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Title: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 31, 2017, 11:07:57 PM
Seems to be getting more and more interest lately regarding how they get on, signings etc so a thread maybe nice to keep upto date

I'll kick it off with this assured pen last night

https://twitter.com/simonwatt1/status/826169435413237760
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Thornton_19 on January 31, 2017, 11:13:34 PM
Their last game of the season is against Liverpool. If they can or already have won the league by then we should totally have that game at Goodison
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Confucius on January 31, 2017, 11:13:54 PM
HAHA!. Looks like a penalty for my u12 days
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 31, 2017, 11:14:01 PM
Are we six clear now?

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on January 31, 2017, 11:15:13 PM
Seems to be getting more and more interest lately regarding how they get on, signings etc so a thread maybe nice to keep upto date

I'll kick it off with this assured pen last night

https://twitter.com/simonwatt1/status/826169435413237760

Give that lad the armband
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bally on February 01, 2017, 12:05:44 AM
Their last game of the season is against Liverpool. If they can or already have won the league by then we should totally have that game at Goodison
Got a message on twitter about this, I have put it to the fans forum to see if there's anything we can do to persuade for that to happen, it may already be in the planning though.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on February 01, 2017, 12:14:00 AM
Got a message on twitter about this, I have put it to the fans forum to see if there's anything we can do to persuade for that to happen, it may already be in the planning though.


They've got my vote Bally - make sure you tell them that!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on February 01, 2017, 12:53:35 AM
Good shout Jim. Was thinking given the increasing importance placed on the U23s by the club, we should have a thread.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on February 01, 2017, 12:56:01 AM
That penalty is mint. I can smell the Utd keepers fume from here. Twat.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: pjk on February 01, 2017, 01:03:27 AM
That penalty is mint. I can smell the Utd keepers fume from here. Twat.



Serves their keeper right giving it the big one. He looks a bit feisty young Sambou. :)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 01, 2017, 01:26:32 AM
Who played 14 last night? Someone on a Utd forum said they couldn't cope with him at all
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Confucius on February 01, 2017, 01:52:04 AM
Who played 14 last night? Someone on a Utd forum said they couldn't cope with him at all

Donkor
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: American Evertonian on February 01, 2017, 02:04:50 AM
Donkor

Lookman on one wing and Donkor on the other. Bright future if they live up to the hype.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Danny on February 01, 2017, 03:05:56 AM
Just seen Sambou's other goal on youtube, looks an exciting player.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bigmanbob on February 01, 2017, 03:17:49 AM
Are we six clear now?


Yep, City who are 2nd drew 3-3
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Craig_1878 on February 01, 2017, 04:29:57 AM
Donkor

It was Sambou - Donkor was No 11.

He looks an exciting prospect does Sambou, quick and has an eye for goal.

Liam Walsh has looked a tidy player whenever I've seen him too.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on February 07, 2017, 02:55:12 AM
City won earlier to cut the gap to 3 points. Our U23s are in action against Arsenal, and just went up 1-0 in the 86th minute through Nathan Broadhead. Looks like that's the final, so we restore the 6 point lead atop the table!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 07, 2017, 02:56:16 AM
City won earlier to cut the gap to 3 points. Our U23s are in action against Arsenal, and just went up 1-0 in the 86th minute through Nathan Broadhead. Looks like that's the final, so we restore the 6 point lead atop the table!
Thought broadbend had left
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on February 07, 2017, 03:44:18 AM
Sam Byrne played, been out for ages good to see him back playing.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on February 07, 2017, 04:33:26 AM
Six points clear.

Impressive
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Thornton_19 on February 07, 2017, 05:41:26 AM
Am i right in thinking there are 6 games left?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on February 07, 2017, 05:47:05 AM
Am i right in thinking there are 6 games left?

Looks like it. Southampton, at Manchester City, at Derby, Tottenham, at Chelsea, and Liverpool. The City game is massive, as we could potentially open up a 9 point gap with four games remaining, and conceivably wrap up the title the following match.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bigmanbob on February 07, 2017, 01:44:47 PM
Thought broadbend had left
Nope there was an Echo article on hima couple of weeks ago, he's another they've high hopes for
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bigmanbob on February 07, 2017, 01:46:28 PM
City won earlier to cut the gap to 3 points. Our U23s are in action against Arsenal, and just went up 1-0 in the 86th minute through Nathan Broadhead. Looks like that's the final, so we restore the 6 point lead atop the table!
Sounded like awful conditions, the report I read said Donkor struggled a bit last night but the defense was absolutely unbreakable lead expertly by Matthew Pennington
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on February 07, 2017, 02:53:25 PM
The future is looking really good
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on February 07, 2017, 03:52:50 PM
The future is looking really good

We just need to make sure we utilise the loan system well to ensure we get decent amounts for ones who won't make it here. Like the shite seem to do.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Hawkandro on February 07, 2017, 06:12:49 PM
Thought broadbend had left

Nathan Holland left to join West Ham. Broadhead is meant to be very highly rated. Natural goalscorer (I read somewhere) apparently.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 07, 2017, 06:29:27 PM
Nathan Holland left to join West Ham. Broadhead is meant to be very highly rated. Natural goalscorer (I read somewhere) apparently.
Thought Id read two lads had played for Stoke (I think) with the thoughts of leaving
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 07, 2017, 07:26:55 PM
Thought Id read two lads had played for Stoke (I think) with the thoughts of leaving
was definitely 2. I read that article. No clue who though
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 07, 2017, 07:31:23 PM
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-duo-trial-stoke-city-12535086.amp

Bainbridge broadbend
Tomato tomatoe
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on February 07, 2017, 08:11:37 PM
Pennington seems to be getting lots of plaudits today. I know he's been injured for a while and he's now 22 but is he good enough to make it? Anyone seen much of him? He seemed to be overlooked in the Browning/Stones/Holgate hype.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: pjk on February 07, 2017, 08:22:39 PM
Unsworth is hugely impressed with him. :)



http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/02/07/faultless-pennington-led-the-way
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on February 07, 2017, 08:31:03 PM
Is he a big lad? What we seem to lack at the minute are commanding presences and height. Holgate looks good but not the height to be a commanding centre half, Williams similarly. Mori needs upgrading but we lack proper physical presences. Schneiderlin has helped in that respect.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on February 07, 2017, 08:46:43 PM
Pennington coming in for some serious praise.

Always impressed me when I've seen him play. He got an injury at the worst possible time.

I think he'll be in contention of Baines gets injured.

I do worry that he and browning may get lost in the shuffle.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on February 07, 2017, 08:51:18 PM
Pennington coming in for some serious praise.

Always impressed me when I've seen him play. He got an injury at the worst possible time.

I think he'll be in contention of Baines gets injured.

I do worry that he and browning may get lost in the shuffle.

Pennington is right footed though ain't he? I'm not sure if he'll come into the same category as Galloway/Garbutt/Robinson on the left.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on February 07, 2017, 08:53:34 PM
Pennington is right footed though ain't he? I'm not sure if he'll come into the same category as Galloway/Garbutt/Robinson on the left.

Galloways out on loan.
Garbutt trains with the under 23s
And is Robinson any good? Can't say I've heard of him tbh

Pennington is already very versatile so I think he could perform the role if required
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bigmanbob on February 07, 2017, 09:01:07 PM
Thought Id read two lads had played for Stoke (I think) with the thoughts of leaving
How unfortunate for them, I could think of nothing worse
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Hawkandro on February 07, 2017, 10:44:17 PM
Pennington impressed me when he played under RM.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Confucius on February 07, 2017, 11:01:36 PM
Pennington reminds me of jagielka in terms of size and pace. he is a CB isn't he?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Rhys on February 07, 2017, 11:41:05 PM
Pennington seems to be getting lots of plaudits today. I know he's been injured for a while and he's now 22 but is he good enough to make it? Anyone seen much of him? He seemed to be overlooked in the Browning/Stones/Holgate hype.

Only seen him limited times but I dont think he will make it at us, seems the type that will end up going to a Championship team and could then rise into becoming a premier league level defender. He isnt massive, not small either but I'm unsure whether he lacks a bit of pace but certainly seems like he knows how to defend when ive seen him at various levels.

Given we are heavily linked with Keane and VVD, looked like we tried for Manolas etc a major centre half signing is one of our priorities. If we get that signing, have Williams, Mori, Holgate ahead of him then it's hard to see where he will get many games. At his age 22 it is getting to the point where he is that far down the order that he himself must be thinking is it better to look down the Forshaw route and go and play week in week out at a lower level and build a career.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on February 07, 2017, 11:46:20 PM
Only seen him limited times but I dont think he will make it at us, seems the type that will end up going to a Championship team and could then rise into becoming a premier league level defender. He isnt massive, not small either but I'm unsure whether he lacks a bit of pace but certainly seems like he knows how to defend when ive seen him at various levels.

Given we are heavily linked with Keane and VVD, looked like we tried for Manolas etc a major centre half signing is one of our priorities. If we get that signing, have Williams, Mori, Holgate ahead of him then it's hard to see where he will get many games. At his age 22 it is getting to the point where he is that far down the order that he himself must be thinking is it better to look down the Forshaw route and go and play week in week out at a lower level and build a career.

Let's get him out on loan to a decent championship side so that we can put him in the shop window and get some proper money for him then. Letting his contract run down after a stint at somewhere like Oxford is what the old Everton used to do with our half decent prospects.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 07, 2017, 11:55:32 PM
Let's get him out on loan to a decent championship side so that we can put him in the shop window and get some proper money for him then. Letting his contract run down after a stint at somewhere like Oxford is what the old Everton used to do with our half decent prospects.
Bournemouth were willing to pay 6m for a lad from Liverpool who barely played for Liverpool..... we really don't make enough money off our young lads
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on February 08, 2017, 12:02:40 AM
Bournemouth were willing to pay 6m for a lad from Liverpool who barely played for Liverpool..... we really don't make enough money off our young lads

They also got £15m for a lad who had barely done anything but just because Rodgers called him the new Raheem Sterling it got everyone excited.

We'll never get the value the shite get but something would be nice.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ross on February 08, 2017, 12:21:02 AM
Much rather we do right by the academy graduates that don't make the grade here and look to set them on the best career path for themselves rather than worry about making a few million pound here and there.

We've a duty of career after all and still need to help them make the most of their career and talent as an when a decision is made to move them on.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on February 08, 2017, 12:26:13 AM
Galloways out on loan.
Garbutt trains with the under 23s
And is Robinson any good? Can't say I've heard of him tbh

Pennington is already very versatile so I think he could perform the role if required

Highly rated Robinson, despite being mega young like 17/18 I think??
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on February 08, 2017, 12:33:45 AM
Much rather we do right by the academy graduates that don't make the grade here and look to set them on the best career path for themselves rather than worry about making a few million pound here and there.

We've a duty of career after all and still need to help them make the most of their career and talent as an when a decision is made to move them on.

Which is why striving to send them out on loan at the highest possible level is the best we can do for them. I clearly don't know the ins and outs but players like Ledson for example, who was highly rated by everyone not just within the club but at international level, finds himself at Oxford and others like him find themselves lost in the lower leagues. Whereas the shite's obscure reserves find themselves still at a decent level when they move on.

I think the more professional setup we have now will reap dividends not just for us but for the kids as well.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on February 08, 2017, 12:50:35 AM
They also got £15m for a lad who had barely done anything but just because Rodgers called him the new Raheem Sterling it got everyone excited.

We'll never get the value the shite get but something would be nice.
I feel sorry for these young lads with the terrible black stain on their souls.....
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ross on February 08, 2017, 12:56:07 AM
Which is why striving to send them out on loan at the highest possible level is the best we can do for them. I clearly don't know the ins and outs but players like Ledson for example, who was highly rated by everyone not just within the club but at international level, finds himself at Oxford and others like him find themselves lost in the lower leagues. Whereas the shite's obscure reserves find themselves still at a decent level when they move on.

I think the more professional setup we have now will reap dividends not just for us but for the kids as well.

No sending them to the club that offers them the best possible opportunities of advancement is the right thing to for them, you only have to see how Galloway has fared this season at West Brom to see that. If he'd have gone to Newcastle or Derby it's likely he'd have came back in the summer with 40 odd senior games under his belt rather than having spent 40 odd games sat on his backside. Sadly we decided to prioritise the money over the players advancement and we and him will be worse off for it in the long run.

I can't believe youre making a comparison to the shite as well. Our academy has proven far superior over the last 20+ years in comparison to theirs. We've produced footballers fit for the premiership time and again in that period, saving ourselves multiple millions in the process, as well as launching dozens of local kids into professional football.

It's a ridiculous point, the sale of Wayne Rooney alone has probably eclipsed whatever the shite have gained from their graduate sales in the last 20 years, that's before you factor in the fees for Rodwell, Anichebe, Vaughan.....

All we need to do is carry on doing right by individual like we have been, it's clearly working.

Do right by each and every graduate and don't treat them as pieces of meat.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on February 08, 2017, 01:46:43 AM
No sending them to the club that offers them the best possible opportunities of advancement is the right thing to for them, you only have to see how Galloway has fared this season at West Brom to see that. If he'd have gone to Newcastle or Derby it's likely he'd have came back in the summer with 40 odd senior games under his belt rather than having spent 40 odd games sat on his backside. Sadly we decided to prioritise the money over the players advancement and we and him will be worse off for it in the long run.

I can't believe youre making a comparison to the shite as well. Our academy has proven far superior over the last 20+ years in comparison to theirs. We've produced footballers fit for the premiership time and again in that period, saving ourselves multiple millions in the process, as well as launching dozens of local kids into professional football.

It's a ridiculous point, the sale of Wayne Rooney alone has probably eclipsed whatever the shite have gained from their graduate sales in the last 20 years, that's before you factor in the fees for Rodwell, Anichebe, Vaughan.....

All we need to do is carry on doing right by individual like we have been, it's clearly working.

Do right by each and every graduate and don't treat them as pieces of meat.


There was nothing wrong with the Galloway loan in principle, he'd be getting valuable experience at the top level under a defensive manager. He started the season playing in the 1st team but a run of poor form and the failure to put in a recall clause meant it wasn't as beneficial as planned. It was definitely worth a shot.

As I said, the new setup we have across the whole club will benefit everyone concerned now from top to bottom.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Hawkandro on February 08, 2017, 01:55:32 AM
What actually happened with Ledson? He was regarded as the brightest midfielder in Britain; did he just not kick on when needed?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ross on February 08, 2017, 04:44:42 AM
There was nothing wrong with the Galloway loan in principle, he'd be getting valuable experience at the top level under a defensive manager. He started the season playing in the 1st team but a run of poor form and the failure to put in a recall clause meant it wasn't as beneficial as planned. It was definitely worth a shot.

As I said, the new setup we have across the whole club will benefit everyone concerned now from top to bottom.

What apart from the simple fact Pulis has no history of developing young talent?

He was taken in as back up when they had an injury crisis and as soon as senior players were fit they took his place. It wasn't to do with form that he was dropped, because Galloways form was fine, in fact they did quite well in the 3 games he started in if I recall correctly. It was just a poor choice of club and just because they're a premiership club, a "big club", shouldn't come into it for what should be obvious reasons.

I'm also pretty sure you can't place a recall option when it's a long term loan is between two premiership clubs.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jamokachi on February 08, 2017, 05:02:06 AM
Much rather we do right by the academy graduates that don't make the grade here and look to set them on the best career path for themselves rather than worry about making a few million pound here and there.

We've a duty of career after all and still need to help them make the most of their career and talent as an when a decision is made to move them on.

Was about to say the very same. Thankfully I think this is the attitude we have, the Jose Baxter situation being an indication of such.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bob Sacamano on February 08, 2017, 05:21:45 AM
Common knowledge that Galloway was struggling during his minutes there and in general West Brom fans don't have a fucking clue why they signed him.

It takes three to tango. They wanted him, he wanted to go, we wanted him to prove that he's Prem standard. Let's get the deal done.

I don't remember anyone moaning that he went there, with many enthused that it was smart business. At the end of the day it's Galloway' a fault that he can't overtake Chris Brunt as West Brom's left back.

Seems like someone continues to make shit up just to argue with people on the internet.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Rhys on February 08, 2017, 06:14:35 AM
What apart from the simple fact Pulis has no history of developing young talent?

He was taken in as back up when they had an injury crisis and as soon as senior players were fit they took his place. It wasn't to do with form that he was dropped, because Galloways form was fine, in fact they did quite well in the 3 games he started in if I recall correctly. It was just a poor choice of club and just because they're a premiership club, a "big club", shouldn't come into it for what should be obvious reasons.

I'm also pretty sure you can't place a recall option when it's a long term loan is between two premiership clubs.

Chelsea did with ake which is why they brought him back in January.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jamokachi on February 08, 2017, 09:13:51 AM
Re: Galloway, I think it's pretty evident (with the benefit of hindsight) that a move to the Championship would have been better for the lad. He's not quite Premier League week in week out standard yet, christ he came to us from MK Dons... that's a big step, especially for a defender. Getting regular games for Newcastle or Derby etc would have been hugely beneficial to his development, as well as confidence.

At West Brom he's behind some good players in that West Brom team, guys who are having a great season. There's no shame in not being able to force his way in. Neither is he a left back by trade. We played him there and he looked alright but he's a centre back. Given Pulis' penchant for absolute cloggers at the back does Galloway actually fit the mold?

More realistically West Brom saw a cheap option of providing cover for their defence. If we are interested in the development of the player and see him as a long term option this isn't good for us. Neither is it good for the player.

Perhaps we don't see his future with us? Perhaps we were lead on by West Brom and this was their intentions all along? Perhaps Pulis simply doesn't rate Galloway as much as he thought he did and plans have changed?

If we do see his future with us, then West Brom was the wrong option. That much is obvious.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on February 08, 2017, 04:31:25 PM
Chelsea did with ake which is why they brought him back in January.

Which is weird because there really used to be a rule like that.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bigmanbob on February 08, 2017, 07:04:17 PM
Love this, this is exactly what I do with my under 14 side    http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/revealed-evertons-young-players-banned-12569456
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 08, 2017, 10:10:04 PM
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/02/08/blues-urged-to-support-inspirational-u23s
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on February 08, 2017, 11:16:30 PM
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/02/08/blues-urged-to-support-inspirational-u23s

Half term as well Monday night sorted
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on February 09, 2017, 03:54:50 AM
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/02/08/blues-urged-to-support-inspirational-u23s

Do they serve bevvies at U23 games?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: dazfrancis on February 26, 2017, 10:39:05 PM
Don;t know if he's still U23 but Conor McAleny scored a hattrick for Oxford United yesterday
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on February 26, 2017, 11:05:44 PM
Don;t know if he's still U23 but Conor McAleny scored a hattrick for Oxford United yesterday

He's in the U33's these days.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on February 27, 2017, 12:32:14 AM
He's in the U33's these days.

With Yakubu
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bluedylan on March 01, 2017, 03:04:56 AM
http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/10785303/future-is-bright-for-everton
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bluedylan on March 04, 2017, 12:28:51 AM
Big game against City tonight in the league. Think it's streamed live on the club's FB page, if anyone wants to watch.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 04, 2017, 12:35:47 AM
Big game against City tonight in the league. Think it's streamed live on the club's FB page, if anyone wants to watch.

Nice one, will give it a watch.

Some Everton away trip gang are all going to Derby away to see them potentially clinch the title. Great fans.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 04, 2017, 12:57:31 AM
streamed on Citys fb page https://www.facebook.com/mancity/?fref=ts
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 04, 2017, 01:12:23 AM
Diaz for them looks v good. We havent got going yet at all.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Simon Paul on March 04, 2017, 01:24:45 AM
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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Confucius on March 04, 2017, 01:57:54 AM
Must be quite a shit game if the highlights are showing the game next door through the stands.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Everton Mint on March 04, 2017, 02:08:13 AM
Draw will do us here and keep the 6 pt lead.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 04, 2017, 02:23:54 AM
Losing 1-0 :(
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 04, 2017, 02:29:06 AM
2-0 *sigh*
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Everton Mint on March 04, 2017, 02:29:08 AM
Ah nooo 0-2 :(
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 04, 2017, 02:34:03 AM
Gotta be honest we look dreadful tonight.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 04, 2017, 02:35:03 AM
3
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Everton Mint on March 04, 2017, 02:35:31 AM
0-3 WTF has happened to the defence.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on March 04, 2017, 02:35:54 AM
It's a night to learn from, then forget.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Everton Mint on March 04, 2017, 02:59:07 AM
We seemed to have a couple of losses of concentration at the back and they took full advantage with some neat footwork and finishes.

Hopefully the lads wont take it too hard and come back strong.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on March 04, 2017, 04:41:12 AM
Gap now 3 pts?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 04, 2017, 05:43:31 AM
Gap now 3 pts?

Yeah an we have Chelsea and the shite to play hahah hope we don't bottle it!!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on March 04, 2017, 05:51:24 AM
At least it sounds like Besic and Calvert Lewin are fit enough to start playing in the U23s now, should help going in to their last 3 games.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Goaljira on March 04, 2017, 01:08:08 PM
At least it sounds like Besic and Calvert Lewin are fit enough to start playing in the U23s now, should help going in to their last 3 games.
Depends how much the club want to win the league but Holgate, Davies and Lookman could be drafted in for the last couple of games surely?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Danny on March 04, 2017, 02:21:25 PM
Depends how much the club want to win the league but Holgate, Davies and Lookman could be drafted in for the last couple of games surely?

Absolutely no point in that, if they weren't getting a game for the First team then sure but it's not like they're just sitting on the bench and not coming on.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on March 04, 2017, 02:33:14 PM
Yeah an we have Chelsea and the shite to play hahah hope we don't bottle it!!

We have the shite last game don't we?

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bally on March 04, 2017, 02:50:18 PM
We have the shite last game don't we?
Yup fans forum trying to get it moved to goodison
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: farnhamtoffee on March 04, 2017, 03:26:39 PM
Is the Chelsea game away ? Hope so,they play their home games at Aldershots ground,only a couple of miles away from me,will pop along & give the lads some support.
 
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bigmanbob on March 06, 2017, 02:53:00 AM
Absolutely no point in that, if they weren't getting a game for the First team then sure but it's not like they're just sitting on the bench and not coming on.
Holgates not had much game time of late, it won't do him any harm
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: blue1948 on March 08, 2017, 10:04:44 PM
Absolutely no point in that, if they weren't getting a game for the First team then sure but it's not like they're just sitting on the bench and not coming on.

You don't seem to understand ! NSNO
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on March 08, 2017, 11:24:18 PM
You don't seem to understand ! NSNO

It's the rezzies, mate. The aim is purely to make players ready for the first team. If you already are in the first team squad every week, there's nothing to be gained by playing there.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on March 09, 2017, 12:06:25 AM
It's the rezzies, mate. The aim is purely to make players ready for the first team. If you already are in the first team squad every week, there's nothing to be gained by playing there.

There's nothing to be gained from sitting on the bench week in week out at this stage of the season either. It won't do any of the lads mentioned any harm at all to have a proper 90 minute runout.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 09, 2017, 12:09:08 AM
There's nothing to be gained from sitting on the bench week in week out at this stage of the season either. It won't do any of the lads mentioned any harm at all to have a proper 90 minute runout.
Tom Davies is playing every week. Lookman is either starting or coming on (in general) Holgate maybe could do with a game
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on March 09, 2017, 12:09:13 AM
There's nothing to be gained from sitting on the bench week in week out at this stage of the season either. It won't do any of the lads mentioned any harm at all to have a proper 90 minute runout.

Lookman and Davies play regularly.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: blue1948 on March 09, 2017, 02:22:47 AM
It's the rezzies, mate. The aim is purely to make players ready for the first team. If you already are in the first team squad every week, there's nothing to be gained by playing there.

Sorry I cannot see your point ,if the u23's win the league then it will instill a winning mentality that can't be bought and would far outweigh any -well let's be honest here ( no chance ) of going higher in the prem
,plus it wouldn't hurt any of the players chances of "regaining " their places.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on March 09, 2017, 02:29:26 AM
,plus it wouldn't hurt any of the players chances of "regaining " their places.

"Regaining"? What the hell are we talking about? Lookman and Davies are first team regulars, there's been the one game where Lookman didn't even come off the bench, but other than that, they're playing in every game.

Would it help them develop a winning mentality by winning a kids competition nobody cares about? Or would it help the kids that the "big boys" come down and win the league for them? How?

And what sort of message would that send out anyway? "You're nice lads but we don't trust you to win the league on your own, so we've brought in some help for you."

Let them bounce back after a poor performance and win it under their own steam. They're more than capable of it.

That, and only that would be of any use to them as professionals.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: blue1948 on March 09, 2017, 10:23:07 AM
"Regaining"? What the hell are we talking about? Lookman and Davies are first team regulars, there's been the one game where Lookman didn't even come off the bench, but other than that, they're playing in every game.

Would it help them develop a winning mentality by winning a kids competition nobody cares about? Or would it help the kids that the "big boys" come down and win the league for them? How?

And what sort of message would that send out anyway? "You're nice lads but we don't trust you to win the league on your own, so we've brought in some help for you."

Let them bounce back after a poor performance and win it under their own steam. They're more than capable of it.

That, and only that would be of any use to them as professionals.

Well I see the point you are making ,let me clarify it for my sake . First you think that it is a competition that no one cares about ! ask the lads and Unsy .Second you think that them playing against kids would be a "drop down" for Lookman and Davies ! That is what they are and they most probably will not hold down a regular place yet anyway .Thirdly you also think that them playing two games is going to change the achievement for the u23's ! They must be already pissed because they had Niasse scoring a few goals and Davies played a lot of games for them already .Thought about this whilst writing and it seems you don't understand
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on March 09, 2017, 02:49:03 PM
Lookman and Davies play regularly.

Holgate was the only one mentioned wasn't he. That's who I was referring to, he could do with a runout.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on March 09, 2017, 03:19:13 PM
Holgate was the only one mentioned wasn't he. That's who I was referring to, he could do with a runout.

Yes, he definitely could.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on March 09, 2017, 05:08:44 PM
Holgate is very poor centre half.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: hill135 on March 09, 2017, 05:18:39 PM
Holgate is very poor centre half.



Mate he's 20 years old!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on March 09, 2017, 05:20:14 PM
I'm still struggling to see what exactly Holgate will progress to be. He's not got the physique to be a centre half really but he looks decent in a back 3, which doesn't lend itself to much game time. He could probably mould himself into a Kyle Walker type player who's more competent defensively but then Coleman has got plenty of miles left on the clock. I dunno.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on March 09, 2017, 06:34:17 PM
Mate he's 20 years old!

I know that.

His age is irrelevant to the discussion though.

He's been as poor as, if not worse, than mori and Williams.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: blue1948 on March 09, 2017, 08:16:30 PM
I know that.

His age is irrelevant to the discussion though.

He's been as poor as, if not worse, than mori and Williams.



I think you are just winding us up .How can age be irrelevant  ? even you were a kid once .I would play him more than Ronald as I think he has a lot to offer and more when he gets experience and I am sure he will get more time soon
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on March 09, 2017, 09:24:40 PM
I think you are just winding us up .How can age be irrelevant  ? even you were a kid once .I would play him more than Ronald as I think he has a lot to offer and more when he gets experience and I am sure he will get more time soon

Because we are talking about him coming into the team now.

In my opinion he has been as poor as Williams and Mori this season when played centre half. He clearly isn't ready to be playing there regularly.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on March 09, 2017, 10:45:27 PM
Because we are talking about him coming into the team now.

Are we?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 10, 2017, 12:22:07 AM
Are Mori and Williams very poor centre halves? 5 clean sheets in 8. Wales and Argentina internationals. We've got a very good defensive record this season. Quite the miracle given how terrible our defenders and keeper are
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on March 10, 2017, 01:39:19 AM
Are Mori and Williams very poor centre halves? 5 clean sheets in 8. Wales and Argentina internationals. We've got a very good defensive record this season. Quite the miracle given how terrible our defenders and keeper are

Heitinga played in a World Cup final.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on March 10, 2017, 02:06:41 AM
Think Holgate as been Boss lads, not been on the losing side, and had one bad 1st half against Stoke , when they all played shite..........

everyone was raving about him ...........

we have one really bad game against Spurs when everyone was awful apart from Ross and this place goes into meltdown
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 10, 2017, 02:20:58 AM
I dont think Holgate has been quite as bad as ram says and I don't think he has been boss either

Somewhere in between, which would be expected in his first Pl season
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: blue slug on March 10, 2017, 02:27:51 AM
Holgate has been as good as your going to get from a defefender of his age. I really rate him but he's going to have poor games
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ross on March 10, 2017, 02:59:26 AM
Holgate has been as good as your going to get from a defefender of his age. I really rate him but he's going to have poor games

I've not seen that many e's since the 051 was closed down..
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 10, 2017, 04:17:15 AM
Heitinga played in a World Cup final.

No these players have been part of our very successful defence this season. You'd think they'd spent the season conceding goals and shitting in everyone's kettles the way people on here talk about them. I'm not talking about a 6 game competition where you only play 3 sides of similar quality

Joel, Williams and Mori have all been part of our success this season. That doesn't mean we shouldn't sign better/competition but it probably does mean claims that they are shit are wide of the mark and comments like "I hate him" a little odd
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on March 10, 2017, 04:23:42 AM
No these players have been part of our very successful defence this season. You'd think they'd spent the season conceding goals and shitting in everyone's kettles the way people on here talk about them. I'm not talking about a 6 game competition where you only play 3 sides of similar quality

Joel, Williams and Mori have all been part of our success this season. That doesn't mean we shouldn't sign better/competition but it probably does mean claims that they are shit are wide of the mark and comments like "I hate him" a little odd

Well, saying that you hate a player who tries his best is a little odd, whether they're any good or not.

And I certainly don't sign up to the whole good-shit spectrum stuff at all. You can't reduce a player's ability to just one number representing his quality.

The way I see it (and I'm probably wrong) is that Williams and Mori are quite dependable up to a point. But if you put pressure on them beyond that point, they crumble. Like Mori against Spurs, we know his passing ability is virtually non-existent, which is normally not a massive deal, except when the opposition targets it.

So it is quite possible that we'd be better off overall with defenders who aren't even as dependable against (for want of a better word) "lesser" teams but their performance degrades less dramatically against tough opposition.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ross on March 10, 2017, 04:38:13 AM
Well, saying that you hate a player who tries his best is a little odd, whether they're any good or not.

And I certainly don't sign up to the whole good-shit spectrum stuff at all. You can't reduce a player's ability to just one number representing his quality.

The way I see it (and I'm probably wrong) is that Williams and Mori are quite dependable up to a point. But if you put pressure on them beyond that point, they crumble. Like Mori against Spurs, we know his passing ability is virtually non-existent, which is normally not a massive deal, except when the opposition targets it.

So it is quite possible that we'd be better off overall with defenders who aren't even as dependable against (for want of a better word) "lesser" teams but their performance degrades less dramatically against tough opposition.


Have you seen Mori passing stats for the Spurs game?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on March 10, 2017, 04:45:47 AM
Have you seen Mori passing stats for the Spurs game?

No, please enlighten me.

But what I saw was clear: Spurs kept forcing him to try one of his hopeful balls into nowhere by closing down all his easy options.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ross on March 10, 2017, 04:54:41 AM
No, please enlighten me.

But what I saw was clear: Spurs kept forcing him to try one of his hopeful balls into nowhere by closing down all his easy options.

Theyre out there for everyone to see I'm sure you're more than familiar with google.

Do you think we targeted Alderweireld or Vertonghen?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jamokachi on March 10, 2017, 05:09:56 AM
Plenty of hyperbole going on here
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on March 10, 2017, 05:10:58 AM
Theyre out there for everyone to see I'm sure you're more than familiar with google.

Do you think we targeted Alderweireld or Vertonghen?

No, because we didn't.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on March 10, 2017, 05:21:31 AM
Okay, @Ross (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2316), this is just for you.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8-2016/matches/855438/player-stats/121221/OVERALL_02#tabs-wrapper-anchor

Noticed the conspicuous absence of blue arrows pointing in the opposition half and the large number of reds in comparison?

Now, let's take a look at Vertonghen.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8-2016/matches/855438/player-stats/39194/OVERALL_02#tabs-wrapper-anchor

Hmm, that does look quite different. But maybe it's just a general reflection of how poor we were. Surely, Williams's forward passing must have been similarly wayward.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8-2016/matches/855438/player-stats/19159/OVERALL_02#tabs-wrapper-anchor

Ermm, nope. But note how Williams didn't even try to put the ball over the halfway line.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ross on March 10, 2017, 05:40:04 AM
Okay, @Ross (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2316), this is just for you.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8-2016/matches/855438/player-stats/121221/OVERALL_02#tabs-wrapper-anchor

Noticed the conspicuous absence of blue arrows pointing in the opposition half and the large number of reds in comparison?

Now, let's take a look at Vertonghen.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8-2016/matches/855438/player-stats/39194/OVERALL_02#tabs-wrapper-anchor

Hmm, that does look quite different. But maybe it's just a general reflection of how poor we were. Surely, Williams's forward passing must have been similarly wayward.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8-2016/matches/855438/player-stats/19159/OVERALL_02#tabs-wrapper-anchor

Ermm, nope. But note how Williams didn't even try to put the ball over the halfway line.

Hmmm missed Alderweireld off deliberately or couldn't you find him? Forget the fact Williams only passed the ball about 30 times compared to Mori playing it 60ish? Did you bother seeing the pass completing stats between Vertonghen and Mori?

Good to know you're googles back up though!

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on March 10, 2017, 05:59:28 AM
Hmmm missed Alderweireld off deliberately or couldn't you find him?

Alderweireld failed with quite a few of his forward passes, but we put absolutely no pressure on him. And he still succeeded with more.

Forget the fact Williams only passed the ball about 30 times compared to Mori playing it 60ish?

Exactamundo, my dear @Ross (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2316). It is precisely what I'm talking about. They were happy for Mori to have the ball and give it to them. Thank you for confirming it. :)

Did you bother seeing the pass completing stats between Vertonghen and Mori?

No, because they are meaningless for central defenders, seeing as they mostly pass between each other. As everybody who knows anything about football knows.

It's always better to believe your eyes rather than relying on the narrow sliver of information these boiled down stats give you.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Goaljira on March 10, 2017, 12:10:44 PM
Anyway, how about those table topping U23s eh?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Rhys on March 10, 2017, 02:38:56 PM
Hmmm missed Alderweireld off deliberately or couldn't you find him? Forget the fact Williams only passed the ball about 30 times compared to Mori playing it 60ish? Did you bother seeing the pass completing stats between Vertonghen and Mori?

Good to know you're googles back up though!



You can't use how many passes someone has over the other centre half when Spurs clearly left mori open to force us to him and closed down options to get it to other people. Centre half passing % should be very high as most of the time it's to their centre half partner, keeper or midfielder a few yards away.

i haven't reviewed the stats but I don't need to remember the number of times mori put it straight out, easier passes didn't go near men. One of his problems is he seems to have grand ideas he is a footballing centre half so instead of when he is stuck with no pass on and under pressure just playing the percentage ball of say putting it in the channel he tries something he shouldn't.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 14, 2017, 12:32:53 AM
Holgate playing tonight...
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on March 14, 2017, 12:59:04 AM
You can't use how many passes someone has over the other centre half when Spurs clearly left mori open to force us to him and closed down options to get it to other people. Centre half passing % should be very high as most of the time it's to their centre half partner, keeper or midfielder a few yards away.

i haven't reviewed the stats but I don't need to remember the number of times mori put it straight out, easier passes didn't go near men. One of his problems is he seems to have grand ideas he is a footballing centre half so instead of when he is stuck with no pass on and under pressure just playing the percentage ball of say putting it in the channel he tries something he shouldn't.

Must be getting told to play it, can't see Koeman not just seeing his arse after the second or third one.

jags Williams and him are all guilty of the feckless punt, Williams even cleared a ball directly into the middle of the pitch at the weekend.

Fell straight to their 10, luckily enough it was some clogger and not hazard or god forbid coutinho.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 14, 2017, 01:17:44 AM
winning 1- 0 already
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on March 14, 2017, 01:22:53 AM
Sambou 1-0 15mins 

City winning 1-0 @ Arsenal
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Trowel on March 14, 2017, 01:48:14 AM
1-1.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Trowel on March 14, 2017, 01:48:44 AM
Err, now 2-1 down.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on March 14, 2017, 02:10:21 AM
City winning 2-1
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on March 14, 2017, 02:15:06 AM
Oh dear
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on March 14, 2017, 02:28:21 AM
city 2-2
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on March 14, 2017, 02:34:18 AM
city winning again 3-2
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 14, 2017, 02:37:46 AM
fucking this up arent we
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 14, 2017, 02:38:08 AM
2-2 now
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 14, 2017, 02:39:15 AM
winning 3-2 hahahah come onnnn
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on March 14, 2017, 02:39:50 AM
Crazy games tonight.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on March 14, 2017, 02:47:19 AM
Yes the lads
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 14, 2017, 02:49:38 AM
Liam Walsh with a pen off the back of his player of the month award... I really hope he makes it
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: kramer0 on March 14, 2017, 02:54:07 AM
David Henen lives.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on March 14, 2017, 02:56:34 AM
Great win.

What a job unsworth is doing
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Trowel on March 14, 2017, 02:56:44 AM
Amazing result - not Everton that!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Trowel on March 14, 2017, 02:57:46 AM
And Arsenal have equalised,  3-3!!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on March 14, 2017, 03:00:02 AM
5pt gap now Arsenal Equaliser 97th Min
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 14, 2017, 03:02:24 AM
get the fuck in!!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: ForzaItalia on March 14, 2017, 02:02:46 PM
How did Holgate play? Shit?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 14, 2017, 05:53:29 PM
Now thats how to take a pen

https://twitter.com/WM_TotalFutbol/status/841474365699039232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Rhys on March 14, 2017, 06:24:52 PM
Now thats how to take a pen

https://twitter.com/WM_TotalFutbol/status/841474365699039232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Agreed. The Sambou one the other week will get more discussion because of what it looks like but thats a proper penalty. Power and accuracy like that can't be saved.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 14, 2017, 06:25:15 PM
Also, two very well worked goals
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 14, 2017, 06:25:59 PM
Agreed. The Sambou one the other week will get more discussion because of what it looks like but thats a proper penalty. Power and accuracy like that can't be saved.
Kepper went the right way and was absolutely nowhere near it!!!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on March 14, 2017, 06:32:02 PM
I can see unsworth getting a managers job in the near future.

Stubbs got the hibs job doing a much worse job.

Obviously I'd like him to stay and continue his good work but it'll be interesting to see how he gets on.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GLewis on March 14, 2017, 06:42:28 PM
I can see unsworth getting a managers job in the near future.

Stubbs got the hibs job doing a much worse job.

Obviously I'd like him to stay and continue his good work but it'll be interesting to see how he gets on.

I've wondered for a while why there isn't a loan system for coaches like there is for players.

We could send unsy somewhere for 2 years for example.

It'd be cheap for the hiring club as they wouldn't have to pay full manager wages, there wouldn't be potential compensation packages etc. should things not be working out and they'd have access to up and coming coaches from the top clubs.

The coaches would have to take a potential hit on what they might be earning if they were working independently (outside of the loan system) but they might be offered more opportunities if the financial risk is lower and therefore gain more exposure.

Meanwhile we would get to see these coaches in the real world.

I think part of the reason may be that there's still a need in England to think that your manager might be there for 5-10 years and therefore a short term loan isn't ideal. But I think everything is moving away from this so maybe it will happen?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on March 14, 2017, 06:47:15 PM
I've wondered for a while why there isn't a loan system for coaches like there is for players.

We could send unsy somewhere for 2 years for example.

It'd be cheap for the hiring club as they wouldn't have to pay full manager wages, there wouldn't be potential compensation packages etc. should things not be working out and they'd have access to up and coming coaches from the top clubs.

The coaches would have to take a potential hit on what they might be earning if they were working independently (outside of the loan system) but they might be offered more opportunities if the financial risk is lower and therefore gain more exposure.

Meanwhile we would get to see these coaches in the real world.

I think part of the reason may be that there's still a need in England to think that your manager might be there for 5-10 years and therefore a short term loan isn't ideal. But I think everything is moving away from this so maybe it will happen?


This is a brilliant idea.

Phone the FA immediately.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Confucius on March 14, 2017, 06:50:58 PM
I've wondered for a while why there isn't a loan system for coaches like there is for players.

We could send unsy somewhere for 2 years for example.

It'd be cheap for the hiring club as they wouldn't have to pay full manager wages, there wouldn't be potential compensation packages etc. should things not be working out and they'd have access to up and coming coaches from the top clubs.

The coaches would have to take a potential hit on what they might be earning if they were working independently (outside of the loan system) but they might be offered more opportunities if the financial risk is lower and therefore gain more exposure.

Meanwhile we would get to see these coaches in the real world.

I think part of the reason may be that there's still a need in England to think that your manager might be there for 5-10 years and therefore a short term loan isn't ideal. But I think everything is moving away from this so maybe it will happen?

I think conflict of interest is probably the biggest one. A player going out on loan can't really change much. A manager has quite a bit of influence.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: kramer0 on March 14, 2017, 07:54:35 PM
Now thats how to take a pen

https://twitter.com/WM_TotalFutbol/status/841474365699039232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Pretty much everything we do in those highlights runs through Dowell. Can't wait to see him play with the first team again.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GLewis on March 14, 2017, 07:56:27 PM
I think conflict of interest is probably the biggest one. A player going out on loan can't really change much. A manager has quite a bit of influence.
Yes maybe.

You could limit it to clubs outside of your division although there'd still be potential cup matches to consider.

I'd be surprised if that was the reason it doesn't happen though.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GLewis on March 14, 2017, 07:58:39 PM
Pretty much everything we do in those highlights runs through Dowell. Can't wait to see him play with the first team again.

Dowell is definitely someone worth keeping on until he's 22/23 even if it's not obvious that he's going to make it.

Much like Ossie, that type of player who isn't that fast needs time and matches to appreciate what they need to do to get round this.

Hopefully we can find him a club on loan who will play him all the time to get him some of that experience.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on March 14, 2017, 08:23:26 PM
Pretty much everything we do in those highlights runs through Dowell. Can't wait to see him play with the first team again.

He looked a class above when I watched the under 23s the other week.

His touch, passing, and vision was on another level.

But, his lack of physicality will let him down at premier league level.

Needs a loan out next year in the championship.

Technically though it's all there.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on March 14, 2017, 10:15:49 PM
With 3 matches left, we're 5 points up on City. Unfortunately, the next round of fixtures is 4 weeks out. But a win at home vs Spurs gives the U23s the title if City fails to win. A draw coupled with a City loss would mean we would finish at worst level on points, with a superior (but not quite insurmountable) goal differential.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on March 14, 2017, 10:53:41 PM
He looked a class above when I watched the under 23s the other week.

His touch, passing, and vision was on another level.

But, his lack of physicality will let him down at premier league level.

Needs a loan out next year in the championship.

Technically though it's all there.

Unsy said he's grown in height and weight this year so maybe he's a late developer. He's just got that languid style that some people just don't take to, similar to Mesut Ozil. 
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bob Sacamano on March 15, 2017, 01:53:22 PM
I feel like Dowel has filled out since I last saw u23 highlights.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Elgoodo1978 on March 15, 2017, 10:04:44 PM
He looked a class above when I watched the under 23s the other week.

His touch, passing, and vision was on another level.

But, his lack of physicality will let him down at premier league level.

Needs a loan out next year in the championship.

Technically though it's all there.

He reminds me of a fitter and far less lazy Matt Le Tissier. 
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on March 16, 2017, 12:21:48 AM
He reminds me of a fitter and far less lazy Matt Le Tissier. 

That sounds amazing!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 16, 2017, 12:27:52 AM
That sounds amazing!

Sounds like 1 of the best players in the world. Think given he's playing for our under 23s it might be a little OTT.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: ally2 on March 16, 2017, 01:01:12 AM
That's it. He's the next Matt Le Tissier. No pressure lad
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Elgoodo1978 on March 16, 2017, 02:47:34 AM
That's it. He's the next Matt Le Tissier. No pressure lad


.
Maybe I should have elaborated, but I never released I could have such a compelling effect on the lad.

How he plays and some of the goals he has scored reminds of Le Tiss but with more of a swagger, albeit at a completely different level. So I enjoy watching him play partly because he reminds me of another player I enjoyed watching in the past (who was a lazy bastard). So much so that I did indeed decide to watch some of the old Le Tissier goals from back in the day. 

In addition, I also think he has the look of a young Lee Mavers about him, and although I'm not expecting him to write the next 'looking glass', I did put on The LA's album last week.


Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: ally2 on March 16, 2017, 03:06:06 AM

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Maybe I should have elaborated, but I never released I could have such a compelling effect on the lad.

How he plays and some of the goals he has scored reminds of Le Tiss but with more of a swagger, albeit at a completely different level. So I enjoy watching him play partly because he reminds me of another player I enjoyed watching in the past (who was a lazy bastard). So much so that I did indeed decide to watch some of the old Le Tissier goals from back in the day. 

In addition, I also think he has the look of a young Lee Mavers about him, and although I'm not expecting him to write the next 'looking glass', I did put on The LA's album last week.

Yeah it's OK I knew what you meant. My favourite type of player so let's hope we see some nice stuff from him at whatever level he gets to.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on March 16, 2017, 03:15:09 AM
Come on, you can't have any more swagger than Le Tiss. :)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on March 16, 2017, 04:36:50 AM
Le tissier's a knob head.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Elgoodo1978 on March 16, 2017, 03:53:10 PM
Yeah it's OK I knew what you meant. My favourite type of player so let's hope we see some nice stuff from him at whatever level he gets to.

Here, here
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 23, 2017, 05:58:54 PM
Everton are in talks with Nottingham Forest over a deal for teenage midfielder Brennan Johnson, as the club step up their search for the countryís leading young talents.

Johnson, 15, is the son of former Forest and Ipswich striker David and Everton have seen a number of bids rejected by the Championship club.

Everton want to sign the England under-16 international this season but have been told to pay around £1million, with director of football Steve Walsh now expected to enter negotiations. The deal could go to a tribunal if Everton fail to agree a fee.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on March 23, 2017, 07:43:02 PM
Million quid for a 15 year old, fucking hell
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GLewis on March 23, 2017, 07:53:26 PM
Million quid for a 15 year old, fucking hell

Didn't Arsenal pay more than that for Jermaine Pennant about 15 years ago?

We're just behind the curve!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ross on March 23, 2017, 07:55:41 PM
Didn't Arsenal pay more than that for Jermaine Pennant about 15 years ago?

We're just behind the curve!

Wasn't it about £5m they paid?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Robioto on March 23, 2017, 08:10:30 PM
Wasn't it about £5m they paid?

I think it was just over £2m.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: hill135 on March 23, 2017, 08:44:55 PM
Didn't we pay more for George Green?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Rhys on March 23, 2017, 08:49:18 PM
Didn't we pay more for George Green?

300k up front. The deal was rising to 2m based on future incentives, so unless it was number of Bacardi breezers strawpedo'd I dont think it will have gone above 300k.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GLewis on March 23, 2017, 08:51:23 PM
Wasn't it about £5m they paid?

That was them buying Sterling from QPR. Or Ibe from Wycombe.

Maybe both?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 23, 2017, 09:10:24 PM
anywhere to watch the England game? Dowel, Lookman and Kenny all starting...
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on March 23, 2017, 10:52:10 PM
Pay for them using haribo jellies, it they don't like that then offer them some tangfastic's
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Robioto on March 24, 2017, 12:08:18 AM
anywhere to watch the England game? Dowel, Lookman and Kenny all starting...

BT Sport 2. 19:00 k/o

Bit of a bonus for me, I'm working late tonight, I'll stick it on in the background.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 24, 2017, 12:10:11 AM
BT Sport 2. 19:00 k/o

Bit of a bonus for me, I'm working late tonight, I'll stick it on in the background.

eh? its already finished haha was 2-2
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Robioto on March 24, 2017, 12:11:27 AM
eh? its already finished haha was 2-2

Ha, shit, haven't got a clue what I was reading then!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: ajax_andy on March 24, 2017, 12:43:31 AM
Million quid for a 15 year old, fucking hell

We paid that for Scott Spencer
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 24, 2017, 12:44:47 AM
It's an absolute bargain if we've any confidence in the lad. Wouldn't have to achieve much in football to be worth double that.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on March 24, 2017, 01:20:05 AM
It's not much in football terms, but ignore that for a moment and just think about it: you pay £1m so that a 15 year old kid can come and kick a ball around with you rather than someone else.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on March 24, 2017, 06:50:51 PM
It's not much in football terms, but ignore that for a moment and just think about it: you pay £1m so that a 15 year old kid can come and kick a ball around with you rather than someone else.

We don't wanna go down that road...   there's no stadiums built if we go down that road...
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on March 24, 2017, 08:26:37 PM
eh? its already finished haha was 2-2

What level was this?

Davies is still playing for the under 19s which i find really strange
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 24, 2017, 08:27:06 PM
What level was this?

Davies is still playing for the under 19s which i find really strange
Under 20's

Think there was 5 current Everton players in the squad alongside Ryan Ledson

Not a bad effort
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GLewis on March 24, 2017, 08:42:18 PM
What level was this?

Davies is still playing for the under 19s which i find really strange

Assume it's the Chalobah that's playing for Chelsea in there too.

It's very hard to track player potential at national level for those age groups.

Although I think these are important games for the u19s so they may have requested those two for example.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 24, 2017, 09:10:44 PM
Assume it's the Chalobah that's playing for Chelsea in there too.

It's very hard to track player potential at national level for those age groups.

Although I think these are important games for the u19s so they may have requested those two for example.
Isn't he about 22 now?

Edit, nathaniel is 22 his brother trevoh, yes trevoh is 17
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Rhys on March 24, 2017, 09:11:33 PM
It's also possible in the younger groups they are trying to keep people more in line with their actual age groups in unless they are going into the senior team. I know the FA mentioned that's what Spain did when they were winning loads of younger tournaments in the 2000s and then they went and won the 3 senior tournaments from 2008-12.

So they may think it is more beneficial for players to stick together and get the experiences of playing every age group rather than keep shifting people up and down.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on March 24, 2017, 09:12:24 PM
Assume it's the Chalobah that's playing for Chelsea in there too.

It's very hard to track player potential at national level for those age groups.

Although I think these are important games for the u19s so they may have requested those two for example.

He does have a brother called Trevor who I think is younger, may be him?

True. You expect Davies to be playing for the 21s soon enough though
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Goaljira on March 24, 2017, 09:21:08 PM
Isn't he about 22 now?

Edit, nathaniel is 22 his brother trevoh, yes trevoh is 17

Trevoh?  That sounds like the caveman pronunciation of Trevor.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Goaljira on March 24, 2017, 09:21:48 PM
He does have a brother called Trevor who I think is younger, may be him?

True. You expect Davies to be playing for the 21s soon enough though

If he carries on for the next 15 months as he has the last 4 then I'd expect him to go to the WC!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on March 24, 2017, 09:23:11 PM
If he carries on for the next 15 months as he has the last 4 then I'd expect him to go to the WC!

Way too soon
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Goaljira on March 24, 2017, 09:24:05 PM
Way too soon

Yeah, but that doesn't normally stop England taking players.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on March 26, 2017, 02:18:55 PM
What level was this?

Davies is still playing for the under 19s which i find really strange

I think he's the captain which may have contributed towards the decision.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 09, 2017, 12:24:44 AM
City cut the gap back to 2pts with 4-1 win last night against Derby..............

we play   Monday

Against Spurs 
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 11, 2017, 12:14:36 AM
Big game tonight
Is Galloway back at Everton now?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 11, 2017, 12:17:02 AM
Strong side that(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170410/4d766be8bf51d6444a810cfa63aa16db.jpg)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: kramer0 on April 11, 2017, 12:28:26 AM
Besic is redundant in that midfield. Williams is the destroyer, Walsh dictates the pace, and Besic does a little bit of both without really adding anything in particular. We'd be better off with Charsley in his place (or even in Williams' place) for those late, well-timed runs into the box. I understand that we're trying to get Besic back to full fitness but we should also be trying to win the league and Walsh/Williams/Charsley have all been stalwarts for Unsworth at various points. (Also, I feel pretty meh about Besic being back. I think he's another that has too much to learn to ever reach the required level, though it does make sense for Koeman to get a good look before he moves him on.)

No complaints about Calvert-Lewin or Lookman. They need games so it's fair to slot them in when they aren't involved with the first team.

Also... Galloway is back?

Edit: And yes, it's dumb for me to pick holes in a U23 team, especially given that Unsworth clearly knows what he's doing. I'm aware of this.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Elgoodo1978 on April 11, 2017, 12:34:19 AM
Look out Messi, Mo is back.  I bloody love little mo, welcome back you unassuming hard bastard!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lincs Toffee on April 11, 2017, 12:50:33 AM
Is there anywhere we can watch this (other than at Goodison ofc) or do we have to wait for limited highlights tomorrow ?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on April 11, 2017, 12:51:37 AM
Is there anywhere we can watch this (other than at Goodison ofc) or do we have to wait for limited highlights tomorrow ?

I think it's on Facebook.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lincs Toffee on April 11, 2017, 12:52:40 AM
Ah thought that was just live updates, ok will check, cheers !
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 11, 2017, 12:55:05 AM
Is there anywhere we can watch this (other than at Goodison ofc) or do we have to wait for limited highlights tomorrow ?
Live on fb so maybe other sites have it too
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 11, 2017, 01:06:18 AM
Is there anywhere we can watch this (other than at Goodison ofc) or do we have to wait for limited highlights tomorrow ?

It's on Facebook through the everton page
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Trowel on April 11, 2017, 01:16:32 AM
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/04/10/watch-live-under23s-v-spurs
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on April 11, 2017, 01:22:46 AM
Did not know Galloway was back.

That's some team for the under 23s.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 11, 2017, 01:32:05 AM
Nil nil thhity mins in
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: dazfrancis on April 11, 2017, 01:49:52 AM
That Anthony Robinson is basically a clone of young Leighton Baines
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Trowel on April 11, 2017, 02:02:06 AM
Liking the look of Robinson on the ball and defensively - as you say a clone of Baines, playing exactly the same style of balls infield or down the line. Haven't seen his delivery yet though.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on April 11, 2017, 02:22:52 AM
Was just gonna say I understand why Lookman didn't get a chance in the past few games and he only goes and scores :)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 11, 2017, 02:30:42 AM
2-0 Sambou
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on April 11, 2017, 02:35:07 AM
I don't know if this deserves its own thread, but whats the story on Galloway?


Boss 3rd goal as well.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on April 11, 2017, 02:36:01 AM
Was just gonna say this is the worst I've seen Dowell play and he only goes and scores :)

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 11, 2017, 02:36:22 AM
I don't know if this deserves its own thread, but whats the story on Galloway?


Boss 3rd goal as well.
Can play for our u23s apparently despite being on Loan
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on April 11, 2017, 02:41:42 AM
Can play for our u23s apparently despite being on Loan

Crazy that
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Robioto on April 11, 2017, 02:50:11 AM
Can play for our u23s apparently despite being on Loan

Never knew that...
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 11, 2017, 02:57:24 AM
Final Score 4-1 1pt needed to be champs
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 11, 2017, 02:59:23 AM
Yeah it seems a pretty daft thing like
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 11, 2017, 02:59:38 AM
Final Score 4-1 1pt needed to be champs
Who got the fourth
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: dazfrancis on April 11, 2017, 03:04:53 AM
DCL thanks to a poor clearence from their keeper
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Danny on April 11, 2017, 03:38:19 AM
Sambou's goal is quality, love everything I've seen of him so far.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on April 11, 2017, 04:04:10 AM
I need these highlights
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on April 11, 2017, 04:19:45 AM
They're on Facebook.

Sambou's goal is a corker, really tight turn to send the cb.

Dowell's was a very Dowell goal. Got to wonder how far off the first team he is. Maybe we can secure 6th in the next few games and give him a run out 🙂
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 11, 2017, 04:31:40 AM
Didn't know ugo ehiogu was their manager, that's a bit random
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on April 11, 2017, 04:34:05 AM
I don't know if this deserves its own thread, but whats the story on Galloway?


Boss 3rd goal as well.

Pulis has officially released him from his loan move.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on April 11, 2017, 04:51:23 PM
Didn't know ugo ehiogu was their manager, that's a bit random

Love this
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 14, 2017, 10:55:34 PM
Didn't know ugo ehiogu was their manager, that's a bit random

Love this

Really rated him back in the day.

I'm rooting for him to become a top coach/manager now that I know this.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: irishtoffee on April 16, 2017, 04:41:58 AM
How is this league shaping up? Are we 5 points ahead now, how many games left
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 16, 2017, 04:55:58 AM
Two games
We need a win
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on April 16, 2017, 05:51:29 PM
Sambou for the first team squad

Ready made replacement for Valencia next season
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: mikey_blue on April 21, 2017, 07:32:55 PM
Really rated him back in the day.

I'm rooting for him to become a top coach/manager now that I know this.

News that he passed away yesterday. Heart attack. Only 44.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on April 21, 2017, 08:27:52 PM
Oh man :(
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 21, 2017, 10:44:37 PM
The lads can win the league tonight.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 21, 2017, 11:43:18 PM
live on CTv
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: School of Science on April 22, 2017, 12:08:19 AM
live on CTv

What time ?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on April 22, 2017, 12:13:33 AM
what is CTv ?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: blue1948 on April 22, 2017, 12:28:38 AM
what is CTv ?

I think it might be Chelsea TV

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Confucius on April 22, 2017, 12:28:57 AM
what is CTv ?

Chinese TV. Everything is on there.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 22, 2017, 12:38:01 AM
Chelsea TV, 7pm
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: blue1948 on April 22, 2017, 12:43:25 AM
I have a link :-
http://www.stream2watch.cc/live-television/united-kingdom/chelsea-tv-live-stream
No guarantees
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MexicanToffee on April 22, 2017, 12:57:26 AM
Here https://www.facebook.com/Everton/.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on April 22, 2017, 01:07:07 AM
Official stream is fucked.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 22, 2017, 01:08:58 AM
Official stream is fucked.

this works well http://www.stream2watch.cc/live-television/united-kingdom/chelsea-tv-live-stream
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MexicanToffee on April 22, 2017, 01:14:27 AM
Official stream is fucked.
Working fine for me.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: ally2 on April 22, 2017, 01:19:08 AM
We are far superior so far
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on April 22, 2017, 01:19:10 AM
Working fine for me.

It has recovered.

We've started well.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 22, 2017, 01:21:15 AM
losing 1-0 after battering them for 20 mins
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 22, 2017, 01:26:00 AM
still battering them, loads of chances missed so far
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: ally2 on April 22, 2017, 01:30:11 AM
We're pumping them everywhere!  C'mon Everton!  A joy to watch but lets get some goals
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 22, 2017, 01:33:04 AM
Sambou- 1-1
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on April 22, 2017, 01:33:10 AM
Haha, what a shit attempt. :)

1-1
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 22, 2017, 01:44:54 AM
Chelsea starting to dive all over the place,  ref's terrible
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: ally2 on April 22, 2017, 01:45:35 AM
It's so much more watchable in general though as there are very few fouls.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ross on April 22, 2017, 01:56:16 AM
Chelsea's keeper looks like he's eligible for their veterans team.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 22, 2017, 02:15:31 AM
walsh 2-1
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 22, 2017, 02:15:36 AM
get in!!!!! 2-1
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 22, 2017, 02:22:47 AM
2-2  Besic letting them down there
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 22, 2017, 02:23:02 AM
ughhh
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Goaljira on April 22, 2017, 02:31:14 AM
ughhh

I think its spelt Ugbo?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: blargins on April 22, 2017, 02:50:43 AM
What do they need to do to win the title?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: ally2 on April 22, 2017, 02:52:54 AM
Henen has been woeful!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MexicanToffee on April 22, 2017, 02:53:41 AM
What do they need to do to win the title?
To be certain win but a point might be enough
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: blargins on April 22, 2017, 02:54:33 AM
How long left?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Trowel on April 22, 2017, 02:54:52 AM
What a save...
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 22, 2017, 02:57:17 AM
gotta play the shite last game....
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 22, 2017, 02:58:20 AM
should be ok, our GD is massive isnt it?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: ally2 on April 22, 2017, 02:58:43 AM
All over 2-2
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 22, 2017, 02:59:50 AM
finished 2-2   6ts ahead  +8 GD

need 1pt more mathematically   v RS,   
City play the shite on Monday and need to win
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MexicanToffee on April 22, 2017, 03:00:38 AM
gotta play the shite last game....

Things dreams are made of... winning the championship by beating the shite on the last game of the season.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on April 22, 2017, 03:26:31 AM

Things dreams are made of... winning the championship by beating the shite on the last game of the season.

Or potentially even by losing by a small margin.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bluebridge on April 22, 2017, 03:27:33 AM

Things dreams are made of... winning the championship by beating the shite on the last game of the season.
This time next year........................
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on April 22, 2017, 05:49:49 AM
What date is the game against the shite?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bluestevie on April 22, 2017, 06:04:24 AM
What date is the game against the shite?

The 8th, 4 days before the last senior home game v Watford
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MexicanToffee on April 22, 2017, 08:05:39 AM
The 8th, 4 days before the last senior home game v Watford
Would be nice if they got a decent turn out. I know the mini derbies always used to be fairly well attended but I don't know if that is still the case.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on April 22, 2017, 02:29:52 PM
The 8th, 4 days before the last senior home game v Watford

Gotta be played at Goodison surely?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on April 22, 2017, 03:33:51 PM
Yep!

Next up for first team squad?

Sambou, Walsh and Baningime?

Koeman's Kids for Watford!

Renshaw for U23 GK?

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bluedylan on April 22, 2017, 03:40:53 PM
Should be some opportunities for some of these lads in the Europa League next season.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: ally2 on April 22, 2017, 03:51:21 PM
Sambou missed a few chances last night but I've never seen him play before.  Kenny and Robinson at full backs impressed me. The whole team were aggressive and passed the ball well though.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: sam of the south on April 22, 2017, 04:24:19 PM
Really rated him back in the day.

I'm rooting for him to become a top coach/manager now that I know this.

😪
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 22, 2017, 05:07:49 PM
Or if Liverpool beat City on Monday night then they basically hand us the title. Fat chance of that happening tbh.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bluedylan on April 22, 2017, 05:38:28 PM
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/beni-baningime-backed-become-evertons-12929011
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Elgoodo1978 on April 22, 2017, 05:40:22 PM
So impressed with U23s, I reckon there has to be 5 or 6 at least who will make it in the top 2 divisions for sure, lets hope they turn out to be of the elite and in our first team.  Loved Mo Besic's game as well, great to see him back (but I could be biased). With Coleman's injury, surely Kenny has to be given an opportunity sooner rather than later, right?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 22, 2017, 05:47:45 PM
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/beni-baningime-backed-become-evertons-12929011

He was brilliant last night as was Kenny. Future is bright and blue!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on April 22, 2017, 06:29:09 PM
Anyone see what Koeman said?

Basically said at Southampton he didn't play the youngsters because they weren't good enough but at Everton they are.

Thought they had the best academy in the world though?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Cassius on April 22, 2017, 06:41:15 PM
So impressed with U23s, I reckon there has to be 5 or 6 at least who will make it in the top 2 divisions for sure, lets hope they turn out to be of the elite and in our first team.  Loved Mo Besic's game as well, great to see him back (but I could be biased). With Coleman's injury, surely Kenny has to be given an opportunity sooner rather than later, right?


Besic was dogshit yesterday, but clearly massively unfit.

Fullbacks looked great though.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on April 22, 2017, 07:35:43 PM
For last home game against Watford:

 1) Robles
 2) Kenny
 3) Baines
 4) Schneiderlin
 5) Williams
 6) Baningime
 7) Davies
 8) Gueye
 9) Lukaku
10)Barkley
11)Sambou

Subs: Stek, Holgate, Jagielka, Barry, Walsh, Lookman, Calvert-Lewin,



 

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Elgoodo1978 on April 22, 2017, 07:39:03 PM
Besic was dogshit yesterday, but clearly massively unfit.

Fullbacks looked great though.

I thought he got better as the game went on and did pretty good as a centre back.  Nice to see, but yeah a few dodgy moments, put to injury ;-)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: pjk on April 23, 2017, 07:42:58 PM
All you lads and ladies who can make the time and turn up? The final U23 game is free entry at Goodison park on the 8th of may. I'm not up north, otherwise I'd be there. If you manage to get there, I hope you all have a fantastic time. COYBB.


http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/04/23/under23s-final-game-at-goodison :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: blue1948 on April 23, 2017, 09:04:04 PM
It was interesting to see Walshy there as well ,he knows how much we depend on lads coming up from the u23's
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: ally2 on April 23, 2017, 09:14:32 PM
Walshy's everywhere
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on April 23, 2017, 09:33:55 PM
Walshy's everywhere

He's actually got a twin brother who we also employ, to let everyone think we have eyes everywhere.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on April 23, 2017, 09:35:44 PM
He's actually got a twin brother who we also employ, to let everyone think we have eyes everywhere.

Fun fact

His brother actually used to play for us in the 70s
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Silas on April 23, 2017, 10:41:51 PM
Free entry for the Liverpool game people
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 23, 2017, 10:43:35 PM
Free entry for the Liverpool game people

Yeah im guna go.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on April 23, 2017, 10:49:37 PM
I'll be there.

Hopefully they realise that quite a few people will want to go and we won't be queuing outside for ages like last time.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 23, 2017, 11:11:43 PM
1st allocation for upper bullens available 25th , this was for season ticket holders last time , but does not state ST holders this time,  much rather watch from there than the Park end
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 24, 2017, 02:45:57 AM
Can you just turn up with your ST or do you have to pre book it or something?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MexicanToffee on April 25, 2017, 01:13:55 AM
Anyone know how Liverpool are getting on against Man City?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Polledreng on April 25, 2017, 01:17:00 AM
Anyone know how Liverpool are getting on against Man City?
No goals after 15 minutes all I know. Apparantly Liverpool have put out a strong team whatever that means
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Polledreng on April 25, 2017, 01:23:43 AM
No goals after 15 minutes all I know. Apparantly Liverpool have put out a strong team whatever that means
City 1-0 up..... well probably the best a strong Liverpool team can do.... City probably stronger than Crystal Palace aswell..
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 25, 2017, 01:24:02 AM
Trent Arnold gave a pen away,   whipped his leg 1-0 city
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 25, 2017, 01:30:51 AM
Woodburn 1-1
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 25, 2017, 01:33:32 AM
It's on that LFCTV, the only time I've ever watched this channel!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 25, 2017, 02:36:51 AM
First time I've ever cheered a Liverpool goal. 2-1 now Woodburn again.


Edit: fuckin 2-2 now
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 25, 2017, 02:40:15 AM
ah man, come on the shite haha
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on April 25, 2017, 02:41:55 AM
Can you just turn up with your ST or do you have to pre book it or something?
.............your ST includes admission to U23 games but Everton are bound to complicate matters by insisting you book a ticket. Why don't they just open the Main Stand ?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on April 25, 2017, 02:44:44 AM
.............your ST includes admission to U23 games but Everton are bound to complicate matters by insisting you book a ticket. Why don't they just open the Main Stand ?

I would assume there are fairly strict safety rules on crowd admission to a stadium like Goodison Park, and possibly one of them is that you can't just let people in without keeping track.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 25, 2017, 02:48:33 AM
Heart in your mouth stuff then, somehow city hit the post when it was easier to score!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 25, 2017, 02:51:02 AM
we're guna win the league, we're guna win the league, and now they're guna believe us and now they're guna believe us lolol
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 25, 2017, 02:52:22 AM
Aaaa clearance off the line for Liverpool hahaha
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: terrydarracotsbaldpate on April 25, 2017, 02:53:02 AM
Injury time. Terence Trent Derby should have scored
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 25, 2017, 02:53:06 AM
Yessssss 3-2

Stoppage time goal for the shite!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 25, 2017, 02:53:36 AM
Champs  3-2 ,   Gomez cleared off the line 30 secs  befire they went 3-2      usual RS though stoppage time winner 
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 25, 2017, 02:53:47 AM
YEAAHHHH THE SHITE
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: terrydarracotsbaldpate on April 25, 2017, 02:54:31 AM
Gomez looks better than the centre halves the rs had yesterday.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on April 25, 2017, 02:55:02 AM
I would assume there are fairly strict safety rules on crowd admission to a stadium like Goodison Park, and possibly one of them is that you can't just let people in without keeping track.
.........................which is why I suggested just opening the MS which will be big enough and they can keep a check on admissions.  We got 6,000 at the last U23 game and expect more this time. Oddly ,the club are making the Upper Bullens available first .
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Polledreng on April 25, 2017, 02:55:28 AM
Gomez looks better than the centre halves the rs had yesterday.
he could still be shite  ;)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: terrydarracotsbaldpate on April 25, 2017, 02:55:38 AM
Goal for the rs trophy for the blues
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 25, 2017, 02:55:44 AM
Officially PL2 champs :)
Well done lads!!

Well done Unsworth
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 25, 2017, 02:56:25 AM
amazing congrats to all the lads :)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on April 25, 2017, 02:56:31 AM
Champs by Virtue of the shite  :hail:
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 25, 2017, 02:56:36 AM
over
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Gash on April 25, 2017, 03:00:04 AM
Even our U23's have won more Premier League titles than Liverpool. ;)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on April 25, 2017, 03:01:49 AM
Show off that trophy on the 8th!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Robioto on April 25, 2017, 03:24:09 AM
I've always liked Liverpool really. :D

Or not...

This is another sign that all things Everton are good and heading in right direction. Well done Rhino!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: D15TIN on April 25, 2017, 04:03:29 AM
ha Liverpool winning us the title.

great achievement that, hoping to see a few of those players next season, sure walsh, dowell, kenny & Sambou will be involved in europe etc
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on April 25, 2017, 05:00:53 AM
Free entry for last game, hopefully be a decent crowd
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Everton Mint on April 25, 2017, 05:20:38 AM
Brilliant and well-deserved success for all at the amazing Everton Academy.

Big congrats to Unsy ... he is one special coach and a true Blue.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 25, 2017, 05:48:15 AM
Great for the Club , Rhino and the Players ,more important is that they keep developing and some/more make the jump to the 1st team ---that's all that matters in the long run

well done Boys
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jamokachi on April 25, 2017, 06:57:19 AM
Made up with this, well done lads!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: blue1948 on April 25, 2017, 10:43:45 AM
Well done Unsy and the lads ,nothing like winning a trophy .You can't mark it down ,they won the best they could compete for .Brilliant .
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on April 25, 2017, 04:53:48 PM
The future is blue
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on April 25, 2017, 05:33:37 PM
Stadium - check
Recruitment - check
Finances - check
Youth Development - checkedy check bitches!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on April 25, 2017, 05:42:01 PM
Stadium - check
Recruitment - check
Finances - check
Youth Development - checkedy check bitches!

Manager - check

20 goals a season striker - check
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 25, 2017, 08:16:48 PM
Just got my tickets -UB
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on April 25, 2017, 08:20:36 PM
Free entry for last game, hopefully be a decent crowd
.............from The Echo <<<<<<<<<

Blues U23s hope for huge crowd

verton are hoping to attract a crowd of 20,000 for the night they lift the Premier League 2 trophy.

The Bluesí under-23s were confirmed as champions last night as second-placed Manchester City lost 3-2 to Liverpool at Prenton Park.

Everton have an unassailable six point lead heading into their final game of the season at Goodison on May, 8 - against the Reds.

The club have announced that the game is free entry for all supporters and coach David Unsworth wants his side to finish the season with a flourish in front of a bumper attendance.

Unsy said:

We have a massive game at Goodison and Iím sure there are going to be around 20,000 there.
ďSo we need to finish off in style when we lift the trophy.Ē   >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: blue1948 on April 25, 2017, 08:40:13 PM
Let's hope the lads show the 1st team how to do it
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: blargins on April 25, 2017, 09:34:29 PM
Manager - check

20 goals a season striker - check

Owner with a check book - check.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on April 25, 2017, 09:35:40 PM
Owner with a check book - check.
............does anyone use cheques any more ?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: blargins on April 25, 2017, 09:36:15 PM
............does anyone use cheques any more ?

I do all the time.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on April 25, 2017, 09:39:23 PM
I do all the time.
.............can't remember when I last wrote a cheque , everything now is cards or bank transfers. Even my last car I bought with debit card. Times change. Still like to carry cash though.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on April 25, 2017, 09:39:29 PM
Just get tickets through the site then?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on April 25, 2017, 09:41:28 PM
Just get tickets through the site then?
............think it's just box office and Everton One or Two
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bluedylan on April 25, 2017, 09:43:36 PM
How much do we think this means/doesn't mean then? Was listening to a journo, Mike Calvin, on the Echo podcast the other day who has just written a book on youth football saying that the PL2 is basically a load of old shite, and largely ineffective in producing the level of football and players needed to break into Prem teams. He was saying that's why so many clubs loan their best prospects out.

Don't mean to put a downer on things, because I'm buzzing for the lads, but it did give me pause for thought.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MIG on April 25, 2017, 09:59:26 PM
Well we've already had a couple of them come through to the first team.  At least a few more that look like they could make the step up too.

Lets face it, it can't do any harm.  Its better that these players are playing regularly and its nice that they're winning things together with the Everton mentality than spread out all over the country at different teams on loan.  Could be building a future spine of our team.

Course, you'll never win anything with kids ;)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on April 25, 2017, 09:59:48 PM
How much do we think this means/doesn't mean then? Was listening to a journo, Mike Calvin, on the Echo podcast the other day who has just written a book on youth football saying that the PL2 is basically a load of old shite, and largely ineffective in producing the level of football and players needed to break into Prem teams. He was saying that's why so many clubs loan their best prospects out.

Don't mean to put a downer on things, because I'm buzzing for the lads, but it did give me pause for thought.
..................there are 2 divisions of 12 teams each. Only 15 of the current PL have entered teams
Not surprisingly ,the top 7 in the PL2 is the same clubs as the PL with the strange exception of Sunderland instead of Man U. I think it's useful and it's the nearest thing there's been to an old fashioned reserve league like we used to have years ago.
https://www.premierleague.com/tables?team=U21
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on April 25, 2017, 10:00:24 PM
How much do we think this means/doesn't mean then? Was listening to a journo, Mike Calvin, on the Echo podcast the other day who has just written a book on youth football saying that the PL2 is basically a load of old shite, and largely ineffective in producing the level of football and players needed to break into Prem teams. He was saying that's why so many clubs loan their best prospects out.

Don't mean to put a downer on things, because I'm buzzing for the lads, but it did give me pause for thought.

All the more reason to make it work for us.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on April 25, 2017, 10:03:55 PM
How much do we think this means/doesn't mean then? Was listening to a journo, Mike Calvin, on the Echo podcast the other day who has just written a book on youth football saying that the PL2 is basically a load of old shite, and largely ineffective in producing the level of football and players needed to break into Prem teams. He was saying that's why so many clubs loan their best prospects out.

Don't mean to put a downer on things, because I'm buzzing for the lads, but it did give me pause for thought.

You can never quite tell, can you?

However, we've already had three players in DCL, Davies and Holgate become permanent fixtures in the first team, Pennington coming in, as well as dowell, Kenny and Connolly playing last season, Galloway too.

All looking very adept at premier league level.

Granted, the challenge comes when you have a run of games and try to hold your place down but the signs are very promising.

Some of them will make it here, some will fall short but still have good careers in the premier league and they're varying different factors that will come into player. For example, I'd say dowell is the most technically gifted player we've had in the youth ranks since Barkley, but he strikes me as someone who's not quite good enough to make the step up. Then there's someone like Davies, who isn't as good on the ball bit just looks like a premier league player.

One things for sure, it's the most promising crop of youngsters in the country at the moment and it's great to be able to call upon such talents when needed.

Also, dare I say Roberto Martinez deserves a semblance of credit?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on April 25, 2017, 10:06:28 PM
Also, the standard of reserve team football today is a lot better than it was just a few years back.

It was played at a snails pace a few years back. Now it's a geared a lot more to mirror premier league football.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 25, 2017, 10:06:58 PM
How much do we think this means/doesn't mean then? Was listening to a journo, Mike Calvin, on the Echo podcast the other day who has just written a book on youth football saying that the PL2 is basically a load of old shite, and largely ineffective in producing the level of football and players needed to break into Prem teams. He was saying that's why so many clubs loan their best prospects out.

Don't mean to put a downer on things, because I'm buzzing for the lads, but it did give me pause for thought.
I imagine it will provide more oppurtunities for the younger lads to forge careers in football. Whether its with Everton or not
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GLewis on April 25, 2017, 10:15:45 PM
It's hard to tell because you could get lucky that the specific group (as its age limited there's always a regular turnover of personnel) of players happen to gel well together and that's why they're more successful than a team with potentially more talented individuals.

It can't do any harm, winning of course, apart from maybe creating unrealistic expectations that we'll have 5 or 6 players in the first team / squad soon.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 25, 2017, 10:26:07 PM
............think it's just box office and Everton One or Two
t


Yep popped down to the box office, 5 unreserved tickets upper bullens, can see them opening 3/4 of the ground tbh if they think 20,000 are expected
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Robioto on April 25, 2017, 10:41:59 PM
t


Yep popped down to the box office, 5 unreserved tickets upper bullens, can see them opening 3/4 of the ground tbh if they think 20,000 are expected

It will be awesome if 20,000 go.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: blargins on April 25, 2017, 11:16:14 PM
.............can't remember when I last wrote a cheque , everything now is cards or bank transfers. Even my last car I bought with debit card. Times change. Still like to carry cash though.

I like cheques. I like seeing something. I prefer receiving them from my clients as I have no charges to pay.

Would never dream of buying a car on a debit card. Most dealerships would say no here because of the high transaction fees.

Cheques are very common still here.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on April 25, 2017, 11:19:03 PM
.............can't remember when I last wrote a cheque , everything now is cards or bank transfers. Even my last car I bought with debit card. Times change. Still like to carry cash though.

Can we move this from the U23 Thread to the O73 Thread for you and @blargins (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=54) please?     ;)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on April 25, 2017, 11:56:09 PM
t


Yep popped down to the box office, 5 unreserved tickets upper bullens, can see them opening 3/4 of the ground tbh if they think 20,000 are expected
..................I'm baffled why they started with the UB rather than the MS. I guess quite a few kopites will go ,you know ,all those disenfranchised locals who can't get tickets to Anfield.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Trowel on April 26, 2017, 12:32:31 AM
Not U-23 specific, but there was a great piece on the OS the other week about the Academy and how we bring youth through - the line about how we've expanded our scouting network caught my eye:

In the past two-and-a-half years, the national and international scouting network has expanded from nine scouts to 109 working across the UK and at all major international youth tournaments.

The goal, now achievable, is to scout every team of each of the 92 Football League clubs from Under-9 to Under-16 every season; effectively to know every single professional youth player in the country. 

 :clap:

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/04/18/cultivating-talent



Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: ajax_andy on April 26, 2017, 12:59:39 AM
Not U-23 specific, but there was a great piece on the OS the other week about the Academy and how we bring youth through - the line about how we've expanded our scouting network caught my eye:

In the past two-and-a-half years, the national and international scouting network has expanded from nine scouts to 109 working across the UK and at all major international youth tournaments.

The goal, now achievable, is to scout every team of each of the 92 Football League clubs from Under-9 to Under-16 every season; effectively to know every single professional youth player in the country. 

 :clap:

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/04/18/cultivating-talent





That's pretty amazing really... 109 scouts sounds a lot but you sell one John Stones and you've covered their wages 10 times over for a decade.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on April 26, 2017, 06:31:46 PM
Not U-23 specific, but there was a great piece on the OS the other week about the Academy and how we bring youth through - the line about how we've expanded our scouting network caught my eye:

In the past two-and-a-half years, the national and international scouting network has expanded from nine scouts to 109 working across the UK and at all major international youth tournaments.

The goal, now achievable, is to scout every team of each of the 92 Football League clubs from Under-9 to Under-16 every season; effectively to know every single professional youth player in the country. 

 :clap:

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/04/18/cultivating-talent






I can do that! Gizza job!

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42967000/jpg/_42967487_yosser_203.jpg)

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on April 26, 2017, 06:42:01 PM
Kind of like City do with scouting everywhere but they seem to throw obscene amounts of money at everyone, set them up in a private school, look after their parents and they still can't even get even one in their first team.

Mate of mine his kid has been offered a place at their academy with an offer to pay for his private education and all kinds of other incentives. It's tempting for my mate to recommend he take it as even if he doesn't make it, which is likely, he's had access to an education and experience he'd otherwise not have been able to get close to.
Title: The u23 thread
Post by: stirlingblue on April 28, 2017, 04:37:27 AM
they seem to throw obscene amounts of money at everyone

Isn't that what you have to do now? That's what Liverpool got in trouble for not doing.

If you want to offer one kid free school as a deal sweetener cos he looks the dogs bollocks then you've got to offer the same to every kid in your academy.

Great for the kids, and not like the football clubs can't afford it.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on April 28, 2017, 04:48:37 PM
Isn't that what you have to do now? That's what Liverpool got in trouble for not doing.

If you want to offer one kid free school as a deal sweetener cos he looks the dogs bollocks then you've got to offer the same to every kid in your academy.

Great for the kids, and not like the football clubs can't afford it.

Hasn't worked out too great for them so far, throwing money at every bit of talent they spot. City just hoover up every kid who stands out in the whole area and hope one of them turns out to be a star. Have done for the past decade. Nothing even makes the bench, barring Iheanacho, and even he's been sidelined now.

They're a strange club who are kind of lost in who they are and what they are trying to achieve.. They spend vast amounts on their academy and youth recruitment but then give their managers unlimited funds to buy a trophy. I know a few people on their coaching staff at that level and they're a bit disillusioned with what they're expected to achieve and where the continuity is from one level to the next.

Although we only just beat them to the U-23 title it looks like we're miles apart in the model we operate. Probably by necessity but still, at least kids can see the career progression.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toffee1 on April 28, 2017, 06:06:34 PM
Might be a bit similar to Trowel's article but a nice write up in the Mail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4453064/Everton-s-dream-academy-beat-big-spenders-23s-title-fans-dubbing-group-young-stars-Golden-Generation.html
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on April 28, 2017, 06:08:04 PM
Anybody going to the game next Monday?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bigmanbob on April 28, 2017, 06:20:21 PM
Yep
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on April 28, 2017, 08:36:13 PM
We shouldn't get too excited about seeing any of these players make the step up next season then...

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-boss-koeman-dampens-expectation-12959825
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on April 28, 2017, 08:38:18 PM
We shouldn't get too excited about seeing any of these players make the step up next season then...

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-boss-koeman-dampens-expectation-12959825

Watched the presser and he was pretty harsh about any of the youngsters chances
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on April 28, 2017, 08:42:04 PM
Watched the presser and he was pretty harsh about any of the youngsters chances

He's got a point though. We've already seen five kids step up to the first team this season, with varying success, and they'll all probably stay there for next season. To make the next jump to a top 4 challenge we need players who can make an impact and win games not just take part in games. That costs big money though. Over to you Steve. 
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on April 28, 2017, 08:52:07 PM
He said the same thing about Davies too at the start of the season. When they'll be ready, they'll hopefully be given a chance.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GLewis on April 28, 2017, 09:15:20 PM
He's got a point though. We've already seen five kids step up to the first team this season, with varying success, and they'll all probably stay there for next season. To make the next jump to a top 4 challenge we need players who can make an impact and win games not just take part in games. That costs big money though. Over to you Steve. 

Said this at the game on Sat.

We've got no guarantees as options on the bench in the attacking areas.

It's good for youngsters to play ahead of people like Kone or equivalents as they'd be wasted minutes but if we're going to make bigger strides more quickly we need players who you know are going to be able to produce.

In reality our front 3 has Lukaku as a natural and performing fit; Barkley who has found a niche on the right and improved his decision making and creative play at home but still doesn't score enough; and on the left has been a rotation of players who for varying reasons haven't been good enough often enough.

That's without the plan that we'd have 2/3 subs who theoretically should be challenging the 3 starting players for their places.

So then bear in mind that the youngsters in the u23 team are behind those who are in and around the first team.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GLewis on April 28, 2017, 09:16:33 PM
He said the same thing about Davies too at the start of the season. When they'll be ready, they'll hopefully be given a chance.

Yes.

Plus the end of the season (winning something or not) isn't some sort of qualifying milestone.

It doesn't mean that players now have to be ready or that's it.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on May 08, 2017, 09:30:14 PM
Don't forget this tonight lads, off to UB , what do you think the queue's will be like??, what time would get their??      live 20min away(walking)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: blue1948 on May 08, 2017, 09:42:21 PM
For all us castoffs is it on Everton tv ?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bluestevie on May 08, 2017, 10:16:20 PM
For all us castoffs is it on Everton tv ?


Yes for a £2.99 donation to Where The Home Is
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 08, 2017, 10:18:47 PM
England u20 squad

Apparently the players miss last two games

https://twitter.com/England/status/861536164741750784
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on May 08, 2017, 10:29:18 PM
Don't forget this tonight lads, off to UB , what do you think the queue's will be like??, what time would get their??      live 20min away(walking)
...................it's such a nice evening ,I reckon loads will go last minute ,including RS ,and it'll be chaos. KO 7pm but don't know if they presenting the trophy first .
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on May 08, 2017, 10:29:47 PM
We've got virtually a quarter of the whole England squad. Not bad.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on May 08, 2017, 11:04:46 PM
We've got virtually a quarter of the whole England squad. Not bad.

That's a lot of Toffee scapegoats for when we don't win the tourney.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on May 08, 2017, 11:27:54 PM
...................it's such a nice evening ,I reckon loads will go last minute ,including RS ,and it'll be chaos. KO 7pm but don't know if they presenting the trophy first .
Turnstiles open 6.15 , think we will leave @6pm
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on May 09, 2017, 12:28:40 AM
Gonna be some turnout this
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Everton Mint on May 09, 2017, 12:36:19 AM
Why is the website saying: 'Please note: Delayed coverage from 5.15pm in the UK' ?

Is it live or not ? Anyone in the UK watching ?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on May 09, 2017, 12:39:24 AM
Why is the website saying: 'Please note: Delayed coverage from 5.15pm in the UK' ?

Is it live or not ? Anyone in the UK watching ?

It's on here for a £4 donation to Home is Where the Heart is, which is a great cause.

http://preseason.evertonfc.com/live
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 09, 2017, 12:54:43 AM
who is buying this then?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Goaljira on May 09, 2017, 01:02:21 AM
England u20 squad

Apparently the players miss last two games

https://twitter.com/England/status/861536164741750784

Without Kenny, Lookman and DCL will we be able to fill the bench on friday?  Bit shit that Kenny doesnt get a chance to start.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: curro.uk on May 09, 2017, 01:02:38 AM
i have but no sound so far  :headbang: :headbang:
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 09, 2017, 01:03:36 AM
yeah i didnt wana buy it cos they always fuck it up...
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: curro.uk on May 09, 2017, 01:03:55 AM
sounds on now :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on May 09, 2017, 01:08:43 AM
Oh dear, that was poor from Pennington.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on May 09, 2017, 01:13:34 AM
Mistakes like that are probably why Pennington won't make it at us (if we aspire to be top 6).
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 09, 2017, 01:39:15 AM
Sportsmania lfc TV if you have it / want to watch it

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170508/7981f11b04c3ee2d58353379b39d104c.jpg)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: D15TIN on May 09, 2017, 01:41:39 AM
in work - how are we getting on? Dont even know the XI
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on May 09, 2017, 01:49:06 AM
Sportsmania lfc TV if you have it / want to watch it

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170508/7981f11b04c3ee2d58353379b39d104c.jpg)

I've got one of them dodgy boxes and it has LFC TV on it, but it's becoming unbearable listening to Neil Mellor and that other gobshite.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on May 09, 2017, 01:52:27 AM
I think Beni Baningime will be the next young player to be given a couple of minutes in the first team. I certainly expect him to travel to pre-season with the first team.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 09, 2017, 01:55:17 AM
I think Beni Baningime will be the next young player to be given a couple of minutes in the first team. I certainly expect him to travel to pre-season with the first team.
Unsworth has mentioned him a few times now
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on May 09, 2017, 01:56:44 AM
I think Beni Baningime will be the next young player to be given a couple of minutes in the first team. I certainly expect him to travel to pre-season with the first team.

The new Kante.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on May 09, 2017, 02:06:06 AM
As if they're on course to do the double over us despite Everton winning the league.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ross on May 09, 2017, 02:15:30 AM
Where's Liam Walsh?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 09, 2017, 02:15:59 AM
As if they're on course to do the double over us despite Everton winning the league.
It's literally in our dna
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on May 09, 2017, 02:19:26 AM
Getting tonked here and the LFC TV commentator is having a wank
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on May 09, 2017, 02:19:58 AM
Getting tonked here and the LFC TV commentator is having a wank

Wonder if they'll stick around for the presentation
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Everton Mint on May 09, 2017, 02:20:01 AM
Fucks sake.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 09, 2017, 02:20:35 AM
Two nil
Good goal
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on May 09, 2017, 02:20:43 AM
As if they're on course to do the double over us despite Everton winning the league.

Shows how good we are. Winning the league even when we give everybody a 6 point advantage (and 12 for them lot).
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: ally2 on May 09, 2017, 02:20:52 AM
Shite play from the left back there
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on May 09, 2017, 02:25:18 AM
 

Kenny is definitely ready to challenge for RB in the first team though.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bluedylan on May 09, 2017, 02:28:31 AM


Kenny is definitely ready to challenge for RB in the first team though.

Saves us a bit of money in the summer. Kenny and Holgate can cover Seamus' absence.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: ally2 on May 09, 2017, 02:32:58 AM
Just not dropping for us
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on May 09, 2017, 02:37:52 AM
Such a shit ball by Henan
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on May 09, 2017, 02:44:47 AM
Dyson. 1-2
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bluedylan on May 09, 2017, 02:45:04 AM
Is right lids. Still time.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on May 09, 2017, 02:45:28 AM
Beni and Kenny.

The rest of them unfortunately are well below their best.

But we got one back, and that's all that matters on the night :)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on May 09, 2017, 02:48:20 AM
Baningime And Kenny are a level above the rest by the looks of it.

Kenny in particular really is great
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on May 09, 2017, 02:54:41 AM
Baningime And Kenny are a level above the rest by the looks of it.

Kenny in particular really is great

Baningime is only 18 too.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on May 09, 2017, 02:57:02 AM
Poor Gethin Jones really isn't a left back.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: blue1948 on May 09, 2017, 03:05:36 AM
Worth the few bob to see the lads sadly not the result but the cup will do me
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: blue1948 on May 09, 2017, 03:11:38 AM
Sums the night up when the cameras are on the wrong side
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 09, 2017, 03:29:52 AM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/861679038468956160
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on May 09, 2017, 04:17:51 AM
Pitch invasions at an under 23's game though, lids in the park end throwing cans onto the pitch as well
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bally on May 09, 2017, 04:30:16 AM
Pitch invasions at an under 23's game though, lids in the park end throwing cans onto the pitch as well
Kopites from the paddock fucking jumped on as well the little cunts
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on May 09, 2017, 05:16:30 AM
The ket wig invasion was daft, little gobshites aren't they.

I was sat MS in line with the park end and didn't see any cans. Saw a tropical luco hit the pitch after our goal like but that was thrown from the MS.

From our side Beni and Kenny looked good, the rest looked like kids. Even Besic.

They also didn't look particularly good. Gruijic looked like the only grown up on the pitch, and their n.9 was a pacey trouble. Most uneasy I've seen Feeney and Pennington tbh, both looked a bit jarg on the ball, barring one good pass from Feeney in the second half.

Oh and I liked Sambou, ran his bollocks off and looked like he had a little bit on the ball but he never really got a chance. Dyson put himself about abit but looked a bit like a knucklehead if you know what I mean.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on May 09, 2017, 05:30:40 AM
We missed Liam Walsh tonight , pretty much this ^ , apart from Kenny deserves a run out- now in these last 2 games , oh and I for got  the ref was shite
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bluebridge on May 09, 2017, 02:00:53 PM
The pitch invasion was one of the funniest things I've seen for a long time, as for the players on display, Kenny really stood out, plays very similar to Coleman.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bally on May 09, 2017, 03:01:25 PM
The pitch invasion was one of the funniest things I've seen for a long time, as for the players on display, Kenny really stood out, plays very similar to Coleman.
The pitch invasion really fucking pissed me off, the club do something nice, the free entry was a lovely touch, then little fucking knobheads try and spoil it so they can go into school tomorrow with the YouTube video they recorded on their fucking phones, if that was one of mine I'd have slapped the fucking spit out of them.
My daughter knew pretty much every one if the little cunts that went on from the lower Bullens, I fucking hate it.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on May 09, 2017, 03:16:30 PM
The pitch invasion really fucking pissed me off, the club do something nice, the free entry was a lovely touch, then little fucking knobheads try and spoil it so they can go into school tomorrow with the YouTube video they recorded on their fucking phones, if that was one of mine I'd have slapped the fucking spit out of them.
My daughter knew pretty much every one if the little cunts that went on from the lower Bullens, I fucking hate it.

Quite a few of them got grabbed by angry fans when they ran into the park end and were lashed out
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on May 09, 2017, 05:33:50 PM
I was in the park end and didn't see anyone thrown cans on the pitch or fans grabbing the ketwigs.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on May 09, 2017, 05:35:27 PM
I was in the park end and didn't see anyone thrown cans on the pitch or fans grabbing the ketwigs.

Quite a few of them were sat close to me, main stand side
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 01, 2017, 03:51:18 PM
Signed this lad and some Swedish kid too
Allegedly

Everton are interested in signing Boris Mathis, very interested if LíEquipe are to be believed.

The French newspaper, in their Saturday edition, say Everton are the Ďmost seriousí option for Mathis right now. LíEquipe go as far as saying the Metz player Ďcould leave Lorraine very soon and sign a first professional contract with a Premier League club.í

Le Republicain Lorraine (http://www.republicain-lorrain.fr/sports/2017/06/30/football-le-jeune-attaquant-du-fc-metz-boris-mathis-s-engage-avec-everton), a local media outlet, say Mathis has already signed a two year contract with Everton, but they base that on a tweet from their journalist Jean-Sťb Gallois, since deleted.

Gallois later sent out another tweet (https://twitter.com/RLgallois/status/880828511736528896), without the 2 year timeframe, saying Mathis has agreed to join Everton.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDorrZ2XYAA09dd?format=jpg)

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Goaljira on July 01, 2017, 04:04:35 PM
Someone take him into town and buy him some trainers!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 01, 2017, 04:16:30 PM
https://twitter.com/nedretvedt/status/880897814531899393

Norwegian, Swedish.... It's all the same
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Confucius on July 01, 2017, 04:18:55 PM
Someone take him into town and buy him some trainers!

And some socks
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Nicco on July 01, 2017, 04:20:25 PM
https://twitter.com/nedretvedt/status/880897814531899393

Norwegian, Swedish.... It's all the same
Was ready to write something but ah well...

Over to Trevor Stevens then
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 01, 2017, 06:56:48 PM
Seems we're very serious about the U23s. I love it.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: di_guyo on July 01, 2017, 07:04:24 PM
Seems we're very serious about the U23s. I love it.

Every reason to be. So unpredictable at that age that one of these players not labelled wonderkids could actually be the one to kick on. Look at Michael Keane. Worst case scenario they never make it to the first team, but they help the rest of the lads win U23s, so that when they come up they're winners and they're confident in their abilities. I really like this initiative.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on July 02, 2017, 03:51:40 AM
Anton Donkor signing tomorrow apparently.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 02, 2017, 03:56:55 AM
Anton Donkor signing tomorrow apparently.

At the Hilton (?). In his IG story http://instagram.com/anton_donkor
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Goaljira on July 02, 2017, 04:23:49 AM
Anton Donkor signing tomorrow apparently.

The lad we had on loan who got injured right away?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: sam of the south on July 02, 2017, 04:27:06 AM
The lad we had on loan who got injured right away?

Yeah, that's the one, German forward
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on July 02, 2017, 04:28:47 AM
The lad we had on loan who got injured right away?

That's him. Got some good reviews here and we're obviously keen to see abit more of him.

Maybe a big day Monday with a load of U23's and a few first teamers.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on July 02, 2017, 02:12:17 PM
That's him. Got some good reviews here and we're obviously keen to see abit more of him.

Maybe a big day Monday with a load of U23's and a few first teamers.



Can't wait till tomorrow!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Hesmenos on July 02, 2017, 02:36:18 PM
https://twitter.com/nedretvedt/status/880897814531899393

Norwegian, Swedish.... It's all the same
Isn't this the 15 year old kid? I imagine he won't be going into the U23s team.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 05, 2017, 09:18:57 PM
Mathis has had a makeover and signed a 2yr deal

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/07/05/blues-sign-mathis
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lincs Toffee on July 05, 2017, 10:03:05 PM
Someone take him into town and buy him some trainers!
And some trousers the right length....or am I now showing my age ?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Goaljira on July 06, 2017, 09:06:41 PM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/882962373920735232

Made up with this.  2 years too, not just the 1 like the kids the other day.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: pjk on July 06, 2017, 09:08:21 PM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/882962373920735232

Made up with this.  2 years too, not just the 1 like the kids the other day.



Thought I'd leave it to you in case I screwed it up again. :)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on July 06, 2017, 09:16:30 PM
Maybe he's higher regarded internally than we imagined. Might be the back up to Baines we've been discussing.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on July 07, 2017, 05:54:23 AM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/882962373920735232

Made up with this.  2 years too, not just the 1 like the kids the other day.

Looks very good this lad. Think he's younger than most at his group as well?

Looking forward to seeing how he develops.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 07, 2017, 05:56:03 AM
Two year deal is an encouraging sign.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lazarou on July 07, 2017, 08:12:29 PM
 Anton Donkor has returned to #EFC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/EFC?src=hash) for a second loan spell from @VfL_Wolfsburg (https://twitter.com/VfL_Wolfsburg) until 2 January.

👉🏼 https://t.co/ZVQPaXon8V (https://t.co/ZVQPaXon8V) pic.twitter.com/ISAG7dCNFY (https://t.co/ISAG7dCNFY)</p>&mdash; Everton (@Everton) July 7, 2017 (https://twitter.com/Everton/status/883310357556731904)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 08, 2017, 06:26:45 AM
Who could break through in '17 - '18.

Despite our lads performances this summer none of them made the cut.

http://www.skysports.com/share/10936111
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on July 08, 2017, 06:47:05 AM
Who could break through in '17 - '18.

Despite our lads performances this summer none of them made the cut.

http://www.skysports.com/share/10936111


Fucking tits aren't they.

Win the U23 prem and have 5 in the World Cup winning team and don't get a mention.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 08, 2017, 02:01:21 PM
Fucking tits aren't they.

Win the U23 prem and have 5 in the World Cup winning team and don't get a mention.

It's very strange. I think you'd have to actively avoid young blues in order to leave them out of this type of thing. I mean, were top of the youth pile at the moment in many ways. So how on earth could none of the lads feature?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 09, 2017, 02:40:58 PM
https://twitter.com/ALANMYERSMEDIA/status/883454096421908484

Tickled me this
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Escla on July 09, 2017, 02:47:47 PM
Fucking tits aren't they.

Win the U23 prem and have 5 in the World Cup winning team and don't get a mention.

That really does take the fucking biscuit !
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on July 09, 2017, 02:58:08 PM
Gotta be Beni Baningime
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: dazfrancis on July 16, 2017, 04:25:12 AM
God help us on this forum when these guys graduate to the first team with surnames like this

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEx-OcbXkAAsi_9.jpg)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 16, 2017, 04:28:47 AM
Garbutt there.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on July 16, 2017, 04:31:58 AM
"Sambon"

Has Baxter joined up with us yet?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: ally2 on July 19, 2017, 05:53:31 AM
Some nice finishes in here

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueBeagle on July 19, 2017, 12:19:02 PM
"Sambon"

Has Baxter joined up with us yet?

Forgot all about that
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bigmanbob on July 19, 2017, 03:29:15 PM
Fucking tits aren't they.

Win the U23 prem and have 5 in the World Cup winning team and don't get a mention.
That Chilwell looked excellent in the World Cup
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: stirlingblue on July 19, 2017, 03:30:00 PM
That Chilwell looked excellent in the World Cup

He looked excellent against us last year too, would be a great successor to Baines
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on July 19, 2017, 07:36:53 PM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/887651710709227520
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jamokachi on July 19, 2017, 07:39:19 PM
Good move for the lad
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GLewis on July 19, 2017, 07:40:02 PM
Good move for him; whether that's to prove he can cut it here or for establishing himself at Championship level time will tell.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 19, 2017, 07:45:24 PM
Not sure if he'll fit in at Leeds. Doesn't strike me as the sort of player to go round kicking lumps out of the opposition....
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on July 19, 2017, 07:47:56 PM
Leeds would be an ideal club to go out on loan to as they are genuinely a big club and any young player would get exposure to playing in front of decent sized crowds every week. As long as the managerial situation calms down it'll be good for the lad.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on July 19, 2017, 07:49:27 PM
Good move for him, hopefully will help him kick on and improve his game
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on July 19, 2017, 08:02:45 PM
That's his level if he's lucky imo.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 20, 2017, 02:41:17 PM
Geordies are fuming about this young left back we are taking from them. Looks like they expected him to break into the first team this season.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on July 20, 2017, 02:43:04 PM
Anyone know anything about this young lad from Newcastle? Any statto's out there and not just Football Manager addicts.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Thornton_19 on July 20, 2017, 02:49:09 PM
Geordies are fuming about this young left back we are taking from them. Looks like they expected him to break into the first team this season.
Maybe this is our back up/Baines' long term replacement.

Or we are doing what Chelsea and City do and stockpiling players to sell at a later date.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on July 20, 2017, 03:00:14 PM
Maybe this is our back up/Baines' long term replacement.

Or we are doing what Chelsea and City do and stockpiling players to sell at a later date.

A bit of both probably. If one doesn't work they're an income stream to buy someone who does.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 20, 2017, 03:02:47 PM
Geordies are fuming about this young left back we are taking from them. Looks like they expected him to break into the first team this season.

I would love it, love it if we signed him.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Juanito on July 20, 2017, 03:07:47 PM
In the Star but looks like we picked up another young, highly talented player for the youth team.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/631143/Joshua-Zirkzee-Everton-Arsenal-Manchester-United-transfer-news
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on July 20, 2017, 03:10:23 PM
"Zirkzee scored 33 goals in 27 games last term and has attracted the attention of some of the Premier League's biggest clubs."

At any level, that's a bit good like.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bigmanbob on July 20, 2017, 06:49:24 PM
Joe Williams has gone to Barnsley on a season long loan
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on July 20, 2017, 07:37:54 PM
Joe Williams has gone to Barnsley on a season long loan
...................so that's Pennington ,Browning ,Galloway and Williams gone out on loan ,plus Henry and any others I've forgotten.  We're turning into Chelsea !
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on July 20, 2017, 07:50:22 PM
Rumours liam walsh is heading out on loan as well, I rate him so will be good to see how he gets on.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on July 20, 2017, 07:56:20 PM
...................so that's Pennington ,Browning ,Galloway and Williams gone out on loan ,plus Henry and any others I've forgotten.  We're turning into Chelsea !

Well they've made about £130m in sales since January so it's clearly a model that works. Although I'd like to think we'd be doing this with a view to a proportion of them actually making it with us and saving us a fortune like.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Thornton_19 on July 20, 2017, 09:30:31 PM
...................so that's Pennington ,Browning ,Galloway and Williams gone out on loan ,plus Henry and any others I've forgotten.  We're turning into Chelsea !
Fucking hope so 5 league titles 4 Fa Cups and a European Cup in 15 years. I'd love that.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bigmanbob on July 20, 2017, 09:58:31 PM
It's an interesting approach though which seems to be premeditated.

Last years U23 league winners, those good enough, move them into the senior squad, for those not quite there, loan them out and spend a not inconsiderable amount replacing them. It makes an already enviable youth set up even stronger

It's amazing what you can do when you're minted
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 20, 2017, 10:29:41 PM
It's an interesting approach though which seems to be premeditated.

Last years U23 league winners, those good enough, move them into the senior squad, for those not quite there, loan them out and spend a not inconsiderable amount replacing them. It makes an already enviable youth set up even stronger

It's amazing what you can do when you're minted

I don't even think it's about being rich. It's about having plans in place. We seem to have a clear vision on every part of the club now. Moshiri has been brilliant in terms of making us a truly professional outfit
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 20, 2017, 11:56:54 PM
Who's the guy that usually runs the players on loan thread.

Something tells me it could be a nice tasty thread this season.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lazarou on July 27, 2017, 05:15:40 PM
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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jamokachi on July 27, 2017, 05:35:53 PM
Good to see that wrapped up, been talked about for some weeks now.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on July 27, 2017, 05:47:10 PM
What happened to that lad we signed similar time as holgate? All went very quiet there didn't it.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on July 27, 2017, 10:50:20 PM
That must be Matty Foulds from Bury - left footed centre back

Problem solved!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on July 28, 2017, 12:54:32 AM
That must be Matty Foulds from Bury - left footed centre back

Problem solved!

Mates dad is a season ticket holder at Bury and even he wondered why Everton were buying him. He wasn't anything special at that level so God knows what Reeves and Martinez saw in him.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on August 06, 2017, 03:12:48 AM
won 2-0 v Bangor City,    Sambou and a Pen from Garbutt, so his is still here then
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bob Sacamano on August 06, 2017, 03:16:05 AM
I reckon that geordie lad has a better chance than garbutt of getting the first team squad.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on August 06, 2017, 03:27:20 AM
Any news on Jose Baxter? Is he with the squad? Has he played any minutes
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 06, 2017, 03:37:28 AM
Any news on Jose Baxter? Is he with the squad? Has he played any minutes

Apparently he just sits on a stool near Unsy everyday, whenever one of the younger lads fuck up or show a little bit of disobedience Unsy stands up, points at Baxter and says to the young lad "do you want to end up like him", it soon refocuses them.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Cassius on September 02, 2017, 02:20:30 AM
Can't see anything on here about this, which may have been swallowed up by the excitement and success of deadline day, so forgive me if I'm repeating this.

We've signed a lad called Dennis - not that Dennis, sorry @Toddacelli (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2432) - but an 18 year old from Fulham for £4m.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/11015694/everton-sign-teenager-dennis-adeniran-from-fulham (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/11015694/everton-sign-teenager-dennis-adeniran-from-fulham)

Quote
Everton have signed Fulham's England U18 international midfielder Dennis Adeniran on a four-year deal.

The 18-year-old heads to Goodison Park on a deal until the summer of 2021 after making five senior appearances for the Sky Bet Championship club.

Including add-ons, Adeniran could end up costing Everton a fee of £4m, Sky Sports News understands.

Adeniran scored on his professional debut in an EFL Cup match at Leyton Orient 12 months ago, and he played two more games in that competition as well as one league outing and a single appearance in the FA Cup.

He played for England at the European U17 Championships in 2016, when the Young Lions reached the quarter-finals.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on September 02, 2017, 02:31:32 AM
Can't see anything on here about this, which may have been swallowed up by the excitement and success of deadline day, so forgive me if I'm repeating this.

We've signed a lad called Dennis - not that Dennis, sorry @Toddacelli (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2432) - but an 18 year old from Fulham for £4m.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/11015694/everton-sign-teenager-dennis-adeniran-from-fulham (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/11015694/everton-sign-teenager-dennis-adeniran-from-fulham)


Fulham fans react on Twitter:

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/09/01/absolutely-gutted-fulham-fans-react-on-twitter-to-dennis-adenira/
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on September 02, 2017, 03:39:57 AM
Looks like we're very focused on large transfer fees hopefully being a thing of the past and growing our own in the next few years. We've spent a fortune on the U-23's and have a full sides worth out on loan. Unless we're going down the Chelsea route of human trafficking.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 02, 2017, 04:48:26 AM
i cant wait for all these youth signings to burst into the team, whenever that maybe.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: blue slug on September 02, 2017, 05:58:26 AM
The problem is there's to much pressure on managers for instant success to a degree so I just can't see the point in spending 5m or so here and there on players to loan out
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MrWhite on September 03, 2017, 05:52:57 AM
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/evertons-conor-grant-taken-hospital-13564469

Conor Grant taken to hospital after being knocked out in a collision playing for Crewe.. Can't find any updates on his condition, hope he's ok.  :(
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on September 03, 2017, 05:55:15 AM
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/evertons-conor-grant-taken-hospital-13564469

Conor Grant taken to hospital after being knocked out in a collision playing for Crewe.. Can't find any updates on his condition, hope he's ok.  :(

Fortunately nothing serious.

https://twitter.com/crewealexfc/status/904055748132560897
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on September 05, 2017, 02:41:01 PM
Don't forget our Henry over at Anderlect - it was "his destiny" to join us!

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/turned-down-celtic-move-transfer-11103771

He is looking forward to helping knock Brendan Rodgers out of the CL in a couple of weeks, when they meet. We will have to keep our eye on that if anyone is interested in seeing him play, if he gets a start. We are going to have some squad in a year or two with all these excellent kids.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on September 05, 2017, 03:05:24 PM
Don't forget our Henry over at Anderlect - it was "his destiny" to join us!

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/turned-down-celtic-move-transfer-11103771

He is looking forward to helping knock Brendan Rodgers out of the CL in a couple of weeks, when they meet. We will have to keep our eye on that if anyone is interested in seeing him play, if he gets a start. We are going to have some squad in a year or two with all these excellent kids.

Be good if he can score any goal for the soon then.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Hawkandro on September 05, 2017, 06:47:23 PM
Does anyone know what happened with Zirkzee in the end?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on September 05, 2017, 07:40:12 PM
Does anyone know what happened with Zirkzee in the end?

Went to someone fancy, Bayern maybe.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 08, 2017, 04:54:40 PM

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bob Sacamano on September 08, 2017, 09:19:54 PM
Who was that #16 at the end of the second vid?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on September 09, 2017, 12:17:43 AM
Pitch 'em against Sunderland
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 09, 2017, 12:43:59 AM
Who was that #16 at the end of the second vid?


http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/08/29/highlights-chelsea-0-3-under-23s


lol i also been through the under 21 squad.. the only player who looks like the 16 (only saw him run from behind when he took the shot) is  Boris Mathis. but i have no idea really.

http://www.evertonfc.com/teams/under-23s?page=2

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on September 09, 2017, 01:40:36 AM
Who was that #16 at the end of the second vid?

Looked good didn't he. I thought maybe henen?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bob Sacamano on September 09, 2017, 02:18:09 AM

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/08/29/highlights-chelsea-0-3-under-23s


lol i also been through the under 21 squad.. the only player who looks like the 16 (only saw him run from behind when he took the shot) is  Boris Mathis. but i have no idea really.

http://www.evertonfc.com/teams/under-23s?page=2



He back from injury? I've heard he's a top prospect.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bob Sacamano on September 09, 2017, 02:18:39 AM
Looked good didn't he. I thought maybe henen?

Seemed to have that bit extra didn't he.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 09, 2017, 07:42:15 AM
Looked good didn't he. I thought maybe henen?

Henen ain't white, and is too often shite lolol
(To clarify, by shite I mean inconsistent and he's been playing at U21/U23 level for ages already, plus an unsuccessful loan to League One. The Echo think we tried to sell him in January.)

Number 16 was Nathan Broadhead, @Everton Mint (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3381) was backing him in the "U23 for Europa" thread, perhaps he'll be the next Davies that goes from not being good enough to loan out to getting his head down to make a surprise emergence from the U23's!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on September 09, 2017, 04:44:27 PM
Henen ain't white, and is too often shite lolol
(To clarify, by shite I mean inconsistent and he's been playing at U21/U23 level for ages already, plus an unsuccessful loan to League One. The Echo think we tried to sell him in January.)

Number 16 was Nathan Broadhead, @Everton Mint (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3381) was backing him in the "U23 for Europa" thread, perhaps he'll be the next Davies that goes from not being good enough to loan out to getting his head down to make a surprise emergence from the U23's!

Good shout
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 10, 2017, 06:58:58 PM
We kick off, at Goodsion, also against spuds, in five minutes. A few first-team players involved...

Supposedly you have to be a paid member of Everton in some capacity to watch it!

Robles
Kenny, Feeney, Gibson, Foulds
Baningme, Charsley
Jones, Adeniran, Lookman
Niasse
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 10, 2017, 07:12:23 PM
Niasse scores from a Kenny cross.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 10, 2017, 08:22:46 PM
No one watching then? Apparently there have been two more goals, 'stunning' strike from Lookman to restore our lead after they equalised.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Polledreng on September 10, 2017, 08:25:12 PM
Pity Niasse isn't in the EURO squad... would have liked him linking up with Lookman
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Polledreng on September 10, 2017, 08:28:40 PM
And then he scores again....
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on September 10, 2017, 08:29:19 PM
I now support the under 23s instead of the proper team.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Trowel on September 10, 2017, 08:29:51 PM
No one watching then? Apparently there have been two more goals, 'stunning' strike from Lookman to restore our lead after they equalised.
https://twitter.com/UpperGwladysBlu/status/906872118415171584
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 10, 2017, 08:31:45 PM
David Henen making me eat my words about him, assist and goal partnership both ways around with Niasse :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on September 10, 2017, 08:33:32 PM
our u23 would beat the 1st team 

so 4-1 ten min to go
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 10, 2017, 09:26:49 PM
not sure what the point is of this, but under 23 related.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on September 10, 2017, 09:29:59 PM
Is there any point in Robles playing in this team?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ravardo on September 11, 2017, 12:02:29 AM
The under 23;s beat spurs today 4-1....2 for naisse and a assist 1 for lookman and 1 for henan and a assist jonjoe kenny...naisse apparently bossed it
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 11, 2017, 01:26:40 AM
I've said it before but kinda tongue-in-cheek - Kenny must look dreadful in training or have some fundamental flaw that means he isn't starting games. Anyone seen much of him and can shed some light?

Some have said Koeman is sticking with Martina as an ego thing: I've brought him to the club, I'm going to stick by him. But surely you wouldn't stick by a shit player when it could ultimately cost your team games/points?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 11, 2017, 01:44:44 AM
I've said it before but kinda tongue-in-cheek - Kenny must look dreadful in training or have some fundamental flaw that means he isn't starting games. Anyone seen much of him and can shed some light?

Some have said Koeman is sticking with Martina as an ego thing: I've brought him to the club, I'm going to stick by him. But surely you wouldn't stick by a shit player when it could ultimately cost your team games/points?

When Koeman left Saints, Martina didnt feature under the new manager all season lol, i think that says enough about him (Martina)

From what i've seen from Kenny, albeit under 23s and the england under 21 world cup winning team,. he is a replica of Coleman.

I dont get it, Holgate, Kenny, and then we buy Martina.. i know it was a freebie,. but still.. must have knocked Kenny back a bit.

Koeman claims to give youth chance, but i think he's just as stubborn as Moyes.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 11, 2017, 03:01:24 AM
When Koeman left Saints, Martina didnt feature under the new manager all season lol, i think that says enough about him (Martina)

From what i've seen from Kenny, albeit under 23s and the england under 21 world cup winning team,. he is a replica of Coleman.

I dont get it, Holgate, Kenny, and then we buy Martina.. i know it was a freebie,. but still.. must have knocked Kenny back a bit.

Koeman claims to give youth chance, but i think he's just as stubborn as Moyes.

100% agreed, I hope the latter line isn't true and it's something we don't get to see making up Koeman's mind about (not) playing him.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on September 11, 2017, 03:14:28 AM
I've said it before but kinda tongue-in-cheek - Kenny must look dreadful in training or have some fundamental flaw that means he isn't starting games. Anyone seen much of him and can shed some light?

Some have said Koeman is sticking with Martina as an ego thing: I've brought him to the club, I'm going to stick by him. But surely you wouldn't stick by a shit player when it could ultimately cost your team games/points?

As well as Koeman has done with the youth, he does seem a bit reluctant to give them a chance initially.

If it weren't for injuries then Tom Cleverley would still be around and Tom Davies out on loan.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: stirlingblue on September 11, 2017, 01:39:59 PM
But surely you wouldn't stick by a shit player when it could ultimately cost your team games/points?

*cough* Williams *cough*
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 11, 2017, 07:48:15 PM
All the goals on this page, perhaps one of you knows how to re-link the videos in this article directly into a post?

https://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2017/9/10/16283388/everton-under-23s-tottenham-4-1-match-recap-highlights-watch-goals


gizzblue has the much better official highlights linked below.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 11, 2017, 08:27:44 PM
Niasse doesnt seem like the same raw talent we originally signed.

he looks composed, aware of whats going on around him, i know it was the reserve league, but he's offered more in that highlights package (and the chelsea highlights) to be ahead of Sandro for me.,. which is fucking unbelievable.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: hill135 on September 11, 2017, 08:48:42 PM
Niasse doesnt seem like the same raw talent we originally signed.

he looks composed, aware of whats going on around him, i know it was the reserve league, but he's offered more in that highlights package (and the chelsea highlights) to be ahead of Sandro for me.,. which is fucking unbelievable.

It's under 23s football!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: gizzblue on September 11, 2017, 09:10:45 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jllg3kHtULs

Quality from Niasse
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 11, 2017, 09:17:12 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jllg3kHtULs

Quality from Niasse

That's more like it! So they took 24 hours to slap the official highlights up...
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 11, 2017, 09:20:37 PM
It's under 23s football!

So his good control, passing and finishing can't translate? I'd agree his movement might not look so hot against better defenders, I bet you posted that without watching the goals!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 11, 2017, 09:55:26 PM

posted with out the hyperlink


awesome cross by kenny, plus the ball down the line to Henen for the third goal, what does he have to do to get a look in??
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: themilkycoffees on September 11, 2017, 10:02:31 PM
If Niasse was an academy product, we'd all be crying out for him to be starting in the first team. He can't be any worse than what we've seen so far....can he?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 11, 2017, 10:07:08 PM
If Niasse was an academy product, we'd all be crying out for him to be starting in the first team. He can't be any worse than what we've seen so far....can he?

I don't want him getting thrown in against Utd but I hope he's at least on the bench for the EFL cup tie. I think it's more likely Koeman will see that fixture as a chance to build the confidence of his preferred players though. It just seems he's earnt a shot at some senior game-time against somebody or other.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 11, 2017, 10:10:34 PM
I don't want him getting thrown in against Utd but I hope he's at least on the bench for the EFL cup tie. I think it's more likely Koeman will see that fixture as a chance to build the confidence of his preferred players though. It just seems he's earnt a shot at some senior game-time against somebody or other.

i would throw him in against united.. play DCL up top with NIASSETY, give Man U something different to think about, 2 strikers who want to stretch the pitch, then we can play 3-5-2 and pack out midfield/defense. least we will have 2 players with decent pace who want to get in behind.. i'd drop Rooney, Sig will have to runners/strikers to aim for..

worth a shot in my view.. i bet with that strikeforce we have more than the average of 1.75 shots on target a match.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 11, 2017, 10:16:32 PM
i would throw him in against united.. play DCL up top with NIASSETY, give Man U something different to think about, 2 strikers who want to stretch the pitch, then we can play 3-5-2 and pack out midfield/defense. least we will have 2 players with decent pace who want to get in behind.. i'd drop Rooney, Sig will have to runners/strikers to aim for..

worth a shot in my view.. i bet with that strikeforce we have more than the average of 1.75 shots on target a match.

Never going to happen though, is it? It would mean dropping Rooney and Klaassen, and only one of DCL or Sandro could start with Oumar.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 11, 2017, 10:21:46 PM
Never going to happen though, is it? It would mean dropping Rooney and Klaassen, and only one of DCL or Sandro could start with Oumar.

id drop rooney/sandro and klaassen for the man utd match and play alll 3 of them behind DCL v Atlanta lol.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on September 11, 2017, 10:25:53 PM
Isn't he excluded from EL squad?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 11, 2017, 10:28:44 PM
Isn't he excluded from EL squad?

I nearly had that reaction then realised what SANA says makes sense, Sandro/Rooney/Klaassen behind DCL for the Europa, for Utd he'd play Niasse with one of Rooney/Sandro and have Sigurdsson behind them!

Never going to happen nor should it of course!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on September 11, 2017, 10:52:13 PM
For a minute there I thought I read that people wanted to see Niasse thrown in to play away at Old Trafford.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on September 11, 2017, 10:55:18 PM
For a minute there I thought I read that people wanted to see Niasse thrown in to play away at Old Trafford.

Call me mad but I'd have him on the bench instead of Mirallas.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 11, 2017, 10:57:57 PM
For a minute there I thought I read that people wanted to see Niasse thrown in to play away at Old Trafford.

lol thats what i said dcl up top with big niassety

I nearly had that reaction then realised what SANA says makes sense, Sandro/Rooney/Klaassen behind DCL for the Europa, for Utd he'd play Niasse with one of Rooney/Sandro and have Sigurdsson behind them!

Never going to happen nor should it of course!

close, for united id play dcl and niasse up top with Siggy behind them gana and Schneiderlin in midfield, 2 wing backs, 3 cbs.
 
hopefully that way, we may get some rest bite for our defense, with big niasste and dcl making runs in behind.. we could even play Martina,, as he gets crossed into the box!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 14, 2017, 06:22:46 AM
back on topic :)

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 16, 2017, 10:46:08 PM
under 23 related :p

noticed a new channel on sky (i dont subscribe (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;area=subscriptions) to any of the channels) its 424 FREESPORTS, it has live La Liga on it and has live matches from the Belgian Jupiler league... tomorrow morning they're showing Kortrik V Anderlecht. I expect Onyekuru to score a hat-trick! (think the match is played today tho, recorded match tomorrow) but last week they showed 3 live games from the Jupiler league

FreeSports launches in UK - these are the football matches it will show
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/freesports-launches-uk-football-matches-13549972
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on September 17, 2017, 02:45:36 AM
under 23 related :p

noticed a new channel on sky (i dont subscribe (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;area=subscriptions) to any of the channels) its 424 FREESPORTS, it has live La Liga on it and has live matches from the Belgian Jupiler league... tomorrow morning they're showing Kortrik V Anderlecht. I expect Onyekuru to score a hat-trick! (think the match is played today tho, recorded match tomorrow) but last week they showed 3 live games from the Jupiler league

FreeSports launches in UK - these are the football matches it will show
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/freesports-launches-uk-football-matches-13549972

Onyekuru came on in the 63rd minute and scored the equalizer in the 76th minute...he rescued a point for them in a 2-2 draw. Also booked.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 18, 2017, 08:27:49 PM
Anderlecht manager been sacked wonder if that will affect onyerkru?

Also, Gone a bit quiet on the dowell front, anyone know how he is doing?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 18, 2017, 08:38:01 PM
All I can say is that all of the Championship loanee's are getting plenty of minutes except Pennington who mut still be injured. I think Dowell might be getting a bit more respect from the opposition now because he was the first substituted on the hour mark of Forest's last match, I haven't seen highlights of their last few though.

Browning was dropped after being the main culprit of Sunderland losing last Tuesday, it was a bit like Keane to Schneiderlin, if the receiving player had been a bit more alert the misplaced place would have still been recovered but alas he played the opposition winger in, seconds later it's a  goal conceded.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Hesmenos on September 18, 2017, 09:38:51 PM
Galloway hasn't even made the bench in the last few matches. Is he injured or is his loan spell going tits up again?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 18, 2017, 09:56:55 PM
we're playing tonight.. anyone know if its on any channels? do the under 23 games be on the Everton fc webpage? how much is it to watch them on there?

rather watch the under23s than the first team atm.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Martip on September 18, 2017, 09:57:58 PM
Galloway hasn't even made the bench in the last few matches. Is he injured or is his loan spell going tits up again?
My Sunderland supporting pal said he s been dreadful
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 18, 2017, 09:59:00 PM
Galloway hasn't even made the bench in the last few matches. Is he injured or is his loan spell going tits up again?
Its mad to think that people were saying he was better than Baines 2 years ago
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 18, 2017, 10:50:19 PM
lol you can watch Spurs v Swans on     Sportklub 3 Slovenia

but no everton ;/

just sorted it.. joined the Derby FC site, free streaming of under 23 games.

https://www.dcfc.co.uk/fixtures/results/2017/09/18/u23-v-everton#live-video

you have to register, then its free :)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 18, 2017, 11:18:42 PM
I won't be able to watch it due to the working week but great determination to provide for the Toffee masses @SANA_DR0 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6573) !

p.s. Galloway is almost certainly injured because Donald Love and Adam Matthews are truly diabolical, not to mention Brendan is the only left-sided cover.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 19, 2017, 12:09:41 AM
haha thanks Marky Mark,

I guess if Kenny plays tonight he doesn't play on Wednesday night..
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 19, 2017, 12:12:27 AM
Kenny isn't playing I don't think?

Edit: not even on the bench, must be starting Wednesday.

https://twitter.com/Everton/status/909824356687028224
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 19, 2017, 12:14:26 AM
haha thanks Marky Mark,

I guess if Kenny plays tonight he doesn't play on Wednesday night..

Good call! Damn I've got work in 4 hours but I'm tempted to stay awake long enough to see the line-up haha

Nevermind, cheers @Duncs_a_legend (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=598) , that confirms it!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 19, 2017, 12:17:42 AM
Kenny isn't playing I don't think?

Edit: not even on the bench, must be starting Wednesday.

https://twitter.com/Everton/status/909824356687028224


Awesome, cheers Dunc you legend!

I guess that means Koemans been on NSNO and knows we want to see the king Niasse and King Kenny :S on wednesday!!

even more excited about tonight now!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 19, 2017, 12:22:30 AM

Awesome, cheers Dunc you legend!

I guess that means Koemans been on NSNO and knows we want to see the king Niasse and King Kenny :S on wednesday!!

even more excited about tonight now!

F'kin 'ell I'd forgotten about Jar-Jar Oumar :D
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lincs Toffee on September 19, 2017, 01:35:06 AM
1-0 up Charsley
Nice to watch an attacking Everton
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 19, 2017, 01:48:19 AM
Charsley charges down Wassallís headed clearance in the box and slots past Mitchell from a tight angle.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 19, 2017, 02:29:52 AM
our under 23 team defends better than our main team..

conditions are terrible tho


under 18 goal V West Brom

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on September 19, 2017, 02:56:44 AM
lol you can watch Spurs v Swans on     Sportklub 3 Slovenia

but no everton ;/

just sorted it.. joined the Derby FC site, free streaming of under 23 games.

https://www.dcfc.co.uk/fixtures/results/2017/09/18/u23-v-everton#live-video

you have to register, then its free :)

Nice one lid.

Only half watched it as I was playing PES then eating a chippy and watching Corrie, but stand out player for me was Anthony Evans.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on September 19, 2017, 03:01:18 AM
Kenny isn't playing I don't think?

Edit: not even on the bench, must be starting Wednesday.

https://twitter.com/Everton/status/909824356687028224

I've noticed the young French lad Mathis seems to be training with the first team and isn't in the squad there.

Oh and no niasse there either :)

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on September 19, 2017, 03:01:49 AM
Did anyone get snap those Harry Potter tickets up?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on September 19, 2017, 03:29:55 AM
I've noticed the young French lad Mathis seems to be training with the first team and isn't in the squad there.

Oh and no niasse there either :)



Or Lookman.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 19, 2017, 03:31:59 AM
I've noticed the young French lad Mathis seems to be training with the first team and isn't in the squad there.

Oh and no niasse there either :)
A lad I know marked him in a friendly this summer, admittedly he was only playing for flint but he said the French lad was so strong and his touch was immense

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on September 19, 2017, 04:20:13 AM
Did we win then?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on September 19, 2017, 04:21:12 AM
yep 1-0
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 19, 2017, 04:26:27 AM
Nice one lid.

Only half watched it as I was playing PES then eating a chippy and watching Corrie, but stand out player for me was Anthony Evans.


for me it was the Derby striker Babos.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Martip on September 19, 2017, 04:27:11 AM
Anyone know how luke garbutt is getting on in the u23s these days ? Had high hopes for him but he seemed to have fallen away.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on September 19, 2017, 04:28:39 AM
Are we near the top of the league in this again? I know we started a bit ropey with all the new signings but are we back on it now?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bob Sacamano on September 19, 2017, 04:36:21 AM
Garbutt been playing CB? Often see two recognised LBs in those YTS line-ups.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on September 19, 2017, 04:36:28 AM
Anderlecht manager been sacked wonder if that will affect onyerkru?

Also, Gone a bit quiet on the dowell front, anyone know how he is doing?

News from Sherwod forest is that although the Tricky Trees (yes - they call themselves that - seriously) are playing shite at the moment, young Kieran is still turning heads.

He's finding it hard at the moment because he's not getting enough game-time according to the Forest faithful - and when he does - the rest of the team are so crap that he struggles to have an impact.

Word on the street though is that he is still considered their best midfielder, by most fans and by some distance.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Realist on September 19, 2017, 04:49:44 AM
Nice one lid.

Only half watched it as I was playing PES then eating a chippy and watching Corrie, but stand out player for me was Anthony Evans.

 :snigger:
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on September 19, 2017, 05:37:34 AM
:snigger:

🤷🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Realist on September 19, 2017, 06:55:51 AM
🤷🏻‍♂️

😂👍
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on September 19, 2017, 01:19:40 PM
Really don't know what you're getting at
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bluenuck on September 19, 2017, 01:27:53 PM
Really don't know what you're getting at

Who Fukkin does.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bob Sacamano on September 19, 2017, 01:46:35 PM
Really don't know what you're getting at

Just a dopey prick trying to troll.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Realist on September 19, 2017, 02:11:04 PM
Was just messing mate as fifa is better imo, calm down ladies, false alarm. No need to get your knickers in a twist. Have a lovely day xxx
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on September 19, 2017, 03:21:41 PM
Was just messing mate as fifa is better imo, calm down ladies, false alarm. No need go get your knickers in a twist. Have a lovely day xxx

I was hoping it was that. I'm a newly converted PES man and will happily chat all day long about that.

However it probably says a lot about how on edge people are with you at the minute mate. I don't even always disagree with you because I'm so disappointed with the season so far but you're running the risk of just being seen as a token troll.

Not having a go, just pointing it out.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: van der Meyde on September 19, 2017, 03:28:28 PM
Are we near the top of the league in this again? I know we started a bit ropey with all the new signings but are we back on it now?
In 3rd on 10 points. 5 points off Liverpool who are top who have won all 5 games.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Realist on September 19, 2017, 03:29:15 PM
I was hoping it was that. I'm a newly converted PES man and will happily chat all day long about that.

However it probably says a lot about how on edge people are with you at the minute mate. I don't even always disagree with you because I'm so disappointed with the season so far but you're running the risk of just being seen as a token troll.

Not having a go, just pointing it out.

Yeah I tried PES but the servers were crap
I honestly couldn't care less if people are on edge with me mate
I've asked many times for people to show me examples of my trolling but they can't so it doesn't arse me what people think.
It's only a little harem who don't like me and it's mainly cos they don't like the truth.
But thanks for the heads up dude.
Hope you have a good day 👍
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 19, 2017, 03:36:41 PM
He's finding it hard at the moment because he's not getting enough game-time according to the Forest faithful

629 minutes from a possible 900 isn't bad really, he's had 2/3 of the gametime. Great that he's well thought of though.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on September 19, 2017, 04:29:33 PM
629 minutes from a possible 900 isn't bad really, he's had 2/3 of the gametime. Great that he's well thought of though.

Haha - dunno the stats but:

my boss, Lee,  at work - "I don't know why they don't play him more"

my mate Angel "I think they're trying to protect him a bit - maybe there is an agreement with Everton that he won't play every game?"

my mum's next door neighbour Ian - "I love him - I just wish they'd play him more"

All season-ticket holders. Lee goes to most home games, Angel goes home and away, Ian goes every home game.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 19, 2017, 10:17:54 PM
Haha - dunno the stats but:

my boss, Lee,  at work - "I don't know why they don't play him more"

my mate Angel "I think they're trying to protect him a bit - maybe there is an agreement with Everton that he won't play every game?"

my mum's next door neighbour Ian - "I love him - I just wish they'd play him more"

All season-ticket holders. Lee goes to most home games, Angel goes home and away, Ian goes every home game.

Great stuff, thanks for sharing. I did look earlier, excluding added time he managed 62, 69, 27, 90, 62, 90, 90, 45, 63, 31 minutes which seems decent from our development perspective but it's high praise that the Forest faithful believe he should be getting more :)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 19, 2017, 10:27:22 PM
Haha - dunno the stats but:

my boss, Lee,  at work - "I don't know why they don't play him more"

my mate Angel "I think they're trying to protect him a bit - maybe there is an agreement with Everton that he won't play every game?"

my mum's next door neighbour Ian - "I love him - I just wish they'd play him more"

All season-ticket holders. Lee goes to most home games, Angel goes home and away, Ian goes every home game.
Loved angel (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170919/52dcb08a37f1bd6e64df8a6d303bca7b.jpg)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 21, 2017, 04:30:43 AM
Onyekeru scored the winner for anderlecht tonight in a cup game
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lincs Toffee on September 22, 2017, 12:46:31 AM
Onyekeru scored the winner for anderlecht tonight in a cup game
It's like seeing a nice car in the showroom and you haven't past your test yet.. he should be doing that for us !
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on September 22, 2017, 02:02:26 PM
Bring him back in January
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on September 23, 2017, 04:39:46 AM
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on September 23, 2017, 04:44:06 AM
This year so far -

3 goals in 6 games in the league

4 goals in 9 games in all competitions

I don;t know how many were starts or subs, sorry.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on September 23, 2017, 04:52:27 AM
You've got to say they are impressive stats.

Really interesting one this.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: blargins on September 23, 2017, 05:27:17 AM
This year so far -

3 goals in 6 games in the league

4 goals in 9 games in all competitions

I don;t know how many were starts or subs, sorry.

I know he got 2 in one game.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Confucius on September 23, 2017, 06:16:55 AM
Should get that Gerkens too. Would be delicious on the right with Coleman.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on September 23, 2017, 02:27:05 PM
We've got a really good crop of youngsters at the club now, could be exciting times ahead. I just wish we had a clearly identifiable formation and way of playing to slot them into. All feels a bit slapdash at the minute, hopefully a few wins on the bounce will change all that.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 23, 2017, 05:17:59 PM

not sure what to do this evening... Watch Dowell V Villa, or watch Mahrez and Gray destroy Liverpool.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on September 24, 2017, 08:23:09 PM
18 year old central defender Morgan Feeney looks a good prospect - pretty sure he's captained the U23's

If Williams gets injured and with Keane and Jags out, straight in at the deep end for this lad - no problem
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 26, 2017, 01:26:33 AM
was going to go to my mates and watch arsenal match (hes a big arsenal fan)

then i realised we're playing arsenal tonight :D

ill try and find a stream. if not on the efc website
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 26, 2017, 01:53:00 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKlk1udXUAEKdAX.jpg)

cant even find the stream on everton tv on everton.com ;/ wtf
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 26, 2017, 01:54:47 AM
just this blog ;/

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/09/25/evertonlive-u23s-face-arsenal
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bluenuck on September 26, 2017, 02:05:42 AM
This year so far -

3 goals in 6 games in the league

4 goals in 9 games in all competitions

I don;t know how many were starts or subs, sorry.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/henry-onyekuru/leistungsdaten/spieler/380415

4 started, 3 subbed for league.

Was subbed in for CL game at 60 minutes.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 26, 2017, 02:14:04 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKlk1udXUAEKdAX.jpg)

cant even find the stream on everton tv on everton.com ;/ wtf
No Kenny there. Assume heíll play (hopefully start) on Thursday.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 26, 2017, 02:26:34 AM
its 1-1 now

20:25 Almost A Second! evertonfc.com

Good play from Henen and Jones down the right sees the latter flash the ball across the six yard box. Sambou lunges but can't quite get a touch to steer it home.
20:23 GOAL! evertonfc.com

The two subs combine to haul Everton level! Sambou plays in Donkor and the German calmly slots past Huddart!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on September 26, 2017, 02:41:14 AM
Henen Sambou Donkor is a powerhouse front 3, bags of technical ability and pace as well.

going the next U23 game at goodison I reckon.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 26, 2017, 02:51:40 AM
winning now.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 26, 2017, 02:53:05 AM
2-2 now
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 26, 2017, 03:10:29 AM
Winning again
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on September 26, 2017, 03:23:35 AM
won 4-2 - goals from Donkor, Henen, Evans and an Own goal

Came back from 0-1 down at Half Time too
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 26, 2017, 03:25:13 AM
great result, cant wait to see the goals.. shame it wasnt on live.. anyone know why it wasnt on?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 26, 2017, 03:51:46 AM
https://twitter.com/HenenDavid/status/912417331661479937
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on September 26, 2017, 03:54:05 AM
https://twitter.com/HenenDavid/status/912417331661479937

Look at Unsie's little college of knowledge there. Going to win the league again these lads.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on September 26, 2017, 04:26:54 AM
Looks like Gethin Jones has broken his leg tonight. :(

Shame as was getting close to first team
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Confucius on September 26, 2017, 04:27:33 AM
Look at Unsie's little college of knowledge there. Going to win the league again these lads.

College of Knowledge

I like that.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on September 26, 2017, 04:36:38 AM
Best players promoted to the first team and still pulling off results like this.

Unsworth deserves massive credit.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on September 26, 2017, 04:36:54 AM
Looks like Gethin Jones has broken his leg tonight. :(

Shame as was getting close to first team

Terrible news that he's one of the real old guard of this u23 side.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on September 26, 2017, 04:37:46 AM
Best players promoted to the first team and still pulling off results like this.

Unsworth deserves massive credit.

Got to be one of the biggest budgets in PL2 at his disposal.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 26, 2017, 04:40:36 AM
Looks like Gethin Jones has broken his leg tonight. :(

Shame as was getting close to first team
Was he?
What you heard there?
From the outside he looked like he was about fifth to sixth choice

Horrible for the lad, hasn't he had a bad injury before??
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on September 26, 2017, 04:51:46 AM
Got to be one of the biggest budgets in PL2 at his disposal.

Koeman has showed throwing money at replacements is harder than it looks.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: pjk on September 26, 2017, 05:12:22 AM
Second in the league after that bad start. 4 wins in a row. Not bad. :)



http://uk.soccerway.com/teams/england/everton-u23/37158/
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on September 26, 2017, 05:15:04 AM
double fracture
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on September 26, 2017, 05:42:38 AM
Second in the league after that bad start. 4 wins in a row. Not bad. :)



http://uk.soccerway.com/teams/england/everton-u23/37158/

Have they got Baningime's age down as 29 there
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: pjk on September 26, 2017, 06:16:58 AM
Have they got Baningime's age down as 29 there



Yeah, they have. Lazy journalism. ;)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on September 26, 2017, 12:42:48 PM
Was he?
What you heard there?
From the outside he looked like he was about fifth to sixth choice

Horrible for the lad, hasn't he had a bad injury before??

Can't remember where I read about his 1st team prospects Jim but it was seemingly close.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 26, 2017, 05:50:22 PM
Great shame for Jones :(

My own impression of him was that he is going to play for Wales, but never be good enough for us. I reckon he will have a solid career but his peak level would be similar to Shane Duffy, which is not a bad thing, jsut not top third of the Premier League quality.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Hawkandro on September 26, 2017, 06:28:24 PM
Good news for Jones...

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-defender-gethin-jones-escapes-13675141
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on September 26, 2017, 07:18:37 PM
Good news for Jones...

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-defender-gethin-jones-escapes-13675141

Good news in a bad news roundabout way....
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Eddiesheeds on September 26, 2017, 08:47:41 PM
Just thinking is Jones in the Europa squad and if he is can we call up a replacement for him. You all know who I mean
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 27, 2017, 12:27:29 AM
I love the name BANING ME  wish he gets into the first team, be an awesome handle on here as well..


I guess if the match isnt live on Everton TV, they upload the highlights the next day :D

some terrible goal keeping in that, the under 23s look so happy :D
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: kramer0 on September 27, 2017, 12:45:55 AM
Great goal from Antony Evans. Super lanky but super skilled.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on September 27, 2017, 01:23:31 AM
Great goal from Antony Evans. Super lanky but super skilled.

Have you read much about biningime or adeniran? Like the look of what I've seen of both in the glimpses of what I've seen.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: kramer0 on September 27, 2017, 02:05:21 AM
Have you read much about biningime or adeniran? Like the look of what I've seen of both in the glimpses of what I've seen.

Unsworth seems to really like Baningime. He played a big role last season with Joe Williams out and Davies moving up to the first team. He's a bit small but he's quick and does a lot of good defensive work. Fulham supporters thought highly of Adeniran and were disappointed to see him go but I don't much about him since he's so new.

The Grand Old Team "Everton Youth Teams Thread" is where I get most of my info about these players, although I haven't been keeping up lately. A few of the posters on there go to the U23 games regularly and have a pretty good idea of how highly rated the players are. It's probably the only thread on that site worth reading.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Hawkandro on September 27, 2017, 06:25:48 PM
The Grand Old Team "Everton Youth Teams Thread" is where I get most of my info about these players, although I haven't been keeping up lately.

Sort it out, Kramer, FFS...
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Faceatthefence on October 01, 2017, 12:16:54 AM
Nice to see Kieran Dowell back amongst the goals today,bagging the winner in a 2-1 win against Sheff Utd.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: starblood on October 01, 2017, 07:55:11 AM
Great shame for Jones :(

My own impression of him was that he is going to play for Wales, but never be good enough for us. I reckon he will have a solid career but his peak level would be similar to Shane Duffy, which is not a bad thing, jsut not top third of the Premier League quality.
Shane Duffy was good enough to be given a decent chance (long term) in the first team.

He played exceedingly well when called upon during an injury crisis. Only for Moyes to drop him immediately when more senior players were available.

I'm a David Moyes fan, but not in this instance.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Rodenplav64 on October 01, 2017, 03:31:14 PM
Shane Duffy was good enough to be given a decent chance (long term) in the first team.

He played exceedingly well when called upon during an injury crisis. Only for Moyes to drop him immediately when more senior players were available.

I'm a David Moyes fan, but not in this instance.

Moyes always went for experience because he couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag .
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 04:29:35 PM
Moyes always went for experience because he couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag .

Not sure I totally agree with that. He wasn't a one season wonder with us you know.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Rodenplav64 on October 01, 2017, 05:57:59 PM
Not sure I totally agree with that. He wasn't a one season wonder with us you know.

I agree but he never looked likely to progress us ( finances a reason ) and we always seemed to run through beaten horses to finish 7th or 8th . Thats fine if thats what is acceptable given the lack of investment he faced . He did however prefer ( a bit like Ronald ) square pegging a seasoned pro rather than giving youngsters a chance unless injuries meant he had no choice . I would accept that had he had money he may have been able to develop youngsters over a longer period .
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 01, 2017, 06:23:05 PM
under 18s drew 1-1 with man utd. been trying to find a decent link for it since yesterday. but nothing yet.. best article so far
Everton U18s held by Manchester United in game stifled by poor finishing
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-u18s-held-manchester-united-13697628
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 03, 2017, 12:42:10 AM

Even the under 18 right back looks better than Martina.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Makis on October 03, 2017, 01:42:51 PM
I'm sure Martina would look decent against U18 opposition.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on October 03, 2017, 01:54:57 PM

Even the under 18 right back looks better than Martina.

Very good attacking. Some nice interplay in the run up to his assist, some attacking intent and putting the ball into the box and before that - an amazing crossfield ball from right back to left wing that was close to perfect.

But he did stop tracking his runner for the goal though. He gave up on the run but if he'd stayed with his man he would have at least been in a position to challenge him and maybe stop the goal, giving us a win instead of a draw.

If that sounds harsh - I don't mean to be. It's only U18's, not the end of the world and I'm sure he'll learn from it. It is nice seeing the youngsters do well. Reckon the U23's would beat the senior side at the mo (even though it's half made up of U23's).
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Hawkandro on October 03, 2017, 02:27:31 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4942486/Everton-poised-offer-Beni-Baningime-new-contract.html
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on October 03, 2017, 02:35:34 PM
Boss player him.

He's the next one to break through.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on October 03, 2017, 02:36:45 PM
No time like the present, with Feeney
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on October 03, 2017, 03:39:43 PM
I'm sure Martina would look decent against U18 opposition.

He should do. He'd be old enough to be their dad in some areas of Liverpool.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Django on October 03, 2017, 04:41:49 PM
Would like to see another young player make a Davies-style breakthrough this season and a DM would be great so we don't have to persist watching MS and Gueye go through the motions for another 30odd games.

It's a rarity that you see a breakthrough like Davies though isn't it.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on October 03, 2017, 05:35:16 PM
"Head like a rocket, stuck his finger in the socket, punk mother fucker called Baningime"

(One for the oldschoolers)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 10, 2017, 11:01:22 PM
the spine of the under 21 team is ours :d

https://twitter.com/England/status/917763012089573381
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 10, 2017, 11:06:47 PM
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on October 10, 2017, 11:14:26 PM
the spine of the under 21 team is ours :d

https://twitter.com/England/status/917763012089573381

Good to see our lads getting selected in front of Solanke and Alexander-Arnold.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 10, 2017, 11:17:07 PM
Good to see our lads getting selected in front of Solanke and Alexander-Arnold.

lots of dodgy youtube links, no legit links :(
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 10, 2017, 11:20:48 PM
only link i've found that doesnt ask for CC verification.

http://www.vipbox.nu/football/513040/1/andorra-u21-vs-england-u21-live-stream-online.html

but not streaming anything, says its waiting. but the match started 20 mins ago :(

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 10, 2017, 11:34:44 PM
Good to see our lads getting selected in front of Solanke and Alexander-Arnold.
It's cos they are playing Andorra
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 10, 2017, 11:45:38 PM
It's cos they are playing Andorra

its a conspiracy! most amount of Everton players in an England team since the under 20 world cup, and its not even fucking on anywhere..

I think its on bet365. but they dont seem to remember who i am, and want me to create a new account and deposit 5£

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 11, 2017, 01:17:47 AM
Tom Davies scored to give england the win!

Vlasic scored for Croatia last night :D
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Martip on October 11, 2017, 01:36:29 AM
Tom Davies is going to be a worldy.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on October 11, 2017, 02:31:31 AM
It's cos they are playing Andorra

Didnít even clock the opposition
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 11, 2017, 02:35:39 AM
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on October 12, 2017, 01:31:10 PM
"Head like a rocket, stuck his finger in the socket, punk mother fucker called Baningime"

(One for the oldschoolers)

Yeah that Kid can Play  :)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on October 14, 2017, 01:32:20 AM
Jose Baxter started tonight
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on October 14, 2017, 01:39:21 AM
And we're 1-0 thanks to Sambou


2-0! Garbutt smashes in a free kick

Live on City's Facebook
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Simon Paul on October 14, 2017, 01:39:41 AM
Jose Baxter started tonight

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/26BGqofNXjxluwX0k/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Eddiesheeds on October 14, 2017, 01:41:40 AM
What a goal by Luke Garbutt Fantastic free kick
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bally on October 14, 2017, 01:45:26 AM
Where's Everyone watching this
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on October 14, 2017, 01:46:59 AM
Where's Everyone watching this

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on October 14, 2017, 01:47:27 AM
Didn't expect that to embed, boss!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bally on October 14, 2017, 01:57:02 AM

TA
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on October 14, 2017, 02:19:47 AM
3-0

Might just ditch the first team
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bally on October 14, 2017, 02:27:48 AM
David Prentice has just called Garbutt free kick saucy.... I feel sick
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on October 14, 2017, 02:31:23 AM
Go on the lads.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 14, 2017, 02:36:20 AM
https://twitter.com/EvertonAcademy/status/918922713091268608
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bluedylan on October 14, 2017, 02:37:30 AM
Please let's appoint a manager who has a strong record developing young players. We've got a right crop, if we can harness and develop them properly.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 14, 2017, 02:45:37 AM
Please let's appoint a manager who has a strong record developing young players. We've got a right crop, if we can harness and develop them properly.

David unsworth?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on October 14, 2017, 03:00:02 AM
David unsworth?

And let's lure Arteta back as assistant :)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on October 14, 2017, 05:42:18 AM
Thereís a very good chance we might win the U-23 league for the second year in succession with half of last yearís team having moved either upwards or out on loan. That would be some going and massive credit to Unsworth and his staff.
The future is bright, shame the present is pretty dull.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: hannu on October 14, 2017, 07:24:46 AM
Their last game of the season is against Liverpool. If they can or already have won the league by then we should totally have that game at Goodison

why we would only bottle it

didnt realise it was from january
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Confucius on October 14, 2017, 07:36:18 AM
We do have one of the highest budgets for the u23. Even more than City's.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on October 14, 2017, 07:52:24 AM
We do have one of the highest budgets for the u23. Even more than City's.

Great to know Unsworth can manage and identify the right players too!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Everton Mint on October 14, 2017, 09:45:41 PM
U18's won 5-1 @ Sunderland today.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on October 14, 2017, 11:34:20 PM
U18's won 5-1 @ Sunderland today.

The U-18ís could probably beat Sunderlandís first team 5-1.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bigmanbob on October 15, 2017, 04:16:26 AM
The U-18ís could probably beat Sunderlandís first team 5-1.
They could probably beat our first team 5-1
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 17, 2017, 05:00:46 PM
the difference between the way our under 23s play and the first team plays..



Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 18, 2017, 04:57:56 AM
Battered tonight by wolfsburg
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on October 18, 2017, 05:05:34 AM
Made a lot of changes and were 1-0 at HT so hardly battered.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 18, 2017, 05:11:39 AM
Made a lot of changes and were 1-0 at HT so hardly battered.
Going off the match report they were

Yes lots of changes, two lads from u18s playing cb which is good to hear
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on October 18, 2017, 05:13:22 AM
How dare they let James McCarthy taint the under 23s with his presence.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bigmanbob on October 18, 2017, 02:53:01 PM
It seemed a strange approach to the game to me, they played not only two under 18's lads (who to be fair sound like they had a good game) but they also gave a few of the squad players a game. The echo seemed to think this is because they have a big game on Friday. Would getting them used to playing two games in a week not be good prep for playing for the first team? Jesus my under 15 team played four games in a week at the end of least season to get all their games in
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on October 18, 2017, 02:55:28 PM
They're obviously missing Oumar
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on October 18, 2017, 03:37:00 PM
It seemed a strange approach to the game to me, they played not only two under 18's lads (who to be fair sound like they had a good game) but they also gave a few of the squad players a game. The echo seemed to think this is because they have a big game on Friday. Would getting them used to playing two games in a week not be good prep for playing for the first team? Jesus my under 15 team played four games in a week at the end of least season to get all their games in

Unsworth and his team have a pretty good record so far so I'll trust their judgement on how they best utilise the lads in the setup.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bigmanbob on October 18, 2017, 04:10:48 PM
Unsworth and his team have a pretty good record so far so I'll trust their judgement on how they best utilise the lads in the setup.
Yes totally agree, just seemed a bit strange :)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on October 18, 2017, 06:09:20 PM
Yes totally agree, just seemed a bit strange :)

Keeping up the long everton tradition of being shite in Europe.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Hawkandro on October 18, 2017, 06:46:57 PM
Unsworth out.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: gizzblue on October 18, 2017, 08:16:11 PM
Unsworth out.
Long as it's for interim first team job...I concur.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on October 19, 2017, 11:06:32 PM
Something to watch while in work tomorrow

https://twitter.com/EvertonAcademy/status/921041530894381058
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 04:27:22 PM
Full game on live at 2pm kick off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DdpX7660rA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DdpX7660rA)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 08:10:00 PM
The video has been removed by the user, nice one. Been a good 24hrs at EFC.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 08:18:46 PM
Hello Lazarou, you old fool it's on facebook now.

https://t.co/YjJJ3aWoit (https://t.co/YjJJ3aWoit)

Jose Baxter playing!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on October 20, 2017, 11:04:53 PM
lost 1-0 , could have gone top as the shite lost on Monday.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Everton Mint on October 21, 2017, 07:17:41 PM
The U-18ís could probably beat Sunderlandís first team 5-1.

Ok so they beat previously unbeaten, top of the league, Man City 5-3 today.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on October 21, 2017, 07:23:06 PM
How old is Sandro - 22? Could do with watching him play for the U23's to see if he would stand out - not so sure that he would

Klaassen, on the other hand, would look class - and so he should!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 22, 2017, 06:38:00 PM
How old is Sandro - 22? Could do with watching him play for the U23's to see if he would stand out - not so sure that he would

Klaassen, on the other hand, would look class - and so he should!

i said this around 2 weeks ago.. i just got laughed  by bluebeagle or blue someone..   but thats what needs to happen.. the benefits for them are so much better than just sitting on the bench..


anyway

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 24, 2017, 03:56:33 PM
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: boothill on October 24, 2017, 04:09:35 PM
That fraser hornby, goes like a fucking train doesnt he
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Trublue on October 24, 2017, 04:19:08 PM
I
i said this around 2 weeks ago.. i just got laughed  by bluebeagle or blue someone..   but thats what needs to happen.. the benefits for them are so much better than just sitting on the bench..


anyway




I think putting Sandro, in the Under 23's would do him the world of good. Get him playing 90 minutes so will get him fitter. Scoring goals and build his confidence. Also playing football with guys of the same age group may help him enjoy his football for a while and get a smile back on his face.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on October 24, 2017, 04:39:11 PM
Iím all for Sandro in the U23s. Did Niasse the world of good.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on October 24, 2017, 04:42:28 PM
Ex Barcelona? We would soon find out
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: pjk on October 24, 2017, 04:51:51 PM
Iím all for Sandro in the U23s. Did Niasse the world of good.



The good thing with Unsworth taking the reins for the first team is; he's got his finger on the pulse for the U23s and should be able to make a well-informed decision were Sandro is concerned. Koeman getting sacked could be a blessing in disguise were Sandro and Everton are concerned. Over to you Unsy mate. It's all yours.  :)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 24, 2017, 06:00:04 PM
https://twitter.com/SoppyToffee/status/922573506025607168
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Hawkandro on October 24, 2017, 06:39:52 PM
So, do we reckon Unsworth will give any of the U23s a go in the first team?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bigmanbob on October 24, 2017, 07:05:22 PM
I wonder who will take the reigns for the U23's whilst Unsy has the first team, maybe Dunc could cut his teeth there
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on October 24, 2017, 08:50:11 PM
So, do we reckon Unsworth will give any of the U23s a go in the first team?

We don't need them. We have more than enough youth in the first team setup at the minute, he just needs to concentrate on getting the first team squad back up to the levels required instead of throwing more kids into a tough situation.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 24, 2017, 08:52:04 PM
So, do we reckon Unsworth will give any of the U23s a go in the first team?

https://twitter.com/Everton/status/922822091312975872
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lazarou on October 24, 2017, 08:55:36 PM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/922822091312975872

Shame Cuco is still hanging around like a bad smell. Was hoping he would have been in Ronald's car boot yesterday and onto the next stepping stone to Barca.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Hawkandro on October 24, 2017, 09:11:15 PM
Beni Bangingmeme meant to be very highly regarded.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bigmanbob on October 24, 2017, 10:10:14 PM
Jeffers is taking temporary charge
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 25, 2017, 01:24:34 AM
We don't need them. We have more than enough youth in the first team setup at the minute, he just needs to concentrate on getting the first team squad back up to the levels required instead of throwing more kids into a tough situation.

Not sure. Think I'd like to see someone else have a go at left back (not suggesting we have that player in the u23s as I wouldn't know)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on October 25, 2017, 03:07:55 AM
Not sure. Think I'd like to see someone else have a go at left back (not suggesting we have that player in the u23s as I wouldn't know)

We do but heís not registered to play.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 02, 2017, 07:48:49 PM
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 11, 2017, 06:27:55 PM
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: mikey_blue on November 11, 2017, 08:35:59 PM

Loved that second goal.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 11, 2017, 09:37:08 PM
Two things. 1. Hornby knows where the net is, must have a good record at this level. 2. The intro of those vids makes me think the highlight soundtrack is teenage dirtbag.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Major Clanger on November 11, 2017, 09:40:11 PM
Two things. 1. Hornby knows where the net is, must have a good record at this level. 2. The intro of those vids makes me think the highlight soundtrack is teenage dirtbag.

Similar, but it's definitely a different song. The guitarist is certainly a fan of The Edge.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Goaljira on November 11, 2017, 10:05:59 PM
Two things. 1. Hornby knows where the net is, must have a good record at this level. 2. The intro of those vids makes me think the highlight soundtrack is teenage dirtbag.

Hadnt watched it with sound, so had to go back and rewatch and youre right!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on November 11, 2017, 10:14:34 PM
Hornby scores every week.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on November 11, 2017, 11:00:55 PM
Hornby scores every week.

Been training with the first team.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 11, 2017, 11:01:19 PM
Two things. 1. Hornby knows where the net is, must have a good record at this level. 2. The intro of those vids makes me think the highlight soundtrack is teenage dirtbag.


the music in the videos is awesome.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Silas on November 11, 2017, 11:03:36 PM
Hornby scores every week.

Be a result of his train-ing.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ross on November 11, 2017, 11:04:56 PM
Sounds like heís on the right track.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 12, 2017, 12:01:06 AM
Sounds like heís on the right track.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/b161ae34807aa6170707373fdb8584c4/tenor.gif?itemid=7862638)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on November 12, 2017, 07:30:30 AM
Hornby scores every week.

Itís hard to gauge his ability. Tends to go steaming into tackles. Heís a bit off the rails if you ask me.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on November 12, 2017, 10:45:05 AM
Been training with the first team.

Really? Mans young as fuck.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 12, 2017, 07:45:40 PM
He's a big unit like
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 12, 2017, 08:31:17 PM
Heís got some boss smut on his IG following.  :evil:
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on November 19, 2017, 01:43:55 AM
was 0-0 when i looked, went a made a cuppa  losing 2-0  fucking RS
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Trowel on November 19, 2017, 02:09:06 AM
3-0

This feels familiar.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on November 19, 2017, 02:15:07 AM
Francis Jeffers is managing these.

Another reason unsworth can't continue being our manager
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on November 19, 2017, 02:37:06 AM
4-0
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: therealdunc on November 20, 2017, 06:09:48 AM
Francis Jeffers
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Coyb12 on November 20, 2017, 06:22:42 AM
Francis Jeffers
He had £50 on the result.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 23, 2017, 10:31:11 PM
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Goaljira on November 28, 2017, 02:30:17 AM
I see Liam Walsh is back.  And Anthony Evans.

Bah, i got Anthony Evans and Antonee Robinson mixed up.  I thought we might have a left back.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on November 28, 2017, 03:50:16 AM
F-T 0-0
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GLewis on November 30, 2017, 10:19:53 PM
Linked with a striker from Hertha...

http://www.alfredopedulla.com/dalla-germania-gli-occhi-delleverton-kiprit-dellhertha/
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on November 30, 2017, 11:56:48 PM
Linked with a striker from Hertha...

http://www.alfredopedulla.com/dalla-germania-gli-occhi-delleverton-kiprit-dellhertha/

Muhammed Kiprit, 9 goals/4 assists in 12 games at the German equivalent of the U23s. Turkish U19 international, born in Berlin. 18 years old, and as of two weeks ago had yet to sign personal terms on a senior contract.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: kramer0 on November 30, 2017, 11:59:08 PM
Strategy:

Phase 1: Sign all of the U23 strikers in Europe.
Phase 2: Wait for the next great forward to emerge.
Phase 3: Win or profit.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on December 01, 2017, 12:24:10 AM
Strategy:

Phase 1: Sign all of the U23 strikers in Europe.
Phase 2: Wait for the next great forward to emerge.
Phase 3: Win or profit.

(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/63046255/sign-all-the-strikers.jpg)

back on topic


Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bob Sacamano on December 01, 2017, 12:32:31 AM
Strategy:

Phase 1: Sign all of the U23 strikers in Europe.
Phase 2: Wait for the next great forward to emerge.
Phase 3: Win or profit.

That you, Arsene?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on December 01, 2017, 05:15:55 PM
That you, Arsene?

He's not even that forward thinking these days. Just pays big money for players and lets them run their contracts down now.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on December 02, 2017, 04:34:36 AM
Lost to Leicester tonight 2-1
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on December 05, 2017, 09:20:45 PM
Five youngsters in the top 100. Highest English club, second only to Leverkusen and level with Real.

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5147331/Mbappe-overtakes-Alli-Europes-valuable-youngster.html
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 06, 2017, 03:59:39 AM
Lad called Inar Iversen on the bench tonight. Not heard of him or ever seen him in any squad. Anyone know who he is?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: mikey_blue on December 06, 2017, 04:04:03 AM
Lad called Inar Iversen on the bench tonight. Not heard of him or ever seen him in any squad. Anyone know who he is?

Norwegian kid. We brought him in on trial a while ago. Must of extended it. Think heís a CM.

Thatís all Iíve got.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Goaljira on December 06, 2017, 04:15:51 AM
Lad called Inar Iversen on the bench tonight. Not heard of him or ever seen him in any squad. Anyone know who he is?

He's refined, sublime, he makes you feel fine
Though very much maligned and misunderstood
But if you know 'Inar he's a real crowd pleaser
He's ever so good, is Inar Iversen.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on December 06, 2017, 04:26:43 AM
He's refined, sublime, he makes you feel fine
Though very much maligned and misunderstood
But if you know 'Inar he's a real crowd pleaser
He's ever so good, is Inar Iversen.
Let's hope he makes the first team - if only for this on the terraces. If only
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bigmanbob on December 06, 2017, 04:29:41 AM
He's refined, sublime, he makes you feel fine
Though very much maligned and misunderstood
But if you know 'Inar he's a real crowd pleaser
He's ever so good, is Inar Iversen.
That sir, is a thing of beauty
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Django on December 10, 2017, 11:51:44 PM
McCarthy and Bolasie playing for the U-23s tomorrow
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on December 11, 2017, 12:11:08 AM
McCarthy and Bolasie playing for the U-23s tomorrow

Boss.

About bolasie that is. McCarthy can fuck off
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: pjk on December 11, 2017, 12:12:12 AM
Boss.

About bolasie that is. McCarthy can fuck off



"Calm down"!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 11, 2017, 07:03:48 PM
https://twitter.com/matty2102/status/940204229863575554
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 11, 2017, 07:49:25 PM
Bolasie is exactly what we need; pace, power, direct - heíll start the second heís fully fit.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GLewis on December 11, 2017, 08:02:15 PM
Winning 0-1 half time.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EvertonAcademy/status/940217502780583936

Decent finish but you could squeeze Russia through the two CBs.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 11, 2017, 08:13:45 PM
Winning 0-1 half time.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EvertonAcademy/status/940217502780583936

Decent finish but you could squeeze Russia through the two CBs.
Thought he showed some good glimpses the other night, he's only 17 aint he?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Rhys on December 11, 2017, 08:15:51 PM
Thought he showed some good glimpses the other night, he's only 17 aint he?

18 a couple of months ago
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 11, 2017, 08:19:06 PM
18 a couple of months ago
Looked a decent player, hope he progresses
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on December 11, 2017, 08:33:01 PM
Bolasie just came on
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: pjk on December 11, 2017, 08:35:06 PM
Good luck Yannick. It's been a long hard road. :)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 11, 2017, 09:16:38 PM
Lost 2 1 despite being 1 up with 10 to go
Bolaisie got 30mins
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: plumber on December 11, 2017, 09:30:34 PM
Unsworth Out!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 11, 2017, 11:48:37 PM
Lost 2 1 despite being 1 up with 10 to go
Bolaisie got 30mins

Everton that.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on December 12, 2017, 06:59:02 PM
Everton that.

not really, our under 23 team have scored lots and lots of late goals to win games and turn the matches around.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on December 13, 2017, 12:32:26 AM
Don't recall McCarthy playing.

Is that sack of shite injured again?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: sam of the south on December 13, 2017, 12:52:06 AM
Winning 0-1 half time.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EvertonAcademy/status/940217502780583936

Decent finish but you could squeeze Russia through the two CBs.

He is such a dreamboat 😍
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on December 13, 2017, 01:15:27 AM
He is such a dreamboat 😍

Unit on the sly isnít he, massive
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bob Sacamano on December 13, 2017, 01:24:32 AM
Don't recall McCarthy playing.

Is that sack of shite injured again?

Is there a more pointless player in the payroll?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on December 13, 2017, 01:33:29 AM
Is there a more pointless player in the payroll?

Jose Baxter?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: gizzblue on December 13, 2017, 01:35:35 AM
Is there a more pointless player in the payroll?
Stek ?.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: sam of the south on December 13, 2017, 01:37:11 AM
Unit on the sly isnít he, massive

So.

I've.

Heard.

 :blush:



Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Goaljira on December 13, 2017, 01:48:28 AM
Stek ?.

Forgot he even existed.  Must've subconciously assumed he left with Koeman.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on December 16, 2017, 04:23:06 AM
Yannick played 1st half  v Zagreb tonight-   game ended 0-0


and apparently some one called McCarthy played 45 Min
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 17, 2017, 04:12:32 AM
 :love: :love: :love:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRM0lkLWAAAiFaX.jpg:large)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: sam of the south on December 17, 2017, 04:23:01 AM
:love: :love: :love:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRM0lkLWAAAiFaX.jpg:large)

I love Jonjoe's Scal Swag 💛
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jamokachi on December 17, 2017, 05:36:17 AM
It's nice having a boy-band in the side.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bally on December 17, 2017, 06:33:09 AM
:love: :love: :love:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRM0lkLWAAAiFaX.jpg:large)
Why is mason Holgate doing an impression of Ashley Cole
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on December 17, 2017, 08:42:20 AM
Web ranking :
Lookman
Davies
Kenny
DCL
Mase
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bally on December 17, 2017, 11:44:00 AM
:love: :love: :love:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRM0lkLWAAAiFaX.jpg:large)
Is it just me or do they all look photoshopped into that picture
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Escla on December 17, 2017, 11:49:48 AM
Is it just me or do they all look photoshopped into that picture

When I look at that photo I think "class of 92" could be...could be...

(Bally-a fellow insomniac)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: van der Meyde on December 17, 2017, 02:32:37 PM
Web ranking :
Lookman
Davies
Kenny
DCL
Mase

Would swap Davies and Lookman, but otherwise I make you spot on.

Poor efforts from Dom and Mase.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on December 17, 2017, 03:48:07 PM
Web ranking :
Lookman
Davies
Kenny
DCL
Mase


Agreed.

Is that a pair of Stan Smiths Davies is rocking?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on December 17, 2017, 05:03:32 PM
Would swap Davies and Lookman, but otherwise I make you spot on.

Poor efforts from Dom and Mase.

Iím a sucker for a gum sole but I can see your point
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: van der Meyde on December 17, 2017, 05:07:08 PM
Iím a sucker for a gum sole but I can see your point
Oh aye, same.

I'd always go for a plain pair of white trabs over a plain pair of black though.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: van der Meyde on December 17, 2017, 05:08:31 PM
Agreed.

Is that a pair of Stan Smiths Davies is rocking?
Oh yes.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: gizzblue on December 17, 2017, 05:10:17 PM
Naa
Dom first, love a blue trab
Mase
Davies
Lookman
Kenny
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: howard1334 on December 17, 2017, 05:13:13 PM
:love: :love: :love:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRM0lkLWAAAiFaX.jpg:large)

What is this for haha?

Also, I know he is not English and never played for the U23s, but if we are going by just age, where is Vlasic!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on December 17, 2017, 05:40:00 PM
What is this for haha?

Also, I know he is not English and never played for the U23s, but if we are going by just age, where is Vlasic!

This was done a while ago I think so he probably wasn't here.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on December 17, 2017, 06:30:28 PM
Web ranking :
Lookman
Davies
Kenny
DCL
Mase

thats probably how i would've rated them start of the season. now it would be

Kenny.
Holgate.
DCL
Davies
Lookman.


Vlasic would slot in behind Kenny, if not 1st place.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: sam of the south on December 17, 2017, 06:31:36 PM
Why is mason Holgate doing an impression of Ashley Cole

You know what, I reckon that might be why they're cracking up 😃

Top marks, Mase, if so 👌🏼
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Goaljira on December 17, 2017, 06:41:39 PM
Agreed.

Is that a pair of Stan Smiths Davies is rocking?
And they look like proper ones too, not the new ones that have Stan Smith written on them.  Another case of 'those who know, understand.  Those that don't, don't matter'.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on December 17, 2017, 07:40:33 PM
Or Dunlop Green Flash

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 17, 2017, 10:07:26 PM
Cant  beat the old hi tec silver shadow
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on December 18, 2017, 12:01:05 AM
And Hi-Tec Squash
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: gizzblue on December 18, 2017, 01:40:51 AM
And Hi-Tec Squash
Fucking throwbacks. ..😅

I wear hitec (Made) magnum Amazon work boots...but havnt had their trainers etc since a pair of  hitec equipe footy boots 20 years back.
Cant  beat the old hi tec silver shadow
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: ally2 on December 18, 2017, 01:45:53 AM
Used to rock the Hi-Tec Stradas when I was 9 (bottom of the range).  Then Dunlop Gold Flash (level below Green flash) for PE a few years later.  And some Joe Bloggs massively baggy jeans a la Vanilla Ice but with a 28 inch waist (and still needing a belt to keep 'em up).  Basically I looked like an absolute moron
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: mikey_blue on December 18, 2017, 02:23:25 AM
Cant  beat the old hi tec silver shadow

No longer standard issue in the military. Trying to run cross country in those fuckers was torture.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on January 02, 2018, 11:11:42 PM
Barnsley have apparently made a £1m offer to buy Joe Williams who is on loan there. Anyone know much about the lad?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: kramer0 on January 03, 2018, 12:04:07 AM
Barnsley have apparently made a £1m offer to buy Joe Williams who is on loan there. Anyone know much about the lad?

He looks like a good Championship DM, with around 5 tackles/interceptions per 90. Doesn't contribute much in attack but 1 dribble and 1 key pass per 90 suggest that he can do a little something. Probably has a chance of being PL quality but I think his path to ever playing for Everton is pretty well blocked with all of the pure DMs we have, Baningime included. It probably makes sense for him to move on, especially at a club where he's already doing well.

I'd be bothered more by Liam Walsh leaving permanently (there were rumours that Bristol City wanted to sign him in December). A good passer who dictates tempo is exactly what we need in the middle. We'd be better off finding a loan destination where he'll actually play. Or giving him the odd game when Rooney is out if we reach safety early enough.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on January 03, 2018, 12:35:15 AM
He looks like a good Championship DM, with around 5 tackles/interceptions per 90. Doesn't contribute much in attack but 1 dribble and 1 key pass per 90 suggest that he can do a little something. Probably has a chance of being PL quality but I think his path to ever playing for Everton is pretty well blocked with all of the pure DMs we have, Baningime included. It probably makes sense for him to move on, especially at a club where he's already doing well.

I'd be bothered more by Liam Walsh leaving permanently (there were rumours that Bristol City wanted to sign him in December). A good passer who dictates tempo is exactly what we need in the middle. We'd be better off finding a loan destination where he'll actually play. Or giving him the odd game when Rooney is out if we reach safety early enough.

Seems to have quitened down a bit for Walsh. Didnít blow the doors off it at Birmingham but not sure what shape they were in at that time...Redknapp was it?

Hasnít been near the team when obviously a few others have even in the dead rubber, although he may have been on loan or injured? Not sure if he was recalled or injured.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: kramer0 on January 03, 2018, 12:37:02 AM
Seems to have quitened down a bit for Walsh. Didnít blow the doors off it at Birmingham but not sure what shape they were in at that time...Redknapp was it?

Hasnít been near the team when obviously a few others have even in the dead rubber, although he may have been on loan or injured? Not sure if he was recalled or injured.


Birmingham are a mess and wanted experienced players so no surprise that he didn't play.

And he couldn't play in the dead rubber. Loan recalls can only go through during transfer windows now. The new loan rules do allow on-loan players to play for the parent club's U23s, though, which is why he came back earlier.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on January 06, 2018, 12:12:08 AM
He looks like a good Championship DM, with around 5 tackles/interceptions per 90. Doesn't contribute much in attack but 1 dribble and 1 key pass per 90 suggest that he can do a little something. Probably has a chance of being PL quality but I think his path to ever playing for Everton is pretty well blocked with all of the pure DMs we have, Baningime included. It probably makes sense for him to move on, especially at a club where he's already doing well.

I'd be bothered more by Liam Walsh leaving permanently (there were rumours that Bristol City wanted to sign him in December). A good passer who dictates tempo is exactly what we need in the middle. We'd be better off finding a loan destination where he'll actually play. Or giving him the odd game when Rooney is out if we reach safety early enough.

Gone today.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on January 06, 2018, 01:30:02 AM
Good career choice imo
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 11, 2018, 08:06:15 PM
Charsley gone to Bolton on loan for the rest of season....... Good move for the lad
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on January 11, 2018, 09:41:04 PM
Charsley gone to Bolton on loan for the rest of season....... Good move for the lad

Nice, think he quite often gets overlooked with the other talents we have but I think heís a decent player. I back him to do well.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 11, 2018, 09:41:53 PM
Nice, think he quite often gets overlooked with the other talents we have but I think he’s a decent player. I back him to do well.
Seems to be decent in various positions without really nailing down a position

Hope this goes well
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on January 11, 2018, 11:47:21 PM
I see Brendon Galloway is possibly coming back from Sunderland. Makes sense to not be there but not sure what good he'll be here.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 12, 2018, 12:19:25 AM
I see Brendon Galloway is possibly coming back from Sunderland. Makes sense to not be there but not sure what good he'll be here.
Our u23s are struggling
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on January 12, 2018, 12:20:38 AM
Charsley gone to Bolton on loan for the rest of season....... Good move for the lad

They seem to have done a really good job with Robinson
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 12, 2018, 12:24:31 AM
They seem to have done a really good job with Robinson
Yeah, could be the start of a decent link up couldn't it
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on January 15, 2018, 09:14:12 PM
beat Spurs 2-1 today
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on January 15, 2018, 09:15:39 PM
Dowell panned at the weekend
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: kramer0 on January 15, 2018, 10:09:23 PM
Even ÷zil gets panned in England and he's probably one of the five best creative players in the world.

I like Dowell but he doesn't stand a chance here.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 16, 2018, 11:44:06 PM
Anyone know much about Anthony Evans?

Scored 2 lovely goals against Spurs for the U23s the other day.

https://twitter.com/Everton/status/953275790506029058
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on January 17, 2018, 04:33:57 AM
Anyone know much about Anthony Evans?

Im guessing hes welsh.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 17, 2018, 04:39:25 AM
Im guessing hes welsh.
If kirkby has been moved over the border you'd be correct

Think he went out on loan last year, is well thought of from what I've read (bits and bobs mind you) let's hope he kicks on
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on January 17, 2018, 05:09:41 AM
Anyone know much about Anthony Evans?

Scored 2 lovely goals against Spurs for the U23s the other day.

https://twitter.com/Everton/status/953275790506029058

Good, technical player. Don't think he'll ever make it here, but can see him carving a decent enough career for himself.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on January 17, 2018, 05:55:31 AM
Is it Anthony Gordon the lad in the year group below who is supposed to be decent?

Could do with knowing if we have any ballers coming through and at what age.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 24, 2018, 12:35:53 AM
Colemams playing tonight
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: blueToffee on January 24, 2018, 12:45:53 AM
Colemams playing tonight

Just saw that, good luck to him.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lincs Toffee on January 24, 2018, 01:11:36 AM
Garbutt looking better than Cuco already .
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 24, 2018, 01:13:48 AM
Jagielka commentating is awful, calls all of them by shortened names. Morgs, Garbs.... ugh
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lincs Toffee on January 24, 2018, 01:15:21 AM
Both Coleman and Garbutt getting forward pinging in crosses , oh how we miss that
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 24, 2018, 01:29:40 AM
Garbutt looking better than Cuco already .

It's a bit of a different level isn't it
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Escla on January 24, 2018, 01:30:05 AM
I must be watching a different game ? Absolute shite what Iím seeing, walking around (both sides) occasional ping upfield, Garbutt absolutely shite.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lincs Toffee on January 24, 2018, 01:34:11 AM
Yeah he was good for the first 5 mins , must have peaked early

1 up
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Juanito on January 24, 2018, 01:41:41 AM
I must be watching a different game ? Absolute shite what Iím seeing, walking around (both sides) occasional ping upfield, Garbutt absolutely shite.

How can I watch?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Gash on January 24, 2018, 01:43:13 AM
How can I watch?

Just search Everton on Youtube.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Escla on January 24, 2018, 01:44:55 AM
How can I watch?

Just go to the O.S and click on the link.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: School of Science on January 24, 2018, 01:56:53 AM
Nathan Broadhead has stood out for me and scored a fine goal, great to hear Coleman's name and a fine sliding challenge from him earlier on.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lincs Toffee on January 24, 2018, 02:07:16 AM
Sambou makes it 2 with a lovely strike
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lincs Toffee on January 24, 2018, 02:17:40 AM
Comfortable 60 mins from Seamus, looked pretty good considering the amount of time out
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on January 24, 2018, 02:36:35 AM
Even ÷zil gets panned in England and he's probably one of the five best creative players in the world.

I like Dowell but he doesn't stand a chance here.

correct that - this annoys me about Everton fans, how quickly we judge and turn against some players, deeming them shite after hardly any time

Sandro - 13 Games - 480 minutes - shite
Klaassen - 10 Games - 435 minutes - shite
Bolasie - 18 games - 1,300 minutes borderline shite

the list can go on, why cant we give any a fair crack let the settle and get used to the country and/or league. Tosun probably hasnt got long before he's deemed shite for all eternity
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: sam of the south on January 24, 2018, 03:36:40 AM
Comfortable 60 mins from Seamus, looked pretty good considering the amount of time out

Brilliant 👌🏼

How did Garbutt look?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on January 24, 2018, 03:41:07 AM
Brilliant 👌🏼

How did Garbutt look?

Coiffured.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: sam of the south on January 24, 2018, 03:51:29 AM
Coiffured.

I don't doubt that.

How about his defending, crossing, pace, and positional play?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: kewns23 on January 24, 2018, 07:13:20 AM
I don't doubt that.

How about his defending, crossing, pace, and positional play?


I only seen first half and he looked good
Getting in good space and one or two decent balls a few wild ones.

Itís hard to tell as the opposition was poor however I thinks itís worth giving him ago... ironically West Brom would of been better than the games coming up
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: mikey_blue on January 24, 2018, 05:09:00 PM
https://twitter.com/everton/status/956117358241820672
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on January 24, 2018, 05:23:43 PM
Anyone else wince when they first saw that, steady on Seamus lad.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Escla on January 24, 2018, 05:28:35 PM
Anyone else wince when they first saw that, steady on Seamus lad.

Exactly, great that he is clearly not afraid to go in though.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 24, 2018, 05:33:12 PM
Anyone else wince when they first saw that, steady on Seamus lad.
Best thing that could have happened to him, an early tackle with no time to think
Some of our fans* would have fewmed** had he pulled out

*Mostly twitter bellends
** Twitter fume, it genuinely serves no puropse
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lincs Toffee on January 24, 2018, 06:05:48 PM
I don't doubt that.

How about his defending, crossing, pace, and positional play?
Pretty much as @kewns23 (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=530) says Sam really, personally he should be replacing Cuco, he took all the corners and never hit the first man, whipped some decent crosses in from open play that I'm sure Tosun or Walcott would latch on to, made runs and opened up space, ok I'm making him sound like a world beater, he isn't but he's better than what we have even if it was against shite opponents, he would give us far more balance and speed in attack down that side.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on January 25, 2018, 05:13:18 AM
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on January 25, 2018, 06:12:16 AM
Fuck it if garbutt is on the team sheet on Weds I will be a bit excited..

Also really like worried and dreading it but yeah, a bit excited.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lincs Toffee on January 25, 2018, 03:29:45 PM
Fuck it if garbutt is on the team sheet on Weds I will be a bit excited..

Also really like worried and dreading it but yeah, a bit excited.
I think it will certainly change the dynamics of the side, well if fucking should do!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 26, 2018, 05:18:30 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5314289/Evertons-Fraser-Hornby-solution-Toffees.html
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on January 26, 2018, 06:58:32 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5314289/Evertons-Fraser-Hornby-solution-Toffees.html

I thought he was well off the standard in the Europa League tie.

Broadhead looked a better player.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on January 26, 2018, 07:50:00 PM
Formby looked all-at-sea.

Nowhere near ready.
Title: The u23 thread
Post by: kramer0 on January 26, 2018, 09:40:26 PM
I thought he looked useful that day but I agree that heís not ready.

ďRuns all dayĒ isn't going to improve us at that position. Calvert-Lewin is the king of chasing lost causes.

What we really need is better service to the forwards from midfield and wide areas.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 30, 2018, 12:39:06 AM
Mathis has joined Northampton on loan and strong rumours that unsworth will be next Oxford manager
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on January 30, 2018, 01:43:10 AM
Mathis has joined Northampton on loan and strong rumours that unsworth will be next Oxford manager

That would be boss.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: School of Science on January 30, 2018, 02:11:20 AM
I thought he was well off the standard in the Europa League tie.

Broadhead looked a better player.

Thought that myself, looked more dangerous in his cameo role, more skillfuller, more pace and movement. Watched the U 23's the other night he looked good in that to and again very quick.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 30, 2018, 03:37:01 AM
Hornby and Sambou both scoring in the 2-1 win against Chelsea tonight.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on January 30, 2018, 06:39:07 PM
Hornby and Sambou both scoring in the 2-1 win against Chelsea tonight.

Nice little double act flourishing yet again.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: sam of the south on January 30, 2018, 06:43:12 PM
Nice little double act flourishing yet again.

Aww, Vaughan & Vic  :hug:
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on February 03, 2018, 03:57:55 AM
Unsworth off to Oxford
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 03, 2018, 03:59:53 AM
Unsworth off to Oxford
Got 4s
Nice one
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on February 03, 2018, 09:07:36 PM
nice skill by Sambou



Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on February 05, 2018, 03:43:15 PM
https://twitter.com/OUFC_/status/959919041199640581


Edit: I'm aware he's not one of ours anymore, just a funny vid.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bluestevie on February 06, 2018, 01:59:26 AM
U23 side 2-0 down at HT v Arsenal, Funes Mori making his first appearance since his injury
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Goaljira on February 06, 2018, 03:00:24 AM
Lost 4-0.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on February 06, 2018, 04:56:14 AM
Funes mori getting 45 mins. Going off recent history heís close to returning to action then.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Gash on February 06, 2018, 05:01:44 AM
Funes mori getting 45 mins. Going off recent history heís close to returning to action then.

Allardyce will say he's "a considerable way off" before starting him at the weekend.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on February 06, 2018, 05:03:33 AM
Get him in with mangala.

Be a laugh that.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on February 06, 2018, 05:06:59 AM
Get him in with mangala.

Be a laugh that.

Police Academy level stuff that
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on February 06, 2018, 05:16:05 AM
Police Academy level stuff that

Haha.

I actually like Mori me. Maybe a bit blind to his faults though.

Out of the centre halves we have, I'd say he's probably one of the better ones.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ravardo on February 06, 2018, 05:40:44 AM
45mins you say that will be him straight on the team sheet then going by sams other decisions
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on February 06, 2018, 05:59:22 AM
Haha.

I actually like Mori me. Maybe a bit blind to his faults though.

Out of the centre halves we have, I'd say he's probably one of the better ones.

Haha yeah heís alright. Has some good qualities and does some stuff well. Wonder how his passing and moving through the lines compares to the others.

Would be an absolute caper that though.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lincs Toffee on February 06, 2018, 02:52:02 PM
I can see him getting on the end of a lot of Sigurdsson's crosses and free kicks.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on February 06, 2018, 02:54:31 PM
Mori over Williams every day, the mad Argentinean bastard
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Rodenplav64 on February 06, 2018, 11:50:19 PM
Be good to see him try a Kung Fu kick , miss it and then see Mangala try and clear the same ball but use the wrong foot and fall over . The ball then just trickles past Pickford who has been sent the wrong way by both CH's efforts .
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Confucius on February 07, 2018, 12:14:52 AM
Love Mori. Good player. better than what we have currently playing besides Holgate.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on February 07, 2018, 12:17:35 AM
Iíd like to see us go three at the back before the end of the season with Williams, Mangala and Mori. Wouldnít miss that for the world.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on February 07, 2018, 12:21:15 AM
Iíd like to see us go three at the back before the end of the season with Williams, Mangala and Mori. Wouldnít miss that for the world.

Big Sam would get hauled in for match fixing.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Goaljira on February 07, 2018, 02:19:21 AM
Iíd like to see us go three at the back before the end of the season with Williams, Mangala and Mori. Wouldnít miss that for the world.
Home derby nailed on.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bob Sacamano on February 07, 2018, 04:23:05 AM
Home derby nailed on.

We still have another derby to play?! 🤦‍♂️
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ravardo on February 07, 2018, 10:46:59 PM
Unsworth has knocked oxford back
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: gizzblue on February 07, 2018, 11:56:10 PM
Unsworth has knocked oxford back
Might be needed here before the season is up .😅
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lincs Toffee on February 08, 2018, 12:12:23 AM
Might be needed here before the season is up .
As soon as I heard this on the way home from work my first thought was Ďwhat does he knowí
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on February 08, 2018, 12:56:24 AM
Love Mori. Good player. better than what we have currently playing besides Holgate.
.....................no he isn't . He's in the same category as Robles ,a walking disaster. Makes me nervous when his name is on the teamsheet.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Confucius on February 08, 2018, 01:00:27 AM
.....................no he isn't . He's in the same category as Robles ,a walking disaster. Makes me nervous when his name is on the teamsheet.

Having Jagielka, Williams, Keane, MArtina and Mangala fills you with so much confidence does it?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: ajax_andy on February 08, 2018, 01:46:47 AM
Might be needed here before the season is up .😅

Thats exactly what my first thought was too 😂
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on February 08, 2018, 01:50:43 AM
Having Jagielka, Williams, Keane, MArtina and Mangala fills you with so much confidence does it?
............not exactly , but as bad as the above mentioned are ,bringing in a clown like Funes-Mori will just make matters worse.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ridge on February 08, 2018, 03:31:50 AM
I reckon we should get Unsworth to coach, pick the team, tactics, manage the side, develop players etc. Get Allardyce back in the stands, rubbing his hands and giving thumbs up, threatening to take back over if the players underperform.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on February 08, 2018, 04:38:51 AM
As soon as I heard this on the way home from work my first thought was ‘what does he know’
.............maybe Rhino didn't fancy moving to Oxford .He has a bit of form for not moving from the North ,didn't settle at West Ham , signed for Villa but said the commute was too long and never played. Got himself a move back to Everton. 
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on February 08, 2018, 04:42:13 AM
.............maybe Rhino didn't fancy moving to Oxford .He has a bit of form for not moving from the North ,didn't settle at West Ham , signed for Villa but said the commute was too long and never played. Got himself a move back to Everton. 

The Cotswolds arenít really a shithole though.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on February 08, 2018, 04:22:16 PM
Lashed a bit of cash on him to go as I was sure he’d be looking for a chance to prove himself after this season, apparently not.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on February 09, 2018, 01:35:53 AM
Oxford are a well run club with a decent budget for that level, by all accounts. Wouldíve been a great opportunity. Iím sure how much more he can learn managing kids who are eager to impress him. He needs to manage a dressing room of senior professionals and all the dynamics that are involved.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on February 09, 2018, 01:58:16 PM
Oxford are a well run club with a decent budget for that level, by all accounts. Wouldíve been a great opportunity. Iím sure how much more he can learn managing kids who are eager to impress him. He needs to manage a dressing room of senior professionals and all the dynamics that are involved.

Very disappointed.

Although I did see a rumour on oxford twitter that said ledson canít stand him, and handed a transfer request in when he heard Unsworth was wanted, so maybe their board have flapped it at that.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ridge on February 09, 2018, 11:36:48 PM
Very disappointed.

Although I did see a rumour on oxford twitter that said ledson canít stand him, and handed a transfer request in when he heard Unsworth was wanted, so maybe their board have flapped it at that.

I'd read the idea was that it might keep Ledson at Oxford, as he had or was going to hand in a transfer request.  :snigger:
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on February 10, 2018, 12:02:34 AM
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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: School of Science on February 10, 2018, 11:25:18 PM
On a good note our U18's stuffed Stevie me's Liverpool today 3-1 at Finch Farm. That puts us second in the league and as an added bonus that was Gerrards fourth defeat on the bounce  ;D
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Everton Mint on February 11, 2018, 01:48:24 AM
On a good note our U18's stuffed Stevie me's Liverpool today 3-1 at Finch Farm. That puts us second in the league and as an added bonus that was Gerrards fourth defeat on the bounce  ;D
Now one point behind Man U with a game in hand... and play Utd next.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Everton Mint on February 11, 2018, 01:50:14 AM
Nice goal by Tom Scully !

https://twitter.com/EvertonNewsFeed/status/962303381380485120
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jamokachi on February 11, 2018, 05:08:20 AM
Robles in goal there.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: sam of the south on February 11, 2018, 05:12:18 AM
Nice goal by Tom Scully !

https://twitter.com/EvertonNewsFeed/status/962303381380485120

Great commentary from down a tunnel, that
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: sam of the south on February 11, 2018, 05:16:26 AM
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Love Kenny's gnashers 😁

He's such a lad 👌🏼
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Everton Mint on February 11, 2018, 05:04:26 PM
Nice goal by Tom Scully !

U18's player Tom Scully is the son of my work-mate and they are a great Evertonian family. They were absolutely buzzing that he scored and against the Reds who released him two years ago !  :snigger:
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 11, 2018, 05:24:40 PM
U18's player Tom Scully is the son of my work-mate and they are a great Evertonian family. They were absolutely buzzing that he scored and against the Reds who released him two years ago !  :snigger:
He's highly rated on my version of fm
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Everton Mint on February 11, 2018, 11:00:48 PM
He's highly rated on my version of fm

Hopefully rightly so, especially as its coming up to the time of the decision whether he gets a pro-contract. Headlines like today wont do him any harm !

(https://i.imgur.com/vxVCv9X.jpg?1)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on February 12, 2018, 07:44:21 PM
Funes-Mori and Holgate both staring against Barnsley this afternoon
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 12, 2018, 07:48:58 PM
Funes-Mori and Holgate both staring against Barnsley this afternoon
Has Holgate been injured or is he dropped to the u23's?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on February 12, 2018, 07:51:08 PM
Has Holgate been injured or is he dropped to the u23's?

Probably the latter, he hasn't featured much since the Derby game has he
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on February 12, 2018, 08:12:45 PM
Probably the latter, he hasn't featured much since the Derby game has he

he got dropped after WBA, cos Sam thinks Rondon bossed him.

Holgate made some vital tackles and interceptions in that match, a lesser everton centre back would have been made to pay by Rondon.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on February 12, 2018, 09:19:42 PM
he got dropped after WBA, cos Sam thinks Rondon bossed him.

Holgate made some vital tackles and interceptions in that match, a lesser everton centre back would have been made to pay by Rondon.

Well Rondon is twice the size of him so not surprising a young defender had a tough time against an experienced grock of a striker. He did miss a couple of sitters like but it's no reason to send the lad to play with the kids.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lincs Toffee on February 12, 2018, 09:24:12 PM
Funes-Mori and Holgate both staring against Barnsley this afternoon
Is this being shown anywhere mate, last one was on FB wasn't it?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: kramer0 on February 12, 2018, 09:28:43 PM
I don't understand Allardyce's treatment of Holgate. It's an admittedly small sample size but he was our best defender during his run at CB and did nothing to warrant being dropped.

It's irresponsible, both short-term and long-term, to give minutes to Williams instead of Holgate.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 12, 2018, 09:41:41 PM
I bet on Everton...and we're winning.   This is mighty strange.  :D
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 12, 2018, 09:42:07 PM
I don't understand Allardyce's treatment of Holgate. It's an admittedly small sample size but he was our best defender during his run at CB and did nothing to warrant being dropped.

It's irresponsible, both short-term and long-term, to give minutes to Williams instead of Holgate.

He has to make sure that we are "mathmatically safe".......

Glad to hear rooney and Pickford come out in recent days and say they're aiming for 7th though.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 12, 2018, 09:58:17 PM
Clean sheet, Funes Mori and Holgate!  Won me $275, as well.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: plumber on February 12, 2018, 10:14:22 PM
So now we are slagging off Big Fat Sam for freezing out poor little Holgate?

He has played 2 games in the prem under Koeman (both as RB), 2 under Unsworth and 7 under Allardyce.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 12, 2018, 10:18:42 PM
So now we are slagging off Big Fat Sam for freezing out poor little Holgate?

He has played 2 games in the prem under Koeman (both as RB), 2 under Unsworth and 7 under Allardyce.

They'll find fault with anything and everything. He's not been very good, granted none of our centre halves have but our manager is allowed to rate whoever he rates. It's not like holgate has done much to justify a place in the team
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on February 12, 2018, 10:25:41 PM
So now we are slagging off Big Fat Sam for freezing out poor little Holgate?

He has played 2 games in the prem under Koeman (both as RB), 2 under Unsworth and 7 under Allardyce.

Yeah we are because he should at least be ahead of Ashley Williams in the pecking order.

He performed very well, yet hes now nowhere to be seen. Personally think it's a poor way to treat somebody who was performing to a good level.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 12, 2018, 10:25:44 PM
They'll find fault with anything and everything.


hahhahahhhahahahaaha pot, kettle from the strangest moaner on the forum.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on February 12, 2018, 10:30:44 PM
what score did we win,

see the u18 won the derby against gerrards RS  3-1
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 12, 2018, 10:39:21 PM
what score did we win,

see the u18 won the derby against gerrards RS  3-1

1-nil.

And yes, I believe that Holgate has been the best of a sorry lot at CB, in addition to our youngest.  That combo means he should be starting at least almost every week, getting used to playing his natural position at the Prem level.

Preferably not next to Ashley Williams.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on February 12, 2018, 10:41:14 PM
So now we are slagging off Big Fat Sam for freezing out poor little Holgate?

He has played 2 games in the prem under Koeman (both as RB), 2 under Unsworth and 7 under Allardyce.

Not slagging Sam off at all, Holgate is a far better player than Ashley Williams though
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on February 12, 2018, 11:14:08 PM
1-nil.

And yes, I believe that Holgate has been the best of a sorry lot at CB, in addition to our youngest.  That combo means he should be starting at least almost every week, getting used to playing his natural position at the Prem level.

Preferably not next to Ashley Williams.


well you would think that, seeing as Sam Allardyce is saying this season is over and build towards next season, if he actually wants to do that, the youngsters need to fucking play. not players who the fans dont want to see, or who wont be playing week in week out next season. ( the Morgan Schneiderlins and Ashley Williams of this world)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Confucius on February 12, 2018, 11:17:24 PM
So now we are slagging off Big Fat Sam for freezing out poor little Holgate?

He has played 2 games in the prem under Koeman (both as RB), 2 under Unsworth and 7 under Allardyce.

But that is the point. Why drop a kid who has been your best Cb so far. Why destroy what should be our futures confidence all because your training analytics show that Williams headed the ball further than Holgate from a corner. Bunch of crap
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on February 12, 2018, 11:22:22 PM

well you would think that, seeing as Sam Allardyce is saying this season is over and build towards next season, if he actually wants to do that, the youngsters need to fucking play. not players who the fans dont want to see, or who wont be playing week in week out next season. ( the Morgan Schneiderlins and Ashley Williams of this world)

His whole approach seems very much geared towards making sure he gets his pay off in the summer by keeping us up. Zero risks and a £6m pension top up. Despite what he says his approach doesn't seem to be in accordance with him planning for the future, with his obsession with telling us we need to get to 40 points.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Goaljira on February 13, 2018, 12:06:03 AM
Clean sheet, Funes Mori and Holgate!  Won me $275, as well.

You bet proper money on an Everton reserve game?  Are you actually mad?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on February 13, 2018, 12:13:04 AM
Good to get Funes Mori back. Whether heís good enough is subject to debate but heís a £20m defender in this market.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 13, 2018, 12:17:46 AM
You bet proper money on an Everton reserve game?  Are you actually mad?

For one, OF COURSE I am and I'm surprised you even have to ask.

For two, I clicked on the match in my Sportsbook, and they were paying out 2.75 to 1 odds (when the score was 0-0 in 35th minute), which seemed absurdly favourable to me.  So I put down a hundred on us, what the fuck.

Is Barnsley's U23 side some kind of behemoth?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 13, 2018, 12:19:27 AM
Good to get Funes Mori back. Whether heís good enough is subject to debate but heís a £20m defender in this market.

I will give Allardyce a tip of my cap if he's actually being strategic and plans to play Holgate and Funes Mori together the last 6-8 weeks of the season.

Would bet heavily against that, though.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on February 13, 2018, 12:25:53 AM
We really do have the biggest selection of average CBs going.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 13, 2018, 12:29:06 AM
We really do have the biggest selection of average CBs going.

optimist!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Goaljira on February 13, 2018, 01:09:57 AM
For one, OF COURSE I am and I'm surprised you even have to ask.

For two, I clicked on the match in my Sportsbook, and they were paying out 2.75 to 1 odds (when the score was 0-0 in 35th minute), which seemed absurdly favourable to me.  So I put down a hundred on us, what the fuck.

Is Barnsley's U23 side some kind of behemoth?

No idea if they are or aren't, but the fact you didnt either and risked $100 on it shows how crazy it was!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 13, 2018, 01:26:39 AM
No idea if they are or aren't, but the fact you didnt either and risked $100 on it shows how crazy it was!

I am mad as a hatter, and 2.75 to 1 on the backs of FuMo and Mason, my inner maniac won out.

Been on a bit of a gambling rush from Saturday's college basketball anyway, so ride the wave and whatnot.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on February 21, 2018, 04:21:11 PM
Dowell panned again
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: sam of the south on February 21, 2018, 04:37:06 PM
I don't understand Allardyce's treatment of Holgate. It's an admittedly small sample size but he was our best defender during his run at CB and did nothing to warrant being dropped.

It's irresponsible, both short-term and long-term, to give minutes to Williams instead of Holgate.

I donít think itís about form.

I think itís the fall-out and subsequent odd radio silence from the MSM regarding the Firmino incedent.

Either the club donít believe Holgate, or Holgate is pissed off at the club for not rallying behind him, or the club have bowed to pressure to Ďrestí Holgate whilst it all dies down.

It canít be because Rondon nearly scored a couple.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on February 21, 2018, 08:14:45 PM
Dowell panned again

The second half of this season was always going to tell us where he was in his development. Tough for a kid to keep up decent form for a full season in their first year.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on February 23, 2018, 01:50:06 PM
The second half of this season was always going to tell us where he was in his development. Tough for a kid to keep up decent form for a full season in their first year.

Yeah, dips happen at that age (any age I suppose). Heíd get fucking mullered if he was playing for us and disappeared though. Too much burscough not enough, er, bootle?

Re holgate : wonder how he feels the clubs has treated him. Hope the club have stood by him and all that but a bit worried tbh. I like the look of him as a player.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Everton Mint on February 24, 2018, 04:31:41 PM
Everton U18's at Man Utd at 11am in top of the table game.

Live on MUTV (loads of streams & Mobdro).

COYBB !
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 24, 2018, 06:10:56 PM
Three one down at the minute
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on February 24, 2018, 06:34:31 PM
On Dowell, it wonít help that heís playing Iím a dreadful team
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on February 25, 2018, 03:52:03 AM
On Dowell, it wonít help that heís playing Iím a dreadful team

wtf happened to forest, 4 months ago they was on fire.

@Toddacelli (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2432) 

whats the inside scoop?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 25, 2018, 03:52:42 AM
wtf happened to forest, 4 months ago they was on fire.

@Toddacelli (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2432) 

whats the inside scoop?
Nah
They either won or lost
Went on a bad run, sacked the manager and now a struggling
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on February 26, 2018, 08:11:12 PM
Nah
They either won or lost
Went on a bad run, sacked the manager and now a struggling

Exactly as @Jimmywhack (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=329) says:

They didn't draw many and it was a bit 50/50 for a while but in their last 14 before their win this weekend it's W2 D4 L8. Their wins will keep them out of the relegation zone but it looks like their losses will keep them out of the top half of the table by the end of the season.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on February 28, 2018, 12:02:18 AM
i just recall them in the first few months doing pretty well... shame it dropped off ;/ and the change of manager.. i didnt expect that.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 12:05:41 AM
Davy Klaassen getting a run-out in tonights game against Swansea.

Hope he has a good game and is given a chance in the first team soon.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on March 06, 2018, 12:21:50 AM
Davy Klaassen getting a run-out in tonights game against Swansea.

Hope he has a good game and is given a chance in the first team soon.


thank you for this.. going to try and find some streams. is it on everton fc?/youtube/twitter/facebook?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Everton Mint on March 06, 2018, 12:35:22 AM
Davy Klaassen getting a run-out in tonights game against Swansea.

Hope he has a good game and is given a chance in the first team soon.
Poor sod wouldnt be able to show anything playing with that load of frauds.

Better for him if he just gets fit and finds a better team in the summer.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 12:41:00 AM

thank you for this.. going to try and find some streams. is it on everton fc?/youtube/twitter/facebook?

Found this mate, hope it works.

https://www.swanseacity.com/news/live-tonight-everton-u23s-v-swans-u23s

Kick off is 7pm
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on March 06, 2018, 12:42:46 AM
Found this mate, hope it works.

https://www.swanseacity.com/news/live-tonight-everton-u23s-v-swans-u23s

Kick off is 7pm

#Thankyou!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 06, 2018, 01:08:59 AM
https://www.swanseacity.com/live-stream
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on March 06, 2018, 01:18:27 AM
tah Audrey.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 06, 2018, 01:22:11 AM
what a goal
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Polledreng on March 06, 2018, 01:23:01 AM
what a goal
And nice to see Klaassen celebrate with the kids
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on March 06, 2018, 01:23:14 AM
EFC official members stream not working . Watching on Swansea site.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 06, 2018, 01:24:14 AM
And nice to see Klaassen celebrate with the kids

Definitely. Really want him in the team. There is a class player in there.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on March 06, 2018, 01:30:02 AM
why is the sound so shit on the stream?

whats going on with that Camera Angle..  who scored the goal? i didnt realize i missed the goal...

im sure it was 0-0 :S i only went to the loo and back!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 01:31:33 AM
Good to also Funes More getting another game and on his birthday as well.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on March 06, 2018, 01:32:21 AM
Could do with a klaassen masterclass to begin the comeback couldnít we really.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 01:35:31 AM
why is the sound so shit on the stream?

whats going on with that Camera Angle..  who scored the goal? i didnt realize i missed the goal...

im sure it was 0-0 :S i only went to the loo and back!

Anthony Evans scored the goal.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on March 06, 2018, 01:38:26 AM
our number 5 was lucky not to get sent off..
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 01:42:02 AM
our number 5 was lucky not to get sent off..

Looking at him - he reminded me a bit of Eddie Youds with his build.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on March 06, 2018, 01:45:15 AM
cant find a team sheet.. lol

the number 5 is Morgan Feeney?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 01:47:22 AM
cant find a team sheet.. lol

the number 5 is Morgan Feeney?

Everton U23s: Mateusz Hewelt, Nathangelo Markelo, Lewis Gibson, Beni Baningime, Con Ouzounidis, Ramiro Funes Mori, Antony Evans (Capt), Davy Klaassen, Fraser Hornby, Bassala Sambou, Josh Bowler.

Subs: Joe Hilton, David Henen, Shayne Lavery, Conor Grant, Alex Denny.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 01:48:09 AM
Will be interesting to see Henen, if he gets on.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on March 06, 2018, 01:48:47 AM
tah bud, thank you.

i guess its Lewis Gibson :D
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 02:08:42 AM
Good defending by Markelo there.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on March 06, 2018, 02:23:11 AM
cant find a team sheet.. lol

the number 5 is Morgan Feeney?

Nah heís injured, itís a fella with a Greek sounding name I think
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on March 06, 2018, 02:33:58 AM
https://twitter.com/ALANMYERSMEDIA/status/970758737785999360?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 02:37:48 AM
Con Ouzounidis, with the second for the Blues
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 02:46:02 AM
Henen coming on now.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Brownie on March 06, 2018, 02:49:55 AM
How did Davy play?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on March 06, 2018, 02:52:10 AM
How did Davy play?

Only saw the first half, but he was fairly tidy and fairly anonymous in equal measures.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 02:53:35 AM
How did Davy play?

Thought he did ok, some nice touches and a couple of good interceptions.

The player who has impressed me is the right back Markelo.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 06, 2018, 02:59:29 AM
Looking at him - he reminded me a bit of Eddie Youds with his build.
That's a blast from the past
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 06, 2018, 03:00:20 AM
How did Beni play?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 03:02:48 AM
That's a blast from the past

I am always amazed by how much useless information I have stored in my head.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 03:04:09 AM
How did Beni play?

He was probably, the second best player for us for me. He tackled well and what I like about him, is that he has his head up when he has the ball and is always looking for a pass.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on March 06, 2018, 04:15:14 AM
Will be interesting to see Henen, if he gets on.

Any particular reason for that?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 06:06:15 AM
Any particular reason for that?

Basically, because I had never seen him play. As it turned out, he was only on for the end of the game and did not do much at all.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on March 06, 2018, 06:59:52 PM
Basically, because I had never seen him play. As it turned out, he was only on for the end of the game and did not do much at all.

when i've seen Henen earlier in the season,. he was pretty good, almost vital to the under 23 team... i think he was included in a Europa league squad due to his excellent for pre christmas.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 10:43:26 PM
when i've seen Henen earlier in the season,. he was pretty good, almost vital to the under 23 team... i think he was included in a Europa league squad due to his excellent for pre christmas.

Cheers @SANA_DR0 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6573) this was my first full U23 game and I was pleased to see the game and hopefully, players that will be our future. Have a heard a lot about Henen, but never seen him play.

As I posted earlier, I was impressed with Markelo and Beni and thought Davy and Funes played well.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on March 07, 2018, 12:00:14 AM
Cheers @SANA_DR0 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6573) this was my first full U23 game and I was pleased to see the game and hopefully, players that will be our future. Have a heard a lot about Henen, but never seen him play.

As I posted earlier, I was impressed with Markelo and Beni and thought Davy and Funes played well.


I watched more under 23 at the start of the season... i watched the first half last night and a bit of the second.. but im drained from everton. the only thing that excites me now is the toxic home atmosphere.

and Niasse's smile.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Everton Mint on March 08, 2018, 10:25:37 PM
ITK info re Under-18's:

Today, just 4 of the current U18 squad were given a Pro contract with Everton.

Dont know who they are yet, but there will be very many disappointed lads being released.

It's a tough world.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: stirlingblue on March 08, 2018, 10:34:12 PM
ITK info re Under-18's:

Today, just 4 of the current U18 squad were given a Pro contract with Everton.

Dont know who they are yet, but there will be very many disappointed lads being released.

It's a tough world.

Is that retention rate normal? It seems low but I canít tell without context
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Everton Mint on March 08, 2018, 10:37:33 PM
Is that retention rate normal? It seems low but I canít tell without context

It is low but I think fairly normal as there is only one team to go into (U-23's) and already 4 year-groups of players ahead of them already there. Plus any others that have been bought in...
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on March 08, 2018, 10:48:26 PM
U-18s my guesses

Mampala
Duke-McKenna
Baxter
Ouzounidis
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 08, 2018, 11:01:08 PM
How old is hornby
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on March 08, 2018, 11:09:42 PM
How old is hornby

Shit thereís note pages here.. Alex Denny, Anthony Gordon and hornby are all 18s as well...

Doesnít make sense this, these are supposed to be a good generation and are near the top of their league?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: kramer0 on March 09, 2018, 12:39:10 AM
Not exactly on topic based on the previous few posts but I saw this a few weeks ago. It's not great, at least from my point-of view.

https://www.trainingground.guru/articles/everton-youth-teams-now-more-direct,-less-sanitised (https://www.trainingground.guru/articles/everton-youth-teams-now-more-direct,-less-sanitised)

Some choice quotes:

Quote
ďThe sanitisation of Academy football Ė everything played on a lovely pitch, on the grass Ė (has changed), so that when they go to League Two on loan and donít see the ball for 10 minutes and say, ĎWhatís going on here?í they are ready because thatís English football at the lower levels so we have to prepare them for that."

Quote
ďBut weíve also got players upfront who have got to learn to win headers, who have got to learn to win flick-ons, like in the real world, so if we play out from the back all the time these centre-forwards arenít getting that work."

It seems regressive to develop players so they'll be comfortable in League Two if they go on loan. And to think of flick-ons as the "real world." It's only a reality for crap teams in England. Nobody who's actually good plays that route one garbage.

I know he mentions playing out from the back and going direct but really, there's no point bothering with the latter. Our academy players are never going to reach the level we need them at if half of their development time is spent learning crap football.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on March 09, 2018, 12:53:30 AM
Weíre clearly developing a team that could stand on its own two feet in prem.


In 1992
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Goaljira on March 09, 2018, 01:31:24 AM
Not exactly on topic based on the previous few posts but I saw this a few weeks ago. It's not great, at least from my point-of view.

https://www.trainingground.guru/articles/everton-youth-teams-now-more-direct,-less-sanitised (https://www.trainingground.guru/articles/everton-youth-teams-now-more-direct,-less-sanitised)

Some choice quotes:

It seems regressive to develop players so they'll be comfortable in League Two if they go on loan. And to think of flick-ons as the "real world." It's only a reality for crap teams in England. Nobody who's actually good plays that route one garbage.

I know he mentions playing out from the back and going direct but really, there's no point bothering with the latter. Our academy players are never going to reach the level we need them at if half of their development time is spent learning crap football.

Catch-22 though, isnt it.  English football is fucked for developing highest quality youth players, and the national team will always suffer for it.

Barring the wunderkids who are physically/technically able to go straight into the first team at 18, most will never develop to a higher level if no one will take them on loan because they're no good at playing lower league style football.  And they'll never develop just staying in an academy not playing real football.

The only hope you've really got is loaning them out abroad, but without an official link to another club then it'll be hard as theyve got their own players to develop as maybe players from better teams from that country already more suited to the style?

So other than 'B' teams in the lower divisions or parent clubs who take groups of kids en masse then its not going to work, and that won't happen because it'd mean losing more established teams from the league or small clubs losing their 'identities'(Which is an absolutely understandable issue for their fans to have).

Like I said, fucked.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 09, 2018, 02:22:10 AM
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-defender-tyias-browning-miss-14385296
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Gash on March 09, 2018, 04:25:02 AM
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-defender-tyias-browning-miss-14385296

I read as far as Darron Gibson being injured (again) then couldn't be bothered with the Echo's adverts slowing my computer down to a stop.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 09, 2018, 04:44:30 AM
I read as far as Darron Gibson being injured (again) then couldn't be bothered with the Echo's adverts slowing my computer down to a stop.
Browning out injured. Again.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: van der Meyde on March 09, 2018, 07:38:09 PM
I know he mentions playing out from the back and going direct but really, there's no point bothering with the latter. Our academy players are never going to reach the level we need them at if half of their development time is spent learning crap football.
We need to get players ready for first team football.

If we're going to appoint managers like Koeman and Allardyce, then frankly this is an excellent approach...
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Polledreng on March 09, 2018, 08:27:06 PM
We need to get players ready for first team football.

If we're going to appoint managers like Koeman and Allardyce, then frankly this is an excellent approach...
Hope we will stop appointing managers like Ronald and Sam
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Everton Mint on March 11, 2018, 03:44:37 AM
If you watch the U-18's they play some excellent football.  The skill, intensity and speed of the games is quite amazing.

Many more of these lads could make it at Everton but for the fact that we, like the rest of the PL, need instant results and are buying in the finished article from all over the world.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toffee1 on March 11, 2018, 06:25:52 PM
Scroll down and you will get live footage of the game against Sunderland U23

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-news-transfer-rumours-live-14395519
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Everton Mint on March 28, 2018, 04:39:41 PM
Good news... the first of those Scholars who didnt get offered a contract by Everton has been offered one by a Championship club.

More info when if/when he accepts...
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Rodenplav64 on March 28, 2018, 05:28:37 PM
If you watch the U-18's they play some excellent football.  The skill, intensity and speed of the games is quite amazing.

Many more of these lads could make it at Everton but for the fact that we, like the rest of the PL, need instant results and are buying in the finished article from all over the world.

If we are buying the finished article how come they need a season to acclimatise prove unsuited to the league ? At least you know most of your U23 side are suited to the league but unless you play them you won't know . Holgate , Davies and Kenny are well capable of covering and in time being first choice .
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Everton Mint on March 29, 2018, 12:46:41 AM
If we are buying the finished article how come they need a season to acclimatise prove unsuited to the league ? At least you know most of your U23 side are suited to the league but unless you play them you won't know . Holgate , Davies and Kenny are well capable of covering and in time being first choice .
It has only been Davies that had cemented a place in the team. Others are just covering as you say and as soon as the injured player is fit they are out again.

The other issue, as ever, is experience. Young players can be good enough physically and technically but they dont have the games of an older player. This is what limits a lot of their chances. The fact that Everton have been struggling as a team anyway makes their involvement even less likely.

To be fair we do give more chances than most but the queue of players ahead of the kids is always going to be an issue.

The lad I know isnt so bothered about leaving Everton as he wants and needs games. His chances here would be very limited.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on March 29, 2018, 01:37:49 AM
What position roughly does he play @Everton Mint (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3381)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bally on March 29, 2018, 01:30:30 PM
What position roughly does he play @Everton Mint (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3381)
Reverse cowgirl
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Everton Mint on March 31, 2018, 07:34:00 PM
What position roughly does he play @Everton Mint (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3381)
Centre-mid.

He's back at Everton for now after scoring in his trial game.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2018, 07:37:23 PM
100 Ameri-quid on the baby Blues at +275 looking real solid!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 01, 2018, 11:16:24 PM
Lost 3-4 to city.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on April 08, 2018, 08:52:59 PM
The DCL chance fairly typical of what Iíve been saying about him for a while.

Did brilliantly when he came on, but when he gets a chance to finish the game he tries to finesse it into the side netting when really he should just make sure and bury it.

I donít think heís a bad finisher - I think heís affected heavily by overthinking his decisions in game. Not instinctual, every finish looks training ground to me, rather than a hungry reflex.

Hopefully will improve with guidance but will be a real sign of lack of progress if our options up top next year are as weak as they have been this year.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: gizzblue on April 08, 2018, 10:02:13 PM
DCL  should be early cup rounds starter and last twenty mins only till he improves .
Title: The u23 thread
Post by: kramer0 on April 08, 2018, 10:28:23 PM
There's only so much young players can improve without playing.

This is why, despite uncertainty about how good they can actually be, I'd have had Holgate, Davies, and Calvert-Lewin playing as many minutes as possible in the second half of this season. Those three rarely look out of place when called into action against senior pros. I think you need to invest minutes in young players like that, especially when you're not competing for anything. That's a big part of how you find the Kanes, Allis, and Rashfords of the world.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Confucius on April 08, 2018, 11:24:20 PM
There's only so much young players can improve without playing.

This is why, despite uncertainty about how good they can actually be, I'd have had Holgate, Davies, and Calvert-Lewin playing as many minutes as possible in the second half of this season. Those three rarely look out of place when called into action against senior pros. I think you need to invest minutes in young players like that, especially when you're not competing for anything. That's a big part of how you find the Kanes, Allis, and Rashfords of the world.

They have to be able to hit the target from 6 yards out and not miss by about 10 with the goal at their mercy. He literally canít score no matter how easy the chance.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on April 08, 2018, 11:52:14 PM
There's only so much young players can improve without playing.

This is why, despite uncertainty about how good they can actually be, I'd have had Holgate, Davies, and Calvert-Lewin playing as many minutes as possible in the second half of this season. Those three rarely look out of place when called into action against senior pros. I think you need to invest minutes in young players like that, especially when you're not competing for anything. That's a big part of how you find the Kanes, Allis, and Rashfords of the world.

I agree. Nothing to be gained by wasting minutes on finished players.

Do not agree with @Confucius (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=196) - heís scored this year so thatís not literally true is it. Itís definitely a gap in his game but itís nothing to write him off over just yet.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on April 09, 2018, 12:34:04 AM
I agree. Nothing to be gained by wasting minutes on finished players.

Do not agree with @Confucius (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=196) - heís scored this year so thatís not literally true is it. Itís definitely a gap in his game but itís nothing to write him off over just yet.

People seem desperate to write him off.

Even when he only just broke into the team people were saying he offers nothing.

He's improved massively over the last 12 months and I expect that to continue.

He missed a sitter, yes, but no need to be writing him off.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Silas on April 09, 2018, 12:42:12 AM
I see more potential in him than Davies right now but it's ridiculous to be talking about either not making it here at this stage.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on April 09, 2018, 12:42:17 AM
4 goals and 6 assists in 31 league matches (18 starts) when he's only just turned 21 is alright.

Especially considering this has been an ultra negative campaign in terms of performances, style and results.

Kane only made 10 league appearances by the time he was 21 and scored 3 goals with 0 assists.

Does that mean DCL will be better than Kane? Obviously not. It does show he's actually progressing quite well though.


Edit: He's also got incredible abs.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: cantoffee on April 09, 2018, 12:46:00 AM
Very sexy and must be absolutely drowning in pussy.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Silas on April 09, 2018, 12:46:16 AM
4 goals and 6 assists in 31 league matches (18 starts) when he's only just turned 21 is alright.

Especially considering this has been an ultra negative campaign in terms of performances, style and results.

Kane only made 10 league appearances by the time he was 21 and scored 3 goals with 0 assists.

Does that mean DCL will be better than Kane? Obviously not. It does show he's actually progressing quite well though.


Edit: He's also got incredible abs.

I've got incredible IBS but you don't see anyone banging on about it.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Goaljira on April 09, 2018, 12:53:09 AM
Remember that DCL started the season at right back too.  He's been shunted all over the field all season by 3 different managers.

Give him a chance.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheBlackWatchFanzine on April 09, 2018, 01:39:12 AM
DCL  should be early cup rounds starter and last twenty mins only till he improves .

I agree - he's done well this season at times, give the circumstances, and I thought he did ok when he came on yesterday, but it's a damning indictment of our player recruitment that he's had to play as many games as he has given his inexperience.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ridge on April 09, 2018, 04:49:08 AM
I think with DCL's finishing, its a common trait for most young forwards. When they know they have minutes and support, they are less likely to panic or snatch at chances.

A better manager would have worked with him individually and improved him far more. Younger coaches are far more likely to customise development.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Confucius on April 09, 2018, 12:13:34 PM
All good points. He just fails to even get close with most of his shooting. Even Cenkís 1st goal of the brace he scored was because DCL missed an absolute sitter. You canít teach a striker to score. Itís natural and instinctive. He just doesnít have it. Will be very good at everything else besides his most important job.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: howard1334 on April 10, 2018, 12:51:47 AM
4 goals and 6 assists in 31 league matches (18 starts) when he's only just turned 21 is alright.

Especially considering this has been an ultra negative campaign in terms of performances, style and results.

Kane only made 10 league appearances by the time he was 21 and scored 3 goals with 0 assists.

Does that mean DCL will be better than Kane? Obviously not. It does show he's actually progressing quite well though.


Edit: He's also got incredible abs.

While I am a bit of a stat head myself, in this case, I think the stats are actually misleading -- making it seem as though DCL has performed better than he actually has. I am not as confident as others that he will be progressing.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toffee1 on April 10, 2018, 01:00:40 AM
Stream of the game

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on April 10, 2018, 01:04:35 AM
While I am a bit of a stat head myself, in this case, I think the stats are actually misleading -- making it seem as though DCL has performed better than he actually has. I am not as confident as others that he will be progressing.

Lies, damned lies and statistics.

Heís had a solid season in what has been an absolute mess of a season in years.

Personally think heíll become a really good player under an ambitious manager.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 10, 2018, 01:23:12 AM
Lies, damned lies and statistics.

He's had a solid season in what has been an absolute mess of a season in years.

Personally think he'll become a really good player under an ambitious manager.
I'm starting to think his versatility will be his down fall
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on April 10, 2018, 01:42:06 AM
Howís Lookman doing at RBL? He getting much game time?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Silas on April 10, 2018, 01:47:07 AM
I'm starting to think his versatility will be his down fall

Shades of Anichebe
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on April 10, 2018, 02:00:57 AM
All good points. He just fails to even get close with most of his shooting. Even Cenk’s 1st goal of the brace he scored was because DCL missed an absolute sitter. You can’t teach a striker to score. It’s natural and instinctive. He just doesn’t have it. Will be very good at everything else besides his most important job.

I think that's the key though isn't it. He's not a striker really, he's more of a forward player who sometimes gets in and around the box and will bag a goal every now and then.

He's just not the player Kane is as when he was coming through he got dogs abuse from shooting miserably from anywhere and got shunted down the leagues to hopefully refine it, which he did. DCL has good technique, athletic physique, a willing runner but you won't find him in and around the area looking like he's desperate to get on the scoresheet. Maybe it'll come with time and experience.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Confucius on April 10, 2018, 02:16:13 AM
I think that's the key though isn't it. He's not a striker really, he's more of a forward player who sometimes gets in and around the box and will bag a goal every now and then.

He's just not the player Kane is as when he was coming through he got dogs abuse from shooting miserably from anywhere and got shunted down the leagues to hopefully refine it, which he did. DCL has good technique, athletic physique, a willing runner but you won't find him in and around the area looking like he's desperate to get on the scoresheet. Maybe it'll come with time and experience.

Whatís the point then? A forward player who plays like a defensive midfielder but canít play midfielder.

He needs to add goals to his game. Otherwise he wonít make it as a premier league player.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 10, 2018, 02:21:46 AM
Shades of Anichebe
Without being made of paper mache
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GLewis on April 10, 2018, 02:31:58 AM
Howís Lookman doing at RBL? He getting much game time?

On the bench tonight.

Think after the first few games thatís what heís been limited to, although thatís more than he might have got here...
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 10, 2018, 02:36:15 AM
Was absolutely the wrong move for lookman you go on loan to get minutes. Been a wasted opportunity for him.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on April 10, 2018, 02:59:38 AM
Was absolutely the wrong move for lookman you go on loan to get minutes. Been a wasted opportunity for him.

Only himself to blame. Silly sod.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 10, 2018, 03:00:50 AM
Only himself to blame. Silly sod.

Thereís ambition then thereís delusion. He should have gone and dominated the championship rather than not played for a quality side.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 10, 2018, 03:03:07 AM
They should have given him a go tonight.  What they tried...ain't work at all.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on April 10, 2018, 03:40:43 AM
Good on him for wanting to test himself in a foreign league at his age.

Not much he could've learnt in the championship that he doesn't already know.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 10, 2018, 03:46:13 AM
Good on him for wanting to test himself in a foreign league at his age.

Not much he could've learnt in the championship that he doesn't already know.

They go on loan to get minutes. He needed to pick a side he'd have a bigger role for. It was pretty much tied on that wouldn't happen with this move.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ross on April 10, 2018, 04:08:37 AM
Heís got more league minutes for RB Leipzig this season than he has for us.

Heís been involved in 6 of the 8 league games theyíve had since he got there.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 10, 2018, 04:13:38 AM
Heís got more league minutes for RB Leipzig this season than he has for us.

Heís been involved in 6 of the 8 league games theyíve had since he got there.

Granted but I'd rather have seen him playing a vital role at a championship club rather than stay here or be in Germany
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ross on April 10, 2018, 04:20:35 AM
Granted but I'd rather have seen him playing a vital role at a championship club rather than stay here or be in Germany

Heís getting ďminutesĒ like you say you wanted him to get but at a much higher standard than the one you believe he should be playing at while surrounded by better players and learning from better coaches.

Youíre making out like heís sat on his arse eating a bratwurst every game.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on April 10, 2018, 04:21:27 AM
Shani tarasaj played today.

What's gone on with him?

We also lost 4-0 to West Ham.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on April 10, 2018, 04:23:29 AM
Good on him for wanting to test himself in a foreign league at his age.

Not much he could've learnt in the championship that he doesn't already know.
He's never played in the championship. He's hardly played in the Premier League. All his experience has been at a lower level, he needs to start racking up some minutes somewhere soon if he's going to have a crack at a decent career.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on April 10, 2018, 04:27:58 AM
Lies, damned lies and statistics.

Heís had a solid season in what has been an absolute mess of a season in years.

Personally think heíll become a really good player under an ambitious manager.

Tall, fast, good technique.

I think heíll be absolutely fine, with a slim chance of being very good.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: themilkycoffees on April 10, 2018, 09:27:23 PM
He's never played in the championship. He's hardly played in the Premier League. All his experience has been at a lower level, he needs to start racking up some minutes somewhere soon if he's going to have a crack at a decent career.

He did play almost a full season in the Championship in 2015-16. If he was at Spurs/Arsenal/Liverpool, he'd been involved in the first team nearly every week. He'll have a great career. Whether that's here or somewhere else is another matter.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 21, 2018, 04:54:08 AM
Interesting

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-u23s-player-ratings-vs-14558289
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 21, 2018, 09:23:45 PM
at least the shite can  no longer win the title,  Arsenal  won it laaast night
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toffee1 on May 31, 2018, 12:21:51 AM
https://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/2018/may/30052018-richie-wellens-on-jose-baxter-agreeing-terms/
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 31, 2018, 12:27:43 AM
https://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/2018/may/30052018-richie-wellens-on-jose-baxter-agreeing-terms/

Good for him. Hopefully hes ready to make a real go of his career now
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toffee1 on July 11, 2018, 09:59:27 PM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1017032771766751232
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on July 11, 2018, 10:34:46 PM
Also lavery and Hornby both signed new deals
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 12, 2018, 12:56:48 AM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1017032771766751232

Doctor, Burger flipper, farmer and now EFC pro well done @Confucius (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=196)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Confucius on July 12, 2018, 01:08:12 AM
Doctor, Burger flipper, farmer and now EFC pro well done @Confucius (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=196)

Donít forget bullshitter

Does look like a cousin of mine.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 15, 2018, 02:26:16 PM
Beni meant to be off to Wigan on loan as well now
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bally on August 15, 2018, 02:39:05 PM
Beni meant to be off to Wigan on loan as well now
Probably do him good to be playing every week ,gutted if he doesn't make it here
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 15, 2018, 02:51:37 PM
Probably do him good to be playing every week ,gutted if he doesn't make it here
Defo mate
Good to have a link with a local club as well
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on August 15, 2018, 02:51:44 PM
Yeah, Beni looks an actual proper footballer - works hard to try and read the game and make the right pass. I think a good run of games for someone will do him (and us) well. I think with a bit more sharpness and tenacity, he could become a very good midfielder. Nothing sexy, or out of this world but a steady Matic type. Good luck to the lad.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on August 15, 2018, 02:58:35 PM
Will be really interested to see Beni playing 1-2000 minutes somewhere.

He looks a good player but not that much on the ball showed so far. Will be interesting to see how he gets on!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on August 15, 2018, 03:11:00 PM
Liked how he at least tried to be progressive against Chelsea last season. Dropped the shoulder a few times and moved forwards with the ball instead of taking the safe option which you would have expected from such a young lad in a big game.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Escla on August 15, 2018, 03:38:32 PM
What is the status of OnyekuruíS work permit ?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on August 15, 2018, 03:42:43 PM
Apparently he hasn't been smiling enough in training with the other Galatasaray boys, so we're going to have to sit it out until January at least.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: DanDan on September 25, 2018, 05:20:41 PM
Playing away at Bradford tonight in the EFL Trophy. Wonder if the likes of Lookman will get some minutes
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on September 26, 2018, 01:57:43 AM
the Bradford City game is supposed to be streamed live to STH's etc.  The link doesn't work .Usual Everton cock up
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: DanDan on September 26, 2018, 03:11:01 AM
1 nil up Sambou
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: DanDan on September 26, 2018, 03:15:12 AM
Evans sent off
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: DanDan on September 26, 2018, 03:23:16 AM
1-1 they equalised in injury time so goes to penalties
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: DanDan on September 26, 2018, 03:34:03 AM
Lost 6-5 on pens
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on September 26, 2018, 03:57:10 AM
1 nil up Sambou
Evans sent off
1-1 they equalised in injury time so goes to penalties
Lost 6-5 on pens

Everton that
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on September 26, 2018, 04:24:34 PM
Not exactly on topic based on the previous few posts but I saw this a few weeks ago. It's not great, at least from my point-of view.

https://www.trainingground.guru/articles/everton-youth-teams-now-more-direct,-less-sanitised (https://www.trainingground.guru/articles/everton-youth-teams-now-more-direct,-less-sanitised)

Some choice quotes:

It seems regressive to develop players so they'll be comfortable in League Two if they go on loan. And to think of flick-ons as the "real world." It's only a reality for crap teams in England. Nobody who's actually good plays that route one garbage.

I know he mentions playing out from the back and going direct but really, there's no point bothering with the latter. Our academy players are never going to reach the level we need them at if half of their development time is spent learning crap football.

Fuck me that's grim reading. CB's - "They've got to head it, block it, kick it - then if they can play, great."

Well... as long as they can "kick it" FFS!

I don't agree with this at all. Coach good football and with it good decision-making. A good footballer will know when to do something basic and when he can and should play it. Someone who has only ever been told "When in doubt, kick it out" will be looking for row Z every time which is just giving the opposition the ball back.

If you have a player who is coached to be good in the air and direct a header, then they can find space with a flick-on as easily as they can find the net. They don't need to be coached flick-on's for flick-on's sake. If they've been coached good decision-making, when the time comes for one they will be fine.

This is so anti-football. To be putting this into kids so young is very, very disappointing and I'm not surprised so few U18's have been kept on. The question is - have we let them down by doing this? Have we missed out on a potentially decent player? Have we potentially fucked up someone's career?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Gash on September 29, 2018, 12:09:32 AM
Love this kind of thing. Photo with the first team then lunch and training with U23's.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-arrange-heart-warming-day-15211266
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: gizzblue on September 29, 2018, 12:21:26 AM
Love this kind of thing. Photo with the first team then lunch and training with U23's.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-arrange-heart-warming-day-15211266

Love our club, for stuff like this we excel .
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on September 29, 2018, 02:41:52 AM
winning 2-0
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on October 02, 2018, 04:01:37 PM
Both Brooks and Maddison who we were linked with started really well.

Apparently josh bowler is looking like heís kicked on a bit this year - hope he can one day step up, we donít produce a great deal of attacking players.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on October 03, 2018, 12:08:26 AM
There's only one Morgan...............Feeney

And should be full steam ahead for Hornby 
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 15, 2018, 10:13:15 PM
Preston after Hornby and Norwich after Evans according to the rags
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on October 16, 2018, 12:02:17 AM
Should help keep Hornby on track
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toffee1 on October 16, 2018, 12:17:40 AM
Hornby is out for a couple of months following ankle surgery, so will he be fit to be considered to go out on loan in January?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on October 16, 2018, 12:19:18 AM
A model pro, so probably yes
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on October 28, 2018, 02:05:53 AM
Holgate, Baningime, McCarthy and Dowell played in 1-0 win against City today
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 29, 2018, 06:03:35 PM
pretty much enjoyed the man city match.


Dowell looks to have stagnated tho ;/
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Simon Paul on October 30, 2018, 09:06:29 PM
Under 18's doing well as well

Ellis Simms looks a bit of a beast like!

https://twitter.com/EvertonAcademy/status/1057286802933989376
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: DanDan on October 30, 2018, 10:33:01 PM
Under 23s are playing away at Oldham tonight in the EFL trophy

Then on Friday night playing at Crawley's ground against Brighton. Just down the road from me so will probably pop along
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ramjam on October 31, 2018, 04:45:51 AM
Under 23s are playing away at Oldham tonight in the EFL trophy

Then on Friday night playing at Crawley's ground against Brighton. Just down the road from me so will probably pop along
Are you sure it isnít the under 21ís
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: DanDan on October 31, 2018, 04:50:23 PM
Are you sure it isn’t the under 21’s

Same thing
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on October 31, 2018, 06:45:51 PM
Who was the keeper last night?

He looked awful.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: DanDan on October 31, 2018, 07:18:02 PM
Who was the keeper last night?

He looked awful.

Hewelt

Everton U21

Hewelt, Browning, Charsley, Adediran, Sambou, Feeney ©, Broadhead, Markelo (Simms 75í), Gordon (Kiersey 58í), Lavery (Bowler 58í), John
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on October 31, 2018, 07:28:55 PM
Hewelt

Everton U21

Hewelt, Browning, Charsley, Adediran, Sambou, Feeney ©, Broadhead, Markelo (Simms 75í), Gordon (Kiersey 58í), Lavery (Bowler 58í), John


Wonde if any of these will make it?

Apparently Sambouís deal is up this year?

Bowler was signed for real money but feels miles off first team.

Same for Markelo and Adeniran, but I have some hopes for both.

Gordon / Lavery / Charsley / Feeney - all been with us years but not too close to first team either.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on November 02, 2018, 02:53:33 AM
Lost the u18  Derby 4-3. After coming back from 3-1 down to 3-3. Shite scored in the last minute
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 02, 2018, 03:12:41 AM
Lost the u18  Derby 4-3. After coming back from 3-1 down to 3-3. Shite scored in the last minute
Standard
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on November 02, 2018, 03:24:49 AM
Lost the u18  Derby 4-3. After coming back from 3-1 down to 3-3. Shite scored in the last minute

Destined for the first team them boys.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on November 03, 2018, 06:28:44 PM
Beat Brighton 2-1 to stay top

Ryan Rollin' Astley, just turned 17, securing his place at centre back and already in line for full Wales call up - whenever they need somebody....................

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: sam of the south on November 03, 2018, 10:06:34 PM
Beat Brighton 2-1 to stay top

Ryan Rollin' Astley, just turned 17, securing his place at centre back and already in line for full Wales call up - whenever they need somebody....................



Heís already better than Williams, surely
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on November 10, 2018, 02:31:20 PM
'Rum roll..................Captain Morgan Feeney is

Netted the winner last night

Can't be far off fourth choice centre back, ahead of Jags and Holgate
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 10, 2018, 05:51:53 PM
'Rum roll..................Captain Morgan Feeney is

Netted the winner last night

Can't be far off fourth choice centre back, ahead of Jags and Holgate
He is behind both of them
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on November 10, 2018, 06:15:19 PM
Feeney is miles off.

Even for the under 23s he doesnít stand out.

Will never make it here.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on November 10, 2018, 06:34:45 PM
Gibson, Foulds, Astley
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on November 10, 2018, 06:41:25 PM
Gibson, Foulds, Astley

Sessions
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bluedylan on November 10, 2018, 07:15:00 PM
Winnersh
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 10, 2018, 11:19:43 PM
U18

https://twitter.com/EvertonAcademy/status/1061297662903902209
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on November 10, 2018, 11:53:01 PM
Ellis Simms knows where the old onion bag is doesn’t he
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Robioto on November 11, 2018, 12:15:00 AM
I will not have her tunnel banded around this office. Willy. Nilly.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on November 11, 2018, 12:19:54 AM
Simms needs moving up a level clearly
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Simon Paul on November 11, 2018, 12:31:30 AM
Simms needs moving up a level clearly
Twitter said no last week. Sorry.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on November 11, 2018, 06:13:03 AM
Twitter said no last week. Sorry.

He said up a level.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on November 25, 2018, 04:31:22 PM
I see Dortmund and Bayern are after young Anthony Gordon.

Superb youth record and apparently a big talent. Looked good the other week. Letís keep him!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on November 25, 2018, 04:36:36 PM
I see Dortmund and Bayern are after young Anthony Gordon.

Superb youth record and apparently a big talent. Looked good the other week. Letís keep him!

He wants Unsworth gone.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on November 25, 2018, 05:13:11 PM
He wants Unsworth gone.

Who, Gordon?

Not the first like.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Trowel on November 25, 2018, 05:55:11 PM
Min-derby today at 2pm.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on November 25, 2018, 08:21:55 PM
losing 0-1
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on November 25, 2018, 08:24:10 PM
Why is Browning still around?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on November 25, 2018, 10:00:30 PM
lost 1-0   ffs can we ever win a game in any format-  u18 last month now these fuckers -  still top though
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: van der Meyde on November 26, 2018, 01:07:16 AM
Who, Gordon?

Not the first like.
What's the issue they have with him? Anyone know?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on November 26, 2018, 06:01:28 AM
What's the issue they have with him? Anyone know?

Not sure. I know green hates him. Iím sure Barkley had a falling out with him.

I heard that when Brewster was with us someone came in to loan him and Unsworth said no, because he wanted him for the U23 league push.

Brewster ended up leaving Everton without a deal.

Personally I think he seems like a lovely man and is Everton through and through. But Iíve no doubt his name is down in marcels book.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 27, 2018, 01:11:18 AM
Not sure. I know green hates him. Iím sure Barkley had a falling out with him.

I heard that when Brewster was with us someone came in to loan him and Unsworth said no, because he wanted him for the U23 league push.

Brewster ended up leaving Everton without a deal.

Personally I think he seems like a lovely man and is Everton through and through. But Iíve no doubt his name is down in marcels book.

Didnít Ledson talk the Oxford gang out of seriously considering him for the job?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on November 27, 2018, 01:37:44 AM
Kenny back playing for U23's
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on November 27, 2018, 04:32:24 PM
Are there any genuine prospects in the U-23's now that look as if they're 12-18 months away from pushing on or did we clear them out recently when we took Davies, Lookman, DCL and Kenny? I won't include Dowell or Holgate in that as they're past U-23 level but not good enough for our first team and will both probably move on.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 27, 2018, 06:32:27 PM
Are there any genuine prospects in the U-23's now that look as if they're 12-18 months away from pushing on or did we clear them out recently when we took Davies, Lookman, DCL and Kenny? I won't include Dowell or Holgate in that as they're past U-23 level but not good enough for our first team and will both probably move on.
Think Holgate still has a chance

The lad Gordon is meant to be decent, Williams is out on loan, meant to be rated highly, Honrby too and theres a lad in th 18s smashing them in
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on November 27, 2018, 06:54:07 PM
Think Holgate still has a chance

The lad Gordon is meant to be decent, Williams is out on loan, meant to be rated highly, Honrby too and theres a lad in th 18s smashing them in

We've been waiting for Holgate to kick on for 18 months now and he still has the physique of a kid and hasn't improved his play. Needs to play every week somewhere to see if he does have it within him.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on November 27, 2018, 07:14:25 PM
I dunno why but when I see Hornby I just think he'll eventually play for someone like Norwich and be really good for them.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on November 27, 2018, 07:53:07 PM
Sell Holgate for 10mil.

Never making it here.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bluedylan on November 27, 2018, 07:55:26 PM
Sell Holgate for 10mil.

Never making it here.

Silva even said in his presser the other day when talking about the difficulties in choosing between Zouma/Mina/Keane ''and not forgetting the other two, Jags and Mason'', like he had pretty much forgotten them as viable first team options.

I agree. He's not making it here.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on November 28, 2018, 01:32:21 AM
Holgate's chance has gone, don't see Silva keeping him; or Kenny; or Dowell

Three 17 year olds next in line: Anthony Gordon, Ryan Astley & Kyle John

Hornby trains well

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 28, 2018, 01:39:50 AM
Holgate never seems to win headers which is a bad trait to have as a CB. Could see someone lower Prem buying him and never playing him until he goes into obscurity.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on November 28, 2018, 02:04:27 AM
Bournemouth can buy him as their Ake replacement.

Think weíve got a decent crop still with us who we will have to see about.

Anthony Gordon, Nathangelo Markelo, Dennis Adeniran, Lewis Gibson, This Kyle kid who played in the Sport Pesa, Con Ouzounidis, Manasse Mampala..

Obviously Williams is out on loan still but is the only loaned out academy product who maybe has a chance I think? Basing that off the reports Silva liked him rather than his performances.

Antonee Robinson too I suppose, injured til the new year now.

The keeper Virginia is apparently rated.

Shame Bowler hasnít kicked on. Shades of Matty Kennedy there I suppose.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Goaljira on November 28, 2018, 03:40:45 AM
Everyone's forgetting Beni.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on November 28, 2018, 02:04:59 PM
Everyone's forgetting Beni.

Was just going to say that I was hoping to see more of him. Could be the natural successor to Gueye - but there's a lot of development required in between here and there.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on November 28, 2018, 07:23:28 PM
Bournemouth can buy him as their Ake replacement.

Think weíve got a decent crop still with us who we will have to see about.

Anthony Gordon, Nathangelo Markelo, Dennis Adeniran, Lewis Gibson, This Kyle kid who played in the Sport Pesa, Con Ouzounidis, Manasse Mampala..

Obviously Williams is out on loan still but is the only loaned out academy product who maybe has a chance I think? Basing that off the reports Silva liked him rather than his performances.

Antonee Robinson too I suppose, injured til the new year now.

The keeper Virginia is apparently rated.

Shame Bowler hasnít kicked on. Shades of Matty Kennedy there I suppose.

Has Virginia ever been in our U23s?

Seems like we're building up for him to be our number 1 in the future.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 04, 2018, 11:45:27 PM
more kids .....

https://twitter.com/TrevorMcKinlay/status/1069968541686923274
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: D15TIN on December 04, 2018, 11:50:03 PM
more kids .....

https://twitter.com/TrevorMcKinlay/status/1069968541686923274
Up the Tapper Uppers!!

Seriously though all of our younger teams seem to boss every league haha
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 13, 2018, 12:34:59 AM
Simms starting tonight

https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1072920317243351041
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on December 13, 2018, 01:42:53 AM
Can't watch it ,either picture no sound or no picture at all. Usual EFC cock up.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on December 14, 2018, 02:07:40 PM
Where the hell is Beni?

Still on the OS, I was impressed by his appearances in the first team and his write-up seems to be exactly the right type of character a young pro should aspire to have:

"At the end of the 2016/17 campaign, he scooped the prestigious Keith Tamlin award, named after the Clubís Vice Life President, for his excellence, attitude and application during their time spent in the Academy."

On a side note - 'Vice-Life President sounds gangster AF lolol
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Hawkandro on December 14, 2018, 09:37:47 PM
Where the hell is Beni?

Been injured.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on December 14, 2018, 09:45:54 PM
Been injured.

Thanks again for the info about Beni Beeninjuredinagame :)

Hope he's back soon!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 16, 2018, 08:06:04 PM
Women are better woooo

https://twitter.com/EvertonLadies/status/1074302198933270529
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on January 16, 2019, 12:57:01 AM
Just the ticket, Hornby back with a goal, beat Chelsea 2-0

On time for the Lions Den
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on January 16, 2019, 01:20:54 AM
Still no sign of Beni . Not in the squad.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on January 16, 2019, 01:24:21 AM
Joe Williams linked to loads of clubs on a perm.

Silva has said heís in his plans and will be in the first team next season.

Interesting to see how this pans out.

Maybe part of the midfield revamp?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on January 16, 2019, 01:34:08 AM
Williams would be Gana's replacement, a tough ball winner

                          6)Williams
           7)Gomes                    11)Vlasic
                        10)Sigurdsson

Don't know, could work
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on January 16, 2019, 01:39:09 AM
Would be great to see some of the U23's coming through and making a real impact.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on January 16, 2019, 01:46:08 AM
Any mad shouts for future stars?

Gibson has been rated for ages.

I like the look of Adeniran when Iíve seen him.

It would be nice to produce an attacking player, Anthony Gordon will be good I think. But young wingers / attacking players tend to drop off sharply donít they, end up down the leagues etc.

Hornby Iíve got in my head that heís a big meat head but apparently used to play midfield so might be good on the sly.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: kramer0 on January 16, 2019, 02:00:18 AM
The cynic in me says there's only one path to future stardom for these players and it's setting the world on fire from day one like Rooney.

My hope is that Brands has some ideas for how we can actually develop talented players when they don't hit the ground running or stumble somewhere else along the way (i.e almost every young player).
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on January 16, 2019, 02:45:00 AM
A shout for the top: Ryan Astley
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 16, 2019, 03:03:30 AM
The cynic in me says there's only one path to future stardom for these players and it's setting the world on fire from day one like Rooney.

My hope is that Brands has some ideas for how we can actually develop talented players when they don't hit the ground running or stumble somewhere else along the way (i.e almost every young player).

Surely a good move is to let the 1s who arenít quite good enough go quickly and cheaply with big sell on clauses and low buy backs. Let them settle elsewhere and get on with their careers with the insurance we can take our profit down the line if they make it

The situation with Pennington is very odd. He just signs contracts with little hope of doing anything here. We seem so desperate to preserve a players value that we are blind to the fact that sometimes they probably donít have 1
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on January 16, 2019, 03:08:55 AM
A shout for the top: Ryan Astley
.....................never gonna give him up  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on January 16, 2019, 03:42:27 AM
Together Forever
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: arteta4spain on January 16, 2019, 03:31:27 PM
.....................never gonna give him up  :thumbsup:
Gonna get rick rolled!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 17, 2019, 05:33:08 PM
We all love a bit of footy manager nonsense

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/best-everton-wonderkids-right-now-15674985
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on January 17, 2019, 06:50:25 PM
Ryan Astley, just signed first professional contract
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Thomas on January 19, 2019, 11:39:51 PM
I genuinely might just watch the U-23s for the rest of the season.

Watching the first team is grim.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Mac934 on January 20, 2019, 12:06:27 AM
Are any of the U23 squad available for a couple of hours on a weekend?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on February 20, 2019, 10:16:32 PM
Hornby on track for first team, scored again in 2-0 win on Monday that keeps us top

Full of steam and looks a beast!

Galloway played but Browning signs for Chinese club
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 20, 2019, 10:33:29 PM
Ryan Astley, just signed first professional contract

Never gonna give him up, obviously.  :D
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on February 20, 2019, 10:45:02 PM
Never gonna give him up, obviously.  :D
..................Quote from: BlueForYou on January 16, 2019, 02:45:00 AM
A shout for the top: Ryan Astley
Alanvideo.................... .never gonna give him up  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on February 20, 2019, 10:45:58 PM
Hornby on track for first team, scored again in 2-0 win on Monday that keeps us top

Full of steam and looks a beast!

................bet your chuffed with that !
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Mac934 on February 20, 2019, 11:38:09 PM
Hornby on track for first team, scored again in 2-0 win on Monday that keeps us top

Full of steam and looks a beast!


Bet he trains well. Daren't ask if he has a tender behind............
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on February 20, 2019, 11:42:38 PM
Letís hope he doesnít go off the rails...


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on February 21, 2019, 05:05:34 PM
Letís hope he doesnít go off the rails...


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He shouldn't. The FC should spot the signals as soon as they are flagged.

I'm stoked about this one - he's been under the radar for a bit now - a real sleeper!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on February 21, 2019, 06:43:21 PM
Ryan Astley, just signed first professional contract

Never gonna give him up.

Edit: bollocks, beaten to the punchline by EINC
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 21, 2019, 07:13:32 PM
Never gonna give him up.

Edit: bollocks, beaten to the punchline by EINC

You could have followed with "we wouldn't get this from any other guy"  :D
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on February 21, 2019, 08:13:34 PM
Cry for help: Hornby's going underground

And guess who also scored the other night - Luke the Fluke on Loan Watch for Oxford (is he Under 23?)
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Cassius on February 24, 2019, 01:13:21 AM
Sheffield United currently winning 1-0 away at WBA with Dowell scoring a breakaway goal.


Soz, meant this for the loan tbread.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on March 05, 2019, 12:20:53 AM
Sambou, player of the month

Liverpool, tonight

A good platform for our flying scotsman

 
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on March 05, 2019, 12:22:44 AM
Feel a defeat coming
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on March 05, 2019, 12:28:07 AM
We're top of the league!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on March 05, 2019, 01:13:14 AM
1-0 to the Blues
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on March 05, 2019, 02:47:18 AM
Seems a shame weíre not offering Sambou a new contract and letting him go in the summer


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on March 05, 2019, 02:48:35 AM
2-0
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on March 05, 2019, 02:52:05 AM
Links
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 05, 2019, 03:12:02 AM
Seems a shame we're not offering Sambou a new contract and letting him go in the summer


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Are we defo doing that?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on March 05, 2019, 04:19:00 AM
Little dig at the German prick here

https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1102675288369045509
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: sam of the south on March 05, 2019, 06:19:21 AM
Little dig at the German prick here

https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1102675288369045509

Blimey, who was number 16 with the body swerve, acceleration, and assist?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on March 05, 2019, 09:54:58 AM
Blimey, who was number 16 with the body swerve, acceleration, and assist?

Anthony Gordon, midfielder who just turned 18. Played for the first team in that Europa game in Cyprus in 2017.

He also did this for the U-18s a few weeks back:
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 05, 2019, 05:28:36 PM
Loving the hair style. Him and Davies....lovely.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bigmanbob on March 05, 2019, 06:45:03 PM
Reminds me of me many moons ago when I was about 14 but without the ginge
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: stirlingblue on March 05, 2019, 11:40:09 PM
That Dennis Adeniran looked a really powerful and fast CM, something the first team is sorely lacking.

Anyone know anything about him?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on March 05, 2019, 11:47:41 PM
That Dennis Adeniran looked a really powerful and fast CM, something the first team is sorely lacking.

Anyone know anything about him?

Didn't watch this game but like what I've seen from him in the past.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: stirlingblue on March 06, 2019, 12:17:18 AM
Didn't watch this game but like what I've seen from him in the past.

Had a quick google and apparently we have high hopes, we payed Fulham £4m for him last year but he was out for half a season with an injury, doing well now heís back up and running
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ross on March 06, 2019, 12:22:51 AM
Didnít see all of it but I thought the lad Bowler looked lively.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 06, 2019, 12:41:02 AM
Didn't see all of it but I thought the lad Bowler looked lively.
Unsworth been raving about him lately
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on March 06, 2019, 01:56:08 AM
It's all about Anthony Gordon.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ross on March 06, 2019, 03:18:34 AM
Unsworth been raving about him lately

Should be looking at a loan next year Iíd have thought he doesnít look ready for the full team but heís a talent.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 06, 2019, 04:09:01 AM
Should be looking at a loan next year I'd have thought he doesn't look ready for the full team but he's a talent.
Yeah I'd have thought so
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on March 06, 2019, 04:34:44 AM
Are we defo doing that?
Apparently we tried to find him a loan deal in Jan to shop window him, when he gets released in the summer, but no one came in for him.


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 06, 2019, 06:13:48 PM
It's all about Anthony Gordon.

https://twitter.com/EvertonAcademy/status/1103264343918104577
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on March 06, 2019, 06:16:08 PM
That's very good news. The German clubs have been sniffing round so hopefully that keeps them at bay.

How far away is he do we reckon?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bigmanbob on March 06, 2019, 07:20:01 PM
He's not even been playing regularly for the U23's yet so I'd say he'll go there for a few seasons first
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Gary1878 on March 06, 2019, 07:34:11 PM
Great cross by Bowler. From the highlights, it could have been easily 4 or 5.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 08, 2019, 11:11:39 PM
video wont play. idiots. In next post....
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 09, 2019, 12:56:20 AM
https://twitter.com/ToffeeTVEFC/status/1104092868967321600
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on March 09, 2019, 12:57:18 AM
video wont play. idiots. In next post....

Yes the lads
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on March 09, 2019, 01:37:37 PM
https://twitter.com/ToffeeTVEFC/status/1104092868967321600

That 10 foot tall feeling!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: sam of the south on March 09, 2019, 03:11:34 PM
Cityís blue!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 04, 2019, 09:54:53 PM
'Title decider V Brighton April 15th Monday  7pm    @ Goodison Free Entry book your tickets  Park End Only open at the moment 

https://tickets.evertonfc.com/selection/event/seat?perfId=101323440178&productId=101266322663&fbclid=IwAR3gGTwCfQVgxp4bqPWgFQja8QIT73lIjKQfFa9sscKWwO2qJnZk-qjSmNQ
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 07, 2019, 10:48:21 PM
Brighton drew 2-2 with Swansea to cut are lead to 3 pts with 2 games to go , we lost to City today 4-3 so same as 3pts Lead Play Brighton on Mon 15th Title  Decider
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: gizzblue on April 10, 2019, 01:48:39 AM
Loads of free tickets left ...gonna take the grandkids to this .

Let them see a young hungry squad hopefully with a few future first teamers .
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Trowel on April 16, 2019, 12:38:39 AM
Game will be streamed live on Youtube - starts just before 7 here:

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on April 16, 2019, 12:57:39 AM
The siren in an under 23s game doesn't work
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on April 16, 2019, 01:13:37 AM
The siren in an under 23s game doesn't work

No, youíre messing. Please tell me youíre messing?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on April 16, 2019, 01:19:46 AM
No, youíre messing. Please tell me youíre messing?

Nope not messing, was played before zcars and had flame machines as well
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Robbie Moubert on April 16, 2019, 01:25:27 AM
1-0! Great goal from Josh Bowler!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Robbie Moubert on April 16, 2019, 01:28:23 AM
Clearance off the line by Hornby!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bally on April 16, 2019, 02:01:05 AM
Nice to hear they still play shit fucking music at the U23s

Fucking shite

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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Robbie Moubert on April 16, 2019, 02:14:42 AM
Brighton have started the second half strongly but Bowler and Hornby have both had chances to score.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Robbie Moubert on April 16, 2019, 02:20:39 AM
Should be 2-0 up but can't put our chances away. Shades of the first team!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Robbie Moubert on April 16, 2019, 02:44:06 AM
Brighton penalty missed! Poor lad slipped and ballooned it wide.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on April 16, 2019, 02:46:19 AM
Kinell what a slip . Now take advantage Blues
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Robbie Moubert on April 16, 2019, 02:57:21 AM
Champions!
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on April 16, 2019, 03:02:10 AM
Champions!
........... :hail:
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on April 16, 2019, 03:17:15 AM
Gibson very very good.

Bowler good but in and out the game.

Looked like a 442 with a big man up top. Didn't think much of the football we played but some good individual players.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on April 16, 2019, 04:05:19 AM
Just doesn't work does it

https://twitter.com/Adam_Jones94/status/1117850605299486720
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: toshyboy on April 16, 2019, 04:10:11 AM
Just doesn't work does it

https://twitter.com/Adam_Jones94/status/1117850605299486720

Never thought z cars does either though to be fair for the u23 games
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: gizzblue on April 16, 2019, 04:47:31 AM
Hard for it to work with a 2 1/3rds empty stadium .....but they won both game and league ...and aside a real shit peno never looked to hassled. me and the grandkids loved it and the staff give the kids clappers so they felt spoiled ....well done to the lads and all for making it a good night .
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on April 16, 2019, 04:52:50 AM
Whoís making it into the first team out of this lot then?

Iím proper out of touch with this crop of youngsters.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on April 16, 2019, 04:54:40 AM
Whoís making it into the first team out of this lot then?

Iím proper out of touch with this crop of youngsters.



Gibson was very impressive mate. Gave the pen away but I won't be surprised to see him playing real football very soon.

Modern Cb; physically imposing, headers, blocks, bollocking people, but also very very comfortable bringing the ball out and breaking lines dribbling.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on April 16, 2019, 04:58:39 AM
Gibson was very impressive mate. Gave the pen away but I won't be surprised to see him playing real football very soon.

Modern Cb; physically imposing, headers, blocks, bollocking people, but also very very comfortable bringing the ball out and breaking lines dribbling.


Heís with the first team here. Seem to be making an effort to make sure you know heís with the first team.

Can go left back as well canít he?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 16, 2019, 05:04:35 AM
Who's making it into the first team out of this lot then?

I'm proper out of touch with this crop of youngsters.
I'd be surprised to see any tbh. The gulf is massive nowadays
Winning these things are great but they mean little tbh
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: gizzblue on April 16, 2019, 05:18:36 AM
I'd be surprised to see any tbh. The gulf is massive nowadays
Winning these things are great but they mean little tbh

Meant an awful lot to the team and all that were there .
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on April 16, 2019, 02:06:11 PM

Heís with the first team here. Seem to be making an effort to make sure you know heís with the first team.

Can go left back as well canít he?

Not sure re LB, he is left sided and looks quite quick with the ball at his feet but never really seen him before last night.

Foulds came on around the 72nd minute and Galloway shuffled across to make a 5 at the back to help see out the game. Foulds looked good as well.

Feeney didn't put a foot wrong and dived in the park end after the final whistle which was good stuff, but he looks small. Deceptively quick tho.

I think Brands will be looking to move unsworth and co on soon. It was like watching Cardiff, but the individual quality was as good or better than their opponents rather than worse. They should be playing something that remotely represents what the first team are doing I think.

Hornby and Sambou won't see prem football. Bowler and Gibson should go the champ next year hopefully.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Hawkandro on April 16, 2019, 02:22:33 PM
You will imagine Brands will want the U23s to echo what the first team do; tactics, formation, how they play etc.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Makis on April 16, 2019, 02:46:21 PM
Isn't Sambou's contract running out anyways?

Does the youth teams have the players to play in the same style as what Silva wants, i.e. 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1? Do they have the right type of wide forwards?

And yeah, the gulf is massive. Remember we have several under 23 players in the first squad (DCL, Davies, Lookman, Kenny, Richarlison. Imagine how they would dominate at this level. I would imagine the lads that have been on load to Championship have a much better chance. I.e. Connolly, Williams, Robinson, Holgate) and at best they will most likely be in the periphery.  If there was no transfer budget then I cold see some of the promoted to the subs bench.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Hesmenos on April 16, 2019, 03:59:31 PM


Heís with the first team here. Seem to be making an effort to make sure you know heís with the first team.

Can go left back as well canít he?
He's got a year left on his contract and he's highly rated so there will be other teams having a sniff. Having him train with the first team is a good way to show him that he has a future with us. Ideally you want him to sign an extension and get him on loan to a good championship team next season.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Hesmenos on April 16, 2019, 04:50:32 PM
Isn't Sambou's contract running out anyways?

Does the youth teams have the players to play in the same style as what Silva wants, i.e. 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1? Do they have the right type of wide forwards?

And yeah, the gulf is massive. Remember we have several under 23 players in the first squad (DCL, Davies, Lookman, Kenny, Richarlison. Imagine how they would dominate at this level. I would imagine the lads that have been on load to Championship have a much better chance. I.e. Connolly, Williams, Robinson, Holgate) and at best they will most likely be in the periphery.  If there was no transfer budget then I cold see some of the promoted to the subs bench.
Its wonderful for the players and their families to win this league but it means very little to the club.
The main aim of the u23s should be to provide players for the first  team. Ajax probably have the most successful football academy in Europe. Their youth teams are famous for playing the same system as the first team so that when they get into the first team they are ready to slot straight in. They are currently 7th in their youth league but have provided 11 players in the current Ajax first team (5 of these are regular starters in the first XI)
Of the team that won the PL2 two seasons ago, 4 are currently in our first team and DCL is the only one that can be considered a regular starter in the first XI
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 16, 2019, 04:51:39 PM
Meant an awful lot to the team and all that were there .
Not saying it doesnt mean a lot to the lads and the fans involved, I mean it means little in the future team being littered with young lads coming through
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on April 16, 2019, 05:15:54 PM
People have mentioned that Brands might want an upgrade on Unsworth in order to produce the type of player capable of playing PL . Winning the PL2 twice in 3 seasons is about as good as it gets ,yet as @Jimmywhack (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=329) says , its meaningless in terms of players coming through.
On the evidence of last night's game you might say Bowler and one or two others are worth a try from the bench in the odd game ,maybe in the early UEFA's if we happen to scrape in ,unlikely I know.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: stirlingblue on April 16, 2019, 07:07:25 PM
Its wonderful for the players and their families to win this league but it means very little to the club.
The main aim of the u23s should be to provide players for the first  team. Ajax probably have the most successful football academy in Europe. Their youth teams are famous for playing the same system as the first team so that when they get into the first team they are ready to slot straight in. They are currently 7th in their youth league but have provided 11 players in the current Ajax first team (5 of these are regular starters in the first XI)
Of the team that won the PL2 two seasons ago, 4 are currently in our first team and DCL is the only one that can be considered a regular starter in the first XI

To be fair, itís much easier to step up to the Eridevisie than it is to the Premier League. The PL is the fastest/most demanding league in the world, and no clubs have several youngsters stepping up from the same crop.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 16, 2019, 09:49:51 PM
https://twitter.com/LewisGippa3/status/1118128173282205696
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: gizzblue on April 16, 2019, 11:12:45 PM
https://twitter.com/LewisGippa3/status/1118128173282205696

Was great last night ...can see him and a couple of others making the full squad myself ...Bowler Sambou maybe even Feeney ...but they need to be looking to go out on loan next season and get some good minutes .
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on April 17, 2019, 03:39:16 PM
Gibson did cost us £6m which for a youth team player is nuts, even in these times. Youíd like to think heíd be nailed-on to be a first teamer. Seems to be on the right track.


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on April 17, 2019, 03:47:21 PM
Was great last night ...can see him and a couple of others making the full squad myself ...Bowler Sambou maybe even Feeney ...but they need to be looking to go out on loan next season and get some good minutes .
..............Sambou is out of contract in June  ,I thought I read somewhere he was being released ?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on April 17, 2019, 04:39:07 PM
Can't believe people are arsed about the siren at this game - it was a potential title-winning game ffs! The lads deserved it.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: stirlingblue on April 17, 2019, 05:06:04 PM
..............Sambou is out of contract in June  ,I thought I read somewhere he was being released ?

Yeah, Sambou isnít making it in the PL, not enough to his all round game
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Hesmenos on April 17, 2019, 05:29:31 PM
Gibson did cost us £6m which for a youth team player is nuts, even in these times. Youíd like to think heíd be nailed-on to be a first teamer. Seems to be on the right track.


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I'm sure I read somewhere that it was £1M with a potential to cost £6M. I imagine some of the addons would include first team appearances
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ross on April 17, 2019, 06:44:07 PM
Gibson did cost us £6m which for a youth team player is nuts, even in these times. Youíd like to think heíd be nailed-on to be a first teamer. Seems to be on the right track.


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Youíd hope that the vast majority of that was made up by target related payments and the initial fee was much lower.

But guess itís hard to be sure given weíve been so blasť with money these past few years.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Gary1878 on April 29, 2019, 05:46:19 PM
Watching the U23s tonight at West Ham. Most interested to watch Lewis Gibson given the U23s incredible defensive record, and whether he might be sent out on loan next year to test him more.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Gary1878 on May 01, 2019, 07:53:25 PM
Nice article on Sambou by the Echo: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/roberto-martinez-transfer-who-aiming-16207604

Some thoughts on the under 23s 2-1 defeat against West Ham on Monday evening:

- We rested 3 key players (Bowler, Sambou and Virginia) and it showed. West Ham needed to win to avoid relegation, and also had 2 first teamers in there, so was always going to be difficult.

- Fraser Hornby is Andy Carroll in disguise. Big lad up top, with little skill - can't see him making it with us based on this
- Josh Bowler - when he came on, we instantly looked better. Good speed and skill, and is physically powerful. Would like to see him in and around the first team for cup games next year.
- Lewis Gibson - Generally impressive. The first goal conceded was a result of West Ham playing Diangana on the right hand side, and he ripped Galloway apart. The second was from a shot outside the box, and little he could do.

- London Stadium - Its dreadful. For anyone that hasn't been, the lower tier and top tier are separate from eachother, segregated by scaffolding in the middle (lower tier moves back for Athletics Events).
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on May 04, 2019, 10:58:15 PM
Double is on!

U23's in Cup Final after 2-0 semi-final win against Swansea with goals from Hornby and Sambou
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on May 05, 2019, 01:42:20 AM
Still won't get any recognition on sky.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on May 06, 2019, 11:29:40 PM
Final against Newcastle at Goodison on Wednesday
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on May 07, 2019, 12:35:34 AM
Any ticket info?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 07, 2019, 01:55:09 PM
Any ticket info?

https://twitter.com/EFC_FansForum/status/1125447452784496640
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on May 07, 2019, 01:56:11 PM
Final tomorrow and still no ticket info, well in Everton
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on May 07, 2019, 05:23:24 PM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1125705086083182593
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on May 08, 2019, 06:39:05 PM
Feeney and Sambou in shortlist for U23 League Player of the Season award

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ross on May 08, 2019, 06:51:52 PM
Arenít they letting that lad Sambou go as well?

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on May 08, 2019, 07:22:17 PM
Arenít they letting that lad Sambou go as well?



Think I read he's been offered a contract but the original story was definitely that we were letting him go.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Mac934 on May 08, 2019, 08:18:59 PM
Anyone know if the game will be shown on Facebook or Everton tv please?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: D15TIN on May 08, 2019, 11:43:40 PM
Potential cup double for them, and the official Liverpool city council twitter account were raving about Liverpools winning the youth cup, didn't even mention Everton.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: D15TIN on May 08, 2019, 11:44:36 PM
It's live free on Evertons Youtube account
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on May 09, 2019, 01:48:30 AM
Feeney, Evans, Adeniran, and Bowler have been great..

half time came at the wrong time for us.. we was playing really well

if you want to watch the 2nd half.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: gizzblue on May 09, 2019, 01:59:11 AM
It's live free on Evertons Youtube account

Hornby missed two great chances easier to score to be fair ...Bowler is the stand out tbh ....and how has Sambou not been given a new contract has out in June. .shame .
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: D15TIN on May 09, 2019, 02:26:11 AM
1-0 Feeney, who im told has a season ticket in GT4
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: chang on May 09, 2019, 02:40:32 AM
Our keeper kicks it longer than Pickford !
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Gary1878 on May 09, 2019, 02:57:20 AM
Josh Bowler should move up to the first team squad next season or on loan to a top championship club. Class above on the pitch.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on May 09, 2019, 02:57:25 AM
Double winner's, first team to do it as well, I wonder we'll get any sort of recognition on SSN. Probably not
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on May 09, 2019, 03:02:41 AM
BK & Farhad there too
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on May 09, 2019, 03:08:00 AM
not had sky on all day-  not brave enough- 

update this if we get any coverage lads

well done Blues  ;D
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: D15TIN on May 09, 2019, 03:14:02 AM
Well done Unsy and the little blues, boss season - couple of them need loans to championship sides for experience

hope it gets some coverage, highly doubt it though.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: sam of the south on May 09, 2019, 03:14:15 AM
Stream cut out before trophy presentation 😂

Bowler was class, Markelo, Adeniran, and Gibson all good as well.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: D15TIN on May 09, 2019, 03:15:42 AM
hahahah kenwright and moshiri in the celebrations
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on May 09, 2019, 04:16:28 AM
Double winner's, first team to do it as well, I wonder we'll get any sort of recognition on SSN. Probably not

Most our fans arenít arsed so I doubt sky are.

I didnít even know this was happening tonight tbh.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: gizzblue on May 09, 2019, 04:32:25 AM
Was a great night for all who went again ....well done the lads ...deserved every bit of that celebrating ....good to see Marco Marcel BK and Moshiri there as well as some first teamers .

Love these u23 night's  :thumbsup:
Great first double .

Bowler is a definite baller
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 09, 2019, 05:36:43 AM
Think Brands will only keep a few of these lads. Expect a mass exodus this summer. Lads who are in their 20s and have never kicked a ball in anger, are never going to make the grade. The U23s should really have 17/18 year olds in it.


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 09, 2019, 06:17:04 AM
Is Joao Virginia the keeper for them?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jamokachi on May 09, 2019, 10:02:06 AM
Is Joao Virginia the keeper for them?

Yea
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on May 09, 2019, 01:32:17 PM
This is the team that beat Arsenal U23s 5-0 a couple of years ago to give an idea of the chances any of this current lot have of making the first team:

Hewelt - Still in U23s
G. Jones - Sold to Fleetwood
Kenny - Everton
Connolly - Loaned to Bolton
Robinson - Loaned to Wigan
Dowell - Loaned to Sheffield United
Davies - Everton
Walsh - Sold to Bristol City
Henen - To be released
Niasse - Whatever
DCL - Everton

Not bad really, got three squad players from that team.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 09, 2019, 02:28:57 PM
This is the team that beat Arsenal U23s 5-0 a couple of years ago to give an idea of the chances any of this current lot have of making the first team:

Hewelt - Still in U23s
G. Jones - Sold to Fleetwood
Kenny - Everton
Connolly - Loaned to Bolton
Robinson - Loaned to Wigan
Dowell - Loaned to Sheffield United
Davies - Everton
Walsh - Sold to Bristol City
Henen - To be released
Niasse - Whatever
DCL - Everton

Not bad really, got three squad players from that team.
Not to be negative, but whilst DCL certainly developed in the U23s he wasnít a product of the academy. Kenny isnít good enough and will be off in the next year or so. Davies will be a good player and certainly a good squad player. Thatís not a great strike-rate.


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Makis on May 09, 2019, 02:36:21 PM
It's actually quite good. If every year was that good the team could be pretty self-sufficient. From that example it's still hard to tell which ones are going to really make it but if you get one player who will in the future be a first team regular you'd almost fill up the first team with those players assuming no-one is sold to bigger clubs. If two, then you would fill up the first team squad.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 09, 2019, 02:44:25 PM
I appreciate there are late bloomers and teams donít want to miss out on the next Harry Kane, but Charsley is 22, Broadhead and quite a few others are 21. Itís debatable whether these players will even have a professional career in football, let alone play in our first team.

There are rumours Brands will tear up the youth system this summer, itíll be interesting to see what he implements.


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on May 09, 2019, 02:53:59 PM
It seems harsh to knock Rhino given his outstanding success with the U23's but I wonder if Brands is content with that. Very few players make the step up to first team duties. Bowler and Virginia are the most likely of the current crop and they were brought in from elsewhere.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 09, 2019, 03:16:39 PM
But success for the U23s shouldnít be winning trophyís. It should be about bringing youngsters into the first team or selling academic players for a substantial profit.


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bob Sacamano on May 09, 2019, 03:31:42 PM
Haha what?!

Letís bin the comps and just have them train at finch farm until we kinda guess they're ready for competitive action 👍
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on May 09, 2019, 03:45:44 PM
Not to be negative, but whilst DCL certainly developed in the U23s he wasnít a product of the academy. Kenny isnít good enough and will be off in the next year or so. Davies will be a good player and certainly a good squad player. Thatís not a great strike-rate.

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It is compared to other teams.

There's only so much you can do at youth level, the vast majority just aren't going to be talented enough no matter how much they do right in terms of work ethic.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Bally on May 09, 2019, 03:46:44 PM
But success for the U23s shouldn't be winning trophy's. It should be about bringing youngsters into the first team or selling academic players for a substantial profit.


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What the fuck are you on about, let's not win trophies whilst you're in the reserves you know because your value will become greater by just training for a bit

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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on May 09, 2019, 03:50:08 PM
Reckon weíve done very well from that crop of players.

Davies, DCL, Kenny are all first team players with over 50 appearances each.

Dowell and Robinson are both very good players who should have a future in the premier league.

I think thatís as good as you can expect from a under 23 crop.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on May 09, 2019, 03:51:00 PM
But success for the U23s shouldnít be winning trophyís. It should be about bringing youngsters into the first team or selling academic players for a substantial profit.


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Have we not been doing that though?

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 09, 2019, 03:56:15 PM
Haha what?!

Let's bin the comps and just have them train at finch farm until we kinda guess they're ready for competitive action
I didnít say bin the comps, just that the success in these comps has no bearing on the first team.


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Makis on May 09, 2019, 04:11:47 PM
Yeah, if the choice is winning PL2 every year and no-one making the grade to first team and never winning anything with the youth team but getting first team players regularly any sane club would opt for the second. Because what's the point of the youth team in the first place?

Main criticism on Unsworth is he plays a totally different style to the first team and it seems very results-oriented.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Gary1878 on May 09, 2019, 04:18:39 PM
Success with the U23s is certainly bringing players through to the first team. However, a winning mentality is huge in football (as England's youth teams have shown), and if you can breed that confidence and success through the youth setup, the first team will benefit.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on May 09, 2019, 04:25:13 PM
I didnít say bin the comps, just that the success in these comps has no bearing on the first team.


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Yeah, if the choice is winning PL2 every year and no-one making the grade to first team and never winning anything with the youth team but getting first team players regularly any sane club would opt for the second. Because what's the point of the youth team in the first place?

Main criticism on Unsworth is he plays a totally different style to the first team and it seems very results-oriented.
...............this is what I was getting at earlier. It's great having the best U23 team in the country but I bet Brands is looking at replacing Rhino with someone who could provide more end product .
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on May 09, 2019, 04:29:01 PM
What the fuck are you on about, let's not win trophies whilst you're in the reserves you know because your value will become greater by just training for a bit

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No, its great for them to win trophys, it's just not the point of u23 football.

Feeney won the 2017 euros with England, most of that squad is now playing mens football while feeney is in his 20s winning a Youth Cup.

Broadhead is part of the immensely talented Wales U21 squad, he's just won player of the year for us in youth football, but has never kicked a ball in a grown up game in his life. There's only one other Wales U21 squad member in the same position is 2 years younger than him.

Our squad is older than Chelsea, City, Liverpool etc. Because our players are stuck at the same developmental level playing hoofball, while they loan theirs out to produce if not stars then £££.

Trophys are great and v proud of the u23s, but where dya think these 20-22 year old are going now because it isn't into our first team.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 09, 2019, 04:41:26 PM
City sold 13 youngsters, that had 33 first team appearances between them, for £136m.

Chelsea make between £50m and £100m every season, loaning players, most of which are youth team players.

Liverpool sold Danny Ward for £10m and have Woodburn, Wilson, Grujic - who are all worth 8 figures. How much would they get for TAA in this market?

Obviously, those teams have greater resources - but thatís what we should aspire to. Not get excited because a load of future League 1 players have won a few trophies.


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on May 09, 2019, 05:02:31 PM
Players are coming through and weíre winning things, donít know what the issue is?

Extremely unfair to call unsworths football Ďhoofballí. Maybe itís changed now, but that team he had of dowell, Davies, Kenny etc played good football.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ross on May 09, 2019, 05:06:32 PM
City sold 13 youngsters, that had 33 first team appearances between them, for £136m.

Chelsea make between £50m and £100m every season, loaning players, most of which are youth team players.

Liverpool sold Danny Ward for £10m and have Woodburn, Wilson, Grujic - who are all worth 8 figures. How much would they get for TAA in this market?

Obviously, those teams have greater resources - but thatís what we should aspire to. Not get excited because a load of future League 1 players have won a few trophies.


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How many of those players City and Chelsea sold or are loaned out werenít actually from their academy originally? Even the four Liverpool ones youíve mentioned thereís at least 1 who isnít from their academy.

Chelsea up until RLC hadnít produce anything from their academy for 20 years even though theyíve spent hundreds of millions on it. City have spent hundreds of millions on theirs and all theyíve got to show for it is Foden and he could go either way. Same with the shite and TAA, who was their last academy graduate to become a regular for them? Gerrard? 20 something years ago?

If he hadnít chose to go to Chelsea weíd still have Barkley, after years of Osman and Hibbert (people may have differing opinions on them but they both had 10+ years as premier league players for a top 5/6/7 club) and it looks promising Davies will do the same. Thatís better than any other club youíve mentioned easily, without the hundreds of millions theyíve all poured into their academyís over the last 20 odd years.

This current crop may or may not produce a star or two for us but itís more likely they will compared to who you want us to be like.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: gizzblue on May 09, 2019, 05:09:36 PM
Ffs the young lads do the double and people on here complain because we don't crank a Rooney out every year .

Everton 'supporters' that.

Chelsea Liverpool etc etc pay rediculous amounts for poaching their youth ....which we have only just started doing ...it takes time .

In the meantime i am enjoying the u23's success and the games out with the grandkids building their relationship with footy .....it's not all about money ...when it's plain to see we are progressing .
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on May 09, 2019, 05:10:57 PM
City and Chelsea have the resources available to stockpile youngsters with no intention of ever playing them.

Poor comparison imo.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ramjam on May 09, 2019, 05:12:54 PM
Ffs the young lads do the double and people on here complain because we don't crank a Rooney out every year .

Everton 'supporters' that.

Chelsea Liverpool etc etc pay rediculous amounts for poaching their youth ....which we have only just started doing ...it takes time .

In the meantime i am enjoying the u23's success and the games out with the grandkids building their relationship with footy .....it's not all about money ...when it's plain to see we are progressing .
Great post


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 09, 2019, 05:22:59 PM
How many of those players City and Chelsea sold or are loaned out weren't actually from their academy originally? Even the four Liverpool ones you've mentioned there's at least 1 who isn't from their academy.

Chelsea up until RLC hadn't produce anything from their academy for 20 years even though they've spent hundreds of millions on it. City have spent hundreds of millions on theirs and all they've got to show for it is Foden and he could go either way. Same with the shite and TAA, who was their last academy graduate to become a regular for them? Gerrard? 20 something years ago?

If he hadn't chose to go to Chelsea we'd still have Barkley, after years of Osman and Hibbert (people may have differing opinions on them but they both had 10+ years as premier league players for a top 5/6/7 club) and it looks promising Davies will do the same. That's better than any other club you've mentioned easily, without the hundreds of millions they've all poured into their academy's over the last 20 odd years.

This current crop may or may not produce a star or two for us but it's more likely they will compared to who you want us to be like.
Youíre missing the point. Their academies may not produce players for the first team, but the money those players generate (in transfers and loan fees), goes towards players that improve the club.


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 09, 2019, 05:28:17 PM
City and Chelsea have the resources available to stockpile youngsters with no intention of ever playing them.

Poor comparison imo.
Itís not comparison - itís what we should aspire to. Itís having a plan, rather than just waiting for the next Rooney to emerge.




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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 09, 2019, 05:30:18 PM
Ffs the young lads do the double and people on here complain because we don't crank a Rooney out every year .

Everton 'supporters' that.

Chelsea Liverpool etc etc pay rediculous amounts for poaching their youth ....which we have only just started doing ...it takes time .

In the meantime i am enjoying the u23's success and the games out with the grandkids building their relationship with footy .....it's not all about money ...when it's plain to see we are progressing .
The Ďmodern footballí debate, is another issue.


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ross on May 09, 2019, 05:54:23 PM
Youíre missing the point. Their academies may not produce players for the first team, but the money those players generate (in transfers and loan fees), goes towards players that improve the club.


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I donít think I am. Your original point started off by saying we donít have a ďgreat strike rateĒ  then went onto say the u23s should be about ďbringing youngsters into the first teamĒ.

Then you brought up other clubs and their academyís saying how profitable they are but ignoring how much theyíve spent the past 20 years on signing these lads in whilst never producing anybody for their first teams.

We've probably the best academy in the country thatís not just shown now by the u23ís winning two trophies this season itís been shown over the last 20+ years when weíve been producing footballers for the first team far more regularly than others on a fraction of the budget and offering lots of kids who donít make it here a pathway into the professional game.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 09, 2019, 06:08:34 PM
I donít think I am. Your original point started off by saying we donít have a ďgreat strike rateĒ  then went onto say the u23s should be about ďbringing youngsters into the first teamĒ.

Then you brought up other clubs and their academyís saying how profitable they are but ignoring how much theyíve spent the past 20 years on signing these lads in whilst never producing anybody for their first teams.

We've probably the best academy in the country thatís not just shown now by the u23ís winning two trophies this season itís been shown over the last 20+ years when weíve been producing footballers for the first team far more regularly than others on a fraction of the budget and offering lots of kids who donít make it here a pathway into the professional game.

The greatest academy in the country? Thatís a daft claim. Weíve had Rooney in an age that could make an impact for a top side. Liverpool Owen Fowler Sterling gerrard TAA etc etc etc. We produce lots of okay players. We arenít close to producing anything like the quality they have
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on May 09, 2019, 06:12:07 PM
It’s not comparison - it’s what we should aspire to. It’s having a plan, rather than just waiting for the next Rooney to emerge.




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We have a plan, and that will become a lot more effective with Brands in charge.

Our plan is to integrate a way of playing from the under 9s right through to the first team, creating a clear pathway for players good enough to become members of the first team.

City and Chelsea just stockpile young players and sell them on for inflated fees with no intention of ever developing them.

 
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ross on May 09, 2019, 06:15:21 PM
The greatest academy in the country? Thatís a daft claim. Weíve had Rooney in an age that could make an impact for a top side. Liverpool Owen Fowler Sterling gerrard TAA etc etc etc. We produce lots of okay players. We arenít close to producing anything like the quality they have

Fowler was 25+ years back, Owen pretty much the same, Gerrard 20+ years ago also and Sterling was brought in for a lot of money at 16.

Basically a lifetime ago Liverpool were producing quality players until TAA and heís only just began and his career could go either way at such a young age.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 09, 2019, 06:28:44 PM
Fowler was 25+ years back, Owen pretty much the same, Gerrard 20+ years ago also and Sterling was brought in for a lot of money at 16.

Basically a lifetime ago Liverpool were producing quality players until TAA and heís only just began and his career could go either way at such a young age.


The post I quoted said 20 plus years proof weíve got the best youth system in the country. In recent times weíve spent money on buying youth talent in too.

The reality is weíve produced 1 champions league level player in probably 25 plus years. Itís not good. We make a lot of okay footballers who have decent careers.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ross on May 09, 2019, 06:37:10 PM
The post I quoted said 20 plus years proof weíve got the best youth system in the country. In recent times weíve spent money on buying youth talent in too.

The reality is weíve produced 1 champions league level player in probably 25 plus years. Itís not good. We make a lot of okay footballers who have decent careers.

Yeah and youíre going back 25 years for Fowler and Owen and then including Sterling who was bought for something like £6m as a 16 year old.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 09, 2019, 06:59:03 PM
We have a plan, and that will become a lot more effective with Brands in charge.

Our plan is to integrate a way of playing from the under 9s right through to the first team, creating a clear pathway for players good enough to become members of the first team.

City and Chelsea just stockpile young players and sell them on for inflated fees with no intention of ever developing them.

Obviously Brands was (in part) brought in to overhaul the youth set-up.


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Makis on May 09, 2019, 07:37:56 PM
If you look at Academy graduates in the Premier League Manchester United is head and shoulders above anyone else and we don't even rank in the top ten:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/revealed-premier-leagues-most-successful-9671204
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on May 09, 2019, 07:44:53 PM
We have a plan, and that will become a lot more effective with Brands in charge.

Our plan is to integrate a way of playing from the under 9s right through to the first team, creating a clear pathway for players good enough to become members of the first team.

City and Chelsea just stockpile young players and sell them on for inflated fees with no intention of ever developing them.

 

That plan sounds great, but it isn't what actually has been happening at the club like.

If someone said to you : our plan is to hold players back so they are playing for years against other kids at the same level but younger and less physically developed than them, play kick and rush football that doesn't represent at all what the first team do in an effort to get results at this level before the players leave on frees to league 1 clubs, would you say that is a good strategy?

I'm made up for the u23s and I think there's some real talent there, but I guarantee there will be some changes coming to that department.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bluestevie on May 09, 2019, 08:35:50 PM
Great result from the U23s and great to see Kenwright, Moshiri, Brands and Silva all there, though Bill's appearance seems to have rubbed some up the wrong way judging from other sites
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on May 09, 2019, 09:03:51 PM
Great result from the U23s and great to see Kenwright, Moshiri, Brands and Silva all there, though Bill's appearance seems to have rubbed some up the wrong way judging from other sites

Bill literally gave the fans money the other week and got stick,

People are bellends, they're entitled to be bellends and we're entitled to call them bellends.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Macca77 on May 09, 2019, 09:21:35 PM
Where's my fiver Bill?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on May 09, 2019, 10:02:25 PM
That plan sounds great, but it isn't what actually has been happening at the club like.

If someone said to you : our plan is to hold players back so they are playing for years against other kids at the same level but younger and less physically developed than them, play kick and rush football that doesn't represent at all what the first team do in an effort to get results at this level before the players leave on frees to league 1 clubs, would you say that is a good strategy?

I'm made up for the u23s and I think there's some real talent there, but I guarantee there will be some changes coming to that department.

That our plan is it yeah?

My mistake. Crack on fella.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: gizzblue on May 09, 2019, 11:19:09 PM
Duplicate.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: gizzblue on May 09, 2019, 11:20:35 PM
Funny really  last night watching both them teams play footy ...hardly any kick n rush between them (unjust descriptive )...and all the u23's  I've seen this year have been of comparable size weight and ability not really much difference between an 18-19-or 21 year old in reality (if your good enough your old enough and all that)...including the game last night .   
I would also welcome some changes to the youth set up if I'm honest we would all love 11Rooney types a year ...but it's never gonna be a prem player factory ....some should actually go and see the work these lads put in .. it's great to see them play for the shirt .
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on May 09, 2019, 11:51:48 PM
That our plan is it yeah?

My mistake. Crack on fella.



Well that's what's happening whether you like it or not.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on May 10, 2019, 12:08:04 AM
Well that's what's happening whether you like it or not.

Stop stating your opinions as matter of fact.

Thereís obviously changes that brands will like to make and those changes are already afoot, but unsworth deserves a lot, lot more credit than youíre wanting to give him.

As I say, I havenít watched them this season but the Ďhoofballí stuff that you talk about surprises me as they didnt play that way when I used to watch them

Three players in DCL, Davies and Kenny who are first team regular.

I donít think any changes made to the academy will change anything in terms of the amount of players that break through from the academy.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 10, 2019, 12:50:47 AM
Funny really  last night watching both them teams play footy ...hardly any kick n rush between them (unjust descriptive )...and all the u23's  I've seen this year have been of comparable size weight and ability not really much difference between an 18-19-or 21 year old in reality (if your good enough your old enough and all that)...including the game last night .   
I would also welcome some changes to the youth set up if I'm honest we would all love 11Rooney types a year ...but it's never gonna be a prem player factory ....some should actually go and see the work these lads put in .. it's great to see them play for the shirt .

The thing is though thereís not much value in playing 21-22 year olds whom we pretty much know wonít ever make it. We seem very reluctant to move some players on.

Iíd sooner do less well and give them places in the team to younger players with potential still to make it
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 10, 2019, 12:52:17 AM
Stop stating your opinions as matter of fact.

Thereís obviously changes that brands will like to make and those changes are already afoot, but unsworth deserves a lot, lot more credit than youíre wanting to give him.

As I say, I havenít watched them this season but the Ďhoofballí stuff that you talk about surprises me as they didnt play that way when I used to watch them

Three players in DCL, Davies and Kenny who are first team regular.

I donít think any changes made to the academy will change anything in terms of the amount of players that break through from the academy.

Only 1 of them 3 is a first team regular and he was bought and and will probably be replaced in the summer
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on May 10, 2019, 01:12:18 AM
Only 1 of them 3 is a first team regular and he was bought and and will probably be replaced in the summer

Theyíre all first team players.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: gizzblue on May 10, 2019, 01:46:11 AM
The thing is though thereís not much value in playing 21-22 year olds whom we pretty much know wonít ever make it. We seem very reluctant to move some players on.

Iíd sooner do less well and give them places in the team to younger players with potential still to make it

But again if they were good enough they would be old enough ,be they 18 20 22 ot even 16 as we have all seen

Let's just jib it all off at and have one group of youngsters between 15 and 22 fuck all this nurturing shite... or if they're not good enough at 15 fuck them all off ..would that suit you perchance ?.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 10, 2019, 02:00:38 AM
Theyíre all first team players.



True but I donít think anyone would be amazed if all of them didnít have a long term future in our first team. Weíd all swap all 3 for a rashford or a TAA. Weíve developed 1 top 6 standard player in about 25 years (possibly longer) 
We do okay for decent players. We donít do well for players a successful club could use. Maybe I have unrealistic expectations
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on May 10, 2019, 03:19:12 AM
Stop stating your opinions as matter of fact.

There’s obviously changes that brands will like to make and those changes are already afoot, but unsworth deserves a lot, lot more credit than you’re wanting to give him.

As I say, I haven’t watched them this season but the ‘hoofball’ stuff that you talk about surprises me as they didnt play that way when I used to watch them

Three players in DCL, Davies and Kenny who are first team regular.

I don’t think any changes made to the academy will change anything in terms of the amount of players that break through from the academy.

Fair enough, I'll reign it in.

Yeah like I say I don't think our hit rate is terrible, and I like to see us buying in players like Holgate, DCL, Lookman, talent acquisition for that level is massively important, all your kids can't come from Bootle ffs.

But, you don't think any changes made to the academy will make any difference to its success at producing players? Am I misunderstanding that or something because that seems an extremely strange thing to think.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ramjam on May 10, 2019, 10:10:04 AM
True but I don't think anyone would be amazed if all of them didn't have a long term future in our first team. We'd all swap all 3 for a rashford or a TAA. We've developed 1 top 6 standard player in about 25 years (possibly longer) 
We do okay for decent players. We don't do well for players a successful club could use. Maybe I have unrealistic expectations
Barkleyís at a top 3 side and in the final of the Europa cup we developed him as well.


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jamokachi on May 10, 2019, 10:18:17 AM
I think itís a fair point that the purpose of development sides isnít to win things. Saying that isnít disrespectful to the team, players or club, itís just stating a fact.

We all can agree that itís great seeing them win things, but itís not a true marker or indication of talent given the gulf between U23 and league 1 (even 2 maybe). Thatís where true development of players comes from. We do need to get better at shipping out these players at an earlier stage so that they can fulfill their potential.

And I think that will be the plan moving forward with Brands wanting continuity through the levels.

I do think itís a bit harsh on Unsworth to say his side plays hoofball or rush and go football. The U23s have played decent football whenever Iíve seen them. Whether that matches what we want from the 1st team is a different matter.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ramjam on May 10, 2019, 11:50:41 AM
I think it's a fair point that the purpose of development sides isn't to win things. Saying that isn't disrespectful to the team, players or club, it's just stating a fact.

We all can agree that it's great seeing them win things, but it's not a true marker or indication of talent given the gulf between U23 and league 1 (even 2 maybe). That's where true development of players comes from. We do need to get better at shipping out these players at an earlier stage so that they can fulfill their potential.

And I think that will be the plan moving forward with Brands wanting continuity through the levels.

I do think it's a bit harsh on Unsworth to say his side plays hoofball or rush and go football. The U23s have played decent football whenever I've seen them. Whether that matches what we want from the 1st team is a different matter.
Where can we go to watch the U23s from here, is it the club site or is there other options?


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on May 10, 2019, 03:22:15 PM
Fair enough, I'll reign it in.

Yeah like I say I don't think our hit rate is terrible, and I like to see us buying in players like Holgate, DCL, Lookman, talent acquisition for that level is massively important, all your kids can't come from Bootle ffs.

But, you don't think any changes made to the academy will make any difference to its success at producing players? Am I misunderstanding that or something because that seems an extremely strange thing to think.

Might be a slight improvement, but I donít see anything changing significantly to be honest.

How many premier league teams constantly churn out players from the academy for the first team?

What brands will do here is nothing different to what a lot of teams are already doing.

I think weíve had a good record over recent years in producing players from the academy anyway.

Only thing I see changing that much is turning youngsters over for profit, instead of flogging them to the age of 21/22 and releasing them.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on May 10, 2019, 04:19:53 PM
Might be a slight improvement, but I donít see anything changing significantly to be honest.

How many premier league teams constantly churn out players from the academy for the first team?

What brands will do here is nothing different to what a lot of teams are already doing.

I think weíve had a good record over recent years in producing players from the academy anyway.

Only thing I see changing that much is turning youngsters over for profit, instead of flogging them to the age of 21/22 and releasing them.

Right well agree to disagree I suppose.

I think he was lauded for his work with PSV's academy but different environment innit.

Don't think anyone regular produces first team players really, very difficult, but yeah one of the most important things would be to provide income instead of releasing them on frees.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Toddacelli on May 10, 2019, 04:46:01 PM
Fuckinell have I just read?



Well done the U23's!


Sake.

 shakeyheadman
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jamokachi on May 10, 2019, 08:59:35 PM
Where can we go to watch the U23s from here, is it the club site or is there other options?


there's been a few games broadcast on youtube
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 15, 2019, 02:59:35 PM
Nathan Broadhead got U23 player of the year, at the Dixieís. Anyone seen much of him?


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Gary1878 on May 15, 2019, 09:02:45 PM
I have watched the U23s twice this season, and the kind of football they were playing was similar to the first team.

Lots of passes through the central midfield area, good wide play, and good use of the front man to hold the ball up. Lots of short passing, and lots of switching of play was utilized to stretch the pitch for guys like Bowler to get one on one with the opposition fullback.

It's a really good base to work from, and if you can win whilst producing quality players for the first team, then it can only be defined as successful.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: gizzblue on May 15, 2019, 11:13:11 PM
I have watched the U23s twice this season, and the kind of football they were playing was similar to the first team.

Lots of passes through the central midfield area, good wide play, and good use of the front man to hold the ball up. Lots of short passing, and lots of switching of play was utilized to stretch the pitch for guys like Bowler to get one on one with the opposition fullback.

It's a really good base to work from, and if you can win whilst producing quality players for the first team, then it can only be defined as successful.

So a far cry from the "kick and rush " or the "hoofball" that some claim the u23's play constantly ...


Glad it wasn't just me thought they actually played footy quite well .
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on May 16, 2019, 12:03:27 AM
So a far cry from the "kick and rush " or the "hoofball" that some claim the u23's play constantly ...


Glad it wasn't just me thought they actually played footy quite well .

Yeah but gaz also seems to think the first team play lots of passes through the centre of midfield so you know, pinch of salt.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: gizzblue on May 16, 2019, 12:08:47 AM
Yeah but gaz also seems to think the first team play lots of passes through the centre of midfield so you know, pinch of salt.

Funny I thought he said 'similar to the first team'  ....and we do actually go through the midfield then to the wings ...so yano ...opinion . ..and he's only seen two u23 games ...must have been actually watching to be so observant  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on May 16, 2019, 12:10:49 AM
Funny I thought he said 'similar to the first team'  ....and we do actually go through the midfield then to the wings ...so yano ...opinion . ..and he's only seen two u23 games ...must have been actually watching to be so observant  :thumbsup:

We do to be fair, we just don't play through very well. Switching it is true though.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on May 21, 2019, 09:45:05 PM
Unsworth, Everton Giant
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on May 22, 2019, 07:09:36 PM
Broadhead in senior Wales squad
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 22, 2019, 07:49:11 PM
Broadhead in senior Wales squad
Hopefully itíll be a good shop window for him.


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jamokachi on May 23, 2019, 04:54:08 AM
Hopefully it'll be a good shop window for him.


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Itís just a training camp I think.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 23, 2019, 04:58:53 AM
It's just a training camp I think.
It's the squad for the euro qualifiers coming up. That said, it's a big squad so it may well be that
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on May 23, 2019, 05:14:07 AM
Let Pawel Zuk go and he's been signed up by a Polish club.

Not sure I've seen a list anywhere of contracts signed and released though?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jamokachi on May 23, 2019, 03:45:21 PM
It's the squad for the euro qualifiers coming up. That said, it's a big squad so it may well be that

It's the preliminary squad for a training camp in Portugal. From there they'll decide on playing squad (at least that's usually what happens).

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2019-05-21/giggs-selects-bale-in-wales-euro-2020-squad-for-portugal-training-camp/
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on May 23, 2019, 09:30:46 PM
Broadhead played in every U23 game and also won U18 player of the season a few years back, plus scored both goals in 2-0 win over Liverpool

Just turned 21 and contracted until next year, don't think he's ever been loaned out

Good prospect but probably not with us

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bigmanbob on May 24, 2019, 03:15:56 PM
Broadhead played in every U23 game and also won U18 player of the season a few years back
And this years U23 award
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on May 24, 2019, 04:01:33 PM
Broadhead played in every U23 game and also won U18 player of the season a few years back, plus scored both goals in 2-0 win over Liverpool

Just turned 21 and contracted until next year, don't think he's ever been loaned out

Good prospect but probably not with us



Sounds like he was a good prospect, a few years ago. Cue a loan move to Wigan then.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 24, 2019, 04:30:30 PM
Sounds like he was a good prospect, a few years ago. Cue a loan move to Wigan then.
Teams like Utd and the shite are really good at selling players before everyone else realises theyíre not good enough. I know they receive a premium, given their status but I still feel this is an area we need to improve in. I honestly believe Liverpool wouldíve made £20m on Galloway and Garbutt.


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on May 27, 2019, 04:45:54 PM
Teams like Utd and the shite are really good at selling players before everyone else realises they’re not good enough. I know they receive a premium, given their status but I still feel this is an area we need to improve in. I honestly believe Liverpool would’ve made £20m on Galloway and Garbutt.


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They managed to get Bournemouth for example to part with nearly £40m for Solanke, Jordan Ibe and Brad Smith, which is unreal.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Alanvideo on May 27, 2019, 05:25:58 PM
Sounds like he was a good prospect, a few years ago. Cue a loan move to Wigan then.
...........he'd probably develop more at Wigan or wherever ,playing against established pro's.   I don't see the point of U23's playing year after year against other U23's .
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Trowel on May 27, 2019, 06:45:06 PM
Davies injured, out of the U21s. Lookman also missed the final squad.

https://twitter.com/DominicKing_DM/status/1132974914259095557
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on June 01, 2019, 06:34:21 PM
Shane Lavery had joined Linfield.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on June 02, 2019, 04:26:17 AM
Still not sure why they havenít given out the released list. Maybe waiting until Baines decides what heís doing?


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bigmanbob on June 03, 2019, 10:41:10 PM
I read before it is out on Friday
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: D15TIN on June 03, 2019, 11:08:00 PM
Think were all waiting eagerly to see Ashley Williams' name on that
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on June 05, 2019, 08:12:05 PM
Pennington on the verge of another loan.

Another victory for the blues academy, giving average players 3 year contracts and loaning them out again and again to lose what minimal value they have before they eventually leave on a free.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on June 05, 2019, 08:38:49 PM
Pennington on the verge of another loan.

Another victory for the blues academy, giving average players 3 year contracts and loaning them out again and again to lose what minimal value they have before they eventually leave on a free.

Itís ridiculous heís still at the club. Heís a lower league player and everyone knows it
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on June 05, 2019, 08:49:36 PM
Derby were interested in Pennington in Jan, and he had a good season at Ipswich, by all accounts. Heís a solid enough Championship player.

The board obviously gave him a contract so they could cash in on him, but thatís not happened so theyíve had to settle with loaning him out. There are plenty of mid to lower Championship level teams heíd be good for, but apart from the handful of teams trying to get into the Prem, there isnít much money in that league.


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on June 05, 2019, 08:54:19 PM
Derby were interested in Pennington in Jan, and he had a good season at Ipswich, by all accounts. Heís a solid enough Championship player.

The board obviously gave him a contract so they could cash in on him, but thatís not happened so theyíve had to settle with loaning him out. There are plenty of mid to lower Championship level teams heíd be good for, but apart from the handful of teams trying to get into the Prem, there isnít much money in that league.


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We donít seem to understand that in some cases nothing is the better value. With Pennington there was no value to protect
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: D15TIN on June 05, 2019, 10:01:11 PM
Pennington will make a decent career for himself in the football league, he'll probably be another still at Everton in his late 20s getting loaned out, garbutt, Galloway, tarashaj etc
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on June 06, 2019, 02:01:54 PM
Pennington will make a decent career for himself in the football league, he'll probably be another still at Everton in his late 20s getting loaned out, garbutt, Galloway, tarashaj etc

Iíd question the word Ďdecent.í Heíll have a career no doubt but jumping from one team/manager/style to the next in your key years and not progressing ability wise means heís probably missed the boat when it comes to kicking on and fulfilling what potential he had.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on June 06, 2019, 03:36:19 PM
The previous route of binning off fringe players to the Championship seems to have dried up in recent years. I suppose why would a club buy someone like Pennington when you can loan him and not take on that financial burden of a long term contract? Every PL club will have a dozen decent players not getting a game - almost a victim of their own success, with these bloated squads. The market of teams to sell on to, is seemingly shrinking as the PL money train rolls ever onwards!


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on June 06, 2019, 04:39:49 PM
The previous route of binning off fringe players to the Championship seems to have dried up in recent years. I suppose why would a club buy someone like Pennington when you can loan him and not take on that financial burden of a long term contract? Every PL club will have a dozen decent players not getting a game - almost a victim of their own success, with these bloated squads. The market of teams to sell on to, is seemingly shrinking as the PL money train rolls ever onwards!


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Donít disagree but why then do we give new contracts to the likes of him and mirallas when thereís no value to protect. Just let them go on frees
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Ramjam on June 06, 2019, 04:46:22 PM
Don't disagree but why then do we give new contracts to the likes of him and mirallas when there's no value to protect. Just let them go on frees
It was the previous regime wasnít it, letís hope those days are a distant past and once we get all the shit out and completely clear the decks then we can have a much clearer sight of where we are gonna. At the moment we canít see the forest for the trees but it wonít always be like that.


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on June 06, 2019, 06:26:47 PM
Donít disagree but why then do we give new contracts to the likes of him and mirallas when thereís no value to protect. Just let them go on frees

A misguided notion that a few quid in transfer fees outweighs the salary commitments. The third way, which we seem to fall into unfortunately, is get stuck with the commitments and no hope of a fee to get rid of them.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Makis on June 06, 2019, 08:09:48 PM
The previous route of binning off fringe players to the Championship seems to have dried up in recent years. I suppose why would a club buy someone like Pennington when you can loan him and not take on that financial burden of a long term contract? Every PL club will have a dozen decent players not getting a game - almost a victim of their own success, with these bloated squads. The market of teams to sell on to, is seemingly shrinking as the PL money train rolls ever onwards!
Well, if they believe the player will improve they would lose out.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: D15TIN on June 06, 2019, 08:25:55 PM
we will get small loan fees when loaning these players out too, for the likes of bolasie, besic & mirallas anyway
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on June 06, 2019, 10:26:01 PM
we will get small loan fees when loaning these players out too, for the likes of bolasie, besic & mirallas anyway

Think itís more likely we are still covering wages for bolasie and mirallas than getting a fee when we loan them
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 10, 2019, 09:13:16 PM
https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/1138083403390234625
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 28, 2019, 01:52:24 PM
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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 17, 2019, 12:57:01 AM


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 19, 2019, 02:03:23 PM
Charsley and Evans still starting games, unbelievable.

I find it very odd that Brands is seemingly disinterested in the U23s or the academy. Thought there wouldíve been a root and branch overhaul by now. Maybe our hands are somewhat tied by the ban, or heís just had a lot on his plate, sorting out the first team.


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on September 19, 2019, 03:10:18 PM
Charsley and Evans still starting games, unbelievable.

I find it very odd that Brands is seemingly disinterested in the U23s or the academy. Thought there wouldíve been a root and branch overhaul by now. Maybe our hands are somewhat tied by the ban, or heís just had a lot on his plate, sorting out the first team.


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He attends fairly regularly I believe, but I am finding it hard to believe there aren't sweeping changes coming.

We just don't produce prem players, and we desperately need to. Feels like some improvement in regards to loans this year, but there's players that should be playing mens football like. I've no idea whatsoever why players we've released are starting over players on our books.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: TheRam on September 19, 2019, 03:36:59 PM
He didnít bother with it in the first year because there was so much to do regarding the first team and setting up scouting networks.

Iím sure thereís work in progress and weíll see changes soon.

I reckon the biggest issue is sorting out decent loans for these players.

I see Virginia has been dropped at reading so thatís a year wasted for him. This happens too much and the players start going backwards.

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on September 19, 2019, 03:42:45 PM
Should do a mini salzburg / leipzig model imo.

Worked wonders for Chelsea as well with their relationship with vitesse.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Old England Toffee on September 20, 2019, 02:44:36 AM
He attends fairly regularly I believe, but I am finding it hard to believe there aren't sweeping changes coming.

We just don't produce prem players, and we desperately need to.

Do you think in terms of youth players breaking through and being prem league standard is down to 'producing' or its more important the actual finding. I mean if you look at chelsea now for example or man utds 'kids' was it something that they did in nurturing and developing those players or just a case of having the best scouting and the most attractive propositions for the best young talent. Id imagine it is the latter but I genuinely dont know how important the setup is for development.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Gash on September 20, 2019, 04:22:56 AM
Chelsea aren't a great example, they loan out about 25 young players a year, very few if any ever make it at the club. When Abramovich hired Frank Arnesen he was seen as the man to bring on the young players, something like £60m later not one academy player had turned out for the first team. Josh McEachren was the first player since John Terry about 10-12 years earlier to come through academy and he hasn't exactly gone on to great things.

It took Chelsea years to get a decent structure in place after their take over, it will quite probably take us the same.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on September 20, 2019, 05:18:23 AM
Do you think in terms of youth players breaking through and being prem league standard is down to 'producing' or its more important the actual finding. I mean if you look at chelsea now for example or man utds 'kids' was it something that they did in nurturing and developing those players or just a case of having the best scouting and the most attractive propositions for the best young talent. Id imagine it is the latter but I genuinely dont know how important the setup is for development.

Errr I think it's a mix of

Good scouting and identification (RBL)
Good catchment area (PSG)
Good 'use of the rules' shall we say (City, Us)
Good coaching throughout the age groups (Chelsea, City, RBL,)
Good pathways into first team football, here or elsewhere from as early as possible (Chelsea, RBL)

Probably lots more but for me the most important thing is coaching and pathways. The most talented player in the world for their age group will wilt if they aren't coached correctly, and if they don't get mens football (w good coaching at an appropriate level) as soon as possible.

Re Chelsea : they've not got many into the first team but they run it as a business, get them a pathway into first team togger on the continent or in the championship then sell. Arguably the best academy in the Premier league to be honest.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: BlueForYou on September 22, 2019, 05:57:22 PM
Gordon netted again yesterday; his current form deserves a first team squad call up for League Cup on Tuesday

And Simms opened his U23 goalscoring account last week
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on September 23, 2019, 10:43:57 PM
Are we still playing players due to be released by the club?

Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on September 23, 2019, 11:30:52 PM
Are we still playing players due to be released by the club?



No, they've been released and we're still playing them.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Shogun on September 23, 2019, 11:44:06 PM
No, they've been released and we're still playing them.

Understand that we want to provide these lads with the opportunity of a career in the lower leagues but come on, theyíve had their opportunity.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: kramer0 on September 24, 2019, 02:56:03 AM
Unsworth needs to go.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: bluestevie on September 24, 2019, 05:59:47 AM
Unsworth needs to go.

Why?
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 24, 2019, 12:53:17 PM
Why?
He picks a team to win, not to develop.


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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Lxxx on September 24, 2019, 01:57:28 PM
Chelsea aren't a great example, they loan out about 25 young players a year, very few if any ever make it at the club. When Abramovich hired Frank Arnesen he was seen as the man to bring on the young players, something like £60m later not one academy player had turned out for the first team. Josh McEachren was the first player since John Terry about 10-12 years earlier to come through academy and he hasn't exactly gone on to great things.

It took Chelsea years to get a decent structure in place after their take over, it will quite probably take us the same.

I think Chelsea's model is decent, it's just not utilised correctly.

They produce good players, their loan system works well, they make a lot of money but the final piece of the jigsaw is the short termism of their managerial appointments. There is no incentive for managers to take a chance on young players when they know they'll be binned off if immediate results aren't forthcoming. They might have stumbled upon a way forward with Lampard and the current transfer ban but it remains to be see if they have any more patience once that washes through.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: kramer0 on September 24, 2019, 11:34:26 PM
He picks a team to win, not to develop.


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This. He tends to pick older players who should be out on loan (or released, in some cases) because he knows can win that way.

It stunts the development of those players AND our most talented U18s, who should be turning out regularly for the U23s because they'll learn more at that level.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: sam of the south on September 28, 2019, 05:12:23 AM
Evans and Simms on target


Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on September 28, 2019, 05:16:20 AM
Anthony Gordon taking the absolute Micheal

https://twitter.com/EvertonNewsFeed/status/1177703776511287296?s=19
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: sam of the south on September 28, 2019, 02:23:22 PM
Anthony Gordon taking the absolute Micheal

https://twitter.com/EvertonNewsFeed/status/1177703776511287296?s=19

If he doesnít make it Iíll eat my own wang
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: gizzblue on September 29, 2019, 06:10:08 AM
Anthony Gordon taking the absolute Micheal

https://twitter.com/EvertonNewsFeed/status/1177703776511287296?s=19

Got everything this lad already ...needs a few games in the full squad .
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Makis on September 29, 2019, 04:11:31 PM
He had much more time and space than the would in the PL. And what happens when he doesn't score a couple of goals  in his first few matches? Fans will start telling how he will never make it.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on September 29, 2019, 04:20:26 PM
We don't need to rush him into the first team, we just need to make sure there's a reasonable pathway to mens football, eventually leading to first team footy at Everton.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Dr. Sponge on September 29, 2019, 04:28:50 PM
We don't need to rush him into the first team, we just need to make sure there's a reasonable pathway to mens football, eventually leading to first team footy at Everton.
Yeah he's cracked U23 level now, he needs a loan to a League 1 club.

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Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 02, 2019, 04:05:17 AM
Good win against Burton tonight

Means fuck all like but hey
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on October 02, 2019, 04:17:40 AM
Tried watching it but was on baba duty and stuff an all.

Adeniran looked good again I think. Quite high on him on the sly. Markelo energetic but lacking a bit of quality at times.

Gordon didn't impress me as much as I was hoping. Obviously has ability but drifted in and out and didn't turn the screw, don't know how much of that is tactics or whatever. Reminds me a lot of Ross Barkley at 17/18 to be honest, but built more like dowell.

Simms...yeah, I'm not sure to be honest. Very 'raw' on the ball, but managed to bag another goal (that I missed tbh).
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 02, 2019, 04:19:50 AM
Big Dennis is training with the first team apparently

I'll stand by my simms shout of getting nowhere near the first team
Tried watching it but was on baba duty and stuff an all.

Adeniran looked good again I think. Quite high on him on the sly. Markelo energetic but lacking a bit of quality at times.

Gordon didn't impress me as much as I was hoping. Obviously has ability but drifted in and out and didn't turn the screw, don't know how much of that is tactics or whatever. Reminds me a lot of Ross Barkley at 17/18 to be honest, but built more like dowell.

Simms...yeah, I'm not sure to be honest. Very 'raw' on the ball, but managed to bag another goal (that I missed tbh).
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: brap2 on October 02, 2019, 04:36:09 AM
Big Dennis is training with the first team apparently

I'll stand by my simms shout of getting nowhere near the first team

Yeah heard that before. Think he needs a loan myself, Dirty Den.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 04, 2019, 01:42:28 AM
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/16-year-old-everton-striker-17019282

New name for the foaming screaming mass to pin their hopes on
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: sam of the south on October 04, 2019, 01:54:07 AM
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/16-year-old-everton-striker-17019282

New name for the foaming screaming mass to pin their hopes on

He canít wait to gallop in front of the Paddock.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on October 05, 2019, 08:18:09 PM
Smashed 6-1 In the u18 mini derby today.
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: toffee_scot on October 17, 2019, 12:30:16 AM
Just seen former Everton youth player Calum Dyson has had to retire at 23 due to ankle injury

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50070022
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: kerryblue boy on October 18, 2019, 11:49:12 PM
Why is it that we havenít tied down Lewis Gibson to a long term contract talk of him rejoining Newcastle in January on a free we paid £6 million for him three years ago he looks promising to me a bit light but good on the ball
Title: Re: The u23 thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 18, 2019, 11:51:50 PM
I'd be amazed if its 6m up front but agree with the rest
Why is it that we haven't tied down Lewis Gibson to a long term contract talk of him rejoining Newcastle in January on a free we paid £6 million for him three years ago he looks promising to me a bit light but good on the ball