Post by: Macca77 on October 16, 2017, 07:34:27 PM
Struggling to think of any sort of line up right now
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 16, 2017, 07:35:53 PM
Post by: hill135 on October 16, 2017, 07:46:12 PM
Luckily they are poor away from home; but we’re just shit all round so it’s got all the makings of a shitfest
Post by: School of Science on October 16, 2017, 07:52:13 PM
Post by: Cereal Killer on October 16, 2017, 07:56:09 PM
Kenny Jags Keane Baines
Gana
Vlasic Davies Sig Lookman
DCL
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 16, 2017, 07:57:47 PM
Post by: Hawkandro on October 16, 2017, 07:58:09 PM
Kenny Jags Keane Baines
Klaassen Gueye/Davies
Vlasic Gylfi Lookman
Sandro
Post by: everton1952 on October 16, 2017, 08:52:19 PM
How surly will Goodison be?
probably apprehensive but the roof will come off if we win, and the "Koeman out now" brigade will slink home to come back and try again, probably against Arsenal.
Post by: Macca77 on October 16, 2017, 08:55:41 PM
Post by: brap2 on October 16, 2017, 09:04:29 PM
I predict Goodison will be extremely quiet
An evening of quiet moaning followed by quite loud derision upon their second and third goals awaits.
Post by: BlueNoseMike on October 16, 2017, 09:51:38 PM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 16, 2017, 09:53:48 PM
Post by: arteta4spain on October 16, 2017, 10:19:42 PM
Must win.So the Everton curse will strike again, as Lyon record their best ever away win. You just know that's what will happen. Also some player who has never scored or hasn't scored in a while will score first or the winner.
Luckily they are poor away from home; but we're just shit all round so it's got all the makings of a shitfest
Post by: gizzblue on October 16, 2017, 10:27:18 PM
Post by: Macca77 on October 16, 2017, 10:31:18 PM
Still going the match though ....forever the optimist 😅😅
Same, fiver for kids is a no brainer, they can suffer with me.
Post by: Cozzie on October 16, 2017, 10:39:38 PM
Still might like but we should never have let it get to this stage.
This could also potentially be a season changer, a convincing win, as unlikely as it is, under the goodison floodlights could be all we need to get us going.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 16, 2017, 10:40:05 PM
Still going the match though ....forever the optimist 😅😅
Or masochist. Fine line, innit?
Post by: gizzblue on October 16, 2017, 11:05:26 PM
Or masochist. Fine line, innit?Deffo is a fine line 😅😅
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 16, 2017, 11:13:32 PM
PickfordThat team looks fucking awful...and it’s probably the best we can put out. How many of those players would start for a top 6 team?
Kenny Jags Keane Baines
Gana
Vlasic Davies Sig Lookman
DCL
Post by: Tinga on October 16, 2017, 11:16:08 PM
probably apprehensive but the roof will come off if we win, and the "Koeman out now" brigade will slink home to come back and try again, probably against Arsenal.
I see you're taking the role of @Ross (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2316) with Koeman.
Post by: phillyt on October 16, 2017, 11:33:07 PM
probably apprehensive but the roof will come off if we win, and the "Koeman out now" brigade will slink home to come back and try again, probably against Arsenal.
Aside from the “it was like this with Kendall before it took off” (which was utilised with Martinez too) what can you actually see in this deluded, stubborn fucktard of a football manager that stops you being part of the “koeman out brigade”. If, and it’s a big desperate if, we somehow get something against Lyon it doesn’t automatically excuse this cretinous excuse of a coach any of his failings.
He should already be a distant memory. Atalanta was the disgraceful straw that broke the camels back for me. His comments afterwards said it all. Didn’t prepare, doesn’t care. Get fucking rid.
As for the game, I’m not sure I can be arsed with it. (Obvs I’ll go because I’m a fool)
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on October 16, 2017, 11:58:33 PM
Post by: Simon Paul on October 17, 2017, 12:25:15 AM
Post by: Macca77 on October 17, 2017, 12:31:31 AM
Post by: Sir Stealth on October 17, 2017, 12:40:09 AM
Would have thought he has no choice other than to play a strong side. Not sure if Jags could do 2 games in a short space of time though so perhaps Williams will be back in there. Think he will have to stick with Vlasic given how he is a rare in form player in this side
Would like to see Davies come in and play central with Gana. Schneiderlins form is concerning
Post by: Paddockoldie on October 17, 2017, 12:44:10 AM
Kenny Jags Williams Baines
Gana Davies
Lookman Sigurdson Vlasic
DCL/Niasse
Post by: Zoolander on October 17, 2017, 01:14:02 AM
Pickford
Kenny Jags Keane Baines
Gana Rooney
Lookman Sigurdson Vlasic
DCL
I think Rooneys striker/10 days are done but he could offer a lot more from dropping deeper and being a more attack minded player to play alongside Gana or Morgan (he drops there anyhow half the time). Frees up sigurdson to play where he should.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 17, 2017, 01:57:45 AM
Pickford
Kenny Jags Keane Baines
Gana Rooney
Lookman Sigurdson Vlasic
DCL
I think Rooneys striker/10 days are done but he could offer a lot more from dropping deeper and being a more attack minded player to play alongside Gana or Morgan (he drops there anyhow half the time). Frees up sigurdson to play where he should.
I like the concept but we might have to wait until we have a full week to practice in training first.
Post by: TheTone on October 17, 2017, 02:07:07 AM
Post by: Zoolander on October 17, 2017, 02:34:19 AM
I like the concept but we might have to wait until we have a full week to practice in training first.Fair comment.
Wait... do we practice stuff in training?
Post by: brap2 on October 17, 2017, 02:34:44 AM
That team looks fucking awful...and it’s probably the best we can put out. How many of those players would start for a top 6 team?
None.
Post by: BlueBeagle on October 17, 2017, 02:49:04 AM
How many of those players would start for a top 6 team?
That's why they play for Everton though isn't it
Post by: Macca77 on October 17, 2017, 02:54:45 AM
Post by: brap2 on October 17, 2017, 02:55:29 AM
That's why they play for Everton though isn't it
Sure but how far back would you have to go to get to a team of Everton players that none of the top 6 would have?
Lukaku
Barkley
Stones
Fellaini
Arteta
Pienaar
Lescott
Jags
Baines
--
Now we've got maybe picks if he develops, maybe Keane if he isn't actually quite average, maybe Lookman if he is anything like what Everton fans think he is.
Post by: Escla on October 17, 2017, 03:42:57 AM
How surly will Goodison be?Not nearly half as bad as it is on here.
Post by: Escla on October 17, 2017, 03:46:47 AM
We bloody best win, I've got flights and accommodation bookedMe too, non refundable as well !
Post by: D15TIN on October 17, 2017, 03:53:03 AM
Kenny
Jagielka
Keane
Baines
Schneiderlin
Lookman
Vlasic
Sigurdsson
Davies
Calvert-Lewin
pointless picking 11s we all know the cunt wont change.
Post by: ally2 on October 17, 2017, 03:54:15 AM
...the disgraceful straw that broke the camels back...
Oi. Leave the straw out of it.
Post by: Brownie20 on October 17, 2017, 04:03:22 AM
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 17, 2017, 04:15:25 AM
Can’t even remember the result of the last match we went to.
Post by: Tony Clifton on October 17, 2017, 04:55:37 AM
Post by: Redartin on October 17, 2017, 05:24:55 AM
Obviously a daylight match would be better.
Post by: Tony Clifton on October 17, 2017, 06:23:26 AM
At what stage does the plane with the banner come out?
Obviously a daylight match would be better.
We should go halves with the Arsenal fans for Sunday. Another of those infamous Everton/Arsenal firsts.
Post by: Tony Clifton on October 17, 2017, 06:38:49 AM
I’ve just got me and our Alex a ticket for this.
Can’t even remember the result of the last match we went to.
If Alex is your child then I'll be reporting you to the NSPCC. ;D
Asked my lad earlier if he fancied going, he replied "you want to go?" I said "nah, was just offering to buy you and your mate there (playing fifa as they do) tickets, get you out of the house for a couple of hours..." Pair of them just done a Beavis and Butthead laugh and I ceased to exist.
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 17, 2017, 10:46:06 AM
Post by: School of Science on October 17, 2017, 11:24:37 AM
Sure but how far back would you have to go to get to a team of Everton players that none of the top 6 would have?
Lukaku
Barkley
Stones
Fellaini
Arteta
Pienaar
Lescott
Jags
Baines
--
Now we've got maybe picks if he develops, maybe Keane if he isn't actually quite average, maybe Lookman if he is anything like what Everton fans think he is.
Interesting Brap, who was the manager with hardly a penny to spend who bought 99% of them players ? Take Moyes back as DOF,with Unsworth as manager until the end of the season. We have nothing to lose with the absolute shite we are watching this season.
Post by: Macca77 on October 17, 2017, 01:52:38 PM
Post by: Toddacelli on October 17, 2017, 03:14:57 PM
Speedo Mick is halfway to Lyon and has achieved around half of his fundraising target so far for Alder Hey. That's around 350 miles he's walked up to now and he's closing in on Paris, which he expects to be interesting because he hasn't actually bumped into any gendarmes yet.
Top work!
Post by: Ross on October 17, 2017, 04:15:45 PM
Post by: Lxxx on October 17, 2017, 04:17:01 PM
Post by: Toddacelli on October 17, 2017, 04:21:24 PM
He's gonna go with the same again isn't he. He's sticking with the players that are under-performing until he gets the boot.
Possibly.
He gets a big payout with a sacking doesn't he?
Post by: Lxxx on October 17, 2017, 04:24:17 PM
Possibly.
He gets a big payout with a sacking doesn't he?
I'd be surprised if he was tempted away from Southampton with a contract that contained plenty of get out clauses for us. We'll probably have to pay him the best part of £10m to disappear, only 18 months after paying the last idiot £10m to disappear too.
Post by: brap2 on October 17, 2017, 04:32:16 PM
Interesting Brap, who was the manager with hardly a penny to spend who bought 99% of them players ? Take Moyes back as DOF,with Unsworth as manager until the end of the season. We have nothing to lose with the absolute shite we are watching this season.
Think the games moved on, that might be a hollow cliche however I dunno.
Post by: ally2 on October 17, 2017, 04:40:32 PM
Post by: mikey_blue on October 17, 2017, 05:46:39 PM
Kenny Keane Jags Baines
Davies Morgs Rooney
Vlasic DCL Mirallas
Swap out Rooney for Sig if you fancy.
Try and score first.
Post by: Ramjam on October 17, 2017, 05:53:00 PM
Post by: van der Meyde on October 17, 2017, 06:02:23 PM
Take Moyes back as DOF,with Unsworth as manager until the end of the season. We have nothing to lose with the absolute shite we are watching this season.Stones aside, there's not a single (initial) signing post 2008 in there though.
We might not have had much money for the last 5 years, but his signings were more miss than hit during that period.
Post by: Toddacelli on October 17, 2017, 09:29:00 PM
Pickford
Kenny Jagielka Keane Baines
Davies Gana
Vlasic Sigurdsson Sandro
DCL
I would have put Rooney in to start over DCL if I thought he could stay up there as focal point but I think he'll try to do too much and come to deep. I'm going with DCL's pace rather than Rooney's experience to stretch the opposition.
Davies and Gana should have enough fight in the middle of the park between them to let Sigurdsson do his thing.
I went with youth/experience/youth/experience at the back so as not to have two inexperienced defenders next to each other.
Post by: kramer0 on October 17, 2017, 11:33:12 PM
RB: Holgate or Kenny
CB: Keane
CB: Jagielka
LB: Baines
DM: Schneiderlin
CM: Sigurdsson
CM: Davies or Klaassen, Davies preferred
RAM: Vlasic
CF: Calvert-Lewin
LAM: Sandro, Lookman, Lennon, or Mirallas
On the bench until the last 30 minutes: Rooney
In the stands: Martina
Post by: Shogun on October 17, 2017, 11:36:02 PM
Pickford
Holgate Jagielka Keane
Kenny Davies Gana Baines
Sigurdsson Vlasic
DCL
Holgate Jagielka Keane
Kenny Davies Gana Baines
Sigurdsson Vlasic
DCL
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 17, 2017, 11:42:40 PM
Kenny Jagielka Keane baines
Schneiderlin
Davies gueye vlasic
Sigurdsson
Dcl
Post by: wepull on October 18, 2017, 01:31:21 AM
Post by: BlueForYou on October 18, 2017, 02:04:55 AM
Not sure they will
Post by: brap2 on October 18, 2017, 02:05:39 AM
I am surprised that we haven't tried Lennon at right back this season especially when we were playing 3 at the back.
Is he fit? He's a perfect modern RWB but we haven't seen it yet.
Also, I might be talking shit or he might be injured but...no henen for the U23's tonight after Ron watched him score his like 5th or something of the season the other night.
No sambou, Kenny or lookman either actually...Probably nothing.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 18, 2017, 02:48:41 AM
Pickford
Kenny Keane Jagielka Baines
Vlasic Davies Rooney Mirallas
Siggy
DCL
Post by: Jamokachi on October 18, 2017, 03:42:40 AM
Really really want us to win this, even tho im negative towards Koeman, I want us to win this, we cant be out of Europe at this early stage..praying to the big blue toffee god thats all around in the sky...
Pickford
Kenny Keane Jagielka Baines
Vlasic Davies Rooney Mirallas
Siggy
DCL
There is zero protection from that midfield.
Post by: Waltzer on October 18, 2017, 03:55:37 AM
Holgate Keane Jags Baines
Gueye Davies
Lookman Sigurdsson Vlasic
Miralles
Post by: Heisenberg on October 18, 2017, 04:46:29 AM
Post by: TheRam on October 18, 2017, 05:14:13 AM
Few tinnies I think.
Post by: Papa Smurf on October 18, 2017, 05:25:38 AM
Holgate Jagielka Keane Baines
Vlasic
Klaassen
Sigurdsson
Rooney
Sandro
DCL
Post by: brap2 on October 18, 2017, 05:26:32 AM
Looking forward to this.
Few tinnies I think.
Yes bruddah.
Post by: Confucius on October 18, 2017, 11:28:43 AM
Post by: Macca77 on October 18, 2017, 01:57:05 PM
Post by: School of Science on October 18, 2017, 03:07:45 PM
Pickford
Holgate Keane Jags Baines
Gueye Davies
Lookman Sigurdsson Vlasic
Miralles
Put Mirallas in Lookmans position and put DCL UP top looks a good attacking team.
Post by: Toddacelli on October 18, 2017, 03:09:23 PM
GK: Pickford
RB: Holgate or Kenny
CB: Keane
CB: Jagielka
LB: Baines
DM: Schneiderlin
CM: Sigurdsson
CM: Davies or Klaassen, Davies preferred
RAM: Vlasic
CF: Calvert-Lewin
LAM: Sandro, Lookman, Lennon, or Mirallas
On the bench until the last 30 minutes: Rooney
In the stands: Martina
Can't believe you let Martina in the ground on matchday!
Post by: Waltzer on October 18, 2017, 03:30:30 PM
Put Mirallas in Lookmans position and put DCL UP top looks a good attacking team.
I know hes a bit like marmite but out of all of our players Miralles is probably the one that id have the most confidence in of getting us a goal from nowhere or in a one on one situation, hes also the most likely to frustrate but thats what you get I suppose, but id like to see him given a shot up front as at least he commits players and will run at them
Post by: Lxxx on October 18, 2017, 03:40:21 PM
Goodison under the lights would normally be rocking, I dont think Goodison can be arsed anymore
You know what if he went with a bold selection and some youth and they responded by giving us a decent performance and a win I think it would be rocking again. It doesn't take much for us to get onside again, we respond to a bit of positivity from the pitch and it feeds back, especially under the floodlights.
Post by: Juanito on October 18, 2017, 03:42:49 PM
Holgate Jags Keane Baines
Davies Gana
Lookman Sigurdsson Vlasic
Mirallas
Post by: gizzblue on October 18, 2017, 04:01:03 PM
Jags Keane
Holgate Baines
Gana Davies
Vlasic Sig Maralas
DCL.
Would be my pick
Stek
Williams Keane
Martina Baines
Gana Schneid
S Sig S
P Klassen P
A Rooney A
C DCL C
E E
Is what we end up getting
Post by: sam of the south on October 18, 2017, 04:04:02 PM
Pickford
Kenny Keane Holgate Baines
Davies Schneiderlin Klaassen
Vlasic DCL Sandro
Stekelenburg, Jagielka, Besic, Sigurdsson, Gana, Lookman, Rooney
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 18, 2017, 04:15:42 PM
There is zero protection from that midfield.
change Rooney for Ghana Gueye. your midefield contains the person who has been the worst player this seaso after Williams.. and probably responsible for not putting in a decent tackle that cost us a goal in the last 3 games, plus you still want to play with 2 holding midfielders, which has been really bad for us, they just both pass backwards, have no flair/creativity, and stop us from building attacks.. i guess fans think that MS and Gana, will eventually hit form...the system is not working, why keep beating a dead donkey?
Post by: Jamokachi on October 18, 2017, 04:18:59 PM
change Rooney for Ghana Gueye. your midefield contains the person who has been the worst player this seaso after Williams.. and probably responsible for not putting in a decent tackle that cost us a goal in the last 3 games, plus you still want to play with 2 holding midfielders, which has been really bad for us, they just both pass backwards, have no flair/creativity, and stop us from building attacks.. i guess fans think that MS and Gana, will eventually hit form...the system is not working, why keep beating a dead donkey?
what?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 18, 2017, 04:38:13 PM
what?
lol, never mind., guess you just want a repeat of our previous fixtures..
Post by: Jamokachi on October 18, 2017, 05:03:49 PM
lol, never mind., guess you just want a repeat of our previous fixtures..
No, I don't. But any fool can see that a midfield of Davies and Rooney isn't going to offer the defence (which is fragile at best) the protection they will need. Especially against a very good Lyon side.
Both lack positional discipline, and neither are particularly reliant in a defensive sense. Especially Rooney.
Point to where I have said both Gana and Schneiderlin should start? We may need two deeper lying midfielders against such quality opposition, but it doesn't necessarily mean it has to be those two.
You need to stop jumping to conclusions of others opinions. I've noticed it becoming a trait of yours.
Post by: blargins on October 18, 2017, 05:48:07 PM
Pickford
Holgate Jags Keane Baines
Davies Gana
Lookman Sigurdsson Vlasic
Mirallas
Would be a stop start game with that lineup. "Oh and that's the fortieth time Mirallas has been caught off side..."
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 18, 2017, 05:54:20 PM
Pickford
Kenny Jagielka Keane baines
Schneiderlin
Davies gueye vlasic
Sigurdsson
Dcl
sorry my bad, thought you and jamokachi where the same poster.. shouldnt post when ive just woke up.
No, I don't. But any fool can see that a midfield of Davies and Rooney isn't going to offer the defence (which is fragile at best) the protection they will need. Especially against a very good Lyon side.
Both lack positional discipline, and neither are particularly reliant in a defensive sense. Especially Rooney.
Point to where I have said both Gana and Schneiderlin should start? We may need two deeper lying midfielders against such quality opposition, but it doesn't necessarily mean it has to be those two.
You need to stop jumping to conclusions of others opinions. I've noticed it becoming a trait of yours.
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 18, 2017, 06:23:44 PM
change Rooney for Ghana Gueye. your midefield contains the person who has been the worst player this seaso after Williams.. and probably responsible for not putting in a decent tackle that cost us a goal in the last 3 games, plus you still want to play with 2 holding midfielders, which has been really bad for us, they just both pass backwards, have no flair/creativity, and stop us from building attacks.. i guess fans think that MS and Gana, will eventually hit form...the system is not working, why keep beating a dead donkey?So this was for me then?
That side has one holding midfielder. The only who holds that position positionally. His form is poor admittedly but needs must.
Post by: Bluenose 91 on October 18, 2017, 06:43:49 PM
Lads, he's fucking shit in his regular position never mind anywhere else.
Post by: BlueForYou on October 18, 2017, 07:36:53 PM
Holgate Keane Williams Baines
Davies Vlasic
Sigurdsson
Sandro Rooney DCL
Bench: Stek; Jags; Schneiderlin; Gana; Klaassen; Lookman; Mirallas
Post by: Macca77 on October 18, 2017, 07:46:09 PM
Post by: gizzblue on October 18, 2017, 07:52:12 PM
It's 2017 and there's still people calling for Mirallas to be given a go up front.Don't remember him getting a regular run of games to judge ....your crystal ball must be fooking brill .
Lads, he's fucking shit in his regular position never mind anywhere else.
Post by: BlueForYou on October 18, 2017, 07:55:38 PM
Koeman must be pulling his hair out, never mind growing a beard for Christmas
Post by: ally2 on October 18, 2017, 07:57:22 PM
Post by: gizzblue on October 18, 2017, 08:01:42 PM
I think we've got lots of options. Probably too many (going forward anyway).Yeah dead right
Sig
Klassen
Rooney
Vlasic
all vying for the same three foot in the D on the edge of the area due to Rk's rack em stack em tactic
Post by: Bluenose 91 on October 18, 2017, 09:44:30 PM
Don't remember him getting a regular run of games to judge ....your crystal ball must be fooking brill .
There's literally nothing to suggest he'd be good there though.
Post by: gizzblue on October 18, 2017, 10:03:28 PM
There's literally nothing to suggest he'd be good there though.Better than one in two goals per game at Olympiacos. ..but we've never really utilized him like they did ...so again it's down to opinion really ...but to say 'literally nothing to suggest' his ability is a bit strong ...maybe since we played him out wide but hey ...interpreting how you see fit is all gravy and we badly need goals ...but it's all by the by as Koeman's pushed him out too.
Post by: D15TIN on October 18, 2017, 10:08:17 PM
Post by: Major Clanger on October 18, 2017, 10:17:06 PM
Better than one in two goals per game at Olympiacos. ..but we've never really utilized him like they did ...so again it's down to opinion really ...but to say 'literally nothing to suggest' his ability is a bit strong ...maybe since we played him out wide but hey ...interpreting how you see fit is all gravy and we badly need goals ...but it's all by the by as Koeman's pushed him out too.
And Besic was hands down the best damn centre back in the Hungarian league, but you wouldn't trust him playing there for us as plan A, would you?
Post by: gizzblue on October 18, 2017, 10:25:02 PM
And Besic was hands down the best damn centre back in the Hungarian league, but you wouldn't trust him playing there for us as plan A, would you?We're not talking about Besic (although id take him over the recent Williams games) ....we're talking about a striker forced out of position by countless managers ....especially when they needed goals ....midfield cover or defence we have plenty of cover all tried and all failed pretty much.
Strikers we've flogged every avenue all failed ageing Rooney too young DCL settling Sandro and an at times hapless Niasse but Mirra has been frozen out by the fuckwit in charge when he has the second most career goals of any of them ...it doesn't make sense only to RK's ego.
Post by: Macca77 on October 18, 2017, 10:33:11 PM
Post by: D15TIN on October 18, 2017, 10:47:01 PM
Desperate times for ticket sales, ive already got some, dont want anymoreshit isn't it, Lyon are quite a big name in football aswell- any other season we'd probably sell out
Post by: gizzblue on October 18, 2017, 10:57:40 PM
shit isn't it, Lyon are quite a big name in football aswell- any other season we'd probably sell outMaybe the board will wake the fuck up and see the supporters voting with their absences .
Post by: Gash on October 18, 2017, 11:19:06 PM
shit isn't it, Lyon are quite a big name in football aswell- any other season we'd probably sell out
No we wouldn't, I doubt we've had over 30,000 at a European game since Fiorentina nearly 10 years ago.
Post by: D15TIN on October 18, 2017, 11:35:41 PM
No we wouldn't, I doubt we've had over 30,000 at a European game since Fiorentina nearly 10 years ago.Could argue that Lyon are the biggest name weve played in Europe since Fiorentina
Post by: everton1952 on October 18, 2017, 11:48:37 PM
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 19, 2017, 12:04:22 AM
Shoukd be fun
Post by: Gash on October 19, 2017, 12:28:30 AM
Could argue that Lyon are the biggest name weve played in Europe since Fiorentina
Nah, there's many a stick to beat Koeman with, most of which I'm getting on board with but let's not try and make out that we'd be selling these games out if we were on a decent run when we've had less than 30,000 at pretty much every home European game in 10 years.
Post by: Polledreng on October 19, 2017, 12:49:25 AM
Could argue that Lyon are the biggest name weve played in Europe since Fiorentinawe have played WolfsburgSporting Lissabon and Benfica at home with only Benfica getting pass the 30.000 and that was only with about 700 or something
Post by: Macca77 on October 19, 2017, 01:02:47 AM
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 19, 2017, 01:27:38 AM
Be about 25000 there tomorrowThat Would be a big crowd
Post by: Ross on October 19, 2017, 01:29:52 AM
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 19, 2017, 01:37:21 AM
Weren't Rumbelows and Split in the mid 30's?That was when we wanted to see our new international gk, future England captain cb, great mf and future Spanish international cf
Not that long ago but how times change
Post by: Ross on October 19, 2017, 01:44:32 AM
That was when we wanted to see our new international gk, future England captain cb, great mf and future Spanish international cf
Not that long ago but how times change
Nearly 30k for the Limassol game wasn’t it?
Not really a stretch to think we’d be getting mid 30’s for a game against Lyon if we were doing well.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 19, 2017, 01:47:36 AM
So this was for me then?
That side has one holding midfielder. The only who holds that position positionally. His form is poor admittedly but needs must.
I dont recall, i think it was for Jamokachi.. i have no idea, i cant recall. Not much sleep the last week, lol.
Hope Schneiderlins form recovers asap.
Having DCL on the wing is so bad, i've seen a few posters put that formation up, He's the only real number 9 we have, we need him in the middle to stretch the play.
Post by: Gash on October 19, 2017, 01:47:54 AM
Nearly 30k for the Limassol game wasn’t it?
Not really a stretch to think we’d be getting mid 30’s for a game against Lyon if we were doing well.
The original point was in 'any other season we'd probably sell out', I just pointed out that we don't. Even a last 16 game against Kiev barely got 26k.
Post by: blue1948 on October 19, 2017, 01:54:45 AM
Nah, there's many a stick to beat Koeman with, most of which I'm getting on board with but let's not try and make out that we'd be selling these games out if we were on a decent run when we've had less than 30,000 at pretty much every home European game in 10 years.Everyone on here seems to forget that Koeman has been bought a very expensive rifle but they haven't given him any bullets .What exactly should he do when in reality he has no centre forward ,every team we play know we have the fire power that would struggle to bust a wet paper bag . I truly feel for him .Not as much as us but I do .
Post by: Gash on October 19, 2017, 02:14:26 AM
Everyone on here seems to forget that Koeman has been bought a very expensive rifle but they haven't given him any bullets .What exactly should he do when in reality he has no centre forward ,every team we play know we have the fire power that would struggle to bust a wet paper bag . I truly feel for him .Not as much as us but I do .
He said himself that we were too reliant on Lukaku's goals and he wanted players that would score from other areas of the pitch. We got those players in for him several of whom were his choice. For one reason or another they haven't all worked out but he should still be able to get far more from this group of players than he currently is.
That's the worry at the moment, we look awful and totally devoid of any ideas and the players don't look like they know what they're meant to be doing and it doesn't show any sign of changing from one game to the next.
Post by: brap2 on October 19, 2017, 02:24:34 AM
Nearly 30k for the Limassol game wasn’t it?
Not really a stretch to think we’d be getting mid 30’s for a game against Lyon if we were doing well.
Think we deffo would.
If we were doing well this year after spending a bit of doh with Rooney back and a stadium on the horizon we would be absolutely bouncing every game.
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 19, 2017, 02:33:32 AM
Nearly 30k for the Limassol game wasn't it?Gonna have to be a big walk up cos the os is showing a small sale
Not really a stretch to think we'd be getting mid 30's for a game against Lyon if we were doing well.
Post by: Sir Stealth on October 19, 2017, 03:11:36 AM
Hope we smash these tomorrow and get the season back on track
There's relentless negativity about the club at the moment and I'm ready to put it behind us starting tomorrow with a rousing win!
Post by: TheRam on October 19, 2017, 03:14:22 AM
Not arsed how shit we are, it's a boss game.
COYB
Post by: Tony Clifton on October 19, 2017, 03:42:19 AM
Nar fuck this, I'm looking forward to it
Hope we smash these tomorrow and get the season back on track
There's relentless negativity about the club at the moment and I'm ready to put it behind us starting tomorrow with a rousing win!
Yeah, I've had the proverbial knives out myself, adamant I was staying away... fuck it, I'm going to Goodison tomorrow to support my team.
Post by: blargins on October 19, 2017, 03:47:51 AM
Post by: Sir Stealth on October 19, 2017, 03:51:22 AM
I've just realised, I'm going to be out tomorrow afternoon. I get to miss the game! Woohoo!
What type of Evertonian are you?
The Revolution starts tomorrow and you are made up that you are missing it?!
Post by: blargins on October 19, 2017, 03:52:39 AM
What type of Evertonian are you?
The Revolution starts tomorrow and you are made up that you are missing it?!
A weary one lol
Post by: brap2 on October 19, 2017, 04:41:30 AM
Tomorrow night is the night Sandro Ramirez announces himself to Evertonians. Europa League hat trick incoming.
Post by: Tony Clifton on October 19, 2017, 04:56:50 AM
Right getting on this positivity train before it derails.
Tomorrow night is the night Sandro Ramirez announces himself to Evertonians. Europa League hat trick incoming.
That you Roberto? ;)
Post by: Macca77 on October 19, 2017, 05:11:37 AM
Few nice early tasty tackles to get the crowd goin followed by a couple of goals from us please Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 19, 2017, 05:22:35 AM
Post by: blue1948 on October 19, 2017, 10:39:40 AM
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 19, 2017, 01:19:23 PM
I have a gut feeling that Mirallas will fill his boots . This " we don't have time to train" will be found to have been a ruse . The team will suddenly click and all this negativity will dissipate .it's what everyone wants so let's hope so.
Post by: Robioto on October 19, 2017, 02:39:18 PM
Post by: Lxxx on October 19, 2017, 03:14:42 PM
No we wouldn't, I doubt we've had over 30,000 at a European game since Fiorentina nearly 10 years ago.
Lyon at home if we would have been playing well would have sold out, I’m pretty sure of that.
Post by: Macca77 on October 19, 2017, 03:33:32 PM
Lyon at home if we would have been playing well would have sold out, I’m pretty sure of that.
Deffo would have.
Interesting to see how many of the people on here moaning about the lack of ticket sales are actually going to the game tonight
Post by: Toddacelli on October 19, 2017, 04:36:53 PM
Only Everton have the power now to make it a happy, drunken, singing, loving Toddacelli that staggers up the stairs with a spring in his step, hope in his heart and a glint in his eye for the missus.
Or a weepy, miserable, snotty Toddacelli who just wants to curl up into ball and go to sleep.
Needless to say, the missus will probably be rooting for Lyon.
Post by: plumber on October 19, 2017, 05:20:59 PM
Post by: Lxxx on October 19, 2017, 08:47:59 PM
Post by: BlueForYou on October 19, 2017, 08:53:58 PM
And what about the other match? A convincing win for Atalanta?
Post by: School of Science on October 19, 2017, 09:29:21 PM
Post by: Macca77 on October 19, 2017, 09:31:52 PM
Keane and Jagielka not playing, fucksake when it rains it pours don't it.
Where have you heard this?
Post by: Toddacelli on October 19, 2017, 09:33:18 PM
Keane and Jagielka not playing, fucksake when it rains it pours don't it.
WHAT?
Who we going with? Besic & Holgate ffs?
Post by: BlueForYou on October 19, 2017, 09:37:05 PM
They're away today and still pretty new territory for them - Thursday/Sunday
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 19, 2017, 09:47:18 PM
Keane and Jagielka not playing, fucksake when it rains it pours don't it.Where's that off
Keane did the Presser yday didnt he
Please tell me you've not done a Todd and read the team news from our last game
Post by: Toddacelli on October 19, 2017, 10:04:54 PM
Where's that off
Keane did the Presser yday didnt he
Please tell me you've not done a Todd and read the team news from our last game
I hope he HAS!
Post by: Macca77 on October 19, 2017, 10:06:51 PM
Where's that off
Keane did the Presser yday didnt he
Please tell me you've not done a Todd and read the team news from our last game
Someone dozy twat did that the other day ;D
Post by: pjk on October 19, 2017, 10:41:23 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 19, 2017, 10:59:30 PM
http://www.espnfc.us/club/everton/368/blog/post/3233909/everton-must-find-three-points-against-lyon-in-europa-league-or-lose-all-remaining-optimism
Post by: School of Science on October 19, 2017, 11:14:06 PM
Post by: Sir Stealth on October 19, 2017, 11:14:22 PM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 19, 2017, 11:22:24 PM
We're in all blue tonight, be a bit odd seeing that at home
Perhaps we have adopted the American/NFL "colour rush" uniform tradition for Thursday Night football. Christ, I hope not.
/the other bloody Yanks should get a laugh about this
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 19, 2017, 11:23:20 PM
Hope I'm wrong here and am a dory twat, ( lol ) but it was on the sky team news, I'm sure it said Keane and Jagielka to miss tonight's game. How reliable are sky ?
Maybe they know that koeman will play all his number tens centrally, I guess thats what he meant by playing Vlasic centrally.. Centre back Vlasic along with Klaassen. Rooney and Sig in the centre of midfield!
i found away we can incorporate them all in to a team.. oh and Barkley behind DCL :D
Post by: Heisenberg on October 20, 2017, 12:18:33 AM
Post by: Paddockoldie on October 20, 2017, 12:28:54 AM
Maybe they know that koeman will play all his number tens centrally, I guess thats what he meant by playing Vlasic centrally.. Centre back Vlasic along with Klaassen. Rooney and Sig in the centre of midfield!
i found away we can incorporate them all in to a team.. oh and Barkley behind DCL :D
Vlasic is in goal because Ronnie thinks Pickford could be a decent number 10 given the chance....
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 12:35:45 AM
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 20, 2017, 12:37:45 AM
Post by: ally2 on October 20, 2017, 12:45:50 AM
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 12:49:40 AM
Post by: Realist on October 20, 2017, 12:52:30 AM
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on October 20, 2017, 12:57:47 AM
Lyon are almost 3/1 I'm putting 500 on them, free money
Who’ve you robbed to get that? Coz your level of intelligence couldn’t earn you that money.
Post by: Coyb12 on October 20, 2017, 12:59:10 AM
Lyon are almost 3/1 I'm putting 500 on them, free moneyShow the bet when you do.
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 20, 2017, 01:00:33 AM
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 20, 2017, 01:01:03 AM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/921073198929776641
Post by: Realist on October 20, 2017, 01:01:53 AM
Who’ve you robbed to get that? Coz your level of intelligence couldn’t earn you that money.
Ahaha I could buy and sell your arse - that's peanuts
Post by: Realist on October 20, 2017, 01:02:44 AM
Post by: blob on October 20, 2017, 01:03:01 AM
Post by: blargins on October 20, 2017, 01:03:22 AM
Glad to see the Gana Schneiderlin parntership broken up.
Post by: Robioto on October 20, 2017, 01:05:21 AM
But Williams and Martina playing and Holgate out of position at LB... Can't see us keeping a clean sheet.
Post by: dazfrancis on October 20, 2017, 01:06:12 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 01:07:12 AM
Really happy with the front 6.
But Williams and Martina playing and Holgate out of position at LB... Can't see us keeping a clean sheet.
Wait, isn't Cuco playing LB?
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 01:07:42 AM
Post by: Robioto on October 20, 2017, 01:08:47 AM
Wait, isn't Cuco playing LB?
RB on the facebook post? They may have cocked it up.
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22688437_10154779763686277_7251688988116186523_n.jpg?oh=2645133eba39c475f929993f80becd0f&oe=5A7FA0E8)
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 01:09:10 AM
Ahaha I could buy and sell your arse - that's peanuts
You a pimp, bro? 🤔
Post by: Goaljira on October 20, 2017, 01:10:07 AM
Post by: gizzblue on October 20, 2017, 01:10:37 AM
COYB now.
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 01:11:11 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 01:11:24 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 01:11:35 AM
Hope so, we could really do with it.
Post by: ally2 on October 20, 2017, 01:14:43 AM
Post by: Shogun on October 20, 2017, 01:17:52 AM
Williams and Martina is guaranteed to ship at least two goals.
Post by: Sir Stealth on October 20, 2017, 01:17:53 AM
Let's hope the graphic is indeed just cocked up. Holgate at LB (for the first time ever in a crucial Europa tie) sounds like a recipe for disaster.
He played left back against Sunderland the other week and he did fine there
Obviously they aren't as good as Lyon
Post by: Ross on October 20, 2017, 01:18:50 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 01:19:09 AM
He played left back against Sunderland the other week and he did fine there
Obviously they aren't as good as Lyon
He did? Totally missed that.
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 20, 2017, 01:20:07 AM
He did? Totally missed that.
He did pretty well but all about the opposition isnt it.
Post by: ally2 on October 20, 2017, 01:20:18 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 01:21:38 AM
Post by: kramer0 on October 20, 2017, 01:23:17 AM
I'd be ecstatic with that if it wasn't for Cuco. We better have a solid plan for protecting/covering for him or he isn't making it out of this one alive.
Post by: Heisenberg on October 20, 2017, 01:23:17 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 01:23:28 AM
So what's going on here then? Are we resting players or dropping them for being shite? Its very hard to tell.
Yes?
I'd like to think he's sending a message to Rooney by leaving him out of the squad completely, but realistically Koeman's probably saying he's too good to be on the bench if he's being rested as a starter.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 20, 2017, 01:23:39 AM
=
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/921073198929776641
and to think i put a bet on Everton to win earlier in the day ;/ why is Ashley playing!!
rest of the teams nice tho, i like we're using our squad finally!
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 01:23:41 AM
Pace and width eh?
Yup, that's Cuco Martina.
Not sure Mirallas ever gives width or provides pace these days.
Vlasic will hopefully; he's certainly a strong runner, not sure if he's a whippet or much of a byline hitter, but we'll see.
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 20, 2017, 01:24:58 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 01:25:10 AM
I hate mirralas and I'm made up he's starting. Says it all about this season
I agree completely. Mirallas is, if nothing else, known for pulling random goal bursts out of his arse. If he's disinterested, you put Lookman on at halftime.
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 01:27:43 AM
Post by: john e on October 20, 2017, 01:29:07 AM
Post by: ally2 on October 20, 2017, 01:31:05 AM
Post by: blob on October 20, 2017, 01:32:08 AM
Post by: TheRam on October 20, 2017, 01:33:20 AM
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on October 20, 2017, 01:33:34 AM
Lyon
1Lopes
23Tete
6Guedes Filho
5Diakhaby
20Marçal
29Tousart
8Aouar
10Traoré
18Fekir
11Depay
17Maolida
Can't say i know too many - 5 1st teamers supposed to be missing
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 01:35:17 AM
Hey, Kate Abdo is here, at least!
Post by: kramer0 on October 20, 2017, 01:35:50 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 01:36:29 AM
I feel a bit sorry for Williams. If he drops another clanger the crowd are going to crucify him. He'll need a bigger shirt to disappear into.
I think Williams comes good today. Like a good redemption story, and the side overall is better and I believe will help lift him up.
Post by: bluenuck on October 20, 2017, 01:37:04 AM
Lyon Team:
Lyon
1Lopes
23Tete
6Guedes Filho
5Diakhaby
20Marçal
29Tousart
8Aouar
10Traoré
18Fekir
11Depay
17Maolida
Can't say i know too many - 5 1st teamers supposed to be missing
I will be watching Diakhaby. Young centre back. A player I hope our scouts will be watching tonight.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 01:37:39 AM
They're a bit of a mess but that attacking midfield three - Depay/Fekir/Traore - is quality. Especially Fekir.
How should we attack him, ya think? Vlasic?
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 01:41:22 AM
Post by: pjk on October 20, 2017, 01:41:46 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 01:44:13 AM
Post by: School of Science on October 20, 2017, 01:44:29 AM
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 01:45:23 AM
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 01:45:30 AM
Would be just lovely for us to get the first goal, and win well.
cant see it tho
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 20, 2017, 01:46:07 AM
Well played with the midfield and forward adjustments.He did say in the presser that Kenny was struggling for fitness and would be assessed. Baines can’t play twice a week so someone needs to come in for him. Holgate at LB means Martina is only RB left!
I'd be ecstatic with that if it wasn't for Cuco. We better have a solid plan for protecting/covering for him or he isn't making it out of this one alive.
Agree, glad he’s dropped a DM and happy with mid/forwards.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 01:47:40 AM
He did say in the presser that Kenny was struggling for fitness and would be assessed. Baines can’t play twice a week so someone needs to come in for him. Holgate at LB means Martina is only RB left!
Agree, glad he’s dropped a DM and happy with mid/forwards.
That sucks re Kenny, but glad there's a rational explanation.
Post by: Realist on October 20, 2017, 01:47:52 AM
Giroud just scored a worldy, get him here in January!!
Not gonna happen
Post by: Silas on October 20, 2017, 01:48:21 AM
Post by: kramer0 on October 20, 2017, 01:48:45 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 01:49:09 AM
Giroud just scored a worldy, get him here in January!!
I still can't believe so many people don't think he would have improved anything here. We put in so many crosses, have nobody to finish. Giroud would be wonderful here, might specifically elevate Sigurdsson.
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 01:49:28 AM
Post by: Jamokachi on October 20, 2017, 01:50:00 AM
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 01:50:04 AM
Not gonna happen
Let me down gently why don't you
Post by: Silas on October 20, 2017, 01:50:16 AM
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 01:52:09 AM
Post by: Realist on October 20, 2017, 01:53:18 AM
Let me down gently why don't you
Sorry pal
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 01:56:46 AM
It's positive and I'm all for that. If we get tonked so be it at least he has finally put out a side that should be able to get forward
100% agreed. He's at least reducing his stubbornness and trying to adapt.
Post by: Jamokachi on October 20, 2017, 01:58:21 AM
Normal streams people laptop died so watching on my phone
http://streamhunter.top/soccer/everton-vs-olympique-lyon-sht553a08a?l=3409940410
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 01:59:57 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:00:06 AM
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Post by: Audrey Horne on October 20, 2017, 02:04:05 AM
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Post by: Audrey Horne on October 20, 2017, 02:04:19 AM
Post by: Cozzie on October 20, 2017, 02:04:57 AM
Post by: blob on October 20, 2017, 02:05:00 AM
This is going to be a tough game. Anyone know why Rooney has been dropped??
saved for sunday...allegedly.
Post by: Jamokachi on October 20, 2017, 02:05:01 AM
STREAMMMMMSSS?
http://streamhunter.top/soccer/everton-vs-olympique-lyon-sht553a08a?l=3409940410
Post by: blargins on October 20, 2017, 02:05:24 AM
Come on you bastards. Let's get a winning feeling again.
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 20, 2017, 02:06:11 AM
http://streamhunter.top/soccer/everton-vs-olympique-lyon-sht553a08a?l=3409940410
Cant wait the American one. Hate it.
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 02:06:16 AM
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 02:06:23 AM
Post by: Cozzie on October 20, 2017, 02:06:32 AM
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Post by: Audrey Horne on October 20, 2017, 02:06:48 AM
Post by: Cozzie on October 20, 2017, 02:06:56 AM
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 02:07:14 AM
http://www.navixsport.com/sport.php?id=3160&page=nlslksslkayslkla
safe to un-adblock?
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 20, 2017, 02:07:22 AM
STREAMMMMMSSS?http://cricfree.sc/watch/live/everton-vs-olympique-lyonnais-live-streaming
Post by: chang on October 20, 2017, 02:07:33 AM
http://cricfree.sc/watch/live/everton-vs-olympique-lyonnais-live-streaming
Post by: Tinga on October 20, 2017, 02:08:30 AM
Forgot Memphis Depay plays for these.
More worried about Fekir.
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 02:09:21 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:09:25 AM
No idea why I'm watching this. I think I enjoy the pain of it all, secretly.
It's Everton, we love even when it's difficult.
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 02:09:36 AM
Pity about the defence.
Post by: sixymack on October 20, 2017, 02:10:05 AM
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 02:10:17 AM
safe to un-adblock?
Yep fine here.
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 02:10:28 AM
Post by: blob on October 20, 2017, 02:11:09 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 02:11:10 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:11:19 AM
Post by: blargins on October 20, 2017, 02:11:22 AM
Post by: sixymack on October 20, 2017, 02:11:33 AM
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 02:11:41 AM
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Post by: Audrey Horne on October 20, 2017, 02:11:53 AM
Post by: blargins on October 20, 2017, 02:12:01 AM
Post by: Martip on October 20, 2017, 02:12:11 AM
Holgate concedes a penalty. FUCK EVERYTHING.He's been shite all season.
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 02:12:18 AM
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 02:12:22 AM
Post by: Tinga on October 20, 2017, 02:12:25 AM
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 02:12:27 AM
Yep fine here.
Great stream straight into a penalty!
Post by: Bluedylan on October 20, 2017, 02:12:36 AM
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 20, 2017, 02:12:40 AM
Post by: pjk on October 20, 2017, 02:12:42 AM
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 02:12:44 AM
Post by: Robioto on October 20, 2017, 02:12:46 AM
Depressing...
Post by: kramer0 on October 20, 2017, 02:12:49 AM
Post by: BlueBeagle on October 20, 2017, 02:13:03 AM
Post by: Gash on October 20, 2017, 02:13:06 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:13:11 AM
Post by: Tinga on October 20, 2017, 02:13:29 AM
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 02:13:35 AM
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 02:13:36 AM
Post by: Cozzie on October 20, 2017, 02:13:40 AM
Plenty of time.
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 02:13:49 AM
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 02:14:02 AM
Post by: Bluedylan on October 20, 2017, 02:14:07 AM
Post by: School of Science on October 20, 2017, 02:14:36 AM
Post by: blue slug on October 20, 2017, 02:14:52 AM
Gordon Ramsey on cocaine on at 9 lads
Think I will be by 8.15
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:15:01 AM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 02:15:06 AM
Post by: Mayor Farnum on October 20, 2017, 02:15:09 AM
Post by: Zoolander on October 20, 2017, 02:15:27 AM
These days though - meh - that’s us fucked
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 02:15:55 AM
Post by: Martip on October 20, 2017, 02:15:59 AM
Getting completely outplayed before the pen as well.We are a terrible football team
Post by: Bluedylan on October 20, 2017, 02:16:04 AM
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 02:16:11 AM
Gordon Ramsey on cocaine on at 9 lads
i started at kick off
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:16:11 AM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 02:16:16 AM
Get a grip people, the game is 5 mins old.
Plenty of time.
I think peoples issue is more about 15 shocking 90 minutes in a row
Post by: Bigstickytoffee on October 20, 2017, 02:16:16 AM
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 20, 2017, 02:16:23 AM
First time i've said it but i think he needs to go, absolutely had enough of this.
We have no fight under him and look garbage
Post by: Tinga on October 20, 2017, 02:16:36 AM
Post by: Robioto on October 20, 2017, 02:16:44 AM
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 02:16:45 AM
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 02:16:53 AM
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 02:16:55 AM
Klaassen seemingly getting groaned at for passing it back there too. Not going to help the confidence.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:16:56 AM
Oh brilliant/ Finished my pre match shit (I think it might be symbolism) and come in to find weve managed to concede already. What the fuck happened
How appropriate, we were having a shit on the pitch ourselves.
Post by: Heisenberg on October 20, 2017, 02:16:57 AM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 02:18:04 AM
To be fair they were always going to score, we were always going to need at least 2 to win this. Let's hope that gives us an early kick up the arse and not late on in the game when we've less time to do anything about it.
I think a goal early on tends to increase the likelihood that they get more than 1
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 02:18:31 AM
mentality of our players is shit. Bunch of losers the lot of them
They really are. All so fucking passive.
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 02:18:32 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:18:34 AM
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Post by: Cozzie on October 20, 2017, 02:20:34 AM
Post by: Ball8y on October 20, 2017, 02:20:48 AM
Post by: Bluedylan on October 20, 2017, 02:21:02 AM
All Koeman.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 02:21:23 AM
Post by: blargins on October 20, 2017, 02:21:33 AM
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 02:21:35 AM
Feel sorry for Klaassen.
i dont feel sorry for any of them, they get paid millions for this shite
Post by: Tinga on October 20, 2017, 02:21:52 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 02:22:13 AM
Post by: Realist on October 20, 2017, 02:22:34 AM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 02:22:46 AM
i dont feel sorry for any of them, they get paid millions for this shite
Yeah I feel sorry for us. We have to watch this fucking shite
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 02:23:07 AM
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 02:24:27 AM
Every single one of our players look backwards all the time
Confidence is at rock bottom, no one willing or able to take responsibility on Koeman that one.
Post by: Bluedylan on October 20, 2017, 02:24:29 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:24:56 AM
Giroud would not have made all of this look alright
But we wouldn't all be headless chickens on the pitch if we had a legitimate striker. Everyone would be more settled in their roles and not press so fucking much. Sort of a domino effect.
Not saying we'd be great, just surely not this awful.
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 02:24:59 AM
Post by: blob on October 20, 2017, 02:25:04 AM
Post by: kramer0 on October 20, 2017, 02:25:12 AM
The positioning. Constantly trying to build through the fullbacks. Everything about it, really.
Post by: Heisenberg on October 20, 2017, 02:25:16 AM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 02:25:21 AM
I'm starting to think we're just a bit shit and it's not Koeman. lolol
I actually think we are. Koeman as well but weve an awful lot of players who arent up to it
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 20, 2017, 02:25:41 AM
Post by: Realist on October 20, 2017, 02:26:14 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:26:39 AM
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 02:26:56 AM
Davies is piss poor tonight so far. He'll charge for a ball whichll endear him to the fans but he's got no conposure.
Yeah he is having one of his yappy dog games.
Post by: Smingers on October 20, 2017, 02:27:04 AM
Post by: Realist on October 20, 2017, 02:27:31 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:27:46 AM
Our possession play is hilarious.
The positioning. Constantly trying to build through the fullbacks. Everything about it, really.
Headless chickens. Nobody has a clue what to do, attack-wise (except maybe Vlasic). All Koeman.
Post by: DannyR on October 20, 2017, 02:27:52 AM
Highlight of the game is seeing arteta in the stands. Hope he's got his boots he might need go come on for klassen
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 20, 2017, 02:28:05 AM
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 02:28:21 AM
Giroud would not have made all of this look alright
I think Lukaku, as well as his goals, he did give them all confidence that if we attack someone would finish it off.
Now they're like, 'what's the point, we wont score...'
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 02:28:26 AM
And it's in no way, shape or form acceptable not to have a "Plan B" for Giroud, or really to have planned to rely on him with no apprentice/backup in the squad. Which apparently was a Koeman thing, not a Walsh thing (if I read the tea leaves correctly).
If plan A was this lot and Giroud then that wouldnt be that much better than this shite. Someone in charge, perhaps everyone in charge appear to have zero clue what the fuck they are doing
Post by: Bluedylan on October 20, 2017, 02:28:27 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 02:28:41 AM
No movement whatsover when we have the ball.
Indeed, even without the ball our pressing is sporadic and token.
We used to ask "what do they do in training?" under Martinez.
Well, I really want to know what we do in training under Koeman, because slick, quick passing, pressing, getting to the byline, through-balls, and pass and move certainly seem pretty alien to our players.
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 20, 2017, 02:29:00 AM
Since DCL broke up with that tart he was with he's gone to shit.
I must've missed the bit where he was good.
Post by: Realist on October 20, 2017, 02:29:04 AM
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 02:29:42 AM
Post by: Tinga on October 20, 2017, 02:29:45 AM
Since DCL broke up with that tart he was with he's gone to shit.
Highlight of the game is seeing arteta in the stands. Hope he's got his boots he might need go come on for klassen
Probably was some pretty good pussy to be fair.
Post by: Martip on October 20, 2017, 02:30:01 AM
Feel sorry for Klaassen.Why cause he's shit ?
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 20, 2017, 02:30:09 AM
We're embarrassing compared to the rest of the English teams in Europe
Post by: Realist on October 20, 2017, 02:30:35 AM
Post by: Cozzie on October 20, 2017, 02:30:41 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:30:44 AM
Post by: Polledreng on October 20, 2017, 02:30:57 AM
Post by: ally2 on October 20, 2017, 02:31:06 AM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 02:31:21 AM
I must've missed the bit where he was good.
Me too. Hes done nowt all season. Hes got 1 league goal in what must be 20 games over 2 seasons. Probably not our Harry Kane
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:31:32 AM
Post by: Tinga on October 20, 2017, 02:31:32 AM
If we lose this and then Arsenal he's off
We're embarrassing compared to the rest of the English teams in Europe
and then? he should have left weeks ago.
Post by: Realist on October 20, 2017, 02:31:38 AM
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 20, 2017, 02:31:39 AM
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 02:31:47 AM
If we lose this and then Arsenal he's off
We're embarrassing compared to the rest of the English teams in Europe
we are embarrasing compared to any prem team atm
Post by: Martip on October 20, 2017, 02:32:11 AM
DCL had a run of 3 or 4 matches when everyone was giving him 8s or 9s, earlier in the season.I haven't seen it tbh....all effort and no end product
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 02:32:19 AM
If we lose this and then Arsenal he's off
We're embarrassing compared to the rest of the English teams in Europe
We are embarrassing compared to pretty much every english side weve played too
Post by: april on October 20, 2017, 02:32:26 AM
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 20, 2017, 02:32:34 AM
Me too. Hes done nowt all season. Hes got 1 league goal in what must be 20 games over 2 seasons. Probably not our Harry Kane
It's almost as if he scored one goal in a very high profile under-20s game and people have read too much into it.
Post by: Heisenberg on October 20, 2017, 02:32:34 AM
Post by: Realist on October 20, 2017, 02:33:08 AM
Post by: blargins on October 20, 2017, 02:33:08 AM
Post by: Martip on October 20, 2017, 02:33:23 AM
This is worse than Martinez. Nothing enjoyable about it at allSo much worse.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 02:33:36 AM
DCL had a run of 3 or 4 matches when everyone was giving him 8s or 9s, earlier in the season.
Because people are daft. I doubt hes played an 8 for us
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 02:33:43 AM
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 02:33:45 AM
We were equally hopeless in 1983 until Peter Reid and Andy Gray came along.
Trouble is finding them and nowadays not being able to get them til January.
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 20, 2017, 02:33:49 AM
and then? he should have left weeks ago.
And then nothing
We'll just try and climb the table and hope for a cup run,
Not mush else we can hope for
Post by: Goaljira on October 20, 2017, 02:33:55 AM
Post by: Realist on October 20, 2017, 02:34:01 AM
Post by: Tinga on October 20, 2017, 02:34:05 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:34:14 AM
This is worse than Martinez. Nothing enjoyable about it at all
It's the attack of Moyes era, combined with the defending of the Martinez era. Worst of both worlds.
Post by: bluenuck on October 20, 2017, 02:34:50 AM
I wish we played like Lyon
I have thought this basically every game we've played this season. And we've played the likes of Burnley and Appollo-whatever...
Post by: Thomas on October 20, 2017, 02:34:53 AM
Our movement, Ashley Williams and Schenderlin are shit.
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 02:34:57 AM
Post by: Paddockoldie on October 20, 2017, 02:35:08 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:35:16 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 02:35:20 AM
If we lose this and then Arsenal he's off
We're embarrassing compared to the rest of the English teams in Europe
I really think he will still be in this job for a lot longer than we all think
Post by: blargins on October 20, 2017, 02:35:59 AM
Calvert Lewin is the new Cadamarteri
At least Cadamarteri scored.
Post by: Cozzie on October 20, 2017, 02:36:21 AM
Don't think he will ever be able to get us playing.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:36:39 AM
Post by: Tinga on October 20, 2017, 02:37:06 AM
I really think he will still be in this job for a lot longer than we all think
Can't wait for Bristol City away then next season.
Post by: Martip on October 20, 2017, 02:37:16 AM
I really think he will still be in this job for a lot longer than we all thinkI don t see how he's done probably as bad a job as he could have.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:37:38 AM
Post by: april on October 20, 2017, 02:37:53 AM
Post by: blob on October 20, 2017, 02:38:04 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 02:38:10 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:38:14 AM
At least Cadamarteri scored.
Don't rub it in about the bird, FFS!
Post by: toffee_scot on October 20, 2017, 02:38:34 AM
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 02:38:40 AM
Post by: Bluedylan on October 20, 2017, 02:38:58 AM
Thing is, he has sort of changed not only the players but the system tonight, using wingers and we are still just as shit.
Don't think he will ever be able to get us playing.
Because it's all completely random and arbitrary. There's no pattern of play. It's effectively getting 11 strangers to run around a bit of grass vs a football team.
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 02:39:11 AM
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 20, 2017, 02:39:21 AM
I really think he will still be in this job for a lot longer than we all think
Out of Europe and probably in the bottom 4?
Nah the board will have to act, supporter pressure will be enormous
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 02:39:27 AM
I don t see how he's done probably as bad a job as he could have.
Moshiri is already making stupid excuses for him. He isnt going anywhere for a long time. He'll get chance to sign another 3 or 4 number 10s in the next window while selling our best 1
Post by: Tinga on October 20, 2017, 02:39:32 AM
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 02:39:40 AM
We are starting to play better, Mirallas looks up for this.
thats kev getting subbed at half time then
Post by: blargins on October 20, 2017, 02:39:59 AM
watching all those old 80s EFC videos on YouTube, we actually fucking scored off corners then. Even sideline throws.
Gary Stevens was great at the long throws.
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 20, 2017, 02:40:25 AM
Everton 0-1 Lyon
This is easy for Lyon, so, so easy. No pressure on the ball, time and space, nobody tracking runs. Tom Davies gets frustrated and barges Bertrand Traore over with a bodycheck.
Everton have got to change something.'
Aye, the fucking manager,
Post by: Tinga on October 20, 2017, 02:40:47 AM
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 02:40:54 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 02:41:06 AM
That must be a tactical choice.
It seems like only the full-backs are encouraged to occasionally get to the byline.
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 20, 2017, 02:41:18 AM
thats kev getting subbed at half time thenYep Koeman won't have that.
Post by: Martip on October 20, 2017, 02:41:42 AM
Post by: kramer0 on October 20, 2017, 02:41:50 AM
Post by: brap2 on October 20, 2017, 02:42:25 AM
Unfortunately Klaassen still pulling the disappearing midfielder trick.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:42:48 AM
Wish Gylfi was out there instead of Klaassen.
and Gana for Schneiderlin
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 02:43:01 AM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 02:43:18 AM
Wish Gylfi was out there instead of Klaassen.
Christ its rock bottom!!
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 02:43:27 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:43:28 AM
Post by: Robioto on October 20, 2017, 02:43:28 AM
Post by: Martip on October 20, 2017, 02:43:48 AM
That rain is symbolic to my feelings of Everton right now.I'm more thunder and lightning
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 02:44:00 AM
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 20, 2017, 02:44:03 AM
Post by: kramer0 on October 20, 2017, 02:44:12 AM
Much better positional sense.
Post by: Realist on October 20, 2017, 02:44:25 AM
Post by: brap2 on October 20, 2017, 02:44:48 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 02:45:10 AM
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 20, 2017, 02:45:26 AM
He's gone from a bad team to an even worse one
Post by: Tinga on October 20, 2017, 02:45:30 AM
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 02:45:54 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 02:46:01 AM
Post by: kramer0 on October 20, 2017, 02:46:04 AM
I like it.
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 02:46:05 AM
Schneiderlin & Klassen - £50m - 😂😂😂
Gylfi £45m
thats 95m of shite
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:46:11 AM
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 20, 2017, 02:46:15 AM
What does Koeman see in Martina, serious question
Raise you a what does he not see in Lookman or any of the younger players.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 02:46:25 AM
Martina is one of the worst players I've seen in an Everton shirt in at least the last decade.
Im not convinced hes been any worse than Baines this season. Obviously we arent allowed to say that though
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 02:46:55 AM
Klaassen looked boss on Youtube, can we have that player please?
yer go watch youtube
Post by: Paddockoldie on October 20, 2017, 02:47:08 AM
Post by: Martip on October 20, 2017, 02:47:17 AM
He got 20 goals last year apparently..The standard of that league must have been dreadful
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 02:47:21 AM
Post by: kramer0 on October 20, 2017, 02:47:34 AM
Im not convinced hes been any worse than Baines this season. Obviously we arent allowed to say that though
Disagree. Baines, at the absolute least, knows where to stand. Martina doesn't have a clue.
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 02:47:40 AM
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 02:47:45 AM
Im not convinced hes been any worse than Baines this season. Obviously we arent allowed to say that though
he has been so much worse than baines
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:48:02 AM
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 02:48:13 AM
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 20, 2017, 02:48:26 AM
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 20, 2017, 02:48:37 AM
Total let off that
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 02:48:44 AM
Disagree. Baines, at the absolute least, knows where to stand. Martina doesn't have a clue.
Both been shite though. Martina has at least been an attacking outlet (all be it a shit 1)
Post by: Heisenberg on October 20, 2017, 02:49:21 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 02:49:26 AM
Post by: Martip on October 20, 2017, 02:49:55 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:50:00 AM
That's miles ahead of Cuco.
Post by: Major Clanger on October 20, 2017, 02:50:06 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 02:50:15 AM
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 02:50:36 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 02:50:50 AM
These Lyon players spend an awful lot of time on the floor. I'm looking at you, Pinapple Head.
They're probably as bored as us to be fair
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:51:12 AM
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 02:51:35 AM
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 20, 2017, 02:51:40 AM
Post by: duncandisorderly on October 20, 2017, 02:52:08 AM
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 02:52:24 AM
Post by: Cozzie on October 20, 2017, 02:52:39 AM
Post by: Martip on October 20, 2017, 02:52:44 AM
The forward play is slightly better than lately. But still no final ball or striker to build around.Not saying much is it
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 02:52:52 AM
Doing alright now should be at least level
Should we? Theyve been much the better side for me
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 20, 2017, 02:53:06 AM
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 02:53:09 AM
Post by: Major Clanger on October 20, 2017, 02:53:28 AM
The forward play is slightly better than lately. But still no final ball or striker to build around.
Imagine if we also had an actual footballer on instead of Klaassen.
Post by: chang on October 20, 2017, 02:53:31 AM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 02:53:37 AM
Still think despite the tactics I cannot actually believe we never bought a center forward.
Its staggering. We cant actually field a proper 11. Inept
Post by: Heisenberg on October 20, 2017, 02:53:43 AM
I also dont get Schniderline at all. What does he do
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 20, 2017, 02:53:47 AM
Post by: Thomas on October 20, 2017, 02:54:18 AM
All well and good having wingers on, but they really have nothing to aim for do they.He is proper overrated MS.
I also dont get Schniderline at all. What does he do
Post by: brap2 on October 20, 2017, 02:54:21 AM
Klaassen I am worried, maybe Koeman is right and it might take him a year to get up to speed. Really wanted it to work but he strikes me as the kind of AM that fits like a cog into a team playing well but isn't able to affect a team playing poorly.
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 02:54:21 AM
Should we? Theyve been much the better side for me
its an imptovement on the last 10 or so matches, still wank tho, this must be what womens football is like
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:54:22 AM
And that was obvious to each and every one of us in August, so not just hindsight being 20/20.
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 20, 2017, 02:54:34 AM
Cuco beaten like a rented mule there. Might as well not been on the pitch.3rd choice RB playing at LB...
Post by: april on October 20, 2017, 02:54:52 AM
Fekir looks a playerWell the only way we can cope with that is by buying him.
Post by: Paddockoldie on October 20, 2017, 02:55:04 AM
Cant decide if I hate Holgates defensive or attacking work more
I had big hopes for this kid but he's gone proper shit. Confidence player
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 20, 2017, 02:55:08 AM
I wonder if DCL's bird dumped him because he couldn't finish? Would be proper gutted though... like cut wrists/OD/hanging/drowning/standing on a bridge guttedHe said she was beautiful but had a really baggy fanny.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 02:55:11 AM
Perspective - we haven’t actually been that bad. Bad decision making in final 3rd and Holgate having a mare.
Highlight of our season is "we havent actually been THAT bad" what sort of perspective should we take from that
Post by: toffee_scot on October 20, 2017, 02:55:22 AM
Keep it going, the fans and players will be feeding off each other's energy.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:55:38 AM
Do like footy in the rain.
Snow would be better, but it's mid-October and not Iceland so I will take what I can get.
Post by: Major Clanger on October 20, 2017, 02:55:40 AM
We do know that Schneiderlin can be very good and he hasn't been bad tonight actually.
Klaassen I am worried, maybe Koeman is right and it might take him a year to get up to speed. Really wanted it to work but he strikes me as the kind of AM that fits like a cog into a team playing well but isn't able to affect a team playing poorly.
Let's face it, he's basically a shit Dirk Kuyt.
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 20, 2017, 02:55:59 AM
Going into a season with European football sans fullback cover was pure malpractice. You can see that on display today.Which is why I always say Walsh should be more culpable and get more shit than he does. His job is to give the manager the tools to do the job.
And that was obvious to each and every one of us in August, so not just hindsight being 20/20.
Post by: TheTone on October 20, 2017, 02:56:08 AM
Post by: Ross on October 20, 2017, 02:56:34 AM
Really need to carry that into the second half and get an early goal.
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 02:57:15 AM
3rd choice RB playing at LB...
Exactly. And any free transfer Soton reject shouldnt be anywhere near our first team.
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 20, 2017, 02:57:15 AM
Highlight of our season is "we havent actually been THAT bad" what sort of perspective should we take from thatAgreed - but people just enjoy us being shit and revel in it.
Post by: velimski on October 20, 2017, 02:57:39 AM
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 02:57:39 AM
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 20, 2017, 02:57:47 AM
Exactly. And any free transfer Soton reject shouldnt be anywhere near our first team....unless everyone else is injured...
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:57:55 AM
Could eventually take both off if Baines comes on and move Davies back, but that means can only take Klaassen off up front.
Post by: Paddockoldie on October 20, 2017, 02:58:39 AM
Do like footy in the rain.
That's tears mate. The sky's clear
Post by: Jamokachi on October 20, 2017, 02:58:40 AM
Less said about Martina the better really, he evidently has no left foot, so it's an odd one to have him out there.
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 02:58:42 AM
Perspective - we haven’t actually been that bad. Bad decision making in final 3rd and Holgate having a mare.
We just don't really look like scoring barring a mistake.
Davies pass to Mirallas was pretty much the only opportunity we produced that was a threat from open play.
Post by: Cozzie on October 20, 2017, 02:58:56 AM
Post by: Major Clanger on October 20, 2017, 02:59:05 AM
Which is why I always say Walsh should be more culpable and get more shit than he does. His job is to give the manager the tools to do the job.
I doubt it was Walsh insisting that we must get Sigurdsson at all costs.
Post by: Bluedylan on October 20, 2017, 02:59:21 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 02:59:45 AM
Which is why I always say Walsh should be more culpable and get more shit than he does. His job is to give the manager the tools to do the job.
Agreed. I gather Koeman is at least 80% responsible for the striker problem (tea leaves, again), but I don't see how the fullback situation falls on anyone but Walsh. Really poor planning/lack of foresight.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 03:00:46 AM
Post by: School of Science on October 20, 2017, 03:00:59 AM
Post by: blargins on October 20, 2017, 03:01:11 AM
Best result of the day :)
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 03:01:31 AM
I doubt it was Walsh insisting that we must get Sigurdsson at all costs.
Exactly. I think Koeman has insisted on a lot of the first team players and they arent good enough
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 03:01:34 AM
Post by: kramer0 on October 20, 2017, 03:01:39 AM
Missed opportunity not starting Sigurdsson, especially since his best performance for us came in the second half against Limassol where he played more of a central box-to-box role. Tough choice between Rooney/Sigurdsson to replace Klaassen in the second half.
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 03:01:55 AM
Post by: Bluedylan on October 20, 2017, 03:02:04 AM
Weve got some massively overhyped youngsters. Holgate and DCL.... Both a bit shit. Weve talked about them as if they are gonna be worldbeaters
Neither shit nor worldbeaters. Both very good young players.
Post by: Major Clanger on October 20, 2017, 03:02:36 AM
Thought we were utter garbage again, with no real positives.
Tempo was a bit better and Davies and Mirallas seem to be on the same wavelength. That's about it.
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 03:02:41 AM
Klaassen isn't concerned with getting on the ball. His game is all about off-the-ball movement and creating space, either for himself or for his teammates (see Rooney's goal against Stoke for a prime example). There's a time and place for that but unfortunately, it's not tonight.
Missed opportunity not starting Sigurdsson, especially since his best performance for us came in the second half against Limassol where he played more of a central box-to-box role. Tough choice between Rooney/Sigurdsson to replace Klaassen in the second half.
Rooney isn't in the squad
Post by: Confucius on October 20, 2017, 03:02:44 AM
Wait...DCL broke up with the girl in the pics? Poor boy.
What, when?
Post by: ally2 on October 20, 2017, 03:02:53 AM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 03:03:07 AM
Thought we were utter garbage again, with no real positives.
Weve got so bad now that people count showing a bit of energy as a good performance. Weve done fuck all and looked completely open when theyve countered
Post by: Lxxx on October 20, 2017, 03:03:24 AM
Post by: kramer0 on October 20, 2017, 03:03:32 AM
Rooney isn't in the squad
That certainly makes the choice easier.
Post by: Waltzer on October 20, 2017, 03:03:49 AM
Surely Luke Garbutt would be a better option at left back than Martina?Surely Sagna would be a better right back that Martina, isn't he still free?
Post by: velimski on October 20, 2017, 03:03:53 AM
Klaassen isn't concerned with getting on the ball. His game is all about off-the-ball movement and creating space, either for himself or for his teammates (see Rooney's goal against Stoke for a prime example). There's a time and place for that but unfortunately, it's not tonight.
Missed opportunity not starting Sigurdsson, especially since his best performance for us came in the second half against Limassol where he played more of a central box-to-box role. Tough choice between Rooney/Sigurdsson to replace Klaassen in the second half.
Rooney isn't even on the bench.
Post by: Mayor Farnum on October 20, 2017, 03:03:58 AM
We do know that Schneiderlin can be very good and he hasn't been bad tonight actually.
Klaassen I am worried, maybe Koeman is right and it might take him a year to get up to speed. Really wanted it to work but he strikes me as the kind of AM that fits like a cog into a team playing well but isn't able to affect a team playing poorly.
Sold to Celtic in 6 months for a couple of mill; where he'll become a legend. Watch out Ross County!
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 03:04:11 AM
Post by: Realist on October 20, 2017, 03:05:04 AM
Post by: velimski on October 20, 2017, 03:05:28 AM
Surely Sagna would be a better right back that Martina, isn't he still free?
My grandmother would be a better option than Martina, and she's been dead for 15 years.
Post by: Waltzer on October 20, 2017, 03:05:31 AM
Exactly. I think Koeman has insisted on a lot of the first team players and they arent good enougheither way you put it the result is the same, Walsh hasn't done his job
Post by: everton1952 on October 20, 2017, 03:05:45 AM
Post by: ally2 on October 20, 2017, 03:05:52 AM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 03:06:05 AM
Neither shit nor worldbeaters. Both very good young players.
Are they? Neither look ready for top flight football. Theres plenty younger who are. Ive no real clue how you judge potential but in terms of performances now they arent good even for youngsters. Im not overly convinced DCL will even be a premier league player long term
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 03:06:23 AM
https://twitter.com/EvertonNewsFeed/status/921086440880173061
Post by: Mayor Farnum on October 20, 2017, 03:06:42 AM
I just don't think this squad is as good as we think it is. Struggling to see what changes he could make to make much difference here. Hate to say it.
You mean as good as we were being told it is. It's obvious the squad has been short from day one.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:06:54 AM
Post by: Cozzie on October 20, 2017, 03:07:24 AM
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 03:07:27 AM
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 03:07:29 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:07:36 AM
Really hope it works out.
Maybe Lookman and Vlasic wide, and Mirallas up front Calvert-Lewin.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 03:07:55 AM
I just don't think this squad is as good as we think it is. Struggling to see what changes he could make to make much difference here. Hate to say it.
It isnt. So much shite. Weve no left back, 1 right back whos been out for a year, 1 centre half, poor wingers no striker. We are a bit shite. Most are in complete denial
Post by: Bluedylan on October 20, 2017, 03:08:04 AM
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 03:08:16 AM
Good to see Lookman have a chance. Boy, Klaassen's confidence must be in the absolute shitter.
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:08:21 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:08:48 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:08:49 AM
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 20, 2017, 03:09:09 AM
We do know that Schneiderlin can be very good and he hasn't been bad tonight actually.
Klaassen I am worried, maybe Koeman is right and it might take him a year to get up to speed. Really wanted it to work but he strikes me as the kind of AM that fits like a cog into a team playing well but isn't able to affect a team playing poorly.
I was thinking this. Would look great for City.
Post by: Tinga on October 20, 2017, 03:09:20 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:09:54 AM
Post by: Tinga on October 20, 2017, 03:10:21 AM
:Lookman:
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 03:11:40 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:11:41 AM
Koeman enacts his recent fantasy.
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:12:26 AM
what subs was done?
Lookman for Klaassen
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 03:12:43 AM
Ah, Vlasic in the 10 role, now.
Koeman enacts his recent fantasy.
Im counting him as another 10 now then!! Only a matter of time til we can field an 11 of them
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 03:13:37 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:13:43 AM
Post by: Tinga on October 20, 2017, 03:13:49 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:13:59 AM
Im counting him as another 10 now then!! Only a matter of time til we can field an 11 of them
I'm coming round to this opinion!
He loves a congested centre, does Koeman.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:14:20 AM
Post by: kramer0 on October 20, 2017, 03:14:52 AM
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 20, 2017, 03:15:01 AM
I just don't think this squad is as good as we think it is. Struggling to see what changes he could make to make much difference here. Hate to say it.Been saying this for a while - regardless of Koeman’s selections - every game we start with 4/5 players who aren’t good enough/ not ready.
Post by: chang on October 20, 2017, 03:15:14 AM
Post by: Martip on October 20, 2017, 03:15:22 AM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 03:15:39 AM
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 03:15:41 AM
Post by: Tinga on October 20, 2017, 03:15:41 AM
Post by: DannyR on October 20, 2017, 03:16:27 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:16:29 AM
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 20, 2017, 03:16:55 AM
Ah, Vlasic in the 10 role, now.It’s actually his best position...same with Lookman...
Koeman enacts his recent fantasy.
Post by: Cozzie on October 20, 2017, 03:17:23 AM
I am certain every single one of them has fallen on their arse at one point or another tonight.
Post by: Martip on October 20, 2017, 03:17:27 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:17:38 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:17:42 AM
Been saying this for a while - regardless of Koeman’s selections - every game we start with 4/5 players who aren’t good enough/ not ready.
I dunno, Granty mate.
I reckon a month under Pochettino would see Keane, Lookman, Vlasic, Holgate, and Calvert-Lewin all look pretty good.
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 03:18:00 AM
Post by: D3blue on October 20, 2017, 03:18:24 AM
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 03:18:32 AM
Post by: Martip on October 20, 2017, 03:18:45 AM
Post by: kramer0 on October 20, 2017, 03:19:14 AM
Our positioning during build-ups is dreadful.
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:19:22 AM
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 03:19:26 AM
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 20, 2017, 03:19:43 AM
I dunno, Granty mate.Yeah, surrounded by 9 or 10 solid pros, in a settled, mature team.
I reckon a month under Pochettino would see Keane, Lookman, Vlasic, Holgate, and Calvert-Lewin all look pretty good.
Post by: Bluedylan on October 20, 2017, 03:19:53 AM
We know a number of them are good players and we know our young players are highly promising. So when it's all of them looking like they're never seen a football before, it can only be one reason.
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 03:20:20 AM
Post by: Cozzie on October 20, 2017, 03:20:21 AM
Post by: Heisenberg on October 20, 2017, 03:20:26 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:20:40 AM
Post by: Ross on October 20, 2017, 03:21:15 AM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 03:21:29 AM
Lads, you're going through every individual player going 'he's shit' or 'what's up with him?'
We know a number of them are good players and we know our young players are highly promising. So when it's all of them looking like they're never seen a football before, it can only be one reason.
Davies I think is a genuine prospect, Holgate maybe. I just dont see it with DCL. Hope Im wrong but so far its all battling and effort and nowt else
Post by: kramer0 on October 20, 2017, 03:21:34 AM
I'd bring on [anybody on the bench] for Martina.
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:21:43 AM
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 20, 2017, 03:21:47 AM
Post by: velimski on October 20, 2017, 03:22:09 AM
Koeman has gone full on Kevin Keegan.
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 03:22:11 AM
Post by: Martip on October 20, 2017, 03:22:43 AM
Davies I think is a genuine prospect, Holgate maybe. I just dont see it with DCL. Hope Im wrong but so far its all battling and effort and nowt elseDavies decent holgate and dcl shit
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 03:23:03 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:23:11 AM
Down to one sub, then.
I'd bring on [anybody on the bench] for Martina.
Baines, Gana, or Sandro, depending on degree of desperation
Post by: kramer0 on October 20, 2017, 03:23:38 AM
Baines, Gana, or Sandro, depending on degree of desperation
I'd even have Stekelenburg.
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:23:42 AM
Lads, you're going through every individual player going 'he's shit' or 'what's up with him?'
We know a number of them are good players and we know our young players are highly promising. So when it's all of them looking like they're never seen a football before, it can only be one reason.
Exactly.
It's no coincidence that the only one that looks half decent and is playing with a modicum of confidence is the player who has been here for the shortest amount of time.
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 03:24:25 AM
Baines, Gana, or Sandro, depending on degree of desperation
He'll probably bring Baines on late to win the game ...
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:24:31 AM
I'd even have Stekelenburg.
I'm enjoying your Hunter S. Thompson phase!
Post by: ally2 on October 20, 2017, 03:24:48 AM
Post by: april on October 20, 2017, 03:25:00 AM
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 03:26:26 AM
Limassol equalised away at Atalanta. We are adrift.Adrift, sunk more like :titanic:
Post by: ally2 on October 20, 2017, 03:26:48 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:26:50 AM
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 20, 2017, 03:27:04 AM
Schneiderlin done.
Two years ago.
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:27:13 AM
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 03:27:15 AM
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 03:27:16 AM
Post by: Cozzie on October 20, 2017, 03:27:17 AM
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 03:27:21 AM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 03:27:25 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:28:05 AM
Post by: Cozzie on October 20, 2017, 03:28:05 AM
Horrendous buy.
Post by: Ell Capitan on October 20, 2017, 03:28:06 AM
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 03:28:09 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:28:10 AM
Post by: Tinga on October 20, 2017, 03:28:30 AM
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 03:28:35 AM
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 20, 2017, 03:28:40 AM
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 20, 2017, 03:28:41 AM
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 03:28:51 AM
That was ridiculous from Williams though.
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 03:28:55 AM
Williams the captain leading by example there.
Horrendous buy.
Fucking disgraceful that. Pub football.
Post by: Bluedylan on October 20, 2017, 03:29:06 AM
Post by: Mayor Farnum on October 20, 2017, 03:29:08 AM
Post by: Confucius on October 20, 2017, 03:29:12 AM
Post by: DannyR on October 20, 2017, 03:29:13 AM
Post by: Robioto on October 20, 2017, 03:29:16 AM
Should have gone.
Post by: Major Clanger on October 20, 2017, 03:29:22 AM
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 03:29:22 AM
Post by: velimski on October 20, 2017, 03:29:23 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:29:28 AM
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 20, 2017, 03:29:31 AM
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 20, 2017, 03:29:41 AM
What a joke
Post by: Gash on October 20, 2017, 03:29:49 AM
Fired the crowd up though.
Post by: Tinga on October 20, 2017, 03:29:52 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:29:55 AM
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 03:30:03 AM
Post by: TheTone on October 20, 2017, 03:30:24 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:30:31 AM
Haven't heard the last of that one with the fans getting involved.
Fired the crowd up though.
You're right on both counts.
Post by: Cozzie on October 20, 2017, 03:30:41 AM
COME ON EVERTON!
Post by: Tinga on October 20, 2017, 03:30:43 AM
Post by: velimski on October 20, 2017, 03:30:57 AM
That's old school tactics, trying to fire fans and players up.
By behaving like a cunt?
Post by: Tinga on October 20, 2017, 03:31:04 AM
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 03:31:04 AM
Post by: Cozzie on October 20, 2017, 03:31:07 AM
It's fucking Sandro! He is world class.
Come on Rammy lad!
Post by: Realist on October 20, 2017, 03:31:11 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:31:13 AM
Post by: Brownie20 on October 20, 2017, 03:31:16 AM
Post by: Major Clanger on October 20, 2017, 03:31:20 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:31:22 AM
Post by: Goaljira on October 20, 2017, 03:31:25 AM
We get no luck FFS.
Post by: Bluedylan on October 20, 2017, 03:31:30 AM
Post by: Heisenberg on October 20, 2017, 03:31:39 AM
Post by: Ari on October 20, 2017, 03:31:41 AM
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 03:31:46 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:31:48 AM
By behaving like a cunt?
Yes
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 03:31:50 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:31:54 AM
He's done a Koeman!
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:31:59 AM
Post by: TheTone on October 20, 2017, 03:32:04 AM
Post by: blob on October 20, 2017, 03:32:05 AM
Post by: Ari on October 20, 2017, 03:32:09 AM
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 03:32:11 AM
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 03:32:16 AM
Post by: toffee_scot on October 20, 2017, 03:32:17 AM
Post by: Gash on October 20, 2017, 03:32:19 AM
Post by: GoodisonPk on October 20, 2017, 03:32:19 AM
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 03:32:21 AM
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 03:32:22 AM
Post by: kramer0 on October 20, 2017, 03:32:24 AM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 03:32:27 AM
Post by: Cozzie on October 20, 2017, 03:32:33 AM
Win it now, come on let the Gwladys suck the goals in.
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 03:32:35 AM
The fans didnt punch at all!
looked like it at first but fans did put there hands in the lyon players face and push them
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 03:32:36 AM
Post by: Goaljira on October 20, 2017, 03:32:44 AM
How did all 8 officials not see Williams then? He should have been off.
We get no luck FFS.
Played for, and got. 38 seconds!
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 03:32:47 AM
Post by: Major Clanger on October 20, 2017, 03:32:57 AM
Post by: velimski on October 20, 2017, 03:33:04 AM
Yes
All is forgiven ;)
Post by: Cassius on October 20, 2017, 03:33:07 AM
Post by: april on October 20, 2017, 03:33:08 AM
Post by: chang on October 20, 2017, 03:33:11 AM
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 03:33:14 AM
get in
no dont get in, i want koeman out
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 20, 2017, 03:33:14 AM
Post by: Realist on October 20, 2017, 03:33:18 AM
What a delivery
Post by: Robioto on October 20, 2017, 03:33:34 AM
Can't beat an angry Goodison!
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 20, 2017, 03:33:46 AM
Shouldn't have been on the pitch then scores, needed something
Great ball from Sig
Post by: kramer0 on October 20, 2017, 03:33:48 AM
Post by: DannyR on October 20, 2017, 03:34:01 AM
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 20, 2017, 03:34:13 AM
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 03:34:16 AM
Post by: Brownie20 on October 20, 2017, 03:34:20 AM
Brownie will probably try to defend or justify that behaviour from Williams at some point.
I'd justify it if it was anyone tbh. I don't see any problem with that. Fucking rough your opponent up anyway you can. I've spent the best part of twenty years doing it.
Post by: TheTone on October 20, 2017, 03:34:25 AM
Post by: Martip on October 20, 2017, 03:34:37 AM
Sigurdsson doing the free kick business.Finally
Post by: Major Clanger on October 20, 2017, 03:35:02 AM
This will be the new Neville's tackle, mark my words.
Called it.
Post by: duncandisorderly on October 20, 2017, 03:35:05 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:35:07 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:35:12 AM
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 03:35:34 AM
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 03:35:37 AM
Post by: toffee_scot on October 20, 2017, 03:35:51 AM
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 03:36:00 AM
Post by: Cozzie on October 20, 2017, 03:36:09 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:36:11 AM
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 03:36:29 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:36:35 AM
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 20, 2017, 03:36:42 AM
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 03:37:10 AM
Sigurdsson taking this fucker over, too. He has SPACE TO OPERATE.
No DM's it's the future.
Post by: Bigstickytoffee on October 20, 2017, 03:37:31 AM
Ramirez to get the winner from nowhere.
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 20, 2017, 03:37:35 AM
I'd justify it if it was anyone tbh. I don't see any problem with that. Fucking rough your opponent up anyway you can. I've spent the best part of twenty years doing it.
So did Shearer and he wasn't half bad
To be fair though he really should have gone for that push in the modern game,
I don't necessarily agree with the rules but that's the way it is
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 20, 2017, 03:37:43 AM
Sigurdsson taking this fucker over, too. He has SPACE TO OPERATE.All change when Wayne gets back
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 20, 2017, 03:37:58 AM
Post by: blob on October 20, 2017, 03:38:04 AM
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 03:38:07 AM
Post by: DannyR on October 20, 2017, 03:38:11 AM
Post by: TheTone on October 20, 2017, 03:38:21 AM
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 03:38:23 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:38:35 AM
Post by: Cozzie on October 20, 2017, 03:38:36 AM
Good finish though.
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 03:38:38 AM
Post by: toffee_scot on October 20, 2017, 03:38:39 AM
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 03:38:41 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:38:42 AM
He'll blame it on being too open and positive, and this will be the last we will see of Lookman and Vlasic on together.
Post by: Brownie20 on October 20, 2017, 03:38:44 AM
So did Shearer and he wasn't half bad
To be fair though he really should have gone for that push in the modern game,
I don't necessarily agree with the rules but that's the way it is
True but fuck it, he didn't.
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 20, 2017, 03:38:46 AM
Post by: Realist on October 20, 2017, 03:38:51 AM
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 03:38:53 AM
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 20, 2017, 03:38:56 AM
Post by: Martip on October 20, 2017, 03:39:03 AM
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 03:39:06 AM
Post by: Gash on October 20, 2017, 03:39:07 AM
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 03:39:07 AM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 03:39:19 AM
Post by: Robioto on October 20, 2017, 03:39:48 AM
Great finish
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 03:40:00 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:40:02 AM
True but fuck it, he didn't.
I admit to cackling like mad when the ref showed the yellow, even though I know that's wrong/evil of me.
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:40:24 AM
Post by: Major Clanger on October 20, 2017, 03:40:39 AM
Fooking cuco s fault again. He is so bad
Can't really fault him, this is the best he can do.
Post by: Confucius on October 20, 2017, 03:41:00 AM
We're going to have to malky their keeper again.
HAHAHA. brilliant
Post by: GoodisonPk on October 20, 2017, 03:41:03 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:41:06 AM
Bye Bye Koeman
Not a chance in hell
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:41:14 AM
We're going to have to malky their keeper again.
Better let Cuco do it this time, nobody will notice if he gets sent off and/or suspended.
Post by: Realist on October 20, 2017, 03:41:53 AM
Not bothered. As long as it means he's gone I'm ok with this.
He's going nowhere
Post by: Heisenberg on October 20, 2017, 03:42:17 AM
Post by: Ross on October 20, 2017, 03:42:45 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:42:46 AM
Post by: Cozzie on October 20, 2017, 03:42:49 AM
Fine margins.
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 20, 2017, 03:42:50 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:43:15 AM
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 20, 2017, 03:43:17 AM
Holgate conceded a pen, probably scores a 4 or a 5, still better than Cuco and Keane today. Have a fucking word.
He has been shite.
Post by: Major Clanger on October 20, 2017, 03:43:20 AM
Not bothered. As long as it means he's gone I'm ok with this.
That's far from guaranteed. But we're practically out of Europe.
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:43:24 AM
Post by: kramer0 on October 20, 2017, 03:43:36 AM
It's on Koeman/Walsh for (1) signing him to a THREE FUCKING YEAR OH MY GOD WHY contract, and (2) playing him despite the fact that he's a dumpster fire of a player.
Post by: Cozzie on October 20, 2017, 03:43:46 AM
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 20, 2017, 03:43:59 AM
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 03:44:19 AM
Least now we can just concentrate on winning the premier league
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:44:27 AM
He has been shite.
Agreed. Thus, the 4-5 grade. Cuco probably a 2, Keane a 3.
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 03:44:44 AM
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 20, 2017, 03:45:05 AM
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 03:45:07 AM
I agree with the can't-blame-Martina take. This is the best he can do. He clearly shouldn't be playing in the Premier League.
It's Koeman's fault for (1) signing him to a THREE FUCKING YEAR OH MY GOD WHY contract, and (2) playing him despite the fact that he's a dumpster fire of a player.
Did not realise it was a three year deal, thanks for making the evening that much worse.
What the fuck were they all thinking.
Post by: D_murph0278 on October 20, 2017, 03:45:26 AM
Could well be another Maribor with this defence.
Its all but a matter of time.
Better sooner rather than later.
Post by: Coyb12 on October 20, 2017, 03:45:43 AM
Not warming to Keane at all, just looks really slow.That because he is,and I will tell something else Calvin lewin is fucking shite.
Post by: Martip on October 20, 2017, 03:45:50 AM
Not warming to Keane at all, just looks really slow.So disappointed in him
Post by: Realist on October 20, 2017, 03:46:10 AM
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 03:46:19 AM
Posted at 73 mins
Everton 1-1 Lyon
Maybe this game could be a turning point for Everton. They are playing with real blood and thunder now. Belief, even. Twenty minutes to grab a winner.
75 mins
And just like that the mood is punctured inside Goodison!
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:47:48 AM
when my gf asked if i wanted to go to her sisters in lyon to watch the match so fucking happy i said id give it a miss
It would've been better than going to Goodison Park.
At least you'd be at an empty stadium in France right now.
Would probably be quite peaceful.
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 03:48:13 AM
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 03:48:26 AM
Post by: Bluedylan on October 20, 2017, 03:48:53 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:49:05 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:49:45 AM
Post by: Cozzie on October 20, 2017, 03:50:19 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:50:37 AM
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 03:50:44 AM
"You shitter, you shithouse, you're shite!" 😂
He nailed it
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 03:50:50 AM
Not warming to Keane at all, just looks really slow.
Likes to stand watching and has the dangerous belief he's much better on the ball than he actually is
Post by: Confucius on October 20, 2017, 03:50:55 AM
Post by: Major Clanger on October 20, 2017, 03:51:04 AM
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 20, 2017, 03:51:10 AM
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 20, 2017, 03:51:13 AM
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 03:51:21 AM
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 20, 2017, 03:51:37 AM
"You shitter, you shithouse, you're shite!"Was that at Gylfi it the ref?
Post by: Bluedylan on October 20, 2017, 03:51:46 AM
That because he is,and I will tell something else Calvin lewin is fucking shite.
He's not at all. That post is utterly clueless on your part.
Post by: D_murph0278 on October 20, 2017, 03:52:18 AM
Not running for us at all.
The players don't deserve this score tonight, but the bigger picture is key here.
I wont lose any sleep in hoping it stays 1-2.
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 03:52:27 AM
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 20, 2017, 03:52:32 AM
Good job we've got Pickford.
Good save from Ferri cross the Mersey.
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 20, 2017, 03:52:34 AM
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 03:52:55 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:53:08 AM
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 03:53:14 AM
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Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:53:23 AM
Fuck off!
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:53:34 AM
Post by: Cozzie on October 20, 2017, 03:54:05 AM
Just utterly, utterly pissing myself laughing, what in the absolute fuck was that.
Post by: duncandisorderly on October 20, 2017, 03:54:07 AM
is it wrong of me to hope Koeman dies in his sleep tonight?Yes
Post by: toffee_scot on October 20, 2017, 03:54:15 AM
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 03:54:35 AM
Post by: Smingers on October 20, 2017, 03:55:12 AM
Post by: Coyb12 on October 20, 2017, 03:55:25 AM
He's not at all. That post is utterly clueless on your part.He is fucking woeful,can't control a ball played up to him gets bullied most games doesn't look as though he could score in a brothel,utter shite,one good game against city and he's fucking Graeme shape fuck right off.
Post by: GoodisonPk on October 20, 2017, 03:55:37 AM
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 20, 2017, 03:55:40 AM
Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight !
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That feller with the kid in his arms throwing punches at their players is in deep shit too.
Post by: Zoolander on October 20, 2017, 03:55:43 AM
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 20, 2017, 03:55:45 AM
Post by: kramer0 on October 20, 2017, 03:55:59 AM
Post by: Martip on October 20, 2017, 03:56:04 AM
Koeman just looks like a man waiting to be sackedHe's got to go.
Post by: Lazarou on October 20, 2017, 03:56:25 AM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 03:56:33 AM
Keane copping a lot on here. Won't write him off. Think he'll be a 10 year player for us.
Is that a good thing or a bad 1 though
Post by: ally2 on October 20, 2017, 03:56:33 AM
Post by: Major Clanger on October 20, 2017, 03:56:49 AM
He is fucking woeful,can't control a ball played up to him gets bullied most games doesn't look as though he could score in a brothel,utter shite,one good game against city and he's fucking Graeme shape fuck right off.
I think your eyesight is gone, mate. Either that or you've blown a fuse.
Post by: Smingers on October 20, 2017, 03:56:56 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 03:57:04 AM
I would rather had Cankles Maguire for nearly half the price.
Post by: Bluedylan on October 20, 2017, 03:57:21 AM
Post by: Ridge on October 20, 2017, 03:57:36 AM
Post by: Lxxx on October 20, 2017, 03:58:00 AM
Couldn't really knock them for effort.
Post by: bluestevie on October 20, 2017, 03:58:23 AM
is it wrong of me to hope Koeman dies in his sleep tonight?
Yes it is, incredibly stupid post
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 03:58:23 AM
Defo would sack him if I was Moshiri
we need someone to turn up at a press confrence with a p45 for him
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 03:58:34 AM
Koeman looks like he's kicked him out and roughing it
There were those rumours...
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 20, 2017, 03:58:55 AM
He's gotta go now but who comes in?
I am not sure who can make that squad into a side
Post by: Ridge on October 20, 2017, 03:58:58 AM
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 03:59:08 AM
Post by: Major Clanger on October 20, 2017, 03:59:22 AM
Keane is getting royally analled tonight.
I would rather had Cankles Maguire for nearly half the price.
Keane will be okay in a better defensive line. Not brilliant, but okay. That could go a long way when you're a central defender (see Cahill).
Post by: ally2 on October 20, 2017, 03:59:39 AM
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 20, 2017, 04:00:02 AM
I think Koeman might know he's gone
Can't be arsed shaving either.
Post by: Everton Mint on October 20, 2017, 04:00:11 AM
And Arsenal next ... :(
Post by: Martip on October 20, 2017, 04:00:15 AM
And that's our European "journey" done.It's been a rocky ride
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 20, 2017, 04:00:18 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 04:00:34 AM
Keane will be okay in a better defensive line. Not brilliant, but okay. That could go a long way when you're a central defender (see Cahill).
Yes.
They would all look better in a coherant system and with progressive coaching and training.
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 04:00:41 AM
I think Koeman might know he's gone
he knew before the season started, he wants to get compo and play golf, he just wants to drag it out till we sack him
Post by: Heisenberg on October 20, 2017, 04:00:41 AM
Keane will be okay in a better defensive line. Not brilliant, but okay. That could go a long way when you're a central defender (see Cahill).
I keep thinking this "he will be better with someone good next to him". But he needs to be good in his own right really as opposed to a secondary gutless CB
Post by: pjk on October 20, 2017, 04:00:53 AM
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 20, 2017, 04:01:35 AM
he knew before the season started, he wants to get compo and play golf, he just wants to drag it out till we sack himYeah that's exactly what he wants
Post by: Silas on October 20, 2017, 04:01:39 AM
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 04:01:44 AM
Post by: Smingers on October 20, 2017, 04:01:46 AM
Pull your finger out Everton we, the fans, don't deserve this!
Post by: Martip on October 20, 2017, 04:01:51 AM
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 20, 2017, 04:02:16 AM
Post by: D3blue on October 20, 2017, 04:02:18 AM
Post by: Jamokachi on October 20, 2017, 04:02:24 AM
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 20, 2017, 04:02:27 AM
Keane copping a lot on here. Won't write him off. Think he'll be a 10 year player for us.The trouble is now we don't know who's shit and who's down to bad managment, what a mess for some poor cunt to sort out.
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 04:02:35 AM
Is it weird that I feel a bit sorry for Koeman, just walked passed us leaving the pitch, head down, looks like a broken man, he knows its out of his hands
fuck him, i hope he tops himself
Post by: Lxxx on October 20, 2017, 04:02:44 AM
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 20, 2017, 04:02:51 AM
Fuck me that was grimThis.
He's gotta go now but who comes in?
I am not sure who can make that squad into a side
You think Ancelotti would go near this lot? You can’t polish a turd.
Post by: Tinga on October 20, 2017, 04:02:51 AM
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 20, 2017, 04:02:57 AM
1 Atalanta 3 2 1 0 7 2 5 7
Won against Everton Drew with Lyon Won against Apollon Limassol
2 Lyon 3 1 2 0 4 3 1 5
Lost to Ajax Won against Ajax Drew with Apollon Limassol Drew with Atalanta Won against Everton
3 Apollon Limassol 3 0 2 1 4 6 -2 2
Drew with Lyon Drew with Everton Lost to Atalanta
4 Everton 3 0 1 2 3 7 -4 1
Lost to Atalanta Drew with Apollon Limassol Lost to Lyon
Utter poo.
Post by: gizzblue on October 20, 2017, 04:03:13 AM
Post by: brittcop1 on October 20, 2017, 04:03:23 AM
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 04:03:27 AM
fuck him, i hope he tops himself
No need for shit like that at all, fuck sake
Post by: Bluedylan on October 20, 2017, 04:03:44 AM
Koeman has nothing else he can do now. He went all out tonight and we still looked poor. We looked capable for about 15 minutes. Hats off to Williams tonight for giving his all.
He went all out with Cuco Martina at left back against the best team in the group in a must win game?
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 04:04:09 AM
Post by: Coyb12 on October 20, 2017, 04:04:20 AM
I think your eyesight is gone, mate. Either that or you've blown a fuse.Yours has if you think he is a prem player,watch if or when a new managers comes in see what happens to him.
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Post by: Major Clanger on October 20, 2017, 04:04:31 AM
I keep thinking this "he will be better with someone good next to him". But he needs to be good in his own right really as opposed to a secondary gutless CB
I just remember Lescott, who looked a lot better with Jags next to him, mopping up after his mistakes. If Phil Jones can be a Man Utd player, Keane will be fine for us too.
Post by: april on October 20, 2017, 04:04:34 AM
fuck him, i hope he tops himselfNot cool.
Post by: Heisenberg on October 20, 2017, 04:04:40 AM
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 20, 2017, 04:04:57 AM
I keep thinking this "he will be better with someone good next to him". But he needs to be good in his own right really as opposed to a secondary gutless CBHe can be the long-term stopper’ next to a better ball-playing CB. Problem is, he is our ball-playing CB.
Post by: Bluedylan on October 20, 2017, 04:05:23 AM
Post by: Mayor Farnum on October 20, 2017, 04:05:35 AM
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 04:06:05 AM
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 20, 2017, 04:06:09 AM
Cuco Martina summed it up for me near the end there. Stopped and didn't know what to do until somebody took it off him and tried something. Bye Koeman, you useful idiot.TBF he was expecting Sandro to run on the overlap but Sandro just sprinted towards the ball.
Post by: Escla on October 20, 2017, 04:06:18 AM
fuck him, i hope he tops himself
Clearly didn't mean to like that, that's the most stupid post of the night, it's a game of football ffs, as much as we are pissed off you never wish for someone to take their own life !
Post by: Smingers on October 20, 2017, 04:06:35 AM
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 20, 2017, 04:06:43 AM
We do lack a forward in fairness. I don't think DCL is ready.Or Holgate or Vlasic or Lookman...
Post by: Major Clanger on October 20, 2017, 04:06:52 AM
Fuck me that was grim
He's gotta go now but who comes in?
I am not sure who can make that squad into a side
A good manager can get it working with 2-3 signings in January. Then we'll need a proper (and fucking expensive) overhaul in the summer but at this point I'd be happy if we could save the rest of our season first.
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 20, 2017, 04:07:05 AM
Unsy in for the rest of the season, see how he does,
If not great plenty of time to look for a new manager
Results can't really get any worse and we will lose against Arsenal with him in charge, he's out of ideas
Post by: School of Science on October 20, 2017, 04:07:35 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 04:07:38 AM
Post by: everton1952 on October 20, 2017, 04:08:07 AM
Post by: TheTone on October 20, 2017, 04:08:15 AM
If anyone wants a laugh, rewind to just before 85 mins, and listen to the Everonian screaming "You little shithouse, you're shit, lad, you're shit, you're shite!" 😂
was that you lid?
Post by: Toddacelli on October 20, 2017, 04:08:16 AM
Got a load of ale in.
Only Everton have the power now to make it a happy, drunken, singing, loving Toddacelli that staggers up the stairs with a spring in his step, hope in his heart and a glint in his eye for the missus.
Or a weepy, miserable, snotty Toddacelli who just wants to curl up into ball and go to sleep.
Needless to say, the missus will probably be rooting for Lyon.
Well at least the missus is happy!
Fuck's sake Everton!
Post by: wepull on October 20, 2017, 04:08:44 AM
I think we would have made Allardyce proud of route A football. We just played long balls all along and our best chances came through free kicks.
We lost out it in the middle. Our players couldn't control simple balls there. Sig, Davies, DCL etc. just couldn't hold the ball in the middle of the park under decent pressure.
When we go down and the other team is just sticking to our players, we just don't have the players to take on the opposition and create a moment of magic nor do we have movement off the ball.
In short we are a team with zero imagination, creativity or movement and we are a boring boring side to watch.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 04:08:50 AM
fuck him, i hope he tops himself
You'd think you'd know better given we lost 1 of our own in Gary Speed
Post by: Mayor Farnum on October 20, 2017, 04:09:16 AM
fuck him, i hope he tops himself
You are a buffoon!
Post by: Tinga on October 20, 2017, 04:09:21 AM
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 20, 2017, 04:09:28 AM
I reckon Unsworth would have us organised and balanced pretty quickly. Plenty of good players there.I disagree. Nothing against Rhino as think any manager would struggle with this unbalanced squad. Yes, we have good players...but only on paper, not many that are proven. And guess what? All the other teams have good players, too.
Post by: Goaljira on October 20, 2017, 04:09:37 AM
Bare in mind, Martina is a right back playing left back! put baines right back or coleman left back and you have the same outcome. Your anger is wasted on him
Like Coleman against Benfica away. Martina is still badly shite at RB too though.
Post by: Major Clanger on October 20, 2017, 04:09:54 AM
Post by: Paddockoldie on October 20, 2017, 04:10:05 AM
Post by: Coyb12 on October 20, 2017, 04:10:27 AM
Had enough now, got to go i'm afraidI don't want to agree mate but I think it's could looking that way.
Unsy in for the rest of the season, see how he does,
If not great plenty of time to look for a new manager
Results can't really get any worse and we will lose against Arsenal with him in charge, he's out of ideas
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 04:10:51 AM
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 04:11:01 AM
was that you lid?
Haha, no, mate!
I'm pretty loud, but even my lungs can't reach Goodison from Brighton 😁
Post by: Goaljira on October 20, 2017, 04:11:19 AM
I disagree. Nothing against Rhino as think any manager would struggle with this unbalanced squad. Yes, we have good players...but only on paper, not many that are proven. And guess what? All the other teams have good players, too.
But at least he might have faith in playing Kenny and Garbutt as proper fullbacks, instead of Holgate and Martina who are neither.
Post by: toffee_scot on October 20, 2017, 04:11:49 AM
At least Koeman tried to be positive with the starting lineup and substitutions, however there is no justification for playing Martina, I can't believe how atrocious a player he is. Koeman won't be sacked because Moshiri will see this as an 'expected' defeat against a very good French club and because we did play largely better than against Brighton.
We can use the Europa League now to experiment a bit, especially giving fringe players a go and rest some of our other key players for other important games.
I'm concerned about Davy Klaassen though, he is struggling a fair bit, I think he might have to go out on loan to another club in January, simply to play more football and rebuild his confidence before returning to Everton for preseason, maybe in a league which is not quite as challenging as the Premier League but one that is better than the Dutch Eredivisie.
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 20, 2017, 04:12:01 AM
fuck him, i hope he tops himself
Youre a cunt.
Post by: john e on October 20, 2017, 04:12:07 AM
If anyone wants a laugh, rewind to just before 85 mins, and listen to the Everonian screaming "You little shithouse, you're shit, lad, you're shit, you're shite!" 😂
Yep, heard that lolol lolol :whistle:
Post by: bluestevie on October 20, 2017, 04:12:40 AM
fuck him, i hope he tops himself
Fuck off with that you utter utter cockwomble
Post by: Bluedylan on October 20, 2017, 04:12:53 AM
i will just make this clear to everyone, am not really arsed what you all think of me
Ok sound. Still though, that was objectively a moronic thing to say. Not opinion, objectively and definitively moronic.
Post by: Zoolander on October 20, 2017, 04:13:08 AM
fuck him, i hope he tops himselfToo far, seriously, that’s fucked up.
Personally I hope he steps barefoot on an upturned plug or some Lego
Post by: chang on October 20, 2017, 04:13:32 AM
Post by: Sixx1402 on October 20, 2017, 04:13:43 AM
I don't want to agree mate but I think it's could looking that way.
I hadn't decided until tonight but regardless of how we played it's a results business and our statistics look dire
Unfortunately i can't think of who we can get in hence the Unsy shout
He can't possibly do any worse
Post by: Lxxx on October 20, 2017, 04:14:23 AM
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 04:15:19 AM
Ok sound. Still though, that was objectively a moronic thing to say. Not opinion, objectively and definitively moronic.
i really dont care tho
feeling sorry for some prick getting paid £7 a season for that is far far worse
Post by: wepull on October 20, 2017, 04:15:45 AM
For the first time tonight I felt for Koeman. Not sure what else he could do with what he had available.Maybe have a plan on how to play football on the ground?
Post by: sixymack on October 20, 2017, 04:15:51 AM
Post by: john e on October 20, 2017, 04:16:18 AM
Fuck off with that you utter utter cockwomble
:o that's a cracker " Cockwomble" lolol lolol lolol
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 04:16:31 AM
i really dont care tho
feeling sorry for some prick getting paid £7 a season for that is far far worse
£7 a season, no wonder he can't afford a razor then
Post by: Ross on October 20, 2017, 04:16:49 AM
If anyone wants a laugh, rewind to just before 85 mins, and listen to the Everonian screaming "You little shithouse, you're shit, lad, you're shit, you're shite!" 😂
Was that aimed at Sigurdsson?
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 04:16:59 AM
£7 a season, no wonder he can't afford a razor then
£7m
Post by: Martip on October 20, 2017, 04:17:23 AM
i really dont care thoI know he's bad but £7 a season ?
feeling sorry for some prick getting paid £7 a season for that is far far worse
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 20, 2017, 04:17:26 AM
i really dont care tho
Dont you care that there are fellow fans on here who struggle with depression and stuff? I dont understand people who joke about or wish suicide on others.
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 04:17:29 AM
Was that aimed at Sigurdsson?
yes
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 04:17:34 AM
Post by: Buck76 on October 20, 2017, 04:17:54 AM
think he will resign.
Will he fuck and lose out on £££... the only reason he’s at the club!... he’s nowhere near enough class for that.. Sack him now, don’t give anymore to spend ffs & either Walsh has been brown beaten or he can fuck off too... it’s disgrace that we are so toothless, rhythmless steaming pile of shite of a team (even if we hadn’t spent a penny)...
Post by: Zoolander on October 20, 2017, 04:17:55 AM
Was that aimed at Sigurdsson?Thought that at the time
Seriously hope not
It’s becoming toxic if so
Post by: Silas on October 20, 2017, 04:18:31 AM
I like a lot of our young players but there's too much on them to turn this round. Davies is trying too hard for a start as is Holgate. How fucking massive is Coleman for us? Hell a poor Baines isa big miss.
Feel really sorry for the new signings especially attacking ones like Klaassen, Sandro and Sigurddsson, this is a horrendous time to be trying to establish yourself in a new team.
Post by: TheRam on October 20, 2017, 04:18:41 AM
Martina left back was suicide.
And putting Sandro infront of him just topped it off.
What the fuck are these players that we've signed by the way?
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 20, 2017, 04:18:53 AM
fuck him, i hope he tops himselfWhat a little bellend you are
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 04:18:56 AM
Was that aimed at Sigurdsson?
I think it might've been as he was taking the corner.
Welcome to Goodison, Gylfi lad 😬
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 04:18:59 AM
Was that aimed at Sigurdsson?
Definitely was
Post by: bluestevie on October 20, 2017, 04:19:28 AM
i really dont care tho
feeling sorry for some prick getting paid £7 a season for that is far far worse
No mate, wishing death on someone in any shape or form is infinitely worse, utter shithouse stuff.
Post by: pjk on October 20, 2017, 04:19:31 AM
Was that aimed at Sigurdsson?
I think it was. Sigurdsson had been knocking some good balls into the box just previous too.
Post by: chang on October 20, 2017, 04:19:56 AM
i will just make this clear to everyone, am not really arsed what you all think of me
No problem, but what you said was incredibly insensitive, and to then dismiss people with a shrug of the shoulders, is disappointing.
Just say sorry mate, we're all blues here right?
Post by: Mayor Farnum on October 20, 2017, 04:20:05 AM
i really dont care tho
feeling sorry for some prick getting paid £7 a season for that is far far worse
Less than minimum wage. Fuckin' Tories.
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 20, 2017, 04:20:20 AM
A good manager can get it working with 2-3 signings in January. Then we'll need a proper (and fucking expensive) overhaul in the summer but at this point I'd be happy if we could save the rest of our season first.Yeah I meant now tho
With that squad of players
Post by: hannu on October 20, 2017, 04:20:23 AM
Dont you care that there are fellow fans on here who struggle with depression and stuff? I dont understand people who joke about or wish suicide on others.
i suffer with depression myself
i dont get a shit on over suicide tho
aslong as its not one of my family or mates i dont care who lives or dies, apart from koeman i know exactly where i stand on him
Post by: Major Clanger on October 20, 2017, 04:20:23 AM
Post by: Coyb12 on October 20, 2017, 04:20:43 AM
I hadn't decided until tonight but regardless of how we played it's a results business and our statistics look direIf he goes I would rather get someone else other than unsworth, someone with a bit more experience,even till the end of the season.
Unfortunately i can't think of who we can get in hence the Unsy shout
He can't possibly do any worse
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 20, 2017, 04:21:02 AM
i suffer with depression myself
i dont get a shit on over suicide tho
aslong as its not one of my family or mates i dont care who lives or dies, apart from koeman i know exactly where i stand on him
wow. Unreal. Really really sad for you.
Post by: everton1952 on October 20, 2017, 04:21:25 AM
Post by: Ross on October 20, 2017, 04:21:26 AM
yes
That’s a bit rough. In fact the second time tonight one of our own disgraced themselves.
How the fuck that fella in the Gwladys missed the opportunity to twat Ashley Williams I will never understand..
Post by: TheRam on October 20, 2017, 04:21:36 AM
Ship him out on loan and let him make his mistakes somewhere else.
Post by: Major Clanger on October 20, 2017, 04:21:53 AM
i suffer with depression myself
i dont get a shit on over suicide tho
aslong as its not one of my family or mates i dont care who lives or dies, apart from koeman i know exactly where i stand on him
You need some perspective in your life, mate. And professional help, seriously.
Post by: Running Blue on October 20, 2017, 04:22:13 AM
Still shit but had a bit of a go. No luck either.
And Arsenal next ... :(
If I remember correctly, we were playing even worse last year. We played (and beat) Arsenal and that turned our season around.
Post by: Mayor Farnum on October 20, 2017, 04:22:16 AM
Dont you care that there are fellow fans on here who struggle with depression and stuff? I dont understand people who joke about or wish suicide on others.
Don't you see? It proves he's more of a fan than the rest of us.
Post by: Brownie20 on October 20, 2017, 04:23:06 AM
i will just make this clear to everyone, am not really arsed what you all think of me
Well that's ok then. But let me just tell you that two days ago was the two year anniversary of one of my teammate's suicide. He left behind two young boys and was only young himself. None of us knew the absolute terrible battle with depression he was going through. I sincerely hope that no one you ever care or you yourself about goes through such an ordeal. I'm not a sensitive snowflake type but in all my years on here that is the most misguided thing I think I've ever seen posted. The fact that you are being so blazé about it suggests either that you know you were wrong but don't want to admit it or that you are indeed an utter cunt.
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 20, 2017, 04:23:24 AM
Post by: ally2 on October 20, 2017, 04:23:32 AM
Post by: bluestevie on October 20, 2017, 04:23:53 AM
i suffer with depression myself
i dont get a shit on over suicide tho
aslong as its not one of my family or mates i dont care who lives or dies, apart from koeman i know exactly where i stand on him
Detestable little prick, shown your colours tonight
Post by: Sir Stealth on October 20, 2017, 04:24:20 AM
Lyon had much more quality and they strolled through large periods of the game I felt
We did show a bit of heart and passion which is nice to see but confidence is so low in this team
Dom didn't have a sniff against the 2 beasty centre backs of theirs. Another frustrating night for Davy Klaassen and Sandro when he came on
Encouraged by the improved set pieces of Sigurdsson, the overall quality of Vlasic and I thought in little bits that Lookman was good
Thought Michael Keane was poor, particularly in his distribution
Fair play to Ashley Williams for dragging us back into the game by working out that alehouse tactics to put them off their stride was our only way in. That got the crowd up when he started the brawl and then was a great header from him
Pity we didn't see it through. Hard to see where it is going to turn round for us. I think Koeman will be gone within the next few games. This season is essentially a write off already
Post by: duncandisorderly on October 20, 2017, 04:24:27 AM
i suffer with depression myselfYou have obviously never lost anyone close to you then, because you would realise death is fucking horrible. Wishing it on someone because they are a shit manager is abhorrent, and also fucking ridiculous.
i dont get a shit on over suicide tho
aslong as its not one of my family or mates i dont care who lives or dies, apart from koeman i know exactly where i stand on him
Post by: Toddacelli on October 20, 2017, 04:25:23 AM
I know. I know.
My own fault. Won't do it again.
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 04:25:42 AM
Post by: Heisenberg on October 20, 2017, 04:26:16 AM
Post by: Running Blue on October 20, 2017, 04:26:53 AM
Post by: Major Clanger on October 20, 2017, 04:27:33 AM
We've turned into Newcastle Utd.
You mean the club or us? It works for both really.
Post by: Major Clanger on October 20, 2017, 04:28:58 AM
Just been told its the worst ever start to a Europa league by an English team?
Yep, and lest we forget, that includes Hull.
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 04:29:22 AM
Post by: toffee_scot on October 20, 2017, 04:29:41 AM
fuck him, i hope he tops himself
Abysmal and disgusting comment. I know some close people including relatives who have tried (and thankfully did not end up dying) and I would never ever wish anyone and their loved ones to ever be in a situation like that. Whatever you think of Koeman as a manager of Everton, he is a human being who is a husband, a father, a brother and many other things to people close to him.
Post by: pjk on October 20, 2017, 04:29:55 AM
Post by: Lxxx on October 20, 2017, 04:30:01 AM
Maybe have a plan on how to play football on the ground?
It is wasn't his fault Keane, Williams and Pickford continually played long balls up to a kid who was getting bullied by two big men twice his size. At some point the players have to take some responsibility.
Post by: Toddacelli on October 20, 2017, 04:30:07 AM
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Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 04:31:22 AM
Post by: everton1952 on October 20, 2017, 04:32:21 AM
Post by: Mayor Farnum on October 20, 2017, 04:38:30 AM
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 20, 2017, 04:38:50 AM
Cant believe Koemans been blaming that we have played too many games.. that should have made the squad gel!
if it hasnt take a look at your self Koeman.
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 20, 2017, 04:39:06 AM
Looked a broken man in front of the press there. Probably knows he's going as he allowed himself to criticise Holgate for the penalty.Hiw could you not?
They should have been given two penalties
Post by: Ross on October 20, 2017, 04:41:27 AM
Looked a broken man in front of the press there. Probably knows he's going as he allowed himself to criticise Holgate for the penalty.
He always criticises players. I wouldn’t read to much into that.
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 20, 2017, 04:41:48 AM
But at least he might have faith in playing Kenny and Garbutt as proper fullbacks, instead of Holgate and Martina who are neither.Kenny is injured and Garbutt made a cunt of himself in the Championship.
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 20, 2017, 04:42:06 AM
Post by: ally2 on October 20, 2017, 04:43:26 AM
Post by: Goaljira on October 20, 2017, 04:43:56 AM
Press conference now, looking down, not looking at the camera at all
"In one single moment your whole life can turn around, I stand there for a minute staring straight into the ground.
Looking to the left slightly then looking back down the world feels like its caved in proper sorry frown.
Please let me show you how we could only just be for us, I can change and I can grow or we can adjust...."
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 20, 2017, 04:45:16 AM
Davies should be learning the game, and developing his football brain. Instead he's teaching himself that the only way is to run around a lot. Perhaps it is best to withdraw him a bit. Still thought he was quite good though.He’ll be class but he’s another one that’s not ready. And certainly not in a team with loads of other kids.
Post by: everton1952 on October 20, 2017, 04:45:28 AM
Post by: Rhys on October 20, 2017, 04:46:36 AM
Garbutt is not registered as an Everton player and cannot play in Europe before January, similar to Niasse. Not that it matters, about Europe I mean.
Garbutt wasn't in Europa or premier league squad so shows what he thinks of him.
Post by: Major Clanger on October 20, 2017, 04:48:29 AM
It is wasn't his fault Keane, Williams and Pickford continually played long balls up to a kid who was getting bullied by two big men twice his size. At some point the players have to take some responsibility.
Was it not?
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 04:48:52 AM
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 20, 2017, 04:49:07 AM
Kenny is injured and Garbutt made a cunt of himself in the Championship.
Garbutt has been really good in the last few under 23 games.. shockingly good.
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on October 20, 2017, 04:53:36 AM
Garbutt has been really good in the last few under 23 games.. shockingly good.Mate, U23s isn’t even conference level. Most team’s best u23 players are out on loan.
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 04:54:10 AM
BT and this Gallic journalist doing their damnedest to get Everton banned by not showing any of the Lyon players' involvement in the 'brawl', and actually saying that the ref should put the Everton crowds involvement in his report.
I hope the ref does and i hope the club ban the prick in the crowd who was throwing punches while carrying a kid
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 20, 2017, 04:57:19 AM
Garbutt has been really good in the last few under 23 games.. shockingly good.At 25 I'd be disappointed if he wasn't good against a lot of kids
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 05:00:21 AM
BT and this Gallic journalist doing their damnedest to get Everton banned by not showing any of the Lyon players' involvement in the 'brawl', and actually saying that the ref should put the Everton crowds involvement in his report.
Banned from what? We are out and won't be qualifying.
Post by: Simon Paul on October 20, 2017, 05:00:37 AM
20 minutes of decent fighting spirit knocked out of us by the second goal, which I haven't seen yet
Post by: bluestevie on October 20, 2017, 05:02:44 AM
just back
20 minutes of decent fighting spirit knocked out of us by the second goal, which I haven't seen yet
Pretty much Martina got skinned, ball got pulled back and the lad backheeled it off the inside of Keane's calf wrong footing Pickford
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 20, 2017, 05:03:38 AM
Pretty much Martina got skinned, ball got pulled back and the lad backheeled it off the inside of Keane's calf wrong footing PickfordIt was Williams
Martina twatted it down the line, it hit Sandro trying to trap it, went passed Martina and the lad skinned Williams
Post by: Running Blue on October 20, 2017, 05:04:34 AM
Banned from what? We are out and won't be qualifying.
We are one win against Lyon from being right back in this. I am not saying we will win, but saying we're "out" already is being unnecessarily dramatic.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 20, 2017, 05:05:34 AM
but Martinas pace surprised me, couple of times he was mega fast at tracking back
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 05:06:27 AM
We are one win against Lyon from being right back in this. I am not saying we will win, but saying we're "out" already is being unnecessarily dramatic.
It's the hope that kills us. Don't worry you'll have it beaten out of your eventually
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 20, 2017, 05:08:08 AM
Post by: Running Blue on October 20, 2017, 05:08:30 AM
It's the hope that kills us. Don't worry you'll have it beaten out of your eventually
I've lived through worse than this. And, if you haven't, then you are either very young, or very blessed. Be grateful for either, and keep things in perspective.
Post by: everton1952 on October 20, 2017, 05:08:42 AM
Post by: Gash on October 20, 2017, 05:09:00 AM
BT and this Gallic journalist doing their damnedest to get Everton banned by not showing any of the Lyon players' involvement in the 'brawl', and actually saying that the ref should put the Everton crowds involvement in his report.
To be fair, the lad carrying his son while running to the front, shouting his nut off and shoving the Lyon keeper's head should ashamed of himself.
Post by: Mayor Farnum on October 20, 2017, 05:09:59 AM
To be fair, the lad carrying his son while running to the front, shouting his nut off and shoving the Lyon keeper's head should ashamed of himself.
Those types don't shame easily.
Post by: Major Clanger on October 20, 2017, 05:12:10 AM
To be fair, the lad carrying his son while running to the front, shouting his nut off and shoving the Lyon keeper's head should ashamed of himself.
I just hope his missus sees it by the time he gets home and puts his nuts in a vice.
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 05:12:26 AM
To be fair, the lad carrying his son while running to the front, shouting his nut off and shoving the Lyon keeper's head should ashamed of himself.
He won't be, he'll be in the boozer doing a few lines now buzzing off himself
Post by: Lxxx on October 20, 2017, 05:14:04 AM
It was Williams
Martina twatted it down the line, it hit Sandro trying to trap it, went passed Martina and the lad skinned Williams
But it's not cool to not slag Martina, even though it was blatantly not his fault.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 20, 2017, 05:18:04 AM
I've lived through worse than this. And, if you haven't, then you are either very young, or very blessed. Be grateful for either, and keep things in perspective.
I'm 38. We are being outplayed week in and week out right now. I've lived through shit with no expectations. This is shit with expectations.
Post by: Running Blue on October 20, 2017, 05:19:01 AM
I'm 38. We are being outplayed week in and week out right now. I've lived through shit with no expectations. This is shit with expectations.
See, I knew what I was talking about. I'm 39. When you get to my age, you'll understand :)
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 05:22:31 AM
See, I knew what I was talking about. I'm 39. When you get to my age, you'll understand :)
Im 40, you know nothing
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 05:22:40 AM
I hope the ref does and i hope the club ban the prick in the crowd who was throwing punches while carrying a kid
Oh, was he?
Bellend.
Everton will probably get banned from football for life and jailed, or something.
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 05:23:26 AM
Im 40, you know nothing
I'm 41, and you're all cunts.
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 05:23:35 AM
Oh, was he?
Bellend.
Everton will probably get banned from football for life and jailed, or something.
I hope so
Post by: Lxxx on October 20, 2017, 05:27:20 AM
Im 40, you know nothing
Ditto.
Post by: Goaljira on October 20, 2017, 05:27:25 AM
Im 40, you know nothing
I'm 36. I'm as clueless as Koeman.
Post by: Gash on October 20, 2017, 05:27:53 AM
He won't be, he'll be in the boozer doing a few lines now buzzing off himself
He'll be well chuffed, he's even got a mention on the BBC.
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Williams had barged into Lyon goalkeeper Anthony Lopes moments before his equaliser, sparking a melee behind the byeline in which an Everton fan - carrying a small child - appeared to push a Lyon player.
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 05:30:35 AM
https://twitter.com/MHChehade/status/921113652853460992
Post by: Redartin on October 20, 2017, 05:32:09 AM
Everton will probably get banned from football for life.
They have to start playing football to be banned from it.
Post by: Lxxx on October 20, 2017, 05:33:06 AM
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 20, 2017, 05:33:38 AM
And the winner of father of the year goes to...What a bellend
https://twitter.com/MHChehade/status/921113652853460992
Post by: sam of the south on October 20, 2017, 05:33:49 AM
They have to start playing football to be banned from it.
Fair point
Post by: Redartin on October 20, 2017, 05:35:35 AM
I hope the ref does and i hope the club ban the prick in the crowd who was throwing punches while carrying a kid
He's probably hannu.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 20, 2017, 05:45:35 AM
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 06:10:13 AM
Post by: SANA_DR0 on October 20, 2017, 06:16:01 AM
Some positives in the interview I feel, especially in the changing of style...
Post by: Tinga on October 20, 2017, 07:07:17 AM
"In one single moment your whole life can turn around, I stand there for a minute staring straight into the ground.
Looking to the left slightly then looking back down the world feels like its caved in proper sorry frown.
Please let me show you how we could only just be for us, I can change and I can grow or we can adjust...."
I can only imagine Koeman quoting Kipling now.
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 20, 2017, 09:07:02 AM
I can only imagine Koeman quoting Kipling now.He makes good cakes at least?
Post by: BlueBeagle on October 20, 2017, 12:41:46 PM
I can only imagine Koeman quoting Kipling now.
Everton will be playing 4, 4, fuckin 2.
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 02:34:22 PM
https://twitter.com/SportingLife/status/921276702239657984
Post by: Realist on October 20, 2017, 02:37:04 PM
fuck him, i hope he tops himself
You're an absolute knobhead
Post by: Redartin on October 20, 2017, 02:59:49 PM
Why on earth would you carry your kid into a melee?How else is Knobhead Junior going to learn to be a tool?
Post by: Lxxx on October 20, 2017, 03:14:41 PM
Whoever did the scouting on Lyon should be shot. Their two centre halves are both man mountains so to put a young lanky lad up against them on his own and then play long balls up to him was just suicidal.
Everything is wrong at the club at the minute. The manager is trying everything from week to week and nothing is working. Signs of desperation and it's not good.
Post by: BlueForYou on October 20, 2017, 03:18:34 PM
Post by: van der Meyde on October 20, 2017, 03:42:29 PM
Baines struggled to pass a fitness test against Brighton and only played on with painkillers. Possibly best to give him a rest given his age and importance.
Post by: Lxxx on October 20, 2017, 03:58:22 PM
Inclined to give Koeman the benefit of the doubt on Baines.
Baines struggled to pass a fitness test against Brighton and only played on with painkillers. Possibly best to give him a rest given his age and importance.
Didn't know he had fitness issues. I suppose this is what happens when you have a squad of 25 players and only one of them has a left foot. That fact alone means someone deserves to be hauled over the coals.
Post by: BlueForYou on October 20, 2017, 04:05:04 PM
Post by: brap2 on October 20, 2017, 04:16:46 PM
Neither shit nor worldbeaters. Both very good young players.
This is a real problem with our fans.
If a young player looks good he's the next big thing, then when he ultimately hits a wall or doesn't run every game - he's shit.
Post by: Lxxx on October 20, 2017, 04:20:24 PM
We have a really talented young group that are being asked to mix it every week at the top level and it's not working either for them or for us.
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 04:33:33 PM
Post by: pjk on October 20, 2017, 04:33:50 PM
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/10/20/club-statement-everton-v-olympique-lyonnaise
Post by: Lxxx on October 20, 2017, 04:34:39 PM
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/10/20/club-statement-everton-v-olympique-lyonnaise
Deserves whatever the club throw at him. Idiot of the highest order and an embarrassment to the club.
Post by: KevtheRat on October 20, 2017, 04:41:43 PM
Deserves whatever the club throw at him. Idiot of the highest order and an embarrassment to the club.
You've got to feel for the poor innocent kid too. Face plastered all over the national press because his dad is a bellend.
Post by: BlueNoseMike on October 20, 2017, 04:45:02 PM
Yes I get there are other issues around width and pace, but I genuinely think having the left sided cb and a striker would have gained us more points this season, I'm sure of it. Easy to say but a proper experienced striker occupying the defenders probably gets us a positive result against them last night and Burnley. Still not perfect but less of a crisis. Then with Coleman and Bolasie back we can then add the variety.
I don't want to be a Koeman apologist but I feel sorry that he was let down a bit with transfers. He is to blame though for not using Lookman and Davies more and the energy they bring enough
Post by: Macca77 on October 20, 2017, 04:56:03 PM
Deserves whatever the club throw at him. Idiot of the highest order and an embarrassment to the club.
Yep, should name and shame him as well.
Post by: KevtheRat on October 20, 2017, 04:59:44 PM
Yep, should name and shame him as well.
Pretty sure they will do if the police are involved.
Post by: blueToffee on October 20, 2017, 08:57:13 PM
Yep, should name and shame him as well.
To be honest, for the benefit of the kid I'd just let them deal with it without much media fuss if possible.
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on October 21, 2017, 01:27:39 AM