Post by: Robioto on January 06, 2018, 02:51:03 AM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/949381283192496129
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/01/05/blues-sign-striker-tosun
Cenk Tosun has vowed to bring goals to Everton and show fans “the kind of player I am” after the striker completed his move from Besiktas on a four-and-a-half-year contract to the end of June 2022.
The 26-year-old Turkey international, capped 25 times for his country, revealed that the eagerness shown by manager Sam Allardyce and by the Club to secure his arrival at Goodison proved persuasive in his decision-making.
Strong, two-footed and a formidable goalscorer in his time in Turkey’s Super Lig – in 96 appearances for Besiktas since the start of 2014/15 he has scored 41 goals, more than any other player in the division in that period – Tosun has been described by the Blues boss as “strong mentally with a good pedigree”.
And he is determined to show Evertonians that he can replicate his form in the Premier League, having spearheaded Besiktas’s charge to successive domestic titles and into the knockout stages of this season’s Champions League.
“It feels great to be an Everton player,” Tosun told evertontv. “I’m really happy to be here and happy that everything is done. I’m really excited to play for Everton as soon as possible. Everton is a great club with a big history and a big culture and I’m looking forward to showing the fans the kind of player I am.
“I bring my skills here and everybody is going to see what kind of player I am. I believe I can be a good player in the Premier League for Everton.
“The Premier League is a strong league, I know that, so my own physical strength will help me. Also I can use both feet the same and I believe I am a good striker in the box.
“I’m really looking forward to training with my teammates and getting to know them and, of course, I want to play as soon as possible. The Tottenham game will be the first game I am available for and I’m very excited about it already.
“I’m really excited to work with my new teammates because Everton has really, really big names, big players. I’m excited to play with them and to learn from them as well, players like Wayne Rooney and the very good creative players we have here, too. They can help me score goals.
“I know the guys as I’ve always watched Everton’s games from Turkey, so I know a bit about the team already. I hope they can make a lot of assists for me!”
Tosun joined Besiktas in the summer of 2014 from fellow Turkish side Gaziantepspor where he had forged a reputation as one of his country’s most lethal forwards.
Tosun scored 20 league goals last season as Besiktas retained their Super Lig crown and scored a contender for Champions League goal of the season with a brilliant bicycle-kick finish past Benfica goalkeeper Ederson.
He added: “The manager and the Club really wanted me very much and that is why I am here.
“Sam Allardyce was a big part of my decision. He said he really wanted me here and to feel that, of course, is another big reason to come to Everton.”
Allardyce made Tosun his No.1 target in January and he is pleased that the deal has been sealed early in the transfer window.
“This lad looks like he is strong mentally and has a good pedigree,” said the Blues manager.
“He is Turkey’s No.1 striker and has scored goals in the Champions League and the Turkish League but he is desperate to play here in the Premier League.
“He is an all-rounder, with good movement. He is two-footed, perhaps not the biggest but he’s very efficient in the air and in the box he gets good space to get his head on the ball.
“We looked at the qualities of the player, his talent and goalscoring, and his resilience, too. I do not think you can look any more than we have done and, for the price, he is the best in Europe at the moment.”
Tosun arrives at Everton one week after scoring on his farewell Besiktas appearance in a Turkish Cup tie – and after finding the net the eight times in 12 league starts this season.
He scored on his Besiktas debut in 2014 – a 1-0 victory over Mersin IY – and struck his first European goal in the same year to propel his side to a 1-0 Europa League win over Tottenham Hotspur.
Germany-born Tosun was snapped up by hometown club Eintracht Frankfurt aged five. He was a star of the Bundesliga club’s youth ranks, scoring 20 goals in 40 matches for Eintracht’s Under-19s.
But after making one first-team appearance for the German side he was prised to Turkey by Gaziantepspor where he made a lightning start, scoring six goals in his first six matches.
He ultimately scored 39 goals in 92 starts for the mid-table side and won his first Turkey cap in a World Cup qualifying match against Holland in October 2013.
Tosun represented Germany at every age group level from Under-16 to Under-21 – scoring in a 2-0 victory over England on one of his two Under-21 appearances – before pledging his allegiance to Turkey, the birthplace of both his parents.
He represented his country at the 2016 European Championship and, with eight goals from his 25 appearances, is Turkey’s first-choice striker.
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 06, 2018, 02:55:33 AM
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Post by: Shogun on January 06, 2018, 03:54:20 AM
Bit gutted for the lad that he's give up a CL tie against Bayern Munich for this.
Post by: MmmblueBernard on January 06, 2018, 04:02:27 AM
Our media team is a fucking disgrace
Talk about shooting your load too early...
Post by: kramer0 on January 06, 2018, 04:03:06 AM
We need to know the stuff that really matters. Without having to look at pictures or videos.
Edit: I did not find his shirt number in the video. :(
Post by: Lincs Toffee on January 06, 2018, 04:06:55 AM
Post by: Normm on January 06, 2018, 05:21:50 AM
It was a disappointing result today, but not a disappointing performance!
Now, let's see how high we can climb in the league.
Onwards and upwards from here on!
Post by: Ravardo on January 06, 2018, 06:34:36 AM
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Post by: Shogun on January 06, 2018, 07:00:49 AM
One of his goals in the champions league http://www.thickaccent.com/2018/01/06/video-everton-fans-need-to-see-this-stunning-goal-from-soon-to-be-new-signing-cenk-tosun/
Just like watching Arouna Kone
Post by: Ravardo on January 06, 2018, 07:10:17 AM
Post by: TheRam on January 06, 2018, 07:13:28 AM
What a club.
Post by: blueski on January 06, 2018, 07:30:17 AM
Post by: gizzblue on January 06, 2018, 07:45:56 AM
hope this lad's got the right mindset because there's going to be a bit of pressure on him to perform right out of the gateWhat pressure the season is pretty much over for us ....ease him in nice and softly.
Post by: Shogun on January 06, 2018, 08:46:26 AM
Except cenks goal ratio is like a goal every other game and kones is goal every other season
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/04/16/15/333E364600000578-0-image-a-1_1460818461396.jpg)
Post by: Tony Clifton on January 06, 2018, 08:46:39 AM
Post by: Tony Clifton on January 06, 2018, 08:47:59 AM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/04/16/15/333E364600000578-0-image-a-1_1460818461396.jpg)
Ah, Cuco there in Southampton colours. Those were the days.
Post by: blueToffee on January 06, 2018, 10:02:25 AM
hope this lad's got the right mindset because there's going to be a bit of pressure on him to perform right out of the gate
Very little pressure I'd say. Nobody has really staked any sort of claim to be the main striker, we're out of the running of every competition so while I hope he is super impressive from the get go, he can get away with a decent handful of goals, showing some good hold up play...basically showing signs of being a competent PL striker.
Plus until we get the service right, he has a little leeway from the start. He's not going to score if we can't create chances for him. These are the problems our other strikers have been dealing with too. The hope would have to be that he'd be able to hold the ball up better and bring others into the game more so in turn we'd create more chances. If we can get an attack minded LB and perhaps a forward thinking CM/AM we may find some balance and may yet play some decent football between now and the end of the season.
This is part one of at least a three part puzzle in the short term.
Post by: bluenuck on January 06, 2018, 01:52:23 PM
What pressure the season is pretty much over for us ....ease him in nice and softly.
Lol. Have you read this forum, or Twitter lately?? If he has one bad game he'll be tossed aside and told to get bent. It's fuckin ridiculous right now.
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 06, 2018, 02:49:55 PM
Welcome to the Blues, Cenk!
It was a disappointing result today, but not a disappointing performance!
Now, let's see how high we can climb in the league.
Onwards and upwards from here on!
9th .
Post by: Mayor Farnum on January 06, 2018, 03:01:05 PM
What pressure the season is pretty much over for us ....ease him in nice and softly.
We're known for our patience if nothing else.
Post by: sam of the south on January 06, 2018, 03:34:30 PM
Still can't get over them announcing this at half time during a Derby.
What a club.
Haha, yeah.
Totally inexplicable.
Everton.
Post by: everton1952 on January 06, 2018, 05:15:05 PM
We're known for our patience if nothing else.Brilliant!
Post by: gizzblue on January 06, 2018, 05:21:14 PM
We're known for our patience if nothing else.It's fair enough when trying to challenge anything ,but we're challenging fuck fuck all now 👍
Post by: Macca77 on January 06, 2018, 05:31:18 PM
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Post by: ally2 on January 06, 2018, 05:47:00 PM
....ease him in nice and softly.
Ewww
Post by: gizzblue on January 06, 2018, 05:50:04 PM
EwwwChild 😅
Post by: MmmblueBernard on January 06, 2018, 06:00:54 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/949598282682109952
Bargain.
Post by: Normm on January 06, 2018, 06:04:48 PM
Cenk Tosun sings:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHYqYfnEhcQ
The Voice of Turkey, no less! He can also sing with both feet. I think he is going to be a very popular guy. - Just so long as he doesn't sing the blues, but sings FOR the blues - with his feet!
Post by: Macca77 on January 06, 2018, 06:21:59 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/949598282682109952
Excellent deal that
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 06, 2018, 06:29:25 PM
Excellent deal thatIs every comment on that off a Liverpool "fan"
Post by: sam of the south on January 06, 2018, 07:41:32 PM
Bargain.
Reserving judgement :wag:
;)
Post by: brap2 on January 06, 2018, 08:06:57 PM
Post by: mikey_blue on January 06, 2018, 08:15:36 PM
Still can't get over them announcing this at half time during a Derby.
What a club.
At least we're announcing players we've actually signed. No more Riquelme's. That's something, at least.
Post by: Lxxx on January 06, 2018, 09:02:06 PM
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Post by: Escla on January 06, 2018, 10:45:59 PM
Why would they reveal this signing when they did? I really dont get the logic behind it
Who really gives a shit, what does it matter ?
Post by: School of Science on January 06, 2018, 10:48:55 PM
Who really gives a shit, what does it matter ?
Okay bad timing get over it, he's signed done and dusted, agree Sith Escala.
Post by: Tinga on January 06, 2018, 10:51:25 PM
Why would they reveal this signing when they did? I really dont get the logic behind it
They knew we were going to get beat and couldn't be arsed seeing anything Everton after the game so they did it to get it out the way.
I actually think this is why.
Post by: Escla on January 06, 2018, 10:55:30 PM
They knew we were going to get beat and couldn't be arsed seeing anything Everton after the game so they did it to get it out the way.
I actually think this is why.
You cannot be serious, surely not ?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 06, 2018, 11:02:58 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/949598282682109952
If you compare that to the money we spent in the summer, he'd be soemthing like our fifth biggest signing (cost wise), absolute Bargain.
Post by: Tinga on January 06, 2018, 11:03:49 PM
You cannot be serious, surely not ?
It actually makes sense when you think about it. The people on Twitter were obviously thinking 'people wont be arsed about this mediocre signing if we get beat' So they said it whilst there was still a glimmer of hope left in the derby.
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Post by: Heisenberg on January 06, 2018, 11:06:36 PM
Who really gives a shit, what does it matter ?
Signing players is probably the only excitement you get as a football fan, hope and what not. More so when you're not going to challenge and win things. it's just weird
Post by: Crackling on January 07, 2018, 12:23:29 AM
Why would they reveal this signing when they did? I really dont get the logic behind itOn the podcast that someone kindly linked to earlier in the thread, the Turkish journo mentioned about besikas fans still following their players when they had left the club and that we would "gain" 1.5m Turkish followers. I imagine it would be something to do with the timing in Turkey for them then, as there's no other reasonable explanation.
It doesn't really matter though.
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 07, 2018, 12:40:51 AM
On the podcast that someone kindly linked to earlier in the thread, the Turkish journo mentioned about besikas fans still following their players when they had left the club and that we would "gain" 1.5m Turkish followers. I imagine it would be something to do with the timing in Turkey for them then, as there's no other reasonable explanation.Ht in our games was 850
It doesn't really matter though.
Thats 1150 in Turkey
A little midnight treat??
Post by: Crackling on January 07, 2018, 12:42:10 AM
Ht in our games was 850Crossed my mind, but couldn't be arsed checking
Thats 1150 in Turkey
A little midnight treat??
Post by: Macca77 on January 07, 2018, 01:56:59 AM
https://twitter.com/lebigmc5times/status/949687803159425024
Post by: toffee_scot on January 07, 2018, 04:09:02 AM
Post by: Shogun on January 07, 2018, 04:34:44 AM
Doesn’t look the sort who’s going to run all day like DCL or bring other players into play much but seems to come alive when the ball does get around to him. Capable of holding up the ball to a basic level, composed in the box and always on the move when it does get near him.
Looks like we’ve got another penalty taker as well.
Even with Baines, Sigurdsson, Rooney, Klaassen and now Tosun, we’ll probably lose a potential shootout knowing Everton.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on January 07, 2018, 04:43:00 AM
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Post by: dchans on January 07, 2018, 03:37:09 PM
Looks promising
Post by: eugene on January 07, 2018, 04:09:31 PM
Some very impressive goals there Sandro, this bloke might just be the real dealNot being negative lads but let’s reserve judgement for the minute, I seem to remember great goals from Sandro on utube
Post by: mikey_blue on January 07, 2018, 05:58:19 PM
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 07, 2018, 10:07:58 PM
Jenk to zun if your gonna say it
Cenk tosun if your gonna type it
Post by: JordanianEmbassy on January 07, 2018, 10:36:23 PM
Anyone care to talk some sense into me?
Post by: Macca77 on January 07, 2018, 10:40:05 PM
Post by: eugene on January 07, 2018, 10:41:19 PM
I have to admit I'm not approaching this with any patience. If he's not great immediately I'm gonna throw my toys out of the pram. I want goals and I want them now.Is that Moshiri
Anyone care to talk some sense into me?
Post by: Bluedylan on January 07, 2018, 10:46:16 PM
Post by: Shogun on January 07, 2018, 10:53:26 PM
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/evertons-cenk-tosun-reveals-how-14123497
Jenk to zun if your gonna say it
Cenk tosun if your gonna type it
Or useless Turkish twat as he’ll be known in March.
Post by: Mayor Farnum on January 07, 2018, 10:57:32 PM
Post by: Everton Mint on January 07, 2018, 11:16:40 PM
Cenk appears a bright lad and should up the dressing room IQ, especially now that Barkley's gone. :snigger:
Post by: everton1952 on January 07, 2018, 11:28:55 PM
I have to admit I'm not approaching this with any patience. If he's not great immediately I'm gonna throw my toys out of the pram. I want goals and I want them now.No
Anyone care to talk some sense into me?
Post by: eugene on January 07, 2018, 11:48:42 PM
Came across very well so far in interviews and social media. Speaks good English and says all the right things.So let’s call him Jenksy and see how we get on
Cenk appears a bright lad and should up the dressing room IQ, especially now that Barkley's gone. :snigger:
Post by: Shropshire Blue on January 08, 2018, 12:17:01 AM
Came across very well so far in interviews and social media. Speaks good English and says all the right things.Must give him time to settle in and acquire the scouse accent.
Cenk appears a bright lad and should up the dressing room IQ, especially now that Barkley's gone. :snigger:
Post by: Simon Paul on January 08, 2018, 12:21:52 AM
Post by: Waltzer on January 08, 2018, 12:34:33 AM
Will give him the seemingly mandatory 38 games before making up my mind. Full games though, not combined minutes on the pitch.
Id like to think this is an option but I think he'll be thrown in at the deep end and its either hit the ground running or you dont make it as we'll sign someone else.
Post by: blueToffee on January 08, 2018, 01:32:29 AM
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Post by: dangermouse on January 09, 2018, 06:07:31 PM
Massively dependent on service. Need to get him the ball into feet as much as possible, ideally with support. If we can do that, then hopefully we can get a proper idea of him as a player over the next few weeks. Wouldn't expect too much against Spurs.
Sam best change his tactics up a bit then..... im growing tired of the very predictable attacks down the right ending up with a wayward cross from Holgate :(
Post by: Everton Mint on January 12, 2018, 10:05:44 PM
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Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 12, 2018, 10:54:27 PM
Slightly concerened with the pictures today, it's almost like it's the first time he has trained with us
Do you mean because it's the first time we've seen pics of him training or he looks poor/unfit in some way?
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 12, 2018, 11:03:17 PM
They've done a big song and dance about it today on snap chat and instagram, like it's the first time
Prob reading too much into it
Post by: Simon Paul on January 13, 2018, 12:32:07 AM
He touches the ball once
Post by: blargins on January 13, 2018, 12:33:01 AM
Official facebook page put out a video of him training today
He touches the ball once
He's settled in quicker than I thought he would then.
Post by: Ross on January 13, 2018, 12:42:53 AM
Official facebook page put out a video of him training today
He touches the ball once
Was he training 40 yards away from the rest of the team?
Post by: gizzblue on January 13, 2018, 01:03:14 AM
Was he training 40 yards away from the rest of the team?That's where Sam needs a striker most 😅😅
Post by: eugene on January 13, 2018, 01:07:19 AM
They've done a big song and dance about it today on snap chat and instagram, like it's the first timeAnd why not song and dance him he is a gem even in my lifetime
Prob reading too much into it
Post by: Macca77 on January 13, 2018, 01:40:21 AM
Official facebook page put out a video of him training today
He touches the ball once
But what a touch it was though, magnificent
Post by: brap2 on January 13, 2018, 01:41:42 AM
They've done a big song and dance about it today on snap chat and instagram, like it's the first time
Prob reading too much into it
It’s not a bad shout. These training pics are usually regular I thought.
Post by: Macca77 on January 13, 2018, 01:41:52 AM
Post by: brap2 on January 13, 2018, 01:44:26 AM
Post by: eugene on January 13, 2018, 01:45:29 AM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/951813112163860480Good luck Cenk welcome x do you recon he paints his hair on
Post by: JordanianEmbassy on January 13, 2018, 01:48:08 AM
Official facebook page put out a video of him training today
He touches the ball once
Did he score?
If not sell him.
Post by: Macca77 on January 13, 2018, 01:50:38 AM
I can moan all I like he’s still getting money lashed on him tomorrow to bag
Way ahead of you there, couple of quid on him to score first 11/1 with paddypower, watch him start on the bench
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 13, 2018, 01:57:50 AM
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 13, 2018, 01:58:44 AM
Way ahead of you there, couple of quid on him to score first 11/1 with paddypower, watch him start on the bench
You’ve had yourself off there Maccapakka.
Post by: Macca77 on January 13, 2018, 02:06:52 AM
You’ve had yourself off there Maccapakka.
Nah im loaded so it matters not
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 13, 2018, 02:08:36 AM
Nah im loaded so it matters not
I was thinking pride and masculinity, but that’s cool. Congrats on all the cash, man 👍
Post by: Macca77 on January 13, 2018, 02:12:03 AM
I was thinking pride and masculinity, but that’s cool. Congrats on all the cash, man 👍
You can't take it with you can you, so im lashing my life savings on it, all £3.37 of it
Post by: velimski on January 13, 2018, 02:12:09 AM
Post by: GLewis on January 13, 2018, 02:14:54 AM
So is he a Senk, Chenk or a Kenk?
Jenk
Post by: irishtoffee on January 13, 2018, 03:15:11 AM
JenkI thought it was yenk, unless you meant your J to be pronounced like the j in yagielka
Post by: Confucius on January 13, 2018, 05:28:26 AM
Official facebook page put out a video of him training today
He touches the ball once
Started in midfield then.
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 14, 2018, 01:47:03 AM
Wins every header.
You can see already he’s light years ahead of DCL or Niasse.
Post by: GLewis on January 14, 2018, 01:59:04 AM
Thought he looked decent given it was his first game in the PL and what he has to work with.
Wins every header.
You can see already he’s light years ahead of DCL or Niasse.
Yeah I thought it was promising.
Looks like he doesn’t mind the physical side of things (which someone like Jelavic didn’t) and good movement across the line which should be useful in home games (rather than someone who just stands next to CBs).
Post by: blueToffee on January 14, 2018, 01:59:20 AM
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Post by: NomadskiEFC on January 14, 2018, 02:16:58 AM
Also, he probably checking the quality of his Latin at the moment.
Post by: mikey_blue on January 14, 2018, 02:26:51 AM
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Post by: Risky on January 14, 2018, 04:04:31 AM
Post by: Simon Paul on January 14, 2018, 04:06:13 AM
Be good to see how he does if he ever gets a chance to shoot
Post by: brap2 on January 14, 2018, 07:28:32 AM
Post by: Ramjam on January 14, 2018, 07:41:22 AM
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 14, 2018, 08:12:13 AM
if he ever gets a chance to shoot
Don't be fuckin ridiculous!!!
Post by: Martip on January 21, 2018, 07:15:06 PM
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 21, 2018, 07:27:52 PM
How did he play yesterday anyone ? Did he offer any threat?No
He had about one pass to his feet all game. Nothing in behind, can't really remember him touching the ball in their box either
Post by: Martip on January 21, 2018, 07:31:59 PM
NoSo didn't have the chance to influence the game due to the dross behind him ?
He had about one pass to his feet all game. Nothing in behind, can't really remember him touching the ball in their box either
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 21, 2018, 07:33:41 PM
So didn't have the chance to influence the game due to the dross behind him ?Yeah pretty much
Post by: TheTone on February 02, 2018, 09:43:14 PM
Post by: UnsyisaRhino on February 02, 2018, 10:11:45 PM
looks like we've been mugged off on this one
Based on what?
Post by: gizzblue on February 02, 2018, 10:20:16 PM
With any luck .
Post by: Macca77 on February 02, 2018, 10:22:13 PM
Sam must be saving him for his big weekend at the Gunners .
With any luck .
Well based on the rumoured line up, he isn't
Post by: civemark on February 02, 2018, 10:23:44 PM
There are articles in german that can be easily translated with google translate.
Post by: TheTone on February 02, 2018, 11:05:38 PM
Based on what?
based on Sams and Walshies 'player profile analysis software' being only compatible on Windows 95
Post by: Dunnaz on February 02, 2018, 11:10:03 PM
The reason Eintracht Frankfurt sold him was due to his attitude.I never comment and just read around here but I’m calling this out for BS. It was 7 years ago and he was 19. The fact so many Turks are interested in Everton now speaks volumes of the esteem he’s held in by Beşiktaş fans - who he played for for a lot longer than Eintracht.
There are articles in german that can be easily translated with google translate.
He may well be a dud, but this claim is utter bullshit. According to Beşiktaş fans nobody worked harder.
Post by: gizzblue on February 03, 2018, 01:15:48 AM
Well based on the rumoured line up, he isn'tJust hope it's bullshit .
Post by: Cozzie on February 03, 2018, 01:36:26 AM
You cant blame his performance against West Brom as he may as well have not been playing the way we played.
Id have preferred him to have started over Niasse like but we should not be writing him off after 1 and a half games.
Post by: Ell Capitan on February 03, 2018, 02:25:32 AM
I never comment and just read around here but I’m calling this out for BS. It was 7 years ago and he was 19. The fact so many Turks are interested in Everton now speaks volumes of the esteem he’s held in by Beşiktaş fans - who he played for for a lot longer than Eintracht.
He may well be a dud, but this claim is utter bullshit. According to Beşiktaş fans nobody worked harder.
"so many Turks" is a bunch of fake twitter bots that were deployed by Besiktas to generate excitement among the Everton fanbase for the proposed transfer.
When you consider the money at stake and the very low cost these days of deploying fake accounts on social media, it's almost more surprising that this kind of tactic hasn't been adopted sooner.
What do you reckon @Ridge (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=60), you with me on this one?
Post by: brap2 on February 03, 2018, 04:40:48 AM
"so many Turks" is a bunch of fake twitter bots that were deployed by Besiktas to generate excitement among the Everton fanbase for the proposed transfer.
When you consider the money at stake and the very low cost these days of deploying fake accounts on social media, it's almost more surprising that this kind of tactic hasn't been adopted sooner.
What do you reckon @Ridge (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=60), you with me on this one?
Really big if true.
Post by: Ross on February 03, 2018, 04:45:45 AM
"so many Turks" is a bunch of fake twitter bots that were deployed by Besiktas to generate excitement among the Everton fanbase for the proposed transfer.
When you consider the money at stake and the very low cost these days of deploying fake accounts on social media, it's almost more surprising that this kind of tactic hasn't been adopted sooner.
What do you reckon @Ridge (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=60), you with me on this one?
...cheaper than a Russian player of the season trophy (the con not the player)
Post by: Ridge on February 03, 2018, 06:50:33 AM
"so many Turks" is a bunch of fake twitter bots that were deployed by Besiktas to generate excitement among the Everton fanbase for the proposed transfer.
When you consider the money at stake and the very low cost these days of deploying fake accounts on social media, it's almost more surprising that this kind of tactic hasn't been adopted sooner.
What do you reckon @Ridge (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=60), you with me on this one?
Turkish player of the year? ;)
In Cenk's case, it seemed organic enough, there wasn't much contention. When people try to force or change a narrative, you'll normally find disputes, or people in the know whistleblowing, calling the information into question. Not seen anyone doubting Cenk was a quality, effective and respected forward in Turkey. But do think the opposition fans thanking the potential buying club would be a fairly easy one to push.
When clubs are negotiating price, selling clubs put out rumours to try and increase price, if a buying club can devalue, they'll probably do that. Can't remember too many players being bought because of fans, but it could certainly grease any friction if you caught a bite. When there is less knowledge, the variables are more malleable.
From his profile and watching him run about a bit, I'd be expecting him to be someone in a Costa type mould, strong, abrasive, making space for others, decent finisher, aerial threat etc. Presume the idea would be to get Sigurdsson to put the ball on his head.
Post by: Toffee1 on February 06, 2018, 05:34:52 PM
Hope he starts on Saturday, we won't see what he can do with little cameos from the bench.
Post by: brap2 on February 08, 2018, 04:28:44 PM
Post by: benny on February 08, 2018, 08:59:32 PM
Yeah I’d like to see him start, be nice if Theo could lay a couple on for him, don’t think I’ve seen him have a chance to shoot yet.it all depends on the so called manager picking him first i hope he does though :hail:
Post by: Confucius on February 09, 2018, 06:41:57 AM
Yeah I'd like to see him start, be nice if Theo could lay a couple on for him, don't think I've seen him have a chance to shoot yet.
Don't hold your breath him ever having a shot mate while Allardyce is in charge. He doesn't believe in scoring goals.
Post by: brap2 on March 10, 2018, 11:25:10 PM
Post by: TheRam on March 10, 2018, 11:28:39 PM
Post by: Brownie on March 10, 2018, 11:42:33 PM
He's boss.
He's got a good touch for a big lad
Post by: Macca77 on March 10, 2018, 11:44:30 PM
Post by: Shogun on March 10, 2018, 11:45:24 PM
Post by: BlueForYou on March 10, 2018, 11:52:30 PM
Post by: GLewis on March 10, 2018, 11:54:06 PM
He's boss.
Yeah I like him.
Gets involved in the game, seems to have a good appreciation of general play etc.
It’s hard physically when you come from a top team in a lower league.
You come from somewhere that’s less physically demanding anyway and where your team has generally had most of the ball, to a league where because teams generally just play the ball back up the pitch if there’s any sort of pressure, there’s always something going on which means lots more running where there’s not much benefit at the end of it.
Anyway...
Love a shot in off the underside of the bar.
Post by: Macca77 on March 11, 2018, 12:22:54 AM
Post by: Bally on March 11, 2018, 12:32:20 AM
Post by: Cozzie on March 11, 2018, 12:34:59 AM
Better manager and a proper pre season under his belt reckon he will be class next season.
Post by: brap2 on March 11, 2018, 12:53:09 AM
Yeah I like him.
Gets involved in the game, seems to have a good appreciation of general play etc.
It’s hard physically when you come from a top team in a lower league.
You come from somewhere that’s less physically demanding anyway and where your team has generally had most of the ball, to a league where because teams generally just play the ball back up the pitch if there’s any sort of pressure, there’s always something going on which means lots more running where there’s not much benefit at the end of it.
Anyway...
Love a shot in off the underside of the bar.
Most prem ready striker at the club by a mile.
One of his strengths in turkey was his physicality so it’s going to be hard adjusting to defenders who can compete better - showed some great hold up today though.
And of course give him a view at goal and he’s bagged which is a great sign.
Post by: Paddockoldie on March 11, 2018, 12:55:32 AM
Post by: TheTone on March 11, 2018, 01:49:28 AM
Touch of the Jelavics about him
I'm a moody cunt though when it comes to strikers
Encouraging to see him being praised by lids who go the game though, im not seeing the same sat at home on me arse
Post by: gizzblue on March 11, 2018, 01:58:25 AM
Liked his back to goal play strong and gives the defence a worry ...chased a few lost causes too .
Post by: BlueForYou on March 11, 2018, 02:05:01 AM
Post by: Cuttyblue on March 11, 2018, 02:05:41 AM
Regardless, 2 in 2 might spark some form.
Post by: BlueForYou on March 11, 2018, 02:06:28 AM
Post by: Silas on March 11, 2018, 02:11:22 AM
Post by: Shogun on March 11, 2018, 02:35:13 AM
Post by: Bigstickytoffee on March 11, 2018, 02:47:37 AM
Jury's still out. Really nice finish, but other than that didn't offer much.
Regardless, 2 in 2 might spark some form.
Lukaku often did bugger all but score........
Post by: Escla on March 11, 2018, 02:56:50 AM
Not having him at all
Touch of the Jelavics about him
I'm a moody cunt though when it comes to strikers
Encouraging to see him being praised by lids who go the game though, im not seeing the same sat at home on me arse
You hit the nail on the head and you are right, the tv cameras do not show you his running off the ball, he is better than the coverage suggests.
Post by: Mayor Farnum on March 11, 2018, 03:45:33 AM
Koeman could have done with him
And probably could have got him if he'd been arsed trying.
Post by: Bally on March 11, 2018, 03:54:03 AM
Walcott is a different class and I hope his injury isn't to serious
Post by: Cuttyblue on March 11, 2018, 03:58:20 AM
Lukaku often did bugger all but score........
True, but I'd be blown away if he contributes anywhere near Lukaku's level and I'm sure you would agree.
He doesn't seem to have much pace and I'm not sure he has the strength to push defenders aside.... but I'm with you, goals are what he'll be judged on.
Post by: Lxxx on March 11, 2018, 04:48:36 AM
He’s a decent grafter who’ll be a steady option to play off and around. Helps he knows where the goal is too.
Post by: Cereal Killer on March 11, 2018, 08:06:58 AM
True, but I'd be blown away if he contributes anywhere near Lukaku's level and I'm sure you would agree.
He doesn't seem to have much pace and I'm not sure he has the strength to push defenders aside.... but I'm with you, goals are what he'll be judged on.
Breaking news.... £27m striker not as good as £75m striker.... shock horror
Post by: BlueMaquis on March 11, 2018, 10:43:15 AM
Post by: Juanito on March 11, 2018, 12:04:38 PM
Lukaku often did bugger all but score........
Not true. His pace alone would have defenders sitting deep, thus midfield has to sit a little deeper. Changed the whole outlook of our side for opposing teams when he left, hence the deficit we see now.
Post by: Juanito on March 11, 2018, 12:08:55 PM
I reckon he'll turn out to be better than Lukaku. That's my guess.
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No chance. Lukaku is 2 years younger and light years ahead.
Post by: Goaljira on March 11, 2018, 01:12:41 PM
Post by: dangermouse on March 11, 2018, 01:50:35 PM
And probably could have got him if he'd been arsed trying.
He was clearly at the bottom of our very long list of potential replacements for Lukaku.
Was that really Koemans fault?
Post by: Polledreng on March 11, 2018, 02:02:58 PM
I know Delefeou isn’t a defender but the Way Tosun knocked him of the Ball injuring him in the same process shows he has plenty of strength Not in the Lukaku mould perhaps. But still plenty of strenght. I like what I see.
He doesn't seem to have much pace and I'm not sure he has the strength to push defenders aside....
Post by: SANA_DR0 on March 11, 2018, 10:55:50 PM
Breaking news.... £27m striker not as good as £75m striker.... shock horror
i think he will be better than what Lukaku has been for us, we just need to change from having a striker 40 yards away from the rest of the players.. as Tosun can't do that role.
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 11, 2018, 11:26:38 PM
i think he will be better than what Lukaku has been for us, we just need to change from having a striker 40 yards away from the rest of the players.. as Tosun can't do that role.No chance
And that's not a dig at tosun.... I like him
Post by: Rodenplav64 on March 11, 2018, 11:34:03 PM
Post by: Waltzer on March 12, 2018, 12:05:50 AM
Post by: gizzblue on March 12, 2018, 12:30:37 AM
No need for pace if you know how to find space .Teddy Sherringham would agree completely ...my gran was quicker but she wasn't really a striker. ..more of a centre mid.
Tosun has plenty of other attributes and lukaku was our only out ball 9 times out of ten and all attacks under Koeman and Martinez went through him so his stats were flattering in reality and his goal record this year won't get close imho.
Post by: Mayor Farnum on March 12, 2018, 12:36:17 AM
He was clearly at the bottom of our very long list of potential replacements for Lukaku.
Was that really Koemans fault?
Well he's the one that paid with his job so maybe he should have been more insistent.
Post by: JordanianEmbassy on March 12, 2018, 01:36:08 AM
Unless I'm missing something Lukaku was the best striker I can remember at Everton since Lineker, it'll be a damn good player and an amazing slice of luck for us to get anyone near this quality. Just appreciate tosun for what he is, but he's not anywhere near the same league as lukaku at this moment in time and I doubt he ever will be but that doesn't mean he's bad.
For me, no way Lukaku was as good as Kevin Campbell before the bad injury he got. Campbells finishing was just as good, he was just as strong, and his touch, understanding of the game, movement off the ball and ability to bring others into play was much better than Roms. His attitude was also much better, which is important - I think Roms attitude was slightly poisonous to team spirit at times.
Kev wasn't quite the same after he came back from that injury, and the fact that he played for us for a good few years after that has clouded peoples memory of how good he was.
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on March 12, 2018, 01:39:48 AM
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 12, 2018, 03:25:50 AM
Kevin Campbell better than lukaku?
Really?
Tosun is gonna be a solid player for us, he's better than what we had
Post by: nsno on March 12, 2018, 04:42:13 AM
WaitTotally agree with that. However what Campbell did when we signed him on loan was nothing short of miraculous. He has to be up there with our greatest centre forwards for that alone. Saved us that season, saved my sanity as well.
Kevin Campbell better than lukaku?
Really?
Tosun is gonna be a solid player for us, he's better than what we had
Post by: Cuttyblue on March 12, 2018, 04:49:54 AM
Some mad shouts on here, he's had 2 decent games in a row.
That;s all I am trying to say as well. Much too early to tell if he's going to be our guy leading the line for the next 3 years...
Post by: Bluedylan on March 12, 2018, 04:51:49 AM
That's got to be one of the maddest shouts on here for a while. Comparable with thinking Scott Brown was the answer to our problems.
Post by: Ramjam on March 12, 2018, 04:54:32 AM
Teddy Sherringham would agree completely ...my gran was quicker but she wasn't really a striker. ..more of a centre mid.I love your sarcasm, pmsl 🤣🤣🤣
Tosun has plenty of other attributes and lukaku was our only out ball 9 times out of ten and all attacks under Koeman and Martinez went through him so his stats were flattering in reality and his goal record this year won't get close imho.
Post by: gizzblue on March 12, 2018, 05:03:01 AM
I love your sarcasm, pmsl 🤣🤣🤣Abut me nan. ..it's true .
Post by: Jamokachi on March 12, 2018, 06:49:48 AM
his stats were flattering in reality and his goal record this year won't get close imho.
He's 3 goals away from his tally from last season. I'm going to predict he'll do more than "come close".
Your constant disingenuous view of Lukaku borders on bitterness.
Post by: JordanianEmbassy on March 12, 2018, 01:26:24 PM
Haha. Someone said Kevin Campbell is better than Romelu Lukaku.
That's got to be one of the maddest shouts on here for a while. Comparable with thinking Scott Brown was the answer to our problems.
If you think Rom is slightly better then fair enough, if you think its mad then you are very confused.
Post by: School of Science on March 12, 2018, 02:09:06 PM
Post by: Ell Capitan on March 12, 2018, 02:32:31 PM
Post by: brap2 on March 12, 2018, 03:23:46 PM
Embarrassing this.
Don’t understand why people make some
of the shouts you see in this thread. Tosun > Lukaku / Campbell > Lukaku.
It is possible to like a player without launching into hyperbole.
Post by: Lxxx on March 12, 2018, 03:55:08 PM
We'll get a better view if he plays every week from here on in but more likely after a full pre season we'll get a better idea of what he can offer in August. Still, if he continues to hit the back of the net most weeks it won't do his confidence any harm whatsoever.
Post by: brap2 on March 12, 2018, 04:27:35 PM
Won challenges, hounded down defenders, linked up really well at times (the Baines one-two was excellent), and took his goal really well.
Yeah he doesn’t look like a Jamie vardy pace machine or incredible technique-wise, but he played well imo.
Post by: Macca77 on March 12, 2018, 04:36:38 PM
Post by: BlueMaquis on March 12, 2018, 04:45:13 PM
He's the best Turkish player we've ever had
Bit unfair on Ossie that
Post by: gizzblue on March 12, 2018, 05:35:13 PM
He's 3 goals away from his tally from last season. I'm going to predict he'll do more than "come close".Sure I've said before it's fuck all to do with you what 'I' think of players .👍.
Your constant disingenuous view of Lukaku borders on bitterness.
Your opinion is your opinion .
is mine everyone else's ?...nope. ...and it's not bitter I just don't rate him as much as most is all .
Post by: Jamokachi on March 12, 2018, 05:40:38 PM
Sure I've said before it's fuck all to do with you what 'I' think of players .👍.
Your opinion is your opinion .
is mine everyone else's ?...nope. ...and it's not bitter I just don't rate him as much as most is all .
You 'get' the purpose of a forum, right?
Post by: gizzblue on March 12, 2018, 05:45:48 PM
You 'get' the purpose of a forum, right?Yeah I do but you seem to use it to let off steam on other posters constantly...your life must be quite dull outside .
Don't bother replying to this or any of my posts .. your toxicity is infectious and life is too short .
👍
Post by: dazfrancis on March 12, 2018, 07:00:14 PM
Anyway, just rewatched the goal again. He was heavily in involved in the build up to his goal which is really encouraging.
He came deep to pick up the ball, lay off to Baines, made a run to edge of the 18 yard box where Baines played it into him again. He played it back to Baines with a quick, accurate one touch pass. Baines did what Baines does best and picked him out nicely on the edge of the boss where Cenk finished the job with aplomb.
He looks like an intelligent player who is very economical with the ball. It remains to be seen how good he can be but if he can help us play our football with a bit more intelligence I have a feeling that will be very good news for us.
Post by: BlueForYou on March 12, 2018, 07:36:26 PM
Someone said that Ron could have signed him at the start of the season if he had been arsed
If he wasn't arsed it was because he thought getting Giroud was in the bag
But Telescopic Tosun was probably in his sights
Post by: Jamokachi on March 13, 2018, 02:28:22 AM
Yeah I do but you seem to use it to let off steam on other posters constantly...your life must be quite dull outside .
Don't bother replying to this or any of my posts .. your toxicity is infectious and life is too short .
👍
lolol
I'll reply to whatever I like, thanks.
There's a weird mentality that's developed on here over the last few months. Certain posters don't back up their points, but rather hide behind "that's my opinion, you can have yours". Great, that's true of anything in life, it doesn't mean opinions aren't wrong, and can't be called out.
Back to the original point, Lukaku will score more goals for Utd this season than he did for Everton last.
Post by: duncandisorderly on March 13, 2018, 03:55:32 AM
Post by: YellowHold on March 13, 2018, 06:16:21 AM
Back to the original point, Lukaku will score more goals for Utd this season than he did for Everton last.
He's well short in league goals, and if you're counting every competition he's already played more games and still not scored as many yet.
He was always going to score at a lesser rate though, we built our entire attack around giving the ball to him and hope for him to do something.
He'd still be our best player by a mile if we still had him regardless.
Post by: Jamokachi on March 13, 2018, 06:25:17 AM
He's well short in league goals, and if you're counting every competition he's already played more games and still not scored as many yet.
He was always going to score at a lesser rate though, we built our entire attack around giving the ball to him and hope for him to do something.
He'd still be our best player by a mile if we still had him regardless.
Not questioning any of that, and don't disagree with it either. But, the point was made that he won't "get close" to last years tally, which he already is.
Post by: Shogun on March 13, 2018, 06:39:54 AM
He’s playing in a much better side who are favourites in almost every game.
Post by: YellowHold on March 13, 2018, 06:49:19 AM
Or buying he should get less because the team isn’t built around him.
He’s playing in a much better side who are favourites in almost every game.
Don't think being in a team like that where most teams sit back against hoping to get a 0-0 draw is a positive change for him really, he's at his worst with his back to goal.
He's still going to be top scorer for a side probably finishing second, but he'll always be a much more effective player counter attacking rather than against teams playing deep.
Post by: blargins on March 13, 2018, 06:56:25 AM
Post by: Shogun on March 13, 2018, 06:59:31 AM
Sounds like we have a good penalty taker in Tuson. 22 out of 24 he’s scored. Almost as good as Baines. Better than Rooney.
Rooney’s is only 70% and he’s on our penalties.
Tbf to him, he’s netted the two most important at Anfield and in the last minute at Brighton.
Post by: djws1788 on March 13, 2018, 11:01:09 AM
Not questioning any of that, and don't disagree with it either. But, the point was made that he won't "get close" to last years tally, which he already is.
Playing Devil’s advocate here, but I imagine he was referring to last season’s league tally which he is well down on. He was in with a shout of winning the Golden Boot last season, this year he’ll be lucky to make Top 6.
The lad will likely play 15 more games this year, I’d be worried if he didn’t score more in total than he did for us. Would still have him here though mind.
Post by: Jamokachi on March 13, 2018, 11:58:45 AM
Playing Devil’s advocate here, but I imagine he was referring to last season’s league tally which he is well down on. He was in with a shout of winning the Golden Boot last season, this year he’ll be lucky to make Top 6.
The lad will likely play 15 more games this year, I’d be worried if he didn’t score more in total than he did for us. Would still have him here though mind.
He is a fair bit off in the league, admittedly. Last season was his stand out for us, I'd argue that he'll get as many as his second best season for us (18), and won't be that far off last season's tally come the end of the season.
He get's a hell of a lot of criticism, when I think he's probably due to be cut some slack... it's a hell of a step up for him (mentally more than anything), and has had to adapt to a new playing style, all at the age of 24 still (which people forget).
Oh, and "lucky to make top 6"... he's 1 goal behind Sterling in 4th.
Post by: djws1788 on March 13, 2018, 03:02:27 PM
Everyone under Kane, Salah and Aguero are just as interchangeable as the relegation battle this season.
Also, maybe it is hard to convey over text and I’m not prominent enough on here for my bias to be known, but I’m part of the pro-Lukaku brigade.
Post by: Jamokachi on March 13, 2018, 06:40:05 PM
Firmino is 1 goal behind him in 7th, Son only 2 goals behind in 8th. With Kane's ankle not looking good, Son might be scoring a few more soon.
Everyone under Kane, Salah and Aguero are just as interchangeable as the relegation battle this season.
Also, maybe it is hard to convey over text and I’m not prominent enough on here for my bias to be known, but I’m part of the pro-Lukaku brigade.
And if my aunty had a dick she'd be my uncle...
Fact is Lukaku is in that position now, regardless of how others might be playing and circumstances surrounding them :)
Post by: Lxxx on March 13, 2018, 06:59:38 PM
Post by: gizzblue on March 13, 2018, 08:00:06 PM
Firmino is 1 goal behind him in 7th, Son only 2 goals behind in 8th. With Kane's ankle not looking good, Son might be scoring a few more soon.That's good mate ,you like everyone else deserves their own opinion .
Everyone under Kane, Salah and Aguero are just as interchangeable as the relegation battle this season.
Also, maybe it is hard to convey over text and I'm not prominent enough on here for my bias to be known, but I'm part of the pro-Lukaku brigade.
Although I don't agree ,I respect you right to your opinions.
Post by: Silas on March 17, 2018, 11:17:11 PM
Post by: blueToffee on March 17, 2018, 11:32:22 PM
Hopefully he gets a good run until the end of the season.
We should be looking at another complimentary striker come the summer though.
Post by: Macca77 on March 17, 2018, 11:33:23 PM
Post by: Bally on March 17, 2018, 11:34:44 PM
Post by: TheTone on March 17, 2018, 11:35:17 PM
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 17, 2018, 11:46:12 PM
Post by: Lxxx on March 17, 2018, 11:46:36 PM
Post by: Bluedylan on March 17, 2018, 11:50:21 PM
Post by: Cozzie on March 17, 2018, 11:54:55 PM
The diving header was very Andy Gray-esque.
Post by: blargins on March 17, 2018, 11:57:54 PM
Basically he's put away every chance he's been given from what I recall.
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 18, 2018, 12:02:55 AM
Post by: Cozzie on March 18, 2018, 12:09:37 AM
Post by: TheRam on March 18, 2018, 12:11:16 AM
Post by: gizzblue on March 18, 2018, 12:25:15 AM
Good job we could afford to keep him on the bench for all those games .....
Oh wait .
Post by: keverton1971 on March 18, 2018, 12:31:37 AM
Post by: brap2 on March 18, 2018, 01:27:49 AM
Not amazing athletically. Incidentally I was impressed by DCL’s runs in behind, looks in very good shape, natural athlete with good technical ability.
If DCL could bag he’d actually be a well better player than Cenk imo, but Cenk looks to have a ruthless streak which is priceless.
Post by: BlueForYou on March 18, 2018, 01:29:35 AM
Post by: Sir Stealth on March 18, 2018, 01:40:27 AM
So shove that up your pipe and smoke it
Be surprised if he bags less than 30 next season
Post by: Toffee1 on March 18, 2018, 02:09:42 AM
Nice article.
Really pleased for him and hope this is the start to a very successful career at Everton.
Post by: Waltzer on March 18, 2018, 02:36:06 AM
the new andy gray going on that header on the floor lolhappy with the goal and the win, but Butland was poor, it wasn't a good header at all. But if you don't buy a ticket...
Post by: Shogun on March 18, 2018, 02:47:51 AM
Deffo got Jelavic vibes, but frankly should have had a hatty today if DCL had set him.
Not amazing athletically. Incidentally I was impressed by DCL’s runs in behind, looks in very good shape, natural athlete with good technical ability.
If DCL could bag he’d actually be a well better player than Cenk imo, but Cenk looks to have a ruthless streak which is priceless.
I joked about the Jelavic thing but don’t really see it, Tosun looks a lot more physical.
If we’re conparing him to former strikers then I’d go for Yakubu.
Post by: MmmblueBernard on March 18, 2018, 02:51:26 AM
happy with the goal and the win, but Butland was poor, it wasn't a good header at all.
I’d like to see you put your head down there.
He’s a brave lad. Strong and a natural finisher.
Post by: Heisenberg on March 18, 2018, 02:56:49 AM
Post by: Shropshire Blue on March 18, 2018, 02:57:20 AM
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Post by: Waltzer on March 18, 2018, 03:34:56 AM
I'd like to see you put your head down there.I'm not saying he isn't, and he has a knack of being out the right place at the right time which is what it's about. I'm just saying if that was up our end you'd expect pickford you save it
He's a brave lad. Strong and a natural finisher.
Post by: pjk on March 18, 2018, 03:57:37 AM
https://twitter.com/acampbell68/status/975052304540979205
Post by: brap2 on March 18, 2018, 03:58:30 AM
I joked about the Jelavic thing but don’t really see it, Tosun looks a lot more physical.
If we’re conparing him to former strikers then I’d go for Yakubu.
No don’t see that tbh.
Jelavic was OK technically but not great, physically not quite enough for the prem long term st the level we wanted to get to.
Not seen a lot of Tosun so far of course and I have been impressed, like the look of him, but comes alive in the six yard box, looks a good instinctive finisher, but physically nothing to write home about but puts a shift in and doesn’t shy away.
Post by: Macca77 on March 18, 2018, 04:17:31 AM
Post by: Major Clanger on March 18, 2018, 04:23:00 AM
If only we'd have played him from when we actually bought him. I'm sure we'd have picked an extra few points up that would have had us in the running for europa
I don't know, it is perfectly conceivable that idiotic "he doesn't do cold weather" remark aside, he really did need a couple of weeks getting up to speed.
Post by: BlueMaquis on March 18, 2018, 04:28:00 AM
Tosun goals per match: 0.57
Post by: Silas on March 18, 2018, 04:31:20 AM
Post by: Ramjam on March 18, 2018, 04:49:17 AM
We are shit at songsTo the song whole of the moon by the Waterboys,
To easy
To far
Touson
We’ve got the whole of the moon
Sorry
Post by: van der Meyde on March 18, 2018, 06:58:54 AM
I don't know, it is perfectly conceivable that idiotic "he doesn't do cold weather" remark aside, he really did need a couple of weeks getting up to speed.There were a couple of in the knows saying at the he could clearly finish, but wasn't showing much else in training.
He's also said himself that he felt a bit sluggish because he hadn't played for a while because of the winter break.
The bashing Allardyce is getting for it is a little over the top really.
Post by: oztoffee on March 18, 2018, 07:39:44 AM
No don’t see that tbh.
Jelavic was OK technically but not great, physically not quite enough for the prem long term st the level we wanted to get to.
Not seen a lot of Tosun so far of course and I have been impressed, like the look of him, but comes alive in the six yard box, looks a good instinctive finisher, but physically nothing to write home about but puts a shift in and doesn’t shy away.
Bit of a poacher really. Not the modern game, apparently. But he scores goals, can't ask for more really.
Post by: Sir Stealth on March 18, 2018, 03:20:13 PM
We are shit at songs
It breaks my heart that we are the worst football club in the world when it comes to songs
Post by: Cozzie on March 18, 2018, 03:31:37 PM
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on March 18, 2018, 04:32:06 PM
Post by: Alanvideo on March 18, 2018, 04:57:54 PM
It breaks my heart that we are the worst football club in the world when it comes to songs....................we're not though , we had the Barkley and Lukaku songs and they fucked off. We need a Sam song................
Post by: Ramjam on March 18, 2018, 05:03:32 PM
....................we're not though , we had the Barkley and Lukaku songs and they fucked off. We need a Sam song................
Bay City Rollers
By by Sammy, Sammy by by
Post by: Thornton_19 on March 18, 2018, 05:55:44 PM
....................we're not though , we had the Barkley and Lukaku songs and they fucked off. We need a Sam song................"Fuck off Sam Alladyce, Fuck off Sam Alladyce"
That okay?
Post by: gizzblue on March 18, 2018, 06:29:06 PM
"Fuck off Sam Alladyce, Fuck off Sam Alladyce"As long as the second verse is the same as the first and the chorus is :- You fat cunt.
That okay?
Post by: Dr. Sponge on March 18, 2018, 08:06:55 PM
Definitely a difference having a striker that can take a chance, but two wins in two coinciding with Baines, Coleman and Jagielka in the side. We can’t go into another season without addressing these positions. A better back up for Coleman and a replacement for both Baines & Jags (but also keep Baines).
Needless to say this involves Walsh fucking off and Moshiri getting someone in who knows what he’s doing.
Post by: Rodenplav64 on March 18, 2018, 08:49:11 PM
Bit of a poacher really. Not the modern game, apparently. But he scores goals, can't ask for more really.
Look at some of his goals for Besiktas . No way is the lad just a poacher . If we play him thinking that's all he is then his scoring will soon come to an end .
Post by: Mayor Farnum on March 18, 2018, 08:55:11 PM
Post by: brap2 on March 18, 2018, 09:35:25 PM
Look at some of his goals for Besiktas . No way is the lad just a poacher . If we play him thinking that's all he is then his scoring will soon come to an end .
One of his big features for besiktas was that he took a lot of shots, variety of angles, both feet as well.
Looking forward to seeing that side of his game; make half a yard and boot through it.
Needs a proper song this lad, come on, put your heads together lids.
Post by: Heisenberg on March 18, 2018, 10:28:26 PM
Post by: Heisenberg on March 18, 2018, 10:29:44 PM
https://twitter.com/EvertonCentral_/status/975113018211258368
Seen a tweet saying the waving guy is tosuns dad
Post by: blue1948 on March 19, 2018, 12:22:11 AM
Just caught up on the highlights from yesterday’s game, so obviously now I’m an expert.
Definitely a difference having a striker that can take a chance, but two wins in two coinciding with Baines, Coleman and Jagielka in the side. We can’t go into another season without addressing these positions. A better back up for Coleman and a replacement for both Baines & Jags (but also keep Baines).
Needless to say this involves Walsh fucking off and Moshiri getting someone in who knows what he’s doing.
All that from the highlights !
Post by: Robbie Moubert on March 19, 2018, 12:26:26 AM
Post by: Ross on March 19, 2018, 12:51:52 AM
I see Tosun has mentioned the work he does with Duncan Ferguson in training (as did Calvert-Lewin recently). Must be something to do with the way he puts those cones out...
Yeah yeah but what does he do?....
Post by: Dr. Sponge on March 19, 2018, 06:21:06 AM
All that from the highlights !
MOTD2 has just cemented my analyses.
Post by: Ramjam on March 19, 2018, 08:46:09 AM
Touson Touson Touson Touson, you wanna be in my team my team my team
Post by: Jamokachi on March 19, 2018, 11:11:42 AM
Post by: Ramjam on March 19, 2018, 02:22:59 PM
I'd rather we didn't use a known peadophiles song, thanks.Well I can understand that but it’s ok to appoint a corrupt manager, where do we draw the line?
Post by: Mick 1995 on March 19, 2018, 05:14:25 PM
Well I can understand that but it’s ok to appoint a corrupt manager, where do we draw the line?
Wherever the line is drawn, i'd expect most people would suggest peadophilia would be on the other side of it like.
Post by: pjk on March 19, 2018, 05:21:11 PM
Post by: Audrey Horne on March 19, 2018, 05:35:15 PM
Well I can understand that but it’s ok to appoint a corrupt manager, where do we draw the line?
Are you fucking serious?
Post by: Ramjam on March 19, 2018, 05:45:05 PM
Post by: iainjones37 on March 19, 2018, 05:47:58 PM
Post by: Ramjam on March 19, 2018, 05:57:12 PM
Hoping Tossun do the business against the redsLet’s hope so, we are due a wee bit of luck against this lot, need to stop the supply to their front two so our midfield will need to work their bollocks off and hold up play from Tosun and Walcott is will be most important. Not a game for Bolasie, I think it will be to physical for him rather see Vlasic mixing it with them in the middle.
Post by: brap2 on March 19, 2018, 06:59:50 PM
I’d play Cenk and DCL and tell the wingers to whip crosses to the back stick. Take van dijk out of it with the flight of the ball and capitalise on Gomes/TAA being less capable than him.
Post by: School of Science on March 19, 2018, 07:25:39 PM
Post by: Lincs Toffee on March 19, 2018, 10:23:00 PM
Yeahhh ooohhh!
Our Cenk is on Fire
Ok i'll get my coat.
Post by: gizzblue on March 19, 2018, 10:48:29 PM
Let's hope so, we are due a wee bit of luck against this lot, need to stop the supply to their front two so our midfield will need to work their bollocks off and hold up play from Tosun and Walcott is will be most important. Not a game for Bolasie, I think it will be to physical for him rather see Vlasic mixing it with them in the middle.And hope Salah's legs fall off on international duty .
Post by: Major Clanger on March 19, 2018, 11:00:21 PM
Yeah yeah but what does he do?....
Maybe that's what Ian Ross said on the radio.
Post by: TheTone on March 19, 2018, 11:05:03 PM
You saw the goal of Tosun, the goal of Tosun
Post by: Bally on March 20, 2018, 03:50:07 PM
The Waterboys, the whole of the moonHaha
You saw the goal of Tosun, the goal of Tosun
I pictured a striker
You gave us Niasse
He had flashes
But the fella needs some class
We've looked around for a 9 these years
While playing with some fools
We needed a sttiker
You got us Cenk Tosun
Big Cenk Tosun
Post by: School of Science on March 20, 2018, 06:54:09 PM
How about when he scores...(in the tune of Kings of Leon )
Yeahhh ooohhh!
Our Cenk is on Fire
Ok i'll get my coat.
Lol isn't that song about venereal disease ? A bit inappropriate for our new Turkish slotted and i know he's deadly in the box :snigger:
Post by: Lincs Toffee on March 20, 2018, 07:10:47 PM
Lol isn't that song about venereal disease ? A bit inappropriate for our new Turkish slotted and i know he's deadly in the box :snigger:Well every day is a school day, is that right ?
Post by: Macca77 on March 20, 2018, 07:21:30 PM
Na na naaa na
Heeeeeey
Cenk Tosun
Post by: School of Science on March 20, 2018, 09:21:47 PM
Well every day is a school day, is that right ?
Just goes to show, you should always read through your posts before you post them, meaning me of course.
Post by: Cozzie on March 20, 2018, 10:02:34 PM
Its Cenk once again hes the mega goal blaster,
defence damager,
power through the back line
Cenk once again hes the mega goal blaster,
defence damager,
power through the back line
Cenk once again hes the mega goal blaster,
defence damager,
power through the back line
Repeat until fade.
Hopefully Cenk accompanies this song with a nice jivey dance to go with it when he scores.
Post by: Brownie on March 20, 2018, 11:07:27 PM
To the tune of Renegade Master.
Its Cenk once again hes the mega goal blaster,
defence damager,
power through the back line
Cenk once again hes the mega goal blaster,
defence damager,
power through the back line
Cenk once again hes the mega goal blaster,
defence damager,
power through the back line
Repeat until fade.
Hopefully Cenk accompanies this song with a nice jivey dance to go with it when he scores.
Try getting a bunch of fans getting the tempo right on that. Will be fun 😂
Post by: Ell Capitan on March 20, 2018, 11:19:35 PM
Senk
Kenk
Jenk
Chenk
Toe-sun
Toss-sun
Too-sun
Toe-soon
Toh-soon
?
Playing absolute havoc with my autocorrect, this post.
Post by: Brownie on March 20, 2018, 11:20:39 PM
Need to start off by pronouncing his name right. Is it:
Senk
Kenk
Jenk
Chenk
Toe-sun
Toss-sun
Too-sun
Toe-soon
Toh-soon
?
Playing absolute havoc with my autocorrect, this post.
I think he looks like a Mike. I'm going to call him Mike
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 20, 2018, 11:28:49 PM
Need to start off by pronouncing his name right. Is it:Jenk apparently
Senk
Kenk
Jenk
Chenk
Toe-sun
Toss-sun
Too-sun
Toe-soon
Toh-soon
?
Playing absolute havoc with my autocorrect, this post.
Post by: Confucius on March 21, 2018, 11:36:18 AM
Jenk apparently
Is that some kind of coke?
Post by: BlueMaquis on March 21, 2018, 11:49:27 AM
Is that some kind of coke?
Close.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenkem
Post by: Bally on March 21, 2018, 01:36:03 PM
Is that some kind of coke?Loves the beak
Post by: Lxxx on March 21, 2018, 04:08:41 PM
To the tune of Renegade Master.
Its Cenk once again hes the mega goal blaster,
defence damager,
power through the back line
Cenk once again hes the mega goal blaster,
defence damager,
power through the back line
Cenk once again hes the mega goal blaster,
defence damager,
power through the back line
Repeat until fade.
Hopefully Cenk accompanies this song with a nice jivey dance to go with it when he scores.
Speechless.
Post by: sam of the south on March 21, 2018, 05:28:58 PM
Try getting a bunch of fans getting the tempo right on that. Will be fun 😂
Yeah, to a set of fans that have historically only really mastered the nuances of “Everton, Everton, Ever-too-oon” it would be unlikely
Post by: Major Clanger on March 21, 2018, 05:48:25 PM
One true religion.
One voice, one hope,
One real decision.
Gimme one night.
Gimme one hope.
Just gimme.
One man, one man,
One bar, one night,
One day.
Just gimme gimme, gimme, gimme.
Cenk Tosun!
Post by: Ell Capitan on April 02, 2018, 08:55:38 PM
Post by: brap2 on April 02, 2018, 10:29:50 PM
I also think he’ll have competition in the form of a new signing next year.
Post by: Lxxx on April 03, 2018, 03:40:43 AM
Get the sense watching him play that he's gonna be one of those strikers that scores a good number of goals, but doesn't contribute much else to the team.
Which, when not many others contribute much either, isn’t really what’s required. Or expected for £27m.
Post by: themilkycoffees on April 03, 2018, 06:58:20 PM
Like the look of him but back DCL to be starting over him inside 12 months.
I also think he’ll have competition in the form of a new signing next year.
Unsure what DCL has done to justify this sort of claim. He looks nowhere near ready to play in the PL to me and it would take a huge leap forward in 12 months for him to be good enough for us. He's got potential but can't think of any Premier League club where he would start as a first-choice. Tammy Abraham is just as good and isn't good enough to be a regular starter for Swansea. Loan to the Championship next season would be ideal I think.
Post by: Lxxx on April 03, 2018, 07:18:09 PM
Unsure what DCL has done to justify this sort of claim. He looks nowhere near ready to play in the PL to me and it would take a huge leap forward in 12 months for him to be good enough for us. He's got potential but can't think of any Premier League club where he would start as a first-choice. Abraham at Swansea is just as good and isn't good enough to be a regular starter for Swansea. Loan to the Championship next season would be ideal I think.
I agree. The lad is neat and tidy but I don't see anything that makes me think he can hold his own at this level. Maybe he'll develop a killer instinct playing every week against a lower standard of opposition but for the time being I don't see much call for him being here next season if we do buy another genuine first team forward.
Post by: TheRam on April 03, 2018, 07:20:34 PM
I'd only loan him to a Premier league team myself, failing that keep him here because he's developing at a really good rate.
Post by: Brownie on April 03, 2018, 07:29:55 PM
Post by: brap2 on April 03, 2018, 08:56:20 PM
Unsure what DCL has done to justify this sort of claim. He looks nowhere near ready to play in the PL to me and it would take a huge leap forward in 12 months for him to be good enough for us. He's got potential but can't think of any Premier League club where he would start as a first-choice. Abraham at Swansea is just as good and isn't good enough to be a regular starter for Swansea. Loan to the Championship next season would be ideal I think.
Not sure where the idea he ISNT good enough comes from. Involved in as many goals as anyone in our side this year.
Only things I haven’t seen him do is a) take lots of shots b) strike a ball cleanly through and c) score score score
I know that seems really obviously important for a striker, but backing him to start producing.
From what I’ve seen in open play Tosun offers about the same but looks less mobile. He does shoot more and is more predatory but I’m personally saying given another 12 months DCL can potentially be better.
Post by: themilkycoffees on April 03, 2018, 10:04:53 PM
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/one-stat-proves-how-important-14484661
Fair play to the lad. I've got nothing against him but Tosun now level on Premier League goals in 20 less games. My original point is that he's nowhere near good enough to get us to where we want to go and that's the case with a lot of the squad. I think the stats in this case just serve to highlight how poor the season has been overall, with a lack of both individual and team success.
We've had to rely on him as we didn't have anyone else after last summer's fiasco and he's worked hard and chipped in with a few goals, but I don't see him going on to loan and being any PL side's first choice next season. Loan him to a Championship club and let him get a full season under his belt starting games and then reassess.
Post by: howard1334 on April 03, 2018, 10:21:31 PM
Like the look of him but back DCL to be starting over him inside 12 months.
I also think he’ll have competition in the form of a new signing next year.
DCL can't score consistently. Besides heading the ball, his holdup play is also sub-par. Can't really back defenders down. If these two issues remain, there is no way he will be starting over Tosun.
Post by: Ridge on April 03, 2018, 10:36:43 PM
Post by: themilkycoffees on April 03, 2018, 10:39:24 PM
All of Tosun's goals came with DCL on the pitch.
Pickford too. How is this related? Apart from the fact DCL should have scored before Tosun actually did at Stoke?
Post by: Ell Capitan on April 04, 2018, 12:03:13 AM
Post by: Sir Stealth on April 05, 2018, 06:58:47 PM
Post by: SteB on April 06, 2018, 08:18:45 AM
Post by: Mick 1995 on April 06, 2018, 04:09:16 PM
I get on really well with Big Sam. He’s been in contact with me for a long time and wanted me when he was at Crystal Palace. He made it clear there would be a place for me at Everton. Sam played an important role in the transfer [to Everton]. He was always open with me, he doesn’t mince his words. He says what’s on his mind.
On Big Dunc....
We have a legendary player here called Duncan Ferguson and he has been a huge help behind the scenes. He stayed behind with me after training to work on my game and my fitness, getting me up to speed with the Premier League. He always believed in me. When I wasn’t playing he helped me keep my head up. He’s been fantastic, we work really closely together, I think I remind him of himself a bit.
On Liverpool culture....
I’ve tried the Scouse dish. I like trying traditional foods but I have to say the English [language] here took me by surprise, it isn’t what I was taught in lessons. I’m not going to lie I didn’t understand anything when I first arrived. It is not the English taught in the classrooms. I remember my first training session, there are a few players in the youth team that have a really strong Scouse accent and I didn’t have a clue what they were saying. I thought maybe I had not learned English properly but I could understand some of the others so figured out it must be a regional thing.
On Evertonians....
They pronounce my name really well to be honest, they call me Cenk but I have heard some of the fans call me Tosun Pasha [meaning King Tosun or General Tosun which I was chuffed about. Knowing they actually researched and spoke with Besiktas fans to learn this left me gobsmacked.
On tomorrow’s derby....
This is a huge derby, I know what it means to the club and the fans. I always watched the previous Merseyside derbies. I am preparing myself. I’m taking it very seriously. This is serious, it’s more than just a game. I know that and all that is important is the win. We want to give the fans something to cheer about. In a city with more than one big club these games mean everything
Post by: Waltzer on April 06, 2018, 04:24:47 PM
If DCL learns how to get himself into goalscoring positions and find the back of the net, we’ll have a real talent on our hands.
So we have to teach him how to become a striker!!? :)
Post by: Tinga on April 06, 2018, 04:59:02 PM
Post by: brap2 on April 10, 2018, 04:40:42 AM
So we have to teach him how to become a striker!!? :)
Yes
DCL shouldn't be anywhere near the starting eleven to be honest, we should be looking for much more.
3rd choice next year would be sound, as long as we have Tosun and another who is top 10 standard (if Tosun is).
Post by: TheRam on April 10, 2018, 04:49:56 AM
He's clearly got a lot more to his game.
He was feeding off scraps at the weekend and making something out of nothing.
Got a superb touch and appreciation of the players around him. Showed some great awareness to try and lay that header on to Coleman.
Post by: brap2 on April 10, 2018, 04:50:58 AM
I think we can all stop the Jelavic comparisons.
He's clearly got a lot more to his game.
He was feeding off scraps at the weekend and making something out of nothing.
Got a superb touch and appreciation of the players around him. Showed some great awareness to try and lay that header on to Coleman.
Not as convinced, like the look of him but need to see more prem minutes.
Post by: Lxxx on April 10, 2018, 03:21:14 PM
Post by: Toffee1 on April 10, 2018, 04:32:12 PM
Post by: Brownie on April 10, 2018, 04:36:51 PM
https://turkish-football.com/photo-besiktas-fans-hang-everton-shirts-at-home-ground-during-5-1-victory/
I like that
Post by: Macca77 on April 10, 2018, 05:17:50 PM
https://turkish-football.com/photo-besiktas-fans-hang-everton-shirts-at-home-ground-during-5-1-victory/
Weirdos!
Post by: Bally on April 10, 2018, 08:41:24 PM
https://turkish-football.com/photo-besiktas-fans-hang-everton-shirts-at-home-ground-during-5-1-victory/Boss that
Post by: Brownie on April 11, 2018, 03:04:33 AM
Post by: Toffee1 on April 11, 2018, 03:12:27 AM
I think we will see the best of him with a quick partner up front. In the first half on Saturday there was a beautiful little flick on by Cenk into Rooney's path but he wasn't quick enough to get on to it.
Thought he worked really hard on Saturday and he does have a nice understanding of the game. Pre-season and better manager will help him and the team immensely.
Post by: Paddockoldie on April 11, 2018, 03:28:01 AM
I like that
Good copies. Nice sentiment
Post by: Hawkandro on April 11, 2018, 03:21:00 PM
This... is about as underwhelming a transfer story as I can think of.
A 28yo DM who Leeds United want. Yeah... I'll pass, thanks.