Post by: Jimmywhack on January 31, 2017, 11:07:57 PM
I'll kick it off with this assured pen last night
https://twitter.com/simonwatt1/status/826169435413237760
Post by: Thornton_19 on January 31, 2017, 11:13:34 PM
Post by: Confucius on January 31, 2017, 11:13:54 PM
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 31, 2017, 11:14:01 PM
Post by: TheRam on January 31, 2017, 11:15:13 PM
Seems to be getting more and more interest lately regarding how they get on, signings etc so a thread maybe nice to keep upto date
I'll kick it off with this assured pen last night
https://twitter.com/simonwatt1/status/826169435413237760
Give that lad the armband
Post by: Bally on February 01, 2017, 12:05:44 AM
Their last game of the season is against Liverpool. If they can or already have won the league by then we should totally have that game at GoodisonGot a message on twitter about this, I have put it to the fans forum to see if there's anything we can do to persuade for that to happen, it may already be in the planning though.
Post by: Toddacelli on February 01, 2017, 12:14:00 AM
Got a message on twitter about this, I have put it to the fans forum to see if there's anything we can do to persuade for that to happen, it may already be in the planning though.
They've got my vote Bally - make sure you tell them that!
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on February 01, 2017, 12:53:35 AM
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Post by: pjk on February 01, 2017, 01:03:27 AM
That penalty is mint. I can smell the Utd keepers fume from here. Twat.
Serves their keeper right giving it the big one. He looks a bit feisty young Sambou. :)
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 01, 2017, 01:26:32 AM
Post by: Confucius on February 01, 2017, 01:52:04 AM
Who played 14 last night? Someone on a Utd forum said they couldn't cope with him at all
Donkor
Post by: American Evertonian on February 01, 2017, 02:04:50 AM
Donkor
Lookman on one wing and Donkor on the other. Bright future if they live up to the hype.
Post by: Danny on February 01, 2017, 03:05:56 AM
Post by: bigmanbob on February 01, 2017, 03:17:49 AM
Are we six clear now?Yep, City who are 2nd drew 3-3
Post by: Craig_1878 on February 01, 2017, 04:29:57 AM
Donkor
It was Sambou - Donkor was No 11.
He looks an exciting prospect does Sambou, quick and has an eye for goal.
Liam Walsh has looked a tidy player whenever I've seen him too.
Post by: Outworlder47 on February 07, 2017, 02:55:12 AM
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 07, 2017, 02:56:16 AM
City won earlier to cut the gap to 3 points. Our U23s are in action against Arsenal, and just went up 1-0 in the 86th minute through Nathan Broadhead. Looks like that's the final, so we restore the 6 point lead atop the table!Thought broadbend had left
Post by: brap2 on February 07, 2017, 03:44:18 AM
Post by: TheRam on February 07, 2017, 04:33:26 AM
Impressive
Post by: Thornton_19 on February 07, 2017, 05:41:26 AM
Post by: Outworlder47 on February 07, 2017, 05:47:05 AM
Am i right in thinking there are 6 games left?
Looks like it. Southampton, at Manchester City, at Derby, Tottenham, at Chelsea, and Liverpool. The City game is massive, as we could potentially open up a 9 point gap with four games remaining, and conceivably wrap up the title the following match.
Post by: bigmanbob on February 07, 2017, 01:44:47 PM
Thought broadbend had leftNope there was an Echo article on hima couple of weeks ago, he's another they've high hopes for
Post by: bigmanbob on February 07, 2017, 01:46:28 PM
City won earlier to cut the gap to 3 points. Our U23s are in action against Arsenal, and just went up 1-0 in the 86th minute through Nathan Broadhead. Looks like that's the final, so we restore the 6 point lead atop the table!Sounded like awful conditions, the report I read said Donkor struggled a bit last night but the defense was absolutely unbreakable lead expertly by Matthew Pennington
Post by: Macca77 on February 07, 2017, 02:53:25 PM
Post by: Lxxx on February 07, 2017, 03:52:50 PM
The future is looking really good
We just need to make sure we utilise the loan system well to ensure we get decent amounts for ones who won't make it here. Like the shite seem to do.
Post by: Hawkandro on February 07, 2017, 06:12:49 PM
Thought broadbend had left
Nathan Holland left to join West Ham. Broadhead is meant to be very highly rated. Natural goalscorer (I read somewhere) apparently.
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 07, 2017, 06:29:27 PM
Nathan Holland left to join West Ham. Broadhead is meant to be very highly rated. Natural goalscorer (I read somewhere) apparently.Thought Id read two lads had played for Stoke (I think) with the thoughts of leaving
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 07, 2017, 07:26:55 PM
Thought Id read two lads had played for Stoke (I think) with the thoughts of leavingwas definitely 2. I read that article. No clue who though
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 07, 2017, 07:31:23 PM
Bainbridge broadbend
Tomato tomatoe
Post by: Lxxx on February 07, 2017, 08:11:37 PM
Post by: pjk on February 07, 2017, 08:22:39 PM
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/02/07/faultless-pennington-led-the-way
Post by: Lxxx on February 07, 2017, 08:31:03 PM
Post by: TheRam on February 07, 2017, 08:46:43 PM
Always impressed me when I've seen him play. He got an injury at the worst possible time.
I think he'll be in contention of Baines gets injured.
I do worry that he and browning may get lost in the shuffle.
Post by: Lxxx on February 07, 2017, 08:51:18 PM
Pennington coming in for some serious praise.
Always impressed me when I've seen him play. He got an injury at the worst possible time.
I think he'll be in contention of Baines gets injured.
I do worry that he and browning may get lost in the shuffle.
Pennington is right footed though ain't he? I'm not sure if he'll come into the same category as Galloway/Garbutt/Robinson on the left.
Post by: TheRam on February 07, 2017, 08:53:34 PM
Pennington is right footed though ain't he? I'm not sure if he'll come into the same category as Galloway/Garbutt/Robinson on the left.
Galloways out on loan.
Garbutt trains with the under 23s
And is Robinson any good? Can't say I've heard of him tbh
Pennington is already very versatile so I think he could perform the role if required
Post by: bigmanbob on February 07, 2017, 09:01:07 PM
Thought Id read two lads had played for Stoke (I think) with the thoughts of leavingHow unfortunate for them, I could think of nothing worse
Post by: Hawkandro on February 07, 2017, 10:44:17 PM
Post by: Confucius on February 07, 2017, 11:01:36 PM
Post by: Rhys on February 07, 2017, 11:41:05 PM
Pennington seems to be getting lots of plaudits today. I know he's been injured for a while and he's now 22 but is he good enough to make it? Anyone seen much of him? He seemed to be overlooked in the Browning/Stones/Holgate hype.
Only seen him limited times but I dont think he will make it at us, seems the type that will end up going to a Championship team and could then rise into becoming a premier league level defender. He isnt massive, not small either but I'm unsure whether he lacks a bit of pace but certainly seems like he knows how to defend when ive seen him at various levels.
Given we are heavily linked with Keane and VVD, looked like we tried for Manolas etc a major centre half signing is one of our priorities. If we get that signing, have Williams, Mori, Holgate ahead of him then it's hard to see where he will get many games. At his age 22 it is getting to the point where he is that far down the order that he himself must be thinking is it better to look down the Forshaw route and go and play week in week out at a lower level and build a career.
Post by: Lxxx on February 07, 2017, 11:46:20 PM
Only seen him limited times but I dont think he will make it at us, seems the type that will end up going to a Championship team and could then rise into becoming a premier league level defender. He isnt massive, not small either but I'm unsure whether he lacks a bit of pace but certainly seems like he knows how to defend when ive seen him at various levels.
Given we are heavily linked with Keane and VVD, looked like we tried for Manolas etc a major centre half signing is one of our priorities. If we get that signing, have Williams, Mori, Holgate ahead of him then it's hard to see where he will get many games. At his age 22 it is getting to the point where he is that far down the order that he himself must be thinking is it better to look down the Forshaw route and go and play week in week out at a lower level and build a career.
Let's get him out on loan to a decent championship side so that we can put him in the shop window and get some proper money for him then. Letting his contract run down after a stint at somewhere like Oxford is what the old Everton used to do with our half decent prospects.
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 07, 2017, 11:55:32 PM
Let's get him out on loan to a decent championship side so that we can put him in the shop window and get some proper money for him then. Letting his contract run down after a stint at somewhere like Oxford is what the old Everton used to do with our half decent prospects.Bournemouth were willing to pay 6m for a lad from Liverpool who barely played for Liverpool..... we really don't make enough money off our young lads
Post by: Lxxx on February 08, 2017, 12:02:40 AM
Bournemouth were willing to pay 6m for a lad from Liverpool who barely played for Liverpool..... we really don't make enough money off our young lads
They also got £15m for a lad who had barely done anything but just because Rodgers called him the new Raheem Sterling it got everyone excited.
We'll never get the value the shite get but something would be nice.
Post by: Ross on February 08, 2017, 12:21:02 AM
We've a duty of career after all and still need to help them make the most of their career and talent as an when a decision is made to move them on.
Post by: brap2 on February 08, 2017, 12:26:13 AM
Galloways out on loan.
Garbutt trains with the under 23s
And is Robinson any good? Can't say I've heard of him tbh
Pennington is already very versatile so I think he could perform the role if required
Highly rated Robinson, despite being mega young like 17/18 I think??
Post by: Lxxx on February 08, 2017, 12:33:45 AM
Much rather we do right by the academy graduates that don't make the grade here and look to set them on the best career path for themselves rather than worry about making a few million pound here and there.
We've a duty of career after all and still need to help them make the most of their career and talent as an when a decision is made to move them on.
Which is why striving to send them out on loan at the highest possible level is the best we can do for them. I clearly don't know the ins and outs but players like Ledson for example, who was highly rated by everyone not just within the club but at international level, finds himself at Oxford and others like him find themselves lost in the lower leagues. Whereas the shite's obscure reserves find themselves still at a decent level when they move on.
I think the more professional setup we have now will reap dividends not just for us but for the kids as well.
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on February 08, 2017, 12:50:35 AM
They also got £15m for a lad who had barely done anything but just because Rodgers called him the new Raheem Sterling it got everyone excited.I feel sorry for these young lads with the terrible black stain on their souls.....
We'll never get the value the shite get but something would be nice.
Post by: Ross on February 08, 2017, 12:56:07 AM
Which is why striving to send them out on loan at the highest possible level is the best we can do for them. I clearly don't know the ins and outs but players like Ledson for example, who was highly rated by everyone not just within the club but at international level, finds himself at Oxford and others like him find themselves lost in the lower leagues. Whereas the shite's obscure reserves find themselves still at a decent level when they move on.
I think the more professional setup we have now will reap dividends not just for us but for the kids as well.
No sending them to the club that offers them the best possible opportunities of advancement is the right thing to for them, you only have to see how Galloway has fared this season at West Brom to see that. If he'd have gone to Newcastle or Derby it's likely he'd have came back in the summer with 40 odd senior games under his belt rather than having spent 40 odd games sat on his backside. Sadly we decided to prioritise the money over the players advancement and we and him will be worse off for it in the long run.
I can't believe youre making a comparison to the shite as well. Our academy has proven far superior over the last 20+ years in comparison to theirs. We've produced footballers fit for the premiership time and again in that period, saving ourselves multiple millions in the process, as well as launching dozens of local kids into professional football.
It's a ridiculous point, the sale of Wayne Rooney alone has probably eclipsed whatever the shite have gained from their graduate sales in the last 20 years, that's before you factor in the fees for Rodwell, Anichebe, Vaughan.....
All we need to do is carry on doing right by individual like we have been, it's clearly working.
Do right by each and every graduate and don't treat them as pieces of meat.
Post by: Lxxx on February 08, 2017, 01:46:43 AM
No sending them to the club that offers them the best possible opportunities of advancement is the right thing to for them, you only have to see how Galloway has fared this season at West Brom to see that. If he'd have gone to Newcastle or Derby it's likely he'd have came back in the summer with 40 odd senior games under his belt rather than having spent 40 odd games sat on his backside. Sadly we decided to prioritise the money over the players advancement and we and him will be worse off for it in the long run.
I can't believe youre making a comparison to the shite as well. Our academy has proven far superior over the last 20+ years in comparison to theirs. We've produced footballers fit for the premiership time and again in that period, saving ourselves multiple millions in the process, as well as launching dozens of local kids into professional football.
It's a ridiculous point, the sale of Wayne Rooney alone has probably eclipsed whatever the shite have gained from their graduate sales in the last 20 years, that's before you factor in the fees for Rodwell, Anichebe, Vaughan.....
All we need to do is carry on doing right by individual like we have been, it's clearly working.
Do right by each and every graduate and don't treat them as pieces of meat.
There was nothing wrong with the Galloway loan in principle, he'd be getting valuable experience at the top level under a defensive manager. He started the season playing in the 1st team but a run of poor form and the failure to put in a recall clause meant it wasn't as beneficial as planned. It was definitely worth a shot.
As I said, the new setup we have across the whole club will benefit everyone concerned now from top to bottom.
Post by: Hawkandro on February 08, 2017, 01:55:32 AM
Post by: Ross on February 08, 2017, 04:44:42 AM
There was nothing wrong with the Galloway loan in principle, he'd be getting valuable experience at the top level under a defensive manager. He started the season playing in the 1st team but a run of poor form and the failure to put in a recall clause meant it wasn't as beneficial as planned. It was definitely worth a shot.
As I said, the new setup we have across the whole club will benefit everyone concerned now from top to bottom.
What apart from the simple fact Pulis has no history of developing young talent?
He was taken in as back up when they had an injury crisis and as soon as senior players were fit they took his place. It wasn't to do with form that he was dropped, because Galloways form was fine, in fact they did quite well in the 3 games he started in if I recall correctly. It was just a poor choice of club and just because they're a premiership club, a "big club", shouldn't come into it for what should be obvious reasons.
I'm also pretty sure you can't place a recall option when it's a long term loan is between two premiership clubs.
Post by: Jamokachi on February 08, 2017, 05:02:06 AM
Much rather we do right by the academy graduates that don't make the grade here and look to set them on the best career path for themselves rather than worry about making a few million pound here and there.
We've a duty of career after all and still need to help them make the most of their career and talent as an when a decision is made to move them on.
Was about to say the very same. Thankfully I think this is the attitude we have, the Jose Baxter situation being an indication of such.
Post by: Bob Sacamano on February 08, 2017, 05:21:45 AM
It takes three to tango. They wanted him, he wanted to go, we wanted him to prove that he's Prem standard. Let's get the deal done.
I don't remember anyone moaning that he went there, with many enthused that it was smart business. At the end of the day it's Galloway' a fault that he can't overtake Chris Brunt as West Brom's left back.
Seems like someone continues to make shit up just to argue with people on the internet.
Post by: Rhys on February 08, 2017, 06:14:35 AM
What apart from the simple fact Pulis has no history of developing young talent?
He was taken in as back up when they had an injury crisis and as soon as senior players were fit they took his place. It wasn't to do with form that he was dropped, because Galloways form was fine, in fact they did quite well in the 3 games he started in if I recall correctly. It was just a poor choice of club and just because they're a premiership club, a "big club", shouldn't come into it for what should be obvious reasons.
I'm also pretty sure you can't place a recall option when it's a long term loan is between two premiership clubs.
Chelsea did with ake which is why they brought him back in January.
Post by: Jamokachi on February 08, 2017, 09:13:51 AM
At West Brom he's behind some good players in that West Brom team, guys who are having a great season. There's no shame in not being able to force his way in. Neither is he a left back by trade. We played him there and he looked alright but he's a centre back. Given Pulis' penchant for absolute cloggers at the back does Galloway actually fit the mold?
More realistically West Brom saw a cheap option of providing cover for their defence. If we are interested in the development of the player and see him as a long term option this isn't good for us. Neither is it good for the player.
Perhaps we don't see his future with us? Perhaps we were lead on by West Brom and this was their intentions all along? Perhaps Pulis simply doesn't rate Galloway as much as he thought he did and plans have changed?
If we do see his future with us, then West Brom was the wrong option. That much is obvious.
Post by: Major Clanger on February 08, 2017, 04:31:25 PM
Chelsea did with ake which is why they brought him back in January.
Which is weird because there really used to be a rule like that.
Post by: bigmanbob on February 08, 2017, 07:04:17 PM
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Post by: WeimaranerBlues on February 08, 2017, 11:16:30 PM
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/02/08/blues-urged-to-support-inspirational-u23s
Half term as well Monday night sorted
Post by: brap2 on February 09, 2017, 03:54:50 AM
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/02/08/blues-urged-to-support-inspirational-u23s
Do they serve bevvies at U23 games?
Post by: dazfrancis on February 26, 2017, 10:39:05 PM
Post by: Lxxx on February 26, 2017, 11:05:44 PM
Don;t know if he's still U23 but Conor McAleny scored a hattrick for Oxford United yesterday
He's in the U33's these days.
Post by: Toddacelli on February 27, 2017, 12:32:14 AM
He's in the U33's these days.
With Yakubu
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Post by: Audrey Horne on March 04, 2017, 12:35:47 AM
Big game against City tonight in the league. Think it's streamed live on the club's FB page, if anyone wants to watch.
Nice one, will give it a watch.
Some Everton away trip gang are all going to Derby away to see them potentially clinch the title. Great fans.
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Hopefully the lads wont take it too hard and come back strong.
Post by: Lxxx on March 04, 2017, 04:41:12 AM
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 04, 2017, 05:43:31 AM
Gap now 3 pts?
Yeah an we have Chelsea and the shite to play hahah hope we don't bottle it!!
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on March 04, 2017, 05:51:24 AM
Post by: Goaljira on March 04, 2017, 01:08:08 PM
At least it sounds like Besic and Calvert Lewin are fit enough to start playing in the U23s now, should help going in to their last 3 games.Depends how much the club want to win the league but Holgate, Davies and Lookman could be drafted in for the last couple of games surely?
Post by: Danny on March 04, 2017, 02:21:25 PM
Depends how much the club want to win the league but Holgate, Davies and Lookman could be drafted in for the last couple of games surely?
Absolutely no point in that, if they weren't getting a game for the First team then sure but it's not like they're just sitting on the bench and not coming on.
Post by: TheRam on March 04, 2017, 02:33:14 PM
Yeah an we have Chelsea and the shite to play hahah hope we don't bottle it!!
We have the shite last game don't we?
Post by: Bally on March 04, 2017, 02:50:18 PM
We have the shite last game don't we?Yup fans forum trying to get it moved to goodison
Post by: farnhamtoffee on March 04, 2017, 03:26:39 PM
Post by: bigmanbob on March 06, 2017, 02:53:00 AM
Absolutely no point in that, if they weren't getting a game for the First team then sure but it's not like they're just sitting on the bench and not coming on.Holgates not had much game time of late, it won't do him any harm
Post by: blue1948 on March 08, 2017, 10:04:44 PM
Absolutely no point in that, if they weren't getting a game for the First team then sure but it's not like they're just sitting on the bench and not coming on.
You don't seem to understand ! NSNO
Post by: Major Clanger on March 08, 2017, 11:24:18 PM
You don't seem to understand ! NSNO
It's the rezzies, mate. The aim is purely to make players ready for the first team. If you already are in the first team squad every week, there's nothing to be gained by playing there.
Post by: Lxxx on March 09, 2017, 12:06:25 AM
It's the rezzies, mate. The aim is purely to make players ready for the first team. If you already are in the first team squad every week, there's nothing to be gained by playing there.
There's nothing to be gained from sitting on the bench week in week out at this stage of the season either. It won't do any of the lads mentioned any harm at all to have a proper 90 minute runout.
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 09, 2017, 12:09:08 AM
There's nothing to be gained from sitting on the bench week in week out at this stage of the season either. It won't do any of the lads mentioned any harm at all to have a proper 90 minute runout.Tom Davies is playing every week. Lookman is either starting or coming on (in general) Holgate maybe could do with a game
Post by: Major Clanger on March 09, 2017, 12:09:13 AM
There's nothing to be gained from sitting on the bench week in week out at this stage of the season either. It won't do any of the lads mentioned any harm at all to have a proper 90 minute runout.
Lookman and Davies play regularly.
Post by: blue1948 on March 09, 2017, 02:22:47 AM
It's the rezzies, mate. The aim is purely to make players ready for the first team. If you already are in the first team squad every week, there's nothing to be gained by playing there.
Sorry I cannot see your point ,if the u23's win the league then it will instill a winning mentality that can't be bought and would far outweigh any -well let's be honest here ( no chance ) of going higher in the prem
,plus it wouldn't hurt any of the players chances of "regaining " their places.
Post by: Major Clanger on March 09, 2017, 02:29:26 AM
,plus it wouldn't hurt any of the players chances of "regaining " their places.
"Regaining"? What the hell are we talking about? Lookman and Davies are first team regulars, there's been the one game where Lookman didn't even come off the bench, but other than that, they're playing in every game.
Would it help them develop a winning mentality by winning a kids competition nobody cares about? Or would it help the kids that the "big boys" come down and win the league for them? How?
And what sort of message would that send out anyway? "You're nice lads but we don't trust you to win the league on your own, so we've brought in some help for you."
Let them bounce back after a poor performance and win it under their own steam. They're more than capable of it.
That, and only that would be of any use to them as professionals.
Post by: blue1948 on March 09, 2017, 10:23:07 AM
"Regaining"? What the hell are we talking about? Lookman and Davies are first team regulars, there's been the one game where Lookman didn't even come off the bench, but other than that, they're playing in every game.
Would it help them develop a winning mentality by winning a kids competition nobody cares about? Or would it help the kids that the "big boys" come down and win the league for them? How?
And what sort of message would that send out anyway? "You're nice lads but we don't trust you to win the league on your own, so we've brought in some help for you."
Let them bounce back after a poor performance and win it under their own steam. They're more than capable of it.
That, and only that would be of any use to them as professionals.
Well I see the point you are making ,let me clarify it for my sake . First you think that it is a competition that no one cares about ! ask the lads and Unsy .Second you think that them playing against kids would be a "drop down" for Lookman and Davies ! That is what they are and they most probably will not hold down a regular place yet anyway .Thirdly you also think that them playing two games is going to change the achievement for the u23's ! They must be already pissed because they had Niasse scoring a few goals and Davies played a lot of games for them already .Thought about this whilst writing and it seems you don't understand
Post by: Lxxx on March 09, 2017, 02:49:03 PM
Lookman and Davies play regularly.
Holgate was the only one mentioned wasn't he. That's who I was referring to, he could do with a runout.
Post by: Major Clanger on March 09, 2017, 03:19:13 PM
Holgate was the only one mentioned wasn't he. That's who I was referring to, he could do with a runout.
Yes, he definitely could.
Post by: TheRam on March 09, 2017, 05:08:44 PM
Post by: hill135 on March 09, 2017, 05:18:39 PM
Holgate is very poor centre half.
Mate he's 20 years old!
Post by: Lxxx on March 09, 2017, 05:20:14 PM
Post by: TheRam on March 09, 2017, 06:34:17 PM
Mate he's 20 years old!
I know that.
His age is irrelevant to the discussion though.
He's been as poor as, if not worse, than mori and Williams.
Post by: blue1948 on March 09, 2017, 08:16:30 PM
I know that.
His age is irrelevant to the discussion though.
He's been as poor as, if not worse, than mori and Williams.
I think you are just winding us up .How can age be irrelevant ? even you were a kid once .I would play him more than Ronald as I think he has a lot to offer and more when he gets experience and I am sure he will get more time soon
Post by: TheRam on March 09, 2017, 09:24:40 PM
I think you are just winding us up .How can age be irrelevant ? even you were a kid once .I would play him more than Ronald as I think he has a lot to offer and more when he gets experience and I am sure he will get more time soon
Because we are talking about him coming into the team now.
In my opinion he has been as poor as Williams and Mori this season when played centre half. He clearly isn't ready to be playing there regularly.
Post by: Major Clanger on March 09, 2017, 10:45:27 PM
Because we are talking about him coming into the team now.
Are we?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 10, 2017, 12:22:07 AM
Post by: Major Clanger on March 10, 2017, 01:39:19 AM
Are Mori and Williams very poor centre halves? 5 clean sheets in 8. Wales and Argentina internationals. We've got a very good defensive record this season. Quite the miracle given how terrible our defenders and keeper are
Heitinga played in a World Cup final.
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on March 10, 2017, 02:06:41 AM
everyone was raving about him ...........
we have one really bad game against Spurs when everyone was awful apart from Ross and this place goes into meltdown
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 10, 2017, 02:20:58 AM
Somewhere in between, which would be expected in his first Pl season
Post by: blue slug on March 10, 2017, 02:27:51 AM
Post by: Ross on March 10, 2017, 02:59:26 AM
Holgate has been as good as your going to get from a defefender of his age. I really rate him but he's going to have poor games
I've not seen that many e's since the 051 was closed down..
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 10, 2017, 04:17:15 AM
Heitinga played in a World Cup final.
No these players have been part of our very successful defence this season. You'd think they'd spent the season conceding goals and shitting in everyone's kettles the way people on here talk about them. I'm not talking about a 6 game competition where you only play 3 sides of similar quality
Joel, Williams and Mori have all been part of our success this season. That doesn't mean we shouldn't sign better/competition but it probably does mean claims that they are shit are wide of the mark and comments like "I hate him" a little odd
Post by: Major Clanger on March 10, 2017, 04:23:42 AM
No these players have been part of our very successful defence this season. You'd think they'd spent the season conceding goals and shitting in everyone's kettles the way people on here talk about them. I'm not talking about a 6 game competition where you only play 3 sides of similar quality
Joel, Williams and Mori have all been part of our success this season. That doesn't mean we shouldn't sign better/competition but it probably does mean claims that they are shit are wide of the mark and comments like "I hate him" a little odd
Well, saying that you hate a player who tries his best is a little odd, whether they're any good or not.
And I certainly don't sign up to the whole good-shit spectrum stuff at all. You can't reduce a player's ability to just one number representing his quality.
The way I see it (and I'm probably wrong) is that Williams and Mori are quite dependable up to a point. But if you put pressure on them beyond that point, they crumble. Like Mori against Spurs, we know his passing ability is virtually non-existent, which is normally not a massive deal, except when the opposition targets it.
So it is quite possible that we'd be better off overall with defenders who aren't even as dependable against (for want of a better word) "lesser" teams but their performance degrades less dramatically against tough opposition.
Post by: Ross on March 10, 2017, 04:38:13 AM
Well, saying that you hate a player who tries his best is a little odd, whether they're any good or not.
And I certainly don't sign up to the whole good-shit spectrum stuff at all. You can't reduce a player's ability to just one number representing his quality.
The way I see it (and I'm probably wrong) is that Williams and Mori are quite dependable up to a point. But if you put pressure on them beyond that point, they crumble. Like Mori against Spurs, we know his passing ability is virtually non-existent, which is normally not a massive deal, except when the opposition targets it.
So it is quite possible that we'd be better off overall with defenders who aren't even as dependable against (for want of a better word) "lesser" teams but their performance degrades less dramatically against tough opposition.
Have you seen Mori passing stats for the Spurs game?
Post by: Major Clanger on March 10, 2017, 04:45:47 AM
Have you seen Mori passing stats for the Spurs game?
No, please enlighten me.
But what I saw was clear: Spurs kept forcing him to try one of his hopeful balls into nowhere by closing down all his easy options.
Post by: Ross on March 10, 2017, 04:54:41 AM
No, please enlighten me.
But what I saw was clear: Spurs kept forcing him to try one of his hopeful balls into nowhere by closing down all his easy options.
Theyre out there for everyone to see I'm sure you're more than familiar with google.
Do you think we targeted Alderweireld or Vertonghen?
Post by: Jamokachi on March 10, 2017, 05:09:56 AM
Post by: Major Clanger on March 10, 2017, 05:10:58 AM
Theyre out there for everyone to see I'm sure you're more than familiar with google.
Do you think we targeted Alderweireld or Vertonghen?
No, because we didn't.
Post by: Major Clanger on March 10, 2017, 05:21:31 AM
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8-2016/matches/855438/player-stats/121221/OVERALL_02#tabs-wrapper-anchor
Noticed the conspicuous absence of blue arrows pointing in the opposition half and the large number of reds in comparison?
Now, let's take a look at Vertonghen.
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8-2016/matches/855438/player-stats/39194/OVERALL_02#tabs-wrapper-anchor
Hmm, that does look quite different. But maybe it's just a general reflection of how poor we were. Surely, Williams's forward passing must have been similarly wayward.
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8-2016/matches/855438/player-stats/19159/OVERALL_02#tabs-wrapper-anchor
Ermm, nope. But note how Williams didn't even try to put the ball over the halfway line.
Post by: Ross on March 10, 2017, 05:40:04 AM
Okay, @Ross (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2316), this is just for you.
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8-2016/matches/855438/player-stats/121221/OVERALL_02#tabs-wrapper-anchor
Noticed the conspicuous absence of blue arrows pointing in the opposition half and the large number of reds in comparison?
Now, let's take a look at Vertonghen.
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8-2016/matches/855438/player-stats/39194/OVERALL_02#tabs-wrapper-anchor
Hmm, that does look quite different. But maybe it's just a general reflection of how poor we were. Surely, Williams's forward passing must have been similarly wayward.
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8-2016/matches/855438/player-stats/19159/OVERALL_02#tabs-wrapper-anchor
Ermm, nope. But note how Williams didn't even try to put the ball over the halfway line.
Hmmm missed Alderweireld off deliberately or couldn't you find him? Forget the fact Williams only passed the ball about 30 times compared to Mori playing it 60ish? Did you bother seeing the pass completing stats between Vertonghen and Mori?
Good to know you're googles back up though!
Post by: Major Clanger on March 10, 2017, 05:59:28 AM
Hmmm missed Alderweireld off deliberately or couldn't you find him?
Alderweireld failed with quite a few of his forward passes, but we put absolutely no pressure on him. And he still succeeded with more.
Forget the fact Williams only passed the ball about 30 times compared to Mori playing it 60ish?
Exactamundo, my dear @Ross (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2316). It is precisely what I'm talking about. They were happy for Mori to have the ball and give it to them. Thank you for confirming it. :)
Did you bother seeing the pass completing stats between Vertonghen and Mori?
No, because they are meaningless for central defenders, seeing as they mostly pass between each other. As everybody who knows anything about football knows.
It's always better to believe your eyes rather than relying on the narrow sliver of information these boiled down stats give you.
Post by: Goaljira on March 10, 2017, 12:10:44 PM
Post by: Rhys on March 10, 2017, 02:38:56 PM
Hmmm missed Alderweireld off deliberately or couldn't you find him? Forget the fact Williams only passed the ball about 30 times compared to Mori playing it 60ish? Did you bother seeing the pass completing stats between Vertonghen and Mori?
Good to know you're googles back up though!
You can't use how many passes someone has over the other centre half when Spurs clearly left mori open to force us to him and closed down options to get it to other people. Centre half passing % should be very high as most of the time it's to their centre half partner, keeper or midfielder a few yards away.
i haven't reviewed the stats but I don't need to remember the number of times mori put it straight out, easier passes didn't go near men. One of his problems is he seems to have grand ideas he is a footballing centre half so instead of when he is stuck with no pass on and under pressure just playing the percentage ball of say putting it in the channel he tries something he shouldn't.
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 14, 2017, 12:32:53 AM
Post by: brap2 on March 14, 2017, 12:59:04 AM
You can't use how many passes someone has over the other centre half when Spurs clearly left mori open to force us to him and closed down options to get it to other people. Centre half passing % should be very high as most of the time it's to their centre half partner, keeper or midfielder a few yards away.
i haven't reviewed the stats but I don't need to remember the number of times mori put it straight out, easier passes didn't go near men. One of his problems is he seems to have grand ideas he is a footballing centre half so instead of when he is stuck with no pass on and under pressure just playing the percentage ball of say putting it in the channel he tries something he shouldn't.
Must be getting told to play it, can't see Koeman not just seeing his arse after the second or third one.
jags Williams and him are all guilty of the feckless punt, Williams even cleared a ball directly into the middle of the pitch at the weekend.
Fell straight to their 10, luckily enough it was some clogger and not hazard or god forbid coutinho.
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 14, 2017, 01:17:44 AM
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on March 14, 2017, 01:22:53 AM
City winning 1-0 @ Arsenal
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Post by: TheRam on March 14, 2017, 02:56:34 AM
What a job unsworth is doing
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Post by: Jimmywhack on March 14, 2017, 05:53:29 PM
https://twitter.com/WM_TotalFutbol/status/841474365699039232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Post by: Rhys on March 14, 2017, 06:24:52 PM
Now thats how to take a pen
https://twitter.com/WM_TotalFutbol/status/841474365699039232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Agreed. The Sambou one the other week will get more discussion because of what it looks like but thats a proper penalty. Power and accuracy like that can't be saved.
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 14, 2017, 06:25:15 PM
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 14, 2017, 06:25:59 PM
Agreed. The Sambou one the other week will get more discussion because of what it looks like but thats a proper penalty. Power and accuracy like that can't be saved.Kepper went the right way and was absolutely nowhere near it!!!
Post by: TheRam on March 14, 2017, 06:32:02 PM
Stubbs got the hibs job doing a much worse job.
Obviously I'd like him to stay and continue his good work but it'll be interesting to see how he gets on.
Post by: GLewis on March 14, 2017, 06:42:28 PM
I can see unsworth getting a managers job in the near future.
Stubbs got the hibs job doing a much worse job.
Obviously I'd like him to stay and continue his good work but it'll be interesting to see how he gets on.
I've wondered for a while why there isn't a loan system for coaches like there is for players.
We could send unsy somewhere for 2 years for example.
It'd be cheap for the hiring club as they wouldn't have to pay full manager wages, there wouldn't be potential compensation packages etc. should things not be working out and they'd have access to up and coming coaches from the top clubs.
The coaches would have to take a potential hit on what they might be earning if they were working independently (outside of the loan system) but they might be offered more opportunities if the financial risk is lower and therefore gain more exposure.
Meanwhile we would get to see these coaches in the real world.
I think part of the reason may be that there's still a need in England to think that your manager might be there for 5-10 years and therefore a short term loan isn't ideal. But I think everything is moving away from this so maybe it will happen?
Post by: TheRam on March 14, 2017, 06:47:15 PM
I've wondered for a while why there isn't a loan system for coaches like there is for players.
We could send unsy somewhere for 2 years for example.
It'd be cheap for the hiring club as they wouldn't have to pay full manager wages, there wouldn't be potential compensation packages etc. should things not be working out and they'd have access to up and coming coaches from the top clubs.
The coaches would have to take a potential hit on what they might be earning if they were working independently (outside of the loan system) but they might be offered more opportunities if the financial risk is lower and therefore gain more exposure.
Meanwhile we would get to see these coaches in the real world.
I think part of the reason may be that there's still a need in England to think that your manager might be there for 5-10 years and therefore a short term loan isn't ideal. But I think everything is moving away from this so maybe it will happen?
This is a brilliant idea.
Phone the FA immediately.
Post by: Confucius on March 14, 2017, 06:50:58 PM
I've wondered for a while why there isn't a loan system for coaches like there is for players.
We could send unsy somewhere for 2 years for example.
It'd be cheap for the hiring club as they wouldn't have to pay full manager wages, there wouldn't be potential compensation packages etc. should things not be working out and they'd have access to up and coming coaches from the top clubs.
The coaches would have to take a potential hit on what they might be earning if they were working independently (outside of the loan system) but they might be offered more opportunities if the financial risk is lower and therefore gain more exposure.
Meanwhile we would get to see these coaches in the real world.
I think part of the reason may be that there's still a need in England to think that your manager might be there for 5-10 years and therefore a short term loan isn't ideal. But I think everything is moving away from this so maybe it will happen?
I think conflict of interest is probably the biggest one. A player going out on loan can't really change much. A manager has quite a bit of influence.
Post by: kramer0 on March 14, 2017, 07:54:35 PM
Now thats how to take a pen
https://twitter.com/WM_TotalFutbol/status/841474365699039232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Pretty much everything we do in those highlights runs through Dowell. Can't wait to see him play with the first team again.
Post by: GLewis on March 14, 2017, 07:56:27 PM
I think conflict of interest is probably the biggest one. A player going out on loan can't really change much. A manager has quite a bit of influence.Yes maybe.
You could limit it to clubs outside of your division although there'd still be potential cup matches to consider.
I'd be surprised if that was the reason it doesn't happen though.
Post by: GLewis on March 14, 2017, 07:58:39 PM
Pretty much everything we do in those highlights runs through Dowell. Can't wait to see him play with the first team again.
Dowell is definitely someone worth keeping on until he's 22/23 even if it's not obvious that he's going to make it.
Much like Ossie, that type of player who isn't that fast needs time and matches to appreciate what they need to do to get round this.
Hopefully we can find him a club on loan who will play him all the time to get him some of that experience.
Post by: TheRam on March 14, 2017, 08:23:26 PM
Pretty much everything we do in those highlights runs through Dowell. Can't wait to see him play with the first team again.
He looked a class above when I watched the under 23s the other week.
His touch, passing, and vision was on another level.
But, his lack of physicality will let him down at premier league level.
Needs a loan out next year in the championship.
Technically though it's all there.
Post by: Outworlder47 on March 14, 2017, 10:15:49 PM
Post by: Lxxx on March 14, 2017, 10:53:41 PM
He looked a class above when I watched the under 23s the other week.
His touch, passing, and vision was on another level.
But, his lack of physicality will let him down at premier league level.
Needs a loan out next year in the championship.
Technically though it's all there.
Unsy said he's grown in height and weight this year so maybe he's a late developer. He's just got that languid style that some people just don't take to, similar to Mesut Ozil.
Post by: Bob Sacamano on March 15, 2017, 01:53:22 PM
Post by: Elgoodo1978 on March 15, 2017, 10:04:44 PM
He looked a class above when I watched the under 23s the other week.
His touch, passing, and vision was on another level.
But, his lack of physicality will let him down at premier league level.
Needs a loan out next year in the championship.
Technically though it's all there.
He reminds me of a fitter and far less lazy Matt Le Tissier.
Post by: Toddacelli on March 16, 2017, 12:21:48 AM
He reminds me of a fitter and far less lazy Matt Le Tissier.
That sounds amazing!
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 16, 2017, 12:27:52 AM
That sounds amazing!
Sounds like 1 of the best players in the world. Think given he's playing for our under 23s it might be a little OTT.
Post by: ally2 on March 16, 2017, 01:01:12 AM
Post by: Elgoodo1978 on March 16, 2017, 02:47:34 AM
That's it. He's the next Matt Le Tissier. No pressure lad
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Maybe I should have elaborated, but I never released I could have such a compelling effect on the lad.
How he plays and some of the goals he has scored reminds of Le Tiss but with more of a swagger, albeit at a completely different level. So I enjoy watching him play partly because he reminds me of another player I enjoyed watching in the past (who was a lazy bastard). So much so that I did indeed decide to watch some of the old Le Tissier goals from back in the day.
In addition, I also think he has the look of a young Lee Mavers about him, and although I'm not expecting him to write the next 'looking glass', I did put on The LA's album last week.
Post by: ally2 on March 16, 2017, 03:06:06 AM
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Maybe I should have elaborated, but I never released I could have such a compelling effect on the lad.
How he plays and some of the goals he has scored reminds of Le Tiss but with more of a swagger, albeit at a completely different level. So I enjoy watching him play partly because he reminds me of another player I enjoyed watching in the past (who was a lazy bastard). So much so that I did indeed decide to watch some of the old Le Tissier goals from back in the day.
In addition, I also think he has the look of a young Lee Mavers about him, and although I'm not expecting him to write the next 'looking glass', I did put on The LA's album last week.
Yeah it's OK I knew what you meant. My favourite type of player so let's hope we see some nice stuff from him at whatever level he gets to.
Post by: Major Clanger on March 16, 2017, 03:15:09 AM
Post by: brap2 on March 16, 2017, 04:36:50 AM
Post by: Elgoodo1978 on March 16, 2017, 03:53:10 PM
Yeah it's OK I knew what you meant. My favourite type of player so let's hope we see some nice stuff from him at whatever level he gets to.
Here, here
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 23, 2017, 05:58:54 PM
Johnson, 15, is the son of former Forest and Ipswich striker David and Everton have seen a number of bids rejected by the Championship club.
Everton want to sign the England under-16 international this season but have been told to pay around £1million, with director of football Steve Walsh now expected to enter negotiations. The deal could go to a tribunal if Everton fail to agree a fee.
Post by: Macca77 on March 23, 2017, 07:43:02 PM
Post by: GLewis on March 23, 2017, 07:53:26 PM
Million quid for a 15 year old, fucking hell
Didn't Arsenal pay more than that for Jermaine Pennant about 15 years ago?
We're just behind the curve!
Post by: Ross on March 23, 2017, 07:55:41 PM
Didn't Arsenal pay more than that for Jermaine Pennant about 15 years ago?
We're just behind the curve!
Wasn't it about £5m they paid?
Post by: Robioto on March 23, 2017, 08:10:30 PM
Wasn't it about £5m they paid?
I think it was just over £2m.
Post by: hill135 on March 23, 2017, 08:44:55 PM
Post by: Rhys on March 23, 2017, 08:49:18 PM
Didn't we pay more for George Green?
300k up front. The deal was rising to 2m based on future incentives, so unless it was number of Bacardi breezers strawpedo'd I dont think it will have gone above 300k.
Post by: GLewis on March 23, 2017, 08:51:23 PM
Wasn't it about £5m they paid?
That was them buying Sterling from QPR. Or Ibe from Wycombe.
Maybe both?
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Post by: Robioto on March 24, 2017, 12:08:18 AM
anywhere to watch the England game? Dowel, Lookman and Kenny all starting...
BT Sport 2. 19:00 k/o
Bit of a bonus for me, I'm working late tonight, I'll stick it on in the background.
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 24, 2017, 12:10:11 AM
BT Sport 2. 19:00 k/o
Bit of a bonus for me, I'm working late tonight, I'll stick it on in the background.
eh? its already finished haha was 2-2
Post by: Robioto on March 24, 2017, 12:11:27 AM
eh? its already finished haha was 2-2
Ha, shit, haven't got a clue what I was reading then!
Post by: ajax_andy on March 24, 2017, 12:43:31 AM
Million quid for a 15 year old, fucking hell
We paid that for Scott Spencer
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on March 24, 2017, 12:44:47 AM
Post by: Major Clanger on March 24, 2017, 01:20:05 AM
Post by: Toddacelli on March 24, 2017, 06:50:51 PM
It's not much in football terms, but ignore that for a moment and just think about it: you pay £1m so that a 15 year old kid can come and kick a ball around with you rather than someone else.
We don't wanna go down that road... there's no stadiums built if we go down that road...
Post by: TheRam on March 24, 2017, 08:26:37 PM
eh? its already finished haha was 2-2
What level was this?
Davies is still playing for the under 19s which i find really strange
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 24, 2017, 08:27:06 PM
What level was this?Under 20's
Davies is still playing for the under 19s which i find really strange
Think there was 5 current Everton players in the squad alongside Ryan Ledson
Not a bad effort
Post by: GLewis on March 24, 2017, 08:42:18 PM
What level was this?
Davies is still playing for the under 19s which i find really strange
Assume it's the Chalobah that's playing for Chelsea in there too.
It's very hard to track player potential at national level for those age groups.
Although I think these are important games for the u19s so they may have requested those two for example.
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 24, 2017, 09:10:44 PM
Assume it's the Chalobah that's playing for Chelsea in there too.Isn't he about 22 now?
It's very hard to track player potential at national level for those age groups.
Although I think these are important games for the u19s so they may have requested those two for example.
Edit, nathaniel is 22 his brother trevoh, yes trevoh is 17
Post by: Rhys on March 24, 2017, 09:11:33 PM
So they may think it is more beneficial for players to stick together and get the experiences of playing every age group rather than keep shifting people up and down.
Post by: TheRam on March 24, 2017, 09:12:24 PM
Assume it's the Chalobah that's playing for Chelsea in there too.
It's very hard to track player potential at national level for those age groups.
Although I think these are important games for the u19s so they may have requested those two for example.
He does have a brother called Trevor who I think is younger, may be him?
True. You expect Davies to be playing for the 21s soon enough though
Post by: Goaljira on March 24, 2017, 09:21:08 PM
Isn't he about 22 now?
Edit, nathaniel is 22 his brother trevoh, yes trevoh is 17
Trevoh? That sounds like the caveman pronunciation of Trevor.
Post by: Goaljira on March 24, 2017, 09:21:48 PM
He does have a brother called Trevor who I think is younger, may be him?
True. You expect Davies to be playing for the 21s soon enough though
If he carries on for the next 15 months as he has the last 4 then I'd expect him to go to the WC!
Post by: TheRam on March 24, 2017, 09:23:11 PM
If he carries on for the next 15 months as he has the last 4 then I'd expect him to go to the WC!
Way too soon
Post by: Goaljira on March 24, 2017, 09:24:05 PM
Way too soon
Yeah, but that doesn't normally stop England taking players.
Post by: Shogun on March 26, 2017, 02:18:55 PM
What level was this?
Davies is still playing for the under 19s which i find really strange
I think he's the captain which may have contributed towards the decision.
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 09, 2017, 12:24:44 AM
we play Monday
Against Spurs
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 11, 2017, 12:14:36 AM
Is Galloway back at Everton now?
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 11, 2017, 12:17:02 AM
Post by: kramer0 on April 11, 2017, 12:28:26 AM
No complaints about Calvert-Lewin or Lookman. They need games so it's fair to slot them in when they aren't involved with the first team.
Also... Galloway is back?
Edit: And yes, it's dumb for me to pick holes in a U23 team, especially given that Unsworth clearly knows what he's doing. I'm aware of this.
Post by: Elgoodo1978 on April 11, 2017, 12:34:19 AM
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Post by: Major Clanger on April 11, 2017, 12:51:37 AM
Is there anywhere we can watch this (other than at Goodison ofc) or do we have to wait for limited highlights tomorrow ?
I think it's on Facebook.
Post by: Lincs Toffee on April 11, 2017, 12:52:40 AM
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 11, 2017, 12:55:05 AM
Is there anywhere we can watch this (other than at Goodison ofc) or do we have to wait for limited highlights tomorrow ?Live on fb so maybe other sites have it too
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 11, 2017, 01:06:18 AM
Is there anywhere we can watch this (other than at Goodison ofc) or do we have to wait for limited highlights tomorrow ?
It's on Facebook through the everton page
Post by: Trowel on April 11, 2017, 01:16:32 AM
Post by: TheRam on April 11, 2017, 01:22:46 AM
That's some team for the under 23s.
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 11, 2017, 01:32:05 AM
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Post by: Trowel on April 11, 2017, 02:02:06 AM
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Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 11, 2017, 02:30:42 AM
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on April 11, 2017, 02:35:07 AM
Boss 3rd goal as well.
Post by: Major Clanger on April 11, 2017, 02:36:01 AM
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 11, 2017, 02:36:22 AM
I don't know if this deserves its own thread, but whats the story on Galloway?Can play for our u23s apparently despite being on Loan
Boss 3rd goal as well.
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on April 11, 2017, 02:41:42 AM
Can play for our u23s apparently despite being on Loan
Crazy that
Post by: Robioto on April 11, 2017, 02:50:11 AM
Can play for our u23s apparently despite being on Loan
Never knew that...
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 11, 2017, 02:57:24 AM
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Post by: Jimmywhack on April 11, 2017, 02:59:38 AM
Final Score 4-1 1pt needed to be champsWho got the fourth
Post by: dazfrancis on April 11, 2017, 03:04:53 AM
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Post by: brap2 on April 11, 2017, 04:04:10 AM
Post by: brap2 on April 11, 2017, 04:19:45 AM
Sambou's goal is a corker, really tight turn to send the cb.
Dowell's was a very Dowell goal. Got to wonder how far off the first team he is. Maybe we can secure 6th in the next few games and give him a run out 🙂
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 11, 2017, 04:31:40 AM
Post by: Lxxx on April 11, 2017, 04:34:05 AM
I don't know if this deserves its own thread, but whats the story on Galloway?
Boss 3rd goal as well.
Pulis has officially released him from his loan move.
Post by: TheRam on April 11, 2017, 04:51:23 PM
Didn't know ugo ehiogu was their manager, that's a bit random
Love this
Post by: Bob Sacamano on April 14, 2017, 10:55:34 PM
Didn't know ugo ehiogu was their manager, that's a bit random
Love this
Really rated him back in the day.
I'm rooting for him to become a top coach/manager now that I know this.
Post by: irishtoffee on April 16, 2017, 04:41:58 AM
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 16, 2017, 04:55:58 AM
We need a win
Post by: BlueForYou on April 16, 2017, 05:51:29 PM
Ready made replacement for Valencia next season
Post by: mikey_blue on April 21, 2017, 07:32:55 PM
Really rated him back in the day.
I'm rooting for him to become a top coach/manager now that I know this.
News that he passed away yesterday. Heart attack. Only 44.
Post by: TheRam on April 21, 2017, 08:27:52 PM
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 21, 2017, 10:44:37 PM
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 21, 2017, 11:43:18 PM
Post by: School of Science on April 22, 2017, 12:08:19 AM
live on CTv
What time ?
Post by: Alanvideo on April 22, 2017, 12:13:33 AM
Post by: blue1948 on April 22, 2017, 12:28:38 AM
what is CTv ?
I think it might be Chelsea TV
Post by: Confucius on April 22, 2017, 12:28:57 AM
what is CTv ?
Chinese TV. Everything is on there.
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 22, 2017, 12:38:01 AM
Post by: blue1948 on April 22, 2017, 12:43:25 AM
http://www.stream2watch.cc/live-television/united-kingdom/chelsea-tv-live-stream
No guarantees
Post by: MexicanToffee on April 22, 2017, 12:57:26 AM
Post by: Major Clanger on April 22, 2017, 01:07:07 AM
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 22, 2017, 01:08:58 AM
Official stream is fucked.
this works well http://www.stream2watch.cc/live-television/united-kingdom/chelsea-tv-live-stream
Post by: MexicanToffee on April 22, 2017, 01:14:27 AM
Official stream is fucked.Working fine for me.
Post by: ally2 on April 22, 2017, 01:19:08 AM
Post by: Major Clanger on April 22, 2017, 01:19:10 AM
Working fine for me.
It has recovered.
We've started well.
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 22, 2017, 01:21:15 AM
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 22, 2017, 01:26:00 AM
Post by: ally2 on April 22, 2017, 01:30:11 AM
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 22, 2017, 01:33:04 AM
Post by: Major Clanger on April 22, 2017, 01:33:10 AM
1-1
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 22, 2017, 01:44:54 AM
Post by: ally2 on April 22, 2017, 01:45:35 AM
Post by: Ross on April 22, 2017, 01:56:16 AM
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 22, 2017, 02:15:31 AM
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 22, 2017, 02:15:36 AM
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 22, 2017, 02:22:47 AM
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 22, 2017, 02:23:02 AM
Post by: Goaljira on April 22, 2017, 02:31:14 AM
ughhh
I think its spelt Ugbo?
Post by: blargins on April 22, 2017, 02:50:43 AM
Post by: ally2 on April 22, 2017, 02:52:54 AM
Post by: MexicanToffee on April 22, 2017, 02:53:41 AM
What do they need to do to win the title?To be certain win but a point might be enough
Post by: blargins on April 22, 2017, 02:54:33 AM
Post by: Trowel on April 22, 2017, 02:54:52 AM
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 22, 2017, 02:57:17 AM
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 22, 2017, 02:58:20 AM
Post by: ally2 on April 22, 2017, 02:58:43 AM
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 22, 2017, 02:59:50 AM
need 1pt more mathematically v RS,
City play the shite on Monday and need to win
Post by: MexicanToffee on April 22, 2017, 03:00:38 AM
gotta play the shite last game....
Things dreams are made of... winning the championship by beating the shite on the last game of the season.
Post by: Major Clanger on April 22, 2017, 03:26:31 AM
Things dreams are made of... winning the championship by beating the shite on the last game of the season.
Or potentially even by losing by a small margin.
Post by: Bluebridge on April 22, 2017, 03:27:33 AM
This time next year........................
Things dreams are made of... winning the championship by beating the shite on the last game of the season.
Post by: TheRam on April 22, 2017, 05:49:49 AM
Post by: bluestevie on April 22, 2017, 06:04:24 AM
What date is the game against the shite?
The 8th, 4 days before the last senior home game v Watford
Post by: MexicanToffee on April 22, 2017, 08:05:39 AM
The 8th, 4 days before the last senior home game v WatfordWould be nice if they got a decent turn out. I know the mini derbies always used to be fairly well attended but I don't know if that is still the case.
Post by: TheRam on April 22, 2017, 02:29:52 PM
The 8th, 4 days before the last senior home game v Watford
Gotta be played at Goodison surely?
Post by: BlueForYou on April 22, 2017, 03:33:51 PM
Next up for first team squad?
Sambou, Walsh and Baningime?
Koeman's Kids for Watford!
Renshaw for U23 GK?
Post by: Bluedylan on April 22, 2017, 03:40:53 PM
Post by: ally2 on April 22, 2017, 03:51:21 PM
Post by: sam of the south on April 22, 2017, 04:24:19 PM
Really rated him back in the day.
I'm rooting for him to become a top coach/manager now that I know this.
😪
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 22, 2017, 05:07:49 PM
Post by: Bluedylan on April 22, 2017, 05:38:28 PM
Post by: Elgoodo1978 on April 22, 2017, 05:40:22 PM
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 22, 2017, 05:47:45 PM
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/beni-baningime-backed-become-evertons-12929011
He was brilliant last night as was Kenny. Future is bright and blue!
Post by: TheRam on April 22, 2017, 06:29:09 PM
Basically said at Southampton he didn't play the youngsters because they weren't good enough but at Everton they are.
Thought they had the best academy in the world though?
Post by: Cassius on April 22, 2017, 06:41:15 PM
So impressed with U23s, I reckon there has to be 5 or 6 at least who will make it in the top 2 divisions for sure, lets hope they turn out to be of the elite and in our first team. Loved Mo Besic's game as well, great to see him back (but I could be biased). With Coleman's injury, surely Kenny has to be given an opportunity sooner rather than later, right?
Besic was dogshit yesterday, but clearly massively unfit.
Fullbacks looked great though.
Post by: BlueForYou on April 22, 2017, 07:35:43 PM
1) Robles
2) Kenny
3) Baines
4) Schneiderlin
5) Williams
6) Baningime
7) Davies
8) Gueye
9) Lukaku
10)Barkley
11)Sambou
Subs: Stek, Holgate, Jagielka, Barry, Walsh, Lookman, Calvert-Lewin,
Post by: Elgoodo1978 on April 22, 2017, 07:39:03 PM
Besic was dogshit yesterday, but clearly massively unfit.
Fullbacks looked great though.
I thought he got better as the game went on and did pretty good as a centre back. Nice to see, but yeah a few dodgy moments, put to injury ;-)
Post by: pjk on April 23, 2017, 07:42:58 PM
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/04/23/under23s-final-game-at-goodison :thumbsup:
Post by: blue1948 on April 23, 2017, 09:04:04 PM
Post by: ally2 on April 23, 2017, 09:14:32 PM
Post by: Lxxx on April 23, 2017, 09:33:55 PM
Walshy's everywhere
He's actually got a twin brother who we also employ, to let everyone think we have eyes everywhere.
Post by: TheRam on April 23, 2017, 09:35:44 PM
He's actually got a twin brother who we also employ, to let everyone think we have eyes everywhere.
Fun fact
His brother actually used to play for us in the 70s
Post by: Silas on April 23, 2017, 10:41:51 PM
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 23, 2017, 10:43:35 PM
Free entry for the Liverpool game people
Yeah im guna go.
Post by: TheRam on April 23, 2017, 10:49:37 PM
Hopefully they realise that quite a few people will want to go and we won't be queuing outside for ages like last time.
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 23, 2017, 11:11:43 PM
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 24, 2017, 02:45:57 AM
Post by: MexicanToffee on April 25, 2017, 01:13:55 AM
Post by: Polledreng on April 25, 2017, 01:17:00 AM
Anyone know how Liverpool are getting on against Man City?No goals after 15 minutes all I know. Apparantly Liverpool have put out a strong team whatever that means
Post by: Polledreng on April 25, 2017, 01:23:43 AM
No goals after 15 minutes all I know. Apparantly Liverpool have put out a strong team whatever that meansCity 1-0 up..... well probably the best a strong Liverpool team can do.... City probably stronger than Crystal Palace aswell..
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 25, 2017, 01:24:02 AM
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 25, 2017, 01:30:51 AM
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 25, 2017, 01:33:32 AM
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 25, 2017, 02:36:51 AM
Edit: fuckin 2-2 now
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 25, 2017, 02:40:15 AM
Post by: Alanvideo on April 25, 2017, 02:41:55 AM
Can you just turn up with your ST or do you have to pre book it or something?.............your ST includes admission to U23 games but Everton are bound to complicate matters by insisting you book a ticket. Why don't they just open the Main Stand ?
Post by: Major Clanger on April 25, 2017, 02:44:44 AM
.............your ST includes admission to U23 games but Everton are bound to complicate matters by insisting you book a ticket. Why don't they just open the Main Stand ?
I would assume there are fairly strict safety rules on crowd admission to a stadium like Goodison Park, and possibly one of them is that you can't just let people in without keeping track.
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 25, 2017, 02:48:33 AM
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 25, 2017, 02:51:02 AM
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 25, 2017, 02:52:22 AM
Post by: terrydarracotsbaldpate on April 25, 2017, 02:53:02 AM
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 25, 2017, 02:53:06 AM
Stoppage time goal for the shite!
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 25, 2017, 02:53:36 AM
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 25, 2017, 02:53:47 AM
Post by: terrydarracotsbaldpate on April 25, 2017, 02:54:31 AM
Post by: Alanvideo on April 25, 2017, 02:55:02 AM
I would assume there are fairly strict safety rules on crowd admission to a stadium like Goodison Park, and possibly one of them is that you can't just let people in without keeping track..........................which is why I suggested just opening the MS which will be big enough and they can keep a check on admissions. We got 6,000 at the last U23 game and expect more this time. Oddly ,the club are making the Upper Bullens available first .
Post by: Polledreng on April 25, 2017, 02:55:28 AM
Gomez looks better than the centre halves the rs had yesterday.he could still be shite ;)
Post by: terrydarracotsbaldpate on April 25, 2017, 02:55:38 AM
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on April 25, 2017, 02:55:44 AM
Well done lads!!
Well done Unsworth
Post by: Audrey Horne on April 25, 2017, 02:56:25 AM
Post by: Alanvideo on April 25, 2017, 02:56:31 AM
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 25, 2017, 02:56:36 AM
Post by: Gash on April 25, 2017, 03:00:04 AM
Post by: BlueForYou on April 25, 2017, 03:01:49 AM
Post by: Robioto on April 25, 2017, 03:24:09 AM
Or not...
This is another sign that all things Everton are good and heading in right direction. Well done Rhino!
Post by: D15TIN on April 25, 2017, 04:03:29 AM
great achievement that, hoping to see a few of those players next season, sure walsh, dowell, kenny & Sambou will be involved in europe etc
Post by: Macca77 on April 25, 2017, 05:00:53 AM
Post by: Everton Mint on April 25, 2017, 05:20:38 AM
Big congrats to Unsy ... he is one special coach and a true Blue.
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 25, 2017, 05:48:15 AM
well done Boys
Post by: Jamokachi on April 25, 2017, 06:57:19 AM
Post by: blue1948 on April 25, 2017, 10:43:45 AM
Post by: Macca77 on April 25, 2017, 04:53:48 PM
Post by: Toddacelli on April 25, 2017, 05:33:37 PM
Recruitment - check
Finances - check
Youth Development - checkedy check bitches!
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on April 25, 2017, 05:42:01 PM
Stadium - check
Recruitment - check
Finances - check
Youth Development - checkedy check bitches!
Manager - check
20 goals a season striker - check
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 25, 2017, 08:16:48 PM
Post by: Alanvideo on April 25, 2017, 08:20:36 PM
Free entry for last game, hopefully be a decent crowd.............from The Echo <<<<<<<<<
Blues U23s hope for huge crowd
verton are hoping to attract a crowd of 20,000 for the night they lift the Premier League 2 trophy.
The Blues’ under-23s were confirmed as champions last night as second-placed Manchester City lost 3-2 to Liverpool at Prenton Park.
Everton have an unassailable six point lead heading into their final game of the season at Goodison on May, 8 - against the Reds.
The club have announced that the game is free entry for all supporters and coach David Unsworth wants his side to finish the season with a flourish in front of a bumper attendance.
Unsy said:
We have a massive game at Goodison and I’m sure there are going to be around 20,000 there.
“So we need to finish off in style when we lift the trophy.” >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Post by: blue1948 on April 25, 2017, 08:40:13 PM
Post by: blargins on April 25, 2017, 09:34:29 PM
Manager - check
20 goals a season striker - check
Owner with a check book - check.
Post by: Alanvideo on April 25, 2017, 09:35:40 PM
Owner with a check book - check.............does anyone use cheques any more ?
Post by: blargins on April 25, 2017, 09:36:15 PM
............does anyone use cheques any more ?
I do all the time.
Post by: Alanvideo on April 25, 2017, 09:39:23 PM
I do all the time..............can't remember when I last wrote a cheque , everything now is cards or bank transfers. Even my last car I bought with debit card. Times change. Still like to carry cash though.
Post by: TheRam on April 25, 2017, 09:39:29 PM
Post by: Alanvideo on April 25, 2017, 09:41:28 PM
Just get tickets through the site then?............think it's just box office and Everton One or Two
Post by: Bluedylan on April 25, 2017, 09:43:36 PM
Don't mean to put a downer on things, because I'm buzzing for the lads, but it did give me pause for thought.
Post by: MIG on April 25, 2017, 09:59:26 PM
Lets face it, it can't do any harm. Its better that these players are playing regularly and its nice that they're winning things together with the Everton mentality than spread out all over the country at different teams on loan. Could be building a future spine of our team.
Course, you'll never win anything with kids ;)
Post by: Alanvideo on April 25, 2017, 09:59:48 PM
How much do we think this means/doesn't mean then? Was listening to a journo, Mike Calvin, on the Echo podcast the other day who has just written a book on youth football saying that the PL2 is basically a load of old shite, and largely ineffective in producing the level of football and players needed to break into Prem teams. He was saying that's why so many clubs loan their best prospects out...................there are 2 divisions of 12 teams each. Only 15 of the current PL have entered teams
Don't mean to put a downer on things, because I'm buzzing for the lads, but it did give me pause for thought.
Not surprisingly ,the top 7 in the PL2 is the same clubs as the PL with the strange exception of Sunderland instead of Man U. I think it's useful and it's the nearest thing there's been to an old fashioned reserve league like we used to have years ago.
https://www.premierleague.com/tables?team=U21
Post by: Major Clanger on April 25, 2017, 10:00:24 PM
How much do we think this means/doesn't mean then? Was listening to a journo, Mike Calvin, on the Echo podcast the other day who has just written a book on youth football saying that the PL2 is basically a load of old shite, and largely ineffective in producing the level of football and players needed to break into Prem teams. He was saying that's why so many clubs loan their best prospects out.
Don't mean to put a downer on things, because I'm buzzing for the lads, but it did give me pause for thought.
All the more reason to make it work for us.
Post by: TheRam on April 25, 2017, 10:03:55 PM
How much do we think this means/doesn't mean then? Was listening to a journo, Mike Calvin, on the Echo podcast the other day who has just written a book on youth football saying that the PL2 is basically a load of old shite, and largely ineffective in producing the level of football and players needed to break into Prem teams. He was saying that's why so many clubs loan their best prospects out.
Don't mean to put a downer on things, because I'm buzzing for the lads, but it did give me pause for thought.
You can never quite tell, can you?
However, we've already had three players in DCL, Davies and Holgate become permanent fixtures in the first team, Pennington coming in, as well as dowell, Kenny and Connolly playing last season, Galloway too.
All looking very adept at premier league level.
Granted, the challenge comes when you have a run of games and try to hold your place down but the signs are very promising.
Some of them will make it here, some will fall short but still have good careers in the premier league and they're varying different factors that will come into player. For example, I'd say dowell is the most technically gifted player we've had in the youth ranks since Barkley, but he strikes me as someone who's not quite good enough to make the step up. Then there's someone like Davies, who isn't as good on the ball bit just looks like a premier league player.
One things for sure, it's the most promising crop of youngsters in the country at the moment and it's great to be able to call upon such talents when needed.
Also, dare I say Roberto Martinez deserves a semblance of credit?
Post by: TheRam on April 25, 2017, 10:06:28 PM
It was played at a snails pace a few years back. Now it's a geared a lot more to mirror premier league football.
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 25, 2017, 10:06:58 PM
How much do we think this means/doesn't mean then? Was listening to a journo, Mike Calvin, on the Echo podcast the other day who has just written a book on youth football saying that the PL2 is basically a load of old shite, and largely ineffective in producing the level of football and players needed to break into Prem teams. He was saying that's why so many clubs loan their best prospects out.I imagine it will provide more oppurtunities for the younger lads to forge careers in football. Whether its with Everton or not
Don't mean to put a downer on things, because I'm buzzing for the lads, but it did give me pause for thought.
Post by: GLewis on April 25, 2017, 10:15:45 PM
It can't do any harm, winning of course, apart from maybe creating unrealistic expectations that we'll have 5 or 6 players in the first team / squad soon.
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 25, 2017, 10:26:07 PM
............think it's just box office and Everton One or Twot
Yep popped down to the box office, 5 unreserved tickets upper bullens, can see them opening 3/4 of the ground tbh if they think 20,000 are expected
Post by: Robioto on April 25, 2017, 10:41:59 PM
t
Yep popped down to the box office, 5 unreserved tickets upper bullens, can see them opening 3/4 of the ground tbh if they think 20,000 are expected
It will be awesome if 20,000 go.
Post by: blargins on April 25, 2017, 11:16:14 PM
.............can't remember when I last wrote a cheque , everything now is cards or bank transfers. Even my last car I bought with debit card. Times change. Still like to carry cash though.
I like cheques. I like seeing something. I prefer receiving them from my clients as I have no charges to pay.
Would never dream of buying a car on a debit card. Most dealerships would say no here because of the high transaction fees.
Cheques are very common still here.
Post by: Toddacelli on April 25, 2017, 11:19:03 PM
.............can't remember when I last wrote a cheque , everything now is cards or bank transfers. Even my last car I bought with debit card. Times change. Still like to carry cash though.
Can we move this from the U23 Thread to the O73 Thread for you and @blargins (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=54) please? ;)
Post by: Alanvideo on April 25, 2017, 11:56:09 PM
t..................I'm baffled why they started with the UB rather than the MS. I guess quite a few kopites will go ,you know ,all those disenfranchised locals who can't get tickets to Anfield.
Yep popped down to the box office, 5 unreserved tickets upper bullens, can see them opening 3/4 of the ground tbh if they think 20,000 are expected
Post by: Trowel on April 26, 2017, 12:32:31 AM
In the past two-and-a-half years, the national and international scouting network has expanded from nine scouts to 109 working across the UK and at all major international youth tournaments.
The goal, now achievable, is to scout every team of each of the 92 Football League clubs from Under-9 to Under-16 every season; effectively to know every single professional youth player in the country.
:clap:
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/04/18/cultivating-talent
Post by: ajax_andy on April 26, 2017, 12:59:39 AM
Not U-23 specific, but there was a great piece on the OS the other week about the Academy and how we bring youth through - the line about how we've expanded our scouting network caught my eye:
In the past two-and-a-half years, the national and international scouting network has expanded from nine scouts to 109 working across the UK and at all major international youth tournaments.
The goal, now achievable, is to scout every team of each of the 92 Football League clubs from Under-9 to Under-16 every season; effectively to know every single professional youth player in the country.
:clap:
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/04/18/cultivating-talent
That's pretty amazing really... 109 scouts sounds a lot but you sell one John Stones and you've covered their wages 10 times over for a decade.
Post by: Toddacelli on April 26, 2017, 06:31:46 PM
Not U-23 specific, but there was a great piece on the OS the other week about the Academy and how we bring youth through - the line about how we've expanded our scouting network caught my eye:
In the past two-and-a-half years, the national and international scouting network has expanded from nine scouts to 109 working across the UK and at all major international youth tournaments.
The goal, now achievable, is to scout every team of each of the 92 Football League clubs from Under-9 to Under-16 every season; effectively to know every single professional youth player in the country.
:clap:
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/04/18/cultivating-talent
I can do that! Gizza job!
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42967000/jpg/_42967487_yosser_203.jpg)
Post by: Lxxx on April 26, 2017, 06:42:01 PM
Mate of mine his kid has been offered a place at their academy with an offer to pay for his private education and all kinds of other incentives. It's tempting for my mate to recommend he take it as even if he doesn't make it, which is likely, he's had access to an education and experience he'd otherwise not have been able to get close to.
Post by: stirlingblue on April 28, 2017, 04:37:27 AM
they seem to throw obscene amounts of money at everyone
Isn't that what you have to do now? That's what Liverpool got in trouble for not doing.
If you want to offer one kid free school as a deal sweetener cos he looks the dogs bollocks then you've got to offer the same to every kid in your academy.
Great for the kids, and not like the football clubs can't afford it.
Post by: Lxxx on April 28, 2017, 04:48:37 PM
Isn't that what you have to do now? That's what Liverpool got in trouble for not doing.
If you want to offer one kid free school as a deal sweetener cos he looks the dogs bollocks then you've got to offer the same to every kid in your academy.
Great for the kids, and not like the football clubs can't afford it.
Hasn't worked out too great for them so far, throwing money at every bit of talent they spot. City just hoover up every kid who stands out in the whole area and hope one of them turns out to be a star. Have done for the past decade. Nothing even makes the bench, barring Iheanacho, and even he's been sidelined now.
They're a strange club who are kind of lost in who they are and what they are trying to achieve.. They spend vast amounts on their academy and youth recruitment but then give their managers unlimited funds to buy a trophy. I know a few people on their coaching staff at that level and they're a bit disillusioned with what they're expected to achieve and where the continuity is from one level to the next.
Although we only just beat them to the U-23 title it looks like we're miles apart in the model we operate. Probably by necessity but still, at least kids can see the career progression.
Post by: Toffee1 on April 28, 2017, 06:06:34 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4453064/Everton-s-dream-academy-beat-big-spenders-23s-title-fans-dubbing-group-young-stars-Golden-Generation.html
Post by: Macca77 on April 28, 2017, 06:08:04 PM
Post by: bigmanbob on April 28, 2017, 06:20:21 PM
Post by: Lxxx on April 28, 2017, 08:36:13 PM
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-boss-koeman-dampens-expectation-12959825
Post by: Macca77 on April 28, 2017, 08:38:18 PM
We shouldn't get too excited about seeing any of these players make the step up next season then...
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-boss-koeman-dampens-expectation-12959825
Watched the presser and he was pretty harsh about any of the youngsters chances
Post by: Lxxx on April 28, 2017, 08:42:04 PM
Watched the presser and he was pretty harsh about any of the youngsters chances
He's got a point though. We've already seen five kids step up to the first team this season, with varying success, and they'll all probably stay there for next season. To make the next jump to a top 4 challenge we need players who can make an impact and win games not just take part in games. That costs big money though. Over to you Steve.
Post by: Major Clanger on April 28, 2017, 08:52:07 PM
Post by: GLewis on April 28, 2017, 09:15:20 PM
He's got a point though. We've already seen five kids step up to the first team this season, with varying success, and they'll all probably stay there for next season. To make the next jump to a top 4 challenge we need players who can make an impact and win games not just take part in games. That costs big money though. Over to you Steve.
Said this at the game on Sat.
We've got no guarantees as options on the bench in the attacking areas.
It's good for youngsters to play ahead of people like Kone or equivalents as they'd be wasted minutes but if we're going to make bigger strides more quickly we need players who you know are going to be able to produce.
In reality our front 3 has Lukaku as a natural and performing fit; Barkley who has found a niche on the right and improved his decision making and creative play at home but still doesn't score enough; and on the left has been a rotation of players who for varying reasons haven't been good enough often enough.
That's without the plan that we'd have 2/3 subs who theoretically should be challenging the 3 starting players for their places.
So then bear in mind that the youngsters in the u23 team are behind those who are in and around the first team.
Post by: GLewis on April 28, 2017, 09:16:33 PM
He said the same thing about Davies too at the start of the season. When they'll be ready, they'll hopefully be given a chance.
Yes.
Plus the end of the season (winning something or not) isn't some sort of qualifying milestone.
It doesn't mean that players now have to be ready or that's it.
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on May 08, 2017, 09:30:14 PM
Post by: blue1948 on May 08, 2017, 09:42:21 PM
Post by: bluestevie on May 08, 2017, 10:16:20 PM
For all us castoffs is it on Everton tv ?
Yes for a £2.99 donation to Where The Home Is
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 08, 2017, 10:18:47 PM
Apparently the players miss last two games
https://twitter.com/England/status/861536164741750784
Post by: Alanvideo on May 08, 2017, 10:29:18 PM
Don't forget this tonight lads, off to UB , what do you think the queue's will be like??, what time would get their?? live 20min away(walking)...................it's such a nice evening ,I reckon loads will go last minute ,including RS ,and it'll be chaos. KO 7pm but don't know if they presenting the trophy first .
Post by: Lxxx on May 08, 2017, 10:29:47 PM
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on May 08, 2017, 11:04:46 PM
We've got virtually a quarter of the whole England squad. Not bad.
That's a lot of Toffee scapegoats for when we don't win the tourney.
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on May 08, 2017, 11:27:54 PM
...................it's such a nice evening ,I reckon loads will go last minute ,including RS ,and it'll be chaos. KO 7pm but don't know if they presenting the trophy first .Turnstiles open 6.15 , think we will leave @6pm
Post by: TheRam on May 09, 2017, 12:28:40 AM
Post by: Everton Mint on May 09, 2017, 12:36:19 AM
Is it live or not ? Anyone in the UK watching ?
Post by: Major Clanger on May 09, 2017, 12:39:24 AM
Why is the website saying: 'Please note: Delayed coverage from 5.15pm in the UK' ?
Is it live or not ? Anyone in the UK watching ?
It's on here for a £4 donation to Home is Where the Heart is, which is a great cause.
http://preseason.evertonfc.com/live
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 09, 2017, 12:54:43 AM
Post by: Goaljira on May 09, 2017, 01:02:21 AM
England u20 squad
Apparently the players miss last two games
https://twitter.com/England/status/861536164741750784
Without Kenny, Lookman and DCL will we be able to fill the bench on friday? Bit shit that Kenny doesnt get a chance to start.
Post by: curro.uk on May 09, 2017, 01:02:38 AM
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Post by: curro.uk on May 09, 2017, 01:03:55 AM
Post by: Major Clanger on May 09, 2017, 01:08:43 AM
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on May 09, 2017, 01:13:34 AM
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 09, 2017, 01:39:15 AM
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Post by: D15TIN on May 09, 2017, 01:41:39 AM
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on May 09, 2017, 01:49:06 AM
Sportsmania lfc TV if you have it / want to watch it
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I've got one of them dodgy boxes and it has LFC TV on it, but it's becoming unbearable listening to Neil Mellor and that other gobshite.
Post by: Major Clanger on May 09, 2017, 01:52:27 AM
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 09, 2017, 01:55:17 AM
I think Beni Baningime will be the next young player to be given a couple of minutes in the first team. I certainly expect him to travel to pre-season with the first team.Unsworth has mentioned him a few times now
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on May 09, 2017, 01:56:44 AM
I think Beni Baningime will be the next young player to be given a couple of minutes in the first team. I certainly expect him to travel to pre-season with the first team.
The new Kante.
Post by: Shogun on May 09, 2017, 02:06:06 AM
Post by: Ross on May 09, 2017, 02:15:30 AM
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 09, 2017, 02:15:59 AM
As if they're on course to do the double over us despite Everton winning the league.It's literally in our dna
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on May 09, 2017, 02:19:26 AM
Post by: Shogun on May 09, 2017, 02:19:58 AM
Getting tonked here and the LFC TV commentator is having a wank
Wonder if they'll stick around for the presentation
Post by: Everton Mint on May 09, 2017, 02:20:01 AM
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 09, 2017, 02:20:35 AM
Good goal
Post by: Major Clanger on May 09, 2017, 02:20:43 AM
As if they're on course to do the double over us despite Everton winning the league.
Shows how good we are. Winning the league even when we give everybody a 6 point advantage (and 12 for them lot).
Post by: ally2 on May 09, 2017, 02:20:52 AM
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on May 09, 2017, 02:25:18 AM
Kenny is definitely ready to challenge for RB in the first team though.
Post by: Bluedylan on May 09, 2017, 02:28:31 AM
Kenny is definitely ready to challenge for RB in the first team though.
Saves us a bit of money in the summer. Kenny and Holgate can cover Seamus' absence.
Post by: ally2 on May 09, 2017, 02:32:58 AM
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on May 09, 2017, 02:37:52 AM
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on May 09, 2017, 02:44:47 AM
Post by: Bluedylan on May 09, 2017, 02:45:04 AM
Post by: Major Clanger on May 09, 2017, 02:45:28 AM
The rest of them unfortunately are well below their best.
But we got one back, and that's all that matters on the night :)
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on May 09, 2017, 02:48:20 AM
Kenny in particular really is great
Post by: Major Clanger on May 09, 2017, 02:54:41 AM
Baningime And Kenny are a level above the rest by the looks of it.
Kenny in particular really is great
Baningime is only 18 too.
Post by: Major Clanger on May 09, 2017, 02:57:02 AM
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Post by: Audrey Horne on May 09, 2017, 03:29:52 AM
Post by: Macca77 on May 09, 2017, 04:17:51 AM
Post by: Bally on May 09, 2017, 04:30:16 AM
Pitch invasions at an under 23's game though, lids in the park end throwing cans onto the pitch as wellKopites from the paddock fucking jumped on as well the little cunts
Post by: brap2 on May 09, 2017, 05:16:30 AM
I was sat MS in line with the park end and didn't see any cans. Saw a tropical luco hit the pitch after our goal like but that was thrown from the MS.
From our side Beni and Kenny looked good, the rest looked like kids. Even Besic.
They also didn't look particularly good. Gruijic looked like the only grown up on the pitch, and their n.9 was a pacey trouble. Most uneasy I've seen Feeney and Pennington tbh, both looked a bit jarg on the ball, barring one good pass from Feeney in the second half.
Oh and I liked Sambou, ran his bollocks off and looked like he had a little bit on the ball but he never really got a chance. Dyson put himself about abit but looked a bit like a knucklehead if you know what I mean.
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on May 09, 2017, 05:30:40 AM
Post by: Bluebridge on May 09, 2017, 02:00:53 PM
Post by: Bally on May 09, 2017, 03:01:25 PM
The pitch invasion was one of the funniest things I've seen for a long time, as for the players on display, Kenny really stood out, plays very similar to Coleman.The pitch invasion really fucking pissed me off, the club do something nice, the free entry was a lovely touch, then little fucking knobheads try and spoil it so they can go into school tomorrow with the YouTube video they recorded on their fucking phones, if that was one of mine I'd have slapped the fucking spit out of them.
My daughter knew pretty much every one if the little cunts that went on from the lower Bullens, I fucking hate it.
Post by: Macca77 on May 09, 2017, 03:16:30 PM
The pitch invasion really fucking pissed me off, the club do something nice, the free entry was a lovely touch, then little fucking knobheads try and spoil it so they can go into school tomorrow with the YouTube video they recorded on their fucking phones, if that was one of mine I'd have slapped the fucking spit out of them.
My daughter knew pretty much every one if the little cunts that went on from the lower Bullens, I fucking hate it.
Quite a few of them got grabbed by angry fans when they ran into the park end and were lashed out
Post by: TheRam on May 09, 2017, 05:33:50 PM
Post by: Macca77 on May 09, 2017, 05:35:27 PM
I was in the park end and didn't see anyone thrown cans on the pitch or fans grabbing the ketwigs.
Quite a few of them were sat close to me, main stand side
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 01, 2017, 03:51:18 PM
Allegedly
Everton are interested in signing Boris Mathis, very interested if L’Equipe are to be believed.
The French newspaper, in their Saturday edition, say Everton are the ‘most serious’ option for Mathis right now. L’Equipe go as far as saying the Metz player ‘could leave Lorraine very soon and sign a first professional contract with a Premier League club.’
Le Republicain Lorraine (http://www.republicain-lorrain.fr/sports/2017/06/30/football-le-jeune-attaquant-du-fc-metz-boris-mathis-s-engage-avec-everton), a local media outlet, say Mathis has already signed a two year contract with Everton, but they base that on a tweet from their journalist Jean-Séb Gallois, since deleted.
Gallois later sent out another tweet (https://twitter.com/RLgallois/status/880828511736528896), without the 2 year timeframe, saying Mathis has agreed to join Everton.
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Post by: Goaljira on July 01, 2017, 04:04:35 PM
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 01, 2017, 04:16:30 PM
Norwegian, Swedish.... It's all the same
Post by: Confucius on July 01, 2017, 04:18:55 PM
Someone take him into town and buy him some trainers!
And some socks
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on July 01, 2017, 04:20:25 PM
https://twitter.com/nedretvedt/status/880897814531899393Was ready to write something but ah well...
Norwegian, Swedish.... It's all the same
Over to Trevor Stevens then
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 01, 2017, 06:56:48 PM
Post by: di_guyo on July 01, 2017, 07:04:24 PM
Seems we're very serious about the U23s. I love it.
Every reason to be. So unpredictable at that age that one of these players not labelled wonderkids could actually be the one to kick on. Look at Michael Keane. Worst case scenario they never make it to the first team, but they help the rest of the lads win U23s, so that when they come up they're winners and they're confident in their abilities. I really like this initiative.
Post by: brap2 on July 02, 2017, 03:51:40 AM
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 02, 2017, 03:56:55 AM
Anton Donkor signing tomorrow apparently.
At the Hilton (?). In his IG story http://instagram.com/anton_donkor
Post by: Goaljira on July 02, 2017, 04:23:49 AM
Anton Donkor signing tomorrow apparently.
The lad we had on loan who got injured right away?
Post by: sam of the south on July 02, 2017, 04:27:06 AM
The lad we had on loan who got injured right away?
Yeah, that's the one, German forward
Post by: brap2 on July 02, 2017, 04:28:47 AM
The lad we had on loan who got injured right away?
That's him. Got some good reviews here and we're obviously keen to see abit more of him.
Maybe a big day Monday with a load of U23's and a few first teamers.
Post by: Toddacelli on July 02, 2017, 02:12:17 PM
That's him. Got some good reviews here and we're obviously keen to see abit more of him.
Maybe a big day Monday with a load of U23's and a few first teamers.
Can't wait till tomorrow!
Post by: Hesmenos on July 02, 2017, 02:36:18 PM
https://twitter.com/nedretvedt/status/880897814531899393Isn't this the 15 year old kid? I imagine he won't be going into the U23s team.
Norwegian, Swedish.... It's all the same
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 05, 2017, 09:18:57 PM
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/07/05/blues-sign-mathis
Post by: Lincs Toffee on July 05, 2017, 10:03:05 PM
Someone take him into town and buy him some trainers!And some trousers the right length....or am I now showing my age ?
Post by: Goaljira on July 06, 2017, 09:06:41 PM
Made up with this. 2 years too, not just the 1 like the kids the other day.
Post by: pjk on July 06, 2017, 09:08:21 PM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/882962373920735232
Made up with this. 2 years too, not just the 1 like the kids the other day.
Thought I'd leave it to you in case I screwed it up again. :)
Post by: Lxxx on July 06, 2017, 09:16:30 PM
Post by: TheRam on July 07, 2017, 05:54:23 AM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/882962373920735232
Made up with this. 2 years too, not just the 1 like the kids the other day.
Looks very good this lad. Think he's younger than most at his group as well?
Looking forward to seeing how he develops.
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 07, 2017, 05:56:03 AM
Post by: Lazarou on July 07, 2017, 08:12:29 PM
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Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 08, 2017, 06:26:45 AM
Despite our lads performances this summer none of them made the cut.
http://www.skysports.com/share/10936111
Post by: brap2 on July 08, 2017, 06:47:05 AM
Who could break through in '17 - '18.
Despite our lads performances this summer none of them made the cut.
http://www.skysports.com/share/10936111
Fucking tits aren't they.
Win the U23 prem and have 5 in the World Cup winning team and don't get a mention.
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 08, 2017, 02:01:21 PM
Fucking tits aren't they.
Win the U23 prem and have 5 in the World Cup winning team and don't get a mention.
It's very strange. I think you'd have to actively avoid young blues in order to leave them out of this type of thing. I mean, were top of the youth pile at the moment in many ways. So how on earth could none of the lads feature?
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 09, 2017, 02:40:58 PM
Tickled me this
Post by: Escla on July 09, 2017, 02:47:47 PM
Fucking tits aren't they.
Win the U23 prem and have 5 in the World Cup winning team and don't get a mention.
That really does take the fucking biscuit !
Post by: BlueForYou on July 09, 2017, 02:58:08 PM
Post by: dazfrancis on July 16, 2017, 04:25:12 AM
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Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 16, 2017, 04:28:47 AM
Post by: Shogun on July 16, 2017, 04:31:58 AM
Has Baxter joined up with us yet?
Post by: ally2 on July 19, 2017, 05:53:31 AM
Post by: BlueBeagle on July 19, 2017, 12:19:02 PM
"Sambon"
Has Baxter joined up with us yet?
Forgot all about that
Post by: bigmanbob on July 19, 2017, 03:29:15 PM
Fucking tits aren't they.That Chilwell looked excellent in the World Cup
Win the U23 prem and have 5 in the World Cup winning team and don't get a mention.
Post by: stirlingblue on July 19, 2017, 03:30:00 PM
That Chilwell looked excellent in the World Cup
He looked excellent against us last year too, would be a great successor to Baines
Post by: Audrey Horne on July 19, 2017, 07:36:53 PM
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Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 20, 2017, 02:41:17 PM
Post by: Lxxx on July 20, 2017, 02:43:04 PM
Post by: Thornton_19 on July 20, 2017, 02:49:09 PM
Geordies are fuming about this young left back we are taking from them. Looks like they expected him to break into the first team this season.Maybe this is our back up/Baines' long term replacement.
Or we are doing what Chelsea and City do and stockpiling players to sell at a later date.
Post by: Lxxx on July 20, 2017, 03:00:14 PM
Maybe this is our back up/Baines' long term replacement.
Or we are doing what Chelsea and City do and stockpiling players to sell at a later date.
A bit of both probably. If one doesn't work they're an income stream to buy someone who does.
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on July 20, 2017, 03:02:47 PM
Geordies are fuming about this young left back we are taking from them. Looks like they expected him to break into the first team this season.
I would love it, love it if we signed him.
Post by: Juanito on July 20, 2017, 03:07:47 PM
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/631143/Joshua-Zirkzee-Everton-Arsenal-Manchester-United-transfer-news
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on July 20, 2017, 03:10:23 PM
At any level, that's a bit good like.
Post by: bigmanbob on July 20, 2017, 06:49:24 PM
Post by: Alanvideo on July 20, 2017, 07:37:54 PM
Joe Williams has gone to Barnsley on a season long loan...................so that's Pennington ,Browning ,Galloway and Williams gone out on loan ,plus Henry and any others I've forgotten. We're turning into Chelsea !
Post by: brap2 on July 20, 2017, 07:50:22 PM
Post by: Lxxx on July 20, 2017, 07:56:20 PM
...................so that's Pennington ,Browning ,Galloway and Williams gone out on loan ,plus Henry and any others I've forgotten. We're turning into Chelsea !
Well they've made about £130m in sales since January so it's clearly a model that works. Although I'd like to think we'd be doing this with a view to a proportion of them actually making it with us and saving us a fortune like.
Post by: Thornton_19 on July 20, 2017, 09:30:31 PM
...................so that's Pennington ,Browning ,Galloway and Williams gone out on loan ,plus Henry and any others I've forgotten. We're turning into Chelsea !Fucking hope so 5 league titles 4 Fa Cups and a European Cup in 15 years. I'd love that.
Post by: bigmanbob on July 20, 2017, 09:58:31 PM
Last years U23 league winners, those good enough, move them into the senior squad, for those not quite there, loan them out and spend a not inconsiderable amount replacing them. It makes an already enviable youth set up even stronger
It's amazing what you can do when you're minted
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 20, 2017, 10:29:41 PM
It's an interesting approach though which seems to be premeditated.
Last years U23 league winners, those good enough, move them into the senior squad, for those not quite there, loan them out and spend a not inconsiderable amount replacing them. It makes an already enviable youth set up even stronger
It's amazing what you can do when you're minted
I don't even think it's about being rich. It's about having plans in place. We seem to have a clear vision on every part of the club now. Moshiri has been brilliant in terms of making us a truly professional outfit
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 20, 2017, 11:56:54 PM
Something tells me it could be a nice tasty thread this season.
Post by: Lazarou on July 27, 2017, 05:15:40 PM
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Post by: BlueForYou on July 27, 2017, 10:50:20 PM
Problem solved!
Post by: Lxxx on July 28, 2017, 12:54:32 AM
That must be Matty Foulds from Bury - left footed centre back
Problem solved!
Mates dad is a season ticket holder at Bury and even he wondered why Everton were buying him. He wasn't anything special at that level so God knows what Reeves and Martinez saw in him.
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on August 06, 2017, 03:12:48 AM
Post by: Bob Sacamano on August 06, 2017, 03:16:05 AM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on August 06, 2017, 03:27:20 AM
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 06, 2017, 03:37:28 AM
Any news on Jose Baxter? Is he with the squad? Has he played any minutes
Apparently he just sits on a stool near Unsy everyday, whenever one of the younger lads fuck up or show a little bit of disobedience Unsy stands up, points at Baxter and says to the young lad "do you want to end up like him", it soon refocuses them.
Post by: Cassius on September 02, 2017, 02:20:30 AM
We've signed a lad called Dennis - not that Dennis, sorry @Toddacelli (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2432) - but an 18 year old from Fulham for £4m.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/11015694/everton-sign-teenager-dennis-adeniran-from-fulham (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/11015694/everton-sign-teenager-dennis-adeniran-from-fulham)
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Everton have signed Fulham's England U18 international midfielder Dennis Adeniran on a four-year deal.
The 18-year-old heads to Goodison Park on a deal until the summer of 2021 after making five senior appearances for the Sky Bet Championship club.
Including add-ons, Adeniran could end up costing Everton a fee of £4m, Sky Sports News understands.
Adeniran scored on his professional debut in an EFL Cup match at Leyton Orient 12 months ago, and he played two more games in that competition as well as one league outing and a single appearance in the FA Cup.
He played for England at the European U17 Championships in 2016, when the Young Lions reached the quarter-finals.
Post by: Toddacelli on September 02, 2017, 02:31:32 AM
Can't see anything on here about this, which may have been swallowed up by the excitement and success of deadline day, so forgive me if I'm repeating this.
We've signed a lad called Dennis - not that Dennis, sorry @Toddacelli (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2432) - but an 18 year old from Fulham for £4m.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/11015694/everton-sign-teenager-dennis-adeniran-from-fulham (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/11015694/everton-sign-teenager-dennis-adeniran-from-fulham)
Fulham fans react on Twitter:
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/09/01/absolutely-gutted-fulham-fans-react-on-twitter-to-dennis-adenira/
Post by: Lxxx on September 02, 2017, 03:39:57 AM
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Post by: MrWhite on September 03, 2017, 05:52:57 AM
Conor Grant taken to hospital after being knocked out in a collision playing for Crewe.. Can't find any updates on his condition, hope he's ok. :(
Post by: Major Clanger on September 03, 2017, 05:55:15 AM
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/evertons-conor-grant-taken-hospital-13564469
Conor Grant taken to hospital after being knocked out in a collision playing for Crewe.. Can't find any updates on his condition, hope he's ok. :(
Fortunately nothing serious.
https://twitter.com/crewealexfc/status/904055748132560897
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on September 05, 2017, 02:41:01 PM
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/turned-down-celtic-move-transfer-11103771
He is looking forward to helping knock Brendan Rodgers out of the CL in a couple of weeks, when they meet. We will have to keep our eye on that if anyone is interested in seeing him play, if he gets a start. We are going to have some squad in a year or two with all these excellent kids.
Post by: Shogun on September 05, 2017, 03:05:24 PM
Don't forget our Henry over at Anderlect - it was "his destiny" to join us!
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/turned-down-celtic-move-transfer-11103771
He is looking forward to helping knock Brendan Rodgers out of the CL in a couple of weeks, when they meet. We will have to keep our eye on that if anyone is interested in seeing him play, if he gets a start. We are going to have some squad in a year or two with all these excellent kids.
Be good if he can score any goal for the soon then.
Post by: Hawkandro on September 05, 2017, 06:47:23 PM
Post by: brap2 on September 05, 2017, 07:40:12 PM
Does anyone know what happened with Zirkzee in the end?
Went to someone fancy, Bayern maybe.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 08, 2017, 04:54:40 PM
Post by: Bob Sacamano on September 08, 2017, 09:19:54 PM
Post by: BlueForYou on September 09, 2017, 12:17:43 AM
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 09, 2017, 12:43:59 AM
Who was that #16 at the end of the second vid?
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/08/29/highlights-chelsea-0-3-under-23s
lol i also been through the under 21 squad.. the only player who looks like the 16 (only saw him run from behind when he took the shot) is Boris Mathis. but i have no idea really.
http://www.evertonfc.com/teams/under-23s?page=2
Post by: brap2 on September 09, 2017, 01:40:36 AM
Who was that #16 at the end of the second vid?
Looked good didn't he. I thought maybe henen?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on September 09, 2017, 02:18:09 AM
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/08/29/highlights-chelsea-0-3-under-23s
lol i also been through the under 21 squad.. the only player who looks like the 16 (only saw him run from behind when he took the shot) is Boris Mathis. but i have no idea really.
http://www.evertonfc.com/teams/under-23s?page=2
He back from injury? I've heard he's a top prospect.
Post by: Bob Sacamano on September 09, 2017, 02:18:39 AM
Looked good didn't he. I thought maybe henen?
Seemed to have that bit extra didn't he.
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 09, 2017, 07:42:15 AM
Looked good didn't he. I thought maybe henen?
Henen ain't white, and is too often shite lolol
(To clarify, by shite I mean inconsistent and he's been playing at U21/U23 level for ages already, plus an unsuccessful loan to League One. The Echo think we tried to sell him in January.)
Number 16 was Nathan Broadhead, @Everton Mint (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3381) was backing him in the "U23 for Europa" thread, perhaps he'll be the next Davies that goes from not being good enough to loan out to getting his head down to make a surprise emergence from the U23's!
Post by: brap2 on September 09, 2017, 04:44:27 PM
Henen ain't white, and is too often shite lolol
(To clarify, by shite I mean inconsistent and he's been playing at U21/U23 level for ages already, plus an unsuccessful loan to League One. The Echo think we tried to sell him in January.)
Number 16 was Nathan Broadhead, @Everton Mint (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3381) was backing him in the "U23 for Europa" thread, perhaps he'll be the next Davies that goes from not being good enough to loan out to getting his head down to make a surprise emergence from the U23's!
Good shout
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 10, 2017, 06:58:58 PM
Supposedly you have to be a paid member of Everton in some capacity to watch it!
Robles
Kenny, Feeney, Gibson, Foulds
Baningme, Charsley
Jones, Adeniran, Lookman
Niasse
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 10, 2017, 07:12:23 PM
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 10, 2017, 08:22:46 PM
Post by: Polledreng on September 10, 2017, 08:25:12 PM
Post by: Polledreng on September 10, 2017, 08:28:40 PM
Post by: TheRam on September 10, 2017, 08:29:19 PM
Post by: Trowel on September 10, 2017, 08:29:51 PM
No one watching then? Apparently there have been two more goals, 'stunning' strike from Lookman to restore our lead after they equalised.https://twitter.com/UpperGwladysBlu/status/906872118415171584
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 10, 2017, 08:31:45 PM
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on September 10, 2017, 08:33:32 PM
so 4-1 ten min to go
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 10, 2017, 09:26:49 PM
Post by: Shogun on September 10, 2017, 09:29:59 PM
Post by: Ravardo on September 11, 2017, 12:02:29 AM
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 11, 2017, 01:26:40 AM
Some have said Koeman is sticking with Martina as an ego thing: I've brought him to the club, I'm going to stick by him. But surely you wouldn't stick by a shit player when it could ultimately cost your team games/points?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 11, 2017, 01:44:44 AM
I've said it before but kinda tongue-in-cheek - Kenny must look dreadful in training or have some fundamental flaw that means he isn't starting games. Anyone seen much of him and can shed some light?
Some have said Koeman is sticking with Martina as an ego thing: I've brought him to the club, I'm going to stick by him. But surely you wouldn't stick by a shit player when it could ultimately cost your team games/points?
When Koeman left Saints, Martina didnt feature under the new manager all season lol, i think that says enough about him (Martina)
From what i've seen from Kenny, albeit under 23s and the england under 21 world cup winning team,. he is a replica of Coleman.
I dont get it, Holgate, Kenny, and then we buy Martina.. i know it was a freebie,. but still.. must have knocked Kenny back a bit.
Koeman claims to give youth chance, but i think he's just as stubborn as Moyes.
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 11, 2017, 03:01:24 AM
When Koeman left Saints, Martina didnt feature under the new manager all season lol, i think that says enough about him (Martina)
From what i've seen from Kenny, albeit under 23s and the england under 21 world cup winning team,. he is a replica of Coleman.
I dont get it, Holgate, Kenny, and then we buy Martina.. i know it was a freebie,. but still.. must have knocked Kenny back a bit.
Koeman claims to give youth chance, but i think he's just as stubborn as Moyes.
100% agreed, I hope the latter line isn't true and it's something we don't get to see making up Koeman's mind about (not) playing him.
Post by: Shogun on September 11, 2017, 03:14:28 AM
I've said it before but kinda tongue-in-cheek - Kenny must look dreadful in training or have some fundamental flaw that means he isn't starting games. Anyone seen much of him and can shed some light?
Some have said Koeman is sticking with Martina as an ego thing: I've brought him to the club, I'm going to stick by him. But surely you wouldn't stick by a shit player when it could ultimately cost your team games/points?
As well as Koeman has done with the youth, he does seem a bit reluctant to give them a chance initially.
If it weren't for injuries then Tom Cleverley would still be around and Tom Davies out on loan.
Post by: stirlingblue on September 11, 2017, 01:39:59 PM
But surely you wouldn't stick by a shit player when it could ultimately cost your team games/points?
*cough* Williams *cough*
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 11, 2017, 07:48:15 PM
https://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2017/9/10/16283388/everton-under-23s-tottenham-4-1-match-recap-highlights-watch-goals
gizzblue has the much better official highlights linked below.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 11, 2017, 08:27:44 PM
he looks composed, aware of whats going on around him, i know it was the reserve league, but he's offered more in that highlights package (and the chelsea highlights) to be ahead of Sandro for me.,. which is fucking unbelievable.
Post by: hill135 on September 11, 2017, 08:48:42 PM
Niasse doesnt seem like the same raw talent we originally signed.
he looks composed, aware of whats going on around him, i know it was the reserve league, but he's offered more in that highlights package (and the chelsea highlights) to be ahead of Sandro for me.,. which is fucking unbelievable.
It's under 23s football!
Post by: gizzblue on September 11, 2017, 09:10:45 PM
Quality from Niasse
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 11, 2017, 09:17:12 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jllg3kHtULs
Quality from Niasse
That's more like it! So they took 24 hours to slap the official highlights up...
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 11, 2017, 09:20:37 PM
It's under 23s football!
So his good control, passing and finishing can't translate? I'd agree his movement might not look so hot against better defenders, I bet you posted that without watching the goals!
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 11, 2017, 09:55:26 PM
posted with out the hyperlink
awesome cross by kenny, plus the ball down the line to Henen for the third goal, what does he have to do to get a look in??
Post by: themilkycoffees on September 11, 2017, 10:02:31 PM
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 11, 2017, 10:07:08 PM
If Niasse was an academy product, we'd all be crying out for him to be starting in the first team. He can't be any worse than what we've seen so far....can he?
I don't want him getting thrown in against Utd but I hope he's at least on the bench for the EFL cup tie. I think it's more likely Koeman will see that fixture as a chance to build the confidence of his preferred players though. It just seems he's earnt a shot at some senior game-time against somebody or other.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 11, 2017, 10:10:34 PM
I don't want him getting thrown in against Utd but I hope he's at least on the bench for the EFL cup tie. I think it's more likely Koeman will see that fixture as a chance to build the confidence of his preferred players though. It just seems he's earnt a shot at some senior game-time against somebody or other.
i would throw him in against united.. play DCL up top with NIASSETY, give Man U something different to think about, 2 strikers who want to stretch the pitch, then we can play 3-5-2 and pack out midfield/defense. least we will have 2 players with decent pace who want to get in behind.. i'd drop Rooney, Sig will have to runners/strikers to aim for..
worth a shot in my view.. i bet with that strikeforce we have more than the average of 1.75 shots on target a match.
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 11, 2017, 10:16:32 PM
i would throw him in against united.. play DCL up top with NIASSETY, give Man U something different to think about, 2 strikers who want to stretch the pitch, then we can play 3-5-2 and pack out midfield/defense. least we will have 2 players with decent pace who want to get in behind.. i'd drop Rooney, Sig will have to runners/strikers to aim for..
worth a shot in my view.. i bet with that strikeforce we have more than the average of 1.75 shots on target a match.
Never going to happen though, is it? It would mean dropping Rooney and Klaassen, and only one of DCL or Sandro could start with Oumar.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 11, 2017, 10:21:46 PM
Never going to happen though, is it? It would mean dropping Rooney and Klaassen, and only one of DCL or Sandro could start with Oumar.
id drop rooney/sandro and klaassen for the man utd match and play alll 3 of them behind DCL v Atlanta lol.
Post by: brap2 on September 11, 2017, 10:25:53 PM
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 11, 2017, 10:28:44 PM
Isn't he excluded from EL squad?
I nearly had that reaction then realised what SANA says makes sense, Sandro/Rooney/Klaassen behind DCL for the Europa, for Utd he'd play Niasse with one of Rooney/Sandro and have Sigurdsson behind them!
Never going to happen nor should it of course!
Post by: Lxxx on September 11, 2017, 10:52:13 PM
Post by: TheRam on September 11, 2017, 10:55:18 PM
For a minute there I thought I read that people wanted to see Niasse thrown in to play away at Old Trafford.
Call me mad but I'd have him on the bench instead of Mirallas.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 11, 2017, 10:57:57 PM
For a minute there I thought I read that people wanted to see Niasse thrown in to play away at Old Trafford.
lol thats what i said dcl up top with big niassety
I nearly had that reaction then realised what SANA says makes sense, Sandro/Rooney/Klaassen behind DCL for the Europa, for Utd he'd play Niasse with one of Rooney/Sandro and have Sigurdsson behind them!
Never going to happen nor should it of course!
close, for united id play dcl and niasse up top with Siggy behind them gana and Schneiderlin in midfield, 2 wing backs, 3 cbs.
hopefully that way, we may get some rest bite for our defense, with big niasste and dcl making runs in behind.. we could even play Martina,, as he gets crossed into the box!
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 14, 2017, 06:22:46 AM
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 16, 2017, 10:46:08 PM
noticed a new channel on sky (i dont subscribe to any of the channels) its 424 FREESPORTS, it has live La Liga on it and has live matches from the Belgian Jupiler league... tomorrow morning they're showing Kortrik V Anderlecht. I expect Onyekuru to score a hat-trick! (think the match is played today tho, recorded match tomorrow) but last week they showed 3 live games from the Jupiler league
FreeSports launches in UK - these are the football matches it will show
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/freesports-launches-uk-football-matches-13549972
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on September 17, 2017, 02:45:36 AM
under 23 related :p
noticed a new channel on sky (i dont subscribe to any of the channels) its 424 FREESPORTS, it has live La Liga on it and has live matches from the Belgian Jupiler league... tomorrow morning they're showing Kortrik V Anderlecht. I expect Onyekuru to score a hat-trick! (think the match is played today tho, recorded match tomorrow) but last week they showed 3 live games from the Jupiler league
FreeSports launches in UK - these are the football matches it will show
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/freesports-launches-uk-football-matches-13549972
Onyekuru came on in the 63rd minute and scored the equalizer in the 76th minute...he rescued a point for them in a 2-2 draw. Also booked.
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 18, 2017, 08:27:49 PM
Also, Gone a bit quiet on the dowell front, anyone know how he is doing?
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 18, 2017, 08:38:01 PM
Browning was dropped after being the main culprit of Sunderland losing last Tuesday, it was a bit like Keane to Schneiderlin, if the receiving player had been a bit more alert the misplaced place would have still been recovered but alas he played the opposition winger in, seconds later it's a goal conceded.
Post by: Hesmenos on September 18, 2017, 09:38:51 PM
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 18, 2017, 09:56:55 PM
rather watch the under23s than the first team atm.
Post by: Martip on September 18, 2017, 09:57:58 PM
Galloway hasn't even made the bench in the last few matches. Is he injured or is his loan spell going tits up again?My Sunderland supporting pal said he s been dreadful
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 18, 2017, 09:59:00 PM
Galloway hasn't even made the bench in the last few matches. Is he injured or is his loan spell going tits up again?Its mad to think that people were saying he was better than Baines 2 years ago
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 18, 2017, 10:50:19 PM
but no everton ;/
just sorted it.. joined the Derby FC site, free streaming of under 23 games.
https://www.dcfc.co.uk/fixtures/results/2017/09/18/u23-v-everton#live-video
you have to register, then its free :)
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 18, 2017, 11:18:42 PM
p.s. Galloway is almost certainly injured because Donald Love and Adam Matthews are truly diabolical, not to mention Brendan is the only left-sided cover.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 19, 2017, 12:09:41 AM
I guess if Kenny plays tonight he doesn't play on Wednesday night..
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on September 19, 2017, 12:12:27 AM
Edit: not even on the bench, must be starting Wednesday.
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/909824356687028224
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 19, 2017, 12:14:26 AM
haha thanks Marky Mark,
I guess if Kenny plays tonight he doesn't play on Wednesday night..
Good call! Damn I've got work in 4 hours but I'm tempted to stay awake long enough to see the line-up haha
Nevermind, cheers @Duncs_a_legend (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=598) , that confirms it!
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 19, 2017, 12:17:42 AM
Kenny isn't playing I don't think?
Edit: not even on the bench, must be starting Wednesday.
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/909824356687028224
Awesome, cheers Dunc you legend!
I guess that means Koemans been on NSNO and knows we want to see the king Niasse and King Kenny :S on wednesday!!
even more excited about tonight now!
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 19, 2017, 12:22:30 AM
Awesome, cheers Dunc you legend!
I guess that means Koemans been on NSNO and knows we want to see the king Niasse and King Kenny :S on wednesday!!
even more excited about tonight now!
F'kin 'ell I'd forgotten about Jar-Jar Oumar :D
Post by: Lincs Toffee on September 19, 2017, 01:35:06 AM
Nice to watch an attacking Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 19, 2017, 01:48:19 AM
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 19, 2017, 02:29:52 AM
conditions are terrible tho
under 18 goal V West Brom
Post by: brap2 on September 19, 2017, 02:56:44 AM
lol you can watch Spurs v Swans on Sportklub 3 Slovenia
but no everton ;/
just sorted it.. joined the Derby FC site, free streaming of under 23 games.
https://www.dcfc.co.uk/fixtures/results/2017/09/18/u23-v-everton#live-video
you have to register, then its free :)
Nice one lid.
Only half watched it as I was playing PES then eating a chippy and watching Corrie, but stand out player for me was Anthony Evans.
Post by: TheRam on September 19, 2017, 03:01:18 AM
Kenny isn't playing I don't think?
Edit: not even on the bench, must be starting Wednesday.
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/909824356687028224
I've noticed the young French lad Mathis seems to be training with the first team and isn't in the squad there.
Oh and no niasse there either :)
Post by: TheRam on September 19, 2017, 03:01:49 AM
Post by: brap2 on September 19, 2017, 03:29:55 AM
I've noticed the young French lad Mathis seems to be training with the first team and isn't in the squad there.
Oh and no niasse there either :)
Or Lookman.
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 19, 2017, 03:31:59 AM
I've noticed the young French lad Mathis seems to be training with the first team and isn't in the squad there.A lad I know marked him in a friendly this summer, admittedly he was only playing for flint but he said the French lad was so strong and his touch was immense
Oh and no niasse there either :)
Post by: Lxxx on September 19, 2017, 04:20:13 AM
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on September 19, 2017, 04:21:12 AM
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 19, 2017, 04:26:27 AM
Nice one lid.
Only half watched it as I was playing PES then eating a chippy and watching Corrie, but stand out player for me was Anthony Evans.
for me it was the Derby striker Babos.
Post by: Martip on September 19, 2017, 04:27:11 AM
Post by: Lxxx on September 19, 2017, 04:28:39 AM
Post by: Bob Sacamano on September 19, 2017, 04:36:21 AM
Post by: Toddacelli on September 19, 2017, 04:36:28 AM
Anderlecht manager been sacked wonder if that will affect onyerkru?
Also, Gone a bit quiet on the dowell front, anyone know how he is doing?
News from Sherwod forest is that although the Tricky Trees (yes - they call themselves that - seriously) are playing shite at the moment, young Kieran is still turning heads.
He's finding it hard at the moment because he's not getting enough game-time according to the Forest faithful - and when he does - the rest of the team are so crap that he struggles to have an impact.
Word on the street though is that he is still considered their best midfielder, by most fans and by some distance.
Post by: Realist on September 19, 2017, 04:49:44 AM
Nice one lid.
Only half watched it as I was playing PES then eating a chippy and watching Corrie, but stand out player for me was Anthony Evans.
:snigger:
Post by: brap2 on September 19, 2017, 05:37:34 AM
:snigger:
🤷🏻♂️
Post by: Realist on September 19, 2017, 06:55:51 AM
🤷🏻♂️
😂👍
Post by: brap2 on September 19, 2017, 01:19:40 PM
Post by: bluenuck on September 19, 2017, 01:27:53 PM
Really don't know what you're getting at
Who Fukkin does.
Post by: Bob Sacamano on September 19, 2017, 01:46:35 PM
Really don't know what you're getting at
Just a dopey prick trying to troll.
Post by: Realist on September 19, 2017, 02:11:04 PM
Post by: brap2 on September 19, 2017, 03:21:41 PM
Was just messing mate as fifa is better imo, calm down ladies, false alarm. No need go get your knickers in a twist. Have a lovely day xxx
I was hoping it was that. I'm a newly converted PES man and will happily chat all day long about that.
However it probably says a lot about how on edge people are with you at the minute mate. I don't even always disagree with you because I'm so disappointed with the season so far but you're running the risk of just being seen as a token troll.
Not having a go, just pointing it out.
Post by: van der Meyde on September 19, 2017, 03:28:28 PM
Are we near the top of the league in this again? I know we started a bit ropey with all the new signings but are we back on it now?In 3rd on 10 points. 5 points off Liverpool who are top who have won all 5 games.
Post by: Realist on September 19, 2017, 03:29:15 PM
I was hoping it was that. I'm a newly converted PES man and will happily chat all day long about that.
However it probably says a lot about how on edge people are with you at the minute mate. I don't even always disagree with you because I'm so disappointed with the season so far but you're running the risk of just being seen as a token troll.
Not having a go, just pointing it out.
Yeah I tried PES but the servers were crap
I honestly couldn't care less if people are on edge with me mate
I've asked many times for people to show me examples of my trolling but they can't so it doesn't arse me what people think.
It's only a little harem who don't like me and it's mainly cos they don't like the truth.
But thanks for the heads up dude.
Hope you have a good day 👍
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 19, 2017, 03:36:41 PM
He's finding it hard at the moment because he's not getting enough game-time according to the Forest faithful
629 minutes from a possible 900 isn't bad really, he's had 2/3 of the gametime. Great that he's well thought of though.
Post by: Toddacelli on September 19, 2017, 04:29:33 PM
629 minutes from a possible 900 isn't bad really, he's had 2/3 of the gametime. Great that he's well thought of though.
Haha - dunno the stats but:
my boss, Lee, at work - "I don't know why they don't play him more"
my mate Angel "I think they're trying to protect him a bit - maybe there is an agreement with Everton that he won't play every game?"
my mum's next door neighbour Ian - "I love him - I just wish they'd play him more"
All season-ticket holders. Lee goes to most home games, Angel goes home and away, Ian goes every home game.
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 19, 2017, 10:17:54 PM
Haha - dunno the stats but:
my boss, Lee, at work - "I don't know why they don't play him more"
my mate Angel "I think they're trying to protect him a bit - maybe there is an agreement with Everton that he won't play every game?"
my mum's next door neighbour Ian - "I love him - I just wish they'd play him more"
All season-ticket holders. Lee goes to most home games, Angel goes home and away, Ian goes every home game.
Great stuff, thanks for sharing. I did look earlier, excluding added time he managed 62, 69, 27, 90, 62, 90, 90, 45, 63, 31 minutes which seems decent from our development perspective but it's high praise that the Forest faithful believe he should be getting more :)
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 19, 2017, 10:27:22 PM
Haha - dunno the stats but:Loved angel (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170919/52dcb08a37f1bd6e64df8a6d303bca7b.jpg)
my boss, Lee, at work - "I don't know why they don't play him more"
my mate Angel "I think they're trying to protect him a bit - maybe there is an agreement with Everton that he won't play every game?"
my mum's next door neighbour Ian - "I love him - I just wish they'd play him more"
All season-ticket holders. Lee goes to most home games, Angel goes home and away, Ian goes every home game.
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 21, 2017, 04:30:43 AM
Post by: Lincs Toffee on September 22, 2017, 12:46:31 AM
Onyekeru scored the winner for anderlecht tonight in a cup gameIt's like seeing a nice car in the showroom and you haven't past your test yet.. he should be doing that for us !
Post by: BlueForYou on September 22, 2017, 02:02:26 PM
Post by: Toddacelli on September 23, 2017, 04:39:46 AM
Post by: Toddacelli on September 23, 2017, 04:44:06 AM
3 goals in 6 games in the league
4 goals in 9 games in all competitions
I don;t know how many were starts or subs, sorry.
Post by: brap2 on September 23, 2017, 04:52:27 AM
Really interesting one this.
Post by: blargins on September 23, 2017, 05:27:17 AM
This year so far -
3 goals in 6 games in the league
4 goals in 9 games in all competitions
I don;t know how many were starts or subs, sorry.
I know he got 2 in one game.
Post by: Confucius on September 23, 2017, 06:16:55 AM
Post by: Lxxx on September 23, 2017, 02:27:05 PM
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 23, 2017, 05:17:59 PM
not sure what to do this evening... Watch Dowell V Villa, or watch Mahrez and Gray destroy Liverpool.
Post by: BlueForYou on September 24, 2017, 08:23:09 PM
If Williams gets injured and with Keane and Jags out, straight in at the deep end for this lad - no problem
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 26, 2017, 01:26:33 AM
then i realised we're playing arsenal tonight :D
ill try and find a stream. if not on the efc website
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 26, 2017, 01:53:00 AM
cant even find the stream on everton tv on everton.com ;/ wtf
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 26, 2017, 01:54:47 AM
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/09/25/evertonlive-u23s-face-arsenal
Post by: bluenuck on September 26, 2017, 02:05:42 AM
This year so far -
3 goals in 6 games in the league
4 goals in 9 games in all competitions
I don;t know how many were starts or subs, sorry.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/henry-onyekuru/leistungsdaten/spieler/380415
4 started, 3 subbed for league.
Was subbed in for CL game at 60 minutes.
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 26, 2017, 02:14:04 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKlk1udXUAEKdAX.jpg)No Kenny there. Assume he’ll play (hopefully start) on Thursday.
cant even find the stream on everton tv on everton.com ;/ wtf
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 26, 2017, 02:26:34 AM
20:25 Almost A Second! evertonfc.com
Good play from Henen and Jones down the right sees the latter flash the ball across the six yard box. Sambou lunges but can't quite get a touch to steer it home.
20:23 GOAL! evertonfc.com
The two subs combine to haul Everton level! Sambou plays in Donkor and the German calmly slots past Huddart!
Post by: brap2 on September 26, 2017, 02:41:14 AM
going the next U23 game at goodison I reckon.
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 26, 2017, 02:51:40 AM
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 26, 2017, 02:53:05 AM
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 26, 2017, 03:10:29 AM
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on September 26, 2017, 03:23:35 AM
Came back from 0-1 down at Half Time too
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 26, 2017, 03:25:13 AM
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 26, 2017, 03:51:46 AM
Post by: brap2 on September 26, 2017, 03:54:05 AM
https://twitter.com/HenenDavid/status/912417331661479937
Look at Unsie's little college of knowledge there. Going to win the league again these lads.
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on September 26, 2017, 04:26:54 AM
Shame as was getting close to first team
Post by: Confucius on September 26, 2017, 04:27:33 AM
Look at Unsie's little college of knowledge there. Going to win the league again these lads.
College of Knowledge
I like that.
Post by: Shogun on September 26, 2017, 04:36:38 AM
Unsworth deserves massive credit.
Post by: brap2 on September 26, 2017, 04:36:54 AM
Looks like Gethin Jones has broken his leg tonight. :(
Shame as was getting close to first team
Terrible news that he's one of the real old guard of this u23 side.
Post by: brap2 on September 26, 2017, 04:37:46 AM
Best players promoted to the first team and still pulling off results like this.
Unsworth deserves massive credit.
Got to be one of the biggest budgets in PL2 at his disposal.
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 26, 2017, 04:40:36 AM
Looks like Gethin Jones has broken his leg tonight. :(Was he?
Shame as was getting close to first team
What you heard there?
From the outside he looked like he was about fifth to sixth choice
Horrible for the lad, hasn't he had a bad injury before??
Post by: Shogun on September 26, 2017, 04:51:46 AM
Got to be one of the biggest budgets in PL2 at his disposal.
Koeman has showed throwing money at replacements is harder than it looks.
Post by: pjk on September 26, 2017, 05:12:22 AM
http://uk.soccerway.com/teams/england/everton-u23/37158/
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on September 26, 2017, 05:15:04 AM
Post by: brap2 on September 26, 2017, 05:42:38 AM
Second in the league after that bad start. 4 wins in a row. Not bad. :)
http://uk.soccerway.com/teams/england/everton-u23/37158/
Have they got Baningime's age down as 29 there
Post by: pjk on September 26, 2017, 06:16:58 AM
Have they got Baningime's age down as 29 there
Yeah, they have. Lazy journalism. ;)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on September 26, 2017, 12:42:48 PM
Was he?
What you heard there?
From the outside he looked like he was about fifth to sixth choice
Horrible for the lad, hasn't he had a bad injury before??
Can't remember where I read about his 1st team prospects Jim but it was seemingly close.
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 26, 2017, 05:50:22 PM
My own impression of him was that he is going to play for Wales, but never be good enough for us. I reckon he will have a solid career but his peak level would be similar to Shane Duffy, which is not a bad thing, jsut not top third of the Premier League quality.
Post by: Hawkandro on September 26, 2017, 06:28:24 PM
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-defender-gethin-jones-escapes-13675141
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on September 26, 2017, 07:18:37 PM
Good news for Jones...
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-defender-gethin-jones-escapes-13675141
Good news in a bad news roundabout way....
Post by: Eddiesheeds on September 26, 2017, 08:47:41 PM
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 27, 2017, 12:27:29 AM
I guess if the match isnt live on Everton TV, they upload the highlights the next day :D
some terrible goal keeping in that, the under 23s look so happy :D
Post by: kramer0 on September 27, 2017, 12:45:55 AM
Post by: brap2 on September 27, 2017, 01:23:31 AM
Great goal from Antony Evans. Super lanky but super skilled.
Have you read much about biningime or adeniran? Like the look of what I've seen of both in the glimpses of what I've seen.
Post by: kramer0 on September 27, 2017, 02:05:21 AM
Have you read much about biningime or adeniran? Like the look of what I've seen of both in the glimpses of what I've seen.
Unsworth seems to really like Baningime. He played a big role last season with Joe Williams out and Davies moving up to the first team. He's a bit small but he's quick and does a lot of good defensive work. Fulham supporters thought highly of Adeniran and were disappointed to see him go but I don't much about him since he's so new.
The Grand Old Team "Everton Youth Teams Thread" is where I get most of my info about these players, although I haven't been keeping up lately. A few of the posters on there go to the U23 games regularly and have a pretty good idea of how highly rated the players are. It's probably the only thread on that site worth reading.
Post by: Hawkandro on September 27, 2017, 06:25:48 PM
The Grand Old Team "Everton Youth Teams Thread" is where I get most of my info about these players, although I haven't been keeping up lately.
Sort it out, Kramer, FFS...
Post by: Faceatthefence on October 01, 2017, 12:16:54 AM
Post by: starblood on October 01, 2017, 07:55:11 AM
Great shame for Jones :(Shane Duffy was good enough to be given a decent chance (long term) in the first team.
My own impression of him was that he is going to play for Wales, but never be good enough for us. I reckon he will have a solid career but his peak level would be similar to Shane Duffy, which is not a bad thing, jsut not top third of the Premier League quality.
He played exceedingly well when called upon during an injury crisis. Only for Moyes to drop him immediately when more senior players were available.
I'm a David Moyes fan, but not in this instance.
Post by: Rodenplav64 on October 01, 2017, 03:31:14 PM
Shane Duffy was good enough to be given a decent chance (long term) in the first team.
He played exceedingly well when called upon during an injury crisis. Only for Moyes to drop him immediately when more senior players were available.
I'm a David Moyes fan, but not in this instance.
Moyes always went for experience because he couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag .
Post by: Lxxx on October 01, 2017, 04:29:35 PM
Moyes always went for experience because he couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag .
Not sure I totally agree with that. He wasn't a one season wonder with us you know.
Post by: Rodenplav64 on October 01, 2017, 05:57:59 PM
Not sure I totally agree with that. He wasn't a one season wonder with us you know.
I agree but he never looked likely to progress us ( finances a reason ) and we always seemed to run through beaten horses to finish 7th or 8th . Thats fine if thats what is acceptable given the lack of investment he faced . He did however prefer ( a bit like Ronald ) square pegging a seasoned pro rather than giving youngsters a chance unless injuries meant he had no choice . I would accept that had he had money he may have been able to develop youngsters over a longer period .
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 01, 2017, 06:23:05 PM
Everton U18s held by Manchester United in game stifled by poor finishing
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-u18s-held-manchester-united-13697628
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 03, 2017, 12:42:10 AM
Even the under 18 right back looks better than Martina.
Post by: Makis on October 03, 2017, 01:42:51 PM
Post by: Toddacelli on October 03, 2017, 01:54:57 PM
Even the under 18 right back looks better than Martina.
Very good attacking. Some nice interplay in the run up to his assist, some attacking intent and putting the ball into the box and before that - an amazing crossfield ball from right back to left wing that was close to perfect.
But he did stop tracking his runner for the goal though. He gave up on the run but if he'd stayed with his man he would have at least been in a position to challenge him and maybe stop the goal, giving us a win instead of a draw.
If that sounds harsh - I don't mean to be. It's only U18's, not the end of the world and I'm sure he'll learn from it. It is nice seeing the youngsters do well. Reckon the U23's would beat the senior side at the mo (even though it's half made up of U23's).
Post by: Hawkandro on October 03, 2017, 02:27:31 PM
Post by: TheRam on October 03, 2017, 02:35:34 PM
He's the next one to break through.
Post by: BlueForYou on October 03, 2017, 02:36:45 PM
Post by: Lxxx on October 03, 2017, 03:39:43 PM
I'm sure Martina would look decent against U18 opposition.
He should do. He'd be old enough to be their dad in some areas of Liverpool.
Post by: Django on October 03, 2017, 04:41:49 PM
It's a rarity that you see a breakthrough like Davies though isn't it.
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on October 03, 2017, 05:35:16 PM
(One for the oldschoolers)
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 10, 2017, 11:01:22 PM
https://twitter.com/England/status/917763012089573381
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 10, 2017, 11:06:47 PM
Post by: Lxxx on October 10, 2017, 11:14:26 PM
the spine of the under 21 team is ours :d
https://twitter.com/England/status/917763012089573381
Good to see our lads getting selected in front of Solanke and Alexander-Arnold.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 10, 2017, 11:17:07 PM
Good to see our lads getting selected in front of Solanke and Alexander-Arnold.
lots of dodgy youtube links, no legit links :(
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 10, 2017, 11:20:48 PM
http://www.vipbox.nu/football/513040/1/andorra-u21-vs-england-u21-live-stream-online.html
but not streaming anything, says its waiting. but the match started 20 mins ago :(
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 10, 2017, 11:34:44 PM
Good to see our lads getting selected in front of Solanke and Alexander-Arnold.It's cos they are playing Andorra
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 10, 2017, 11:45:38 PM
It's cos they are playing Andorra
its a conspiracy! most amount of Everton players in an England team since the under 20 world cup, and its not even fucking on anywhere..
I think its on bet365. but they dont seem to remember who i am, and want me to create a new account and deposit 5£
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 11, 2017, 01:17:47 AM
Vlasic scored for Croatia last night :D
Post by: Martip on October 11, 2017, 01:36:29 AM
Post by: Lxxx on October 11, 2017, 02:31:31 AM
It's cos they are playing Andorra
Didn’t even clock the opposition
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 11, 2017, 02:35:39 AM
Post by: Toddacelli on October 12, 2017, 01:31:10 PM
"Head like a rocket, stuck his finger in the socket, punk mother fucker called Baningime"
(One for the oldschoolers)
Yeah that Kid can Play :)
Post by: Shogun on October 14, 2017, 01:32:20 AM
Post by: Shogun on October 14, 2017, 01:39:21 AM
2-0! Garbutt smashes in a free kick
Live on City's Facebook
Post by: Simon Paul on October 14, 2017, 01:39:41 AM
Jose Baxter started tonight
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/26BGqofNXjxluwX0k/giphy.gif)
Post by: Eddiesheeds on October 14, 2017, 01:41:40 AM
Post by: Bally on October 14, 2017, 01:45:26 AM
Post by: Shogun on October 14, 2017, 01:46:59 AM
Where's Everyone watching this
Post by: Shogun on October 14, 2017, 01:47:27 AM
Post by: Bally on October 14, 2017, 01:57:02 AM
TA
Post by: Shogun on October 14, 2017, 02:19:47 AM
Might just ditch the first team
Post by: Bally on October 14, 2017, 02:27:48 AM
Post by: TheRam on October 14, 2017, 02:31:23 AM
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 14, 2017, 02:36:20 AM
Post by: Bluedylan on October 14, 2017, 02:37:30 AM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 14, 2017, 02:45:37 AM
Please let's appoint a manager who has a strong record developing young players. We've got a right crop, if we can harness and develop them properly.
David unsworth?
Post by: Major Clanger on October 14, 2017, 03:00:02 AM
David unsworth?
And let's lure Arteta back as assistant :)
Post by: Lxxx on October 14, 2017, 05:42:18 AM
The future is bright, shame the present is pretty dull.
Post by: hannu on October 14, 2017, 07:24:46 AM
Their last game of the season is against Liverpool. If they can or already have won the league by then we should totally have that game at Goodison
why we would only bottle it
didnt realise it was from january
Post by: Confucius on October 14, 2017, 07:36:18 AM
Post by: Shogun on October 14, 2017, 07:52:24 AM
We do have one of the highest budgets for the u23. Even more than City's.
Great to know Unsworth can manage and identify the right players too!
Post by: Everton Mint on October 14, 2017, 09:45:41 PM
Post by: Lxxx on October 14, 2017, 11:34:20 PM
U18's won 5-1 @ Sunderland today.
The U-18’s could probably beat Sunderland’s first team 5-1.
Post by: bigmanbob on October 15, 2017, 04:16:26 AM
The U-18’s could probably beat Sunderland’s first team 5-1.They could probably beat our first team 5-1
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 17, 2017, 05:00:46 PM
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 18, 2017, 04:57:56 AM
Post by: Shogun on October 18, 2017, 05:05:34 AM
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 18, 2017, 05:11:39 AM
Made a lot of changes and were 1-0 at HT so hardly battered.Going off the match report they were
Yes lots of changes, two lads from u18s playing cb which is good to hear
Post by: TheRam on October 18, 2017, 05:13:22 AM
Post by: bigmanbob on October 18, 2017, 02:53:01 PM
Post by: Macca77 on October 18, 2017, 02:55:28 PM
Post by: Lxxx on October 18, 2017, 03:37:00 PM
It seemed a strange approach to the game to me, they played not only two under 18's lads (who to be fair sound like they had a good game) but they also gave a few of the squad players a game. The echo seemed to think this is because they have a big game on Friday. Would getting them used to playing two games in a week not be good prep for playing for the first team? Jesus my under 15 team played four games in a week at the end of least season to get all their games in
Unsworth and his team have a pretty good record so far so I'll trust their judgement on how they best utilise the lads in the setup.
Post by: bigmanbob on October 18, 2017, 04:10:48 PM
Unsworth and his team have a pretty good record so far so I'll trust their judgement on how they best utilise the lads in the setup.Yes totally agree, just seemed a bit strange :)
Post by: brap2 on October 18, 2017, 06:09:20 PM
Yes totally agree, just seemed a bit strange :)
Keeping up the long everton tradition of being shite in Europe.
Post by: Hawkandro on October 18, 2017, 06:46:57 PM
Post by: gizzblue on October 18, 2017, 08:16:11 PM
Unsworth out.Long as it's for interim first team job...I concur.
Post by: Macca77 on October 19, 2017, 11:06:32 PM
https://twitter.com/EvertonAcademy/status/921041530894381058
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 04:27:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DdpX7660rA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DdpX7660rA)
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 08:10:00 PM
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 08:18:46 PM
https://t.co/YjJJ3aWoit (https://t.co/YjJJ3aWoit)
Jose Baxter playing!
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on October 20, 2017, 11:04:53 PM
Post by: Everton Mint on October 21, 2017, 07:17:41 PM
The U-18’s could probably beat Sunderland’s first team 5-1.
Ok so they beat previously unbeaten, top of the league, Man City 5-3 today.
Post by: BlueForYou on October 21, 2017, 07:23:06 PM
Klaassen, on the other hand, would look class - and so he should!
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 22, 2017, 06:38:00 PM
How old is Sandro - 22? Could do with watching him play for the U23's to see if he would stand out - not so sure that he would
Klaassen, on the other hand, would look class - and so he should!
i said this around 2 weeks ago.. i just got laughed by bluebeagle or blue someone.. but thats what needs to happen.. the benefits for them are so much better than just sitting on the bench..
anyway
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 24, 2017, 03:56:33 PM
Post by: boothill on October 24, 2017, 04:09:35 PM
Post by: Trublue on October 24, 2017, 04:19:08 PM
i said this around 2 weeks ago.. i just got laughed by bluebeagle or blue someone.. but thats what needs to happen.. the benefits for them are so much better than just sitting on the bench..
anyway
I think putting Sandro, in the Under 23's would do him the world of good. Get him playing 90 minutes so will get him fitter. Scoring goals and build his confidence. Also playing football with guys of the same age group may help him enjoy his football for a while and get a smile back on his face.
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on October 24, 2017, 04:39:11 PM
Post by: BlueForYou on October 24, 2017, 04:42:28 PM
Post by: pjk on October 24, 2017, 04:51:51 PM
I’m all for Sandro in the U23s. Did Niasse the world of good.
The good thing with Unsworth taking the reins for the first team is; he's got his finger on the pulse for the U23s and should be able to make a well-informed decision were Sandro is concerned. Koeman getting sacked could be a blessing in disguise were Sandro and Everton are concerned. Over to you Unsy mate. It's all yours. :)
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 24, 2017, 06:00:04 PM
Post by: Hawkandro on October 24, 2017, 06:39:52 PM
Post by: bigmanbob on October 24, 2017, 07:05:22 PM
Post by: Lxxx on October 24, 2017, 08:50:11 PM
So, do we reckon Unsworth will give any of the U23s a go in the first team?
We don't need them. We have more than enough youth in the first team setup at the minute, he just needs to concentrate on getting the first team squad back up to the levels required instead of throwing more kids into a tough situation.
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 24, 2017, 08:52:04 PM
So, do we reckon Unsworth will give any of the U23s a go in the first team?
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/922822091312975872
Post by: Lazarou on October 24, 2017, 08:55:36 PM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/922822091312975872
Shame Cuco is still hanging around like a bad smell. Was hoping he would have been in Ronald's car boot yesterday and onto the next stepping stone to Barca.
Post by: Hawkandro on October 24, 2017, 09:11:15 PM
Post by: bigmanbob on October 24, 2017, 10:10:14 PM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 25, 2017, 01:24:34 AM
We don't need them. We have more than enough youth in the first team setup at the minute, he just needs to concentrate on getting the first team squad back up to the levels required instead of throwing more kids into a tough situation.
Not sure. Think I'd like to see someone else have a go at left back (not suggesting we have that player in the u23s as I wouldn't know)
Post by: Lxxx on October 25, 2017, 03:07:55 AM
Not sure. Think I'd like to see someone else have a go at left back (not suggesting we have that player in the u23s as I wouldn't know)
We do but he’s not registered to play.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 02, 2017, 07:48:49 PM
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 11, 2017, 06:27:55 PM
Post by: mikey_blue on November 11, 2017, 08:35:59 PM
Loved that second goal.
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 11, 2017, 09:37:08 PM
Post by: Major Clanger on November 11, 2017, 09:40:11 PM
Two things. 1. Hornby knows where the net is, must have a good record at this level. 2. The intro of those vids makes me think the highlight soundtrack is teenage dirtbag.
Similar, but it's definitely a different song. The guitarist is certainly a fan of The Edge.
Post by: Goaljira on November 11, 2017, 10:05:59 PM
Two things. 1. Hornby knows where the net is, must have a good record at this level. 2. The intro of those vids makes me think the highlight soundtrack is teenage dirtbag.
Hadnt watched it with sound, so had to go back and rewatch and youre right!
Post by: brap2 on November 11, 2017, 10:14:34 PM
Post by: TheRam on November 11, 2017, 11:00:55 PM
Hornby scores every week.
Been training with the first team.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 11, 2017, 11:01:19 PM
Two things. 1. Hornby knows where the net is, must have a good record at this level. 2. The intro of those vids makes me think the highlight soundtrack is teenage dirtbag.
the music in the videos is awesome.
Post by: Silas on November 11, 2017, 11:03:36 PM
Hornby scores every week.
Be a result of his train-ing.
Post by: Ross on November 11, 2017, 11:04:56 PM
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 12, 2017, 12:01:06 AM
Sounds like he’s on the right track.
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/b161ae34807aa6170707373fdb8584c4/tenor.gif?itemid=7862638)
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on November 12, 2017, 07:30:30 AM
Hornby scores every week.
It’s hard to gauge his ability. Tends to go steaming into tackles. He’s a bit off the rails if you ask me.
Post by: brap2 on November 12, 2017, 10:45:05 AM
Been training with the first team.
Really? Mans young as fuck.
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 12, 2017, 07:45:40 PM
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 12, 2017, 08:31:17 PM
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on November 19, 2017, 01:43:55 AM
Post by: Trowel on November 19, 2017, 02:09:06 AM
This feels familiar.
Post by: TheRam on November 19, 2017, 02:15:07 AM
Another reason unsworth can't continue being our manager
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on November 19, 2017, 02:37:06 AM
Post by: therealdunc on November 20, 2017, 06:09:48 AM
Post by: Coyb12 on November 20, 2017, 06:22:42 AM
Francis JeffersHe had £50 on the result.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 23, 2017, 10:31:11 PM
Post by: Goaljira on November 28, 2017, 02:30:17 AM
Bah, i got Anthony Evans and Antonee Robinson mixed up. I thought we might have a left back.
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on November 28, 2017, 03:50:16 AM
Post by: GLewis on November 30, 2017, 10:19:53 PM
http://www.alfredopedulla.com/dalla-germania-gli-occhi-delleverton-kiprit-dellhertha/
Post by: Outworlder47 on November 30, 2017, 11:56:48 PM
Linked with a striker from Hertha...
http://www.alfredopedulla.com/dalla-germania-gli-occhi-delleverton-kiprit-dellhertha/
Muhammed Kiprit, 9 goals/4 assists in 12 games at the German equivalent of the U23s. Turkish U19 international, born in Berlin. 18 years old, and as of two weeks ago had yet to sign personal terms on a senior contract.
Post by: kramer0 on November 30, 2017, 11:59:08 PM
Phase 1: Sign all of the U23 strikers in Europe.
Phase 2: Wait for the next great forward to emerge.
Phase 3: Win or profit.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on December 01, 2017, 12:24:10 AM
Strategy:
Phase 1: Sign all of the U23 strikers in Europe.
Phase 2: Wait for the next great forward to emerge.
Phase 3: Win or profit.
(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/63046255/sign-all-the-strikers.jpg)
back on topic
Post by: Bob Sacamano on December 01, 2017, 12:32:31 AM
Strategy:
Phase 1: Sign all of the U23 strikers in Europe.
Phase 2: Wait for the next great forward to emerge.
Phase 3: Win or profit.
That you, Arsene?
Post by: Lxxx on December 01, 2017, 05:15:55 PM
That you, Arsene?
He's not even that forward thinking these days. Just pays big money for players and lets them run their contracts down now.
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on December 02, 2017, 04:34:36 AM
Post by: Lxxx on December 05, 2017, 09:20:45 PM
www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5147331/Mbappe-overtakes-Alli-Europes-valuable-youngster.html
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 06, 2017, 03:59:39 AM
Post by: mikey_blue on December 06, 2017, 04:04:03 AM
Lad called Inar Iversen on the bench tonight. Not heard of him or ever seen him in any squad. Anyone know who he is?
Norwegian kid. We brought him in on trial a while ago. Must of extended it. Think he’s a CM.
That’s all I’ve got.
Post by: Goaljira on December 06, 2017, 04:15:51 AM
Lad called Inar Iversen on the bench tonight. Not heard of him or ever seen him in any squad. Anyone know who he is?
He's refined, sublime, he makes you feel fine
Though very much maligned and misunderstood
But if you know 'Inar he's a real crowd pleaser
He's ever so good, is Inar Iversen.
Post by: Toddacelli on December 06, 2017, 04:26:43 AM
He's refined, sublime, he makes you feel fineLet's hope he makes the first team - if only for this on the terraces. If only
Though very much maligned and misunderstood
But if you know 'Inar he's a real crowd pleaser
He's ever so good, is Inar Iversen.
Post by: bigmanbob on December 06, 2017, 04:29:41 AM
He's refined, sublime, he makes you feel fineThat sir, is a thing of beauty
Though very much maligned and misunderstood
But if you know 'Inar he's a real crowd pleaser
He's ever so good, is Inar Iversen.
Post by: Django on December 10, 2017, 11:51:44 PM
Post by: TheRam on December 11, 2017, 12:11:08 AM
McCarthy and Bolasie playing for the U-23s tomorrow
Boss.
About bolasie that is. McCarthy can fuck off
Post by: pjk on December 11, 2017, 12:12:12 AM
Boss.
About bolasie that is. McCarthy can fuck off
"Calm down"!
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 11, 2017, 07:03:48 PM
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 11, 2017, 07:49:25 PM
Post by: GLewis on December 11, 2017, 08:02:15 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/EvertonAcademy/status/940217502780583936
Decent finish but you could squeeze Russia through the two CBs.
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 11, 2017, 08:13:45 PM
Winning 0-1 half time.Thought he showed some good glimpses the other night, he's only 17 aint he?
https://mobile.twitter.com/EvertonAcademy/status/940217502780583936
Decent finish but you could squeeze Russia through the two CBs.
Post by: Rhys on December 11, 2017, 08:15:51 PM
Thought he showed some good glimpses the other night, he's only 17 aint he?
18 a couple of months ago
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 11, 2017, 08:19:06 PM
18 a couple of months agoLooked a decent player, hope he progresses
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on December 11, 2017, 08:33:01 PM
Post by: pjk on December 11, 2017, 08:35:06 PM
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 11, 2017, 09:16:38 PM
Bolaisie got 30mins
Post by: plumber on December 11, 2017, 09:30:34 PM
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 11, 2017, 11:48:37 PM
Lost 2 1 despite being 1 up with 10 to go
Bolaisie got 30mins
Everton that.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on December 12, 2017, 06:59:02 PM
Everton that.
not really, our under 23 team have scored lots and lots of late goals to win games and turn the matches around.
Post by: TheRam on December 13, 2017, 12:32:26 AM
Is that sack of shite injured again?
Post by: sam of the south on December 13, 2017, 12:52:06 AM
Winning 0-1 half time.
https://mobile.twitter.com/EvertonAcademy/status/940217502780583936
Decent finish but you could squeeze Russia through the two CBs.
He is such a dreamboat 😍
Post by: brap2 on December 13, 2017, 01:15:27 AM
He is such a dreamboat 😍
Unit on the sly isn’t he, massive
Post by: Bob Sacamano on December 13, 2017, 01:24:32 AM
Don't recall McCarthy playing.
Is that sack of shite injured again?
Is there a more pointless player in the payroll?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on December 13, 2017, 01:33:29 AM
Is there a more pointless player in the payroll?
Jose Baxter?
Post by: gizzblue on December 13, 2017, 01:35:35 AM
Is there a more pointless player in the payroll?Stek ?.
Post by: sam of the south on December 13, 2017, 01:37:11 AM
Unit on the sly isn’t he, massive
So.
I've.
Heard.
:blush:
Post by: Goaljira on December 13, 2017, 01:48:28 AM
Stek ?.
Forgot he even existed. Must've subconciously assumed he left with Koeman.
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on December 16, 2017, 04:23:06 AM
and apparently some one called McCarthy played 45 Min
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 17, 2017, 04:12:32 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRM0lkLWAAAiFaX.jpg:large)
Post by: sam of the south on December 17, 2017, 04:23:01 AM
:love: :love: :love:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRM0lkLWAAAiFaX.jpg:large)
I love Jonjoe's Scal Swag 💛
Post by: Jamokachi on December 17, 2017, 05:36:17 AM
Post by: Bally on December 17, 2017, 06:33:09 AM
:love: :love: :love:Why is mason Holgate doing an impression of Ashley Cole
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRM0lkLWAAAiFaX.jpg:large)
Post by: brap2 on December 17, 2017, 08:42:20 AM
Lookman
Davies
Kenny
DCL
Mase
Post by: Bally on December 17, 2017, 11:44:00 AM
:love: :love: :love:Is it just me or do they all look photoshopped into that picture
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRM0lkLWAAAiFaX.jpg:large)
Post by: Escla on December 17, 2017, 11:49:48 AM
Is it just me or do they all look photoshopped into that picture
When I look at that photo I think "class of 92" could be...could be...
(Bally-a fellow insomniac)
Post by: van der Meyde on December 17, 2017, 02:32:37 PM
Web ranking :Would swap Davies and Lookman, but otherwise I make you spot on.
Lookman
Davies
Kenny
DCL
Mase
Poor efforts from Dom and Mase.
Post by: TheRam on December 17, 2017, 03:48:07 PM
Web ranking :
Lookman
Davies
Kenny
DCL
Mase
Agreed.
Is that a pair of Stan Smiths Davies is rocking?
Post by: brap2 on December 17, 2017, 05:03:32 PM
Would swap Davies and Lookman, but otherwise I make you spot on.
Poor efforts from Dom and Mase.
I’m a sucker for a gum sole but I can see your point
Post by: van der Meyde on December 17, 2017, 05:07:08 PM
I’m a sucker for a gum sole but I can see your pointOh aye, same.
I'd always go for a plain pair of white trabs over a plain pair of black though.
Post by: van der Meyde on December 17, 2017, 05:08:31 PM
Agreed.Oh yes.
Is that a pair of Stan Smiths Davies is rocking?
Post by: gizzblue on December 17, 2017, 05:10:17 PM
Dom first, love a blue trab
Mase
Davies
Lookman
Kenny
Post by: howard1334 on December 17, 2017, 05:13:13 PM
:love: :love: :love:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRM0lkLWAAAiFaX.jpg:large)
What is this for haha?
Also, I know he is not English and never played for the U23s, but if we are going by just age, where is Vlasic!
Post by: TheRam on December 17, 2017, 05:40:00 PM
What is this for haha?
Also, I know he is not English and never played for the U23s, but if we are going by just age, where is Vlasic!
This was done a while ago I think so he probably wasn't here.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on December 17, 2017, 06:30:28 PM
Web ranking :
Lookman
Davies
Kenny
DCL
Mase
thats probably how i would've rated them start of the season. now it would be
Kenny.
Holgate.
DCL
Davies
Lookman.
Vlasic would slot in behind Kenny, if not 1st place.
Post by: sam of the south on December 17, 2017, 06:31:36 PM
Why is mason Holgate doing an impression of Ashley Cole
You know what, I reckon that might be why they're cracking up 😃
Top marks, Mase, if so 👌🏼
Post by: Goaljira on December 17, 2017, 06:41:39 PM
Agreed.And they look like proper ones too, not the new ones that have Stan Smith written on them. Another case of 'those who know, understand. Those that don't, don't matter'.
Is that a pair of Stan Smiths Davies is rocking?
Post by: BlueForYou on December 17, 2017, 07:40:33 PM
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 17, 2017, 10:07:26 PM
Post by: BlueForYou on December 18, 2017, 12:01:05 AM
Post by: gizzblue on December 18, 2017, 01:40:51 AM
And Hi-Tec SquashFucking throwbacks. ..😅
I wear hitec (Made) magnum Amazon work boots...but havnt had their trainers etc since a pair of hitec equipe footy boots 20 years back.
Cant beat the old hi tec silver shadow
Post by: ally2 on December 18, 2017, 01:45:53 AM
Post by: mikey_blue on December 18, 2017, 02:23:25 AM
Cant beat the old hi tec silver shadow
No longer standard issue in the military. Trying to run cross country in those fuckers was torture.
Post by: Lxxx on January 02, 2018, 11:11:42 PM
Post by: kramer0 on January 03, 2018, 12:04:07 AM
Barnsley have apparently made a £1m offer to buy Joe Williams who is on loan there. Anyone know much about the lad?
He looks like a good Championship DM, with around 5 tackles/interceptions per 90. Doesn't contribute much in attack but 1 dribble and 1 key pass per 90 suggest that he can do a little something. Probably has a chance of being PL quality but I think his path to ever playing for Everton is pretty well blocked with all of the pure DMs we have, Baningime included. It probably makes sense for him to move on, especially at a club where he's already doing well.
I'd be bothered more by Liam Walsh leaving permanently (there were rumours that Bristol City wanted to sign him in December). A good passer who dictates tempo is exactly what we need in the middle. We'd be better off finding a loan destination where he'll actually play. Or giving him the odd game when Rooney is out if we reach safety early enough.
Post by: brap2 on January 03, 2018, 12:35:15 AM
He looks like a good Championship DM, with around 5 tackles/interceptions per 90. Doesn't contribute much in attack but 1 dribble and 1 key pass per 90 suggest that he can do a little something. Probably has a chance of being PL quality but I think his path to ever playing for Everton is pretty well blocked with all of the pure DMs we have, Baningime included. It probably makes sense for him to move on, especially at a club where he's already doing well.
I'd be bothered more by Liam Walsh leaving permanently (there were rumours that Bristol City wanted to sign him in December). A good passer who dictates tempo is exactly what we need in the middle. We'd be better off finding a loan destination where he'll actually play. Or giving him the odd game when Rooney is out if we reach safety early enough.
Seems to have quitened down a bit for Walsh. Didn’t blow the doors off it at Birmingham but not sure what shape they were in at that time...Redknapp was it?
Hasn’t been near the team when obviously a few others have even in the dead rubber, although he may have been on loan or injured? Not sure if he was recalled or injured.
Post by: kramer0 on January 03, 2018, 12:37:02 AM
Seems to have quitened down a bit for Walsh. Didn’t blow the doors off it at Birmingham but not sure what shape they were in at that time...Redknapp was it?
Hasn’t been near the team when obviously a few others have even in the dead rubber, although he may have been on loan or injured? Not sure if he was recalled or injured.
Birmingham are a mess and wanted experienced players so no surprise that he didn't play.
And he couldn't play in the dead rubber. Loan recalls can only go through during transfer windows now. The new loan rules do allow on-loan players to play for the parent club's U23s, though, which is why he came back earlier.
Post by: Lxxx on January 06, 2018, 12:12:08 AM
He looks like a good Championship DM, with around 5 tackles/interceptions per 90. Doesn't contribute much in attack but 1 dribble and 1 key pass per 90 suggest that he can do a little something. Probably has a chance of being PL quality but I think his path to ever playing for Everton is pretty well blocked with all of the pure DMs we have, Baningime included. It probably makes sense for him to move on, especially at a club where he's already doing well.
I'd be bothered more by Liam Walsh leaving permanently (there were rumours that Bristol City wanted to sign him in December). A good passer who dictates tempo is exactly what we need in the middle. We'd be better off finding a loan destination where he'll actually play. Or giving him the odd game when Rooney is out if we reach safety early enough.
Gone today.
Post by: Shogun on January 06, 2018, 01:30:02 AM
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 11, 2018, 08:06:15 PM
Post by: brap2 on January 11, 2018, 09:41:04 PM
Charsley gone to Bolton on loan for the rest of season....... Good move for the lad
Nice, think he quite often gets overlooked with the other talents we have but I think he’s a decent player. I back him to do well.
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 11, 2018, 09:41:53 PM
Nice, think he quite often gets overlooked with the other talents we have but I think he’s a decent player. I back him to do well.Seems to be decent in various positions without really nailing down a position
Hope this goes well
Post by: Lxxx on January 11, 2018, 11:47:21 PM
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 12, 2018, 12:19:25 AM
I see Brendon Galloway is possibly coming back from Sunderland. Makes sense to not be there but not sure what good he'll be here.Our u23s are struggling
Post by: Shogun on January 12, 2018, 12:20:38 AM
Charsley gone to Bolton on loan for the rest of season....... Good move for the lad
They seem to have done a really good job with Robinson
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 12, 2018, 12:24:31 AM
They seem to have done a really good job with RobinsonYeah, could be the start of a decent link up couldn't it
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on January 15, 2018, 09:14:12 PM
Post by: brap2 on January 15, 2018, 09:15:39 PM
Post by: kramer0 on January 15, 2018, 10:09:23 PM
I like Dowell but he doesn't stand a chance here.
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 16, 2018, 11:44:06 PM
Scored 2 lovely goals against Spurs for the U23s the other day.
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/953275790506029058
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on January 17, 2018, 04:33:57 AM
Anyone know much about Anthony Evans?
Im guessing hes welsh.
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 17, 2018, 04:39:25 AM
Im guessing hes welsh.If kirkby has been moved over the border you'd be correct
Think he went out on loan last year, is well thought of from what I've read (bits and bobs mind you) let's hope he kicks on
Post by: TheRam on January 17, 2018, 05:09:41 AM
Anyone know much about Anthony Evans?
Scored 2 lovely goals against Spurs for the U23s the other day.
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/953275790506029058
Good, technical player. Don't think he'll ever make it here, but can see him carving a decent enough career for himself.
Post by: brap2 on January 17, 2018, 05:55:31 AM
Could do with knowing if we have any ballers coming through and at what age.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 24, 2018, 12:35:53 AM
Post by: blueToffee on January 24, 2018, 12:45:53 AM
Colemams playing tonight
Just saw that, good luck to him.
Post by: Lincs Toffee on January 24, 2018, 01:11:36 AM
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 24, 2018, 01:13:48 AM
Post by: Lincs Toffee on January 24, 2018, 01:15:21 AM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 24, 2018, 01:29:40 AM
Garbutt looking better than Cuco already .
It's a bit of a different level isn't it
Post by: Escla on January 24, 2018, 01:30:05 AM
Post by: Lincs Toffee on January 24, 2018, 01:34:11 AM
1 up
Post by: Juanito on January 24, 2018, 01:41:41 AM
I must be watching a different game ? Absolute shite what I’m seeing, walking around (both sides) occasional ping upfield, Garbutt absolutely shite.
How can I watch?
Post by: Gash on January 24, 2018, 01:43:13 AM
How can I watch?
Just search Everton on Youtube.
Post by: Escla on January 24, 2018, 01:44:55 AM
How can I watch?
Just go to the O.S and click on the link.
Post by: School of Science on January 24, 2018, 01:56:53 AM
Post by: Lincs Toffee on January 24, 2018, 02:07:16 AM
Post by: Lincs Toffee on January 24, 2018, 02:17:40 AM
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on January 24, 2018, 02:36:35 AM
Even Özil gets panned in England and he's probably one of the five best creative players in the world.
I like Dowell but he doesn't stand a chance here.
correct that - this annoys me about Everton fans, how quickly we judge and turn against some players, deeming them shite after hardly any time
Sandro - 13 Games - 480 minutes - shite
Klaassen - 10 Games - 435 minutes - shite
Bolasie - 18 games - 1,300 minutes borderline shite
the list can go on, why cant we give any a fair crack let the settle and get used to the country and/or league. Tosun probably hasnt got long before he's deemed shite for all eternity
Post by: sam of the south on January 24, 2018, 03:36:40 AM
Comfortable 60 mins from Seamus, looked pretty good considering the amount of time out
Brilliant 👌🏼
How did Garbutt look?
Post by: Lxxx on January 24, 2018, 03:41:07 AM
Brilliant 👌🏼
How did Garbutt look?
Coiffured.
Post by: sam of the south on January 24, 2018, 03:51:29 AM
Coiffured.
I don't doubt that.
How about his defending, crossing, pace, and positional play?
Post by: kewns23 on January 24, 2018, 07:13:20 AM
I don't doubt that.
How about his defending, crossing, pace, and positional play?
I only seen first half and he looked good
Getting in good space and one or two decent balls a few wild ones.
It’s hard to tell as the opposition was poor however I thinks it’s worth giving him ago... ironically West Brom would of been better than the games coming up
Post by: mikey_blue on January 24, 2018, 05:09:00 PM
Post by: Macca77 on January 24, 2018, 05:23:43 PM
Post by: Escla on January 24, 2018, 05:28:35 PM
Anyone else wince when they first saw that, steady on Seamus lad.
Exactly, great that he is clearly not afraid to go in though.
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 24, 2018, 05:33:12 PM
Anyone else wince when they first saw that, steady on Seamus lad.Best thing that could have happened to him, an early tackle with no time to think
Some of our fans* would have fewmed** had he pulled out
*Mostly twitter bellends
** Twitter fume, it genuinely serves no puropse
Post by: Lincs Toffee on January 24, 2018, 06:05:48 PM
I don't doubt that.Pretty much as @kewns23 (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=530) says Sam really, personally he should be replacing Cuco, he took all the corners and never hit the first man, whipped some decent crosses in from open play that I'm sure Tosun or Walcott would latch on to, made runs and opened up space, ok I'm making him sound like a world beater, he isn't but he's better than what we have even if it was against shite opponents, he would give us far more balance and speed in attack down that side.
How about his defending, crossing, pace, and positional play?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on January 25, 2018, 05:13:18 AM
Post by: brap2 on January 25, 2018, 06:12:16 AM
Also really like worried and dreading it but yeah, a bit excited.
Post by: Lincs Toffee on January 25, 2018, 03:29:45 PM
Fuck it if garbutt is on the team sheet on Weds I will be a bit excited..I think it will certainly change the dynamics of the side, well if fucking should do!
Also really like worried and dreading it but yeah, a bit excited.
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 26, 2018, 05:18:30 PM
Post by: Shogun on January 26, 2018, 06:58:32 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5314289/Evertons-Fraser-Hornby-solution-Toffees.html
I thought he was well off the standard in the Europa League tie.
Broadhead looked a better player.
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on January 26, 2018, 07:50:00 PM
Nowhere near ready.
Post by: kramer0 on January 26, 2018, 09:40:26 PM
“Runs all day” isn't going to improve us at that position. Calvert-Lewin is the king of chasing lost causes.
What we really need is better service to the forwards from midfield and wide areas.
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 30, 2018, 12:39:06 AM
Post by: TheRam on January 30, 2018, 01:43:10 AM
Mathis has joined Northampton on loan and strong rumours that unsworth will be next Oxford manager
That would be boss.
Post by: School of Science on January 30, 2018, 02:11:20 AM
I thought he was well off the standard in the Europa League tie.
Broadhead looked a better player.
Thought that myself, looked more dangerous in his cameo role, more skillfuller, more pace and movement. Watched the U 23's the other night he looked good in that to and again very quick.
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 30, 2018, 03:37:01 AM
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on January 30, 2018, 06:39:07 PM
Hornby and Sambou both scoring in the 2-1 win against Chelsea tonight.
Nice little double act flourishing yet again.
Post by: sam of the south on January 30, 2018, 06:43:12 PM
Nice little double act flourishing yet again.
Aww, Vaughan & Vic :hug:
Post by: Macca77 on February 03, 2018, 03:57:55 AM
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 03, 2018, 03:59:53 AM
Unsworth off to OxfordGot 4s
Nice one
Post by: SANA_DR0 on February 03, 2018, 09:07:36 PM
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on February 05, 2018, 03:43:15 PM
Edit: I'm aware he's not one of ours anymore, just a funny vid.
Post by: bluestevie on February 06, 2018, 01:59:26 AM
Post by: Goaljira on February 06, 2018, 03:00:24 AM
Post by: brap2 on February 06, 2018, 04:56:14 AM
Post by: Gash on February 06, 2018, 05:01:44 AM
Funes mori getting 45 mins. Going off recent history he’s close to returning to action then.
Allardyce will say he's "a considerable way off" before starting him at the weekend.
Post by: TheRam on February 06, 2018, 05:03:33 AM
Be a laugh that.
Post by: brap2 on February 06, 2018, 05:06:59 AM
Get him in with mangala.
Be a laugh that.
Police Academy level stuff that
Post by: TheRam on February 06, 2018, 05:16:05 AM
Police Academy level stuff that
Haha.
I actually like Mori me. Maybe a bit blind to his faults though.
Out of the centre halves we have, I'd say he's probably one of the better ones.
Post by: Ravardo on February 06, 2018, 05:40:44 AM
Post by: brap2 on February 06, 2018, 05:59:22 AM
Haha.
I actually like Mori me. Maybe a bit blind to his faults though.
Out of the centre halves we have, I'd say he's probably one of the better ones.
Haha yeah he’s alright. Has some good qualities and does some stuff well. Wonder how his passing and moving through the lines compares to the others.
Would be an absolute caper that though.
Post by: Lincs Toffee on February 06, 2018, 02:52:02 PM
Post by: Macca77 on February 06, 2018, 02:54:31 PM
Post by: Rodenplav64 on February 06, 2018, 11:50:19 PM
Post by: Confucius on February 07, 2018, 12:14:52 AM
Post by: Lxxx on February 07, 2018, 12:17:35 AM
Post by: brap2 on February 07, 2018, 12:21:15 AM
I’d like to see us go three at the back before the end of the season with Williams, Mangala and Mori. Wouldn’t miss that for the world.
Big Sam would get hauled in for match fixing.
Post by: Goaljira on February 07, 2018, 02:19:21 AM
I’d like to see us go three at the back before the end of the season with Williams, Mangala and Mori. Wouldn’t miss that for the world.Home derby nailed on.
Post by: Bob Sacamano on February 07, 2018, 04:23:05 AM
Home derby nailed on.
We still have another derby to play?! 🤦♂️
Post by: Ravardo on February 07, 2018, 10:46:59 PM
Post by: gizzblue on February 07, 2018, 11:56:10 PM
Unsworth has knocked oxford backMight be needed here before the season is up .😅
Post by: Lincs Toffee on February 08, 2018, 12:12:23 AM
Might be needed here before the season is up .As soon as I heard this on the way home from work my first thought was ‘what does he know’
Post by: Alanvideo on February 08, 2018, 12:56:24 AM
Love Mori. Good player. better than what we have currently playing besides Holgate......................no he isn't . He's in the same category as Robles ,a walking disaster. Makes me nervous when his name is on the teamsheet.
Post by: Confucius on February 08, 2018, 01:00:27 AM
.....................no he isn't . He's in the same category as Robles ,a walking disaster. Makes me nervous when his name is on the teamsheet.
Having Jagielka, Williams, Keane, MArtina and Mangala fills you with so much confidence does it?
Post by: ajax_andy on February 08, 2018, 01:46:47 AM
Might be needed here before the season is up .😅
Thats exactly what my first thought was too 😂
Post by: Alanvideo on February 08, 2018, 01:50:43 AM
Having Jagielka, Williams, Keane, MArtina and Mangala fills you with so much confidence does it?............not exactly , but as bad as the above mentioned are ,bringing in a clown like Funes-Mori will just make matters worse.
Post by: Ridge on February 08, 2018, 03:31:50 AM
Post by: Alanvideo on February 08, 2018, 04:38:51 AM
As soon as I heard this on the way home from work my first thought was ‘what does he know’.............maybe Rhino didn't fancy moving to Oxford .He has a bit of form for not moving from the North ,didn't settle at West Ham , signed for Villa but said the commute was too long and never played. Got himself a move back to Everton.
Post by: Lxxx on February 08, 2018, 04:42:13 AM
.............maybe Rhino didn't fancy moving to Oxford .He has a bit of form for not moving from the North ,didn't settle at West Ham , signed for Villa but said the commute was too long and never played. Got himself a move back to Everton.
The Cotswolds aren’t really a shithole though.
Post by: brap2 on February 08, 2018, 04:22:16 PM
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on February 09, 2018, 01:35:53 AM
Post by: brap2 on February 09, 2018, 01:58:16 PM
Oxford are a well run club with a decent budget for that level, by all accounts. Would’ve been a great opportunity. I’m sure how much more he can learn managing kids who are eager to impress him. He needs to manage a dressing room of senior professionals and all the dynamics that are involved.
Very disappointed.
Although I did see a rumour on oxford twitter that said ledson can’t stand him, and handed a transfer request in when he heard Unsworth was wanted, so maybe their board have flapped it at that.
Post by: Ridge on February 09, 2018, 11:36:48 PM
Very disappointed.
Although I did see a rumour on oxford twitter that said ledson can’t stand him, and handed a transfer request in when he heard Unsworth was wanted, so maybe their board have flapped it at that.
I'd read the idea was that it might keep Ledson at Oxford, as he had or was going to hand in a transfer request. :snigger:
Post by: SANA_DR0 on February 10, 2018, 12:02:34 AM
Post by: School of Science on February 10, 2018, 11:25:18 PM
Post by: Everton Mint on February 11, 2018, 01:48:24 AM
On a good note our U18's stuffed Stevie me's Liverpool today 3-1 at Finch Farm. That puts us second in the league and as an added bonus that was Gerrards fourth defeat on the bounce ;DNow one point behind Man U with a game in hand... and play Utd next.
Post by: Everton Mint on February 11, 2018, 01:50:14 AM
https://twitter.com/EvertonNewsFeed/status/962303381380485120
Post by: Jamokachi on February 11, 2018, 05:08:20 AM
Post by: sam of the south on February 11, 2018, 05:12:18 AM
Nice goal by Tom Scully !
https://twitter.com/EvertonNewsFeed/status/962303381380485120
Great commentary from down a tunnel, that
Post by: sam of the south on February 11, 2018, 05:16:26 AM
t
Love Kenny's gnashers 😁
He's such a lad 👌🏼
Post by: Everton Mint on February 11, 2018, 05:04:26 PM
Nice goal by Tom Scully !
U18's player Tom Scully is the son of my work-mate and they are a great Evertonian family. They were absolutely buzzing that he scored and against the Reds who released him two years ago ! :snigger:
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 11, 2018, 05:24:40 PM
U18's player Tom Scully is the son of my work-mate and they are a great Evertonian family. They were absolutely buzzing that he scored and against the Reds who released him two years ago ! :snigger:He's highly rated on my version of fm
Post by: Everton Mint on February 11, 2018, 11:00:48 PM
He's highly rated on my version of fm
Hopefully rightly so, especially as its coming up to the time of the decision whether he gets a pro-contract. Headlines like today wont do him any harm !
(https://i.imgur.com/vxVCv9X.jpg?1)
Post by: Macca77 on February 12, 2018, 07:44:21 PM
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 12, 2018, 07:48:58 PM
Funes-Mori and Holgate both staring against Barnsley this afternoonHas Holgate been injured or is he dropped to the u23's?
Post by: Macca77 on February 12, 2018, 07:51:08 PM
Has Holgate been injured or is he dropped to the u23's?
Probably the latter, he hasn't featured much since the Derby game has he
Post by: SANA_DR0 on February 12, 2018, 08:12:45 PM
Probably the latter, he hasn't featured much since the Derby game has he
he got dropped after WBA, cos Sam thinks Rondon bossed him.
Holgate made some vital tackles and interceptions in that match, a lesser everton centre back would have been made to pay by Rondon.
Post by: Lxxx on February 12, 2018, 09:19:42 PM
he got dropped after WBA, cos Sam thinks Rondon bossed him.
Holgate made some vital tackles and interceptions in that match, a lesser everton centre back would have been made to pay by Rondon.
Well Rondon is twice the size of him so not surprising a young defender had a tough time against an experienced grock of a striker. He did miss a couple of sitters like but it's no reason to send the lad to play with the kids.
Post by: Lincs Toffee on February 12, 2018, 09:24:12 PM
Funes-Mori and Holgate both staring against Barnsley this afternoonIs this being shown anywhere mate, last one was on FB wasn't it?
Post by: kramer0 on February 12, 2018, 09:28:43 PM
It's irresponsible, both short-term and long-term, to give minutes to Williams instead of Holgate.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 12, 2018, 09:41:41 PM
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 12, 2018, 09:42:07 PM
I don't understand Allardyce's treatment of Holgate. It's an admittedly small sample size but he was our best defender during his run at CB and did nothing to warrant being dropped.
It's irresponsible, both short-term and long-term, to give minutes to Williams instead of Holgate.
He has to make sure that we are "mathmatically safe".......
Glad to hear rooney and Pickford come out in recent days and say they're aiming for 7th though.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 12, 2018, 09:58:17 PM
Post by: plumber on February 12, 2018, 10:14:22 PM
He has played 2 games in the prem under Koeman (both as RB), 2 under Unsworth and 7 under Allardyce.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 12, 2018, 10:18:42 PM
So now we are slagging off Big Fat Sam for freezing out poor little Holgate?
He has played 2 games in the prem under Koeman (both as RB), 2 under Unsworth and 7 under Allardyce.
They'll find fault with anything and everything. He's not been very good, granted none of our centre halves have but our manager is allowed to rate whoever he rates. It's not like holgate has done much to justify a place in the team
Post by: TheRam on February 12, 2018, 10:25:41 PM
So now we are slagging off Big Fat Sam for freezing out poor little Holgate?
He has played 2 games in the prem under Koeman (both as RB), 2 under Unsworth and 7 under Allardyce.
Yeah we are because he should at least be ahead of Ashley Williams in the pecking order.
He performed very well, yet hes now nowhere to be seen. Personally think it's a poor way to treat somebody who was performing to a good level.
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 12, 2018, 10:25:44 PM
They'll find fault with anything and everything.
hahhahahhhahahahaaha pot, kettle from the strangest moaner on the forum.
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on February 12, 2018, 10:30:44 PM
see the u18 won the derby against gerrards RS 3-1
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 12, 2018, 10:39:21 PM
what score did we win,
see the u18 won the derby against gerrards RS 3-1
1-nil.
And yes, I believe that Holgate has been the best of a sorry lot at CB, in addition to our youngest. That combo means he should be starting at least almost every week, getting used to playing his natural position at the Prem level.
Preferably not next to Ashley Williams.
Post by: Macca77 on February 12, 2018, 10:41:14 PM
So now we are slagging off Big Fat Sam for freezing out poor little Holgate?
He has played 2 games in the prem under Koeman (both as RB), 2 under Unsworth and 7 under Allardyce.
Not slagging Sam off at all, Holgate is a far better player than Ashley Williams though
Post by: SANA_DR0 on February 12, 2018, 11:14:08 PM
1-nil.
And yes, I believe that Holgate has been the best of a sorry lot at CB, in addition to our youngest. That combo means he should be starting at least almost every week, getting used to playing his natural position at the Prem level.
Preferably not next to Ashley Williams.
well you would think that, seeing as Sam Allardyce is saying this season is over and build towards next season, if he actually wants to do that, the youngsters need to fucking play. not players who the fans dont want to see, or who wont be playing week in week out next season. ( the Morgan Schneiderlins and Ashley Williams of this world)
Post by: Confucius on February 12, 2018, 11:17:24 PM
So now we are slagging off Big Fat Sam for freezing out poor little Holgate?
He has played 2 games in the prem under Koeman (both as RB), 2 under Unsworth and 7 under Allardyce.
But that is the point. Why drop a kid who has been your best Cb so far. Why destroy what should be our futures confidence all because your training analytics show that Williams headed the ball further than Holgate from a corner. Bunch of crap
Post by: Lxxx on February 12, 2018, 11:22:22 PM
well you would think that, seeing as Sam Allardyce is saying this season is over and build towards next season, if he actually wants to do that, the youngsters need to fucking play. not players who the fans dont want to see, or who wont be playing week in week out next season. ( the Morgan Schneiderlins and Ashley Williams of this world)
His whole approach seems very much geared towards making sure he gets his pay off in the summer by keeping us up. Zero risks and a £6m pension top up. Despite what he says his approach doesn't seem to be in accordance with him planning for the future, with his obsession with telling us we need to get to 40 points.
Post by: Goaljira on February 13, 2018, 12:06:03 AM
Clean sheet, Funes Mori and Holgate! Won me $275, as well.
You bet proper money on an Everton reserve game? Are you actually mad?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on February 13, 2018, 12:13:04 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 13, 2018, 12:17:46 AM
You bet proper money on an Everton reserve game? Are you actually mad?
For one, OF COURSE I am and I'm surprised you even have to ask.
For two, I clicked on the match in my Sportsbook, and they were paying out 2.75 to 1 odds (when the score was 0-0 in 35th minute), which seemed absurdly favourable to me. So I put down a hundred on us, what the fuck.
Is Barnsley's U23 side some kind of behemoth?
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 13, 2018, 12:19:27 AM
Good to get Funes Mori back. Whether he’s good enough is subject to debate but he’s a £20m defender in this market.
I will give Allardyce a tip of my cap if he's actually being strategic and plans to play Holgate and Funes Mori together the last 6-8 weeks of the season.
Would bet heavily against that, though.
Post by: Shogun on February 13, 2018, 12:25:53 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 13, 2018, 12:29:06 AM
We really do have the biggest selection of average CBs going.
optimist!
Post by: Goaljira on February 13, 2018, 01:09:57 AM
For one, OF COURSE I am and I'm surprised you even have to ask.
For two, I clicked on the match in my Sportsbook, and they were paying out 2.75 to 1 odds (when the score was 0-0 in 35th minute), which seemed absurdly favourable to me. So I put down a hundred on us, what the fuck.
Is Barnsley's U23 side some kind of behemoth?
No idea if they are or aren't, but the fact you didnt either and risked $100 on it shows how crazy it was!
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 13, 2018, 01:26:39 AM
No idea if they are or aren't, but the fact you didnt either and risked $100 on it shows how crazy it was!
I am mad as a hatter, and 2.75 to 1 on the backs of FuMo and Mason, my inner maniac won out.
Been on a bit of a gambling rush from Saturday's college basketball anyway, so ride the wave and whatnot.
Post by: brap2 on February 21, 2018, 04:21:11 PM
Post by: sam of the south on February 21, 2018, 04:37:06 PM
I don't understand Allardyce's treatment of Holgate. It's an admittedly small sample size but he was our best defender during his run at CB and did nothing to warrant being dropped.
It's irresponsible, both short-term and long-term, to give minutes to Williams instead of Holgate.
I don’t think it’s about form.
I think it’s the fall-out and subsequent odd radio silence from the MSM regarding the Firmino incedent.
Either the club don’t believe Holgate, or Holgate is pissed off at the club for not rallying behind him, or the club have bowed to pressure to ‘rest’ Holgate whilst it all dies down.
It can’t be because Rondon nearly scored a couple.
Post by: Lxxx on February 21, 2018, 08:14:45 PM
Dowell panned again
The second half of this season was always going to tell us where he was in his development. Tough for a kid to keep up decent form for a full season in their first year.
Post by: brap2 on February 23, 2018, 01:50:06 PM
The second half of this season was always going to tell us where he was in his development. Tough for a kid to keep up decent form for a full season in their first year.
Yeah, dips happen at that age (any age I suppose). He’d get fucking mullered if he was playing for us and disappeared though. Too much burscough not enough, er, bootle?
Re holgate : wonder how he feels the clubs has treated him. Hope the club have stood by him and all that but a bit worried tbh. I like the look of him as a player.
Post by: Everton Mint on February 24, 2018, 04:31:41 PM
Live on MUTV (loads of streams & Mobdro).
COYBB !
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 24, 2018, 06:10:56 PM
Post by: Shogun on February 24, 2018, 06:34:31 PM
Post by: SANA_DR0 on February 25, 2018, 03:52:03 AM
On Dowell, it won’t help that he’s playing I’m a dreadful team
wtf happened to forest, 4 months ago they was on fire.
@Toddacelli (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2432)
whats the inside scoop?
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 25, 2018, 03:52:42 AM
wtf happened to forest, 4 months ago they was on fire.Nah
@Toddacelli (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2432)
whats the inside scoop?
They either won or lost
Went on a bad run, sacked the manager and now a struggling
Post by: Toddacelli on February 26, 2018, 08:11:12 PM
Nah
They either won or lost
Went on a bad run, sacked the manager and now a struggling
Exactly as @Jimmywhack (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=329) says:
They didn't draw many and it was a bit 50/50 for a while but in their last 14 before their win this weekend it's W2 D4 L8. Their wins will keep them out of the relegation zone but it looks like their losses will keep them out of the top half of the table by the end of the season.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on February 28, 2018, 12:02:18 AM
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 12:05:41 AM
Hope he has a good game and is given a chance in the first team soon.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on March 06, 2018, 12:21:50 AM
Davy Klaassen getting a run-out in tonights game against Swansea.
Hope he has a good game and is given a chance in the first team soon.
thank you for this.. going to try and find some streams. is it on everton fc?/youtube/twitter/facebook?
Post by: Everton Mint on March 06, 2018, 12:35:22 AM
Davy Klaassen getting a run-out in tonights game against Swansea.Poor sod wouldnt be able to show anything playing with that load of frauds.
Hope he has a good game and is given a chance in the first team soon.
Better for him if he just gets fit and finds a better team in the summer.
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 12:41:00 AM
thank you for this.. going to try and find some streams. is it on everton fc?/youtube/twitter/facebook?
Found this mate, hope it works.
https://www.swanseacity.com/news/live-tonight-everton-u23s-v-swans-u23s
Kick off is 7pm
Post by: SANA_DR0 on March 06, 2018, 12:42:46 AM
Found this mate, hope it works.
https://www.swanseacity.com/news/live-tonight-everton-u23s-v-swans-u23s
Kick off is 7pm
#Thankyou!
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 06, 2018, 01:08:59 AM
Post by: SANA_DR0 on March 06, 2018, 01:18:27 AM
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 06, 2018, 01:22:11 AM
Post by: Polledreng on March 06, 2018, 01:23:01 AM
what a goalAnd nice to see Klaassen celebrate with the kids
Post by: Alanvideo on March 06, 2018, 01:23:14 AM
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 06, 2018, 01:24:14 AM
And nice to see Klaassen celebrate with the kids
Definitely. Really want him in the team. There is a class player in there.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on March 06, 2018, 01:30:02 AM
whats going on with that Camera Angle.. who scored the goal? i didnt realize i missed the goal...
im sure it was 0-0 :S i only went to the loo and back!
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 01:31:33 AM
Post by: brap2 on March 06, 2018, 01:32:21 AM
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 01:35:31 AM
why is the sound so shit on the stream?
whats going on with that Camera Angle.. who scored the goal? i didnt realize i missed the goal...
im sure it was 0-0 :S i only went to the loo and back!
Anthony Evans scored the goal.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on March 06, 2018, 01:38:26 AM
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 01:42:02 AM
our number 5 was lucky not to get sent off..
Looking at him - he reminded me a bit of Eddie Youds with his build.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on March 06, 2018, 01:45:15 AM
the number 5 is Morgan Feeney?
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 01:47:22 AM
cant find a team sheet.. lol
the number 5 is Morgan Feeney?
Everton U23s: Mateusz Hewelt, Nathangelo Markelo, Lewis Gibson, Beni Baningime, Con Ouzounidis, Ramiro Funes Mori, Antony Evans (Capt), Davy Klaassen, Fraser Hornby, Bassala Sambou, Josh Bowler.
Subs: Joe Hilton, David Henen, Shayne Lavery, Conor Grant, Alex Denny.
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 01:48:09 AM
Post by: SANA_DR0 on March 06, 2018, 01:48:47 AM
i guess its Lewis Gibson :D
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 02:08:42 AM
Post by: brap2 on March 06, 2018, 02:23:11 AM
cant find a team sheet.. lol
the number 5 is Morgan Feeney?
Nah he’s injured, it’s a fella with a Greek sounding name I think
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on March 06, 2018, 02:33:58 AM
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 02:37:48 AM
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 02:46:02 AM
Post by: Brownie20 on March 06, 2018, 02:49:55 AM
Post by: brap2 on March 06, 2018, 02:52:10 AM
How did Davy play?
Only saw the first half, but he was fairly tidy and fairly anonymous in equal measures.
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 02:53:35 AM
How did Davy play?
Thought he did ok, some nice touches and a couple of good interceptions.
The player who has impressed me is the right back Markelo.
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 06, 2018, 02:59:29 AM
Looking at him - he reminded me a bit of Eddie Youds with his build.That's a blast from the past
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 06, 2018, 03:00:20 AM
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 03:02:48 AM
That's a blast from the past
I am always amazed by how much useless information I have stored in my head.
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 03:04:09 AM
How did Beni play?
He was probably, the second best player for us for me. He tackled well and what I like about him, is that he has his head up when he has the ball and is always looking for a pass.
Post by: Lxxx on March 06, 2018, 04:15:14 AM
Will be interesting to see Henen, if he gets on.
Any particular reason for that?
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 06:06:15 AM
Any particular reason for that?
Basically, because I had never seen him play. As it turned out, he was only on for the end of the game and did not do much at all.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on March 06, 2018, 06:59:52 PM
Basically, because I had never seen him play. As it turned out, he was only on for the end of the game and did not do much at all.
when i've seen Henen earlier in the season,. he was pretty good, almost vital to the under 23 team... i think he was included in a Europa league squad due to his excellent for pre christmas.
Post by: Toffee1 on March 06, 2018, 10:43:26 PM
when i've seen Henen earlier in the season,. he was pretty good, almost vital to the under 23 team... i think he was included in a Europa league squad due to his excellent for pre christmas.
Cheers @SANA_DR0 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6573) this was my first full U23 game and I was pleased to see the game and hopefully, players that will be our future. Have a heard a lot about Henen, but never seen him play.
As I posted earlier, I was impressed with Markelo and Beni and thought Davy and Funes played well.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on March 07, 2018, 12:00:14 AM
Cheers @SANA_DR0 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6573) this was my first full U23 game and I was pleased to see the game and hopefully, players that will be our future. Have a heard a lot about Henen, but never seen him play.
As I posted earlier, I was impressed with Markelo and Beni and thought Davy and Funes played well.
I watched more under 23 at the start of the season... i watched the first half last night and a bit of the second.. but im drained from everton. the only thing that excites me now is the toxic home atmosphere.
and Niasse's smile.
Post by: Everton Mint on March 08, 2018, 10:25:37 PM
Today, just 4 of the current U18 squad were given a Pro contract with Everton.
Dont know who they are yet, but there will be very many disappointed lads being released.
It's a tough world.
Post by: stirlingblue on March 08, 2018, 10:34:12 PM
ITK info re Under-18's:
Today, just 4 of the current U18 squad were given a Pro contract with Everton.
Dont know who they are yet, but there will be very many disappointed lads being released.
It's a tough world.
Is that retention rate normal? It seems low but I can’t tell without context
Post by: Everton Mint on March 08, 2018, 10:37:33 PM
Is that retention rate normal? It seems low but I can’t tell without context
It is low but I think fairly normal as there is only one team to go into (U-23's) and already 4 year-groups of players ahead of them already there. Plus any others that have been bought in...
Post by: brap2 on March 08, 2018, 10:48:26 PM
Mampala
Duke-McKenna
Baxter
Ouzounidis
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 08, 2018, 11:01:08 PM
Post by: brap2 on March 08, 2018, 11:09:42 PM
How old is hornby
Shit there’s note pages here.. Alex Denny, Anthony Gordon and hornby are all 18s as well...
Doesn’t make sense this, these are supposed to be a good generation and are near the top of their league?
Post by: kramer0 on March 09, 2018, 12:39:10 AM
https://www.trainingground.guru/articles/everton-youth-teams-now-more-direct,-less-sanitised (https://www.trainingground.guru/articles/everton-youth-teams-now-more-direct,-less-sanitised)
Some choice quotes:
Quote
“The sanitisation of Academy football – everything played on a lovely pitch, on the grass – (has changed), so that when they go to League Two on loan and don’t see the ball for 10 minutes and say, ‘What’s going on here?’ they are ready because that’s English football at the lower levels so we have to prepare them for that."
Quote
“But we’ve also got players upfront who have got to learn to win headers, who have got to learn to win flick-ons, like in the real world, so if we play out from the back all the time these centre-forwards aren’t getting that work."
It seems regressive to develop players so they'll be comfortable in League Two if they go on loan. And to think of flick-ons as the "real world." It's only a reality for crap teams in England. Nobody who's actually good plays that route one garbage.
I know he mentions playing out from the back and going direct but really, there's no point bothering with the latter. Our academy players are never going to reach the level we need them at if half of their development time is spent learning crap football.
Post by: brap2 on March 09, 2018, 12:53:30 AM
In 1992
Post by: Goaljira on March 09, 2018, 01:31:24 AM
Not exactly on topic based on the previous few posts but I saw this a few weeks ago. It's not great, at least from my point-of view.
https://www.trainingground.guru/articles/everton-youth-teams-now-more-direct,-less-sanitised (https://www.trainingground.guru/articles/everton-youth-teams-now-more-direct,-less-sanitised)
Some choice quotes:
It seems regressive to develop players so they'll be comfortable in League Two if they go on loan. And to think of flick-ons as the "real world." It's only a reality for crap teams in England. Nobody who's actually good plays that route one garbage.
I know he mentions playing out from the back and going direct but really, there's no point bothering with the latter. Our academy players are never going to reach the level we need them at if half of their development time is spent learning crap football.
Catch-22 though, isnt it. English football is fucked for developing highest quality youth players, and the national team will always suffer for it.
Barring the wunderkids who are physically/technically able to go straight into the first team at 18, most will never develop to a higher level if no one will take them on loan because they're no good at playing lower league style football. And they'll never develop just staying in an academy not playing real football.
The only hope you've really got is loaning them out abroad, but without an official link to another club then it'll be hard as theyve got their own players to develop as maybe players from better teams from that country already more suited to the style?
So other than 'B' teams in the lower divisions or parent clubs who take groups of kids en masse then its not going to work, and that won't happen because it'd mean losing more established teams from the league or small clubs losing their 'identities'(Which is an absolutely understandable issue for their fans to have).
Like I said, fucked.
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 09, 2018, 02:22:10 AM
Post by: Gash on March 09, 2018, 04:25:02 AM
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-defender-tyias-browning-miss-14385296
I read as far as Darron Gibson being injured (again) then couldn't be bothered with the Echo's adverts slowing my computer down to a stop.
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 09, 2018, 04:44:30 AM
I read as far as Darron Gibson being injured (again) then couldn't be bothered with the Echo's adverts slowing my computer down to a stop.Browning out injured. Again.
Post by: van der Meyde on March 09, 2018, 07:38:09 PM
I know he mentions playing out from the back and going direct but really, there's no point bothering with the latter. Our academy players are never going to reach the level we need them at if half of their development time is spent learning crap football.We need to get players ready for first team football.
If we're going to appoint managers like Koeman and Allardyce, then frankly this is an excellent approach...
Post by: Polledreng on March 09, 2018, 08:27:06 PM
We need to get players ready for first team football.Hope we will stop appointing managers like Ronald and Sam
If we're going to appoint managers like Koeman and Allardyce, then frankly this is an excellent approach...
Post by: Everton Mint on March 11, 2018, 03:44:37 AM
Many more of these lads could make it at Everton but for the fact that we, like the rest of the PL, need instant results and are buying in the finished article from all over the world.
Post by: Toffee1 on March 11, 2018, 06:25:52 PM
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-news-transfer-rumours-live-14395519
Post by: Everton Mint on March 28, 2018, 04:39:41 PM
More info when if/when he accepts...
Post by: Rodenplav64 on March 28, 2018, 05:28:37 PM
If you watch the U-18's they play some excellent football. The skill, intensity and speed of the games is quite amazing.
Many more of these lads could make it at Everton but for the fact that we, like the rest of the PL, need instant results and are buying in the finished article from all over the world.
If we are buying the finished article how come they need a season to acclimatise prove unsuited to the league ? At least you know most of your U23 side are suited to the league but unless you play them you won't know . Holgate , Davies and Kenny are well capable of covering and in time being first choice .
Post by: Everton Mint on March 29, 2018, 12:46:41 AM
If we are buying the finished article how come they need a season to acclimatise prove unsuited to the league ? At least you know most of your U23 side are suited to the league but unless you play them you won't know . Holgate , Davies and Kenny are well capable of covering and in time being first choice .It has only been Davies that had cemented a place in the team. Others are just covering as you say and as soon as the injured player is fit they are out again.
The other issue, as ever, is experience. Young players can be good enough physically and technically but they dont have the games of an older player. This is what limits a lot of their chances. The fact that Everton have been struggling as a team anyway makes their involvement even less likely.
To be fair we do give more chances than most but the queue of players ahead of the kids is always going to be an issue.
The lad I know isnt so bothered about leaving Everton as he wants and needs games. His chances here would be very limited.
Post by: brap2 on March 29, 2018, 01:37:49 AM
Post by: Bally on March 29, 2018, 01:30:30 PM
What position roughly does he play @Everton Mint (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3381)Reverse cowgirl
Post by: Everton Mint on March 31, 2018, 07:34:00 PM
What position roughly does he play @Everton Mint (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3381)Centre-mid.
He's back at Everton for now after scoring in his trial game.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 01, 2018, 07:37:23 PM
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 01, 2018, 11:16:24 PM
Post by: brap2 on April 08, 2018, 08:52:59 PM
Did brilliantly when he came on, but when he gets a chance to finish the game he tries to finesse it into the side netting when really he should just make sure and bury it.
I don’t think he’s a bad finisher - I think he’s affected heavily by overthinking his decisions in game. Not instinctual, every finish looks training ground to me, rather than a hungry reflex.
Hopefully will improve with guidance but will be a real sign of lack of progress if our options up top next year are as weak as they have been this year.
Post by: gizzblue on April 08, 2018, 10:02:13 PM
Post by: kramer0 on April 08, 2018, 10:28:23 PM
This is why, despite uncertainty about how good they can actually be, I'd have had Holgate, Davies, and Calvert-Lewin playing as many minutes as possible in the second half of this season. Those three rarely look out of place when called into action against senior pros. I think you need to invest minutes in young players like that, especially when you're not competing for anything. That's a big part of how you find the Kanes, Allis, and Rashfords of the world.
Post by: Confucius on April 08, 2018, 11:24:20 PM
There's only so much young players can improve without playing.
This is why, despite uncertainty about how good they can actually be, I'd have had Holgate, Davies, and Calvert-Lewin playing as many minutes as possible in the second half of this season. Those three rarely look out of place when called into action against senior pros. I think you need to invest minutes in young players like that, especially when you're not competing for anything. That's a big part of how you find the Kanes, Allis, and Rashfords of the world.
They have to be able to hit the target from 6 yards out and not miss by about 10 with the goal at their mercy. He literally can’t score no matter how easy the chance.
Post by: brap2 on April 08, 2018, 11:52:14 PM
There's only so much young players can improve without playing.
This is why, despite uncertainty about how good they can actually be, I'd have had Holgate, Davies, and Calvert-Lewin playing as many minutes as possible in the second half of this season. Those three rarely look out of place when called into action against senior pros. I think you need to invest minutes in young players like that, especially when you're not competing for anything. That's a big part of how you find the Kanes, Allis, and Rashfords of the world.
I agree. Nothing to be gained by wasting minutes on finished players.
Do not agree with @Confucius (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=196) - he’s scored this year so that’s not literally true is it. It’s definitely a gap in his game but it’s nothing to write him off over just yet.
Post by: TheRam on April 09, 2018, 12:34:04 AM
I agree. Nothing to be gained by wasting minutes on finished players.
Do not agree with @Confucius (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=196) - he’s scored this year so that’s not literally true is it. It’s definitely a gap in his game but it’s nothing to write him off over just yet.
People seem desperate to write him off.
Even when he only just broke into the team people were saying he offers nothing.
He's improved massively over the last 12 months and I expect that to continue.
He missed a sitter, yes, but no need to be writing him off.
Post by: Silas on April 09, 2018, 12:42:12 AM
Post by: Shogun on April 09, 2018, 12:42:17 AM
Especially considering this has been an ultra negative campaign in terms of performances, style and results.
Kane only made 10 league appearances by the time he was 21 and scored 3 goals with 0 assists.
Does that mean DCL will be better than Kane? Obviously not. It does show he's actually progressing quite well though.
Edit: He's also got incredible abs.
Post by: cantoffee on April 09, 2018, 12:46:00 AM
Post by: Silas on April 09, 2018, 12:46:16 AM
4 goals and 6 assists in 31 league matches (18 starts) when he's only just turned 21 is alright.
Especially considering this has been an ultra negative campaign in terms of performances, style and results.
Kane only made 10 league appearances by the time he was 21 and scored 3 goals with 0 assists.
Does that mean DCL will be better than Kane? Obviously not. It does show he's actually progressing quite well though.
Edit: He's also got incredible abs.
I've got incredible IBS but you don't see anyone banging on about it.
Post by: Goaljira on April 09, 2018, 12:53:09 AM
Give him a chance.
Post by: TheBlackWatchFanzine on April 09, 2018, 01:39:12 AM
DCL should be early cup rounds starter and last twenty mins only till he improves .
I agree - he's done well this season at times, give the circumstances, and I thought he did ok when he came on yesterday, but it's a damning indictment of our player recruitment that he's had to play as many games as he has given his inexperience.
Post by: Ridge on April 09, 2018, 04:49:08 AM
A better manager would have worked with him individually and improved him far more. Younger coaches are far more likely to customise development.
Post by: Confucius on April 09, 2018, 12:13:34 PM
Post by: howard1334 on April 10, 2018, 12:51:47 AM
4 goals and 6 assists in 31 league matches (18 starts) when he's only just turned 21 is alright.
Especially considering this has been an ultra negative campaign in terms of performances, style and results.
Kane only made 10 league appearances by the time he was 21 and scored 3 goals with 0 assists.
Does that mean DCL will be better than Kane? Obviously not. It does show he's actually progressing quite well though.
Edit: He's also got incredible abs.
While I am a bit of a stat head myself, in this case, I think the stats are actually misleading -- making it seem as though DCL has performed better than he actually has. I am not as confident as others that he will be progressing.
Post by: Toffee1 on April 10, 2018, 01:00:40 AM
Post by: Shogun on April 10, 2018, 01:04:35 AM
While I am a bit of a stat head myself, in this case, I think the stats are actually misleading -- making it seem as though DCL has performed better than he actually has. I am not as confident as others that he will be progressing.
Lies, damned lies and statistics.
He’s had a solid season in what has been an absolute mess of a season in years.
Personally think he’ll become a really good player under an ambitious manager.
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 10, 2018, 01:23:12 AM
Lies, damned lies and statistics.I'm starting to think his versatility will be his down fall
He's had a solid season in what has been an absolute mess of a season in years.
Personally think he'll become a really good player under an ambitious manager.
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on April 10, 2018, 01:42:06 AM
Post by: Silas on April 10, 2018, 01:47:07 AM
I'm starting to think his versatility will be his down fall
Shades of Anichebe
Post by: Lxxx on April 10, 2018, 02:00:57 AM
All good points. He just fails to even get close with most of his shooting. Even Cenk’s 1st goal of the brace he scored was because DCL missed an absolute sitter. You can’t teach a striker to score. It’s natural and instinctive. He just doesn’t have it. Will be very good at everything else besides his most important job.
I think that's the key though isn't it. He's not a striker really, he's more of a forward player who sometimes gets in and around the box and will bag a goal every now and then.
He's just not the player Kane is as when he was coming through he got dogs abuse from shooting miserably from anywhere and got shunted down the leagues to hopefully refine it, which he did. DCL has good technique, athletic physique, a willing runner but you won't find him in and around the area looking like he's desperate to get on the scoresheet. Maybe it'll come with time and experience.
Post by: Confucius on April 10, 2018, 02:16:13 AM
I think that's the key though isn't it. He's not a striker really, he's more of a forward player who sometimes gets in and around the box and will bag a goal every now and then.
He's just not the player Kane is as when he was coming through he got dogs abuse from shooting miserably from anywhere and got shunted down the leagues to hopefully refine it, which he did. DCL has good technique, athletic physique, a willing runner but you won't find him in and around the area looking like he's desperate to get on the scoresheet. Maybe it'll come with time and experience.
What’s the point then? A forward player who plays like a defensive midfielder but can’t play midfielder.
He needs to add goals to his game. Otherwise he won’t make it as a premier league player.
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 10, 2018, 02:21:46 AM
Shades of AnichebeWithout being made of paper mache
Post by: GLewis on April 10, 2018, 02:31:58 AM
How’s Lookman doing at RBL? He getting much game time?
On the bench tonight.
Think after the first few games that’s what he’s been limited to, although that’s more than he might have got here...
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 10, 2018, 02:36:15 AM
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on April 10, 2018, 02:59:38 AM
Was absolutely the wrong move for lookman you go on loan to get minutes. Been a wasted opportunity for him.
Only himself to blame. Silly sod.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 10, 2018, 03:00:50 AM
Only himself to blame. Silly sod.
There’s ambition then there’s delusion. He should have gone and dominated the championship rather than not played for a quality side.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on April 10, 2018, 03:03:07 AM
Post by: TheRam on April 10, 2018, 03:40:43 AM
Not much he could've learnt in the championship that he doesn't already know.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 10, 2018, 03:46:13 AM
Good on him for wanting to test himself in a foreign league at his age.
Not much he could've learnt in the championship that he doesn't already know.
They go on loan to get minutes. He needed to pick a side he'd have a bigger role for. It was pretty much tied on that wouldn't happen with this move.
Post by: Ross on April 10, 2018, 04:08:37 AM
He’s been involved in 6 of the 8 league games they’ve had since he got there.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 10, 2018, 04:13:38 AM
He’s got more league minutes for RB Leipzig this season than he has for us.
He’s been involved in 6 of the 8 league games they’ve had since he got there.
Granted but I'd rather have seen him playing a vital role at a championship club rather than stay here or be in Germany
Post by: Ross on April 10, 2018, 04:20:35 AM
Granted but I'd rather have seen him playing a vital role at a championship club rather than stay here or be in Germany
He’s getting “minutes” like you say you wanted him to get but at a much higher standard than the one you believe he should be playing at while surrounded by better players and learning from better coaches.
You’re making out like he’s sat on his arse eating a bratwurst every game.
Post by: TheRam on April 10, 2018, 04:21:27 AM
What's gone on with him?
We also lost 4-0 to West Ham.
Post by: Lxxx on April 10, 2018, 04:23:29 AM
Good on him for wanting to test himself in a foreign league at his age.He's never played in the championship. He's hardly played in the Premier League. All his experience has been at a lower level, he needs to start racking up some minutes somewhere soon if he's going to have a crack at a decent career.
Not much he could've learnt in the championship that he doesn't already know.
Post by: brap2 on April 10, 2018, 04:27:58 AM
Lies, damned lies and statistics.
He’s had a solid season in what has been an absolute mess of a season in years.
Personally think he’ll become a really good player under an ambitious manager.
Tall, fast, good technique.
I think he’ll be absolutely fine, with a slim chance of being very good.
Post by: themilkycoffees on April 10, 2018, 09:27:23 PM
He's never played in the championship. He's hardly played in the Premier League. All his experience has been at a lower level, he needs to start racking up some minutes somewhere soon if he's going to have a crack at a decent career.
He did play almost a full season in the Championship in 2015-16. If he was at Spurs/Arsenal/Liverpool, he'd been involved in the first team nearly every week. He'll have a great career. Whether that's here or somewhere else is another matter.
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 21, 2018, 04:54:08 AM
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-u23s-player-ratings-vs-14558289
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on April 21, 2018, 09:23:45 PM