v Chile.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 12, 2014, 05:55:21 AM
1) no want Ronaldo to keep the record
2) pretty much same as Stealth on games!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 12, 2014, 05:57:01 AM
Just as a general comment, I am so fucking pumped for this WC. Ever since it was announced it was going to be in Brazil in 2014, and imagining how that would be. And here it is, we're on the fucking eve of it. Unbelievable.

Well fed up of Pele, and I think he's amazing and before the current generation I had him as the best player ever.

No on Klose getting the record, for the reason that Shogs mentions.

Game I'm looking forward to the most in the groups - probably Spain v Chile.

I am proper excited for this!Ive just immersed myself in it!booked the entire group stages off work, purely just to watch it on tv at home!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 12, 2014, 06:10:40 AM
This is the first world cup I've taken an active interest since 06 when France did so well, and the 1990 was the one before that.

My favorite world cup goal is still the one scored by Bergkamp v Argentina in 94. Was it really that long ago?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 12, 2014, 06:18:25 AM
This is the first world cup I've taken an active interest since 06 when France did so well, and the 1990 was the one before that.

My favorite world cup goal is still the one scored by Bergkamp v Argentina in 94. Was it really that long ago?

bergkamp v argies was 98
Title: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bob Sacamano on June 12, 2014, 06:23:46 AM
bergkamp v argies was 98

'02?

You're right. My memory has really done a number on me there
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 12, 2014, 06:27:43 AM
Yeah, and there was me thinking all these youtube videos had it wrong. Always thought it was in the US world cup and the final score was 3-2 to the Dutch.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 12, 2014, 06:38:39 AM
Watching footage this week of previous world cups and I love the way they manage to perfectly encapsulate eras.  Spain '82 looked cool as fuck!02 was possibly the least stylish tournament

The star players, the underdogs, the kits, the controversy, the fans, the passion, the goals, the managers, the stadiums, the fit birds in the stand....I just Fucking love the World Cup!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: cantoffee on June 12, 2014, 07:51:12 AM
First WC I can remember is 98 and I'm not sure any of the others ones since then have lived up to it. Although 2002 did have Ronaldo and Brazil and 2006 had Zidane at his finest despite the end.

I have high hopes for this WC! I want to watch every Brazil game, I love when home countries do well in these situations, and I love when people say Samba football even though it's cringeworthy!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 12, 2014, 08:00:29 AM
I remember bits of 86, but was only getting into football. 90 was the first one I followed properly. What a tournament that was. Best England team in my life that was.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on June 12, 2014, 09:54:37 AM
I remember bits of 86, but was only getting into football. 90 was the first one I followed properly. What a tournament that was. Best England team in my life that was.

And probably no coincidence that since the birth of the PL the national team has been largely absolute baba!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: GLewis on June 12, 2014, 01:18:23 PM
And probably no coincidence that since the birth of the PL the national team has been largely absolute baba!

Well apart from the odd time the national side has always been shite.

At the end of the 70's/early 80's when English teams were winning CLs pretty regularly what did the national team do?

Didn't qualify for 78 (or 74 before that) and rubbish in 82.

Ignoring the first few decades of the game England, apart from 66-70, have been, at best, a decent international side nothing more.



Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 12, 2014, 01:25:18 PM
First WC I can remember is 98 and I'm not sure any of the others ones since then have lived up to it. Although 2002 did have Ronaldo and Brazil and 2006 had Zidane at his finest despite the end.

I have high hopes for this WC! I want to watch every Brazil game, I love when home countries do well in these situations, and I love when people say Samba football even though it's cringeworthy!

Not to mention that there is a decent chance they could earn you £200!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on June 12, 2014, 03:22:11 PM
Really hope it doesn't turn into a British moan fest about the state of the fan parks, the pitches, the stadia, the transport system, the weather. It wont be laid on a plate for visiting fans as it might be in other countries, and some fans may have to rough it in places but if you go there and act sensible with the approach that some of these things will be innevitable then it should be the trip of a lifetime. Can't wait for tonight, even Chiles and Townsend will fail to dampen my spirits.   
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 12, 2014, 04:05:56 PM
Really hope it doesn't turn into a British moan fest about the state of the fan parks, the pitches, the stadia, the transport system, the weather. It wont be laid on a plate for visiting fans as it might be in other countries, and some fans may have to rough it in places but if you go there and act sensible with the approach that some of these things will be innevitable then it should be the trip of a lifetime. Can't wait for tonight, even Chiles and Townsend will fail to dampen my spirits.   

you can already sense England are ready to blame the group stage exit on factors like the state of the pitch, whereas Pirlo has already basically said both teams are gonna play on the same pitch and that He will be man of the match regardless, the sexy bearded winning bastard!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 12, 2014, 04:10:55 PM
Reckon this will be the best opening ceremony in World Cup history!

(http://mrtours.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/samba-girl.jpg)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 12, 2014, 05:59:19 PM
Reckon this will be the best opening ceremony in World Cup history!

(http://mrtours.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/samba-girl.jpg)

agreed...and she can open my ceremony, anytime...

(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn101/LunaWolf445/Wolves/HowlingSnowWolf.gif)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 12, 2014, 06:04:04 PM
Reckon this will be the best opening ceremony in World Cup history!

(http://mrtours.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/samba-girl.jpg)

She's the opening ceremony???
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 12, 2014, 06:12:10 PM
She's the opening ceremony???

Her and a couple of other hundred at least! <eagerly awaits costume malfunction>
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 12, 2014, 07:05:35 PM
She's the opening ceremony???
Its either her or thousands of rioters, should be a good watch either way
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Goaljira on June 12, 2014, 07:07:26 PM
The groups this time seem to have thrown up a lot more enticing games than previous tournament.  Spain v Chile should be a cracker, and I think is the match I'm looking forward to most.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on June 12, 2014, 07:10:52 PM
It's here.

Find out tonight what shifts I'm working for the next 3 weeks. There's gonna be hell to pay if I'm working any 2-10 shifts!!

Basically told the boss at work that if he puts me on afters then I can feel a virus coming on!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 12, 2014, 07:12:15 PM
It's here.

Find out tonight what shifts I'm working for the next 3 weeks. There's gonna be hell to pay if I'm working any 2-10 shifts!!

Basically told the boss at work that if he puts me on afters then I can feel a virus coming on!!
The joys of office work ;)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 12, 2014, 07:24:05 PM
Everything you need to know, from our friends at The Onion:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/world-cup-teams-to-watch,36253/ (http://www.theonion.com/articles/world-cup-teams-to-watch,36253/)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 12, 2014, 07:28:04 PM
Quite a good preview on Good Morning America. Just highlighted the basics before going down sexist lines of a who's the hottest player tournament.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/fullpage/world-cup-2014-hottest-player-bracket-challenge-23828820 (http://abcnews.go.com/US/fullpage/world-cup-2014-hottest-player-bracket-challenge-23828820)

If that was on women, all hell would break loose lol
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 12, 2014, 08:13:30 PM
what time is the ceremony meant to begin?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 12, 2014, 08:16:02 PM
what time is the ceremony meant to begin?

7.30 I think
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 12, 2014, 08:16:24 PM
Quite a good preview on Good Morning America. Just highlighted the basics before going down sexist lines of a who's the hottest player tournament.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/fullpage/world-cup-2014-hottest-player-bracket-challenge-23828820 (http://abcnews.go.com/US/fullpage/world-cup-2014-hottest-player-bracket-challenge-23828820)

If that was on women, all hell would break loose lol

Pirlo, Lavezzi or Zusi :)

They were obviously struggling to fill this, some very strange submissions haha
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 12, 2014, 08:16:46 PM
7.30 I think

Thanks babe
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: cantoffee on June 12, 2014, 09:47:00 PM
Not to mention that there is a decent chance they could earn you £200!

shhhhh

 :blush:

I am praying that the Canadian dollar continues to get weaker so my winnings will increase!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on June 12, 2014, 10:45:21 PM
How is it shaping up in North America??

Does it even get reported it's taking place??

What percentage of folk actually care about the game thesedays?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tinga on June 12, 2014, 11:11:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy1rumvo9xc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy1rumvo9xc)

This is brilliant.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 12, 2014, 11:20:08 PM
She's the opening ceremony???

I'll be opening her ceremony
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 13, 2014, 12:14:28 AM
How is it shaping up in North America??

Does it even get reported it's taking place??

What percentage of folk actually care about the game thesedays?

Big feature on it on Good Morning America this morning. Showing a lot about the US team. ESPN and ABC are broadcasting every game. GMA even compared it to the Superbowl for every country in the world to give Americans the idea of how massive it is.

Most kids play the game (my step son does for example), I think it is growing in popularity. Expect the US to become a major international power within 20 years.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 13, 2014, 12:45:55 AM
Raw: Space Station Crew Ready for World Cup (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB2ogpuq8ps#ws)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: slothzen on June 13, 2014, 12:46:34 AM
I think many would be surprised at how much the World Cup has caught on in the US.  No one cares until it's right on top of us, like now, though.  And most will consider it a novelty, but it's definitely getting a lot of attention.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 13, 2014, 12:52:50 AM
I would suspect similar to how the Super Bowl was viewed in the UK.  It's a novelty event, but most people are aware and most sports fans will watch at least some of it.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on June 13, 2014, 01:00:34 AM
I would suspect similar to how the Super Bowl was viewed in the UK.  It's a novelty event, but most people are aware and most sports fans will watch at least some of it.

If that's true, then it seems soccer still has a long wayyyyyy to go to become popular over there.

Absolutely nobody I know gives a monkeys about the Super Bowl!

When I think about facing up to a month of Adrian Chiles and Lee Dixon though I wish I didn't care much about the World Cup either!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 13, 2014, 01:01:31 AM
Satirical take on how the average 'murrikan sees the World Cup:

http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2014/06/this-week-in-fck-you-the-world-cup.html (http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2014/06/this-week-in-fck-you-the-world-cup.html)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gumpinio on June 13, 2014, 01:03:03 AM
ITVs football coverage is always so disappointing.
Gutted they have the opening game.
Wait a sec....  IS THAT CANNAVARO!  All is forgiven!  Just keep the camera on him when Childes is chatting away.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 13, 2014, 01:06:11 AM
I will be interested to see how the World Cup final ratings measure up to, say, NFL regular season broadcasts.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 13, 2014, 01:07:28 AM
Pre-game coverage here won't start for another hour.  I'm really, really bored.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Thom on June 13, 2014, 01:07:34 AM
Excitement has finally built up, after the hype surrounding E3 has abated.

Properly up for this now.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 13, 2014, 01:10:03 AM
Can Croatia at least make a game of this, for at least 60 minutes or so?  I don't want to be all bored again instantaneously, especially with no other games on tap today.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on June 13, 2014, 01:15:55 AM
What the absolute fuck was that advert all about?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 13, 2014, 01:27:03 AM
If that's true, then it seems soccer still has a long wayyyyyy to go to become popular over there.

They've had a World Cup and David Beckham in the last 20 years and still it's nowhere near as popular as their home sports like American Football, Baseball, Basketball etc. Football will always be a minority sport in the USA, certainly compared to it's general popularity in the majority of the world.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 13, 2014, 01:31:35 AM
Just tuned in have I missed the girls in bikinis?

Can't be arsed listening to Clive Tyldesley given a scripted history lesson on Brazil it's worse than his commentary somehow
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 13, 2014, 01:32:10 AM
It will definitely stay secondary to NFL and college football/basketball, but it clearly has room to grow.  With respect to the Prem and World Cup more so than MLS (which is going to stay very regional, in my view).

The truth lies between the two most popularly expressed views (Americans will never embrace football vs. football will inevitably explode and dominate American sport like it does most other places).
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 13, 2014, 01:33:28 AM
This is fucking shite.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 13, 2014, 01:35:44 AM
They could definitely do this without Tyldsley saying anything.  Proper annoying!

More birds please!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 13, 2014, 01:36:47 AM
For old times' sake.

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/footy/ (http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/footy/)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 13, 2014, 01:38:22 AM
J'lo....I still would. Controversial I know
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 13, 2014, 01:38:35 AM
Need a wank now.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 13, 2014, 01:38:53 AM
The panic in Jo Lo face when they got stuck in that stage lift made her forget to mime words !  lolol lolol
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tinga on June 13, 2014, 01:39:04 AM
I wonder if they're going for a version were you can't understand anything whatsoever?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Simon Paul on June 13, 2014, 01:39:37 AM
what the absolute fuck is Pitbull?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tinga on June 13, 2014, 01:41:18 AM
what the absolute fuck is Pitbull?

Somebody who likes to took their footy tops into their jeans.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Simon Paul on June 13, 2014, 01:43:41 AM
Somebody who likes to took their footy tops into their jeans.

white jeans at that

white jeans that are too small for him

white jeans that are too small for a 33 year old man should never, ever, EVER, be worn in public
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: macko on June 13, 2014, 01:44:53 AM
what the absolute fuck is Pitbull?
I think the polite term is bellend.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 13, 2014, 01:49:20 AM
what the absolute fuck is Pitbull?

I now understand why they get put down
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 13, 2014, 01:51:01 AM
what the absolute fuck is Pitbull?

He does terrible Bud Light commercials here.  He's the fucking worst.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on June 13, 2014, 01:57:47 AM
Let's get this motherfucking tournament started - EXCITED!!!

edit - apologies for the bad language, but my excitement levels only get this high every 4 years!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tinga on June 13, 2014, 02:06:13 AM
Rory Breaker though.  lolol
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Simon Paul on June 13, 2014, 02:19:05 AM
sad scenes in Sao Paulo there with the riot police out in full force
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 13, 2014, 02:19:50 AM
Whoever you have doing tactical analysis...we have it better in the States with Roberto!  He's fantastic at breaking things down, without making it like spoon-feeding an idiot.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on June 13, 2014, 02:20:12 AM
Has Fabio Cannavaro got a couple of caterpillars above his eyes?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: theshred on June 13, 2014, 02:21:58 AM
Roberto Martinez talking Croatia defensive tactics stopping Neymar on ESPN. Very interesting, he thinks they have too much of a attacking starting line up.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 13, 2014, 02:24:10 AM
When Roberto thinks you're being too attack-minded, that's saying something.

No worries, though.  Jela is starting, he's always good for at least a hat trick.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 13, 2014, 02:30:30 AM
have you guys got a link to the espn coverage?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 13, 2014, 02:31:08 AM
So fucking pumped for this. That is a seriously attacking team Croatia have put out. Shame they have no Mandzukic. Fancy Brazil 3-1 for this.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 13, 2014, 02:32:28 AM
Roberto Martinez talking Croatia defensive tactics stopping Neymar on ESPN. Very interesting, he thinks they have too much of a attacking starting line up.

The Croatia manager was saying they're gonna have a go. I think they're a decent side but could see them getting opened up a fair bit. 3-0 Brazil.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: theshred on June 13, 2014, 02:32:42 AM
Too attacking in the sense that the back 4 has no cover, no defensive mid. He would have liked to see someone playing the Barry/Mccarthey jobs. Considering they don't score from open play too much, he noted 36% of Croatia goals come from dead ball situations, the attacking midfielders aren't adding the scoring they are there for. A defensive mid would do wonders to helping stop Neymar.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 13, 2014, 02:36:47 AM
I'm going with Roberto's warnings being on-point.  4-1 Brazil.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on June 13, 2014, 02:41:33 AM
Always been a fan of Ivica Olic. Works his bollocks off.

Glad he's playing.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 13, 2014, 02:41:41 AM
Nice to see Croatia not bothering with a number 6, and going with effectively three number 10s instead.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 13, 2014, 02:42:34 AM
Fucking hell. Didn't realise just how good a team Croatia have
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 13, 2014, 02:43:25 AM
have you guys got a link to the espn coverage?

You'll need to get in your private jet/teleporter and beam over here instead.  Warning - I'm out of beer.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 13, 2014, 02:44:26 AM
Well if you are out of beer then defo not :smug:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 13, 2014, 02:44:49 AM
COME ON JELA :D
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 13, 2014, 02:46:30 AM
I'd normally want the underdogs to shock the hosts in this scenario, especially any team than has Modric, Rakitic and Kovacic, but I want Brazil to have a good tournament and for their people to enjoy it.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: jongre123 on June 13, 2014, 02:46:40 AM
Nice to see Croatia not bothering with a number 6, and going with effectively three number 10s instead.

There is a lot of creativity in there, which should hopefully help make an exciting game of football. They have two world class playmakers and Kovacic, who many expect to become one, to provide service  to the wingers and Jelavic . So they definitely are a threat going forward, its whether their defence can cope with the pressure that Brazil will produce.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tinga on June 13, 2014, 02:48:50 AM
So fucking pumped for this. That is a seriously attacking team Croatia have put out. Shame they have no Mandzukic. Fancy Brazil 3-1 for this.

I also have 3-1 in the sweeps, hopefully we're right!.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 13, 2014, 02:52:09 AM
4-2 i think
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 13, 2014, 02:55:51 AM
didnt know james bond played for Croatia...
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 13, 2014, 02:57:38 AM
brazillian players love their anthem :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 13, 2014, 02:59:14 AM
I've forgotten how much I love the national anthems from the South American countries
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 13, 2014, 02:59:18 AM
I'd normally want the underdogs to shock the hosts in this scenario, especially any team than has Modric, Rakitic and Kovacic, but I want Brazil to have a good tournament and for their people to enjoy it.

You're nicer than me.  Rooting for Spain (money) and chaos.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Simon Paul on June 13, 2014, 02:59:39 AM
fucking goosebumps!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 13, 2014, 03:01:04 AM
fucking goosebumps!

It's fucking immense isn't it? Like being a kid again.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Simon Paul on June 13, 2014, 03:01:45 AM
It's fucking immense isn't it? Like being a kid again.

i love this!

that national anthem was immense
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ell Capitan on June 13, 2014, 03:08:21 AM
Quite a bit of pride seeing Jela leading the line in the opening match of the World Cup. He left us to follow his dream of securing his place in the World Cup, and there he is. Love him.

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 13, 2014, 03:09:15 AM
Shoulda scored
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 13, 2014, 03:09:33 AM
hmm. early signs say that brazil might not have this all their own way.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Simon Paul on June 13, 2014, 03:10:19 AM
should have buried that
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 13, 2014, 03:11:40 AM
Jela deserves some good Karma coming his way.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 13, 2014, 03:12:22 AM
hahaha
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 13, 2014, 03:12:44 AM
hmm. early signs say that brazil might not have this all their own way.

Brazil looks tight as fuck.  I guess if my country not going up in flames was dependent on my athletic performance...I would be too.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 13, 2014, 03:12:45 AM
Ha ha lucky man jelavic
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 13, 2014, 03:12:51 AM
Fucking hell. Get Marcelo under 24 hour security guard for the next few weeks.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ell Capitan on June 13, 2014, 03:13:21 AM
Good to see Jelavic hasn't lost his touch.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Simon Paul on June 13, 2014, 03:13:45 AM
oh dear!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 13, 2014, 03:13:52 AM
LMAO, right on cue.  Strategic mishit by Jela.  The antithesis of his last days on Merseyside.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 13, 2014, 03:13:56 AM
wow!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 13, 2014, 03:15:22 AM
Olic really exploiting that gap that Alves leaves on a few occasions already. Smart by Croatia.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 13, 2014, 03:17:25 AM
Well the o.g ensures my scorecast is still in for a chance!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Simon Paul on June 13, 2014, 03:19:13 AM
lovely bit of football there though from Brazil
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 13, 2014, 03:20:12 AM
Nice take down from Dani Alves. No Seamus Coleman, but he's ok.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 13, 2014, 03:21:32 AM
early in the game yet, but these seem quite unlike the brazil of old.

i suppose that too many of them ply their trade away from s america these days.

how often does anyone remember them systematically crossing a corner? used to be more inventive.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 13, 2014, 03:22:51 AM
early in the game yet, but these seem quite unlike the brazil of old.

i suppose that too many of them ply their trade away from s america these days.

how often does anyone remember them systematically crossing a corner? used to be more inventive.

They're much more functional that previous Brazil teams. It's Scolari's way. He's very much a Hodgson style pragmatist.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 13, 2014, 03:23:54 AM
Ooh
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ell Capitan on June 13, 2014, 03:24:32 AM
Fucking brilliant game so far. And another 30 days of this to go. Fucking yes!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on June 13, 2014, 03:30:38 AM
interesting how it's getting dark there pretty much the same time as it's getting dark here - despite the 4 hour (?) time difference. It's almost like the game is being played in the UK!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 13, 2014, 03:30:54 AM
1-1
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 13, 2014, 03:31:02 AM
1-1
reality bites :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 13, 2014, 03:32:01 AM
awful defending by the midfield!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: stirlingblue on June 13, 2014, 03:33:26 AM
If Jelavic got his head up there it would have been 2-0 not 1-1.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 13, 2014, 03:35:07 AM
hulk is well named, isn't he :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ell Capitan on June 13, 2014, 03:47:22 AM
3 times Olic has nearly cost Croatia there. What's he up to.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 13, 2014, 03:48:10 AM
3 times Olic has nearly cost Croatia there. What's he up to.

After starting well, he's getting pinned back a lot more and trying frankly ridiculous things in dangerous areas.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 13, 2014, 03:49:53 AM
great start to the tournament. roll on the 2nd half.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Silas on June 13, 2014, 03:53:25 AM
Think Brazil will be too strong second half but Croatia are a decent team. Have a real chance of making it out the group
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 13, 2014, 03:55:30 AM
Nice to see Croatia giving a good account of themselves, Neymar a very lucky boy isn't he
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 13, 2014, 03:56:10 AM
Luiz gustavo looks like magnums mate, can't remember his name
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: pjk on June 13, 2014, 03:58:41 AM
Watching the world cup in summer is just fucking WOW!! Looking forward to this. It's a good opening game and loads to come. Start jotting down your transfer targets all you ITKs. Silly season's about to take on a different dimension.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Silas on June 13, 2014, 03:59:04 AM
Luiz gustavo looks like magnums mate, can't remember his name

Strawberry mivvy?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 13, 2014, 03:59:29 AM
Luiz gustavo looks like magnums mate, can't remember his name

higgins, or tc?  :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ell Capitan on June 13, 2014, 04:00:37 AM
Roberto in 'criticism of a team for not retaining possession well enough' shocker.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tinga on June 13, 2014, 04:03:46 AM
ITV choosing to update their player now is beyond ridiculous.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Simon Paul on June 13, 2014, 04:04:30 AM

ITV choosing to update their player now is beyond ridiculous.

Is that what it was??

Had to move to the bedroom halfway through the first half!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: jongre123 on June 13, 2014, 04:12:15 AM
Oscar is all over here, he is playing superbly.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 13, 2014, 04:14:19 AM
higgins, or tc?  :)
higgins
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: B3rry on June 13, 2014, 04:15:00 AM
Tempo slow down little .. some best moments of the game cricfree (http://cricfree.co/) ..but crucial moments was affected by reff
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 13, 2014, 04:19:34 AM
Yep been really impressed with Oscar playing in a relatively unfamiliar position. Hulk on the other hand has been completely anonymous so far. And is Fred definitely playing?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ell Capitan on June 13, 2014, 04:20:21 AM
Jelavic is getting a fair amount of shit from his teammates out there.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: stirlingblue on June 13, 2014, 04:20:28 AM
Perisic looks really good, can we buy him please?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: jongre123 on June 13, 2014, 04:25:30 AM
He must have rolled about 25 times then.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tinga on June 13, 2014, 04:27:06 AM
The biggest thing I've been impressed by so far is the referees little spray can thing.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 13, 2014, 04:29:26 AM
Softer than soft
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 13, 2014, 04:29:38 AM
cheap pen for me.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: jongre123 on June 13, 2014, 04:29:43 AM
He'll miss this.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 13, 2014, 04:30:05 AM
That was always coming. This red has given Brazil everything.

Fucking disgrace that
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tinga on June 13, 2014, 04:30:13 AM
Brilliant, hope he scores it!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 13, 2014, 04:30:19 AM
The biggest thing I've been impressed by so far is the referees little spray can thing.

Be using it the CL next season. No word of the PL adopting it though, why not? Seems they'd rather have walls 6 yards away than help the refs enforce the laws of the game.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 13, 2014, 04:30:20 AM
fuck off ref you twat
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ell Capitan on June 13, 2014, 04:30:32 AM
Soft but was no need to put his hands on him there either.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 13, 2014, 04:30:52 AM
oooh..almost justice.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: jongre123 on June 13, 2014, 04:31:01 AM
Bollocks.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tinga on June 13, 2014, 04:31:13 AM
 :cheers: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 13, 2014, 04:31:13 AM
Great for brazil but awful reffing
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 13, 2014, 04:31:50 AM
I really want Croatia to equalise now.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 13, 2014, 04:32:31 AM
Soft but was no need to put his hands on him there either.

It's a contact sport. He has every right to compete for the ball
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 13, 2014, 04:33:28 AM
Couldn't wait to give it.

Make sure brazil do well to quell any potential anti WC protests? Would you put it past fifa?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 13, 2014, 04:33:55 AM
always seems to happen though. home bias. crap deal for the croats.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 13, 2014, 04:34:02 AM
I really want Croatia to equalise now.

me too, i feel its ruined the game, why do refs always want the fucking limelight!?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 13, 2014, 04:34:34 AM
Joke of a decision.

So we have goal line technology and spray paint for the refs...maybe video replays will come in one day but only when the likes of Brazil are on the end of that sort of decision.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Silas on June 13, 2014, 04:34:38 AM
Terrible decision, was a great contest.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Redartin on June 13, 2014, 04:36:01 AM
Does anyone think they are watching possible world champions in this match?

I don't.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tinga on June 13, 2014, 04:36:46 AM
I think I'm the only person on here whose very happy right now  ;D
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 13, 2014, 04:37:18 AM
Does anyone think they are watching possible world champions in this match?

I don't.

Bit early to say that. You have to consider the insane pressure of this game, and conceding an OG early on, as well as Croatia being a very good team.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 13, 2014, 04:37:40 AM
Does anyone think they are watching possible world champions in this match?

I don't.

nor me, but the refs might have different ideas.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 13, 2014, 04:38:33 AM
Does anyone think they are watching possible world champions in this match?

I don't.

Spain lost to Switzerland in their opening game in 2010
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bob Sacamano on June 13, 2014, 04:39:26 AM
sad scenes in Sao Paulo there with the riot police out in full force

(http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/craigeverton/QrvZmma_zps48799ed0.gif) (http://s802.photobucket.com/user/craigeverton/media/QrvZmma_zps48799ed0.gif.html)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 13, 2014, 04:41:01 AM
(http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/craigeverton/QrvZmma_zps48799ed0.gif) (http://s802.photobucket.com/user/craigeverton/media/QrvZmma_zps48799ed0.gif.html)

saw that earlier. the guy was already tear-gassed, but the cunt had to use his spray as well. bastard.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 13, 2014, 04:43:05 AM
fuck. come on croatia!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Redartin on June 13, 2014, 04:44:44 AM
Bit early to say that. You have to consider the insane pressure of this game, and conceding an OG early on, as well as Croatia being a very good team.

I just feel Croatia are really unlucky to be behind. Aside from Oscar and Neymar not many other Brazilians stand out. Hulk & Fred were non existent.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 13, 2014, 04:44:45 AM
It's been nice to see Rakitic more influential in the opposing half as the game's gone on. His diagonal balls out to Perisic have been sexual.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 13, 2014, 04:45:06 AM
Right, that does it for me.

This is South Korea all over again.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 13, 2014, 04:45:12 AM
Another nice refereeing decisions for Brazil there.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 13, 2014, 04:46:03 AM
Does anyone think they are watching possible world champions in this match?

I don't.

I do, there's every chance they bought every fucking referee like they bought this utter cockwomble.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 13, 2014, 04:50:03 AM
great game, spoilt by the referee. how often do we say that...
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: jongre123 on June 13, 2014, 04:51:00 AM
he deserves that.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 13, 2014, 04:51:01 AM
Best player on the pitch.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 13, 2014, 04:51:14 AM
i'm happy they scored again. makes it a bit easier to swallow.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ell Capitan on June 13, 2014, 04:51:47 AM
Jesus, what horrific keeping.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bob Sacamano on June 13, 2014, 04:51:57 AM
Laughable goalkeeping
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tinga on June 13, 2014, 04:51:59 AM
Quality!. First game right  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 13, 2014, 04:52:07 AM
Goalies had a weston here. Best I have ever seen Oz car play tho
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 13, 2014, 04:52:42 AM
Goalkeeper has had a shocker.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 13, 2014, 04:52:50 AM
great goal but ive gone off Brazil now due to that penalty
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 13, 2014, 04:53:20 AM
Keeper should have saved all 3. Bet clanger is all over that ;)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 13, 2014, 04:54:38 AM
i'm happy they scored again. makes it a bit easier to swallow.

Why?? They scored when Croatia were pushing forward for a late equalizer after Brazil were given a goal by the referee who also chalked off the equalizer Croatia already scored.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 13, 2014, 04:54:41 AM
This goal will gloss over nicely how Brazil cheated their way into the game.

Long gone are the days when they were a bunch of amazing magicians who did outrageous things with the ball. Now the only thing outrageous on the pitch is the referee.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Redartin on June 13, 2014, 04:55:55 AM
Never a 3-1 game. Croatia deserved a draw. Brazil not convincing aside from Oscar & Neymar.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 13, 2014, 04:55:59 AM
This goal will gloss over nicely how Brazil cheated their way into the game.

Long gone are the days when they were a bunch of amazing magicians who did outrageous things with the ball. Now the only thing outrageous on the pitch is the referee.
can you blame brazil for the ref mc?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tinga on June 13, 2014, 04:56:02 AM
I also have 3-1 in the sweeps, hopefully we're right!.

 :cheers: That's a nice head start in my sweep.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 13, 2014, 04:56:10 AM
So is every refereeing mistake a worldwide conspiracy? Howabout shit goalkeeping as the reason that Croatia lost?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 13, 2014, 04:56:40 AM
Neymar limping there.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 13, 2014, 04:57:22 AM
So is every refereeing mistake a worldwide conspiracy? Howabout shit goalkeeping as the reason that Croatia lost?
three piss poor errors. Sadly not sending off neymar and that pen will be what's discussed
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Craig_1878 on June 13, 2014, 04:58:36 AM
Bit shit that wasn't it? Croatia deserved at least a draw there.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on June 13, 2014, 04:59:31 AM
Oscar Man of the match, very impressive. Think Brazil look ripe for catching on the break, they don't retain possession as well as some Brazillian team's in the past and leave acre's of space behind their midfield.

...Barkley would have a field day ;)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: School of Science on June 13, 2014, 04:59:51 AM
Well we should not fear Brazil, Croatia were unlucky there. And so was I, I had Brazil down to win 2-1 in skysports super 6  ???
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 13, 2014, 05:00:07 AM
MC loves a good conspiracy theory, the bigger the bung the better as far as he's concerned.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 13, 2014, 05:00:33 AM
can you blame brazil for the ref mc?

That's a fair point. The pen was a dive but most strikers would've attempted it. Other than that, it's only Marcello who's an obnoxious dirty play-acting cunt.

It's just so bitterly disappointing to see that there's so little integrity left in the game. Of course I knew it anyway, but it still hurts when it's slapped in our faces time after time.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 13, 2014, 05:01:43 AM
Nessun dorma was a great theme tune for a world cup... This brazil brazil thing is gonna make me kill
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 13, 2014, 05:01:57 AM
Why?? They scored when Croatia were pushing forward for a late equalizer after Brazil were given a goal by the referee who also chalked off the equalizer Croatia already scored.

you're more or less agreeing with me...i think.

had it ended 2-1, the what ifs would have mattered more.

if you're not, then   :cheers:

(i've already had enough...)

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 13, 2014, 05:02:58 AM
So is every refereeing mistake a worldwide conspiracy? Howabout shit goalkeeping as the reason that Croatia lost?

There's no worldwide conspiracy here, just what happened in Argentina and South Korea. I can't wait for Qatar, that'll be fun.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 13, 2014, 05:03:04 AM


It's just so bitterly disappointing to see that there's so little integrity left in the game. Of course I knew it anyway, but it still hurts when it's slapped in our faces time after time.
totally agree mc. It's what's leading fans away from the game.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 13, 2014, 05:03:16 AM
Jesus, even the Brazilians are trying to shoot Adrian Chiles.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: School of Science on June 13, 2014, 05:03:55 AM
Suarez will be chomping at the bit after seeing that penalty for Brazil there.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on June 13, 2014, 05:04:01 AM
Well 1 down, 63 to go :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 13, 2014, 05:04:21 AM
Jesus, even the Brazilians are trying to shoot Adrian Chiles.
I tweeted paddy power today to ask for a price on chiles being assasinated during the world cup. They wouldn't comment
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 13, 2014, 05:04:44 AM
That's a fair point. The pen was a dive but most strikers would've attempted it. Other than that, it's only Marcello who's an obnoxious dirty play-acting cunt.

It's just so bitterly disappointing to see that there's so little integrity left in the game. Of course I knew it anyway, but it still hurts when it's slapped in our faces time after time.

Don't scientists and mathematicians normally need a bigger sample size than 1 to make such hypotheses?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 13, 2014, 05:05:02 AM
I can't wait for Qatar, that'll be fun.

That'll be cancelled.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 13, 2014, 05:06:03 AM
That'll be cancelled.

we hope.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 13, 2014, 05:08:22 AM
Don't scientists and mathematicians normally need a bigger sample size than 1 to make such hypotheses?

Of what? That FIFA is corrupt to the core? That a hotbed of corruption like Brazil can easily buy referees? Or possibly don't even need to buy them, because well, it all stays in the FIFA family.

Or do you doubt that this kind of thing happens in general? 2002 and 1978 are two examples where it was proven beyond any doubt.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ridge on June 13, 2014, 05:09:28 AM
I really enjoyed that, I can overlook the dodgy decisions on this occasion.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 13, 2014, 05:10:49 AM
I really enjoyed that, I can overlook the dodgy decisions on this occasion.
comfortably better than sa.... No fuzzy zoellers to start
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 13, 2014, 05:11:04 AM
Of what? That FIFA is corrupt to the core? That a hotbed of corruption like Brazil can easily buy referees? Or possibly don't even need to buy them, because well, it all stays in the FIFA family.

Or do you doubt that this kind of thing happens in general? 2002 and 1978 are two examples where it was proven beyond any doubt.


I agree on South Korea. I think it would be hard to disagree. And of course FIFA are corrupt in general. But I would need to see more evidence of Brazil getting those types of decisions in this tournament to subscribe (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;area=subscriptions) to your theory.

Unfortunately, those cheap penalties are given every week in every league in the world. It doesn't mean it's not corrupt, but for me anyway, it doesn't prove that it's corrupt either.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 13, 2014, 05:12:48 AM
I agree on South Korea. I think it would be hard to disagree. And of course FIFA are corrupt in general. But I would need to see more evidence of Brazil getting those types of decisions in this tournament to subscribe (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;area=subscriptions) to your theory.

Unfortunately, those cheap penalties are given every week in every league in the world. It doesn't mean it's not corrupt, but for me anyway, it doesn't prove that it's corrupt either.

Obviously it's the heat of the game speaking and the shattering of hope beyond hope that this World Cup was going to be different, more fair.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Redartin on June 13, 2014, 05:13:40 AM
Suarez will be chomping at the bit after seeing that penalty for Brazil there.

England should have taken Tom Daley with them.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 13, 2014, 05:17:01 AM
Obviously it's the heat of the game speaking and the shattering of hope beyond hope that this World Cup was going to be different, more fair.

What I would say to that is give the tournament a chance, and stop being a curmudgeonly, miserable fucker until there is clear evidence supporting your corruption theory.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 13, 2014, 05:20:19 AM
Just had to google curmudgeonly and definitely going to try and call my dad it during the England game on Saturday :smug:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 13, 2014, 05:22:48 AM
Of what? That FIFA is corrupt to the core? That a hotbed of corruption like Brazil can easily buy referees? Or possibly don't even need to buy them, because well, it all stays in the FIFA family.

Or do you doubt that this kind of thing happens in general? 2002 and 1978 are two examples where it was proven beyond any doubt.


Calm down, love.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 13, 2014, 05:26:03 AM
Can you give us an example of when this corruption in 2002 was 'proven'? Because it's the first I've heard of it
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: cantoffee on June 13, 2014, 05:27:26 AM
BD gets a like just for the use of curmudgeonly.

I think this tournament is going to be great, sure the referee made some poor decisions but I think Brazil were still the better team overall. Croatian keeper is fucking pants as well which doesn't help.

Plus I have Brazil in the cash sweeps!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 13, 2014, 05:32:41 AM
England should have taken Tom Daley with them.

Why? Is jack Wilshire not camp enough? ;)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 13, 2014, 05:33:00 AM
Can you give us an example of when this corruption in 2002 was 'proven'? Because it's the first I've heard of it

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2002/sep/11/newsstory.sport2 (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2002/sep/11/newsstory.sport2)

Another referee was suspended afterwards too.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: ally2 on June 13, 2014, 05:36:48 AM

Can you give us an example of when this corruption in 2002 was 'proven'? Because it's the first I've heard of it

I like to think scientifically but Italy vs South Korea is one of those times when n=1 suffices.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: ally2 on June 13, 2014, 05:37:27 AM
Shite game. Brazil are fucking boring
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Redartin on June 13, 2014, 06:14:43 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27827271 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27827271)

First pissed off manager of the tournament.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 13, 2014, 06:24:20 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27827271 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27827271)

First pissed off manager of the tournament.

I thought those were great comments to be fair. I've no problem with managers having a pop when it's deserved.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: DannyR on June 13, 2014, 06:49:49 AM
Glen Hoddles camel toe
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 13, 2014, 07:15:57 AM
What needs to happen is serious f-cking consequences for diving of this magnitude.  Suspend the bastard for the duration of the tournament (or 3 games in the Prem), and you'll see less diving.

It's either that, or you have to start having video replay, which would sap the flow out of the game.  But you simply cannot go on this way, it ruins the game.  Might as well be professional wrestling, or the NBA.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cuttyblue on June 13, 2014, 07:45:23 AM
Was a good game, since most wc
Matches end with 1 goal :/

Croatia was robbed of a point, horrific ref performance. Still excited for the rest of the tournament.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 13, 2014, 09:00:32 AM
Just listening to an interview with some of the England camp before the Italy game. Sturridge was asked what he's been doing in his down time to keep himself occupied in Brazil. He said quite seriously 'I think I might learn Spanish'......
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 13, 2014, 09:53:07 AM
Was a good game.....well the £40 I had set aside for buying a football shirt I ended up putting a tenner on Brazil to win 3-1 at 15/1 and a fiver on Neymar to be top scorer at 10/1 with the intention of buying the Costa Rica shirt online with the remaining £25. Now I have £150 worth of winnings in the bank with the potential of another £50 should Neymar be top scorer, plus the £200 from when Honduras win the whole thing!Can buy any shirt I like now!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: GLewis on June 13, 2014, 01:29:43 PM
What needs to happen is serious f-cking consequences for diving of this magnitude.  Suspend the bastard for the duration of the tournament (or 3 games in the Prem), and you'll see less diving.

It's either that, or you have to start having video replay, which would sap the flow out of the game.  But you simply cannot go on this way, it ruins the game.  Might as well be professional wrestling, or the NBA.

Or the ref just doesn't give the penalty that no-one else would have given?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: GLewis on June 13, 2014, 01:32:28 PM
Good game overall I thought though.

Looks like all the games in this group could be quite good.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on June 13, 2014, 01:49:11 PM
(http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/craigeverton/QrvZmma_zps48799ed0.gif) (http://s802.photobucket.com/user/craigeverton/media/QrvZmma_zps48799ed0.gif.html)

Looks like FIFA gave everyone a spray can thingy
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on June 13, 2014, 01:51:04 PM
Oh and how shot were Brazil. Was like watching a Southampton team. All possession and very little going forward. Not impressed at all
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: GLewis on June 13, 2014, 01:53:56 PM
Oh and how shot were Brazil. Was like watching a Southampton team. All possession and very little going forward. Not impressed at all

Thought the pressure had really taken its toll early on in terms of them tightening up physically.

I thought it might be the pitch but Croatia were buzzing round and their passes were much crisper so it couldn't have been that.

I'm expecting more fluid performances now that game is out of the way with a win.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on June 13, 2014, 02:05:19 PM
Thought the pressure had really taken its toll early on in terms of them tightening up physically.

I thought it might be the pitch but Croatia were buzzing round and their passes were much crisper so it couldn't have been that.

I'm expecting more fluid performances now that game is out of the way with a win.

I don't think they have great players and their defending I shoddy at best. Their goalkeeper is very weak and I don't see the fuss about Paulinho. Ramirez is better. Besides Oscar and Neymar, Hulk and Fred are not up to much. Marcello's over rated going forward. I jut don't see the hype with them and I don't think they have what it takes to win it. A team with a solid defence is goin to win it. I actually think England have a shot at winning this thing.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 13, 2014, 03:04:22 PM
Brazil did the job, thought it was a really engrossing game, still expect Brazil to improve.  That was obviously a below par performance but they did the job. Plenty of teams who win it tend to start slowly and come into form as the tournament progresses.

Impressed by Croatia, think they will go through as runners up in the group. Perisic had a good game. Olic looks so old!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 13, 2014, 04:48:33 PM
Meanwhile in Manaus...organisers are spray-painting the pitch green to cover up the botch job they made of it.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 13, 2014, 04:57:38 PM
What needs to happen is serious f-cking consequences for diving of this magnitude.  Suspend the bastard for the duration of the tournament (or 3 games in the Prem), and you'll see less diving.

It's either that, or you have to start having video replay, which would sap the flow out of the game.  But you simply cannot go on this way, it ruins the game.  Might as well be professional wrestling, or the NBA.

I've been a big advocate of players wearing paper shirts for a while now, no tear no foul. Quicker and easier than video refs.

Soon put a stop to this sort of diving or shirt pulling.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 13, 2014, 05:37:13 PM
I've been a big advocate of players wearing paper shirts for a while now, no tear no foul. Quicker and easier than video refs.

Soon put a stop to this sort of diving or shirt pulling.

Would get through a lot of shirts though.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 13, 2014, 05:39:25 PM
Would get through a lot of shirts though.

Ah the beauty is their recyclable!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 13, 2014, 05:43:28 PM
Cant wait, three games today! And England tomorrow!!! :D
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 13, 2014, 05:45:46 PM
Spain v Holland's not bad for a second day game eh? Fucking hell! And be great to see Chile beat the Aussies later on, not forgetting my beloved Mexico for the early kick off.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 13, 2014, 05:46:24 PM
Wouldnt they rip thru sweat tho sam
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 13, 2014, 05:47:33 PM
Really looking forward to Spain - Netherlands later as if the gossip columns are to be believed we're looking at half the latter's squad. Will be interesting to see Bruno Martins Indi and de Vrij in action, as well as others like Clasie.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 13, 2014, 05:50:13 PM
Spain v Holland's not bad for a second day game eh? Fucking hell! And be great to see Chile beat the Aussies later on, not forgetting my beloved Mexico for the early kick off.

Proper cant wait for Spain v Holland

Shit we are against each other then hahah come on camerooooooon :)

Why do you want chile to beat cahill??
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 13, 2014, 05:54:00 PM
Wouldnt they rip thru sweat tho sam

No they'd be like grease proof chippy paper Jim.

I expect it would bring in more fans from the gay and lady communities as well.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 13, 2014, 05:54:17 PM
Proper cant wait for Spain v Holland

Shit we are against each other then hahah come on camerooooooon :)

Why do you want chile to beat cahill??

Haha. Just cos Chile are a hipster's choice, now that Belgium are yesterday's news.

Nah, I really like the way Chile play and their manager, no slight on the Aussies. Shame Vidal won't be playing tonight, but still plenty to like. They took the piss out of England, and completely dominated Germany earlier in the year.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 13, 2014, 05:56:08 PM
Im still a Belgium fan so im not a hipster anymore yay :)

OH SHIT no Vidal? He is in my fantasy team :(
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: VBlue on June 13, 2014, 05:56:47 PM
Neymar foul on Modric.  Happy with a booking?  Initial reaction was red card from me. 
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 13, 2014, 06:02:54 PM
Neymar foul on Modric.  Happy with a booking?  Initial reaction was red card from me. 

In many cases it would've been a red. But so early on in a big game they're rarely given.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 13, 2014, 06:04:12 PM
Haha. Just cos Chile are a hipster's choice, now that Belgium are yesterday's news.

Nah, I really like the way Chile play and their manager, no slight on the Aussies. Shame Vidal won't be playing tonight, but still plenty to like. They took the piss out of England, and completely dominated Germany earlier in the year.

What's the Vidal injury news?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 13, 2014, 06:05:39 PM
No they'd be like grease proof chippy paper Jim.

I expect it would bring in more fans from the gay and lady communities as well.
Ah i get ya, put some real thought into this havent you :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 13, 2014, 06:05:59 PM
What's the Vidal injury news?

It was a day or two ago, so it might've changed, but the S. American journalist I was listening to was saying he would probably miss the first game, because it was a risk to play him and potentially it's their easiest game.

Might've changed though.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sprooly on June 13, 2014, 06:15:25 PM
been a little bit of optimism that we can beat Chile in the media the last few days, (typical Aussie mentality), looking at our squad, the inexperience and the issue with players being just genuinely crap, (watch out for Franjic at right back, woeful player) if we can escape with 3 losses and a goal difference of -5, i dont think we have had too bad of a tournament.

The other night they showed a doco on our 06 world cup campaign, what a team that was, its sad that the national team has regressed so badly in 8 years

A couple of players too look out for from the Socceroos in this tournament, Mark Milligan who will play next to Jedinak in the middle, Jason Davidson who is a promising left back and our keeper Mat Ryan whose been linked with Real Madrid last week
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 13, 2014, 06:15:38 PM
It was a day or two ago, so it might've changed, but the S. American journalist I was listening to was saying he would probably miss the first game, because it was a risk to play him and potentially it's their easiest game.

Might've changed though.

Cheers. Hopefully it is just the first game he misses. Like Reus he as one of the players I was looking forward to seeing most.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 13, 2014, 06:16:15 PM
The Onion, on FIFA's perception.  Hee hee:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/winner-of-world-cup-hammered-out-just-in-time-for,36264/ (http://www.theonion.com/articles/winner-of-world-cup-hammered-out-just-in-time-for,36264/)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 13, 2014, 06:16:57 PM
The Onion, on FIFA's perception.  Hee hee:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/winner-of-world-cup-hammered-out-just-in-time-for,36264/ (http://www.theonion.com/articles/winner-of-world-cup-hammered-out-just-in-time-for,36264/)

I am definitely looking forward to a more robust slate of 3 games today, then 4 tomorrow!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 13, 2014, 06:22:40 PM
been a little bit of optimism that we can beat Chile in the media the last few days, (typical Aussie mentality), looking at our squad, the inexperience and the issue with players being just genuinely crap, (watch out for Franjic at right back, woeful player) if we can escape with 3 losses and a goal difference of -5, i dont think we have had too bad of a tournament.

The other night they showed a doco on our 06 world cup campaign, what a team that was, its sad that the national team has regressed so badly in 8 years

A couple of players too look out for from the Socceroos in this tournament, Mark Milligan who will play next to Jedinak in the middle, Jason Davidson who is a promising left back and our keeper Mat Ryan whose been linked with Real Madrid last week

I don't know much about the current Aussie team, but the stuff I've seen suggests that you're trying to build a new group of players for the future now that the previous generation are older and have mostly left the team. Is it fair to say you are building for the future and so expectations are relatively low for this tournament generally?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sprooly on June 13, 2014, 06:35:52 PM
I don't know much about the current Aussie team, but the stuff I've seen suggests that you're trying to build a new group of players for the future now that the previous generation are older and have mostly left the team. Is it fair to say you are building for the future and so expectations are relatively low for this tournament generally?

We are re-building, but we are missing some key players through injuries (Williams from Boro, Kruse from Leverskusen and Josh Kennendy) which has lowered expectations a little, our group is ridiculously tough unfortunately,

we will be lucky to score a goal

We are hosting the Asian Cup in Jan so the expectations are making the final at least in that tournament, so we are trying to build a first 11 for that tournie 

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 13, 2014, 06:48:04 PM
Holy shit, January 2015?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 13, 2014, 06:54:07 PM
This is the beauty of NSNO, learning that Chile is the hipster team.  Will have to share that with my drinking buddy from university (he's Chilean).

Despite my tastes in music/TV, I thankfully can't be a hipster because of my lack of fashion sense and failure to own a single ironic T-shirt or trucker hat.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueski on June 13, 2014, 08:19:48 PM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/12/article-0-1EB4D3B500000578-963_470x700.jpg)
enjoy this one, the sights are better than they will be in Qatar
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 13, 2014, 10:38:41 PM
Let's hope the shit weather brings some chaotic action in the opener today.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 13, 2014, 10:42:21 PM
Although they're talking about England - Italy when it's not for another 48 hours or so, ITV's punditry prior to this Cameroon game has been surprisingly impressive with Hoddle, Vieira and Cannavaro. Even Chiles is reigning in the bloke-in-a-jumper charm and just talking about football.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 13, 2014, 10:43:58 PM
No Roberto on ESPN so far today, so I has the sads.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 13, 2014, 10:45:25 PM
come on cameroon my babies :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 13, 2014, 10:46:10 PM
come on cameroon my babies :)

Going down bitch!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 13, 2014, 10:47:21 PM
Although they're talking about England - Italy when it's not for another 48 hours or so, ITV's punditry prior to this Cameroon game has been surprisingly impressive with Hoddle, Vieira and Cannavaro. Even Chiles is reigning in the bloke-in-a-jumper charm and just talking about football.

Credit where credit is due, it took a full 23 minutes of last nights game before they mentioned Lampard's disallowed goal in South Africa.  :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 13, 2014, 10:48:42 PM
No Roberto on ESPN so far today, so I has the sads.
in the Spanish camp getting Xavi to sign
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 13, 2014, 10:51:18 PM
If you want to sample a World Cup Live Blog with some smart ass American NFL fans (other than just me):

http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2014/06/ksk-world-cup-open-thread-mexico-cameroon-spain-netherlands-chile-australia.html (http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2014/06/ksk-world-cup-open-thread-mexico-cameroon-spain-netherlands-chile-australia.html)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 13, 2014, 10:56:39 PM
if nothing else, it should at least be an open game...i hope.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 13, 2014, 10:58:01 PM
Loved the Mexicans being so passionate about their national anthem..

until the cameras on them and then vanity kicks in!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 13, 2014, 10:58:09 PM
Close national anthem battle there. Liked both.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 13, 2014, 11:00:34 PM
Close national anthem battle there. Liked both.

That's how games should be decided if all is level after 120 mins.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 13, 2014, 11:09:07 PM
That's how games should be decided if all is level after 120 mins.

Dance off.  But I'm biased, given how I generally root for the African sides.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 13, 2014, 11:13:07 PM
Wow, pretty shit luck there.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 13, 2014, 11:14:12 PM
My Mexican lads are swarming all over the sloppy Cameroonians here, and were robbed of a lovely goal there.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on June 13, 2014, 11:18:12 PM
Never offside. Biased refereeing to the South Americans
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 13, 2014, 11:34:57 PM
oh dear @Bluedylan (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3747) you should be 2 up!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 13, 2014, 11:43:02 PM
Clark is fucking obsessed with Cameroons 'back 6' jesus christ. This commentary is worse than last night.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 13, 2014, 11:48:45 PM
Cameroon look badly shite. Clark Carlisle's got it right. If they leave their wingers up then Mexico will have to pull their wing backs deeper. Instead they've thrown away their natural advantage in the wide areas by being too reactive.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 13, 2014, 11:52:20 PM
we haven't seen the winners today...
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 13, 2014, 11:55:50 PM
Clark Carlisle over emphasis on every sentence is so fucking annoying, he's so desperate to be relevant it's embarrassing
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 12:11:23 AM
The Cameroon players look like they've met for the first time just before kick off.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 14, 2014, 12:16:26 AM
Boss game this  :eh:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 12:22:53 AM
Cameroon are fucking awful, but that was a lovely goal.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 14, 2014, 12:59:34 AM
Well i hate Cameroon more now, diving twats, think ill just pretend i havent got them in the fun sweep and concentrate on France.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: macko on June 14, 2014, 01:06:32 AM
oh dear @Bluedylan (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3747) you should be 2 up!
Is that an offer?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 14, 2014, 01:06:48 AM
that was a bit meh. who's next?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 14, 2014, 01:08:11 AM
Loved the way ITV tries to whip up controversy out of two fairly difficult decisions, which ultimately didn't cost Mexico the game.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 14, 2014, 01:11:50 AM
Is that an offer?

:o
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 14, 2014, 01:12:21 AM
Loved the way ITV tries to whip up controversy out of two fairly difficult decisions, which ultimately didn't cost Mexico the game.

Yes he got them wrong but they weren't easy, as you say. I'd rather they made more of a meal out of the cheating bastard players.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on June 14, 2014, 01:15:03 AM
Meanwhile in Manaus...organisers are spray-painting the pitch green to cover up the botch job they made of it.

Like I said, everyone is getting a spray can. You should get one too MC. Axe, the ladies love it
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on June 14, 2014, 01:15:35 AM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/12/article-0-1EB4D3B500000578-963_470x700.jpg)
enjoy this one, the sights are better than they will be in Qatar

How do you know Amelia?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 14, 2014, 01:15:49 AM
Rafa Marquez was boss. Great distribution from the back.

Thought Mexico were good to watch. Their game against Croatia should be a good one.

Cameroon look clueless and will be lucky to get one point. If you're 433 against a 352, your most important weapons are your wingers. Instead of attacking with them, they defended with them. Really bizarre.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 14, 2014, 01:23:39 AM
Cameroon used to be fun to watch, at least.  What happened to those guys?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 14, 2014, 01:24:39 AM
Time for Spain!  Motherland of our dear Roberto, and my hopes of 200 pounds sterling.  Huzzah!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 01:26:42 AM
Starting with Diego Costa, rather than Fabregas as a False 9 as some people were predicting. Should be interesting to see a different 4-3-3 go up a different 5-3-2.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on June 14, 2014, 01:28:10 AM
Starting with Diego Costa, rather than Fabregas as a False 9 as some people were predicting. Should be interesting to see a different 4-3-3 go up a different 5-3-2.

You not saying Diego Costa is a false umber 9 are you?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tinga on June 14, 2014, 01:31:00 AM
Is that an offer?

 :snigger:

It wasn't a great game but it had its moments that's for sure, hoping the Spain, Holland game is scorcher too!.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 01:31:04 AM
You not saying Diego Costa is a false umber 9 are you?

Nope.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 14, 2014, 01:31:19 AM
Starting with Diego Costa, rather than Fabregas as a False 9 as some people were predicting. Should be interesting to see a different 4-3-3 go up a different 5-3-2.

The problem with the Netherlands' 5-3-2 is that Ron Vlaar is part of the 5.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 01:34:56 AM
The problem with the Netherlands' 5-3-2 is that Ron Vlaar is part of the 5.

True. Hopefully De Vrij can nurse him through the game, before his big summer move to Goodison. Martins Indi at LWB also looks a bit concerning.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 14, 2014, 01:36:36 AM
True. Hopefully De Vrij can nurse him through the game, before his big summer move to Goodison. Martins Indi at LWB also looks a bit concerning.

Isn't it Daley Blind with BMI at LCB?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: cantoffee on June 14, 2014, 01:36:46 AM
The problem with the Netherlands' 5-3-2 is that Ron Vlaar is part of the 5.

He is atrocious.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Silas on June 14, 2014, 01:43:35 AM
Even Johnny Heitinga is wondering how the fuck he didn't get in ahead of Vlaar
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 01:47:27 AM
Isn't it Daley Blind with BMI at LCB?

He is. Was mistakenly looking at the projected lineup.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 14, 2014, 01:52:36 AM
How do you know Amelia?

You'd never forget a pair of personalities she's got
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 14, 2014, 01:55:50 AM
thought kick off was 9pm, this has made my fucking night :D

who we all hoping to win?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 01:55:51 AM
The ITV pundits (Chiles aside) have been much better so far for me. Cannavaro, Vieira and Hoddle is actually a decent combination. Henry's been sold up the river on BBC, getting put with Shearer and Ferdinand.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 14, 2014, 01:56:37 AM
Fuck sake Lawrenson commentating?? Kill me.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 14, 2014, 01:58:31 AM
nil points for the dutch anthem   shakeyheadman
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on June 14, 2014, 01:59:50 AM
You'd never forget a pair of personalities she's got

Sweet girl, good friend of my sister
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 14, 2014, 02:00:35 AM
i see that dirty lucky bastard pique is starting   :hmph:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 14, 2014, 02:00:44 AM
Ferdinand is an atrocious pundit. He sounded like he was reading off a script before.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 14, 2014, 02:02:03 AM
strange kit colours
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Redartin on June 14, 2014, 02:02:16 AM
Plenty of empty seats in the stands.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 14, 2014, 02:04:24 AM
strange kit colours

yeah. seems strange seeing neither orange nor red. wonder what that's about...
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ridge on June 14, 2014, 02:11:41 AM
Fuck off Sneijder.  >:(
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 14, 2014, 02:13:24 AM
The booing of Costa is strangely amusing.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ridge on June 14, 2014, 02:13:46 AM
yeah. seems strange seeing neither orange nor red. wonder what that's about...

I'd guess that of the kits, these 2 clash the least. Orange and Red isn't too bad, but maybe they decided this was better.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 14, 2014, 02:15:45 AM
I even wore red for Spain, FFS
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 14, 2014, 02:17:20 AM
I'd guess that of the kits, these 2 clash the least. Orange and Red isn't too bad, but maybe they decided this was better.

yeah, it's no biggy, but i thought it usual for only one side to change in case of any possible clash.

btw, have you got holland in the sweep/money on them by any chance :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 14, 2014, 02:18:01 AM
I'd guess that of the kits, these 2 clash the least. Orange and Red isn't too bad, but maybe they decided this was better.

Yeah but why could one wear the normal shirt and the other the 2nd kit? Seems strange they both wear the second kit.

Anyway, think i want Holland to win.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 14, 2014, 02:18:01 AM
Sweet girl, good friend of my sister

You're sister do breast enhancements Doc
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Redartin on June 14, 2014, 02:18:20 AM
I am watching this on RTE and the commentary is about one second ahead of the picture :eh:

Either that or the commentator is a clairvoyant.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ridge on June 14, 2014, 02:18:57 AM
yeah, it's no biggy, but i thought it usual for only one side to change in case of any possible clash.

btw, have you got holland in the sweep/money on them by any chance :)

Nope, but I have backed them to win both the game and World Cup.

And Sneijder for first goalscorer.... and the Golden Boot...
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 14, 2014, 02:21:06 AM
I don't mind lawro on commentary...atleast he speaks his mind and says it how it is unlike Andy 'I think' Townsend. He's still a tit though.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ridge on June 14, 2014, 02:21:51 AM
Yeah but why could one wear the normal shirt and the other the 2nd kit? Seems strange they both wear the second kit.

Anyway, think i want Holland to win.

I think both away kits clash more with the home kit more than the other away kit. Is a bit weird though...
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 14, 2014, 02:24:18 AM
You're sister do breast enhancements Doc

don't even go there. you seem like a good man just as you are :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 14, 2014, 02:27:20 AM
Did he step over that and dive?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 14, 2014, 02:28:20 AM
Did he step over that and dive?

i thought he left his trailing foot on purpose, but hey, they're spanish speakers...
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 02:28:38 AM
He placed his foot on the defenders trailing leg. 2nd dodgy pen in 3 games.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 14, 2014, 02:29:18 AM
dive for me that was but can see why it was given
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 14, 2014, 02:29:29 AM
It's down as clever but is it cheating?  Anyway, good pen by alonso
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 14, 2014, 02:30:39 AM
Not a pen.

This World Cup (so far) has been a poster child for those who want the video replay option.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Simon Paul on June 14, 2014, 02:31:53 AM
looked clear penalty in real time but not on the replays by any stretch

I wish Lawrenson would shut up the luddite
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 14, 2014, 02:32:23 AM
Deffo a goal lads...they've shown the goal line technology replay.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 14, 2014, 02:32:34 AM
These goal line replays are ridiculous after every goal.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 14, 2014, 02:33:26 AM
looked clear penalty in real time but not on the replays by any stretch

I wish Lawrenson would shut up the luddite
tempted to put Scott mills on... That's how annoying he is
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ridge on June 14, 2014, 02:35:29 AM
It was subtle enough that it won't cause too much drama.

But there has been some appalling refereeing so far in this tournament.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on June 14, 2014, 02:36:14 AM
You're sister do breast enhancements Doc

No, just a friend of that chc in the pic
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 14, 2014, 02:39:16 AM
http://youtu.be/BQBSxDQcKK0 (http://youtu.be/BQBSxDQcKK0)

Has to be the funniest bit of commentary I've ever heard.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 02:39:51 AM
But there has been some appalling refereeing so far in this tournament.

No worse than the Premier League every week, or other leagues for that matter.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 14, 2014, 02:41:26 AM
Maybe if they can't correctly decide a penalty (and you don't want video replays) then scrap penalty kicks. Give a free kick in the box same as any other place and book/send off as needed.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ridge on June 14, 2014, 02:42:55 AM
No worse than the Premier League every week, or other leagues for that matter.

Couple of major decisions wrong each game, I think PL and other leagues are better than that.

It still happens, but so far they have got 2 major decisions wrong each game, but also against the same team.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 02:44:10 AM
Couple of major decisions wrong each game, I think PL and other leagues are better than that.

It still happens, but so far they have got 2 major decisions wrong each game, but also against the same team.

The ref in today's Mexico game was generally really good, and let the game flow when there was playacting most of the time. It was the linesman who got the goal decisions wrong, and they were both incredibly difficult decisions.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ridge on June 14, 2014, 02:44:36 AM
Awesome
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 02:44:42 AM
Van persie
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 14, 2014, 02:45:13 AM
yesssssss
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 02:45:32 AM
Come on you Dutch. Beat these diving cheats!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 14, 2014, 02:45:32 AM
Get in...come on costa you cunt!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Simon Paul on June 14, 2014, 02:45:52 AM
what an incredible goal!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 14, 2014, 02:46:21 AM
Fantastic header.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Amata on June 14, 2014, 02:46:27 AM
Penalty was another shocking decision, however in real time it looked stone wall.  Replays show Costa was very clever bringing his leg down on the defender

Van Persie goal was superb and we may have already seen pass of the tournament by Iniesta! Can't say its boring anyway.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bob Sacamano on June 14, 2014, 02:46:53 AM
Wow
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 14, 2014, 02:47:09 AM
 
http://youtu.be/BQBSxDQcKK0 (http://youtu.be/BQBSxDQcKK0)

Has to be the funniest bit of commentary I've ever heard.

 lolol

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 14, 2014, 02:49:10 AM
RVP showing his class
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 14, 2014, 02:49:36 AM
fuck! what's happening? have holland scored? i lost the flip of a coin and coronation fucking street is currently on!

why am i so fucking reasonable!!    :headbang:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 14, 2014, 02:50:00 AM
Give the man a fish, that was a stunning goal.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Redartin on June 14, 2014, 02:50:06 AM
I am watching this on RTE and the commentary is about one second ahead of the picture :eh:

Either that or the commentator is a clairvoyant.

This just got worse as the match went on.

Spoiler alert:

Spain won 3-1, Holland went to bits after de Vrji got sent off mid way through the 2nd half.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tinga on June 14, 2014, 02:50:09 AM
What a great header, just need 1 goal from either side now and I'm set :P
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 14, 2014, 02:50:17 AM
Don't get the Holland back three. Martins Indi keeps stepping way, way out and almost man-marking Silva and Blind comes across to cover, but when Silva heads off he drops back in. Bet Roberto was tugging himself silly at their training session trying to work that out.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on June 14, 2014, 02:50:48 AM
fuck! what's happening? have holland scored? i lost the flip of a coin and coronation fucking street is currently on!

why am i so fucking reasonable!!    :headbang:

Stream it you neanderthal
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 14, 2014, 02:52:44 AM
Stream it you neanderthal

lent the laptop to a friend whose tv is broken...

so yes, i am stupid.

(i must have used the wrong coin for the coin toss)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ridge on June 14, 2014, 02:53:08 AM
The ref in today's Mexico game was generally really good, and let the game flow when there was playacting most of the time. It was the linesman who got the goal decisions wrong, and they were both incredibly difficult decisions.

Yeah, I'd agree with that, but that is now 3 disallowed goals that should have stood and 2 penalties given that shouldn't. After 2 and a half games, that's a pretty poor record.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cuttyblue on June 14, 2014, 02:53:27 AM
Superb goal by rvp. But I did think it was a pen for Spain, wild lunge by the defender, contact, pen. Costa landed on his foot; if that was intentional than were all deceived.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 14, 2014, 02:54:19 AM
Seeing it again and Ramos loses RVP for the goal. He doesn't know where he is.

He's shite. When he can't rely on on physical intimidation to defend and has to rely on his reading of the game, he fucks up. Often. Most over-rated player in world football.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 14, 2014, 02:54:36 AM
Brilliant goal, only matched by the face plant after it.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 14, 2014, 02:54:56 AM
is alan shearer a bit disabled?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on June 14, 2014, 02:55:25 AM
Technically speaking that Spanish penalty was a genius dive, planting his foot on the trailing Dutch leg to drag it away. Sad state of affairs where you can rate the techinque in a dive.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 14, 2014, 02:55:48 AM
lent the laptop to a friend who's tv is broken...

so yes, i am stupid.

Whatever you're using to type right now, use it to watch the game :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 14, 2014, 02:56:07 AM
Brilliant goal, only matched by the face plant after it.

He was like a penguin jumping out the sea wasn't he!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 02:56:35 AM
Yeah, I'd agree with that, but that is now 3 disallowed goals that should have stood and 2 penalties given that shouldn't. After 2 and a half games, that's a pretty poor record.

Fair enough, it's not been great, but you can see why the Costa pen was given, the Croatia 'goal' always gets disallowed anytime someone touches a keeper, and split second offside decisions are wrong all the time.

I just get tired of making the tournament all about complaining about referees, rather than absolutely loving the football.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 14, 2014, 02:56:55 AM
He was like a penguin jumping out the sea wasn't he!
Billy the fish
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 14, 2014, 02:56:56 AM
Whatever you're using to type right now, use it to watch the game :)

can't locate on this machine, but am trying.

so old it must be steam powered.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 14, 2014, 02:59:01 AM
Seeing it again and Ramos loses RVP for the goal. He doesn't know where he is.

He's shite. When he can't rely on on physical intimidation to defend and has to rely on his reading of the game, he fucks up. Often. Most over-rated player in world football.

Barca and Real defenders generally can only deal with play going on in front of them. I think mainly because it's so rare that anyone gets behind them. There was another cross before the goal which Ramos almost put in his own net, and Schneijder's run was another example of them not being able to cope with runs behind.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 14, 2014, 02:59:06 AM
He was like a penguin jumping out the sea wasn't he!

The slomo they showed was brilliant, his nose touched down but never took his eye off the ball and all the time you could see his reaction was saying "oh you fucking beauty".
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Major Clanger on June 14, 2014, 03:01:28 AM
Superb goal by rvp. But I did think it was a pen for Spain, wild lunge by the defender, contact, pen. Costa landed on his foot; if that was intentional than were all deceived.

It was the sort of penalty that is covered by "the attacker's right to go down". It should never ever have been given but more often than not it is.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on June 14, 2014, 03:01:43 AM
Jusat realized that cbc.ca in Canada has free streaming of all the world cup games. Now I am watching at work and hgetting frthur behind. What a class header. v persie is brilliant
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on June 14, 2014, 03:02:45 AM
It was the sort of penalty that is covered by "the attacker's right to go down". It should never ever have been given but more often than not it is.

Heard Costa is a free mason
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 14, 2014, 03:06:53 AM
I love watching football played in a downpour :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 14, 2014, 03:08:17 AM
(http://s28.postimg.org/z9q9xez7h/image.jpg)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ridge on June 14, 2014, 03:09:56 AM
Get the fuck in.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 14, 2014, 03:10:01 AM
C'mon the dutchies !
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 03:10:09 AM
Yes!!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 14, 2014, 03:10:27 AM
get fucking in!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 14, 2014, 03:10:54 AM
Fuck me, so much for that good luck in the NSNO sweeps!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 03:11:07 AM
Was that Blind with another fantastic chipped through ball?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 14, 2014, 03:12:26 AM
Great game :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 03:12:46 AM
Martins Indi's eyes!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 14, 2014, 03:13:18 AM
Costa banned for the next couple of games?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 14, 2014, 03:13:33 AM
Pair of twats. Costa and Bruno.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 14, 2014, 03:13:40 AM
Costa will be entertaining in the PL next season. Should be off the little shithouse.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 14, 2014, 03:13:47 AM
Costa has been watching Pardew.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 14, 2014, 03:14:27 AM
Costa banned for the next couple of games?

Should be.  I'm not sure my financial incentives are worth cheering for such a cunt-heavy team.  With apparently the world's most racist fans.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 14, 2014, 03:14:36 AM
Spain are rattled big time. Can see holland getting a 3rd.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 14, 2014, 03:16:17 AM
Costa is actually Brazilian isn't he..... it figures.....
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 03:17:22 AM
Costa is actually Brazilian isn't he..... it figures.....

Cos there's no English players who are cunts.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 03:17:40 AM
Ooooh!!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 14, 2014, 03:18:46 AM
What a hit.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 14, 2014, 03:18:52 AM
Cos there's no English players who are cunts.

Errrrr?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 03:21:44 AM
Yes!!!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 14, 2014, 03:22:19 AM
woooooooO!!!!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 14, 2014, 03:22:27 AM
Roberto's dire warnings at halftime about Spain's performance?  Clairvoyant.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 14, 2014, 03:22:40 AM
I can see holland getting a 4th.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 14, 2014, 03:23:08 AM
Roberto's dire warnings at halftime about Spain's performance?  Clairvoyant.

Nah genius!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Simon Paul on June 14, 2014, 03:23:33 AM
oh my!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 03:25:56 AM
Roberto's not on SBS
:(
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Post by: Audrey Horne on June 14, 2014, 03:26:22 AM
This is a crazy good game :D
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Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 03:27:30 AM
Gotta give it to Van Gaal. This unlikely 5-3-2 is giving Spain all sorts of problems.
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Post by: blueToffee on June 14, 2014, 03:28:11 AM
Holland looking as good as anyone so far.
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Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 14, 2014, 03:28:37 AM
NBC's wall-to-wall Prem coverage, Roberto analyzing international play.  If you love footy, need to come to America.
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Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 03:28:45 AM
Just like the weather in holland?
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Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 03:30:01 AM

NBC's wall-to-wall Prem coverage, Roberto analyzing international play.  If you love footy, need to come to America.

Sounds good mate! 


And now it's 4!
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Post by: Audrey Horne on June 14, 2014, 03:30:13 AM
holy shit yessss
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Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 14, 2014, 03:30:31 AM
Wow. Just wow .
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Post by: Cuttyblue on June 14, 2014, 03:30:31 AM
Wow! Humiliation!
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Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 03:30:56 AM
Does the golden boot have an orange tint?
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Post by: The Good Citizen on June 14, 2014, 03:30:56 AM
Wow, Spain all over the place at the back tonight.
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Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 03:31:25 AM
Fantastic.
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Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 03:31:31 AM
The final death knell of tiki taka, with Barca in decline and now Spain getting battered?
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Post by: Gash on June 14, 2014, 03:31:36 AM
This is what can happen when you play a keeper who hasn't played that much in the last 18 months.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 03:32:12 AM
Roberto's not on SBS
:(

Getting plenty of air time on ESPN here.
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Post by: Amata on June 14, 2014, 03:32:13 AM
Just wow!
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Post by: Confucius on June 14, 2014, 03:32:51 AM
My great great great grandmother was dutch. Loving this.....
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 14, 2014, 03:33:17 AM
For non-Americans, the short version of Roberto's halftime analysis was that Spain did pretty much nothing in the first half, and were way out of position. 
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Post by: blueToffee on June 14, 2014, 03:33:50 AM
This is what can happen when you play a keeper who hasn't played that much in the last 18 months.

Got to wonder why de Gea isn't playing.
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Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 14, 2014, 03:34:19 AM
Got to wonder why de Gea isn't playing.

I bet he will be against Chile.
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Post by: The Good Citizen on June 14, 2014, 03:34:36 AM
That Dutchman moaning when the ref sprays his boots... as if he couldn't step back to allow him to make the line. Childish tit.
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Post by: Nicco on June 14, 2014, 03:35:51 AM
This is what can happen when you play a keeper who hasn't played that much in the last 18 months.
24 games this season....
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Post by: Cuttyblue on June 14, 2014, 03:36:01 AM
Doubt Spain will be this poor defensively in the next 2 matches. But the Dutch hi tempo attack has completely overrun them tonight!
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Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 03:36:27 AM
Got to wonder why de Gea isn't playing.

Del Bosque probably too loyal to the players who have given Spain such success, and not clinical enough. Xavi shouldn't really be playing in this team still either.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 03:36:52 AM
Jermaine Lens - to Everton? C'mon Bobby!
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Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 03:37:20 AM
5!
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Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 03:37:38 AM
Flipping 5!
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Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 14, 2014, 03:37:50 AM
Unbelievable Jeff!
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Post by: Nicco on June 14, 2014, 03:37:53 AM
Humiliation !!!
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Post by: The Good Citizen on June 14, 2014, 03:37:53 AM
Fuck me that was just brilliant.
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Post by: Audrey Horne on June 14, 2014, 03:38:08 AM
wow!!!
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Post by: Amata on June 14, 2014, 03:38:08 AM
Brilliant!
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Post by: Cuttyblue on June 14, 2014, 03:38:14 AM
MAGICAL by Robben. Isn't he in his 30s? Spain toooooo slow!
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Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 14, 2014, 03:38:54 AM
Lol was just about to post "I can see holland getting a 5th".....
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Post by: blueToffee on June 14, 2014, 03:38:59 AM
Ha.
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Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 03:39:37 AM

Getting plenty of air time on ESPN here.
Must be loving it old mate!
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Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 03:39:39 AM
Imagine what's going on in Amsterdam right now.
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Post by: Amata on June 14, 2014, 03:40:00 AM
Come on get a 6th.
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Post by: Confucius on June 14, 2014, 03:40:18 AM
Why didn't they do this 4 years ago?
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Post by: blob on June 14, 2014, 03:40:34 AM
the dutch have always had this in them, but personalities and politics have often fucked them up.

brilliant display, from what i've seen.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 03:40:35 AM
Could Spain do with a 'real' number 9?
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Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 14, 2014, 03:41:29 AM
Hey, I could win the 20 pounds for worst finish!
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Post by: Gash on June 14, 2014, 03:41:43 AM
24 games this season....

He's played 15 Champions League and 2 La Liga plus a couple of World Cup qualifiers in Sept/Oct and one Copa Del Rey, it's not exactly week in week out.
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Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 14, 2014, 03:42:09 AM
Why didn't they do this 4 years ago?

Because Spain were at their peak and the Dutch had Heitinga in their starting eleven.
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Post by: Gash on June 14, 2014, 03:43:10 AM
Imagine what's going on in Amsterdam right now.

Same as every night, a bit of window shopping while off their tits on some of those nice cakes they make.
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Post by: Cuttyblue on June 14, 2014, 03:43:18 AM
Imagine what's going on in Amsterdam right now.

Whores about to be destroyed?
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Post by: blueToffee on June 14, 2014, 03:44:06 AM
Because Spain were at their peak and the Dutch had Heitinga in their starting eleven.

Yeah, Ron Vlaar was the key ;)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 03:44:30 AM

Come on get a 6th.
Think 5 might be it now.

If Australia just happen to beat Chile could we make it through the group on GD?
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Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 03:44:31 AM
Same as every night, a bit of window shopping while off their tits on some of those nice cakes they make.

Whores about to be destroyed?

The second one.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Confucius on June 14, 2014, 03:44:35 AM
SO Van gaal is a defensive coach?
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Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 03:44:49 AM
Volley by Robben.
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Post by: Confucius on June 14, 2014, 03:45:18 AM
the dutch have always had this in them, but personalities and politics have often fucked them up.

brilliant display, from what i've seen.

You have seen nothing
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Post by: Simon Paul on June 14, 2014, 03:45:39 AM
could almost be in double figures here!
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Post by: Cuttyblue on June 14, 2014, 03:46:36 AM
Volley by Robben.

I would rate his performance a 10, unreal.
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Post by: Gash on June 14, 2014, 03:46:37 AM
Trust Everton to get a Spanish manager just as the "Spanish way" goes tits up.  :)
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Post by: blueToffee on June 14, 2014, 03:47:42 AM
Games like this is why FIFA get away with all the sh*t they pull.
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Post by: blob on June 14, 2014, 03:47:58 AM
You have seen nothing

she relented after 15 minutes, when i couldn't find a stream. true love :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 03:48:40 AM
Or just a different number 9!  lol
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Post by: Cuttyblue on June 14, 2014, 03:48:48 AM
Torres= complete muppet
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Post by: Gash on June 14, 2014, 03:49:02 AM
That's got to be over 4 years now that Torres has been pish?
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Post by: blueToffee on June 14, 2014, 03:49:06 AM
How many could they have had?
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Post by: blueToffee on June 14, 2014, 03:49:35 AM
Oh Torres.
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Post by: Nicco on June 14, 2014, 03:50:14 AM
He's played 15 Champions League and 2 La Liga plus a couple of World Cup qualifiers in Sept/Oct and one Copa Del Rey, it's not exactly week in week out.
2 in La Liga yes and actually only 13 in CL but 9 in Copa Del Rey.
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Post by: Gash on June 14, 2014, 03:50:23 AM
The sad thing is the Dutch have the ability to completely fuck it up in another game.
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Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 03:51:02 AM
And to top it all off, Fabregas is wearing pink and baby blue odd coloured boots!
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Post by: hill135 on June 14, 2014, 03:51:08 AM
Ramos and Pique have been given a defensive lesson by Ron fucking Vlaar! I said before the match that he was a world class centre back ;)

Van Gaal has played a blinder here. I had them finishing third in the group but they look excellent.
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Post by: Thornton_19 on June 14, 2014, 03:52:16 AM
Ramos and Pique have been given a defensive lesson by Ron fucking Vlaar! I said before the match that he was a world class centre back ;)

Van Gaal has played a blinder here. I had them finishing third in the group but they look excellent.

Wouldn't be surprised now if Chile top the group. Think they'll beat Holland.
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Post by: Gash on June 14, 2014, 03:52:21 AM
2 in La Liga yes and actually only 13 in CL but 9 in Copa Del Rey.

It's still not regular football being your club's cup keeper, I'm a Casillas fan but the manager's shown far too much loyalty to him here.
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Post by: Nicco on June 14, 2014, 03:52:25 AM
Trust Everton to get a Spanish manager just as the "Spanish way" goes tits up.  :)
And Utd get a dutch one.....
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 03:52:26 AM
Has van Gaal had dental work?
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Post by: Audrey Horne on June 14, 2014, 03:52:29 AM
Absolutely brilliant, great start to the World Cup and only day two!!
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Post by: Simon Paul on June 14, 2014, 03:53:07 AM
can't wait to record our World Cup podcast in a minute!
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Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 03:53:29 AM
Chile won't be thrilled with that result I don't think. Going to be a right scramble to qualify in that group.
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Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 03:54:23 AM
Fantastic to see Spain getting annihilated. If Australia beat Chile, could be a great day for group B.
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Post by: blueToffee on June 14, 2014, 03:54:58 AM
can't wait to record our World Cup podcast in a minute!

Doing live commentary on Chile v Australia?
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Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 03:55:13 AM

The sad thing is the Dutch have the ability to completely fuck it up in another game.
Hopefully against Australia! :)
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Post by: Simon Paul on June 14, 2014, 03:56:37 AM
Doing live commentary on Chile v Australia?

nah, cover that in tomorrow's episode which will be recorded before the England game

not staying up til 2am to record them and we tend to have released them at around 11pm so far so people will be expecting it
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Post by: Ross on June 14, 2014, 03:57:00 AM
Great game,,my highlight was Torres obviously watching the Dutch montage goals instead of scoring a tap in  lolol lolol
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Post by: blueToffee on June 14, 2014, 03:57:49 AM
In case you missed RVP's diving header for Holland's first goal it was a combination of this...

(http://cdn.gifstache.com/2013/7/16/1259791954_1602048701.gif)

(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web04/2012/1/20/14/anigif_enhanced-buzz-21531-1327086902-28.gif)

(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web03/2012/1/20/13/anigif_enhanced-buzz-15412-1327085582-9.gif)
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Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 14, 2014, 04:00:39 AM
Chile won't be thrilled with that result I don't think. Going to be a right scramble to qualify in that group.

All they have to do is draw Spain, and they should be clear.
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Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 04:03:00 AM
All they have to do is draw Spain, and they should be clear.

True but that's a massive ask. I think they'd prefer to have to get a result against Holland than Spain, even with what we've just seen.
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Post by: Major Clanger on June 14, 2014, 04:03:21 AM
That was sweet.
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Post by: Redartin on June 14, 2014, 04:10:40 AM
Three things from this game.

Even if Spain still qualify this goal difference will more than likely mean they will be 2nd in the group possibly playing Brazil in the next round. If Chile are as good as some say the goal diff could put Spain out.

Second thing about this game which is NOT good - United fans are going to start talking shite again about their new messiah.

Third thing - if Chelsea are stupid enough to fork out 35m for Costa it will be hard to say who will be the biggest cunt player in the premier league between him and Suarez next season.

Note I said cunt player this eliminates Mark Hughes.
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Post by: Audrey Horne on June 14, 2014, 04:12:48 AM
yess Vidal starts :D
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Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 04:14:09 AM
Vidal starts for Chile :)

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Post by: cantoffee on June 14, 2014, 04:14:27 AM
Could see three teams finishing on six points in this group with goal difference playing a major factor.

That was great to watch, I love Robben, a couple of brilliant goals tonight and almost capped it with that unbelievable volley towards to the end.
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Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 04:23:38 AM
Come on Australia!
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Post by: cantoffee on June 14, 2014, 04:24:39 AM
Would love an upset here.

Time for Cahill to show Van Persie how to head a ball ;)
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Post by: DannyR on June 14, 2014, 04:28:20 AM
Is it just me or is the spray paint a silly idea
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Post by: Cuttyblue on June 14, 2014, 04:31:06 AM
Three things from this game.

Even if Spain still qualify this goal difference will more than likely mean they will be 2nd in the group possibly playing Brazil in the next round. If Chile are as good as some say the goal diff could put Spain out.

Second thing about this game which is NOT good - United fans are going to start talking shite again about their new messiah.

Third thing - if Chelsea are stupid enough to fork out 35m for Costa it will be hard to say who will be the biggest cunt player in the premier league between him and Suarez next season.

Note I said cunt player this eliminates Mark Hughes.

Good shout about the Manure angle. Hope they suffer another failed season under this guy.
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Post by: Major Clanger on June 14, 2014, 04:41:06 AM
Is it just me or is the spray paint a silly idea

It's just a small idea that helps save some time. Not a lot, fifteen seconds maybe per free kick but still.

More importantly, it demonstrates control to the viewer, which is almost as important as control itself.
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Post by: blob on June 14, 2014, 04:43:55 AM
It's just a small idea that helps save some time. Not a lot, fifteen seconds maybe per free kick but still.

More importantly, it demonstrates control to the viewer, which is almost as important as control itself.

i thought he meant spraying the bare patches green; silly idea  :)
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Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 04:46:18 AM
Cahill up front as lone striker. Transformation from midfielder to striker complete.
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Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 04:47:58 AM

It's just a small idea that helps save some time. Not a lot, fifteen seconds maybe per free kick but still.

More importantly, it demonstrates control to the viewer, which is almost as important as control itself.
Agreed. Perhaps we could tar divers with the same brush?
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Post by: Tinga on June 14, 2014, 04:50:14 AM
That KFC advert pisses me off, a boola booooo.

Come on Chile!!.
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Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 04:50:44 AM

Cahill up front as lone striker. Transformation from midfielder to striker complete.
Yep, more direct and quick attacks with Timmy playing in the wingers down the flanks will be key. Timmy is now too slow to be in the middle.
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Post by: Thom on June 14, 2014, 04:52:32 AM
Loved seeing the Dutch tear Spain apart on the counter. Robben and Van Persie were sensational in the second half.
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Post by: Redartin on June 14, 2014, 04:52:41 AM
Michael O'Neill the Northern Ireland manager is on the panel on RTE.
The presenter suggested that Chile have a  disciplinary problem and he asked O'Neill did he notice this when NI played them recently.
O'Neill replied,
"We didn't have the ball that much for them to foul us"   lolol
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Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 04:53:30 AM
(http://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t1.0-9/s526x395/10352581_10152928647579745_4904844125115063001_n.jpg)
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Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 04:54:22 AM
lol Chile's national anthem sounds like something out of Disneyland.
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Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 04:55:14 AM
Gotta love the acapella bit though.
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Post by: Audrey Horne on June 14, 2014, 04:56:14 AM
that was awesome!!!
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Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 04:57:19 AM
Fever pitch atmosphere!!
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Post by: Simon Paul on June 14, 2014, 04:57:45 AM
http://www.worldcupcast.co.uk/world-cup-podcast/world-cup-matchday-two-podcast/ (http://www.worldcupcast.co.uk/world-cup-podcast/world-cup-matchday-two-podcast/)
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Post by: Redartin on June 14, 2014, 04:57:55 AM
Australian keeper must have fell asleep in the sun - tomato head.
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Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 04:59:15 AM
Good luck Aussie NSNOers.
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Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 04:59:21 AM
Have a friend on Facebook who's personal friends with Ange Postecoglou. He went to her wedding, and her ex husband was best man at his.
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Post by: Gash on June 14, 2014, 05:07:16 AM
Netherlands heat map versus Spain tonight.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10458008_10153079696334657_8073467153521832093_n.jpg)
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Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 05:08:54 AM
Ooooo I say.
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Post by: Redartin on June 14, 2014, 05:11:19 AM
Sweet Chile Goal !

With fried rice or boiled?
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Post by: Jimmywhack on June 14, 2014, 05:11:35 AM
And that's that
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Post by: Tinga on June 14, 2014, 05:11:45 AM
1-0 Sanchez. Get in. (Sorry Aussies)
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Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 05:11:53 AM
Sweet. Captain of my fantasy team.
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Post by: Tinga on June 14, 2014, 05:13:48 AM
.....oh my. 2-0
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Post by: Ross on June 14, 2014, 05:14:02 AM
Could get more ugly than Helen Daniels taking Bowser for a walk this
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Post by: Redartin on June 14, 2014, 05:14:10 AM
Chile absolutely red hot!
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Post by: Thornton_19 on June 14, 2014, 05:15:11 AM
All about Chile this World Cup
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Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 05:15:54 AM
Terrible defending for the second. Like watching kids football, everyone bunched together.
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Post by: Audrey Horne on June 14, 2014, 05:16:04 AM
Sweet. Captain of my fantasy team.

an assist for him as well you lucky devil!
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Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 05:16:17 AM
I'd probably take Vidal off now, and save him for Spain and Holland.
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Post by: Simon Paul on June 14, 2014, 05:18:34 AM
Cahill sending off tonight?
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Post by: Ridge on June 14, 2014, 05:19:34 AM
Another goal confirmed.
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Post by: Ridge on June 14, 2014, 05:19:51 AM
That was a goal.
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Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 14, 2014, 05:24:15 AM
Cahill sending off tonight?

Maybe. I can see him getting frustrated. His team mates are poo.

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Post by: Ridge on June 14, 2014, 05:24:43 AM
Australia look like a baby giraffe rollerskating on jelly.
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Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 05:25:29 AM
Don't feel too bad, Germany couldn't get near to Chile earlier this year either.
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Post by: Ridge on June 14, 2014, 05:29:35 AM
South Americans love their sweeper keepers don't they.

Tommy Oar is shit.
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Post by: Ridge on June 14, 2014, 05:32:45 AM
It's a brave team that knocks the ball about in defence with Gary Medel as the only central defender.
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Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 05:34:54 AM
Come onnnnnnnn!!!!!  Timmy!!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ridge on June 14, 2014, 05:34:54 AM
Love that man
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Post by: Ross on June 14, 2014, 05:35:12 AM
He's still a bloody ripper ain't he
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Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 05:35:20 AM
Classic Tim. Another belting game.
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Post by: Gash on June 14, 2014, 05:35:46 AM
He can still jump.
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Post by: Ridge on June 14, 2014, 05:36:02 AM
He doesn't shy away in a pile of dogshit does he?
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Post by: pjk on June 14, 2014, 05:36:28 AM
Get in there Tim. We let him go to early.
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Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 05:37:03 AM

Classic Tim. Another belting header.
Fixed
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Post by: Cuttyblue on June 14, 2014, 05:38:38 AM
Anybody else leap up like it was an Everton goal? Love our Blue Tim.

Goals galore this wc so far!
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Post by: Redartin on June 14, 2014, 05:39:48 AM
If Cahill got top scorer, and all his goals were headers like that, would they give him a "golden neck" award?
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Post by: Major Clanger on June 14, 2014, 05:41:40 AM
I remember his first goal in 2006, I was watching it at work and my yell reverberated in the office. :)
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Post by: Ross on June 14, 2014, 05:45:45 AM
Is there any former player that Everton fans have ever been so proud of?
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Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 05:46:38 AM
I remember his first goal in 2006, I was watching it at work and my yell reverberated in the office. :)

I was watching in France. We had French plumbers in. My ex and I jumped through the roof!
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Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 05:49:12 AM
A lot of respect for the Aussies getting back into that, after the onslaught.

For Chile, all the good and bad things on display. Amazing to watch going forward, but always vulnerable to crosses, and if you can get it past their high press, massively vulnerable on the counter attack.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 05:49:26 AM

Australia look like a baby giraffe rollerskating on jelly.
Doesn't help with us in yellow and white.
Great goal Timmy, but being comprehensively outplayed.
Still, there are chances on the break. Come on you Socceroos!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 14, 2014, 05:49:44 AM
I think Chile need to wake up in the second half.

Since they went 2-0 up they've been treating it like an exhibition match: they're having too much fun out there. Vidal in particular is looking for killer passes every time he gets the ball. They're rather open at the back and have paid for it by conceding a goal.
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Post by: Ridge on June 14, 2014, 05:51:09 AM
Is there any former player that Everton fans have ever been so proud of?

Can't think of any.

For me it's even more impressive when you consider how shocking they were before the goal and how much he is carrying the team. He's now scored 5 of the 6 goals the team have scored under the new manager, and he won the penalty for the other goal.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 05:51:55 AM

Anybody else leap up like it was an Everton goal? Love our Blue Tim.
Um, yes. ;)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 14, 2014, 05:56:40 AM
Can't think of any.

For me it's even more impressive when you consider how shocking they were before the goal and how much he is carrying the team. He's now scored 5 of the 6 goals the team have scored under the new manager, and he won the penalty for the other goal.

He's a leader of men isn't he.

He's got so much passion, desire and charisma that for me the likes of Gerrard can only dream of.

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 05:59:21 AM
He's a true Blue.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 14, 2014, 06:01:09 AM
He's a true Blue.

He really is though piss taking apart...he's just a bloody good Aussie.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 06:02:50 AM
He really is though piss taking apart...he's just a bloody good Aussie.

Well, my comment covered both bases :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 06:03:40 AM
The new coach has been brave in not taking a lot of older and potentially better players, and has changed style. (Haven't had a chance to see it yet)
Let's hope we can do it in this half. Nerves gone. Possession.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 06:04:09 AM
The one thing I like about this world cup is none of those stupid buzzing things like in SA.

Although I did hear something just as annoying just before the second half kick off and it was that shitty Happy song by that twat with the hat.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 14, 2014, 06:05:22 AM
Well, my comment covered both bases :)

Yeah yeah I got Blargs so did every other Joe Mangel fan!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 06:08:35 AM
Farqq!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tinga on June 14, 2014, 06:09:26 AM
The one thing I like about this world cup is none of those stupid buzzing things like in SA.

Although I did hear something just as annoying just before the second half kick off and it was that shitty Happy song by that twat with the hat.

Brazillllllllllllllllllll  :hug:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 06:10:41 AM
What!!!!
Title: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 06:11:10 AM
Stone the flamin crows!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 06:14:21 AM
Ahhhhh!!!!!!  Flippin heck!!!!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tinga on June 14, 2014, 06:14:23 AM
Some save that.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 06:14:33 AM
Close again. Come on Oz.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 06:15:25 AM
Some save, some comeback from the Aussies, some game.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 14, 2014, 06:17:09 AM
Best game of the tournament so far
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on June 14, 2014, 06:17:28 AM
Incredible tournament so far.

If the Aussies manage this comeback I've effectively just worked a full shift at work for about 9 quid😒
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 06:17:35 AM
Australia very unlucky not to be ahead really.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 06:19:55 AM
Carmon!!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Redartin on June 14, 2014, 06:20:48 AM
Was the technology not a bit late?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cuttyblue on June 14, 2014, 06:21:37 AM
Incredible tournament so far.

If the Aussies manage this comeback I've effectively just worked a full shift at work for about 9 quid😒

Last 2 matches have overshadowed the shit reffing of the first two. Been a great day for WC
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Thornton_19 on June 14, 2014, 06:22:08 AM
Last 2 matches have overshadowed the shit reffing of the first two. Been a great day for WC

The reffing has still been ropey in these two.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 06:22:33 AM
Leckie and Davidson ripping it up.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 06:24:29 AM
The reffing is always bad. It's part of the game now. Unfortunately.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 06:24:34 AM
Great pass ref!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cuttyblue on June 14, 2014, 06:25:44 AM
Great pass ref!!

Was! :) this ref has done well tonight. So have linesmen
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ridge on June 14, 2014, 06:26:13 AM
Australia very unlucky not to be ahead really.

(http://www.obsessedwithfilm.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/no-country-for-old-men_tommy-lee-jones_josh-brolin_javier-bardem_9.jpg)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 14, 2014, 06:26:49 AM
Shocker from the ref there, first touch and he's had a nightmare.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 06:27:44 AM
Dah!!!!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 06:29:28 AM
(http://www.obsessedwithfilm.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/no-country-for-old-men_tommy-lee-jones_josh-brolin_javier-bardem_9.jpg)

Up to that point they had the better chances. Chile are very much like Arsenal. All frills and little end product.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 06:30:23 AM
Goal has given us belief. We're a different proposition now.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 06:30:58 AM

Up to that point they had the better chances. Chile are very much like Arsenal. All frills and little end product.
precisely.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Danny on June 14, 2014, 06:32:08 AM
Something from another forum on the Spain - Holland kit choices.......

• For each match, the team listed first (on FIFA's website) is designated as the home side.

• Since this match is listed as "Spain v Netherlands", Spain receives first choice of which kit to wear.

• Spain selects all-red.

• Since Holland's Orange clashes with red, Holland must switch to blue.

• But according to the regulations, we now have a case of dark colored kit v dark colored kit.

• With Spain's alternate kit being all-black, FIFA inform Spain and their kit manufacturer (Adidas) that a light colored kit needs to be submitted to comply with FIFA regulations.

• All-white is chosen and will be worn against Holland.

• This means Holland can switch to orange right? Wrong. Orange is deemed to be Holland's light colored kit, so white v orange would mean light kit v light kit.

• For this match, Spain will wear white and Holland will dress in blue.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 06:33:13 AM
Something from another forum on the Spain - Holland kit choices.......

• For each match, the team listed first (on FIFA's website) is designated as the home side.

• Since this match is listed as "Spain v Netherlands", Spain receives first choice of which kit to wear.

• Spain selects all-red.

• Since Holland's Orange clashes with red, Holland must switch to blue.

• But according to the regulations, we now have a case of dark colored kit v dark colored kit.

• With Spain's alternate kit being all-black, FIFA inform Spain and their kit manufacturer (Adidas) that a light colored kit needs to be submitted to comply with FIFA regulations.

• All-white is chosen and will be worn against Holland.

• This means Holland can switch to orange right? Wrong. Orange is deemed to be Holland's light colored kit, so white v orange would mean light kit v light kit.

• For this match, Spain will wear white and Holland will dress in blue.

Madness. White and orange are plenty different enough to see clearly.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 06:34:11 AM
Up to that point they had the better chances. Chile are very much like Arsenal. All frills and little end product.

Arsenal keep the ball for keeping the ball's sake. Chile attack constantly, no matter what the scoreline, or whether it's to their detriment.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 06:35:53 AM
Arsenal keep the ball for keeping the ball's sake. Chile attack constantly, no matter what the scoreline, or whether it's to their detriment.

Chile could have killed the game off ages ago. They choose to try and walk the ball in. I don't see a lot in Chile that makes me think they are any threat to going far in the tournament. Based on this game that is.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 06:37:26 AM
Chile could have killed the game off ages ago. They choose to try and walk the ball in. I don't see a lot in Chile that makes me think they are any threat to going far in the tournament. Based on this game that is.

There's a subtle distinction between Arsenal's obsession with possession and Chile's obsession with attack, but both managers are equally inflexible, I will give you that.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 06:37:56 AM
There's a subtle distinction between Arsenal's obsession with possession and Chile's obsession with attack, but both managers are equally inflexible, I will give you that.

And both teams like to walk it into the net.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 06:40:08 AM
And both teams like to walk it into the net.

Unfortunately it's a necessity because Chile just don't have the world class striker that a lot of the other South American teams possess for that clinical touch. They'd be lethal with a Falcao, Suarez, or Aguero.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 06:43:29 AM
Neither do Australia, doesn't stop them having a go.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 14, 2014, 06:43:46 AM
Come the fuck on Roo's fuck the tippy tappy shit and get Timmy whacky on it ffs
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 06:45:11 AM
Neither do Australia, doesn't stop them having a go.

The comparison was with Arsenal. Wenger could buy a world class striker, but he doesn't because he's a stubborn bellend. You don't have that luxury at international level.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 14, 2014, 06:48:56 AM
Let this last chance fall to Cahill pls
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 06:49:18 AM
The comparison was with Arsenal. Wenger could buy a world class striker, but he doesn't because he's a stubborn bellend. You don't have that luxury at international level.

But they're playing against Australia. As soon as they got the second, they stepped off the gas and almost got themselves in trouble on numerous occasions as a result. After 15 minutes, I feared the worse, but they are nothing to fear at all.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: pjk on June 14, 2014, 06:49:45 AM
Tim Cahill has just run his heart out.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 06:50:16 AM
See what happens when you twat it.

Poor Aussies.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 06:50:41 AM
But they're playing against Australia. As soon as they got the second, they stepped off the gas and almost got themselves in trouble on numerous occasions as a result. After 15 minutes, I feared the worse, but they are nothing to fear at all.

You were the one who made the comparison.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 14, 2014, 06:50:54 AM
Bastard there's no way this has been a 3-1 game,  hipster taking bollocks of not.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tinga on June 14, 2014, 06:51:26 AM
Well there goes my sweep result. I had 2-1 Chile. Cuntsticks.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 06:51:32 AM
Bugger
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 06:51:40 AM
You were the one who made the comparison.

And my comparison was correct. Both teams walk in in the net most of the time.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 06:57:34 AM
And my comparison was correct. Both teams walk in in the net most of the time.

I agree that Chile can definitely be guilty of that (but it's arguably borne out of necessity because all of their best players are wide forwards or midfielders). Having said that, they did score goals from outside the box, from the edge of the box and from a tight angle with numerous players back. Not bad for a team trying to walk the ball in.
Title: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 07:01:36 AM
I thought Australia battled well in the second half.  Plenty of chances and really could have stolen it.
Proud of the boys.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 14, 2014, 07:01:52 AM
Gave it a good go lads and looked dangerous, suppose that's all you can ask for @Cods (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=293) @BrotherEstapol (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2152)  @Glory (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3797)  @Jamokachi (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=9) ( ;))
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 07:03:12 AM
Gave it a good go lads and looked dangerous, suppose that's all you can ask for @Cods (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=293) @BrotherEstapol (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2152)  @Glory (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3797)  @Jamokachi (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=9) ( ;))

You missed me out. I still have my Aussie passport :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Glory on June 14, 2014, 07:04:47 AM
I was pretty proud of them! Young squad who were clearly nervous for the first 20 minutes. Had a number of chances to equalise in the second half but just couldn't find the final ball or finishing touch.

Thought Mathew Leckie was really impressive throughout the second half with his pace causing them all kinds of problems.


Oh and Tim Cahill is a fucking legend
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 07:07:55 AM
Definitely could've won or drawn that game. Much as i'm arguing about Chile, it's not intended as any slight on the Aussies. I was shocked by how good the Aussies looked as the game wore on, having been led to believe they would be very ordinary by a few people.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 14, 2014, 07:08:39 AM
You missed me out. I still have my Aussie passport :)

I'm saving you for the USA game against Germany or would you prefer France ffs you greedy bugger!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 07:16:03 AM
I'm saving you for the USA game against Germany or would you prefer France ffs you greedy bugger!

Hey, I've earned my right to be able to have these countries :) I'm only a citizen of two though, and I'm not American.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sprooly on June 14, 2014, 07:17:36 AM
We were pretty poor in the first 15, and they were deadly

but the next 75, didn't give away that many chances and had a few of our own, Cahill was so close to being onside and I thought the bresciano volley was going in, I would have brought on Taggert whose more of a natural striker and gone 2 upfront instead of Troisi but oh well not sure how much difference it would have made.

Gotta love the heart and passion we showed, Tim Cahill is a national hero and once again delivered for us like he always does

main positives players wise I thought Davidson Leckie  and Milligan were really good,

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: BrotherEstapol on June 14, 2014, 07:21:39 AM
Socceroos exceeded most people's expectations and that's all I was hoping for! Could have got a draw out of that I reckon, but very pleased with their performance after the first 2 goals.

On the upside, we're not bottom of the group. *waves at Spain* :P
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 07:23:13 AM
Haven't enjoyed a world cup like this in years.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: NomadskiEFC on June 14, 2014, 02:10:35 PM
Pleased for Tim for getting his goal, shame they just couldn't pull another goal out when it mattered.

Also....Brazil v Spain second round. Bring it on!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Heisenberg on June 14, 2014, 03:24:33 PM
Haven't enjoyed a world cup like this in years.

4 years?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bob Sacamano on June 14, 2014, 03:38:30 PM
Hello everyone. Is there any early matches on today? Taken full advantage of my new weekend policy and waked and baked. Now I'd like to watch some football. Goodbye everyone.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 14, 2014, 03:46:06 PM
Hello everyone. Is there any early matches on today? Taken full advantage of my new weekend policy and waked and baked. Now I'd like to watch some football. Goodbye everyone.

5pm

ps. youre baked at 9am?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bob Sacamano on June 14, 2014, 03:55:57 PM
5pm

ps. youre baked at 9am?

Unfortunately yes, I have a pusher monkey on my back and I just can't shake it.

No 11am game? Or am I just making this up? Totally thought I'd sit back and watch a match this morning.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 14, 2014, 04:19:10 PM
Unfortunately yes, I have a pusher monkey on my back and I just can't shake it.

No 11am game? Or am I just making this up? Totally thought I'd sit back and watch a match this morning.

Nope just 5, 8, 11,  2am x
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 04:25:28 PM
4 years?
8 years at least.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 14, 2014, 04:55:06 PM
After Holland handing Spain their arse yesterday I keep getting pangs of delusion and think England will beat Italy tonight.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 14, 2014, 05:21:02 PM
i think we will win
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 14, 2014, 05:32:55 PM
Spain, awful after 1 game,
There'll be an inquisition.




Everyone saw that one coming.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 05:39:18 PM
I have no idea what will happen in England v Italy, but I can't wait. Hopefully Roy will be bold and go with Sterling and Lallana rather than Wellbeck and Milner. Italy are vulnerable in the full back positions (although arguably we have the worst full back of both teams at RB).

Really looking forward to seeing Columbia later today, but worried that Greece will make it a borefest. Also think Ivory Coast v Japan could be a great game, but very hard to predict.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 14, 2014, 05:42:37 PM
fingers crossed against italy; boring, defensive, prima-donna shithouses that they are.

could be the first 0-0, but i hope not.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 14, 2014, 06:27:53 PM
BBC Match of the Day analyze Spain 1 Holland 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV9-un_nfw0#ws)

I think the Beeb need to employ some better pundits. The world champions get their arses kicked and the reaction is dour, boring, and incredibly dull. In contrast, Martinez and co on ESPN were so much more interesting to listen to, they analysed it well, and well, were quite positive. Henry sounds like one of the most boring human beings to walk the planet based off of that clip. Where's the passion lads?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 14, 2014, 06:45:11 PM
I think it was ITV yesterday that was saying there is a strong indication Roy will line up with the team he used against Honduras.

         Gerrard Henderson
Lallana      Rooney    Welbeck
                Sturridge

To me that has very little balance. Sturridge up on is own, Rooney as an auxiliary midfielder/number 10 and Welbeck out wide are all in roles not best suited to them. Plus we know the faults with Gerrard and how Henderson looks better when he's not next to him.

Simply, later tonight Italy will have 4, maybe even 5 central midfielders. England will have 2. They can't win the midfield battle and will have to rely on a containment strategy without the ball. In the conditions - and with Glen Johnson at the back - that's going to be very difficult.

It's also worth remembering that under Prandelli Italy have lost only 3 competitive games: a final, a semi final on pens, and a dead rubber group game last summer.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 06:56:03 PM
It's a reactive team than rather a proactive one, there's no doubt about that. If that is the approach, I suppose only time will tell if it's been successful. If they get out of this game with 0-0 or 1-1, and then look to be more progressive in the other games, it will have been vindicated. If we're completely dominated and lose comfortably, then we probably need to win the other two games.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Heisenberg on June 14, 2014, 07:28:23 PM
It's a reactive team than rather a proactive one, there's no doubt about that. If that is the approach, I suppose only time will tell if it's been successful. If they get out of this game with 0-0 or 1-1, and then look to be more progressive in the other games, it will have been vindicated. If we're completely dominated and lose comfortably, then we probably need to win the other two games.

I dont understand not playing sterling. Its painfully obvious he's going to come on after wellbeck watches 70mins just pass him by
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 14, 2014, 07:30:07 PM
I think Wellbeck, Rooney and sturridge have linked up well. I'm happy with that team, it's too much expecting sterling or Barkley to start that game and make an impression.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 07:36:55 PM
I dont understand not playing sterling. Its painfully obvious he's going to come on after wellbeck watches 70mins just pass him by

I'm with you mate. I'd go for Sterling all day long and try to give Italy some problems in their weaker areas rather than just setting up to contain/deal with them. He loves Wellbeck though for his contribution without the ball, as much as anything.

I can definitely understand not playing Barkley in this game though. I imagine we'll make all of our 3 substitutions with the insane heat and humidity, so Barkley can still have an impact in the latter stages, and possibly the decisive impact if we're still in the game at that point.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 14, 2014, 07:37:01 PM
I'd prefer lallana on the left to link with Baines but can see the logic of him on the right as Johnson needs all the help he can get
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 14, 2014, 07:56:10 PM
I've said all along Spain won't make it out the group. Tiki taka has been found out
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Heisenberg on June 14, 2014, 08:11:31 PM
I'm with you mate. I'd go for Sterling all day long and try to give Italy some problems in their weaker areas rather than just setting up to contain/deal with them. He loves Wellbeck though for his contribution without the ball, as much as anything.

I can definitely understand not playing Barkley in this game though. I imagine we'll make all of our 3 substitutions with the insane heat and humidity, so Barkley can still have an impact in the latter stages, and possibly the decisive impact if we're still in the game at that point.

To be honest, even if you was to ignore wellbeck, id have sterling above lallana aswell. In the friendlies lallana looked like your typical show pony player. Sterling has alot more substance, he's direct and doesnt mess about. Roy had made his mind up before the friendlies about his team, because if it was on  form, his team would be very different. Im hoping the 3 youngsters can come on and do really well, pressuring him to play them more, because england looked alot more dangerous with them than without
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 14, 2014, 09:18:49 PM
Buffon out with an ankle injury.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 14, 2014, 10:21:35 PM
Victor Ibarbo is starting for Columbia ahead of Carlos Bacca.

I fucking hate Victor Ibarbo. He's one of those players on Football Manager who is monumentally, abysmally shite, but he always scores against me. I hope he has a shit World Cup.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 14, 2014, 10:26:46 PM
I hate watching Greece.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 14, 2014, 10:37:24 PM
I hate watching Greece.

regular watcher then?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ell Capitan on June 14, 2014, 10:41:45 PM
To be honest, even if you was to ignore wellbeck, id have sterling above lallana aswell. In the friendlies lallana looked like your typical show pony player. Sterling has alot more substance, he's direct and doesnt mess about. Roy had made his mind up before the friendlies about his team, because if it was on  form, his team would be very different. Im hoping the 3 youngsters can come on and do really well, pressuring him to play them more, because england looked alot more dangerous with them than without

Agreed on getting Sterling in the team but I don't think you're being fair to Lallana to judge him on the three friendlies. He's shown plenty of "substance" across the season.

But yeah, can't understand not having Sterling in there. He's one of very few players who could cause Italy serious problems.



Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 14, 2014, 10:51:13 PM
regular watcher then?

No.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ell Capitan on June 14, 2014, 10:56:19 PM
BBC Match of the Day analyze Spain 1 Holland 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV9-un_nfw0#ws)

I think the Beeb need to employ some better pundits. The world champions get their arses kicked and the reaction is dour, boring, and incredibly dull. In contrast, Martinez and co on ESPN were so much more interesting to listen to, they analysed it well, and well, were quite positive. Henry sounds like one of the most boring human beings to walk the planet based off of that clip. Where's the passion lads?

Words cannot express for me what an absolute waste of space Alan Shearer is. Aside from being, without exaggeration, one of the most boring human beings I have ever seen, he has a shocking lack of tactical awareness, especially for someone who was such an incredible player. I have never once heard him say anything gave me insight into a team or player's tactics that wasn't blindingly obvious and that I hadn't already figured out. And this from a man who is paid to analyse football matches every day. It's just unbelievable.

One thing I have noticed since moving to America is that England has so many TV presenters that appear to have no discernible talent. I'm not saying American ones are more likable, they're not, but you can at least see why they got there. Noel Edmonds, Vanessa Feltz, Lorraine Kelly.. How the fuck do these people get famous?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on June 14, 2014, 10:59:45 PM
Not sure life gets much better than being on a stag do, few beers, few bets and a shite load of Charlie whilst watching the WC!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 14, 2014, 11:00:57 PM
Hopefully Columbia score early. Looking forward to watching 'Ha-mez' Rodriguez.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 14, 2014, 11:08:32 PM
Hopefully Columbia score early. Looking forward to watching 'Ha-mez' Rodriguez.

your wish came true :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 14, 2014, 11:11:03 PM
Columbia are going to win the WC. Nailed on.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 14, 2014, 11:14:29 PM
Columbia are going to win the WC. Nailed on.

colombia might. don't you just hate pedants :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 14, 2014, 11:20:01 PM
colombia might. don't you just hate pedants :)

Fuck you blob!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 14, 2014, 11:20:42 PM
Fuck you blob!

haha. i deserved that.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 14, 2014, 11:23:10 PM
Columbia are going to win the WC. Nailed on.

Free cocaine for everyone!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 14, 2014, 11:23:42 PM
You're being awfully facetious today, blob. :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 14, 2014, 11:27:44 PM
You're being awfully facetious today, blob. :)

every day. helps keep the sun out...sometimes
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Simon Paul on June 14, 2014, 11:28:32 PM
three days into the tournament and we're two pages away from beating the whole of the last World Cup's thread...
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 14, 2014, 11:34:14 PM
three days into the tournament and we're two pages away from beating the whole of the last World Cup's thread...

if i keep wittering on, that will happen today   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 14, 2014, 11:54:28 PM
well, that was a bit uninspiring. ram might be right about greece...

getting a bit of cabin-fever. might take the dog out, and help recharge my interest for the england game.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 12:12:50 AM
This is all just time-killer until the big match anyway.  Cote d'Ivorie, of course.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on June 15, 2014, 12:15:47 AM
So is Falcao in the squad or was he chopped?  I see him in the stands wearing his suit.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 12:17:48 AM
Damn it all to f-ck, don't let Greece catch Spain for last.  I need that 20 quid FFS!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 12:18:36 AM
So is Falcao in the squad or was he chopped?  I see him in the stands wearing his suit.

He's only there as a cheerleader, didn't make it in the end
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 12:18:51 AM
It feels like most of the other teams we've seen have moved beyond Greece's relative negativity, and that shit isn't going to fly anymore. Thankfully.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 12:22:42 AM
Who will Golden Dawn blame for this result?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 12:23:28 AM
What's Goldie Hawn got to do with it?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 12:30:24 AM
Who will Golden Dawn blame for this result?

Probably a combination of the Spanish empire and slavery.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 15, 2014, 12:40:15 AM
This is all just time-killer until the big match anyway.  Cote d'Ivorie, of course.

now you're just baiting me   :hmph:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Simon Paul on June 15, 2014, 12:45:05 AM
pretty dull predictable game like

Greece don't look like scoring even when they do attack
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 12:49:49 AM
Colombia and Chile haven't really impressed me. It's only early days though, can't really read too much into things at this stage
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 12:50:08 AM
Plenty to like about Columbia I reckon. Would not fancy them in the second round, which could well happen if we get through the group. Greece have a way of dragging everything down.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 12:50:53 AM
I will be content so long as someone takes out Brazil.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on June 15, 2014, 12:52:51 AM
Hamez!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tinga on June 15, 2014, 12:53:14 AM
Hamez!

James!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 12:55:26 AM
James!

J-Rod?

No?....fair enough.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bob Sacamano on June 15, 2014, 01:01:36 AM
Is Rio Ferdinand really talking about selfies?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 01:02:33 AM
Is Rio Ferdinand really talking about selfies?

And playing with 'freeness'.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 01:07:17 AM
American TV analysis is a contrast of extremes. As good as Roberto is, Alexi Lalas is at least as bad.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 01:13:10 AM
Colombia and Chile haven't really impressed me. It's only early days though, can't really read too much into things at this stage

Exactly. Spain were poor, but can easily come back and get second in the group. Australia won't trouble them much and Chile are nothing.

Holland looked great, but they can easily go the opposite way. In fact, it reminds me when we beat them 4-1 in the Euros and that was pretty much the highlight of the tournament for England, they were poor the rest of the time.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 15, 2014, 01:33:05 AM
do costa rica have a shout, or should rat face's lot have an easy ride in this one?

(alf ramsey will be turning in his grave...animals!!...or was it argentina?)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 01:39:47 AM
On paper you'd say Uruguay would stroll it, but who knows? Costa Rica might not be the absolute whipping boys that people are assuming. It's not inconceivable that they could upset one of the other three teams and get a point in one of the games.

Costa Rica did beat Mexico and the US in qualifying for the WC, but then also lost to Honduras, so really hard to say.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 15, 2014, 01:44:07 AM
On paper you'd say Uruguay would stroll it, but who knows? Costa Rica might not be the absolute whipping boys that people are assuming. It's not inconceivable that they could upset one of the other three teams and get a point in one of the games.

Costa Rica did beat Mexico and the US in qualifying for the WC, but then also lost to Honduras, so really hard to say.

well, i'll be shouting for costa rica :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Simon Paul on June 15, 2014, 01:48:09 AM
first game between two South American teams so far isn't it?

each time the South Americans have been involved thus far, they've won, so should be an interesting game!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 15, 2014, 01:53:30 AM
first game between two South American teams so far isn't it?

each time the South Americans have been involved thus far, they've won, so should be an interesting game!

costa rica are central americans, so uruguay should edge it with the ref :)

will be interesting to see if any alleged bias continues.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 01:58:00 AM
Uruguay in at number 1 with that national anthem
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 02:00:35 AM
Even if only there in spirit...come on, you Fightin' Oviedos!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 02:01:11 AM
Looking forward to seeing keylor navas here
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 15, 2014, 02:01:49 AM
Uruguay in at number 1 with that national anthem

oh i dunno, all the s american sides have pretty much nailed it; similar gusto to the scots...especially when they're playing england.

we await the confused mutterings of the english lads later tonight.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 02:03:44 AM
Worst aspect of Uruguay - rampant harbouring of Nazi war criminals, or Luis Suarez?  Discuss.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 02:04:38 AM
Anyone playing the Andy Townsend drinking game - two mentions of 'in and around' within 3 minutes. Get supping.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 02:06:15 AM
oh i dunno, all the s american sides have pretty much nailed it; similar gusto to the scots...especially when they're playing england.

we await the confused mutterings of the english lads later tonight.

It had everything blob, long intro, fast tempo, sung with gusto, crowd participation and it went on forever.

Probably second only to Paquador in national anthems greats
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 15, 2014, 02:06:39 AM
Anyone playing the Andy Townsend drinking game - two mentions of 'in and around' within 3 minutes. Get supping.


lol. start drinking   :clap:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 15, 2014, 02:07:40 AM
It had everything blob, long intro, fast tempo, sung with gusto, crowd participation and it went on forever.

Probably second only to Paquador in national anthems greats

ah, the actual anthem. fair enough. i was majoring on the enthusiasm.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Redartin on June 15, 2014, 02:08:41 AM
Are the Uruguay's jerseys painted on?
Some of them are skin tight. No one will be pulling them.

Cheering for Uruguay in this one, think Godin is great defender.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 15, 2014, 02:13:43 AM
just for a minute there, i thought jeff stelling was coaching :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 02:16:31 AM
@Evertonian in NC (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3784) - how is the build up for the WC in the US ? Are most people really looking forward to the US playing, or is it still a minority thing?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 02:18:32 AM
I think people are watching with more mild curiosity than anything.  Most of the headlines/buzz has been mocking the coach for saying the American team can't win the tournament.

Local sports bar was pretty full for Chile/Cahill last night, and vast majority were watching that rather than golf.  That's at least something.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 02:23:52 AM
well, this game will be over quickly.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 02:27:43 AM
I think people are watching with more mild curiosity than anything.  Most of the headlines/buzz has been mocking the coach for saying the American team can't win the tournament.

Local sports bar was pretty full for Chile/Cahill last night, and vast majority were watching that rather than golf.  That's at least something.

And do the people who are following closely (yourself included) generally think you can get out of the group?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: bacon sarnie on June 15, 2014, 02:28:39 AM
Should introduce that can't make rugby tackles in the box rule in the prem.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 15, 2014, 02:35:39 AM
what's the history with campbell? offspring of some scottish buccaneer who was shagging his way around central america?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 02:36:42 AM
My workmates are looking forward to the first game Monday night. They also saw the Spain game, and were amazed at RVP's headbutt for the equalising goal.

They still laugh at me for calling it football though.

Overall, I think it's getting a lot of publicity, and every match is being screened live on ABC or ESPN.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 02:38:22 AM
My workmates are looking forward to the first game Monday night. They also saw the Spain game, and were amazed at RVP's headbutt for the equalising goal.

They still laugh at me for calling it football though.

Overall, I think it's getting a lot of publicity, and every match is being screened live on ABC or ESPN.

Is there optimism about the US's chances from the more knowledgeable fans (again yourself included)?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 02:40:30 AM
Most of the people ask me about their chances to be honest. I reply they're ranked 13th in the world but don't have that much of a chance.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 15, 2014, 02:41:04 AM
Is there optimism about the US's chances from the more knowledgeable fans (again yourself included)?

put that drink down, bd :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 02:42:35 AM
put that drink down, bd :)

:)

I know very little about the current US team blob, especially with no Donovan, that's why I'm asking really. 13th in the world is pretty impressive (for what those rankings are worth).
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 15, 2014, 02:45:19 AM
:)

I know very little about the current US team blob, especially with no Donovan, that's why I'm asking really. 13th in the world is pretty impressive (for what those rankings are worth).

likewise. i'm just being provocative, for a change...
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 02:45:57 AM
likewise. i'm just being provocative, for a change...

I am drinking though, so you were spot on ;)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 15, 2014, 02:57:48 AM
Sitting watching some of the Le Mans 24 Hours and one time World Cup winner and Man Utd goalie Fabien Barthez is driving a Ferrari. Apparently he's carved a fairly successful motorsport career after retiring from football and won the French GT Championship last season.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 15, 2014, 02:58:44 AM
so, half-time.

the more interesting time approaches...

england? italy? draw?

much as i've admired pirlo, surely his pension looms. the remainder?

i'll go england, 2-1

just seen pics of the pitch. fucking hell   shakeyheadman
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 03:12:16 AM
And do the people who are following closely (yourself included) generally think you can get out of the group?

No.  Ghana was the last straw.  I could see the US getting lucky once (kinda the US team's specialty), but not twice.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 15, 2014, 03:13:47 AM
lol. go costa rica   :woohoo:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Mr. Devil on June 15, 2014, 03:14:01 AM
Get in. Fighting Oviedos have scored :-)

Almost forgot...

USA USA USA
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 03:15:23 AM
Get in. Fighting Oviedos have scored :-)

Damn kids had me watching something else at the half and I missed it.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 15, 2014, 03:17:02 AM
fuck me!! 2-1!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 03:17:05 AM
GET IN!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Mr. Devil on June 15, 2014, 03:17:30 AM
2-1 now. Lolol

Go Oviedos Go.

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 15, 2014, 03:17:57 AM
Come on my beauties
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Mr. Devil on June 15, 2014, 03:19:31 AM
Put Suarez on. No I really don't wish him well :snigger:

USA USA USA
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 03:19:36 AM
The Everton spirit is still with those Fightin' Oviedos.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Mayor Farnum on June 15, 2014, 03:20:05 AM
That Uruguay center back that looks like Kim Hughes, I've seen him have shit games before. Anyone know his club side?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 03:20:31 AM
Come on my beauties

Miss Costa Rica is your best bird yet, and that's saying something.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 03:20:57 AM
Uruguay is today's Spain.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 03:22:29 AM
That Uruguay center back that looks like Kim Hughes, I've seen him have shit games before. Anyone know his club side?

Godin plays for Atletico, Lugano was released by West Brom and hasn't got a team at the moment. (not sure what Kim Hughes looks like)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: theshred on June 15, 2014, 03:23:58 AM
That Uruguay center back that looks like Kim Hughes, I've seen him have shit games before. Anyone know his club side?

No club at the moment. Played at West Brom last year, scored against us. They let him go right after the season.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 03:24:11 AM
Do it for Bryan! Come on Costa Rica
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Mayor Farnum on June 15, 2014, 03:24:46 AM
Godin plays for Atletico, Lugano was released by West Brom and hasn't got a team at the moment. (not sure what Kim Hughes looks like)
West Brom. Thanks
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 03:25:14 AM
I'd like some of whatever these guys took at halftime.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 03:26:25 AM
On paper you'd say Uruguay would stroll it, but who knows? Costa Rica might not be the absolute whipping boys that people are assuming. It's not inconceivable that they could upset one of the other three teams and get a point in one of the games.


Can I claim a 'called it' for this?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cuttyblue on June 15, 2014, 03:26:41 AM
Who will Golden Dawn blame for this result?

We get it ENC, you're left wing and want all to know "not that kind of American"
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 15, 2014, 03:30:09 AM
Can I claim a 'called it' for this?

not until they're drawing (which i hope they're not) :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 03:30:47 AM
West Brom. Thanks

He was appallingly shite against us then popped up with a goal. He used to be quite decent, but now he's woeful
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cuttyblue on June 15, 2014, 03:31:16 AM
I think people are watching with more mild curiosity than anything.  Most of the headlines/buzz has been mocking the coach for saying the American team can't win the tournament.

Local sports bar was pretty full for Chile/Cahill last night, and vast majority were watching that rather than golf.  That's at least something.

Slowly, surely, more interest every 4 years. 12 yrs ago it would not be on all the bar tvs.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 03:44:00 AM
Wow.

3-1
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 03:44:05 AM
Ha!  Yes, I will take a FO third, thanks.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 15, 2014, 03:44:12 AM
hope i don't put the mockers on them, but its...

lol, stopped me in my tracks. no danger now :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 15, 2014, 03:45:16 AM
Boooom
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 03:45:23 AM
Costs Rica will fancy qualifying now, nevermind pulling off a one off shock.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 03:45:40 AM
They've shown an amazing amount of skill on the two goals I've seen.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Mr. Devil on June 15, 2014, 03:46:19 AM
This is taking the piss now.

USA USA USA
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: bacon sarnie on June 15, 2014, 03:46:50 AM
Uruguay are shite.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cuttyblue on June 15, 2014, 03:47:07 AM
What a World Cup it's been so far, best start in years.

What do all you English think about this potential result?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 03:47:43 AM
hahahahaha, fuck you, Suarez.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 03:48:27 AM
I'll even be nice and pull for England tonight.  Because fuck Italy.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 03:49:44 AM
Great atmosphere.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 15, 2014, 03:50:09 AM
5 minutes?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 03:50:28 AM
5 minutes?? Still, only delaying the inevitable.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 15, 2014, 03:51:28 AM
COME ON ENGLANDDDDD
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 15, 2014, 03:52:17 AM
three days into the tournament and we're two pages away from beating the whole of the last World Cup's thread...

No wonder, there's been more entertainment in 3 days than there was in 4 weeks in South Africa and not a vuvuzela in sight which helps.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 03:52:20 AM
Great result for us that.

Joel Campbell looks some player. Only seen him play twice, but he's been quality in both games
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 03:53:38 AM
No wonder, there's been more entertainment in 3 days than there was in 4 weeks in South Africa and not a vuvuzela in sight which helps.

I only wish I could "like" this twice.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Mr. Devil on June 15, 2014, 03:54:12 AM
No Pereira v England.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 15, 2014, 03:54:33 AM
Joel Cambell is world class
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Mr. Devil on June 15, 2014, 03:55:11 AM
I only wish I could "like" this twice.

Liked it for you :wink:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 04:05:15 AM
Italy: Sirigu, Chiellini, Darmian, Candreva, Marchisio, Balotelli, Barzagli, De Rossi, Paletta, Pirlo (c), Verratti
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 04:07:35 AM
England:

Hart, Johnson, Jagielka, Cahill, Baines, Gerrard, Henderson, Welbeck, Sterling, Rooney, Sturridge
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 04:08:25 AM
BBC have Rooney left with Sterling down the middle and Welbeck on the right.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 04:08:34 AM
England:

Hart, Johnson, Jagielka, Cahill, Baines, Gerrard, Henderson, Welbeck, Sterling, Rooney, Sturridge

Could be bollocks but BBC has England lining up with Sterling as No. 10, Rooney on the left and Wellbeck on the right.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 04:11:02 AM
Italy: Sirigu, Chiellini, Darmian, Candreva, Marchisio, Balotelli, Barzagli, De Rossi, Paletta, Pirlo (c), Verratti

I can't make sense of how they're gonna line up. Weird line up
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on June 15, 2014, 04:13:09 AM
BBC have Rooney left with Sterling down the middle and Welbeck on the right.

I suspect they're talking bollocks!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 04:13:43 AM
I can't make sense of how they're gonna line up. Weird line up

ITV and Cannavaro had it 4-3-3/4-5-1

                        Sirigu

Darmian   Paletta     Barzagli    Chiellini
                   
           Pirlo     De Rossi   Verratti

Marchisio                                     Candreva
                        Balotelli
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 04:14:36 AM
ITV and Cannavaro had it 4-3-3/4-5-1

                        Sirigu

Darmian   Paletta     Barzagli    Chiellini
                   
           Pirlo     De Rossi   Verratti

Marchisio                                     Candreva
                        Balotelli

March idiot out wide is awfully negative.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 04:16:29 AM
March idiot out wide is awfully negative.

Maybe they're worried about Baines. Does seem odd. Cannavaro actually singled him out as the player to watch, with Pirlo pinging balls out wide to him.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 04:20:08 AM
Maybe they're worried about Baines. Does seem odd. Cannavaro actually singled him out as the player to watch, with Pirlo pinging balls out wide to him.

Fair play. I suspect he'll probably know more than me like
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 04:21:55 AM
Go Bainesy and Jags!  Boo for no Ross Barkley.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 04:21:58 AM
Fair play. I suspect he'll probably know more than me like

I bet it's wrong anyway. I wouldn't trust a company that employs Chiles to be able to second guess Prandelli.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 04:25:31 AM
Is there optimism about the US's chances from the more knowledgeable fans (again yourself included)?

My step daughter told me her history teacher let them watch part of the Mexico game, so he's doing his bit to evangelise the game over here.

It is weird, because the majority of kids play, yet when they get into their teens, they turn to American sports.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 04:29:56 AM
My step daughter told me her history teacher let them watch part of the Mexico game, so he's doing his bit to evangelise the game over here.

It is weird, because the majority of kids play, yet when they get into their teens, they turn to American sports.

I'm cautiously optimistic that the excellent NBC coverage of the Prem will make a real difference.  Right now, I think American kids grow up thinking "fun to play, meh to watch" (like tennis).  But, much like tennis, football played at the highest level is quite beautiful to watch.

The Prem also has the advantages of most gametimes not conflicting with NFL or college football kickoffs.  It's perfect for the American sports junkie, really.

Every American I talk to about the Prem absolutely LOVES the promotion/relegation concept.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 04:33:16 AM
I'm cautiously optimistic that the excellent NBC coverage of the Prem will make a real difference.  Right now, I think American kids grow up thinking "fun to play, meh to watch" (like tennis).  But, much like tennis, football played at the highest level is quite beautiful to watch.

The Prem also has the advantages of most gametimes not conflicting with NFL or college football kickoffs.  It's perfect for the American sports junkie, really.

Every American I talk to about the Prem absolutely LOVES the promotion/relegation concept.

Thing is, do we want the US to take that much of an interest? They might want to control the rules more. And they certainly have the resources to become the best in the world too.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Heisenberg on June 15, 2014, 04:33:43 AM
If youre not even going to play Rooney as the number 10. Ross really should be starting. It makes no sense
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 04:36:43 AM
Thing is, do we want the US to take that much of an interest? They might want to control the rules more. And they certainly have the resources to become the best in the world too.

I'm thinking American viewers just take a rooting interest in the Prem, not try to compete with it via a higher-profile domestic league.  I don't think the US can compete there.

Plus, you couldn't establish a legit top-flight professional league and play the games at 7:30 and 10 am like the time-shifted Premiership games kickoff in US Eastern Standard Time.

That's the key - competing with college football and the NFL is a fool's errand.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 04:37:33 AM
Oh fuck off Danny murphy
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 15, 2014, 04:47:15 AM
My step daughter told me her history teacher let them watch part of the Mexico game, so he's doing his bit to evangelise the game over here.

It is weird, because the majority of kids play, yet when they get into their teens, they turn to American sports.

I've heard that before, apparently "soccer" is massively popular at school level but the kids soon grow into American sports, also from a career point of view there's far more money to be made on their home sports than in football so again, any decent sportsman will tend to move away from football.

I was also a bit harsh when I said that the USA had had the World Cup and Beckham and still they didn't get the game. It turns out that USA94 had the highest average attendance of a World Cup, something like 68k average per game which is about 18k more than the next highest and they still hold the highest total attendance despite the change in format at the next World Cup. So it seems that although the MLS isn't the greatest standard there's plenty people in America want to watch decent football.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 04:49:29 AM
Good news, guys.  Roberto just picked England to win tonight.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: macko on June 15, 2014, 04:49:39 AM
All together now-"He's going home.He's going home.he's going.Rat-face is going home."The wall pushers wasted their money on those Uraguay shirts,twats. lolol lolol lolol lolol lolol
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 04:50:22 AM
I've heard that before, apparently "soccer" is massively popular at school level but the kids soon grow into American sports, also from a career point of view there's far more money to be made on their home sports than in football so again, any decent sportsman will tend to move away from football.

I was also a bit harsh when I said that the USA had had the World Cup and Beckham and still they didn't get the game. It turns out that USA94 had the highest average attendance of a World Cup, something like 68k average per game which is about 18k more than the next highest and they still hold the highest total attendance despite the change in format at the next World Cup. So it seems that although the MLS isn't the greatest standard there's plenty people in America want to watch decent football.

One of my wife's besties played 5 a side in her youth. She even understands the offside rule.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 15, 2014, 04:52:42 AM
One of my wife's besties played 5 a side in her youth. She even understands the offside rule.

Aren't the USA Women's team far and away the best female team in the world? I'm sure they've won the World Cup a few times?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 15, 2014, 04:54:01 AM
How can Steven Gerrard be an inspirational captain, whenever you see him interviewed he has to be the dullest, most boring prick you can ever have the misfortune of listening to.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 04:54:08 AM
Aren't the USA Women's team far and away the best female team in the world? I'm sure they've won the World Cup a few times?

Not sure they've won it, but I think they got beat in the final of the last world cup by Germany I think.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 15, 2014, 04:56:26 AM
Well if nothing else, they've won the award for the least passionate national anthem hands down, although Italy are giving them a close run for it. :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 04:58:56 AM
Come on Lions Roooooar!




forza Italy  for the sweep
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Mr. Devil on June 15, 2014, 04:59:28 AM
Well Gerrard just got outbearded by Pirlo there.


USA USA USA
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 04:59:57 AM
Well if nothing else, they've won the award for the least passionate national anthem hands down, although Italy are giving them a close run for it. :)

Wait for the second and third verse...
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 05:00:53 AM
Good luck England.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 05:01:23 AM
It's all Italy at the moment ;)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 05:03:14 AM
Losing the Italians in the blue sideboards
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 05:03:47 AM
Fwoah
Thought it was in
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Mr. Devil on June 15, 2014, 05:04:49 AM
Wow I went from OMFG to you useless redshite cunt. I love football.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 05:05:14 AM
Ooooh
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 05:07:18 AM
Someone's turned Phil Neville's mic right up to fall bore ffs
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 05:10:03 AM
They're pushing Baines back with their runs down the right.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Heisenberg on June 15, 2014, 05:11:45 AM
They're pushing Baines back with their runs down the right.

Rooneys offering him 0 protection
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 05:13:43 AM
Sturridge passes even less than Kid Barca, eh?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 05:14:24 AM
Rooneys offering him 0 protection

Ross would've
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 05:14:54 AM
England don't want to be chasing - Italians crisp passing.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 15, 2014, 05:14:56 AM
Someone's turned Phil Neville's mic right up to fall bore ffs

Thankfully someone's told him you don't actually need it shoved in your mouth for it to work.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 05:15:52 AM
Henderson's been class so far.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Heisenberg on June 15, 2014, 05:16:10 AM
England seem abit hit and hope.

Also, Rooney looks positionally awful in a team that isnt set up around him
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 05:17:20 AM
Thankfully someone's told him you don't actually need it shoved in your mouth for it to work.

I've had to explain this a few times to girlfriends in my time
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 05:17:38 AM
England seem abit hit and hope.

Also, Rooney looks positionally awful in a team that isnt set up around him

Maybe I'm biased because I don't like the guy...but he's never struck me as a good "team" player.  Very "me first" attitude.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 05:17:53 AM
Italy a lot of possession but not a lot of end product.  England look good when they've got the ball.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 15, 2014, 05:20:01 AM
Rooney is completely out of the game on the left. Need him in the middle.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 05:20:09 AM
England seem abit hit and hope.

Also, Rooney looks positionally awful in a team that isnt set up around him

I'm sensing you're not a fan of Rooney starting? Not like you're mentioning him in every fucking post

;)

Should be in the middle though.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 05:20:13 AM

Maybe I'm biased because I don't like the guy...but he's never struck me as a good "team" player.  Very "me first" attitude.
True, but you've probably gotta be - read Ballotelli and 'Zlatan'

He's now switched flanks.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: bluestevie on June 15, 2014, 05:20:19 AM
Solid start from England, 3-4 decent chances already. Hart's only had that one bit of panic so far which is a good sign
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 05:21:06 AM

Rooney is completely out of the game on the left. Need him in the middle.
Definitely
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 15, 2014, 05:21:25 AM
Joe harts buffont haircut makes him look like Beavis.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 05:21:53 AM
Henderson going well
Title: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 05:22:19 AM
Joe harts buffont haircut makes him look like Beavis.
lol that's what I was thinking! As long as Baines ain't buthead.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 15, 2014, 05:23:06 AM
Henderson going well
Aye

I'd bin Gerrard and stick Wilshire with him.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 05:23:24 AM
Ooooooooh
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Heisenberg on June 15, 2014, 05:23:27 AM
woy moved him
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 05:24:31 AM

Aye

I'd bin Gerrard and stick Wilshire with him.
Yep Gerrard and Rooney have been a bit crap so far. Bainesy set piece....
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 05:25:16 AM
Baines taking the corner?  Has Hodgson never seen Everton play??
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 15, 2014, 05:25:40 AM
lol that's what I was thinking! As long as Baines ain't buthead.

Gerrard is butthead.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 05:25:55 AM
Welbeck looks pretty good.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 05:26:19 AM
The Italian commentator in Martin Tyler's background is flipping annoying.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 05:27:10 AM
The Italian commentator in Martin Tyler's background is flipping annoying.

We have Steve McManaman commentating over here.
Title: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 05:27:46 AM
It's all long shots at the moment.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 05:28:05 AM
It's quite clear that Rooney has no idea what he should be doing when Italy have got the ball.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 05:28:44 AM

We have Steve McManaman commentating over here.
is he any good - never heard him commentate?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 05:29:17 AM
Is Gerrard injured? He's done fuck all but wonder round like a pissed up tramp
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 05:29:51 AM
is he any good - never heard him commentate?

No complaints on my end.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 05:29:53 AM
Rooney has contributed very little so far. It looks like the younger players are coping better with the conditions...not unexpectedly.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 15, 2014, 05:30:28 AM
Is Gerrard injured? He's done fuck all but wonder round like a pissed up tramp

That's unfair on tramps.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 05:30:35 AM
is he any good - never heard him commentate?

He's co-commentator. He's not bad, but playing it safe with his comments.

Someone called Ian Darke is the main commentator.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 15, 2014, 05:31:45 AM
Neville's commentary is insightful but boring as fook. He is so monotone.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 05:31:55 AM
Rooney or Sturbridge. Not both.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 05:32:15 AM
He's co-commentator. He's not bad, but playing it safe with his comments.

Wisely letting Ian Darke take the lead.

I will do my patented thing and say Ross for over-the-hill Rooney at the half.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 05:33:13 AM
Someone needs to have a word with Neville here. He's sending the nation to sleep
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 05:33:18 AM
All I can say so far for Gerrard is he does whip in a mean corner still.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 05:33:37 AM
Just realised most of my wife's family are Italian descent. They will all be claiming to be Italian if England lose tonight.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 05:34:12 AM
Done bainesy
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 05:34:16 AM
Nice reaction by  Bainesy
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 05:34:25 AM
Shit
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 05:34:30 AM
Arse.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 05:34:36 AM
Shit!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 05:34:49 AM
FFS
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 05:35:19 AM
Brilliant technique with the roll into his stride and arrow into the corner.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 05:35:33 AM
Very poor by Sturridge
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 05:36:18 AM
Grim. Don't think 'it was coming' though. We're well in this, Rooney out wide isn't working.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: bluestevie on June 15, 2014, 05:36:25 AM
Preventable, Rooney shouldn't have left Bainesy covering his arse which led to the corner. Still think we'll get something here though
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 05:36:59 AM
Poor by Rooney who blocked harts view


Yes!!!!!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 05:37:04 AM
Get in!!!!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 05:37:07 AM
Class from Sterling and Rooney, pure class.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 05:37:23 AM
Nice response!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 05:37:27 AM
Grim. Don't think 'it was coming' though. We're well in this, Rooney out wide isn't working.

Called it
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 05:37:44 AM
Thank fuck for that
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 05:37:57 AM
Good cross by Rooney. Nice pass from Sterling too.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 05:38:53 AM
What a fucking ball by Rooney though
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 05:39:04 AM
Henderson the thick cunts just tackled the physio
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: bluestevie on June 15, 2014, 05:39:36 AM
Fucking brilliant team goal that, now lets push on here
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 05:40:11 AM
What a fucking ball by Rooney though

credit where credit's due!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 15, 2014, 05:41:40 AM
Well that's the physio out the way, broken ankle apparently.

Great ball from Sterling and Rooney and a great finish from Sturridge.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 05:43:11 AM
No matter how class Rooney's assist was (and it really was), he's going to cost us the game if he carries on with this half arsed effort supporting Baines.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 15, 2014, 05:44:08 AM
Welbeck a work rate is superb.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 05:45:28 AM
No matter how class Rooney's assist was (and it really was), he's going to cost us the game if he carries on with this half arsed effort supporting Baines.

It's not that he's half assed, he's tracking back as much as he can, it's just were 3v2 out there. They're targeting Baines and it's working for them. Think Gerrard or Henderson have to help out more with that problem
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 05:46:06 AM
Compare it to the other side of the pitch, where Johnson has got a centre half running at him, and no overlapping player, and he's still getting more support from Wellbeck.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 05:46:45 AM

No matter how class Rooney's assist was (and it really was), he's going to cost us the game if he carries on with this half arsed effort supporting Baines.

Get Gerrard off!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 05:47:05 AM
JAGS!!!!!!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 05:47:16 AM
Great from Jags
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 05:47:38 AM
We'll done Jags!!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Heisenberg on June 15, 2014, 05:48:49 AM
Bit harsh on henderson that ram, I think he's been one of englands better players. Gerrard is done though, not a DM, Pirlo has done him up like a kipper.They're walking through the centre
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 05:48:49 AM
The more I see how Welbeck works, the more intrigued I'd be to have him at Everton.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 05:48:54 AM
Get Gerrard off!

Off??

Fuck I was hoping they'd bring him on at half time!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 15, 2014, 05:49:07 AM
THATS why he plays for England! He is the best English defender by a long way.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 05:49:44 AM
Super Jags :)

What was Hart doing there? He just stopped.

Definitely need to look at that left side. I doubt Hodgson would sub Gerrard though, but he's not doing much out there.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: bluestevie on June 15, 2014, 05:50:01 AM
Great first half, excellent performance from England, it's there for us to win second half. Hart's gotta cut out the rush of bloods here though, Jags bailed him out big time
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 05:50:20 AM
THATS why he plays for England! He is the best English defender by a long way.

He should be captain, in my view.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 05:53:18 AM

Off??

Fuck I was hoping they'd bring him on at half time!
Fucking lol!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 05:53:24 AM
If we're not going to take Rooney off, then maybe we have to leave Wellbeck on the left and Rooney or Sterling over to the right. The Italians aren't attacking at all down their left, so Rooney could work better there, and Wellbeck would do the defensive work to support Baines on our left.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 05:53:49 AM
Roberto rightly gushing about Jagielka, saying that play epitomizes what he's all about.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 05:53:59 AM
lol host on ESPN says, great header away by Jageilka. Now who coaches that player. Camera pans onto Bobby :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 05:58:39 AM
If the same team comes out after half time you've got to hope Rooney and Sterling swap and Gerrard and Henderson switch.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 05:58:58 AM
@OliverKayTimes: Not always a fan of these stats, but if you're interested, Rooney ran 5.91km in 1st half, more than any other #ENG player. Sterling 2nd
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cassius on June 15, 2014, 05:59:19 AM
Has the BBC taken every single person on its payroll to Brasil?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 06:00:44 AM
@OliverKayTimes: Not always a fan of these stats, but if you're interested, Rooney ran 5.91km in 1st half, more than any other #ENG player. Sterling 2nd

Fair enough, maybe it's more of a positional thing. I don't think it's a coincidence that Baines, Gerrard and Henderson have all being telling Rooney that he's letting his man go over and over again.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 06:02:11 AM
Fair enough, maybe it's more of a positional thing. I don't think it's a coincidence that Baines, Gerrard and Henderson have all being telling Rooney that he's letting his man go over and over again.

Work smart, not hard. He can run all he wants, but if he's not running in the right places it's pointless.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 06:02:27 AM
Wondered how long it would take before Baines got the blame and they'd absolve Rooney/Gerrard
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 06:02:29 AM
Fair enough, maybe it's more of a positional thing. I don't think it's a coincidence that Baines, Gerrard and Henderson have all being telling Rooney that he's letting his man go over and over again.

I think it's more a case of him coming narrow when were on the ball. Rooney isn't a lazy player, but he's always going to have one mind on attacking. It is a problem though
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 06:03:46 AM
Gotta laugh at people calling for Barkley to replace Rooney. That will make the problem 10 times worse
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 06:04:22 AM
Luckily Henry just called it right, block the pass and let the defender mark the runner
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 15, 2014, 06:09:10 AM
Brilliant football.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 06:09:40 AM
As I've been saying. It wasn't a case of Rooney being lazy, the 2 midfielders have to do more
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: bluestevie on June 15, 2014, 06:10:53 AM
Again no protection for Bainesy leads to a goal, responded well again though
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 06:11:05 AM
How the fucks Cahill let Balotelli walk away from him like that?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:11:34 AM
Well done sterling. Has done some, well, Sterling defensive work at times.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 06:12:55 AM
Even if we're getting beat, I've enjoyed this performance more than any at Euro 2012 by some distance.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 15, 2014, 06:14:14 AM
Sterling off Barkley on.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Heisenberg on June 15, 2014, 06:14:16 AM
I actually think Englands defence has been alright. Its attack after attack, eventually a mistake will be made. They're literally strolling through the midfield. Gerrards been shown up here
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:14:26 AM
Mrs Cods says Baines needs a Pienaar in front of him.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 06:15:08 AM
Dang, Gerrard can't even do his starfish dive right.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:15:56 AM
No starfish from Gerrard?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 06:15:58 AM
Could be made for Barkley.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:16:07 AM
Lol
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:17:05 AM

Could be made for Barkley.
with Motta on I think that is a good call.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:17:17 AM
Warming up :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 06:17:49 AM
I'd take Strurridge off and push Rooney up and bring Barkley on soon
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 06:17:56 AM
Sterling has done well you have to say. One of the bright spots.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 06:18:55 AM
Eesh that was close.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 06:19:46 AM
Brave sub
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 06:19:49 AM
Welbeck off. Barkley on.

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 06:20:04 AM
Come on Ross!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cuttyblue on June 15, 2014, 06:20:13 AM
Come on Ross... Do it!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 06:20:24 AM
Brave sub

Agree. Although it'd be a whole lot braver to take Gerrard off.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 15, 2014, 06:20:43 AM
Cometh the hour cometh the legend!

Arise Sir Ross lol!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:20:45 AM

Lol
bastardo!!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 06:20:49 AM
Oh Rooney
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 06:20:58 AM
Got butterflies watching Ross come on.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 06:20:59 AM
Rooney you plonker!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cuttyblue on June 15, 2014, 06:21:29 AM
Bad miss Rooney.

England look like scoring!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 06:21:56 AM
Might want to put Wilshire on for Gerrard.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:22:09 AM
C'mon ross
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: bluestevie on June 15, 2014, 06:23:04 AM
Brilliant effort from Ross there
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 15, 2014, 06:23:28 AM
Ooofff scuffed it a bit.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 06:23:40 AM
The 2 in midfield have been dreadful
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:24:27 AM

Might want to put Wilshire on for Gerrard.
rooney has to go up top
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 06:24:52 AM
Might want to put Wilshire on for Gerrard.

He's been truly atrocious, without redshite biased kicking in either
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:27:13 AM
Baines always has two against him.

I know he's good but really.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:28:03 AM
Get up ya prick
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 15, 2014, 06:28:15 AM
The ref has been superb tonight. Hardly noticed him.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:29:46 AM
Shit
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 06:30:16 AM
He's been truly atrocious, without redshite biased kicking in either

The reality vs. the myth of Gerrard has been well-demonstrated tonight.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 06:30:20 AM
That Italian left back needs to have a word with Rooney's barber
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:30:21 AM

The ref has been superb tonight. Hardly noticed him.
The players have made it easy for him though.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 06:30:51 AM
The ref has been superb tonight. Hardly noticed him.

Best compliment you can give an official.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:31:50 AM
Why don't take off Gerrard???
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 06:32:00 AM
Roy's bottled it there
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cuttyblue on June 15, 2014, 06:32:08 AM
Whatever the result, I haven't seen England attack like this before. Certainly improved there.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 15, 2014, 06:32:11 AM
Henderson off despite being far better than Captain Bellend has been all night.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 06:32:21 AM
Still Gerrard stays on. Undroppable :(
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 06:32:40 AM
Gone very flat. England need to up things.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 06:33:38 AM
We are attacking really slowly which seems to be playing into their hands.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 15, 2014, 06:33:44 AM
Commentator, "Gerrard's gone long" sums the cunt up really.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:33:52 AM
Cross it in to Ross. He's been trained by Ferguson!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 06:34:20 AM
Baines free kick special please.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 06:34:34 AM
Baines from here?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 15, 2014, 06:35:01 AM
C'mon bainesy lad
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:35:38 AM
Hmmm
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 06:35:50 AM
WTF Rooney.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 15, 2014, 06:35:50 AM
WORST

CORNER

EVER!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 06:35:57 AM
'The turf gave way'. Fuck off Phil.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 06:36:04 AM
Fucking hell Rooney. Having a mare.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: bluestevie on June 15, 2014, 06:36:25 AM
Gerrard needs to come off here, keeps pulling up
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:37:09 AM
Jesus
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 06:37:35 AM
Surprised Lambert didn't get a look in here.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:38:01 AM

'The turf gave way'. Fuck off Phil.
He's probably right though.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 06:38:26 AM
There is no way Rooney or Gerrard should play for 90 mins in this.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:38:48 AM
Get it to Ross
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 06:38:53 AM
Barkley hasn't really had a sniff has he.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 15, 2014, 06:39:29 AM
Glen Johnson is shite.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 06:39:42 AM
There is no way Rooney or Gerrard should play for 90 mins in this.

But, but...Sky Four!!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:39:59 AM
Jesus the pitch must be shit. Keepers just slapped it straight out.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:40:57 AM
England is all over the place, no shape.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 06:42:17 AM
It's going to have to be a set piece or something special to get another. We look out of ideas, and everything has reduced to a snails pace.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:43:02 AM

Jesus the pitch must be shit. Keepers just slapped it straight out.
cmon Rooney. Top corner
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 06:43:28 AM
This spray idea is really good.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:43:32 AM
Apologies. Not sure why I seem to be random quoting.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 06:44:23 AM
Wanted his glory moment. Stupid, selfish cunt
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 06:44:34 AM
set piece, wasted on fucking Gerrard
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 15, 2014, 06:45:17 AM
Gerrard looking like he did early season when he thought there was nothing to play for, been absolutely awful. He needs an adrenalin buzz to work off and doesn't get it with England, he's gone, finished, over the hill, give it up stop playing the hero and fuck off.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: bluestevie on June 15, 2014, 06:45:19 AM
Conditions starting to take effect now, must be stifling to play in
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 15, 2014, 06:45:20 AM
This spray idea is really good.

Yeah hopefully someone will spray it on Gerrard and he'll disappear forever.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 06:45:46 AM
Rooney is aaaarghgh sdfoksdfo kdsjfdsf
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 06:46:01 AM
Barkley been anonymous since after his first 5 mins, been given no service at all.

Unfortunately he's just not a impact player, he needs time to grow through a game.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cuttyblue on June 15, 2014, 06:46:04 AM
Rooney, Gerrard and Johnson have been woeful, bah
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 15, 2014, 06:46:33 AM
Having said all that, England deserve to get something from this.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:47:06 AM
Gerard's so slow it gives Italy time to shift. Had he been awake he could have got it to Baines.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:49:03 AM

Barkley been anonymous since after his first 5 mins, been given no service at all.

Unfortunately he's just not a impact player, he needs time to grow through a game.
agree with that,
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: bluestevie on June 15, 2014, 06:49:16 AM
Sterling's MOTM for England without question
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 06:49:50 AM
Sterling's MOTM for England without question

Except he can't shoot.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Heisenberg on June 15, 2014, 06:50:02 AM
Wasnt overly sold with lallana in the friendlies. But he makes the team alot more balanced
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:50:39 AM

Sterling's MOTM for England without question
how is that a yellow?.?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 15, 2014, 06:51:22 AM
Except he can't shoot.

He's great at running really fast though.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Heisenberg on June 15, 2014, 06:51:28 AM
I think jags and cahill have been pretty good too. I think Johnsons improved alot this game too
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 06:52:46 AM
That was a fantastic free kick from Pirlo.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:54:08 AM
Captain disinterested has been a major reason England has lost this.

Hart completely wrong footed by the master.

We'll done Cahill.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 06:55:02 AM
Very hard chasing a game against Italy in those conditions. For all Roy's expertise at setting up a team without the ball, he was completely outfoxed by Prandelli playing an out and out winger hugging the touchline, and an attacking full back in support.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cuttyblue on June 15, 2014, 06:55:17 AM
Ah well chin up lads, should have more than enough for Costa Rica and Uruguay.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 06:55:20 AM
I would say Gerrard's international career is finished with that game.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 06:55:33 AM
I think jags and cahill have been pretty good too. I think Johnsons improved alot this game too
I think jags and cahill have been pretty good too. I think Johnsons improved alot this game too
I think jags and cahill have been pretty good too. I think Johnsons improved alot this game too

Agreed. Johnson was surprisingly good.

Don't deserve to lose that. Can feel a meltdown coming though
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: bluestevie on June 15, 2014, 06:55:38 AM
Harsh result, think we deserved a point there, certainly fancy us to get something on Thursday now
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 06:55:42 AM
F.

England were playing well until the that 2nd goal. Then Rooney missed the best chance by a mile and we didn't really have enough sniff.

Gerrard and Rooney...how did they not get subbed?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 06:56:14 AM
Prandelli had Hodgson off.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gumpinio on June 15, 2014, 06:56:25 AM
Rooney, Gerrard and Johnson have been woeful, bah

And no matter how badly they play they will never be dropped  :titanic:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 15, 2014, 06:57:38 AM
Glen Johnson is the worst player I've ever seen.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 06:59:14 AM
Rooney should play, but only up top.  And subbed for Sturbridge on 60. 
Gerrard shouldn't play.
Ross has to be number ten with Welbeck and Sterling on either side.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: bluestevie on June 15, 2014, 06:59:27 AM
Johnson and the whole back line had a decent game, in fact everyone did bar Rooney, Hart and Gerrard
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Heisenberg on June 15, 2014, 07:00:23 AM
Glen Johnson is the worst player I've ever seen.

Lots of people saying this on twitter. I really dont know where its came from though. He was okay today

Scapegoat? Suppose id rather it be him than baines
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 07:00:28 AM
Can't see the Sterling love.

Not just tonight he had a decent game better than most, but overall his games built on nothing but speed and head down beat the man in front of you. At least Ox and Barkley have more refinement, subtlety, skill and game savvy.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 15, 2014, 07:01:14 AM
England deserved something from that, we'll see how big Roy's bollocks are after this. Rooney and Gerrard were poor, you can argue Rooney wasn't playing his favoured position but Gerrard was terrible and that was the way he played early season. He got a lift thinking they were going to win the league, but without that buzz it's clear to see he's passed it at this level.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 07:01:24 AM
Can't see the Sterling love.

Not just tonight he had a decent game better than most, but overall his games built on nothing but speed and head down beat the man in front of you. At least Ox and Barkley have more refinement, subtlety, skill and game savvy.

What a load of drivel.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: D.B Cooper on June 15, 2014, 07:02:34 AM
Rooney apart from assist was poor. Gerrard is a self-serving glory seeking twat. offered nothing all night, only noticeable at freekicks trying to get his fucking ugly mug  plastered over papers in morning. Sterling looked lively though.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 07:02:40 AM
Apart from his crossing Johnson was alright. Could he have helped for that second goal? Haven't seen a replay.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 07:06:02 AM
Ballack saying Gerrard was poor on the ESPN coverage.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: bluestevie on June 15, 2014, 07:12:07 AM
Ballack's not wrong there like
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 07:13:31 AM
(http://cdn29.elitedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/kristin-wig-drunk-gif.gifw870.gif)

 lolol
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blueToffee on June 15, 2014, 07:13:58 AM
Just turned on Talksport to hear some idiot saying Jagielka and Baines not good enough.

Shouldn't have bothered.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 15, 2014, 07:16:04 AM
Pirlo is just class. More game time for Ross against Uruguay please. Rooney looks so jaded now
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 07:20:14 AM
Think we need Lallana on the left to help Baines. Barkley in place of Gerrard with Henderson his partner. Think Ross could do quite well there coming from deep.

Something like this

     Henderson Barkley

Wellbeck Rooney Lallana

           Sturridge
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 07:22:48 AM
Gareth Barry to replace Gerrard as a DM please.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Gash on June 15, 2014, 07:22:54 AM
Have you been hurt in work in an accident that wasn't you're fault?

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t1.0-9/10393575_10153082632414657_2614637791783134424_n.jpg)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 07:24:40 AM

Have you been hurt in work in an accident that wasn't you're fault?

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t1.0-9/10393575_10153082632414657_2614637791783134424_n.jpg)
lol
But hope he gets better. They were saying it was a dislocation not a break?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 07:27:12 AM
Going to start a club called Everton de Brasilia and hire the unused Manaus stadium and use it as a feeder club.
So who's backing me?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Simon Paul on June 15, 2014, 07:27:35 AM
Rooney let England and Baines down there, no covering whatsoever even though I'd say Darmian was their man of the match

Pirlo was a joy to watch as always, but wish 10 kids and token would fuck off going for glory
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Redartin on June 15, 2014, 07:29:11 AM
You have to remember Rooney is playing out of position - he does not belong out on the left - a lot of people seem to ignore this fact. After all Pirlo would not have been as effective for Italy if he had been played out on the left.

IMO Italy used the conditions better, they used possession better, made England work harder and tired them out. It was significant that not one Italian suffered from cramp compared to England.

Biggest weak link definitely Gerrard. Great match.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 07:32:06 AM
Dunno if I can be assed with this England lark. It's too much stress right after a season supporting Everton
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 15, 2014, 07:33:50 AM
England deserved something from that, we'll see how big Roy's bollocks are after this. Rooney and Gerrard were poor, you can argue Rooney wasn't playing his favoured position but Gerrard was terrible and that was the way he played early season. He got a lift thinking they were going to win the league, but without that buzz it's clear to see he's passed it at this level.

An acute observation Gash.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 07:36:18 AM
Thought we played quite well. People make too much of these defeats, se positives to be took from that game
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Amata on June 15, 2014, 07:36:23 AM
Some positives but the whole Rooney thing is square pegs. Roy is playing him because he CAN be quality and he's is our top scorer but there is no denying he's been poor of late.  If Roy prefers Sturridge upfront and Sterling through the middle then Rooney has to be dropped as its affecting the balance of the team.

Feel for poor Baines though, has got a few bad post match ratings from journo's who all agree he was terribly exposed then go on to give him a 5! Not even Ashley Cole can mark 2 men at the same time.  We know who the whipping boy is now anyway.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 15, 2014, 07:36:35 AM
Lots of people saying this on twitter. I really dont know where its came from though. He was okay today

Scapegoat? Suppose id rather it be him than baines

Ran into his player every time, stupid shots, gave the ball away most time he had it. Not bothered about scapegoats he is just fucking awful.

Sterling was fantastic tonight.
Title: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on June 15, 2014, 07:38:30 AM
Decent enough performance but nowhere near good enough to take anything other than a draw against a top team.
Roy needs to sort the balance out, it's all down the right hand side. Gerrard is too slow and Rooney, for all his huffing and puffing, is looking woeful.
Sterling did well, as did the back four in the main and I thought Welbeck did well too.
From an Everton perspective I think Roy has got Barkley playing sideways and he (Roy) doesn't seem to have a plan for when we need to break through a parked bus - not for the first time of late either.
We should still get through the group but need to learn how to bring a defensive unit out, stretch the play and use both sides of the pitch.

Edit - and Wilshire is fucking clueless
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on June 15, 2014, 07:41:42 AM
World cup progress aside in a tournament that lets face it England are unlikely to win, you can at least take solace that England were much better against Italy than they were 2 years ago. More shots and shots on target, possession a lot nearer to 50/50, this was a contest. Were England unlucky not to win? Not really Italy were very good and worth the win but England could have won and it wouldn't have been undeserved. A developing side it should mature over the next 4 years, Gerrard needs replacing, thats clear he was very poor tonight, a fact completely overlooked by the beeb who instead concentrated on the fact Baines seems incapable of cloning himself and marking two men at once, Rooney isn't finished yet although as you get less mobile I don't think the wing is where you should be headed, if anything I think his future for England could lie in a deeper playmaker role. Still with Costa Rica doing them a favour, I still back England to go through, diminutive south american genius with a habit of cheating aside, at least a draw against a poor Uruguay side could well be enough to set up a winner takes all final group game against Costa Rica. Anyway, off to bed, there's football on tomorrow. :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: bacon sarnie on June 15, 2014, 07:55:53 AM
Typical United/Liverpool performance that. Shame our lads had to get dragged into it. Hodgson headbanging gif needs to be resurrected.


Pirlo is still ace.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 08:00:10 AM
Ran into his player every time, stupid shots, gave the ball away most time he had it. Not bothered about scapegoats he is just fucking awful.

Sterling was fantastic tonight.

Sterling was great early on. As he tired, his shooting became erratic, and his crossing was abysmal. But he put in a lot of effort.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on June 15, 2014, 08:05:20 AM
Just realised Japan v Ivory Coast is on. Might as well see how future Everton no 9 Bony gets on.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Heisenberg on June 15, 2014, 08:05:50 AM
Ran into his player every time, stupid shots, gave the ball away most time he had it. Not bothered about scapegoats he is just fucking awful.

Sterling was fantastic tonight.

Some questionable crossing, but its not asif it was ever his strong point, not sure what game you was watching. He was actually pretty solid
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 08:07:40 AM
By  the way, Bobby was very positive after the game.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 08:08:08 AM
Itv don't have a co commentator. It's fucking awful to watch
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: bacon sarnie on June 15, 2014, 08:10:27 AM
Phil Neville match coverage was wayyyyyy better than what Baines got from Rooney & Welbeck.


Drogba on the bench........
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 08:16:44 AM
Great finish.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 08:25:25 AM
Honda is the blue samurai's Cahill.
Title: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 09:23:11 AM
Comeback !! Is on. 2 similar crosses, one far post, one near last header.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 09:24:16 AM
Another really good game.
Title: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 09:27:16 AM
Another really good game.
All teams are playing like Brazil, in Brazil.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Cods on June 15, 2014, 09:30:25 AM
I like them dragging the players off on stretchers so quickly so they don't hold up the game.
And I love the free kick disappearing spray.
Well done Brazil/FIFA/officials. 
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: keiko on June 15, 2014, 10:56:23 AM
Japan were not good, the passing wasn't good.
its not possible for japan to win hard games if theyre not at  top level,  greece is not easy for them also.  but its possible to win.
when the commentator of itv kept saying the names wrong , it was funny.

lol

i did want England to win too

oh yeah  maybe ghana will win!!!

Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Silas on June 15, 2014, 01:43:59 PM
Best I have seen England play in a tournament for a while. Going forward we looked really good and standards didn't drop when the subs came on. Defensively we sacrificed and it told in the end. I think Baines does deserve some criticism. He didn't have cover but then he's a good enough defender to realise that. Often he wasn't even marking his man.

Jagielka on the other hand was excellent last night.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: ally2 on June 15, 2014, 03:36:37 PM
Very unusual to see England play watchable football so was quite pleased with that. What is disappointing is that tactically we were done there (no surprise). The team balance was not right. Surprised really as you'd have thought Gary Neville would be on to that.

Roy is trying to play everyone and please everyone. He needs to calm down, analyse the game properly, and analyse the players form and fitness, then make some tough decisions.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Thom on June 15, 2014, 04:32:55 PM
Best I have seen England play in a tournament for a while. Going forward we looked really good and standards didn't drop when the subs came on. Defensively we sacrificed and it told in the end. I think Baines does deserve some criticism. He didn't have cover but then he's a good enough defender to realise that. Often he wasn't even marking his man.

Jagielka on the other hand was excellent last night.

There's not a lot he can do when he has a runner outside of him, as well as one running at him. There were numerous times tonight where his positioning was influenced by Darmien hugging the touchline whilst Cardreva ran at him. If Rooney had stuck to his defensive duties then Baines would have had it easier.

I was just hoping for a good match between the two last night anyway, due to being both English and Italian, and it ended up being a decent watch. I expect both will have enough to get out of the group ahead of Uruguay, even if Suaraz does play against both.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 15, 2014, 04:50:36 PM
Some questionable crossing, but its not asif it was ever his strong point, not sure what game you was watching. He was actually pretty solid

Ok your opinion, in my opinion he was terrible and a liability once again.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 15, 2014, 04:52:53 PM
That was the first England game in nigh on 18 years that I have enjoyed and wanted them to win. I even celebrated the goal like I do when Everton score. I think it's no coincidence that this is the first England squad in that time that seems to be a closer team rather than a bunch of egos thrown together. Once Gerrard and Lampard are out for good in two games time, I think the future is good for them.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Mayor Farnum on June 15, 2014, 05:37:36 PM
The pattern of the game, like all games, was influenced by the scoreline. Once they were in front Italy were content to let England have the majority of possession.
England did ok against one of the least threatening Italy teams for years.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 15, 2014, 05:45:08 PM
Wilshere coming on baffled me a bit. He missed big chunks of the season and doesnt look match fit or sharp to me. Henderson has a better engine and was doing ok imo.

Wilshere doesn't carry much attacking threat at all and his passing was sloppy and ran a few times straight into danger
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Silas on June 15, 2014, 05:50:08 PM
Won't be a popular opinion because of people's random hatred for the man but I thought Phil Neville was decent on commentary last night.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Zoolander on June 15, 2014, 05:54:34 PM

Wilshere coming on baffled me a bit. He missed big chunks of the season and doesnt look match fit or sharp to me. Henderson has a better engine and was doing ok imo.

Wilshere doesn't carry much attacking threat at all and his passing was sloppy and ran a few times straight into danger
Agree on Wilshire. He puts his head down and runs straight at three defenders. There's no excuse for that from a professional footballer tbh.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 06:06:34 PM
Won't be a popular opinion because of people's random hatred for the man but I thought Phil Neville was decent on commentary last night.

It was awful. Trotted out tired cliches, without offering any sort of insight, whilst sounding completely monotone. Even lawrenson sounds better than him.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 15, 2014, 06:08:00 PM
I had England down to surrender meekly yesterday; but their performance was probably the best I've seen under Roy. In defence they narrowed down well and kept it away from their goal, and their ball retention was twice as good as usual - but still not quite there; and they had a lot of good chances to score.

Italy got it right tactically with their asymmetric system, which was unexpected.. They're so adept with playing narrow and keeping the ball, their full backs could arrive late and pin back the English full backs. Add to that the one winger in Candreva they got a lot of joy down their right side. Candreva and Darmian were very good considering they have about 9 caps between them. They played Verratti as I expected so the formula stop Pirlo = stop Italy doesn't hold anymore.

So although England played well I still think the balance was all wrong. Rooney on the left was ludicrous and I agree with what everyone's said about Gerrard, a liability who thinks he can control a game but he can't. Roy has shown a determination to shoehorn in all his attacking weapons to the detriment of the team balance. The price paid was that England's 2 CMs couldn't offer any cover to the full backs. Baines didn't come out of it too well, but he had absolutely no cover all night and was marking two players at once. If Chiellini hadn't been playing at left back Johnson would have suffered just as badly.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 15, 2014, 06:17:37 PM
Also, re Ivory Coast - Japan,

Can we give Boubacar Barry the award for best name at the World Cup?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 06:18:43 PM
As others have said, it was alarming how obvious Italy's most penetrative tactic down the right was after 15-20 minutes of the first half, and that we couldn't effectively combat it. The two solutions that seemed obvious to me were either to swap Henderson and Gerrard's positions, so that Henderson was helping Baines out. Maybe that would've been a risk to cede even more midfield dominance, with Henderson getting pulled out to the left more.

The other possibility would've been to bring Milner on for Rooney, and ask him to do a defensive winger job on Darmian. Again Italy offered no threat down their left, and through the middle Jagielka and Cahill were dealing with the 50 yard overhead through balls easily for the most part so it might've been wise to sacrifice an attacking player to stop Italy's main threat.

Props to hill135 for highlighting Candreva as a big threat well before the game.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: ally2 on June 15, 2014, 06:25:06 PM

I had England down to surrender meekly yesterday; but their performance was probably the best I've seen under Roy. In defence they narrowed down well and kept it away from their goal, and their ball retention was twice as good as usual - but still not quite there; and they had a lot of good chances to score.

Italy got it right tactically with their asymmetric system, which was unexpected.. They're so adept with playing narrow and keeping the ball, their full backs could arrive late and pin back the English full backs. Add to that the one winger in Candreva they got a lot of joy down their right side. Candreva and Darmian were very good considering they have about 9 caps between them. They played Verratti as I expected so the formula stop Pirlo = stop Italy doesn't hold anymore.

So although England played well I still think the balance was all wrong. Rooney on the left was ludicrous and I agree with what everyone's said about Gerrard, a liability who thinks he can control a game but he can't. Roy has shown a determination to shoehorn in all his attacking weapons to the detriment of the team balance. The price paid was that England's 2 CMs couldn't offer any cover to the full backs. Baines didn't come out of it too well, but he had absolutely no cover all night and was marking two players at once. If Chiellini hadn't been playing at left back Johnson would have suffered just as badly.

I agree with this but I also have all the questions but none of the answers. I firmly believe Gerrard is hopeless but we do need two non-attacking midfielders and  Henderson can't do it all on his own. Wilshere is not the answer either.

It will never happen but I would play Milner centrally with Henderson. Milner has the sense to cover for the full back. The 3 behind Sturrridge would be Sterling, Rooney and Wellbeck. And that lot get 55 minutes against Uruguay. If they don't perform then it's all change - Rooney up front, with Lallana, Barkley and Stirling/Wellbeck.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 15, 2014, 06:32:12 PM
I agree with this but I also have all the questions but none of the answers. I firmly believe Gerrard is hopeless but we do need two non-attacking midfielders and  Henderson can't do it all on his own. Wilshere is not the answer either.

It will never happen but I would play Milner centrally with Henderson. Milner has the sense to cover for the full back. The 3 behind Sturrridge would be Sterling, Rooney and Wellbeck. And that lot get 55 minutes against Uruguay. If they don't perform then it's all change - Rooney up front, with Lallana, Barkley and Stirling/Wellbeck.

Yeah none of us are going to be applying for the England job any time soon, but it's fairly obvious that if you play two central midfielders against 4 you're going to suffer in the middle of the park.

That's why I think narrow systems are so effective if you're good at them. The only way to stop them is to adopt a narrow system yourself otherwise you'll be passed to death in the middle. But if you're no good at using a system like that or don't have much practice then there's very little you can do to stop it.

Not sure what I would do but for sure I would have Rooney as close to their goal as possible, as a number 9. Last night should be the final nail in the coffin of the myth that he's defensively disciplined. He's not.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 06:32:31 PM
I agree with this but I also have all the questions but none of the answers. I firmly believe Gerrard is hopeless but we do need two non-attacking midfielders and  Henderson can't do it all on his own. Wilshere is not the answer either.

It will never happen but I would play Milner centrally with Henderson. Milner has the sense to cover for the full back. The 3 behind Sturrridge would be Sterling, Rooney and Wellbeck. And that lot get 55 minutes against Uruguay. If they don't perform then it's all change - Rooney up front, with Lallana, Barkley and Stirling/Wellbeck.

Agree with everything here. Gerrard is never getting dropped for Milner though. I'm amazed how he's constantly exempt from criticism. He was utterly dreadful last night, yet Rooney and Baines are taking the brunt of the blame when it's Gerard's job to cover on the counter, just like Barry done all season.

Surely someone in the media can do some proper analysis of the game?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 15, 2014, 06:33:48 PM
Won't be a popular opinion because of people's random hatred for the man but I thought Phil Neville was decent on commentary last night.

Thought he was spot on and insightful. His tone of voice though is awful.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tinga on June 15, 2014, 06:36:41 PM
Thought he was spot on and insightful. His tone of voice though is awful.

He must be great reading bedtime stories though.

I actually thought England weren't that bad, I mean we are usually really awful in these tournaments but we actually looked a lot better than we usually do.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 06:38:53 PM
Apparently Neville got slaughtered on twitter. Feel a bit sorry for him tbh. I thought he made some valid points on commentary, but it was more the style of his commentary that was an issue. He spoke far too much in general, rather than letting the game breathe and interjecting at relevant times.

Still better than Lawrenson for me.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: ally2 on June 15, 2014, 06:45:15 PM
I was on holiday watching Holland vs Spain with German commentary. It's very minimal - like it used to be in the 60's. Quite enjoyed it (even though I don't understand any German at all!)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 06:50:55 PM
Neville's comments and analysis may well have been more insightful than that vast majority of the other BBC co-commentators but when you deliver it in a tone that lacks passion and conviction you're always going to lose people's interest.

It reminded me of the Father Ted Christmas special where they get lost in the lingerie section with all the priests and they get the boring one to talk on the PA to distract everyone so they can escape.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 15, 2014, 07:06:07 PM
Neville's comments and analysis may well have been more insightful than that vast majority of the other BBC co-commentators but when you deliver it in a tone that lacks passion and conviction you're always going to lose people's interest.

It reminded me of the Father Ted Christmas special where they get lost in the lingerie section with all the priests and they get the boring one to talk on the PA to distract everyone so they can escape.

The beeb have a habit of mixing a traditional commentator with an ex pro for the analysis.

ITV just pair up the biggest bunch of twats they can find.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Trowel on June 15, 2014, 07:18:52 PM
Speaking of ex-pros, fair play to Rio Ferdinand, his contributions have actually been really interesting.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: pjk on June 15, 2014, 07:22:58 PM
He must be great reading bedtime stories though.

I actually thought England weren't that bad, I mean we are usually really awful in these tournaments but we actually looked a lot better than we usually do.



There was a big problem with England last night. They got beat by the crappest Italian team in living memory. Bring on Uruguay they're tits too. As for Costa Rica! If Bryan was there I would fear for Jags and Bainseys future. Get well Bryan.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 07:23:10 PM
Speaking of ex-pros, fair play to Rio Ferdinand, his contributions have actually been really interesting.

Must be a nightmare for lip readers though.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 15, 2014, 07:24:59 PM
Must be a nightmare for lip readers though.

His top lip has a mind of its own.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tinga on June 15, 2014, 07:34:15 PM


There was a big problem with England last night. They got beat by the crappest Italian team in living memory. Bring on Uruguay they're tits too. As for Costa Rica! If Bryan was there I would fear for Jags and Bainseys future. Get well Bryan.

Crappiest Italian team? if you say so.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 07:37:27 PM
We could still go through on 4 points.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: macko on June 15, 2014, 07:56:43 PM
We could still go through on 4 points.
We've got to hammer Uruguay!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 15, 2014, 08:03:54 PM
We've got to hammer Uruguay!

No we don't. We can draw with them and probably go through with a win against Costa Rica.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 15, 2014, 08:07:59 PM
Should be looking for nothing less than 6 points.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: macko on June 15, 2014, 08:08:36 PM
No we don't. We can draw with them and probably go through with a win against Costa Rica.
Depending on what happens to them against Italy.We don't want to be going into the Costa Rica game with them only needing a draw.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 15, 2014, 08:12:33 PM
Costa Rica looked strong and confident yesterday.  I wouldn't assume any result against them, playing England OR Italy.

No fair-minded person could have watched yesterday's game and fingered the main culprit as anyone other than Gerrard.  He was f-cking dire.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: pjk on June 15, 2014, 08:12:56 PM
Crappiest Italian team? if you say so.



Can you think of an Italian team that wasn't better? I can't.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: ForzaItalia on June 15, 2014, 08:35:10 PM


Can you think of an Italian team that wasn't better? I can't.

The team that finished bottom of our group in 2010 weren't great were they? The lowlight being a 1-1 draw with New Zealand.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: ally2 on June 15, 2014, 08:37:44 PM



Can you think of an Italian team that wasn't better? I can't.

So what?  The only thing that's important is whether they are crap or not. Not whether they are the crappest team when compared to all their past teams!  What is the relevance of that?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Redartin on June 15, 2014, 08:39:20 PM
The team that finished bottom of our group in 2010 weren't great were they? The lowlight being a 1-1 draw with New Zealand.

New Zealand went through the tournament undefeated, possibly the only team to do so.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: pjk on June 15, 2014, 08:51:06 PM
So what?  The only thing that's important is whether they are crap or not. Not whether they are the crappest team when compared to all their past teams!  What is the relevance of that?




We had an opportunity to beat them due to their weaknesses. If you're an England fan that to me is relevant.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on June 15, 2014, 09:15:42 PM
New Zealand went through the tournament undefeated, possibly the only team to do so.

this is correct
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on June 15, 2014, 09:22:25 PM
Need Italy to top the group with 9 points.

If that happens, then 4 points will be enough for 2nd. Obviously we'd probably still need a superior goal difference as well.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 15, 2014, 10:03:32 PM
come on switzerland, don't let me down   :woohoo:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 15, 2014, 10:05:20 PM
No we don't. We can draw with them and probably go through with a win against Costa Rica.

you were right about pirlo, and i was wrong.

he'll probably still be doing what he does when he's 45...
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 15, 2014, 10:41:45 PM
I just watched the England Italy game again after recording it last night.

Balotelli's chance where he lobbed Joe Hart came from Gerrard giving the ball away in the middle of the pitch with a 25-yard chipped pass straight to Verratti. He passes it to Pirlo who through balls it and before you know it Balotelli nearly scores. That was in injury time, not 10 minutes after England had equalised and were heading for half time level and with a good 45 minutes of football under their belt. It's this complete lack of game management understanding that means Gerrard isn't fit to be the brain of the team. He's thick as shit.

Also, while I thought it was tactically brilliant by Prandelli to deploy Candreva where he did (it's almost like he knew England would set up to stop Italy through the middle and neglect the wider areas), Roy really hung Baines out to dry by not reacting to it. Their second goal sees them just knocking it about at the back and then Darmian finds himself in a massive gap and Baines is on his own. He's calling for help but none comes. Now Baines is getting criticised by plastic, gob-shite Chelsea fans giving it the big'un about how best-left-back-in-the-world Ashley Cole would have been able to mark two players simultaneously. I felt sorry for him. He looked frustrated. He's getting the blame when the problem was one of team shape.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: ally2 on June 15, 2014, 11:04:34 PM
The media blind spot with Gerrard is curious to me. But then I never understood the general football appreciation for phil Neville. Some things just can't be explained.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: ally2 on June 15, 2014, 11:06:37 PM
Stadium not full again. And the fans that are there are about as plastic as they get. It's like having actors in the crowd with the cameras told to film certain areas.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 11:08:32 PM
England sycophants like Ian Wright, Lee Dixon, Rio Ferdinand, Chiles, Shearer etc don't have the nerve to say what is staring everyone else in the face. Even the foreign pundits won't say it, because they are being polite and aware that they are commentating on British TV.

It needed somebody like Roy Keane to say it, and I think he would've had he been there.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 15, 2014, 11:28:15 PM
Clarke Carlisle just saying how strong Ecuador are given that Jackson Martinez can't get in their first 11. That's two first 11's he can't get in, because his national team, Colombia aren't picking him either. Must be gutted.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on June 15, 2014, 11:29:44 PM
Did Clarke Carlisle just say he's surprised Jackson Martinez isn't playing?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: velimski on June 15, 2014, 11:30:49 PM
Clarke Carlisle just saying how strong Ecuador are given that Jackson Martinez can't get in their first 11. That's two first 11's he can't get in, because his national team, Colombia aren't picking him either. Must be gutted.

Glad I wasn't hearing things!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: ally2 on June 15, 2014, 11:32:48 PM

Clarke Carlisle just saying how strong Ecuador are given that Jackson Martinez can't get in their first 11. That's two first 11's he can't get in, because his national team, Colombia aren't picking him either. Must be gutted.

These Central Americans, they're all the same.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 15, 2014, 11:41:47 PM
Shaqiri looks like he spends more time in the gym than on the training pitch. He also looks about 45.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 16, 2014, 12:06:37 AM
take that, si :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 16, 2014, 12:09:43 AM
These Central Americans, they're all the same.

Yeah, coming over here, taking all our jobs etc etc etc...
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 16, 2014, 12:10:34 AM
Seems this ref in the Swiss v Ecuador game isn't that fused about the new magic spray rule
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 16, 2014, 12:15:16 AM
These Central Americans, they're all the same.

i'm not biting   ;D
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 16, 2014, 12:22:08 AM
Stadium not full again. And the fans that are there are about as plastic as they get. It's like having actors in the crowd with the cameras told to film certain areas.

The crowds sound like they're mostly populated with teenage girls.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 16, 2014, 12:33:10 AM
Clark Carlisle sounds like he hasn't had a dump for a few days
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 16, 2014, 12:41:46 AM
switzerland will only have themselves to blame if they don't win this. piss-poor finishing.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 16, 2014, 12:48:45 AM
This game's played at an incredible pace. England were done by the 60th minute last night.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 16, 2014, 12:49:59 AM
get in   :woohoo:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ell Capitan on June 16, 2014, 12:50:53 AM
Excellent reffing to play on there. Didn't even occur to me that he might not stop play.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 16, 2014, 12:51:08 AM
Unbelievable. Best finals in years. No draw yet.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 16, 2014, 12:52:06 AM
Not to sound like Alan Shearer, but great tackle and run from Behrami, great advantage by the ref, great ball in from Rodriguez, and a great run and finish from Seferovic. Great goal!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Tinga on June 16, 2014, 01:03:28 AM
I had 2-1 in the sweeps, Thanks Swiss.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 16, 2014, 01:08:35 AM
Switzerland have some really good players there. Didn't realise until I seen their squad. Players like stocker, Rodriguez, benalgio, relatively unknown, but really highly rated in Europe.

Could shock a few this year
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: hill135 on June 16, 2014, 01:09:41 AM
Llloris; Evra, Sakho, Varane, Debuchy; Pogba, Cabaye, Matuidi; Griezmann, Benzema, Valbuena.

Hoping for some big fantasy football points from Evra and Valbuena.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 16, 2014, 01:19:29 AM
Switzerland have some really good players there. Didn't realise until I seen their squad. Players like stocker, Rodriguez, benalgio, relatively unknown, but really highly rated in Europe.

Could shock a few this year

chuck a tenner on them @ 100/1...

i've thrown money away on worse bets :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 16, 2014, 01:22:48 AM
Llloris; Evra, Sakho, Varane, Debuchy; Pogba, Cabaye, Matuidi; Griezmann, Benzema, Valbuena.

Hoping for some big fantasy football points from Evra and Valbuena.

Really looking forward to seeing Griezmann in general, and then looking for big fantasy points from Varane, Cabaye and Benzema.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 16, 2014, 01:27:48 AM
Switzerland have some really good players there. Didn't realise until I seen their squad. Players like stocker, Rodriguez, benalgio, relatively unknown, but really highly rated in Europe.

Could shock a few this year

That late winner is massive for them. Whoever finishes second in this group probably plays Argentina. I actually wasn't too impressed with them today, given the talent they've got. It's possible that I might just be fuming cos Stocker is in my fantasy team, and was rubbish and taken off at HT though.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 16, 2014, 01:56:12 AM
rooting for honduras in this one.

fuck the french :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 16, 2014, 01:56:19 AM
Fucking preposterous. La Marseillaise is easily the best national anthem, and they completely ruined it.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 16, 2014, 02:02:05 AM
Shocked the French team didn't walk off and take the broken PA system as an insult :hmph:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 16, 2014, 02:05:50 AM
Shocked the French team didn't walk off and take the broken PA system as an insult :hmph:

they'll wait until half-time. they need to reflect on these things :)

(especially if they're losing)

evra now has a 'i don't want a yellow card' injury.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: macko on June 16, 2014, 02:12:13 AM
Clark Carlisle sounds like he hasn't had a dump for a few days
For someone who's supposed to be highly intelligent,he doesn't half talk shite!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 16, 2014, 02:27:14 AM
this is getting tasty.

honduras look hopeless. just a matter of time methinks :(
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Nicco on June 16, 2014, 02:27:58 AM
Pogba acting in true french WC mood!
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blargins on June 16, 2014, 02:28:01 AM
rooting for honduras in this one.

fuck the french :)
me too. have them for the sweep.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 16, 2014, 02:28:25 AM
Palacios is a fucking shithouse.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 16, 2014, 02:30:12 AM
Palacios is a fucking shithouse.

Stood on pogbas knees a couple of times then acts as though he's been two footed when he gets tripped. Twat. I've decided I'm rooting for France now seen as these Hondurans are a bunch of dirty cunts.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on June 16, 2014, 02:30:35 AM
Pogba was stamped all over, would have been harsh to see him off, Palacious had trodden on him about three times and Pogba flicking his leg is a natural reaction, I'd have studded Palacios in the bollocks myself.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on June 16, 2014, 02:32:18 AM
Stood on pogbas knees a couple of times then acts as though he's been two footed when he gets tripped. Twat. I've decided I'm rooting for France now seen as these Hondurans are a bunch of dirty cunts.

Agree, Honduras are just a bunch of hatchet men.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 16, 2014, 02:33:00 AM
Got a bet on for a red card here
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 16, 2014, 02:33:28 AM
Stood on pogbas knees a couple of times then acts as though he's been two footed when he gets tripped. Twat. I've decided I'm rooting for France now seen as these Hondurans are a bunch of dirty cunts.

i know what you mean, but i couldn't root for the french even if a honduran whipped out a pistol and shot the entire french side.

no bias here   :whistle:
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 16, 2014, 02:33:29 AM
Got a bet on for a red card here

What price did you get?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 16, 2014, 02:35:35 AM
I bet when they pull this shit on Ecuador, there will be an honest-to-God brawl on the pitch.  Must see TV.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 16, 2014, 02:35:58 AM
What price did you get?

2/1. The odds rapidly dropped as the match is going along
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 16, 2014, 02:38:01 AM
Keown calling the Honduras players dirty..

 lolol


(http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowldc/files/original/Pot-calling-the-kettle-black-734818.jpg)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 16, 2014, 02:38:41 AM
Keown calling the Honduras players dirty..

 lolol


(http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowldc/files/original/Pot-calling-the-kettle-black-734818.jpg)

Racist.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: TheRam on June 16, 2014, 02:39:46 AM
Why is Jonathan Pearce obsessed with karim benzemas body
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 16, 2014, 02:40:56 AM
Keown calling the Honduras players dirty..

 lolol


(http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowldc/files/original/Pot-calling-the-kettle-black-734818.jpg)

unfortunately, though, he's right.

takes one to know one :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 16, 2014, 02:41:21 AM
Why is Jonathan Pearce obsessed with karim benzemas body

He hasn't even changed. He's always been built.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 16, 2014, 02:42:08 AM
Come on France my darlings :D
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Ross on June 16, 2014, 02:42:13 AM
I treat all kitchen apparatus with equal contempt
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 16, 2014, 02:42:46 AM
There's Ram's red.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Eddie on June 16, 2014, 02:42:59 AM
Easy money Ram.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 16, 2014, 02:43:02 AM
penalty. pffft. red card. been coming for palacios. twat.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Bluedylan on June 16, 2014, 02:43:02 AM
Laters Palacious, you horrible bastard.
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Nicco on June 16, 2014, 02:43:07 AM
Congrats TheRam ;)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: ForzaItalia on June 16, 2014, 02:43:44 AM
Got a bet on for a red card here

Hope you had a grand on it
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 16, 2014, 02:43:44 AM
I mean, how stupid can #8 get?
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: The Good Citizen on June 16, 2014, 02:44:38 AM
Wayhay! Ram's getting the next round in. :)
Title: Re: World Cup 2014
Post by: blob on June 16, 2014, 02:44:52 AM