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Title: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Tofifee on February 06, 2018, 06:41:01 PM
Anyone else?
I am going numb from Everton now
Starting to kinda not be arsed anymore

 :titanic: :(
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Post by: Shogun on February 06, 2018, 06:43:45 PM
I've felt that way since Martinez' last season.
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Post by: Hawkandro on February 06, 2018, 06:49:09 PM
Yep, begrudge watching them now, knowing what they will give us in way of 'entertainment'.
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Post by: Robioto on February 06, 2018, 06:54:23 PM
I like to think Iím not arsed, but I am really...
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Post by: gizzblue on February 06, 2018, 06:54:37 PM
I say this all week most weeks ....yet ten minutes to kick off ....I'm a big kid hoping for the best all shit goes out the window ...and im all blue again ...despite the fat twat anti football fuckwit ....but he will be gone before long and I will still be blue .
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Post by: Brownie on February 06, 2018, 06:57:01 PM
Still bothered, it's my club. We've been through worse in my life time.
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Post by: sam of the south on February 06, 2018, 07:08:40 PM
I like to think Iím not arsed, but I am really...


Yeah, it's just a ruse that I use to pretend to myself that I'm not really hurting
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Post by: blargins on February 06, 2018, 07:09:18 PM
The Eagles showed me the other night what Everton have been missing for years.

I remember being nervous before every game and having so much hope. Now I barely cheer when we score. Probably been this way mostly since the cup final.
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Post by: Macca77 on February 06, 2018, 07:16:18 PM
I like to think Iím not arsed, but I am really...

Pretty much the same, I go on about not looking forward to going the match or watching us, but still get that buzz on a matchday, they break my heart more often than not but I always come crawling back for more.
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Post by: Audrey Horne on February 06, 2018, 07:16:59 PM
Dont understand people who dont care. I hate the club from top to bottom, but have pangs of excitement before kick off, thinking maybe this game will be different. SA is sucking the life out of me but ill never stop dreaming.
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Post by: Jimmywhack on February 06, 2018, 07:18:06 PM
Its heard to get excited to watch
Still watch tho
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Post by: Lazarou on February 06, 2018, 07:28:22 PM
Probably care more when it's not going well. The results don't hurt that much as I don't really expect anything but I am embarrassed, annoyed, frustrated by Everton as this was supposed to be our time with some investment and a youth setup second to non which we now appear to be squandering with some style. 
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Post by: Lxxx on February 06, 2018, 07:37:11 PM
We all care enough to be on here talking about it, although it's got to the stage where I'm not that arsed anymore. It'd be nice for us to do well but since we binned Martinez it all seems to have gone to pot and I'm not convinced we're going to turn it round anytime soon.
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Post by: Macca77 on February 06, 2018, 07:40:03 PM
Have faith blues, we'll be great again
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Post by: BlueMaquis on February 06, 2018, 07:41:56 PM
I only really follow EFC for the comedic value anymore. The club is like a big circus from top to bottom, and just when you think it can't get worse it always surprises you.
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Post by: Rodenplav64 on February 06, 2018, 07:51:49 PM
Just when I thought I was out , they pulled me back in . Fucking hate watching at the minute and turned off after 15 mins on Sunday . Toxicity has reached new levels since Moshiri arrived and I just have a bad feeling about it all . I remember my Dad taking 6 grandkids to the Wimbledon game because he said they would not get to watch Everton back in the top flight for years . I feel we are now as close to that as we have been in many a long year . Go and watch Dover most weekends now and if I don't go there I watch the horse racing and check on here . Depressing as fuck despite all the promises .
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Post by: Bluenose 91 on February 06, 2018, 07:59:41 PM
This season has been draining to say the least.

But I've still got faith in the Moshiri ''project''

The new ground looks like it will go ahead and he's clearly willing to put his hand in his pocket and show ambition.

The tools are there to try and create something special here and hopefully he'll get it right sooner rather than later with a new manager/DoF etc
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Post by: sirblue57 on February 06, 2018, 08:14:12 PM
Dont understand people who dont care. I hate the club from top to bottom, but have pangs of excitement before kick off, thinking maybe this game will be different. SA is sucking the life out of me but ill never stop dreaming.
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I doubt you hate the club, those who run it and are totally fucking it up perhaps. Because that's the way I feel.
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Post by: Waltzer on February 06, 2018, 08:19:36 PM
I feel sorry for my son, ive had a lifetime of pain, his pain is only just beginning!!!

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Post by: Hawkandro on February 06, 2018, 08:23:36 PM
This season feels like purgatory. Feels like it has been going for about 18 months so far.
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Post by: gizzblue on February 06, 2018, 08:35:08 PM
This season feels like purgatory. Feels like it has been going for about 18 months so far.
Sam's been here fucking three years hasn't he .....at least surely.
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Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 06, 2018, 09:21:10 PM
I like to think Iím not arsed, but I am really...

I can force myself not to watch because of the bile and anger I feel over Allardyce, but I can't make myself not care, even temporarily.  This is OUR FUCKING CLUB, and we have to get it back.  NSNO, now, always, and forever.
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Post by: Escla on February 06, 2018, 09:24:01 PM
I can force myself not to watch because of the bile and anger I feel over Allardyce, but I can't make myself not care, even temporarily.  This is OUR FUCKING CLUB, and we have to get it back.  NSNO, now, always, and forever.

Mate, when I look at your avatar I have visions of you pointing that gun at Allardyce and saying ďget the fuck out of my clubĒ  lolol
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Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 06, 2018, 09:26:01 PM
Mate, when I look at your avatar I have visions of you pointing that gun at Allardyce and saying ďget the fuck out of my clubĒ  lolol

He's deffo "over the line!!"
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Post by: Alanvideo on February 06, 2018, 09:32:39 PM
Don't get excited till they play Z Cars and then it's like I've been rebooted. COYB
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Post by: brap2 on February 06, 2018, 09:47:13 PM
Moan my arse off about it all the time and even started saying modern football is shite etc. This year.

Couldnít have less faith in the Moshiri project, and Iíve got almost no doubt at all that weíll never see bramley Moore.

But I look forward to every game and I talk about them all week. Iím everton and Iíll be everton forever.
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Post by: blue1948 on February 06, 2018, 10:02:09 PM
Yes I am a bit numb but it would be like losing an arm to give up on the club .I am still proud to be blue but I just can't explain why . We have been lower but not worse than this shit we get now .Never known such mayhem ,can't bear to comment much and have given up the internet gladiator bit as there seems no point .But blue forever .
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Post by: kramer0 on February 06, 2018, 10:11:18 PM
I still care, often more than I'd like to.

It's a bit mean but learning to laugh when we do something really dumb helps take the sting out. Ashley Williams running somebody over in the penalty area for no good reason is funny if you look at it a certain way.
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Post by: TheTone on February 06, 2018, 10:26:06 PM
I care about the club but I've never disliked so many of our players, I think all the big defeats we've had have taken a toll on me now, of course we're always going to lose games but there's a way of losing too, this packing it in and shipping so many goals is tough to take

Last time I really got a buzz from supporting us was when lookman came on and scored on his debut against City, I suppose I keep watching hoping for more of those moments

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Post by: dunkster on February 06, 2018, 10:31:25 PM
I think it's worse now that we have money to spend.  back in the moyes days I thought we did about as much as we could without being able to spend much.
How I miss the baines/pienaar combo and arteta and Cahill.
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Post by: Mayor Farnum on February 06, 2018, 11:02:48 PM
I still care about Everton and I still love match days and keeping an eye on what goes on in here. However, or current plight has removed any joy I may get from other teams good or bad results because we are so poor ourselves. I don't engage in banter with mates who support other clubs because we are defenseless(in more ways that one).
It is that aspect of being a football fan that I am losing interest in.
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Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 06, 2018, 11:13:19 PM
Think we all still care. We all want us to do well.

There is zero entertainment though and in the main it's been that way under 3 managers in a row
It's also kind of without any real hope too. I don't think it's outlandish to say I might never see Everton win another trophy (I'm 38) the way football has gone means they'll be plenty of previously big clubs who don't win anything for 50 or even 100 years as the super rich teams take all the prizes season after season

For me the real issue isn't that we are shit. We've all seen worse Everton teams. It's that we piss away chance after chance. We seem to build teams of cowards and losers who don't have the fight. We rarely look better than the sum of the parts

Of course we care but Everton are a source of endless disappointment and frustration
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Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 06, 2018, 11:18:07 PM
I can force myself not to watch because of the bile and anger I feel over Allardyce, but I can't make myself not care, even temporarily.  This is OUR FUCKING CLUB, and we have to get it back.  NSNO, now, always, and forever.

Why allardyce? I get that people don't like him but this shit has been going on for fucking decades. Martinez was a lunatic. Koeman appeared not to give a fuck. Even under Moyes when we were relatively good we were cowardly in the big games

Our Derby record is a disgrace and has been for an age. This shit is ingrained in Everton it's not an allardyce issue
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Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 06, 2018, 11:20:18 PM
I still care, often more than I'd like to.

It's a bit mean but learning to laugh when we do something really dumb helps take the sting out. Ashley Williams running somebody over in the penalty area for no good reason is funny if you look at it a certain way.

so long as we don't go down (and I feel this is very remote as long as Allardyce is fired as soon as the season ends)
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Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 06, 2018, 11:23:54 PM
Why allardyce? I get that people don't like him but this shit has been going on for fucking decades. Martinez was a lunatic. Koeman appeared not to give a fuck. Even under Moyes when we were relatively good we were cowardly in the big games

Our Derby record is a disgrace and has been for an age. This shit is ingrained in Everton it's not an allardyce issue

The raw hopelessness, marginalization of the one strength we have left (youth), and general hollowing out of our spirit.  All obvious to anyone with a pulse from the outside.  It's one thing to try and fail, it's another to not try and become a laughingstock circus sideshow act.
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Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 06, 2018, 11:28:30 PM
The raw hopelessness, marginalization of the one strength we have left (youth), and general hollowing out of our spirit.  All obvious to anyone with a pulse from the outside.  It's one thing to try and fail, it's another to not try and become a laughingstock circus sideshow act.

We are no worse now than we were under koeman or Martinez. Sacking allardyce won't fix this squad full of losers, boardroom full of lunatics who fuck everything up. 
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Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 06, 2018, 11:31:13 PM
That's not be defending allardyce either. Just think our problems run so much deeper than just him. The derby record sums it up. At times there's not been much between the teams that season and still we can't win 1. It's utter cowardice.

Think the only player we've got who's universally liked and isn't past it is Coleman. The whole lot is rotten.
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Post by: Thornton_19 on February 06, 2018, 11:34:27 PM
Everton to me have always been about more than winning and losing. Don't get me wrong I fucking hate losing and I equally love winning.
However Everton will always hold a place in my heart because of what the mean and have meant to previous generations of my family. My Granddad adored Everton to his dying day and I'd be lying to say I don't plan on doing the same.
Evertons example of the field is what I cherish about the club at the moment because there is not much to like on it. I remain hopeful that it will improve soon.
Blind hope is probably what will kill us all.
That being said fuck Alladyce and Up the fucking Toffees.

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Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 06, 2018, 11:51:47 PM
I agree that our problems run deeper than Allardyce, but he is making it manifestly worse, and sucking the lifeblood out of us like a tick (which is a fair analogy for what he is).

Firing him is no panacea, agreed.  Walsh must go, and it should be a soup-to-nuts makeover in the organization.  Everyone involved needs, at minimum, to make a harsh self-evaluation as to their part in how we got here.

And it will be a long, hard road back.  We need someone that we, and more importantly the squad, can believe in again.
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Post by: Heisenberg on February 06, 2018, 11:55:59 PM
Felt like this since Martinez mid term. Im mid twenties and have seen us win nothing. I always felt under moyes we was on the verge of doing something good or winning something. Its just all disappointing. I find myself getting angry when things go bad yet when we get some (mildly) good moments it means nothing because we know what happens next. I honestly don't think we will win anything in my lifetime. Crazy to think when my dad was my age he'd seen us win all sorts. All I've got to talk about is a 4th finish
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Post by: boothill on February 07, 2018, 12:04:23 AM
i dont just think its everton i cant get enthusiastic about, i have been feeling negative towards football for a while now, i dont have any interest in watching other games at all now, the salary's, behaviour and attitude of players, the way clubs treat their fans. Sky sports witch hunt of the chelsea manager over the last couple of weeks has been a disgrace, they are pushing and pushing to get this man sacked. i would love sky to go bust. And to top it all, the appointment of allardyce as basically killed any passion i had left, off. Do any of you still feel "part" of it ?
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Post by: Optimistic Blue on February 07, 2018, 12:07:00 AM
I agree, though i think the current state of football in general is more to blame than Everton themselves.
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Post by: Bwana on February 07, 2018, 12:09:00 AM
I do still care, probably more than I did when things were temporarily rosy. However, I'm not forcing myself to watch the games anymore this season. This is mainly because seeing us being humiliated time after time makes me an angry and intolerable person, and I do have 9 & 5 year old daughters in the household. I don't want to be an irritated cunt in front of them every weekend.

So I'm still watching the matches live if I don't have anything more important to do, like for example attending tea parties for Barbie dolls... Definitely still constantly checking the highlights/various youtube channels after each match though.
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Post by: brap2 on February 07, 2018, 12:15:13 AM
We are no worse now than we were under koeman or Martinez. Sacking allardyce won't fix this squad full of losers, boardroom full of lunatics who fuck everything up. 

Frankly I agree. Need to make some real core changes to the way we make decision, not just continue to hire and fire shite managers.
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Post by: Tofifee on February 07, 2018, 12:51:32 AM
I agree that the main problem is the game itself.
Sh*t players getting ridiculous money. Everton spending 27m on a striker none of us had heard of and then dropping him.
Our summer which was full of enthusiasm and joy, We loved taking the adulations from the nation about getting our business done early, being an example of how it should be done et cet cetc
Then, in typical Everton fashion, Sandro is useless, Klassen is useless, Keane is Useless. Thats 60m right there.
Carragher makes a joke about the players we sign and the media and football fans in general mop it up and we become a laugh....
Rooney isnt in the door a wet week and he starts acting the cnut around town drawing more ridicule.
We EVENTUALLY sign Sigi and discover we dont know what to do with him...
We remain a laughing stock

We sack our manager, we spend a month arsing around and eventually settle on SAM FUCKING ALLARDYCE

We go to Anfield, play shite but rescue a draw and it feels like a win. Then we realise it was only a draw and we are celbrating like we won the league.
We go to Anfield in the cup, play well, but then ruin it all and all the good feeling from a month previous when our 30m keeper suffers a brain fart at the worst possible time in the worst possible place.

oh, and our manager, is Sam FUCKING Allardyce

We support a club who people take the piss out of.
We support a club who's sworn enemy see's us as something to ridicule and beat for fun at their place, and a lot of them dont even see us as rivals.
HOW ON EARTH CAN WE NOT WIN IN ANFIELD IN A GENERATION!!
We celebrate draws with them like wins, despite them playing us off the pitch.

oh, and our manager, is Sam FUCKING Allardyce

We take good players and within a month their touch deserts them and they start to play like league 2 players

We bang on about our history. Villa and Forest have HUGE history, look where it got them.
Its irrelevant. A lad in his 20's now see's Everton in the same light as he see's West Ham, Southampton,Stoke and West Brom.
Leicester are more respectable

oh, and our manager, is Sam FUCKING Allardyce

We have all had that conversation with a new person, you know the ol " your a scouser, your lot playing Madrid this week" "No, I am a blue" "oh...right".....

This club is embarrassing, its being run like a cheap brothel and players see us as a stepping stone or a retirement home.

And it fucking kills me

oh, and our manager, is Sam FUCKING Allardyce
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Post by: Cassius on February 07, 2018, 12:59:12 AM
I still care. I wouldn't be on here if I didn't.

I've just lost the enthusiasm. With football as much as Everton to be honest. Man City has spent almost three times as much on its defence this season as Cuba spends on its defence in a whole year.

I think the fact that we have money now, something we've been waiting for for so long, and we're just pissing it up the wall kinda makes it worse.
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Post by: kramer0 on February 07, 2018, 01:08:54 AM
I think the fact that we have money now, something we've been waiting for for so long, and we're just pissing it up the wall kinda makes it worse.

Adding to this point... we've spent all of that money on what is a very boring team.

It's no surprise that enthusiasm has dwindled for so many.
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Post by: Bigstickytoffee on February 07, 2018, 01:15:14 AM

Yeah, it's just a ruse that I use to pretend to myself that I'm not really hurting

This.
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Post by: Cassius on February 07, 2018, 01:18:45 AM
Adding to this point... we've spent all of that money on what is a very boring team.

It's no surprise that enthusiasm has dwindled for so many.

Agreed.

I'm pissed that we've got a better commercial side and have a plan to improve our turnover in that area yet absolutely zero plan on the playing side.

Moshiri playing to his strengths here but not delegating or making strong, informed decisions on his footballing structure. That's actually the sign of a poor leader, which worries me.

There are blueprints that we could adopt but we're just aimlessly smashing out a short termism approach with no thought about our identity, and where we want to be in three or five years.

This has resulted in an unbalanced squad built on ego and a dull, uncoordinated playing style.

My worry is that it will take three seasons to fix this mess.
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Post by: Goaljira on February 07, 2018, 01:22:45 AM
The Eagles showed me the other night what Everton have been missing for years.

I remember being nervous before every game and having so much hope. Now I barely cheer when we score. Probably been this way mostly since the cup final.

I cheered and fist pumped one of the patriots touchdowns the other night, and realised ive not done the same for Everton in ages.
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Post by: formerKHL on February 07, 2018, 01:31:26 AM
The person in me gets how some people can say theyíre starting not to care anymore..
the evertonian in me doesnít get it at all.....how can you not care....

Like most on here Iíve been with them for many many years and hopefully many more ...
Through the good days of the 60ís and early 70ís
Through the bad days of mid 70ís early eighties..
Then the good mid eighties period...then the wilderness year to recent days....

Moyes coined the phrase ďthe peopleís clubĒ and thatís what everton has always been to me and most blues and none blues alike...

Unfortunately to me itís become ďthe players clubĒ......those that are only here for the money....

I donít believe Moshiri money has changed us because we were always a ď millionaires club ď but in the right way....we spent well and always paid out for good players...ball, Cottee lineaker etc....and they always made me feel like a millionaire too......

Money has changed the sport, the game, the people within the game the culture....

It will never change my love for this club...... I WONT LET IT...

Iíd still go support them even if we were in the 4th division.....
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Post by: blue slug on February 07, 2018, 01:35:27 AM
I care but Iím so demoralised by the incompetency of the club from top to bottom
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Post by: kramer0 on February 07, 2018, 01:43:12 AM
My worry is that it will take three seasons to fix this mess.

I think we can "fix" it in one summer with three well-chosen signings: (1) an attacking left back, (2) a forward-passing midfielder, and (3) a creative wide player (preferably for the left). Then we can slowly work on revitalizing other areas from there.

With that said, I don't trust Allardyce/Walsh to target the right types of players this upcoming summer, especially the midfielder and creator.
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Post by: eyesalwaysblue on February 07, 2018, 01:46:42 AM
I care but Iím so demoralised by the incompetency of the club from top to bottom
Maybe that's the one positive from this season, we are starting to see just how shit the club is being run overall..
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Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 07, 2018, 01:49:40 AM
I think we can "fix" it in one summer with three well-chosen signings: (1) an attacking left back, (2) a forward-passing midfielder, and (3) a creative wide player (preferably for the left). Then we can slowly work on revitalizing other areas from there.

With that said, I don't trust Allardyce/Walsh to target the right types of players this upcoming summer, especially the midfielder and creator.

Those are pretty hard to find, get right, and integrate (from where we are), especially in one window.

Agree that's what we need. Along with belief, the necessary predicate to anything.
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Post by: Mayor Farnum on February 07, 2018, 02:12:41 AM
What I find most depressing is that everything about us is so predictable. Saturday's result, awful as it was, was hardly a surprise.

If we draw a top four team away in the cup I feel we are out before a ball is kicked.

You go to the game time and time again yet after about ten minutes you know it's going to be a familiar struggle.

We complain about our poor exposure on Sky/BT but when are we ever involved in exciting games for us; let alone a neutral? I'd imagine we get very little interest in our matches from the general public.
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Post by: toshyboy on February 07, 2018, 02:42:42 AM
I donít think itís nobody cares anymore itís just a case of same old same old and not as much enthusiasm. The highs arenít as high and lows arenít as low for me any more. Doubt it will change until either the stadium is built or we get to a cup final. Can probably liken it to being married to the same person for a number of years. Still care about them and look out for them, but ur not all over them and at it like rabbits like when u weíre younger
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Post by: bacon sarnie on February 07, 2018, 03:53:26 AM
The Eagles showed me the other night what Everton have been missing for years.

I remember being nervous before every game and having so much hope. Now I barely cheer when we score. Probably been this way mostly since the cup final.

From worst to first. Hope for us yet!

 :thumbsup:
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Post by: bacon sarnie on February 07, 2018, 03:58:17 AM
I cheered and fisted one of the patriots the other night, and realised ive not done that in an Everton shirt in ages.

Hope it was Brady - the miserable shite.
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Post by: blargins on February 07, 2018, 03:58:26 AM
From worst to first. Hope for us yet!

 :thumbsup:

Exactly. Need to take Nike Foles' comments on board. He nearly quit two years ago, and now look at him.

If I players could have that drive and passion, we can do the same. Big difference between the two clubs. One has spirit and fight, the other doesn't.
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Post by: bacon sarnie on February 07, 2018, 04:57:38 AM
Exactly. Need to take Nike Foles' comments on board. He nearly quit two years ago, and now look at him.

If I players could have that drive and passion, we can do the same. Big difference between the two clubs. One has spirit and fight, the other doesn't.

Seamus can lead Everton to glory with help from a capable manager. Foles didn't break any bones but they both have big hearts & balls of steel, man.
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Post by: Tony Clifton on February 07, 2018, 05:52:27 AM
I cheered and fist pumped one of the patriots touchdowns the other night, and realised ive not done the same for Everton in ages.

Same here except it was for an Eagles touchdown ;)  As my fist was in the air it dawned on me.  Sad times these.
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: blargins on February 07, 2018, 05:58:47 AM
Same here except it was for an Eagles touchdown ;)  As my fist was in the air it dawned on me.  Sad times these.
I never thought I would be more excited for any other sporting event other than Everton.

Lots to build for though. Others have come back from the depths thereís no reason we canít either.
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Cuttyblue on February 07, 2018, 07:53:43 AM
Anyone else?
I am going numb from Everton now
Starting to kinda not be arsed anymore

 :titanic: :(

No, I'm all in for the next match.  Let's get a home win vs. CPFC.

I'm not going to get on my high horse and tut tut you though.  What concerns me is that I am no longer upset at poor performances/losing matches. That's a terrible place to be.
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Post by: wilbur on February 07, 2018, 11:01:21 AM
My enthusiasm is still as strong as ever. The whole week revolves around the Everton game and I donít even care what happened last week.

I am still filled with pride that so many people feel the same way because we have sold out virtually every home game for the last few years and always take up the full away allocation.

The club has been a major part of my life for more than 50 years and Iím annoyed as fuck that weíve got no game next week.

As bad as weíve been this season - and I threatened to give up my season ticket if Allardyce was appointed - weíre still founder members and competing in the top flight of the greatest football league in the universe.

Privileged we are, chosen if you like, and donít ever forget it.
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: dunkster on February 07, 2018, 01:56:03 PM
There's a difference between not caring anymore and being entertained.
When you pay money to go see something it's to be entertained.
Our standard, leaky defence and no shots on target for 90 minutes  approach wouldn't get me running to Cineworld to see it.
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Bluedylan on February 07, 2018, 02:38:04 PM
I think we all still care, obviously, but the club has been so chaotic it's been hard to really identify with the direction we've taken, the players or the various managers in recent years.

We went from 11 years of stability, and incremental improvement (bar the odd aberration), to a world of scattergun signings, managers completely at odds with the previous approach and Jim White releasing significant club information. It's little surprise our fans are feeling somewhat alienated and detached, because it's difficult to know what we have of substance that we can attach ourselves to. That's why the return of Seamus Coleman was greeted with such relief and familiarity. A reminder of a calmer time, when things made a little more sense.

I think we'll be fine, and proclamations about our doom and decline are premature to say the least. I live in Sheffield, and can see the real nature of a club that's been in significant decline for a long period - Sheffield Wednesday. We're not in that position, or even close to it. We've made a number of poor decisions consecutively as a club, and we're suffering the consequences of that. And that's all it comes down to, decision making (at every level). The good thing is that you can change that, at any point, by making better decisions.

Alright, at the moment, there's nothing to suggest that we'll suddenly have a complete turnaround and be a superbly run club. But I have faith that we'll improve and learn from our mistakes (maybe not as quickly as we'd like) over time.

We desperately need something/someone that we can all get behind, and genuinely believe in. We haven't really had that since Moyes' last couple of seasons and Martinez's first season. So the next managerial appointment is clearly massively important, on that front.
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Macca77 on February 07, 2018, 02:41:53 PM
For every one Evertonian who doesn't care there's 10 Evertonians who do care

Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Simon Paul on February 07, 2018, 04:09:52 PM
For every one Evertonian who doesn't care there's 10 Evertonians who do care
Hope attendances back that theory up
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Macca77 on February 07, 2018, 04:20:54 PM
Hope attendances back that theory up

Wonder if there will be a season ticket waiting list for next season?
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Simon Paul on February 07, 2018, 04:23:31 PM
Wonder if there will be a season ticket waiting list for next season?
You'd have to hope so given the club said there were ten thousand on the one for this year
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Alanvideo on February 07, 2018, 04:24:10 PM
Hope attendances back that theory up
............there's nothing to suggest a drop in attendance ,quite the reverse ,Saturday is sold out for a start.
When I renewed my ST the box office said there were thousands on the waiting list if people drop out. We know next season will be better than this don't we . Don't we ?
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: TheRam on February 07, 2018, 05:00:44 PM
............there's nothing to suggest a drop in attendance ,quite the reverse ,Saturday is sold out for a start.
When I renewed my ST the box office said there were thousands on the waiting list if people drop out. We know next season will be better than this don't we . Don't we ?

I've noticed a few empty seats at the ground though which suggests a lot of ST holders can't be arsed.
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Macca77 on February 07, 2018, 05:52:02 PM
............there's nothing to suggest a drop in attendance ,quite the reverse ,Saturday is sold out for a start.
When I renewed my ST the box office said there were thousands on the waiting list if people drop out. We know next season will be better than this don't we . Don't we ?

Yes it will, when we have this fella in charge

(https://static2.90tv.ir/be4756c1f58171af129524f5db832a8d_240_150_cropCenter.jpg)
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Escla on February 07, 2018, 06:31:02 PM
I've noticed a few empty seats at the ground though which suggests a lot of ST holders can't be arsed.

The lad that sits next to me hasnít been for the last two games.
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 07, 2018, 06:32:15 PM
I never thought I would be more excited for any other sporting event other than Everton.

Lots to build for though. Others have come back from the depths thereís no reason we canít either.

Of course, going back to "larger problem with footy in general" - the NFL is the closest you get in meritocracy in professional sport, with the major European footy leagues more like an extreme version of MLB (in American analogies).  Sacrificing overall product quality to make marketing simpler (i.e., the "superteams") instead.  I absolutely hate that, especially how top to bottom competitiveness is always what made the EPL so special to me.  Certainly gotten way worse since Leicester's miracle run.
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Simon Paul on February 07, 2018, 07:58:24 PM
The lad that sits next to me hasnít been for the last two games.

yep, lad that sits by me has basically given his season ticket up for the rest of this season
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Alanvideo on February 07, 2018, 07:58:49 PM
I've noticed a few empty seats at the ground though which suggests a lot of ST holders can't be arsed.
................yes that's true. On the other hand the Upper Visitors has been sold to home fans quite a lot this season and always sells out. Must be a decent view !
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: brap2 on February 07, 2018, 08:29:13 PM
yep, lad that sits by me has basically given his season ticket up for the rest of this season

One of the lads that goes with us has said he canít be arsed until Sam is out
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: TheRam on February 07, 2018, 08:48:28 PM
Yeah, lads by me have jibbed it off as well.

Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Everton Mint on February 07, 2018, 10:57:18 PM
The apathy is now a serious reality after 22 years without a trophy.

Moyes did a great job in restoring pride and on a budget, but since its been more big promises and even bigger disappointments.

I still care but I have a bad feeling that fans cant go on like this much longer. The players too are looking the same way... sick of failure.

We need Moshiri to invest big time in the team and manager... world class players, not £25m ones no-one has heard of.

If not, sooner rather than later, we will crash out of the Pl.
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Goaljira on February 08, 2018, 01:40:57 AM
yep, lad that sits by me has basically given his season ticket up for the rest of this season

I'm only going Saturday and whoever we've got March 10th because my brother can't be arsed and i claimed his ticket before he stubhubbed them.
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on February 08, 2018, 03:14:47 AM
Live and breath Everton, will always bleed blue. My frustrations are more around how such a large scale business can get very fews decisions, if any, right over the decades. So many disasters, one after another. You want to just see one big decision turn positive and the club showing signs of progression.

2 years under Moshiri, I think the test is around the corner (6-12 months) which way we go will be defining. One way or another, we will know.

Over recent years, watching lower league sides really epitomises what football is about, passion, desire, players putting in full blooded tackles and commitment and effort shown. Something which hasn't been seen at out club and perhaps the PL in general for a while now.


Title: Depressing being an Everton fan right now
Post by: Tofifee on May 03, 2018, 04:15:24 PM
Literally never been lower as a blue

ever

 :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Depressing being an Everton fan right now
Post by: themilkycoffees on May 03, 2018, 04:17:32 PM
Have to agree to be honest. Would feel a lot better if the club would make a statement thanking Sam for his services but he won't be required beyond the last game of the season.
Title: Re: Depressing being an Everton fan right now
Post by: Macca77 on May 03, 2018, 04:27:29 PM
I'm not depressed your depressed

 :hmph:
Title: Re: Depressing being an Everton fan right now
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 03, 2018, 04:27:58 PM
Itís been depressing being an Everton fan for about 20 years now. The only time itís not us when we have false dawns or opportunities we then go on to waste
Title: Re: Depressing being an Everton fan right now
Post by: Macca77 on May 03, 2018, 04:31:56 PM
Get a grip of yourselves, things have been far far worse than this, we were nearly relegated twice remember
Title: Re: Depressing being an Everton fan right now
Post by: themilkycoffees on May 03, 2018, 04:32:06 PM
Itís been depressing being an Everton fan for about 20 years now. The only time itís not us when we have false dawns or opportunities we then go on to waste

I'm 24 and we've been shite all of my life.
Title: Re: Depressing being an Everton fan right now
Post by: Bluedylan on May 03, 2018, 05:41:38 PM
Overreaction much?

Yeah it's not amazing, and them lot doing so well makes it much worse, but still....bit of perspective. We're gonna be 8th.

Keeping Allardyce though might push me over the edge. The only thing that's kept me going is the promise of a fresh start in the summer.
Title: Re: Depressing being an Everton fan right now
Post by: themilkycoffees on May 03, 2018, 05:51:01 PM
Overreaction much?

Yeah it's not amazing, and them lot doing so well makes it much worse, but still....bit of perspective. We're gonna be 8th.

Keeping Allardyce though might push me over the edge. The only thing that's kept me going is the promise of a fresh start in the summer.

8TH IS DEPRESSING.
Title: Re: Depressing being an Everton fan right now
Post by: Macca77 on May 03, 2018, 05:51:26 PM
Overreaction much?

Yeah it's not amazing, and them lot doing so well makes it much worse, but still....bit of perspective. We're gonna be 8th.

Keeping Allardyce though might push me over the edge. The only thing that's kept me going is the promise of a fresh start in the summer.

That's exactly what it is, seeing them do well while we're utter shite stings a bit, but its not a new thing, I've been a blue for 35+ years, seen them with everything out there, while we've been a lot worse than we are now, its never nice for us, but I'm sort of used to it now. I cling on the the hope that one day we will have our time again.
Title: Re: Depressing being an Everton fan right now
Post by: Tofifee on May 03, 2018, 06:00:23 PM
I prefer the Liverpool manager to the Everton manager

This sickens me

But I do.

Liverpool have some of the best players in the world, they are in   another CL final

We have Bisto as our manager and we are going NOWHERE

I am miserable
Title: Re: Depressing being an Everton fan right now
Post by: American Evertonian on May 03, 2018, 06:01:21 PM
Literally never been lower as a blue

ever

 :-[ :-[

Just wait. I'm sure you'll sink deeper if we back big Sam for another year.
Title: Re: Depressing being an Everton fan right now
Post by: TheTone on May 03, 2018, 06:07:29 PM
Not feeling the love for football in general for a while now
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Gash on May 03, 2018, 06:10:04 PM
Literally never been lower as a blue

ever

 :-[ :-[

Might as well merge this with the other miserable thread you started a couple of months ago.
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 03, 2018, 06:27:11 PM
Might as well merge this with the other miserable thread you started a couple of months ago.
I see what you did there

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Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Alanvideo on May 03, 2018, 06:34:34 PM
Might as well merge this with the other miserable thread you started a couple of months ago.
.....................we've gone form being the bitters to ' les miserables '  ???
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Shogun on May 03, 2018, 06:35:03 PM
Overreaction much?

Yeah it's not amazing, and them lot doing so well makes it much worse, but still....bit of perspective. We're gonna be 8th.

Keeping Allardyce though might push me over the edge. The only thing that's kept me going is the promise of a fresh start in the summer.

Actually really excited about next season if we get a Silva/Fonseca/Howe type who play forward thinking football with the likes of Onyekuru and Lookman especially. Think we'll see a lot of players kick on if it happens.

If Allardyce is still here then all hope is lost.
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Brownie on May 03, 2018, 06:40:02 PM
I'm 24 and we've been shite all of my life.

Oh my poor sweet child. I feel your pain.
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 03, 2018, 06:49:00 PM
Just checked to see what we were like when I was 24

We finished 17th, Moyes second season

Grim times them
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: TheRam on May 03, 2018, 06:57:45 PM
I'm 27, never seen us win a cup and the best we've mustered up for my troubles is a 4th place finish with Marcus Bent leading the line.

They're in their 5th European final in that period, as well as adding a few FA cups and league cups.

It's just very grim supporting us at times, and this is one of the hardest periods of being an Everton fan.

Only so long a club like us can stagnate for before one of two things happen.

1. We finally break that glass ceiling and begin a new successful era for the club.

2. We collapse and go the way of Aston Villa.

Only a matter of time before one of the above happens and I'm more worried than hopeful.
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Bally on May 03, 2018, 07:07:39 PM
I have now been going to Goodison for 40 years and whilst this isn't the lowest I've felt with them, it's not far off.
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 03, 2018, 07:10:11 PM
I think its defo the first time in my life where if we are playing and im not there or watching im not checking my phone or teletext (ask yer dad) every 5 mins to see how we are doing
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Tofifee on May 03, 2018, 07:13:54 PM
The reason this is worse then the 2 relegation escapes is
(a) Bad as they were, they were exciting, and a club legend was manager second time around.
(b) We had a shite squad and expectations were suitably low, this season we were full of hope of top 4 and ahead of them
(c) back then we regularly beat them, and they were shite too

Now.....the football is AWFUL, We have a squad that cost a fortune to malfunction and seem incapable of ever beating them again, and......they are on a different level to us completely and its embarrassin
Oh, and.........we have Bisto in charge
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: dunkster on May 03, 2018, 07:16:13 PM
Amazing how quickly this could change with SA and Walsh out. Fonseca and brands in. Some decent signings and some lovely new pics of the stadium. Could quickly forget this whole season
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 03, 2018, 07:18:08 PM
A big thing for me as well as knowing that we can be utter shite yet still come 8th
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: dunkster on May 03, 2018, 07:21:31 PM
Doesn't help the allardyce stats of 19th for every element that makes a game entertaining.
And yet there are still those that are happy with it.
We are 8th because the teams in the premiership outside the top 6 are shocking
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: bogie on May 03, 2018, 07:24:09 PM
Doesn't help the allardyce stats of 19th for every element that makes a game entertaining.
And yet there are still those that are happy with it.
We are 8th because the teams in the premiership outside the top 6 are shocking

every element lol are you forgetting the points one or will that one not suit you and your crying into you pint crap
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: brap2 on May 03, 2018, 07:40:54 PM
A big thing for me as well as knowing that we can be utter shite yet still come 8th

My thinking has definitely changed since glewis sort of made me face up to this.

Makes me think we can afford a bigger risk next year...
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: djws1788 on May 03, 2018, 08:00:04 PM
every element lol are you forgetting the points one or will that one not suit you and your crying into you pint crap

You can win without being entertaining. Sam has written the book on that.
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: TheTone on May 03, 2018, 08:14:02 PM
I'm 27, never seen us win a cup and the best we've mustered up for my troubles is a 4th place finish with Marcus Bent leading the line.

They're in their 5th European final in that period, as well as adding a few FA cups and league cups.

It's just very grim supporting us at times, and this is one of the hardest periods of being an Everton fan.

Only so long a club like us can stagnate for before one of two things happen.

1. We finally break that glass ceiling and begin a new successful era for the club.

2. We collapse and go the way of Aston Villa.

Only a matter of time before one of the above happens and I'm more worried than hopeful.

had you down for at least early 40s like
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Polledreng on May 03, 2018, 09:17:48 PM
@Brownie20 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=169)  had the same feeling.... it lasted 48 hours  ;)
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Brownie on May 03, 2018, 09:28:11 PM
@Brownie20 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=169)  had the same feeling.... it lasted 48 hours  ;)

72 I thought. Or maybe just felt like it
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: SANA_DR0 on May 03, 2018, 09:33:10 PM
Doesn't help the allardyce stats of 19th for every element that makes a game entertaining.
And yet there are still those that are happy with it.
We are 8th because the teams in the premiership outside the top 6 are shocking

totally this.

school of science et all.
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: BlueForYou on May 04, 2018, 01:16:24 AM
Always care - we're not fair weather supporters

Looking forward to hearing Bruce Springsteen on the Goodison playlist: "Better Days" & "Glory Days"!
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: brap2 on May 04, 2018, 01:49:20 AM
had you down for at least early 40s like

I still think of him as a young 18 year old scamp running around edge hill uni with a denim hoody on, finger blasting anything that moves.
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 04, 2018, 02:05:05 AM
I donít think this is the worst. We are a reasonably decent side (outside of the actually good top 5 and arsenal) we still have money so at least thereís hope if we start getting some football decisions right

The almost getting relegated twice was worse. We were shit and we had very little hope of it changing. Also pissing away kings dock was worse. That was very final. We are still in a decent position we just have to start getting something right
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: TheRam on May 04, 2018, 02:08:48 AM
I still think of him as a young 18 year old scamp running around edge hill uni with a denim hoody on, finger blasting anything that moves.

Ahhh those were the days my friend.
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: GLewis on May 04, 2018, 02:18:22 AM
I donít think this is the worst. We are a reasonably decent side (outside of the actually good top 5 and arsenal) we still have money so at least thereís hope if we start getting some football decisions right

The almost getting relegated twice was worse. We were shit and we had very little hope of it changing. Also pissing away kings dock was worse. That was very final. We are still in a decent position we just have to start getting something right

Yeah now is dispiriting because weíve not made the most of having a bit more money etc.

But itís infinitely better than being in the bottom 6 every season.

Boring is better than potential disaster.
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: bogie on May 04, 2018, 02:25:31 AM
Anyone else?
I am going numb from Everton now
Starting to kinda not be arsed anymore

 :titanic: :(

but you logon to post about you not being arsed anymore
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: dunkster on May 04, 2018, 02:25:53 AM
No team with money should be relegated with the amount of toss that's in this league.
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 04, 2018, 02:43:59 AM
Yeah now is dispiriting because weíve not made the most of having a bit more money etc.

But itís infinitely better than being in the bottom 6 every season.

Boring is better than potential disaster.

Still hope. Money to spend. New stadium. Potentially new manager. New DOF (for them that want them)
We arenít in a bad position. I think weíve just pissed away so many chances in recent history that starting this opportunity so poorly makes people worry we are at it again
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Bluedylan on May 04, 2018, 03:13:05 AM
The doom laden atmosphere and attitude (while understandable) is part of the reason we ended up appointing Big Sam. Some people really panicked at the start of the season when we were around the the relegation area, and thought we were going or gone.

A lot of others just said 'nah we've got good players, and we've just played 5 of last season's Top 6. Calm the fuck down, we'll be more than fine whoever the manager is'. But that seemed to fall on deaf ears.

If the club, and some of the fans, had been a bit calmer and took a step back, we'd never have gone near Allardyce.
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Gash on May 04, 2018, 04:28:01 AM
I donít think this is the worst. We are a reasonably decent side

Eh? You've spent the whole season telling us the whole squad is "a bit shit".
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: van der Meyde on May 04, 2018, 05:14:16 AM
The doom laden atmosphere and attitude (while understandable) is part of the reason we ended up appointing Big Sam. Some people really panicked at the start of the season when we were around the the relegation area, and thought we were going or gone.

A lot of others just said 'nah we've got good players, and we've just played 5 of last season's Top 6. Calm the fuck down, we'll be more than fine whoever the manager is'. But that seemed to fall on deaf ears.

If the club, and some of the fans, had been a bit calmer and took a step back, we'd never have gone near Allardyce.
Would go as far as saying most of the fans, personally.

I think that Southampton one had even the most grounded fans worrying after 6 odd weeks conceding 2+/game.
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Ross on May 04, 2018, 06:43:18 AM
No team with money should be relegated with the amount of toss that's in this league.

Stoke, Southampton and West Brom all have principle owners with bigger assets than ours.

You could add recently relegated teams like Newcastle and Sunderland to that as well.

Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Trowel on May 04, 2018, 01:56:36 PM
Owner assets are not club money.

You wouldn't expect Mike Ashley to sell a Sports Direct workhouse to buy a centre forward.
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Tofifee on May 16, 2018, 01:43:20 AM
I agree that the main problem is the game itself.
Sh*t players getting ridiculous money. Everton spending 27m on a striker none of us had heard of and then dropping him.
Our summer which was full of enthusiasm and joy, We loved taking the adulations from the nation about getting our business done early, being an example of how it should be done et cet cetc
Then, in typical Everton fashion, Sandro is useless, Klassen is useless, Keane is Useless. Thats 60m right there.
Carragher makes a joke about the players we sign and the media and football fans in general mop it up and we become a laugh....
Rooney isnt in the door a wet week and he starts acting the cnut around town drawing more ridicule.
We EVENTUALLY sign Sigi and discover we dont know what to do with him...
We remain a laughing stock

We sack our manager, we spend a month arsing around and eventually settle on SAM FUCKING ALLARDYCE

We go to Anfield, play shite but rescue a draw and it feels like a win. Then we realise it was only a draw and we are celbrating like we won the league.
We go to Anfield in the cup, play well, but then ruin it all and all the good feeling from a month previous when our 30m keeper suffers a brain fart at the worst possible time in the worst possible place.

oh, and our manager, is Sam FUCKING Allardyce

We support a club who people take the piss out of.
We support a club who's sworn enemy see's us as something to ridicule and beat for fun at their place, and a lot of them dont even see us as rivals.
HOW ON EARTH CAN WE NOT WIN IN ANFIELD IN A GENERATION!!
We celebrate draws with them like wins, despite them playing us off the pitch.

oh, and our manager, is Sam FUCKING Allardyce

We take good players and within a month their touch deserts them and they start to play like league 2 players

We bang on about our history. Villa and Forest have HUGE history, look where it got them.
Its irrelevant. A lad in his 20's now see's Everton in the same light as he see's West Ham, Southampton,Stoke and West Brom.
Leicester are more respectable

oh, and our manager, is Sam FUCKING Allardyce

We have all had that conversation with a new person, you know the ol " your a scouser, your lot playing Madrid this week" "No, I am a blue" "oh...right".....

This club is embarrassing, its being run like a cheap brothel and players see us as a stepping stone or a retirement home.

And it fucking kills me

oh, and our manager, is Sam FUCKING Allardyce

All the above still stands.......but at least our manager isn't Sam fu*king Allardyce anymore  :)

Small mercies blues!
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 16, 2018, 02:02:35 AM
Eh? You've spent the whole season telling us the whole squad is "a bit shit".

They are in terms of being top 6. We don't have anything at that level. We aren't bad like Walter Smith's Everton were bad

I think our biggest issue is everyone is quite good but not good enough. We actually don't have anyone to begin building a top 6 side around.
Title: Re: Starting not to care anymore...........
Post by: Everton Mint on May 16, 2018, 06:20:28 PM
22 years without a trophy and Liverpool heading back on top... I cant take much more.