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Title: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 20, 2015, 09:40:51 AM
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Arsenal FC v Everton FC
The Emirates Stadium
Saturday 24th October 17:30
Premier League Match 10


Arsenal's last 5 matches

Leicester 2-5 Arsenal (Walcott, Sanchez x3, Giroud)
Arsenal 2-3 Olympiakos - Champions League (Walcott, Sanchez)
Arsenal 3-0 Manchester United (Sanchez x2, Ozil)
Watford 0-3 Arsenal (Sanchez, Giroud, Ramsey)
Arsenal v Bayern Munich - Champions League

Everton's last 5 matches

Swansea 0-0 Everton
Reading 1-2 Everton - Capital One Cup (Barkley, Deulofeu)
West Brom 2-3 Everton (Lukaku x2, Kone)
Everton 1-1 Liverpool (Lukaku)
Everton 0-3 Manchester United

Arsenal

Arsenal are set to host Everton this weekend and come into this fixture on the back of consecutive 3-0 victories in the Premier League with Bayern Munich to visit in the Champions League on Tuesday evening. Arsenal have won each of their last three premier league fixtures and have scored 11 goals in the process with six of those goals coming from Alexis Sanchez and the Gunners only conceding twice in that period. Arsenal have tasted success recently over Everton with victory during pre-season in July with Theo Walcott among the goalscorers in Singapore. Walcott has scored 12 goals and grabbed three assists in his last 15 premier league starts. Arsenal have only scored five goals in their opening four league matches at the Emirates but those have all come in their last two home fixtures with a 2-0 victory over Stoke and 3-0 versus Manchester United.

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This will be the 15th meeting in total between Arsene Wenger and Roberto Martinez and that will mean Wenger will have faced Martinez on more occasions than any other manager. Unsurprisingly, the stats are overwhelmingly in Arsenal's favour who have won eight of the 14 matches, though they've only actually won six of 12 league meetings which is perhaps less than expected. Martinez has beaten Arsenal on three separate occasions and they have all came in different stadiums and James McCarthy has started in each of those victories. Arsenal's have only lost one of their last 16 Premier League matches against Everton (W9 D6) and haven't lost at home to an Everton side since 1996 when goals from Graham Stuart and Andrei Kanchelskis cancelled out Ian Wright's opener in a 2-1 victory at Highbury.

Possible Line-Ups

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Everton

Everton go into this match in somewhat patchy form following their second defeat of the season at home to Manchester United last weekend. The Toffees have taken eight points from their four away fixtures this season and are one of four sides yet to lose an away match in the premier league (West Ham, Leicester, Southampton) whilst no side has conceded fewer goals on the road (2). Everton have created 78 chances this season in the Premier League which is the seventh lowest in the league whilst Arsenal have created more chances than any other side (141). Everton and Arsenal have each committed 83 fouls this season which is the joint lowest in the Premier League and only Swansea (123) and Chelsea (121) have been awarded more freekicks than Everton (116). Everton are still the only team yet to score from a set piece in the league.

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What you can see above is solid proof that statistics mean very little. Tim Howard has made the joint most saves per game (3.33) of all goalkeepers to have made nine appearances this season and only Leicester City's Kaspar Schmeichel (4) has conceded more goals than Howard from corner kicks (3). Statistics show that Howard has made just one punch in the Premier League this season which is the joint lowest whilst he's come to claim the ball successfully 34 times which is the second highest in the league. Howard also boasts the best pass succession among the goalkeepers who have started every match this season but he also averages the shortest pass distance by some margin (Howard - 26m, Fabianski - 31m, Ruddy - 37m, Butland - 44m).

Statistics & Injuries

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Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Confucius on October 20, 2015, 11:21:09 AM
Really can't see us losing.

We play better away from home anyway and Arsenal are perfect to counter attack against.

Open spaces for Barkley, Deulofeu and Lukaku of we can defend.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 20, 2015, 01:25:57 PM
Can't see anything other than a drab routine defeat here.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2015, 01:50:30 PM
First win at the Emirates
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on October 20, 2015, 02:18:13 PM
Feeling optimistic for a good response. We seem to play pretty well away from GP at the moment.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 20, 2015, 02:22:19 PM
Stinging defeat
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: pjk on October 20, 2015, 02:37:16 PM
The heart says a progressive hard fought win. The harsh realities say a possible battering. We really are  that contrary at the moment.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 20, 2015, 03:29:22 PM
Playing really well lately Arsenal, great to watch. Hopefully they won't be that great on Saturday.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheTone on October 20, 2015, 04:47:39 PM
words cannot describe adequately the hatred I have for Arsenal, I hate them more than that shower across the park, all of their players have faces that I just want to smack, tops off selfie taking cunts

I predict what normally happens us at their foreign cesspit of a ground, we'll start off the better side, miss one or two sitters then blow up when that cunt Giroud scores against the run of play

 :headbang:



Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: brap2 on October 20, 2015, 05:30:27 PM
we're going to smash these you know.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 20, 2015, 05:31:56 PM
We're going to be sodomized by these.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Fern on October 20, 2015, 05:33:55 PM
Unfortunately think this will be one heavy defeat. We'll do well up to a point then lose a stupid set piece goal. Then cave in another 3.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: blob on October 20, 2015, 06:28:29 PM
always want us to win, obviously, but i think we'll get blitzed here :(
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: GLewis on October 20, 2015, 06:58:22 PM
I'm not overly enthused about this match.

But last time I felt like that was Southampton :eh:
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2015, 07:19:03 PM
I'm not overly enthused about this match.

But last time I felt like that was Southampton :eh:

I feel exactly the same.  My prediction ability this season is completely shit, as the table indicates.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on October 20, 2015, 08:52:04 PM
Be made up with a point here to be honest

Always fear Arsenal could give us a hiding
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: bigmanbob on October 20, 2015, 10:16:49 PM
Yep, I'd be happy with a point. We need to keep Sanchez quiet
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: bluestevie on October 20, 2015, 10:45:10 PM
Depends what Bayern do to them tonight, if they get beat comfortably then we may face a backlash but if they win it might give us a chance to pick at them if we start well
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 20, 2015, 11:27:41 PM
More chance of @Optimistic Blue (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=411) sucking his own cock than us winning this.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 21, 2015, 12:25:44 AM
5:30pm?

for fuck sake
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 21, 2015, 12:26:57 AM
Away we have a chance.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 21, 2015, 12:31:51 AM
Last time we won there. Unbelievable goal from Ian Wright.

Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Redartin on October 21, 2015, 01:37:00 AM
More chance of @Optimistic Blue (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=411) sucking his own cock than us winning this.

Nothing is impossible brother @TheRam (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1602), it's all about taking risks and thinking outside the box. At no point did OB say it had to be attached to his body. All he needs is a sharp Stanley knife, something to stop the bleeding, and he can suck it like an ice pop all though the match as he watches us whip their sorry asses.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Fern on October 21, 2015, 01:40:06 AM
Depends what Bayern do to them tonight, if they get beat comfortably then we may face a backlash but if they win it might give us a chance to pick at them if we start well

Yep what we need to hope for is one real exhausting night for them and Sanchez getting injured or something. More to the point, on Sat, we must put in one massive energetic shit and not start lethargically.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 21, 2015, 01:42:46 AM
When we are on form and in the right frame of mind, we can go toe to toe with anybody, anywhere.  I truly believe that.  Even after the pitch shitting performance we put on last weekend.

At some point, Arsenal has to remember they are only comfortable in 4th, RIGHT?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 21, 2015, 03:38:09 AM
We're going to get dicked if they turn up. Unfortunately I feel like the result lies firmly in their hands. They are prone to a few lapses though, so you never know.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 21, 2015, 05:49:23 AM
We're going to get dicked if they turn up. Unfortunately I feel like the results lies firmly in their hands. They are prone to a few lapses though, so you never know.

I am likely selling them short and waiting for them to be the Arsene Wenger team I am used to seeing.  But they've been pretty consistently impressive this season, no doubt.

I'm annoyed we kickoff the same time as NC State, FFS.  Right, fearless Prediction League leader pjc?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 21, 2015, 06:05:30 AM
They may be a little knackered after today's game against Bayern, and Lukaku is the kind of player that can give them a hard time if he's on his game.

Don't really fancy us to get a result, but there's always a chance.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Confucius on October 21, 2015, 08:54:48 AM
Last time we won there. Unbelievable goal from Ian Wright.


Was Howard in goal for them for our second
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Trowel on October 21, 2015, 11:34:45 AM
After last night's game, Ramsey has been  ruled out with a hamstring injury, and Wenger hinted Sanchez may be rested.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TSGun on October 21, 2015, 01:47:29 PM
We're definitely a good chance for a point but it's difficult to be overly confident.

Our best could win this game, our worst could be embarrassing.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on October 21, 2015, 05:28:35 PM
They've just beaten one of the best teams in the world. My heart thinks the weekend might be a big come down for them and they'll not be up for it. My head thinks playing against Barry and McCarthy will be a piece of cake compared to Vidal and Tiago and their fast, skilful players will make it quite a comfortable win.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: brap2 on October 21, 2015, 08:45:49 PM
they'll come flying out thinking they're going to roll us over and we'll smash them on the break.

in all honesty, i think we will lose this but it isn't the end of the world. As has been said before, it's the 5/6 after this that will make or break our season...
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 21, 2015, 11:28:44 PM
Frustrating that if we played Mirallas and deulofeu we might be able to go toe to toe with them. Instead we might try and grind a result
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 21, 2015, 11:31:46 PM
I reckon a front 4 of Mirallas, del, barkley and Lukaku would be fucking awful, personally.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 21, 2015, 11:48:28 PM
I reckon a front 4 of Mirallas, del, barkley and Lukaku would be fucking awful, personally.

I remember Deulofeu and Mirallas starting twice under Martinez and I don't we played well in either match.

Everton 2-1 Cardiff - Coleman scored the winner in injury time. We started with Mirallas, Osman and Deulofeu behind Lukaku.

Everton 2-3 Palace - Probably the most attacking line up we've fielded under Martinez. Howard; Coleman, Stones, Distin, Baines; Barry, Barkley; Deulofeu Mirallas McGeady; Lukaku
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: GLewis on October 21, 2015, 11:53:49 PM
Frustrating that if we played Mirallas and deulofeu we might be able to go toe to toe with them. Instead we might try and grind a result

Well just some sort of more attacking selection!
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on October 22, 2015, 05:07:20 AM
People really over play out counter attack game. All because of like 5 stand out games over the past season. With lukaku playing more target man esq, it doesn't really happen now. We all expected it at Utd and Liverpool but seen nothing. I really don't know what game suits us best anymore.

We won't win this. Id take a draw now
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Rhys on October 22, 2015, 06:01:54 PM
Everton 2-3 Palace - Probably the most attacking line up we've fielded under Martinez. Howard; Coleman, Stones, Distin, Baines; Barry, Barkley; Deulofeu Mirallas McGeady; Lukaku

That was awful that its almost like because he went winger overload in the game and with no Mccarthy protecting, Coleman bombing on we basically had nobody back when they broke down their left so over the last 12 months has gone to extremes the other way.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: chang on October 22, 2015, 07:05:51 PM
Oh great !

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10037711/arsenal-hold-record-91-league-wins-over-saturdays-opponents-everton
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on October 22, 2015, 07:21:58 PM
If I see Naismith and Lennon on the teamsheet I'm fucking off to watch it in the pub.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 22, 2015, 11:17:15 PM
What's wrong with lennon?

All you lads wanting a 4 of Mirallas, barkley, del and Lukaku will be very disappointed if that actual happens. That'll be a disaster of a front 4.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 22, 2015, 11:23:58 PM
What's wrong with lennon?

All you lads wanting a 4 of Mirallas, barkley, del and Lukaku will be very disappointed if that actual happens. That'll be a disaster of a front 4.
Nowt wrong with Lennon as long as they other wing has some cut and thrust to it

Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 23, 2015, 12:34:48 AM
No issue with Lennon starting for me either but as Jim said there has to be something else elsewhere
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: ally2 on October 23, 2015, 12:49:30 AM
Im not really arsed either way. Getting all a bit indifferent to things at the mo. It just seems every time we might be doing well, we go and screw it up. And then we are rubbish but then pull out a really good performance. That's football I suppose. The promise of possibility.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 23, 2015, 12:52:39 AM
We've already played this match in my head and lost. I'm just eager to get on with the matches which follow.

Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 23, 2015, 02:01:25 AM
Not a chance of winning this.........ha, be ace if we do though won't it.

Aye.

Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 23, 2015, 05:23:52 AM
Fed up of these fucking gash fixtures
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Tinga on October 23, 2015, 07:06:29 PM
I hate this fixture every season, it's just a free three points for them.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: DanDan on October 23, 2015, 07:50:03 PM
I think Cleverley might make the starting line up to give Galloway some protection
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on October 23, 2015, 08:35:49 PM
Arsenal fan in my work just said he hopes we both get 3 points

He's not the brightest fella
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 24, 2015, 10:24:29 AM
Loss

2-1

Kone
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on October 24, 2015, 04:19:54 PM
Got to admit not looking forward to this one, still fancy us to maybe nick a draw though.

Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: ally2 on October 24, 2015, 05:50:50 PM
I think we will snatch a defeat from the jaws of a draw.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Hawkandro on October 24, 2015, 06:04:26 PM
I've put Giroud and Sanchez into and took Lukaku out of my Fantasy team this week, so I think we will win this one.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 24, 2015, 06:05:40 PM
I'm kind of looking forward to this now.

I'm obviously a massive masochist.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 24, 2015, 07:11:13 PM
Gonna be grim this.

Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 24, 2015, 07:22:05 PM
We are gonna get dry bummed tonight
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 24, 2015, 07:36:23 PM
I go into every game at the start of a week negative yet the weekend rolls round and I start thinking we can do something. Fucks sake.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on October 24, 2015, 07:59:07 PM
Remember when we played them off the park at the Emirates, in Martinez' first season...

And also when we took them all the way, when Pienaar scored that brilliant goal ...

Whatever happened to that great football we were capable of ?

COYB !

Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 24, 2015, 08:19:51 PM
I'm kind of looking forward to this now.

I'm obviously a massive masochist.

ugh same, i have convinced myself we will win this ffs.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 24, 2015, 08:30:48 PM
If you are looking for a shred of hope, I believe our record is quite good under the new US TV contract when we are on "big" NBC (as opposed to NBCSN, USA, or Extra Time).
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 24, 2015, 08:39:00 PM
My arse is already sore in anticipation of what's about to happen here.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 24, 2015, 08:41:55 PM
We'll likely get beat but they're not going to destroy us. We're a good team and they've had to play the best team in the world in midweek where they managed less than 30% possession, that's going to have an affect physically.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Grand Master C on October 24, 2015, 09:24:37 PM
Wrong thread !!
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 24, 2015, 09:41:42 PM
Still convinced we'll get dicked everywhere. Can't really see a single reason for optimism other than Arsenal's propensity to throw the odd shocker in when they're flying high, and you don't really want to be relying on that.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: velimski on October 24, 2015, 09:59:00 PM
Eddie's stuck in Watford,  and I'm drinking San Miguel on the street by myself.

This isn't how I envisaged our date to go.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Goaljira on October 24, 2015, 10:22:37 PM
Arsenal away is up there with the shite at the pit in terms of least confident aways.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: blue1948 on October 24, 2015, 10:26:32 PM
The problem is we can't forget the 7-0 drubbing  but I think our on the road performances have been good enough to
see that we are going to tank them today .Off for another beer
Onwards and upwards
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 24, 2015, 10:30:43 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSF6sgvWUAUhw6k.jpg)
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 24, 2015, 10:31:52 PM
two wingers?!?!?!?

MARTINEZ!!!!
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 24, 2015, 10:31:58 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSF6-YkWsAAvPRC.jpg)
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 24, 2015, 10:32:19 PM
Top line up, strong bench, if we do lose it shouldn't be because of how we've set up
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Risky on October 24, 2015, 10:33:25 PM
Glad to see he's gone for Deulofeu over Naismith.  Probably as good a team as could be hoped for.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 24, 2015, 10:36:06 PM
Looks a more balanced side

We will get dicked

Edit ffs auto correct,fuck off
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on October 24, 2015, 10:50:43 PM
Lennon AND Deulofeu... hmmm.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Bluebridge on October 24, 2015, 10:53:05 PM
More confident now I've seen the team, plenty of pace up top, still expect to lose though by the odd goal.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on October 24, 2015, 10:53:17 PM
Holy shit, have I just seen TWO wingers in the starting line up?

Be interesting this one.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 24, 2015, 10:53:52 PM
Amazed Kone isn't playing again. We've been consistantly a better side when he's started games, he's clearly improved us as a team when brought on as well. He occupies men with his hold up play. Actually think he's proved to be quite vital to us this season. Would think we'd try and give him as many minutes as possible
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 24, 2015, 11:00:50 PM
Amazed Kone isn't playing again. We've been consistantly a better side when he's started games, he's clearly improved us as a team when brought on as well. He occupies men with his hold up play. Actually think he's proved to be quite vital to us this season. Would think we'd try and give him as many minutes as possible

Don't get the Kone thing myself.

He's actually proved himself to be a very good player coming off the bench

Apart from Southampton he hasn't really had an impact from the start
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on October 24, 2015, 11:01:26 PM
Amazed Kone isn't playing again. We've been consistantly a better side when he's started games, he's clearly improved us as a team when brought on as well. He occupies men with his hold up play. Actually think he's proved to be quite vital to us this season. Would think we'd try and give him as many minutes as possible

Need to see if Lennon can actually reach the standard he got to last season. Early signs aren't positive.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 24, 2015, 11:01:42 PM
http://cricfree.tv/sky-sports-1-live-stream-5
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on October 24, 2015, 11:01:47 PM
Don't get the Kone thing myself.

He's actually proved himself to be a very good player coming off the bench

Apart from Southampton he hasn't really had an impact from the start

Yeah, I really like having a legit striking option off of the bench. Allows us to really change the game when we need to grab a goal.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 24, 2015, 11:03:14 PM
worry about us at set pieces today
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: GLewis on October 24, 2015, 11:03:35 PM
worry about us at set pieces today

Just today?

;)
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 24, 2015, 11:03:37 PM
Still can't see how we're going to get dicked but time till tell.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on October 24, 2015, 11:03:44 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSF6-YkWsAAvPRC.jpg)

Good argument to be made that, while their first 11 is definitely stronger than ours, our bench matches up fairly well.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 24, 2015, 11:03:56 PM
A point here puts us in a decent position going into a run of very winnable games.

But we'll lose then draw the majority of winnable games, won't we
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: GLewis on October 24, 2015, 11:04:52 PM
Happy with that team.

Galloway can just give the ball to Deulofeu; as long as he doesn't try and run inside of Deulofeu, thereby cutting off his angle inside, his energy can provide a potential distraction on the overlap.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheTone on October 24, 2015, 11:06:41 PM
we need Howard to produce a a performance of 'american president phone call' proportions here
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: velimski on October 24, 2015, 11:12:49 PM
Place is rocking with the Ross Barkley song.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: velimski on October 24, 2015, 11:15:03 PM
Place is rocking with the Ross Barkley song.

Folk standing / dancing on tables n shit.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on October 24, 2015, 11:15:51 PM
Osman to head in the winner off the bench.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 24, 2015, 11:17:40 PM
Sitting with the arsenal fans for this one.

Bunch of cunts.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on October 24, 2015, 11:18:01 PM
Osman to head in the winner off the bench.
That would be some header.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 24, 2015, 11:20:45 PM
We play Sunderland and Aston Villa soon  ::)
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on October 24, 2015, 11:25:24 PM
That would be some header.

As soon as I hit post I knew that joke was coming haha.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 24, 2015, 11:25:54 PM
Martinez wants to "find a strong start" today

Don't we all!
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on October 24, 2015, 11:27:12 PM
Come on Everton, lets have these.

5-0!
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on October 24, 2015, 11:29:38 PM
Come on Everton these are, er, reasonably good.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 24, 2015, 11:32:04 PM
Lennon on the left with Deulofeu on the right
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 24, 2015, 11:33:25 PM
Barkley picking up where he left off last week
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 24, 2015, 11:34:06 PM
Barkley going to have one of those games isn't he
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: hill135 on October 24, 2015, 11:34:20 PM
Streams lids?

Lizz's one is good but can't get full screen with or without adblock
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 24, 2015, 11:34:32 PM
few shite passes already
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 24, 2015, 11:35:46 PM
Howard given a bit of a scare there

Arsenal pressing as high as his goal line!
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 24, 2015, 11:37:02 PM
what's happened to Jags' passing?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 24, 2015, 11:37:31 PM
too easy for Giroud to win that header - from a corner as usual
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on October 24, 2015, 11:37:43 PM
Jags ffs what you doing??
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 24, 2015, 11:37:56 PM
Constantly questioning my sexuality when I see Giroud.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 24, 2015, 11:38:02 PM
Deulofeu looks right up for it
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 24, 2015, 11:38:54 PM
so slow ffs
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 24, 2015, 11:40:13 PM
another corner, another free header

over this time
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on October 24, 2015, 11:42:24 PM
Any streams about?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on October 24, 2015, 11:42:34 PM
 :batty:
Constantly questioning my sexuality when I see Giroud.
:batty:
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on October 24, 2015, 11:43:13 PM
Corner = shit myself everytime
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 24, 2015, 11:43:47 PM
our defence is fucking wank
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 24, 2015, 11:44:07 PM
:batty: :batty:

But then I see your avatar and all faith is restored.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 24, 2015, 11:44:30 PM
Any streams about?

http://cricfree.tv/sky-sports-1-live-stream-5
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 24, 2015, 11:44:46 PM
Lucky there, awful defending
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 24, 2015, 11:45:10 PM
got off lucky there, not sure if that was actually a foul

Ozil missed anyway though!
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Amata on October 24, 2015, 11:45:48 PM
Second best to everything here. We need to string more than 3 passes together
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on October 24, 2015, 11:45:58 PM
We look scared stiff
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on October 24, 2015, 11:46:49 PM
Definitely a foul is
Went through the back of stones
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on October 24, 2015, 11:47:24 PM
Got defensive cock-up written all over this. Slack all round.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 24, 2015, 11:47:32 PM
Fel awful from the start again
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on October 24, 2015, 11:47:53 PM
http://cricfree.tv/sky-sports-1-live-stream-5

Wants me to disable ad blocker  :police:
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 24, 2015, 11:48:15 PM
no way a foul by Lennon that
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 24, 2015, 11:48:29 PM
Wants me to disable ad blocker  :police:

Tell it to fuck right off ;)
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 24, 2015, 11:48:46 PM
MOVE ffs...nothing up front. we win it back and cant go forward cos no one moves!
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on October 24, 2015, 11:49:50 PM
Potentially dangerous situation with Lennon there and Lee Mason blows his whistle for absolutely no reason.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 24, 2015, 11:49:50 PM
Wants me to disable ad blocker  :police:

i just do it, no problems. No ads apvrt from the ones to get rid on screen.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 24, 2015, 11:50:07 PM
MOVE ffs...nothing up front. we win it back and cant go forward cos no one moves!

Bit of a problem that with Bobby insisting we play "pass and move" lolol
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on October 24, 2015, 11:51:30 PM
Galloway and stones so far seem our best players going forward

Wake up FFS
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 24, 2015, 11:51:35 PM
brilliant tackle from Jags that

Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Amata on October 24, 2015, 11:52:02 PM
Panic
Pass to Howard
Hoof
Lose posession

And repeat

Keep giving Arsenal the ball and we will be punished
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 24, 2015, 11:52:58 PM
NZ won woooo
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 24, 2015, 11:53:19 PM
Lukaku could at least pretend he's interested.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 24, 2015, 11:53:24 PM
and another great tackle, this time from Stones
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: chang on October 24, 2015, 11:53:29 PM
45 years I watched Arsenal batter us.....come on Everton!
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 24, 2015, 11:53:42 PM
Delofeu appears to be in "Merseyside Derby" mode again
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 24, 2015, 11:53:58 PM
Im obviously on my own with this but with Kone playing the ball sticks and we can get a bit of territory. With Deulofeu we dont really have enough possession to even get him involved.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on October 24, 2015, 11:54:13 PM
Who's the daft cunt in the speedos and swimming cap?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Amata on October 24, 2015, 11:54:27 PM
Absolutely clueless
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Amata on October 24, 2015, 11:54:52 PM
Who's the daft cunt in the speedos and swimming cap?

For charity
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on October 24, 2015, 11:54:52 PM
Im obviously on my own with this but with Kone playing the ball sticks and we can get a bit of territory. With Deulofeu we dont really have enough possession to even get him involved.
No
You're not alone on that one
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 24, 2015, 11:55:15 PM
Lukaku could at least pretend he's interested.

The lads in work were having a discussion last week about him.  One said "you know in the first 5 minutes what you are gonna get off Lukaku".  Couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on October 24, 2015, 11:55:33 PM
Who's the daft cunt in the speedos and swimming cap?

Wondered where my dad was.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on October 24, 2015, 11:55:40 PM
For charity
Fair dos
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 24, 2015, 11:56:18 PM
Who's the daft cunt in the speedos and swimming cap?

Been doing this every game home & away, its for charity.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 24, 2015, 11:56:25 PM
No
You're not alone on that one

Find it utterly frustrating that hes not playing. Even when hes started and weve not been overly good (spurs) he was still 1 of our best performers. We need him because it frees up space for others
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 24, 2015, 11:57:01 PM
so slow
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Jacko4468 on October 24, 2015, 11:57:15 PM
Chasing shadows
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 24, 2015, 11:57:20 PM
why was Barry trying to pass then instead of shoot?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 24, 2015, 11:57:43 PM
ohhhhh

mishit by Stones

great chance that
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 24, 2015, 11:57:50 PM
Barry should of hit that
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 24, 2015, 11:57:53 PM
Should be winning
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 24, 2015, 11:58:24 PM
fuckkkk
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Jacko4468 on October 24, 2015, 11:58:51 PM
Get in to the final 3rd 2 sideways passes then back to jagielka or stones, no ideas, boring! Bring on Kone
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 24, 2015, 11:59:26 PM
Coleman coming in infield whenever we go forward.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Alex6691 on October 24, 2015, 11:59:30 PM
Is it just me or is it always raining/snowing when we play at the Emirates?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 24, 2015, 11:59:45 PM
hahahaha!

great dive after the whistle from Koschelny
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Amata on October 24, 2015, 11:59:47 PM
At least give him a chance Rom. poor ball
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 12:00:13 AM
Don't think we're playing that bad tbh.

We are playing one of the best teams in the league
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 25, 2015, 12:00:17 AM
This ref is yet another complete bell end
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 25, 2015, 12:01:56 AM
It's a matter of time until this star jumping tit in goal gifts them something
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 12:02:00 AM
again, not a foul by Lennon

just stood his ground
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 12:04:56 AM
Deulofeu blocked off the same way that Lennon had blocked off Ozil earlier but nothing given

fuck off Mason
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 25, 2015, 12:05:16 AM
haha sanchez got free kick for same thing. fucking fat twat
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on October 25, 2015, 12:05:50 AM
I don't think Deulofeu gets his fair share of decisions.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 12:06:04 AM
oh look

we concede from a header

fuck sake

1-0 Arsenal (Giroud)
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on October 25, 2015, 12:06:23 AM
Keeper should have done better there
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 25, 2015, 12:06:33 AM
What did I say?  He's fucking useless
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 12:07:05 AM
Fuck it, time for robles.

That cunt doesn't deserve his place in the team anymore.

Try defending him for that , lads.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on October 25, 2015, 12:07:13 AM
Woeful
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: beyondblue on October 25, 2015, 12:07:30 AM
Ffs howard
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 25, 2015, 12:07:33 AM
im fed up of moaning at Howard, but why not come out and fucking clobber Giroid? Too easy.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Ari on October 25, 2015, 12:07:38 AM
Tim Howard.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Amata on October 25, 2015, 12:07:42 AM
Hahaha
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 12:07:44 AM
terrible look on his face as the ball comes in

and 2-0

another header

Howard flapping again
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on October 25, 2015, 12:07:53 AM
Jesus fucking Christ
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 25, 2015, 12:08:00 AM
Fuck off.  I'm done with this prick in charge
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: blob on October 25, 2015, 12:08:10 AM
hate to say it, but there's an absolute gulf in class between these 2 sides. 2-0
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 12:08:13 AM
Hahahahah gotta laugh
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on October 25, 2015, 12:08:17 AM
Absolutely fucking joke.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on October 25, 2015, 12:08:20 AM
Tim fucking howard
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on October 25, 2015, 12:08:25 AM
Yep - Howard needs to come for that. He was worthless where he was.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 25, 2015, 12:08:28 AM
For absolute fucks sake
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on October 25, 2015, 12:08:53 AM
Ahhh don't you just LOVE how we piss about at the back like that, when we have JUST conceded :)

Love it, love it to bits.

Absolutely fucking love our dilly dally garbage at the back.

37 minutes of great work undone, victims of our own downfall, not to mention a keeper who appears to be scared of the ball.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 25, 2015, 12:08:56 AM
Fucking shameful this (again) Our back 5 is meant to be worth how much and laughably they cant fucking defend
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on October 25, 2015, 12:08:56 AM
Wasn't even a free-kick.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: beyondblue on October 25, 2015, 12:09:27 AM
Two howlers in two minutes from Howard
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 25, 2015, 12:09:30 AM
Team of shithouses been shown up by a 19 year old centre half playing out of position.  We are a fucking shambles
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on October 25, 2015, 12:09:39 AM
Victims of our own downfall, I knew as soon as we started passing it about at the back like that it was doomed to fail.

Surely you would think common sense would prevail? But no.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 25, 2015, 12:09:44 AM
Get Howard off at half time. Unacceptable.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Trowel on October 25, 2015, 12:10:02 AM
I think Stones and Jagielka are keeping Howard in the team, because they know our fans ignore them losing their men repeatedly and lay no blame on their shoulders.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Fern on October 25, 2015, 12:10:04 AM
When will this guy practice defending from set pieces? Livid.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on October 25, 2015, 12:10:07 AM
Gotta laugh. Pathetic bunch of cunts. Same old flaws as last season i'm afraid. nothing has changed.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 25, 2015, 12:10:13 AM
fuck off now, just fuck off. i hate everything about this team. all our good players will be gone in 3 years. They are fucking wasted with this shithouse tactic, and a fucking twat of a goalkeeper.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on October 25, 2015, 12:10:21 AM
Gonna be one gut wrenchingly long second half.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: chang on October 25, 2015, 12:10:26 AM
Why does he not challenge for it?  99 out of 100 will get a free kick!
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on October 25, 2015, 12:10:51 AM
Howard isn't too blame, once again an easy scapegoat. No game plan at all, manager is fucking embarassing
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 12:11:04 AM
Even game, but undone by the clown in goal again.

Look at jags for the first goal, he's shouting for the keeper to come and collect.

They've seen he's our weakling and completely exploited it.

Fucking hate that fucking horrible twat:
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on October 25, 2015, 12:11:18 AM
I actually didn't think we where doing too bad up until when we conceded.

Fuck the likes of Yarmelenko off, a new keeper is paramount in the summer, if not January.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: christiffa25 on October 25, 2015, 12:11:20 AM
Martinez is tactically inept. Always has been always will be!!
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 25, 2015, 12:11:26 AM
HELP HIM you lazy cunts.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 25, 2015, 12:11:33 AM
They are a completely different standard of team to us. All them playmakers in midfield while we've really just got a giant hole

Weve 2 that cant do anything attacking wise, wingers who are dreadful infinitely more than they are useful and Barkley who cant get the ball

Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TrevorSteven on October 25, 2015, 12:11:35 AM
Dont be too down. We are quite an ordinary team meeting a top team flying.

We dont have the power nor the skills to create and Arsenal can score from nothing. Huge difference in class.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on October 25, 2015, 12:11:51 AM
Absolutely no support there for Deulofeu.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 25, 2015, 12:12:14 AM
Howard isn't too blame, once again an easy scapegoat. No game plan at all, manager is fucking embarassing

seriously?? He is fucking shit and directly to blame.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Fern on October 25, 2015, 12:12:31 AM
Even game, but undone by the clown in goal again.

Look at jags for the first goal, he's shouting for the keeper to come and collect.

They've seen he's our weakling and completely exploited it.

Fucking hate that fucking horrible twat:

Wow relax dude, no need to go to those levels.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on October 25, 2015, 12:13:22 AM
Had enough of this clown in goal now. Why is he undroppable?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Gumpinio on October 25, 2015, 12:13:25 AM
I would like to see us replace Howard with any other human being.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on October 25, 2015, 12:13:38 AM
Get in!
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 25, 2015, 12:13:40 AM
Lucky bastard there
His second touch stopped him
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Tinga on October 25, 2015, 12:13:41 AM
We actually scored a goal? wow.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 12:13:45 AM
get in!!

fantastic ball from Deulofeu to Barkley

gets a lot of luck but we'll have that!
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on October 25, 2015, 12:13:57 AM
Howard isn't too blame, once again an easy scapegoat. No game plan at all, manager is fucking embarassing
Fuck off, Martinez would have saved them. Howard is shite
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on October 25, 2015, 12:14:00 AM
Go on lads. Come on
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: blob on October 25, 2015, 12:14:04 AM
wow. nice goal. game on :)
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 25, 2015, 12:14:11 AM
Absolutely no support there for Deulofeu.

Hes absolutely not good enough at present. On his good days he looks a worldbeater. On his frequent bad he becomes more and more of a circus act as he gets frustrated

Oh well least we've got Ross
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on October 25, 2015, 12:14:32 AM
Shoot we score
Simples
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 12:14:51 AM
Hes absolutely not good enough at present. On his good days he looks a worldbeater. On his frequent bad he becomes more and more of a circus act as he gets frustrated

Oh well least we've got Ross

Deulofeu's pass was a brilliant spot, and brilliantly executed as well
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Bally on October 25, 2015, 12:15:11 AM
Who the fuck expected that
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on October 25, 2015, 12:15:20 AM
Massive slice of good luck but perfect timing for a goal
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TrevorSteven on October 25, 2015, 12:15:26 AM
That was all about doing what you should do. When/If we win the ball we have to do the counter if not why play Lennon, Deulofeu?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Redartin on October 25, 2015, 12:15:50 AM
Get Howard off at half time. Unacceptable.

Half time is a few mins away he could fuck up another couple before then
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on October 25, 2015, 12:15:57 AM
Gulf in class is laughable, sadly.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: beyondblue on October 25, 2015, 12:16:03 AM
Great vision and ball from Gérard
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on October 25, 2015, 12:16:29 AM
Edit: Maybe not.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on October 25, 2015, 12:16:31 AM
seriously?? He is fucking shit and directly to blame.

Howard definitely at fault for the first, less so for the second. But he also has a point; the rest of the defense is also culpable. Neither of those were like the Liverpool goal, where it was just entirely Howard's fault.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 12:16:50 AM
horrible dive that Gerard
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on October 25, 2015, 12:17:17 AM
Looked every bit a foul but replay says otherwise tbh
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on October 25, 2015, 12:17:43 AM
Need to up the tempo.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 12:17:51 AM
Actually think we've played quite well.

Just let down by the usual suspect.

Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 25, 2015, 12:18:37 AM
Howard definitely at fault for the first, less so for the second. But he also has a point; the rest of the defense is also culpable. Neither of those were like the Liverpool goal, where it was just entirely Howard's fault.

The second was completely his fault.  Cross was 4 yards out and yet again he stood on his line fucking watching
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on October 25, 2015, 12:18:42 AM
Odd half. Thought we played well in patches. Terrible goals to concede but we have a lifeline...can we build on it is the question.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheTone on October 25, 2015, 12:18:59 AM
we need Howard to produce a a performance of 'american president phone call' proportions here

we'd be better off with the american president in goal, fuck off howard
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 25, 2015, 12:19:01 AM
Deulefou needs to bin this diving

Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on October 25, 2015, 12:19:04 AM
Not too make out like he's a reason behind any of this at all, because he's not. But Lennon is really average isn't he, I'd like too see Mirralas on soon for him
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on October 25, 2015, 12:19:06 AM
Send a message out Bobby and sub the fucker
Howard that is
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheBlueBrony on October 25, 2015, 12:19:13 AM
Collins' Dictionary's definition of Irony is Arsenal fans booing a player for diving.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 25, 2015, 12:19:18 AM
Deulofeu's pass was a brilliant spot, and brilliantly executed as well

I was typing my moan at the time. He just needs some sense. When its not working he tries the more and more outlandish rather than getting the basics right 1st. He unbelieavbly talented but thick as pigshit
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 25, 2015, 12:19:25 AM
Howard definitely at fault for the first, less so for the second. But he also has a point; the rest of the defense is also culpable. Neither of those were like the Liverpool goal, where it was just entirely Howard's fault.

no not having it, doesnt matter about the defense, once the cross comes in, as a goal keeper, you go to the ball, you clobber the striker. So its DIRECTLY his fault. again. no excuses anymore, im fed up of it and cant be arsed discussing it.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on October 25, 2015, 12:19:37 AM
Actually think we've played quite well.

Just let down by the usual suspect.

We pissed about a bit at the back for the second goal, never like to see that.

You are right about Howard though, his time here is beyond up.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 25, 2015, 12:19:49 AM
Mirallas on for Howard, Lennon in goal.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 25, 2015, 12:19:58 AM
I have defended Howard a lot in the past but let's be honest he's been shocking today again. Honestly think Robles deserves a shot at the moment and I have no faith in him either.

Arsenal should have destroyed us by now, it's a miracle we are still in this. Thought Barkley had been particularly poor before the goal, he's losing the ball too much. Having Lennon on the left isn't really slowing them down, be tempted to switch him and Deulofeu round and give them something more to think about.

Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on October 25, 2015, 12:20:01 AM
Not too make out like he's a reason behind any of this at all, because he's not. But Lennon is really average isn't he, I'd like too see Mirralas on soon for him

Criminal how underutilized Mirralas has been so far this season. My biggest gripe with Martinez.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on October 25, 2015, 12:20:35 AM
Mirallas on for Howard, Lennon in goal.
He'd do a better fucking job
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on October 25, 2015, 12:20:48 AM
The second was completely his fault.  Cross was 4 yards out and yet again he stood on his line fucking watching

He wasn't stood on his line. He was punching thin air while the ball was already in the net. Equally as shit though.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 25, 2015, 12:20:59 AM
Stood out a mile that Arsenal have done their homework, and identified our weak link.  They've closed the star jumping imbecile down since the first kick, and peppered us with crosses and set pieces which is completely un-Arsenal like.

They knew Howard is the weak link, and was just a matter of time until he fucked up
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: blargins on October 25, 2015, 12:21:10 AM
Mirallas on for Howard, Lennon in goal.

Jags is good in goal.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on October 25, 2015, 12:21:27 AM
If we don't make a change at the end of the season then our better players are definitely off elsewhere. Nothing has been addressed defensively from last season and it's not looking likely to change. This is meant to be Martinez make or break season, if it's similar to the last one then he has to go.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 25, 2015, 12:21:32 AM
We need a new quailty keeper. Howard isnt a top half keeper (probably worse than even that) and Robles barring a little form is a liability and not a top flight keeper. Fear hearing Martinez talk we might have 2 or 3 more seasons of these 2
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on October 25, 2015, 12:21:38 AM
no not having it, doesnt matter about the defense, once the cross comes in, as a goal keeper, you go to the ball, you clobber the striker. So its DIRECTLY his fault. again. no excuses anymore, im fed up of it and cant be arsed discussing it.

I am not defending him - not disagreeing with you that Howard should have done loads better. Just saying we should not completely let the rest of the defense off of the hook. Don't see why that is so unreasonable.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 12:21:43 AM
I have defended Howard a lot in the past but let's be honest he's been shocking today again. Honestly think Robles deserves a shot at the moment and I have no faith in him either.

Arsenal should have destroyed us by now, it's a miracle we are still in this. Thought Barkley had been particularly poor before the goal, he's losing the ball too much. Having Lennon on the left isn't really slowing them down, be tempted to switch him and Deulofeu round and give them something more to think about.



Have arsenal had any shots on target apart from the goals?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Trowel on October 25, 2015, 12:21:43 AM
The second was completely his fault.  Cross was 4 yards out and yet again he stood on his line fucking watching
Every single corner plus that free kick has been met by an Arsenal head. 10 players not doing their job in the first instance leads to opportunities for Howard to not do his.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 25, 2015, 12:23:22 AM
Gulf in class is laughable, sadly.

That's what you'd expect when some of their players are on £150k+ a week.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 25, 2015, 12:24:07 AM
Not too make out like he's a reason behind any of this at all, because he's not. But Lennon is really average isn't he, I'd like too see Mirralas on soon for him

Lennon is bang average but hard working Mirallas and Deulofeu are capable of special moments but are mainly well sort of bang average.

Are wingers are poor (I know no one really agrees) Most decent teams have wingers with a bit of magic and some basic level of consistancy of performance
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 25, 2015, 12:24:12 AM
Have arsenal had any shots on target apart from the goals?

No that's what baffling, they were so far beyond us this half.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 25, 2015, 12:24:23 AM
Aye, it helps having two £40m players in your midfield.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on October 25, 2015, 12:24:37 AM
Watch that replay again, jags screaming at him to fucking come.... Dick
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 12:24:50 AM
Jags and stones need to take responsibility on these set pieces
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 12:25:15 AM
Jags and stones need to take responsibility on these set pieces

they need to be told to
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 12:25:35 AM
No that's what baffling, they were so far beyond us this half.

I don't think they were at all.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on October 25, 2015, 12:25:35 AM
I've done 2-2 Barkley in the prediction league... Fear not 😀
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 25, 2015, 12:25:47 AM
Have arsenal had any shots on target apart from the goals?

No just stuck a Tim Howard no saves stat up
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on October 25, 2015, 12:26:10 AM
It's been the same for the past season and a half that set pieces/crosses are a major downfall of this team. It's hard to understand why there hasn't been any progress to the standard in which we defend them.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 12:26:23 AM
they need to be told to

If our centre backs need to be told then that's a problem
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 25, 2015, 12:27:09 AM
It's been the same for the past season and a half that set pieces/crosses are a major downfall of this team. It's hard to understand why there hasn't been any progress to the standard in which we defend them.

Cos the prick of a manager won't advocate practising them
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheTone on October 25, 2015, 12:27:30 AM
we're having this 3-2 arnt we

howard saves penalty in last minute
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 25, 2015, 12:27:55 AM
We all slaughter Howard when he continually fails us, and I do it more than most, but it's the manager who continues to pick him. It's the manager who took Robles out of the team after a few clean sheets. It's the manager who hasn't bought a goalkeeper.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 25, 2015, 12:27:59 AM
Frustrating we shot ourselves in the foot a bit, especially after we'd worked our way into the game. But that's Arsenal for you; they create clear cut chances every game, so hard to shut them out for 90mins. Need to get into them 2nd half - really test their defence. Mirallas to be the hero?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: 74Blue on October 25, 2015, 12:29:00 AM
Fucking pissed off even trying to defend that fucking clown we have in goal. He's fucking wank! Why does he insist on jumping away from the fucking ball all the time, the soft cunt! Come off your fucking line occasionally and clatter the striker you fucking shithouse!
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 12:29:02 AM
As a whole, would we be any worse off with robles?

Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheBlueBrony on October 25, 2015, 12:31:03 AM
As a whole, would we be any worse off with robles?


Had a decent run of games last year when Howard was injured. This could be his time.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Fern on October 25, 2015, 12:31:08 AM
As a whole, would we be any worse off with robles?



He'd be just as bad. It's a major failing we couldn't sign a keeper and striker during summer.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on October 25, 2015, 12:31:19 AM
Nothing will change second half, we will still lose this.

Shame as we should be getting excited about being back in it.

Just can't "Trust" this team.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: christiffa25 on October 25, 2015, 12:31:31 AM
I'm not saying Howard is blameless BUT you can't blame the GK that every game we are shocking at basic defending and winning free kicks/corners.

The problem is Martinez!! Howard has always been the same yet we didn't ship goals under Moyes regime like we do under Martinez.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Cuttyblue on October 25, 2015, 12:31:59 AM
Been saying now for 2 years, we need a new keeper.

That being said, 1st was Jags asleep and 2nd... How can Kocielny run past 4 of our defenders unnoticed?

Sort it Bobby; your lack of sound defence will mean your job someday
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Fern on October 25, 2015, 12:32:04 AM
I just hope we concentrate re defending in 2nd half and not concede in 1st 10mins.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: GLewis on October 25, 2015, 12:32:11 AM
If we all know Howard is poor on crosses, why are we letting Ozil just stop and pick his head up under no pressure?

Why are we losing the ball on the edge of our own box after just conceding and having to give a free kick away in a very dangerous area?

We're too easy to get chances against.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: chang on October 25, 2015, 12:32:11 AM
they need to be told to

Should it not come naturally, instinct?

It is hugely frustrating that we rarely seem to win a header at either end of the pitch, especially for such a tall team
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: 74Blue on October 25, 2015, 12:32:16 AM
As a whole, would we be any worse off with robles?


No we wouldn't. Robles isn't the answer by any stretch of the imagination, but he mist wonder what the fuck he has to do to get a game when he sees that fucking clown getting picked ahead of him every week and making the same old fuck ups time after time.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: blob on October 25, 2015, 12:32:22 AM
As a whole, would we be any worse off with robles?



yes. howard is poor, but robles is shite. we need a new keeper...at least.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on October 25, 2015, 12:32:52 AM
Fucking pissed off even trying to defend that fucking clown we have in goal. He's fucking wank! Why does he insist on jumping away from the fucking ball all the time, the soft cunt! Come off your fucking line occasionally and clatter the striker you fucking shithouse!
Agreed
He is fucking massive, ripped, yet acts like a little girl
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 25, 2015, 12:33:14 AM
any changes?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: GLewis on October 25, 2015, 12:33:23 AM
Had a decent run of games last year when Howard was injured. This could be his time.

He still made howlers he was just bailed out.

He's made mistakes this season when he's played too.

Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: kramer0 on October 25, 2015, 12:33:32 AM
I've been a Howard apologist at times but I just can't defend him any more.

While I agree that our defending of set plays, in general, is poor, if you look around the league, you won't find many units that defend well when the ball is constantly dropped into their six yard box. Our opponents know that Howard isn't going to claim many balls in that area so there's nothing to discourage them from putting it in there over and over.

Robles won't solve the issue -- he's just as weak as Howard in those situations, maybe even weaker. We desperately need new blood at goalkeeper.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on October 25, 2015, 12:34:14 AM
Watch that replay again, jags screaming at him to fucking come.... Dick
Stones screamed at him after the first goal and just stared at him after the second. He's got to be close to losing his team-mates with his clown-like performances.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 12:36:09 AM
Jags has done his knee here
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on October 25, 2015, 12:36:36 AM
Again, PISSING ABOUT AT THE BACK.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 25, 2015, 12:36:43 AM
Jags is done
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 12:37:01 AM
Hopefully he's just banged his knee.

Hurts like fuck that
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 12:37:27 AM
Hopefully he's just banged his knee.

Hurts like fuck that

no contact at knee level, looked more like a twist
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on October 25, 2015, 12:38:03 AM
No we wouldn't. Robles isn't the answer by any stretch of the imagination, but he mist wonder what the fuck he has to do to get a game when he sees that fucking clown getting picked ahead of him every week and making the same old fuck ups time after time.

To be honest Robles strikes me as a bit of a village idiot who's just grateful to be coining £20k/week
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 12:38:16 AM
Coleman desperate to get a goal

looks better than he did last week
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on October 25, 2015, 12:38:53 AM
Dang. Hope Jagielka isn't too bad. Could be a serious one :(
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 12:39:00 AM
Funes Mori coming on
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 25, 2015, 12:39:07 AM
Stones screamed at him after the first goal and just stared at him after the second. He's got to be close to losing his team-mates with his clown-like performances.

didnt see this...
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 12:39:40 AM
He's been shit anyway.

Howard as captain?

Sake
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 25, 2015, 12:39:43 AM
And the captains armband goes to Howard.  You couldn't make it up lolol
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on October 25, 2015, 12:39:46 AM
Ha. Howard captain now...
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 25, 2015, 12:39:52 AM
To be honest Robles strikes me as a bit of a village idiot who's just grateful to be coining £20k/week

Me too. Im not confident that hes not going to punch the back passes. Even the simpliest of catches end up punched to the edge of our area
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 25, 2015, 12:40:05 AM
hahahahahahahahahahaha Howard captain
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 12:40:12 AM
the fuck was Barkley doing there?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on October 25, 2015, 12:40:19 AM
Fair play to Howard for that one like
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on October 25, 2015, 12:40:22 AM
Is it the same knee he done once before?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 12:42:21 AM
Mind blowing some of our passing
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 25, 2015, 12:42:29 AM
Think I almost glad Mori has come on, not because I wanted Jags injured obviously but both he and Stones have been poor.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: wepull on October 25, 2015, 12:45:26 AM
 is the passing from the back so poor or that no one is showing up for the ball?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: irishtoffee on October 25, 2015, 12:45:28 AM
I've only been in since half time but Lennon has barely touched the ball.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on October 25, 2015, 12:46:26 AM
I've only been in since half time but Lennon has barely touched the ball.
not much different to the first
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: blargins on October 25, 2015, 12:46:52 AM
Is it me, or is this game dragging?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 25, 2015, 12:47:19 AM
I would put Mirallas & Kone on now.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on October 25, 2015, 12:47:23 AM
not much different to the first
I didn't think he was that bad 1st half tbh
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Redartin on October 25, 2015, 12:48:59 AM
During the half time analysis no one blamed Howard. They talked about quality of crosses etc. Stones got blamed for losing his man and letting him go for the first goal.

But, hey, what the fuck do they know, they are only ex premier league players.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 12:48:59 AM
poor control from Barkley that

after another great ball from Deulofeu
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on October 25, 2015, 12:49:03 AM
I didn't think he was that bad 1st half tbh
not bad, no. Just not really in his game. That said he's covered defensively a fair bit
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on October 25, 2015, 12:49:03 AM
I would put Mirallas & Kone on now.

100% Agree. Doubt will see both today though. Naismith will get a look in.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 25, 2015, 12:49:20 AM
Decision making in the final third is atrocious
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on October 25, 2015, 12:49:36 AM
Deulofeu is a fucking embarrassment with these dives.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Amata on October 25, 2015, 12:49:44 AM
Like a u8's game this. All our players running after the man with the ball and cant get it off him
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 25, 2015, 12:49:51 AM
is the passing from the back so poor or that no one is showing up for the ball?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Alex6691 on October 25, 2015, 12:50:20 AM
Who's the oxelaide-chamberlain lookalike with the Rusev beard in their midfield?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 25, 2015, 12:50:26 AM
100% Agree. Doubt will see both today though. Naismith will get a look in.

hope not, we dont need a scapper, we need some class, someone who can make something out of nothing!
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 25, 2015, 12:50:45 AM
Can we have Kone for Lennon please
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: wepull on October 25, 2015, 12:50:48 AM
It's not like we are dominating the match... We can make a few changes Martinez
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 12:51:12 AM
Who's the oxelaide-chamberlain lookalike with the Rusev beard in their midfield?

Cocquelin
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 25, 2015, 12:51:13 AM
is the passing from the back so poor or that no one is showing up for the ball?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on October 25, 2015, 12:51:33 AM
Make a change before it's too late
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on October 25, 2015, 12:51:43 AM
Who's the oxelaide-chamberlain lookalike with the Rusev beard in their midfield?
coq au vin
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TrevorSteven on October 25, 2015, 12:52:08 AM
The biggest difference in class is that our players dont know what to do when they get the ball in tight situations, while the Arsenal players know the next move before they get the ball.

They have more creativity, flair and technique.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: GLewis on October 25, 2015, 12:53:00 AM
For a passing team we are pretty rubbish at passing the ball.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on October 25, 2015, 12:53:30 AM
I think the Lennon experiment has failed. Time to cut short his loan and send him back.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 12:53:35 AM
Barry gets pulled back

Barry then pulls the opponent back

free kick to Arsenal
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 12:54:03 AM
For a passing team we are pretty rubbish at passing the ball.

except Deulofeu

some of his passes have been phenomenal!
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on October 25, 2015, 12:54:07 AM
Arsenal fans love a little boo don't they the little cockney fuckers
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on October 25, 2015, 12:54:23 AM
Subs... please.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 12:54:24 AM
Mirallas coming on!
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: GLewis on October 25, 2015, 12:54:31 AM
Galloway runs on the inside too much.

He needs to open the play by going outside of the man with the ball.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 25, 2015, 12:54:46 AM
Shite that Barkley
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: AllyBlue14 on October 25, 2015, 12:55:03 AM
Barry gets pulled back

Barry then pulls the opponent back

free kick to Arsenal

Did that not happen in the first half too? Lennon blocks Sanchez, free kick. They block Deulofeu, play on (although I only saw it once)
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 25, 2015, 12:55:10 AM
Deulofeu's been the only high point really.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Amata on October 25, 2015, 12:55:11 AM
Hopefully its for Lennon not Geri.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on October 25, 2015, 12:55:28 AM
Del a country mile better than anyone else in blue
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on October 25, 2015, 12:55:54 AM
Galloway runs on the inside too much.

He needs to open the play by going outside of the man with the ball.

This game has once again emphasized how great of a CB he will be in the future but how badly we need an attacking LB again. He offers so little going forward.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 25, 2015, 12:56:01 AM
The biggest difference in class is that our players dont know what to do when they get the ball in tight situations, while the Arsenal players know the next move before they get the ball.

They have more creativity, flair and technique.

Its the movement for me. Its not the passing so much as theres always so much on for them to find. The passing becomes easy if youve loads of great movement
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on October 25, 2015, 12:56:15 AM
Lukaku has been bullied all game. Embarrassing.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on October 25, 2015, 12:56:57 AM
Del a country mile better than anyone else in blue

He is at his best when he comes inside frequently, and he has been so a lot today.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on October 25, 2015, 12:57:06 AM
I'd take lukaku off for Kone. He's trying too hard too be drogba but he he can't hack it
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 25, 2015, 12:57:33 AM
Lukaku has been bullied all game. Embarrassing.

Been shocking since that 25 minutes against WBA (again)
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on October 25, 2015, 12:57:51 AM
Wow, this Arsenal crowd are utter bells aren't they
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 12:57:51 AM
you can tell Lukaku hasn't been in the game when the first time he's caught offside is in the 70th minute
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 12:58:31 AM
nice to announce that you're stuck in London there
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 25, 2015, 12:59:03 AM
I miss Osman.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 12:59:40 AM
Lukaku is injured
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 01:00:34 AM
I miss Osman.

So do I mate, so do I.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 01:01:22 AM
Mccarthy has played well
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Redartin on October 25, 2015, 01:01:45 AM
I think Arsenal are starting to tire. The after effects of the Munich game.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on October 25, 2015, 01:02:17 AM
What is Lukaku moaning at there.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 25, 2015, 01:02:51 AM
Mccarthy has played well

He's pushed forward a bit more which is what he needs to do.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 25, 2015, 01:03:23 AM
A Mirallas offside, normal service resumed.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 25, 2015, 01:04:09 AM
What is Lukaku moaning at there.

Having to move?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 01:05:26 AM
good bit of pressure this

come on Everton!
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on October 25, 2015, 01:06:02 AM
So cunting close!
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 01:06:03 AM
Why is Mirallas wearing a black armband?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 25, 2015, 01:06:05 AM
Unlucky lovely ball in.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 25, 2015, 01:06:13 AM
Should be level, piss poor from a free header
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 01:06:17 AM
should have scored that
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on October 25, 2015, 01:06:27 AM
How is that not a fucking foul
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on October 25, 2015, 01:07:12 AM
Romelu Romelu Romelu, so close.
Should have buried that header
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on October 25, 2015, 01:07:20 AM
It's got a smarmy 3-1 written all over this
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 01:07:37 AM
I'm confused.

I'm sure some players are wearing black armbands and some aren't
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 25, 2015, 01:08:05 AM
I'm confused.

I'm sure some players are wearing black armbands and some aren't

Clubshop probably ran out
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 25, 2015, 01:08:18 AM
Why is Mirallas wearing a black armband?

? they all are, for Kendall.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on October 25, 2015, 01:08:34 AM
Ox taking 15 minutes to walk off the pitch
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 25, 2015, 01:08:46 AM
should be 2-2, not even arsed really.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: wepull on October 25, 2015, 01:08:46 AM
Can we replace McCarthy or is he not allowed to be substituted?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Alex6691 on October 25, 2015, 01:09:27 AM
Why is Mirallas wearing a black armband?
The death of his first team career
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 25, 2015, 01:09:42 AM
A few of our players lose the ball and turn into petulant fuckers rather than just getting on with it and winning it back.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 01:10:29 AM
The death of his first team career

Haha

Nice one for that. Cheered me up
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 25, 2015, 01:11:09 AM
WTF was Coleman doing there
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 25, 2015, 01:11:27 AM
I'm confused.

I'm sure some players are wearing black armbands and some aren't
Kitbag deal
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 25, 2015, 01:13:17 AM
Fucking hell Geri, twat it
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 01:13:22 AM
another goal we should have scored

fuck sake Gerard!
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on October 25, 2015, 01:13:50 AM
How did he not bury that?!?!
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 25, 2015, 01:13:55 AM
FUCK OFF EVERTON SHItHOUSES
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 01:14:30 AM
His finishing is poor
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 01:15:09 AM
did Monreal really just tell the ref he wasn't fouled?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on October 25, 2015, 01:15:36 AM
Arsenal are a total myth.

And they are as snide as they come.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Trowel on October 25, 2015, 01:15:42 AM
Fucking hell, he's a great player but he has the attitude of a 13 year old girl.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 25, 2015, 01:16:15 AM
Alan Smith just said then "A good goalie can save you 10 points a season" when he saved from Deulofeu

Our prick has already cost us about 15
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 25, 2015, 01:16:49 AM
Deulofeu's finishing has always been a bit shit. Mirallas has made a big difference since he came on, hope that means he might actually get a game soon.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on October 25, 2015, 01:17:01 AM
Why do we always stay with two DMs when we are down late?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 25, 2015, 01:17:32 AM
I'm a shit fan - I was ready to turn this off before Ross scored. To be fair we've given it a good go 2nd half. Just so frustrating to concede our goals the way we did. Plenty of positives though.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on October 25, 2015, 01:17:41 AM
So we make an attacking move bringing a defender off for a striker and the first thing we do is back off so much that they almost score a third.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 01:18:00 AM
go ed Mirallas!
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Trowel on October 25, 2015, 01:18:12 AM
Why do we always stay with two DMs when we are down late?
Photographs of Martinez in a compromising position.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on October 25, 2015, 01:18:16 AM
What is Mirallas doing?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 25, 2015, 01:18:49 AM
What is Mirallas doing?

Being arsed, it's nice to see.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Amata on October 25, 2015, 01:19:38 AM
We are really poor
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on October 25, 2015, 01:19:57 AM
Being arsed, it's nice to see.

Or nearly getting us in trouble.

There's a thin dividing line.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 25, 2015, 01:20:01 AM
wish Mirallas would take his sexy face and smash Howard back to america.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 01:20:14 AM
fucking hell
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 25, 2015, 01:20:54 AM
and there's Barry's red card
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Trowel on October 25, 2015, 01:21:00 AM
Mason loved that.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 25, 2015, 01:21:04 AM
Pity that wasnt a straight red
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 25, 2015, 01:21:11 AM
Well at least that's Barry and Mc Carthy split up for a game or two
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Lxxx on October 25, 2015, 01:21:22 AM
Regulation defeat really.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on October 25, 2015, 01:21:33 AM
2dms on he takes Coleman off. He brings a striker on in the 89th min. And drops Mirralas too RB. Martinez hasn't got a fucking clue needs sacking
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on October 25, 2015, 01:21:33 AM
He almost came getting that card out didn't he
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Amata on October 25, 2015, 01:21:41 AM
Shite that.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 01:22:07 AM
Wasn't as bad as people on here are going to make out it was
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 01:23:02 AM
Martinez needs sacking for getting beat to one of the best teams in the league
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on October 25, 2015, 01:23:06 AM
Thanks to Timmy Tourette's my weekends ruined..... Cunt
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on October 25, 2015, 01:23:50 AM
Wasn't as bad as people on here are going to make out it was

As a team we were alright. But frustrating the goals we gave away.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 25, 2015, 01:23:56 AM
Standard. 
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on October 25, 2015, 01:24:24 AM
Much improved second half.

Probably one of the toughest games Arsenal will have all season, apart from that embarrassing end to the first half and Howard being shite I thought we did ok.

Just not clinical enough in the final third tonight, again a few first touches and the right decision was out.

Could have, and probably should have been an awful lot worse than how it turned out.

Does Barry miss the carling cup game or is it only league?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Redartin on October 25, 2015, 01:24:26 AM
Wasn't as bad as people on here are going to make out it was

Agree fairly even game away from home against the League leaders.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 25, 2015, 01:24:37 AM
2dms on he takes Coleman off. He brings a striker on in the 89th min. And drops Mirralas too RB. Martinez hasn't got a fucking clue needs sacking

McCarthy went to right back.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Trowel on October 25, 2015, 01:24:51 AM
Martinez needs sacking for getting beat to one of the best teams in the league
Great run of games coming up now to the New Year, a lot of toughies done. Seen enough in the squad to be confident of a good run of points.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 25, 2015, 01:25:23 AM
Can we start playing shit teams now please?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: dekko on October 25, 2015, 01:25:25 AM
if we had Cech and they had Howard, we would've won 4-0.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: blob on October 25, 2015, 01:25:40 AM
thought we played much better in the 2nd half...pity about the first.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on October 25, 2015, 01:26:03 AM
Well the tough start of 10 games is now over, now the real test starts for Martinez. Don't play any of the big sides until next year now.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on October 25, 2015, 01:26:54 AM
Wasn't as bad as people on here are going to make out it was
Agree mate
Second half was a big improvement on a largely lacklustre first. We were set to hold them first half and the goalkeeping let us down somewhat. Pretty good second half though - very even and unlucky that poor finishing saw us not score
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 25, 2015, 01:27:24 AM
Wasn't as bad as people on here are going to make out it was

Piss poor finishing aside, and the starjumping tit in goal aside, I agree.

However, the next four league games, if we don't get at least 9 points, Martinez has to be on his way out.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on October 25, 2015, 01:27:33 AM
2-1 defeat isn't bad seeing as we played the first half without a keeper.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 25, 2015, 01:27:51 AM
Thank fuck those 10 matches are over.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: wepull on October 25, 2015, 01:28:39 AM
Wow we were so poor in our passing.

Barkley was piss poor today.   Our subs seems quite premeditated. We needed to bring Osman to give barkley support in the centre.

In the end we were left with a hope for an equaliser and almost got one but we deserved nothing out of this game.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 01:28:39 AM
Piss poor finishing aside, and the starjumping tit in goal aside, I agree.

However, the next four league games, if we don't get at least 9 points, Martinez has to be on his way out.

Yeah. Next couple of games is where we're going to find out where we really are as a team.

Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on October 25, 2015, 01:28:49 AM
only difference in that game was Howard v Cech , oh and Giroud constant backing in
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 25, 2015, 01:28:53 AM
2-1 defeat isn't bad seeing as we played the first half without a keeper.

Might as well play goalie in and out as continue with this tit
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: christiffa25 on October 25, 2015, 01:30:43 AM
Agree mate
Second half was a big improvement on a largely lacklustre first. We were set to hold them first half and the goalkeeping let us down somewhat. Pretty good second half though - very even and unlucky that poor finishing saw us not score

It wasn't in the end No but if basic defensive methods were worked on in training we wouldn't be finding ourselves constantly shipping needless goals.

Credit where credits due tho. I truly believe arsenal are a cracking team!
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on October 25, 2015, 01:30:52 AM
Why did I expect anything different?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: brittcop1 on October 25, 2015, 01:31:58 AM
Wasn't as bad as people on here are going to make out it was

I agree....some people on here are frikkin delusional! We lost 2-1 at Arsenal..we got beat by Man City and Man Utd...why the f**k should we honestly have any REAL expectation that we should beat these teams?...this isn't 1985! Yes we gave away ANOTHER two shitty headers in the 6 yard box...We all know Howard has no balls when it comes to taking charge of his area. Good news is the team kept on fighting on the road at Arsenal and could've got a point. More good news is MORI looks very comfortable as a center back in the EPL. Every team outside of the Sky 4 or 5 are destined to fight out between 5th and 12th...that is who we are in today's Premier League...its not necessarily a good thing or a bad thing, it is just a fact. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. 
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: christiffa25 on October 25, 2015, 01:31:59 AM
only difference in that game was Howard v Cech , oh and Giroud constant backing in

Lukaku should take note.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 01:35:27 AM
Didn't Giroud look lovely in the rain.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Fern on October 25, 2015, 01:36:20 AM
Wow we were so poor in our passing.

Barkley was piss poor today.   Our subs seems quite premeditated. We needed to bring Osman to give barkley support in the centre.

In the end we were left with a hope for an equaliser and almost got one but we deserved nothing out of this game.

Barkley was poor? You sure you weren't watching rugby? Wow.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on October 25, 2015, 01:36:28 AM
On a side note...
Mori looks great - impressed so far and quite relaxed about the guy after some initial nerves
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: christiffa25 on October 25, 2015, 01:38:05 AM
People voting for Galloway MOTM seriously?

Don't get me wrong the lad has done brilliantly coming in at such a young age and performing well, sometimes very well BUT I'd have to say today against a top side he came short imo(not his fault) but having a fit baines today could have made a big difference.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on October 25, 2015, 01:38:46 AM
Stones looks a class act when he's on the ball.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on October 25, 2015, 01:39:23 AM
Lukaku is a piss poor target man. We didnt pay all that money for this type of player. I know he sees himself as the next drogba but he doesnt have the composure. He really needs to re evaluate his game


2 successful take ons- of which both were by the corner
1 shot
0 chances created
3 arial duels won
0 tackles or interceptions
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: ihatecollina on October 25, 2015, 01:39:35 AM
Didn't Giroud look lovely in the rain.
Snap out of it ram
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: brittcop1 on October 25, 2015, 01:42:33 AM
People voting for Galloway MOTM seriously?

Don't get me wrong the lad has done brilliantly coming in at such a young age and performing well, sometimes very well BUT I'd have to say today against a top side he came short imo(not his fault) but having a fit baines today could have made a big difference.

Yeah but Baines wasnt an option for MOTM?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: plumber on October 25, 2015, 01:43:44 AM
Didn't Giroud look lovely in the rain.

I hate that prick and his moronic haircut with a passion.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 25, 2015, 01:44:18 AM
Thought we were poor first half but much, much better second across the board. We defend better and the keeper plays half decent first half and we win that. Arsenal will probably win the league, this isn't like the Man U game.

Thought Martinez got it right in terms of team selection and subs, Mirallas made a difference when he came on and Mori impresses me more and more. He's certainly no Alcaraz. Lukaku, Deulofeu, Barkley all could have got us a point there today.

Thought some of Deulofeu's passing was great today, he's really come on in that respect and it's nice that he's realised already that running through brick walls won't always be effective.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on October 25, 2015, 01:44:28 AM
People voting for Galloway MOTM seriously?

Don't get me wrong the lad has done brilliantly coming in at such a young age and performing well, sometimes very well BUT I'd have to say today against a top side he came short imo(not his fault) but having a fit baines today could have made a big difference.

He was great defensively, but he does nothing for us going forward, and you are 100% about Baines today.

Galloway is going to be a great CB and has done admirably filling in as a LB. But we need to stop acting like he is actually a great modern fullback, because he is not. This is particularly true in Everton's case because we never play, nor do we even have, a left-footed winger, so our left back needs to be able to be able to overlap and put balls into the box in order to give us width. Galloway is incapable of doing so regularly. Further, considering the passing style Martinez likes to play, we need to have a left back who can pass us out of tight situations - Galloway can't do that either, and frequently the ball goes to him and the most you can possibly hope for is that he manages to kick the ball off of the opposition for a thrown in.

Whenever Oveido or Baines are fully fit, we need them playing.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on October 25, 2015, 01:46:06 AM
Lukaku is a piss poor target man. We didnt pay all that money for this type of player. I know he sees himself as the next drogba but he doesnt have the composure. He really needs to re evaluate his game


2 successful take ons- of which both were by the corner
1 shot
0 chances created
3 arial duels won
0 tackles or interceptions


I thought he was alright today - did not have a ton of support. And is your memory so short that you can't remember how well he did holding the ball up against both Liverpool and the first half against Man United?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheTone on October 25, 2015, 01:46:36 AM
fucking arsenal cunts, I cant wait till they do their annual bottling it routine and their shithouse  fans start booing them and the calls for Wenger to be sacked start up again, absolute knob jockey curry smelling cunts
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 25, 2015, 01:47:39 AM
Lukaku wasn't great today but the issues really came from the back today.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 25, 2015, 01:49:22 AM
We Can't say piss poor finishing cost us, in that case they should have had three more too

Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Trowel on October 25, 2015, 01:52:15 AM
Never heard Martinez publicly blame Howard before, fair play.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 25, 2015, 01:53:37 AM
Never heard Martinez publicly blame Howard before, fair play.

What did he say?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Risky on October 25, 2015, 01:53:43 AM
I get people saying we'd have won without Howard, but I thought defensively we were poor in general.  We could easily have conceded 4 or 5 I thought.

Pleased with the way we played 2nd half going forward, but didn't create enough clear cut chances to say we deserved a point.  I liked the Mirallas for Lennon sub, but I thought Kone came on at least 5 minutes later than he should have done.

As others have said, the next run of games will shape our season.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 01:53:47 AM
Never heard Martinez publicly blame Howard before, fair play.

Link us up when you can.

Or post some quotes
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 25, 2015, 01:54:12 AM
Ah well, could have ended up 5-5 that but what can you do when the opposition goalie plays a blinder?

Good team Arsenal. With a little luck Everton could have beaten them today.

Get the ale in Ed lad...........

Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on October 25, 2015, 01:56:24 AM
I thought he was alright today - did not have a ton of support. And is your memory so short that you can't remember how well he did holding the ball up against both Liverpool and the first half against Man United?

Iv got alot more memories at being piss poor at it. Not only is it bad in the offensive sense. But he's allowing the ball to come back at our defence due to him wearing his boots on the wrong feet
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 01:57:22 AM
@LivEchoEFC: LIVE: "A goalkeeper with his experience will be disappointed with that" Martinez on Howard
https://t.co/hbHIHgrF52 https://t.co/sRnMB4uH2x

That's the first time I've ever heard him single out a player like that.

He's had enough hasn't he.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Trowel on October 25, 2015, 01:58:54 AM
What did he say?
Sky asked him if Howard could have done better with the goals of if they were down to the quality of the delivery. Martinez said a bit of both, but that he was disappointed with Howard not owning the 6 yard box and the defence shouldn't be leaving free men running in there.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 25, 2015, 01:00:30 AM
I get people saying we'd have won without Howard, but I thought defensively we were poor in general.  We could easily have conceded 4 or 5 I thought.

Pleased with the way we played 2nd half going forward, but didn't create enough clear cut chances to say we deserved a point.  I liked the Mirallas for Lennon sub, but I thought Kone came on at least 5 minutes later than he should have done.

As others have said, the next run of games will shape our season.

Yeah thought Jags and Stones were particularly poor first half, we looked better with Mori on.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on October 25, 2015, 01:04:09 AM
Again though, we still need to impove/ actually practice set pieces. Only team not to score one, and probably the highest goals against rating.

Them short corners badly pissed me off, no plan at all
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: GLewis on October 25, 2015, 01:23:38 AM
Yeah thought Jags and Stones were particularly poor first half, we looked better with Mori on.

Stones struggles physically against Giroud.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 01:24:37 AM
Stones and coleman have been shite since they came back
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 25, 2015, 01:25:36 AM
Stones and coleman have been shite since they came back

Yeah I would agree with that. Whether they aren't fit and sharp enough or whatever they aren't right.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on October 25, 2015, 01:27:37 AM
I wonder if Stones has been rushed back a little too soon. Funes Mori was doing quite well before.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 25, 2015, 01:29:26 AM
Stones struggles physically against Giroud.

As does Lukaku against virtually every centre back in the league.  We are too "nice" all over the pitch
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: GLewis on October 25, 2015, 01:31:16 AM
As does Lukaku against virtually every centre back in the league.  We are too "nice" all over the pitch

Well the previous 2 games he dominated the CBs but it didn't matter as no-one else was near him.

But we do lack aggression.

This is highlighted by our defending at corners which is far too flimsy.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 25, 2015, 01:36:00 AM
Arsenal were fairly average today, and they still beat us pretty comfortably.

When viewed in isolation, you might say 'they're an excellent team, they can beat anyone at home'. But they didn't play that well, and that's now 1 point out of 9 (including two home games), and it could've easily been one point out of 12 but for the fightback against West Brom.

I'm pretty livid with the manager. We're pissing away points and goals unnecessarily. People say we've got this easier run of games, but there's no guarantees that we're going to deal with them. Anyone can beat anyone in the league, and it's not going to be easy.

Also his insistence on sticking with a calamitous keeper is costing us most weeks, and is going to invite pressure on his own job if it persists.

I don't really see anything to be remotely happy with (apart from the odd individual performance) in the last three games, not to mention the toothless City performance, the shite performance away at Spurs, Watford etc. I'm surprised at the relative optimism on here.



Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 25, 2015, 01:39:36 AM
Funes Mori is fast becoming my favourite player. Cool as fuck.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 25, 2015, 01:43:14 AM
I'm glad that we fought so fucking hard in the second half.  But man, that 90 second stretch of the first half was just fucking inexcusable.

/pretty drunk from the sports bar where I watched NC State win and Everton due their unfortunate thing.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 25, 2015, 01:44:05 AM
Wasn't as bad as people on here are going to make out it was

I thought we played ok, second half especially.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 25, 2015, 01:45:10 AM
Arsenal were fairly average today, and they still beat us pretty comfortably.

When viewed in isolation, you might say 'they're an excellent team, they can beat anyone at home'. But they didn't play that well, and that's now 1 point out of 9 (including two home games), and it could've easily been one point out of 12 but for the fightback against West Brom.

I'm pretty livid with the manager. We're pissing away points and goals unnecessarily. People say we've got this easier run of games, but there's no guarantees that we're going to deal with them. Anyone can beat anyone in the league, and it's not going to be easy.

Also his insistence on sticking with a calamitous keeper is costing us most weeks, and is going to invite pressure on his own job if it persists.

I don't really see anything to be remotely happy with (apart from the odd individual performance) in the last three games, not to mention the toothless City performance, the shite performance away at Spurs, Watford etc. I'm surprised at the relative optimism on here.

Spot on, just said exactly the same in the Martinex thread
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: GLewis on October 25, 2015, 01:47:19 AM
I thought we played ok, second half especially.

We really seem to struggle to play with any intensity until the game's slipping away though.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Trowel on October 25, 2015, 01:55:52 AM
Funes Mori is fast becoming my favourite player. Cool as fuck.
Err.

https://twitter.com/GungaChief/status/658002377275002880
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 25, 2015, 02:02:41 AM
Err.

https://twitter.com/GungaChief/status/658002377275002880

Hopefully that's a superman gesture and not a Nazi salute, although a lot of them did flee to South America....
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: charlatan on October 25, 2015, 02:03:12 AM
Who the fuck has been voting for the star jumping tit in goal for MOM?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Cozzie on October 25, 2015, 02:06:06 AM
Err.

https://twitter.com/GungaChief/status/658002377275002880

Haha, fast becoming one of my favorite players, I was totally wrong about him.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on October 25, 2015, 02:07:12 AM
OK Arsenal are a good team, but that game was clearly winnable as have other games against them down there.

Not being able to take our chances and win at these grounds is like the glass-ceiling and we still show no sign of breaking through it.

(Even the win at Man U the other year was only 'cos Moyes had them in a mess).

New season, same problem.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: velimski on October 25, 2015, 02:11:11 AM
I thought we played ok, second half especially.

Agreed. We carved out 3 decent opportunities in the 2nd half. 1st half we were poor though.

That said, Arsenal did have quite a few chances to increase their lead.

Thought Kone should have come on earlier. Mirallas too. In fact he should be starting games asap.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on October 25, 2015, 02:16:44 AM
Who the fuck has been voting for the star jumping tit in goal for MOM?
.........people with a sense of humour  :snigger:
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: School of Science on October 25, 2015, 02:31:01 AM
Gerry for me he tried to make things happen, star in the making that lad. Galloway played very well to, tenacious. If we could have swapped keepers, we would have won that game.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on October 25, 2015, 02:58:00 AM
Iv got alot more memories at being piss poor at it. Not only is it bad in the offensive sense. But he's allowing the ball to come back at our defence due to him wearing his boots on the wrong feet

You are just seeing what you want to see. His hold up has been solid as of late, and quite exceptional against Liverpool, and there was nothing particularly bad about his play today. He also made numerous great runs behind the defense that were not picked out. Only real issue today is that he did not bury that header.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on October 25, 2015, 03:00:24 AM
Stones and coleman have been shite since they came back

What did Coleman do wrong today? He definitely got beat a few times by Martial against Man U, but I thought today he was good defensively, and certainly find going forward as well.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 25, 2015, 03:13:48 AM
Stones struggles physically against Giroud.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 25, 2015, 03:20:55 AM
OK Arsenal are a good team, but that game was clearly winnable as have other games against them down there.

Not being able to take our chances and win at these grounds is like the glass-ceiling and we still show no sign of breaking through it.

(Even the win at Man U the other year was only 'cos Moyes had them in a mess).

New season, same problem.

Are you saying we should be consistently beating better teams with better players, away?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Alex6691 on October 25, 2015, 04:17:14 AM
Any news on jags?
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Alfie Noakes on October 25, 2015, 05:53:36 AM
Arsenal were fairly average today, and they still beat us pretty comfortably.

When viewed in isolation, you might say 'they're an excellent team, they can beat anyone at home'. But they didn't play that well, and that's now 1 point out of 9 (including two home games), and it could've easily been one point out of 12 but for the fightback against West Brom.

I'm pretty livid with the manager. We're pissing away points and goals unnecessarily. People say we've got this easier run of games, but there's no guarantees that we're going to deal with them. Anyone can beat anyone in the league, and it's not going to be easy.

Also his insistence on sticking with a calamitous keeper is costing us most weeks, and is going to invite pressure on his own job if it persists.

I don't really see anything to be remotely happy with (apart from the odd individual performance) in the last three games, not to mention the toothless City performance, the shite performance away at Spurs, Watford etc. I'm surprised at the relative optimism on here.

Shut up you tart  ;)
I've got 2 words for you: Loris Karius.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: md49vd on October 25, 2015, 09:47:45 AM
when courtois returns from injury and begovic returns to being second fiddle for the next few years we should buy begovic.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: GLewis on October 25, 2015, 01:56:06 PM
when courtois returns from injury and begovic returns to being second fiddle for the next few years we should buy begovic.

While I'd be happy with Begovic, for Carroll's goal he takes a couple of steps forward, stops and gets caught in no-man's land and can't get near the header.

That's the kind of mistake where your not bothered if it's for someone else, but sticks in your mind if it's your keeper.

Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: BlueNoseMike on October 25, 2015, 04:22:21 PM
Just watching goals on sunday and although I agree Howard could have done better, to lay all blame on him is just unfair. Kamara correctly says Stones is at fault for the 1st, not staying with Giroud's run and not taking responsibility. The second one both him and Jags just allow their defender to run through the gap. Stones should be aware of the danger.

Other than that we played pretty well I thought and I am confident going into the 'easier' games.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 25, 2015, 04:55:35 PM
Begovic isn't that good.

I reckon he's a big reason why chelsea are struggling.

Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: bluenose27 on October 25, 2015, 05:16:37 PM
Think Galloway has done really well covering for Baines but his 3 worst games have all come in our 3 defeats
He has been very indecisive in the last 2 games and have noticed the opposition using our left side to get at us.
Feel he is one for the future and still has a lot to learn should have scored yesterday and his crosses were poor.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on October 25, 2015, 06:19:17 PM
Are you saying we should be consistently beating better teams with better players, away?

No, but at least once in a while, not 20 years at Arsenal.

We have had some excellent performances in the last 10 years at Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool but turning them into just 1 win aint good enough.
Title: Re: Arsenal v Everton
Post by: Fern on October 25, 2015, 08:03:57 PM
Arsenal were fairly average today, and they still beat us pretty comfortably.

When viewed in isolation, you might say 'they're an excellent team, they can beat anyone at home'. But they didn't play that well, and that's now 1 point out of 9 (including two home games), and it could've easily been one point out of 12 but for the fightback against West Brom.

I'm pretty livid with the manager. We're pissing away points and goals unnecessarily. People say we've got this easier run of games, but there's no guarantees that we're going to deal with them. Anyone can beat anyone in the league, and it's not going to be easy.

Also his insistence on sticking with a calamitous keeper is costing us most weeks, and is going to invite pressure on his own job if it persists.

I don't really see anything to be remotely happy with (apart from the odd individual performance) in the last three games, not to mention the toothless City performance, the shite performance away at Spurs, Watford etc. I'm surprised at the relative optimism on here.





Totally have to agree with all of that. Do we play Sunderland next? I feel if we lose that game then questions need to be asked. If Sherwood was under pressure at Villa then so  should Martinez be.  We really have let ourselves down in the last 2 games against luke warm top sides and looks as if we've lost that steel, determination and work rate. I'm sure he'll get us winning again though. I have faith we'll win the games we're expected to.