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Title: Rooney
Post by: Shogun on December 27, 2017, 03:56:14 AM
Anyone doubting his ''illness'?
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Shropshire Blue on December 27, 2017, 04:03:26 AM
No
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Post by: everton1952 on December 27, 2017, 04:04:06 AM
Of course.  "I heard from a reliable source..... " you can fill in the gaps. Anything will do as there are some who want to believe anything.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: BlueBeagle on December 27, 2017, 04:17:00 AM
No
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Post by: blargins on December 27, 2017, 04:17:11 AM
He always gets ill around this time of year apparently.

But we shouldn't be relying on him anyway.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 27, 2017, 04:22:05 AM
Lots of booze around at Christmas.......

Just sayiní
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Thornton_19 on December 27, 2017, 04:40:18 AM
Anyone doubting his ''illness'?
I am.

He wouldn't visit a hospital full of kids if he had the flu.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: bluenuck on December 27, 2017, 04:42:53 AM
Yes.

I have no idea why, but it does seem fishy for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Lxxx on December 27, 2017, 05:08:39 AM
A grown man, fit professional sportsman no less, off work for a week with a cold?

Time off to save his marriage more like.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 27, 2017, 05:43:29 AM
Behave Shogs.

The lad loves playing football and you think he's ringing in sick cos he can't be arsed over Christmas?

He plays for Everton, not work for the fuckin council you bell.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 27, 2017, 05:45:14 AM
I am.

He wouldn't visit a hospital full of kids if he had the flu.

You can still go into hospitals if you're ill? To a degree.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: chang on December 27, 2017, 05:57:03 AM
I am.

He wouldn't visit a hospital full of kids if he had the flu.

Maybe caught it there ?

but to answer the question "no" - read he travelled the WBA last night with the squad but sent home this morning ?
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: blargins on December 27, 2017, 06:01:25 AM
A grown man, fit professional sportsman no less, off work for a week with a cold?

Time off to save his marriage more like.

Man flu.

Completely understandable if it's that.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Shropshire Blue on December 27, 2017, 07:21:18 AM
Half the world has no idea how we men suffer.


Title: Rooney
Post by: Simon Paul on December 27, 2017, 01:25:06 PM
You can still go into hospitals if you're ill? To a degree.

You're an absolute twat if you go into a hospital full of kids you don't know who have no immune systems while you've got the flu though

But then who says he visited at the time the news was released?
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 27, 2017, 02:20:12 PM
You're an absolute twat if you go into a hospital full of kids you don't know who have no immune systems while you've got the flu though

But then who says he visited at the time the news was released?

That's why I said "to a degree" you melt.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Gary1878 on December 27, 2017, 04:36:45 PM
Na he has Xmas off and will be back for the game on Saturday/NYD against United. Not sure why we didn't just say that we were resting him.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: everton1952 on December 27, 2017, 05:39:18 PM
Maybe he was sick? 
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Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 27, 2017, 05:43:37 PM
Heís worked his bollocks off and been a resounding success since he returned so got no issue with him having a rest. Could really do with him at Bournemouth though.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Bluedylan on December 27, 2017, 06:35:52 PM
Don't mind him having Chrimbo off at all if we get more out of him later in the season. Think Prem managers should consider it as a general strategy for older players who are important to the team.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Macca77 on December 27, 2017, 06:49:02 PM
Looks great here

https://twitter.com/WayneRooney/status/945312985421139968
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Ell Capitan on December 27, 2017, 07:46:25 PM
I think we can all agree you shouldnít go into a kids hospital if you have or suspect you might have the flu. Even just a little bit of it.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Escla on December 27, 2017, 08:12:18 PM
I think we can all agree he probably didnít.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: blue1948 on December 27, 2017, 08:24:44 PM
I think we can all agree he probably didnít.
Evidence please !----and all the best to you and yours for the New Year
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Lxxx on December 27, 2017, 08:34:02 PM
Evidence please !----and all the best to you and yours for the New Year

I think itís hospital policy across the board not to allow sick visitors into wards where there are sick children. Regardless if you are Englandís top goal scorer or not.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: therealdunc on December 27, 2017, 08:37:51 PM
I think we can all agree you shouldnít go into a kids hospital if you have or suspect you might have the flu. Even just a little bit of it.
Disagree

Jimmy Saville didnít have the flu

He should never have been allowed in a kids hospital
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Simon Paul on December 27, 2017, 08:38:18 PM
Evidence please !----and all the best to you and yours for the New Year

It's entirely probable that it was done a few days beforehand in order to get the release out to the media

These types of visits are heavily managed on both sides of the coin which is less possible to do on Christmas Day itself

He's donated a huge sum of money to several charities though, so a bit of stage management doesn't really matter.

If he hadn't got the flu nobody would have paid it any attention
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 27, 2017, 08:40:45 PM
It's entirely probable that it was done a few days beforehand in order to get the release out to the media

These types of visits are heavily managed on both sides of the coin which is less possible to do on Christmas Day itself

He's donated a huge sum of money to several charities though, so a bit of stage management doesn't really matter.

If he hadn't got the flu nobody would have paid it any attention
Me sister is head of the high dependcy ward at Alderhey...... She was saying that the players won't come in there. Only Rooney and Carragher did
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Simon Paul on December 27, 2017, 09:57:56 PM
Me sister is head of the high dependcy ward at Alderhey...... She was saying that the players won't come in there. Only Rooney and Carragher did

It's a heavy place mate to be fair
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 27, 2017, 10:10:46 PM
It's a heavy place mate to be fair
I know yeah, she said she understands but fair play to rooney and Carragher
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Simon Paul on December 27, 2017, 10:19:25 PM
I know yeah, she said she understands but fair play to rooney and Carragher

Yeah definitely

Not somewhere many people go voluntarily like
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on December 27, 2017, 10:36:23 PM
Yeah definitely

Not somewhere many people go voluntarily like
True, the one place you dont wish even your worst enemy to spend time at 🙏

Truly horrible experience.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Lxxx on December 27, 2017, 10:36:41 PM
Yeah definitely

Not somewhere many people go voluntarily like

Heart-breaking. I work with individuals who have been told by the medical system there's nothing more they can do, some of them kids, and we try and bring them back from the brink when allopathic medicine has failed them. It's tough meeting people at their lowest point.   
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 27, 2017, 10:37:02 PM
True, the one place you dont wish even your worst enemy to spend time at

Truly horrible experience.
Dunno how my sister does it tbh
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Simon Paul on December 27, 2017, 10:52:48 PM
Dunno how my sister does it tbh

The happy stories will outweigh the sad ones by a million miles
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 27, 2017, 10:53:32 PM
The happy stories will outweigh the sad ones by a million miles
I'm sure they do pal. She's still smiling so thats a bonus
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on December 27, 2017, 10:55:12 PM
Dunno how my sister does it tbh
You dont know how strong you are until strong is your only option...
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: mikey_blue on December 27, 2017, 11:02:53 PM
Heart-breaking. I work with individuals who have been told by the medical system there's nothing more they can do, some of them kids, and we try and bring them back from the brink when allopathic medicine has failed them. It's tough meeting people at their lowest point.   

We don't know we're born, sometimes.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Confucius on December 27, 2017, 11:12:27 PM
I know yeah, she said she understands but fair play to rooney and Carragher

i like Carragher. Something very Evertonian about him.
Title: Rooney
Post by: Simon Paul on December 28, 2017, 02:04:29 AM
i like Carragher. Something very Evertonian about him.

He doesn't know what he is anymore does he?
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Simon Paul on December 28, 2017, 02:04:59 AM
i like Carragher. Something very Evertonian about him.

He doesn't know what he is anymore does he?

Becoming a parody of himself at times
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Confucius on December 28, 2017, 03:00:29 AM
He doesn't know what he is anymore does he?

Becoming a parody of himself at times

Maybe. Always reckon he is quite fair towards us when being serious. Changes around derby days but then he is playing to the crow a bit.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 28, 2017, 03:26:10 AM
He doesn't know what he is anymore does he?

you can say that again......
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: boothill on December 28, 2017, 11:44:15 AM
Behave Shogs.

The lad loves playing football and you think he's ringing in sick cos he can't be arsed over Christmas?

He plays for Everton, not work for the fuckin council you bell.
so he doesnt have a ship named dignity either ?  fuck
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Redartin on December 28, 2017, 11:49:29 AM
Maybe. Always reckon he is quite fair towards us when being serious. Changes around derby days but then he is playing to the crow a bit.

Yeah he certainly likes the birds.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Everton Mint on December 29, 2017, 12:58:23 AM
The doubts of Rooney's illness were dispelled for me by the official story of him travelling for WBA game but getting sent home with a virus.

And it IS quite dangerous for a athlete to perform when they're ill.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Lxxx on December 29, 2017, 03:04:38 AM
The doubts of Rooney's illness were dispelled for me by the official story of him travelling for WBA game but getting sent home with a virus.

And it IS quite dangerous for a athlete to perform when they're ill.

Allardyce also said he was sent home with antibiotics and anyone who knows anything about health knows that antibiotics are useless against anything viral and thus arenít prescribed or recommended.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2017, 03:20:02 AM
Allardyce also said he was sent home with antibiotics and anyone who knows anything about health knows that antibiotics are useless against anything viral and thus arenít prescribed or recommended.

Yeah but most docs prescribe them just to keep you happy and out their office.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Simon Paul on December 29, 2017, 03:21:33 AM
Yeah but most docs prescribe them just to keep you happy and out their office.

Not when you're not paying the doctor personally
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Lxxx on December 29, 2017, 03:22:29 AM
Yeah but most docs prescribe them just to keep you happy and out their office.

Iím presuming we pay for a more premium standard of healthcare advice than that.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: blargins on December 29, 2017, 05:09:27 AM
Iím presuming we pay for a more premium standard of healthcare advice than that.

I was thinking back to my nhs days.

Haven't been prescribed antibiotics for a virus since.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Shropshire Blue on December 29, 2017, 05:54:02 AM
Quite a campaign on over here to restrict use of antibiotics as nasty germy things are becoming resistant to them. There are already strains that are totally resistant and there have been deaths.
Everton appear confident Rooney will make a full recovery.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: bluenuck on December 29, 2017, 01:21:29 PM
Lol.

It's a like a "doctor" Phil episode in here now. What the fuck do you lads know about anything antibiotics?  Lmao.

Anyone even have a phd??

 lolol
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Brownie20 on December 29, 2017, 03:12:32 PM
Lol.

It's a like a "doctor" Phil episode in here now. What the fuck do you lads know about anything antibiotics?  Lmao.

Anyone even have a phd??

 lolol

Yeah, but I don't think mine means what you think it means 😉
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Escla on December 29, 2017, 04:15:55 PM
The doubts of Rooney's illness were dispelled for me by the official story of him travelling for WBA game but getting sent home with a virus.

And it IS quite dangerous for a athlete to perform when they're ill.

Not sure why there were ever any doubts in the first place ? Player gets sent home by manager as he is unwell and suddenly heís a cunt for infecting sick children a week before he had the virus  ???
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Confucius on December 29, 2017, 07:02:50 PM
Lol.

It's a like a "doctor" Phil episode in here now. What the fuck do you lads know about anything antibiotics?  Lmao.

Anyone even have a phd??

 lolol


Mmmm, is someone going to tell him or should I?
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Bally on December 29, 2017, 07:05:44 PM

Mmmm, is someone going to tell him or should I?
I was going to but thought it be best that one of the medical professionals on here would be better suited to the job
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 29, 2017, 09:57:31 PM
He best play. The baldy bastard. Sick my great aunt fanny!
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: eugene on December 29, 2017, 10:01:34 PM
He best play. The baldy bastard. Sick my great aunt fanny!
Thanks mate got a new toupee off the mrs for crimbo, just starting to feel good about myself in fifteen years and boom you mention the B word !
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Everton Mint on December 30, 2017, 12:55:54 AM
We'll never know the truth of this...

Even it is is a lie and he's just had a break he deserves one more than most. He's getting on a bit and plays his heart out every week.

If he's fresh for the big games coming up then all the better.. we're certainly relying on him.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: blue1948 on December 30, 2017, 01:19:57 AM
I don't know what is going on , on here ! Everyone has a gripe about anything they can and it is fucking rubbish -damned if I do damned if I don't situation- I just read and laugh at the ridiculous comments .I cannot even get annoyed ,does anyone realise I haven't been banned for ages ? Let's get it together for the New Year please .How am I expected to be a bitter ,tired old fart when there is nothing worthwhile getting banned for ?
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Bluedylan on December 30, 2017, 01:44:47 AM
I don't know what is going on , on here ! Everyone has a gripe about anything they can and it is fucking rubbish -damned if I do damned if I don't situation- I just read and laugh at the ridiculous comments .I cannot even get annoyed ,does anyone realise I haven't been banned for ages ? Let's get it together for the New Year please .How am I expected to be a bitter ,tired old fart when there is nothing worthwhile getting banned for ?

Don't worry about it mate. It's a forum, with a large number of contributors from the varied backgrounds. Every single one of us talks shite sometimes and people have got extra free time on their hands over Christmas, so sometimes it leads to some mad conversations. Just take it for what it is, and either add to the madness or let it wash over you.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on December 30, 2017, 01:51:47 AM
Rooney should be dropped because of what he did to @bacon sarnie (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3715)'s aunt fanny
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Everton Mint on December 30, 2017, 04:14:25 AM
Rooney doesnt look too good in training today:

Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Everton Mint on December 31, 2017, 10:26:46 PM
My Everton highlight of the year 2017 - the return of the legend that is Wayne Rooney and his second debut goal, the winner vs Stoke.

(https://i.imgur.com/m6Qmcxq.jpg)

Here's to many more in 2018.

(https://i.imgur.com/31uSS1f.jpg)
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 31, 2017, 11:25:33 PM
Rooney should be dropped because of what he did to @bacon sarnie (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3715)'s aunt fanny

Haha, good one...be nice twattybollox or I'll send her to your gaff with Widow Twanky  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on December 31, 2017, 11:31:55 PM
Haha, good one...be nice twattybollox or I'll send her to your gaff with Widow Twanky  :thumbsup:
Nooo anyone but the Twanky, i'd rather have Jim Whyte and Moshiri with Bill as the Butler.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 31, 2017, 11:36:19 PM
Nooo anyone but the Twanky, i'd rather have Jim Whyte and Moshiri with Bill as the Butler.


Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no you wouldn't!
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Cozzie on December 31, 2017, 11:50:51 PM
My Everton highlight of the year 2017 - the return of the legend that is Wayne Rooney and his second debut goal, the winner vs Stoke.

(https://i.imgur.com/m6Qmcxq.jpg)

Here's to many more in 2018.

(https://i.imgur.com/31uSS1f.jpg)

Yes lad!
Title: Rooney
Post by: mikey_blue on December 31, 2017, 11:52:27 PM
My Everton highlight of the year 2017 - the return of the legend that is Wayne Rooney and his second debut goal, the winner vs Stoke.

(https://i.imgur.com/m6Qmcxq.jpg)

Here's to many more in 2018.

(https://i.imgur.com/31uSS1f.jpg)

I know it's fashionable for people to not like Rooney, but I love this post. All the best, Blues.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Macca77 on February 06, 2018, 04:51:03 AM
Been decent on MNF tonight

https://twitter.com/TheSportsman/status/960644489332355073
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: brap2 on February 06, 2018, 04:53:52 AM
Started very nervous but the last half or or so heís been really good talking about his life, football, past goals and stuff. Definitely warmed up. Smoothest Iíve seen him in the media I think.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Macca77 on February 06, 2018, 04:58:06 AM
Started very nervous but the last half or or so heís been really good talking about his life, football, past goals and stuff. Definitely warmed up. Smoothest Iíve seen him in the media I think.

Sky will be offering him a job as soon as he retires
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Gash on February 06, 2018, 04:59:58 AM
Opened up by saying it was good to be there and it's the closest Carragher's ever got to him.  :snigger:

Thought he was really good, didn't do his usual 'erm' every few words and came across well on it.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on February 06, 2018, 05:09:12 AM
Surprised he wants to go in to management.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: TheRam on February 06, 2018, 05:14:44 AM
He's spot on Rooney.

Driving brasses home after a bevy aside like.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Macca77 on February 06, 2018, 02:12:03 PM
https://twitter.com/Paddy_Boyland/status/960591636525961217
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Waltzer on February 06, 2018, 03:10:44 PM
I found it interesting when he said it was the worst performance hed seen from Chelsea for years and maybe a change was probably needed, yet seemed to be defending Sam. The first half Saturday was as bad as ive seen, no fight, no desire, nothing. Hes words were probably true for Chelsea and 100% right for us.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Lxxx on February 06, 2018, 03:32:05 PM
I know he has his critics and he loses concentration on the pitch at times but I want to see a manager tell him he's playing centre midfield from now on so get his head around that as his new position, get his mind and fitness right and give him the armband with the instructions to dig out his team-mates as often as he likes.

He's still got a lot to offer if he's managed right and his experience and knowledge of the game is second to none. We should have been building a side around him this season to get the best out of the final years of his career. He won't play every game but to be fuckin around as we have done this season we've missed a trick not using him to the best of his ability, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Lazarou on February 06, 2018, 09:15:06 PM
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Confucius on February 07, 2018, 12:38:47 AM
Management you say?

Anyway you can chat to Moshiri about taking over now?
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Everton Mint on February 07, 2018, 11:02:00 PM
Sounded like he took the HT team talk at Arsenal and told some home truths.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on February 08, 2018, 03:20:45 AM
Be ok him judging if he could stay in position for 5 fuckin minuites, he's been a big part of the problem when picked, O yea you weren't saturday were you Wayne..
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Macca77 on February 09, 2018, 06:39:57 PM
https://twitter.com/GregOK/status/961938409727111169
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: ajax_andy on February 09, 2018, 06:57:31 PM
Cant see Rooney having half the intelligence needed to be a manager at any level
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Ross on February 09, 2018, 06:59:26 PM
>>fast forward 2 years to the>> ďWhat is Wayne Rooney for?Ē thread.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 09, 2018, 07:15:10 PM
Cant see Rooney having half the intelligence needed to be a manager at any level

He has great instinct/footy intelligence on the pitch (aside from pure intellect, I doubt he'd be great at pub trivia or in a book club like Bainesy), but I think he might have trouble translating that to someone less talented/instinctive than himself.  Wouldn't be the first to struggle that way, for sure.

In any event, I'd want him to succeed at several stops elsewhere first, as it would be awful for him to manage here and not succeed.  Would tear the community apart.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Macca77 on February 09, 2018, 07:22:39 PM
https://twitter.com/GregOK/status/961943781758074887
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Escla on February 09, 2018, 07:29:59 PM
Cant see Rooney having half the intelligence needed to be a manager at any level

Bit harsh that !
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Lxxx on February 09, 2018, 08:01:19 PM
Bit harsh that !

But pretty accurate.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Jamokachi on February 09, 2018, 08:05:25 PM
But pretty accurate.

No it's not. A shy lad does not constitute a dumb lad.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Lxxx on February 09, 2018, 08:08:25 PM
No it's not. A shy lad does not constitute a dumb lad.

I'm not saying it does. Maybe he'll prove me wrong and mature with age but his life is littered with events that indicate he's got pretty poor judgement and indicate he's not the brightest.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Jamokachi on February 09, 2018, 08:17:04 PM
I'm not saying it does. Maybe he'll prove me wrong and mature with age but his life is littered with events that indicate he's got pretty poor judgement and indicate he's not the brightest.

Off the football field...
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: TheRam on February 09, 2018, 08:21:49 PM
He only gets the reputation of being dumb because of where he's from.

Young, working class lad from Liverpool means dumb according to the gutter press.



Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Escla on February 09, 2018, 08:39:20 PM
But pretty accurate.

So what is his IQ then if you know ? I think he has sufficient intelligence to put his vast experience as a top flight player with a top flight club under a top flight manager into becoming a top flight coach, which is what a Manager is in todayís world of DOFís and boardroom strategists.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Toddacelli on February 09, 2018, 08:46:03 PM
He gets hammered for the way he speaks - much like Beckham. The rags just like tearing an icon down - it's the only thing they like more than building one up.

I don't think he's stupid. I consider myself a reasonably intelligent, articulate, sensitive person - but I have done some ridiculously stupid things in the past. Mostly involving alcohol. But they don't define me.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Escla on February 09, 2018, 08:50:21 PM
He gets hammered for the way he speaks - much like Beckham. The rags just like tearing an icon down - it's the only thing they like more than building one up.

He is much improved in interviews, the ..erm..has almost disappeared, look at videos of Beckham 20 years ago and compare with today, would love to see Rooney manage Everton one day.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Alanvideo on February 09, 2018, 08:55:17 PM
Would love to see Rooney more often on tv after his playing days are over. Imagine him on SSN on Saturday to give a bit of opposition to Thompson & co.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: BlueMaquis on February 09, 2018, 09:06:31 PM
Would love to see Rooney more often on tv after his playing days are over. Imagine him on SSN on Saturday to give a bit of opposition to Thompson & co.

More likely we'll be seeing him on Celebrity Fat Fighters
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Lxxx on February 09, 2018, 09:12:14 PM
So what is his IQ then if you know ? I think he has sufficient intelligence to put his vast experience as a top flight player with a top flight club under a top flight manager into becoming a top flight coach, which is what a Manager is in today’s world of DOF’s and boardroom strategists.

Maybe so. I hope he does.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Lxxx on February 09, 2018, 09:22:43 PM
He is much improved in interviews, the ..erm..has almost disappeared, look at videos of Beckham 20 years ago and compare with today, would love to see Rooney manage Everton one day.

Yeh you could tell the other night he's clearly been coached on it as a few times you could see we went to say 'erm' but mentally checked himself.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Major Clanger on February 09, 2018, 09:31:57 PM
Iain Dowie has a degree in engineering and doesn't sound very intelligent either.

And it's debatable how much intelligence (in the narrow sense) really contributes to the success of a manager.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: brap2 on February 09, 2018, 09:45:26 PM
Not 100% convinced on the good player = good manager thing but if he wants to do it he should get his badges and work up, not a sweetheart deal at 35.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Juanito on February 09, 2018, 10:07:59 PM
I'm not saying it does. Maybe he'll prove me wrong and mature with age but his life is littered with events that indicate he's got pretty poor judgement and indicate he's not the brightest.

I donít know, you might be right but you could also say it could be down to impulse control, rather than intelligence or what he might do under the influence of alcohol, impeding his impulse.

Or lack of fear, as he demonstrated as a 16 year old, dancing through premiership defences like he was on the playground.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Toddacelli on February 09, 2018, 10:10:44 PM
Not 100% convinced on the good player = good manager thing but if he wants to do it he should get his badges and work up, not a sweetheart deal at 35.

Wish that was the case.

We'd be flying high with Koeman right now if that were true.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Major Clanger on February 09, 2018, 10:42:19 PM
Not 100% convinced on the good player = good manager thing but if he wants to do it he should get his badges and work up, not a sweetheart deal at 35.

Not only that, you can't even guess the managerial style of someone based on the kind of player they used to be: Lobanovskyi had been an incredibly flamboyant winger, as a manager he turned into one of the strictest disciplinarians of his age.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Ell Capitan on February 10, 2018, 01:58:29 AM
Reckon thereíll be a huge amount of build up to him finally becoming manager, then heíll probably do well in his first season, playing some divine football at times that we havenít seen at Everton in decades.

Then just as the fans hopes are raised about the glory days finally coming to Goodison, heíll fuck off to manage Man U.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: sam of the south on February 10, 2018, 02:14:23 AM
Reckon thereíll be a huge amount of build up to him finally becoming manager, then heíll probably do well in his first season, playing some divine football at times that we havenít seen at Everton in decades.

Then just as the fans hopes are raised about the glory days finally coming to Goodison, heíll fuck off to manage Man U.

Jesus, that's dark.

Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 10, 2018, 02:31:06 AM
Iain Dowie has a degree in engineering and doesn't sound very intelligent either.

And it's debatable how much intelligence (in the narrow sense) really contributes to the success of a manager.

Graeme Souness comes to mind.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: ajax_andy on February 10, 2018, 03:01:20 AM
He only gets the reputation of being dumb because of where he's from.

Young, working class lad from Liverpool means dumb according to the gutter press.





No a lot of it comes from his behaviour off the field coupled with his lack of dedication to his fitness (drinking & smoking) which combined give the impression of someone not hugely intelligent
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Alanvideo on February 10, 2018, 03:19:22 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/02/09/exclusive-jamie-carragher-interviews-wayne-rooney-want-manage/
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Major Clanger on February 10, 2018, 03:39:01 AM
No a lot of it comes from his behaviour off the field coupled with his lack of dedication to his fitness (drinking & smoking) which combined give the impression of someone not hugely intelligent

Again, Lobanovskyi. :)
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: ajax_andy on February 10, 2018, 03:47:07 AM
Again, Lobanovskyi. :)

Of course people can change or mature and become more of a well rounded individual.  I just don't see Rooney being able to become a brilliantly minded tactician.

He has worked with Ferguson so no doubt could man manage and motivate, but his lack of dedication to his physical well-being points imo to someone whose not suddenly going to dedicate himself mentally to becoming a top level or even lower level manager
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 10, 2018, 03:50:45 AM
Of course people can change or mature and become more of a well rounded individual.  I just don't see Rooney being able to become a brilliantly minded tactician.

He has worked with Ferguson so no doubt could man manage and motivate, but his lack of dedication to his physical well-being points imo to someone whose not suddenly going to dedicate himself mentally to becoming a top level or even lower level manager

Feel like this 'lack of dedication to fitness' is a big myth
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: ajax_andy on February 10, 2018, 03:52:07 AM
Feel like this 'lack of dedication to fitness' is a big myth

It's really not.  Who sits in a pool in Vegas drinking and smoking when their supposed to be getting fit for a world cup.

Plenty of examples like this over the years
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Major Clanger on February 10, 2018, 03:54:41 AM
Of course people can change or mature and become more of a well rounded individual.  I just don't see Rooney being able to become a brilliantly minded tactician.

He has worked with Ferguson so no doubt could man manage and motivate, but his lack of dedication to his physical well-being points imo to someone whose not suddenly going to dedicate himself mentally to becoming a top level or even lower level manager

I think we massively overestimate how intelligent these managers are, again in terms of the sort of general intelligence measured by IQ tests and so on.

Ferguson probably wouldn't perform very well in a logical quiz, yet he was one of the most successful managers ever, and his longevity on the top was unrivalled. He was an absolute master of how to play mind games, he knew exactly how to motivate his team, he knew how to delegate, he knew when to get rid of players (but the one time he tried to be clever and use data, he got it horribly wrong).

None of it requires that sort of intelligence. It probably doesn't hurt if you've got it, but I think it matters far less than we'd like to think. (This is also true in many other walks of life, but that's a different story.)
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: brap2 on February 10, 2018, 03:57:23 AM
No a lot of it comes from his behaviour off the field coupled with his lack of dedication to his fitness (drinking & smoking) which combined give the impression of someone not hugely intelligent

Iím going to be completely honest with you - I donít think it does.

He looks, talks and sometimes acts like a poor person - something this country is very good at is making people hate poor people.

Usually, itís young black men. If not black then a scouser will do, is the mentality.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: TheRam on February 10, 2018, 03:57:47 AM
It's really not.  Who sits in a pool in Vegas drinking and smoking when their supposed to be getting fit for a world cup.

Plenty of examples like this over the years

Who bloody doesn't?
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 10, 2018, 04:00:42 AM
It's really not.  Who sits in a pool in Vegas drinking and smoking when their supposed to be getting fit for a world cup.

Plenty of examples like this over the years

Again, it could have been one or two days off in the summer. Fucking hell, im sure most footballers bar Ronaldo, do this, but because he is a working class scouser, he gets picked on and its all over the press.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: brap2 on February 10, 2018, 04:02:18 AM
Who bloody doesn't?

The generation that criticised him grew up idolising footballers that were literally wreckheads, is the mad thing.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: sam of the south on February 10, 2018, 04:57:59 AM
The generation that criticised him grew up idolising footballers that were literally wreckheads, is the mad thing.

Yeah, the same generation that mock Millennials for living in a world that has a fair amount of health and safety regs attached to it, rules that were created by crusty Baby Boomers themselves
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on February 10, 2018, 06:46:37 AM
It's really not.  Who sits in a pool in Vegas drinking and smoking when their supposed to be getting fit for a world cup.

Plenty of examples like this over the years

He apparently had the lowest body fat percentage at Utd for years, so I think it's myth.

He might let it go a bit too much in he off seasons, but he's always where he should be once the season starts.

He's played in over 40 games near enough every single season since he broke through with us as a teenager, 55 one year for Utd, thats not including his international appearances.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: sam of the south on February 10, 2018, 06:51:38 AM
He apparently had the lowest body fat percentage at Utd for years, so I think it's myth.

He might let it go a bit too much in he off seasons, but he's always where he should be once the season starts.

He's played in over 40 games near enough every single season since he broke through with us as a teenager, 55 one year for Utd.

Do you have a link to the Rooney bodyfat percentage claim, because I work with bodyfat percentage pretty often, and I think it is highly unlikely or plain made-up (not by you)
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on February 10, 2018, 06:52:21 AM
Do you have a link to the Rooney bodyfat percentage claim, because I work with bodyfat percentage pretty often, and I think it is highly unlikely or plain made-up (not by you)

No a drug dealer told me. True story.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Jamokachi on February 10, 2018, 06:54:44 AM
cocaine will keep you skinny...
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: sam of the south on February 10, 2018, 06:55:43 AM
No a drug dealer told me. True story.

Nuff said
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on February 10, 2018, 06:57:47 AM
Nuff said

He had some video of Rooney pissed in his house wearing one of his Everton salmon home kits too, it was about 4 or 5 years ago. It was a strange encounter.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: sam of the south on February 10, 2018, 07:05:26 AM
He had some video of Rooney pissed in his house wearing one of his Everton salmon home kits too, it was about 4 or 5 years ago. It was a strange encounter.

Sounds like a top night
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Ramjam on February 10, 2018, 07:10:59 AM
He had some video of Rooney pissed in his house wearing one of his Everton salmon home kits too, it was about 4 or 5 years ago. It was a strange encounter.
Are you sure that it wasnít his Everton pyjamas if he was having a sleepover
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Lxxx on February 10, 2018, 03:43:49 PM
To be fair if you spend your life doing stupid things it shouldnít come as a surprise if people think youíre a bit stupid.

Of course he was growing up in the public eye while he was still a boy so every indiscretion was magnified, so there are mitigating circumstances.
Heís still young now which kind of goes unnoticed but perceptions often become reality, rightly or wrongly.

Anyway I hope he does have a great management career and maybe with us.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Ell Capitan on February 10, 2018, 03:56:19 PM
To be fair if he'd taken good care of himself he wouldn't have started declining age 27-28 and he'd be far closer to his peak now at 32 than he is. Let's be honest, he's a shadow of his former self, but his former self was so good that he's still easily good enough for our team.

This is a man who let himself be filmed getting knocked out cold boxing a mate in a fucking kitchen. That's not taking care of yourself, and idiotic on multiple levels.

I agree there is a magnification of his stupidity and lack of care for his own health for all the reasons people have outlined - his fame, being a poor scouser etc.

But at the same time there's rarely smoke without fire and Wayne has set off a fair few fires in his time.

Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 10, 2018, 04:24:32 PM
To be fair if he'd taken good care of himself he wouldn't have started declining age 27-28 and he'd be far closer to his peak now at 32 than he is. Let's be honest, he's a shadow of his former self, but his former self was so good that he's still easily good enough for our team.

This is a man who let himself be filmed getting knocked out cold boxing a mate in a fucking kitchen. That's not taking care of yourself, and idiotic on multiple levels.

I agree there is a magnification of his stupidity and lack of care for his own health for all the reasons people have outlined - his fame, being a poor scouser etc.

But at the same time there's rarely smoke without fire and Wayne has set off a fair few fires in his time.
I disagree with that
Most players start playing regular first team football at 20, they become a teams focal point at about 24 and begin to decline about 31

Rooney was a first team regular at 16 and a teams focal point at 18. He was miles ahead of the curve so it's no surprise to me that all the games took its toll in his late 20s
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Lxxx on February 10, 2018, 04:44:50 PM
I’m going to be completely honest with you - I don’t think it does.

He looks, talks and sometimes acts like a poor person - something this country is very good at is making people hate poor people.

Usually, it’s young black men. If not black then a scouser will do, is the mentality.

Think you're reading way too much into this.

Paul Scholes for example was an equally gifted player of his generation, from a working class background in a north west city. Again, equally uncomfortable in front of the media.
I don't remember people saying he was thick or deriding him for being stupid. But then again he didn't give people ammunition to think he was an idiot by getting filmed in his kitchen getting knocked out or driving birds home drunk in the early hours or getting filmed pissed while on England duty or drinking and smoking in Vegas etc etc... 

People are usually judged on their actions not their social status.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Ell Capitan on February 10, 2018, 05:20:29 PM
I disagree with that
Most players start playing regular first team football at 20, they become a teams focal point at about 24 and begin to decline about 31

Rooney was a first team regular at 16 and a teams focal point at 18. He was miles ahead of the curve so it's no surprise to me that all the games took its toll in his late 20s

Why should being a first team regular or a teams focal point aged 16 matter?

Itís not like other players arenít still playing football at that age - in reserves, u21 etc.

You could even argue that itís of benefit to rooney to be playing earlier as there will have been far more focus on him doing things like not playing too much football, having the right amount of recovery time after games, more care from physios, nutritionists etc.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 10, 2018, 05:39:13 PM
Why should being a first team regular or a teams focal point aged 16 matter?

It's not like other players aren't still playing football at that age - in reserves, u21 etc.

You could even argue that it's of benefit to rooney to be playing earlier as there will have been far more focus on him doing things like not playing too much football, having the right amount of recovery time after games, more care from physios, nutritionists etc.
It's the stress and physical nature that takes its toll

A lad playing u21 matches in front of 100 is a bit different from an 18yo leading the attack away at ac milan
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: TheRam on February 10, 2018, 05:40:53 PM
Why should being a first team regular or a teams focal point aged 16 matter?

Itís not like other players arenít still playing football at that age - in reserves, u21 etc.

You could even argue that itís of benefit to rooney to be playing earlier as there will have been far more focus on him doing things like not playing too much football, having the right amount of recovery time after games, more care from physios, nutritionists etc.

Because players who start playing for the first team at such an early age have a history of declining a lot earlier than players who break through at the age of 20.

By the time he was 18 he was playing for Manchester United in the champions league whilst also playing for England, being the main focal point of both teams.

That's a whole lot different than playing reserve football where the standard was just about league two level back then.

Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Jamokachi on February 10, 2018, 05:48:51 PM
Why should being a first team regular or a teams focal point aged 16 matter?

Itís not like other players arenít still playing football at that age - in reserves, u21 etc.

You could even argue that itís of benefit to rooney to be playing earlier as there will have been far more focus on him doing things like not playing too much football, having the right amount of recovery time after games, more care from physios, nutritionists etc.

You're chatting shit here I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: ajax_andy on February 10, 2018, 05:53:08 PM
No a drug dealer told me. True story.

I'm not sure using what Rooney's coke dealer said is a great way to backup your argument tbf 😂😂😂

*Not really suggesting Rooney takes drugs
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Ell Capitan on February 10, 2018, 05:54:20 PM
Because players who start playing for the first team at such an early age have a history of declining a lot earlier than players who break through at the age of 20.

By the time he was 18 he was playing for Manchester United in the champions league whilst also playing for England, being the main focal point of both teams.

Do they? I'm sure there are some, but there's plenty of examples of that not being the case.

Looking at other United stars, Beckham, Butt, Giggs, and Gary Neville all made their debut aged 17. None of them were going off the boil in their late 20s and none had declined anything like Rooney has. Giggs was playing to an incredible standard into his late 30s.

Some pretty massive revisionism going on here to pretend that Rooney couldn't have taken better care of himself or that's had nothing to do with his decline.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Ell Capitan on February 10, 2018, 05:55:29 PM
You're chatting shit here I'm afraid.

Quite possibly. Sticking to my guns though and let's see how it pans out.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: TheRam on February 10, 2018, 06:00:10 PM
Do they? I'm sure there are some, but there's plenty of examples of that not being the case.

Looking at other United stars, Beckham, Butt, Giggs, and Gary Neville all made their debut aged 17. None of them were going off the boil in their late 20s and none had declined anything like Rooney has. Giggs was playing to an incredible standard into his late 30s.

Some pretty massive revisionism going on here to pretend that Rooney couldn't have taken better care of himself or that's had nothing to do with his decline.

Nicky butt? Don't even know what he was doing in his 30s

Beckham was in America

Neville massively declined and admits he should've retired sooner.

Majority of players out there decline when they hit their 30s, especially players who have been playing at the highest level for as long as Rooney has.

I personally find it a bit mad how anyone can question his dedication to the game considering all he has achieved.

Even now, at 32 he's probably the best player for one of the biggest clubs in the country.



Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: GLewis on February 10, 2018, 06:01:28 PM
Do they? I'm sure there are some, but there's plenty of examples of that not being the case.

Looking at other United stars, Beckham, Butt, Giggs, and Gary Neville all made their debut aged 17. None of them were going off the boil in their late 20s and none had declined anything like Rooney has. Giggs was playing to an incredible standard into his late 30s.

Some pretty massive revisionism going on here to pretend that Rooney couldn't have taken better care of himself or that's had nothing to do with his decline.

Only Giggs started playing that early and is a completely different physique to Rooney.

Iíd agree that knowing his body he would have had to be puritanical to cover what most players can probably get away with without worry.

But Rooney has put in years of massive energy performances. Theyíre bound to take their toll.

Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on February 10, 2018, 06:02:28 PM
For me Wayne has lasted longer than everyone predicted-  breaking thruogh at 16 and a regular at 18-20,   everyone said he would be burnt out by 26,  so proved all the e-players and journo wrong
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: ajax_andy on February 10, 2018, 06:14:53 PM
Nicky butt? Don't even know what he was doing in his 30s

Beckham was in America

Neville massively declined and admits he should've retired sooner.

Majority of players out there decline when they hit their 30s, especially players who have been playing at the highest level for as long as Rooney has.

I personally find it a bit mad how anyone can question his dedication to the game considering all he has achieved.

Even now, at 32 he's probably the best player for one of the biggest clubs in the country.





Butt was playing at Newcastle to a high standard still
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Ell Capitan on February 10, 2018, 06:20:43 PM
Nicky butt? Don't even know what he was doing in his 30s

Beckham was in America

Neville massively declined and admits he should've retired sooner.

Majority of players out there decline when they hit their 30s, especially players who have been playing at the highest level for as long as Rooney has.

I personally find it a bit mad how anyone can question his dedication to the game considering all he has achieved.

Even now, at 32 he's probably the best player for one of the biggest clubs in the country.

I'm not questioning his dedication, just reckon if he'd taken taken better care of himself he would've prolonged his time at the peak of his game. His decline started before he hit his 30s. With all the evidence around us of him doing stupid shit - getting battered, smoking, getting KOd, putting on weight in the summer, etc - it's not ridiculous to think this may have impacted his longevity.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on February 10, 2018, 06:36:53 PM
I'm not sure using what Rooney's coke dealer said is a great way to backup your argument tbf 😂😂😂

*Not really suggesting Rooney takes drugs

It was bit tongue in cheek.

But that aside, the amount of games he's been involved in over the years shits on any idea that he's got fitness issues.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: GLewis on February 10, 2018, 06:46:38 PM
Butt was playing at Newcastle to a high standard still

He made 431 league appearances by the time he retired at 35. No idea on the starts / subs ratio but can guess that the Utd part would have had more subs that Rooney.

Rooney has 480 at 32. Most of which were at the best team in the country.

Thatís without CL games, England games etc.

No one, bar Newcastle fans, would have been bothered what Butt was doing for the last third of his career.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: brap2 on February 10, 2018, 07:09:38 PM
I canít remember what study it was but Iím sure someone looked at champions leagues finals and found the majority of players who make it to cl finals (peak of club football surely) have been playing first team since 17 years old.

All that probably says is that elite talent breaks through earlier like, but I thought it was interesting.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: GLewis on February 10, 2018, 07:17:10 PM
I canít remember what study it was but Iím sure someone looked at champions leagues finals and found the majority of players who make it to cl finals (peak of club football surely) have been playing first team since 17 years old.

All that probably says is that elite talent breaks through earlier like, but I thought it was interesting.

Yes could see this being true.

But would be interesting to see what level - eg playing at 17 in Holland isnít as hard as here.

And does it just mean made their debut at 17, or starting most weeks?
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: van der Meyde on February 10, 2018, 07:59:41 PM
Yes could see this being true.

But would be interesting to see what level - eg playing at 17 in Holland isnít as hard as here.

And does it just mean made their debut at 17, or starting most weeks?
I think @brap2 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=666) is referring to this from Brian Marwood:

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Brian Marwood, the Managing Director of City Football Services, agreed.

ďWe did some research last year and discovered that in the last 10 years 83% of players who featured in the quarter-final stage of the Champions League had all played first team football at 17,Ē he said.

It's not necessarily a case of elite talent breaking through earlier though - take a look at the players in last season's CL final, most started out at non-elite clubs with less competition. City believe, for example, that young players have improved because of the challenge of first team togger and because they've failed and learned from their mistakes.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: ajax_andy on February 10, 2018, 09:21:24 PM
He made 431 league appearances by the time he retired at 35. No idea on the starts / subs ratio but can guess that the Utd part would have had more subs that Rooney.

Rooney has 480 at 32. Most of which were at the best team in the country.

Thatís without CL games, England games etc.

No one, bar Newcastle fans, would have been bothered what Butt was doing for the last third of his career.

Not sure anyone gives a shit what Rooney's been doing in the last 3rd of his career either tbh
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: GLewis on February 10, 2018, 09:52:19 PM
Not sure anyone gives a shit what Rooney's been doing in the last 3rd of his career either tbh

They do because heís been hammered for a lot of them.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: GLewis on February 10, 2018, 09:53:06 PM
I think @brap2 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=666) is referring to this from Brian Marwood:

It's not necessarily a case of elite talent breaking through earlier though - take a look at the players in last season's CL final, most started out at non-elite clubs with less competition. City believe, for example, that young players have improved because of the challenge of first team togger and because they've failed and learned from their mistakes.

Yes.

So in the context of this thread Rooney has had to have all that at elite level.

Thatís a burden.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Macca77 on February 15, 2018, 02:38:32 PM
https://twitter.com/ColeenRoo/status/964014326704197632
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: TheRam on February 15, 2018, 02:46:05 PM
Awful name
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Cereal Killer on February 15, 2018, 02:51:16 PM
They wanted to go with Big Mac but found that name was copyrighted
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Rodenplav64 on February 15, 2018, 03:04:48 PM
I'm not questioning his dedication, just reckon if he'd taken taken better care of himself he would've prolonged his time at the peak of his game. His decline started before he hit his 30s. With all the evidence around us of him doing stupid shit - getting battered, smoking, getting KOd, putting on weight in the summer, etc - it's not ridiculous to think this may have impacted his longevity.


I think that's a fair point to make but it is also a massive ask of a sportsman to do all that . Maybe its general lack of nouse on his part . The feeling that he could achieve a level because of his natural ability after taking his foot off the pedal for periods of time but not really appreciating that it gets harder and harder to do . His build does have a lot to do with it though and he hasn't really had too many injuries ( compare him to Sturridge ) in his career . He is still a very good player and is certainly no back number as far as EFC are concerned .
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Macca77 on February 16, 2018, 01:33:53 AM
What a superb picture

https://twitter.com/WayneRooney/status/964213150336868359
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 16, 2018, 02:05:17 AM
Awful name

Can't get past the letter 'C'.

Best keep the kid away from chicken sandwiches.....
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: brap2 on February 16, 2018, 03:10:12 AM
Happy to admit I didnít want him because he looked more finished than an empty bottle of Finish.

However, simply through just being a good quality player heís looked at times head and shoulder above the crap we put out. A genuinely world class player in his prime and I think we may get 2/3ds of a season out of him next year even.

As I said previously priority is back up / replacement for his job in the middle of the pitch - be a ball magnet who can pass forwards, would be great if they had legs as well but I doubt weíll get doucoure now spurs are after him.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Alanvideo on February 16, 2018, 03:21:25 AM
Happy to admit I didn’t want him because he looked more finished than an empty bottle of Finish.

However, simply through just being a good quality player he’s looked at times head and shoulder above the crap we put out. A genuinely world class player in his prime and I think we may get 2/3ds of a season out of him next year even.

As I said previously priority is back up / replacement for his job in the middle of the pitch - be a ball magnet who can pass forwards, would be great if they had legs as well but I doubt we’ll get doucoure now spurs are after him.
.....................as well as Rooney  we have Sigurdson and Walcott and those three are in a different class to the rest of the cloggers. I hope they can encourage the young lads like Holgate ,Kenny ,Davies ,DCL and Lookman when he returns  .
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Toddacelli on February 16, 2018, 02:13:04 PM
https://twitter.com/ColeenRoo/status/964014326704197632

It's a good job he's got a world famous dad - otherwise he'd have to spend the rest of his life explaining that his name isn't 'Cass McRooney'.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: boothill on February 16, 2018, 03:17:51 PM
No a lot of it comes from his behaviour off the field coupled with his lack of dedication to his fitness (drinking & smoking) which combined give the impression of someone not hugely intelligent
Johann cruyff drank, smoked and couldnt keep his little fella in his pants, would you look at him the same way as rooney ?
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: ajax_andy on February 16, 2018, 04:23:00 PM
Johann cruyff drank, smoked and couldnt keep his little fella in his pants, would you look at him the same way as rooney ?

Different playing field, today's footballers are or at least should be highly tuned athletes so you can't compare them to the old days
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: blue slug on February 16, 2018, 04:25:21 PM
They wanted to go with Big Mac but found that name was copyrighted

They could of used grand Mac up until a couple of weeks back 😉
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: AllyBlue14 on February 16, 2018, 04:58:10 PM
They've been horrendous at picking names, but look forward to seeing the brothers Rooney forming the spine of our team in 2035!
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Toddacelli on February 16, 2018, 07:39:21 PM
Not sure anyone gives a shit what Rooney's been doing in the last 3rd of his career either tbh

Dunno. Still won trophies dude.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: ajax_andy on February 17, 2018, 12:27:46 AM
Dunno. Still won trophies dude.

If his career ends at the end of next season I'd say the last third of his career no one will remember, he wasn't instrumental in winning anything at man u in the last 2-3 years of his career there, and it's unlikely he'll win anything with us.

It's a shame, he's no doubt had a fantastic career on paper but it's fizzled out badly
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: bogie on February 17, 2018, 12:49:25 AM
If his career ends at the end of next season I'd say the last third of his career no one will remember, he wasn't instrumental in winning anything at man u in the last 2-3 years of his career there, and it's unlikely he'll win anything with us.

It's a shame, he's no doubt had a fantastic career on paper but it's fizzled out badly

can't the be said about all top players
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: Cassius on February 17, 2018, 12:54:38 AM
Awful name

I beg to differ.
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: BlueForYou on February 17, 2018, 12:58:29 AM
Made from Clay
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: ajax_andy on February 17, 2018, 01:41:42 AM
can't the be said about all top players

Not many top players last third of their career starts at the ages of 26 or 27 though, that's the point surely?
Title: Re: Rooney
Post by: bogie on February 17, 2018, 02:27:35 AM
Not many top players last third of their career starts at the ages of 26 or 27 though, that's the point surely?

yeah sure and not many are top players at age 16