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Title: Deadline Day
Post by: Gash on January 31, 2018, 04:10:14 AM
My money's on none in and a couple out.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 31, 2018, 04:14:05 AM
My money's on none in and a couple out.
Should be fun

I'll be amazed if Jim White doesn't make a rumour up at some point
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 04:16:00 AM
Nothing will happen, nothing to see here
Title: Deadline Day
Post by: Goaljira on January 31, 2018, 04:23:56 AM
We've been linked to Lucas Digne, who i've never heard of.

#RubberDigneRapidsBro
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 04:25:20 AM
We've been linked to Lucas Digne, who i've never heard of.

#RubberDigneRapidsBro

Barca left back
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 31, 2018, 04:25:29 AM
We've been linked to Lucas Digne, who i've never heard of.

#RubberDigneRapidsBro
Barcelona err reserve left back
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 31, 2018, 04:25:29 AM
We've been linked to Lucas Digne, who i've never heard of.

#RubberDigneRapidsBro

LB ainít he?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 31, 2018, 04:26:32 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5331615/Everton-pair-Klaassen-Sandro-leave-loan.html
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bluenuck on January 31, 2018, 04:27:12 AM
My money's on none in and a couple out.

We'll buy a right back.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 31, 2018, 04:27:22 AM
https://rokerreport.sbnation.com/2018/1/30/16949466/gossip-sunderland-holding-out-for-nmecha-as-21-year-old-everton-attacker-could-be-on-his-way
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 31, 2018, 04:28:55 AM
And genuinely, that's all the Internet new for us
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 31, 2018, 04:29:51 AM
Barcelona err reserve left back
He played for them on Sunday
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 31, 2018, 04:31:05 AM
With Sandro (and Klaassen) gone thatís freed up £1m a month in wages - can deffo see us bringing someone in now.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Ravardo on January 31, 2018, 04:39:27 AM
Surely if we dont get a left back this window and what with no striker in the last one steve walsh will have to go
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Cereal Killer on January 31, 2018, 04:43:05 AM
With Sandro (and Klaassen) gone thatís freed up £1m a month in wages - can deffo see us bringing someone in now.

I doubt either club they've gone to are paying 100% of their wages, even 50%...
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Tony Clifton on January 31, 2018, 04:46:25 AM
Cheeky bid for Gareth Barry anyone?  I reckon he could do a job for us him...  :headbang:

part-ex deal - Steve Walsh and £900,000 in cash. 

Used to love those big almost a million! deals.

Seriously though, just hoping Walsh literally gets thrown out of Finch Farm gates as soon as this window closes, live on SSN.  Pretty much fuck all else of much use to us is going to happen between now and then.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Shogun on January 31, 2018, 04:49:06 AM
N'Zonzi seems very likely.

Wouldn't be surprised if we ended up with Lamine Kone despite him being shite and a twat.

Gameiro?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Evertonian in NC on January 31, 2018, 05:06:51 AM

despite him being shite and a twat.


Ain't that precisely what we're looking for, in the Walsh/Allardyce era?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jamokachi on January 31, 2018, 05:07:20 AM
N'Zonzi seems very likely.

Does it?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Shogun on January 31, 2018, 05:08:19 AM
Does it?

Could turn out 2+2=5 like.

Sevilla have just signed a CM
We've just sold a CM
Sandro has just gone to Sevilla
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: everton1952 on January 31, 2018, 05:52:57 AM
Blimey that is 3 out in one day! Besic going to Middlesborough on loan. Loads of money off the wage bill and maybe someone coming in  tomorrow?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 31, 2018, 05:54:06 AM
Blimey that is 3 out in one day! Besic going to Middlesborough on loan. Loads of money off the wage bill and maybe someone coming in  tomorrow?
Do you reckon their wages are being paid by the clubs signing them?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: blargins on January 31, 2018, 05:57:45 AM
We've been linked to Lucas Digne, who i've never heard of.

#RubberDigneRapidsBro

We're not worthy.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: everton1952 on January 31, 2018, 05:59:23 AM
What about Flanagan off the Shite? He belted his girl friend so he would defo add fight to us. Or is he a right back?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 31, 2018, 06:02:26 AM
What about Flanagan off the Shite? He belted his girl friend so he would defo add fight to us. Or is he a right back?

What an awful thing to say.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jamokachi on January 31, 2018, 06:04:07 AM
What about Flanagan off the Shite? He belted his girl friend so he would defo add fight to us. Or is he a right back?

Don't be a fucking prick.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: everton1952 on January 31, 2018, 06:13:15 AM
Don't be a fucking prick.
Don't use such appalling language.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: everton1952 on January 31, 2018, 06:14:35 AM
What an awful thing to say.
Yes it was. Though your reaction was better than the other illiterate response.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Evertonian in NC on January 31, 2018, 06:16:12 AM
WUMs gon' WUM
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: everton1952 on January 31, 2018, 06:17:59 AM
The good news will come tomorrow. We will win and sign a good player. Now to bed and dream of our revival.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: kramer0 on January 31, 2018, 06:26:00 AM
It all depends on whether the right expensive 28 year olds with Premier League experience are available.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Thornton_19 on January 31, 2018, 06:32:36 AM
The Digne stuff is from a very unreliable journalist in Spain.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Gash on January 31, 2018, 06:35:02 AM
Don't use such appalling language.

Yeah, because making light of domestic abuse and taking the piss out of Ramadan is perfectly alright. Fucking whopper.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Evertonian in NC on January 31, 2018, 06:39:02 AM
At least we're not giving up on Tom Davies...RIGHT?

Pretty fucking bummed about the fate of my No. 9 Sandro shirt.  Guess a sign from God that I am too old to be wearing such things.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on January 31, 2018, 06:46:50 AM
Is Ramadan a left back?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Nick on January 31, 2018, 07:47:35 AM
How on earth can Everton expect to do business on a day they have a match?!?

It's just scandalous.

That's if the word 'scandalous' means a pathetic excuse.

We need a striker.  Someone who can perform in the premier league.  I'm amazed we didn't put a bid in for Sanchez.  There's no way he would've accepted, but it would have shown some intention to sign a high profile player, instead of all the dross we seem to concentrate on.

Sigurdsson is a decent player, though probably not too happy at playing out of position.  Is he worth £45m though?  I'm not so sure.

Keane.  I don't know where to start on that lad.

£20m for Walcott but Barkley sells for just £15m?  As Dizzee would say, that is just bonkers.  I appreciate Barkley hasn't played for ages, but Walcott was hardly getting much game time either.  Barkley makes the odd mistake, fair enough but his potential at 24 is far greater than Walcott's at soon to be 29 and someone who makes a lot of mistakes.

It's just mental.

Pickford has been our, erm pick of recent-ish transfers.  £25m looks like a bargain.  I honestly think he will become a world class keeper.

Lookman needs to play more.

Why not have a punt on Giroud?  He wants first team action and that is something we can provide!  Mahrez even.

A left back would be nice too, but lets not get ahead of ourselves as we will no doubt unveil and unheard of striker from a distant league.

Cue fireworks and the damp squib of disappointment that will follow.

Show some bloody initiative Everton instead of acting like a second rate team!
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: blargins on January 31, 2018, 08:02:38 AM
How on earth can Everton expect to do business on a day they have a match?!?

It's just scandalous.

That's if the word 'scandalous' means a pathetic excuse.

We need a striker.  Someone who can perform in the premier league.  I'm amazed we didn't put a bid in for Sanchez.  There's no way he would've accepted, but it would have shown some intention to sign a high profile player, instead of all the dross we seem to concentrate on.

Sigurdsson is a decent player, though probably not too happy at playing out of position.  Is he worth £45m though?  I'm not so sure.

Keane.  I don't know where to start on that lad.

£20m for Walcott but Barkley sells for just £15m?  As Dizzee would say, that is just bonkers.  I appreciate Barkley hasn't played for ages, but Walcott was hardly getting much game time either.  Barkley makes the odd mistake, fair enough but his potential at 24 is far greater than Walcott's at soon to be 29 and someone who makes a lot of mistakes.

It's just mental.

Pickford has been our, erm pick of recent-ish transfers.  £25m looks like a bargain.  I honestly think he will become a world class keeper.

Lookman needs to play more.

Why not have a punt on Giroud?  He wants first team action and that is something we can provide!  Mahrez even.

A left back would be nice too, but lets not get ahead of ourselves as we will no doubt unveil and unheard of striker from a distant league.

Cue fireworks and the damp squib of disappointment that will follow.

Show some bloody initiative Everton instead of acting like a second rate team!
Barkley had 6 months left on his contract. Thatís why he went for so little.

Seen Giroud to Chelsea for 35 million. Nuts for a 31 year old.

20 mill for Walcott isnít a bad price all things considered.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Ramjam on January 31, 2018, 08:05:01 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180131/9a0110ce405b0fbcb1279c9954852f2e.jpg)
Beautiful, this should knock the stuffing out of the Foxes
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jamokachi on January 31, 2018, 08:11:01 AM
Don't use such appalling language.

Fuck you, and fuck the horse you rode in on.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jamokachi on January 31, 2018, 08:12:26 AM
illiterate

Do you know the meaning of this word?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Nick on January 31, 2018, 08:14:51 AM
Barkley had 6 months left on his contract. Thatís why he went for so little.

Seen Giroud to Chelsea for 35 million. Nuts for a 31 year old.

20 mill for Walcott isnít a bad price all things considered.

Giroud is a decent player.

Walcott is pretty average.

Yeah, the Barkley situation was difficult for Everton given the contract situation.  It hurts though.  Such a quality player gone for so little.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 11:00:08 AM
https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/958538804901695488
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Confucius on January 31, 2018, 11:12:22 AM
https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/958538804901695488

Would be all over that. Liking us moving I. The loan market, its where we do our best business.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Glory on January 31, 2018, 11:27:23 AM
Isn't he meant to be pretty awful though? I haven't seen much of him to really pass judgement.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Trowel on January 31, 2018, 12:43:32 PM
https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/958538804901695488

(http://www.skillsroad.com.au/SR/files/b7/b7ad5214-29e0-4224-adab-532d7885b5f3.gif)
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on January 31, 2018, 12:43:37 PM
He'll fit in perfectly with the other bag of shite that we already have at the back.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Waltzer on January 31, 2018, 01:07:27 PM
He'll fit in perfectly with the other bag of shite that we already have at the back.

Cant please some people, were potentially signing a player from this seasons Champions, hes played 15 times for them already and they're only allowing him to leave cause they just broke their transfer record for another defender. I can guarantee Williams or Jags wouldnt have played 15 times for City this season, I think its a great signing, even if only on loan
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 01:14:32 PM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/11230111/everton-confident-of-signing-eliaquim-mangala-from-mancheste-city-on-deadline-day
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 31, 2018, 01:17:00 PM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/11230111/everton-confident-of-signing-eliaquim-mangala-from-mancheste-city-on-deadline-day
Watching ssn and they are saying he is going Newcastle
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 01:18:07 PM
Watching ssn and they are saying he is going Newcastle

Hope so
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Cozzie on January 31, 2018, 01:30:44 PM
Mangala is a bag of shite.

We need a left back not a left sided CB.

Dont reckon we will get anyone in.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Cozzie on January 31, 2018, 01:31:11 PM
Shite the way we have a game on today.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: TheRam on January 31, 2018, 01:48:38 PM
Mangala would be a great signing.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on January 31, 2018, 02:01:34 PM
Cant please some people, were potentially signing a player from this seasons Champions, hes played 15 times for them already and they're only allowing him to leave cause they just broke their transfer record for another defender. I can guarantee Williams or Jags wouldnt have played 15 times for City this season, I think its a great signing, even if only on loan

Just to reiterate he is a bag of shite, even if its a loan deal.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Trowel on January 31, 2018, 02:04:35 PM
Here's some of the reaction to Mangala's performance against Bristol City recently.

http://www.talkingbaws.com/2018/01/eliaquim-mangala-is-being-destroyed-by-man-city-fans-on-twitter/
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: TheRam on January 31, 2018, 02:04:52 PM
Lads, jags is still our best centre half. Mangala on loan would be a very good addition.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: TheRam on January 31, 2018, 02:05:32 PM
Here's some of the reaction to Mangala's performance against Bristol City recently.

http://www.talkingbaws.com/2018/01/eliaquim-mangala-is-being-destroyed-by-man-city-fans-on-twitter/

Shall we dig up what we've said about Keane and Williams this season?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Trowel on January 31, 2018, 02:09:21 PM
Shall we dig up what we've said about Keane and Williams this season?
Sure, but I don't think that makes Mangala a better player.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Waltzer on January 31, 2018, 02:17:00 PM
Sure, but I don't think that makes Mangala a better player.

Its all opinions but im struggling to understand how anyone wouldnt think Mangala is better than Williams?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Cozzie on January 31, 2018, 02:18:41 PM
Nah lads.

Mangala is garbage.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 02:30:18 PM
I'm bored with deadline day already, can't be arsed with thew Giroud / Aubameyang / Mahrez / saga, sky sports presenters are trying to hard again here.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Waltzer on January 31, 2018, 02:37:54 PM
Nah lads.

Mangala is garbage.

If it a straight choice of going with what weve got or getting Mangala in are you saying you'd stay as we are with 33 year old Williams, 35 year old Jags, woefully out of form Keane and Holgate who have conceded 39 goals in 24 games?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 31, 2018, 02:38:16 PM
Cant please some people, were potentially signing a player from this seasons Champions, hes played 15 times for them already and they're only allowing him to leave cause they just broke their transfer record for another defender. I can guarantee Williams or Jags wouldnt have played 15 times for City this season, I think its a great signing, even if only on loan

Mate you are clutching at straws . He has looked awful not just this season but since he came to the club . Like I always say everyone gets a chance but fuck me you can't be impressed by anything you have seen from him . It is a catastrophe if we don't get a LB and we are in more danger of going down than we were when Allardyce came .I genuinely hope I am wrong about him .
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 02:38:25 PM
Allardyce on talksport, said looking at bringing one in today on loan and one more will be leaving.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Waltzer on January 31, 2018, 02:41:08 PM
Mate you are clutching at straws . He has looked awful not just this season but since he came to the club . Like I always say everyone gets a chance but fuck me you can't be impressed by anything you have seen from him . It is a catastrophe if we don't get a LB and we are in more danger of going down than we were when Allardyce came .I genuinely hope I am wrong about him .

I think we need a left back 100%, and Mangala isnt the greatest, but id say hes better than most of what weve got. It also gives us better options with regards to playing 3 across the back with him being naturally left footed. If we had a team full of world class centre backs I could understand the fume, but we've got an ageing back line that are shipping goals for fun I genuinely dont see this as anything other than positive, especially on loan!?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Ramjam on January 31, 2018, 02:42:00 PM
Allardyce on talksport, said looking at bringing one in today on loan and one more will be leaving.
Letís hope itís Sam himself thatís leaving
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: eugene on January 31, 2018, 02:42:23 PM
Allardyce on talksport, said looking at bringing one in today on loan and one more will be leaving.
Yes itís Besic, just never had a substantial run of games for us, love his attitude like
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 02:45:11 PM
Klaassen maybe staying then?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 31, 2018, 02:48:48 PM
I think we need a left back 100%, and Mangala isnt the greatest, but id say hes better than most of what weve got. It also gives us better options with regards to playing 3 across the back with him being naturally left footed. If we had a team full of world class centre backs I could understand the fume, but we've got an ageing back line that are shipping goals for fun I genuinely dont see this as anything other than positive, especially on loan!?

I am not fuming and loans don't really matter I suppose . There was at one point a good defender at Porto but he has not looked suited to the league . I jus don't see him settling the defence or our midfield keeping hold of the ball or creating chances . We are doomed under Allardyce and I am gutted by the mess Moshiri has made of this club . I am 54 so have seen plenty of bad times but this season more than most has killed me off . You are right in that he is better than Williams and will have been coached well until today so lets hope what he has learnt at city isn't coached out of him by Allardyce .
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: D15TIN on January 31, 2018, 02:51:38 PM
Is he better than what weve got? Probably. at 26 hes at a good age, lets be honest Keane has been terrible, Williams and jagielka are getting on and arnt really good enough anymore, Holgates been up and down.

Not going to turn my nose up at a French international whose played 15 times for this seasons soon to be champions
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: dangermouse on January 31, 2018, 02:53:39 PM
How on earth can Everton expect to do business on a day they have a match?!?

It's just scandalous.

That's if the word 'scandalous' means a pathetic excuse.

We need a striker.  Someone who can perform in the premier league. I'm amazed we didn't put a bid in for Sanchez.  There's no way he would've accepted, but it would have shown some intention to sign a high profile player, instead of all the dross we seem to concentrate on.

Sigurdsson is a decent player, though probably not too happy at playing out of position.  Is he worth £45m though?  I'm not so sure.

Keane.  I don't know where to start on that lad.

£20m for Walcott but Barkley sells for just £15m?  As Dizzee would say, that is just bonkers.  I appreciate Barkley hasn't played for ages, but Walcott was hardly getting much game time either.  Barkley makes the odd mistake, fair enough but his potential at 24 is far greater than Walcott's at soon to be 29 and someone who makes a lot of mistakes.

It's just mental.

Pickford has been our, erm pick of recent-ish transfers.  £25m looks like a bargain.  I honestly think he will become a world class keeper.

Lookman needs to play more.

Why not have a punt on Giroud?  He wants first team action and that is something we can provide!  Mahrez even.

A left back would be nice too, but lets not get ahead of ourselves as we will no doubt unveil and unheard of striker from a distant league.

Cue fireworks and the damp squib of disappointment that will follow.

Show some bloody initiative Everton instead of acting like a second rate team!

 :Horse:
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: School of Science on January 31, 2018, 02:54:37 PM
Could Mangala be better than what we've got, quite possibly, let's face it our defence has been shite this season, lack of pace one of the reasons, Mangala is quick, athletic and powerfully. Looking through our central defenders, I can't see much of that, especially in one player. If he signs are we going to give him a chance, don't worry too much lads even if he is shite, we can just send him back....... Unlike some of our signings last year.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Cozzie on January 31, 2018, 02:54:51 PM
If it a straight choice of going with what weve got or getting Mangala in are you saying you'd stay as we are with 33 year old Williams, 35 year old Jags, woefully out of form Keane and Holgate who have conceded 39 goals in 24 games?


Yep. Go with what we have got. Or get someone who is better than mangala.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: dangermouse on January 31, 2018, 03:00:13 PM
Could Mangala be better than what we've got, quite possibly, let's face it our defence has been shite this season, lack of pace one of the reasons, Mangala is quick, athletic and powerfully. Looking through our central defenders, I can't see much of that, especially in one player. If he signs are we going to give him a chance, don't worry too much lads even if he is shite, we can just send him back....... Unlike some of our signings last year.

Hes left footed.... think about it...... Big Sams planning on playing him at left back. :(
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Glory on January 31, 2018, 03:09:22 PM
Letís hope itís Sam himself thatís leaving
Can take his mate Steve with him
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Ramjam on January 31, 2018, 03:11:29 PM
Can take his mate Steve with him
And wee Sammy and big Shakespeare
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 31, 2018, 03:13:12 PM
One in on loan? Mangala.
One out? Besic

Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Ramjam on January 31, 2018, 03:15:23 PM
One in on loan? Mangala.
One out? Besic
Is that fact?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 31, 2018, 03:16:34 PM
Is that fact?
Well no cos its not happened
It's my opinion
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on January 31, 2018, 03:18:11 PM
Word on the street @Django (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4371) ?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Ramjam on January 31, 2018, 03:18:21 PM
Well no cos its not happened
It's my opinion
Sorry Jimmy I mis read your quote
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Lxxx on January 31, 2018, 03:21:09 PM
Word on the street @Django (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4371) ?

Why you go and do that? Let us at least live in hope for the rest of the day that we're getting a bit of quality in at 5 to 11.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: TheTone on January 31, 2018, 03:21:57 PM
One in on loan? Mangala.
One out? Besic



that's it for the day

close thread
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 31, 2018, 03:25:02 PM
Not bringing in a LB could see us relegated. Sorry if that sounds dramatic, but itís true.

I saw an article recently about how our attacking play has collapsed since Baines got injured. Our left hand side is completely broken and opposing teams know it. A new LB would improve us all over the pitch.

Absolute clowns running our club. Whatís that saying - Ďyouíre only as strong as your weakest linkí? ...erm weíve got our 4th best RB playing LB...heís been there a good chunk of the season. It wouldnít even be acceptable for 1 game, let alone 15.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 31, 2018, 03:26:42 PM
Sorry Jimmy I mis read your quote
It's ok pal
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Cozzie on January 31, 2018, 03:32:07 PM
Not bringing in a LB could see us relegated. Sorry if that sounds dramatic, but itís true.

I saw an article recently about how our attacking play has collapsed since Baines got injured. Our left hand side is completely broken and opposing teams know it. A new LB would improve us all over the pitch.

Absolute clowns running our club. Whatís that saying - Ďyouíre only as strong as your weakest linkí? ...erm weíve got our 4th best RB playing LB...heís been there a good chunk of the season. It wouldnít even be acceptable for 1 game, let alone 15.


Not dramatic at all.

No need to worry though, we are bringing in the wonderful bambi on ice defender that is Mangala, despite having 5 Center backs at the club.

The sooner Walsh pisses off the better.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bigmanbob on January 31, 2018, 03:32:17 PM
Not bringing in a LB could see us relegated. Sorry if that sounds dramatic, but itís true.

I saw an article recently about how our attacking play has collapsed since Baines got injured. Our left hand side is completely broken and opposing teams know it. A new LB would improve us all over the pitch.

Absolute clowns running our club. Whatís that saying - Ďyouíre only as strong as your weakest linkí? ...erm weíve got our 4th best RB playing LB...heís been there a good chunk of the season. It wouldnít even be acceptable for 1 game, let alone 15.
Shouldn't Baines be back in a couple of weeks? I'm sure I read it was mid Feb?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 31, 2018, 03:32:50 PM

Not dramatic at all.

No need to worry though, we are bringing in the wonderful bambi on ice defender that is Mangala, despite having 5 Center backs at the club.

The sooner Walsh pisses off the better.
Not a chance this is Walsh, got Allardyce all over this
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Cozzie on January 31, 2018, 03:33:51 PM
Not a chance this is Walsh, got Allardyce all over this

Still think he should be to blame for the over all poor recruitment we have seen since he has come in, cant just be coincidence.

Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jamokachi on January 31, 2018, 03:34:39 PM
When City signed Mangala he was one of the most sought after defenders in the world. He's better than we have, and would be a great addition.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 03:35:50 PM
Failing to bring a leftback in during 2 transfer windows is an absolute disgrace
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 31, 2018, 03:36:51 PM
Still think he should be to blame for the over all poor recruitment we have seen since he has come in, cant just be coincidence.
Agree with that yes
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jamokachi on January 31, 2018, 03:37:07 PM
It's obvious we've got a deal lined up for Sessegnon in the summer. So little faith on here.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Ramjam on January 31, 2018, 03:40:03 PM
It's obvious we've got a deal lined up for Sessegnon in the summer. So little faith on here.
The way we have recruited lately are you sure itís not Ashley Cole
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bigmanbob on January 31, 2018, 03:41:38 PM
When City signed Mangala he was one of the most sought after defenders in the world.
Yes he was, but ask a city fan if he is now
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Ramjam on January 31, 2018, 03:43:08 PM
Yes he was, but ask a city fan if he is now
What would they know, theyíve only started watching football 10 years ago
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Ross on January 31, 2018, 03:43:40 PM
Mangala will do fine, add some much needed power and pace to our slow and weak back line.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 03:45:15 PM
Throw him straight in at Arsenal on Sat, give Abamayang a kick up the arse
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 04:02:24 PM
https://twitter.com/nsno_83/status/958630806414675968
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Lxxx on January 31, 2018, 04:03:07 PM
The way we have recruited lately are you sure it’s not Ashley Cole

I'd take Ashley Cole right now.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 31, 2018, 04:09:42 PM
We don't know who he intends pairing him up with though . At the minute and in order of how they have played this season it would be Holgate , Jagielka , Williams and Keane . In terms of experience it would be Jagielka , Williams , Keane and Holgate . However , I wouldn't say Mangala has looked any better than Jagielka , Williams , Holgate or Keane since he joined City . Think Moshiri , Walsh , Allardyce is the most clueless combination this club has ever had and that takes some doing .
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 04:10:18 PM
KLASSEN LOAN DEAL?

Napoli are closing in on a deal for Evertonís Davy Klaassen and are confident of getting the deal completed by the end of the day, according to Gazzetta dello Sport.


Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Lxxx on January 31, 2018, 04:16:27 PM
Mangala will probably want to go back to Valencia as they are desperate for a new defender apparently. Why would he want to come and play with this shower....
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Ramjam on January 31, 2018, 04:18:22 PM
Mangala will probably want to go back to Valencia as they are desperate for a new defender apparently. Why would he want to come and play with this shower....
Heís under the impression that we pay over 100,000 a week to shite players and Valencia donít
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: sam of the south on January 31, 2018, 04:18:54 PM
Mangala will probably want to go back to Valencia as they are desperate for a new defender apparently. Why would he want to come and play with this shower....

The only reason anyone has signed for us recently: a salary that is way higher than the player is worth.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jamokachi on January 31, 2018, 04:19:02 PM
Mangala will probably want to go back to Valencia as they are desperate for a new defender apparently. Why would he want to come and play with this shower....

Well he wouldn't have to move, to start with.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 04:20:37 PM
Mangala will probably want to go back to Valencia as they are desperate for a new defender apparently. Why would he want to come and play with this shower....

Same reason as what Walcott said when he signed, wants to play for Allardyce, nothing to do with the ridiculous wage at all
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: brap2 on January 31, 2018, 04:24:32 PM
Mangala isn’t garbage and would be a good signing. He’s also got a lot of what we’re missing.

Physically capable and will thrive in a more deep block defensive structure rather than front foot balling.

Edit : just want to point out that I did espouse this signing some time back.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Lxxx on January 31, 2018, 04:25:03 PM
Well he wouldn't have to move, to start with.

He's only going out on loan.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: duncandisorderly on January 31, 2018, 04:31:38 PM
Mangala is alright, got a mistake in him but hes strong and quick. Can also play left back so hopefully he'll be straight in the side instead of cuco.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jamokachi on January 31, 2018, 04:35:24 PM
He's only going out on loan.

Tongue firmly in cheek!
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on January 31, 2018, 04:44:11 PM
Malanga > Cuckoo

Iím in.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: piggypop on January 31, 2018, 05:03:50 PM
Mangala is alright, got a mistake in him but hes strong and quick. Can also play left back so hopefully he'll be straight in the side instead of cuco.
I dread to think how bad he would be at left back. He can be a lumbering oaf.

In saying that, he'll do a better job at centre back than Williams. I can't believe we have come to this though.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Lxxx on January 31, 2018, 05:06:14 PM
I dread to think how bad he would be at left back. He can be a lumbering oaf.

In saying that, he'll do a better job at centre back than Williams. I can't believe we have come to this though.

Why? getting a £35m defender in on loan is hardly disastrous.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 05:09:45 PM
If us signing Mangala means we won't see Ashley Williams in an Everton shirt again then I'll be fucking delighted
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Fynci on January 31, 2018, 05:14:09 PM
Can Mangala play on the left? I thought he was just a centre back.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: School of Science on January 31, 2018, 05:24:18 PM
Hes left footed.... think about it...... Big Sams planning on playing him at left back. :(

Maybe at the moment, but think a bit longer term, Baines will be fit soon and surely in the summer we will buy a left back if not sooner.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: duncandisorderly on January 31, 2018, 05:24:30 PM
Yeah i'm sure he can, think he's played there the odd time for City

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/eliaquim-mangalas-curious-path-everton-14225587 (https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/eliaquim-mangalas-curious-path-everton-14225587)
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: dax78 on January 31, 2018, 05:30:47 PM
6 out - Barkley, Mirallis, Lennon, Sandro, Klaasen?, Besic? and
3 in   - Tuson, Wallcot, Mangala?

and we have not effected the playing side, are in a much better place, squad balance wise. Just goes to show the insanity of Koeman/Walsh transfer dealings.
I know Sam is not everyones cup of tea, but at least he's addressing the problems we have.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Lxxx on January 31, 2018, 05:37:05 PM
6 out - Barkley, Mirallis, Lennon, Sandro, Klaasen?, Besic? and
3 in   - Tuson, Wallcot, Mangala?

and we have not effected the playing side, are in a much better place, squad balance wise. Just goes to show the insanity of Koeman/Walsh transfer dealings.
I know Sam is not everyones cup of tea, but at least he's addressing the problems we have.

I'm all for giving credit where it's due but let's not go overboard on it. Anyone with half a brain would be able to see the horrible inbalance in the squad in terms of quality and number and start to address it. In fact he was probably told to sort it before he could add to it, so it's basic management.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 05:51:51 PM
https://twitter.com/SkyKaveh/status/958662742029856768
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Simon Paul on January 31, 2018, 05:56:06 PM
Genuinely not even botheted
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Cereal Killer on January 31, 2018, 05:57:21 PM
https://twitter.com/SkyKaveh/status/958662742029856768

The famous mysterious last minute club, not at all used to ever drive up fees/wages
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Bluedylan on January 31, 2018, 05:57:26 PM
Genuinely not even botheted

Same. Is it May yet?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: dax78 on January 31, 2018, 05:57:49 PM
I'm all for giving credit where it's due but let's not go overboard on it. Anyone with half a brain would be able to see the horrible inbalance in the squad in terms of quality and number and start to address it. In fact he was probably told to sort it before he could add to it, so it's basic management.


Agreed, but basic management has been missing for quite a while now.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 05:59:12 PM
Genuinely not even botheted

You OK hun?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Django on January 31, 2018, 06:03:22 PM
Word on the street @Django (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4371) ?

Nothing really. Mangala all but done and word of a CM but nothing concrete.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Mayor Farnum on January 31, 2018, 06:05:36 PM
Nothing really. Mangala all but done and word of a CM but nothing concrete.

You watching Sky too?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Django on January 31, 2018, 06:06:43 PM
You watching Sky too?

No I'm in work chief
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 06:08:40 PM
Nothing really. Mangala all but done and word of a CM but nothing concrete.

CM? Oh you little tease
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: TheRam on January 31, 2018, 06:12:37 PM
CM? Oh you little tease

Murmurings of Rodwell

https://twitter.com/stamp_1878/status/958669316223918080
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: DanDan on January 31, 2018, 06:16:20 PM
Murmurings of Rodwell

https://twitter.com/stamp_1878/status/958669316223918080

Rodwell  :headbang: lolol
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 31, 2018, 06:19:10 PM
Murmurings of Rodwell

https://twitter.com/stamp_1878/status/958669316223918080

HAHA good one
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Django on January 31, 2018, 06:26:55 PM
CM? Oh you little tease

Brozovic was being spoken about yesterday at FF so dunno if they'll move forward with it or not but he's obvs on the radar.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 31, 2018, 06:29:02 PM
Vinny saying Klaasen deal not far along but it would be loan with option to buy...... cant wait to see that figure
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: civemark on January 31, 2018, 06:29:53 PM
London evening standard reckon Everton enquired about Fulham's Tom Cairney yestersday
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on January 31, 2018, 06:31:16 PM
Murmurings of Rodwell



Is that the collective term?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 06:31:44 PM
McNulty reckons nobody else in after the Mangala deal is done, just further out goings
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Lxxx on January 31, 2018, 06:38:45 PM
McNulty reckons nobody else in after the Mangala deal is done, just further out goings

Not too bad then. Walsh has actually found us a left footed player, although he can't really play left back, but at least he's clearly found that filter on his scouting software so it's a start.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: kramer0 on January 31, 2018, 06:53:01 PM
London evening standard reckon Everton enquired about Fulham's Tom Cairney yestersday

He's the sort of midfielder I'd want. Keeps the ball well, creates chances.

Fulham aren't selling such an influential player in the middle of a promotion push though.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: brap2 on January 31, 2018, 06:58:05 PM
He's the sort of midfielder I'd want. Keeps the ball well, creates chances.

Fulham aren't selling such an influential player in the middle of a promotion push though.

Wonít get anywhere near him unfortunately
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: TheRam on January 31, 2018, 07:01:17 PM
Wonít get anywhere near him unfortunately

Nah, I reckon we're the biggest club that would come in for him. Could you see him going to any of the top 6?

Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: piggypop on January 31, 2018, 07:09:49 PM
Why? getting a £35m defender in on loan is hardly disastrous.
He was always ridiculously overpriced and I think they actually paid nearer to £42m.
I live in Manchester and always took the piss out of my City supporting mates that he wouldn't even get in our side, despite his cost. I think he's technically and positionally poor and a hoofer.
The 'disaster' is that he would probably come in and be our best defender now, even though there's been hardly any visible improvement in his game since he's come to England.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Lxxx on January 31, 2018, 07:21:45 PM
He was always ridiculously overpriced and I think they actually paid nearer to £42m.
I live in Manchester and always took the piss out of my City supporting mates that he wouldn't even get in our side, despite his cost. I think he's technically and positionally poor and a hoofer.
The 'disaster' is that he would probably come in and be our best defender now, even though there's been hardly any visible improvement in his game since he's come to England.

Therefore it'd be a decent loan signing then.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on January 31, 2018, 07:36:32 PM
Nah, I reckon we're the biggest club that would come in for him. Could you see him going to any of the top 6?



i could see him going to Chelsea-  might not play though-

but for the fee yes us


it is boring though-  all the hype-  but just repeat-repeat-repeat
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on January 31, 2018, 07:56:46 PM
Not too bad then. Walsh has actually found us a left footed player, although he can't really play left back, but at least he's clearly found that filter on his scouting software so it's a start.

Cant someone give him £40 to buy a copy of Football Manager and let him search for a left back in that

Player Search - Im looking for a...

first team player
defender left  - any role
VALUE is between £0 - £20m
Tackle, pass, crossing - 15
Age 20 - 28
SEARCH


Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: brap2 on January 31, 2018, 07:57:59 PM
Nah, I reckon we're the biggest club that would come in for him. Could you see him going to any of the top 6?



Was thinking he looked a bit spurs-y tbh, Fulham have ruled out a move tho apparently
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: loroloco on January 31, 2018, 08:03:53 PM
its been a strange january window. thereīs usually not much movement but thereīs been loads this time round. city apparently canīt afford more than 20m for sanchez and then a few days later buy laporte for 57m and offer 55m for mahrez. the aubamayang deal relying on 3 diffrent clubs agreeing to move players on. strange strange strange. on the plus side though weīve signed another 2 merceneries and a guy nobody had ever heard of before (although tbf iīm probably being a bit unfair on tossun). mangala and walcott though...

thereīmay be trouble ahead...
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: blueToffee on January 31, 2018, 08:20:02 PM
Still hoping for more than a CB in. Still amazed on the LB situation...I mean surely someone on loan even? There is no guarantee Baines will be ready or might have a reoccurrence as has happened before with other injuries he has returned from (probably too soon).

Really wanted someone in at CM too who can pass a ball in a forward direction.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Simon Paul on January 31, 2018, 08:20:52 PM
You OK hun?
Sound pal. Nice day in work, then home for smiles off the baby and then the match with good people

And only two weeks before I'm off work again for a week - I've only been back a week,  it's great this!
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: GLewis on January 31, 2018, 08:23:13 PM
If Mangala was really completely useless would he ever play for City, Valencia, Porto, France?

Obvious but no.

We need to take out the fact that if he has a disastrous game for City they donít have to play him the next game and that losing 1 game is a big deal to their season.

Thatís not the case with us, certainly not this season so the scrutiny isnít anywhere near or his relative competitors for the place will have bad games more frequently etc.

On loan too and it really isnít an issue.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 31, 2018, 08:29:46 PM
Fast, Strong (when he wants to be) decent in the air, better than what we have
If we can build his confidence up he will be a useful acquisition

Wonder if we will ask for a buy option? His days are obviously numbered at City
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Nick on January 31, 2018, 08:42:28 PM
Has Messi signed yet?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Bally on January 31, 2018, 08:51:51 PM
Is that the collective term?
Can you change your name to MmmBlueMartina every fucking time you change it the player or manager fucks off 😎
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on January 31, 2018, 09:00:46 PM
Can you change your name to MmmBlueMartina every fucking time you change it the player or manager fucks off 😎

Jimmywhack proposed that last week....

I do seem to pick em....
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Evertonian in NC on January 31, 2018, 09:14:06 PM
Sound pal. Nice day in work, then home for smiles off the baby and then the match with good people

And only two weeks before I'm off work again for a week - I've only been back a week,  it's great this!

You were right all along, with Koeman AND Allardyce.  Some people will just never forgive you for that.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 31, 2018, 09:23:58 PM
You were right all along, with Koeman AND Allardyce.  Some people will just never forgive you for that.

Haha are you joking. Some people will never forgive him for not rating a couple of managers? You're so bloody dramatic
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bacon sarnie on January 31, 2018, 09:55:09 PM
Mangala & Nasri spotted down the chippy on Scotland Road ten minutes ago........
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Morta75 on January 31, 2018, 09:58:15 PM
In:  Mangela, Seri

Out: Lookman, Williams, Schneiderlin, Klaassen, Besic

Lookman  and Klaassen out on loan, rest is sold.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bacon sarnie on January 31, 2018, 09:59:31 PM
KLASSEN LOAN DEAL?

Napoli are closing in on a deal for Evertonís Davy Klaassen and are confident of getting the deal completed by the end of the day, according to Gazzetta dello Sport.




No deal according to the Guardian but Sandro has fucked off on loan.

Don't mind me we're 5 hours behind here......
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: pjk on January 31, 2018, 10:18:19 PM
No deal according to the Guardian but Sandro has fucked off on loan.

Don't mind me we're 5 hours behind here......




Half each, if I send you the lottery numbers? :)
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: blueToffee on January 31, 2018, 10:22:39 PM
Talksport just said Mangala would be part of Mahrez deal. So we'd miss out.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 10:27:26 PM
Guns on Kirsty Gallagher, kin hell
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Simon Paul on January 31, 2018, 10:29:22 PM
Talksport just said Mangala would be part of Mahrez deal. So we'd miss out.
Everton aren't we
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 31, 2018, 10:32:48 PM
Jimmywhack proposed that last week....

I do seem to pick em....

MmmBlueMangala seems apt .
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 10:33:54 PM
Talksport just said Mangala would be part of Mahrez deal. So we'd miss out.

Alan Irwin says otherwise
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: TheTone on January 31, 2018, 10:34:28 PM
Guns on Kirsty Gallagher, kin hell

sexist mate

she is doing a great job presenting on transfer deadline day, very talented lady

hope she's getting the same wedge as Jim White or I'll be proper fuming
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Evertonian in NC on January 31, 2018, 10:35:05 PM
Everton aren't we

I want this on my cremation ash receptacle.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: blueski on January 31, 2018, 10:46:32 PM
how does the game play into all of this; this mean if we haven't signed anyone by the kick we're done?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 31, 2018, 10:52:29 PM
how does the game play into all of this; this mean if we haven't signed anyone by the kick we're done?
The backroom staff conduct the transfers. Sam will just give a yes or no. He can do that with his Bluetooth headset, mid game.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Outworlder47 on January 31, 2018, 10:55:12 PM
how does the game play into all of this; this mean if we haven't signed anyone by the kick we're done?

Would assume that targets would have been identified and contact initiated before the match. So it's possible that we could hear something during the match, though probably more in the realm of outgoing than incoming.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bluenuck on January 31, 2018, 10:59:53 PM
Sky saying it's a done deal between clubs.

Just up to the player
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 31, 2018, 10:59:55 PM
Thereís still 6 hours until deadline. Still plenty of time...right lads?...lads...?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 31, 2018, 11:02:20 PM
It could be a case of Mangala being asked to do too much with the ball? Maybe heís just a decent, meat and potatoes defender and not a ball-playing one?

Apologies if this has been said, just jumped into the thread.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Lxxx on January 31, 2018, 11:03:39 PM
The backroom staff conduct the transfers. Sam will just give a yes or no. He can do that with his Bluetooth headset, mid game.

In fact I did see an interview once where he said that due to the advances in sports science and technology, which he pioneered, you can actually manage a game of football in England, via a Bluetooth headset and a member of staff sat in the stands, from a sports bar in the Algarve. Amazing stuff.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Shropshire Blue on January 31, 2018, 11:13:58 PM
It genuinely must be a nightmare for clubs - it's like a giant jigsaw but.with the pieces scattered around the world!
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on January 31, 2018, 11:14:21 PM
sexist mate

she is doing a great job presenting on transfer deadline day, very talented lady

hope she's getting the same wedge as Jim White or I'll be proper fuming


Girl power!!
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bacon sarnie on January 31, 2018, 11:20:59 PM



Half each, if I send you the lottery numbers? :)

Get em sent mate. Same with the footie scores and the horse racing. We could make a fortune. Don't tell anyone!

Do they still do The Pools and Spot The Ball over there like?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Confucius on January 31, 2018, 11:22:12 PM
I want this on my cremation ash receptacle.

It would be spelt wrong
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bacon sarnie on January 31, 2018, 11:25:32 PM
I want this on my cremation ash receptacle.

Got that on the inside of my bog seat cover.

Use this as well   https://www.riteaid.com/shop/2000-flushes-toilet-bowl-cleaner-automatic-blue-plus-bleach-2-tablet-system-3-5-oz-100-g-4703632

Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bluenuck on January 31, 2018, 11:25:50 PM
If Mangala does come are we playing him on the left?? Haven't seen him that much but from what i have he doesn't really seem like a left back.

Or do we go to 3 at the back with him on the left???
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Cereal Killer on January 31, 2018, 11:26:44 PM
In fact I did see an interview once where he said that due to the advances in sports science and technology, which he pioneered, you can actually manage a game of football in England, via a Bluetooth headset and a member of staff sat in the stands, from a sports bar in the Algarve. Amazing stuff.

Or from a golf course in Spain.... maybe Koeman was ahead of the game....
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: pjk on January 31, 2018, 11:29:03 PM
Get em sent mate. Same with the footie scores and the horse racing. We could make a fortune. Don't tell anyone!

Do they still do The Pools and Spot The Ball over there like?




If only!! :woohoo:
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: velimski on January 31, 2018, 11:30:42 PM
If Mangala does come are we playing him on the left?? Haven't seen him that much but from what i have he doesn't really seem like a left back.

Or do we go to 3 at the back with him on the left???

I don't think I've ever seen him play left back, but can assure you he'd be a better option than Cuco.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Evertonian in NC on January 31, 2018, 11:31:18 PM
If Mangala does come are we playing him on the left?? Haven't seen him that much but from what i have he doesn't really seem like a left back.

Or do we go to 3 at the back with him on the left???

3 at the back would help Holgate out quite a bit, but still don't know that we have anyone really capable of playing the middle role halfway capably.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 31, 2018, 11:33:03 PM
I don't know how vocal mangala is but the thought of
Coleman Holgate mangala and a fucking decent left back

Isn't that bad, lots of pace, agility, strength and quality

Shoukd help us actually move up the pitch as well

I've just took a load of positivity
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bluenuck on January 31, 2018, 11:35:36 PM
I don't think I've ever seen him play left back, but can assure you he'd be a better option than Cuco.

It will still be unbalanced though. Sure, he'll have a left foot and be a decent defender out there, but he won't get up the pitch.

We need a left footed left wing back. I guess it's really hard to find one.... ???
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Confucius on January 31, 2018, 11:36:39 PM
Have to get him. Something needs to happen with the defence
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Toffee1 on January 31, 2018, 11:38:59 PM
Dharmesh Sheth is Sky's version of the water boy.

Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: TheTone on January 31, 2018, 11:45:21 PM
Girl power!!

Er

The absolute massive cans on Nathalie Sawyer earlier though

Kin hell
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: kramer0 on January 31, 2018, 11:55:18 PM
I don't know how vocal mangala is but the thought of
Coleman Holgate mangala and a fucking decent left back

Isn't that bad, lots of pace, agility, strength and quality

Shoukd help us actually move up the pitch as well

I've just took a load of positivity

Where is this decent left back you speak of?

Asking for a friend. Letís call him S. Walsh. No, no, too obvious. Steve W.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Ross on February 01, 2018, 12:02:39 AM
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Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 01, 2018, 12:08:59 AM
Where is this decent left back you speak of?

Asking for a friend. Let's call him S. Walsh. No, no, too obvious. Steve W.
Yeah I know
Baines fit Would be sound in that tbh, mangala would cover

Been told garbutt will never play for us again.... What a bellend he is
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: kramer0 on February 01, 2018, 12:11:24 AM
Yeah I know
Baines fit Would be sound in that tbh, mangala would cover

Been told garbutt will never play for us again.... What a bellend he is

Do we have any idea where Baines is fitness-wise?

Even if he doesn't get into the final third like he used to, his passing would be pretty useful right now. Everything we do down the left dies with Cuco at the moment.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Toffee1 on February 01, 2018, 12:15:45 AM
Do we have any idea where Baines is fitness-wise?

Even if he doesn't get into the final third like he used to, his passing would be pretty useful right now. Everything we do down the left dies with Cuco at the moment.

Take this with a pinch of salt but had a look at one fo those football injury sites and it says he has a calf strain with no return date.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: sam of the south on February 01, 2018, 12:16:11 AM
Yeah I know
Baines fit Would be sound in that tbh, mangala would cover

Been told garbutt will never play for us again.... What a bellend he is

Oh wow, what was said about Garbutt?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Toffee1 on February 01, 2018, 12:24:11 AM
Sky really are sad - they now have a video of Jim White eating a sandwich - what next, him sitting on the bog tweeting?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: School of Science on February 01, 2018, 12:24:14 AM
Er

The absolute massive cans on Nathalie Sawyer earlier though

Kin hell


I know pure perfection, like playdo, shaped, well rounded, it must of took hours to cram them into that tight red dress...... Have we signed anyone yet ?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Shogun on February 01, 2018, 12:24:58 AM
Sky really are sad - they now have a video of Jim White eating a sandwich - what next, him sitting on the bog tweeting?

Breaking news from West Brom

Johnny Evans still staying at West Brom.

Well done sky.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Ross on February 01, 2018, 12:26:50 AM
Sky really are sad - they now have a video of Jim White eating a sandwich - what next, him sitting on the bog tweeting?

Theyíve also got one of him with Moshiri but they canít show it till after the watershed.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 01, 2018, 12:27:59 AM
Oh wow, what was said about Garbutt?
Attitude stinks
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: formerKHL on February 01, 2018, 12:29:11 AM
Turned sky on to see what was happening just as they introduced Phil Thompson...

Turned over ........
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Toffee1 on February 01, 2018, 12:30:18 AM
Theyíve also got one of him with Moshiri but they canít show it till after the watershed.

Was thinking they will probably have a clip of him on the phone and then another one straight after of Moshiri on the phone at the game tonight and spin it that they are talking during the game.

Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: stirlingblue on February 01, 2018, 12:33:19 AM
Attitude stinks

A lad who works for me went to school with him and theyíre mates on Facebook, said heís a twat who is just dicking around with the money he got at an early age
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Ross on February 01, 2018, 12:36:04 AM
Was thinking they will probably have a clip of him on the phone and then another one straight after of Moshiri on the phone at the game tonight and spin it that they are talking during the game.



Given past evidence I donít think theyíd need to fabricate anything so elaborate.

Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Heisenberg on February 01, 2018, 12:37:35 AM
Mangala, jusus. Our scouting network is badly shit
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Bob Sacamano on February 01, 2018, 12:51:06 AM
Attitude stinks

Like Iíve said. Heís more interested in buying his bird Mercs and making Instagram stories.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Escla on February 01, 2018, 12:52:46 AM
Mangala, jusus. Our scouting network is badly shit

Why ? Could be a good signing , do you know something we donít know ?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 01, 2018, 12:53:29 AM
Like Iíve said. Heís more interested in buying his bird Mercs and making Instagram stories.

Silly boy if it's true. Doubt we are paying him enough to be set for life. Could get his head down work hard in an enjoyable job and earn 10s of millions. Wouldn't even have to have a particularly fantastic career for that
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 01, 2018, 12:54:33 AM
Mangala, jusus. Our scouting network is badly shit

Least there's some potential there and getting someone at a low ebb so hopefully cheap if we choose to buy

Rather that than a Sigurdsson who's overpriced and good but never gonna be quite good enough
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: TheRam on February 01, 2018, 12:56:41 AM
Attitude stinks

In what way? Gone billy big bollocks?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on February 01, 2018, 12:59:02 AM
Like Iíve said. Heís more interested in buying his bird Mercs and making Instagram stories.

A mate of mine was travelling to London on the train during the summer, Garbutt was in the same carriage with his bird, the pair of them were with loud as fuck and filming each other doing various dares
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 01, 2018, 12:59:31 AM
In what way? Gone billy big bollocks?
Been Billy big bollocks since he got that five year deal.... Apparently. I'm passing on third information
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Bob Sacamano on February 01, 2018, 12:59:42 AM
Silly boy if it's true. Doubt we are paying him enough to be set for life. Could get his head down work hard in an enjoyable job and earn 10s of millions. Wouldn't even have to have a particularly fantastic career for that

Yeah I think Iíve seen her post a couple of Mercs and gushed about him over them. Theyíre always removed a few hours later though.

I follow all the wags. Iíve gotta make sure the lads are keeping in check and living clean.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Gash on February 01, 2018, 01:02:13 AM
Quote
Posted at 18:57
News from Everton...

Conor McNamara

BBC Radio 5 live commentator

Just spoke to Sam Allardyce in the tunnel at Goodison. He says five of his players have been approached by other clubs today, but none of them are going anywhere.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 01, 2018, 01:02:38 AM
Yeah I think I've seen her post a couple of Mercs and gushed about him over them. They're always removed a few hours later though.

I follow all the wags. I've gotta make sure the lads are keeping in check and living clean.
It's good job someone follows them, these lads would be off the rails otherwise :)
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Tinga on February 01, 2018, 01:03:05 AM
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Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bluenuck on February 01, 2018, 01:03:27 AM
Why ? Could be a good signing , do you know something we donít know ?

We need a left back?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Goaljira on February 01, 2018, 01:06:46 AM
Has Besic gone?  Not seen or heard him mentioned at all today.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bluenuck on February 01, 2018, 01:31:31 AM
Lookman out on loan to Leipzig.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 01, 2018, 01:32:36 AM
wow https://twitter.com/Everton/status/958784630584500225
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jamokachi on February 01, 2018, 01:33:04 AM
That Lookman loan is a bit left-field. Good experience for the lad, hope he gets plenty of game time.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: mikey_blue on February 01, 2018, 01:33:08 AM
wow https://twitter.com/Everton/status/958784630584500225

What the fuck...
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bluenuck on February 01, 2018, 01:33:31 AM
Why do I have a feeling we're going to lose Lookman?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: stirlingblue on February 01, 2018, 01:33:31 AM
Lookman out on loan to Leipzig.

Really weird one, theyíre probably better than us so if he can get a game there shouldnít he get one here?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bluenuck on February 01, 2018, 01:34:31 AM
Really weird one, theyíre probably better than us so if he can get a game there shouldnít he get one here?

He's gonna love it there, too. Bundesliga is a great league for players like him, and I think he'll fit right in on that team.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Gash on February 01, 2018, 01:34:36 AM
Hopefully he gets plenty game time there. Best thing for him, the odd appearance here and there isn't helping anyone and he's not ready to feature regularly.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: stirlingblue on February 01, 2018, 01:35:54 AM
He's gonna love it there, too. Bundesliga is a great league for players like him, and I think he'll fit right in on that team.

The club is a shambles, what on earth are we doing?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bluestevie on February 01, 2018, 01:36:12 AM
Must have got that done very close to deadline, same as Dortmund with Batshuayi as their window shut at 5
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: School of Science on February 01, 2018, 01:37:07 AM
That's three wingers not available at the moment, cuts down our width options.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on February 01, 2018, 01:37:54 AM
Allardyce is a twat

https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/958784195605786625
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: KingdingalingNL on February 01, 2018, 01:40:11 AM
Good move for him, but it pisses me off as he should of been playing more for us! At least he brought pace and also a threat when he played. This leaves us with less options than we already had!!!
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bluenuck on February 01, 2018, 01:40:40 AM
Hopefully he gets plenty game time there. Best thing for him, the odd appearance here and there isn't helping anyone and he's not ready to feature regularly.

The fear I have is he's not gonna want to come back. I fear we're going to lose him.

Don't ask me why I feel like we're going to, but I just got a bad feeling we're going to.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on February 01, 2018, 01:40:49 AM
He'll come back an even better player under a new better manager.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: BlueForYou on February 01, 2018, 01:41:44 AM
Very unsettling

We are an unsettled club

Not good, nervous
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Confucius on February 01, 2018, 01:42:18 AM
How is Robles still here? Hasn't his contract run out?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Heisenberg on February 01, 2018, 01:42:21 AM
So now thats Sandro, Klassen and Lookman who arent good enough for us, but are good enough for teams better than us.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Ridge on February 01, 2018, 01:42:59 AM
Think Lookman is because the Klaassen deal fell through, presumably we've got something else sorted.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Waltzer on February 01, 2018, 01:43:13 AM
Why have they let lookman go. He said he wouldn't with Lennon going!
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 01, 2018, 01:43:43 AM
He'll come back an even better player under a new better manager.

IF we change managers in May like any sane person would do.  Otherwise...he's gone. 
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Ross on February 01, 2018, 01:43:55 AM
Iíd be looking to leave in Lookmans position if Allardyce was in charge.

Same all the others to be honest.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Danny on February 01, 2018, 01:44:04 AM
He'll come back an even better player under a new better manager.

Not so sure mate, the German clubs are targeting the talented but under utilised English players for these deals, not so they can loan them for 6 months but so they can develop them for 2-3 years then flip them back to the premier league for a fortune.

A Champions League Bundesliga team isn't loaning Lookman because they need a winger as cover for 6 months.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: sam of the south on February 01, 2018, 01:44:06 AM
Good move for him, but it pisses me off as he should of been playing more for us! At least he brought pace and also a threat when he played. This leaves us with less options than we already had!!!

Looks like we are going to continue labouring with either woefully unfit Bolasie or criminally out of position Sigurdsson out wide every game.

Joy.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Outworlder47 on February 01, 2018, 01:44:28 AM
Lookman loan is odd. Leipzig are just two points off 2nd in the league, and have Bruma and Sabitzer ensconced on the wings. Sabitzer was being mentioned as a potential City target, but that's all gone quiet. Not much depth behind those two on the wings, though.

Leipzig do have a Europa League tie, but as it's against Napoli they could be out of that competition soon. Leipzig play either a 4-4-2 with two deeper pivots, or an attacking 4-3-3. Will be interesting to see how Lookman gets on.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: eame on February 01, 2018, 01:44:42 AM
You know what does my head in is Big Sam saying he wasn't going anywhere, then today he fucks off. Smacks of him not knowing what the fucks going on which is embarrassing..
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on February 01, 2018, 01:45:09 AM
You know what does my head in is Big Sam saying he wasn't going anywhere, then today he fucks off. Smacks of him not knowing what the fucks going on which is embarrassing..

Exactly
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 01, 2018, 01:46:31 AM
Lookman won't get game time there will he?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 01, 2018, 01:47:08 AM
Iíd be looking to leave in Lookmans position if Allardyce was in charge.

Same all the others to be honest.

What kind of creative player would want to be here?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bluenuck on February 01, 2018, 01:48:19 AM
Lookman loan is odd. Leipzig are just two points off 2nd in the league, and have Bruma and Sabitzer ensconced on the wings. Sabitzer was being mentioned as a potential City target, but that's all gone quiet. Not much depth behind those two on the wings, though.

Leipzig do have a Europa League tie, but as it's against Napoli they could be out of that competition soon. Leipzig play either a 4-4-2 with two deeper pivots, or an attacking 4-3-3. Will be interesting to see how Lookman gets on.

Forsberg is injured right now. Lookman could just be a reinforcement if another goes down.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: BlueForYou on February 01, 2018, 01:48:40 AM
Benitez called us a small club - small minded, anyway....................... ......
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Ross on February 01, 2018, 01:50:21 AM
What kind of creative player would want to be here?

Beyond me.

Wait till the summer exodus starts, finch farm will be a ghost town.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bluenuck on February 01, 2018, 01:52:07 AM
Beyond me.

Wait till the summer exodus starts, finch farm will be a ghost town.

gonna have to fill that taxi cab up
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jamokachi on February 01, 2018, 01:53:58 AM
The Lookman deal isn't that odd, we've sent him out on loan to get him up to speed. He's a kid learning his trade. All good.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 01, 2018, 01:54:18 AM
Lookman out on loan to Leipzig.

What an odd move. Do we think we are looking to move him on
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 01, 2018, 01:54:37 AM
Beyond me.

Wait till the summer exodus starts, finch farm will be a ghost town.

Yeah.  We have to act swiftly and decisively come May.  The notion that we can let Alladryce OR Walsh continue into October is terrifying.  The die (death) could be cast by then, in terms of relegation.  I think people are fooling themselves to think another "panic cycle" couldn't do just that (following a creativity draining summer window).
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: fubarruk on February 01, 2018, 01:54:59 AM
Allardyce says Lookman goes nowhere as we need cover, 2 days later he's gone.

Allardyce says Rooney and Sig can't play together in same team, they both start tonight.

Clueless clown has no idea what he's doing, the club is in absolute shambles, fucking lunatics running the asylum.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 01, 2018, 02:00:21 AM
The Lookman deal isn't that odd, we've sent him out on loan to get him up to speed. He's a kid learning his trade. All good.
It is odd in that we've loaned him to a side who are better than us

He can't get a game for us but we expect him to get time at a better side than us??
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 01, 2018, 02:05:53 AM
It is odd in that we've loaned him to a side who are better than us

He can't get a game for us but we expect him to get time at a better side than us??

You can't imagine they'd be interested in taking such a young inexperienced player on loan if there wasn't a good chance they could buy him
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: blue slug on February 01, 2018, 02:06:46 AM
It is odd in that we've loaned him to a side who are better than us

He can't get a game for us but we expect him to get time at a better side than us??

Nothing surprises me with Everton at the minute itís just shite
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 01, 2018, 02:07:46 AM
It is odd in that we've loaned him to a side who are better than us

He can't get a game for us but we expect him to get time at a better side than us??

Presumably, they aren't being run by morons?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 01, 2018, 02:08:05 AM
You can't imagine they'd be interested in taking such a young inexperienced player on loan if there wasn't a good chance they could buy him
For a shit price, they dont buy big in Germany
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bigac on February 01, 2018, 02:18:03 AM
Muppet show!
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Cozzie on February 01, 2018, 02:30:08 AM
I want us to sign Jonathan Tah.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Gash on February 01, 2018, 02:43:05 AM
Mangala having a medical according to SSN.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 01, 2018, 02:43:30 AM
Mangala having a medical according to SSN.
Since 4am?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Confucius on February 01, 2018, 02:45:40 AM
Since 4am?
he does have long legs to be fair
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Silas on February 01, 2018, 02:47:09 AM
I want us to sign Jonathan Tah.

Well since you asked so nicely
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Escla on February 01, 2018, 02:50:55 AM
We need a left back?

Donít disagree, why does that make Mangela a bad signing ? If we had signed Messi would you have said fucks sake Messi we need a left back ?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 01, 2018, 03:03:00 AM
Donít disagree, why does that make Mangela a bad signing ? If we had signed Messi would you have said fucks sake Messi we need a left back ?

Think Lionel could make a reasonable wingback
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jamokachi on February 01, 2018, 03:04:17 AM
It is odd in that we've loaned him to a side who are better than us

He can't get a game for us but we expect him to get time at a better side than us??

But the Bundesliga isn't better than the Premiership. He'll get more time to learn in that league.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 01, 2018, 03:07:07 AM
But the Bundesliga isn't better than the Premiership. He'll get more time to learn in that league.
They are challenging for champs league
They cant take any risks
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: april on February 01, 2018, 03:42:33 AM
Think Lionel could make a reasonable wingback
Heíll run all night long.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Escla on February 01, 2018, 03:46:27 AM
Presumably, they aren't being run by morons?

God you are such a negative twat ! Btw , have you actually ever been to a match ?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bigac on February 01, 2018, 03:52:09 AM
Lookman going has pissed me off tonight, but I take small compensation in reading this "Chelsea make a change as Ross Barkley, who was largely anonymous, is replaced by Cesc Fabregas."
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 01, 2018, 03:54:08 AM
Have we signed mangala
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 01, 2018, 03:54:46 AM
God you are such a negative twat ! Btw , have you actually ever been to a match ?

Irrelevant question that fella
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: UnsyisaRhino on February 01, 2018, 04:00:09 AM
God you are such a negative twat ! Btw , have you actually ever been to a match ?

Calm dowm super fan
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on February 01, 2018, 04:02:00 AM
Stop fighting guys...the enemyís out there maaaaaan, out there!!!
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Ravardo on February 01, 2018, 04:04:31 AM
Does anyone else think bringing mangala in will be the end of holgate seeing as keane seemed to have a decent game aswell
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bluenuck on February 01, 2018, 04:14:01 AM
But the Bundesliga isn't better than the Premiership. He'll get more time to learn in that league.

That's very arguable.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Tinga on February 01, 2018, 04:15:42 AM
Sooooo...Mangina?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on February 01, 2018, 04:16:32 AM
https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/958825214636449794
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: blueski on February 01, 2018, 04:16:36 AM
got to be the dullest deadline day thread on here in ages with only 19 pages
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: toffee_scot on February 01, 2018, 04:17:13 AM
As long as Lookman gets more game time then that's the biggest thing. It was obvious the current manager didn't feel comfortable playing him.

As for cover, well we have Walcott, Bolasie, Vlasic plus whoever the manager is seems to like utilising either Sigurdsson or Rooney on the wings.

When Lookman comes back, hopefully he will be a better player and will be very much in the next Everton manager's plan.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: keverton1971 on February 01, 2018, 04:17:37 AM
http://the4thofficial.net/2018/01/everton-sign-26-yo-defensive-beast-manchester-city-look-line/
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: sam of the south on February 01, 2018, 04:20:21 AM
https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/958825214636449794

Very strange.

If he didn't want him to go, just say no, like Zammo
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: toffee_scot on February 01, 2018, 04:20:54 AM
Does anyone else think bringing mangala in will be the end of holgate seeing as keane seemed to have a decent game aswell

I'm actually wondering if...bizarrely...Mangala will be brought in to play left back since he is left footed. Otherwise with Williams, Holgate, Jags and Keane in the squad plus Funes Mori coming back from injury then I don't see why we are bringing in another central defender at this time.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jamokachi on February 01, 2018, 04:22:54 AM
That's very arguable.

It's not, in the slightest.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on February 01, 2018, 04:26:59 AM
Wonder who the 5 players who want out are then?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Bally on February 01, 2018, 04:28:16 AM
Mangala & Nasri spotted down the chippy on Scotland Road ten minutes ago........
That'd be some sort of miracle, there's fuck all on Scotty anymore
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: blueski on February 01, 2018, 04:28:22 AM
SSN to discuss Mangala after the break
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on February 01, 2018, 04:29:02 AM
https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/958825214636449794

can't see this being true -  he said players would  only be going out if it was right for the club, then for the player--just say no- 

or at least find a club over here surely
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: burkey17 on February 01, 2018, 04:29:37 AM
Whatís all this about?!?! Modern fíin footballers eh....take note of their names and get rid-lol!
Loans...ok fíin Coventry then!
https://mobile.twitter.com/philkecho/status/958823916935540736
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on February 01, 2018, 04:30:37 AM
Reckon the five must be Lookman, Schneiderlin, Davies, Niasse and Klaassen.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: TheTone on February 01, 2018, 04:31:22 AM
SSN to discuss Mangala after the break

Clutching arnt they
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Lxxx on February 01, 2018, 04:31:52 AM
Wonder who the 5 players who want out are then?

Vlasic, Lookman, maybe Schneiderlin....err...Tosun?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: blueToffee on February 01, 2018, 04:32:46 AM
Reckon the five must be Lookman, Schneiderlin, Davies, Niasse and Klaassen.

DCL maybe. Robles? I doubt it'd be Niasse or Davies.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Goaljira on February 01, 2018, 04:33:49 AM
Reckon the five must be Lookman, Schneiderlin, Davies, Niasse and Klaassen.

Besic
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: ajax_andy on February 01, 2018, 04:35:02 AM
5 players wanted to leave on loan, one of them left even though the manager told him it was a bad move, must have just been desperate to go anywhere to get away from the club.

Doesn't exactly give the impression of harmony in the dressing room!
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on February 01, 2018, 04:35:38 AM
still waiting ssn -  where's are segment on ssn-  ffs
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: TheRam on February 01, 2018, 04:36:18 AM
We signed mangala or what?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Escla on February 01, 2018, 04:36:31 AM
As long as Lookman gets more game time then that's the biggest thing. It was obvious the current manager didn't feel comfortable playing him.

As for cover, well we have Walcott, Bolasie, Vlasic plus whoever the manager is seems to like utilising either Sigurdsson or Rooney on the wings.

When Lookman comes back, hopefully he will be a better player and will be very much in the next Everton manager's plan.
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Not only the current manager, also the previous manager and the stand in manager.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on February 01, 2018, 04:36:52 AM
yeah forgot about Besic and Vlasic.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: sam of the south on February 01, 2018, 04:37:18 AM
Besic, Klaassen, Lookman, Vlasic, and Holgate? (Might explain Holgate's omission 🤔)
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: blueski on February 01, 2018, 04:37:39 AM
still waiting ssn -  where's are segment on ssn-  ffs
jim white must be waiting for return to his text to moshiri
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Toffee1 on February 01, 2018, 04:38:35 AM
Have some of the sky sports reporters been on the booze this evening - the guy outside West Ham's stadium sounded well sloshed?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Goaljira on February 01, 2018, 04:39:29 AM
5 players wanted to leave on loan, one of them left even though the manager told him it was a bad move, must have just been desperate to go anywhere to get away from the club.

Doesn't exactly give the impression of harmony in the dressing room!


Or that we've used 37 players this season and simple mathematics has made players realise their game time will be extremely limited under the gravy drinking dinosaur and just want to play football?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Lxxx on February 01, 2018, 04:42:58 AM
5 players wanted to leave on loan, one of them left even though the manager told him it was a bad move, must have just been desperate to go anywhere to get away from the club.

Doesn't exactly give the impression of harmony in the dressing room!


Problem is and always has been too many players. If you have over 30 in your squad a fair % will be wanting to play some football.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: howard1334 on February 01, 2018, 04:43:42 AM
You can't imagine they'd be interested in taking such a young inexperienced player on loan if there wasn't a good chance they could buy him

That would be crazy disappointing if we sold him, and there has been no indication that there is any clause allowing them to purchase him this summer.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: TheRam on February 01, 2018, 04:45:25 AM
Allardyce has come out slagging lookman and klassen?

Apparently said he's dissapointed that klassen turned down a move to Napoli and is also dissapointed at lookman for forcing through the move.

Don't blame lookman at all. Stay on the bench here, or got to a champions league club built around developing young players?

Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on February 01, 2018, 04:45:44 AM
Sky now showing pictures of pets dressed up
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: howard1334 on February 01, 2018, 04:46:03 AM
Think Lookman is because the Klaassen deal fell through, presumably we've got something else sorted.

Kinda makes you think we might be doing something wrong, huh.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 01, 2018, 04:46:25 AM
Allardyce has come out slagging lookman and klassen?

Apparently said he's dissapointed that klassen turned down a move to Napoli and is also dissapointed at lookman for forcing through the move.

Don't blame lookman at all. Stay on the bench here, or got to a champions league club built around developing young players?
Cringing
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: ajax_andy on February 01, 2018, 04:46:50 AM
Or that we've used 37 players this season and simple mathematics has made players realise their game time will be extremely limited under the gravy drinking dinosaur and just want to play football?

Players in the squad though, so that's I'm guessing first team + bench.

You'd hope all the first 11 would want to be here, the bench all ready to fight for their place and believe the manager will give them an opportunity to do so.

I get those not even making the bench wanting out but that's not what we're talking about unless I'm mistaken?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: howard1334 on February 01, 2018, 04:46:52 AM
Allardyce has come out slagging lookman and klassen?

Apparently said he's dissapointed that klassen turned down a move to Napoli and is also dissapointed at lookman for forcing through the move.

Don't blame lookman at all. Stay on the bench here, or got to a champions league club built around developing young players?



This sort of stuff is usually kept under wraps. Odd that he is speaking out about it.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Goaljira on February 01, 2018, 04:48:03 AM
Allardyce has come out slagging lookman and klassen?

Apparently said he's dissapointed that klassen turned down a move to Napoli and is also dissapointed at lookman for forcing through the move.

Don't blame lookman at all. Stay on the bench here, or got to a champions league club built around developing young players?

Gravy tits departure can't come soon enough.  He's going to destroy the next few years development if he doesnt get reigned in.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on February 01, 2018, 04:49:18 AM
Called Klaassen silly, called Lookman stubborn
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Goaljira on February 01, 2018, 04:49:27 AM
Players in the squad though, so that's I'm guessing first team + bench.

You'd hope all the first 11 would want to be here, the bench all ready to fight for their place and believe the manager will give them an opportunity to do so.

I get those not even making the bench wanting out but that's not what we're talking about unless I'm mistaken?

I took squad as in 'players still here in the playing squad', as in the full 30+?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: TheRam on February 01, 2018, 04:49:29 AM
This sort of stuff is usually kept under wraps. Odd that he is speaking out about it.

He's slagging a player for wanting to stay and fight for his place, the slagging another for wanting to get what is a much better move.

Very strange stuff that will just alienate the players.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Mayor Farnum on February 01, 2018, 04:52:24 AM
Oooo Sam you can't slag off the previous darlings.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: blueToffee on February 01, 2018, 04:53:22 AM
5 players wanted to leave on loan, one of them left even though the manager told him it was a bad move, must have just been desperate to go anywhere to get away from the club.

Doesn't exactly give the impression of harmony in the dressing room!


Nah, it's fair enough that Lookman wants to play. I'd kinda be more concerned if he didn't. A player that age shouldn't be spending weeks on the bench, far better to be out on loan.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Ross on February 01, 2018, 04:54:00 AM
Canít somebody just chuck a Fray Bentos at him to distract him from talking shit
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on February 01, 2018, 04:54:53 AM
Cant get me head around it all. Strange tings a gwarn at finch farm/ GP.

Players we want to leave, dont want to leave and vice versa.

Sam seemingly managing with his hands tied behind his back and no long term job prospects and throwing snidey comments about admitting as much.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: blueToffee on February 01, 2018, 04:55:45 AM
Cant get me head around it all. Strange tings a gwarn at finch farm/ GP.

Players we want to leave, dont want to leave and vice versa.

Sam seemingly managing with his hands tied behind his back and no long term job prospects and throwing snidey comments about admitting as much.

Sooner the season is done, the better.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Zoolander on February 01, 2018, 04:56:22 AM
Sounded more like SA was against Lookman going to Leipzig rather than just going. He said he had other more local loan options but he (lookman) chose them.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Trowel on February 01, 2018, 04:58:32 AM
https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/958836533750108160
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Ross on February 01, 2018, 05:00:06 AM
Canít wait till Moshiri rings Jim White up in a minute and tells us all whatís been going on.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: TheRam on February 01, 2018, 05:00:38 AM
https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/958836533750108160

Ahhh man, I was just starting to like Everton there.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on February 01, 2018, 05:02:58 AM
switched to MOTD we not got Mangala done
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bluenuck on February 01, 2018, 05:04:24 AM
We signed mangala or what?

Do we need him?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: TheRam on February 01, 2018, 05:05:25 AM
Do we need him?

Yeah. Still not convinced on any of our centre halves myself.

Keane shit himself at 2-1 tonight.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: brap2 on February 01, 2018, 05:05:29 AM
If lookman gets minutes sound but as a general rule I would say if Leipzig want your young player you should have another look.

Wish allardici wasn’t so openly confrontational like. Big part of bringing talented young players in these days is being a positive place for developing (like leipzig actually - ain’t surprised lookman wanted to go) and being super confrontational and hanging players out to dry and not playing youngsters aren’t great signals to put out.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Goaljira on February 01, 2018, 05:05:35 AM
Hows it took us all day to sort a loan?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 01, 2018, 05:06:21 AM
Do we need him?
Be nice to have a strong and quick left footed centre back yeah
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on February 01, 2018, 05:07:51 AM
Mangala still not done but the deal sheet was submitted before 11 so got another 2 hours to finalize the loan
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bluenuck on February 01, 2018, 05:08:07 AM
If lookman gets minutes sound but as a general rule I would say if Leipzig want your young player you should have another look.

I think he's gonna love it there.

Been watching a lot of Bundesliga the last 2 seasons and Lookman will fit right in.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: blueToffee on February 01, 2018, 05:08:39 AM
Hmm...transfer window has shut...I wonder if we got Mangala done on time.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bluenuck on February 01, 2018, 05:10:19 AM
Yeah. Still not convinced on any of our centre halves myself.

Keane shit himself at 2-1 tonight.

True.

But I mean why? Without him we're finishing with ~40-45 points this season, and then we need a summer overhaul.

What's the point for 13 games?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: blueToffee on February 01, 2018, 05:12:22 AM
True.

But I mean why? Without him we're finishing with ~40-45 points this season, and then we need a summer overhaul.

What's the point for 13 games?

I suppose the point would be if he plays well we have a better crack at signing him in the summer. We definitely need another CB.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: DanDan on February 01, 2018, 05:13:02 AM
Mangala number 13
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on February 01, 2018, 05:13:02 AM
True.

But I mean why? Without him we're finishing with ~40-45 points this season, and then we need a summer overhaul.

What's the point for 13 games?

Cos he's better than what we've got
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on February 01, 2018, 05:13:39 AM
waiting official paper work still----no13 shirt
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: blueski on February 01, 2018, 05:13:47 AM
Mangala done deal
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Ari on February 01, 2018, 05:14:36 AM
Yeah. Still not convinced on any of our centre halves myself.

Keane shit himself at 2-1 tonight.

Then we should support him and try to give him courage as we are supporters of Everton.  At least I will in my mind...(and I am crazy as you know)
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Gash on February 01, 2018, 05:15:13 AM
Sounded more like SA was against Lookman going to Leipzig rather than just going. He said he had other more local loan options but he (lookman) chose them.

Yeah, that was my reading of his comments. Sounded to me like there was other options and that the club think it'll be tough for a young lad to be alone in a country where he doesn't speak the language, which seems a perfectly reasonable explanation.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bluenuck on February 01, 2018, 05:16:46 AM
Cos he's better than what we've got

Awesome. So we might pick up a few more points then we would without him and finish 8-9th instead of 10th.

It just seems like a waste of time.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Alanvideo on February 01, 2018, 05:17:48 AM
Sounded more like SA was against Lookman going to Leipzig rather than just going. He said he had other more local loan options but he (lookman) chose them.
...................that's exactly what he said but apparently that counts as 'slagging off the player ' on here.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: blueToffee on February 01, 2018, 05:18:53 AM
Awesome. So we might pick up a few more points then we would without him and finish 8-9th instead of 10th.

It just seems like a waste of time.

OR we go on and finish 7th. Sign him and start next season with a functional CB partnership? I can't imagine we're bringing him in without some thought of trying to sign him long term.

Got to try and look for positives after this season :)
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bluenuck on February 01, 2018, 05:20:00 AM
OR we go on and finish 7th. Sign him and start next season with a functional CB partnership? I can't imagine we're bringing him in without some thought of trying to sign him long term.

Got to try and look for positives after this season :)

Alright alright.  :)
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: montanatoffeefan on February 01, 2018, 05:20:28 AM
Then we should support him and try to give him courage as we are supporters of Everton.  At least I will in my mind...(and I am crazy as you know)

That's poetry, Ari....of some sort. What sort, I don't know. But poetry.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: montanatoffeefan on February 01, 2018, 05:21:34 AM

....Got to try and look for positives after this season :)

The only nailed-on positive will be that after this season, this season will be over.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: toffee_scot on February 01, 2018, 05:23:16 AM
I understand the manager's comments about Lookman, it sounds like he had a few loan options closer to home but he chose RB Leipzig, I hope for his sake he settles, adapts and does well.

As for Klaassen, I think it is clear the manager doesn't want him at Everton. It's not often you hear a manager say ďWe're disappointed but he should be far more disappointed than us that he's still here and not playing in Napoli in the Italian league." The irony is Klaassen will probably still be at Everton long after Allardyce is asked to leave Everton.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Ari on February 01, 2018, 05:23:30 AM
That's poetry, Ari....of some sort. What sort, I don't know. But poetry.

Thank you.

Keane was clearly better tonight than he has been for a long time.  We should highlight that in our minds rather than to the "2-1" moment tonight when almost every member of the team was playing badly.  The summary of it is that Micheal Keane's confidence is coming back I hope.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: blargins on February 01, 2018, 05:24:35 AM
Yeah, that was my reading of his comments. Sounded to me like there was other options and that the club think it'll be tough for a young lad to be alone in a country where he doesn't speak the language, which seems a perfectly reasonable explanation.

Didn't work for Sandro.

I think Germany will be a different kettle of fish. Don't most German's speak English anyway?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 01, 2018, 05:24:56 AM
Got to say I think allardyce is right on lookman and so did everyone else when commenting on it being a strange move

Foreign country, different language, questionable if he'll get minutes. Surely all he's saying he advised him to pick a different option but he was stubborn and ultimately it was his decision.
Hardly slagged him off unless I'm completely misreading it

People on here said it was a strange move...... allardyce says it and he's a monster wanting to eat our prospects with gravy and wash it down with a pint of wine
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jamokachi on February 01, 2018, 05:25:20 AM
Yea, I don't think Sam is annoyed with Lookman for going out on loan, rather where he's decided to go. I wonder if he had a PL option?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: GLewis on February 01, 2018, 05:27:44 AM
Since havenít seen all comments about the loan in full so only going on the snippets here, so...

Re Klaassen if heís not gone somewhere decent where heíd play (and presumably theyíd pick up decent wedge of his wages) itís annoying, especially if heís not going to play here.

Re Lookman, he needs to play regularly.

If he doesnít get that at Leipzig, and theyíre good so no guarantee at all given his development needs, then not sure what the benefit is compared to going somewhere here on loan where any minute is at least more relevant to the future (with us hopefully).

Not everything the club does is disastrous and not everything a player does is selfless or in the clubís interests.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Ari on February 01, 2018, 05:28:06 AM
Got to say I think allardyce is right on lookman and so did everyone else when commenting on it being a strange move

Foreign country, different language, questionable if he'll get minutes. Surely all he's saying he advised him to pick a different option but he was stubborn and ultimately it was his decision.
Hardly slagged him off unless I'm completely misreading it

People on here said it was a strange move...... allardyce says it and he's a monster wanting to eat our prospects with gravy and wash it down with a pint of wine

Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: blueToffee on February 01, 2018, 05:28:44 AM
Hopefully Mangala deal goes through, still seems mad we didn't sign a LB. Even if just a loan.

Let's hope we've got a really great deal lined up for the summer.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: GLewis on February 01, 2018, 05:30:03 AM
Didn't work for Sandro.

I think Germany will be a different kettle of fish. Don't most German's speak English anyway?

Yes but still a pain if they say team talk in German then someone has to explain everything to him again.

Not a problem if youíre committing 3/4/5 years there but itís not ideal for a short term loan when we want him to get as much playing time as possible.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: blargins on February 01, 2018, 05:32:10 AM
Yes but still a pain if they say team talk in German then someone has to explain everything to him again.

Not a problem if youíre committing 3/4/5 years there but itís not ideal for a short term loan when we want him to get as much playing time as possible.

True. I wonder if they have many foreigners in their team? Great experience for him though. Will make him grow up quick too.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: GLewis on February 01, 2018, 05:35:34 AM
True. I wonder if they have many foreigners in their team? Great experience for him though. Will make him grow up quick too.

Yeah not sure - they had Burke who went it WBA in the summer (I think) so theyíre not averse to left field signings.

And Iíve absolutely nothing but support for people who want to go somewhere else to try something new.

If he plays then great.

But if he doesnít (and the risk is magnified with settlement issues etc.) then from our point of view itís a waste of time if there are safer (playing time) options available.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: howard1334 on February 01, 2018, 05:36:37 AM
So what is happening with Mangala.... Any news? Also, has he played LB at all for City? Apparently did back when he first broke through at Standard Liege.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on February 01, 2018, 05:38:31 AM
Mangala about to be announced any minute apparently. Number 13
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 01, 2018, 05:38:51 AM
Yeah not sure - they had Burke who went it WBA in the summer (I think) so theyíre not averse to left field signings.

And Iíve absolutely nothing but support for people who want to go somewhere else to try something new.

If he plays then great.

But if he doesnít (and the risk is magnified with settlement issues etc.) then from our point of view itís a waste of time if there are safer (playing time) options available.

I think the biggest issue is they are probably too good for where he's at in his development. He should have gone to the best side he could that would see him as a starter every week. Maybe they do but it seems extremely unlikely
Also surely it's a dangerous game to loan our players to better sides. If he does well he's not going to want to come back regardless of what role we see for him next season.
Like sending the wife off to fuck Brad Pitt
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: GLewis on February 01, 2018, 05:42:49 AM
I think the biggest issue is they are probably too good for where he's at in his development. He should have gone to the best side he could that would see him as a starter every week. Maybe they do but it seems extremely unlikely
Also surely it's a dangerous game to loan our players to better sides. If he does well he's not going to want to come back regardless of what role we see for him next season.
Like sending the wife off to fuck Brad Pitt

Yes.

Thatís why PL loan shouts rarely work as if a player isnít deemed good enough for one side, then chances of another putting up with development mistakes are slim.

Re going there full time - we paid a decent whack for him. If heís good there I doubt weíd be selling cheap and thatís not in their usual business plan.

Unless he catches Bayernís eye...
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bigac on February 01, 2018, 05:46:25 AM
Wonder if Klaassen has a locker?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: pjk on February 01, 2018, 05:48:17 AM
Besic has signed on loan for Middlesborough.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Confucius on February 01, 2018, 05:54:26 AM
I think the biggest issue is they are probably too good for where he's at in his development. He should have gone to the best side he could that would see him as a starter every week. Maybe they do but it seems extremely unlikely
Also surely it's a dangerous game to loan our players to better sides. If he does well he's not going to want to come back regardless of what role we see for him next season.
Like sending the wife off to fuck Brad Pitt

Or Brad Pitt realizes it's KNT's wife and sends her back knowing he can do much much better
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: American Evertonian on February 01, 2018, 06:33:36 AM
Not a bad window to be honest:

In:
Tosun
Walcott
Mangala (should be confirmed)

Out:
Lookman (loan - RB Lep)
Mirallas (loan - Olympiakos)
Besic (loan - Middlesbrough)
Sandro (loan - Sevilla)
Barkley (15m - Chelsea)
Lennon (undisclosed - Burnley)

I believe none of our loans have options to buy (except maybe Mirallas). Hopefully all players come back with more experience and have good seasons so we can ask for higher fees if we want rid.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: blargins on February 01, 2018, 06:34:18 AM
Not a bad window to be honest:

In:
Tosun
Walcott
Mangala (should be confirmed)

Out:
Lookman (loan - RB Lep)
Mirallas (loan - Olympiakos)
Besic (loan - Middlesbrough)
Sandro (loan - Sevilla)

I believe none of our loans have options to buy (except maybe Mirallas). Hopefully all players come back with more experience and have good seasons so we can ask for higher fees if we want rid.

And Barkley out too.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: American Evertonian on February 01, 2018, 06:35:41 AM
And Barkley out too.

Thanks! I guess in my mind he moved long ago...
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: blargins on February 01, 2018, 06:37:57 AM
Thanks! I guess in my mind he moved long ago...

A year ago really.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Nick on February 01, 2018, 06:51:29 AM
Confirmed.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: pjk on February 01, 2018, 07:04:01 AM
Yeah! Mangala's loan from City Is confirmed :)



http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/01/31/mangala-joins-everton-on-loan


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42897518

Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Tony Clifton on February 01, 2018, 07:04:54 AM
Wonder if Klaassen has a locker?

In the kitchen now.  He's on gravy duty for the rest of the season.  Sam's calling him Gravy Davy already.

Besic has signed on loan for Middlesborough.
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Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: bluenuck on February 01, 2018, 10:22:25 AM
True. I wonder if they have many foreigners in their team? Great experience for him though. Will make him grow up quick too.

One of their best players is from Sweden. They also have keita, poulsen, Bruma, and Upamecano. That's just the ones I know of. Sure they have a couple more.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Rodenplav64 on February 01, 2018, 01:23:05 PM
Didn't work for Sandro.

I think Germany will be a different kettle of fish. Don't most German's speak English anyway?

I think it will do Lookman good . Lots of different nationalities at Leipzig and lots of young players .
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Lxxx on February 01, 2018, 01:57:12 PM
Yeah, that was my reading of his comments. Sounded to me like there was other options and that the club think it'll be tough for a young lad to be alone in a country where he doesn't speak the language, which seems a perfectly reasonable explanation.

Sounds like he was looking at it from the point of view of an old English bloke who goes to the algarve for his hols than a forward thinking coach who appreciates the Bundesliga is a decent standard and that Leipzig are a young exciting team.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on February 01, 2018, 02:27:20 PM
Fucking state of this

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Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Ramjam on February 01, 2018, 02:30:30 PM
SW, Sam you really should wear a tie

SA, I donít give a fuck, Iím getting the ass at the end of the season anyway
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on February 01, 2018, 02:47:35 PM
Iíll be very surprised if Lookman starts games for RBL. I can see why the move would turn his head as itís the glamorous option but the sensible move would be to a championship team to get more game time. He either has a high opinion of himself or his agent is telling his client he should be playing CL football even at this early stage of his career. Neither bode well.

As for the Klaassen deal...sounds like it was to do with money and his camp not budging on some contractual issues.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Bluedylan on February 01, 2018, 02:47:46 PM
Always weird when you loan a player who's not getting a game, to a team that is much better than you. It's almost like Allardyce's judgement might be questionable.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 01, 2018, 03:00:25 PM
More English kids should try their arm abroad. It will do wonders for the national team.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Lxxx on February 01, 2018, 03:11:49 PM
He just sounds desperate to get as far away from the footballing equivalent of Jurassic Park as possible.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jamokachi on February 01, 2018, 03:28:34 PM
Fucking state of this

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Doesn't exactly scream "modern football" does it?!
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on February 01, 2018, 03:53:01 PM
https://twitter.com/DominicKing_DM/status/958996296785907714
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jamokachi on February 01, 2018, 03:54:51 PM
https://twitter.com/DominicKing_DM/status/958996296785907714

I hope they were told to fuck right off.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Toffee1 on February 01, 2018, 03:59:27 PM
Fucking state of this

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"I've seen a lovely couple of time shares on my trips abroad when I should have been looking for players - you interested"?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Lxxx on February 01, 2018, 04:12:43 PM
Fucking state of this

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I tell you what Sam, I've never been paid as much as this in my life. I can't believe it.

Me neither Steve.

Right, it's 11:00am, I'll get Sheila to nip down the chippy for an early dinner for us....and I've a couple of cans of warm Worthington's in this drawer with our names on to wash it down with.   
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on February 01, 2018, 04:18:38 PM
Fucking state of this

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So that's a large kebab, 4 portions of sui mais, spring rolls, 3 portions of chips, 3 cartons of gravy and prawn crackers for me, what are you having Steve? Make sure you put in on the clubs account.

Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: van der Meyde on February 01, 2018, 04:40:19 PM
Always weird when you loan a player who's not getting a game, to a team that is much better than you. It's almost like Allardyce's judgement might be questionable.
Lookman definitely, given he'd probably be a similar fit to Walcott.

Most of our signings are pretty good players, most of them wouldn't look out of place playing for a decent Europa League team.

It's probably a bigger indictment of our squad planning/team building for me though.

If you can't create a functional 11 out of them though, they're not much use - and it's hard to see where Klaassen and Sandro fit in with the rest of the squad.

(That said, if you've got youngish players with obvious quality, instead of casting them aside I'd have much preferred us to bring in players to complement them...)
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: blargins on February 01, 2018, 05:15:56 PM
Fucking state of this

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You can tell he does no work. Who has a neat and tidy desk and is busy?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 01, 2018, 05:28:09 PM
Who were the 5 players you reckon had their agents ring us abou tleaving on loan. Allardyce says they were in the squad last night.

DCL has been confirmed.

Niasse, Davies, Schnedierlin seem the most obvious. Who would be the 5th? Kenny?
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jamokachi on February 01, 2018, 05:28:22 PM
You can tell he does no work. Who has a neat and tidy desk and is busy?

I do... it's called OCD.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jamokachi on February 01, 2018, 05:28:53 PM
Who were the 5 players you reckon had their agents ring us abou tleaving on loan. Allardyce says they were in the squad last night.

DCL has been confirmed.

Niasse, Davies, Schnedierlin seem the most obvious. Who would be the 5th? Kenny?

Dominic King says DCL was one.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Gash on February 01, 2018, 05:30:41 PM
Who were the 5 players you reckon had their agents ring us abou tleaving on loan. Allardyce says they were in the squad last night.

DCL has been confirmed.

Niasse, Davies, Schnedierlin seem the most obvious. Who would be the 5th? Kenny?

I don't think people are reading this correctly. The way I see it, 5 players agents were approached by other clubs with a view to taking them on loan, the agents then approached the club but people seem to be reading it that the players asked their agents to find them a move.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Lazarou on February 01, 2018, 05:33:31 PM
I do... it's called OCD.

A man after my own heart. Tidy desk, tidy mind.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 01, 2018, 05:39:17 PM
I don't think people are reading this correctly. The way I see it, 5 players agents were approached by other clubs with a view to taking them on loan, the agents then approached the club but people seem to be reading it that the players asked their agents to find them a move.

Probably right - but don't you think the agents would speak to their players before even approaching the club?
Maybe not like. but it's the assumption i'vebeen working on
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Gash on February 01, 2018, 05:46:26 PM
Probably right - but don't you think the agents would speak to their players before even approaching the club?
Maybe not like. but it's the assumption i'vebeen working on

Possibly and it's possible that some of the players were open to a move, especially those who might not be getting many games. But I don't think it's the case of "the players hate Allardyce and want out" which is how some people (not saying you) seem to be trying to portray it as.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 01, 2018, 05:51:24 PM
Possibly and it's possible that some of the players were open to a move, especially those who might not be getting many games. But I don't think it's the case of "the players hate Allardyce and want out" which is how some people (not saying you) seem to be trying to portray it as.

ah, i get yoou yeah. I hadn't attached that 'wanting to get out emotion'.
But 100% believe a lot of gnashing of teeth and rage is going on about it on twitter.

I was just curious as to who in our squad was wanted by other clubs (and what clubs)
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 01, 2018, 06:06:06 PM
ah, i get yoou yeah. I hadn't attached that 'wanting to get out emotion'.
But 100% believe a lot of gnashing of teeth and rage is going on about it on twitter.

I was just curious as to who in our squad was wanted by other clubs (and what clubs)
Here you go pal

https://twitter.com/GregOK/status/959030952768036865
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Lxxx on February 01, 2018, 06:33:19 PM
It's not clear from Allardyce's words on whether the agents approached him after speaking with the players and getting the green light to proceed or not, although you would be surprised it that wasn't the case.
If that is indeed the case, and it can be read that way, then to have your captain and vice captain wanting to leave doesn't send a great signal. I'm guessing West Ham were one of the clubs in for at least one of those players mentioned.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Shogun on February 01, 2018, 06:41:22 PM
The loan bids were all from West Ham weren't they
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 01, 2018, 06:49:45 PM
Phil Kirkbride in the Echo is saying we wanted Lookman to go to Derby.

Potentially a gulf in a difference of opinion between how good our management think Lookman is & how good Lookman/his agent/Leipzig think he is.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: blargins on February 01, 2018, 07:13:29 PM
I do... it's called OCD.

I guess when I worked for someone, I did too :)

Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Cereal Killer on February 01, 2018, 07:22:16 PM
We turned down a loan bid for Williams?!  :o
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: TheRam on February 01, 2018, 07:23:00 PM
Phil Kirkbride in the Echo is saying we wanted Lookman to go to Derby.

Potentially a gulf in a difference of opinion between how good our management think Lookman is & how good Lookman/his agent/Leipzig think he is.

Leipzig wanted to buy him so they probably rate him quite highly.

Think it's a bit much to expect him to drop down a division when a club like RB comes calling. They're built around developing young players and are a very attractive proposition for a player like lookman.

I dont really see what he has to gain going to Derby
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 01, 2018, 07:24:59 PM
Leipzig wanted to buy him so they probably rate him quite highly.

Think it's a bit much to expect him to drop down a division when a club like RB comes calling. They're built around developing young players and are a very attractive proposition for a player like lookman.

I dont really see what he has to gain going to Derby

Agree 100%. There are players that need to 'toughen up' that would do good going to the championship. But i'd only be sending defensively minded players in that direction. Lookman needs to learn how to win games as a team & individually. Much better chance of that at Leipzig.



Also, What a turnaround for Niasse by the way.
From not having a locker to having actual money offered for him and turned down!
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: pjk on February 01, 2018, 07:33:45 PM
Let's face it. If you were a 20-year-old budding prodigy, would you rather go to Derby, (if that was the destination?) or try out a new continental team, and especially if you're not getting much game time? I know what I would do as a 20-year-old. Sam Allardyce is underestimating the lad's intelligence. I seem to remember the kid wants to be a Barrister when he hangs his boots up. Eat some more gravy Sam and watch him return as one of the Motherlands favourite sons.  :)
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Macca77 on February 01, 2018, 07:37:52 PM
Why the fuck we would we reject an a loan offer for Williams, fuck sake Everton!!
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: GLewis on February 01, 2018, 07:45:32 PM
Leipzig wanted to buy him so they probably rate him quite highly.

Think it's a bit much to expect him to drop down a division when a club like RB comes calling. They're built around developing young players and are a very attractive proposition for a player like lookman.

I dont really see what he has to gain going to Derby

Loans are about playing.

Granted if heís not playing at Leipzig heíll be in better company than if he didnít play at Derby (or even here :) ).

But if he doesnít play there and he would have played 20ish high pressure games going for promotion at Derby then itís a poor choice from our point of view.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: van der Meyde on February 01, 2018, 08:00:59 PM
Loans are about playing.

Granted if heís not playing at Leipzig heíll be in better company than if he didnít play at Derby (or even here :) ).

But if he doesnít play there and he would have played 20ish high pressure games going for promotion at Derby then itís a poor choice from our point of view.
Another question might be:

Is it better to play half an hour 15 times against top flight opposition or to play 90 minutes 15 times against worse defences?

Pros and cons to each, obviously.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Lxxx on February 01, 2018, 08:05:39 PM
Another question might be:

Is it better to play half an hour 15 times against top flight opposition or to play 90 minutes 15 times against worse defences?

Pros and cons to each, obviously.

The top of the championship isn't exactly Sunday league defending.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: van der Meyde on February 01, 2018, 08:08:59 PM
The top of the championship isn't exactly Sunday league defending.
I said worse defences, not bad ones.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Ross on February 01, 2018, 08:19:37 PM
Maybe Lookman and his agent consider how successful our loan deals for young players have been in the past and decided theyíd rather trust their own judgement than the clubs.

Not had much success matching young players with the right clubs recently so who could blame them.
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 01, 2018, 08:21:35 PM
Another question might be:

Is it better to play half an hour 15 times against top flight opposition or to play 90 minutes 15 times against worse defences?

Pros and cons to each, obviously.

It's a good move for him if he gets 20-30 minutes every week. There's doubt he'll get anything like that though
Title: Re: Deadline Day
Post by: Lxxx on February 01, 2018, 09:26:19 PM
I just think we massively fucked up this part of his development. After 6 months last season at this level, where it was quickly evident he was out of his depth, he should have been despatched off to someone like Derby for the full season like Dowell has done.