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Title: What am I missing...
Post by: Shogun on December 30, 2017, 11:31:58 PM
...with James McCarthy that every Everton manager seems to see in him?

Is he what we've been missing in recent matches? No.

Is he anything more than an average midfielder? No.

Can he be depended on? No.

Is he committed to Everton? No.

We have a better version of him at the club in Gana so why the fuck is he still here?
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: blargins on December 30, 2017, 11:36:24 PM
Can't believe he started. Players coming back from injuries, especially like the two years plus he was out for, need to be introduced on as subs, not started.

Hope we sell him to be honest. Absolute dog shit signing. We got one good season out of him and he's been shit since.
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: Faceatthefence on December 30, 2017, 11:40:49 PM
Shouldnt be near the side,bag him in cotton wool and hope he doesnt do a groin taking a piss.
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: Cuttyblue on December 30, 2017, 11:41:10 PM
Great through ball for the goal though  :bonk:

Him, Mirallas, Schneid, Besic, Klassen... half our midfielders are terrible!
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 30, 2017, 11:42:33 PM
Schneiderlin is more of a worry for me
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: Goaljira on December 31, 2017, 01:36:01 AM
Schneiderlin is more of a worry for me


He was piss poor again today.  I really really dont understand whats happened with him.
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: TheTone on December 31, 2017, 01:42:17 AM
He was piss poor again today.  I really really dont understand whats happened with him.

Mourinho must be laughing his tits off, he is a poor mans Hendo
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 31, 2017, 01:52:19 AM
James McCarthy's stats against Bournemouth:

Minutes - 45
Pass accuracy - 69%
Interceptions - 0
Clearances - 0
Tackles - 0
Shots blocked - 1
Aerial duels won - 3
Errors leading to a goal - 1
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 31, 2017, 01:53:14 AM
Im hoping its a case of putting him the shop window today.
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: Confucius on December 31, 2017, 01:59:57 AM
Im hoping its a case of putting him the shop window today.

A Walmart special. Looks like the real thing but it is so cheap so you happy you purchased it. But then it doesn't work 100% and breaks after the 2nd use. That's Mccarthy
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: Bigstickytoffee on December 31, 2017, 02:08:29 AM
We started with 9 men today. Morgan and McCarthy were a complete waste of space. What is big Sam thinking? Other players must be bloody cheesed off to not even get on the bench and see these 2 fucking it up at every opportunity.
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: howard1334 on December 31, 2017, 02:19:24 AM
Great through ball for the goal though  :bonk:

Him, Mirallas, Schneid, Besic, Klassen... half our midfielders are terrible!

Mirallas and Schneiderlin are not terrible. They have been poor, however. Re: Klassen, I don't think we know how good he is yet.
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on December 31, 2017, 02:27:21 AM
Im hoping its a case of putting him the shop window today.

yeah and with that performance would not even get a sale with 90% off
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 31, 2017, 02:47:15 AM
Hes a body and were short of bodies. Sam will want to see how well these players perform for him before deciding if he wants to keep or to sell them. Ideally hed need a pre-season to assess his squad.
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: Shropshire Blue on December 31, 2017, 02:49:30 AM
I think Sam took a gamble today that he could get something at Bournemouth with a 'weaker' side and have the stronger side for Monday.
To be fair with injuries (+ McCarthy and Bolasie out for so long) Gueye and Rooney not fully fit (?) DCL looking like he needs a rest plus any other things we don't know he really is playing with a squad just holding together with sticking plaster. Been lucky a couple of times in the unbeaten run and got away with it, today the luck deserted us and we probably got what we deserved.

Be glad when the transfer window is done as we can then assess on who we have signed and let go plus some players should be back AND match fit.
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: BlueBeagle on December 31, 2017, 03:47:50 AM
Re: Klassen, I don't think we know how bad he is yet.

Fixed for accuracy
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 31, 2017, 03:51:18 AM
I think Sam took a gamble today that he could get something at Bournemouth with a 'weaker' side and have the stronger side for Monday.
To be fair with injuries (+ McCarthy and Bolasie out for so long) Gueye and Rooney not fully fit (?) DCL looking like he needs a rest plus any other things we don't know he really is playing with a squad just holding together with sticking plaster. Been lucky a couple of times in the unbeaten run and got away with it, today the luck deserted us and we probably got what we deserved.

Be glad when the transfer window is done as we can then assess on who we have signed and let go plus some players should be back AND match fit.
We were bought out about 2 years ago and were still having to assess the squad...
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: Juanito on December 31, 2017, 01:18:43 PM
Every time I have seen Beni Baningine, I have been impressed with his positional sense, tackling and distribution. More so than McCarthy and Schneiderlin.  I would love to see us play something like;

           Gana  Beni
Bolasie   Sigurdsson  Vlasic
              Tosun

             
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: TSGun on December 31, 2017, 01:30:59 PM
McCarthy was pretty good, maybe even really good, when he first joined us.

It's a shame of his gradual decline.
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: therealdunc on December 31, 2017, 02:35:28 PM
He was piss poor again today.  I really really dont understand whats happened with him.

The problem is there is no one else in the squad.
The team is clearly fatigued but we dont have the quality alternatives to replace players like schniderlin who is meant to be one of the fittest players in the squad
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: Polledreng on December 31, 2017, 02:48:14 PM
McCarthy was pretty good, maybe even really good, when he first joined us.

It's a shame of his gradual decline.
Remember when we won 2-0 in Wolfsburg (and my son told me it was the Best Everton in his time as an Evertonian) McCarthy got injured and when he finaly returned he was never the same. Before that game he was amazing
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: JordanianEmbassy on December 31, 2017, 02:55:12 PM
Hes a body and were short of bodies. Sam will want to see how well these players perform for him before deciding if he wants to keep or to sell them. Ideally hed need a pre-season to assess his squad.

Yeah that must be it. Hence giving Sandro the second half against Chelsea. Now we've got as few points from his first few games it looks like he's giving everyone a chance to prove themselves.
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: ally2 on December 31, 2017, 05:45:46 PM
I don't know what's happened to him but once upon a time he was brilliant for us.
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: School of Science on December 31, 2017, 08:09:11 PM
Basically we have footballers who treat the ball like a hot potato, the money we have spent and as yet they do not seem to be able to keep possession and pass it around like most other teams in the PL.
I realize we have players coming back from long term injury and that they will have to be bedded carefully back into the team. But there seems to be no cohesion to our play at all, or no direction. We are desperate for a playmaker, having supposedly bought four in the summer, a Silva type player ( David or Bernardo )
We used to have two, Pienaar and Arteta during the Moyes years, what I'd give for them scouts /  players today. Because tbh for all the money we have spent, the players we have bought, we are a worse team than we were then, with no money.
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: dekko on January 02, 2018, 07:46:30 PM
Nobody mentioned but he shut up a lot of people here by showing some balls against Utd. He brought in a lot of energy, will to fight for balls and tackles. How a proper DM should be playing at all times.
Schneiderlin should be taking some notes.
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: wepull on January 08, 2018, 12:34:30 PM
Thought he was pretty good against the RS. He's a strong lad with a decent pace and it's not easy to go past him. He may not have the abilities with the ball on his feet but he's pretty good at his position. Just needs to be fit for a longer period of time.
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: gizzblue on January 08, 2018, 03:27:29 PM
Was doing the two Dm's job on his own for years ...he's on light duties working along side another dm...

aside Morgs obvs .
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: SANA_DR0 on January 08, 2018, 06:42:47 PM
...with James McCarthy that every Everton manager seems to see in him?

Is he what we've been missing in recent matches? No.  true no, but with say him and Gueye, if gives us to play a creative/box to box/ball playing midfielder, who i guess wont have to do much tracking / running as McCarthy and Gueye willmake up for it

Is he anything more than an average midfielder? No. again i agree, but if he is average, and Schneiderlin is a Rolls Royce... and i would say over the 4 years McCarthy has put in as good as displays as Morgan has the last year.. I know MS is a better passer, but that McCarthy lacks in passing is made up in determination and continually hunting the ball down.. in his sporadic appearances the last 2 seasons,, he seems to be better at going forwards/finishing too (he has improved)

Can he be depended on? No.agreed again.. lol, but if he can sort out his injuries.. and play consistently..i think we will have a player who is worth what we paid for.

Is he committed to Everton? No. i dont know about this, hopefully he is committed to us more than he is his international team, Every manager as you said wants to see what he is like.. so there must be more to him that we aren't seeing.

We have a better version of him at the club in Gana so why the fuck is he still here? true, i guess he is here cos, he is better than Besic, and Schneiderlin.. different to Davies, I'd rather have Baningime ahead of him, but it is what it is.. he can be better than we we have seen of him so far


sorry devils advocate.
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 11, 2018, 04:17:55 AM
Are you fucking messin

https://instagram.com/p/BdyNe_ehFJ2/

He needs to get of now before I chin him.
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: Brownie on January 11, 2018, 04:23:25 AM
Are you fucking messin

https://instagram.com/p/BdyNe_ehFJ2/

He needs to get of now before I chin him.

I can only see the picture. What's wrong with it?
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 11, 2018, 04:24:32 AM
I can only see the picture. What's wrong with it?

Whos in the picture?
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: Brownie on January 11, 2018, 04:40:12 AM
Whos in the picture?

Macca and some bint
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: Macca77 on January 11, 2018, 04:43:26 AM
Macca and some bint

That's not me

Oh its the other Macca
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 11, 2018, 05:03:54 AM
Struggling to see what's up with this picture if McCarthy?
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 11, 2018, 05:15:14 AM
😔

I was referring to him punching above his weight due to his partner having more stereotypical desirable and attractive features

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/xT5LMqcWK6p3BH5W80/giphy.gif)

Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: Brownie on January 11, 2018, 05:17:57 AM
😔

I was referring to him punching above his weight due to his partner having more stereotypical desirable and attractive features

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/xT5LMqcWK6p3BH5W80/giphy.gif)



Oh. TBH, the fake WAG look doesn't really do it for me. Those girls are like ten a penny now. Wouldn't say she's particularly out of his league
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 11, 2018, 05:24:54 AM
Oh. TBH, the fake WAG look doesn't really do it for me. Those girls are like ten a penny now. Wouldn't say she's particularly out of his league

That does seem a lot for your money, so to be perfectly honest I am skeptical. But what the hell, Ill take 10.

EDIT: on second thoughts, make it just one. Who am I trying to kid 😕
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: brap2 on January 11, 2018, 06:09:26 AM
Shes a solid 8.9 maybe more if shes scouse.
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: Brownie on January 11, 2018, 06:33:23 AM
That does seem a lot for your money, so to be perfectly honest I am skeptical. But what the hell, Ill take 10.

EDIT: on second thoughts, make it just one. Who am I trying to kid 😕

Go halves?
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: Jamokachi on January 11, 2018, 08:44:30 AM
I can only see the picture. What's wrong with it?

I think... jealousy.
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: Toddacelli on January 11, 2018, 01:34:45 PM
A Walmart special. Looks like the real thing but it is so cheap so you happy you purchased it. But then it doesn't work 100% and breaks after the 2nd use. That's Mccarthy

The. Worst. Attempt. To set something to the tune of 'That's Amore'. Ever.

Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 11, 2018, 03:10:16 PM
I think... jealousy.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HU2ebYVcGJwvonC/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: Macca77 on January 11, 2018, 03:20:37 PM
Giggling at the little lip wobble there
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: Bally on January 11, 2018, 05:45:41 PM
Oh. TBH, the fake WAG look doesn't really do it for me. Those girls are like ten a penny now. Wouldn't say she's particularly out of his league
This
I see better looking birds walking round Walton tbh
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: formerKHL on January 11, 2018, 05:51:21 PM
This
I see better looking birds walking round Walton tbh

where do you live bally i'm in lpool tomorrow....

might need something in Walton....ye never know..
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: Bally on January 11, 2018, 07:14:08 PM
Hahaha I live in Walton
If you're out in town though man that'll be even better for you
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: gizzblue on January 11, 2018, 07:32:45 PM
If she's got a southern Irish accent and a bit of a husky voice I'm all in .👍
Title: Re: What am I missing...
Post by: brap2 on January 11, 2018, 07:59:01 PM
I loved him first season, honestly thought he’d be a champs league player and Everton captain, but on the ball he is actually pants like there’s no denying it, he doesn’t want to go anywhere near it for longer than a second.

We need ball magnets in the middle of the pitch.