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Title: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Everton News on December 20, 2017, 05:57:26 PM
Sandro linked with move back to Malaga

Sandro Ramirez could be on his way out of Everton after just six months as his former boss at Malaga says he is hopeful that Sandro could return in January.

Source: Sandro linked with move back to Malaga (https://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2017/12/sandro-linked-move-back-malaga/)
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 20, 2017, 06:00:37 PM
Seems very unlikely. He was on about 5k a week when he was there
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: mikey_blue on December 20, 2017, 06:01:31 PM
He'll have to take a massive hit on wages. 

His little lay off and run that Lookman ignored showed enough of a sign for me that we should keep him till the summer. Got to give the lad some minutes in games like that.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Lxxx on December 20, 2017, 06:16:00 PM
Send him back on loan, get him match fit and his confidence back again playing every week and tell him to report back for pre season training for a fresh start.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: BlueMaquis on December 20, 2017, 06:19:26 PM
I would send him on loan to an English rugby league club, then get him back when he's ready to steamroll defences.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Lxxx on January 16, 2018, 09:04:30 PM
Turned down a loan approach by Real Betis apparently.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Mayor Farnum on January 16, 2018, 09:12:24 PM
It's not worked out and seems unlikely to. He'll probably want a pay off to go but it would be best for all concerned if we parted company permanently.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Ravardo on January 17, 2018, 12:41:11 AM
I know its htc but there saying we want £8.8m for him to get rid permanently

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/01/16/report-everton-reject-loan-bid-for-sandro-ramirez-toffees-want-8/
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: BlueMaquis on January 17, 2018, 06:43:32 AM
Fuck's sake, is he really that bad? And how do we know if he's never given a chance?
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: everton1952 on January 17, 2018, 05:08:43 PM
Apparently he is going on a free to Spain though it might be to Portugal. No idea which club.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Macca77 on January 17, 2018, 05:21:09 PM
Shame it hasn't worked out for him, no where near good enough
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: formerKHL on January 17, 2018, 05:32:02 PM
keep him...help him settle down...give him game time...

ggod goal scorer in there....
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Ravardo on January 17, 2018, 07:03:01 PM
Id rather he went out on loan to a prem club for the remaining part of the season to see if he can cut it and then deal with him at the end of the season
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: GLewis on January 17, 2018, 07:20:16 PM
As always need to bare in mind that the player might only want to go back to Spain.

If he doesnít ever envisage settling here then thereís not many options for us.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Redartin on January 17, 2018, 07:21:31 PM
Seems very unlikely. He was on about 5k a week when he was there
Now, according to the other thread he is on a 6 figure sum.
If I was him I'd stay, what incentive is there to go and take a huge pay cut?
Another fantastic fuck up by the powers that be.

He seems to have become Big Sam's misfit. Bit like Niasse was to Koeman.
Once Big Sam goes the next guy may love him, hang in there son.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: dax78 on January 17, 2018, 08:02:46 PM
Id rather he went out on loan to a prem club for the remaining part of the season to see if he can cut it and then deal with him at the end of the season

What prem club do you think would take him
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: TheTone on January 17, 2018, 08:43:38 PM
thought this lad was the bees knees last Summer, kin youtube clips

Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: themilkycoffees on January 17, 2018, 08:50:29 PM
Baffles me how he has been completely wrote off after a handful of games. People forget the lad is still a young player, new team (playing poorly) and in a new country. Far more experienced players have struggled to adapt, and have been given more time. It would be nice to secure safety and then see if we can give players like Sandro and Klaassen a chance to adapt before we make a final decision. I think there's a player in there.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Major Clanger on January 17, 2018, 08:56:53 PM
He may be able to eventually adapt, but how would that work? We're too shit to carry him as a passenger for a whole season in the hope he'll come good. No-one is likely to take him on loan either based on his performances so far. And you can't acclimatise just by attending trainings and playing for the U23s. (Not to mention how he'd feel about it.)

Can anyone really see a realistic way out?
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: themilkycoffees on January 17, 2018, 09:03:09 PM
We've carried a number of players all season. This season is a write off. A top 10 finish is the best we can hope for and the only reason I'm confident we're staying up is because there are about 6 or 7 teams who are even worse than us. Now is surely the time to give players like Sandro a go? 14 goals in La Liga last season for a struggling Malaga team. Are we saying if a new signing doesn't work in the first 5-6 games, then they're not good enough, end of discussion?
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: ally2 on January 18, 2018, 03:30:46 AM
I love him. I don't know why. But he does have a habit of running away from the ball and the penalty area, which is a sort of problem.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Lxxx on January 18, 2018, 03:50:57 AM
I love him. I don't know why. But he does have a habit of running away from the ball and the penalty area, which is a sort of problem.

He doesn't tend to stay on his feet too often either. Which again, is a sort of problem.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: everton1952 on January 18, 2018, 04:58:49 AM
He'll have to take a massive hit on wages. 

His little lay off and run that Lookman ignored showed enough of a sign for me that we should keep him till the summer. Got to give the lad some minutes in games like that.
I must have missed that little lay off and run, or forgotten it.  To those  who have expressed their love for Senor Sandro, I am sure they will get over it.  There is no room for passengers on this ship, we already have more than our fair share of them both young and no longer so young. We need to unload a few players, not just one or two, so bye bye Sandro. Go find your sunglasses.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Ravardo on January 18, 2018, 05:14:49 AM
What prem club do you think would take him

Maybe one of the promoted sides,, west brom, swansea or stokielona
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: themilkycoffees on January 18, 2018, 03:27:25 PM
He's only played 277 minutes in the PL. 3 full games worth of minutes. How is he expected to adapt?
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Ramjam on January 18, 2018, 03:28:43 PM
It would be a crying shame if we released him and he went on to be a worldie
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: formerKHL on January 18, 2018, 04:07:32 PM
what a lot of people forget is we bought him as a centre forward when we had no suppliers of passes into the box

the majority of his goals in spain and for spain were scored in and around the 6 yard box....from good supply...

we bought rooney and siggurdson for that purpose...then chose not to play him......

when he's made an appearance its usually out of position....out wide of DCL ???

we now have Walcott and bolasie who can supply the ball into the box....and both rooney and siggurdson who can supply the through ball into the box.....

this bloke could be our zorro in the box......if given the chance....(excuse the shite Spanish)
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: therealdunc on January 18, 2018, 04:20:35 PM
Does make me laugh how some of our fans think they know better than the current and previous 2 managers who could all clearly see Sandro wasnít up to it.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Ramjam on January 18, 2018, 04:22:57 PM
Does make me laugh how some of our fans think they know better than the current and previous 2 managers who could all clearly see Sandro wasn't up to it.

But most fans also say that those same two managers werenít and arnt up to it either
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: therealdunc on January 18, 2018, 04:27:29 PM
While that may be the case , they are in a better position seeing the players every day than a fan who at best watches them in the flesh for the U23s or from the sub bench.

There could be a whole host of reasons including the players attitude why itís not working out, best to trust the people who work with them every day to decide.

We are desperate for quality going forward, if people really think if they were any good they would not be playing, have a word with yourself
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Ramjam on January 18, 2018, 04:41:42 PM
Iím not totally disagreeing with you here just saying that the previous managers and current manager has gotten so much wrong is it not possible that they have also got this wrong as well? I say keep him and put him out on loan for 12 months then judge him
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Lxxx on January 18, 2018, 04:44:41 PM
what a lot of people forget is we bought him as a centre forward when we had no suppliers of passes into the box

the majority of his goals in spain and for spain were scored in and around the 6 yard box....from good supply...

we bought rooney and siggurdson for that purpose...then chose not to play him......

when he's made an appearance its usually out of position....out wide of DCL ???

we now have Walcott and bolasie who can supply the ball into the box....and both rooney and siggurdson who can supply the through ball into the box.....

this bloke could be our zorro in the box......if given the chance....(excuse the shite Spanish)

I don't think he was ever a centre forward was he? A lot of his goals in Spain were random shots from tight angles and distances, which you could either look at as him being on a bit of a run of form (first season in top flight football) or he's someone who'll create goals for himself. Granted he's not had much chance but the signs are the former not the latter.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: themilkycoffees on January 18, 2018, 05:01:03 PM
Not saying he's anywhere near the same level but I swear some of our fans would have wrote Kane off if he was an Everton player, as was shite when he first broke in at Spurs.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Ramjam on January 18, 2018, 05:04:41 PM
Not saying he's anywhere near the same level but I swear some of our fans would have wrote Kane off if he was an Everton player, as was shite when he first broke in at Spurs.

On loan at Leicester I think he scored 2 in 15 games
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: formerKHL on January 18, 2018, 05:12:31 PM
Does make me laugh how some of our fans think they know better than the current and previous 2 managers who could all clearly see Sandro wasnít up to it.

and yet you have an opinion on everything without realy knowing......

also your facts are incorrect..sandro was brought in by koeman..allardyce has "inherited" him....he wasn't here for the previous 2 managers....only the one....
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: formerKHL on January 18, 2018, 05:18:00 PM
I don't think he was ever a centre forward was he? A lot of his goals in Spain were random shots from tight angles and distances, which you could either look at as him being on a bit of a run of form (first season in top flight football) or he's someone who'll create goals for himself. Granted he's not had much chance but the signs are the former not the latter.

he played upfront for both his club and country....and scored goals which is why we bought him...he looked just what we needed..

I think there's a good player in there tbh and would like to see us give him more of a chance....

but not my decision....
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Ramjam on January 18, 2018, 05:18:12 PM
and yet you have an opinion on everything without realy knowing......

also your facts are incorrect..sandro was brought in by koeman..allardyce has "inherited" him....he wasn't here for the previous 2 managers....only the one....

Think he means Rhino as well
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: themilkycoffees on January 18, 2018, 05:21:15 PM
Does make me laugh how some of our fans think they know better than the current and previous 2 managers who could all clearly see Sandro wasnít up to it.

Because all those managers have done so well. How dare we question them...
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: formerKHL on January 18, 2018, 05:25:26 PM
Think he means Rhino as well

ye probably....however, I put rhino down as....he wasn't our actual manager just a stand in for a few games....
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: everton1952 on January 18, 2018, 05:25:53 PM
The sooner he (and Klassen) are gone the better. I will scream if I see another "there is a player in there somewhere" . Cue for someone.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: formerKHL on January 18, 2018, 05:29:04 PM
The sooner he (and Klassen) are gone the better. I will scream if I see another "there is a player in there somewhere" . Cue for someone.


everyones entitled to their opinion....so start screaming....because there's a player and goal scorer in there....
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: everton1952 on January 18, 2018, 06:11:34 PM
aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh1!!!!!!
There you are.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: ally2 on January 18, 2018, 07:07:43 PM
There's a player in there
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Lxxx on January 18, 2018, 07:19:44 PM
Seems silly to be letting him go when the potential upside is so much more rewarding than a few million quid in the pot to put towards another unimaginative addition to the squad.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Macca77 on January 18, 2018, 07:29:20 PM
It hasn't worked out for him at all, same as Klaassen, if they were tearing it up in training then I'm pretty sure they would get their chance, its obvious they're not doing enough, Sandro is not a loss at all if we sell him.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: everton1952 on January 18, 2018, 08:24:49 PM
To be fair he will be a big loss to those who have expressed their love for him on here.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: formerKHL on January 18, 2018, 08:59:14 PM
To be fair he will be a big loss to those who have expressed their love for him on here.

not love for him just reckon there's a good player/goal scorer in there somewhere....

Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Craig_1878 on January 18, 2018, 09:03:06 PM
It makes very little sense to sell him at this point as his value will understandbly be quite low atm. It would make much more sense to loan him to another club where he's gonna get game time and either sell him in the summer or bring him back if he performs - either way the lad needs to play, its doing nobody any good having him rot in thr reserves - same goes for Klaasen
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: everton1952 on January 18, 2018, 10:20:01 PM
not love for him just reckon there's a good player/goal scorer in there somewhere....


I can feel a scream coming on.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Evertonian in NC on January 18, 2018, 10:30:22 PM
I never understood why we didn't try a 4-4-2, which certainly suited our personnel and would have given Sandro a fair chance to settle/succeed.  We have to take chances on "wild card" players in order to strike it big up front.  Our conservatism here was very depressing.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: stirlingblue on January 18, 2018, 10:38:25 PM
Think we've got to consider the optics on this one.

Whenever we try to sign the next young up and coming player they're going to look at what we've done in the past.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 18, 2018, 11:08:54 PM
A big factor that hasnít really been mentioned...I donít think he wants to be here.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: GLewis on January 18, 2018, 11:33:14 PM
A big factor that hasnít really been mentioned...I donít think he wants to be here.

Ooh, me, me...

As always need to bare in mind that the player might only want to go back to Spain.

If he doesnít ever envisage settling here then thereís not many options for us.

;)
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: brap2 on January 19, 2018, 12:09:42 AM
Baffles me how he has been completely wrote off after a handful of games. People forget the lad is still a young player, new team (playing poorly) and in a new country. Far more experienced players have struggled to adapt, and have been given more time. It would be nice to secure safety and then see if we can give players like Sandro and Klaassen a chance to adapt before we make a final decision. I think there's a player in there.

Reckon weíve overstretched on wages
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: GLewis on January 19, 2018, 12:26:02 AM
Reckon weíve overstretched on wages

Itís easy to forget because players are either injured or have been woefully out of form but weíve got way more senior players than ever, probably.

Eg CBs, Mori is probably on the lowest wage and Iím guessing heís on a decent whack.

Then weíve got Holgate who will be on more than your standard, brought through young defender.

CMs, again Besic on probably the lowest wage but heís about 7th choice (which should be an academy player etc).

Strikers, Niasse on 50k will be the lowest of him, Tosun and Sandro.

If some of the more expensive players donít want to stick it out or look miles off the pace itís not as easy to just think £5m a year is ok to write off, when that could be spent on someone who either wants to be here or is more likely to adapt.

5 years ago weíd have had no choice but to give these players 18-24 months to sort it out as theyíd have been first sub (at worst). Now theyíre not even in the squads.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: sam of the south on January 19, 2018, 12:51:42 AM
Itís easy to forget because players are either injured or have been woefully out of form but weíve got way more senior players than ever, probably.

Eg CBs, Mori is probably on the lowest wage and Iím guessing heís on a decent whack.

Then weíve got Holgate who will be on more than your standard, brought through young defender.

CMs, again Besic on probably the lowest wage but heís about 7th choice (which should be an academy player etc).

Strikers, Niasse on 50k will be the lowest of him, Tosun and Sandro.

If some of the more expensive players donít want to stick it out or look miles off the pace itís not as easy to just think £5m a year is ok to write off, when that could be spent on someone who either wants to be here or is more likely to adapt.

5 years ago weíd have had no choice but to give these players 18-24 months to sort it out as theyíd have been first sub (at worst). Now theyíre not even in the squads.

Spot on.

And the crazy thing is, we've never had this many options, and yet we've rarely looked collectively worse (apart from pre-Moyes days)

But that can't be the coaching or tactics, though, as it upsets a few on here if you suggest that.

It HAS to be that EVERY player we've brought in (bar maybe Pickford) is FAR worse than we thought they were going to be.

It's the ONLY explanation.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: gizzblue on January 19, 2018, 12:58:20 AM
Seems strange, his contract is longer than Sam's and he's done about as well as the new manager to most of us.. yet the same people who love Sam want Sandro gone 😅😅😅...it truly is a funny old game .

Also there is a player in there ...I believe the shit managers he's had and still has here havnt a clue .👍...he will go on to tear it up and everyone wilk be blaming the owners again.
Imho.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 19, 2018, 01:08:36 AM
Spot on.

And the crazy thing is, we've never had this many options, and yet we've rarely looked collectively worse (apart from pre-Moyes days)

But that can't be the coaching or tactics, though, as it upsets a few on here if you suggest that.

It HAS to be that EVERY player we've brought in (bar maybe Pickford) is FAR worse than we thought they were going to be.

It's the ONLY explanation.
I always thought we were wank when moyes had too many options. There were times, few admittedly where he tried rotation and failed

When we had the bare eleven was when we were at our best
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: GLewis on January 19, 2018, 01:11:52 AM
Spot on.

And the crazy thing is, we've never had this many options, and yet we've rarely looked collectively worse (apart from pre-Moyes days)

But that can't be the coaching or tactics, though, as it upsets a few on here if you suggest that.

It HAS to be that EVERY player we've brought in (bar maybe Pickford) is FAR worse than we thought they were going to be.

It's the ONLY explanation.

I do think we have too many players.

If you have a choice of 3 players for one position itís very tempting and much easier to pick b if a has a bad game, likewise moving on to c when b doesnít work out.

If c hasnít played for 2 months is he likely to be in tune with whatever the manager wants? Probably not so weíre back to option a. Ad infinitum.

If youíve got 6 players for 4 positions youíre much more likely to put a lot of effort into making them better. Itís easier to focus on individuals.

Also the two options not picked will pay more attention as they know theyíll be playing soon.

So we need a trim but we also need a settled plan which can identify which players are surplus.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: GLewis on January 19, 2018, 01:16:45 AM
I always thought we were wank when moyes had too many options. There were times, few admittedly where he tried rotation and failed

When we had the bare eleven was when we were at our best

2008 to 2009 was great for this as an example.

We had about 5/6 senior midfielders who knew their roles but this also meant that Rodwell / Gosling got plenty of minutes and they were slotting into a unit that knew what it was doing.

In defence we had 3 CBs options, so all played. 

At left back, one of the CB options would cover there, meaning the other 2 were playing.

If Hibbert was injured, Neville played RB freeing up a midfield slot etc.

It was top level quality in couple of areas and probably one or two players short of numbers (eg no Arteta replacement) from being ideal.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: sam of the south on January 19, 2018, 01:55:22 AM
I always thought we were wank when moyes had too many options. There were times, few admittedly where he tried rotation and failed

When we had the bare eleven was when we were at our best

Moyes' forte was fostering and fully exploiting that backs to the wall siege mentally, as well; so when the chips were down, and we were down to the bare bones, particularly against better than average sides, we would often rise to the occasion (except for against RS, United et al)
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: ally2 on January 19, 2018, 02:25:43 AM
Some weird revisionist history going on here re: Moyes.  I know we played some decent stuff towards the end but the vast majority of his tenure was absolute shite football launching it from the back, losing it up top and watching the ball come back again and again.  I'm struggling to warm to that now just as I did then, and to label it as 'spirit' is quite some leap.  'Plucky' is more like it.  But I thought we all hate plucky.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: di_guyo on January 19, 2018, 02:31:06 AM
Some serious denial going on here. He's on mega wages due to a good season against inferior defences. He's a risk we probably do need to be taking, but it's clearly not paid off. He looks awful. Forget for a minute that he's Spanish and that's 'sexy', forget how we love an exotic signing/player and focus on what you've seen... Nothing but truly awful.

Niasse, who is a terrible footballer, is more effective and was playing ahead of him. Love niasse attitude, but no one here is going to argue that he's a gifted player, but somehow there's a player in there for Sandro? He's been truly abysmal and he doesn't look capable to play at this level, at a club with our aspirations... At all.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: bogie on January 19, 2018, 03:03:19 AM
has he played well of us to even get a good youtube out of it
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Lxxx on January 19, 2018, 03:28:14 AM
If we want to get rid of him we'll have to pay him off. No-one is going to match his wages, he's grossly overpaid for his level so whatever fee we get for him will be discounted by his bung to go. I suppose if we get near to £10m for him we might break even overall and just have to put it down to one of those things.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: brap2 on January 19, 2018, 04:09:15 AM
Spot on.

And the crazy thing is, we've never had this many options, and yet we've rarely looked collectively worse (apart from pre-Moyes days)

But that can't be the coaching or tactics, though, as it upsets a few on here if you suggest that.

It HAS to be that EVERY player we've brought in (bar maybe Pickford) is FAR worse than we thought they were going to be.

It's the ONLY explanation.

I donít think itís particularly the quality of the player, because so many of them have preformed well for other sides, or other years in their careers.

Whatever plan we had and whatever system we were planning on playing, we ended up not getting the players in to play it. Giroud or Costa didnít come off, Kolasinac didnít come off, Koulibaliy didnít come off, Iím sure others can name more we were deffo in for but never finalised and tellingly never found plan Bís for.

Canít say much about Klaassen, Sandro, Keane, Sigurdsson and Rooneys individual performances, but only the latter two have staked any kind of claim to be good enough, but that may well have just been a tough situation to come into and they havenít got it together yet.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: sam of the south on January 19, 2018, 04:15:47 AM
I donít think itís particularly the quality of the player, because so many of them have preformed well for other sides, or other years in their careers.

Whatever plan we had and whatever system we were planning on playing, we ended up not getting the players in to play it. Giroud or Costa didnít come off, Kolasinac didnít come off, Koulibaliy didnít come off, Iím sure others can name more we were deffo in for but never finalised and tellingly never found plan Bís for.

Canít say much about Klaassen, Sandro, Keane, Sigurdsson and Rooneys individual performances, but only the latter two have staked any kind of claim to be good enough, but that may well have just been a tough situation to come into and they havenít got it together yet.

No, I don't think it's the quality of player either, I was being ironic.

Obviously the other ones you mentioned that we were in for would've helped considerably, but I still think the way our club is run from top to bottom, from boardroom to training pitch, is pretty poor right now, and lacking any real direction, personality, or identity, and as such even a better class of player would still not lift us into the top six, not while we are in such a conflicted mess.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: TerryFeckWit on January 19, 2018, 11:07:56 PM
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/954375815365644289

Sandro. 57 secs in. Smiling. There's a player in there!
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Ramjam on January 20, 2018, 04:12:52 AM
Iíve got a feeling that our season is about to take an upturn, seems like a feel good factor around training with our new signings. COYB
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: everton1952 on January 20, 2018, 05:35:06 AM
You are not permitted to be optimistic on here. You will invite abuse or mockery.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: gizzblue on January 20, 2018, 05:19:29 PM
You are not permitted to be optimistic on here. You will invite abuse or mockery.
Kinnel  optimism is all we have left .
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 20, 2018, 05:31:52 PM
You are not permitted to be optimistic on here. You will invite abuse or mockery.

I think youíre confusing optimism with saying dumb shit.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Bally on January 22, 2018, 05:31:42 AM
You are not permitted to be optimistic on here. You will invite abuse or mockery.
Hahahahaha hilarious

Tit
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Bluedylan on January 22, 2018, 05:44:17 AM
You are not permitted to be optimistic on here. You will invite abuse or mockery.

Have people been censoring what you say, mate? I wouldn't stand for that myself.

If, on the other hand, you're just giving an opinion that lots of people disagree with, well then you've got fuck all to moan about eh?
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Goaljira on January 31, 2018, 03:48:10 AM
Pauk Joyce confirms he's going to Sevilla on loan.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Bluescow on January 31, 2018, 03:49:31 AM
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/01/30/sandro
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 31, 2018, 03:49:56 AM
Pauk Joyce confirms he's going to Sevilla on loan.
Klaasen to napoli apparently

Two players not good enough for us going to better sides than us
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 31, 2018, 03:50:56 AM
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/01/30/sandro
Can you really say he's played 15 games?

Just being annoying really
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Goaljira on January 31, 2018, 03:52:04 AM
Dominic King saying theyve got a Ä9m option to buy, which is shockingly bad business if true.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 03:52:38 AM
He will tear shit up there, great move for him
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Shogun on January 31, 2018, 03:52:41 AM
Just don't think he's that good tbh.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: plowman2 on January 31, 2018, 03:54:44 AM
Klaasen to napoli apparently

Two players not good enough for us going to better sides than us
Bit like Deulafeu. All Italy wanted him, he goes to Barcelona and ends up at Watford! Strange
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 31, 2018, 03:55:27 AM
Dominic King saying theyve got a Ä9m option to buy, which is shockingly bad business if true.
King's quite reliable
Sadly
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: blueToffee on January 31, 2018, 03:57:03 AM
Just don't think he's that good tbh.

Maybe...maybe not. Really, who knows?

I don't think he's actually had a fair run here, in a new league to say one way or another.

What a mess the summer transfer window was. Still not sure about this one, I hope if we're shipping players out we're at least getting some players in to fill key positions.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 31, 2018, 03:58:44 AM
Klaasen to napoli apparently

Two players not good enough for us going to better sides than us

This guy makes a good point.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: SANA_DR0 on January 31, 2018, 03:59:19 AM
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/01/30/sandro

:(

not even a sweetener for Nzonzi as MS is staying..
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 04:00:06 AM
Klaasen to napoli apparently

Two players not good enough for us going to better sides than us

Yep, funny that isn't it
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: TheRam on January 31, 2018, 04:10:07 AM
Not arsed.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 31, 2018, 04:10:14 AM
Sandro is a sunshine boy and just didnít want to be here. His head was turned by the money but he just didnít settle. It happens.
Three managers didnít take to him, thatís pretty damning.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 31, 2018, 04:13:46 AM
King's quite reliable
Sadly
Because he only wanted to go back to Spain and most of the teams in La Liga havenít got a pot to piss in. Ä9m is still a decent profit on an absolute flop.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 04:14:51 AM
No loss at all, good to get him off the wage bill
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 31, 2018, 04:21:04 AM
Because he only wanted to go back to Spain and most of the teams in La Liga haven't got a pot to piss in. Ä9m is still a decent profit on an absolute flop.
You could argue its a loss given wages but hey ho
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 31, 2018, 04:22:24 AM
No loss at all, good to get him off the wage bill
Doubt they will be covering his wages tbh

It's a shame in that he came here and we all had such high hopes

Has he been given a fair run?
Probs not

Has he shown enough?
Probs not

Like I say, shame
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Ravardo on January 31, 2018, 04:36:08 AM
Obviously not a loan where  he'll be coming back then
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 31, 2018, 04:38:17 AM
What is he, 20?

Just donít think people would be so quick to write him off based on the limited evidence weíve had, especially given his success in the past, if he was English.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 31, 2018, 04:40:32 AM
Always love it when the Everton app breaks a transfer story.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Heisenberg on January 31, 2018, 04:55:58 AM
Strange that he's been given no real chance. 'Prem proven' or you're not getting a look in. Load of shit. Walsh is shite and so are the play it safe managers
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Confucius on January 31, 2018, 05:27:35 AM
Just don't think he's that good tbh.

Yeah, he is the anti Harry Kane. Good at u21 level and then gets worse
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: everton1952 on January 31, 2018, 05:44:46 AM
There is a player in there somewhere?
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: bluenuck on January 31, 2018, 05:52:10 AM
Strange that he's been given no real chance. 'Prem proven' or you're not getting a look in. Load of shit. Walsh is shite and so are the play it safe managers

Walsh and Koeman bought him...
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: everton1952 on January 31, 2018, 05:54:21 AM
Three not very good players out in one day is not bad going. One good one coming in I hope.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 31, 2018, 11:35:15 AM
Dominic King saying theyve got a Ä9m option to buy, which is shockingly bad business if true.

It's laughably bad. A try before you buy on a pittance.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Mayor Farnum on January 31, 2018, 01:50:28 PM
Strange that he's been given no real chance. 'Prem proven' or you're not getting a look in. Load of shit. Walsh is shite and so are the play it safe managers

I suspect they watch him in training.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Lxxx on January 31, 2018, 03:19:00 PM
Was on a hiding to nothing really. Young kid comes from a nice sunny climate playing and scoring every week to a miserable cold city where he doesn't speak the language, doesn't play football and has to watch a football club implode before his eyes. I wish him well and I can see why he was so desperate to get back to southern Spain.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Jamokachi on January 31, 2018, 03:38:35 PM
It's laughably bad. A try before you buy on a pittance.

We paid 5 and he's stunk the place out. It's not that bad.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Ross on January 31, 2018, 03:50:12 PM
If we can wash our hands of him without having to pay him any money owed on his contract as well as inserting  a sell on fee weíll have done a decent deal given how itís worked out and his desire to return home.

Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: velimski on January 31, 2018, 03:57:26 PM
Why is making a 50% profit on a player who doesn't even get on the bench such a bad deal?

Am I missing something?
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Jamokachi on January 31, 2018, 03:59:52 PM
Why is making a 50% profit on a player who doesn't even get on the bench such a bad deal?

Am I missing something?

'Cos everyone is worth 40m now innit.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 31, 2018, 04:04:20 PM
Why is making a 50% profit on a player who doesn't even get on the bench such a bad deal?

Am I missing something?

We wouldn't get a league 1 striker with the money. Also they get to have a look at him for half a season before deciding if he's worth the pittance
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Jamokachi on January 31, 2018, 04:07:29 PM
We wouldn't get a league 1 striker with the money. Also they get to have a look at him for half a season before deciding if he's worth the pittance

League one strikers aren't on north of 100k per week.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Lxxx on January 31, 2018, 04:09:15 PM
We'll have to subsidise the transfer if it goes through anyway. Sevilla can't maintain his wages at the same level so we'd have to either pay him off or give them a discount on the fee. Either way we're not making any money on this transfer.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: velimski on January 31, 2018, 04:16:46 PM
Let's continue to pay 120k per week for another 4 years for a player who doesn't even get on the bench.

That makes much more sense.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Mick 1995 on January 31, 2018, 04:41:02 PM
Let's continue to pay 120k per week for another 4 years for a player who doesn't even get on the bench.

That makes much more sense.

There's a very good chance we will be paying that for the majority of the 4 years anyway.
We still have a contract with him and if he hasn't handed in a formal transfer request then them contractual payments are still valid.

We could play a game of chicken and refuse to sell him unless he waives them like.
Gotta hope there is someone in the club with an iota of sense/any memory of what happend to Leeds whatsoever.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Lxxx on January 31, 2018, 05:02:43 PM
There's a very good chance we will be paying that for the majority of the 4 years anyway.
We still have a contract with him and if he hasn't handed in a formal transfer request then them contractual payments are still valid.

We could play a game of chicken and refuse to sell him unless he waives them like.
Gotta hope there is someone in the club with an iota of sense/any memory of what happend to Leeds whatsoever.

As daft as Moshiri appears to be he is an accountant by trade and it was his own money he put in. Whereas the idiots at Leeds were spending everyone else's money but their own.

Granted we're in a bit of a pickle but we're not looking down the barrel of League One.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 31, 2018, 06:03:44 PM
Let's continue to pay 120k per week for another 4 years for a player who doesn't even get on the bench.

That makes much more sense.

No send him on loan without the 9m fee agreed. If he's brilliant we get more. If he's only worth 9m we get the 9m and if he's worth less we get him back as we would anyway

I'm not sure why we'd agree to loan our players out with the agreed fee so low. There's no upside in that minimum fee for us
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Waltzer on January 31, 2018, 06:07:49 PM
Really disappointed to see that Swansea thought they had Sandro in the bag, if we had any intentions of sticking with him for the long run that had to be a better move?
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Lxxx on January 31, 2018, 06:08:51 PM
No send him on loan without the 9m fee agreed. If he's brilliant we get more. If he's only worth 9m we get the 9m and if he's worth less we get him back as we would anyway

I'm not sure why we'd agree to loan our players out with the agreed fee so low. There's no upside in that minimum fee for us

Unless Sevilla genuinely see it as just a loan deal as they've no real intention of buying him long term, which isn't at all out of the question seeing as they've waited until the end of the window and explored and missed out on a load of other targets before settling on Sandro. In which case the fee is immaterial.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 31, 2018, 06:16:28 PM
Unless Sevilla genuinely see it as just a loan deal as they've no real intention of buying him long term, which isn't at all out of the question seeing as they've waited until the end of the window and explored and missed out on a load of other targets before settling on Sandro. In which case the fee is immaterial.

It is until he proves he's worth 15m and they sign him if only to move him on.

Surely 9 million is a number we should be asking for now as a minimum. Not try him for 6 months first and that's the maximum.

He doesn't have to do very much there to be an absolute bargain.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: blargins on January 31, 2018, 06:47:29 PM
Why is making a 50% profit on a player who doesn't even get on the bench such a bad deal?

Am I missing something?

Because his wages to date have cost us the extra 50% profit.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: TheRam on January 31, 2018, 06:49:29 PM
Kinell lads. Some of you really dont know how football works

What are people expecting us to sell him for then?
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 06:57:47 PM
Be lucky to get our money back, 3 million tops
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: velimski on January 31, 2018, 06:58:02 PM
Because his wages to date have cost us the extra 50% profit.

50% on the transfer fee. Let's not muddle the figures by adding in wages. Every single employee receives wages. It's called being in employment.

Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: blargins on January 31, 2018, 07:02:49 PM
50% on the transfer fee. Let's not muddle the figures by adding in wages. Every single employee receives wages. It's called being in employment.



Right. So it's a cost. An employee is a cost to a company. In this case a huge cost because he added nothing to the company, and was therefore a burden.

If we get 9 million for him, we've broken even and at least got our outlay back.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 31, 2018, 07:10:44 PM
Kinell lads. Some of you really dont know how football works

What are people expecting us to sell him for then?

Well even Valencia had a 14m agreed fee. I'd expect a little protection for us in the deal or they can take him now for the 9 million
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: velimski on January 31, 2018, 07:29:26 PM
Right. So it's a cost. An employee is a cost to a company. In this case a huge cost because he added nothing to the company, and was therefore a burden.

If we get 9 million for him, we've broken even and at least got our outlay back.

Trying to recoup the lost wages seems a bit daft to me especially when you consider we'll be paying him another  £20m in wages for the remainder of his contract if nobody wants him.

Add the fact there's hardly a queue of clubs itching to take him off our hands for  £9m.

Never mind the fact that none of our 3 managers this season have actually rated him.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: blargins on January 31, 2018, 07:30:51 PM
Trying to recoup the lost wages seems a bit daft to me especially when you consider we'll be paying him another  £20m in wages for the remainder of his contract.

Add the fact there's hardly a queue of clubs itching to take him off our hands for  £9m.

Never mind the fact that none of our 3 managers this season have actually rated him.

If we sold him for 9 million, why would we be paying an additional 20 million?
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Lxxx on January 31, 2018, 07:36:35 PM
Come on lads, it's all getting a bit silly now.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: velimski on January 31, 2018, 07:47:15 PM
If we sold him for 9 million, why would we be paying an additional 20 million?

I'm not sure how you've interpreted me as saying that.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: blargins on January 31, 2018, 07:52:19 PM
I'm not sure how you've interpreted me as saying that.

Your first sentence in your previous reply. Unless I've misunderstood you which seems the case.

Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 07:57:06 PM
BREAKING NEWS

Sevilla have confirmed the signing of Sandro Ramirez from Everton on loan for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Heisenberg on January 31, 2018, 11:20:50 PM
Stunk the place out? He's barely played any minutes for us. I wonder if he'd of came through our own youth or was english, would he have been written off so easily? I think not
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: velimski on January 31, 2018, 11:29:15 PM
Your first sentence in your previous reply. Unless I've misunderstood you which seems the case.



I should have added 'if he remains unsold' at the end of it.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Goaljira on February 01, 2018, 12:51:40 AM
Trying to recoup the lost wages seems a bit daft to me especially when you consider we'll be paying him another  £20m in wages for the remainder of his contract if nobody wants him.

Add the fact there's hardly a queue of clubs itching to take him off our hands for  £9m.

Never mind the fact that none of our 3 managers this season have actually rated him.

And the majority of us havent rated our 3 managers this season.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: velimski on February 01, 2018, 01:14:52 AM
And the majority of us havent rated our 3 managers this season.

Mate, I agree with others who say he hasn't been given a fair crack, but the bottom line is that he is surplus to requirements by the people who actually make the decisions, and therefore haggling over a few quid or agreeing a 'low' (in some people's opinion) sale price seems a little pointless to me. Especially as he's on big wages.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Jamokachi on February 01, 2018, 07:46:02 AM
Stunk the place out?

Referring mainly to training here. 3 managers that didn't fancy him remember.

I'm gutted, would love to see him make it... and I hope he comes back from the loan and does. Looks unlikely now though.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Ross on February 03, 2018, 05:50:11 PM
Starts today for Seville.

Kick off at noon on Sky Sports for those interested.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Shogun on February 03, 2018, 05:53:22 PM
He's going to boss it isn't he
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 03, 2018, 05:54:53 PM
Straight into their champs league squad as   well apparently
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: blargins on February 03, 2018, 06:00:43 PM
He's landed on his feet then.

120k a week, in the CL and back playing.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on February 03, 2018, 06:47:41 PM
Heís been shite. Playing off the left and not involved at all. Sevilla getting dicked by Eibar...whoís entire starting 11 donít earn £120k p/w combined, btw.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Mayor Farnum on February 03, 2018, 07:01:58 PM
Looks just as lost as he did for us.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: TheTone on February 03, 2018, 07:13:48 PM
Nzonzi been shit too

Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: TheTone on February 03, 2018, 07:17:41 PM
4-1 down now, horror show
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Cereal Killer on February 03, 2018, 11:24:07 PM
4-1 down now, horror show

Glad to see he's spread the spirit of Everton around nice and early then
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Macca77 on February 16, 2018, 02:59:33 PM
https://twitter.com/prenno/status/964411219925901312
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Lincs Toffee on February 16, 2018, 03:18:11 PM
https://twitter.com/prenno/status/964411219925901312
Well hopefully we should make a few quid on him, but what a fucking shambles we are really !
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Lxxx on February 16, 2018, 03:24:32 PM
https://twitter.com/prenno/status/964411219925901312

When you stink the place out I don't think you're in any position to be dictating what you do with your career.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: TheTone on February 16, 2018, 05:05:47 PM
the picture of him there falling down sums up his Everton career
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: School of Science on February 16, 2018, 05:32:47 PM
Expected such big things out of him as well, wanted him more than any of our other signings in the summer...What a monumental let down.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Danny on February 16, 2018, 05:33:52 PM
Well hopefully we should make a few quid on him, but what a fucking shambles we are really !

In this market I don't see why we shouldn't be asking for 15+ million, yes we got him very cheap because of his release clause but if he hadn't had that Malaga would have been demanding at least 20.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Paddockoldie on February 16, 2018, 06:05:32 PM
Shame but he's never looked happy in his time here. Suits the Spanish league deffo not Prem level physically or mentally it seems.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Ross on February 16, 2018, 06:18:16 PM
How many Spanish clubs are capable of paying the reputed wages heís on?

Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Lxxx on February 16, 2018, 06:27:15 PM
How many Spanish clubs are capable of paying the reputed wages heís on?



Three and he's not good enough for any of them.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Ross on February 16, 2018, 06:33:31 PM
Three and he's not good enough for any of them.

Yeah, from what Iíve read the rest donít even pay half of what heís on to their top players. Could get very acrimonious this.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Macca77 on February 16, 2018, 06:34:25 PM
No loss at all is he really, just not good enough, not the first young foreign player to find it hard to adapt and wont be the last
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Shogun on February 16, 2018, 06:34:26 PM
Think people are giving him a very easy ride considering weíre paying him £120k week and he isnít prepared to stay and male the effort to make it work.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: School of Science on February 16, 2018, 06:52:28 PM
Think people are giving him a very easy ride considering weíre paying him £120k week and he isnít prepared to stay and male the effort to make it work.

I imagine he would be on a long as well as lucrative contract, sod him the bottler, the ball's in our court.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: gizzblue on February 16, 2018, 06:54:02 PM
Think people are giving him a very easy ride considering we're paying him £120k week and he isn't prepared to stay and male the effort to make it work.
In all reality probably promised the world by Walsh n Koeman and got nothing short of shelved and his career put on pause .
Paid a small fortune yes ,but if we dont play him how is he supposed to earn it ?....or even try to adjust so he could .
Very much like Tosun now wasted money or wasted talent ??.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Cozzie on February 16, 2018, 10:38:49 PM
Possibly one of the worst players I have ever seen being honest, that is genuinely not an over the top exaggeration.

I have never seen a single player look LESS of a footballer than this guy, offers absolutely nothing.

The only player that comes close thinking is probably that Simon Elliot who cameo-ed for a few minutes for Fulham when they played us at Goodison, which in turn is probably the most I have ever pissed myself laughing at a game ever, was just hilarious, it was like they won him in a raffle or something.

Truly one of the biggest wastes of space I have ever seen pull on the blue shirt, summed up when he ran and tripped over the feet of Cuco Martina trying to get the ball off him in a stationary position.

Guess he is the embodiment of how awful the Koeman/Walsh Era was.

When you have this absolute clown earning £120K a week and poor Seamus takes home £38,000 you know something serious is wrong. 
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: TheRam on February 16, 2018, 11:00:24 PM
Possibly one of the worst players I have ever seen being honest, that is genuinely not an over the top exaggeration.

I have never seen a single player look LESS of a footballer than this guy, offers absolutely nothing.

The only player that comes close thinking is probably that Simon Elliot who cameo-ed for a few minutes for Fulham when they played us at Goodison, which in turn is probably the most I have ever pissed myself laughing at a game ever, was just hilarious, it was like they won him in a raffle or something.

Truly one of the biggest wastes of space I have ever seen pull on the blue shirt, summed up when he ran and tripped over the feet of Cuco Martina trying to get the ball off him in a stationary position.

Guess he is the embodiment of how awful the Koeman/Walsh Era was.

When you have this absolute clown earning £120K a week and poor Seamus takes home £38,000 you know something serious is wrong. 

It's a bit over the top like
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Ramjam on February 17, 2018, 02:16:04 PM
It's a bit over the top like
I think itís a fair point about Coleman.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Gash on February 17, 2018, 02:23:12 PM
Coleman signed a new deal in May, there's not a chance he's 'only' on £38k a week.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on February 17, 2018, 03:00:48 PM
Thought Seamus got his doubled..
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Ramjam on February 17, 2018, 03:24:16 PM
Thought Seamus got his doubled..
So Sandro is still earning approximately 50% more even with his new deal.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: Cozzie on February 17, 2018, 03:56:44 PM
Coleman signed a new deal in May, there's not a chance he's 'only' on £38k a week.

I hope not, he should be one of our highest earners.
Title: Re: [News]Sandro linked with move back to Malaga
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on February 17, 2018, 04:06:21 PM
So Sandro is still earning approximately 50% more even with his new deal.
Yes good job Seamus is the loyal type or he'd have gone yonks ago..