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Title: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Shogun on May 12, 2016, 09:15:24 PM
Genuinely looking forward to this  :shock:

Dowell from the start.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 12, 2016, 09:18:51 PM
Howard
Holgate Pennington stones baines
Mirrallas Barkley Gibson pienaar
Osman
Lukaku

Send offs for Howard, Gibson and pienaar
Probs Osman too as he levels some sort of record

Wonder if de boer came he would try to keep pienaar as a coach?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: DanDan on May 12, 2016, 09:30:15 PM
If Unsworth is in charge could see a few of the kids playing. Also could be a fair few players last game for us including Barry
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cozzie on May 12, 2016, 09:36:26 PM
Refreshingly excited about this game now, lets end it on a high after the news he has gone.

Play a few of the kids, Dowell is the main one I would like to see given the start.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Ell Capitan on May 12, 2016, 09:47:40 PM
Feels like I just got results back from an STD test and it's all come back clear. It's like a cloud has been lifted and the world is beautiful again.

Let's smash this lot and finish on a high.

Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Goaljira on May 12, 2016, 10:02:39 PM
If we were really in for De Boer, his agent wouldn't be practically begging us to take him, like some past it street corner hooker.

If we had made any moves, he'd be playing hard to get to negotiate a better price. Like one of them classy Russian hookers.
Feels like I just got results back from an STD test and it's all come back clear. It's like a cloud has been lifted and the world is beautiful again.

I'm sensing a link....
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: MIG on May 12, 2016, 10:03:03 PM
Problem for me is, if Martinez was succeeding in his first season due to working with what Moyes had built, how long will the players have the Martinez hangover effect after he has gone?
Yes the manager was shit.  But the players have been as well.  If they are suddenly good again in this game then they need to look at themselves as much as Martinez.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Rodenplav64 on May 12, 2016, 10:05:03 PM
An opportunity to say goodbye to Osman , Pienaar , Hibbert , Gibson ,  Howard , Lukaku , Stones and Barkley .
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: BlueBeagle on May 12, 2016, 10:09:41 PM
An opportunity to say goodbye to Osman , Pienaar , Hibbert , Gibson ,  Howard , Lukaku , Stones and Barkley .

Nobody is paying the money we'd demand for Barkley based on the last 5 months performances.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: bluestevie on May 12, 2016, 10:21:33 PM
Potential hostile atmosphere averted gives a chance to blood some new talent and gives the fans the opportunity to say farewell to some long (and longish) serving players

Tim Howard - very rarely do you see a goalkeeper serve 10 years at any club, despite a drop in form and conduct since his World Cup heroics in 2014, Howard should be looked back as solid keeper and has been great value for what we paid United for him to sign permanently in 2007. Will be given a hero's welcome when he goes back to the US this summer

Steven Pienaar - his second spell has been blighted by injuries but was still a popular figure and one half of one of the finest double acts in club history with Leighton Baines. Will likely go back over to the Netherlands or could do a job, providing he stays fit, for a Championship side

Leon Osman - Product of the Academy and a Youth Cup winner way back in 98, Had to wait till the tail end of Moyes' second season to break through into the first team and never looked back. Could always be relied on to do a job and scored some pretty memorable goals, namely the club's goal of the season v Larissa in 2007/08. Will likely take a drop down a division, possibly back to former loan side Derby depending on how they do in playoffs

Darron Gibson - Made a big impact when he signed during the 2012 January Transfer Window, famously bagging the winner on Deadline Day v City inbetween the club signing Nikica Jelavic and re-signing Pienaar but sadly, much like his time at United, injuries took their toll and he missed large chunks of subsequent seasons. Lucky to still be given a chance at the club following his drink driving antics, will be another to drop a division after he goes to the Euros with Ireland

Tony Hibbert - an injury has put paid to Hibbo making a farewell cameo on Sunday, another academy graduate from the same Youth Cup side as Osman, who had been an ever present in the right back role since debuting during the 1999/00 season up until Seamus Coleman returned from a loan spell at Blackpool and dislodged him. Will likely retire and take on a coaching role within the club
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Rodenplav64 on May 12, 2016, 11:26:49 PM
Nobody is paying the money we'd demand for Barkley based on the last 5 months performances.

You never know we might get lucky . The lad has turned into a wardrobe and not because of Martinez . Needs to fuck the weights off and work on his passing .
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Shogun on May 12, 2016, 11:30:27 PM
Don't see how any Evertonian would want to sell Ross Barkley.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: bacon sarnie on May 12, 2016, 11:55:09 PM
Might win this.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 12, 2016, 11:58:46 PM
You never know we might get lucky . The lad has turned into a wardrobe and not because of Martinez . Needs to fuck the weights off and work on his passing .

you want to get rid of Ross?? wouldnt listen to a word you say though, as you want us to leave Europe haha
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Thom on May 13, 2016, 12:21:35 AM
Potential sell-out crowd now that Martinez has gone?

Obviously Howard will be given some time on the pitch (whether that's from the start or not, now Martinez has been sacked), and it would be good to see Pienaar and Osman given one last hurrah in case they leave at the season's end. Maybe Gibson too, but the other three are dead certs for me. Hibbert would be there too but for his ankle ligament injury.

Possible last appearances of Stones and Lukaku too, though never say never. And a run out for Dowell and one or two other youngster would go down well with the crowd.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 13, 2016, 12:27:34 AM
you want to get rid of Ross?? wouldnt listen to a word you say though, as you want us to leave Europe haha

Leaving Europe was the best thing I ever did. It worked so well, I did it twice! hahaha
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Fynci on May 13, 2016, 12:57:36 AM
6-0 win

Dowell (6)

Season ends on a high. We all go for lovely summer holidays. De Boer comes in and spends Moyes entire budget in a couple of weeks on some huge names. Next year we win the double.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Toddacelli on May 13, 2016, 01:54:37 AM
Problem for me is, if Martinez was succeeding in his first season due to working with what Moyes had built, how long will the players have the Martinez hangover effect after he has gone?
Yes the manager was shit.  But the players have been as well.  If they are suddenly good again in this game then they need to look at themselves as much as Martinez.

I agree to a point. But if the formation, tactics and instruction for out on the pitch are completely different, then it lays a bit more of the blame at Martinez's door.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: robertdrumm1954 on May 13, 2016, 02:09:52 AM
Howard
Holgate Pennington stones baines
Mirrallas Barkley Gibson pienaar
Osman
Lukaku

Send offs for Howard, Gibson and pienaar
Probs Osman too as he levels some sort of record

Wonder if de boer came he would try to keep pienaar as a coach?
Would play Galloway at L/B.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: robertdrumm1954 on May 13, 2016, 02:12:11 AM
You never know we might get lucky . The lad has turned into a wardrobe and not because of Martinez . Needs to fuck the weights off and work on his passing .
And his fitness the lazy bastard.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on May 13, 2016, 02:46:51 AM
Agree Ross has filled out , and looks a bit too bulky, a lot of muscle needs more oxygen and he gets tired quicker, no doubt resulting in him not being able to last 90 mins , another example of poor back/room / manager training routines. Can easily be addressed.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Alanvideo on May 13, 2016, 03:13:41 AM
I reckon we ( the crowd ) will be so up for this game ,it will be the best atmosphere since we beat Chelsea 3-1 in September. That Naismith lad scored all 3 . Whatever happened to him ?  ???
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: charlatan on May 13, 2016, 04:12:33 AM
Actually looking forward to a game for the first time in months!

Steven Pienaar - his second spell has been blighted by injuries but was still a popular figure and one half of one of the finest double acts in club history with Leighton Baines.

Spot on, right up there with Steven & Stevens, Reid & Bracewell, and Limpar and Kanchelskis for me.  My favourite player since Joe Parkinson
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: howard1334 on May 13, 2016, 06:16:58 AM
Why do people want to sell Barkley? I honestly don't get that at all.

What really confuses me is those who value Stones over Barkley. So many Stones fanboys out there willing to turn on Barkley in a moment. Especially weird when Barkley is actually homegrown and he had by far and away the better season (12 goals and 11 assists) than overrated/hyped John Stones.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: TSGun on May 13, 2016, 06:28:29 AM
Why do people want to sell Barkley? I honestly don't get that at all.

Couldn't agree more. I'm hoping it's nothing more than releasing frustration.

I'd just about pack it in if he was sold.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: brap2 on May 13, 2016, 01:53:23 PM
Never sell Ross Barkley.

Just get him on a treadmill and off the barbell.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Rodenplav64 on May 13, 2016, 04:59:43 PM
Never sell Ross Barkley.

Just get him on a treadmill and off the barbell.

Maybe this would sway me . However his distribution and awareness are also shocking . I realise there are some you can't criticise but he really needs a lot of work now that the opposition have worked him out . Same thing with Stones , pressure him or lump it in the box and he looks anything but a top CH . Martinez gets lynched for not changing his tactics but maybe the players are just a bit on the thick side . Carragher pointed out the other night they just don't appear to sense danger . How many times does Ross lose possession or misplace a pass ? And a Brexit is the best thing that could happen to this country !
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: BlueBeagle on May 13, 2016, 09:28:15 PM
Ross Barkley is not "bulky" in the slightest
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 13, 2016, 09:33:20 PM
For me, Barkley only gives the ball away when trying a killer ball. His all round passing is actually very good.

He's defo an easy pick to lay into

I do think he needs to be playing deeper tho, he is better around the edge of the box coming onto the ball rather than being on it of that makes sense
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Bluedylan on May 13, 2016, 09:44:46 PM
Ross Barkley is not "bulky" in the slightest

He defo is. He's just gone a bit too far with the weights, as brap says. It's reduced his mobility a bit but it's easily addressed.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: GLewis on May 13, 2016, 09:47:11 PM

Ross Barkley is not "bulky" in the slightest

I think he does look a bit too heavy which is costing him half a yard of pace.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: BlueBeagle on May 13, 2016, 09:53:16 PM
He defo is. He's just gone a bit too far with the weights, as brap says. It's reduced his mobility a bit but it's easily addressed.

Flat chest, no shoulders, skinny arms, thin legs.

Please give me one area of the lads figure that looks "bulky" because I can't see one.

EDIT: Here's one from the other week at the semi too.

Not an ounce of unnecessary "bulk" to be seen at all. The lad weighs no more than 13 stone and that's being generous.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Major Clanger on May 13, 2016, 10:00:43 PM
Let me get this straight, are we genuinely analysing Barkley's figure? :)
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 13, 2016, 10:01:33 PM
Let me get this straight, are we genuinely analysing Barkley's figure? :)
I prefer a more curvy figure
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: BlueBeagle on May 13, 2016, 10:02:34 PM
Let me get this straight, are we genuinely analysing Barkley's figure? :)

Well yeah because he's being criticised for something that's simply not true.

The lad may have gained a stone from the beginning of last year, I don't know and I can't be arsed to check but let's remember that his body is still growing naturally even without weights.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: TheRam on May 13, 2016, 10:08:18 PM
He's got a proper fat ass.

So has Mirallas, and Baines, and jags.

Like proper stick out bums.

Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: TheRam on May 13, 2016, 10:08:41 PM
Did I really just post that?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: BlueBeagle on May 13, 2016, 10:10:14 PM
Did I really just post that?

Interesting insight into your thoughts there...
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Bluedylan on May 13, 2016, 10:10:55 PM
Flat chest, no shoulders, skinny arms, thin legs.

Please give me one area of the lads figure that looks "bulky" because I can't see one.

EDIT: Here's one from the other week at the semi too.

Not an ounce of unnecessary "bulk" to be seen at all. The lad weighs no more than 13 stone and that's being generous.

I'm not saying he's fat, I think he's too muscular (although he does have a big arse as Ram says). He just needs to do a bit more cardio and become a bit more lithe, which I would hope a new manager will realise instantly.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: BlueBeagle on May 13, 2016, 10:12:25 PM
I'm not saying he's fat, I think he's too muscular (although he does have a big arse as Ram says). He just needs to do a bit more cardio and become a bit more lithe, which I would hope a new manager will realise instantly.

I know what you're saying but I'm saying that there is zero excess muscle on his body because he looks like an upright ironing board.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Bluedylan on May 13, 2016, 10:13:40 PM
I know what you're saying but I'm saying that there is zero excess muscle on his body because he looks like an upright ironing board.

Fair enough. We disagree.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: BlueBeagle on May 13, 2016, 10:15:00 PM
Fair enough. We disagree.

I'm honestly curious as to where you see unnecessary muscle on his frame?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Major Clanger on May 13, 2016, 10:16:58 PM
This is proper end of season matchday thread feeling.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 13, 2016, 10:18:29 PM
My deal with Barkley is NOT about weight loss, it's just that he needs to focus less on strength/bulk and more on fine motor agility.  I seriously would have him doing yoga and/or ballet in the offseason.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Bluedylan on May 13, 2016, 10:20:56 PM
I'm honestly curious as to where you see unnecessary muscle on his frame?

I don't know what you want from me. It's just an impression I (and plenty of others) have of him. He doesn't look as quick or as lithe in his movements to me, and when I look at him stood next to other players, I do think he looks a bit too bulky for a footballer's ideal body type.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: BlueBeagle on May 13, 2016, 10:31:37 PM
I don't know what you want from me. It's just an impression I (and plenty of others) have of him. He doesn't look as quick or as lithe in his movements to me, and when I look at him stood next to other players, I do think he looks a bit too bulky for a footballer's ideal body type.

It's really very, very simple.

You are calling him bulky. I am asking you which part of him looks bulky to you because I see absolutely no potentially restrictive muscle mass on his body. He is tall, he is lean, he is (IMO) no way bulky.

At 6"2 and a natural athlete,  he is always going to look bigger than a scrawny little pussy like Coutinho or someone of that ilk.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Major Clanger on May 13, 2016, 10:38:24 PM
He's just got a wide, rectangular frame like a ... kitchen dresser.

At least he hasn't got a duck's arse, like some modern footballers. :)
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 13, 2016, 10:43:16 PM
I've thought the same about Barkley (too muscular & unfit) and its not just me, I've heard several people say the same...

He used to be able to sprint, drive past people, nearly run the length of the pitch... cant remember much of that for ages.

And his shorts must be the biggest since Unsworth's ...  nod 
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: BlueBeagle on May 13, 2016, 10:50:54 PM
Well the photographic evidence is there that he isn't muscle-bound in the slightest because he isn't carrying much muscle at all.

Another myth that someone starts it it gets accepted as fact like Frank Lampard being fat.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: TheRam on May 13, 2016, 10:56:18 PM
It's gone a bit mental in here
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: BlueBeagle on May 13, 2016, 10:58:12 PM
It's gone a bit mental in here

If you can't beat them, join them.

Is Ross Barkley carrying an excess amount of muscle that is hindering his performance?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: TheRam on May 13, 2016, 11:03:14 PM
If you can't beat them, join them.

Is Ross Barkley carrying am excess amount of muscle that is hindering his performance?

I believe so, yes.

But no one is qualified to have an expert opinion on it.

Looks like he's carrying a bit too much imo, same with Lukaku. The conditioning of the players was a massive problem under Martinez.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 13, 2016, 11:05:24 PM
2014
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/EddieFocus/BsRQ6jRIIAEjbPk_zpsttxh1mdy.jpg)
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: BlueBeagle on May 13, 2016, 11:07:04 PM
I believe so, yes.

But no one is qualified to have an expert opinion on it.

Looks like he's carrying a bit too much imo, same with Lukaku. The conditioning of the players was a massive problem under Martinez.

Fair enough then, I'm clearly in the minority here (well, totally alone!). Maybe I'm biased because I train for size and really can't see it on him myself lolol
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: BlueBeagle on May 13, 2016, 11:09:26 PM
2014
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/EddieFocus/BsRQ6jRIIAEjbPk_zpsttxh1mdy.jpg)

Lean - Yes
Big - Not in the slightest

Most footballers have that exact physique as they are Sub-10% body fat making any amount of muscle appear greatly exaggerated. Google Phil Neville Shirt off and you'll see.

EDIT: That cunt next to him is in decent nick for his age lolol
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 13, 2016, 11:12:06 PM
Late 2015

Ross Barkley: 'I want to be like Mike Tyson'
(http://i2.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/article10516485.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/TYSON-ROSCO.png)
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: TheRam on May 13, 2016, 11:13:45 PM
Fair enough then, I'm clearly in the minority here (well, totally alone!). Maybe I'm biased because I train for size and really can't see it on him myself lolol

His dad is supposed to be proper massive so it's probably genetic.

He does look lethargic and labourerd a lot of the time, but that could be other factors as well. He's got asthma, hasn't he?

That fella next to him is Gary linekers brother haha
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Gash on May 13, 2016, 11:31:08 PM
Wayne Lineker's an absolute whopper.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: BlueBeagle on May 13, 2016, 11:34:16 PM
What is his brother known for?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: TheRam on May 13, 2016, 11:36:00 PM
What is his brother known for?

Being an absolute danger in Ibiza.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: TheRam on May 13, 2016, 11:36:25 PM
It's gone a bit mental in here
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: BlueBeagle on May 13, 2016, 11:36:43 PM
Being an absolute danger in Ibiza.

Ahhhh Linekers bar! lolol
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: American Evertonian on May 14, 2016, 12:01:11 AM
2014
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/EddieFocus/BsRQ6jRIIAEjbPk_zpsttxh1mdy.jpg)

What's in the cup Bill? Is that where you stashed the Naismith money?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: bacon sarnie on May 14, 2016, 12:12:37 AM
Thought he was stood with Jimmy Savile there for a mo......fucksakes.

Talking of bulky players - muscle or otherwise - Tommy Lawrence was a decent player for his size.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 14, 2016, 12:30:09 AM
What is his brother known for?
Throwing his cock up page 3 models
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Gash on May 14, 2016, 12:50:46 AM
What is his brother known for?

Cashing in on his surname, jailed for fraud and briefly rocking up on TOWIE. Fancy's himself as a bit of a celebrity but he wouldn't even get on a Z list.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Gash on May 14, 2016, 12:53:46 AM
Oh aye, and he's suddenly become best mates with Jamie Vardy.

Mad that Gary Lineker scored all those goals but as it was before the internet the first time his name is mentioned on a matchday thread is thanks to his biff of a brother. :)
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: ally2 on May 14, 2016, 01:02:14 AM

2014
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/EddieFocus/BsRQ6jRIIAEjbPk_zpsttxh1mdy.jpg)

Well that's no good. We need a picture of his arse.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: charlatan on May 14, 2016, 01:28:03 AM
Wayne Lineker looks like exactly what he is.  I take it he lives abroad the fact Yewtree haven't investigated?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 14, 2016, 01:36:07 AM
Saw Jags interviewed about Tim Howard's last game ... said something about a few others he wont see again...

Who's he mean ... Osman, Hibbert and.. ?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: GLewis on May 14, 2016, 01:49:33 AM
Sounds promising on the young players front...

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-star-kieran-dowell-contention-11331124
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: GLewis on May 14, 2016, 01:49:53 AM

Saw Jags interviewed about Tim Howard's last game ... said something about a few others he wont see again...

Who's he mean ... Osman, Hibbert and.. ?

Pienaar?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Shogun on May 14, 2016, 02:36:26 AM
I'm going to be broken when/if Pienaar leaves.

What a footballer.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cassius on May 14, 2016, 02:54:38 AM
Can we keep the photos of half naked Everton players in Stealth's half naked Everton player of the day thread please?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: TheRam on May 14, 2016, 03:28:14 AM
I'm going to be broken when/if Pienaar leaves.

What a footballer.

Time to go.

Leave us with the memories.  The Baines/ Pienaar partnership will live long.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Bluedylan on May 14, 2016, 03:51:00 AM
We'll always compare every left hand sided combination to Bainaar from now on. It set the standard in recent times anyway (and that's one thing I'll give Moyes unreserved credit for, as well as the players). In future it'll have to be some be some combination of players to get close to them two at their best.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: charlatan on May 14, 2016, 05:54:51 AM
Pity we never got to see the right sided dream team of Hibbert and McGeady - McGibbert? lolol
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: ally2 on May 14, 2016, 06:29:52 AM
I always end up saying the same thing about Bainaar - we also conceded a lot of our goals down that side. People only remember the going forward bit. Pienaar did his defensive work but it was still a major point of vulnerability. Don't expect anyone to believe or accept it but it's true.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Rodenplav64 on May 14, 2016, 12:32:53 PM
Late 2015

Ross Barkley: 'I want to be like Mike Tyson'
(http://i2.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/article10516485.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/TYSON-ROSCO.png)

Benteke is massive .
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: TSGun on May 14, 2016, 02:00:01 PM
Such mixed emotions leading into this game.

There's plenty of reasons to be excited for the not too distant future, with all the changes afoot, but the final game always brings a tinge of sadness. That and what may be the final game for several players.

Hoping with the veil of discontent being lifted we play with a real sense of freedom and to full potential.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: starblood on May 14, 2016, 06:40:27 PM
I'm going to be broken when/if Pienaar leaves.

What a footballer.

Still think he can offer us something. Even when he's played this year he looked like a valuable contributor to me. Still the best option on the left of midfield, in front of everyone in our squad - and boy have we tried loads in his absence. Mirallas is the only one who has got close, and he was continually discounted by Roberto too (just like Pienaar).
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Alanvideo on May 14, 2016, 07:22:45 PM
Hope Mosher will be at this game and notice the change in mood of Goodison. Can't wait to see Joe and Rhino bring the team out.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 02:28:50 AM
Plenty to play for tomorrow financially as well...

Best possible position: 11th
Worst possible position: 16th

Money at stake: 6.2m

Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: American Evertonian on May 15, 2016, 04:05:36 AM
Plenty to play for tomorrow financially as well...

Best possible position: 11th
Worst possible position: 16th

Money at stake: 6.2m



Pocket change to Morishi.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Confucius on May 15, 2016, 04:17:59 AM

Pocket change to Morishi.

Morishi maybe but Moshiri would welcome it.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: ally2 on May 15, 2016, 05:21:54 AM
Team I think we will see

Howard
Coleman, Stones, Pennington, Baines
Barry, McCarthy
Lennon, Barkley, Mirallas
Lukaku

Team I'd like to see

Howard
Coleman, Stones, Funes Mori, Baines
Barry, McCarthy
Barkley, Dowell
Mirallas (central winger)
Lukaku
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 15, 2016, 05:24:50 AM
Is there such a thing as a central winger?
Never heard if that before
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: ally2 on May 15, 2016, 05:26:33 AM

Is there such a thing as a central winger?
Never heard if that before

I think so. Sounds stupid but it's like a winger who can go either side but stays out of the way of the centre. It's all gone a bit Brendan Rodgers sorry
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: ally2 on May 15, 2016, 05:28:27 AM
http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/12/03/introducing-the-central-winger/
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Ross on May 15, 2016, 05:38:19 AM
Respect is ebbing away here @ally2 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=42) ...




Are central wingers really called singers?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: GLewis on May 15, 2016, 05:45:10 AM

I think so. Sounds stupid but it's like a winger who can go either side but stays out of the way of the centre. It's all gone a bit Brendan Rodgers sorry

You could stand Mirallas out on County Road and he'd still wander into the middle of the pitch.

:)
Title: Everton v Norwich
Post by: ally2 on May 15, 2016, 05:45:39 AM
Respect is ebbing away here @ally2 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=42) ...




Are central wingers really called singers?

Maybe they get called swingers. I know there's no chance of us drumming this up in two training sessions. Just think it would be interesting. I'd like to Barkley and Dowell play together because I think they would work well together as a pair but you couldn't then have two wingers as well. The other thing is I wouldn't want Lukaku straying into wide areas which he might do (and be wasted there IMO) if he were to play as part of a front two. He should stay in the middle and we should get crosses to him from the full backs and/or Mirallas. This means having a really solid base though so that's why I went for Funes Mori over Pennington, and stayed with the Barry/McCarthy duo.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Ross on May 15, 2016, 06:01:51 AM
Maybe they get called swingers. I know there's no chance of us drumming this up in two training sessions. Just think it would be interesting. I'd like to Barkley and Dowell play together because I think they would work well together as a pair but you couldn't then have two wingers as well. The other thing is I wouldn't want Lukaku straying into wide areas which he might do (and be wasted there IMO) if he were to play as part of a front two. He should stay in the middle and we should get crosses to him from the full backs and/or Mirallas. This means having a really solid base though so that's why I went for Funes Mori over Pennington, and stayed with the Barry/McCarthy duo.

Personally I think part of our problem over the last 18 months has been the lack of pressing upfront. Not sure how this young lad Dowell plays but the thought of adding another none defensive player centrally doesn't sound great to me ally.

But fuck knows!  it wasn't that long ago on here that the hipsters were circle jerking about Baines playing as a holding midfielder.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: bluefrank on May 15, 2016, 06:38:19 AM
It'll be nice going to Goodison without feeling depressed, and leaving feeling even more depressed.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 07:48:23 AM
You could stand Mirallas out on County Road and he'd still wander into the middle of the pitch.

:)

Nobody puts Baby in a corner...
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Bob Sacamano on May 15, 2016, 01:32:24 PM
Personally I think part of our problem over the last 18 months has been the lack of pressing upfront. Not sure how this young lad Dowell plays but the thought of adding another none defensive player centrally doesn't sound great to me ally.

But fuck knows!  it wasn't that long ago on here that the hipsters were circle jerking about Baines playing as a holding midfielder.

Sounds like a central fullback to me.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Bob Sacamano on May 15, 2016, 01:33:36 PM
Totally looking forward to this. I've been quite meh about it for a while but I'm pretty pumped for this!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: fubarruk on May 15, 2016, 02:02:33 PM
Pocket change to Morishi.
Perhaps so, but by FFP, is that not 6m we potentially wouldn't be able to spend in the summer?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: TheRam on May 15, 2016, 04:41:57 PM
Totally looking forward to this. I've been quite meh about it for a while but I'm pretty pumped for this!

I'm gutted that I'm not going to be there.

Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Bluedylan on May 15, 2016, 04:45:34 PM
But fuck knows!  it wasn't that long ago on here that the hipsters were circle jerking about Baines playing as a holding midfielder.

Wasn't it your messiah that introduced that idea and took him to watch Lahm play for Bayern? You know, the fella you defended to the hilt.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Tinga on May 15, 2016, 06:41:26 PM
Dreamt last night that Martinez sneaked back into Everton and change his name to Robert Martin whilst growing a mustache. lolol Anyway, looking forward to this game. First I have for a while.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: brap2 on May 15, 2016, 07:18:17 PM
Totally looking forward to this. I've been quite meh about it for a while but I'm pretty pumped for this!

Hope it's a proper party atmosphere but could go either way really.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Thom on May 15, 2016, 07:53:14 PM
Liverpool Echo reporting that Pennington, Davies and Dowell will all start today. Would be great to see those three given a go from the off, if true.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 15, 2016, 08:00:38 PM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/731831601185849344
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Shogun on May 15, 2016, 08:03:38 PM
4-3-3 then?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 15, 2016, 08:05:01 PM
excited to see Dowel and Davies!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 08:05:18 PM
Well in Unsy for dropping Barkley and giving the lads a chance.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Ross on May 15, 2016, 08:07:06 PM
Is Connolly the young kid just promoted to the under 21's and Unsy was enthusing about the other week?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Craig_1878 on May 15, 2016, 08:14:29 PM
Really looking forward to this game, the crowd and the players will be pumped for this one for the first time in a while.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Big Nev on May 15, 2016, 08:19:40 PM
Heading down to my favourite bar in Paphos in a bit. Love watching games there.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: toffee_scot on May 15, 2016, 08:21:43 PM
Interesting team, good that Unsworth the U21 manager is in charge as he's giving a couple of the youngsters a game, plus I'd imagine Connolly and maybe even Kenny will get some game time.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Juanito on May 15, 2016, 08:23:36 PM
Streams?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: kramer0 on May 15, 2016, 08:26:17 PM
Dowell! Get in!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 15, 2016, 08:27:58 PM
What type of players are Dowell and Davies then? I've heard names, I've seen a couple of goals on FB, but don't know much else about them.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on May 15, 2016, 08:28:25 PM
Good to see Barkley on the bench. Hope Dowell or Davies have a great game so Ross can see he isn't indispensable. He can be a world beater, but he needs some tough love at the minute to bring the best out in him.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Confucius on May 15, 2016, 08:32:45 PM
Can totally see Kenwright taking the mike at the end of the game, praising Howard and Martinez and going on and on. And right at the end saying he is stepping down as chairman of our great club but his parting gift is....

As Mourinho appears in the centre circle in a puff of smoke.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cozzie on May 15, 2016, 08:34:37 PM
Any Kodi streams in advance?

I always spend ages tryna find one that works and end up missing most of the match.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cassius on May 15, 2016, 08:35:40 PM
What type of players are Dowell and Davies then? I've heard names, I've seen a couple of goals on FB, but don't know much else about them.

Dowell's a number 10 apparently - slotting into the hole nicely.

Davies a blonde bombshell box to box midfielder who isn't scared of putting a tackle in.

Is Connolly the young kid just promoted to the under 21's and Unsy was enthusing about the other week?

He was the lad who came on as sub a few weeks back when Coleman got injured and that's all I know about him.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 08:36:10 PM
Funes Mori not even on the bench.  That's unexpected.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 15, 2016, 08:40:15 PM
For all you Yankees out there, our game is live on ESQTV channel, whatever that is. Channel 72 on my Comcast.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Thom on May 15, 2016, 08:40:47 PM
https://twitter.com/nsno/status/731841268171608064
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Simon Paul on May 15, 2016, 08:44:01 PM
Club giving away USA flags too
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hannu on May 15, 2016, 08:45:55 PM
any streams guys?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: pjk on May 15, 2016, 08:50:17 PM
I'm just glad we haven't had to go through the dreadful process of laps of honour and Roberto having to wave to the crowd. That's a big embarrassment swerved there. We can get on with a game where future concerns can start to be addressed. Like Unsy playing the Kids but is there really a 5 million extra payment riding on this?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Bluedylan on May 15, 2016, 08:50:40 PM
http://sportsleague.me/everton-fc-vs-norwich-city-live-english-premier-league-15-may-2016/
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hannu on May 15, 2016, 08:52:43 PM
I'm just glad we haven't had to go through the dreadful process of laps of honour and Roberto having to wave to the crowd. That's a big embarrassment swerved there. We can get on with a game where future concerns can start to be addressed. Like Unsy playing the Kids but is there really a 5 million extra payment riding on this?

it was half a mil a position before the big money this year not sure how much now tho
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Bluedylan on May 15, 2016, 08:53:00 PM
http://www.streamendous.com/channel98.php
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: t2487 on May 15, 2016, 08:53:30 PM
No Niasse either. Assumably down to some sort of restraining order.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Gash on May 15, 2016, 08:55:29 PM
https://twitter.com/nsno/status/731841268171608064

So Hibbert and Ossie are getting new contracts. If not they surely deserve every bit as much attention as Howard.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Simon Paul on May 15, 2016, 08:55:55 PM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160515/016f3fd64edbb8417400c04517159ea4.jpg)

Speedo Mick liked Ballys chant for him!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on May 15, 2016, 08:57:45 PM
Martinez sacked. Jags no longer 'injured'.

Weird.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hill135 on May 15, 2016, 09:00:44 PM
COme on Everton let's fuck this shower of shite back down to the Championship where they belong!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hannu on May 15, 2016, 09:01:34 PM
anyone got a working stream? they all seem to be down
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Goaljira on May 15, 2016, 09:02:08 PM
Pressing!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Tinga on May 15, 2016, 09:02:19 PM
anyone got a working stream? they all seem to be down


http://sportsleague.me/everton-fc-vs-norwich-city-live-english-premier-league-15-may-2016/

Seems like a good one.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 09:03:14 PM
Obligatory Lee Fucking Mason.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hannu on May 15, 2016, 09:04:10 PM
http://sportsleague.me/everton-fc-vs-norwich-city-live-english-premier-league-15-may-2016/

Seems like a good one.

thank you
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Goaljira on May 15, 2016, 09:05:37 PM
Suspect package found at Old Trafford.  Two stands evacuated.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Gash on May 15, 2016, 09:05:42 PM
Is that the new kit on?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Goaljira on May 15, 2016, 09:07:05 PM
United match abandoned.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cassius on May 15, 2016, 09:07:14 PM
Anyone think Roberto is watching this on a dodgy stream and shouting: 'fuckers didn't show this phenomenal level of intensity under me'.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Goaljira on May 15, 2016, 09:07:30 PM
Is that the new kit on?
Yes
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cassius on May 15, 2016, 09:07:57 PM
Is that the new kit on?

Yeah. The yellow on the sleeves made me realise that.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 15, 2016, 09:08:41 PM
Yeah. The yellow on the sleeves made me realise that.

I thought that was a reflection off the Norwich shirts.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 09:09:42 PM
Suspect package found at Old Trafford.  Two stands evacuated.

Fucking Christ, humanity.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cuttyblue on May 15, 2016, 09:10:15 PM
Anyone think Roberto is watching this on a dodgy stream and shouting: 'fuckers didn't show this phenomenal level of intensity under me'.

So clear that they did indeed "down tools" on RM.

The 2nd half performance vs ManU also made the divide crystal clear
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 09:12:28 PM
Lookit Big Rom, now that he doesn't have to keep those tools in his duodenum...
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Goaljira on May 15, 2016, 09:12:36 PM
As yet unconfirmed that the 'suspect package' at old Trafford was inside Sylvain Distin's shorts.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 15, 2016, 09:12:52 PM
Lukaku seems to have done more in 12 minutes than the past month.

Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hill135 on May 15, 2016, 09:12:59 PM
Haha Unsworth encouraging them to press and straight away they win it in a good area and create a good chance on the transition.

haven't seen that in months.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Gash on May 15, 2016, 09:14:24 PM
Really lazy from Barry that to set up Lukaku, terrible attitude.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 15, 2016, 09:14:59 PM
This is like a different team in terms of passion and intensity.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 09:15:25 PM
So clear that they did indeed "down tools" on RM.

The 2nd half performance vs ManU also made the divide crystal clear

And we may never know exactly what happened, but given HOW UNANIMOUS it was, and how unlikely it is that our squad went from good pros and solid human beings to 100% across-the-board shithouses overnight...something really serious happened.  Our lads wouldn't do that lightly.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Rodenplav64 on May 15, 2016, 09:15:43 PM
Really lazy from Barry that to set up Lukaku, terrible attitude.  :whistle:

Can we not have this all day please .
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Bluedylan on May 15, 2016, 09:15:49 PM
Can hear Unsy constantly encouraging the forward players to press. What a difference it makes.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hill135 on May 15, 2016, 09:16:45 PM
the stream situation is dire.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Gash on May 15, 2016, 09:16:46 PM
Can we not have this all day please .


Sorry you're right. No more jokes on NSNO please, the serious people trying to comment.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 15, 2016, 09:17:17 PM
This is unreal the difference.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Goaljira on May 15, 2016, 09:17:17 PM
This is great this.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 09:17:59 PM
Can we not have this all day please .


This was in reference to a particularly mental thread from yesterday.  The scorn is VERY warranted.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Bluedylan on May 15, 2016, 09:18:19 PM
the stream situation is dire.

Tried this one? Absolute belter for me.

http://www.streamendous.com/channel98.php
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Rodenplav64 on May 15, 2016, 09:18:48 PM
The stream situation is worse under Unsworth .
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 15, 2016, 09:18:48 PM
the pressing, my god...joy to behold!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hill135 on May 15, 2016, 09:18:53 PM
Tried this one? Absolute belter for me.

http://www.streamendous.com/channel98.php


it's the only one i can get working and it keeps freezing. thanks though
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 09:19:09 PM
the stream situation is dire.

Nobody in the States can find fucking Esquire network.

McCarthy WOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Bob Sacamano on May 15, 2016, 09:19:16 PM
ONeil is such a fucking gobshite.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 09:19:29 PM
Yersssssssssssssssss 1-0 .
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hill135 on May 15, 2016, 09:19:38 PM
that mccarthy is shit. never looks forward.

tactical issue plain as day!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 15, 2016, 09:19:44 PM
Lovely goal.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: toffee_scot on May 15, 2016, 09:19:48 PM
We are certainly playing with a bit more urgency.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cassius on May 15, 2016, 09:19:49 PM
Who said McCarthy would look a different player under a different manager?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Goaljira on May 15, 2016, 09:19:54 PM
James McCarthy final day goal klaxon! 

And what a goal it was.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Escla on May 15, 2016, 09:20:01 PM
Can we not have this all day please .
Well said !
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 15, 2016, 09:20:40 PM
Nobody in the States can find fucking Esquire network.

McCarthy WOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have :)
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Optimistic Blue on May 15, 2016, 09:20:43 PM
If we absolutley destroy these do you think they will give Royle n Unsy the job?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 15, 2016, 09:20:44 PM
great goal! !
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 09:20:48 PM
that mccarthy is shit. never looks forward.

tactical issue plain as day!

Yep, there's still good footy behind that red face.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: toffee_scot on May 15, 2016, 09:21:03 PM
GET IN!
1-0

McCarthy
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 09:21:16 PM
Proper Everton

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CigOgcCWgAEgQy0.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Major Clanger on May 15, 2016, 09:21:18 PM
I know it's only Norwich, but what a difference in terms of approach.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blueToffee on May 15, 2016, 09:21:24 PM
Martinez probably wondering why McCarthy couldn't have done that a bit more earlier in the season.

Good finish.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Silas on May 15, 2016, 09:21:30 PM
Totally different team, same players. Crazy!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cassius on May 15, 2016, 09:21:43 PM
That run, alongside the constant pressing, is tactical. Say what you want about downing tools but we're ahead due to a change in tactics.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Bluedylan on May 15, 2016, 09:21:47 PM
We've had more attempts on goal in the first 20 minutes than I can remember in any game this season, including games where we've played well.

We have got plenty of good players, as people have been saying.

Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 15, 2016, 09:21:48 PM
If we absolutley destroy these do you think they will give Royle n Unsy the job?

no
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Gash on May 15, 2016, 09:21:53 PM
What a finish.

We'd have pumped Utd if they'd sacked him after the derby.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Craig_1878 on May 15, 2016, 09:22:14 PM
How many passes was that before the goal, 3 or 4? This is brilliant to watch.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cozzie on May 15, 2016, 09:22:23 PM
Amazing difference.

I know it is one game and a meaningless one at that but you can see the players obviously happy he has gone.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 15, 2016, 09:22:52 PM
Goal of the season by far, for more reasons than one.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 15, 2016, 09:23:47 PM
Mirallas playing like a boss!!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cozzie on May 15, 2016, 09:24:25 PM
That goal though, none of this playing it about at the back shite, just direct, pacey and clinical.

Fuck you bobby, fuck you very much.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blueToffee on May 15, 2016, 09:24:35 PM
Um, we are just playing Norwich here who are the first side we've come against who have less to play for than we do.

Not sure we can read into this too much.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Bluedylan on May 15, 2016, 09:24:56 PM
And Rom looks like a different player, cos we're playing balls early where he wants them, rather than 47 short passes, and him getting tired of making pointless dummy runs where he never gets found.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: toffee_scot on May 15, 2016, 09:25:02 PM
Nice that Dowell got the assist.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Bluedylan on May 15, 2016, 09:26:08 PM
Arsenal moving above Spurs as it stands. My Spurs mate will top himself if that happens.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 09:26:09 PM
Mirallas playing like a boss!!

I hope he gets a decent run for Belgium this summer.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 09:26:10 PM
Great long PASS there... nothing wrong with that !
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 15, 2016, 09:26:24 PM
Um, we are just playing Norwich here who are the first side we've come against who have less to play for than we do.

Not sure we can read into this too much.

DO you think we'd be a goal up if Martinez was still here? We are playing a totally different way.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cassius on May 15, 2016, 09:26:25 PM
Davies looks like he's played in the first team for years.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hill135 on May 15, 2016, 09:27:17 PM
That goal though, none of this playing it about at the back shite, just direct, pacey and clinical.

Fuck you bobby, fuck you very much.

lolol

hope you don't get the job!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cozzie on May 15, 2016, 09:27:36 PM
God this is good to watch.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Ari on May 15, 2016, 09:27:38 PM
Davies is playing well :)
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Bluedylan on May 15, 2016, 09:28:20 PM
I'm even warming to Davies's hair.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Gash on May 15, 2016, 09:28:42 PM
I hope he gets a decent run for Belgium this summer.

Didn't make the squad, on the standby list though.

Played well every time he's had a game recently.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cassius on May 15, 2016, 09:28:42 PM
Um, we are just playing Norwich here who are the first side we've come against who have less to play for than we do.

Not sure we can read into this too much.

I don't want to bash Roberto too much but can't you see the change in the way we're approaching this game, regardless of the opposition?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: kramer0 on May 15, 2016, 09:28:48 PM
Note: I started writing this before the goal.

I know I've been the worst offender w/r/t ragging on McCarthy lately (see the Leicester thread if you need proof) but today he's showing that he has more to give. He's passing into space (finally), pressing well (as he usually does), and not doing any of the frustrating things he was doing under Martinez.

This how my opinion of him has evolved this season:

Early season: McCarthy fan
Mid-season: Needs a new manager with new ideas to progress
Late season: Not good enough for Everton

As that late season assessment suggests, I put too much stock into poor performances in a really poor team structure and should have stopped at "needs a new manager." I'm glad he's proving me wrong today because I'd much prefer it if he came good. I've been an admirer since Hamilton/Wigan. I know this is only one game but it's giving me a lot of hope that he can kick on.

Also, thanks to @hill135 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3741) for pointing this out last week. It was harsh to judge McCarthy on what he was doing in our old set-up.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 09:29:59 PM
Go 'ed Kenny lad !
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hill135 on May 15, 2016, 09:30:04 PM
well in jonjoe.

a nice reward after promotion to league one.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Trowel on May 15, 2016, 09:30:39 PM
Moshiri checking on the progress of Moutinho's plane.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Redartin on May 15, 2016, 09:30:46 PM
Good advert of talent for the new manager.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Gash on May 15, 2016, 09:31:08 PM
Bill and Moshiri putting an acca on there by the look of it.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Craig_1878 on May 15, 2016, 09:31:12 PM
The only thing that worries me is the players tiring later in the game due to the pace we're playing at.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Trowel on May 15, 2016, 09:31:51 PM
Great movement from Mirallas.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Bluedylan on May 15, 2016, 09:32:10 PM
This is unrecognisable, no matter how shite Norwich are.

We've played other shite teams and made them look good.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 09:32:15 PM
Should've sacked Martinez months ago and who knows what could've been salvaged.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Silas on May 15, 2016, 09:32:27 PM
The difference between Baines when he has a left winger to play with and Baines without is night and day.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cassius on May 15, 2016, 09:32:41 PM
Despite the positive start, the one thing that hasn't changed is the shitness of Kevin Mirallas' haircut.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Goaljira on May 15, 2016, 09:32:50 PM
Seeing Mirallas playing like this that shot of Moshiri and Kenwright was them crossing LW off the 'need' list.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 09:33:20 PM
as much as I want to win, would still be ok with a Naisy goal
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: kramer0 on May 15, 2016, 09:33:39 PM
Despite the positive start, the one thing that hasn't changed is the shitness of Kevin Mirallas' haircut.

I'll always trade "good player" for "crap haircut."
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Silas on May 15, 2016, 09:33:49 PM
Despite the positive start, the one thing that hasn't changed is the shitness of Kevin Mirallas' haircut.

Tom Davies is going for the crap Draco Malfoy impersonation award.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 15, 2016, 09:34:33 PM
Despite the positive start, the one thing that hasn't changed is the shitness of Kevin Mirallas' haircut.

I guess it has grown by 1/1000th inch since kick off.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: kramer0 on May 15, 2016, 09:34:43 PM
Tom Davies is going for the crap Draco Malfoy impersonation award.

Love the low socks, though.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 15, 2016, 09:35:05 PM
as much as I want to win, would still be ok with a Naisy goal

Nah, want Tim to keep a final clean sheet.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cassius on May 15, 2016, 09:35:09 PM
I'll always trade "good player" for "crap haircut."

Never.

I'd give Quique the manager's job for his hair alone.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 09:35:26 PM
Didn't make the squad, on the standby list though.

Played well every time he's had a game recently.

Damn it, if Belgium pisses me off I will be a man without a country.  Guess I will have to focus more on the South American Euros (one of my best friends is Chilean).
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: kramer0 on May 15, 2016, 09:35:43 PM
Never.

I'd give Quique the manager's job for his hair alone.

Fair enough!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blueToffee on May 15, 2016, 09:36:12 PM
DO you think we'd be a goal up if Martinez was still here? We are playing a totally different way.

Who knows, but the point is this match isn't much of insight into anything. Norwich just want this match to be done with. The biggest change for us I'd argue is the difference in personnel. We look better with the younger players in as we did when we saw them get cameos a few weeks ago, they're energetic and they have confidence...two things sorely missing in the first team of late...so it's very noticeable.

However, if we were playing Sunderland, Man City or a team with something to fight for still I don't know how we'd do.

Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, I'm enjoying the game. It feels like a pre-season match at best though.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cassius on May 15, 2016, 09:36:28 PM
Damn it, if Belgium pisses me off I will be a man without a country.  Guess I will have to focus more on the South American Euros (one of my best friends is Chilean).

South American Euros haha
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Silas on May 15, 2016, 09:37:03 PM
It would appear there is a big difference in players liking and respecting a Manager and believing in him.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 09:37:57 PM
Clean sheet will be massive here if we can get it. Style of play is great but defending needs to prove itself as well.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: kramer0 on May 15, 2016, 09:38:07 PM
How many chances or near chances has Barry > Lukaku created? Lovely chemistry between those two.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 09:39:29 PM
1-0

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CigTKwJWEAAEC0c.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 09:40:12 PM
when did you last see Super Kev make a great defensive stop like that?  He's a proper new man!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 15, 2016, 09:41:04 PM
That would have been a big mistake.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 09:41:34 PM
yeah, defense still needs sorting
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: kramer0 on May 15, 2016, 09:41:39 PM
Lesson: You can't organize a defense three days.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cassius on May 15, 2016, 09:41:54 PM
Still look a bit shaky at the back, which is understandable, but looks like we're bringing more players back and into the area as often as possible.

...and that would have been 1-1 against a better team.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Ari on May 15, 2016, 09:42:09 PM
It was just like Jagielka went to sleep for a second...
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Major Clanger on May 15, 2016, 09:42:55 PM
Our defending is still shite, mind you.

But sorting that out won't happen overnight.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 15, 2016, 09:43:49 PM
Come on Lukaku, give us a goal.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Gash on May 15, 2016, 09:43:49 PM
Is that the same Jarvis that Wolves paid about 10m for?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: kramer0 on May 15, 2016, 09:43:53 PM
Dowell has the potential to be a hell of player. I hope we find the right manager to nurture him.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hill135 on May 15, 2016, 09:43:53 PM
good football there in the build up to that pen.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 09:43:53 PM
Penalty to us !
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cassius on May 15, 2016, 09:44:07 PM
Now, who takes the pens?!

That will tell us a lot about Roberto.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 15, 2016, 09:44:10 PM
Oh, Baines back on pens.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: TheRam on May 15, 2016, 09:44:21 PM
Haha what a woeful dive.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Goaljira on May 15, 2016, 09:44:23 PM
Baines back on pens :)
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blueToffee on May 15, 2016, 09:44:27 PM
Clean sheet will be massive here if we can get it. Style of play is great but defending needs to prove itself as well.

Really? I don't think anything about this result will have much of any meaning. Unsworth isn't getting the job. Neither team have anything to play for.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 09:44:28 PM
BAINESY!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 15, 2016, 09:44:31 PM
2-0.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hill135 on May 15, 2016, 09:44:37 PM
baines grabbing the ball

finally showing some bollocks!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Goaljira on May 15, 2016, 09:44:42 PM
Get in!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 09:44:50 PM
Baines 2 - 0 - never in doubt !
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Goaljira on May 15, 2016, 09:45:11 PM
Look how happy they are.  LOOK HOW HAPPY THEY ALL ARE!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Bluedylan on May 15, 2016, 09:45:15 PM
Go ed you beautiful blue bastards!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: TheRam on May 15, 2016, 09:45:20 PM
Farcical how he was took off pens.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cassius on May 15, 2016, 09:45:23 PM
So there you go. Baines on pens, which is the correct decision.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Gash on May 15, 2016, 09:45:56 PM
Oh look, Baines back on penalties.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 09:46:13 PM
(http://iblog.dearbornschools.org/iraniha/wp-content/uploads/sites/436/2013/08/chemistry.jpg)
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Major Clanger on May 15, 2016, 09:46:19 PM
Good to see our best penalty taker taking penalties again.

What utter madness that had been.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: howard1334 on May 15, 2016, 09:46:22 PM
I hope he gets a decent run for Belgium this summer.

Commentators just said he missed out on the team... Too bad.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Silas on May 15, 2016, 09:46:28 PM
Lukaku wins a penalty, Baines scores it. How it should be!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 15, 2016, 09:46:47 PM
the joy, the smiles, the Baines penalty again, the pressing. FUCK now i remember why i love the blues
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: toffee_scot on May 15, 2016, 09:46:54 PM
2-0 Baines penalty.

This is good stuff!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: velimski on May 15, 2016, 09:46:57 PM
ooooh look what happens when your best penalty taker takes pens.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cassius on May 15, 2016, 09:46:59 PM
What a half from Tom Davies. Best player on the park for me in that first half.

He should be a regular in the squad next season regardless of who we sign.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 09:47:17 PM
He looks so happy, too.  Sweet redemption, back on penalties after RM threw him under the bus for very mild criticism a few months ago.  Complete 180!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Goaljira on May 15, 2016, 09:48:01 PM
This summer is going to be boss now.  How great some optimism is!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 09:48:18 PM
Osman should come on late, if we get another pen then, he should get to take it.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hill135 on May 15, 2016, 09:48:26 PM
glad to see the back of norwich tbh
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: The Analog Kid on May 15, 2016, 09:48:30 PM
Baines back on penalties about four weeks too late!

I also turned my stream off and missed the fucker.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Gash on May 15, 2016, 09:48:31 PM
Absolute travesty that Baines looks unlikely to go to the Euros. Good for us though, gives him a nice break through the summer.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Craig_1878 on May 15, 2016, 09:48:48 PM
What a little shithouse tackle that as, prick.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blueToffee on May 15, 2016, 09:48:56 PM
Davies definitely best player this half. Strange he wasn't given more time toward the end of the season.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 15, 2016, 09:48:57 PM
Apparently Tom Davies is going to be named in the Euros squad tomorrow on account of him being the best midfielder on the planet
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: kramer0 on May 15, 2016, 09:49:15 PM
What a half from Tom Davies. Best player on the park for me in that first half.

He should be a regular in the squad next season regardless of who we sign.

He's everywhere and he's taking a lot of neat touches too. Very promising.

And we have Ledson/Walsh/Williams in reserve too.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Rodenplav64 on May 15, 2016, 09:49:19 PM
If Bluebeagle , Tinga and Lxxx start making positive posts then I will actually look forward to next season .
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 09:49:41 PM
Been a long time since I applauded the team off at the half (from my living room couch).
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 09:49:43 PM
Martinez has gone.

Everton are back.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 15, 2016, 09:50:26 PM
What a little shithouse tackle that as, prick.

Oh how cool are you mate kicking Lukaku. Jokes on him!

Oh no wait a sec you relegated canary whopper he's going off to win the Euros with Belgium and his side are winning 2-0 and next season he is winning the premier league with Jose Mourinhos Everton!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Goaljira on May 15, 2016, 09:50:47 PM
You know that 'massive overhaul needed' thread?  Well it can fuck off into the bin.

Looking at these kids we might only need two keepers, a CB and a striker(To replace Kone and Niasse).
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Major Clanger on May 15, 2016, 09:51:28 PM
What a half from Tom Davies. Best player on the park for me in that first half.

He should be a regular in the squad next season regardless of who we sign.

And added bonus is that if he can keep this up, we won't need to buy a replacement for Osman.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blueToffee on May 15, 2016, 09:51:39 PM
Man City game is 1-1. Going to be such a mess in light of the postponement at Old Trafford if that game finishes like that.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 09:51:46 PM
Absolute travesty that Baines looks unlikely to go to the Euros. Good for us though, gives him a nice break through the summer.

Absolutely needs the rest, and the last thing he needs is more Hodgson/English media jerking about.  He can hold that lovely smile for 2 full months.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blueToffee on May 15, 2016, 09:51:55 PM
And added bonus is that if he can keep this up, we won't need to buy a replacement for Osman.

Good point.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: The Analog Kid on May 15, 2016, 09:52:15 PM
If Bluebeagle , Tinga and Lxxx start making positive posts then I will actually look forward to next season .

Baby steps mate. Baby steps.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Ross on May 15, 2016, 09:52:45 PM
is there a better academy in the country?

Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 09:53:12 PM
Man City game is 1-1. Going to be such a mess in light of the postponement at Old Trafford if that game finishes like that.

A draw is really enough for them.  Manure would have to win by like 18 to catch them on goal differential for 4th, right?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 09:53:59 PM
is there a better academy in the country?



Everyone associated with it (including Unsy) deserves a nice pay raise.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Ross on May 15, 2016, 09:53:59 PM
Couple of Lukaku goals to get him to twenty in the league would be nice.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: TSGun on May 15, 2016, 09:54:07 PM
Decent half...we've certainly played a faster tempo game.

Really like the look of Davies.

Been a tad lucky though and 2-0 is the bogey score...but don't want to deride from the positive vibes.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blueToffee on May 15, 2016, 09:54:20 PM
Is it too early to say it was a poor penalty from Baines? Was a Lukaku level one. Glad he's back on penalties but he needs to go back to smashing them top corner, that's what made him so good on them.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Silas on May 15, 2016, 09:54:53 PM
I don't know whether to be angry with the team for being twats for months or thankful that those performances aren't representative of what they are capable of.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: toffee_scot on May 15, 2016, 09:55:32 PM
The most enjoyable half of football from Everton that I've seen in a while.

The players are playing with a lot more determination and it's nice to see Kenny, Dowell and especially Davies making an impression.

Norwich have had their chances though and have had a spell of domination. I hope Everton can keep up the pressure in the second half and fitness doesn't become a huge issue.

But still, a very encouraging display and a big lift.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Tinga on May 15, 2016, 09:55:50 PM
If Bluebeagle , Tinga and Lxxx start making positive posts then I will actually look forward to next season .

I'm honestly usually positive but it was kind of hard to be recently, appreciate the mention though dude.

Anybody else also not worried about conceding two Norwich goals like you would have the past months?.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blueToffee on May 15, 2016, 09:56:17 PM
A draw is really enough for them.  Manure would have to win by like 18 to catch them on goal differential for 4th, right?

Sorry, yeah thought they were closer but forgot about the f up in the last game evar at the "Boleyn Ground".

A draw would be enough.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: christiffa25 on May 15, 2016, 09:56:30 PM
Can see Davies being involved a lot more next season. Looks a cracking player.

Loving seeing just normal football. a big boot from the back every now and then like it or not is effective and produces goals
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hannu on May 15, 2016, 09:56:31 PM
is there a better academy in the country?



southampton maybe, they have an excelent youth setup down there
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Ari on May 15, 2016, 09:57:21 PM
There are so much optimism in here I'd like to do a like to every post... love it :)
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: velimski on May 15, 2016, 09:57:51 PM
Been a long time since I applauded the team off at the half (from my living room couch).

The Mrs told me off for clapping my laptop.

She just doesn't understand.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: BlueBeagle on May 15, 2016, 09:57:58 PM
If Bluebeagle , Tinga and Lxxx start making positive posts then I will actually look forward to next season .

Is it any coincidence that the root cause of the clubs problems has been removed from his position and now things look totally different on the pitch?

It's people who buried their heads in the sand and wanted to give the buffoon more time that were the real problem.

I now absolutely zero reason to moan now.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: kramer0 on May 15, 2016, 09:58:08 PM
There are so much optimism in here I'd like to do a like to every post... love it :)

I was just thinking the same!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Bluedylan on May 15, 2016, 09:58:26 PM
Can see Davies being involved a lot more next season. Looks a cracking player.

Loving seeing just normal football. a big boot from the back every now and then like it or not is effective and produces goals

We haven't really booted it from the back though. We've played some clever early balls in behind, but we've passed it really nicely in the final third, and it's all been sharp, quick passing with little one-twos.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cassius on May 15, 2016, 09:58:38 PM
He's everywhere and he's taking a lot of neat touches too. Very promising.

And we have Ledson/Walsh/Williams in reserve too.

Keep forgetting about Ledson. Has he come back from his loan?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Fynci on May 15, 2016, 09:58:54 PM
Davies looks phenomenal.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: toffee_scot on May 15, 2016, 09:59:13 PM
Just looking at the table at half time, remember how a couple years ago 72pts for us was only good enough for a 5th place finish? Well this season, that points tally would have been enough for 2nd.  :headbang:
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Goaljira on May 15, 2016, 09:59:40 PM
This is after Unsworth taking training twice.  Twice!

Think how good it could be with a new full time manager and a full proper preseason.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on May 15, 2016, 10:00:15 PM
I can't see the game from America... showing the ManC game.... is the new owner there? If so, did the crowd react? Or did that happen a few games ago.

BTW... I can feel the difference even from here just by reading all your posts.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Redartin on May 15, 2016, 10:00:23 PM
southampton maybe, they have an excelent youth setup down there
But when KOEMAN comes he can take the best of them with him
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hill135 on May 15, 2016, 10:01:12 PM
It's been good lads but some of you are going well overboard.

It's been a better approach than the last few months but that's not saying much.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: kramer0 on May 15, 2016, 10:01:16 PM
Loving seeing just normal football. a big boot from the back every now and then like it or not is effective and produces goals

It's all about variety. A good team needs different ways to attack.

Under Martinez there was no question about what we were going to try to do. That made us easy to neutralize. Today, we're combining in tight spaces but also looking to play Lukaku and Mirallas in early when appropriate. Norwich aren't good defensively but they're having a lot more trouble defending us than they would have under Martinez.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: NomadskiEFC on May 15, 2016, 10:01:39 PM
Can we have this Everton next season please, that other one smelled bad.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 15, 2016, 10:02:12 PM
It's been good lads but some of you are going well overboard.

It's been a better approach than the last few months but that's not saying much.


youre a miserable fucker though so...
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Ross on May 15, 2016, 10:03:06 PM
Unsy to be Mourinho number two please.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: toffee_scot on May 15, 2016, 10:03:09 PM
I can't see the game from America... showing the ManC game.... is the new owner there?

Yes, both Moshiri and Kenwright are sitting together.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Tinga on May 15, 2016, 10:03:13 PM
It's been good lads but some of you are going well overboard.

It's been a better approach than the last few months but that's not saying much.


Hey!, you just be positive you!.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 10:03:47 PM
I can't see the game from America... showing the ManC game.... is the new owner there? If so, did the crowd react? Or did that happen a few games ago.

BTW... I can feel the difference even from here just by reading all your posts.

It's on Esquire network.  Just have to scroll around and find it!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Major Clanger on May 15, 2016, 10:04:20 PM
The reaction of the players shows that replacing Martinez was the correct decision.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Major Clanger on May 15, 2016, 10:05:19 PM
It's been good lads but some of you are going well overboard.

It's been a better approach than the last few months but that's not saying much.

That's natural, some things will take much longer to change.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Silas on May 15, 2016, 10:05:29 PM
It's not so much the performance it's the difference in attitude, that's both frustrating because every player should play for the club rather than the Manager but the fact is these players are different today. Mirallas is playing like a massive weight is off his shoulders for one and he's far from the only one.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: kramer0 on May 15, 2016, 10:06:05 PM
Davies and Dowell both try stuff.

May that never be coached out of them because it's a joy to watch.

Edit: With that caveat that they try stuff in the right areas (i.e. not in the defensive third).
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hill135 on May 15, 2016, 10:06:10 PM
how old is davies?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 10:06:53 PM
Super Kev, well earned!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: kramer0 on May 15, 2016, 10:07:04 PM
how old is davies?

17!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 10:07:08 PM
Oh YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSS 3 - 0
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: The Analog Kid on May 15, 2016, 10:07:09 PM
Super Kev!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hill135 on May 15, 2016, 10:07:11 PM
another goal on the transition. very nice.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Goaljira on May 15, 2016, 10:07:27 PM
Oh Kevin Mirallas!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Trowel on May 15, 2016, 10:07:34 PM
A new era, or a release of expression?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Gash on May 15, 2016, 10:08:02 PM
3 now, Mirallas.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: The Analog Kid on May 15, 2016, 10:08:07 PM
What was Mirallas celebration like?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Silas on May 15, 2016, 10:08:18 PM
Winning the battle in midfield means everything.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blueToffee on May 15, 2016, 10:08:18 PM
It's been good lads but some of you are going well overboard.

It's been a better approach than the last few months but that's not saying much.


THIS

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills in this thread. I do like the optimism but come on, we're playing a team in Norwich who are relegated, have nothing to play for and they still should've scored.

We're going to finish with Unsworth for manager shouts by the end of this thread.

That said COYB :), enjoying the game despite my comments.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hannu on May 15, 2016, 10:08:18 PM
3
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hill135 on May 15, 2016, 10:08:20 PM
17!

fucking hell i thought he would be a couple of years older than that. very encouraging.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 10:08:22 PM
Now, QUIT BEING DICKS, Belgium!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cozzie on May 15, 2016, 10:08:23 PM
:)

Ahhhhh, bisto!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: toffee_scot on May 15, 2016, 10:08:59 PM
This is the real Everton.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Silas on May 15, 2016, 10:09:10 PM
Some of you were definitely made up when Mufasa died in The Lion King.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blueToffee on May 15, 2016, 10:09:11 PM
Really pleased to see Mirallas score. It's ridiculous how little he was used this season.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: BlueBeagle on May 15, 2016, 10:09:23 PM
A new era, or a release of expression?

The shackles of diabolical tactics removed
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Trowel on May 15, 2016, 10:10:05 PM
What was Mirallas celebration like?
Like making love to a beautiful woman.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 10:10:21 PM
You know that 'massive overhaul needed' thread?  Well it can fuck off into the bin.

Looking at these kids we might only need two keepers, a CB and a striker(To replace Kone and Niasse).

We have Luke Garbutt to come back as well... he looked excellent at times before he went on loan.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Silas on May 15, 2016, 10:10:21 PM
Like making love to a beautiful woman.

Quick
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Ridge on May 15, 2016, 10:10:26 PM
Dowell and then Davies winning the ball back, Kenny cross, great stuff.

Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 15, 2016, 10:10:56 PM
THIS

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills in this thread. I do like the optimism but come on, we're playing a team in Norwich who are relegated, have nothing to play for and they still should've scored.

We're going to finish with Unsworth for manager shouts by the end of this thread.

That said COYB :), enjoying the game despite my comments.

Come on man. After the months of tosh we've had to endure, let's just enjoy this one last game, hey? We're playing to our potnetial, and smashing a team like Norwich as we should.

Remember, no more football til August after this, it's good to win on a high.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Rodenplav64 on May 15, 2016, 10:12:01 PM
I'm honestly usually positive but it was kind of hard to be recently, appreciate the mention though dude.

Anybody else also not worried about conceding two Norwich goals like you would have the past months?.

I will be happy for us all to start next season on the same footing .
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hill135 on May 15, 2016, 10:12:02 PM
dowell to number 10?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 10:12:10 PM
THIS

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills in this thread. I do like the optimism but come on, we're playing a team in Norwich who are relegated, have nothing to play for and they still should've scored.

We're going to finish with Unsworth for manager shouts by the end of this thread.


Are you surprised after the appalling performances we have had to suffer this seaon ?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Redartin on May 15, 2016, 10:13:06 PM
3 goals and Lukaku hasn't even started scoring yet. Although he is starting to run out of time.

BTW why are we looking for a manager when we have a genius in the dug out.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 10:13:17 PM
3-0.... 'Davies, Dowell and Kenny combine to set up the Belgian...'
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: kramer0 on May 15, 2016, 10:13:28 PM
Dowell was ahead of Lukaku there.

You can see the ideas, though. Really made up he got the start today.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Goaljira on May 15, 2016, 10:13:40 PM
Come on man. After the months of tosh we've had to endure, let's just enjoy this one last game, hey? We're playing to our potnetial, and smashing a team like Norwich as we should.

Remember, no more football til August after this, it's good to win on a high.
Still got Europa/Champions League finals yo come, and then the Euros start in 3 weeks.  Fuck having a break!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Gash on May 15, 2016, 10:13:53 PM
THIS

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills in this thread. I do like the optimism but come on, we're playing a team in Norwich who are relegated, have nothing to play for and they still should've scored.

We're going to finish with Unsworth for manager shouts by the end of this thread.

That said COYB :), enjoying the game despite my comments.

We're playing several youngsters which balances it out a bit.

I think after the shit we've had this season we're entitled to sit back and enjoy this for now rather than play it down.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 15, 2016, 10:15:23 PM
Still got Europa/Champions League finals yo come, and then the Euros start in 3 weeks.  Fuck having a break!

I doubt there'll be any coverage of the euros over here. I'm having a break. Just wish summer would hurry up and get here though.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blueToffee on May 15, 2016, 10:15:24 PM
Come on man. After the months of tosh we've had to endure, let's just enjoy this one last game, hey? We're playing to our potnetial, and smashing a team like Norwich as we should.

Remember, no more football til August after this, it's good to win on a high.

YOU'RE RIGHT!


Fair dos. This is not the time for knit picking after this rather soul crushing season.

:)
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: minty on May 15, 2016, 10:15:41 PM
But when KOEMAN comes he can take the best of them with him

It was reported he said he has no interest in the move.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: kramer0 on May 15, 2016, 10:16:18 PM
I know this is a controversial claim but I think Alex Neil's tactic of giving Gareth Barry all the time he needs to pick his passes isn't working.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: TheRam on May 15, 2016, 10:18:59 PM
Some of you were definitely made up when Mufasa died in The Lion King.

Spoiler ffs
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Goaljira on May 15, 2016, 10:19:03 PM
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Alex6691 on May 15, 2016, 10:19:54 PM
Is mourinhos agent there then?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: kramer0 on May 15, 2016, 10:20:08 PM
Davies is arrogant as fuck, in the best possible way.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blueToffee on May 15, 2016, 10:20:17 PM
Spoiler ffs

(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLpEUQXXAAAZpLb.jpg)

He's fine. Kinda.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 10:20:37 PM
Check the stats Roberto

Possession
Home 46% Away 54%

Shots
Home 11  Away 7

Shots on Target
Home 7  Away 1

3 - 0
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 15, 2016, 10:20:53 PM
Very impressed with the youngsters.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hill135 on May 15, 2016, 10:21:14 PM
norwich must be seething that we rolled over against Sunderland to send them down and then turn up and batter them with an interim manager and a bunch of kids in the team lolol

Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 15, 2016, 10:22:04 PM
Just seen Spurs are down to third place now lol
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on May 15, 2016, 10:23:37 PM
Come on man. After the months of tosh we've had to endure, let's just enjoy this one last game, hey? We're playing to our potnetial, and smashing a team like Norwich as we should.

Remember, no more football til August after this, it's good to win on a high.
You don't watch the Scandinavian leagues?   :shock:  ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 10:24:30 PM
One of us...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CigdWf8XIAAQd9W.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Goaljira on May 15, 2016, 10:25:27 PM
That turn from Dowell!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Rodenplav64 on May 15, 2016, 10:25:29 PM
norwich must be seething that we rolled over against Sunderland to send them down and then turn up and batter them with an interim manager and a bunch of kids in the team lolol



Those that did play should be shame faced .
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Paddockoldie on May 15, 2016, 10:26:03 PM
I don't mean to sound like Jimmy Saville, but I'm lovin these youngsters. Davies is gonna be some  player.. Would Jose give them a future? I think not. The difference in the team, ground etc is astounding.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blueToffee on May 15, 2016, 10:26:09 PM
Great by Dowell.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on May 15, 2016, 10:26:26 PM
I am really hoping MC wins so MU is out of top 4. Hate em both but seeing the richest club miss out would be great.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 15, 2016, 10:26:41 PM
Dowell gives me wood
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 10:27:21 PM
Mira

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CigdsMtXEAAac9y.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: kramer0 on May 15, 2016, 10:27:46 PM
Dowell gives me wood

Ditto. Glad Unsworth brought him off for that ovation. Nice touch.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Gash on May 15, 2016, 10:27:50 PM
Just seen Spurs are down to third place now lol

That could change seeing Mitrovic has just been sent off for a shocking tackle on Walker. Walker lucky not to have a broken leg apparently.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 15, 2016, 10:27:54 PM
Kev is beautiful.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: MexicanToffee on May 15, 2016, 10:28:58 PM
I'm going to be broken when/if Pienaar leaves.

What a footballer.

Feel the same.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 10:29:03 PM
Lets see if Barkley is also transformed... needs to be.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hill135 on May 15, 2016, 10:29:12 PM
That could change seeing Mitrovic has just been sent off for a shocking tackle on Walker. Walker lucky not to have a broken leg apparently.

and some people want him here.

he's an absolute lunatic. can't stay on the pitch
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: TheRam on May 15, 2016, 10:29:36 PM
These youngsters look a bit special.

Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Sixx1402 on May 15, 2016, 10:29:47 PM
I am really hoping MC wins so MU is out of top 4. Hate em both but seeing the richest club miss out would be great.

They've got a way better goal difference. A draw will see City 4th.

This is great thought, what a difference!! So much optimism for the summer now, i guess it wasn't our players that were shit then.....
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 10:30:00 PM
Saints currently on track to pass West Ham for 6th, or 5th with Manure loss (whenever match is re-scheduled).
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hill135 on May 15, 2016, 10:30:27 PM
kenny has blocked more crosses in half an hour than all our other full backs put together all season.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Lxxx on May 15, 2016, 10:30:33 PM
If Bluebeagle , Tinga and Lxxx start making positive posts then I will actually look forward to next season .

He's gone, there's no reason to be anything but positive....unless we get a return of the ginge.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Silas on May 15, 2016, 10:30:40 PM
Kenny is a proper defender
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: kramer0 on May 15, 2016, 10:30:50 PM
and some people want him here.

he's an absolute lunatic. can't stay on the pitch

To be fair, he hadn't done anything idiotic for awhile.

I'd prefer someone without the dark side, though, like Embolo or Batshuayi.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 10:31:22 PM
Ha, well in T-How !
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: toffee_scot on May 15, 2016, 10:31:31 PM
Hold on, did we just use all our 3 subs before the 70th minute mark?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Ari on May 15, 2016, 10:31:48 PM
great view... Howard v. Naismith :)
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Gash on May 15, 2016, 10:32:06 PM
Oh well, Newcastle 3-1 up now.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 15, 2016, 10:33:20 PM
lol what a goal that would have been!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on May 15, 2016, 10:33:27 PM
Lets see if Barkley is also transformed... needs to be.
It certainly looks like it!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: kramer0 on May 15, 2016, 10:33:40 PM
There's the Ross Barkley you know and love!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 10:33:59 PM
Yes, Ross, yes... THATS more like it !
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blueToffee on May 15, 2016, 10:34:29 PM
That could change seeing Mitrovic has just been sent off for a shocking tackle on Walker. Walker lucky not to have a broken leg apparently.

3-1 now.

It'll be crazy if Arsenal after all this finish above Spurs. I thought they were meant to be the best team this year according to the media?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: toffee_scot on May 15, 2016, 10:35:12 PM
Even Barkley has his confidence back!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: kramer0 on May 15, 2016, 10:36:29 PM
Davies thinks he can pull off everything. I love it.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on May 15, 2016, 10:36:41 PM
This makes me think that maybe we don't need a huge revamp, but more of a new mix of the starting group with some youth being brought up and then two really expensive, kick ass transfers of top players at key positions?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cereal Killer on May 15, 2016, 10:37:03 PM
But Norwich have had more possession?!?111!! this anti-football must stop at once!!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 10:38:06 PM
Saints extend their lead, just need Stoke to keep Stoke-ing it up, and they almost surely steal the Hammers' Europa slot.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on May 15, 2016, 10:38:12 PM
But Norwich have had more possession?!?111!! this anti-football must stop at once!!

 :evil:
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hill135 on May 15, 2016, 10:38:37 PM
Davies thinks he can pull off everything. I love it.

he can pull me off given the boner i've got for his play.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 10:38:46 PM
Pity we never kept Naisy...  so many worse players we needed to unload.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: kramer0 on May 15, 2016, 10:40:09 PM
If Unsworth was a Sherwood-level wanker, he'd resign from his position with the U21s tomorrow and speak endlessly in the media about how he was the most successful Everton manager of the past twenty years with his 100% win ratio in a desperate effort to get offered another manager's job.

I'm very happy that Unsworth isn't a Sherwood-level wanker.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: christiffa25 on May 15, 2016, 10:40:42 PM
Baines looks like his old self today!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 10:40:50 PM
Imagine replacing Naismith with that cunt Niasse... shocking. :(
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on May 15, 2016, 10:41:32 PM
Glad to see Watford now tied up in QSF's last game. Hope they give him a proper sendoff.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Silas on May 15, 2016, 10:41:42 PM
Unsworth deserves huge credit for the work he has done with our young players and I suppose Martinez does as well for encouraging this infrastructure from the start.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: kramer0 on May 15, 2016, 10:42:45 PM
Unsworth deserves huge credit for the work he has done with our young players and I suppose Martinez does as well for encouraging this infrastructure from the start.

It's one of the things I can't knock Martinez for. Our academy didn't have this sort of buzz under Moyes.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 15, 2016, 10:43:02 PM
Kenny is the new Hibbert.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blueToffee on May 15, 2016, 10:43:48 PM
Surprised we didn't get to see a cameo by Osman.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 10:44:03 PM
Sums up the day...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cigh1T5W0AENO03.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 15, 2016, 10:44:38 PM
10-man Barcodes score a 4th...
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Zoolander on May 15, 2016, 10:44:45 PM

Surprised we didn't get to see a cameo by Osman.
i thought that - probably means he'll be getting another year
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: kramer0 on May 15, 2016, 10:44:50 PM
Kenny is the new Hibbert.

He looks like Hibbert evolved. Defense first (obviously) but with much more ability/comfort on the ball.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Zoolander on May 15, 2016, 10:45:23 PM

10-man Barcodes score a 4th...
And fucking ruined my accy
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Gash on May 15, 2016, 10:46:22 PM
10-man Barcodes score a 4th...

And then a 5th.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Lxxx on May 15, 2016, 10:46:35 PM
Seeing the way the kids are expressing themselves I don't think Mourinho would be a great choice even if he did get persuaded by Moshiri. De Boer with Unsy No 2 might not be a bad shout if we're looking at nurturing the future.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blueToffee on May 15, 2016, 10:46:44 PM
It's great when Mirallas is in the mood. So to speak.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 10:48:49 PM
Barkley still not really at it ... not chasing back, closing down or making runs. He should be totally running this.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Silas on May 15, 2016, 10:50:37 PM
Barkley still not really at it ... not chasing back, closing down or making runs. He should be totally running this.

What game are you watching? He's looked bright and dangerous since he came on.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blueToffee on May 15, 2016, 10:50:49 PM
And then a 5th.

Ha, no way.

Spurs' hype this season = overblown. Any other year they'd have been fighting for fourth with their performances overall this season.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 10:51:10 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CigVeA_WUAAw-P9.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Rodenplav64 on May 15, 2016, 10:51:38 PM
Barkley still not really at it ... not chasing back, closing down or making runs. He should be totally running this.

Don't worry he'll be off in the summer .
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on May 15, 2016, 10:52:07 PM
Seeing the way the kids are expressing themselves I don't think Mourinho would be a great choice even if he did get persuaded by Moshiri. De Boer with Unsy No 2 might not be a bad shout if we're looking at nurturing the future.

Would be epic. De Boer has a rep for developing youth in a major way.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: howard1334 on May 15, 2016, 10:52:47 PM
Goodbye, Tim Howard!

Thanks for, one decade ago, getting this American goalkeeper interested in a team I will be supporting for life.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 15, 2016, 10:53:53 PM
Goodbye, Tim Howard!

Thanks for getting this American goalkeeper interested in a team a decade ago that I will be supporting for life.

Was just about to post that I was happy Tim got his clean sheet. Good keeper for us, wish he was playing for the Union next though.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Goaljira on May 15, 2016, 10:53:55 PM
Living in America followed by Born in the USA!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cozzie on May 15, 2016, 10:53:56 PM
Really happy, amazing how a change like that can revitalize a team.

I know I am not gonna get carried away, it was a meaningless game I get that, but after that season it was refreshing to see us play that way for a change.

Looking forward to the forthcoming season, nice to see Howard get his clean sheet too.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: hill135 on May 15, 2016, 10:54:12 PM
What i've taken from this game is that Unsworth has done a very good job of equipping his u21 team to make the step up and therefore he should probably stay with them. why promote him to another position which is nothing to do with the youth team when he appears to be doing such a good job.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Tinga on May 15, 2016, 10:54:13 PM
If only it was February now.

 
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 15, 2016, 10:54:46 PM
Living in America followed by Born in the USA!

Totally. Both Jersey boys.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on May 15, 2016, 10:56:12 PM
Great ending to a rough season that makes me feel good about the upcoming transfer window and managerial announcement.

Compare this to the situation at Aston Villa.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: howard1334 on May 15, 2016, 10:56:41 PM
Was just about to post that I was happy Tim got his clean sheet. Good keeper for us, wish he was playing for the Union next though.

Yeah, things soured for him. And even I have been calling for his replacement for a long time. But I am glad today ended well.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 10:57:52 PM
All the best to Tim Howard - great Everton servant, top shot-stopper, nice guy.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: The Analog Kid on May 15, 2016, 10:58:15 PM
When was the last time we finished three points behind Chelsea?!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 15, 2016, 10:58:22 PM
Shit houses Norwich
Needed a goal for me bet
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 15, 2016, 10:58:53 PM
Was a joy to watch that.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Everton Mint on May 15, 2016, 10:58:59 PM
USA USA USA
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Fynci on May 15, 2016, 10:59:02 PM
It was a good end to a terrible season.... but let's not get super carried away here. If we were up against better opposition then the scoreline may not have been as flattering as that. There is some stuff to be optimistic about but we have some way to go.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Silas on May 15, 2016, 10:59:49 PM
What i've taken from this game is that Unsworth has done a very good job of equipping his u21 team to make the step up and therefore he should probably stay with them. why promote him to another position which is nothing to do with the youth team when he appears to be doing such a good job.

Yeah shouldn't even be a consideration and I think he loves his job.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cozzie on May 15, 2016, 11:02:14 PM
The thing now is, we have promised transfer funds and HOPEFULLY a manager that knows what he is doing to come in.

The three youngsters, Dowell, Davies and Kenny all looked great, albeit a nice environment and game for them to come in to.

Plenty to be positive about here, we showed today how we CAN play with the right direction we will be ok again.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: TSGun on May 15, 2016, 11:03:05 PM
Great to finish with a win, great to see some smiling faces again.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: toffee_scot on May 15, 2016, 11:03:14 PM
A very good final game of the season which shows just how good some of the players are when they play in a system that suits them.

Very pleased for Tim Howard getting a clean sheet in his final game for us.

Finally well done to David Unsworth as well as Joe Royle for taking charge of this fixture and for managing a very good win for us in a short space of time. Very good of them to give the players including the youngsters the belief they could progress forward. It was also very refreshing to see Baines and Mirallas play well plus I'm happy for James McCarthy scoring.

Now we just need to appoint a manager who can get the best out of the team, there is a lot of promise that Everton can take forward.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blueToffee on May 15, 2016, 11:04:38 PM
Nice ending to a terrible season.

It's going to be a busy summer, I've no idea what our starting lineup will look like come the start of next season.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Confucius on May 15, 2016, 11:05:45 PM
Did we unveil Mourinho?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Ross on May 15, 2016, 11:09:45 PM
Did we unveil Mourinho?

Wednesday 9.45pm after the shite get beat by Seville just to rub salt in!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Alfie Noakes on May 15, 2016, 11:17:31 PM
Yeah it was a nice win and I'm happy for the youngsters etc. but I'm mostly happy that this awful season is finally over. COYB.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Seahawk on May 15, 2016, 11:22:44 PM
It was a good end to a terrible season.... but let's not get super carried away here. If we were up against better opposition then the scoreline may not have been as flattering as that. There is some stuff to be optimistic about but we have some way to go.
Which is why we have sacked our manager.  I am confident that we can push on.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: brap2 on May 15, 2016, 11:24:04 PM
Young lads looked really promising.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: NomadskiEFC on May 15, 2016, 11:26:10 PM
"I was fighting back the tears at the end"

"This is a place I love, it is hard to leave. I'm excited for a new chapter but this is what I've done every day for a decade. I grew up here, my best friends are here, there have been so many highs.

"This will always be my home. I love this football club."


Beautiful words by Tim Howard at the end. Hope you do grand in Colorado fella.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Seahawk on May 15, 2016, 11:46:29 PM
Did we unveil Mourinho?
I have read many of your posts.  At first with amusement, regarding your apparent fixation of all things Muslim/Everton.  I then read your posts pertaining to whether RM should stay or go.  Your argument to keep him was both blinkered and child like.  I had you down as a teenage troll (see avatar 'I See You I kill You') but you are obviously far worse.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.....but you just go out of your way to be a complete prick. 
Have 'they' (not we.......poss kopite) unveiled JM.
I don't agree with every post on here.  It is a forum and forums are all about debate.  You on the other hand are nothing but an antagonist who gets his kicks by being a small keyboard assassin.
In short...... I consider you a no more than the bell whiff of a cock womble.
Apologies to NSO Members'Mods and Si, but it needed saying.......The Prick!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Confucius on May 15, 2016, 11:52:37 PM
I have read many of your posts.  At first with amusement, regarding your apparent fixation of all things Muslim/Everton.  I then read your posts pertaining to whether RM should stay or go.  Your argument to keep him was both blinkered and child like.  I had you down as a teenage troll (see avatar 'I See You I kill You') but you are obviously far worse.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.....but you just go out of your way to be a complete prick. 
Have 'they' (not we.......poss kopite) unveiled JM.
I don't agree with every post on here.  It is a forum and forums are all about debate.  You on the other hand are nothing but an antagonist who gets his kicks by being a small keyboard assassin.
In short...... I consider you a no more than the bell whiff of a cock womble.
Apologies to NSO Members'Mods and Si, but it needed saying.......The Prick!


This has definitely got to be post of the week.

Such wit, such poise, such drama. All in a few lines.

Amazing stuff.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: BlueNoseMike on May 15, 2016, 11:55:24 PM
Nice to end on a high and plenty to still be pleased about

But fuck me there's been some bad pettiness and name calling recently (due to the overall atmosphere around the club no doubt)

Can we try looking forward to a brighter future and stop having a go at each other.

You fucking Cunts  ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Seahawk on May 15, 2016, 11:55:51 PM
This has definitely got to be post of the week.

Such wit, such poise, such drama. All in a few lines.

Amazing stuff.
Silence I Kill You.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Simon Paul on May 15, 2016, 11:58:16 PM
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: TSGun on May 15, 2016, 11:59:32 PM
I hope Con's not a teenager, not sure the patients would be comfortable with that...

Unless...@Confucius, are you really Doogie Howser?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Silas on May 16, 2016, 12:00:35 AM
I hope Con's not a teenager, not sure the patients would be comfortable with that...

Unless...@Confucius, are you really Doogie Howser?

How I Met Your Muslim?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Rodenplav64 on May 16, 2016, 12:00:50 AM
I have read many of your posts.  At first with amusement, regarding your apparent fixation of all things Muslim/Everton.  I then read your posts pertaining to whether RM should stay or go.  Your argument to keep him was both blinkered and child like.  I had you down as a teenage troll (see avatar 'I See You I kill You') but you are obviously far worse.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.....but you just go out of your way to be a complete prick. 
Have 'they' (not we.......poss kopite) unveiled JM.
I don't agree with every post on here.  It is a forum and forums are all about debate.  You on the other hand are nothing but an antagonist who gets his kicks by being a small keyboard assassin.
In short...... I consider you a no more than the bell whiff of a cock womble.
Apologies to NSO Members'Mods and Si, but it needed saying.......The Prick!


Season ending post . " Stop touching me " . I have to say it brought a tear to my eye . But calling him teenage and then using " Bell whiff " come on . Lets just look forward to next season and hopefully less to polarise us all .
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Major Clanger on May 16, 2016, 12:06:27 AM
I have read many of your posts.  At first with amusement, regarding your apparent fixation of all things Muslim/Everton.  I then read your posts pertaining to whether RM should stay or go.  Your argument to keep him was both blinkered and child like.  I had you down as a teenage troll (see avatar 'I See You I kill You') but you are obviously far worse.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.....but you just go out of your way to be a complete prick. 
Have 'they' (not we.......poss kopite) unveiled JM.
I don't agree with every post on here.  It is a forum and forums are all about debate.  You on the other hand are nothing but an antagonist who gets his kicks by being a small keyboard assassin.
In short...... I consider you a no more than the bell whiff of a cock womble.
Apologies to NSO Members'Mods and Si, but it needed saying.......The Prick!

Well done mate. It was about time somebody stood up to him. :)

 lolol lolol lolol
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Ross on May 16, 2016, 12:12:38 AM
I have read many of your posts.  At first with amusement, regarding your apparent fixation of all things Muslim/Everton.  I then read your posts pertaining to whether RM should stay or go.  Your argument to keep him was both blinkered and child like.  I had you down as a teenage troll (see avatar 'I See You I kill You') but you are obviously far worse.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.....but you just go out of your way to be a complete prick. 
Have 'they' (not we.......poss kopite) unveiled JM.
I don't agree with every post on here.  It is a forum and forums are all about debate.  You on the other hand are nothing but an antagonist who gets his kicks by being a small keyboard assassin.
In short...... I consider you a no more than the bell whiff of a cock womble.
Apologies to NSO Members'Mods and Si, but it needed saying.......The Prick!


(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/qfbvrlaxksuqbvbpfcey.gif)
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Fynci on May 16, 2016, 12:15:27 AM
https://twitter.com/efcfanscorner/status/731883913493250048 Naismith is something else.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Thom on May 16, 2016, 12:20:18 AM
A great feeling to have that kind of atmosphere at Goodison again today. Playing attractive, pressing attacking football under blue skies once more.

Dowell, Kenny and Davies were extremely impressive today and, based on those performances, look to have a very bright future at Everton.

Boss send off for Howard at the end there too. Very emotional scenes watching that video on Facebook just then, and wish him all the luck in the world for the rest of his career.

All in all, a good day to be Blue. They've been few and far between in the past two seasons, but there's every reason to be optimistic moving forward now.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 16, 2016, 12:36:11 AM
I hope Con's not a teenager, not sure the patients would be comfortable with that...

Unless...@Confucius, are you really Doogie Howser?

He can't be, he's a muslim remember.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Simon Paul on May 16, 2016, 12:37:10 AM
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 16, 2016, 12:37:13 AM
https://twitter.com/efcfanscorner/status/731883913493250048 Naismith is something else.

That's brilliant.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Tony Clifton on May 16, 2016, 12:55:35 AM
https://twitter.com/efcfanscorner/status/731883913493250048 Naismith is something else.

I hope we stashed Naismith somewhere, directed Niasse to the Norwich coach afterwards...  Niassmith!  Like nothing ever happened.

This fucking club, I love it.

Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Simon Paul on May 16, 2016, 01:01:41 AM
I hope we stashed Naismith somewhere, directed Niasse to the Norwich coach afterwards...  Niassmith!  Like nothing ever happened.

This fucking club, I love it.

the Norwich fans were chanting "What a waste of money" at him

to be fair though, he had just passed the ball out of play while under very little pressure at all from ten yards
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on May 16, 2016, 01:02:50 AM
Wow. Someone just gave Dr Muhammad Chicken burger a real basting.

Vicious business.

In other news happiness returned to Goodison park.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Tony Clifton on May 16, 2016, 01:09:36 AM
the Norwich fans were chanting "What a waste of money" at him

to be fair though, he had just passed the ball out of play while under very little pressure at all from ten yards

Niassmith? :D
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Fern on May 16, 2016, 01:27:54 AM
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/qfbvrlaxksuqbvbpfcey.gif)

Same sentiments goes to you as well :)
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: ally2 on May 16, 2016, 01:40:49 AM
Was good fun today. Everyone in good spirits. And really pleased with the new lads that played. And this was SERIOUSLY needed after an absolute shite season.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cozzie on May 16, 2016, 01:43:40 AM
Naismith is fucking boss, isn't he?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Simon Paul on May 16, 2016, 01:45:16 AM
Baines falling in his face taking a free kick was boss
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Confucius on May 16, 2016, 01:58:45 AM

Silence I Kill You.

HAHA!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Ross on May 16, 2016, 02:01:44 AM
Same sentiments goes to you as well :)

Did you see Eurovision this weekend?


You remind me so much of my second favourite one ever after "making your mind up"....






Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: brap2 on May 16, 2016, 02:45:10 AM
Some fella by me had me really wound up unfortunately. Giving lukaku absolute hell for every little thing.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Risky on May 16, 2016, 03:25:54 AM
I was out all afternoon and haven't seen anything of the game, and I've now got this strange long since forgotten feeling of looking forward to the highlights on TV in a bit.  Lovely stuff.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 16, 2016, 03:32:07 AM
boss

https://twitter.com/EFCFeelinBlue/status/731903444005617665
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Cozzie on May 16, 2016, 03:37:30 AM
I love this club.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 16, 2016, 04:31:15 AM
Has to be said, Martinez had the worst goal celebration in managerial history.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Brownie20 on May 16, 2016, 04:32:33 AM
Who said McCarthy would look a different player under a different manager?

That would be me to Blarg yesterday :-)
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Bluedylan on May 16, 2016, 04:36:41 AM
Actually watching MOTD for the first time in months
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 16, 2016, 04:42:11 AM
Actually watching MOTD for the first time in months

I haven't seen that in years :)
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Brownie20 on May 16, 2016, 04:44:12 AM
boss

https://twitter.com/EFCFeelinBlue/status/731903444005617665

I have always and always will love Rhino
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 16, 2016, 04:46:53 AM
I haven't seen that in years :)

How different is it than the "Goal Zone" or whatever it is that MSNBC ran for 2 hours at noon today?  Before the lovely Leicester wank piece at 2.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blargins on May 16, 2016, 04:47:52 AM
How different is it than the "Goal Zone" or whatever it is that MSNBC ran for 2 hours at noon today?  Before the lovely Leicester wank piece at 2.

Never seen it, so wouldn't know. I only really watch our games, I don't bother with the spin offs.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: benny on May 16, 2016, 04:52:14 AM
boss

https://twitter.com/EFCFeelinBlue/status/731903444005617665

            brilliant  :cheers:
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Ell Capitan on May 16, 2016, 05:52:37 AM
the split second where it looked like Howard might go up and take the pen was class.

Comfortable win against a championship quality side.

The kids did amazingly - Dowell and in particular Davies looked so assured and fearless, you could imagine that's the kind of attitude Roberto was trying to foster throughout the youth set up. If so, I hope it continues.

Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: blueski on May 16, 2016, 06:37:36 AM
Actually watching MOTD for the first time in months
same here
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Dave Gewiss on May 16, 2016, 11:56:35 AM
Anybody got a conspiracy theory as to why Funes Mori didn't even make the bench?
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Ell Capitan on May 16, 2016, 01:22:22 PM
Anybody got a conspiracy theory as to why Funes Mori didn't even make the bench?

He's shit
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: GLewis on May 16, 2016, 01:28:05 PM

He's shit
Oof.

Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: GLewis on May 16, 2016, 01:28:38 PM
Think in this case we had the two young defenders on the bench and I presume Pennington would have been used as the CB sub.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Polledreng on May 16, 2016, 03:34:22 PM
Anybody got a conspiracy theory as to why Funes Mori didn't even make the bench?
I seem to remember Unsworth said he would pick a team that had showed him they wanted to win for Everton. Hence the youngsters and no Besic Funes Mori and Oviedo,,,, Barkley on the bench was what surprised me...
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 16, 2016, 03:38:13 PM
I seem to remember Unsworth said he would pick a team that had showed him they wanted to win for Everton. Hence the youngsters and no Besic Funes Mori and Oviedo,,,, Barkley on the bench was what surprised me...
Tbf si did say last week that royle doesn't rate Barkley and if what was said is true that it was a royle and unsworth side then it was no surprise

Also, Dowell was a certainty to play

Besic hasn't looked anyway near fit enough since his return, probably rushed back so hopefully a break for him, a good pre season and we will see him again

Funes mori....  I think it was just to give the kids some experience
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Toddacelli on May 16, 2016, 04:51:55 PM
Tbf si did say last week that royle doesn't rate Barkley and if what was said is true that it was a royle and unsworth side then it was no surprise

Also, Dowell was a certainty to play

Besic hasn't looked anyway near fit enough since his return, probably rushed back so hopefully a break for him, a good pre season and we will see him again

Funes mori....  I think it was just to give the kids some experience

It sounds a bit mad and I love, love, love Barkley - but I can understand why other people don't rate him.

In a conversation with a pain in the arse Spurs fan about Delli Alli and Barkley I said they were the two most promising England midfielders. He came back with "Promising? Delli Alli's already delivering mate, week in, week out, how much longer is Barkley going to be promising before you realise he's never gonna live up to it?"

I had to agree with the consistency aspect (which hurts), I just hope the new manager gets the best out of our Ross, because it's all there for him if he wants it.

Anyways:

Last game - great result
Howard - great send off
Naismith - great lad
Rhino & Joe - great Evertonians
Performance - great change
New manager - great hopes
Youngsters - great expectations

Everton - we WILL be great again!
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: GLewis on May 16, 2016, 05:07:40 PM

Tbf si did say last week that royle doesn't rate Barkley and if what was said is true that it was a royle and unsworth side then it was no surprise

Also, Dowell was a certainty to play

Besic hasn't looked anyway near fit enough since his return, probably rushed back so hopefully a break for him, a good pre season and we will see him again

Funes mori....  I think it was just to give the kids some experience

Noticed Unsy gave Barkley a rollicking for not chasing back once after he lost the ball.

Made a pleasant change.

Can't wait for a new manager to get him properly into shape.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 16, 2016, 05:23:15 PM
It sounds a bit mad and I love, love, love Barkley - but I can understand why other people don't rate him.

In a conversation with a pain in the arse Spurs fan about Delli Alli and Barkley I said they were the two most promising England midfielders. He came back with "Promising? Delli Alli's already delivering mate, week in, week out, how much longer is Barkley going to be promising before you realise he's never gonna live up to it?"

I had to agree with the consistency aspect (which hurts), I just hope the new manager gets the best out of our Ross, because it's all there for him if he wants it.

Anyways:

Last game - great result
Howard - great send off
Naismith - great lad
Rhino & Joe - great Evertonians
Performance - great change
New manager - great hopes
Youngsters - great expectations

Everton - we WILL be great again!
We are notoriously harsh on our own

Heres a comparison of Barkley, Dele Alli and world player of the year*, Coutinho

There isnt a lot between Barkley and Dele Alli at all. The media have fell in love with Dele Alli, our own fans dont appreciate what a talent Barkley is already and could be so what chance has he got winning over other teams fans

* According to @Shogun (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1108) and Garth Crooks' team of the year centre midfielder

http://www.squawka.com/comparison-matrix#|premier_league/2015/2016/dele_alli/165/165/18185/0/p|premier_league/2015/2016/philippe_coutinho/165/165/2673/0/p#total_passes/successful_passes/key_passes/assists/chances_created/goals_scored/total_shots/shot_accuracy#total
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 16, 2016, 05:29:21 PM
Well Once again that fucking link didnt work
So accroding to squawka heres the stats

Games played Barkley 38, DA 33 PC 26
Total Passes B 1776 DA 1075 PC 1081
Succesful Passes B 1530 DA 813 PC 852
Key Passes B47 DA 46 PC 44
Assists B 8 DA 9 PC 5
Chances Created B 55 DA 54 PC 49
Goals B 8 DA 10 PC 8
Shots B 95 DA 74 PC 111
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Toddacelli on May 16, 2016, 05:41:26 PM
We are notoriously harsh on our own

Heres a comparison of Barkley, Dele Alli and world player of the year*, Coutinho

There isnt a lot between Barkley and Dele Alli at all. The media have fell in love with Dele Alli, our own fans dont appreciate what a talent Barkley is already and could be so what chance has he got winning over other teams fans

* According to @Shogun (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1108) and Garth Crooks' team of the year centre midfielder

http://www.squawka.com/comparison-matrix#|premier_league/2015/2016/dele_alli/165/165/18185/0/p|premier_league/2015/2016/philippe_coutinho/165/165/2673/0/p#total_passes/successful_passes/key_passes/assists/chances_created/goals_scored/total_shots/shot_accuracy#total

I stand corrected - said the man in the orthopoedic shoe.

I've had a look at the stats and there are areas where each outperforms the other but on the whole I am surprised with how favourably Barkley compares.

Maybe I am buying into the bias against our own players? I didn't think I was that guy! I don't wanna be that guy!

But the games I've seen (and most on here wil have seen more than me), I have come away with the impression that if Barkley could just raise his game 10% then he could be like Ronaldo (the original of course, not the Portuguese pretender).
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 16, 2016, 05:48:23 PM
I stand corrected - said the man in the orthopoedic shoe.

I've had a look at the stats and there are areas where each outperforms the other but on the whole I am surprised with how favourably Barkley compares.

Maybe I am buying into the bias against our own players? I didn't think I was that guy! I don't wanna be that guy!

But the games I've seen (and most on here wil have seen more than me), I have come away with the impression that if Barkley could just raise his game 10% then he could be like Ronaldo (the original of course, not the Portuguese pretender).
Like @GLewis (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=258) said, I cant wait for a new manager to get hold of him. I think he could be anything he wants to be honest, i do however think he will drop deeper and dele alli will in general stay further forward
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Toddacelli on May 17, 2016, 11:32:51 PM
Like @GLewis (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=258) said, I cant wait for a new manager to get hold of him. I think he could be anything he wants to be honest, i do however think he will drop deeper and dele alli will in general stay further forward

I agree that it is the likely position he will develop into, however, I'd love to see him further forward, shooting from around the box and causing problems.
Title: Re: Everton v Norwich
Post by: Goaljira on May 18, 2016, 06:03:10 PM
Well Once again that fucking link didnt work
So accroding to squawka heres the stats

Games played Barkley 38, DA 33 PC 26
Total Passes B 1776 DA 1075 PC 1081
Succesful Passes B 1530 DA 813 PC 852
Key Passes B47 DA 46 PC 44
Assists B 8 DA 9 PC 5
Chances Created B 55 DA 54 PC 49
Goals B 8 DA 10 PC 8
Shots B 95 DA 74 PC 111

I stand corrected - said the man in the orthopoedic shoe.

I've had a look at the stats and there are areas where each outperforms the other but on the whole I am surprised with how favourably Barkley compares.

Maybe I am buying into the bias against our own players? I didn't think I was that guy! I don't wanna be that guy!

But the games I've seen (and most on here wil have seen more than me), I have come away with the impression that if Barkley could just raise his game 10% then he could be like Ronaldo (the original of course, not the Portuguese pretender).

The thing is like everything the media is very of the 'now'.  Most of Ross' goals and assists came in the first half of the season, and compared to that the second half has been a bit disappointing.  On the whole though he's had a good season stats wise.

Like you've both said, with a new manager we'll hopefully be able to see a properly fit Ross make a step up again, and be the player everyone wants him to be and be back to shooting from everywhere.