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Title: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 10, 2017, 01:55:10 PM
Onwards and upwards, ey?

At least we have another fixture to get that defeat out of our system.

Just seen that Atalanta are 18th in Serie A, without a point...oh dear, can only mean one thing!

Not sure who starts this one. We've got the likes of Klassen and Sandro who've looked off the pace in the Prem so could do with game time here. We need to be mindful of the Utd game a few days later, too.

Do we rotate or go for our best 11 and give them game time to gel and try and get some cohesion?

With Martina being awful do we throw Kenny in the deep end away to an Italian side who are probably going to dominate the ball? That too big an ask?

                   Pickford

Kenny   Jags   Keane Baines

       Schneiderlein Besic

Lookman   Sigurdsson   Sandro

                       DCL

I'd go with the above. Gives us more width and we get to see if Kenny can hack it. Also a bit of rotation in anticipation of the Utd game and players in their natural positions.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on September 10, 2017, 02:01:53 PM
Do we have to?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 10, 2017, 02:03:05 PM
Do we have to?
Shit hadn't thought of that...there's a chance things could get worse!!!!'
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 10, 2017, 02:44:19 PM
Why do you think they'll dominate the ball? They look shite
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Ramjam on September 10, 2017, 04:52:12 PM
I just don't see what Sandro brings to the team, I'd play the Croatian kid instead otherwise that team looks sound
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Rhys on September 10, 2017, 04:53:09 PM
I reckon he will bring in;

Holgate for martina
Jags for Williams
Davies for klaassen
DCL for Sandro

Not because of performances yesterday I'd imagine he was thinking of swapping those players to rotate for the 3 games in the week.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Ross on September 10, 2017, 04:56:08 PM
I reckon he will bring in;

Holgate for martina
Jags for Williams
Davies for klaassen
DCL for Sandro

Not because of performances yesterday I'd imagine he was thinking of swapping those players to rotate for the 3 games in the week.

Probably rest Pickford as well.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Rhys on September 10, 2017, 05:11:36 PM
Probably rest Pickford as well.

Didn't want to type that in case it makes it happen.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on September 10, 2017, 05:13:30 PM
Probably rest Pickford as well.

Very much doubt that
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Ross on September 10, 2017, 05:14:27 PM
Very much doubt that

Ok
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: brap2 on September 10, 2017, 05:46:49 PM
I'd play Sandro, Klaassen and Vlasic from the start.

Be tempted to play Martina again because he'll hopefully be dropped against united.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 10, 2017, 05:47:58 PM
Why do you think they'll dominate the ball? They look shite

Seen much of them?

Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Brownie on September 10, 2017, 06:14:12 PM
Probably rest Pickford as well.

I'd be very surprised if he did
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 10, 2017, 06:18:02 PM
Seen much of them?

Obviously not.

The fact that not one of their players is even slightly known suggests that they shouldn't be dominating anything against us.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 10, 2017, 06:18:57 PM
Obviously not.

The fact that not one of their players is even slightly known suggests that they shouldn't be dominating anything against us.

Not known to you.

Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GLewis on September 10, 2017, 06:21:10 PM
Obviously not.

The fact that not one of their players is even slightly known suggests that they shouldn't be dominating anything against us.

They finished 4th last season.

They're obviously ok.

I saw them away at Napoli two weeks ago and they played 3 at the back, tended to sit deep, then hit it up to a target man ( :eh: ) and then bring in their wider players.

Didn't come across as a possession team but then that was away at a better side.

They were 0-1 up and could have put the game to bed but ended up losing 3-1.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 10, 2017, 06:26:42 PM
Not known to you.

How many do you know?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 10, 2017, 06:34:45 PM
How many do you know?

Why does that matter?

I'm not the one who's completely writing them off.

I know they finished 4th last season and heard very positive things.

Just because you don't know much about them (and I'm not professing I know much about them myself here) doesn't mean they should just be written off.

You did the same with split and they troubled us and we ended up buying one of their players.



Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Ravardo on September 10, 2017, 06:42:06 PM
Atlanta v everton i thought it was a piss take thread...weve sunk that far we're now playing against the city under the sea
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Ross on September 10, 2017, 06:51:19 PM
I'd be very surprised if he did

Why? It's pretty common practice from most managers now.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Brownie on September 10, 2017, 07:43:49 PM
Why? It's pretty common practice from most managers now.

Because RK has said a number of times how important Europe is for us. We have to give it our best shot. We are a team who are needing to gel, both as units and overall. First game in the group stages away to a struggling team. We need to beat them and get some confidence up. You don't do that by playing your reserve keeper. Stek will play against Sunderland.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: cantoffee on September 10, 2017, 07:57:12 PM
They finished 4th last season.

They're obviously ok.

I saw them away at Napoli two weeks ago and they played 3 at the back, tended to sit deep, then hit it up to a target man ( :eh: ) and then bring in their wider players.

Didn't come across as a possession team but then that was away at a better side.

They were 0-1 up and could have put the game to bed but ended up losing 3-1.
So they play like us but we don't have the target man or wide players?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Ell Capitan on September 10, 2017, 08:06:24 PM
Saw this thread and was about to write an angry post asking why we were going on a mid-season break for a friendly in America.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on September 10, 2017, 08:19:30 PM
No stand out individuals  doesn't mean they aren't good as a team
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 10, 2017, 08:28:34 PM
They're obviously a good team.

Lost Kessie from last season but he wasn't a particularly irreplaceable player despite his talent.

Ilicic is one to watch out for. Lanky talented effective bastard who tends to turn up in some of the big games. Plays behind the striker and a bit like Sigurdsson, actually.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 10, 2017, 09:58:09 PM
 dreading facing Atlanta, most of the best Italian players along with most of the under 20 upto the under 23s come from Atlantas youth system.

we are going to get royally fucked V Atlanta, Unless we swap the team around and play lots of youth, who show desire, which a lot of our players lacked v spurs.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 10, 2017, 11:01:04 PM
Why do you think they'll dominate the ball? They look shite
We're shiter? Haha

Italian team at home and amidst all the talk of cohesion, formations and team selections - there have been times this season when we've struggled to string 2 or 3 5 yard passes together.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Ravardo on September 10, 2017, 11:17:04 PM
Its a shame we're not playing the game under the sea as thats just about the pace we could handle at the mo
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: brap2 on September 10, 2017, 11:27:14 PM
To be fair I can imagine this game will be quite slow paced. Might suit us.

I can see us having lots of the ball and Schneiderlin having it lots. I'd play Tom Davies because he's very positive with the ball and shouldn't have too much defensive responsibility on Thursday. Charged with more the job to receive the ball off Schneiderlin and get it to Rooney / Gylfi's feet in the final third for them to make something happen.

I'd play some combination of rooney, gylfi, Vlasic and Klaassen.

Not 100% on RB, I'd say Martina again and play Holgate v United.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 10, 2017, 11:32:13 PM
we should have used the europa games to bed in our foreign players like Sandro and Klaassen, should have used dcl and davies in the high tempo prem league games..

surely Koeman knew this.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 11, 2017, 02:01:22 AM
Its a shame we're not playing the game under the sea as thats just about the pace we could handle at the mo
We'd deffo be hydro-pool champs
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 11, 2017, 02:29:18 AM
We'd deffo be hydro-pool champs

mos def, especially with this blue hydro ball

(https://www.dogtrainingproducts.com.au/724-large_default/hugs-hydro-ball.jpg)
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 11, 2017, 02:47:06 AM
Someone please hide Martina and Williams passports please
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GLewis on September 11, 2017, 02:48:31 AM
we should have used the europa games to bed in our foreign players like Sandro and Klaassen, should have used dcl and davies in the high tempo prem league games..

surely Koeman knew this.

Although playing them in games that are the same speed as what they're used to isn't going to get them up to speed if the PL.

Having said that I wouldn't have played them both on Saturday as it was a risk that we'd have nothing in the central areas if they both played badly.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: boothill on September 11, 2017, 05:21:41 AM
can we play vlasic ?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Tony Clifton on September 11, 2017, 05:28:18 AM
can we play vlasic ?

Yep, qualifying rounds don't cup-tie. :thumbsup:

Watching this with the Halloween soundtrack on a loop me.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: brap2 on September 11, 2017, 06:16:14 AM
Looking forward to seeing more of vlasic.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 11, 2017, 05:29:21 PM
Any tickets left for this?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on September 11, 2017, 06:45:32 PM
They finished 4th last season.

They're obviously ok.

I saw them away at Napoli two weeks ago and they played 3 at the back, tended to sit deep, then hit it up to a target man ( :eh: ) and then bring in their wider players.

Didn't come across as a possession team but then that was away at a better side.

They were 0-1 up and could have put the game to bed but ended up losing 3-1.

A target man you say...

Maybe we'll get his number whilst we're over there?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Buck76 on September 11, 2017, 08:04:02 PM
Let's go for a controversial lineup :-

Pickford
Kenny Kean Jags Baines
Davis Klaassen Morgan Valisc
Siggy
Niasse


Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: brap2 on September 11, 2017, 08:54:16 PM
Any tickets left for this?

Think so, seen lots and lots of spares knocking about twitter aswell.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on September 11, 2017, 09:46:16 PM
Think so, seen lots and lots of spares knocking about twitter aswell.

I've got a spare myself.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on September 11, 2017, 10:10:32 PM
We will batter these .
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 11, 2017, 10:15:16 PM
Play our best possible team here..  fuck the Man U game, wont get anything there anyway.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 11, 2017, 10:18:20 PM
We will batter these .

these are some of Atlantas finest batters...

https://www.thrillist.com/eat/atlanta/atlanta-s-best-fried-food-fried-food

this looks to be the shit tho.. literally.

(https://assets3.thrillist.com/v1/image/1265276/size/tl-horizontal_main.jpg)

Chai Pani (address and info)
This Indian street food is made with fresh kale in a curried chickpea batter and served with green chutney and sweet yogurt. Next time your friend tries to foist a green smoothie on you, hit ‘em back with this.


ok i lied.. this looks fucking amazing..

(https://assets3.thrillist.com/v1/image/1265278/size/tl-horizontal_main.jpg)
 Pimento cheese fritters

Del Frisco’s Grille.
Crack open one of these golden nuggets and watch a river of pimento cheese ooze forth. With your trusty chipotle ranch dipping sauce, you’ll be a regular cheese prospector.

:/ made myself hungry now..
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on September 11, 2017, 10:27:31 PM
these are some of Atlantas finest batters...

https://www.thrillist.com/eat/atlanta/atlanta-s-best-fried-food-fried-food

this looks to be the shit tho.. literally.

(https://assets3.thrillist.com/v1/image/1265276/size/tl-horizontal_main.jpg)

Chai Pani (address and info)
This Indian street food is made with fresh kale in a curried chickpea batter and served with green chutney and sweet yogurt. Next time your friend tries to foist a green smoothie on you, hit ‘em back with this.


ok i lied.. this looks fucking amazing..

(https://assets3.thrillist.com/v1/image/1265278/size/tl-horizontal_main.jpg)
 Pimento cheese fritters

Del Frisco’s Grille.
Crack open one of these golden nuggets and watch a river of pimento cheese ooze forth. With your trusty chipotle ranch dipping sauce, you’ll be a regular cheese prospector.

:/ made myself hungry now..

Shame we are playing Atalanta ( not Atlanta , Georgia , America ) but nice work and yes i am now hungry
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on September 11, 2017, 10:28:34 PM
these are some of Atlantas finest batters...

https://www.thrillist.com/eat/atlanta/atlanta-s-best-fried-food-fried-food

this looks to be the shit tho.. literally.

(https://assets3.thrillist.com/v1/image/1265276/size/tl-horizontal_main.jpg)

Chai Pani (address and info)
This Indian street food is made with fresh kale in a curried chickpea batter and served with green chutney and sweet yogurt. Next time your friend tries to foist a green smoothie on you, hit ‘em back with this.


ok i lied.. this looks fucking amazing..

(https://assets3.thrillist.com/v1/image/1265278/size/tl-horizontal_main.jpg)
 Pimento cheese fritters

Del Frisco’s Grille.
Crack open one of these golden nuggets and watch a river of pimento cheese ooze forth. With your trusty chipotle ranch dipping sauce, you’ll be a regular cheese prospector.

:/ made myself hungry now..

Shame we are playing Atalanta ( not Atlanta , Georgia , America ) but nice work and yes i am now hungry
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 11, 2017, 10:36:51 PM
These can score some goals like, that said, they can also concede, they beat Chicago's Bears 21-17 at the weekend.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 11, 2017, 10:43:18 PM
Shame we are playing Atalanta ( not Atlanta , Georgia , America ) but nice work and yes i am now hungry


lol the website said italy! :p
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: mikey_blue on September 11, 2017, 11:38:49 PM
Would love us to play a well balanced squad. People playing in their natural positions, with wide players.

             Pickford
Kenny Keane Jags Baines
          Morgs Gana
Lookman    Sig       Vlasic           
                DCL
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bluenuck on September 12, 2017, 12:05:13 AM
I'm not even arsed about who plays. Just want to see us play as a team, and play with some sort of purpose and system.

I would especially like to see our players not run away from the ball carrier like he has the black plague and support him on the ball.

I think if we do this we'll be just fine and the result will come.

This may sound weird, But what I'm dreading is that we struggle in many areas like we have and still squeak out a 1-0 win.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Polledreng on September 12, 2017, 01:51:54 AM
Shame we are playing Atalanta ( not Atlanta , Georgia , America ) but nice work and yes i am now hungry
and They are from Bergamo but we don't even play there
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Juanito on September 12, 2017, 02:18:34 AM
         Pickford
Kenny Jags Keane  Baines
     Gana Schiederlin
Sandro  Sigurdsson Vlasic
         Calvert Lewin

Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 12, 2017, 04:28:03 AM
@btsport to show @ManCity and @Everton (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3064)'s European matches live this week free-to-air on BT Showcase: https://t.co/1jZkNOBqS6 https://t.co/WR7U8R9h19

http://sport-onthebox.com/bt-sport-showcase-hd-watch-live-sport-freeview-channel-115/
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 12, 2017, 04:29:02 AM
http://sport.bt.com/football/atalanta-v-everton-free-live-stream-europa-league-football-online-or-watch-on-tv-with-bt-sport-S11364211556955
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 12, 2017, 04:29:14 AM
Nice
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 12, 2017, 04:29:45 AM
Soz, didn't see it had been posted
Title: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 12, 2017, 04:32:01 AM
Says you can stream live or watch at 7pm on the BT sport app - surely though if you go on the BT Sport app after the game is finished at 7, you'll find out the result/score?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 12, 2017, 04:48:16 AM
I dont know why they dont just make BTSport2 free to air for the game.

Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bluestevie on September 12, 2017, 05:36:33 AM
Just tried to retune my freeview to get the Showcase channel 3 times, hasn't shown up yet
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: gizzblue on September 12, 2017, 05:38:00 AM
Just tried to retune my freeview to get the Showcase channel 3 times, hasn't shown up yet
Only on hd digital I'm afraid .. ..a hd  tuner or hd telly .
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Ravardo on September 12, 2017, 06:17:38 AM
Im hoping we field a side that will stay the same for a few games after this one, bar swapping 1 player maybe
                                                         pickford
                                 holgate    keane            jags   baines

                                                gueye        schneiderlin

                                       klassen          gylfi       mirallas


                                                            DCL

Chop dcl for rooney
klassen for davies
mirallas for sandro sometime in the second half,,,im only picking mirallas because thats he's postion and id rather he filled it than a newbie playing outta postion
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Buck76 on September 12, 2017, 12:46:35 PM
Would love us to play a well balanced squad. People playing in their natural positions, with wide players.

             Pickford
Kenny Keane Jags Baines
          Morgs Gana
Lookman    Sig       Vlasic           
                DCL

I'd like us to go back to basics with a 442, its the 1st game away with a tough game against United after.

            Pickford
Kenny Keane Jags Baines
Davies Morgs Klaassen Vlasic                 
           Sandro DCL

Its a gamble but it gives Klaassen a chance to play a key role in midfield without getting crowded out & Sandro the chance to play off a front man instead of being isolated with Siggy & Rooney in reserve if they fail to deliver whilst resting them for Sun. Just think we haven't the players for either 352 or 433 atm
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GLewis on September 12, 2017, 03:35:54 PM
Amazed at the amount of people picking Sandro ahead of Rooney.

Rooney has been the most consistent attacker by quite a bit.

DCL did very well vs City but hasn't looked a massive goal threat at all.

Lookman hasn't been good enough this season to warrant a starting run of games.

If we're looking to be solid then the front 4 should be Lennon right, Rooney as 10, Sigurdsson left and DCL up front.

Other combinations are wishful thinking based on what they've done at the top level in England so far.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: brap2 on September 12, 2017, 04:29:51 PM
Amazed at the amount of people picking Sandro ahead of Rooney.

Rooney has been the most consistent attacker by quite a bit.

DCL did very well vs City but hasn't looked a massive goal threat at all.

Lookman hasn't been good enough this season to warrant a starting run of games.

If we're looking to be solid then the front 4 should be Lennon right, Rooney as 10, Sigurdsson left and DCL up front.

Other combinations are wishful thinking based on what they've done at the top level in England so far.

Tbh removing the wishful thinking as you put it i'd probably agree with this, but maybe make the change of Sig in the 10.

Rooneys shown that if we put him wide he will still come for the ball and get involved, and I think 10 is sigs best position so it would be nice to see him in there with a striker a head of him who wants to get on the end of balls.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 12, 2017, 04:30:20 PM
I'm a little worried that we've paid £45m for a player but we're not playing him a position where we can get the best out of him. He's done very little so far on the left of an attacking three and I fear Rooney is undroppable under Koeman so it's more of the same.
I'd like to see us go for a 4-4-1-1 and stop with the 2 sitting and three ahead as the gap between them all is too much at the moment, meaning we're not able to get up the pitch to create much of an attacking threat. Although I fear Koeman will continue with the 'draw is a good result' mentality as we're away which will result in more of the same.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: brap2 on September 12, 2017, 04:37:34 PM
We'll click here and look good, then back to a confused mess on Sunday I reckon.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Rhys on September 12, 2017, 04:38:29 PM
Let's go for a controversial lineup :-

Pickford
Kenny Kean Jags Baines
Davis Klaassen Morgan Valisc
Siggy
Niasse

Very controversial seeing as Niasse didnt make the Europa League squad!
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on September 12, 2017, 04:42:40 PM
@GLewis (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=258) @brap2 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=666) & @Lxxx (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4362) all raising good points.

The best movement I've seen this season from the front players has been against Sevilla when Rooney and Sandro were switching sides regularly.

If we want to play Sigurdsson as the 10, would it work behind two inter-changing strikers? He has the vision and technique to pick them both out I think.

We could also play DCL as the 9, Sigurdsson as the 10 and Sandro and Rooney on either side, but that's quite top heavy and would probably only work against lesser opposition if we had good support from the wing-backs and a VERY solid, hard-working pair in midfield behind Sigurdsson.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on September 12, 2017, 04:44:17 PM
The other thing is to play our best players in their best positions.

Could we play Sigurdsson as a 10 behind Rooney as a 9?

I know some people think he's finished as a 9 but I don't.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 12, 2017, 05:52:12 PM
Just tried to retune my freeview to get the Showcase channel 3 times, hasn't shown up yet

I really dont get what BT are trying to achieve. Most people into football have Sky or cable yet they dont put the free games on them.  Not many have Freeview HD but its on there...
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 12, 2017, 05:59:00 PM
The other thing is to play our best players in their best positions.

Could we play Sigurdsson as a 10 behind Rooney as a 9?

I know some people think he's finished as a 9 but I don't.

I agree. However then we're back to the square pegs in round holes on the left again. It really is criminal that we've had three years of neglect on that side of the pitch, for a side that is the 12th most expensive team in the world at the moment.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blargins on September 12, 2017, 06:25:29 PM
The other thing is to play our best players in their best positions.

Could we play Sigurdsson as a 10 behind Rooney as a 9?

I know some people think he's finished as a 9 but I don't.

Koeman did say that Rooney would play multiple roles, so why not?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 12, 2017, 06:27:48 PM
Amazed at the amount of people picking Sandro ahead of Rooney.

Rooney has been the most consistent attacker by quite a bit.

DCL did very well vs City but hasn't looked a massive goal threat at all.

Lookman hasn't been good enough this season to warrant a starting run of games.

If we're looking to be solid then the front 4 should be Lennon right, Rooney as 10, Sigurdsson left and DCL up front.

Other combinations are wishful thinking based on what they've done at the top level in England so far.

Doesn't it make sense that people may not have Rooney in their team due to him playing every single minute of this season and the United match coming up?

Whilst European matches are probably best for Sandro (and Klaassen) if they're to settle in.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GLewis on September 12, 2017, 06:35:53 PM
Doesn't it make sense that people may not have Rooney in their team due to him playing every single minute of this season and the United match coming up?

Whilst European matches are probably best for Sandro (and Klaassen) if they're to settle in.

Yeah that's fine if that's the reasoning.

It was more of a general reaction to suggestions that he shouldn't play.

Eg there's been a few mentions of him blocking Sigurdsson but he's not played as a 10 since Sigurdsson came bar at City.

Just seems to be a bit of a misconception and appreciation of what he's been doing.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: brap2 on September 12, 2017, 07:53:07 PM
Yeah I'd be happy dropping Rooney.

Part me thinks it might shake something loose in the other players as well. That's pure conjecture but I just hope playing alongside the Wayne Rooney isn't becoming a bit of a millstone to our other, currently under performing attacking players.

I'd like to see us go DCL up top against united and play the channel game, so if that means Sandro, Gylfi, Vlasic and Lookman up top in this game then sound.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: brap2 on September 12, 2017, 07:55:18 PM
What am I saying? there's no way that will be the team.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 12, 2017, 08:27:59 PM
Yeah I'd be happy dropping Rooney.

Part me thinks it might shake something loose in the other players as well. That's pure conjecture but I just hope playing alongside the Wayne Rooney isn't becoming a bit of a millstone to our other, currently under performing attacking players.

I'd like to see us go DCL up top against united and play the channel game, so if that means Sandro, Gylfi, Vlasic and Lookman up top in this game then sound.

yeah, will never happen with "Rooney returns to Old Trafford" but we do need to start rotating.  Can't be developing a mindset amongst the players that anyone is undroppable or that we can't play without Rooney on the pitch.  It's just not a sane expectation at his age, and I think he's been quite good so far.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: brap2 on September 12, 2017, 08:32:50 PM
I think to be fair he should play as much as possible because he's our best player, but if we can rotate in the cups safely we should.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 12, 2017, 11:17:07 PM
for me, Rooney, Klaassen, Sandro, Schneiderlin, Martina, Williams need to be dropped.

the mindset what Evertonian in NC states, i think is already happening, players are not performing, they look like they have given up before we even start(maybe due to Koemans tactics) are not being dropped, at the expense of players, who actually give what they have.

Mirralas, DCL, Davies, Holgate, have to play, id play Lookman  or Vlasic too,

the attack he plays, hasn't worked for us, he needs to switch it up, before the confidence is knocked out of our under performing new comers.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Buck76 on September 12, 2017, 11:52:04 PM
Very controversial seeing as Niasse didnt make the Europa League squad!

Didn't think we had enough strikers to leave him out, if DCL gets injured we are proper fucked! Which just makes ya blood boil, WTF did Walsh do in Italy?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 13, 2017, 12:05:48 AM
Didn't think we had enough strikers to leave him out, if DCL gets injured we are proper fucked! Which just makes ya blood boil, WTF did Walsh do in Italy?

no idea, get a pair of matching balls for Leicester?

(http://i3.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/article11646811.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/GettyImages-518860946.jpg)
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 13, 2017, 12:33:07 AM
Not entirely sure why rooney needs to be dropped considering he has been probably our only consistent player
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 13, 2017, 12:52:03 AM
Not entirely sure why rooney needs to be dropped considering he has been probably our only consistent player

id drop him due to, A, drink driving, B, hes supposed to be a role model (thats one of the reasons Everton would have brought him back) as a role model, you shouldnt be drink driving, or cheating on your pregnant mrs, on top of that, im sure his children would have heard. C, he maybe the only league goal scorer, but Rooney as the main number 9, he just drops off,, leaving no one there, which in turn frustrates him and causes him to get booked. D,  see C due to that our team is very unbalanced, 3 players dropping off, if not 4 players... leaving no central striker...
We need to change things, if Rooney is going to be the main striker, then he needs to stop coming back, as when we get the ball up front, no one is there to keep it, thus the other team attacks and attacks, which  eventually leads to a mistake, and a goal for the opposition.

id probably play him in midfield, as long as we have a striker who will stay up top,, but as the main  striker or playing off of Sandro.. no no no.. its just too painful to endure.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GLewis on September 13, 2017, 01:10:36 AM
He's played as the right forward mostly or if he has played as the 9 he's had at least one runner on the wings or next to him.

We've conceded 1 goal (Split away) when he's been the main striker which wasn't due to him dropping deep.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Buck76 on September 13, 2017, 01:34:53 AM
Not entirely sure why rooney needs to be dropped considering he has been probably our only consistent player

State of mind maybe, let's not forget he got gripped 3 times over the limit with let's face it a whopper! What effect does that have on the rest of the lads? I'd be having words, maybe none but I doubt he's sleeping right, anyone who's been there knows how emotionally brutal it must be.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: brap2 on September 13, 2017, 06:17:13 AM
In typical form, I'm now really looking forward to this and want to get Wednesday out the way so I can get a few little tinnies in, fire up the ahl vape and moan my fucking socks off.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 13, 2017, 07:28:20 AM
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on September 13, 2017, 02:35:32 PM
id drop him due to, A, drink driving, B, hes supposed to be a role model (thats one of the reasons Everton would have brought him back) as a role model, you shouldnt be drink driving, or cheating on your pregnant mrs, on top of that, im sure his children would have heard. C, he maybe the only league goal scorer, but Rooney as the main number 9, he just drops off,, leaving no one there, which in turn frustrates him and causes him to get booked. D,  see C due to that our team is very unbalanced, 3 players dropping off, if not 4 players... leaving no central striker...
We need to change things, if Rooney is going to be the main striker, then he needs to stop coming back, as when we get the ball up front, no one is there to keep it, thus the other team attacks and attacks, which  eventually leads to a mistake, and a goal for the opposition.

id probably play him in midfield, as long as we have a striker who will stay up top,, but as the main  striker or playing off of Sandro.. no no no.. its just too painful to endure.

Awful post.

id drop him due to,
A, drink driving, - Irrelevant. It will be dealt with away from the pitch
B, hes supposed to be a role model (thats one of the reasons Everton would have brought him back) as a role model, you shouldnt be drink driving, or cheating on your pregnant mrs, on top of that, im sure his children would have heard. - If you think he was brought to the club for anything other than footballing reasons  lolol
C, he maybe the only league goal scorer, (he IS not may be) but Rooney as the main number 9, he just drops off,, leaving no one there, which in turn frustrates him and causes him to get booked. If Rooney drops off it is because that is because the team aren't getting the ball to him - he's too isolated so he is coming looking for it and making himself available to his teammates because they lack the quality and cohesion to find him at present
D,  see C due to that our team is very unbalanced, 3 players dropping off, if not 4 players... leaving no central striker... We need to change things, if Rooney is going to be the main striker, then he needs to stop coming back, as when we get the ball up front, no one is there to keep it, thus the other team attacks and attacks, which  eventually leads to a mistake, and a goal for the opposition. Rooney dropping off from a 9 position because he's not getting the ball leads to him getting a booking and the opposition scoring?  lolol
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: MmmblueBernard on September 13, 2017, 03:03:41 PM
these are some of Atlantas finest batters...

https://www.thrillist.com/eat/atlanta/atlanta-s-best-fried-food-fried-food

this looks to be the shit tho.. literally.

(https://assets3.thrillist.com/v1/image/1265276/size/tl-horizontal_main.jpg)

Chai Pani (address and info)
This Indian street food is made with fresh kale in a curried chickpea batter and served with green chutney and sweet yogurt. Next time your friend tries to foist a green smoothie on you, hit ‘em back with this.


ok i lied.. this looks fucking amazing..

(https://assets3.thrillist.com/v1/image/1265278/size/tl-horizontal_main.jpg)
 Pimento cheese fritters

Del Frisco’s Grille.
Crack open one of these golden nuggets and watch a river of pimento cheese ooze forth. With your trusty chipotle ranch dipping sauce, you’ll be a regular cheese prospector.

:/ made myself hungry now..

Almost went full @Toddacelli (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2432) there. No one should ever go full @Toddacelli (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2432)

:p
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on September 13, 2017, 04:58:52 PM
Almost went full @Toddacelli (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2432) there. No one should ever go full @Toddacelli (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2432)

:p


(http://24.media.tumblr.com/84c97c0bf474cec7ac27ae24464b00c7/tumblr_mo8re1YFr01rivfybo1_250.gif)


Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 13, 2017, 10:20:14 PM
Awful post.

id drop him due to,
A, drink driving, - Irrelevant. It will be dealt with away from the pitchnot irrelevant, but its not only the drink driving, its his mental ability thats in question. he must feel fucked, if his wife is asking him to have time off to sort things out..
B, hes supposed to be a role model (thats one of the reasons Everton would have brought him back) as a role model, you shouldnt be drink driving, or cheating on your pregnant mrs, on top of that, im sure his children would have heard. - If you think he was brought to the club for anything other than footballing reasons  lolol i dont think this is the reason. but it is one of the reasons, hes a marketing tool, all players are. look at the psg players who pimp a country whose human rights record is atrocious, rooney represents everton football club, youngsters look upto him, he is a role model englands highest goal scorer, man utds highest goal scorer, back at his boyhood club. as i said. its the whole package what he offers, he has a higher reputation than any other of our players, and he;s known world wide.
C, he maybe the only league goal scorer, (he IS not may be) but Rooney as the main number 9, he just drops off,, leaving no one there, which in turn frustrates him and causes him to get booked. If Rooney drops off it is because that is because the team aren't getting the ball to him - he's too isolated so he is coming looking for it and making himself available to his teammates because they lack the quality and cohesion to find him at present
as the number 9,. regardless if he isnt getting the ball, he shouldnt drop off, leaving us short up top, so when he gets the ball. there is no one for him to pass too... the team arent getting the ball to him due to the formation, maybe different if he didnt play.
D,  see C due to that our team is very unbalanced, 3 players dropping off, if not 4 players... leaving no central striker... We need to change things, if Rooney is going to be the main striker, then he needs to stop coming back, as when we get the ball up front, no one is there to keep it, thus the other team attacks and attacks, which  eventually leads to a mistake, and a goal for the opposition. Rooney dropping off from a 9 position because he's not getting the ball leads to him getting a booking and the opposition scoring?  lololthats not what i said.. lol i said.  but thats what you got from it.. ie man city. we couldnt retain the ball at the top of the pitch. our defence had to keep clearing it,, no one in midfield or attack could relieve the pressure, as such man city kept attacking over and over (same as spurs) due to the lack of midfielders/attackers being able to retain the ball,, it eventually led to a defensive mistake.. which man city scored from... against spurs, same issue.. we have no attacking play, so its basically batton down the hatches and defend for 90 mins.


bop!

im going full Toddacelli! no one can stop me!!
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 13, 2017, 11:03:03 PM
Rooney's tendency for a while now has been basically to run all over the place. This is not a new thing to him being here. The England XI had similar issues to what we're having now.

It's not necessarily a bad trait, I mean we want him making runs into the box ala vs Stoke but I think he's trying too hard in some respects.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: D15TIN on September 14, 2017, 04:01:00 AM
Pickford

Kenny Jagielka Keane Baines

Gana

Vlasic Davies Sigurdsson Lookman

Calvert-Lewin
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: brap2 on September 14, 2017, 05:55:00 AM
Can't see us lining up without Schneiderlin at all, just don't see how it works.

He's been poor this year so far I think, but he does an important job that others can't do. Maybe James McCarthy could do a very conservative version of it, but I think I'd rather have a crap Schneiderlin than a crap McCarthy.

We've looked so soft in the middle for a team with two DM's, especially two who are prettt highly rated tacklers, id hate to see what we would be like with only one!
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Juanito on September 14, 2017, 02:58:55 PM
Rooney's tendency for a while now has been basically to run all over the place. This is not a new thing to him being here. The England XI had similar issues to what we're having now.

It's not necessarily a bad trait, I mean we want him making runs into the box ala vs Stoke but I think he's trying too hard in some respects.

He has been our best player and everything has been central to him but I have a strange feeling that if he is out of the side, Sigurdsson would flourish more and we would have more balance.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on September 14, 2017, 03:06:54 PM
He has been our best player and everything has been central to him but I have a strange feeling that if he is out of the side, Sigurdsson would flourish more and we would have more balance.

Not keen on dropping best players just for strange feelings.

It's like when you get a strange feeling about a result, put a bet on it, lose and then think - "so what the fuck was that about?"
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on September 14, 2017, 03:49:38 PM
So this game's on at 6pm UK time?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Lincs Toffee on September 14, 2017, 03:57:45 PM
So this game's on at 6pm UK time?
Yes mate on BT Showcase Freeview Ch 115
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on September 14, 2017, 04:00:35 PM
Yes mate on BT Showcase Freeview Ch 115

3am my time    -__-
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Lincs Toffee on September 14, 2017, 04:06:21 PM
3am my time    -__-
OUCH !I hope its worth it for you mate !
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on September 14, 2017, 04:07:43 PM
OUCH !I hope its worth it for you mate !

I'm yet to decide whether I bother. Our free-flowing, attacking, masterful displays of late probably mean I should. Right?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on September 14, 2017, 04:35:28 PM
Shit! 6pm?

I finish AT 6pm.

20 miles away from home.

Might miss the start.

:(
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 14, 2017, 04:48:06 PM
Shit! 6pm?

I finish AT 6pm.

20 miles away from home.

Might miss the start.

:(

We won't pick up until the second half anyway. Pretty standard. You won't miss much, you can even call for a takeaway on the way home.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on September 14, 2017, 04:53:01 PM
We won't pick up until the second half anyway. Pretty standard. You won't miss much, you can even call for a takeaway on the way home.

I would but - on the motorbike!
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Escla on September 14, 2017, 05:00:36 PM
Yes mate on BT Showcase Freeview Ch 115

So can you get this on ch 115 even if you are not a subscribe (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;area=subscriptions)r to BT ? It's quite confusing if you read the
message on the OS and try to follow the link, it suggests that it is free if you are a BT subscribe (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;area=subscriptions)r ?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Lincs Toffee on September 14, 2017, 05:27:31 PM
So can you get this on ch 115 even if you are not a subscribe (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;area=subscriptions)r to BT ? It's quite confusing if you read the
message on the OS and try to follow the link, it suggests that it is free if you are a BT subscribe (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;area=subscriptions)r ?
Its free on Freeview HD Ch115 yes mate, I'm not  BT subscribe (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;area=subscriptions)r and I understand BT Showcase is free for view

http://www.a516digital.com/p/bt-showcase-freeview-channel-115.html
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on September 14, 2017, 05:31:45 PM
Win this and we will qualify comfortably. A draw's also good, and a loss isn't the end of the world. Not feeling any pressure, just looking for us to play some football and to create some genuine chances.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 14, 2017, 05:39:07 PM
Bluey on Sandro and 3-0 to us

Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Juanito on September 14, 2017, 08:38:13 PM
Bluey on Sandro and 3-0 to us

Like it. I have Atalanta to win in my 5 team acca. 11/8, good odds for a side that have won their last two games and finished 4th last season.

Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on September 14, 2017, 08:40:35 PM
I'm in work till 8 but I'm in an office by myself so I will guarantee I won't be doing any work other than watching the game via a stream
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 14, 2017, 10:35:17 PM
So can you get this on ch 115 even if you are not a subscribe (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;area=subscriptions)r to BT ? It's quite confusing if you read the
message on the OS and try to follow the link, it suggests that it is free if you are a BT subscribe (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;area=subscriptions)r ?

Not many people have Freeview HD and its not on normal Freeview as BT closed their SD channel.

Best place will be the BT website. It had the Man City CL game streamed free last night: 
http://sport.bt.com/watch-the-europa-league-for-free-01364171999153?s_intcid=con_HTWF_ATA-EVE
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: mikey_blue on September 14, 2017, 10:38:29 PM


Sold all their good players though... We sold and alienated our two good ones though. Good odds then.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Lincs Toffee on September 14, 2017, 10:48:03 PM
Any news on the starting 11 yet?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 14, 2017, 10:55:04 PM
Any news on the starting 11 yet?

About 5 mins time I would imagine.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 14, 2017, 10:56:14 PM
a song for the city while we await the XI:

Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 14, 2017, 11:03:49 PM
still nothing!
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 14, 2017, 11:04:18 PM
Steklenburg

Holgate
Jagielka
Keane
Baines

Besic
Schneiderlin

Vlasic
Rooney
Sigurddson

DCL
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 14, 2017, 11:04:34 PM
According to an app I have, dunno if thats bollocks.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 14, 2017, 11:05:19 PM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/908360803153309696
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 14, 2017, 11:05:59 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJslKr4X0AADbg5.jpg)
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 14, 2017, 11:06:03 PM
Nice to see Vlasic from the start.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on September 14, 2017, 11:07:01 PM
Why  the fook can't Kenny at least make the Squad?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 14, 2017, 11:07:40 PM
My bet is nackered already, fuck off Everton
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 14, 2017, 11:08:31 PM
Like it except for Stek.  Yikes.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Brownie on September 14, 2017, 11:09:28 PM
Shocked at Stek. Called it right @Ross (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2316)
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 14, 2017, 11:09:56 PM
No Martina and no Williams..... there's a plus already.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 14, 2017, 11:10:31 PM
My bet is nackered already, fuck off Everton

Dunno why you did Pickford first goal anyway.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on September 14, 2017, 11:11:01 PM
any other time I would say decent team and bench, just need a performance now
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Lincs Toffee on September 14, 2017, 11:13:13 PM
Would have never have predicted that, but I'm ok with it, wont be long until we see if it works
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 14, 2017, 11:14:15 PM
Hmm, odd no Davies even on the bench. Or Lookman for that matter.

Happy to see some more of Vlasic though.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Gary1878 on September 14, 2017, 11:15:45 PM
I really want to see some positive forward play. I want to see us looking threatening to other teams, even if that means conceding a goal or two.

I rarely say this, but the result is less important than the performance for me tonight. They need to show some improvement and link up play in attack otherwise it will be more doom and gloom going into United away.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: dax78 on September 14, 2017, 11:19:04 PM
I like the look of that, except for Stek.
Why no Davies in the squad?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 14, 2017, 11:20:39 PM
Looks good to me.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: hannu on September 14, 2017, 11:21:37 PM
any acestreams for this
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: hill135 on September 14, 2017, 11:23:33 PM
looks good to me, except Stek
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: School of Science on September 14, 2017, 11:25:20 PM
Is Pickford injured ?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: van der Meyde on September 14, 2017, 11:26:52 PM
Oh, are we playing with 4 attackers who all want to play in the middle of the pitch again? With two full backs who aren't effective enough at getting up and down the pitch?

Great stuff.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Juanito on September 14, 2017, 11:26:56 PM
Sold all their good players though... We sold and alienated our two good ones though. Good odds then.

Haha. Just edited my acca when I saw no Willliams and no Martina. Fancy our chances now.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Juanito on September 14, 2017, 11:27:26 PM
Oh, are we playing with 4 attackers who all want to play in the middle of the pitch again? With two full backs who aren't effective enough at getting up and down the pitch?

Great stuff.
[/quote

Oh, I thought Vlasic is a winger.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 14, 2017, 11:29:03 PM
Like that team.

Understand why Stek is in for Pickford. Very experienced at this level.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Outworlder47 on September 14, 2017, 11:31:40 PM
Would rather have had Pickford today and Sunday, with Stekelenburg for the cup game Wednesday, but can see why Koeman made the choice for today. Suspect Stek still starts against Sunderland, though.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 14, 2017, 11:36:44 PM
Like that team.

Understand why Stek is in for Pickford. Very experienced at this level.

Makes little difference for a keeper IMO.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: mikey_blue on September 14, 2017, 11:37:27 PM
Would rather have had Pickford today and Sunday, with Stekelenburg for the cup game Wednesday, but can see why Koeman made the choice for today. Suspect Stek still starts against Sunderland, though.

Been carrying a knock since international week though. Might night a rest.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 14, 2017, 11:37:48 PM
Is Pickford injured ?

No, he's on the bench.

Although I suppose he did withdraw from England with that knock, so possibly just treating him carefully.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blargins on September 14, 2017, 11:41:27 PM
Any streams guys?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 14, 2017, 11:41:31 PM
Koeman interview acknowledged some of his changes represented his being "not happy" with Saturday's effort.

Let's hope that means Jags being in the XI is permanent, and maybe Mo will bring a little needed energy.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 14, 2017, 11:43:28 PM
Any streams guys?

http://www.streamsarena.eu/events/20170914/atalanta-vs-everton-live-stream.php
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 14, 2017, 11:43:30 PM
Any streams guys?

FS2 streams on Fox Sports Go in the USA.  Just need your cable/satellite password.  Quality is excellent so far.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Juanito on September 14, 2017, 11:45:51 PM
Let's hope Vlasic gives us the balance and that bit of pace we have been craving.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: everton1952 on September 14, 2017, 11:49:49 PM
Never rotate your goalkeepers, it creates confusion. The Shite do it. Does it work? No.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blargins on September 14, 2017, 11:50:02 PM
FS2 streams on Fox Sports Go in the USA.  Just need your cable/satellite password.  Quality is excellent so far.

Do you have to watch that on your phone? I don't see the game on their site.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 14, 2017, 11:52:43 PM
this is usually a good stream http://nexit.fun/index.php?ch=1&h=55&a=251
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 14, 2017, 11:54:03 PM
Do you have to watch that on your phone? I don't see the game on their site.

no, I am on the laptop.  It's the "Europa League Pregame Show" now.  I will see if I can post direct link

https://www.foxsportsgo.com/channel/36770/fox-sports-2
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 14, 2017, 11:54:15 PM
any acestreams for this


BT Sport 2 HD acestream://33b428a9cec1d7d2cd2809d8e49a687e167378a6

the bt website is streaming the game too, but if you want a choice of streams

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/comments/7035po/1700_gmt_atalanta_vs_everton/




Liking the team. not sure why Pickford is dropped, we need to win this, having our 1st choice goalie would have been a solid base to start from.

coyb!
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on September 14, 2017, 11:56:39 PM
http://sport.bt.com/watch-the-europa-league-for-free-01364171999153?s_intcid=con_HTWF_ATA-EVE

Can't ask for a better stream than this one, unless you can't view it in a foreign country.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: hannu on September 14, 2017, 11:56:55 PM

BT Sport 2 HD acestream://33b428a9cec1d7d2cd2809d8e49a687e167378a6

the bt website is streaming the game too, but if you want a choice of streams

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/comments/7035po/1700_gmt_atalanta_vs_everton/




Liking the team. not sure why Pickford is dropped, we need to win this, having our 1st choice goalie would have been a solid base to start from.

coyb!

cheers dude
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 14, 2017, 11:58:09 PM
Can't he arsed with these 6pms.

Not at all settled for this
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: hannu on September 14, 2017, 11:58:33 PM
so how bad does everyone think we will play today? bad, awful or why am i watching this?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Ravardo on September 15, 2017, 12:00:06 AM
Tv just showed the formation with vlasic as number 10 wtf hope that wasnt right
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 15, 2017, 12:00:23 AM
come on blues!!!!
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 15, 2017, 12:00:27 AM
BT stream not supported on iPad FFS
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 15, 2017, 12:00:42 AM
That cornelious is nailed on to come off the bench and score the winner
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blob on September 15, 2017, 12:00:45 AM
the lineup looks like we'd be happy sharing the points.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 15, 2017, 12:00:48 AM
Tv just showed the formation with vlasic as number 10 wtf hope that wasnt right

I yelled "WHAT??" at my laptop, too.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 15, 2017, 12:01:54 AM
Good atmos to say its not their home ground.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 15, 2017, 12:02:42 AM
Starting as we mean to go on
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 15, 2017, 12:03:05 AM
BT stream not supported on iPad FFS

Same ere. And I've won about 8 iPhone 7's trying all the other links on ere.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 15, 2017, 12:03:11 AM
Christ, that's a piss poor start.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blargins on September 15, 2017, 12:03:11 AM
no, I am on the laptop.  It's the "Europa League Pregame Show" now.  I will see if I can post direct link

https://www.foxsportsgo.com/channel/36770/fox-sports-2

Not included in my subscription after all that. Thanks anyway. @Audrey Horne (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=725) stream working nicely.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 15, 2017, 12:05:11 AM
Fucking shite.

Do we have any interest in having the ball under Koeman.

Oh and Rooney on the left. Good one
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 15, 2017, 12:05:13 AM
Not included in my subscription after all that. Thanks anyway. @Audrey Horne (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=725) stream working nicely.

I shall shake my fist at clouds for you.  Forgot how awful your cable company is.  Move to NC, we will get a pint and bitch about things.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 15, 2017, 12:05:21 AM
Under the cosh straight away. Not good signs.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 15, 2017, 12:06:23 AM
Classic has already taken the ball in tight spaces between the lines 3+ times, makes a massive difference
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 15, 2017, 12:06:30 AM
great touch by Vlasic at the edge of our own box.

so composed.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 15, 2017, 12:07:12 AM
FFS Keane.. poor that.

And why do our defender just stop when they get the ball ? They show no impetus and the whole team just goes nowhere.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 15, 2017, 12:07:56 AM
Like Besic does get his head up and look for a forward pass. Something we could use from that position.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 15, 2017, 12:08:01 AM
Pitch is awful
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Escla on September 15, 2017, 12:08:18 AM
We look rattled, not playing with any confidence whatsoever and Jags needs to change his studs.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 15, 2017, 12:08:28 AM
Alexi Lalas, recounting a conversation he recently had with an Everton supporter describing the current squad: "weak, tactically inept, and soulless."

Lalas on how we've tried to replace Lukaku "sometimes 4 quarters doesn't make a dollar."

Ouch.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: hannu on September 15, 2017, 12:08:28 AM
no one even remotely near the wings, all the attacking players are central
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Trowel on September 15, 2017, 12:08:30 AM
Well up for this.

Aren't they.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 15, 2017, 12:08:39 AM
Like Besic does get his head up and look for a forward pass. Something we could use from that position.

Schneider Lin used to, not sure why he's stopped
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 15, 2017, 12:08:58 AM
Besic is going to be the man, we seriously miss a midfielder who can pass the ball forwards.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 15, 2017, 12:09:14 AM
Pitch is awful

Imagine how shit the "sub-UEFA standard" ground must be...
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 15, 2017, 12:09:21 AM
Get the ball to Calvert Lewin in behind.

That's all we've got
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 15, 2017, 12:09:47 AM
no one even remotely near the wings, all the attacking players are central

Our formation is the "Charlie Brown Christmas Tree"
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 15, 2017, 12:10:58 AM
Koeman's tactics are bollocks. You can tell the players have no confidence or belief in the way they are played...
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 15, 2017, 12:12:05 AM
We look so low on confidence, we really need the first goal here
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 15, 2017, 12:13:16 AM
fucks wrong with Schneiderlin, why does he dive in every match in the first ten mins and get booked... lucky he didnt get booked then.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Trowel on September 15, 2017, 12:13:24 AM
Some decent football at last, even then we look like we're in second gear.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 15, 2017, 12:13:42 AM
12 minutes before a shot on goal must be our best so far this season?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 15, 2017, 12:14:02 AM
No skill on show whatsoever. Every pass is the obvious one. So bloody boring.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 15, 2017, 12:14:02 AM
Effort Wayne !
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 15, 2017, 12:14:13 AM
good idea by Wayne
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 15, 2017, 12:14:30 AM
Vlasic (sp?) looks alright
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Trowel on September 15, 2017, 12:14:44 AM
Look at Beckeanebauer stepping up.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: hannu on September 15, 2017, 12:15:02 AM
not far over that from rooney
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 15, 2017, 12:16:07 AM
GET UP THE PITCH !
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 15, 2017, 12:16:09 AM
Can't throw a good tackle in anymore. Fuckin jessies game!
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 15, 2017, 12:16:13 AM
we are in the match now at least
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: hannu on September 15, 2017, 12:16:37 AM
had more shots in this than the whole prem campaign so far
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 15, 2017, 12:17:20 AM
Jags such an improvement already.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 15, 2017, 12:17:51 AM
There were a couple of little intricate bits between all of our No.10s.

Is that Koeman's master plan?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blargins on September 15, 2017, 12:18:25 AM
Holgate so much better than Cucu
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 15, 2017, 12:18:27 AM
Holgate won't be fooled by such nonsense.  I hate this Gomez fucker already.  Annoying little shit.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blob on September 15, 2017, 12:19:01 AM
plenty of moaning, but i see us steadily playing our way into this...

...on the other hand :(
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 15, 2017, 12:19:05 AM
Good tackle again!
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 15, 2017, 12:19:42 AM
plenty of moaning, but i see us steadily playing our way into this...

Early doors - just warming up.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 15, 2017, 12:19:47 AM
These are so well drilled

Movement is excellent, it's a good job they're not very skilful really
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 15, 2017, 12:19:47 AM
The defenders cant be taking the ball off the keeper on the edge of the area. We just get pressed and struggle to get it forward.

They'd be better pushing out and and keeper playing it long to DCL.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 15, 2017, 12:20:49 AM
lol @ the pitch.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: duncandisorderly on September 15, 2017, 12:20:49 AM
Vlasic is doing well
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 15, 2017, 12:23:22 AM
Koeman looks homicidally angry
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 15, 2017, 12:23:32 AM
BT sport are giving DCL all starts of abuse
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 15, 2017, 12:23:43 AM
http://cricfree.sc/watch/live/atalanta-bc-vs-everton-live-streaming
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: brap2 on September 15, 2017, 12:23:58 AM
Streeeeeeaaaams
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 15, 2017, 12:24:38 AM
Feel so much for Baines... gets fuck all support on the left wing.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 15, 2017, 12:24:48 AM
What is sigurdsons role exactly?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 15, 2017, 12:24:51 AM
Koeman looks homicidally angry
He's been reading on here.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 12:25:02 AM
Fucking hell this is dull. You can actually see us link play quite well but theres no go forwards after that. Its painful to watch.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 15, 2017, 12:25:21 AM
BT official free stream:
www.sport.bt.com/watch-the-europa-league-for-free-01364171999153?s_intcid=con_HTWF_ATA-EVE
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: hannu on September 15, 2017, 12:25:50 AM
What is sigurdsons role exactly?

freekicks and fuck all else
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: duncandisorderly on September 15, 2017, 12:26:11 AM
Streeeeeeaaaams
btsport.com in the uk
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 15, 2017, 12:26:41 AM
Piss poor game this
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 15, 2017, 12:26:50 AM
BT sport are giving DCL all starts of abuse

They used to do the same with Lukaku.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 12:26:54 AM
What is sigurdsons role exactly?

Gareth Barry style playmaker (without the defensive quality)
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 15, 2017, 12:27:04 AM
Sorry none of the stream posted works - any iPad ones?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Trowel on September 15, 2017, 12:27:09 AM
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/7c/a6/62/7ca662326b8d116ae8cc4467db2d97c2--humor.jpg)
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 15, 2017, 12:27:09 AM
Deserve that, awful
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 15, 2017, 12:27:11 AM
Ffs
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 15, 2017, 12:27:16 AM
Shit
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 15, 2017, 12:27:20 AM
BT sport are giving DCL all starts of abuse

what exactly is he supposed to be doing with no service, the ball barely in the attacking zone at all?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 15, 2017, 12:27:20 AM
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeet that was close !
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 15, 2017, 12:27:26 AM
Was coming.

Shame after a great save.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 15, 2017, 12:27:41 AM
There we go
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blargins on September 15, 2017, 12:27:43 AM
Jesus first goal they've scored in Europe since 1991 and it's against us.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 15, 2017, 12:27:50 AM
There it is. FFS.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 15, 2017, 12:27:55 AM
Is it even worth bothering with the remaining hour?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Gumpinio on September 15, 2017, 12:27:56 AM
shit, can't see us getting two
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 15, 2017, 12:27:57 AM
fuck's sake
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 15, 2017, 12:28:05 AM
we are fucking awful
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 15, 2017, 12:28:22 AM
awesome save then goal ;/
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 12:28:34 AM
We are genuinely shite.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Martip on September 15, 2017, 12:28:39 AM
Ffs we need to do so much better than this. This team sold their best players in the summer  :headbang:
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 15, 2017, 12:28:46 AM
Loving this formation. Really suits us.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 15, 2017, 12:28:50 AM
Jesus first goal they've scored in Europe since 1991 and it's against us.

When a team or a player desperately needs a goal...come play us.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 15, 2017, 12:28:54 AM
Defense = Shambles.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: hannu on September 15, 2017, 12:29:17 AM
shit, can't see us getting two

cant see us getting 1
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 15, 2017, 12:29:38 AM
He's not gonna miss that x 10 from Sutton... bellend.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 15, 2017, 12:29:49 AM
Ill be going early doors with a Koeman out shout tonight.

Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bluenuck on September 15, 2017, 12:29:50 AM
Are we really this bad?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Martip on September 15, 2017, 12:30:13 AM
Defense = Shambles.
Team/formation = shambles
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 15, 2017, 12:30:35 AM
Beginning to feel for the players here, there's no system or plan at all
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 15, 2017, 12:30:40 AM
Ill be going early doors with a Koeman out shout tonight.

He's probably thinking the same himself
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on September 15, 2017, 12:30:42 AM
We have assembled loads of decent players, but a dog shit team
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 15, 2017, 12:30:48 AM
Streeeeeeaaaams

Live on BT website for free.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 15, 2017, 12:31:15 AM
Defense = Shambles.

i dont blame the defence at all, i blame the fact we can not retain possession, so many of our goals conceded this year would have been prevented if we could have kept the ball, instead of wave of wave of attacks from the opposition.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 15, 2017, 12:31:15 AM
Team/formation = shambles

Manager = Shambles
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 12:31:19 AM
Need to just play our wingers. They might not be our best players but you just cant play like this and hope to create a goal threat
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 15, 2017, 12:31:41 AM
Why the fuck do we look terrified? No movement whatsoever, absolute shambles
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 15, 2017, 12:31:48 AM
We look a mess.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Escla on September 15, 2017, 12:32:09 AM
We're in for another mullering from the Italian equivalent of Huddersfield.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 12:32:20 AM
We have assembled loads of decent players, but a dog shit team

Bit like a fantasy football team. We just took loads of players with decent individual stats
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on September 15, 2017, 12:32:46 AM
Seen loads of horrible defensive teams over the years. But they had at least some plan for the final third. We have been horrific to watch past few games
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 15, 2017, 12:32:48 AM
Anyone else's BT stream keep looping the same action ?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 15, 2017, 12:32:58 AM
We should be 3 down.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Martip on September 15, 2017, 12:33:06 AM
This is so bad it's embarrasing
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 15, 2017, 12:33:07 AM
Could and should easily be 3 down
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 15, 2017, 12:33:12 AM
Very worrying to see a team play like this so early into the season.

It's very reminiscent of a team playing that's lost all faith in the manager.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 15, 2017, 12:33:25 AM
Lol if Jamokachi could see the body language of our players now...
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 12:33:31 AM
Sigurdsson is crap. 45 fucking million
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 15, 2017, 12:34:18 AM
I'd take a 2-0 loss now and move onto weekend. Where I'd take another 2-0 loss.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 15, 2017, 12:34:22 AM
The most frustrating bit is that they don't look motivated.

I could take this shit football if we were throwing ourselves into it, but we're just meandering through games at the minute
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: hannu on September 15, 2017, 12:34:30 AM
koeman hasnt got a clue, this is worse than martinez
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Tofifee on September 15, 2017, 12:34:41 AM
Why isn't gylfi playing ........?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 15, 2017, 12:34:54 AM
i dont blame the defence at all, i blame the fact we can not retain possession, so many of our goals conceded this year would have been prevented if we could have kept the ball, instead of wave of wave of attacks from the opposition.

All that and a bag of chips when the players can't be arsed to fight for the ball/shirt/team. Shambles.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 15, 2017, 12:34:58 AM
I read up all day on the power of positive thought as well.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 15, 2017, 12:35:02 AM
Seriously...WTF.

We need a major reorganization.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 15, 2017, 12:35:27 AM
Playing 3 No 10's leaves us with no width whatsoever. Who'd have thought it hey.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on September 15, 2017, 12:35:28 AM
koeman hasnt got a clue, this is worse than martinez

This game in isolation is yes
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Trowel on September 15, 2017, 12:35:31 AM
Anyone else's BT stream keep looping the same action ?
It's doing that on the live broadcast too - the same footage of Atalanta being allowed to walk into our box, followed by us trying to blatt it out to DCL and failing, then repeats back to the Atalanta attack. About 35 mins of it so far.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 15, 2017, 12:35:36 AM
We've got no ideas at all. I can't see us thinking about looking like scoring.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 12:36:14 AM
Every time we get it into midfield we put our foot on it and knock it sidewards. Theres nothing in terms of attacking threat.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: hannu on September 15, 2017, 12:36:41 AM
This game in isolation is yes

have u not seen the other games this season?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 15, 2017, 12:36:48 AM
Almost beyond words how shit this is.

No clue, no urgency, no drive.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 15, 2017, 12:37:05 AM
Fans over there deserve better, cost a fortune and the players dont turn up, absolute shite we are
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: christiffa25 on September 15, 2017, 12:37:27 AM
No striker
No wingers
No style of play
No tactics
Average manager

Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: hannu on September 15, 2017, 12:38:01 AM
am putting a tenner on us not getting out the group stage
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 15, 2017, 12:38:32 AM
Every time we get it into midfield we put our foot on it and knock it sidewards. Theres nothing in terms of attacking threat.

Which is hilarious given that we're playing 3 'creative' players and no wingers
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 12:38:47 AM
am putting a tenner on us not getting out the group stage

Youll make about 6 quid
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 15, 2017, 12:38:55 AM
We need to take some hard drugs at half time
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Fynci on September 15, 2017, 12:39:21 AM
I am struggling to recall a worse 37 minutes of football
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 12:39:29 AM
Sluggish, flat, shit - again
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 12:39:41 AM
Which is hilarious given that we're playing 3 'creative' players and no wingers

None of them are running beyond though. They all want to drop off and pick out them flying wingers or feed it into our targetman.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: hannu on September 15, 2017, 12:39:41 AM
Youll make about 6 quid
its a certain £6 richer
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 15, 2017, 12:39:46 AM
Playing 3 No 10's leaves us with no width whatsoever. Who'd have thought it hey.

Used to smoke Number Tens they were shite as well.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Escla on September 15, 2017, 12:39:51 AM
We are totally devoid of ball skills.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 15, 2017, 12:39:55 AM
Koeman just looking on. Lost. Not shouting, not changing things. Just Moysing it out.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Faceatthefence on September 15, 2017, 12:40:09 AM
This truly is a rudderless ship boys and girls.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on September 15, 2017, 12:40:30 AM
have u not seen the other games this season?

I seen us beat stoke and almost win city. Don't be so short sighted, martinez area was terrible. And he had a striker
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 15, 2017, 12:40:47 AM
Besic you fucking pleb lolol
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blob on September 15, 2017, 12:41:05 AM
great goal...bastard,
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Trowel on September 15, 2017, 12:41:14 AM
Could see that coming as soon as he was allowed to cut onto his right, cracking strike.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 15, 2017, 12:41:41 AM
Well crap.

Utterly deserved though. We're solidly crap, although that was a nice goal.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 15, 2017, 12:41:42 AM
:'(
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 15, 2017, 12:41:43 AM
Worldie that like
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 15, 2017, 12:41:56 AM
Tempted to say something doesn't look right here. Players don't look that arsed. Worrying that we're 9 games into the season and we look so flat. Again.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Danny on September 15, 2017, 12:41:57 AM
Great player Gomez, only been watching this 15 minutes but we've been shocking, that and i'm gutted we aren't just starting the best team.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 15, 2017, 12:41:58 AM
We are not very good are we?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 12:42:03 AM
That's what a proper number 10 can do, we've got three who can't do that
How long is it gonna be this bad, this is fucking awful another game dead before half time
Fuck Koeman he's useless
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 15, 2017, 12:42:12 AM
I am struggling to recall a worse 37 minutes of football

Koeman has erased all memory of Spurs.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 15, 2017, 12:42:13 AM
Easy, just to easy and deserved
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bluenuck on September 15, 2017, 12:42:31 AM
It's just so fuckin easy for other teams and so fuckin hard for us.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 15, 2017, 12:42:38 AM
Fuck off Stekekenberg!
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: hannu on September 15, 2017, 12:42:40 AM
I seen us beat stoke and almost win city. Don't be so short sighted, martinez area was terrible. And he had a striker

we didnt beat city tho and time to turn this match off, we are shite and no chance of even getting a point, fucking embarrasing
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 12:42:47 AM
Theres another. Can we please stop this nonsense that our start is because of the quality of teams weve played. Weve played some bang average sides this season and look shite almost every half of every game
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 15, 2017, 12:42:56 AM
Problem is, I wasn't confident we'd even get the one goal back.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 15, 2017, 12:43:18 AM
11 subs at half time please
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Escla on September 15, 2017, 12:43:40 AM
Gutted that I have booked a non refundable flight and hotel to Lyon.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 15, 2017, 12:43:41 AM
what a goal
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: TheTone on September 15, 2017, 12:43:53 AM
How shit is schneiderlin?

Anyone got big sams number?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Trowel on September 15, 2017, 12:43:58 AM
Jesus Christ.

Make it stop.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blob on September 15, 2017, 12:44:03 AM
fucking 3....
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 12:44:09 AM
I seen us beat stoke and almost win city. Don't be so short sighted, martinez area was terrible. And he had a striker

We werent any better than Stoke and we were utterly cowardly 2nd half against 10 man City. Been absolutely shite. Not quite Martinez standard but shite
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Gash on September 15, 2017, 12:44:14 AM
That's a fucking disgrace.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 15, 2017, 12:44:16 AM
JOKE.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 12:44:22 AM
Fucking embarrassing again
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blargins on September 15, 2017, 12:44:32 AM
Fuck off Everton
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 15, 2017, 12:44:36 AM
Oh
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 15, 2017, 12:44:46 AM
oh my fucking god
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Bwana on September 15, 2017, 12:44:47 AM
Good night.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KevtheRat on September 15, 2017, 12:45:01 AM
The players should refund the flight money of anyone daft enough to fly out there for this
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: hannu on September 15, 2017, 12:45:12 AM
Gutted that I have booked a non refundable flight and hotel to Lyon.

glad i havent booked mine, this is brilliant 3-0
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bigac on September 15, 2017, 12:45:15 AM
Cant watch this anymore, I'm out. Wish Koeman would follow.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Robioto on September 15, 2017, 12:45:17 AM
Fuck me these notifications are making the last night of my holiday more miserable than it should be. Three fucking nil. Useless, absolutely useless.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 12:45:21 AM
Fucking hell this is terrbile. They have pace and they have runners. Its like some sort of fucking witchcraft
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: brap2 on September 15, 2017, 12:45:22 AM
Live on BT website for free.

Finally got it working and we're getting our heads bummed in.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Zoolander on September 15, 2017, 12:45:40 AM
Glad I'm missing this
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 15, 2017, 12:45:41 AM
commentator says its a horror night, nope its been like that every match,
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: School of Science on September 15, 2017, 12:45:49 AM
Embarrassment, ashamed of my team. Koeman just fuck off
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 15, 2017, 12:45:57 AM
sack the fat cunt
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 12:46:00 AM
How shit is schneiderlin?

Anyone got big sams number?

Have to agree another one of the clowns shit signings
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: hannu on September 15, 2017, 12:46:11 AM
can we get rid of koeman now please,
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 15, 2017, 12:46:12 AM
That's an utter embarrassment.

Players, Koeman should be utterly ashamed.

Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Bwana on September 15, 2017, 12:46:17 AM
How the ffff is that possible? It's the same kind of goal we conceded last weekend.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 15, 2017, 12:46:20 AM
Yeah. Something is wrong within.

We had a whole window and we cocked it up.

Even Keane is looking average and he isnt.

Man united next.

Its a good job I dont care much about football these days.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 15, 2017, 12:46:25 AM
It's the kit
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on September 15, 2017, 12:46:29 AM
I fucking hate everton. How can you go into a season without a striker and wingers.

PASSIVERTON
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: YellowHold on September 15, 2017, 12:46:36 AM
Pathetic this, we're finding a way to be even worse every game.

Absolutely nothing in this side now we've taken Lukaku out of it.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bluestevie on September 15, 2017, 12:46:48 AM
Not knee jerking cos of what's happening right now but I'd serious sack Koeman tonight, he's fucked up too many times already this season
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Ross on September 15, 2017, 12:46:49 AM
Abysmal
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 15, 2017, 12:46:54 AM
Barring some sort of miracle in the second half Koeman's job must surely be under threat after this?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 12:47:08 AM
sack the fat cunt

Cost us 12M to go with the 18 Martinez got. We could have treated ourselves to a reasonable striker with that
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blargins on September 15, 2017, 12:47:09 AM
Glad I'm missing this

So is Steklenburg.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Bally on September 15, 2017, 12:47:47 AM
Seriously, what the fuck is going on
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 15, 2017, 12:47:54 AM
Barring some sort of miracle in the second half Koeman's job must surely be under threat after this?

Lose against united and he'll quit
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: charlatan on September 15, 2017, 12:48:00 AM
Time for him to go.  Summer has been a fucking shambles
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Faceatthefence on September 15, 2017, 12:48:10 AM
Ouch,fucking ouch!
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Redartin on September 15, 2017, 12:48:13 AM
Why do you think they'll dominate the ball? They look shite

Just to clarify, you were talking about the Italian team?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 15, 2017, 12:48:23 AM
Lose against united and he'll quit

shut up will he fuck
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Shogun on September 15, 2017, 12:48:27 AM
Could have played better that half.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bluenuck on September 15, 2017, 12:49:05 AM
Pace pace pace. Width width width.

We have none of it, and it just may well be our demise this season.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: TheTone on September 15, 2017, 12:49:10 AM
you know things are bad when @Realist (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6621) is liking ya posts
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: duncandisorderly on September 15, 2017, 12:49:13 AM
Awful and embarrassing
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 15, 2017, 12:49:20 AM
He will walk I reckon.

While he has to take some of the blame I think the board and whoever is in charge of transfers have failed him.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 12:49:24 AM
Yeah. Something is wrong within.

We had a whole window and we cocked it up.

Even Keane is looking average and he isnt.

Man united next.

Its a good job I dont care much about football these days.

Im not impressed with keane. Likes to stand and watch. Been no better than some of the players who have been getting slagged off on here. We should have signed Harry McGuire for half the price
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 15, 2017, 12:49:41 AM
Whole balance of the team is just all wrong. The defence look woeful but our midfield is paper thin, and this considering we're actually playing two DMs. It doesn't work having Rooney running deep and all over the place. Nothing, absolutely nothing in attack. DCL barely in the game.

Pick one of Rooney/Sigurdsson/Klaassen. I really, really want Rooney to come out of this team though...or play him as a forward. Play some wingers.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Silas on September 15, 2017, 12:49:56 AM
Shambles, fucking shambles
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 15, 2017, 12:50:02 AM
How can you play with not an ounce of width and pace.

He has fallen out with every winger at the club.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 12:50:08 AM
Lose against united and he'll quit

Not a chance hes going without his massive pay off
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 12:50:12 AM
Barring some sort of miracle in the second half Koeman's job must surely be under threat after this?

We have nothing ir no one in the first team who can turn a game around never mind on the bench
This is fucking crap
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blargins on September 15, 2017, 12:50:15 AM
I want Donald fucking Trump in as manager. He'd sack the fucking lot of them.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 15, 2017, 12:50:35 AM
Obviously Koeman needs to take some of the blame but the players can't pass 10 yards to each other. He can't get out there and kick the fucking ball for them!
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 15, 2017, 12:50:39 AM
Why would he walk and cost himself ££££££?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Redartin on September 15, 2017, 12:50:48 AM
Barring some sort of miracle in the second half Koeman's job must surely be under threat after this?

We usually only play 45 min games anyway, so who knows, And he did say he was taking this competition serious.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on September 15, 2017, 12:50:51 AM
How can you play with not an ounce of width and pace.

He has fallen out with every winger at the club.

All one of them
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 15, 2017, 12:51:02 AM
Horrifying thing is we dont have the players to come in to turn it around
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 12:51:09 AM
you know things are bad when @Realist (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6621) is liking ya posts

Another of my fans x
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Escla on September 15, 2017, 12:51:25 AM
Can't wait for Sunday against a really good team , I defended Martinez up untill a couple of months before he went, have never called for a managers head so sincerely as I do now for Koemans, he and his brother
really couldn't give a shit, all they will do after this is blame the players again.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 15, 2017, 12:51:32 AM
I clearly don't know what goes on internally but if you were to look at any group of players and say they weren't motivated then these would be them.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 15, 2017, 12:51:36 AM
Oops, wrong player - I meant GOMEZ!

DeBoer will be on the phone to Bill.......
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: brittcop1 on September 15, 2017, 12:51:41 AM
Not knee jerking cos of what's happening right now but I'd serious sack Koeman tonight, he's fucked up too many times already this season

OMFG! This is so embarrassing. Clearly after a month the players are not up for working for this guy. We chase a guy all summer, spend 45 million on him and then play him out of position. We are RUDDERLESS and Koeman will never admit it...I hope MOSHIRI sees it!
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 12:51:54 AM
He will walk I reckon.

While he has to take some of the blame I think the board and whoever is in charge of transfers have failed him.

I really dont. I think he decides on the first team players and hes far too inflexable.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Faceatthefence on September 15, 2017, 12:52:05 AM
 :titanic:
Not knee jerking cos of what's happening right now but I'd serious sack Koeman tonight, he's fucked up too many times already this season
Im desperate to believe that wouldnt happen,but honestly right now the whole board must be seriously doubting the mans overall credibility.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blargins on September 15, 2017, 12:52:16 AM
We usually only play 45 min games anyway, so who knows, And he did say he was taking this competition serious.

Trouble is, that was our good 45.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: everton1952 on September 15, 2017, 12:52:20 AM
Awful all round. Calvert Lewin a number 9? Clueless, can't pass can't hold the ball. The midfield? The fullbacks, Holgate, since when was he a fullback? Our wingers, Oh we don't have any.   Nobody on the bench except 2nd raters. Big Duncan's face said it all. Koeman may not  recover from this wreckage. Walsh? Where are the key signings apart from two?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 15, 2017, 12:52:30 AM
lots of over reactions on the last few pages,... this performance and the result shouldnt be surprising... every match this season we have done the same..

im not even angry or have negative emotions at all, i was resigned to getting hammered, same as i am v man utd,

Aslong as Koeman insists on playing this formation, we will get destroyed.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 12:53:02 AM
We usually only play 45 min games anyway, so who knows, And he did say he was taking this competition serious.

Lets hope the 1st half was our bad half
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 15, 2017, 12:53:11 AM
Why would he walk and cost himself ££££££?

He won't. No manager quits anymore for that reason.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 12:53:17 AM
Were we ever this bad under Martinez?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Bally on September 15, 2017, 12:53:32 AM
Lose against united and he'll quit
Fingers crossed....








That's a joke I never want us to lose


He's a fucking joke with these tactics no fight or passion we don't look like scoring and haven't done so for the last three games
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blargins on September 15, 2017, 12:53:48 AM
Were we ever this bad under Martinez?

We were, yes.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Paddockoldie on September 15, 2017, 12:53:55 AM
I consider myself a pretty diehard blue but I think I'm done. I'll forgive one roll over that lacks passion and fight, but 2 and against a side like these? Nah not having that. Sadly Koeman doesn't know his best 11. Maybe we haven't got 11 good one's but this is shite. Thing is, where do we go from here? I seriously don't know anymore. RIP EVERTON
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 15, 2017, 12:54:09 AM
Fuck it, sack him and promote Rhino until January
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 15, 2017, 12:54:18 AM
He won't. No manager quits anymore for that reason.

I know mate, it was to those saying he'll walk!
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 15, 2017, 12:54:24 AM
Sack him. We aren't improving at all.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: brap2 on September 15, 2017, 12:54:55 AM
Im not impressed with keane. Likes to stand and watch. Been no better than some of the players who have been getting slagged off on here. We should have signed Harry McGuire for half the price

He's garbage
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 12:55:46 AM
Sigurdsson is a bang average player. So is Rooney now but he was cheap and we were blinded by sentiment. What the fuck were we thinking chasing Sigurdsson for so long and for such ridiculous money.

Weve signed a playmaker who cant actually make any play.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 15, 2017, 12:55:52 AM
Anyone got Tuchel's number?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on September 15, 2017, 12:55:59 AM
Just walked in. Seems to be going well. Anyone want to sum up?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on September 15, 2017, 12:56:10 AM
We need the derby to come quick, we usually get beat in the derby then go on a little run of wins.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: D_murph0278 on September 15, 2017, 12:56:20 AM
Yet another game where he tears his tactics up at half time and tries something else. He must have done it every game this season. He's fucking making it up as he goes along, and he's pissed the most important transfer window in everton's history, up the wall!
He'll be gone before Barkley!! How ironic is that.
Embarrassing.....
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 12:56:28 AM
We were, yes.

That's debatable at best and I'm being generous to you
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 15, 2017, 12:56:40 AM
Just walked in. Seems to be going well. Anyone want to sum up?

Go back out
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 15, 2017, 12:56:53 AM
Anyone got Tuchel's number?

He's just gone ex-directory.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 15, 2017, 12:56:55 AM
Just walked in. Seems to be going well. Anyone want to sum up?

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Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 15, 2017, 12:56:58 AM
https://twitter.com/philmcnulty/status/908383198320750592
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Martip on September 15, 2017, 12:57:10 AM
We were, yes.
Debatable and he did not havecresources this clown has had.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: everton1952 on September 15, 2017, 12:57:15 AM
sum up? I can't find the words.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 15, 2017, 12:58:00 AM
We need the derby to come quick, we usually get beat in the derby then go on a little run of wins.

Can genuinely see us getting beat about 37-0 at their place tbh
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on September 15, 2017, 12:58:00 AM
PASSIVERTON PASSIVERTON PASSIVERTON
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 15, 2017, 12:58:07 AM
Need Davies in the side, at least he had a bit of fight and passion.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 15, 2017, 12:58:09 AM
Can it get any worse...

Don't answer that
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 15, 2017, 12:58:24 AM
I'm thinking of walking down to our shop and buying a case of Guinness and breaking my duck.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 15, 2017, 12:58:27 AM
Were we ever this bad under Martinez?

Worse.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 15, 2017, 12:58:37 AM
Atalanta are fucking awful as well.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 12:58:44 AM
I consider myself a pretty diehard blue but I think I'm done. I'll forgive one roll over that lacks passion and fight, but 2 and against a side like these? Nah not having that. Sadly Koeman doesn't know his best 11. Maybe we haven't got 11 good one's but this is shite. Thing is, where do we go from here? I seriously don't know anymore. RIP EVERTON

Its not quite Martinez bad (yet) but its a chore to watch us again. It shouldnt have to be an effort to watch 2 hours of our team. This is meant to be our enjoyment
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on September 15, 2017, 12:59:02 AM
Lost for words really. We look devoid of any ideas.

I have seen nothing, in any of our games this season, to suggest we have any kind of system.

That Gomez looks some player.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on September 15, 2017, 12:59:07 AM
This could be Rapid Bucharest bad .

Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 15, 2017, 12:59:13 AM
I'm thinking of walking down to our shop and buying a case of Guinness and breaking my duck.

Typo, right?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 15, 2017, 12:59:21 AM
if we take off dcl / besic and bring on sandro and  and Klassen, we'd have 5 number 10s on the pitch ... .. i guess he bought them all thinking,, they will score 10 goals each and make up for lukaku.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 15, 2017, 12:59:44 AM
Typo, right?

Huh?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GoodisonPk on September 15, 2017, 12:59:47 AM
How many years is Koemans contract? Serious question.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 15, 2017, 12:59:50 AM
Atalanta are fucking awful as well.

I'm not disagreeing that we're shit, but Atalanta aren't awful.

Not sure we'd finish 4th in Serie A
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 15, 2017, 12:59:54 AM
Just walked in. Seems to be going well. Anyone want to sum up?

Gomez all over The Addams Family mate.

Carramba!
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 15, 2017, 01:00:04 AM
Did anything happen while the handyman came over to give me an estimate?

OH SWEET CHRIST.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Bally on September 15, 2017, 01:00:08 AM
He will walk I reckon.

While he has to take some of the blame I think the board and whoever is in charge of transfers have failed him.
Have they though, one striker doesn't make the team, we should have enough to win games, the last 3 games have been shite, the whole season has been shite, we won ugly to begin with but we are fucking shite, I'm beginning to get worried, and I've never been worried this early on, we have fucking nothing and even Lukaku would have struggled.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 01:00:12 AM
Just walked in. Seems to be going well. Anyone want to sum up?

They have pace, width, movement. Its genuinely some sort of witchcraft. We get it into midfield put our foot on it and knock it sidewards
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Bwana on September 15, 2017, 01:00:20 AM
Obviously Koeman needs to take some of the blame but the players can't pass 10 yards to each other. He can't get out there and kick the fucking ball for them!

That too but like it's been said, we're way too narrow and do get punished for that in every match. No hold up play either 'cos everyone is being dragged to our own end to defend the middle. And despite this narrowness teams are just walking through our two DMCs.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 15, 2017, 01:00:28 AM
Calm folks it's a 3 year project.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 15, 2017, 01:00:30 AM
I also think he is thinking ahead that Bolasie and Coleman will be back around Christmas, but they will not be their best untill the season after.

The transfer window started great but due to how it ended it is now a shambles.

Also, why the fuck do you need to rest a goalkeeper?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: School of Science on September 15, 2017, 01:00:45 AM
So is this just damage limitation now, fuck me we have United away on Sunday, we've made these looks like Real Madrid, teams must be praying to play us right now.

The sad thing is Koeman seems to learn fuck all from these performances, six more changes tonight, the players must feel like strangers. No width, no pace no invention, formation fucked.

Don't think I've ever been a knee jerked but Koeman / this expensively assembled team needs to start showing things.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: hannu on September 15, 2017, 01:00:57 AM
I'm not disagreeing that we're shit, but Atalanta aren't awful.

Not sure we'd finish 4th in Serie A

am not sure we would finnish 4th in serie b
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 15, 2017, 01:01:10 AM
Wow. No changes at HT?!?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Running Blue on September 15, 2017, 01:01:20 AM
My apologies.  I thought kick-off was at 8pm.  I missed the first half.  I am watching now, so we should be able to turn this around.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Trowel on September 15, 2017, 01:01:35 AM
More touches in the box in the first 30 seconds than the entire first half.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 15, 2017, 01:01:40 AM
No changes???

Is he fucking mental???
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: D_murph0278 on September 15, 2017, 01:01:47 AM
Sigurdsson is a bang average player. So is Rooney now but he was cheap and we were blinded by sentiment. What the fuck were we thinking chasing Sigurdsson for so long and for such ridiculous money.

Weve signed a playmaker who cant actually make any play.

It's no good having a playmaker on the edge of his own box all game.
We have absolutely nothing going forward. No pace, no willing runners.
If Barkley and Davies were in the side, along with Lookman.... it would make a hell of a difference, taking the pressure off, wanting the ball, getting us up the pitch. Instead we have a team full of Jack Rodwells in my eyes! Sigurdsson, Klassen, Schneiderlen, whoever....
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 01:01:52 AM
How many years is Koemans contract? Serious question.

This season and next
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 15, 2017, 01:01:57 AM
Calm folks it's a 3 year project.

We couldn't score 3 in three years
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 01:02:07 AM
I'm not disagreeing that we're shit, but Atalanta aren't awful.

Not sure we'd finish 4th in Serie A

No we'd get relegated
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on September 15, 2017, 01:02:20 AM
To think Stek gets a game before Robles . Oh dear dear me .
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: everton1952 on September 15, 2017, 01:02:27 AM
Disagree, Atalanta are a decent side. That is all I want to say.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 15, 2017, 01:03:04 AM
No changes???

Is he fucking mental???

No

Just shit
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 15, 2017, 01:03:08 AM
Have they though, one striker doesn't make the team, we should have enough to win games, the last 3 games have been shite, the whole season has been shite, we won ugly to begin with but we are fucking shite, I'm beginning to get worried, and I've never been worried this early on, we have fucking nothing and even Lukaku would have struggled.

I just maybe feel along the lines that we know Koeman doesn't actively get involved in transfers that they have failed him again.

He wanted 4 players at the end of last seasons window and we ended up with Valencia on loan.

He was vocal about wanting a striker and cover for a left sided CB this window and we ended up with Vlasic, an unproven quantity.

Not saying the team still should be playing better but I feel whoever is in charge of negotiations still did not learn their lesson from last season.

Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 01:03:58 AM
Lookman should be playing every game now. He'll have some good games and some dreadful games but weve fucking no other option well other than this wingerless shite we are currently producing

Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blargins on September 15, 2017, 01:04:19 AM
That's debatable at best and I'm being generous to you

Martinez was awful. I know it's crap at the moment, and it could well go crap to Martinez standards, but there's a littie way to go yet.

Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 01:04:45 AM
I've turned it off, not worth watching, if you let Everton performances / results affect your moods (which I don't) you should do the same
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 15, 2017, 01:04:50 AM
or Koeman has mentally checked out after he didn't get what he wanted during the transfer window.  I have no idea, but something is seriously fucked.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 15, 2017, 01:04:56 AM
Iv'e not had a drink since Spurs game but just cracked the top,optimistic mood gone back to "sack Davey Koemanez"
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 15, 2017, 01:05:07 AM
If we score twice it's not a disaster. I realise it't not looking likely but I must believe for the moment!
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Fynci on September 15, 2017, 01:05:41 AM
Plot Twist: Barkley's eventual move to Stoke is career progression.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 01:05:47 AM
Keane looks out of his depth. Average defender, crap on the ball with the added danger of thinking hes a good footballer
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GoodisonPk on September 15, 2017, 01:05:56 AM
This season and next

The only positive from tonight. Thought it was a 5 year deal!
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on September 15, 2017, 01:06:17 AM
Just finished work and forgot it was 6pm kickoff. Fucking glad I'm not watching those tossers.

I hope Koeman is under intense scrutiny from the board and that they will make it clear that this is disgraceful from a £125,000 a week manager.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: hannu on September 15, 2017, 01:06:26 AM
anybody else worried we could end up near the relegation zone this season?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 15, 2017, 01:06:44 AM
My stream crashed after 40 mins, then my PC crashed... then Everton crashed.

WTF are you doing Koeman ???

Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 01:07:23 AM
The only positive from tonight. Thought it was a 5 year deal!

What the fuck do we do in the next 3 windows though? Throw another 70 or 80M at crappy 10s at Koemans request
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 15, 2017, 01:07:30 AM
anybody else worried we could end up near the relegation zone this season?
Yes absolutely
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Morta75 on September 15, 2017, 01:07:40 AM
This first half was scary bad... WTF!
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on September 15, 2017, 01:08:12 AM
Just got in, can't say i'm surprised at all

We look dire at the minute, Utd will be a massacre
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Paddockoldie on September 15, 2017, 01:08:20 AM
The Rhino shout's not a bad one.. at least he'd make them know they're playing for Everton.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 15, 2017, 01:08:22 AM
anybody else worried we could end up near the relegation zone this season?

ive been saying as much recently, as i cant see how we will break down teams who finished below us last season,.

just want a manager who can be passionate, with the passion rubbing off on the players.. pretty sure only an evertonian manager could do that :p
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 15, 2017, 01:08:59 AM
Be nice of sigurdson to turn up.

Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blargins on September 15, 2017, 01:09:09 AM
On the bright side, this could be our Istanbul...
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GoodisonPk on September 15, 2017, 01:09:11 AM
What the fuck do we do in the next 3 windows though? Throw another 70 or 80M at crappy 10s at Koemans request

Good point. He can't be trusted with funds that's for sure. I'd pay him out.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 01:09:49 AM
Be nice of sigurdson to turn up.



He'll shine if we get a corner
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 15, 2017, 01:10:16 AM
Kenwright won't sack Koeman, no way.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 15, 2017, 01:10:35 AM
It's pointless singling out individual players, nobody can look good in this system
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 15, 2017, 01:10:37 AM
It's not Sigs fault he's sharing his position with 5 other players.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 01:10:42 AM
Keane's pretty shit really isn't he & to think he cost more than Bonucci went to AC for. LOL
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bluenuck on September 15, 2017, 01:10:43 AM
One massive, obvious problem we have is when we're in possession every player that doesn't have the ball stands around. We could get away with no width and pace if guys just actually made some runs and moved around.

This isn't fucking rocket science.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 15, 2017, 01:11:10 AM
Took us to the fuckin dance....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=15&v=LA3h0FXVDFg
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: DannyR on September 15, 2017, 01:11:12 AM
This is worse than spurs
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 01:11:42 AM
Its controversial but I really dont think DCL is our Harry Kane.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 15, 2017, 01:11:43 AM
Starting to think Rooney and Sigurdsson can't play in the same team. Time to make some big decisions.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 15, 2017, 01:11:54 AM
Siggurdson signing should be a sackable offence on it's own.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 15, 2017, 01:12:08 AM
Awful this.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 15, 2017, 01:12:27 AM
On the bright side, this could be our Istanbul...

...or Sheffield Wednesday.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Robioto on September 15, 2017, 01:12:35 AM
This is worse than spurs

Not watching, are we really that bad again...
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 15, 2017, 01:12:46 AM
Look how simple they make it look.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 15, 2017, 01:12:53 AM
Keane's pretty shit really isn't he & to think he cost more than Bonucci went to AC for. LOL

Shut the fuck up, seriously!
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Bwana on September 15, 2017, 01:13:03 AM
Could've easily been 4-0... And so effortlessly. We're bad. Really bad.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 01:13:48 AM
We're fucked under Koeman, how does it honestly get any better?
The team is a fucking mess
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Escla on September 15, 2017, 01:13:54 AM
Not watching, are we really that bad again...

We are not THAT bad again, we are far worse !
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GoodisonPk on September 15, 2017, 01:14:03 AM
Anyone else happy to concede 5 to make it a proper hammering? I feel a 3-1 loss would just paper over the massive holes Koeman has made in this squad.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: brap2 on September 15, 2017, 01:14:15 AM
Joke team
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 15, 2017, 01:14:21 AM
Just criminal to go into the season how we have, so many points needed addressing.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 01:14:25 AM
Not watching, are we really that bad again...

A lot worse
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 15, 2017, 01:14:35 AM
All of them cant suddenly become bad players. Its a collective issue and that's down to one thing, the manager.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Escla on September 15, 2017, 01:14:48 AM
On the bright side, this could be our Istanbul...

No, more like our Bucharest .
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 15, 2017, 01:14:56 AM
Look how simple they make it look.

It's simple when you play for the manager and the team. Looks like we have a bunch of mercs.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 01:15:00 AM
Shut the fuck up, seriously!

Why bro?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: duncandisorderly on September 15, 2017, 01:16:11 AM
It's not Sigs fault he's sharing his position with 5 other players.
This is it for me, why sign 5 fucking players to play in a similar position, it's negligent.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 15, 2017, 01:16:13 AM
Anyone else happy to concede 5 to make it a proper hammering? I feel a 3-1 loss would just paper over the massive holes Koeman has made in this squad.
I'd suffer 8-0 if some good would come of it.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 01:16:20 AM
Starting to think Rooney and Sigurdsson can't play in the same team. Time to make some big decisions.

The right decision looks to be neither of them
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 15, 2017, 01:16:21 AM
Keane has been fine. Also, why did Schneiderlein leather it at Holgate at the far post when he's being marked?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: DannyR on September 15, 2017, 01:16:29 AM
Not watching, are we really that bad again...
No, we've improved massively. At being totally shit.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: brap2 on September 15, 2017, 01:17:01 AM
It's simple when you play for the manager and the team. Looks like we have a bunch of meffs.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 15, 2017, 01:17:17 AM
Its controversial but I really dont think DCL is our Harry Kane.

I don't think it's controversial at all.

That'd be a million to one shot. Really he's done nothing much to be confident in relying on him as our lone striker for the season. He's been very isolated though and has been mostly reduced to chasing after no hope balls.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bluestevie on September 15, 2017, 01:17:23 AM
Why bro?

Cos you're gloating like an utter bellend, if this was public and not over the Internet you'd be getting laid out right now
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: christiffa25 on September 15, 2017, 01:17:28 AM
Think I'll watch emmerdale
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 01:17:41 AM
Keane has been fine. Also, why did Schneiderlein leather it at Holgate at the far post when he's being marked?

Because he's fucking crap
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on September 15, 2017, 01:18:06 AM
I'm not even exaggerating. Although I'm only half watching the game now. But I genuinely didn't know Gylifi was playing until someone said in here
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 15, 2017, 01:18:17 AM
Cos you're gloating like an utter bellend, if this was public and not over the Internet you'd be getting laid out right now

This
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Martip on September 15, 2017, 01:18:50 AM
Keane has been fine. Also, why did Schneiderlein leather it at Holgate at the far post when he's being marked?
Because he's not very good....
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 15, 2017, 01:19:00 AM
(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/480/mcs/media/images/67940000/jpg/_67940397_martinez2.jpg)
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 15, 2017, 01:19:02 AM
Yay. Another number 10'coming on!
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 01:19:09 AM
How many do we need?? 2 centre halves, left back, another 10, couple of wingers and a striker. 7 more. Done some fantastic business havent we
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: hannu on September 15, 2017, 01:19:11 AM
gylfi is shite
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 15, 2017, 01:19:24 AM
Commentator summed it up there.

150M spent and we are this bad.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on September 15, 2017, 01:19:27 AM
2 subs and not one a winger
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 15, 2017, 01:19:28 AM
Sutton is spot on
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 01:19:40 AM
Cos you're gloating like an utter bellend, if this was public and not over the Internet you'd be getting laid out right now

Not gloating am I? It's a fact he cost more than Bonucci who's 30 times better than him
And laid out by who? Defo not you ye little fart
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 15, 2017, 01:19:53 AM
All of them cant suddenly become bad players. Its a collective issue and that's down to one thing, the manager.
But once again - the manager doesn't tell the players to misplace every fucking pass and make constant poor decisions.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 15, 2017, 01:20:03 AM
Schniderlin has been a bad joke every game so far. Wank.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 15, 2017, 01:20:08 AM
....another two duds coming on.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 01:20:23 AM
I'm not even exaggerating. Although I'm only half watching the game now. But I genuinely didn't know Gylifi was playing until someone said in here

His open play creativity was on a par with Gueyes and Barrys. Its not much of a surprise that hes not much of a playmaker
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 15, 2017, 01:20:26 AM
Summed up in that free kick there, not one player chased the ball down
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: brap2 on September 15, 2017, 01:20:29 AM
gylfi is shite

Mid table free kick merchant.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Faceatthefence on September 15, 2017, 01:20:35 AM
Koeman telling klassen hes sorry for bringing him here,and does he want to nip round and shag his missus
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 15, 2017, 01:20:59 AM
Decent free kick there by Sigurdsson at least. :/
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Ross on September 15, 2017, 01:21:00 AM
The really worry is tonight, like Spurs, like Chelsea we set up to be difficult to beat and we've been far from it.

The first thing a manager tries to do when rescuing a poor run like this is stop looking to be progressive and tighten things up. We're already setting up pretty negative and it's still easy for the opposition so were do you go from there?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on September 15, 2017, 01:21:15 AM
I'm still reserving judgement until January but christ we look gash, even embarrassing at the minute

We're gonna need to improve and fast or we'll be out of everything soon barring the FA cup if we don't
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: kramer0 on September 15, 2017, 01:21:23 AM
Can we go back in time to the beginning of last summer and try this all over again?

What a fucking mess. On the pitch and off.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: MmmblueBernard on September 15, 2017, 01:21:27 AM
I have nothing constructive to say.

I'm out.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 15, 2017, 01:23:00 AM
For the life of me, I can't figure out what's happened with Schneiderlin.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on September 15, 2017, 01:23:17 AM
Klaassen coming on eh?

Pity we don't have any strikers........ lolol
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Martip on September 15, 2017, 01:24:14 AM
Schniderlin has been a bad joke every game so far. Wank.
This is exactly what I've seen....limited player and cant see why people rate him.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Tofifee on September 15, 2017, 01:24:29 AM
Gylfi has been absolutely rubbish since we bought him.RUBBISH
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 15, 2017, 01:25:04 AM
We'll be fine on Sunday, no problems at all
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 15, 2017, 01:25:38 AM
Yeah its crap like but what can we do, hopefully we will get better.

That's where I am at, I don't have anything meaningful to say at all.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Fynci on September 15, 2017, 01:25:47 AM
Does Chris Sutton watch all of our games? He seems super knowledgeable about the problems we're having on the pitch.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GoodisonPk on September 15, 2017, 01:25:50 AM
The really worry is tonight, like Spurs, like Chelsea we set up to be difficult to beat and we've been far from it.

The first thing a manager tries to do when rescuing a poor run like this is stop looking to be progressive and tighten things up. We're already setting up pretty negative and it's still easy for the opposition so were do you go from there?

Yep and to revert to that system as a default you need pace to keep the impact of that formation going. I seriously fear no one knows where this team is headed next.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 15, 2017, 01:26:08 AM
Fucking stop blaming this player or that player, its the whole teams fault ffs
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 15, 2017, 01:26:09 AM
This is exactly what I've seen....limited player and cant see why people rate him.

probably because he was great last season? we're shit but don't be a moron.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Escla on September 15, 2017, 01:26:14 AM
We'll be fine on Sunday, no problems at all

Yup, 3-0 win Everton, Rooney hat trick.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bluestevie on September 15, 2017, 01:26:31 AM
Not gloating am I? It's a fact he cost more than Bonucci who's 30 times better than him
And laid out by who? Defo not you ye little fart

Hahaha that's all you come back with? Try a better insult little boy
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 15, 2017, 01:27:04 AM
Kind of wish we'd lose 7 or 8-0 here and bring things to a head in a game that's not affecting the League.

I'm afraid that's going to be the United game.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on September 15, 2017, 01:27:12 AM
We're what the French call 'les incompetents'
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 01:27:19 AM
Fucking stop blaming this player or that player, its the whole teams fault ffs

Most of them are a bit shit. Fairs fair they are all getting a turn at being blamed
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 15, 2017, 01:27:33 AM
We've had some poor teams in dire financial times but they've still been Everton, this just isn't, i could fucking cry.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on September 15, 2017, 01:28:13 AM
Baines has had enough. No contact with his face there at all
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 15, 2017, 01:28:49 AM
For the life of me, I can't figure out what's happened with Schneiderlin.

Like with Neville & Rooney someone at United knew the score. Howard was alright at first too.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 01:30:06 AM
Hahaha that's all you come back with? Try a better insult little boy

Na I'm just stating a fact, and I'd state it in public too. "Laid out" haha how old are you?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: chang on September 15, 2017, 01:30:20 AM
Will we ever score again ..
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on September 15, 2017, 01:30:21 AM
Hahaha that's all you come back with? Try a better insult little boy

I can see Cheesey Bellwhiff being slung at someone soon .
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Bwana on September 15, 2017, 01:30:36 AM
Decent free kick there by Sigurdsson at least. :/

It was and from the field position where he's really useful. Which then brings to mind: Why don't we have wingers in those areas, resulting free kicks from those areas, more often?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 15, 2017, 01:30:39 AM
We'll end up sacking Koeman and bringing back Moyes, won't we??  :(
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 15, 2017, 01:30:58 AM
We'll end up sacking Koeman and bringing back Moyes, won't we??  :(

no....
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 15, 2017, 01:31:12 AM
It's like Barkley and Lukaku were super pivotal to our attack or something.

The first thing we had to do this summer was get actual replacements for those players. We haven't really replaced either.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: hannu on September 15, 2017, 01:31:12 AM
does walter smith need a job?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 15, 2017, 01:31:24 AM
Lol.

Just all over the gaff.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 15, 2017, 01:31:24 AM
Does Chris Sutton watch all of our games? He seems super knowledgeable about the problems we're having on the pitch.

i think he just reads the nsno forum.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on September 15, 2017, 01:31:42 AM
150mil and the only player I like is the goalie, how exciting
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 15, 2017, 01:32:19 AM
I blame the poor pitch - we can't play our usual brand of silky football.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 15, 2017, 01:32:58 AM
three absolute shellackings in a row, hard to see hope on the horizon at all
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 15, 2017, 01:32:58 AM
We've had some poor teams in dire financial times but they've still been Everton, this just isn't, i could fucking cry.

Aye, I'm getting out me sick bed to go for a bevvy. Will take some stick from the shite/united fans but it'll be better than watching this. 72 minutes of utter shite. Boots, please, nurse!.......
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on September 15, 2017, 01:33:14 AM
Remember when we all thought Sandro was going to be boss?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 15, 2017, 01:33:48 AM
wanted  Mirralas to start V man utd, why bring him on? no point at all.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 01:34:07 AM
We'll end up sacking Koeman and bringing back Moyes, won't we??  :(

He's a better manager than Koeman
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 15, 2017, 01:34:16 AM
Sandro is like the most pointless signing ever.

He is absolutely fucking laughably bad haha.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 15, 2017, 01:34:19 AM
We are creating absolutely nothing, and we're supposedly chasing the game.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Fynci on September 15, 2017, 01:34:24 AM
Gylfi has been absolutely rubbish since we bought him.RUBBISH


Before we signed him I asked a Swansea fan and friend of mine what he made of it all - admittedly he would have been hurting, but I was worried about his summing up. Not far from the truth at the minute.

"His goals and deadball assists are hard to replace and could be the difference in staying up but for sure we've been shoehorning him into our team since Bony left.  He's limited in what he can do with a moving ball and I just can't see him being first choice for Everton.  He'd be a late sub to bring on when nothing's working and you can get a free kick for him to work his magic."
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Martip on September 15, 2017, 01:34:31 AM
It's like Barkley and Lukaku were super pivotal to our attack or something.

The first thing we had to do this summer was get actual replacements for those players. We haven't really replaced either.
It's weird as we signed 3 players in that position but none are any better than ross. In fact if say they are worse.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 01:34:41 AM
Remember when we all thought Sandro was going to be boss?

He's dogshit
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 15, 2017, 01:34:43 AM
Will we ever score again ..

At a guess - no.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Tofifee on September 15, 2017, 01:34:57 AM
Baines gets away with murder on here
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 15, 2017, 01:35:14 AM
Sandro is like the most pointless signing ever.

He is absolutely fucking laughably bad haha.

In fairness, what's he had to work with? It's not like we're getting him running onto well placed through balls. None of the forwards have anything to work with.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on September 15, 2017, 01:35:17 AM
I can kind of understand Chelsea, Spurs and the whipping we're about to get at United but this?

I thought we'd probably lose or maybe nick a draw but this is something else

What is going on??
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 15, 2017, 01:36:22 AM
Can you imagine how bad this would have been had Williams have played?

That's one plus at least.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 15, 2017, 01:36:23 AM
Aye, I'm getting out me sick bed to go for a bevvy. Will take some stick from the shite/united fans but it'll be better than watching this. 72 minutes of utter shite. Boots, please, nurse!.......
Put yer best dutch stylee clogs on.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 15, 2017, 01:36:31 AM
We're so nervy too all over the pitch. No composure at all.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GoodisonPk on September 15, 2017, 01:37:10 AM
Kind of wish we'd lose 7 or 8-0 here and bring things to a head in a game that's not affecting the League.

I'm afraid that's going to be the United game.

Man I asked for 5 before and thought twice before posting it. Would never want us to concede 8.......ever.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 15, 2017, 01:37:19 AM
Wish I could speed up time
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on September 15, 2017, 01:37:36 AM
He's a better manager than Koeman

Give over he's been garbage at his last 3 teams

Sandro needs time, let's wait and see
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: School of Science on September 15, 2017, 01:38:10 AM
Are we ever going to score again ?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 15, 2017, 01:38:13 AM
I can kind of understand Chelsea, Spurs and the whipping we're about to get at United but this?

I thought we'd probably lose or maybe nick a draw but this is something else

What is going on??

Yeah, there has to be a deeper story than just being on poor form.  You can just sense it, can't you?  Especially today.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Cozzie on September 15, 2017, 01:38:14 AM
In fairness, what's he had to work with? It's not like we're getting him running onto well placed through balls. None of the forwards have anything to work with.

It also doesn't help that he doesn't have a first touch.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 15, 2017, 01:38:21 AM
I can kind of understand Chelsea, Spurs and the whipping we're about to get at United but this?

I thought we'd probably lose or maybe nick a draw but this is something else

What is going on??
They're a team. Greater than the some of their parts. Playing with confidence.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 01:38:37 AM
Baines gets away with murder on here


Baines is finished. People dont want to admit it because he was a great player. Hes no business playing for a decent team now though (suits us I guess) hes very little attacking threat
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 15, 2017, 01:39:32 AM
Wonder what bollocks Koeman is going to come out with after this farce ?

If he was the 'tell it as it is' kind that he was, he should say I'm ashamed of that display and wont collect any wages until I sort it out.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on September 15, 2017, 01:39:33 AM
Sandro is like the most pointless signing ever.

He is absolutely fucking laughably bad haha.

Be dont play a formation to suit him though. We play a formation and try and shoehorn players in. Default 4231 with 2 holding midfielders regardless of who we are playing
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 15, 2017, 01:39:53 AM
Koeman to be gone by xmas and Barkley to sign a new contract.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 01:40:24 AM
It also doesn't help that he doesn't have a first touch.

He came from the Barca academy, he used to cut the grass there
Mad ting is people on here we're saying well we've replaced 14 of Lukakus goals by signing Sandro ffs
I'll throw it down now he won't score a single league goal & will go back to Spain
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 15, 2017, 01:40:31 AM
And all this a day after Roy Hodgson's been snapped up.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on September 15, 2017, 01:40:48 AM
Yeah, there has to be a deeper story than just being on poor form.  You can just sense it, can't you?  Especially today.

Yeah must be, there is no way we can be this shit without a major problem

On paper we look ok, i've no idea what's going on but it needs to change and soon
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 01:41:33 AM
I still have hopes for Sandro and Klassen in the right system.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 15, 2017, 01:42:35 AM
Be dont play a formation to suit him though. We play a formation and try and shoehorn players in. Default 4231 with 2 holding midfielders regardless of who we are playing

The one time we played a 4-4-2, he looked good.  Not a coincidence.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 15, 2017, 01:43:00 AM
He came from the Barca academy, he used to cut the grass there
Mad ting is people on here we're saying well we've replaced 14 of Lukakus goals by signing Sandro ffs
I'll throw it down now he won't score a single league goal & will go back to Spain
Just fuck off dickhead. Go and play on your own forum.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bluenuck on September 15, 2017, 01:43:07 AM
This is exactly how the ManU game will go.

They will blitz us in the first half, and set it in cruise control for the second. Don't think Jose isn't watching this.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 01:43:26 AM
I still have hopes for Sandro and Klassen in the right system.

Looks like you owe me 5 ton, you wanna meet in person or do you want my PayPal?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 15, 2017, 01:43:31 AM
wonder how long Koeman will persist with 4231.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 15, 2017, 01:43:58 AM
This is now a pattern too... we start having a bit of a go with a few mins to go.

Fucking ridiculous.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Fynci on September 15, 2017, 01:44:01 AM
MOTM Chris Sutton
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: hannu on September 15, 2017, 01:44:09 AM
i think koeman just spends all his time planning golfing holidays while at finch farm
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueToffee on September 15, 2017, 01:44:23 AM
Sandro actually starting to get into the game here. Probably the most positive thing attacking wise we've had out there.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 01:44:42 AM
Looks like you owe me 5 ton, you wanna meet in person or do you want my PayPal?

We shall see. Think Id pay you another 500 not to have to meet you in person though
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 01:44:49 AM
wonder how long Koeman will persist with 4231.

Wonder how long backward Bill will persist with Koeman
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 15, 2017, 01:44:52 AM
There were 6 players all within 15 yards of each other then. Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on September 15, 2017, 01:44:59 AM
At least Vlasic looks to have a bit of fight
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Martip on September 15, 2017, 01:45:05 AM
wonder how long Koeman will persist with 4231.
Until he is relieved of his duties.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 01:45:46 AM
We shall see. Think Id pay you another 500 not to have to meet you in person though

That's cool, PayPal it is then - you'd be in awe of me if we met in person
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 15, 2017, 01:45:48 AM
The team is a reflection of the manager.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Bwana on September 15, 2017, 01:46:14 AM
And all this a day after Roy Hodgson's been snapped up.

Bunker-Roy is even more negative than our Ron.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on September 15, 2017, 01:46:29 AM
This is exactly how the ManU game will go.

They will blitz us in the first half, and set it in cruise control for the second. Don't think Jose isn't watching this.
If he is he's put his note pad down and he's got his feet up with his slippers on, chuckling to himself
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: hannu on September 15, 2017, 01:46:29 AM
The team is a reflection of the manager.

fat lazy and ginger?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: D_murph0278 on September 15, 2017, 01:46:38 AM
He came from the Barca academy, he used to cut the grass there
Mad ting is people on here we're saying well we've replaced 14 of Lukakus goals by signing Sandro ffs
I'll throw it down now he won't score a single league goal & will go back to Spain

Sandro was quality all of last season, in his breakthrough season really. So much so that Diego Simeone wanted him at Atletico. Koeman has killed him already.
He's had nothing to work with.
No offence to DCL, But we've reverted to tactics were Dennis Straqualersi would be an option. Just run all day and win a couple of flick ons and youre in the side upfront.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Smingers on September 15, 2017, 01:46:45 AM
We have been rubbish. But this ref has been a proper homer today. That was blatantly a corner. We have not had any decisions go for us today as well.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 01:46:59 AM
Just fuck off dickhead. Go and play on your own forum.

Another fan
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 01:47:12 AM
Can we please start the next game with Kenny, Klassen, Sandro and Lookman. Lets back these players and give them the minutes to play themselves into form. Fuck Rooney off, fuck Sigurdson off, fuck Schneiderlin off
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 15, 2017, 01:47:26 AM
fat lazy and ginger?

Weak.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: ynotd on September 15, 2017, 01:47:35 AM
That's cool, PayPal it is then - you'd be in awe of me if we met in person

Mad ting is youre a nugget
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 15, 2017, 01:47:38 AM
Seriously mods can you just fuck Realist off?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Robber Rodwell on September 15, 2017, 01:47:40 AM
Reminds me of all the threads last season telling Lukaku to get stuffed.  I am sure he really regrets leaving.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 15, 2017, 01:47:41 AM
We have been rubbish. But this ref has been a proper homer today. That was blatantly a corner. We have not had any decisions go for us today as well.

Yea a real game changer!
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 01:47:59 AM
Sandro actually starting to get into the game here. Probably the most positive thing attacking wise we've had out there.

I like him. Busy energetic. Its not clicked for him but least hes proactive. I still think hes a player
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Bally on September 15, 2017, 01:48:00 AM
Are the whole squad trying to get Koeman sacked
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 15, 2017, 01:48:18 AM
Can we please start the next game with Kenny, Klassen, Sandro and Lookman. Lets back these players and give them the minutes to play themselves into form. Fuck Rooney off, fuck Sigurdson off, fuck Schneiderlin off

Another 6 changes I reckon. Same scoreline though.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 15, 2017, 01:48:26 AM
Can't wait for the ratings thread
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: ynotd on September 15, 2017, 01:48:35 AM
At least Vlasic looks to have a bit of fight

We will have that knocked out of him within a month
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Smingers on September 15, 2017, 01:48:37 AM
Yea a real game changer!
;D just sayin
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 01:48:44 AM

Sandro was quality all of last season, in his breakthrough season really. So much so that Diego Simeone wanted him at Atletico. Koeman has killed him already.
He's had nothing to work with.
No offence to DCL, But we've reverted to tactics were Dennis Straqualersi would be an option. Just run all day and win a couple of flick ons and youre in the side upfront.

Doubt it, the interest from Athletico was probably fake to get the deal over the line - he's shite & he's on 120k a week. Shit players look good in Spain
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Sixx1402 on September 15, 2017, 01:48:49 AM
Can we please start the next game with Kenny, Klassen, Sandro and Lookman. Lets back these players and give them the minutes to play themselves into form. Fuck Rooney off, fuck Sigurdson off, fuck Schneiderlin off

Well they couldn't possibly do any worse  :headbang:
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 15, 2017, 01:49:01 AM
Sandro has been class in garbage time
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Paddockoldie on September 15, 2017, 01:49:17 AM
Looks like you owe me 5 ton, you wanna meet in person or do you want my PayPal?


Call it now. You're a dirty fuckin redshite. I've never met a blue like you lad. You ain't no blue. Probably sittin with your one mate in a bedsit in Widnes buzzin off your ma's script and enjoying your wind up. Redshite
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 15, 2017, 01:49:27 AM
Shameful.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 15, 2017, 01:49:33 AM
Are the whole squad trying to get Koeman sacked

There have got to be some leaks soon about how little he is liked. That can be the only reason some very good players can't be arsed doing the basics.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: hannu on September 15, 2017, 01:49:35 AM
Are the whole squad trying to get Koeman sacked

i hope so
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bluenuck on September 15, 2017, 01:49:51 AM
My summary.

I watched a well drilled, well prepared team that had a game plan ready that they executed to perfection play a team that looked un-prepared, un-interested and looked like they had no plan at all.

If we could just show a plan and a system then I'd be happy ffs.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: D_murph0278 on September 15, 2017, 01:49:58 AM
Doubt it, the interest from Athletico was probably fake to get the deal over the line - he's shite & he's on 120k a week. Shit players look good in Spain

You're shit.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 01:50:19 AM
Seriously mods can you just fuck Realist off?

Why?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 01:50:35 AM
Doubt it, the interest from Athletico was probably fake to get the deal over the line - he's shite & he's on 120k a week. Shit players look good in Spain

Name us half a dozen of these shit players who look good in Spain
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Running Blue on September 15, 2017, 01:50:58 AM
Why?

How about just a time lock that bans him for 48 hours after an Everton loss?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 15, 2017, 01:51:00 AM
If the problem was the players, then Koeman should drop every one of them after that and play the U23's.

But it isnt.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Bally on September 15, 2017, 01:51:02 AM
The team is a reflection of the manager.
What prefers to play golf
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Jacko4468 on September 15, 2017, 01:51:09 AM
Looked to me how we played at the end of Martinez, player look like they've downed tools, almost like he's lost the dressing room
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on September 15, 2017, 01:51:25 AM
Name us half a dozen of these shit players who look good in Spain

NZonzi
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Trowel on September 15, 2017, 01:51:36 AM
Nice of the Cologne fans to storm the Emirates so we can get even more match analysis in.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on September 15, 2017, 01:51:39 AM
Awful, just fucking awful. Doesnt help having absolute cunts on here stirring shit up.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 15, 2017, 01:51:55 AM

Call it now. You're a dirty fuckin redshite. I've never met a blue like you lad. You ain't no blue. Probably sittin with your one mate in a bedsit in Widnes buzzin off your ma's script and enjoying your wind up. Redshite

While you keep biting he's going to keep poking.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: brap2 on September 15, 2017, 01:52:00 AM
Maybe we're just a shit team?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: ally2 on September 15, 2017, 01:52:08 AM
Twatalanta
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 01:52:15 AM

Call it now. You're a dirty fuckin redshite. I've never met a blue like you lad. You ain't no blue. Probably sittin with your one mate in a bedsit in Widnes buzzin off your ma's script and enjoying your wind up. Redshite

No I'm not. Pretty clear to see we're goosed under this clown. I think we're finishing outside the top 10 this season I'm afraid.
As for my life - I guarantee it's better than yours
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 15, 2017, 01:52:30 AM
Koeman and the players should offer refunds to every Evertonian that spent their hard earned money to travel over there
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 15, 2017, 01:52:45 AM
Start playing 4-4-2.  Rotate DCL, Sando, and Rooney evenly up top.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 15, 2017, 01:53:18 AM
Lyon and Limassol drew 1-1
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Ross on September 15, 2017, 01:53:44 AM
Wonder if Koeman regrets that holiday the other week?..



Nah I doubt it actually.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on September 15, 2017, 01:54:11 AM
Lyon and Limassol drew 1-1

only good news of the day
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 15, 2017, 01:54:17 AM
Are the whole squad trying to get Koeman sacked

I reckon Barkley is leading the squad to get Koeman sacked, working in the background, even trying to get Conte on board not just with the transfer deadline lies but trolling Koeman thinking he would be getting Costa.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 01:54:26 AM
Name us half a dozen of these shit players who look good in Spain

Kanoute, Aspas, Forlan, Otamendi, Jesus Navas, Negredo
Checkmate off you go
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Tony Clifton on September 15, 2017, 01:54:39 AM
NZonzi

He's only five and a half shit players, tbd ;)
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on September 15, 2017, 01:55:07 AM
NZonzi

You think hes shit?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 15, 2017, 01:56:07 AM
Koeman and the players should offer refunds to every Evertonian that spent their hard earned money to travel over there

Nah.

You pay your money at your own risk.

Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on September 15, 2017, 01:56:14 AM
You think hes shit?

Not in spain
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 01:56:40 AM

You're shit.

And you're who?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Paddockoldie on September 15, 2017, 01:56:53 AM
No I'm not. Pretty clear to see we're goosed under this clown. I think we're finishing outside the top 10 this season I'm afraid.
As for my life - I guarantee it's better than yours

A benzo script for life isn't a life. It may feel that way.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: chang on September 15, 2017, 01:57:15 AM
no win in 5 .... no goals scored last 3 ..... 8 conceded in last 3.... no idea where we go from here
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on September 15, 2017, 01:57:43 AM
I risked life and limb on the motorbike after work to get back in time to see the second half.

Still, my decision making was not as disastrous as any Everton player who tried a fucking pass tonight.

Much more of this and I'm done with footbal. What other sports are there?

Goalball? Is that a thing?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: ynotd on September 15, 2017, 01:58:07 AM
A benzo script for life isn't a life. It may feel that way.

He's got 12 toes and a runcorn bowl head

Winning
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 15, 2017, 01:58:18 AM
I reckon Barkley is leading the squad to get Koeman sacked, working in the background, even trying to get Conte on board not just with the transfer deadline lies but trolling Koeman thinking he would be getting Costa.


Lay off the smokes bud.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 15, 2017, 01:58:26 AM
Nah.

You pay your money at your own risk.



You pay your money expecting our players to turn up, win, lose or draw, have a go, not one of our players did that, they didn't give a shit
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on September 15, 2017, 01:58:41 AM
Maybe we're just a shit team?
We simply aren't a team. Not sure how we become one?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 15, 2017, 01:59:13 AM
Lyon and Limassol drew 1-1

Yeah, Limassol equalised in the 94th minute to fuck my £200 up.

Anyone else wanna join the queue to boot me in the testies?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 01:59:26 AM
A benzo script for life isn't a life. It may feel that way.

I don't understand old man gangster slang sorry can you say it in English please?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 15, 2017, 01:59:41 AM
Forget bad formation & tactics, even no new striker.

The BIG problems are no drive, no desire, no will to win.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 15, 2017, 01:59:46 AM
no win in 5 .... no goals scored last 3 ..... 8 conceded in last 3.... no idea where we go from here

Those stats will look a lot worse on Sunday evening.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 15, 2017, 02:00:06 AM
Lay off the smokes bud.

i dont smoke bud bro,  you gotta have a laugh, or well try too. :p
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 15, 2017, 02:00:57 AM
Heres Koeman now, tell it how it is, don't dare try bullshit
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 15, 2017, 02:02:00 AM
lol the tv presenter lady said we need more leaders on the pitch!!
im sure we've got atleast 6 players who are/have been captains for their last club.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: D_murph0278 on September 15, 2017, 02:02:36 AM
And you're who?

Someone who thinks you're shit.

Amongst many others btw.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 15, 2017, 02:02:54 AM
Koeman - don't criticise the players, criticise me, its my fault
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 15, 2017, 02:03:32 AM
Koeman: I was asking myself what I'm doing wrong. We had no passion, no desire. Not how I like my team to play.

Blaming himself. Good to hear at least.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Running Blue on September 15, 2017, 02:05:06 AM
I reckon Barkley is leading the squad to get Koeman sacked, working in the background, even trying to get Conte on board not just with the transfer deadline lies but trolling Koeman thinking he would be getting Costa.


Are you a Donald Trump supporter?  This is the type of conspiracy theory that usually only appears on Breitbart or InfoWars.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 15, 2017, 02:05:10 AM
oh yes Koeman, best thing you have said so far this season, hope that look at your self, brings a change in the style deployed.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 15, 2017, 02:06:30 AM
lol the tv presenter lady said we need more leaders on the pitch!!
im sure we've got atleast 6 players who are/have been captains for their last club.

And at least 2 who have captained their country
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 02:06:49 AM
It's all good blaming himself, we don't have the personnel to change systems & we don't have a proper striker
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: SANA_DR0 on September 15, 2017, 02:07:10 AM
Are you a Donald Trump supporter?  This is the type of conspiracy theory that usually only appears on Breitbart or InfoWars.


guess the sarcasm went way over your head bro,

im in England uk, im pretty left. the opposite of a trump supporter.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Tinga on September 15, 2017, 02:08:07 AM
Threads over, we've hit the shitty political jokes. Bye.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on September 15, 2017, 02:09:34 AM
How long is he gonna blame himself for this run though? The amount of formations tried using the big money players is falling flat every time.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: sam of the south on September 15, 2017, 02:10:31 AM
Wow, switching on the telly after putting my daughter to bed, and it's 3-0.

Good stuff.

Are Atalanta better than Chelsea and Spurs then, lads?

Or are we just worryingly poor?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: john e on September 15, 2017, 02:11:19 AM
Just can't believe how bad we really are! So Stoke was a flash in the pan? Long season ahead boys, after seeing the games so far  ::)
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: wepull on September 15, 2017, 02:11:45 AM
The only game where we have had some sense of control over the game was against Split in the first leg. I just wonder why we haven't played the same team or a similar kind of a set up again so far.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 02:11:50 AM
Wow, switching on the telly after putting my daughter to bed, and it's 3-0.

Good stuff.

Are Atalanta better than Chelsea and Spurs then, lads?

Or are we just worryingly poor?

The latter
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: sam of the south on September 15, 2017, 02:13:06 AM
The latter

Thanks, mate.

I'll sleep well now.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: sam of the south on September 15, 2017, 02:15:37 AM
What prefers to play golf

I heard (way back, before he came to Everton) that he often blew training off at Southampton to play the favoured game of men that also like James Bond and Top Gear.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Heisenberg on September 15, 2017, 02:20:49 AM
I risked life and limb on the motorbike after work to get back in time to see the second half.

Still, my decision making was not as disastrous as any Everton player who tried a fucking pass tonight.

Much more of this and I'm done with footbal. What other sports are there?

Goalball? Is that a thing?


You think thats bad. I done supermarket sweep. Bought hot dogs and forgot the buns in my rush
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: BlueBeagle on September 15, 2017, 02:25:09 AM
I heard (way back, before he came to Everton) that he often blew training off at Southampton to play the favoured game of men that also like James Bond and Top Gear.

Must be true then
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Ravardo on September 15, 2017, 02:26:59 AM
If we had lost 4.0 it wouldve looked rather pretty when you look at our last losses 2.0 3.0 4.0 and then probably the 5.0 come sunday
Anyone else fancy retracting there vote until the give him until xmas
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: TSGun on September 15, 2017, 02:36:22 AM
Bloody hell, just dragged myself out of bed at 4:45am to watch this and now realise I've messed the times up and missed the lot.

The question is am I actually still asleep? That score can't be real.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 15, 2017, 02:43:33 AM
Didn't the see game but I've just read we had three shots on target
Things are looking up
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Marky Mark and the funky on September 15, 2017, 02:44:25 AM
Bloody hell, just dragged myself out of bed at 4:45am to watch this and now realise I've messed the times up and missed the lot.

The question is am I actually still asleep? That score can't be real.

I actually got up at 2.40am ready for this mate, take your small win and run far far from here!
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Ravardo on September 15, 2017, 02:52:25 AM
The formation we played tonight was the one i wanted them to play but with a couple of different players but looking how ho isolated DCL looked tonight and the only other technically no.9 (rooney) and also wanting to play all the other no.10's then maybe we should be playing 4-4-2
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Mayor Farnum on September 15, 2017, 02:54:27 AM
Bloody hell, just dragged myself out of bed at 4:45am to watch this and now realise I've messed the times up and missed the lot.

The question is am I actually still asleep? That score can't be real.

No it's no dream. The score was only three.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: TSGun on September 15, 2017, 02:56:02 AM
I actually got up at 2.40am ready for this mate, take your small win and run far far from here!
Haha...hollow victories are still victories I guess and, yes, happiness can be in short supply on the odd occasion around here. :)
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: sam of the south on September 15, 2017, 03:01:41 AM
Did anything happen while the handyman came over to give me an estimate?

OH SWEET CHRIST.

Sounds like a porno plot
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blargins on September 15, 2017, 03:39:39 AM
On the bright side, this could be our Istanbul...

Or maybe not lol
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Escla on September 15, 2017, 03:40:41 AM
I actually got up at 2.40am ready for this mate, take your small win and run far far from here!

What time zone you in then mate ?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: sam of the south on September 15, 2017, 03:41:01 AM
Must be true then

Just what I heard, pal.

What are you trying to say?
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on September 15, 2017, 05:04:01 AM
Watched the highlights on ITV and was really disappointed again...

Not with the team, but with pundit Leon Osman who totally sat on the fence and didnt have any useful insight into WTF is going wrong.

Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on September 15, 2017, 06:06:03 AM
If we win 4-3 at home he can stay til Christmas - if not don't let the door hit your arse on the way out on Halloween Ronald lad. Two dickheads in a row. Fuck me!
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Ravardo on September 15, 2017, 06:48:11 AM
Gutted shame we didnt play these before hajduk split looking at the stats for gomez 91 chances created last season and 16 goals,,sounds like a proper winger
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueski on September 15, 2017, 06:56:09 AM
too bad we didn't have someone like gareth barry for that one
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Trowel on September 15, 2017, 01:19:38 PM
too bad we didn't have someone like gareth barry for that one
Schneiderlin looked like he was playing in the Gareth Barry role, i.e. 36 and semi-retired.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 01:32:45 PM
Schneiderlin looked like he was playing in the Gareth Barry role, i.e. 36 and semi-retired.

He's not very good really is he
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on September 15, 2017, 02:32:52 PM
And at least 2 who have captained their country

Martina captains his country too. Although he didn't play in this one.

Was that the problem? No - Holgate and Vlasic were about the only ones trying hard as far as I could tell from watching 2nd half. Maybe Sandro too, but too little too late.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: brap2 on September 15, 2017, 02:46:32 PM
He's not very good really is he

He's a very good player in very bad form.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 15, 2017, 03:16:36 PM
Stop passing the blame onto an individual player, none of them are playing well right now, they're all to blame, we're missing that one player who can take the bull by the horns and give the others a kick up the arse, none of them are capable of doing that, it looks like they're all waiting for someone else to do it for them
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Escla on September 15, 2017, 03:34:08 PM
Stop passing the blame onto an individual player, none of them are playing well right now, they're all to blame, we're missing that one player who can take the bull by the horns and give the others a kick up the arse, none of them are capable of doing that, it looks like they're all waiting for someone else to do it for them

Reckon Rooney the only one that could do that but Baines/Jags are captains, that should change.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on September 15, 2017, 03:41:35 PM
Stop passing the blame onto an individual player, none of them are playing well right now, they're all to blame, we're missing that one player who can take the bull by the horns and give the others a kick up the arse, none of them are capable of doing that, it looks like they're all waiting for someone else to do it for them

It looks very like a Leicester or Chelsea situation to me . They are all waiting fro Koeman to fuck off . Trump or Putins fault I guess ................. sorry wrong forum .
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Realist on September 15, 2017, 03:42:23 PM
He's a very good player in very bad form.

Fair enough if you rate him, I don't think he's good enough often enough
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 15, 2017, 03:51:18 PM
It looks very like a Leicester or Chelsea situation to me . They are all waiting fro Koeman to fuck off . Trump or Putins fault I guess ................. sorry wrong forum .

Said this last night, something is going on
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Mac934 on September 15, 2017, 04:26:16 PM
If, and it's a big IF, Koeman has lost the dressing room, we are right royally fucked. Unless someone in higher management realises this and reacts to it, we are in deep shit. It's going to a long long season.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 15, 2017, 04:39:58 PM
Reckon Rooney the only one that could do that but Baines/Jags are captains, that should change.

Rooney being there might well be part of the problem. He's the main man, star player, biggest voice in the dressing room, goes where he wants on the pitch regardless of team shape.
Maybe all other players defer to his superior knowledge and experience, inside the dressing room and on the pitch, and if he's not on it then no-one else steps forward. I don't see any leaders out there this season but on paper we have quite a few.

I'm not absolving Koeman of the blame for our performances as the system and selections are head scratching but it's another dynamic to consider, especially when things aren't going well.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on September 15, 2017, 04:47:46 PM
Rooney being there might well be part of the problem. He's the main man, star player, biggest voice in the dressing room, goes where he wants on the pitch regardless of team shape.
Maybe all other players defer to his superior knowledge and experience, inside the dressing room and on the pitch, and if he's not on it then no-one else steps forward. I don't see any leaders out there this season but on paper we have quite a few.

I'm not absolving Koeman of the blame for our performances as the system and selections are head scratching but it's another dynamic to consider, especially when things aren't going well.

I think our leaders being past their best is a good point although Phil Neville was a good leader who never had a best but a good pointy finger . The only positive thing I have seen this season is Pickford shouting at those in front of him . Rooney has always had passion but at the back Baines and Jags are too quiet and Williams is , well , shit . Koeman himself shows more passion at a press conference than he does on the pitch and for the life of me I just don't get what the fuck Ferguson contributes to EFC . To think it was once seen as being as simple as defending corners and we were Champions :)
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: themilkycoffees on September 15, 2017, 05:05:46 PM
If Koeman has indeed lost the players then two different managers will have lost the players at Everton in around 18 months. It seems to be the case that as soon as the players don't like our manager, they stop playing and look to get the manager sacked.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on September 15, 2017, 05:08:05 PM
If Koeman has indeed lost the players then two different managers will have lost the players at Everton in around 18 months. It seems to be the case that as soon as the players don't like our manager, they stop playing and look to get the manager sacked.

Well done Milkey it seems you have entered the mind of the modern day footballer .
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 15, 2017, 05:15:24 PM
If Koeman has indeed lost the players then two different managers will have lost the players at Everton in around 18 months. It seems to be the case that as soon as the players don't like our manager, they stop playing and look to get the manager sacked.

If the players were the same I'd tend to agree but we've bought virtually a new team in the past 12 months.

It's for this reason I'm interested to see how we do after the Man U game when the fixtures get easier on paper and he's had 10 games to get an idea of what/who works.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: themilkycoffees on September 15, 2017, 05:22:17 PM
Well done Milkey it seems you have entered the mind of the modern day footballer .

Maybe it looks like I'm stating the obvious but my point was, if this has happened, this has happened twice at the club in such a short space a time with a lot of the same players. Therefore maybe it's an attitude/ego problem with some of our players. None of them deserve to have an attitude problem. Specialists in losing when it matters like Jagielka and Baines should be replaced as soon as possible. They say all of the right things but you can just tell it doesn't truly hurt them when they get beat.   
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on September 15, 2017, 05:24:19 PM
I'm torn on this.

One part of me is saying "Early days, early days, lots of new players to bed in"

And the other part of me is running around screaming hysterically "We're all gonna die!"

Yes there are some very real mitigating factors but oh my god these early warning signs are fucking disastrous!
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: themilkycoffees on September 15, 2017, 05:24:52 PM
If the players were the same I'd tend to agree but we've bought virtually a new team in the past 12 months.

It's for this reason I'm interested to see how we do after the Man U game when the fixtures get easier on paper and he's had 10 games to get an idea of what/who works.

Agree with you that a lot of the players are different now, but would argue that a lot of the same "leaders" still there.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Lxxx on September 15, 2017, 05:26:48 PM
Agree with you that a lot of the players are different now, but would argue that a lot of the same "leaders" still there.

I just think we've gone from a manager who was in cloud cuckoo land to an inflexible manager with very little man management skills. I don't think their is any special common denominator. 
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on September 15, 2017, 05:50:26 PM
I just think we've gone from a manager who was in cloud cuckoo land to an inflexible manager with very little man management skills. I don't think their is any special common denominator. 

Short termism of players and coaches is more the problem . Look at how Ranieri quickly became public enemy No1 . The abuse Martinez got was shameful and the reality is unless Koeman turns this around quickly Burnley and Bournemouth will think they can use our fans as their 12th man . I said to my mate the other week " Where the fuck has Davies enthusiasm gone " . In the space of a few weeks he has become a bit of a pfft of a player . Lookman scored against City in the same game last season yet seems to be judged on being paired with Martina against Hajduk ( obviously to Koeman it was lookman and not Martina who was pants ) . The thing is we have the players to go out and get a result on Sunday but there is absolutely nothing to suggest the game is going to be anything other than an embarrassment .
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: blueski on September 15, 2017, 06:14:24 PM
People underestimate the effect lukaku had on us last season it wasn't just the goals it was the physical threat the offered and all the man marking and doubling made an awful lot of space nearby for players like Davies

We are just so very easy to set up against at the moment
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Cods on September 15, 2017, 06:22:46 PM
like Jagielka and Baines should be replaced as soon as possible. They say all of the right things but you can just tell it doesn't truly hurt them when they get beat.   
Based upon what exactly?
What a load of shite.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Bluenose 91 on September 15, 2017, 06:26:13 PM
Short termism of players and coaches is more the problem . Look at how Ranieri quickly became public enemy No1 . The abuse Martinez got was shameful and the reality is unless Koeman turns this around quickly Burnley and Bournemouth will think they can use our fans as their 12th man . I said to my mate the other week " Where the fuck has Davies enthusiasm gone " . In the space of a few weeks he has become a bit of a pfft of a player . Lookman scored against City in the same game last season yet seems to be judged on being paired with Martina against Hajduk ( obviously to Koeman it was lookman and not Martina who was pants ) . The thing is we have the players to go out and get a result on Sunday but there is absolutely nothing to suggest the game is going to be anything other than an embarrassment .

It wasn't.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: themilkycoffees on September 15, 2017, 06:35:18 PM
Based upon what exactly?
What a load of shite.

Have they been successful at the club? No. How many trophies have they won? None.
How many derby games have they turned up in? One or two, at most.

Think the Carragher interview with GOT was pretty telling about their character. More interested in being mates with Gerrard and Carragher than winning games. Shite.

Jagielka is a liability and Baines, although once a great player, hasn't seemed himself for well over a year now. Heard from multiple people that he isn't all that interested in football any more. Still happy to pick up £70k a week for passing the ball backwards and sideways.
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on September 15, 2017, 06:38:43 PM
It wasn't.

I was ashamed and as a fan so should you have been .

Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Bluenose 91 on September 15, 2017, 06:39:44 PM
I was ashamed and as a fan so should you have been .



He didn't get enough abuse imo
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: TheRam on September 15, 2017, 06:40:07 PM
I was ashamed and as a fan so should you have been .



Shut up

We've all seen you speak poorly about Koeman
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on September 15, 2017, 06:40:57 PM
Have they been successful at the club? No. How many trophies have they won? None.
How many derby games have they turned up in? One or two, at most.

Think the Carragher interview with GOT was pretty telling about their character. More interested in being mates with Gerrard and Carragher than winning games. Shite.

Jagielka is a liability and Baines, although once a great player, hasn't seemed himself for well over a year now. Heard from multiple people that he isn't all that interested in football any more. Still happy to pick up £70k a week for passing the ball backwards and sideways.

I agree both need replacing but only because their ability no longer matches the aspirations of the club . However , Koeman has signed quite a few who you could say the same about and their contracts have a lot longer to run than Baines and Jagielka . I think Baines ( all this one of our own shit really angered me ) was a snide when Martinez came in for stick but Jagielka is class as an Evertonian .
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on September 15, 2017, 06:44:18 PM
Shut up

We've all seen you speak poorly about Koeman

On a forum you melt . You wouldn't catch me doing it at a game FFS .

Edit . I hope I didn't hurt his feelings .
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Rodenplav64 on September 15, 2017, 06:45:48 PM
He didn't get enough abuse imo

Oh well .
Title: Re: Atalanta vs. Everton
Post by: Macca77 on September 15, 2017, 07:14:47 PM
I thought the abuse Martinez got was quite mild, he got off lightly. No other manager in our history has angered me so much, the shite he constantly came out with made me want to hurt him